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10-9 H4: Hugh Millen Con't & Raise A Pint · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Come on now, weirdos.
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Speaker 2: And then got up this morning, Anders and I, to
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Speaker 2: host our show here from the DraftKings Sportsbook at Tulalip
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Speaker 2: Resort Casino. And Hugh Millen, of course, staying the night
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Speaker 2: as well here at Tulalip. So he's been with us
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Speaker 2: since 830 and will be with us until the close
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Speaker 2: of the show. And so let's get into our normal
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Speaker 2: Friday segment, just special edition of X's and O's with Hugh.
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Speaker 2: And let's talk some Seahawks 49ers here as they play.
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Speaker 2: Their biggest game of the season to date this Sunday
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Speaker 2: at Lumen Field, 125 kickoff for this one. And let's
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Speaker 2: talk about their opponent. Let's kick off talking about their
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Speaker 2: quarterback because he is having a fantastic year. Here's been
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Speaker 2: my experience with Brock Purdy as a sports talk show host.
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Speaker 2: When he first came into the league, everybody wanted to
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Speaker 2: label him as a game manager. I didn't quite see
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Speaker 2: it that way, but I did call him sports tofu.
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Speaker 2: I thought that Brock Purdy is somebody that can be
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Speaker 2: really tasty, but not on his own.
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Speaker 1: He has to absorb all the flavors around him.
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Speaker 2: He's got to soak up. He had a pro bowler
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Speaker 2: everywhere around him. He had arguably the best tight end
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Speaker 2: and arguably the best running back and a good receiving core.
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Speaker 2: All-pro left tackle and the best fullback in the game.
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Speaker 2: So I called him sports tofu because he just soaks
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Speaker 2: up all those flavors around him and can taste really good.
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Speaker 2: But this year, he's the entree so far this year.
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Speaker 2: He's actually being that quarterback. He's the ribeye. He's the
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Speaker 2: one making everybody, it looks like, better on his team.
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Speaker 2: McCaffrey looks like he's slowed a little bit. They don't
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Speaker 2: have the same receiver core that they used to have.
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Speaker 2: George Kittle hasn't been 100% so far this season. Trent
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Speaker 2: Williams is getting older, and it's Purdy that seems to
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Speaker 2: be carrying the offense right now. And so, man, that
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Speaker 2: for me is a pretty quick major arc. to his
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Speaker 2: career for somebody that was taken with the last pick
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Speaker 2: in the NFL draft.
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Speaker 1: Very impressive. It's an incredible story. Believe it or not,
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Speaker 1: there is a I'm not going to say an evaluation,
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Speaker 1: but I could use the word evaluation. It's probably safer
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Speaker 1: to say impression. If you were just going to scout quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: because obviously everybody got it wrong. He's Mr. Irrelevant. A
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Speaker 1: big part of what it draws a conclusion on guys
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Speaker 1: can be ascertained in less than 60 seconds. Because if
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Speaker 1: you went to a guy's pro day and you stood
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Speaker 1: 10 feet behind him, what can you assess? You can
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Speaker 1: assess his size, right? His height, you know, just his frame, right? Yeah. Um,
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Speaker 1: you can, Watch him take a drop back, and maybe
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Speaker 1: the second time he said, I want you to drop
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Speaker 1: back and then sprint out, set up. Then so you
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Speaker 1: can assess his feet. You just look at his feet,
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Speaker 1: whether you say, hey, how does this move? You can
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Speaker 1: assess how quick his release is the very first time, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You can assess the velocity. How does he spin it?
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Speaker 1: So believe it or not, a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: drive decisions can be, I said 60 seconds. Hell, it
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Speaker 1: could be 15 seconds. Yeah. And so... Brock Purdy fails
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Speaker 1: that test. No, he's thick, so I think that's allowed
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Speaker 1: him to be durable. But he's short. I think his
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Speaker 1: movement skills are underrated. I think his pocket movements, he's
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Speaker 1: got great feel. But that isn't evaluated in the first
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Speaker 1: 15 seconds. He's got a lollipop arm by NFL standards.
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Speaker 1: 32 guys. He has less velocity on the ball. He's
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Speaker 1: Jamie Moyer. Oh. What you have to do is then
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Speaker 1: you have to say, okay, that lack of traits is
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Speaker 1: going to put a burden. He's going to have to
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Speaker 1: have compensating factors. The other aspects of quarterbacking are going
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Speaker 1: to have to be better because the physical traits in
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Speaker 1: that regard are diminished. Now, you touched on something that
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Speaker 1: is really important. Game manager Kyle Shanahan, I've been very
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Speaker 1: intrigued by this whole study because Like, who is this guy?
