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PSYCH 131: Homosexuality, Gay and Lesbian Identities, and Homosexual Behaviour · Clinical Deep Dives

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  SPEAKER_00: So to kick things off today, I want you to imagine a 45 year old man.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's been married to a woman for two decades,
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  SPEAKER_00: has three kids and is this highly visible,
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  SPEAKER_00: really active member of a fairly conservative religious community.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: A pillar of the community type of figure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: But twice a month, he travels to a neighboring city.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is a massive contradiction to look at from the outside.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if a clinician were to look at him and try to just sort of place him into
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  SPEAKER_00: a single neat little box of human sexuality, they would fail completely.
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  SPEAKER_01: They would absolutely fail.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they'd be trying to collapse this deeply complex,
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  SPEAKER_01: multidimensional human experience into just a single point.
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  SPEAKER_01: To actually understand that patient or frankly,
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  SPEAKER_01: any patient, we have to utilize a very specific mental model.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's where the compass comes in, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: In clinical psychiatry,
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  SPEAKER_01: we often conceptualize human sexuality as this,
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  SPEAKER_01: like, large, intricate brass compass.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this compass doesn't just point north.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has three entirely separate needles, and they move completely independently of one another.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is such a great visual.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the first needle represents desire,
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  SPEAKER_01: the second represents behavior, and the third represents identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as that opening scenario with the married man illustrates,
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  SPEAKER_00: those three needles, they really do not always point in the same direction.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could have a person who experiences really intense same-sex attraction.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without ever actually acting on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: someone might engage in same sex behavior without ever identifying as gay
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  SPEAKER_01: or bisexual.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or someone might identify really strongly with a sexual minority community,
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  SPEAKER_00: but present publicly like at work or to their extended family
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  SPEAKER_00: as strictly heterosexual.
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  SPEAKER_01: Spot on.
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  SPEAKER_01: The foundational lesson here right straight away is
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  SPEAKER_01: that sexual orientation is emphatically not the same thing as sexual behavior.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it is definitely not the same thing as sexual identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we try to force those three needles into alignment because it's easier
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  SPEAKER_00: for us to digest,
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  SPEAKER_00: we just totally lose the clinical reality of the patient sitting right in front
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  SPEAKER_00: of us.
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  SPEAKER_01: We do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We lose the patient entirely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that distinction is really the structural spine of our investigation today.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are taking a custom-tailored deep dive
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  SPEAKER_00: into this incredibly fascinating intersection of the brain,
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  SPEAKER_00: the mind, and human experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: And crucially,
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  SPEAKER_01: how that intersection can be fundamentally misunderstood
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  SPEAKER_01: and even quite severely damaged when you subject it to the crushing weight
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  SPEAKER_01: of societal pressure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And our guide for this deep dive is chapter 21.2 of Kaplan
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  SPEAKER_00: and Sadok's comprehensive textbook of psychiatry.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're looking specifically at homosexuality,
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  SPEAKER_00: gay and lesbian identities, and homosexual behavior.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And framing psychiatry as the study of how the brain, mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: and experience interact and how that process goes wrong is just so crucial here
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  SPEAKER_01: because for a very long time, the psychiatric establishment got this entirely wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: They really, really did.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But before we can even get into all those historical missteps,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think we really must define what these needles actually represent,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: separating them from other aspects of human development
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  SPEAKER_01: that just get erroneously tangled up in this whole discussion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's definitely start with the term sexual orientation itself,
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  SPEAKER_00: because in the medical mainstream and certainly throughout the Kaplan
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  SPEAKER_00: and Sadoc text, the term they use is orientation rather than preference.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and that distinction is not just semantics.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, because the phrase sexual preference was common historically.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the text makes it really clear that using the word preference sort
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  SPEAKER_00: of erroneously implies a volitional, voluntary choice in your erotic responsiveness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is biologically and psychologically just inaccurate.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, while the decision to actually engage in a sexual behavior,
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  SPEAKER_01: so the second needle on our compass is volitional,
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  SPEAKER_01: The vast preponderance of clinical and scientific evidence shows that the direction
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  SPEAKER_01: of your non-volitional erotic desire is not a choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just who you're drawn to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Orientation is defined by the object of one's sexual desire.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we use clinical terms, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like androfilic for an innate attraction to men,
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  SPEAKER_01: ginophilic for an attraction to women, bisexual for both or asexual for neither.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we also need to draw a really hard line here between sexual orientation
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  SPEAKER_00: and gender identity,
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  SPEAKER_00: because historically earlier models just disastrously conflated the two things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, completely.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was this pervasive,
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  SPEAKER_01: deeply flawed assumption that, say,
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  SPEAKER_01: a man attracted to men must somehow be internally confused about his own gender or
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  SPEAKER_01: that he possessed like a female spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is a massive categorical error.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is entirely distinct from gender dysphoria,
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  SPEAKER_01: where you see a profound incongruence between a person's experienced gender
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  SPEAKER_01: and their assigned sex.
