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Elon Musk Full Interview with Timestamps VivaTech 2023 · Elon Musk Thinking

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I'm sorry, but the Edon Mask has not been able to join. So
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instead of having Edon Mask, who has been uh quote by some other meetings,
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I have his clone Edon musk. Yeah you don't thank you, thank
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you. Hey, guys, mhm h. You know you have to know
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that no one in Paris believed that you would be in personal. They all
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said, yeah, he's not coming, going to come. He was already
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at Versailles for Truth France, so he's not going to come and it would
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be a video. So is it rain? Are you right? I'm a
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hologram, A is a hologram or an android? Elan. It is a
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pleasure and an n to have you, so thank you for making the trip.
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I know that it has a lot been very easy, and I know
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also that for the first time in my life I will interview somebody who was
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introduct Yes, yes, you told me. I started out that way,
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shy and introduct. So I'm asking the audience to be a little bit gentle
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with Ellen because it's so shy that he needs your support. And on top
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of that, on top of that is speaking in front of his motor so
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you can imagine how difficult it is. Sad yeah. So as you have
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seen since we have announced your participation, it has been quite something because everyone
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wanted to be here, so we had to change. We had the very
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imodest room with only one thousand and five hundred people, okay, and we
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had to move here. And you have to know that the Dome Do Party
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is the place where there is the musicals. So we are not expecting you
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to sing or to dance, but if you can do it, we would
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be very happy. Yeah. But you have also to know that this is
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the room where Steve Jobs was coming. Every time it was doing a keynote
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or presenting new products, it was here. Okay. So I hope that
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you like the symbol and you you don't need any introduction. Your name is
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a brand, is already a brand. It's a brand for innovation, for
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ambition, for perfume. Yes, yes, this is the agreement that you
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made with the art No family a few hours ago. I mean it's I
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mean really brands itself. Yeah. And you are the origin of papal Tesla
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SpaceX, to name a few, and even open the Eye. So you
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love taking risks and you are going always against the tide and the popular wisdom.
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You have been always proven right now there is now there is a bet
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of the forty four billion US dollar question, which is will you still be
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right with Twitter? Sure? So it was expensive, Yeah, I don't
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know if um you know, listen, if I'm so smart, why did
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I pay so much for Twitter? Then? So, as I'm not a
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journalist, I'm not trying to get headlines and to have provocative response and to
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make us cool. But nevertheless, if you wish to do that, it
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is authorized. Okay, great, So we are expecting that you will really
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make the show because everyone came here to see you, to listen to you,
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and to get some of the magic that you have. All right,
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well, but I'm honored that you all. I want to listen to what
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I have to say. It's great to see the crowd, and I know
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you guys seem awesome. So but you told me that you would like you
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said that you would like to speak in French. Oh my goodness. So
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there are some people who believe that you are genius, and yeah, there
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are some you will believe that you are evil. So okay, I mean
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you can be both. We I mean you could be an evil genius.
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That's not you know, so you we can what you are? Oh you
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will let the people that awful trusion. Um, I am definitely not evil.
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Yeah, can me? What is the thing that you have ahead of
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your own? Yes? So if you, if you're careful, you can
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see an angel's halo on my head and the wings. It's a subtle.
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But are the wings, Yeah, there's They're difficult to see, but if
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you look carefully, you know they're right there, small wings. Yes.
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Um so yeah, no, no, hopefully not evil. That's aspirationally not
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evil. Um so yeah. Um okay, so that was. You have
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done a lot of operation. You have created a lot of companies. The
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most important question for everyone is what the hell is driving you? Why are
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you so obsessed by new operation, new creation, new things to do?