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Speaker 1: It's a little bit like a Kurt Warner. You know,
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Speaker 1: who is this guy? And I remember watching an interview
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Speaker 1: where Kyle Shannon just looked at me and goes, listen,
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Speaker 1: I don't want a game manager. Like, that term, you know,
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Speaker 1: I want somebody that will be aggressive when the situation calls.
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Speaker 1: And if you think about this, the 49ers, maybe you
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Speaker 1: could look it up. I think that... that they uh
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Speaker 1: they traded two number ones but it might have even
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Speaker 1: been like a third or something number one to get
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Speaker 1: the number three over was it three number one.
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Speaker 3: But then they traded it down in this so it
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Speaker 3: was really two number ones two.
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Speaker 1: Number one but but then they traded yeah yeah right
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Speaker 1: but they traded down but then they added two more
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Speaker 1: yeah okay but anyway it was a lot it was
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Speaker 1: a lot and a third rounder and a third round
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Speaker 1: it was a lot yep whatever the harvest was um
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Speaker 1: And Trey Lance, you know, passes the 15-second test. Right.
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Speaker 1: You know, big dude, moves great, strong arm, you know,
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Speaker 1: throw a ball through a wall. And yet Shanahan, you know,
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Speaker 1: went the direction of Purdy. What's his compensating factor? He
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Speaker 1: has incredible anticipation. And, you know, he will throw the ball.
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Speaker 1: He has a sense of seeing the picture particularly in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the field. We're in a division where
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Speaker 1: we've got to deal with Matthew Stafford for the time
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Speaker 1: and Brock Purdy. If you took the 30 or 50
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Speaker 1: best throws from Matthew Stafford in any given year, last
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Speaker 1: year's MVP, you would see numerous throws over the middle.
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Speaker 1: This is Matthew Stafford. You'd see numerous throws between the numbers,
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Speaker 1: and you would see numerous throws to the sideline. Smoking comebacks,
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Speaker 1: smoking corner routes. And so he would make impressive throws
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Speaker 1: throughout the field. You take Brock Purdy's 30 or 50
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Speaker 1: best of his plays, almost all of them are going
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Speaker 1: to be in the middle of the field. He does not,
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Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, drive the ball to the sideline
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Speaker 1: with any real impression. Certainly not in a manner of staff.
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Speaker 1: But now when you say, okay, we're just grading on anticipation.
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Speaker 1: his 30 or 50, how many of them show a
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Speaker 1: lead anticipation where he's just lobbing this ball right into
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Speaker 1: the spot and then out of nowhere some receiver just
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Speaker 1: comes running in and boom, they hit some right in
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Speaker 1: the letters. And he will have done that from under
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Speaker 1: center play action where he turns his back to the
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Speaker 1: defense which triples the degree of difficulty in that. And
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Speaker 1: so now I will slightly disagree with you. I I
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Speaker 1: was prepared to say Mike Evans has made a huge
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Speaker 1: difference to the 49ers. Mike Evans probably better to ask Sando.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the probability that Mike Evans was
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Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer. Certainly it was
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Speaker 1: on the table. I don't think it was a slam dunk,
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Speaker 1: but it was on the discussion. I think it is.
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Speaker 1: But I think kind of the cohesion that he has,
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans being a high IQ guy, and he can
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Speaker 1: make the contested throw outside, excuse me, the contested catches outside.
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Speaker 1: So when Purdy just kind of puts those lollipop balls
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Speaker 1: outside where a defender might otherwise have a chance to
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Speaker 1: make a play on it. Now Mike Evans has that
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Speaker 1: innate ability to use his body like a rebounder in
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Speaker 1: basketball to and they're getting some plays outside, but then
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Speaker 1: he's got the frame. I've looked at the tape. There's
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Speaker 1: a go route where he's coming. It was a little
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Speaker 1: bit underthrown, but he just shows his experience, and he
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Speaker 1: just late hands that thing using his body. That's a
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Speaker 1: professional catch for a touchdown. He comes back, nods on
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Speaker 1: the safety, bends back in on the perfect, Purdy throws
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Speaker 1: the ball right into the middle of the field. So
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Speaker 1: he's doing it from the slot. He's doing it from
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Speaker 1: the outside. And then Kittle... Kittle seems to be fresher.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little ignorant to what his injury status is,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like Brock Purdy would tell you, you know,
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Speaker 1: and he's got, you know, for whatever, Debo Samuel back,
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Speaker 1: you know, there's some familiarity. I think that he probably feels.