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  SPEAKER_00: The text also clearly separates sexual orientation from transvestic disorder,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I think is important to touch on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because in the popular imagination, cross-dressing is often heavily linked with homosexuality.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the clinical reality is actually quite the opposite.
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  SPEAKER_01: The DSM-5 notes that transvestic disorder,
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  SPEAKER_01: which involves Recurrent,
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  SPEAKER_01: intense sexual arousal from cross-dressing can apply regardless
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  SPEAKER_01: of sexual orientation.
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  SPEAKER_00: But historically, the epidemiology tells a different story, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It does.
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  SPEAKER_01: Historically and epidemiologically,
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  SPEAKER_01: the vast majority of individuals
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  SPEAKER_01: with fetishistic transvestic disorder are actually heterosexual men who cross-dress
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  SPEAKER_01: in private.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we just have to rigorously separate the object of desire from gender identity and
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  SPEAKER_01: from paraphilic interests.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: OK, so with our definition set,
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  SPEAKER_00: we need to look at how the psychiatric field has actually attempted
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  SPEAKER_00: to measure all these concepts.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the most famous attempt,
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  SPEAKER_00: obviously,
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  SPEAKER_00: is the heterosexual homosexual rating scale,
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  SPEAKER_00: which most people just know is the Kinsey scale.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Introduced by Alfred Kinsey back in 1948.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's the seven point scale where zero is exclusively heterosexual,
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  SPEAKER_00: six is exclusively homosexual,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then three sits right in the middle representing equal amounts of both.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have to understand Kinsey's work was a massive cultural
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  SPEAKER_01: and scientific watershed moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: By conceptualizing sexual orientation on a continuum,
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  SPEAKER_01: he completely shattered those rigid binary models that all
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  SPEAKER_01: the earlier theorists were relying upon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because before that, it was just two sealed boxes.
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  SPEAKER_00: You were either one or the other.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: He famously wrote that the world is not divided into sheep and goats and
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  SPEAKER_01: that nature rarely deals with discrete categories.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the Kinsey scale allowed researchers to finally quantify sexual desire
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  SPEAKER_01: and sexual behavior separately.
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  SPEAKER_01: It proved that people's desires and actions are not always exclusively one or the other.
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  SPEAKER_00: But looking at it from a modern clinical perspective,
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  SPEAKER_00: a one to seven scale does seem, I don't know, severely one dimensional.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: It absolutely is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because it treats human attraction as a zero sum game.
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  SPEAKER_00: It sort of implies that any increase in attraction to one sex automatically dictates
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  SPEAKER_00: a corresponding decrease in attraction to the other.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which isn't how bisexuality or human attraction actually works.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And furthermore,
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  SPEAKER_00: it completely fails to capture the third needle on our compass, which is identity.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the contemporary critiques that are outlined in the chapter align directly with
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  SPEAKER_01: that exact observation.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Kinsey scale is fundamentally just a research instrument based on self-appraisal.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has almost no real clinical utility today beyond illustrating
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  SPEAKER_01: that desire isn't strictly binary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because, as the chapter warns us, a continuum of attraction does not fully describe identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Identity isn't just a biological metric.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't just put identity on a frequency chart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Identity is categorically shaped by culture, by language, family, community.
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  SPEAKER_01: And really, the personal meaning an individual attaches to their own feelings.
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  SPEAKER_00: You just cannot quantify the lived experience of identifying as a gay man or
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  SPEAKER_00: a lesbian woman on a numerical scale from zero to six.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, you can't.
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  SPEAKER_01: Identity is a psychological adaptation.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a social construct,
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  SPEAKER_01: and it's a deeply personal integration of reality into one's own sense of self.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if identity is shaped by culture,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we have to examine how medical culture historically shaped
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  SPEAKER_00: and frankly misshaped the psychiatric understanding of same sex attraction.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we have to step into the historical tribunal here because in the 19th
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  SPEAKER_01: and mid 20th centuries, we see this massive shift.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right,
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  SPEAKER_00: where homosexuality moves from being viewed under a purely religious framework as
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  SPEAKER_00: a moral failing or a sin to suddenly being medicalized and categorized as
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  SPEAKER_00: a pathology.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this era represents a really profound transformation in societal control.
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  SPEAKER_01: In the mid 19th century,
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  SPEAKER_01: European sexologists began studying homosexuality from what they considered to be
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  SPEAKER_01: a scientific perspective.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like Carl Ulrichs in the 1860s, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ulrichs was a German lawyer and he actually advocated
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  SPEAKER_01: against laws criminalizing male homosexual acts.
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  SPEAKER_01: He proposed a biological theory suggesting some men were born with
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  SPEAKER_01: a woman's spirit trapped in their bodies.
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  SPEAKER_00: He called them earnings, if I remember correctly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, earnings.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which again,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's that conflation of gender identity and sexual orientation playing out right
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  SPEAKER_00: in the early theory.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was so pervasive back then.
