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Drive Thru News #8 - Welcome to Season 2! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Hello and welcome to The Drive Thru, March edition.
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  As you all know, The Drive Thru is our monthly recap episode where we
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  put together a menu of automotive, motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  For this particular episode to kick off season two, we've got a new segment where
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  we're going to bring on a couple new guests that are going to rotate through.
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  With us tonight is special guest host Thomas Wendy.
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  He's the region chief for region one.
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  Region one.
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  Welcome Thomas.
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  How's it going?
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  Pull up to window number one for some industry.
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  This, the first article that came up is, you know, it's a very big one
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  with all the, the different movements and everything that are going on in
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  political correctness and all this stuff.
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  This is very poignant right now.
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  The chief of the Cherokee Nation has asked that Jeep stop using the name
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  Cherokee when they name their vehicles.
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  This is a big thing because Jeep has been naming the Cherokees vehicle,
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  SUV since 1974, I believe it was.
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  It's not the first time they've made this request.
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  Is that right?
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  I believe that's correct.
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  Tanya.
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  They've petitioned for Jeep to remove the Cherokee name from
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  the Jeeps several times already.
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  And now it's come up yet again.
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  I thought it was kind of interesting when I first read this.
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  I had to dig into this a little bit more because I was unaware that
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  they had asked for this before.
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  And I can understand why I kind of thought it came at an interesting
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  time, you Stellantis merger.
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  Now, you know, being the 4th largest auto manufacturer in the world.
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  It's like.
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  Mhm.
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  Do they suddenly have a target on their back?
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  So I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole, but I do agree with their sentiment.
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  I just am now left with, especially being a grand Cherokee owner.
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  What are they going to call it?
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  What's it going to become?
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  Because the Cherokee has been a staple in the Jeep lineup for 40 plus years now.
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  The Commander, I think, seems to be the most relevant name
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  that they could go back to.
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  Jumping over into a different realm as well, military helicopters, like, are
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  those gonna be next in line as well?
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  All the helicopters are after the different tribe names as well,
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  so you've got the Blackhawks, the Apaches, the, uh, Comanches.
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  It goes on and on, like, that's just the list that they used.
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  For naming all that, but just another thing
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  I could see that.
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  I mean, I also thought to myself, you know, if they work out something
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  where maybe they have to pay some sort of licensing fee to the
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  charities or something, exactly to keep the name, then I'm okay with it.
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  If they decide they're going to abandon the name, I almost said
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  to myself, I'm busting out the dental floss and I'm taking the
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  Cherokee off the side of my Jeep.
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  Other than on the sides, there is no other label on the Jeeps as of 2013.
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  forward.
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  So it's very easy to just remove it from the vehicle.
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  But by saying that you're making it seem like this request is kind of
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  a money grab and not really about the pride of the Cherokee Nation.
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  Cause if you could just stroke a check for a certain dollar amount
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  and then, Oh yeah, now it's okay.
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  Now it's okay.
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  Now it doesn't hurt our pride because you gave us like 10.
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  15 million.
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  That doesn't sit well with me.
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  I am more understanding of it being about the Cherokee nation's pride.
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  Same with the Redskins and the Florida state Seminoles and the Cleveland Indians
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  and like all these other organizations that are being asked these same requests.
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  I don't think it's about the money.
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  At least I hope it's not about like money.
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  It's not a, they're not looking for a settlement.
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  Yeah.
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  The statement
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  that was made earlier, I don't think this has anything to
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  do with any merger or with.
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  Fiat and all that in Stellantis.
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  It's coincidentally occurring, but it has something to do with that.
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  That's not what's driving it.
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  There's no target on Stellantis back.
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  It does definitely open the door and set a precedent.
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  I couldn't think of any other vehicles that were named after
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  Indian tribes of any kind.
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  I mean, it definitely resonates with me being an owner of a.
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  Vehicle with this name on it.
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  So I don't, I'm still kind of mixed about how I feel about it, but I'm
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  really interested to see where the dust settles on this whole conversation.
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  So it's definitely politically charged depending on how you feel about it,
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  but I'm still very curious to see where this goes, but there's a lot
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  more news with respect to Stellantis.
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  Let's call it that rather than Fiat Chrysler and all that.
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  This whole first segment should just be the Stellantis segment.
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  Shouldn't it though?
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  That's what it's looking like to me, the Stellantis segment, at least
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  for the first, like four articles that we're going to talk about here,
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  the next one up on the list got me really excited, which was the talks about the
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  return of Peugeot and Peugeot setting up their dealer networks and all that kind
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  of stuff, obviously riding on top of the Chrysler network that's already here.
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  And I'm like, yes, finally some hot hatchbacks, some French cars, right.
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  Something interesting for a change.
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  And that got canned.
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  Stellantis has decided that they are going to double down on Alfa Romeo.
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  So I am still holding out hope for the rear wheel drive GTA hatchback
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  that they teased two years ago at Salins that's in the TCR series.
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  You know, if I can't get my Peugeot 205 or whatever, at least maybe I can
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  get an Alfa Romeo hatchback instead.
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  So crossing my fingers, we'll see where that goes.
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  You know, going back to Jeep, there's the Jeep Magneto electric Wrangler concept
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  that was just teased earlier this week.
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  Isn't that an X Men character?
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  Uh, it is, it is, it is actually.
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  They, they, they pay homage to the X Men character.
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  Actually they don't.
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  It's just, it's just a weird name, I guess.
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  But it's got an electric motor with a 273 foot pounds of torque, 285 horsepower,
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  which I believe the current Pentastar also has 285 horsepower or thereabouts.
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  So not too much different there.
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  The big thing is it's this concept vehicle, which is electric came out with
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  a manual transmission, and some of you might be scratching your heads as to why
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  would it have a manual transmission is isn't the first time this has happened.
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  This also came out when Ford did a concept vehicle.
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  I think last year or 2 years ago.
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  They had a Mustang with a manual transmission as well.
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  So it's not unheard of.
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  It doesn't make any sense to me.
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  I haven't studied the science or the engineering behind how it would work.
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  It's interesting.
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  Nonetheless, it's based on the newest Jeep Wrangler Rubicon that came out.
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  It's kind of cool.
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  I'm all for the EV revolution, at least in concept form.
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  I'm not ready for it to take over.
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  You know, our daily drivers or anything like that, especially not our track
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  cars, but I think it's interesting.
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  I think it's kind of cool.
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  It looks cool.
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  So a couple of things I had an issue with this particular article, other
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  than you're right, it does look cool.
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  Even the specs still are written like a gas motor, maybe to just.
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  I guess adapt people or ingratiate people to the whole concept, especially
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  the jeeping community, horsepower and torque out of an electric motor.
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  Shouldn't we be talking about power output and torque?
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  Basically what horsepower, like what are we talking about here?
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  I've had a theory for a while now, and we talked about this a few times
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  about the physical layout of some of these hybrids and electric cars.
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  I still think.
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  That they're having issues packing a hybrid platform or even an electric
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  platform into a traditional front mount rear drive configuration, right?
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  A lot of hybrids.
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  A lot of electrics are either positioned rear rear front front.
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  Or even in the case of hybrids, the front wheel drive transverse, I think
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  there's an issue somewhere in there with the transmissions and the transfer
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  cases and all that stuff that they want to do where I think it makes sense.
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  In this case, they had to go to manual because it was the only way to give
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  the Wrangler this off road capability with an electric motor attached to it.
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  Now, I'm theorizing here.
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  I'm speculating, but I have a strong suspicion.
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  There's some sort of mechanical engineering.
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  Challenge that they haven't been able to overcome yet with a proper, you
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  know, electric drive train, like we're, like, we're used to talking about.
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  That very well could be, I know the higher end, more exotic manufacturers
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  are putting the motors at the wheels, the smaller electric motor units at the
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  wheels, but you can't really do that with a Wrangler, especially if people
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  are going to be forwarding water and stuff like that, a Creek, let's, let's
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  be honest, 40, a Creek, not a river.
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  And all of a sudden, you know, the insulation or something, water starts
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  getting into the battery or the motor or something, and then you're.
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  But let's take it from the perspective.
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  You know, we talked to drew on the off roading episode this previous month
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  about the other electric offering that was coming out in partnership with GM
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  the Rivian.
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  Yes.
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  The Rivian.
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  If you think about it, that was 1 of those, you know, electric motors,
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  almost at every corner of the vehicle and all that kind of stuff.
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  But.
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  What we didn't talk about in that episode was how's it going to hold up?
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  It's a really cool idea.
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  But if you look at, you know, I got a Dana 44, I got a Dana 60, and I want to go
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  off road and I want to put, you know, 44 inch tires and all the stuff that Jeepers
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  do to Jeeps, that typical EV layout.
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  I don't think it's going to hold up.
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  It's not going to work.
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  It really.
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  Is it strong enough?
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  It can make the power, but I don't think it can hold up in
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  those rugged off road conditions.
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  So this is really cool in the sense that they're trying to figure
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  out the formula for that classic front mount rear drive config.
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  But I think the reason is they need to stick with that tried and true
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  layout because there's no other way to go off roading properly.
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  Let's, let's put it that way.
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  And I don't
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  know that they, Rivian, has been advertising that they're
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  trying to be off roaders.
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  They're trying to be like a Land Rover, bougie, pretending like you're gonna
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  go overlanding, but really you're just driving down to the grocery store.
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  They call that mall crawling.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, fine.
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  You might go on a dirt path somewhere on some snow, but they're not
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  actually trying to go rock crawl.
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  I don't think they've advertised that way.
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  No, I doubt that they would have built for that.
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  Yeah.
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  So this might be the first proper EV off roader if we really kind of boil it down.
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  Right.
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  I mean, I'm sure there's some other more boutique entries, but from a
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  mainline producer like Chrysler, this is Probably the first of its
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  kind out of anybody at this point.
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  I'm pretty sure it's confirmed the Jeep is going to be coming out
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  with at least a hybrid wrangler.
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  Uh, I thought I heard, I heard there was a
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  hybrid Cherokee coming too, or whatever it's gonna be called next.
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  The
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  high Yes.
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  Is the hybrid smaller mid-size.
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  SUV, that to be named later,
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  . Well, what is the Hummer supposed to be capable of doing?
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  Because based on some of its.
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  Little videos and photos.
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  It's
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  doing
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  a little bit more extreme things then.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, that's really
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  kind of supposed to be doing a lot of the generic off road stuff.
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  I mean, I know just from times that I've heard, like people sometimes
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  make fun of the guys that roll up in the homers thing and they'll get
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  through everything and then they can't.
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  But when you think of Homer, you're thinking of pretty heavy duty.
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  I haven't heard how they've been faring, but I believe they allegedly have
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  designed for a bit more rugged use.
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  Maybe to Eric's point earlier that, you know, they're, they're sticking
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  with the Jeep layout of the, I guess, the, the rear, the solid axles and the.
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  The suspension setup and everything, the front engine rear wheel drive or
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  four by four, maybe because that is the best setup that's of it that has
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  come out thus far, but maybe it's not necessarily the best setup ever.
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  It's been that setup for so long that it's been perfected much like the Porsche 911.
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  They've been developing that rear wheel drive.
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  You know, rear engine set up for what, 60 years.
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  How's the 60 years 1964.
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  Yeah,
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  it's a terrible design.
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  And if you think about physics, it should not work as well as it does,
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  but it does because they've figured out how to make it work and it
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  could be the same thing with this.
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  Maybe just, this is the best setup for now, but it's not
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  the best setup moving forward.
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  And like to Tanya's point, the Hummer, yeah, it is designed
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  to be very off road capable.
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  Well, the problem is the article says that it's based off the 2020 Rubicon.
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  So if you're basing it off a gasoline powered vehicle, most of the
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  manufacturers, all their EVs are being, you know, they started out trying to,
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  you know, just take the platform they already had and retrofit and all that.
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  More and more of them are all realizing that they just have to
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  start from the ground up with a whole new chassis design to support EVs.
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  It's not gonna be the same.
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  So this is a concept.
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  So who knows if they keep going down the path of a, of a Wrangler ev,
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  they might decide that they scrap it and start from a whole new platform.
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  But if that's the case, I think that's the death knell of the Wrangler at
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  that point, because what you will have after that is no longer a Wrangler.
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  To Brad's point, I think there's a formula that says this is what it is.
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  This is what you expect to get.
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  The performance you expect to get out of it, especially as an off road vehicle.
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  So I applaud them for trying.
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  I want to say Where this goes, I'm really, really curious because I think if this
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  works, and especially with the manual and all that, that they're suggesting here,
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  then that means there's hope for the grand Cherokee and the Cherokee as well,
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  whatever it's going to be called in the future as well, because that's a similar
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  layout and they can then translate this formula to that and then have an EV based,
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  you know, mid sized SUV to be named later.
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  What else is going on at Chrysler there, Brad, as we
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  transition away from off roading?
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  Well, Dodge has decided to take the law into their own hands.
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  And they've come up with a solution to prevent people from stealing cars,
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  protecting their car owners, mainly the charger and, uh, challenger
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  owners of the higher models, the SRTs and Hellcats and stuff like that
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  from the B having their car stolen.
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  And basically they've created a software update.
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  So here's where I'm a little fuzzy on the details from the article, but
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  basically there's a four digit code that's either prevents or puts the car
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  into a limp mode, essentially three horsepower, 22 something like that.
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  Uh, basically it puts the car in limp mode, no high speed getaways.
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  If you're trying to steal a Dodge charger or challenger, unless
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  you have the four digit code.
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  Okay.
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  Two things.
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  First of all, Chrysler, have you heard of Lojack?
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  Second of all, have you seen the movie Mad Max?
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  This
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  is Slow Jack.
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  Yeah, right?
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  But do you remember, like, in Mad Max, he had the little keypad, like, hidden under
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  the fender or wherever it was, and he had, like, he could start the car because
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  he didn't want anybody to steal it, you know, and his gasoline and all that mess?
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  Like, this is the same thing, but I really feel this is a
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  day late and a dollar short.
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  I feel it's a gimmick.
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  I mean, Ford has the same keypad technology on their doors.
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  Where I was confused like you was whether I needed to put the code in
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  to put it into the mode or to keep it out of the mode.
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  Correct.
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  It's like it's exactly.
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  No, you're absolutely correct.
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  I didn't understand one way or the other.
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  I was like, what are we doing here?
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  Like, I can see this is a valet key, like, this is, this is
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  their version of a valet key.
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  Well, so they already do have the valet key though, because like when
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  the Hellcats first came out, there were videos coming out on YouTube
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  of these pissed off valet workers.
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  They're like, Oh man, this is so awesome.
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  I'm going to drive a Hellcat.
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  I'm just going to go up and down the street here.
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  And then they were all upset because they were given the valet key and they
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  like, Could barely even drive the thing.
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  That's awesome.
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  As, as a person who hopes to someday own a Hellcat, I am thankful for that.
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  Not that I valet park a car very often because I'm not that bougie, but I don't
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  want some like 20 year old snot nose kid getting in my car and doing burnouts
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  and stuff in the valet parking garage.
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  Yeah.
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  But just go off to his friends.
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  But just think Brad, he could leave it on Liquid Metal or
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  some other channel, you know.
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  He's welcome to do that.
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  This, this code does not prevent you from setting my SiriusXM stations.
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  Is there really a rash of just challenger and charger thefts
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  going on that we don't know about?
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  Well, I, I think so.
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  I mean, I know like
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  not as many as the Honda Accord.
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  I was going to say like, yeah,
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  the Hondas and the Camry is like right behind him.