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Speaker 1: Thin Debo, too, not fat Debo. Yeah, yeah, thin Debo. Yeah, crazy, right? Yeah. But,
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Speaker 1: you know, so for Brock Purdy, and much has been
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Speaker 1: made this week, there's the game in 2014. and 23
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Speaker 1: on Christmas night when he was with the Ravens against
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. He had four picks. Now, he had 255 yards.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't totally shut down. Last year in week one
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Speaker 1: in Lumen, he got the win and threw for 277 yards.
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Speaker 1: So it hasn't all been a disaster, but here's the part.
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Speaker 1: What Mike McDonald really specializes in is at the end
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Speaker 1: of the year, This happened in 2022. His first year
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, having come from Michigan in 2021, happened in 2023.
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Speaker 1: It happened last year. When you give him a big
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Speaker 1: volume of offense to look at, he puts the vice
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Speaker 1: on you. And last year, the 49ers have a bye.
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Speaker 1: This is last season. They come out of the bye.
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Speaker 1: They go 5-0. For 430 yards, then 440, then 496
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Speaker 1: the three weeks after the bye. That's a 455 average.
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Speaker 1: Then they play the Seahawks. and they have 173 total yards.
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Speaker 1: And then, you know, and then I think it was
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Speaker 1: 236 in the playoff game. That's funny, because it's true.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's, yeah, that's like... Yeah, that's like
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Speaker 1: teaser music, man. Just citing those numbers could get you
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Speaker 1: kind of aroused, huh? Oh, yes.
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Speaker 3: Tickles my pickle, I'll tell you that. I just want
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Speaker 3: to say it again.
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Speaker 1: That felt so good. It did. I want to say it.
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Speaker 1: It was 455, and then the Seahawks held them to 173. Oh, yeah. Oh, God.
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Speaker 1: Clean up on aisle three. Yeah. Took them apart. Beat
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Speaker 1: them up, too. Beat them up.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I got to the point in a playoff
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Speaker 2: game where you're getting ready to eliminate a rival from
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. And a 41-6 laugher, I started feeling sorry
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Speaker 2: for how badly battered Brock Purdy.
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Speaker 1: Was getting in that game. It was so cool. It
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Speaker 1: was so cool, says Hugh Millen. And even where he
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Speaker 1: had a shot on him, oh, God, he just got
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Speaker 1: him right in the chest, even where he was blitzing.
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Speaker 1: And he stones the guard, and then the 49ers didn't
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Speaker 1: pick it up, and then that allowed him to pick
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Speaker 1: up the stunt, and that allowed him a straight shot. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Let me stay on the Niners.
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Speaker 2: I mean, certainly we want to worry about us, too.
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Speaker 1: We want to talk about Seahawks, too.
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Speaker 2: But, I mean, there's not been a 49er game that
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Speaker 2: we've prepared for as a radio station, as a morning
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Speaker 2: show with you on it, where you haven't made it
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Speaker 2: a point to bring up Kyle Juszczyk. Like, we've got
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Speaker 2: to talk about Kyle Juszczyk and the way that he
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Speaker 2: affects the game. He's not going to play in this game.
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Speaker 2: So how does the absence of Kyle Juszczyk, how's that
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Speaker 2: going to affect this game?
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Speaker 1: Well, Juszczyk, by providing a lead blocker, and most teams, now,
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Speaker 1: it's not quite as big as a factor as it was,
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Speaker 1: and let me explain. I think for several years there,
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Speaker 1: it would be fair to call the 49ers the most
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Speaker 1: physical offense ever. In the NFL, their receivers block like
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Speaker 1: tight ends. The tight end, Kittle, was as physical as anybody.
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Speaker 1: While Kelsey was the best pass catching in that era,
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Speaker 1: Kittle was the most all-around, very physical. So if you're
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Speaker 1: running the outside zone like they want to, you've got
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Speaker 1: to have a tight end that can control the edge.
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Speaker 1: He could do it. And then with a fullback in
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Speaker 1: Yushef who went to Harvard, and plays smart, he'd be,
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Speaker 1: as a lead blocker, he would just be, he would
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Speaker 1: just look at it like, on some cases, now some
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Speaker 1: blocking schemes you say it's called Bob, back on backer,
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Speaker 1: and he's got his assignment. Sometimes it's a boss, but
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Speaker 1: back on strong safety. So he has his assignments, but
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Speaker 1: to get to some of his assignments, he would be
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Speaker 1: like the runner, running back, and just find the hole,
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Speaker 1: to go make his block. And he's so damn smart
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Speaker 1: in his instincts and he can see how things are
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Speaker 1: flowing that he would hit the hole and he would
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Speaker 1: lead the runner to the right spot. And just going
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Speaker 1: back a few years ago, oh, the details. Man, we're
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Speaker 1: on the 33rd team. They are making a big deal
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Speaker 1: about the following. You just go back about four years ago,
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Speaker 1: four or five years ago, 11 personnel dominated the league,
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Speaker 1: which is one running back, one tight end, three wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: Now you're seeing the 13 personnel. You're seeing more two-back
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Speaker 1: and what have you. So offenses are getting heavier, and
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Speaker 1: that's for another discussion. So now defenses, because they see
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Speaker 1: other teams and heavier personnel, the 49ers don't have as
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Speaker 1: much an advantage. Before, it would be like, hey, we
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Speaker 1: haven't seen a fullback all year, and it's week 13.