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Yeah, Crystal mess it's the answer. Um if you think red Bull gives
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your wings? Um so, man, that that that's that that quote's gonna
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probably staying um so, um yeah, just kidding for the record. Um
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so, well, I think there's The companies still have a lot to do
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for their the core mission. Um, the you know, for electric vehicles
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to stainable energy. Still less than one percent of the global fleet is electric,
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so We've got about two billion cars and trucks on the road, but
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it's still less than twenty million are electric at this point. So there's still
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a long way to go for sustainable energy, for sustainable energy generation. So
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this, you know, the test emission. I think we've we've made a
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lot of progress, but still, um, it's a lot more ahead then
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SpaceX. The goal is it's a it's a big goal, but it's we
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want to try to make life multiplanetary, to extend life beyond Earth. And
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I think this is important for a number of reasons. But um, yeah,
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there's there's the sort of defensive reason of ensuring that the light of consciousness
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does not go out. Um. And if I made some of these crushes,
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if I'm going on too long, you feel free to interrupt me,
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but you can, okay, okay, So um, you know, people
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do ask me, you know, have I seen UFOs and aliens and that
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kind of thing? And I haven't, um, and I think I would
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have seen them by now. Um. So it appears that we might we
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might be the only consciousness at least in this galaxy. And and if so,
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that's kind of a scary prospect because it means that the light of consciousness
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is like a like a tiny candle in a vast darkness, and we should
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do everything we can to prevent that candle from going out. So yeah,
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and and so some of the things. So that means obviously taking the actions
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to ensure that Earth is good, that Earth is safe and secure for civilization,
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um and it I think it also means extending life beyond Earth, to
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other planets in the Solar System and ultimately to other star systems. And I
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think that's that's both a sort of defense of the line of consciousness and also
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I think a point of inspiration, because life cannot just be about solving one
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problem after another. We need things that inspire us. I mean, we
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need things that prove our hearts and that when you wake up in the morning,
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you're excited to be alive and being a space bearing civilization and making true
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the things that we see in the good science fiction movies. This is one
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of the things that I think can inspire all of humanity, just like the
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you know, when the National Twins of the Moon in sixty nine, it
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was something that then they said for mankind, you know, and it really
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was something you say to any human on Earth. What's these what's like the
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most amazing thing that humanity has ever done a lot of At least one of
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those things would be to find out more or to purchase this trunk, Matt,
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click the link in the video description or click the link in the pin
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comment below. We went to the moon, you know, And so you
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want to have these inspiring things that make you excited to be alive and excited
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about the future. Yeah, and you you had those souls and dreams when
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you are a kid or this game much later on. Well, I didn't
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think I would be doing these things as a kid, m That's for sure.
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I was interested in technology. I read a lot of books, so
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I was obviously interested in science. I mean, this is hard, They're
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going to be surprising. I was interested in science fiction and technology. You
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have to tend the truth because to you, Yeah, my mom's right,
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called me out on this if it's not not accurate. But um so,
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I guess the thing that was maybe um most significant from a philosophical standpoint was
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that when I was about maybe twelve or thirteen, had somewhat of an existential
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crisis where I was like, I was like, what what is the meaning
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of life? Is life just meaningless? Why are we here? What does
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it all mean? And and I read a lot of books on religion and
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philosophy, and then ultimately, you know, I read this book, Hitchhiker's
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Guides the Galaxy, which is great um and and in that book, that
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book is really a philosophy book that disguised this humor. And the point that
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Douglas Adams makes is that the real difficulties under standing what questions to ask about
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the answer that is the universe, um and that we that that really we
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want to we want to have. It's it's essentially it's like a philosophy of
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curiosity, um of of saying, well, what can we do to find
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out more about the nature of the universe and and the meaning of life?
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And so that's that's the sort of foundational element. And then from there you
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say, okay, well, if we want to find out meaning of life,
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we have to expand the scope and scale of consciousness. We have to
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got there and we explore the stars to know what questions to ask about the
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universe and understand the universe. And that's that's my core philosophy um and and
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and so from that it was like, well, we have to make sure
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that Earth is good, so we have to have sustainable energy. Um Um,
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we want to bold technology to travel beyond Earth. And that's that's it's
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from that sort of core philosophy that these companies arise. In most cases.
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UM, I can say, how does Twitter help with that? I would
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like to go back to Earth sure, and to the various enterprises that you
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contributed to create or co created or created. Let's start with PayPal. So
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very impresed company. Do you regret to have sold it? I think in
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retrospect, I think it was it was good that that the company was acquired
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by eBay um because there was so much talent at PayPal, and that talent
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subsequently went on to create many other companies. Um. So YouTube, for
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example, was created by two people that worked at a paper UM we had.
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There was LinkedIn was created from from PayPal, There was Yelled, There
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was many other companies Russian. Yeah, you're very impression. Yeah so and
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then and if if I'd been still working on PayPal, then there wouldn't be
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you know, test that would not be in a card form and SpaceX wouldn't
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exist. Yes, so yes, I guess A short, short answer yes,
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yeah, short until you that yes yeah yeah, but now with then
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you would have loved to keep it again. Well, there is I think,
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um, the potential to do something that is, um um bigger than
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PayPal. Um. This is sort of like the x the sort of everything
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out kind of thing. So I think it's it's somewhat poetic trying to get
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good, good, finish the task that was started about twenty four years ago.