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  SPEAKER_01: However,
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  SPEAKER_01: Ulrichs,
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  SPEAKER_01: and later the German physician Magnus Hirschfeldt,
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  SPEAKER_01: They actually viewed this as a completely normal variant of human biology.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hirschfeld called it an intermediate sexual type and asserted it was entirely natural.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then you get someone like Richard von Kraft-Emming.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: The highly influential psychiatrist who published Psychopathia Sexualis in 1886.
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  SPEAKER_01: Kraft-Emming observed the exact same biological and behavioral traits that Ulrichs
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  SPEAKER_01: and Hirschfeld did, but he labeled them as unnatural, degenerate and pathological.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is wild.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have two sets of scientists looking at the exact same human variation
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  SPEAKER_00: and based entirely on their own cultural and moral lenses.
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  SPEAKER_00: One defines it as a natural variant and the other defines it as a literal disease.
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  SPEAKER_01: It really highlights how subjective early psychiatry could be.
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  SPEAKER_01: But biology was just one framework.
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  SPEAKER_01: The psychoanalytic views,
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  SPEAKER_01: which begin with Sigmund Freud, took this in a slightly different direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Freud's views are frequently misinterpreted on this, aren't they?
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  SPEAKER_01: Very frequently.
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  SPEAKER_01: People assume he pathologized it directly,
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  SPEAKER_01: but Freud did not view homosexuality as a sign of illness in
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  SPEAKER_01: the traditional psychoanalytic sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because in psychoanalysis, an illness is a symptom arising from unconscious psychic conflict.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Freud saw homosexuality as the unconflicted expression of an innate instinct.
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  SPEAKER_01: He posited this theory of constitutional bisexuality,
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  SPEAKER_01: the idea that every single human is born with both masculine
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  SPEAKER_01: and feminine component instincts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but if he didn't categorize it as a disease,
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  SPEAKER_00: how did his framework actually explain adult homosexuality?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, he viewed adult, non-sublimated homosexuality as an arrest in psychic development.
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  SPEAKER_01: In Freud's model of psychosexual stages,
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  SPEAKER_01: the libido has to navigate various phases
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  SPEAKER_01: to reach what he deemed mature reproductive heterosexuality.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ah, so he viewed it as a form of psychological immaturity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, a developmental stop along the road.
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  SPEAKER_01: So while he did not label it a disease,
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  SPEAKER_01: his theory still cast it as a failure to reach the ideal developmental destination.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the models that followed Freud took a much sharper, explicitly pathologizing turn, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: They did.
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  SPEAKER_01: That shift was largely driven by Sander Rado in the 1940s.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rado discarded Freud's concept of constitutional bisexuality completely.
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  SPEAKER_01: He just threw it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he argued that heterosexuality was the only non-pathologic outcome, didn't he?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rado framed homosexuality purely as an illness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Specifically,
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  SPEAKER_01: he defined it as a phobic avoidance of the opposite sex,
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  SPEAKER_01: which he claimed was caused by severe parental prohibitions
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  SPEAKER_01: against childhood sexuality.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Rado's model essentially just strips away any concept of innate attraction to
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  SPEAKER_00: the same sex and replaces it with a terror of the opposite sex born
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  SPEAKER_00: from childhood trauma.
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  SPEAKER_01: Which is a huge leap.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this really set the stage for psychoanalysts to claim they could cure the condition.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which leads us to Irving Bieber's highly influential
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  SPEAKER_00: yet methodologically catastrophic work in the 1960s.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bieber proposed the theory of the pathogenic family type.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the detached father domineering mother trope.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bieber and his associates claimed that a detached rejecting father coupled with
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  SPEAKER_01: a close binding domineering mother caused homosexuality in men.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this permeated the culture so deeply.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's still in the cultural ether today, honestly.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is, but the methodology of Bieber's study is just a textbook example of clinical bias.
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  SPEAKER_01: He studied 106 adult homosexual men,
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  SPEAKER_01: but crucially,
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  SPEAKER_01: every single one of them was already a psychiatric patient
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  SPEAKER_01: in psychoanalytic treatment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wait,
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  SPEAKER_00: so he claimed a 27% cure rate based on a cohort of people already seeking treatment
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  SPEAKER_00: for psychological distress?
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  SPEAKER_01: He did, and he completely obfuscated the fact that roughly 70%
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  SPEAKER_01: of his subjects actually dropped out during the treatment.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is staggering.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the study lacked robust peer review.
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  SPEAKER_01: It provided absolutely no long term follow up data.
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  SPEAKER_01: And most importantly, it lacked a nonpatient control group.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he had no baseline for normal homosexual men functioning out in the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: None at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this theory of familial etiology has never,
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  SPEAKER_01: ever found support in subsequent larger scale epidemiological research
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  SPEAKER_01: of nonpatient gay men.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is the ultimate confirmation bias.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if a researcher only studies individuals who are distressed enough
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  SPEAKER_00: to seek psychiatric help within a deeply homophobic society and their
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  SPEAKER_00: a priori assumption is that the sexual orientation is the disease,
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  SPEAKER_00: they will inevitably find pathology.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were looking for sickness, so they found sickness.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because psychoanalysis was producing these heavily biased,
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  SPEAKER_00: unreplicable results, the scientific community began looking elsewhere, didn't they?