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Speaker 1: And what happens is now it's not enough just to
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Speaker 1: be in the gap. You've got to have somebody in
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Speaker 1: the inside of the gap, a linebacker on the inside
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Speaker 1: of the gap, and then you better have somebody on
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Speaker 1: the outside of the gap, too, because Yuchef has just
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Speaker 1: created another gap where he inserted. Does that make sense?
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Speaker 1: And so teams, if you're not seeing that every week
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Speaker 1: and you don't practice it, it would be more effective.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how they respond. Do they go less
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Speaker 1: 21 personnel? But If they want to change their identity,
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Speaker 1: I say I'm okay with it. I mean, even without him.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And we talked
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Speaker 1: about this when Seattle played the 49ers last year. When
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Speaker 1: they would go heavy personnel, Seattle would still stay in nickel.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't drive them into base because Eamon Worre is,
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Speaker 1: in Mike McDonald's view, he can be a linebacker. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. He'll get heavy personnel. But not just that,
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Speaker 1: but they play with two safeties back. So Seattle plays
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Speaker 1: with a light box personnel-wise and a light box in
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Speaker 1: terms of the safety count. So the safeties are back
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Speaker 1: on playing the seam coverages that take away the big play.
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Speaker 1: They're able to stop the run. We were at the
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Speaker 1: video thing where we say the Seahawks with their safeties.
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald loves what? With the safeties. They are playing
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Speaker 1: with popcorn on that play.
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Speaker 3: Steep some popcorn. Give it high fives.
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Speaker 1: They're just in the back end. They just come up.
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Speaker 1: The tackle's already made. They did the same job as
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Speaker 1: you and me. They just watch the play with popcorn
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Speaker 1: like us. And Mike McDonald loves that. And Seattle's incredibly
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Speaker 1: effective with that. They do a one-on-one. generally do a
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Speaker 1: gap and a half assignment. So Leonard Williams, if he's
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Speaker 1: in the B gap, lined up in the B gap
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Speaker 1: between the guard and the tackle, and he'll penetrate and
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Speaker 1: stop and he'll hold. He won't try and get all
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Speaker 1: the way up the field. He'll just hold, hold, hold.
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Speaker 1: And then if he's in a position, even though he's
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Speaker 1: in the B gap, he can throw to the A gap,
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Speaker 1: throw the guard and get in the A gap if
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Speaker 1: need be. So it's... In theory, they wouldn't get as
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Speaker 1: many tackles for losses that way. They get tackles for
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Speaker 1: losses in other ways with the simulated pressures. But they
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Speaker 1: don't get tackles for losses from guys penetrating early on.
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Speaker 1: So how they handle the gap and create an extra
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Speaker 1: man in the gap by that cohesion of this front
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Speaker 1: seven allows them to play in the back half. And
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Speaker 1: I'll close the thought with this. At the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: last year, ran into Mac Jones, who's the backup quarterback
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Speaker 1: for the 49ers. Now, us being former Patriot quarterbacks, we'd
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Speaker 1: met at a function before, and so just had a
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Speaker 1: visit with him. He's a really nice guy. Why was
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Speaker 1: he there? It's not like he was playing. It's his stadium.
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Speaker 1: It's his stadium, but he happened to be. But I
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Speaker 1: don't know where we were. And so we started just chatting,
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Speaker 1: and hey, what's up? What was your impression of Seattle?
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Speaker 1: At this juncture, he had just been in the meeting
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Speaker 1: room preparing for the Seahawks, not once but twice, the
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Speaker 1: playoff game and then the Week 18 game, right? And
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Speaker 1: he just, first thing out of his mouth, you can't
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Speaker 1: get the big play. You cannot get the big play.
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Speaker 1: Marty just said that yesterday at his press conference. We're
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Speaker 1: trying to find big plays. We can't get the big plays.
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Speaker 1: And I think McDonald felt... going into that game that
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Speaker 1: after watching the entire body of the tape of the year,
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Speaker 1: they had everything dialed in. They had so many checks.