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Um, I think it's I think it's going to be useful. X
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slash Twitter is going to be just a very useful thing, um and hopefully
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something that is a positive force for civilization. Moving to Tesla, I have,
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through one of our operations, don't the first advertising campaign for the electric
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car of GM that was at the end of the nineties. So can you
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explain why GM and other car manufacturers have not created Tesla and why Tesla is
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successful? What is the difference? UM's about the e V one basically the
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EV one car that so General Motors actually they've come out with this electric vehicle
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one EV one and it's yes, you would remember the EV one, yes,
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yeah, um, And actually so I thought when that yeah, that
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sounds about right. Yeah, Um, I would have. I expected there
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would be an EV two, EV three and so forth, and if if
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they had done that, actually there would be no need for Tessa Um.
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But um. For reasons that that aren't clear, they gm recalled all of
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the ev ones, even from customers that really wanted to keep the cars.
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They recalled the cars and they crushed them in a junkyard, and it blows,
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It still blows in my mind that they did this because the people who
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had the ev ones, they loved the car so much. They held a
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candlelit vigil at the junk yard where the cars were crushed. Okay, like
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it was like like someone was getting killed, you know, like it's and
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it's like if somebody is holding a candle lit vigil for the because they love
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your products so much, maybe you should make more of it, you know.
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I mean, it's like pretty rare for candle at vigils to be help
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for products. So I don't understand why they didn't do more, and they
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should have and they would be the leader in electric pickles today, but they
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didn't. They didn't, and so there was a need for Tesla because the
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you know, at the time of starting Tesla, there were no electric vehicles
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being made, and they were, so the big car companies were not making
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electric pickles. There were no startups that we were aware of making electric pickles.
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So it's like, well, we should try. And I mean in
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the case of both Tesla and SpaceX, I thought the chance of success was
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maybe ten percent. So I just felt like I thought it would be successful.
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I thought it would fail. A goodnesson And now moving to the kids
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dream, which is to become an astronaut and not to buid rockets. How
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you move from the idea that every child has I would be anstronaut to I
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would do reusable rockets. Yeah, you forgot No, I'm trying to compress
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the story so that they're not too long because of the story is actually quite
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long because I didn't start out wanting to the rockets. At first, I
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was going to do this m philanthropic mission to Mars called Mars Oasis. And
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then as I started investigating the what it would take to launch the submission to
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Mars just a little greenhouse basically, UM it was intended to ins buy the
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public, and I started understanding more about the what rockets could be used.
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UM. I actually went to Russia a few times to UM try to buy
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some of their nuclear missiles UM minus the nuclear minus the nuke. UM,
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that's the extra UM. So that was pretty wild being in Russia in two
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thousand and one negotiating to buy two of the biggest missiles UM. But but
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but it became it became clear that the UM and unless there was something new
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with rockets, there were that that that that was the fundamental issue. The
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cost of access to space was the fundamental issue. So it wasn't it wasn't
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a question of trying to increase the public's desire. Public's desire for space and
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exploration is very high. But there needs to be a means, there needs
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to be a way UM and uh, they need they need to be a
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radical improvement in the cost of access to aubent UM. So I was like,
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Okay, well I'm gonna try starting a rocket company and see if it's
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successful. But I, like said I told people at the time, because
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because the people would say to me, let's tell me this joke of like
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what's the fast you know, what's what's the you know, how how do
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you go from sorry? Um? So I'm getting a little hot into the
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collar here. UM, I think a lot of people are um, so
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they'll say, what's the fastest way to make us small fortune in the rocket
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industry? In it? And the punchline is you start with a large one.
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So you know it was it was a tough going for a while.
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Our first three launches failed. Fortunately the fourth one succeeded. If the fourth
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one had not succeeded, a SpaceX would not exist. So it was a
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very close call. Fast forwards, you created or you co created Opening Eye.
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Yes, chat GPT has been incredibly success, incredibly successful. It's the
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fastest growing ever story. And after having created Opening Eye, suddenly you say,
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oh, we should have a pose. Some people will say, oh,
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it's because he has not done it. Well, I mean I didn't
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think anyone would actually agree to the pause, but I thought, just for
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the record, I just want to say I think we should pause. I
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don't think that any Why do you want to shoot pose? Well, I
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think there's a there's a real danger for digital superintelligence having negative consequences, and
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so if we are I'm not careful with creating artificial general intelligence, we could
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have potentially a catastrophic outcome. So now I think there's a range of possibilities.
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I think the most likely outcome is positive for AI, but that's not
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every possible outcome. So we need to minimize the probability that something will go
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wrong with digital superintelligence. Yes, so I'm in favor of AI regulation because
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I think advanced AI is a risk to the public, and anything that's a
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risk to the public, there needs to be some kind of referee. That
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referee is the regulator, and so I think that that my strong recommendation is
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to have some regulation for AI. Some regulation for AI. Guess which is
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what you want? Not sure regulation, I guess there's probably plenty of regulators.