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  SPEAKER_00: They sort of shifted from subjective psychoanalytic theories to the hard wiring of the brain.
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  SPEAKER_01: They did.
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  SPEAKER_01: They started asking,
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  SPEAKER_01: what does modern biological research actually say about the mechanisms
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  SPEAKER_01: of sexual orientation?
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  SPEAKER_00: And the text outlines three specific biological models for this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: The first is the model of direct biologic effects.
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  SPEAKER_01: This model suggests that biological factors like specific genes
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  SPEAKER_01: or prenatal androgen exposure directly organize the brain circuits
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  SPEAKER_01: that mediate sexual orientation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in this framework,
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  SPEAKER_00: the brain just possesses an intrinsic predisposition toward
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  SPEAKER_00: a certain orientation right from birth.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's hardwired.
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  SPEAKER_01: The second model is the model of indirect biologic effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how does that differ?
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  SPEAKER_01: Here, biological factors do not dictate sexual orientation directly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Instead, genes or hormones influence childhood temperament.
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  SPEAKER_01: So a frequently studied trait is the propensity for rough and tumble play.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so biology might predispose a child to be, say, highly averse to aggressive physical play.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that temperamental trait fundamentally alters how that child interacts
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  SPEAKER_01: with their peers,
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  SPEAKER_01: how they are socialized by their environment,
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  SPEAKER_01: and how they perceive their own gender conformity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I see.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those formative,
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  SPEAKER_00: subjectively experienced environmental interactions subsequently shape
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  SPEAKER_00: the development of their sexual orientation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Biology sets the temperament,
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  SPEAKER_01: the temperament alters the environmental experience,
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: and the experience shapes the orientation.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: That makes a lot of sense.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: But the third model,
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: the model of permissive biologic effects,
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think offers an incredibly precise way to understand developmental permanence.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: The textbook uses this brilliant mechanism of songbird learning to illustrate it.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: It is such a remarkable analogy for clinical reasoning.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: So think of a songbird.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: A songbird is biologically programmed with the neural architecture required to learn
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: a song,
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: and biology dictates a very specific sensitive developmental window during which
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: that learning must occur.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: But biology doesn't provide the actual song itself.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: The bird has to acquire the song from its environment.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: This is the permissive effect.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_01: But once that sensitive window closes and the song is acquired, the neural pathways solidify.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love that analogy because that mechanism completely shatters the false binary
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: that dominates so many sociopolitical debates today.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: It really does.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because the assumption is so often that if a trait is genetic, it is immutable.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: But if a trait is acquired through environmental experience,
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: it must be a voluntary choice that you can just change.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Which is just not how neurodevelopment works.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: The songbird demonstrates that phenomena acquired
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: through environmental experience can become entirely neurologically immutable.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it really undercuts the core argument utilized by conversion therapists,
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: because the clinical reality is that regardless of
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: whether orientation is inscribed directly by genes or permissively
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: through early environmental experience,
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: it is highly, highly impervious to willful change.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is essentially locked in.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Let's delve into the actual genetics, though,
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: because the textbook highlights a monumental 2019 Genome-Wide Association study,
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: or GWSS.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, a massive piece of research.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: This study analyzed blood and saliva samples from nearly half
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: a million individuals via the UK Biobank and 23Ming.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: In the search for the origins of human sexuality, did they find a gay gene?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Emphatically, no.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: There is absolutely no single gay gene.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: So what did the GOAs actually show?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what a GWAS does is scan the entire genome of a massive population
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: to find small variations,
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: single nucleotide polymorphisms that occur more frequently in people with
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: a specific trait.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: And the study identified five autosomal loci,
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: which are specific regions on non-sex chromosomes that were significantly associated
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: with a history of same-sex behavior.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: But those five loci don't tell the whole story.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Not at all,
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_01: because in aggregate,
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: all of these genetic variations combined accounted for only 8 to 25 percent of
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: the variance in same-sex behavior.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now, in behavioral genetics,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: 8 to 25 percent is actually a highly significant statistical variance, right?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is, yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: But it proves that the trait is wildly polygenic,
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: meaning it's influenced by thousands of genes interacting rather than deterministic.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: And the researchers noted a really critical limitation about what they were actually measuring.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: They were measuring same-sex behavior, not sexual orientation or identity.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we know there are genetically influenced personality traits that increase
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: the odds of certain behavior.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like openness to experience.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: The personality trait of openness to experience is genetically mediated.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it is entirely plausible that genetic markers for openness
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: to experience might increase the statistical probability of
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: a person exploring same sex behavior in their lifetime.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Completely independent of whether their underlying sexual orientation is homosexual
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: or heterosexual.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Precisely.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: So with biology demonstrating complex polygenic normal variation,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: And with psychoanalysis failing to prove pathology in non-patients,
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: how did psychiatry finally course correct?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: The shift towards normalization really began
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: when researchers finally stopped looking exclusively at psychiatric patients.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And a major watershed moment for this was the work of psychologist Evelyn Hooker in 1957.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Evelyn Hooker was brilliant.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: She recruited 30 homosexual men and 30 heterosexual men.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: And crucially, none were psychiatric patients.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: They were simply individuals functioning normally in the community.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: She gave them a battery of projective psychological tests, right?