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Speaker 1: You know, hey, if they go to this formation and
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Speaker 1: you see this, we're checking to this. If they shift
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Speaker 1: to this, we're checking to that. And everybody, nobody even
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Speaker 1: had to turn around and talk. Everybody was so dialed in.
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Speaker 1: So McDonald was getting them to the best level defense
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Speaker 1: for the personnel, the splits of the receivers, how tight
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Speaker 1: are the receiver splits, what kind of motion, all the
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Speaker 1: leverage components of it. They were checking to the defense
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Speaker 1: that gave them the highest probability. They knew what was happening,
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Speaker 1: and then they rally and tackle because they've got guys
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Speaker 1: that can fly like Witherspoon. If he's a slot defender,
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Speaker 1: he can cover a lot of ground. Eamon Worry can
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Speaker 1: cover a lot of ground. They're both Great tacklers in
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Speaker 1: different ways. Eamon Worre because of his length. Witherspoon because
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Speaker 1: he's so athletic he doesn't have to break down. He
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Speaker 1: just comes up on you 99 miles an hour and
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Speaker 1: you can't make a move before he's on you. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, so all of those elements, you know, combine.
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Speaker 1: to really have a hell of a defensive effort against
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Speaker 1: the 49ers.
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Speaker 2: Well, I know one check the 49ers can make, and
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Speaker 2: that's a use check, because he is not going to
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Speaker 2: be on the field on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It just wrote itself, didn't it? It did. It just
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Speaker 1: wrote itself. You didn't write that. No, not at all.
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Speaker 1: That's a use check I can cash, is what that is.
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Speaker 2: All right, more on the Seahawks and 49ers with Hugh
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Speaker 1: And you know what?
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Speaker 2: Seahawks 49ers on Sunday. Brian Flory having moved over from
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Speaker 2: the 49ers, so he's going to be, you know, have
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Speaker 2: those emotions stirred. Even the Kozlas are former 49er people. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they're going to have their emotions stirred, I would think.
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Speaker 1: They better not.
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Speaker 2: You know, a week after pissing off all Seahawks fans
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Speaker 2: by saying never say never.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what the heck was that? You got any thoughts
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Speaker 1: on that? Yeah. I'm telling you that right now. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people bothered by that. Well, you know, to me,
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I want to have the appropriate response.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to overreact. Sure. I don't want to
21:07
Speaker 1: underreact and whistle by the graveyard if there's some type
21:11
Speaker 1: of signal here. My first thought, he's just trying to
21:14
Speaker 1: leverage for a better lease. But it struck me there's
21:19
Speaker 1: a country song. I happen to think it's a very
21:22
Speaker 1: good country song by an artist named Chris Cagle, and
21:27
Speaker 1: the title is What Kind of Gone? And the theme
21:31
Speaker 1: is his gal has got mad and left, and she says,
21:34
Speaker 1: I'm gone. And he's like, what kind of gone are
21:38
Speaker 1: you talking about here? He says, there's gone for the day,
21:41
Speaker 1: there's gone for the night, and there's gone for the
21:43
Speaker 1: rest of your doggone life is the chorus, right? And
21:47
Speaker 1: so I'm like, what kind of never say never are
21:50
Speaker 1: you talking about here, Bernard Kostler? Do you mean never
21:55
Speaker 1: say never? And then he started talking about in 500 years.
21:59
Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen in 500 years.
22:02
Speaker 1: And then I thought, oh. Now he's talking like a philosopher.
22:05
Speaker 1: Like a philosopher would say that. That's what I took.
22:08
Speaker 2: Like the John Nash, I don't speak in absolutes. Maybe
22:12
Speaker 2: that's just his philosophy in life.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if he's going to be a philosopher in life guy,
22:18
Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen in 500 years. There's
22:22
Speaker 1: a kind of cool thing in philosophy. There's what's called
22:25
Speaker 1: the Zeno's Paradox. Anybody heard of the Zeno? Probably unlikely.
22:29
Speaker 1: And some philosopher said you can never walk across the
22:33
Speaker 1: room because– and then he goes mathematically. Because to get
22:36
Speaker 1: halfway across the room, you have to first get halfway
22:39
Speaker 1: from that. And then you'll never get– and you can–
22:44
Speaker 1: derived this into infinite fractions, and it actually has a title,
22:48
Speaker 1: Zeno's Paradox. I can never get it all the way
22:51
Speaker 1: across the room because I can't get halfway because then
22:54
Speaker 1: I've got to get halfway of that and halfway of
22:56
Speaker 1: that and halfway of that. And then Diogenes had a
23:01
Speaker 1: response to that, and it was called Salvature Ambulando, which
23:06
Speaker 1: means solved by walk-in. Because Diogenes says, that's nonsense. Put
23:12
Speaker 1: me in a room. I'll walk from one wall to
23:14
Speaker 1: the other, and I'll show you I get there. Like,
23:16
Speaker 1: stop with the nonsense, which is kind of a good thing. Like,
23:19
Speaker 1: sometimes you get into this theoretical, right? My guy, Dio.