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Okay, So speaking about Twitter, you you have made a big bet
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on Twitter. You said it a few minutes ago that you paid too much.
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Yes, yes, and you are now going on to Twitter two point
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two or three point two, which I understand. It's a full scale invention
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of the company. Yeah, the company very rapidly. Yeah, the company
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is changing quad dramatically. There are a lot of controversy about Twitter. So
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I have, in fact three very quick questions. The first one is why
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have you decided to acquire The second is what was wrong at Twitter to make
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you acting? And the last one is then the last last of the suite,
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because there are many or the question is, why do you believe that
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you would be successful and you will be well? Thanks? Um, I
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can't imagine. I can't imagine that you will not be well. Thanks UM.
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So well. Obviously I was on Twitter as as a major user,
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and even before the acquisition closed, my Twitter account was the most interacted with
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account in the world. So my I guess I would be I'm pretty closely
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attuned to what's going on with Twitter, you know. I get a feel
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for how is it shifting one way or the other. And generally I was
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concerned that Twitter was having a negative effect on civilization, that it was having
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a corrosive effect on civil society, and and so that, you know,
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anything that undermines civilization I think is not good. And you know, go
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back to my point of like, we need to do everything possible to support
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civilization and move it in a positive direction, and I felt that it would.
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Twitter was kept moving more and more in a negative direction, and my
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hope and aspiration was to change that and have it be a positive force for
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civilization. It is not perceived like this. People are very happy to listen
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to that approach that the perception is very different. Well, I think it
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depends on I mean, I think if if somebody is a regular Twitter user,
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I think that most people would say that their experience has improved. We've
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we've gotten rid of ninety percent of the bots and the scams and and and
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the various bad things that we're happening. We've gotten rid of now at this
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point, I think ninety five percent of the child exploitation material that was on
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Twitter, which was a shock to see the amount of that that was really
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terrible. Some of that had been going on for ten years and no action.
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So I think we've done a lot of good in that respect. And
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and then I think we're you know, we've also done things like we have
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open sourced the algorithm, so we're trying to be as transparent as possible.
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So Twitter is the only social media company where you can see the actual code
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of the algorithm, so it's not like some secret black bots. I mean,
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the weightabild trust is the weightable trust does not take my word for it.
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It's let's let's show you exactly how it works and full transparency and and
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and we're also going to be showing like if your account is in any way
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affected by the Twitter system, you could see it clearly. Um and just
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you know, moving in I think a good direction. Um, we've I
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think the recommendation album. I don't want to get on too long for Twitter,
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but I think it's I think it's actually quite good and that those are
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on the who are on the Twitter system, I think generally think it's good.
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Um. The you know, we are seeing all time highs in usage,
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so at least you know, for the public out there, they are
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using the system more. Um so we're seeing your pretty significant week over week
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growth in usage. Um. So you know, the public is speaking with
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their time and if they're if they're putting their time on Twitter, that's a
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very good signal. Um. So that's that's that's very positive. Um.
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What would you say to advertisers who left Twitter to convince them to come back?
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Yeah, I actually I should say that. Um maybe with a few
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exceptions, almost all the advertisers have said that they've either come back or they
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said they will come back. So actually I feel pretty pretty optimistic about the
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future. UM. And yeah, so you know, we really at this
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point, I believe actually I'm not aware of any advertiser. That is either
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they've either come back or they said they will come back. I'm not aware
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of any exceptions. They're probably a few exceptions, but overall, I think
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it's it's very possible. Good. So what we have now a broader conversation.
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We will ask Chris Demand from Orange SiO of Orange to join us,
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as well as onto Ainao from AVMA. Why Millard while they are ranging,
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there is uh maybe yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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There is one question yeah that I would like to take care. So
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finally we are all together again. So uh, I had another question,
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but I will save it for later and I will give the floor to Crystal.
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Crystal the man with the CEO of Orange, and she is very much
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excited about putting some harsh, difficult question to you. Let's go social network
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Twitter. Yeah, obviously social networks and Twitter a fantastic to develop debates that
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maybe we'll look possible. Now there's also another of it, which is that
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there can be some disinformation. Thank news, Thank News. What that's crazy.
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I don't believe we need that. How do I know this is real?