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like the Rorschach inkblot test and the thematic apperception test, the TAT.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: And projective tests are designed to reveal hidden emotions and internal conflicts
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: by having the subject respond to ambiguous stimuli.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: So Hooker took the results of these extensive psychological profiles,
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: stripped them of any identifying information regarding the men's sexual orientation,
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: and just handed them to a panel of expert psychiatric judges.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: She essentially blinded the study.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: She did.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: And she asked the experts to rate the psychological adjustment of the subjects
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: and identify which men were homosexual based purely on their psychological profiles.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the results were a scientific earthquake.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: They were.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: The expert judges could not distinguish the projective tests of the homosexual men
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: from those of the heterosexual men.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: They found zero difference in overall psychological adjustment.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: That systematically dismantles the whole a priori assumption
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: that homosexuality was inherently linked to severe psychopathology.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: It provided empirical proof that the severe sickness psychiatrists were observing
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: in their clinics was actually just the psychological distress of being
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: a heavily stigmatized minority.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't an inherent pathology of the orientation itself.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: But empirical data rarely changes entrenched institutional policy on its own.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: it took a massive social movement to force the American Psychiatric Association
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: to actually confront the science.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: It really did.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: By the late 1960s,
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: intersecting with the civil rights and feminist movements,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: the gay rights movement coalesced around the Stonewall riots.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: And activists looked at the psychiatric establishment and realized
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: the DSM II classification of homosexuality So the activists began protesting
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: the APA's annual meetings, disrupting sessions to demand they
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: be heard.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: And in response, the APA eventually permitted educational panels.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: The most cinematic and impactful of these occurred in 1972 on
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: a panel titled Psychiatry, Friend or Foe to Homosexuals, a Dialogue.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And this is where we get the famous Dr. H. Anonymous.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Dr. H.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Anonymous was actually Dr.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: John Fryer,
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: a gay psychiatrist who was forced to disguise his identity
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: to protect his medical license and his career.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: He appeared in like an oversized tuxedo, a fright wig and a rubber mask, right?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: He did.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: And he spoke through a voice distorting microphone.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: He explicitly laid out the intense discrimination and fear gay psychiatrists faced
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: within their own profession.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: He compared their need to hide to a black person with light skin passing
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: as white out of fear of retribution.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: It was this stark,
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: undeniable demonstration of the institutional stigma
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: the profession itself was perpetuating.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Truly a watershed moment.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Following these panels,
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: the APA's nomenclature committee led by Dr.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Robert Spitzer undertake a rigorous review of the clinical reasoning.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: And Spitzer posed a really profound question that changed the trajectory of the DSM forever.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: He asked, what actually defines a mental disorder?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: And his formulation established a critical psychiatric principle.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Spitzer argued that for any condition to be classified as a mental disorder,
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: it must meet one of two core criteria.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: It must cause the individual's subjective distress,
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: or it must cause a generalized objective impairment in social effectiveness
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: or functioning that results directly from the condition itself.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's a perfect analogy.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: And because there were millions of gay and lesbian individuals who
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: So in December 1973, the APA's Board of Trustees voted to remove homosexuality from the DSM.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: They did, but the transition was not entirely seamless.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, because they had to appease the psychoanalytic wing of the APA,
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: which was furious about the declassification.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: So they introduced this weird compromise diagnosis in 1974,
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: sexual orientation disturbance or SOD.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: SOD was applied to individuals who were,
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: quote, bothered by in conflict with or wish to change their homosexual orientation.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: But from a clinical reasoning standpoint, that is fundamentally illogical.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Completely illogical.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: if a heterosexual person was trapped in a miserable marriage and felt deeply unhappy
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: with their heterosexual desires,
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: no psychiatrist was diagnosing them with a mental disorder based
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: on their dissatisfaction with heterosexuality.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, of course not.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: The problem of diagnostic over inclusiveness was glaring.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: There were no reported clinical cases
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: of unhappy heterosexual individuals seeking psychiatric treatment
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: to become homosexual.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: So the APA was making the patient's subjective,
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: culturally induced distress about their orientation the determining factor
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: in labeling the orientation itself as an illness.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Which explicitly violated Spitzer's new criteria.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: By the publication of DSM-30,
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: SOD was replaced by Egodistonic Homosexuality,
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: or EDH, but the conceptual flaw remained.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: But the psychiatric community eventually recognized this untenable logic.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: They did.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: By 1987, EDH was entirely removed from the revised DSM IIR.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: And the World Health Organization followed suit,
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: removing homosexuality from the ICD-10 in 1990
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: and ultimately removing all remaining codes that pathologize homosexuality from
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: the ICD-11 in 2019.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: So if same-sex attraction is a normal variant of human sexuality,
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: the clinical task shifts entirely.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: The objective is no longer to cure the attraction,
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: but to understand how an individual navigates a world that operates on
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: a default assumption of heterosexuality.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Which brings us nicely to part four of our deep dive, clinical manifestations.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: We have to explore the mechanics of the coming out process and
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: the different psychological subjectivities a patient might inhabit.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because coming out is not a singular event, is it?