23:26
Speaker 1: Are you guys toasting the next segment? I'm going to
23:28
Speaker 1: toast to Dio, right? Like, hey, stop with the nonsense
23:32
Speaker 1: and your stupid paradox. Stop telling me 500 years from now, maybe.
23:37
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in 500 years.
23:39
Speaker 1: Just think like Diogenes. It's real simple. The sun comes up.
23:44
Speaker 1: The rooster crows. You eat breakfast. There's a sequence to this.
23:47
Speaker 1: You're the owner. You just bought the team. You're asked
23:49
Speaker 1: about the league. You either say no or you just
23:54
Speaker 1: say no. Yeah, say no. It's pretty simple. I'm trying
24:01
Speaker 1: to think what could have been said no. Just say no.
24:03
Speaker 1: Just say no. You don't have to be a philosopher anymore.
24:07
Speaker 1: and say, well, you know, I don't want to get
24:08
Speaker 1: pinned down. 500 years from now, we wouldn't hold you
24:12
Speaker 1: to it. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: So if you're talking 500, as much money as you have,
24:19
Speaker 2: I don't think you've got that much money to afford
24:22
Speaker 2: perpetual life.
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Speaker 1: So, you know, 500 years from now, so why?
24:28
Speaker 2: I get what you're both saying. Why even say it?
24:30
Speaker 2: You just bought the team. Dick Baird's about 500 years.
24:34
Speaker 2: He's not holding them to it. So, yeah, you just
24:37
Speaker 2: proved it right there.
24:38
Speaker 1: So, anyways. Baird's part vampire, though. Everybody knew that. But
24:43
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I think you just say no.
24:47
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other ways that you could wiggle out
24:51
Speaker 1: of that without making the kind of news that he
24:53
Speaker 1: did that pissed off fans that, you know, there's a
24:57
Speaker 1: lease here, you know. You've got to know your audience.
24:59
Speaker 4: Seriously.
25:00
Speaker 1: Come on, bro. You've got to know your audience.
25:02
Speaker 3: It's a PR thing more than anything else. You just
25:04
Speaker 3: bought the team.
25:04
Speaker 5: You want your fans to be excited about having you,
25:07
Speaker 5: and you do that, and you leave any sort of
25:10
Speaker 5: ounce of question about what's going to happen.
25:12
Speaker 3: I don't know.
25:13
Speaker 1: And then you want to do it on social media.
25:15
Speaker 1: Get off social media.
25:16
Speaker 2: You're going to end up disliking the fan base. That
25:19
Speaker 2: you just bought a team for because of ten nameless
25:24
Speaker 2: cretins that hate you for buying their football team. That's
25:29
Speaker 2: not a good venture either. So, come on, Coastless.
25:32
Speaker 1: Let's go.
25:33
Speaker 2: Agreed.
25:35
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Dio. Mike Ditka. Anders, do you have any
25:40
Speaker 1: memory of Mike Ditka at all? Well, we're going to
25:43
Speaker 1: get into that next. All right.
25:46
Speaker 2: We'll close out the show with raise a pint on
25:49
Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Mike Ditka, truly iconic sports figure.
25:56
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever met a person who
26:00
Speaker 2: has the effect on a room that Mike Ditka has
26:03
Speaker 2: when he enters it. Everybody stops everything they're doing. He
26:07
Speaker 2: is bigger than life or was bigger than life when
26:10
Speaker 2: he walked into a room. And in Chicago, where I
26:13
Speaker 2: lived for exactly one year, he is beyond legendary. Mike Ditka,
26:21
Speaker 2: what a career, what a life that he led. Passed
26:24
Speaker 2: away today at the age of 86. So I raise
26:27
Speaker 2: a pint to Iron Mike Ditka.
26:30
Speaker 1: Yes. You got any memories of Iron Mike? Well, I
26:34
Speaker 1: would just say he's like a Saturday Night Live skit profile. Yeah.
26:40
Speaker 1: of a tough, hard-nosed, former tight end, Hall of Fame
26:44
Speaker 1: tight end, and then the coach. And I would just say,
26:48
Speaker 1: whether you want to give the credit to Buddy Ryan,
26:51
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, or give it to the head coach,
26:55
Speaker 1: the 85 Bears are the most intimidating team that I've
27:01
Speaker 1: ever seen play football. And, Anders, you probably heard of them. Yeah,
27:06
Speaker 1: of course. You can only watch them on YouTube. Exactly.