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But now at young people and being in the digital field, and we
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provide digital services, that people use. There's also moved towards cyber bullying and
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harassment, which I think we all it's also a road to educate young people
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on how to use the technology and make sure that because some behaviors I mean
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on Twitter or other social nitias can actually have devastating hippics on people his Twitter,
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doing something about it? Or would you be willing to engage with other
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players? Actually an orange, we do a lot in that space. I
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mean, that's true. I think I think you know, Twitter is for
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sure willing to engage with others. Um And, as I said, the
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overarching goal is to have Twitter be a force, a positive force for civilization.
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And um, you know, so and and and and if you're on
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the platform and you're being harassed or bullied or whatever, obviously that's a negative
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experience. Um so, Um, so you know what we're doing is it's
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we call it sort of freedom of speech but not freedom of reach, which
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is that if you yes, you can say offensive things, but then your
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content is going to get downrated. So if you're a jerk, your your
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richual drop. So yeah, I think that's the right thing. And also,
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and I don't know if you will be competing with gar to launch the
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future fragrance forms and the Brian mask, so you have to compete very hard.
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But maybe you know I know that you had already the launch, but
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there is never the DJL, so you can put your question all right.
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Um, first of all, in the name of the thank you very much
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for being here. Is a co host of your attacked and it's it's great
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to have you unwelcome, all right, So change of subjects from Twitter.
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Um. At LVMH, our oldest mission is called Claude lambre I saw you
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enjoyed good wine? Yeah? Um, it's six hundred and fifty years old.
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Wow. Lui Viton was founded in eighteen fifty four. Our most ancient
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American missle, Tiffany, was founded in eighteen thirty seven. The sum of
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the years of existence of all our misson at LVMH is eight thousand, three
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hundred and ninety three years old. Wow. Testinize a teenager, right,
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yeah, nineteen nineteen years old and its market cap is already higher than LMH.
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So it's a question of age. Yeah. First question, first question,
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how much longer are you going to make us look so bad? A
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second question, more serious, do you feel the creation of value is more
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challenging in traditional or innovative business. Well, first of all, it's honored
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to be here and speak with you, so thanks for having me. You
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know, evaluations are our strange thing because you know, sometimes I've said,
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hey, I think the stock price is too high. It tells that,
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and then the stock price goes up. I'm like, okay, um,
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so if you eat, you tweet easy going up down? No the crazy
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thing. I mean when I've treated I think the stock price is too high,
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almost always it goes up. So I don't know, it's it's racing.
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So I guess in the case, it tells if the the really the
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value of the company is primarily on the basis of autonomy. So in my
39:35
opinion, um, because if you look at our total vehicle output, it's,
39:38
um, you know, it'll be almost two million vehicles this year or
39:42
something like that. Um. But that's that's still only two percent of total
39:46
vehicle production. So then why is our market cap so high? And it's
39:50
because the potential for autonomy. Um? Is that the value of autonomy it's
39:58
so high, UM that even even if you have a discount of percentage probability
40:04
of autonomy happening that is still incredibly valuable. So the average passenger car is
40:10
used only about ten hours a week, so an average about one and a
40:14
half hours a day. But if you have an autonomous robotaxi, the utility
40:19
might be fifty or sixty hours a week out of one hundred and sixty eight
40:22
hours. So now you've got a vehicle that costs the same but has five
40:27
times the utility. So it's so gigantic a change that that's really i think
40:35
the main driver of our value. And although I've said this before, I
40:38
think we will solve autonomy soon. Did you expect that the Tesla will be
40:45
at this level of market gap? No, I did not expect t would
40:50
be at this level of marketa because you get your extraordinary and fair either way.
40:58
I mean, I don't set the price, so you don't said maybe
41:00
just another quick question. I tried mid Journey the other day. Journey Journey
41:07
is amazing, right, and I asked the software to make it. If
41:10
you don't advertising campaign with only two words, So here it's a bad question
41:15
for you movie right if you if you want to put me out of a
41:21
job. That was my question. Do you feel this advertising production industry is
41:29
going to be threatened by AI. Be careful, not at all. It's
41:37
totally safe. I mean, AI is definitely going to be a massive disruptive
41:44
force. I mean, AI is probably the most disruptive technology ever. I
41:50
mean. The crazy thing is that, you know, the the advantage that
41:53
humans have is that we're smarter than other creatures. Like if we got into
41:58
a fight with a gorilla, the gorilla would define would be one. But
42:00
we're smart. So but now, for the first time, there's going to
42:05
be something that is smarter than the smartest human, like way smarter than the
42:08
smartest human. And as you can see from a journey, the art that
42:14
AI can create is incredible. It's so beautiful and it does it, you
42:17
know, within seconds. So we're at I mean, I think, you
42:27
know, there's that sort of saying, may you live in interesting times,
42:30
which I think is like not exactly a good thing sometimes, but it would
42:35
we actually live. I think we live in the most interesting of times the
42:39
advent of AI. And I actually thought to myself at one point like should
42:45
you know I would I really want to be alive at this point, like
42:47
let's say that there is some AI Onlmageddon that happens some sort of AI apocalypse.