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  Right.
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  I don't get it.
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  I just don't, I just don't see the appeal of stealing a Challenger
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  or a Charger, but whatever.
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  But
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  the three horsepower limit on those Hondas wouldn't affect anything.
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  VTEC yo.
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  But if you limit the torque though,
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  the most interesting tidbit from this is the.
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  The fact that to get to the 22 foot pounds, they just limit the red line
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  to 675 RPM, not 6, 750 RPM, 675 RPM.
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  But you know, what's cool about that?
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  The Hemi makes 22 foot pounds.
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  At 600 RPM, think about that.
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  That's actually kind of cool.
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  So when you're looking at that torque graph and those numbers, I mean,
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  that's, that's impressive actually.
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  And still better than anything French from the 1960s.
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  So there you go.
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  So the way I'm looking at a different article, the way it says is you create a
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  four digit code that you have to enter in order to have the car be in normal mode.
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  Oh, that's terrible.
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  Cause it says the way it works is that the owner sets a four digit
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  code in the infotainment system.
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  This code must be entered before driving away to access the car's
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  normal horsepower settings.
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  If it isn't because of thief spoofed the key or stole the key, the engine computer
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  won't let the engine rev past 675 RPMs.
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  So does this become like my iPhone where if I don't put my pass code
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  in right three times, then my car is Bricked for 20 minutes.
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  So they have a demon.
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  Why didn't they set the RPM limit to 6, 6,
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  6?
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  Because they had to get to that precious 2.
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  8 horsepower.
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  This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they're all running around trying
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  to get access to each other's ATM cards.
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  And nobody wants to give out their pen numbers.
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  Apparently it's a free installation.
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  So what's the gimmick?
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  They're not trying to make money.
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  They're offering it to you for free.
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  So what I understand from that though is, is if I put my, I have to put my
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  pen in every time I drive the car.
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  So it's in limp, it's in limp mode by default.
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  When you first turn it on.
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  Well, no, I guess you wouldn't necessarily, I don't know.
• 18:11
  You wouldn't necessarily have to quote crank it all the way for
• 18:14
  the accessory position to turn the infotainment system on, I guess.
• 18:18
  So like the Apple iPhones, are they going to next come out with the fingerprint key?
• 18:23
  So like, if it's not your fingerprint on the key, it stays in limp mode.
• 18:26
  It's a, it's in the swells of the steering wheel.
• 18:28
  You have to put your thoughts.
• 18:30
  You have to hold the
• 18:30
  steering wheel at all times.
• 18:32
  Yeah.
• 18:33
  Then you're going to have all these forensic thieves that are
• 18:35
  going around with, you know, powder with the powder fingerprints.
• 18:39
  Comes an episode of Dexter, challengers and chargers.
• 18:43
  Instead of stealing your challenger first, they steal your coffee mug.
• 18:46
  So I was going to say it also brings up another thing that's going to really suck
• 18:49
  for you if you Have actually put it in to use this and then your infotainment
• 18:54
  system breaks Yeah, because how are you gonna put it back into regular mode then
• 18:58
  because if we know anything about chrysler electronics
• 19:02
  And they said 2015 So i'm just like if it was me i'd skip this update
• 19:08
  and you're out of warranty at this point Just don't worry about it.
• 19:11
  All right So speaking of bright ideas
• 19:13
  So there was an article earlier about Porsche unveiling that they're working
• 19:17
  on a synthetic fuel that will basically have electric vehicle level emissions,
• 19:23
  obviously, and basically just trying to make cleaner fuel for the ice engines.
• 19:29
  Obviously, they're still under development with this.
• 19:32
  They're not too forthcoming with exactly how the process is going down and whatnot,
• 19:37
  but they do mention that the e fuels will be made out of CO2 and hydrogen and
• 19:41
  will be produced using renewable energy.
• 19:44
  So those are all good things.
• 19:45
  I mean, this is not new, the ability to make longer chain
• 19:50
  hydrocarbon molecules, such as.
• 19:52
  Gasoline from something like CO2, hydrogen, or even
• 19:55
  just starting with methane.
• 19:56
  Cause basically they're going to create methane from the CO2 and hydrogen.
• 20:00
  It's great.
• 20:00
  I mean, yes.
• 20:01
  Will it, in terms of running a car powered on this e fuel versus
• 20:05
  running a car powered by batteries, will it be cleaner than the EV?
• 20:12
  I'm not convinced.
• 20:14
  Will it be cleaner than traditional ice?
• 20:17
  That's a good question.
• 20:18
  Yes, because they will be able to get rid of sulfur and nitrogen that
• 20:22
  are naturally occurring when you're making gasoline from crude oil.
• 20:25
  So you won't get your SOx and your NOx.
• 20:27
  So you won't get all the smog.
• 20:29
  That part of pollution will be solved.
• 20:31
  But the piece that I'm not sold on is whenever you combust something.
• 20:36
  CO2 is a byproduct.
• 20:38
  Batteries aren't generating CO2, right?
• 20:41
  So I think it's great.
• 20:43
  I think it's positive.
• 20:44
  I don't know that the whole story is fully articulated yet.
• 20:47
  I mean, depending on the manufacturing process and how
• 20:50
  much energy intensive that is.
• 20:53
  They do say using renewable energy, you know, there's still going to possibly
• 20:56
  be a footprint, carbon footprint with that manufacturing process.
• 21:01
  So again, it goes back to what's the whole lifecycle analysis on this.
• 21:04
  I don't know yet without more information, how does it pan out versus, you
• 21:08
  know, the traditional way of making gasoline, it might still be better.
• 21:11
  And anything that's better is.
• 21:13
  It's good to help the environment one for one apples to apples versus battery.
• 21:19
  I mean, without seeing the full life cycle analysis, I'm not sure how they're
• 21:22
  saying that there is zero emissions, like an EV because combustion is combustion,
• 21:26
  which is still gonna have its byproducts.
• 21:29
  The thing that stuck out to me is there's a line in the article that
• 21:34
  says this will be the same level of CO2 produced in the manufacturer and use.
• 21:40
  Of an electric vehicle.
• 21:41
  Now, isn't that like the big debate, like the whole manufacturing process of EVs?
• 21:46
  is worse than the life cycle of an ICE motor?
• 21:51
  I mean, isn't that one of the debates or one of the arguments against EVs?
• 21:54
  So that's tricky because it really comes down to if you're a coal
• 22:00
  based in your life cycle, then yes, you are likely probably worse.
• 22:04
  Versus coal based, you know, making gasoline, but you're
• 22:08
  using cleaner energies to do the life cycle for the, for the EVs.
• 22:12
  You're actually probably better than in the gasoline.
• 22:15
  So it really comes down to what's your initial energy source, right?
• 22:19
  There's context that needs to be added to the conversation that's usually omitted.
• 22:22
  So you can't really make the blanket statements.
• 22:26
  And then they usually say that about like the whole mining for precious
• 22:29
  metals and stuff to, to make the batteries and things like that too.
• 22:32
  They, they try to throw all of those things into the argument against EVs to
• 22:36
  make EVs seem like they're the devil or where they're, they're worse than ice.
• 22:41
  You can justify anything if you explain it enough
• 22:44
  to your point, Brad, about the precious metals.
• 22:46
  That argument holds water on the ice side of the house, too, because
• 22:49
  you have to mind precious metals to develop catalytic converters, right?
• 22:53
  There's all sorts of materials inside of those.
• 22:55
  So I don't think that's a winning argument on either side because the number of.
• 22:59
  Catalytics, especially vehicles now where you've got two, sometimes four
• 23:04
  catalytic converters on vehicles, right.
• 23:06
  To suppress a lot of that kind of stuff.
• 23:08
  So I think it all kind of comes out in the wash at the end of the day
• 23:11
  with respect to that kind of stuff.
• 23:13
  Well, the problem with the way life cycle analysis often done
• 23:16
  is where your fence lines, i.
• 23:18
  e.
• 23:18
  your boundaries for how you're doing your analysis, how they're set can greatly
• 23:23
  change the answer that you're getting.
• 23:25
  Right.
• 23:25
  And so, I mean, I haven't really seen enough.
• 23:29
  Of the data to say one way or the other I have seen something saying
• 23:32
  it really it comes down to You know what you're saying your base energy
• 23:36
  sources and if you're trying to use coal to make the the ebs you're you're
• 23:40
  not winning I mean good on them.
• 23:43
  Um Hopefully they've maybe cracked the code to make it or because there
• 23:47
  is a shift the way using more natural gases You know initial power source
• 23:52
  into manufacturing and whatnot.
• 23:53
  That's a cheaper source You Cleaner also, you know, maybe that's
• 23:58
  making this more advantageous, more economical to do, right?
• 24:01
  Because this is not new technology.
• 24:03
  This technology, this process dates back to, you know, world war one or two.
• 24:08
  I don't remember which one right now.
• 24:10
  Um, so it's been around, but when things aren't economically favorable
• 24:14
  to do, you don't do them, right?
• 24:15
  So who's going to be first in line to put this new fuel, uh, into their
• 24:21
  race cars, into their track cars,
• 24:23
  The people that can afford it, they can go to the dealership and buy it at 1.
• 24:27
  75 liters at a time at, you know, some ridiculous markup, because where are you
• 24:32
  going to buy this Porsche special fuel?
• 24:35
  And can I put it in my car?
• 24:36
  Yeah.
• 24:36
  There's a lot of
• 24:38
  this Porsche, this Porsche special fuel or SRF.
• 24:40
  No, it'll go in any car.
• 24:42
  I don't, I don't see that being a problem.
• 24:43
  I don't see it.
• 24:44
  It's not going to be Porsche specific.
• 24:47
  It's gasoline.
• 24:48
  At the end of the day, they're creating the gasoline chain.
• 24:51
  So if your car runs on gasoline,
• 24:53
  the question is, is there going to be a special pump at sheets that says
• 24:57
  Porsche fuel, like with their logo on it?
• 24:59
  Like I, you know, Maybe it's in partnership with golf,
• 25:02
  like in the old days, right?
• 25:03
  Golf and Porsche.
• 25:04
  I mean, it's a good question.
• 25:05
  How are you bringing this to a fuel station?
• 25:08
  Where is it going to be available?
• 25:10
  You know, you could, it's Porsche, so one could argue that it'll
• 25:14
  be available in Germany first.
• 25:16
  And maybe only Germany, which oil refiner are they working with?
• 25:19
  And that brings up my next question.
• 25:22
  Are they using Bosch for the electronics?
• 25:24
  I think there's a better question than that, Brad, much like biofuel.
• 25:28
  When you burn this Porsche fuel, does it smell like sauerkraut?
• 25:31
  And when Ferrari comes up with their fuel, does it smell like marinara sauce?
• 25:35
  It smells like
• 25:36
  Axe body spray and desperation.
• 25:39
  Well, it won't have sulfur and nitrogen in it, so it'd smell better from that.
• 25:44
  So speaking of Porsche, we brought it up in previous episodes of the
• 25:49
  drive thru where they took a vested interest in Rimac, which if you
• 25:55
  guys remember, you've probably heard that name before because that's the
• 25:58
  EV that Richard Hammond wrecked.
• 26:00
  During an episode of the grand tour on a twisty road.
• 26:03
  So Porsche, back when we talked about this the first time, they had just
• 26:07
  invested 15 percent stock of Rimac, right?
• 26:12
  And now they have just upped that number to 25%.
• 26:15
  So they have a quarter control of Rimac right now.
• 26:17
  So I have a feeling that that's going to continue to climb.
• 26:20
  You're going to continue to see them using Rimac and working together to
• 26:23
  advance the technology that they're using.
• 26:25
  And we're probably going to end up seeing that in the
• 26:27
  Taycan and a lot of other cars.
• 26:29
  Speaking of the Taycan, I just recently watched a video on Garage Riot of the
• 26:33
  world's fastest C8 Corvette, and the hood managed to stay down during the
• 26:38
  whole thing, in a drag race against a Taycan Turbo S, or whatever they call it.
• 26:43
  It's
• 26:43
  Taycan also, sorry.
• 26:45
  Sure.
• 26:45
  Touareg, Touareg, it's all the same.
• 26:49
  So at any rate, I thought that was a little bit of fun by, you know, the
• 26:54
  Hoonigan guys or whatever, they were putting it on, but in reality, as you
• 26:57
  guys are going to hear in a future episode about drag racing, you know,
• 27:00
  they gave them kick at the start.
• 27:02
  They give them a bunch of other stuff.
• 27:03
  And I was like, is this really fair?
• 27:05
  You know, why are we talking about a hugely modified Corvette that makes
• 27:08
  like almost 2000 horsepower against a stock electric car, but that's
• 27:13
  not really what got my interest.
• 27:14
  It was another video.
• 27:16
  On the same social network where I saw an EV retrofitted into a 935.
• 27:24
  And this was being developed out in California.
• 27:26
  There's a lot of companies out there right now that are retrofitting
• 27:29
  Tesla power plants and other types of EV power plants into old Porsches.
• 27:34
  The formula makes a lot of sense to your point, Brad.
• 27:36
  They've been perfecting that rear mounted rear wheel drive for a lot of years now.
• 27:41
  And a lot of those things Tesla two wheel drives are the same layout,
• 27:45
  so it makes sense to retrofit the EV pack into an old 9 11 or 3 56
• 27:49
  or a beetle or whatever have you.
• 27:51
  And this 9 35, when you guys check out this video and it's in the
• 27:54
  show notes, it is pretty wild.
• 27:57
  And they said the power to weight ratio is so much better than what the ice set up
• 28:02
  because the car was light to begin with.
• 28:03
  And now you're taking away all the weight of that flat six and
• 28:07
  giving it almost equivalent power.
• 28:09
  It is just.
• 28:11
  rocket ship.
• 28:12
  And so very cool to see, very cool to see that, you know, old cars
• 28:15
  like that will continue to live on with some of this new technology.
• 28:18
  And a little, uh, Easter egg from this video.
• 28:21
  I don't know if you know who BC Moto are, but they're the ones who developed
• 28:25
  the manual transmission, twin turbo Honda Odyssey with like 900 horsepower.
• 28:28
  They do a lot of unconventional things, but it always looks like high quality,
• 28:32
  well engineered and well done work.
• 28:35
  Yeah.
• 28:35
  That was the only disappointing part about the video was they
• 28:38
  didn't actually open the hood.
• 28:40
  Or I guess the trunk to show us what it looked like, you
• 28:44
  know, in the engine compartment.
• 28:45
  It was all pretty kept hush hush.
• 28:47
  A lot of the video was done from inside the car.
• 28:50
  The sound I will say is nothing like a flat six.
• 28:55
  That's one thing I would have a hard time getting over is driving an old 9
• 28:59
  11 that sounds like like a wind up toy.
• 29:01
  Kind of a tough pill to swallow, but overall I thought it was pretty cool.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:05
  So earlier this month, Tesla had their battery day, similar to Tesla Volkswagen
• 29:11
  had power day as they called it.
• 29:13
  So it was a bit of press release on all the great things they plan on doing,
• 29:17
  you know, in terms of, you know, their EV revolution, this, that, and the
• 29:20
  other, you know, they didn't have huge announcements, I guess, on the scale
• 29:24
  of what Tesla did, but it had a couple interesting things that came out of that.
• 29:29
  They did talk about.
• 29:30
  A plan for, you know, having six battery gigafactories, which the
• 29:36
  eventual production capacity would be equivalent to four million of their pro
• 29:41
  performance version of their ID threes.