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, it is a lifelong, multidimensional process, and it comprises two distinct components.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: The first component is coming out to oneself,
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: which is the subjective experience of interim ignition.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: It is the complex psychological moment when a person actually allows themselves
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: to acknowledge that these homoerotic desires,
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: which they may have been heavily conditioned to view as unacceptable or sinful,
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: are actually an authentic part of their core self.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: And that internal integration can take years.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: It can take decades for some.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then the second component is coming out to others, which is disclosure.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: And because heteronormativity dictates that everyone is assumed straight
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: until declared otherwise, disclosure is a perpetual process.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: It never ends.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: An individual has to calculate the safety and utility
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: of coming out every single time they start a new job,
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: meet a new neighbor, or consult a new doctor.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: To understand how patients navigate this,
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: the text relies on Vivian Cass' model of identity development.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: It maps out several distinct subjectivities.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it's important to note that in all of these subjectivities,
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: the underlying reality,
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: the homosexual orientation, the desire needle on our compass remains constant.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: What alters is how the person psychologically interacts with that desire.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: So let's examine the first subjectivity, which is being closeted.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: In colloquial terms, closeted usually just describes someone hiding their actions.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: But psychologically,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: the text describes it as a state where
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: the individual cannot even acknowledge their desires to themselves.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: The feeling of same sex attraction is so ego dystonic,
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: so unacceptable to their own self concept that it is completely unavailable
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: to their direct awareness.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: The text uses the clinical term dissociated here, doesn't it?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: The feelings are not entirely unconscious in the traditional Freudian sense,
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: but they are fragmented and blocked from conscious integration.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: The ego builds a massive defensive wall so the person can rationalize the feelings away.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the next subjectivity is homosexually self-aware.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: In this state, the dissociation lifts.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: The individual can acknowledge, at least internally, that they experience homoerotic feelings.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: But their behavior might still remain highly restricted.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: They might act on the feelings in extreme secrecy or they might adopt
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: a celibate lifestyle just to avoid adopting an identity that conflicts
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: with their religious or familial structures.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: And if they do integrate those feelings publicly,
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: they move into the gay, lesbian or bisexual identity subjectivity.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Which involves self-acceptance, broad disclosure and very often integration into a community.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: But clinicians also have to be acutely aware of a fourth space,
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: the non-gay or ex-gay identity,
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: which is sometimes referred to sociologically as being on the down low.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: These are individuals who are fully aware of their same-sex attractions
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: and they may frequently act on them,
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: but they actively maintain a heterosexual public identity.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: So they might enter into heterosexual marriages hoping it will suppress the desires
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: or provide a shield from social scrutiny.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yet anonymously engage in high-risk same-sex behavior.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then there are those who refer to themselves as ex-gay individuals
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: who acknowledge their attractions but actively seek to disidentify with them.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Often pursuing religious or professional intervention to try and rid themselves of
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: the feelings entirely.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: And the textbook addresses these conversion efforts directly,
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: noting that while individuals can modify their public behavior
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: or change their subjective identity labels,
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: empirical research shows that sexual orientation itself,
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: that physiological erotic responsiveness, is highly impervious to willful change.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Which is exactly why major psychiatric
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: and psychological associations universally oppose conversion efforts.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: They are ineffective at altering orientation,
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: and they generate profound psychological harm
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: by massively increasing internalized stigma.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: So the clinical role for a psychiatrist working with a conflicted patient isn't
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: to truly change their orientation.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, the role is to provide therapeutic holding.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: The clinician must respect the patient's distress,
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: explore the irrational aspects of their internalized anti-homosexual attitudes,
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: and help them integrate conflicting feelings without coercing an identity outcome.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Which transitions us to what is arguably the most clinically urgent section of
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: the chapter, minority stress and affirmative practice.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because if homosexuality is not a mental illness, we have to explain the epidemiological data.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Why do we see statistically higher rates of anxiety,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: depression,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: suicidality and substance use disorders in the LGBT community compared
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: to their heterosexual counterparts?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the explanation lies in the minority stress model.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: The excess mental health burden is not derived from the homosexuality itself.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: It is a direct physiological and psychological consequence of the chronic stress
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: that accompanies holding a stigmatized social status in a heterosexist society.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: Psychologist John Pachankis identified three specific mechanisms of minority stress
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: that clinicians really must target.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: The first is identity concealment.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: And the cognitive load of identity concealment is massive.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: It is this exhausting perpetual calculus of monitoring who you are out to,
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: altering your pronouns when describing your weekend,
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: or modulating your voice and mannerisms just to avoid detection.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: That constant cognitive editing must raise baseline anxiety so much.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: It just keeps the nervous system on edge.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: And the second target is rejection hypervigilance.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: If an individual has a history of experiencing discrimination,