27:08
Speaker 1: But there was... They made grown men shake. They were
27:14
Speaker 1: incredibly intimidating. I think they had 67 sacks one year, 63.
27:21
Speaker 1: And the pressures and the style. And there was a
27:26
Speaker 1: swag like you can't believe about that team, that defense.
27:31
Speaker 2: For those of us that saw it, I mean, I
27:33
Speaker 2: still think it's the best team I've ever seen.
27:35
Speaker 1: I still think that. Yeah, and they had Walter Payton
27:38
Speaker 1: and Shane McMahon went to the Pro Bowl that year
27:40
Speaker 1: and Willie Galt. They were sufficient on offense, but that
27:43
Speaker 1: defense was– there's been no– they were– I would say
27:47
Speaker 1: the 85 Bears defense, not only was the best defense
27:50
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, whatever the best offense is that I've
27:54
Speaker 1: ever seen, that defense was a better defense than the
28:00
Speaker 1: best offense I've ever seen is. Yeah. Yeah, I got
28:02
Speaker 1: to know Doug Plank a little personally. He lives down
28:04
Speaker 1: in Arizona. He did some work with him.
28:06
Speaker 2: And there are a few things that I've enjoyed more
28:09
Speaker 2: than sitting around listening to Doug Plank tell stories about
28:12
Speaker 2: his teammates on that Chicago Bears team.
28:14
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, they're a cast of characters. All right, let's
28:16
Speaker 1: go around the room. Anders, what do you got? Let's
28:18
Speaker 1: raise a pint.
28:19
Speaker 3: I'm going to raise the pint to Christopher Kidd.
28:23
Speaker 1: Christopher Kidd?
28:24
Speaker 3: What did he do? What a fantastic human.
28:26
Speaker 1: All he did was blow the Buccaneers-Cowboys game last night.
28:28
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of that. I am playing Christopher Kidd in Fantasy.
28:33
Speaker 1: Oh!
28:35
Speaker 3: And I wanted to raise a pint to him for
28:37
Speaker 3: benching Bucky Irving last night.
28:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you did. Wow.
28:41
Speaker 2: This is supposed to be a segment of respect and honor.
28:45
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And look what you have done. He turned it
28:47
Speaker 1: into a shot segment. Yeah.
28:49
Speaker 3: Maybe he's, you know.
28:50
Speaker 1: We're raising a pint. We're not taking shots.
28:52
Speaker 5: Trying to gift me the victory this week. I don't
28:54
Speaker 5: know what's going on, but I wanted to raise a kid.
28:57
Speaker 3: Raise a kid.
28:57
Speaker 1: Raise a pint. Raise a kid. You're going to raise
28:59
Speaker 1: a kid. Hopefully. Raise a pint to Chris.
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Speaker 3: What do you say for yourself?
29:05
Speaker 6: Well, he's projected 15 points, so.
29:08
Speaker 1: You know. I'm projected.
29:10
Speaker 4: I didn't think he was going to have to play well.
29:12
Speaker 4: I got Aaron Jones. What did he end up with,
29:15
Speaker 4: like 40?
29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, 37. 35.
29:17
Speaker 6: But I have really good players. I'm not too worried.
29:20
Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.
29:20
Speaker 3: He still might beat me. Take that.
29:22
Speaker 5: At least he's opening the door a little bit for me.
29:25
Speaker 5: Because he started Javante Williams and Aaron Jones.
29:27
Speaker 1: Our first, like, stead. Sarcastic raising of a pint. Kid,
29:33
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. If my aunt would have
29:35
Speaker 1: had wheels, she'd have been a trolley car. Come on now.
29:40
Speaker 3: He was projecting.
29:43
Speaker 1: Hey, man. Dog would have caught the rabbit.
29:46
Speaker 6: Devontae has been playing really well.
29:48
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? All right, kid. Raise a pint.
29:52
Speaker 1: Who are you going to raise a pint? Are you
29:53
Speaker 1: going to fight fire with fire here? What are you
29:55
Speaker 1: going to do here?
29:56
Speaker 6: Absolutely not. I'm going to give a pint or raise
29:59
Speaker 6: a pint.
29:59
Speaker 4: I don't drink, but I'm going to raise it to
30:01
Speaker 4: Hugh Millen for putting on a phenomenal show.
30:04
Speaker 6: I heard nothing but raving things.
30:06
Speaker 4: And hopefully Hugh does it again because I know a
30:08
Speaker 4: lot of the fans, listeners, supporters of the station would
30:11
Speaker 4: only love for you to come back and do it again.