• 29:44
  Not that I don't think we're getting the IDC on this side, but.
• 29:47
  Still, they also are announced something they're calling a unified cell
• 29:52
  technology planning to launch in 2023.
• 29:55
  By 2030, then they would be using this new cell that would allow them to reduce
• 30:00
  the battery cost on most other entry level cars anywhere, I think up to like 50%.
• 30:06
  So that's pretty significant since they're saying basically the cost of
• 30:09
  the batteries is, you know, like a third of the cost of the car itself.
• 30:12
  So if they're able to reduce that, that's pretty significant.
• 30:15
  And they had some other announcements, one of which there was also an article
• 30:19
  today, I think this morning highlighting this as well as they have a partnership
• 30:23
  with BP, so British petroleum, major oil refiners, they're partnering with them
• 30:28
  to basically create charging stations at BP stations, brilliant, because You're
• 30:34
  not, you know, creating some station somewhere where someone is not familiar.
• 30:38
  You're trying to bring the EV compatibility of charging to spots
• 30:42
  that people are familiar with.
• 30:43
  So I mean, I think that makes a lot of sense.
• 30:45
  So good on them to partner up with that instead of just building
• 30:49
  random stations in places.
• 30:51
  I don't know how well that'll work.
• 30:53
  It sounded like they would be tied in with existing petrol stations.
• 30:57
  So if that is the case, I don't know, you know, how well that'll work.
• 31:01
  Cause there's a lot of undergrounds that go in with.
• 31:03
  With the petrol stations for storing the fuel and whatnot.
• 31:06
  So it makes me wonder if the European fueling stations are operated differently
• 31:12
  than those in the United States.
• 31:14
  I'm not familiar, so if anybody's listening out there, you know, please
• 31:16
  comment, you know, here in the States, most gas stations, most power stations,
• 31:20
  Fueling stations are franchises, they're buying the fuel from the distributor, be
• 31:24
  it Exxon, be it BP, be it Shell, whoever.
• 31:26
  And they have to run the name on the side of the building, much like
• 31:29
  if you own a McDonald's, you're getting the supplies from them and
• 31:32
  then you're delivering the service.
• 31:34
  So here, I'm wondering how would that work to put in the electric and
• 31:38
  all that is the gas station owner.
• 31:40
  On the hook for that, for that cost, is it going to be provided by BP as an
• 31:44
  example, you know, things like that.
• 31:46
  So I just kind of wonder how all that's going to work unless,
• 31:48
  you know, maybe overseas the gas stations are maybe controlled by
• 31:52
  the state or or something like that.
• 31:54
  Right?
• 31:54
  So I'm speculating, but I'm just wondering, like, it seems like it's going
• 31:58
  to be easy, but on the same token, like, why is it so easy to do that sort of?
• 32:02
  You know, conversion.
• 32:03
  I mean, I don't, I don't know how done in, in Europe or in Asia or other
• 32:07
  places, the world here, the gas stations used to be owned by the oil refiner.
• 32:12
  So it said Exxon or mobile, it was, you know, controlled and
• 32:16
  managed by Exxon or mobile.
• 32:17
  That's not really the case anymore.
• 32:19
  Like you said, yes, there are independent owners that can set the prices.
• 32:23
  on the fuel station.
• 32:24
  So when people blame, oh, man, the price of the fuel, the guy
• 32:29
  that owns the place might have added a few extra cents on there.
• 32:32
  So let's make sure we know who we're getting upset with.
• 32:35
  Um, but yes, exactly.
• 32:36
  They basically pay whatever their branding There's no control from the,
• 32:42
  the major oil refiner of that station.
• 32:45
  I don't know in Europe, maybe it's different.
• 32:46
  Maybe they still, maybe BP still controls their stations.
• 32:50
  I don't know.
• 32:51
  We'll see.
• 32:51
  We'll see how it works here.
• 32:52
  I mean, maybe in the U S they changed their model a little bit.
• 32:56
  Maybe the control.
• 32:57
  Shifts again, maybe there's part ownership that goes back in or something.
• 33:02
  I don't know, or maybe here, we're just going to say, screw it.
• 33:04
  We're going to just build whole new stations alongside, or maybe they'll
• 33:07
  close some fuel stations and then just completely from the ground
• 33:11
  up, rebuild them to be just EV.
• 33:13
  If they're seeing demand go down, you don't need these stations.
• 33:16
  It's just kind of like the phase in of everything.
• 33:19
  And I know it's kind of been discussed previous episodes and everything as well.
• 33:22
  Yeah, we're obviously not going to see anything overnight.
• 33:25
  The initial rollout is most likely going to be horrendous in a lot of the, the
• 33:30
  situations, but it is something that is coming and it's, it's just going to
• 33:34
  be a matter of how that actually ends up rolling, even with the Porsche fuel.
• 33:38
  That's another one rolled in with it as well.
• 33:40
  It's all about the logistic side of it.
• 33:42
  Luckily, because we have done it before, like, a lot of things
• 33:46
  are going to get figured out.
• 33:47
  But, yes, you're going to have to tear down a lot of things in order to
• 33:50
  make room for the new infrastructure.
• 33:52
  I mean, just look at any major city or anything, too.
• 33:55
  You start tearing down the old stuff to build the new.
• 33:58
  And it comes along, it comes better.
• 34:01
  We're just going to have to see gradually go through as it comes, so.
• 34:05
  Now, what I thought was interesting from the power day discussion, and it's
• 34:09
  still something that's on the table.
• 34:10
  And I know they're doing this.
• 34:11
  We talked about it before they're doing this in formula E where they went
• 34:16
  to the hot swappable battery packs.
• 34:18
  I want to see it go in that direction, honestly, because the build quality
• 34:22
  on cars has gotten so much better.
• 34:24
  If you look at a 20 year old car today versus a 20 year old
• 34:28
  car, when we were first started driving, the build quality is.
• 34:31
  if not 10, 000 times better.
• 34:33
  So let's say I buy a car today in 2020, that's an EV.
• 34:37
  Wouldn't it be cool that 10 years from now, I have the ability to drop
• 34:40
  the batteries out of it, put new ones in and go another 10 years.
• 34:43
  You know, because in this case, I don't have all those moving parts,
• 34:46
  all those liquids, all that stuff that, that an ice motor would have.
• 34:50
  Yeah, maybe I need, you know, brakes, rotors, wheel bearings, all the common
• 34:53
  suspension parts, but if I kept my car in good shape and I, you know, and it
• 34:57
  wasn't abused, then it would, it would almost last, let's say forever, it's
• 35:01
  interesting to see where that's going to go, maybe 10 years down the road from now.
• 35:05
  Top gear episode to that point as well, where they were testing
• 35:10
  in a very small limited market.
• 35:12
  Driving and changing your battery, like going to the gas station.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:17
  So just swap of a battery is not every like 10 years or when the useful
• 35:20
  life of the battery is done, but like every time you needed a charge,
• 35:24
  go to the quote unquote, you know, power station, swap out the battery
• 35:29
  and along your, your, your back on your way in 15 minutes or whatever.
• 35:33
  I was kind of getting.
• 35:34
  Go along that line.
• 35:35
  Cause I know it had been talked about before, like having a spare
• 35:38
  battery and your, your vehicle for it.
• 35:40
  But I kind of see it more like what Brad saying, you know, kind of like when
• 35:44
  you're swapping out your propane tank for your grill, you just walk up, you
• 35:47
  give them the empty one, and then you grab the, uh, the full one, put it in.
• 35:51
  And you're on your way.
• 35:52
  And especially for these longer road trips with the EVs right now, you
• 35:57
  know, you're sitting there for, you know, however long, just at least,
• 36:00
  you know, get it charged back up.
• 36:02
  Now, they're not charging all the way up to 100%.
• 36:04
  They're doing that super charge up to about 80 because they're
• 36:08
  able to get that much quicker.
• 36:09
  But in this case, you might be able to swap out to that full 100 percent
• 36:14
  and be able to travel a little bit further and extend your road trip.
• 36:17
  My luck, it'll be like when I go to swap out my propane tank and I Put
• 36:21
  my empty one in and I get one back.
• 36:23
  That's half full.
• 36:24
  So, you know, Hey, whatever, that's my luck.
• 36:26
  But what I don't want to see happen though, because there is a trend
• 36:29
  growing right now about leasing your car from the manufacturer.
• 36:33
  People don't want to purchase their car.
• 36:35
  They're talking about not being able to purchase a car from the manufacturer
• 36:38
  anymore is that it turns into that.
• 36:40
  I forget which episode of black mirror it is, where you just pull
• 36:43
  up to the station and get out of the car and jump in another one.
• 36:46
  That's been sitting there and charge up and you just drive away.
• 36:48
  And you've paid this.
• 36:49
  Subscription plan for a type of car that you're able to drive.
• 36:53
  Cause all the cars are kind of cookie cutter in the same, right?
• 36:55
  You just go from one to the next.
• 36:57
  So to me, that would be like, that would be the end of just carness as we know it.
• 37:01
  Right.
• 37:02
  It's just completely soulless appliances that are out on the road, Tesla.
• 37:06
  But anyway,
• 37:08
  So speaking of that, the other thing that's going on with Volkswagen is
• 37:13
  this project as they call it, that is quote, supposed to lead Volkswagen to
• 37:19
  the financial promised land, taking the company out of the low margin
• 37:23
  business of manufacturing and into a new business model that offers the
• 37:27
  rich returns of software as a service.
• 37:30
  And so the article kind of goes on and talks about whatever this
• 37:33
  project is, which is all very vague and there's not a lot of details.
• 37:36
  It could allow drivers to choose all wheel drive or extra power
• 37:40
  on a quote fee for service basis.
• 37:43
  So basically they're talking about like how they even have now
• 37:46
  with their MQB, whatever that the single platform and they're just.
• 37:49
  You know, changing the body on the outside.
• 37:51
  Sounds like they kind of want to do something similar where it's like, all
• 37:53
  right, we got, we build one car and then you can decide if you want silver,
• 37:58
  gold, platinum, plutonium subscription, and we'll give you, you know, 20 year
• 38:04
  old GTI or golf performance or GTI performance or our 32 performance,
• 38:08
  which I'm very confused how this works.
• 38:10
  No, no, I know how
• 38:11
  this works.
• 38:12
  You're driving down the road at 60 and
• 38:15
  ads are popping up on the street going, Do you feel like your car is slow?
• 38:18
  Click here to upgrade now and get 50 more horsepower.
• 38:21
  So you could do 70 miles an hour for only 29.
• 38:24
  99.
• 38:25
  It's going to be just like all these
• 38:27
  freaking ads on your computer.
• 38:28
  Isn't this
• 38:29
  another black mirror episode with having to generate widgets or whatever,
• 38:33
  his room, and he's got to watch so many hours of whatever stupid videos.
• 38:39
  Dude, that show is foreshadowing.
• 38:41
  I'm
• 38:41
  telling
• 38:42
  you, EW says quote, they, the cars will have virtually everything on board
• 38:47
  and customers will be able to activate desired functions on demand at any time
• 38:51
  via the digital ecosystem in the car.
• 38:54
  I just don't understand though, because if you buy your, whatever car
• 38:58
  you want to buy and you decide, Oh, I want the R32 performance package.
• 39:02
  Well, the car has to have been built with, so whatever the, the highest performance
• 39:06
  package that you could subscribe to.
• 39:08
  You have to then build every single car would have to be
• 39:12
  an R32 performance package.
• 39:14
  And then you decide that, Oh, I'm going to run it in golf mode.
• 39:17
  And okay.
• 39:18
  Switches to front wheel drive, blah, blah, blah, disengages
• 39:22
  differential that you didn't need.
• 39:23
  If you just wanted a front wheel drive and like all this extra
• 39:26
  stuff that you didn't need.
• 39:28
  If you just wanted base model, I don't understand.
• 39:31
  I mean, minis and things like that.
• 39:32
  A lot of the cars have this.
• 39:35
  Race mode and all that.
• 39:36
  Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
• 39:37
  Three more paychecks and I'll be able to afford turning on the
• 39:39
  No, dude!
• 39:40
  No, dude!
• 39:41
  No, right?
• 39:41
  Dude, it's gonna be like an RPG.
• 39:44
  We're all gonna start off with like, tattered clothes.
• 39:46
  And the more we drive, we'll earn in game currency.
• 39:50
  So we can unlock the horsepower.
• 39:52
  And then I will become a druid night elf.
• 39:55
  The equivalent to like, you're
• 39:57
  making fun, but I guarantee there's a shit ton of people that
• 40:00
  would probably be down for that.
• 40:03
  I'm at level 20.
• 40:05
  What
• 40:05
  are you exactly?
• 40:06
  And then you can buy VIP for a month and unlock all the features.
• 40:12
  So, so what is the, uh, in car currency going to be called?
• 40:16
  Let's take a moment to try and identify what that is.
• 40:19
  What was that sausage called?
• 40:23
  Oh, that's awesome.
• 40:25
  Strudel.
• 40:26
  I've got 50, 000 strudel.
• 40:28
  I got schnitzel.
• 40:29
  Oh, that's old currency.
• 40:31
  Schnitzel's out.
• 40:32
  That's that's the old, that's the last mod.
• 40:36
  Oh my God.
• 40:36
  Sell all that at
• 40:37
  the trading house.
• 40:38
  You're
• 40:38
  never winter Volkswagen.
• 40:40
  Yeah,
• 40:40
  I don't know that.
• 40:41
  I mean, there's not a lot of.
• 40:42
  Good information yet on what exactly this means.
• 40:46
  It's a little frightening.
• 40:47
  That would be a good name to replace the mid sized Chrysler SUV yet to be named.
• 40:53
  I would call it the Paladin.
• 40:54
  I figured it out now that we've gone there.
• 40:56
  It's the Paladin.
• 40:57
  But there's
• 40:58
  already a Chrysler.
• 40:59
  Isn't there already a Paladin?
• 41:00
  There's a Palisade, the Hyundai.
• 41:01
  All right.
• 41:03
  Anyway.
• 41:04
  Meanwhile, so the postal service has just signed a contract with Oshkosh B'gach.
• 41:10
  Are
• 41:10
  you
• 41:11
  serious?
• 41:13
  Oshkosh Defense is going to be doing the new postal truck, the
• 41:16
  next generation delivery vehicle.
• 41:18
  Dude, I looked at this thing and I mean, I'm going to miss the old Grumman Jeeps
• 41:22
  and stuff that had been around for like a billion years, but this thing is ugly.
• 41:27
  Right.
• 41:28
  I mean, who, who put it in a trash compactor and decided it was a good,
• 41:32
  a, it's like a bus got squished.
• 41:35
  I mean, I don't understand what it is.
• 41:37
  It's, it is ugly though.
• 41:38
  I will say so.
• 41:40
  So some of them are going to be low emission, uh, ice, and some
• 41:44
  of them are going to be Evie.
• 41:45
  One thing that I'm actually looking pretty forward to with the, the postal trucks.
• 41:50
  So anybody that's had any experience with any of the Oshkosh trucks, they
• 41:54
  have some really cool technology in them.
• 41:57
  Their tires and suspension and everything.
• 41:59
  So like in the military vehicles, you've got this display unit where you just
• 42:03
  basically touch what type of terrain you're going into, and it dynamically
• 42:07
  changes your tire pressures, your suspension profile, all of that happens
• 42:13
  in real time so that you're able to go through different terrain types.
• 42:17
  If they were to actually carry this over.