42:54
I think I would still be want to be alive at this time to
42:57
see it and hopefully, you know, hopefully not not create cause it.
43:02
Um. But it's it's just a I think we live in an extremely interesting
43:10
time, you know, because the things that you see AI being able to
43:15
do now, it's going to do much more with each passing year. Um.
43:20
Cars will absolutely drive themselves better than any person could drive. Um,
43:25
we'll have humanoid robots. Um Like so tess Us developing a humanoid robot um
43:34
you call it the T eight hundred. It's uh, yeah, some people
43:37
will get that drug. Um it's a terminator um. So that yeah.
43:49
Um. But but if if you if you like, say, what isn't
43:52
it what is an economy? An economy is gdpoper capita times capita. Now
43:55
what happens if you don't actually have a limit on capita, if you if
43:59
you have an unlimited number of uh sort of people or robots. Um,
44:07
It's it's not clear what meaning an economy has at that point because you have
44:10
an unlimited economy effectively um so so like on the good side of the plus
44:16
side of AI, is that I think we are heading for an age of
44:20
abundance where any goods and services that you want you can just have um.
44:28
So that's the that's the that's the the positive side of of of AI futures
44:32
and age of abundance from the advance side inside, they say that we are
44:37
using AI sis many years and it is helping us a great deal. And
44:44
this tool that we are already using and they think it would be helping us
44:49
to do even faster some very good ad It will be probably long time before
44:57
they replace the creative minds a Smitha. Maybe you have an opinion on that,
45:02
and maybe you can Asmitha is the CDEO of loyal and she knows a
45:09
lot about digital, so maybe you can tell us a little bit about advertising
45:15
and AI and put your question to Elan. Yeah, so I'll pick up
45:20
from advertising and from what you said before about Twitter. So now we know
45:23
that Twitter is expensive and we know that it aims to have free speech.
45:30
The question I have is about winning the advertiser's trust to be a preferred social
45:37
media platform in the current context where the expected revenue you know, in twenty
45:43
twenty three is lower than twenty twenty two, you have brought in new leadership,
45:46
Linda, So I wanted to know that how will we win that trust?
45:52
And will Linda have the time, the support, the freedom because she's
45:55
an advertising expert, so will she be able to manage the situation and how?
46:01
Yeah, I think I think Linda is great. Um So, I
46:07
think Linda is going to do amazing things for core Twitter. UM and obviously
46:13
understands where advertisers are coming from, very deeply understands the concerns that advertisers have,
46:20
and I think we'll do a great job in addressing those concerns. Um.
46:24
You know, A key part is um you know, say like,
46:30
if you're an advertiser, what content do you want to appear next to?
46:34
And depending upon what advertiser, you know, the sensitivity of the brand.
46:37
Um. If you're, for example, say Disney and you're advertising a children's
46:42
movie, then you want to have you know, all ages content you know.
46:46
Um and by the way, Disney is one of our biggest advertisers,
46:50
so um so so. So it's really just making sure that the content adjacentcy
46:57
matches what a brand has come POWs and then in some cases where the content
47:04
is like you know, there's not going to be any advertising because nobody wants
47:07
to advertise next to it, and that's going to be some of the more
47:09
controversial stuff. Um yeah, follow up on that, you know, because
47:15
we were talking about content. You have just made the announcement that there will
47:20
be ad revenue sharing for creatures. Yes, yeah, and that has a
47:24
condition. It will be done when they are verified Bluetic creators and the advertising
47:30
is to verified blue ting users. Yes. Now, if with that,
47:35
how how does that impact your focus on subscription revenues because to be blue Tage,
47:40
you know, there's a subscription versus advertising revenues focus. To find out
48:46
more or to purchase this trunk map, click the link in the video description
48:52
or click the link in the pin comment below. Yeah. So a big
49:00
part of like when you say, like, say, how many impressions does
49:02
something get? You say like, well, were those impressions real or not
49:06
real? You know, was it you know, a computer just running one
49:10
hundred thousand fake accounts, Because that obviously doesn't count because the computer is not
49:15
going to buy anything. So that's why our focus is on on verified users,
49:22
because we are admittedly conflating verification and subscription at Twitter. So you could
49:28
see like verified subscriber or something like that. That's not it's not possible to
49:32
game that. So you know it's real, you know it's solid, and
49:36
you know it's not a computer. So that's why it's that that's why we're
49:42
focused on that is to ensure the authenticity of the views and that it really
49:46
that real people are seeing what's going on. I mean, the sheer amount
49:52
of bot and scam and spam activity and social media is insane um. And
49:57
we're talking about AI. It's very obvious that, especially with today's AI,
50:01
the computers can pass every like are you a human test? In fact,
50:07
I think they can pass all your human tests better than a human, you
50:10
know, sort off you say, like identify a traffic light or something like
50:14
that. Okay, let me tell you Tessa can identify a traffic light.