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: bullying or violence, their nervous system adapts.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: So the amygdala and sympathetic nervous system just becomes stuck in an overactive state.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Constantly scanning the environment for threats.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: They anticipate rejection before it even happens,
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: which fundamentally impairs their ability to form secure, trusting relationships.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: And the third target is internalized stigma.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Where the societal homophobia actually permeates the individual psyche,
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: creating profound cognitive dissonance.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: The person begins to believe the negative rhetoric society projects onto them,
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: leading to severe self-devaluation.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Furthermore, these stresses are never isolated.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: We really have to apply an intersectional lens here
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: because multiple marginalized identities compound sexual minority stress
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: exponentially.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Take a hypothetical case study like a black gay man.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: He is navigating dual communities simultaneously.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: He might face systemic racism and marginalization within
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: the predominantly white gay community while simultaneously facing homophobia
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: within segments of his racial or religious community.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: And the cumulative physiological toll
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: of this multiple minority status can easily overwhelm
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: an individual's coping mechanisms.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: So the clinical goal in affirmative therapy is never to search for the cause of
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: the patient's homosexuality.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, a therapist searching for a cause invalidates the patient's reality entirely.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Instead, the focus is on the meaning of the patient's experiences.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: The therapist helps the patient process the trauma of minority stress,
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  SPEAKER_01: dismantle internalized stigma, and reconcile those conflicting internal identities.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is really all about integration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Helping the patient construct a cohesive sense of self,
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  SPEAKER_00: regardless of which way the needles on their compass are pointing.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's beautifully put.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we have thoroughly mapped the hall of sexual identity and social meaning today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's distill the core clinical reasoning from this chapter before we move on to the questions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sexual orientation, sexual behavior and sexual identity are distinct axes of human experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are the three needles on our compass and they move independently.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Second, the evolution of psychiatric nomenclature demonstrates
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  SPEAKER_01: a profound truth societal disapproval does not equate to medical pathology.
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  SPEAKER_01: A disorder requires clinically meaningful disturbance resulting directly from
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  SPEAKER_01: the condition itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's also correct.
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  SPEAKER_01: And third.
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  SPEAKER_01: The mental health disparities observed in sexual minorities stem from
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  SPEAKER_01: the chronic physiological and psychological friction of minority stress,
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  SPEAKER_01: requiring clinicians to provide affirmative intersectional care.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those principles are the absolute bedrock
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  SPEAKER_00: of modern psychiatric practice regarding human sexuality.
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  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, before we move to our review questions,
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to leave you, the listener, with a final provocative thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we've explored how sexual identity The specific labels we use,
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  SPEAKER_01: the political communities we form,
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  SPEAKER_01: the pride parades we organize is largely a psychological and cultural adaptation
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  SPEAKER_01: to living in a society that stigmatizes same sex attraction.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what happens to gay identity in a hypothetical future
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  SPEAKER_01: where society becomes entirely perfectly neutral about sexual orientation?
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  SPEAKER_00: That is an interesting thought experiment.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: If being gay becomes as socially unremarkable as being left handed and
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  SPEAKER_01: the chronic friction of minority stress completely evaporates,
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  SPEAKER_01: does the concept of the identity itself fundamentally alter?
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  SPEAKER_01: Does the LGB community dissolve into the broader human tapestry or does it evolve
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  SPEAKER_01: into a completely new sociological construct?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if the external societal pressure that forged the identity is removed,
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  SPEAKER_00: the psychological contours of that identity will inevitably shift.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a fascinating question of social psychology.
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  SPEAKER_01: Something to ponder as society evolves, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: But now it is time to reinforce our clinical reasoning.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have six single best answer questions drawn directly from
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  SPEAKER_01: the mechanisms we've explored today.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll introduce the topic,
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  SPEAKER_01: our expert will read the question and the options,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then I'll give you a second to think before we reveal the answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sounds good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's begin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Question one focuses on concepts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: According to the chapter,
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  SPEAKER_00: which of the following terms most accurately aligns with the clinical definition
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  SPEAKER_00: of sexual orientation?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it A,
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  SPEAKER_00: the gender to which a person transitions, B,
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  SPEAKER_00: the conscious decision to engage in same-sex behavior, C,
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  SPEAKER_00: the subjective label a person uses in public,
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  SPEAKER_00: or D, the direction of a person as non-volitional erotic response tendencies?
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  SPEAKER_01: Take a moment to lock in your answer for that one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the correct answer is D.
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  SPEAKER_00: Orientation refers to the direction
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  SPEAKER_00: of one's non-volitional erotic response tendencies or innate desire.
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  SPEAKER_00: Preference implies a voluntary choice, and identity refers to subjective labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Option A describes gender identity, and option B describes sexual behavior.
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  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Question 2 tests history and clinical reasoning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Robert Spitzer's formulation that led to the declassification of homosexuality
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  SPEAKER_00: in 1973 relied on a new definition of a mental disorder.
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  SPEAKER_00: What were the two core criteria required?