• 42:19
  With the postal service, especially since even during all these bad weather
• 42:23
  conditions, they're still supposed to be out there, you know, delivering
• 42:27
  mail and packages and everything.
• 42:28
  This is something that can give those drivers a leg up on Mother Nature.
• 42:33
  And getting through some of these tougher situations.
• 42:36
  So they're able to get through some of the snow, possibly if they're in an
• 42:40
  area where they have to do a little bit muddy drive in or anything like that.
• 42:43
  Like that's something that, uh, I think would be really beneficial.
• 42:47
  So what you're saying is my mailman won't do a one wheel peel from my house
• 42:51
  to the next house to the next house anymore, is that what I'm understanding?
• 42:54
  Who knows, maybe this is making me actually want to sign up and
• 42:58
  apply to be a mail carrier now, just so I can play with the truck.
• 43:00
  They're going
• 43:01
  to, they're going to have to do something to, uh, secure the packages or do
• 43:07
  something so that it's the torque.
• 43:08
  Is it so insane that they gun it like they do in the, that's In the
• 43:12
  vans right now and all the stuff just flies in the back of the
• 43:18
  van.
• 43:18
  So I'm going to,
• 43:19
  yes, it'll be fine.
• 43:20
  They're, they're used to dropping packages.
• 43:23
  If leaving them in the middle of my driveway, cause they won't walk down it.
• 43:26
  We're saying all this though, but I think the postal service could
• 43:28
  have saved themselves 470 some odd million dollars because they
• 43:32
  don't deliver packages anyway.
• 43:34
  It's the last time you got something from your USPS that you were supposed to.
• 43:37
  Personally, I think small around town.
• 43:41
  Delivery vehicles is the perfect platform for EVs, buses, uh, small, you know,
• 43:48
  mail trucks, delivery vehicles, people.
• 43:50
  It's perfect.
• 43:51
  I think it's the perfect platform for it.
• 43:53
  And that would do so much to help us with our emissions issues.
• 43:57
  If everybody was just, if.
• 43:58
  These delivery people and everything, these small
• 44:02
  commercial vehicles were all EVs.
• 44:04
  Absolutely.
• 44:04
  I mean, in Europe, or well, especially in Italy, they went to natural gas
• 44:08
  transit, you know, tight vans and little small transporters and stuff years and
• 44:13
  years and years ago, the problem with natural gas or CNG was that it defines.
• 44:19
  Torqueless wonder.
• 44:20
  And I mean, if, if, if you think like a Honda off VTEC is slow, I
• 44:25
  mean, then drive a natural gas car.
• 44:26
  You'll think it's a, it's a freaking race car in comparison.
• 44:29
  But if I'm delivering snail mail to little Susie grandma down the street, I'm not
• 44:36
  sitting there thinking about my Torquems.
• 44:38
  I'm thinking about how I'm going to get this mail delivered before lunch.
• 44:41
  So I can blow off the rest of the day.
• 44:42
  A
• 44:42
  hundred percent.
• 44:43
  And if, you know, with mail trucks being big and flat, if they could finally figure
• 44:46
  out how to do those solar roofs, so they could charge as they're kind of start up
• 44:49
  and go driving, that would be perfect.
• 44:51
  And in addition to the USPS trucks, UPS is also, uh, switching to, or looking to
• 44:58
  switch to, uh, You know, an electric van.
• 45:01
  Yeah.
• 45:01
  There's a UK startup that they've, I guess, signed a contract with.
• 45:05
  They're going to get this UK startups called Arrival and they've designed
• 45:09
  electric van, um, and they're going to deliver 10, 000 of the Brown vans for UPS.
• 45:15
  They're going to be exactly for what we're talking about.
• 45:17
  It's for last mile delivery, meaning they're at the facility and
• 45:22
  they're just going out to your door.
• 45:23
  They have 150 mile range.
• 45:25
  It's not the interstate UPS truck, tractor trailers going back and
• 45:28
  forth, but it's those short bursts.
• 45:30
  daily travel, which this is perfect for, and it'd be great not to hear
• 45:34
  the UPS guy slamming down the road.
• 45:36
  So here's
• 45:37
  my suggestion.
• 45:39
  We go back to the railway system.
• 45:41
  We find a way to run rail railways, you know, cleaner,
• 45:45
  and then they go into a station.
• 45:48
  You know, inside these little towns and then these EVs go out and deliver,
• 45:52
  you know, to the various little commercial places and residential
• 45:56
  and everything that they need to.
• 45:57
  We get all the stupid effing trucks off the damn road.
• 46:00
  Well, a couple things on that.
• 46:02
  Trains have been diesel electric hybrids for as long as I can remember.
• 46:07
  So the technologies aren't there.
• 46:08
  Why we haven't borrowed from that.
• 46:11
  Advancement engineering is beyond me.
• 46:13
  Meanwhile, Amazon continues to buy RAM vans from Stellantis.
• 46:18
  So I don't know what's going on.
• 46:20
  But you're starting to see more and more of the blue vans
• 46:23
  popping up on the streets.
• 46:25
  You know what I will also say?
• 46:26
  Is that this will be the weirdest one lap at the Berg ring in Forza with
• 46:30
  all these new, you know, delivery vehicles that are gonna be coming out.
• 46:33
  So, Forza eight, I'm excited.
• 46:35
  Let's see what, you know, Oshkosh and the, the arrival and the,
• 46:38
  the, the Ram vans and whatever.
• 46:40
  So we'll see where that goes.
• 46:41
  Not only is the delivery industry changing, but so is law enforcement.
• 46:46
  I heard that.
• 46:48
  Ford is going to start supplying pickup trucks as a replacement for
• 46:53
  the veteran Crown Victoria and some of the other vehicles that are no longer
• 46:57
  available as police interceptors.
• 46:59
  I'm not sure if the Exploder is going away or if this is in conjunction with,
• 47:03
  but the one thing that got me excited is these trucks are going to be set
• 47:08
  up to do at least 120 mile an hour.
• 47:11
  I don't know if they're meant to replace the, the Crownvix.
• 47:15
  What are, what are the other ones that they use the charger to, or they used to?
• 47:18
  The sedans, I don't know if they're meant to entirely replace the sedans.
• 47:21
  Ford side, they were using the Taurus.
• 47:23
  The Taurus was replacing some of the aging Crownvix.
• 47:27
  I think it's more of a supplemental thing for like special cases and Right.
• 47:31
  Because they already have pickup
• 47:32
  truck police responder vehicles.
• 47:34
  Today they're gas.
• 47:36
  So this is just kind of the next evolution for those.
• 47:39
  Right.
• 47:40
  And yeah, they did up the, the horsepower, the total top speed from 105 to 120.
• 47:46
  Apparently it's, it's, they're basically the FX4 off road package.
• 47:50
  So it's got enhanced off roading capability, which is, I guess, good
• 47:54
  depending on which kind of pursuit they're undergoing, or if they're using
• 47:57
  these kind of in more rural areas.
• 48:00
  Or to
• 48:00
  arrest Jeep owners that go on bike trails in California.
• 48:03
  Yeah, I mean, you could be giving these to, um, park ranger, police, uh, those
• 48:08
  kind of people and they're going off.
• 48:10
  The park rangers and
• 48:11
  police, the park rangers all drive square body Chevys.
• 48:15
  Not on Jurassic Park, but every
• 48:17
  single park ranger truck I've ever seen has been an early In 80s or early 90s GM.
• 48:24
  I
• 48:24
  think I've seen I've seen some pretty sure I've seen some Ford pickups
• 48:28
  Those are personal vehicles.
• 48:30
  Okay But
• 48:32
  since we're talking about Ford the Mach E which is barely out Is
• 48:37
  having a recall because they have loose bolts on the control arms.
• 48:40
  So apparently they did not enlist me to tighten these bolts for
• 48:45
  them because had they, the bolts would never come apart ever again.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:49
  If you have a Mach E get it to a dealership just to get it checked out.
• 48:53
  Yeah.
• 48:53
  Get it checked out.
• 48:54
  I don't think any of them are actually even in service yet.
• 48:57
  I think, I don't
• 48:58
  think, I think they caught it before any of them were released to anyone.
• 49:02
  So,
• 49:03
  but, uh, Ford, if you're looking for somebody to tighten your
• 49:06
  control arm bolts, give me a shout.
• 49:09
  Meanwhile,
• 49:10
  we
• 49:11
  would be remiss.
• 49:13
  We haven't quite talked about Tesla yet.
• 49:14
  So we would be remiss not to talk about them.
• 49:19
  I hate to knock on Tesla all the time.
• 49:22
  We can knock on them for this one because of their exuberance about
• 49:27
  touting how they have full self driving capability and all this stuff.
• 49:31
  And we talked about this before about how that's bullcrap and that doesn't exist yet
• 49:36
  and they really should stop saying that.
• 49:38
  And apparently, they wrote a letter to California admitting that their
• 49:45
  autonomous, whatever the hell they call it, is not autonomous.
• 49:48
  Full self driving.
• 49:50
  So
• 49:53
  finally admitting it.
• 49:54
  I feel like the damage is already done to people that are, are a little
• 49:58
  bit too, uh, ignorant about how these things work, but hopefully, you know,
• 50:03
  people will be a little more attentive when they're driving and not like, And
• 50:06
  some of the stories you've heard, like
• 50:09
  what?
• 50:10
  He's
• 50:10
  flat out.
• 50:11
  He's like, they won't.
• 50:12
  Oh, no, you're absolutely right.
• 50:13
  They won't.
• 50:14
  But one would hope that the stories that we've reported on where people
• 50:18
  rolled the seat back and took a nap, their, their autopilot takeover,
• 50:23
  you know, hopefully people would stop doing that, but probably not.
• 50:27
  So yes, of course, they're still working on, you know, their
• 50:29
  technology and, and moving it forward.
• 50:32
  And the goal is.
• 50:33
  You know, one day that it is completely autonomous.
• 50:37
  Um, we'll see if how far in the future that happens.
• 50:40
  I'm just happy that they finally admit to what we already knew.
• 50:44
  And speaking of their autonomous driving autopilot, they had two incidents within
• 50:52
  like, I think a week of each other this month in Michigan, both were in Michigan.
• 50:56
  For whatever reason.
• 50:57
  The two Teslas that were on autopilot crashed.
• 51:00
  The first ended up crashing into, under, into, I guess, under is the
• 51:05
  more appropriate, under a tractor trailer, so that always ends well.
• 51:09
  I don't remember if the person died or not.
• 51:13
  You're practically trying to decapitate yourself when you
• 51:16
  go under your tractor trailer.
• 51:17
  But basically, like, That's not, that's not how it worked
• 51:19
  in the Fast and the Furious.
• 51:22
  They didn't go under the back.
• 51:24
  No, they, they, they basically T boned the, the tractor trailer.
• 51:29
  So I looked at the pictures and that thing is sandwiched underneath there.
• 51:34
  So basically think like the bottom of the window line crushed underneath there.
• 51:38
  It says both people that were in the vehicle survived.
• 51:41
  However,
• 51:42
  they were sleeping fully reclined
• 51:44
  most likely.
• 51:45
  So I think this is pretty funny.
• 51:47
  So the driver was a 21 year old female or wait, no, that was the passenger.
• 51:53
  So the driver.
• 51:54
  Was driving on a suspended license.
• 51:56
  So is her excuse that she wasn't really driving so she can't
• 52:00
  be charged with the felony?
• 52:01
  Oh, shit.
• 52:04
  Oh, my God.
• 52:04
  It just gets worse.
• 52:08
  She's being charged with reckless driving without a license.
• 52:12
  I don't know.
• 52:13
  With
• 52:13
  reckless driving.
• 52:15
  I don't know how they survived, quite honestly, because.
• 52:18
  It's under, okay, the roof to the back doors is caved down.
• 52:24
  Like I, I mean, it's a miracle that those two people lived.
• 52:27
  It's a good thing they were sleeping.
• 52:29
  I mean, it's not funny, but I mean, I, you know what, I hope they were
• 52:35
  reclined and sleeping because that's the only thing that saved their lives.
• 52:39
  Well, if
• 52:39
  they weren't sleeping, they probably wouldn't have hit the truck.
• 52:43
  Oh, there's that too.
• 52:45
  I mean, they weren't paying attention to the car, failed to do its job
• 52:48
  and to see the tractor trailer.
• 52:49
  And there's been reports of that for the last several years of the
• 52:54
  cars, not appropriately seeing tractor trailers on highways.
• 52:57
  And especially if they're not moving.
• 52:59
  Or they're stalled out or something like that.
• 53:01
  The second incident was also someone driving with their autopilot on, and
• 53:06
  there was a police cruiser pulled over on the side of the roadway for whatever
• 53:10
  reason, and it hit the police car.
• 53:12
  So, I mean, I, I know it's not funny, but I have to laugh.
• 53:15
  So are these things turning into like.
• 53:17
  Heat seeking missiles.
• 53:19
  Every time they go into autopilot mode, if there's some stationary
• 53:22
  object, they're going to hit it.
• 53:23
  That's called kamikaze mode.
• 53:27
  It's ludicrous mode and then whatever this is.
• 53:31
  And then the, the, the one who ran into the truck, maybe they didn't see it.
• 53:36
  I'm sorry, officer.
• 53:38
  I didn't see that 60 foot, 30, 000 pound vehicle in front of me.
• 53:43
  Well, I mean, it was based on the photos for the police incident.
• 53:46
  It was at night.
• 53:48
  So you could argue it was night, the cops pulled over, the lights were on, the blue
• 53:54
  and reds were flashing on the cop car.
• 53:56
  The
• 53:56
  cherries and berries.
• 53:57
  But then one could argue maybe that created some sort of interference
• 54:01
  with the sensors that are being used.
• 54:04
  Are you saying the Tesla
• 54:05
  was blinded by the light?
• 54:06
  No,
• 54:07
  but as we know from the story we reported about the Canadian guys in
• 54:11
  the Tesla that were being followed by the police officer, they accelerate
• 54:15
  when they see the reds and blues.
• 54:17
  So what's up,
• 54:20
  ? Yeah, I don't know.
• 54:21
  I mean, also it, it's on the full investigation.
• 54:24
  I don't think it's done.
• 54:24
  The, the driver is claiming they're on autopilot, so they could also have
• 54:29
  been not on autopilot, not paying attention and veered, coincidentally,
• 54:34
  at the same time, they're near the police officer blaming autopilot
• 54:37
  on Tesla.
• 54:38
  But I would think that's pretty easy for them to figure out because
• 54:40
  they can go back into the little computer and read all that stuff.
• 54:44
  Well, to wrap up our segment on new cars,
• 54:48
  General Motors has decided to halt production on the Camaro because they
• 54:53
  can't find these little semiconductors
• 54:57
  that we talked about last month
• 54:58
  that we talked about last month.
• 54:59
  Yeah.
• 54:59
  The semiconductor shortage has gotten Chevy all up in arms and they can't
• 55:04
  build the Camaro anymore because of these stupid little things.
• 55:07
  I'm a call flag on the play.
• 55:09
  Let's let's be real here.
• 55:10
  The Camaro isn't selling well, neither is the Corvette.
• 55:14
  This feels like 1999 all over again.
• 55:17
  Early two thousands.
• 55:18
  We got to scrap the Camaro to force people to buy the Corvette.
• 55:23
  Reality, the Camaro is a better performer than the Corvette right now.
• 55:27
  And if you think about it politically, it just doesn't make sense to keep it around
• 55:31
  and the price point and everything else.
• 55:33
  So to me, I'm saying this semiconductor thing is a great excuse.