30:13
Speaker 6: So hopefully it happens in the near future.
30:17
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for that. I'll get drunk on that toast. Yes,
30:21
Speaker 1: thank you. You deserve the pint. Absolutely. I appreciate you,
30:24
Speaker 1: Chris Kidd. Good to have you back on the team,
30:26
Speaker 1: by the way. Thank you, sir.
30:29
Speaker 3: He takes the high road.
30:29
Speaker 1: We got a lot of in-house toasting here. Well, you
30:33
Speaker 1: got one more. You can raise a pint. This is
30:35
Speaker 1: your first ever raising of a pint. Do I have
30:37
Speaker 1: to say, raise a pint? Beautiful. Well done. Okay. All right. Well,
30:43
Speaker 1: you know what? How about a once beleaguered Ryan Grubb,
30:47
Speaker 1: who was the offensive coordinator of the Seahawks, then ceremoniously
30:53
Speaker 1: or unceremoniously dismissed, goes back to Alabama to– to pair with,
30:59
Speaker 1: or I should say back with Kalen DeBoer. In conference play,
31:04
Speaker 1: they have put up 45 points, then Florida State 50 points,
31:09
Speaker 1: then South Carolina 49 points, and last week set an
31:15
Speaker 1: Alabama record for most points scored against a ranked opponent
31:19
Speaker 1: on the road, 56 at Mississippi State. So they are
31:23
Speaker 1: cooking with gas down there. I know that that's a...
31:26
Speaker 1: a very polarized topic, Kalen DeBoer in these parts. So
31:31
Speaker 1: if I were to say raise a pint to Kalen DeBoer,
31:34
Speaker 1: I think I'd get half of the pints splashed in
31:37
Speaker 1: my face. I'd raise it. I'm not going to go
31:39
Speaker 1: over that route. I absolutely would raise it. But I
31:41
Speaker 1: think even those who do– I'm not a Kalen DeBoer detractor,
31:46
Speaker 1: but I think we could all kind of get behind
31:48
Speaker 1: a Ryan Grubb. That was kind of a– I don't know.
31:53
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald might say. I would say, hey, Mike McDonald
31:56
Speaker 1: ain't drinking. Get that bum out of here. But we
32:01
Speaker 1: can have two truths. Of course. It wasn't a fit
32:05
Speaker 1: for the Seattle Seahawks and Mike McDonald. And by the way,
32:07
Speaker 1: he trumps everybody. So I care a lot more about
32:11
Speaker 1: what Mike McDonald thinks than what Ryan Grubb thinks. Sure.
32:14
Speaker 1: I want to make that clear. But Ryan Greb is,
32:17
Speaker 1: you know, having a little bit of a redemption tour
32:19
Speaker 1: for now. Good for him. Yeah, and I'm happy for him, too. Now,
32:21
Speaker 1: tomorrow they're going to lose 9-0 to Georgia. Weren't we
32:26
Speaker 1: just toasting that clown?
32:29
Speaker 3: I think they win the game, by the way. I
32:31
Speaker 3: think they win that game.
32:31
Speaker 1: 9-2. 9-2. You and your timing. Yeah, right?
32:38
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be the first time. I think even Mike would
32:40
Speaker 2: be just like, oh, sure. You know, I fired him.
32:43
Speaker 2: He'd be a big enough person.
32:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, raise a pipe. Raise a pipe. I didn't dislike
32:47
Speaker 1: the guy. I just didn't like his offense. Raise a pipe.
32:52
Speaker 1: This is a small thing. Right. Offensive coordinator doesn't know offense.
32:56
Speaker 1: Raise a pipe. I liked his knickers, but I didn't
33:01
Speaker 1: run the offense with it. Well, thank you, sir.
33:06
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff. Great hanging out with you. Great doing the
33:09
Speaker 2: evening with you last night.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thank you so much. And some extended Hugh
33:13
Speaker 1: Millen time here on the show. And love the team.
33:15
Speaker 1: Love you guys pairing. Thank you. Appreciate it. You guys
33:17
Speaker 1: are off and rolling, so good luck with that. I
33:20
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a colossal hit. All right. Well,
33:23
Speaker 1: thank you. Appreciate it. All right, we'll talk to you
33:26
Speaker 1: on Monday morning. And more Hugh Millen. More Hugh Millen.
33:29
Speaker 1: On Monday morning as well. Big game to react to.
33:31
Speaker 1: Let's talk about winning. No yards go Hawks. Yeah. Greg
33:34
Speaker 1: Bell's next. Jessamyn McIntyre, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.