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  SPEAKER_00: A, genetic abnormality and social deviance.
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  SPEAKER_00: B, subjective distress or objective impairment in social functioning.
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  SPEAKER_00: C, family dysfunction and developmental arrest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or D, ego dystonia and neuroanatomical divergence.
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  SPEAKER_01: Think back to our chat about the 70s for this one.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the answer?
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  SPEAKER_00: The correct answer is B.
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  SPEAKER_00: Spitzer established that a condition must cause either subjective distress
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  SPEAKER_00: or generalized objective impairment,
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  SPEAKER_00: resulting directly from the condition itself to be classified as a mental disorder.
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  SPEAKER_01: Spot on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Question three looks at biological mechanisms.
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  SPEAKER_00: A researcher argues that biology does not directly dictate
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  SPEAKER_00: a person's sexual orientation,
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  SPEAKER_00: but rather shapes childhood temperament,
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  SPEAKER_00: such as an aversion to rough-and-tumble play.
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  SPEAKER_00: This temperament subsequently affects how the child interacts with peers
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  SPEAKER_00: and their environment to shape orientation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which biological model does this represent?
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  SPEAKER_00: A, direct biologic effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: B, permissive biologic effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: C, indirect biologic effects.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or D, the intersex hypothesis.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember the different pathways we discussed.
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  SPEAKER_00: The correct answer is C.
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  SPEAKER_00: The indirect model posits that biological factors influence temperament,
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  SPEAKER_00: which then shapes the formative,
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  SPEAKER_00: subjective experiences that ultimately influence orientations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Moving on, question four covers clinical manifestations.
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  SPEAKER_00: A male patient privately acknowledges his same-sex erotic attractions,
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  SPEAKER_00: but actively maintains a public heterosexual marriage,
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  SPEAKER_00: avoids LGB communities,
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  SPEAKER_00: and engages in high-risk same-sex sexual behavior anonymously.
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  SPEAKER_00: According to the Identity Subjectivities Model, how is this patient's identity best classified?
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  SPEAKER_00: A, closeted.
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  SPEAKER_00: B, homosexually self-aware.
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  SPEAKER_00: C, non-gay or down-low.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or D, ego-dystonic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Lock in your answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: The correct answer is C.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because he is fully aware of and acts on his attractions but actively maintains
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  SPEAKER_00: a public heterosexual identity and rejects a gay identity,
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  SPEAKER_00: he fits the non-gay or down-low subjectivity.
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  SPEAKER_00: A closeted person,
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  SPEAKER_00: by contrast, often dissociates the feelings entirely and cannot acknowledge them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Question five dives into genetics.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is the most accurate summary of the 2019 Genome-Wide Association study findings
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  SPEAKER_00: on same-sex behavior involving nearly half a million individuals?
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  SPEAKER_00: A.
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  SPEAKER_00: A single gene in the SQ28 region determines orientation.
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  SPEAKER_00: B. Genetics play zero role in same-sex behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: C. Same-sex behavior is influenced by many genes,
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  SPEAKER_00: which, in aggregate, account for 8-25% of the variants.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or D. Genetic markers determine sexual identity, but not sexual behavior.
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  SPEAKER_01: Take a second to think about the GWES results.
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  SPEAKER_00: The correct answer is C.
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  SPEAKER_00: The trait is highly polygenic,
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  SPEAKER_00: meaning multiple genetic loci contribute to a minority percentage 8 to 25 percent of
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  SPEAKER_00: the overall variance in same-sex behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no single gene.
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  SPEAKER_01: And our final question, question six, focuses on clinical integration.
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  SPEAKER_00: According to John Pashankas,
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  SPEAKER_00: evidence-based affirmative practice for sexual minorities should specifically target
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  SPEAKER_00: which of the following mechanisms of minority stress?
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  SPEAKER_00: A, family psychodynamics and childhood trauma.
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  SPEAKER_00: B, identity concealment, rejection hypervigilance, and internalized stigma.
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  SPEAKER_00: C, reversing ego dystonia to egosyntonia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or D, hormonal imbalances and temperamental traits.
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  SPEAKER_01: Final answer time.
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  SPEAKER_00: The correct answer is B,
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  SPEAKER_00: identity concealment,
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  SPEAKER_00: rejection,
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  SPEAKER_00: hypervigilance,
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  SPEAKER_00: and internalized stigma are the three key candidates identified to adapt
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  SPEAKER_00: for evidence-based practice to alleviate the excess mental health burden caused
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  SPEAKER_00: by societal stigma.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that concludes our investigation for today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive.
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  SPEAKER_01: I highly encourage you to return to chapter 21.2 of Kaplan and Sadoc
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  SPEAKER_01: to continue exploring alongside the text.
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  SPEAKER_01: Next time you encounter this topic in a clinical setting or a research paper,
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  SPEAKER_01: just recall that grand brass compass.
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  SPEAKER_01: Remember to look closely and ask yourself, which needle are we actually talking about?
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  SPEAKER_01: Until next time, keep diving deep.