• 55:38
  What about all the rest of the cars that they're building?
• 55:40
  I don't know what's going on.
• 55:41
  Why is GM the only one affected by this?
• 55:42
  It doesn't make any sense at all.
• 55:45
  I think GM is the only one that's most vocal.
• 55:50
  About it regarding like the changes that they have to make and they
• 55:54
  have to blame it on something.
• 55:55
  So let's blame it on the semiconductors.
• 55:57
  I mean, it's not blaming on the blame on the fact that we make shitty vehicles.
• 56:00
  I mean, they're not the only ones though that are impacted by it.
• 56:04
  But I still think everybody else is making headlines.
• 56:08
  Yeah, but to scrap the Camaro.
• 56:10
  And not, Oh, I don't know the traverse or something else of higher volume and
• 56:15
  say, we're going to put that on pause.
• 56:16
  No, we're just, we're going to kill the Camaro and that's going to
• 56:18
  solve our semiconductor problem, but
• 56:20
  from a business perspective, you got to scrap the vehicles that aren't selling
• 56:24
  well to keep the vehicles that are.
• 56:27
  Yes, traverse might be selling.
• 56:28
  They might sell more traverses than Camaro's.
• 56:31
  They sell more
• 56:32
  traverses than Camaro's.
• 56:33
  They don't sell more traverses than any other manufacturer sells
• 56:36
  any other vehicle, but they sell more traverses than Camaro's.
• 56:39
  I thought it was interesting that later on in the article, they mentioned how Toyota.
• 56:44
  Hyundai and Kia, they're affected by this, but they're just
• 56:47
  dipping into their stockpile.
• 56:49
  So they apparently planned on this.
• 56:51
  They knew about the COVID and they knew this was going to happen.
• 56:54
  I'm sensing a conspiracy.
• 56:56
  Because you know what, guys?
• 56:57
  I also found something else very interesting on the heels of
• 57:00
  the Camaros being put on pause.
• 57:02
  You see here in Boomer Town, where apparently somebody Wanted me to get a
• 57:07
  actual physical magazine, which I probably won't read And you'll probably won't
• 57:10
  find this article online cadillac on the cover of car and driver is introducing
• 57:16
  the 668 horsepower six speed manual cadillac Ct5v blackwing Excuse me.
• 57:25
  What what is this?
• 57:28
  I'm sorry, I don't understand.
• 57:29
  So we're getting rid of the Camaro.
• 57:31
  We got the Corvette.
• 57:32
  You're telling me we have a semi conductor problem and now you're
• 57:34
  introducing yet another sports saloon?
• 57:37
  I will say, in the article it did say production for the Blackwing
• 57:41
  was also affected by this.
• 57:43
  Either way, I don't get it.
• 57:45
  If you're going to make the excuse to introduce something like that,
• 57:48
  which the market for a sports Cadillac, I think is very limited.
• 57:52
  Gordon already owns one,
• 57:54
  but it's very limited compared to somebody that may be in the market
• 57:58
  to buy a Camaro or a Corvette.
• 58:00
  It, to me, it just doesn't make sense.
• 58:02
  Do they realize they can't fight the muscle car fight against.
• 58:05
  Chrysler, like we've talked about before, and they just got to stick with, you know,
• 58:09
  certain flagship vehicles and move on.
• 58:12
  Or I just don't understand what's going on at GM.
• 58:14
  Again, I, like I've said it before, I'm very hopeful.
• 58:17
  I feel like they've been sitting back watching everybody else maybe make
• 58:20
  mistakes, but there's certain moves going on right now that I just don't get it.
• 58:24
  I want to say that
• 58:25
  that Cadillac looks a lot better than the
• 58:27
  Camaro.
• 58:28
  I agree.
• 58:29
  I'm not, I'm not, I'm not throwing any shade against this Cadillac other
• 58:32
  than the fact that the first time I heard about it was on the fact that
• 58:35
  it was on actually on a magazine.
• 58:37
  I mean, you got to want that Cadillac just because it's called the Blackwing.
• 58:40
  It's pretty cool.
• 58:41
  Got to give it that.
• 58:42
  All right.
• 58:43
  Enough of that.
• 58:43
  Enough of that.
• 58:44
  We got to get into our new newly combined section called.
• 58:51
  Surf and turf, shrimp and grits,
• 58:53
  the extra value.
• 58:54
  I don't know, but what we've done is we've combined all of those
• 58:58
  other segments that we had before.
• 59:00
  Like, would you like fries with that and golden nuggets and all
• 59:03
  this kind of stuff into a brand new section of random car adjacent news
• 59:07
  dollar menu hit the dollar menu.
• 59:09
  I like that.
• 59:10
  So 1st article.
• 59:13
  Um, it's just reporting on another unfortunate incident.
• 59:16
  There was, you know, a car meet and, uh, tomfoolery ensued that ended up
• 59:21
  taking the lives of some people as a Camaro driver was trying to show
• 59:25
  off, kind of doing a hot pull down a feeder road actually here in Texas.
• 59:30
  And I ended up killing some folks as they lost control of this vehicle.
• 59:34
  So it's a very sad, sad article and incident.
• 59:38
  And it's just a reminder to people to not be stupid and don't do dumb things.
• 59:43
  Save this stuff for the track.
• 59:46
  Or the drag strip or, and
• 59:49
  I, I a hundred percent agree.
• 59:50
  Right.
• 59:51
  And it's just one of those things.
• 59:52
  I mean, safety is paramount in motorsport.
• 59:55
  We talk about it a lot, but it's more important on the street.
• 59:57
  Honestly, I'm not impressed if you can do 80 down the highway, let's go to
• 1:00:02
  the track and see what your car can do.
• 1:00:04
  And, and in reality, I actually kind of point my finger at the organizers, but.
• 1:00:10
  I do tip my hat to folks like grid life and stuff like that, where
• 1:00:13
  they're trying to do some of these meets at locations like drag strips
• 1:00:16
  and road courses and things like that, take it to the drag strip, do your
• 1:00:20
  cars and coffee at the track strip.
• 1:00:21
  And if you want to go burn your tires to the ground, Do a couple
• 1:00:25
  passes because in reality, drag racing is not that expensive.
• 1:00:29
  It's actually probably one of the cheapest motor sports and
• 1:00:32
  you can do it with anything.
• 1:00:33
  Yes.
• 1:00:34
  It's convenient to go behind the Krispy Kreme or the Dairy Queen and go talk about
• 1:00:38
  your car and show off to your buddies.
• 1:00:40
  But I don't know, man, there's so many avenues to go have a good
• 1:00:43
  time and do it in a safe way.
• 1:00:45
  And you can show off and people can go, Ooh, I'll look at how
• 1:00:47
  fast that guy's Camaro is.
• 1:00:49
  And the only.
• 1:00:50
  Person that is in jeopardy is you and your car.
• 1:00:53
  And Oh, by the way, if you're worried about bending it,
• 1:00:56
  take out track insurance.
• 1:00:57
  And that way, if something does happen, so be it, you know, but on the street,
• 1:01:02
  there's so many other variables involved.
• 1:01:04
  It's just, it really isn't worth it.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Cause to, to clarify, I guess, um, for whatever reason,
• 1:01:09
  the driver hit another car.
• 1:01:11
  It had a baby inside and basically catapulted that other car into the crowd
• 1:01:16
  that then killed two people and injured.
• 1:01:18
  I don't remember how many.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah,
• 1:01:20
  it's, it's just a disgrace.
• 1:01:21
  I mean,
• 1:01:21
  I mean, so a hundred miles an hour on a feeder road, it's been a while, but
• 1:01:26
  I've actually, based on where they said the location is, I spent many, many,
• 1:01:30
  many a year since I've been to that area, but it doesn't matter because
• 1:01:33
  any of the feeder roads down here, I mean, you're, I mean, they're straight.
• 1:01:37
  Yes.
• 1:01:37
  It's straight and flat, but I mean, it's Like the speed
• 1:01:41
  limit is like 40 miles an hour.
• 1:01:42
  I mean, you shouldn't be doing a hundred miles an hour down a feeder rate.
• 1:01:45
  I mean, every, however, not even like a mile, there's usually a stoplight,
• 1:01:49
  like it's short distances for you to access shopping plazas and this,
• 1:01:52
  that, and the other, I mean, this is beyond stupid and it wouldn't
• 1:01:55
  have been any better to be getting on the highway and doing it either.
• 1:01:58
  So people need to use their brain.
• 1:02:00
  So speaking of Texas,
• 1:02:02
  just an interesting piece of news.
• 1:02:04
  Um, as, We're still in the midst of COVID, at least down here in the state of Texas.
• 1:02:08
  They're, they're really focusing on, on creating hubs where
• 1:02:12
  they can do mass vaccination.
• 1:02:13
  But now a lot of other states are doing similar to that as well.
• 1:02:16
  So over in Austin, they're using the circuit of the Americas.
• 1:02:20
  I believe it opened earlier or at the end of February as a vaccination hub.
• 1:02:26
  So they're getting not a huge supply of the vaccine, but
• 1:02:29
  they're hoping to get more.
• 1:02:30
  And they're all set up to do as they called it Chick fil
• 1:02:32
  A lines, very well organized.
• 1:02:34
  And you can just drive up, get your shot, pull over, do the
• 1:02:37
  waiting thing and then leave.
• 1:02:39
  Kudos to circuit of America's track for supporting the vaccination efforts.
• 1:02:44
  And if you're in the Austin area, maybe you can sign up and be able
• 1:02:49
  to go to CODA to get your shot.
• 1:02:51
  Can I get a 20 minute session on track while I'm waiting for the
• 1:02:56
  vaccine to take effect or whatever?
• 1:02:57
  At least one lap.
• 1:02:58
  You got
• 1:02:58
  to get one lap of CODA in there, man.
• 1:03:00
  Probably some liability issues in there because they want you to kind
• 1:03:04
  of hang around to make sure you don't have adverse side effects.
• 1:03:07
  That's right.
• 1:03:08
  You,
• 1:03:08
  that's what you drive around the track while you're waiting.
• 1:03:10
  It's perfect.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Last thing you need is to have an adverse side effect as
• 1:03:14
  you're driving around the track.
• 1:03:17
  Meanwhile, in lighter news, we've brought it up before on our holiday shopping
• 1:03:21
  guide and a couple other episodes leading up to that talking about the
• 1:03:25
  ridiculous world of car collecting, but I'm talking about collecting Hot Wheels.
• 1:03:30
  There is now the world's most valuable Hot Wheels out there on the market.
• 1:03:35
  And it happens to be a Volkswagen, it's a type two bus, it's known as the beach
• 1:03:41
  bomb, and it has been valued as the most expensive collector Hot Wheels in history.
• 1:03:47
  It is valued at a whopping 150, 000.
• 1:03:51
  Can you imagine something you bought back in the 60s or 70s?
• 1:03:56
  For a dollar is now worth 150 grand.
• 1:03:59
  So if you happen to have one of those, hold on to it even longer.
• 1:04:02
  If you're out at Walmart or Target this weekend, grab yourself some Hot Wheels.
• 1:04:05
  They might be worth something someday.
• 1:04:07
  In an interesting little tidbit, this guy is in Maryland.
• 1:04:10
  So I'm thinking a, uh, road trip to go see this thing.
• 1:04:14
  It wouldn't be a drive thru episode if we didn't have some fries with that.
• 1:04:19
  So this first Serving comes out of Toronto, unfortunately.
• 1:04:24
  And I,
• 1:04:28
  thankfully the person wasn't hurt.
• 1:04:31
  Uh, the same can't be said for what is very likely they're completely
• 1:04:35
  totaled mini, but apparently it's young woman, 26 year old nurse.
• 1:04:40
  Was, uh, waiting at a light to turn up on an on ramp, I guess, to
• 1:04:45
  get onto the highway in her Mini.
• 1:04:47
  And she turned onto the on ramp.
• 1:04:51
  But the gigantic dump truck, or whatever it was, who was behind
• 1:04:55
  her, at the light, rear ends her.
• 1:04:57
  Causes the Mini to do a 90 degree spin.
• 1:05:02
  So now it's perpendicular with the Low that it should be going in
• 1:05:07
  and the dump truck keeps driving.
• 1:05:09
  So the dump truck now is T boning this young woman and pushing her up the
• 1:05:14
  ramp onto the highway and keeps going.
• 1:05:17
  And there's CCTV camera that catches unfolding smoke billowing, because
• 1:05:23
  it's like scraping against the cement wall and all this shit, and there's
• 1:05:27
  like dust coming up, apparently, you know, uh, someone else noticed all
• 1:05:33
  the cement smoke and stuff coming up and pulled up alongside and saw
• 1:05:37
  that there's this car being t boned.
• 1:05:39
  And thankfully what they did, and honestly I probably would have done the
• 1:05:42
  same thing had I seen this, is they out accelerated, pulled out in front and,
• 1:05:48
  you know, basically created a roadblock and forced the dump truck driver to stop.
• 1:05:52
  And then he got out and was like, I didn't see you.
• 1:06:00
  I didn't see you.
• 1:06:01
  And then asked that the cops not be called.
• 1:06:05
  And if he could just pay for the damages,
• 1:06:07
  Pay for a whole new car.
• 1:06:11
  I mean, minis are small, but still, The cost of a
• 1:06:14
  mini is the cost of a mini.
• 1:06:15
  I mean, that doesn't matter how big it is, but okay.
• 1:06:19
  And then you, and then, Uh, you know, you read some of the comments and there's,
• 1:06:22
  you know, the trolls are like, well, you know, drivers really need to respect
• 1:06:27
  big trucks because, you know, they can't see you and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:06:31
  And I'm like, she was in front of this dumb truck, allegedly,
• 1:06:36
  and also at a stoplight.
• 1:06:38
  He had to have come up to her and they both turned on the same on ramp.
• 1:06:42
  And so that whole, oh, you can't see what he forgot she was there.
• 1:06:47
  I'm sorry.
• 1:06:47
  This dude's at fault.
• 1:06:49
  I mean, I guess we don't know the full story exactly what happened,
• 1:06:52
  but as presented I get out of here.
• 1:06:58
  It's befuddling much like our next story.
• 1:07:01
  Oh, the next story brings us back into warmer climates down south.
• 1:07:05
  Where would we be if we weren't in Florida?
• 1:07:08
  Oh man.
• 1:07:09
  So, you know, you just read the title alone, Florida Man Strikes
• 1:07:13
  Again, as Hellbird Fusion dangerously transports ladder, and someone video
• 1:07:22
  recorded this as they observed it.
• 1:07:24
  And you might be asking, well, you know, what was he doing?
• 1:07:27
  He like strapped it.
• 1:07:28
  He's like, put it on the roof.
• 1:07:29
  He's holding it.
• 1:07:30
  It's one hand kind of thing.
• 1:07:32
  It's like that,
• 1:07:32
  like that dude with the camera and the light pole.
• 1:07:38
  Like the dude who was going to take very nicely.
• 1:07:40
  Take that fall and light pole to the recycling center
• 1:07:43
  after he hit it.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  He may or may not have hit it.
• 1:07:47
  We don't know.
• 1:07:48
  Yeah.
• 1:07:49
  So no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:50
  That might've been better.
• 1:07:53
  Yes, it's difficult to transport long items like a ladder in a
• 1:07:58
  sedan, or a not SUV or pickup truck.
• 1:08:01
  But he solved this problem by rolling down the rear windows and just sliding
• 1:08:06
  the ladder across the back seats.