50:17
So if we're you know, and but even like open source AI stuff right
50:22
now can pass all of the human tests. So you have to have something
50:27
that there's better authentication than that. Yeah. Yeah, I think that contridence
50:37
and trust is something which we lose fast and that we regain slowly. I
50:43
have no adapt personally that Twitter will gain back to trust provided that you do
50:50
the right thing, and I'm sure that you will do the right thing.
50:52
So it is something which is probably just a hica into time, but you
51:00
need to do the writing, and I'm sure that you will do it.
51:06
I have two small questions, one which is regarding Ukraine. You have helped
51:19
enormously Ukraine at the beginning with starlings, and I think we owe you a
51:23
lot because without access access through internet and without access to communication, the war
51:37
would have been finished. What is your take on that experience? Yeah,
51:45
that was I mean that whole situation was very complex. Um, no kidding,
51:54
Yeah, it's really really complex. Um. Um. As you out,
52:00
Starlink did play play a provo pivotal role um because Russia had actually taken
52:06
out all of the satellite communications and all of the ground communications except for Starlink
52:08
was the only one that was still operating. Um and even today it is
52:13
still the only one that is effective at the front lines. And Starlink today
52:16
is the backbone of the Ukrainian military communications. UM. So you know,
52:23
I thought it was important to help out um. And but I but I
52:32
do, I do hope for some kind of resolution soon because I think it's
52:38
it's it's terribly sad that that's the flower of the youth of Ukraine and Russia
52:45
who don't want to be there. Um, that they're dying in trenches right
52:50
now, and I sure hope we can figure out some means to peace soon.
53:02
The last question is going back to this crown. You have a lot
53:09
of startupers, You have a lot of young people who want to be successful.
53:16
What are the two or three pieces of advice that you would give them?
53:22
Well, you have a question over there? Yes, uh, do
53:28
we have a microphone? Because alone has accepted to take question from the floor,
53:37
shout out a microphone, an, I go, you have the mic?
53:55
You go, yes, I don't know why you got the mic,
54:01
but please go right. Question companies projects, short question. Companies a lot
54:20
better on Mars. It's really hard to make a feedback on Mars. It's
54:30
easier election. Yeah yeah, I mean, um, okay, yeah,
54:42
give them my mike. Yeah yeah, I mean me and Mars should get
54:47
a room. Basically, I love Mars. Okay mm hmm no, no,
55:00
no, no, now I want that you gave the mike. Sorry,
55:02
guys, uh was there? Okay, sorry, what's the question?
55:08
What's is the question? My name is NAO co founder and CEO at click
55:13
Out. We make ai tiny so tast lies one of our targets. We
55:17
love to work with you all. H and my husband is actually extra movie
55:22
line. Who currently the infrastructure on MS? Okay? Okay? Sure?
55:30
Oh oh okay, one last question? Yeah whatever, yeah, okay,
55:45
however long you want to do it? Now? Yeah? Totally crazy at
55:51
ze yeah, um structure? Sure that's great. So well, I think
56:19
I think you'd want to have a very good mental health on a trip to
56:22
Mars. Uh. Make sure everyone's sane, because you don't want someone opening
56:27
at the airlock in the middle of the night. Um. So, I
56:30
think sanity is very important. Uh, if you're going to Mars, don't
56:35
you plum me at home? Plum me at home? Now? I thought,
56:38
they don't you pending me co cups? Don't you pining me? I
56:42
thought, but please, We're just gonna descend into chaos. Uh, I
56:49
just take it, okay, you would get okay? How is he?