• 1:08:08
  Uh, across Letting this like probably 10 foot ladder, just
• 1:08:13
  hang out the sides of the car and then drive down the interstate.
• 1:08:17
  I'm
• 1:08:19
  okay with this.
• 1:08:20
  It's within the lines.
• 1:08:21
  It's no wider than a Hummer H one.
• 1:08:28
  Looking at the video to me, it is to me, it looks like it's within the lines.
• 1:08:33
  What he should have done is he should have put it through the rear driver's
• 1:08:36
  side window and caddy corner through the front passenger side window.
• 1:08:41
  To give himself a little extra, extra space
• 1:08:44
  wedged in there
• 1:08:46
  in there.
• 1:08:47
  I don't know much about a Ford Fusion because I never owned one.
• 1:08:51
  However, people have said that the back seats do fall down in the Ford Fusion.
• 1:08:58
  So.
• 1:08:59
  Probably would have been better to have it sticking out the rear,
• 1:09:03
  at least in a parallel direction with the car, than sticking out the
• 1:09:07
  sides to accidentally hit somebody.
• 1:09:10
  So this Florida man is actually a firefighter, and he's testing out a new
• 1:09:14
  delivery service for the ladder, and he needed to be able to quick release.
• 1:09:18
  Alright, I'm going to assume that this was not strapped down, and so the first
• 1:09:24
  off ramp he took, this thing was going flying out the window anyway, right?
• 1:09:27
  He probably had the windows up to hold it into place.
• 1:09:31
  Actually, based on this photo, you are right, Brad.
• 1:09:33
  It does look like the windows are up.
• 1:09:37
  And otherwise, the article says it doesn't appear that it's
• 1:09:39
  secured by any hoops or anything.
• 1:09:42
  So you're absolutely right.
• 1:09:43
  You take a, you forget and you take a sharp turn or swerve
• 1:09:47
  and like that sucker slides
• 1:09:48
  straight out the side into.
• 1:09:51
  The backseat of somebody else's car as they're driving by.
• 1:09:55
  Can you imagine?
• 1:09:56
  Next thing you know, you got
• 1:09:56
  this ladder coming at you.
• 1:09:58
  The banana is replaced in Mario Kart by 10 foot ladder.
• 1:10:02
  Oh
• 1:10:02
  man.
• 1:10:02
  Oh my god.
• 1:10:04
  In his defense, he's at least being courteous and
• 1:10:07
  staying on the far right lane.
• 1:10:09
  So that he doesn't hit anybody else.
• 1:10:12
  He decapitated,
• 1:10:13
  he decapitated every cyclist on the shoulder though.
• 1:10:17
  Well, it's a, it's a highway, so there shouldn't be any cyclists.
• 1:10:20
  That's their own fault in this case.
• 1:10:22
  And that's his defense.
• 1:10:24
  You dumbass shouldn't be on the highway.
• 1:10:27
  What happens when there's that pulled over police cruiser on the shoulder?
• 1:10:31
  He'll get hit by a Tesla.
• 1:10:34
  How does the Tesla handle this ladder that's sticking out?
• 1:10:37
  Laughs.
• 1:10:38
  That is a very good question.
• 1:10:40
  What, I, what happens in Florida, people?
• 1:10:42
  I mean, somebody explain it to me.
• 1:10:44
  They're all bored.
• 1:10:46
  Oh God.
• 1:10:48
  I hope I never get old.
• 1:10:50
  Anyway.
• 1:10:50
  Thanks.
• 1:10:54
  I need that Cadillac.
• 1:10:56
  All right.
• 1:10:56
  I think it's time for us to go behind the pit wall and talk about
• 1:11:00
  some actual motor sports news.
• 1:11:02
  We are a car and motor sports podcast after all.
• 1:11:06
  All right, so if you, if you've been living under a rock for a while, we
• 1:11:09
  are finally returning to dirt racing in NASCAR for the first time since the 1970s.
• 1:11:15
  Wait, is this the thing where they're gonna like bring dump
• 1:11:17
  truck loads of dirt onto the Yes.
• 1:11:20
  I think we talked about that.
• 1:11:21
  You know what, I would watch it for like three laps.
• 1:11:24
  Yes.
• 1:11:24
  It's going to be amazing.
• 1:11:25
  We talked
• 1:11:25
  about this in a previous drive through as well.
• 1:11:27
  We did.
• 1:11:28
  And it's going to happen at Bristol.
• 1:11:30
  It's the, I think the first of three that they're going to do again,
• 1:11:32
  guys, this has been done before.
• 1:11:34
  This is not new.
• 1:11:35
  Everybody makes it sound like it's something that is new to NASCAR.
• 1:11:38
  This was a real thing back in the seventies.
• 1:11:40
  If you watch Lost Speedways.
• 1:11:43
  On the Peacock Dale Earnhardt Jr.
• 1:11:45
  Covers all this.
• 1:11:46
  He talks about the old days of NASCAR and things like that.
• 1:11:48
  Even, you know, the, even the earlier days in that, but racing
• 1:11:51
  on dirt was not a big deal.
• 1:11:52
  A lot of these guys got their start racing on dirt.
• 1:11:54
  However, the transformation of Bristol to dirt has been a massive.
• 1:12:00
  Undertaking it used to have a dirt configuration a long time
• 1:12:03
  ago, but it's, it's so far gone.
• 1:12:06
  People that did that are no longer around stuff like that.
• 1:12:09
  So it's been a massive undertaking for them to convert the track back over.
• 1:12:12
  And then they're going to have to convert it back to pavement again.
• 1:12:15
  So it's not going to stay as dirt.
• 1:12:16
  So a lot of money involved, a lot of logistics just for this one race.
• 1:12:20
  So it's going to be really interesting to see what happens here.
• 1:12:23
  There's a lot of articles out there by auto week and a bunch of others.
• 1:12:25
  Following their progress and they're kind of unsure at this point.
• 1:12:29
  They're even going to get done in time.
• 1:12:31
  Crews are working tirelessly to get this going.
• 1:12:34
  So we'll see where that goes, but let's shift to open wheel racing instead.
• 1:12:39
  So there's any car driver Jr.
• 1:12:41
  Hildebrand and he races in any car and he's got 2021 Dallara And he's going to
• 1:12:47
  be racing in the IndyCar series this year.
• 1:12:49
  That was a lot of alphabet soup, basically the 2021 IndyCar.
• 1:12:53
  All right.
• 1:12:53
  He's going to be taking it.
• 1:12:55
  To Pike's Peak Hill Climb.
• 1:12:57
  So the registrant list, the participant list came out not too long ago.
• 1:13:02
  And if you look through the list, you'll see J.
• 1:13:04
  R.
• 1:13:04
  Hildebrand in a IR 18.
• 1:13:08
  Personally, I think this is kind of cool.
• 1:13:10
  I'm all in on the Pike's Peak Hill Climb.
• 1:13:11
  I don't really get to watch it or anything, but I love the idea of it.
• 1:13:15
  And it's an amazing event that's been going on for forever.
• 1:13:19
  How long has it been going on?
• 1:13:21
  Decades.
• 1:13:22
  Is an IndyCar too low for Pikes Peak?
• 1:13:25
  I mean, there's, I mean, we saw Randy props in, in the Tesla go airborne on
• 1:13:31
  just a dip and lose traction, right?
• 1:13:34
  Yeah.
• 1:13:35
  But then the,
• 1:13:35
  that Tesla,
• 1:13:36
  the, the world record lap time there is held by Roman Al
• 1:13:41
  and the, the Volkswagen IDR.
• 1:13:43
  The IDR is an LMP car though,
• 1:13:45
  but I mean, it's still still low.
• 1:13:48
  It's still a race car.
• 1:13:49
  It's a full blown race car.
• 1:13:50
  The important thing for me here is why don't we commission a car for Pikes Peak?
• 1:13:55
  Because a Miata at Pikes Peak would be super boring.
• 1:13:58
  That's why we wouldn't do it.
• 1:14:00
  But then
• 1:14:00
  you can say you did Pikes Peak.
• 1:14:02
  That's true.
• 1:14:02
  But here's the problem I have for you.
• 1:14:04
  With all of this is that Pike's Peak today is not the Pike's Peak of let's
• 1:14:08
  say 30 years ago, it much like, you know, Bristol going back to dirt,
• 1:14:13
  Pike's Peak was mostly off road.
• 1:14:15
  It was mostly dirt and gravel.
• 1:14:17
  There were some tarmac spots in there, but now it's a fully paved
• 1:14:21
  road all the way up to the summit.
• 1:14:22
  So you are starting to see more cars like this taking on the race
• 1:14:27
  to the sky, formula cars, Indy cars, the IDR, stuff like that.
• 1:14:31
  But.
• 1:14:31
  I think Pike's Peak has kind of lost its luster because now it's
• 1:14:35
  like a public road, just like Tale of the Dragon or anything else.
• 1:14:38
  The thing I took away from this though, my first question, much like to Tanya's point
• 1:14:43
  about it being bumpy and hilly and whatnot is, does the IndyCar really have to turn?
• 1:14:48
  Proper turning radius to get through some of those hairpins.
• 1:14:52
  I mean, it's going to be like watching the hotel corner at Monaco where
• 1:14:56
  the formula one cars need like a granny gear to get around, you know,
• 1:15:00
  that turn, because it's so slow.
• 1:15:02
  Some of the corners on Pike's peak are just.
• 1:15:04
  Just ridiculously slow.
• 1:15:06
  And they were really designed for a rally car to be sliding around the corner, not
• 1:15:11
  approaching it like on a road course.
• 1:15:13
  So I just, I wonder how he's going to fare.
• 1:15:15
  I'm sure he's going to be faster than most everybody that's there
• 1:15:18
  based on sheer acceleration alone and downforce and things like that.
• 1:15:22
  I'm curious to see what he does, but on the same token, it's like.
• 1:15:26
  Well, the article suggests that this could become a contender for the all
• 1:15:30
  time record and it could challenge Dumas and the Volkswagen IDR.
• 1:15:34
  Well, we'll see.
• 1:15:35
  I'm happy that Volkswagen holds the record, but, you know, if
• 1:15:39
  it gets broken, it gets broken.
• 1:15:40
  But I guess we'll have to tune in and find out.
• 1:15:43
  If it dies, it dies.
• 1:15:44
  100%.
• 1:15:45
  Speaking of formula cars, Jaguar!
• 1:15:49
  A name we haven't heard in Formula cars in quite a long while, because most of
• 1:15:53
  us don't pay attention to Formula E, where they have been spending most of
• 1:15:56
  their time since about 2017, focusing their attention on their Formula program.
• 1:16:00
  So Jaguar still relevant.
• 1:16:02
  You know, the last time I saw Jag was like, you know, the
• 1:16:04
  Eddie Irvine days of Formula 1.
• 1:16:05
  Formula one, you know, that kind of thing they have now launched their
• 1:16:09
  own racing channel on motorsports.
• 1:16:13
  tv dedicated to formula E.
• 1:16:15
  So if you really need something to put yourself to sleep, that
• 1:16:17
  is the channel to tune into.
• 1:16:19
  So check it out on motorsports.
• 1:16:21
  tv.
• 1:16:21
  You put it on and you hear the white noise of the tires.
• 1:16:24
  Cause all you hear is the tires.
• 1:16:25
  Oh God.
• 1:16:26
  It's brutal.
• 1:16:27
  And speaking of formula one, if you haven't seen on Netflix and you're
• 1:16:31
  interested, the drive to survive series.
• 1:16:34
  Season three released this month.
• 1:16:37
  I have to say watching the episode about BOTUS, I had, I was so sad
• 1:16:44
  for him when he won that race and all his people like dipped out.
• 1:16:48
  They're like, fuck you, man.
• 1:16:50
  We're not, we're not, we're not celebrating with you.
• 1:16:52
  You, you took that victory from Hamilton.
• 1:16:53
  We're not, we're not your friend.
• 1:16:55
  Formula one.
• 1:16:56
  I think it's a good series actually.
• 1:16:58
  So.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah, I don't have to watch the seat and watch the actual racing.
• 1:17:03
  I can just watch the series.
• 1:17:04
  It's riveting.
• 1:17:04
  I think the, the way they put the show together is actually very good.
• 1:17:08
  Maybe I'll give it a try.
• 1:17:09
  I haven't even bothered.
• 1:17:10
  I figured it was a bunch of guys goofing around in the paddock package,
• 1:17:14
  checking each other and just like,
• 1:17:17
  it's a documentary basically this season.
• 1:17:20
  They actually interviewed a lot more of the drivers.
• 1:17:22
  Like I think in season one, they didn't.
• 1:17:24
  Even talk to Hamilton at all.
• 1:17:26
  Like you would see footage.
• 1:17:27
  They talk about him, but like, they never interviewed him.
• 1:17:29
  It might have been season two,
• 1:17:30
  a little bit.
• 1:17:31
  Season one Ferrari wasn't even like, didn't even get permission to be in it.
• 1:17:35
  Yeah,
• 1:17:36
  but now it's, this season was
• 1:17:38
  actually pretty well balanced.
• 1:17:40
  They kept going back to the same races, but like every episode was
• 1:17:43
  basically like focused on a different team or a different set of drivers.
• 1:17:46
  And then it just kept kind of like recapping what happened to
• 1:17:48
  them in like the series of races.
• 1:17:51
  Really good job of pulling out the different storylines that you don't really
• 1:17:54
  think of when you're watching the race.
• 1:17:55
  And
• 1:17:55
  it's not just about the drivers.
• 1:17:56
  Cause they go and talk about like a lot of the interviews are with,
• 1:17:59
  you know, total wolf and you know, the Red Bull chief, yes.
• 1:18:05
  And you know, the guys from Ferrari and you know, the, the racing point.
• 1:18:09
  Scroll.
• 1:18:10
  And now they're not racing point anymore.
• 1:18:12
  And they're asking Martin blah, blah, blah.
• 1:18:13
  And they cover like all that stuff that went down and, you know,
• 1:18:16
  So does this series have to exist because the coverage of formula one is so myopic.
• 1:18:22
  They're only focused on Hamilton and the cars that are in the first,
• 1:18:25
  second and third position, and you never get to hear about the 20
• 1:18:28
  other drivers that are out there.
• 1:18:29
  Is that why?
• 1:18:30
  Probably, but I, I'm glad it does exist.
• 1:18:33
  And for Toto Wolf, I have a man crush on Toto Wolf.
• 1:18:36
  I'm just going to say.
• 1:18:38
  Oh my God.
• 1:18:39
  I think the guy, the Haas guy kills me.
• 1:18:42
  He's, oh
• 1:18:43
  yes.
• 1:18:43
  Gunther Steiner.
• 1:18:44
  Oh man.
• 1:18:45
  He would
• 1:18:47
  love him.
• 1:18:47
  It's the F word.
• 1:18:48
  Every other word.
• 1:18:49
  I'm like, dude,
• 1:18:49
  you need like communication skill, but Hey, you're good.
• 1:18:54
  You're getting it done.
• 1:18:55
  No matter what.
• 1:18:56
  Sorry.
• 1:18:56
  That like.
• 1:18:57
  You guys have the worst luck ever, but
• 1:19:00
  so, so Gunther, what happened in the race?
• 1:19:02
  Oh, we fucking socked.
• 1:19:03
  We fucking saw Jean.
• 1:19:05
  It's okay.
• 1:19:05
  You know, all these fuckers Jean
• 1:19:09
  after every race, immediately it cuts to him calling Jean house on the phone.
• 1:19:14
  It's like, Oh, did you see a Jean?
• 1:19:15
  These fuckers
• 1:19:19
  Roman Grosjean did it again.
• 1:19:21
  Oh, my goodness.
• 1:19:22
  Eric, you gotta go back and watch.
• 1:19:24
  Start in season one.
• 1:19:25
  It's really good.
• 1:19:25
  I'll have to check it out.
• 1:19:26
  Tom, do you have anything for,
• 1:19:28
  uh I haven't seen it, so I gotta check it out as well, so
• 1:19:31
  All right, you and me both.
• 1:19:32
  Viewing party, all right?
• 1:19:35
  Meanwhile, my favorite discipline in motorsport had some shocking
• 1:19:41
  news in the last month or two.
• 1:19:43
  Oh
• 1:19:43
  yeah.
• 1:19:43
  So the four rings are possibly making a return to rally.
• 1:19:51
  There's only like two people in this.
• 1:19:53
  They're excited.
• 1:19:54
  It's me and it's you and that's it.
• 1:19:58
  But it's not, but it's not Audi sponsored.
• 1:20:01
  So basically the two Swedish guys on behalf
• 1:20:04
  of EKS JC racing team, and they took an A1 and they basically ralified
• 1:20:11
  it and they want to enter it in WRC.
• 1:20:13
  So, I mean, I know I'm probably the only person that understands any of
• 1:20:17
  this, or hopefully there's some other rally listeners out there, Pete Klein,
• 1:20:20
  if you're listening, uh, So they're going to enter this privateer Audi,
• 1:20:25
  which is liveried, just like the famed S1 rally car that won Pikes Peak in
• 1:20:31
  back in 87, 86 driven by Bobby Unser, by the way, and Michelle Mouton.
• 1:20:35
  So they, they did it up in the same livery.
• 1:20:37
  It's an A1 Quattro.
• 1:20:39
  It's a 1.
• 1:20:40
  6 liter, 263 horsepower.
• 1:20:42
  Quattro all wheel drive, and they're going to enter in the WRC two class.
• 1:20:46
  So I hate to say coverage of WRC three.
• 1:20:49
  So WRC two and WRC three, I hate to say have probably the worst coverage
• 1:20:54
  out of all, because everybody wants to watch WRC one, the front runners,
• 1:20:57
  the, you know, the Oittanix, the Terry Neuville's of the world running the
• 1:21:01
  Hyundais and the Fords and all of that.
• 1:21:03
  If you log on to Red Bull, you can watch their progress.
• 1:21:07
  If you watch the individual driver progress, they may show it in the
• 1:21:11
  recaps because the car will be prolific.
• 1:21:14
  It's the first Audi to return to WRC since the 80s.
• 1:21:17
  But again, it's not a factory car.
• 1:21:19
  And obviously, Volkswagen Audi group returned to rally
• 1:21:22
  many years ago with the Polo.
• 1:21:25
  WRC with, you know, Sebastian and all those guys behind the wheel.
• 1:21:28
  So it's really cool to see this.
• 1:21:29
  However, I think the coolest part of this was the follow on video to the
• 1:21:33
  debut of this car, bringing out the real Stig, the original Stig, Stig
• 1:21:39
  Bloomfist, who is one of the world rally championship drivers from Audi
• 1:21:43
  to drive this new A1 Quattro rally car.
• 1:21:47
  And I tell you what.
• 1:21:48
  The Stig, he might not have the reflexes he had in the eighties.
• 1:21:52
  He might not be as fast, but watching him drive, you just sit back and
• 1:21:57
  he is so smooth and so composed, completely sideways, full open throttle,
• 1:22:04
  just having a blast in this car.
• 1:22:06
  And he looks like he's been doing it for a hundred years.
• 1:22:09
  And it's, it is just breathtaking.
• 1:22:11
  It's not a very long video, but it's definitely worth watching.
• 1:22:14
  And we linked to it in the show notes.
• 1:22:16
  Apparently, um, what he says at the end in his native tongue of
• 1:22:21
  Swedish translates to what a fucking fun car.
• 1:22:30
  I always liked Stig.
• 1:22:31
  He was the more, uh, he was the more playful of the Audi rally drivers.
• 1:22:35
  Everybody was very stiff.
• 1:22:36
  on that team for the most very talented folks.
• 1:22:40
  I me the rural stick Bloomfist et cetera.
• 1:22:45
  I mean, a bunch rally drivers came out of maybe audio return,
• 1:22:50
  you k out of IMSA basically.
• 1:22:53
  An gonna talk about that.
• 1:22:54
  We
• 1:22:57
  So speaking of pulling out and this speaks to Tom, I'm sure he's saddened
• 1:23:01
  by this, but Mazda has declared that they are done at the end of this season.
• 1:23:06
  They are pulling out of IMSA.
• 1:23:08
  A
• 1:23:08
  little disappointed.
• 1:23:09
  And, you know, kind of with, with that as well, you know, there was the talk
• 1:23:13
  of the rule changes of, Them actually allowing rotaries to be brought
• 1:23:20
  back into the competition as well.
• 1:23:22
  So I know at least for all those that don't know, I wouldn't say
• 1:23:26
  I'm the resident Rotard anymore because we now have Matt Wood, who
• 1:23:29
  has now purchased a FCRX7 as well.
• 1:23:33
  But you have more though.
• 1:23:34
  Well, it's debatable since the one we don't even know if it exists anymore.
• 1:23:40
  One's on a
• 1:23:41
  mechanics lien.
• 1:23:42
  Yeah.
• 1:23:43
  Unofficial mechanics lien.
• 1:23:45
  So, a lot of people in the Rotary community were very excited about this
• 1:23:49
  and, you know, it was the thought of, you know, are we going to get that 787
• 1:23:53
  Bravo again, you know, and actually have that competing at that level, you know,
• 1:23:57
  even within that as well, you know, was this the news that we needed to hear that
• 1:24:02
  they're going to be actually coming out with the RX Vision or, you know, What
• 1:24:05
  some people are calling the RX nine, you know, as we all know, Mazda is still
• 1:24:10
  looking at the Winkle rotary engine.
• 1:24:12
  All the patents that have been coming out have been just for range extenders.
• 1:24:16
  So this was kind of that glimmer of hope for us.
• 1:24:18
  So now with them pulling out, like it's kind of up at the top of that,
• 1:24:22
  uh, roller coaster, and now we're just crashing down to the bottom.
• 1:24:26
  You know, again, with that, try to remain hopeful with things,
• 1:24:29
  but we'll see where it goes.
• 1:24:31
  Yeah.
• 1:24:31
  And it seemed like Mazda just wasn't having it when it came to all these rule
• 1:24:36
  changes in the, in this alleged classing merge between Insa and WEC or WEC.
• 1:24:41
  They also didn't have anything to compete in the LMDH hybrid LMP class.
• 1:24:47
  That's basically going to be replacing LMP1.
• 1:24:49
  So I kind of felt like they were To your point, they were up against a wall
• 1:24:54
  and it was like, now what do we do?
• 1:24:55
  I guess we pull out a DPI.
• 1:24:56
  Isn't going to exist anymore.
• 1:24:58
  The class is going to change.
• 1:24:59
  It's almost like rebellion last year, going into P1 with a P2 car, let's
• 1:25:05
  face it, and then say, you know what, this isn't going to work anymore.
• 1:25:08
  I think we're going to see a little bit more of that until the
• 1:25:10
  manufacturers begin to turn over and bring in new cars, which speaks.
• 1:25:16
  to Ferrari.
• 1:25:17
  Most people probably are not aware that the 488's last race was the Rolex 24.
• 1:25:24
  So Ferrari has also temporarily pulled out of IMSA and has declared
• 1:25:29
  that they are coming back to compete in LMDH with a new hyper car.
• 1:25:34
  You know, if you read about it, there's really Zero details about
• 1:25:37
  what this LaFerrari LMP car is going to be, whatever you want to call it.
• 1:25:41
  There's a lot of nostalgia around the Ferrari 250s.
• 1:25:45
  And the reason being, if you're unaware, that was the last time Ferrari won
• 1:25:50
  Le Mans, which was actually in 1965.
• 1:25:53
  However, the last time they competed at Le Mans with an LMP car, not a
• 1:25:58
  production based vehicle like the 250 was in 1998 with the famed Momo
• 1:26:03
  liveried 3 33 sp So they're looking to recapture that and rekindle that.
• 1:26:08
  1998 was also the beginning of the, the era of the Mercedes
• 1:26:13
  C-K-G-T-R, the the B-M-W-L-M-R-V 12.
• 1:26:16
  The, the original Audi R eight R.
• 1:26:18
  You guys remember that was an open cockpit prototype car.
• 1:26:21
  So Ferrari really couldn't compete with the new technology was coming.
• 1:26:24
  But this new hypercar, they're gonna.
• 1:26:26
  Borrow technology from the production cars that they're
• 1:26:30
  building that do have the hybrid technology from formula one as well.
• 1:26:34
  So I would expect this to be a very similar to a formula one car with a body
• 1:26:39
  on it, which isn't too much of a stretch for Ferrari to do, but I'm excited to
• 1:26:43
  see Ferrari come back to Le Mans and it'll be right on time for the hundredth.
• 1:26:49
  Anniversary, which we hope to be at for that race.
• 1:26:53
  So that would be really cool to see them and Portia and a lot of these
• 1:26:56
  other brands that are going to be coming back to Lamont's by 2023.
• 1:26:59
  So that it's super exciting.
• 1:27:01
  Meanwhile, did anybody watch Sebring this weekend?
• 1:27:04
  I did.
• 1:27:05
  Yeah.
• 1:27:05
  And
• 1:27:06
  it was exciting in the last hour or so when Corvette got booted
• 1:27:10
  and got hit by that giant BMW.
• 1:27:13
  The school bus.
• 1:27:14
  I
• 1:27:15
  just, I meant to watch it.
• 1:27:17
  And I'm sure a lot of people did too.
• 1:27:19
  The track season has opened back up.
• 1:27:20
  So people have gotten busy again.
• 1:27:22
  So I'm, I'm, I'm using that as, as my excuse, even though I was doing
• 1:27:25
  something else, it just didn't draw me in because Rolex was kind of
• 1:27:28
  disappointing in the fact that the field has gotten so much smaller.
• 1:27:31
  So as much as I'm excited for the next two years of IMSA and the
• 1:27:34
  rule changes and all of that, this year just feels kind of meh so far.
• 1:27:38
  So I'm hoping it gets better, but I know that nobody's going to be introducing
• 1:27:42
  anything new because they have to declare that early in the season.
• 1:27:45
  And so.
• 1:27:46
  It's Corvettes season to lose in terms of GTLM.
• 1:27:51
  I guess you don't care about the, the shuffling of dates then for the MC
• 1:27:55
  season, because as we all know, or maybe we don't know where I'm done.
• 1:27:59
  You heard it here first folks, or whatever.
• 1:28:01
  The running of Lamont has been moved from June, which it's
• 1:28:03
  traditionally Father's Day weekend.
• 1:28:05
  It's been moved to August 21st, 22nd.
• 1:28:07
  Because of this, that shifts a whole bunch of EMSA dates around, uh, namely
• 1:28:12
  the, the VIR date and, uh, the Petit Le Mans, which is at Road Atlanta.
• 1:28:18
  VIR, which is usually in August.
• 1:28:20
  Is now being moved to
• 1:28:23
  October the
• 1:28:24
  8th, October 8th through 10, but see Lamar is being moved to a little bit later,
• 1:28:29
  November the 13th.
• 1:28:31
  Is
• 1:28:31
  that veterans day
• 1:28:31
  weekend thereabouts?
• 1:28:32
  Yes.
• 1:28:33
  And luckily in Atlanta, it'll still be warm enough to run the race.
• 1:28:38
  So moving it that far out is, is okay.
• 1:28:40
  But that means this NBC schedule has changed.
• 1:28:43
  I'm a little disappointed.
• 1:28:44
  I always look Forward to Lamont's being on father's day weekend.
• 1:28:48
  It's just kind of like my thing it's in August.
• 1:28:51
  I'm going to make a point to watch it anyway.
• 1:28:53
  I'm, I am excited to see who enters this year.
• 1:28:56
  I have a feeling Toyota is going to take the crown yet again.
• 1:28:59
  Hooray.
• 1:29:00
  We're going to be
• 1:29:01
  racing themselves.
• 1:29:02
  Who are they racing against?
• 1:29:03
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:29:04
  I want to see Corvette.
• 1:29:05
  Run in GTLM, even if it's against privateer Porsches, I want to
• 1:29:10
  see something happen in GTLM.
• 1:29:12
  But
• 1:29:12
  the Astons as well.
• 1:29:13
  So they're going to be Astons.
• 1:29:15
  And I mean, we all saw what happened when they ran against
• 1:29:17
  the Astons a couple of years ago.
• 1:29:19
  Exactly.
• 1:29:20
  So that's going to be the race to watch the rest of it.
• 1:29:22
  Yeah, whatever.
• 1:29:23
  We'll wait till 2023 when the new cars come out.
• 1:29:26
  Now a little bit of other racing news, since we were talking about IMSA and
• 1:29:30
  dates and to the 12 hours of Sebring, if you guys didn't catch this video that was
• 1:29:35
  going viral in at least the motorsports community, we linked to it in the show
• 1:29:39
  notes and it's the opening weekend for the Southern version of SCCA club racing
• 1:29:47
  series up here in the mid Atlantic and the DMV, we call it Mars down there.
• 1:29:50
  They call it the Sark.
• 1:29:52
  And there is a video of a Miata driver that would rival Most of our Forza
• 1:29:57
  contestants, it is absolutely insane.
• 1:30:02
  It's like
• 1:30:02
  opening 10 seconds and you get the whole gist of the video.
• 1:30:06
  You're just like, that's all I need.
• 1:30:07
  My first
• 1:30:08
  thought was Andrew Bank.
• 1:30:10
  This is not going to go well.
• 1:30:13
  And I guess he forgot how to drive.
• 1:30:15
  It is crazy.
• 1:30:15
  It is entertaining.
• 1:30:16
  I do not condone this behavior in any way, completely reckless, but I just can't
• 1:30:22
  believe, you know, that somebody would, would drive the way he did at Sebring.
• 1:30:26
  So at first I was actually thinking of, it wasn't that one, it was the
• 1:30:30
  other Miata video that somebody posted.
• 1:30:32
  The Wreck at Summit
• 1:30:33
  Point?
• 1:30:33
  Yeah, that one was insane as well.
• 1:30:36
  That's the one where the hood flies up, right?
• 1:30:38
  That's the one where the
• 1:30:39
  car flips over.
• 1:30:40
  Oh, right, right, right.
• 1:30:41
  So where he did the pit maneuver on the guy, cause he was like riding
• 1:30:44
  right on him, and then he pitted him, so that guy went right into the
• 1:30:48
  barricade, flipped over, and then hit a couple other cars behind him, so.
• 1:30:52
  That's the one with the cool music in the background?
• 1:30:54
  Yeah.
• 1:30:54
  Oh man, what a mess.
• 1:30:56
  Meanwhile, speaking of wrecks and crashes and bumping and grinding and shake and
• 1:30:59
  bake, there is a video that was also going around from the Mount Panorama 500
• 1:31:04
  where you get some goosebumps watching Slade's wreck in a factory Mustang.
• 1:31:10
  It's kind of cool to watch this not because of the wreck and the
• 1:31:14
  wreck isn't really that spectacular.
• 1:31:17
  It's just the fact that It was grabbed from every camera angle possible and you
• 1:31:23
  see it for every which way imaginable.