56:57
Okay? Okay, thank you, Sir Nathaniel at command from Okay, I
57:02
think we're gonna just it's gonna be chaos, can you hear me? I
57:08
thought the public laz Hey, great, T shirt. So you talked about
57:20
the European Regulation ELAN, and you know that there have been many amendments due
57:28
to LM deployment. Do you think how can we integrate to use an actual
57:36
use of this LEM in a non controlled way in the current discussion? Can
57:44
you make atlation? Thank you? You're asking about LM us Okay just a
57:52
second, no, please, I will answer the question. It wasn't about
57:58
safety, safety and LMS or so I didn't hear the whole question. It's
58:02
like safe application of LMS or what is it? The regulation at the rogan
58:09
level was conceived when we do not talk about LLS. So what would you
58:17
integrate in the current reiation level to integrates the l and okay and and protect
58:30
from the use okay each sure, okay, when the regulation has been created,
58:37
LLM didn't exist. So what would be your suggestion regarding regulating LMS.
58:45
Well, I think more broadly, UM there should be UM regulatory insight into
58:52
LMS and really any other form of AI. I mean there's I'm not sure.
58:58
I don't think lms are the ultimate UM form of AI. UM I
59:02
mean the sort of an inside joke on AI of like, who do you
59:06
think will be the American president in twenty thirty two? Diffusion or transformers.
59:15
There's an inside jokes, but yeah, it's like what does that mean?
59:21
Um? But that like might be a real It might be real. UM.
59:24
So yeah, so we'll have just the two latest question one here and
59:32
one in that way journey, So go ahead, see it off. I
59:43
mean now if we don't listen to the question, will we not be able
59:46
to continue? Well? Every every year? My question is what present young
1:00:00
people focus on? UM? Sure? Uh, well, I think generally,
1:00:12
I think it's important to focus on something ahead. Sorry, I think,
1:00:17
UM, you want to focus on something that you are personally passionate about,
1:00:22
that you personally care about. UM. It's very hard to be motivated
1:00:25
for a product that you don't really feel strongly about. UM. And it
1:00:30
doesn't have to be high tech. It could be in any in any field.
1:00:35
It's just it's got to be a product that you feel is really needs
1:00:39
to be there. That that and and something that you personally love UM.
1:00:44
And I would listen to your instincts on on you know, do you do
1:00:46
you love this product or service? Um? Because it's it's kind of impossible
1:00:51
to know what do other people love. But if you love it, that's
1:00:53
a good sign, um and um. And that could that could be small
1:01:00
to large any kind of any field. It's it's just not be have to
1:01:04
be high tech. But if you don't love, if you if you don't
1:01:07
really love the product that you're making, if you can't like, a good
1:01:10
test would be that you can't wait for this product to be on the market.
1:01:15
And if that's the case, you're you're going in the right direction.
1:01:21
Great. Uh. Now the last question we have uh, we have a
1:01:31
French I don't know, we have a French say which is you're now and
1:01:45
now i'd get that wait wait no, now you you now? The kids?
1:01:55
I know it's if I've moved you get that post to post? No,
1:02:19
no to post. And he's very excited. When will when on pain
1:02:28
that peopill be able to start testing in our Victoria? Sure well, um,
1:02:38
certain, senor link is um. First of all, I want to
1:02:42
shore everyone if you may be worried about neural link that um you will see.
1:02:46
Uh. Neural link is going to be a fairly slow process because anything
1:02:50
that's done in humans it's very slow. So sometimes people think that this suddenly
1:02:54
we're gonna be chipping out one's head and then before they know it, everyone's
1:02:58
connected to the internet, and then we're trouble with your brain. So it's
1:03:02
going to happen very slowly. Hopefully later this year, we'll do our first
1:03:07
human device implantation, and this will be for someone that has sort of tetraplegic
1:03:13
quadriplegic, does not have has lost their connection from their their brain to their
1:03:19
body m and we think we should be able to that person will be able
1:03:22
to communicate as fast as someone who has a fully functional body. So that's
1:03:30
going to be a big deal. And we and we see a path beyond
1:03:31
that to actually transfer the signals from the motor cortex of the brain to pass
1:03:37
the injury in the spinal cord and actually enable someone's body to be used to
1:03:43
gain so essentially shunting the signals past the broken point and restore potentially full full
1:03:52
body used to someone that has completely lost the connection. And I mean you
1:03:59
can imagine like if say Stephen Hawking were live today, what a profound change
1:04:02
that would be. Um and UM. So that's our first application and uh,
1:04:09
if it's looking like that, the first case will be later this year.
1:04:15
So yeah, fantastic. Now I would die a very very warm rows
1:04:29
of a flows to a match, so that sounds good, all right,
1:04:40
any no, okay, thank you, thank you, thank You's wanna say,
1:04:53
you guys are great? You guys are I mean, it's it's so
1:04:57
inspiring to see so much energy and so much positive energy in the room.
1:05:00
So uh, this is a very aspiring for the future. Thank you,
1:05:11
thank you, Okay, thank you. To find out more or to purchase
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