• 1:31:26
  And it's actually kind of cool to see how it unfolds.
• 1:31:28
  And he was very smart to pull off when he did lost the
• 1:31:31
  wheel, a bunch of other stuff.
• 1:31:32
  I mean, sad that he was knocked out of the race, but kind of,
• 1:31:35
  kind of an interesting video.
• 1:31:37
  If you like crash videos.
• 1:31:38
  But meanwhile, I think we have some sad news to report and
• 1:31:41
  I'll kick it over to Tanya.
• 1:31:42
  Yes, unfortunately, Motorsports
• 1:31:45
  World lost one of the greats, I guess if you will.
• 1:31:49
  Sabine Schmidt lost her fight with cancer earlier this month.
• 1:31:55
  So the queen of the ring And is no longer with
• 1:31:59
  us.
• 1:31:59
  That is a very, very sad day.
• 1:32:01
  And if you don't know who she is, there have been tributes all over
• 1:32:04
  Instagram, the web, drive tribe.
• 1:32:06
  I mean, you name it.
• 1:32:07
  We're going to post a video from Top Gear.
• 1:32:10
  Do you remember the transit van episode where Jeremy Clarkson competes
• 1:32:14
  in a Jaguar against a transit van?
• 1:32:16
  That was Sabine driving that.
• 1:32:18
  She's a fan.
• 1:32:18
  Factory Porsche driver.
• 1:32:20
  She's driven for BMW, a lot of other, you know, German brands, but she
• 1:32:23
  grew up at the Nürburgring and she, she did earn the title, the queen
• 1:32:27
  of the ring, and it is unfortunate to see her go at such a young age.
• 1:32:31
  She had such a long life still ahead of her.
• 1:32:32
  So,
• 1:32:34
  and that transit van video inspired numerous races in
• 1:32:40
  our virtual racing league.
• 1:32:42
  I mean, we don't go a season without having at least something.
• 1:32:46
  That is kind of inspired by that at the ring.
• 1:32:48
  And as we close out this episode of the drive through, we're going to wrap up
• 1:32:53
  here with some more local news and spread since you brought it up virtual racing.
• 1:32:56
  That's a great segue to go to Tom, to talk about the VRL.
• 1:33:02
  Yep, as we've talked about before, you know, VRL, the Virtual Racing League,
• 1:33:06
  is one of the, uh, original competitive events we've had here in the club and one
• 1:33:11
  of the longest running events as well.
• 1:33:14
  Just so everybody knows, we are looking to kick off our newest
• 1:33:17
  season coming up here May the 4th.
• 1:33:20
  But taking some stuff that we've learned from previous seasons.
• 1:33:24
  So two seasons ago, we had a Mazda spec series where we ran spec Miatas,
• 1:33:31
  as well as the formula Mazdas.
• 1:33:34
  And something we really learned from that series was just how
• 1:33:38
  closely the competition became.
• 1:33:40
  Granted, we still have our front runners and the mid pack and
• 1:33:44
  some people in the back as well.
• 1:33:46
  And then there's more of those.
• 1:33:47
  And then Andrew just somewhere and usually going into each of those groups.
• 1:33:53
  What we really learned is like each of those groups are having very competitive
• 1:33:57
  racing throughout the entire time and with last seasons what we did is we
• 1:34:02
  opened up the field a lot more and we had probably our most participation that
• 1:34:08
  at least I've ever seen within the VRRL.
• 1:34:10
  I can't speak for some of the earlier seasons and all but it definitely made
• 1:34:15
  things a lot more interesting having.
• 1:34:17
  a lot of people there.
• 1:34:18
  Granted, you're always going to have that chaos at the start, but
• 1:34:21
  once everything works its way past turn one, it was a lot of fun.
• 1:34:24
  And we threw a couple little things in there, uh, with that.
• 1:34:28
  Once again, we're teaming up with Garage Riot and we are going to be
• 1:34:32
  doing a open wheel formula season.
• 1:34:36
  And throughout this season, we are going to be taking different
• 1:34:40
  types of formula cars and using that as the basis for the race.
• 1:34:44
  And we're doing everything between Different eras of races.
• 1:34:49
  We're going to do a Senna Prost, also the Hunt Lada rivalries, really trying to mix
• 1:34:55
  up things, make it not so that anybody gets bored with the cars throughout
• 1:34:59
  the season or anything like that.
• 1:35:01
  We're mixing around so that we get a feel for all the different formula
• 1:35:04
  cars throughout the years of racing.
• 1:35:07
  So we're, we're definitely looking forward to that.
• 1:35:09
  Definitely looking for.
• 1:35:10
  as much participation as possible.
• 1:35:13
  I don't know if we'll ever be able to max out the limit on Forza,
• 1:35:17
  but here's to trying at least.
• 1:35:19
  And Tom, for those of you listening, he's part of the VRL committee.
• 1:35:22
  So there's a group within GTN that gets together and does all the, the
• 1:35:27
  planning, the logistics, the funding.
• 1:35:29
  The fighting, the debating, the voting, the bureaucracy that's
• 1:35:32
  involved in putting on these series.
• 1:35:34
  And I can't thank Tom enough for being a part of that and actually reinvigorating
• 1:35:38
  the BRL, because we had gone on a hiatus there right around series 10, 11.
• 1:35:42
  We weren't sure if we were going to continue.
• 1:35:44
  And Tom stepped up and said, Hey, we really need to get this going again.
• 1:35:47
  And it's brought some really cool ideas to the table.
• 1:35:50
  And with that, we're making some rule changes going into series 15.
• 1:35:53
  One of the rule changes, I don't know if it's necessarily a change, But
• 1:35:57
  it's an opening up of a previous rule.
• 1:36:00
  If you've ever done any of our VRLs, you know that we have implemented
• 1:36:04
  the Forza race regulations.
• 1:36:06
  Now, say what you will about it.
• 1:36:08
  Yes, it, it has some horrible, horrible moments.
• 1:36:13
  Track limitations are definitely not what are realistic within a real race scenario,
• 1:36:19
  but it's being applied to everybody.
• 1:36:21
  So it's leveling the playing field on a lot of it, but we can now set it
• 1:36:25
  so that you do not get disqualified.
• 1:36:28
  So we're probably going to see some extremely high scores by
• 1:36:33
  Andrew this season, as far as, uh, how many, how much time he is
• 1:36:39
  getting able to rack up on this.
• 1:36:41
  But if anybody would like to.
• 1:36:42
  You know, compete with him.
• 1:36:43
  That's also an option as well.
• 1:36:45
  I mean, he might have a
• 1:36:46
  prize
• 1:36:46
  for it.
• 1:36:46
  I don't know.
• 1:36:47
  That's true.
• 1:36:47
  He carries almost five minutes of penalty time between two series.
• 1:36:53
  It's an achievement there.
• 1:36:55
  But in addition to that, I mean, Tom, you're right.
• 1:36:57
  We instituted that penalty system.
• 1:36:59
  Lots of rule changes.
• 1:37:00
  We found ways to really lock.
• 1:37:02
  Down the way we do scoring and, and what we realized, I think, in
• 1:37:05
  designing series 15 and a lot of the debate we had was how do we give
• 1:37:09
  something back to the racing community?
• 1:37:11
  How do we encourage the middle of the pack and maybe the back of the pack
• 1:37:16
  to, you know, maybe fight for that extra couple of tenths of a second
• 1:37:19
  or whatever they're looking for.
• 1:37:20
  So I think we're instituting some new bonuses.
• 1:37:23
  We have some, what we call on target, you know, earnings kind of carrying over from
• 1:37:27
  our bracket series where we're using.
• 1:37:30
  Target lap times.
• 1:37:31
  And if you can get within a certain range of that target time, there's
• 1:37:34
  a bonus for that, there's actually a clean racing bonus now get through
• 1:37:38
  a race without carrying a penalty.
• 1:37:39
  There's extra credit for that.
• 1:37:41
  So we're looking to give something back because we found
• 1:37:43
  many ways to take points away.
• 1:37:45
  But we figured we needed to do a balance of power amongst the rules
• 1:37:49
  to give something back to the driver.
• 1:37:51
  So again, you know, thank you guys again for hashing that out.
• 1:37:54
  And I think the new rule book, which is going to be coming out
• 1:37:56
  very soon for everybody to review is pretty comprehensive and I think
• 1:37:59
  everybody will enjoy the changes.
• 1:38:01
  And it, it isn't even just for getting the points to the
• 1:38:04
  people that are in the mid pack.
• 1:38:06
  Another, one of the reasons that we did it is those people
• 1:38:09
  that are the front runners.
• 1:38:11
  Now, if they know they can potentially get extra points, they may even
• 1:38:15
  start detuning their vehicles.
• 1:38:17
  So they start pulling back a little bit more towards the pack.
• 1:38:21
  Then we try to get everybody within the same group.
• 1:38:23
  So to make more competitive racing.
• 1:38:26
  Absolutely.
• 1:38:27
  Tom, before we close out talking about the VRL, I think we need to just quickly
• 1:38:30
  recap VRL 14, series 14 for the folks that probably weren't tuning into the
• 1:38:35
  live stream to all the scoring updates, the new scoreboard, a lot of stuff
• 1:38:40
  that came out as a result of that.
• 1:38:41
  And, and the bigger thing about that was that was our first co sponsored series.
• 1:38:46
  We did that with Garage Riot, but we also did it in the name of.
• 1:38:49
  One of our members and their family, and we were raising
• 1:38:52
  money and awareness for lupus.
• 1:38:55
  We actually met our goal.
• 1:38:57
  We had a, uh, what did they call it?
• 1:38:58
  A blue bird fly in at the last minute and shore us up so that we met our
• 1:39:03
  actual goal of 2, 000 raised for lupus.
• 1:39:06
  So this member knows who they are, a round of applause for them.
• 1:39:10
  I won't, I won't single them out, but thank you for doing that.
• 1:39:13
  I know you're a listener of the podcast, so thank you so much.
• 1:39:16
  Again, this goes.
• 1:39:18
  to our member family as well.
• 1:39:19
  You know, we, we really appreciated being able to do this for you, being able to
• 1:39:24
  campaign, raise awareness for lupus.
• 1:39:26
  But I also want to congratulate Dave Scherf from our Southern States
• 1:39:30
  region for winning the series.
• 1:39:32
  He
• 1:39:33
  campaigned an LMP car for the most part.
• 1:39:35
  He also ran mostly for BMW during our DTM inspired series.
• 1:39:40
  But he did not win the LMP class title.
• 1:39:44
  His brother, Ben did.
• 1:39:45
  So congratulations to Ben from our Northeast region for capturing the LMP
• 1:39:50
  one title and a double congrats win to Jordan Furman of the Northeast region
• 1:39:56
  as well for capturing the R spec or GTLM title as well as the B spec title.
• 1:40:02
  But we had some really great showings.
• 1:40:04
  From new members, uh, Sean Roberts, who is also now on the VRL committee.
• 1:40:09
  He came to us by way of HOD and Garage Riot, a bunch of new people
• 1:40:13
  coming on board, things like that.
• 1:40:14
  But also I want to give a big shout out to Disco Don from our, our middle and
• 1:40:20
  West region for participating remotely.
• 1:40:24
  He couldn't be with us live due to work and scheduling conflicts.
• 1:40:28
  He utilized our phone in system and he managed and.
• 1:40:33
  Unprecedented sixth place overall finish just by nailing it in.
• 1:40:39
  So congratulations to Don.
• 1:40:41
  It's never been done.
• 1:40:42
  That is awesome.
• 1:40:44
  Absolutely awesome.
• 1:40:45
  Goes to everybody else that's out there.
• 1:40:46
  If you can't make up a race, remember, you can always make
• 1:40:49
  it up with our phone in system.
• 1:40:51
  And those details are in the new rule book.
• 1:40:53
  That's coming out outside of that.
• 1:40:54
  Some quick news for everybody's out there in GTM land.
• 1:40:57
  We do have a date for summer bash.
• 1:41:00
  It is going to be the weekend of July 30th through August 2nd.
• 1:41:04
  And now you're probably scratching your head going four days.
• 1:41:08
  That's right.
• 1:41:08
  Four days at summit point.
• 1:41:11
  We are joining forces with auto interests who you're going to hear
• 1:41:14
  about next week on the podcast.
• 1:41:16
  We're going to join up for their summer camp at summit point.
• 1:41:19
  That's going to be.
• 1:41:20
  Four days on three tracks for a low, low price.
• 1:41:24
  You can check out on their website, auto interest.
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  com.
• 1:41:27
  You almost
• 1:41:27
  fell for it.
• 1:41:28
  I almost fell for it.
• 1:41:30
  We will follow up with any promotional discounts, et cetera, for that
• 1:41:34
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• 1:41:35
  However, if you're interested.
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  At some point, they're giving anybody listening to this podcast,
• 1:41:42
  10 percent off by entering the promo code GTM at checkout.
• 1:41:47
  So that's going to be two days on Shenandoah circuit, April 24th, 25th.
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  You know, we want to always give a shout out to our friends at hpdejunkie.
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  com for always keeping the most up to date information about all the
• 1:41:59
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  And now Canada, I would sit here and rattle off events for April and May,
• 1:42:07
  but it's really not worth doing.
• 1:42:09
  Cause the list is long.
• 1:42:11
  Just go to the
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• 1:42:12
  Exactly.
• 1:42:13
  But the track season is heating up.
• 1:42:15
  There are events.
• 1:42:16
  All over the place throughout this early spring season leading into summer.
• 1:42:21
  If you want to go to the track, now is the time to sign up, get out there.
• 1:42:25
  Um, the track season started early this year.
• 1:42:27
  A lot of people, even in our area, we're starting in February.
• 1:42:30
  So if you haven't registered yet, check it out.
• 1:42:33
  A lot of new names.
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  Out there auto interest, just track it max speed.
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  There's a lot of great groups out there.
• 1:42:40
  You can hook up with your area all over the East coast and all
• 1:42:43
  over the country for that matter.
• 1:42:45
  So check out HPD junkie.
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  So we get a discount.
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  Meanwhile, our friends, Kip and Rick for the international motorsport
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  You know, every year they give away a car.
• 1:43:33
  It's a fundraising event to help the research center stay afloat.
• 1:43:38
  And they are doing another Corvette this year.
• 1:43:40
  It's a 2021 C8 Corvette.
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  Convertible this time instead of the coop.
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  It's longtime returning member, David Drew Andrews, star of
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• 1:44:27
  We got into a very technical episode about off roading and his Jeep commander and
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  There is also a special full length bonus.
• 1:44:38
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  And we talk about motor sports and a lot of other stuff.
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• 1:44:52
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  We also want to give a special shout out to longtime member, Rob Lors, who
• 1:45:23
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  Oh, so we'd also like to close out by giving a special thanks to our guest
• 1:45:44
  host for tonight, Tom Wendy for joining us this month, and we look forward to
• 1:45:48
  more guests hosts and later episodes.
• 1:45:50
  It was
• 1:45:51
  fun being here.
• 1:45:52
  And of course, we wouldn't be here today without.
• 1:45:57
  Is she our co host or our producer now?
• 1:45:59
  What, what is she?
• 1:46:00
  She's the executive producer slash co host slash
• 1:46:05
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• 1:46:07
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• 1:46:14
  Well, everybody, it's been a blast.
• 1:46:16
  Tom, we enjoyed having you here.
• 1:46:18
  We look forward to what's coming in the rest of season two.
• 1:46:21
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