Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Troy Jackson starts Maine Senate race at TREMENDOUS disadvantage
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- 0:00Speaker 1: New praise today for Main's freshly wnted Democratic Senate candidate.
- 0:04Speaker 1: One hundred days out from the midterms, former state Senator
- 0:07Speaker 1: Troy Jackson won the nomination to take on five term
- 0:10Speaker 1: Republican Senator Susan Collins. Today, key senators weighing in on
- 0:14Speaker 1: the nominee.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I think he's a strong candidate, and I think we
- 0:19Speaker 2: have an opportunity. And I think Senator Collins has backed
- 0:22Speaker 2: this president on all his stuff right every time it's mattered,
- 0:28Speaker 2: and we could have used her vote to really put
- 0:30Speaker 2: a check on this president.
- 0:32Speaker 3: She stood with Donald Trump.
- 0:33Speaker 4: I've known Troy for many years. What he understands that
- 0:38Speaker 4: the people of Maine are sick and tired of a
- 0:40Speaker 4: rigged economy. He's a working class guy. He's from the
- 0:43Speaker 4: working class. He is very articulate. I think he stands
- 0:47Speaker 4: an excellent chance to win.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Let's bring in former Democratic Missouri state representative and CEO
- 0:53Speaker 1: of Pine Street Strategies Don Calloway here in studio with me.
- 0:56Speaker 1: We have Democratic strategists and author of Jenna Arnold and
- 0:59Speaker 1: also Republican strategist and the most now political analyst, Susan
- 1:03Speaker 1: Dell Percy. Good to have you all here, Hey, John,
- 1:06Speaker 1: did Democrats make the right choice with Troy Jackson? Can
- 1:10Speaker 1: he handle the burden of convincing voters to stick with
- 1:13Speaker 1: Democrats despite the Grand Platner scandals.
- 1:17Speaker 5: There were not.
- 1:17Speaker 6: Many choices on the table. First of all, you have
- 1:20Speaker 6: to find someone who has the experience and the character
- 1:22Speaker 6: profile to be able to pull it off, but actually
- 1:25Speaker 6: who wants to do it with this very very compressed timeline.
- 1:29Speaker 6: Not much unlike the one hundred days that Kamala Harris
- 1:32Speaker 6: had to run. She could talk to him about what
- 1:34Speaker 6: that's like. So, out of a universe of extremely limited choices,
- 1:39Speaker 6: it does seem like former Senator Jackson is a capable
- 1:42Speaker 6: and competent character to be able to do it. But
- 1:44Speaker 6: we should acknowledge that he starts at a tremendous, tremendous
- 1:47Speaker 6: disadvantage because even in Maine, where people are extremely political
- 1:52Speaker 6: aware and active, he comes with less name recognition than
- 1:55Speaker 6: a multi term Senator Susan Collins. And we see that
- 2:00Speaker 6: the main is has that independent streak, so it's going
- 2:03Speaker 6: to be very, very hard to beat Senator Collins. And
- 2:06Speaker 6: it goes back to the choice that the main Democrats
- 2:09Speaker 6: made a year ago to pick Graham Plattner, who was
- 2:12Speaker 6: simply not prepared as a person of character or of
- 2:15Speaker 6: substance to be on this stage. So while former state
- 2:19Speaker 6: Senator Jackson seems to be a quality candidate and I'm
- 2:21Speaker 6: going to be hoping and supporting he wins, the disadvantage
- 2:25Speaker 6: that he's at goes back to the extremely poor decision
- 2:29Speaker 6: to put Graham Platner on that.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Platform, so Joan mention it there. He was a state
- 2:33Speaker 1: senator for a number of years, He has a lot
- 2:36Speaker 1: of Grand Pratner's Platner's rather progressive policies behind him. Is
- 2:41Speaker 1: this proof that this progressive wave is taking hold here?
- 2:45Speaker 1: And do you think he's going to be able to
- 2:46Speaker 1: harness the same kind of enthusiasm that Platner around his
- 2:50Speaker 1: controversies was experiencing.
- 2:53Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he will be. I mean, I think
- 2:55Speaker 7: it's important for Democrats not to mistake resolving this issue
- 2:58Speaker 7: issue as some sort of success. We still have to
- 3:00Speaker 7: be ten toes down on making sure that we're having
- 3:03Speaker 7: the conversations with people in Maine about why it's so
- 3:06Speaker 7: important to continue to put their problems at the feet
- 3:09Speaker 7: of Susan Collins, particularly because she's had how many terms
- 3:13Speaker 7: to be able to resolve this. I love that he's
- 3:16Speaker 7: a fifth generation lagger. I don't know any loggers. I
- 3:18Speaker 7: don't know how many logger candidates there's ever been, but
- 3:21Speaker 7: fifth generation seems profound. He can point to the fact
- 3:24Speaker 7: that hospitals have closed in northern Maine when people in Washington,
- 3:28Speaker 7: d C. Have gotten richer. So I think the conversion
- 3:31Speaker 7: will be helpful. But I think nationally Democrats need to
- 3:34Speaker 7: make sure they continue to put the pressure on that state.
- 3:36Speaker 1: So Susan Republicans are going to be spending massively to
- 3:40Speaker 1: help Senator Susan Collins keep her seat. How critical is
- 3:42Speaker 1: it for Republicans to first keep that seat?
- 3:45Speaker 3: And will money make the difference in this race?
- 3:48Speaker 1: Does it usually.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Great question?
- 3:51Speaker 8: I mean we can go back and ask ken dates
- 3:53Speaker 8: like Mike Bloomberg for president or Jeb Bush who ran
- 3:56Speaker 8: for president, how much money really mattered in the It's significant.
- 4:02Speaker 8: It does not mean you are going to win if
- 4:04Speaker 8: you have the most money.
- 4:06Speaker 3: That being said, I.
- 4:07Speaker 8: Think we have to look at the Republicans have to
- 4:10Speaker 8: be careful that when they're putting spending in they're going
- 4:13Speaker 8: to do it now. They're going to try and define
- 4:19Speaker 8: Troy Jackson as much as possible, as quickly as possible,
- 4:24Speaker 8: and that should.
- 4:25Speaker 3: That's where their job should be limited.
- 4:27Speaker 8: Because one of the reasons why Susan Collins has been
- 4:29Speaker 8: so successful is she's not a National Republican.
- 4:34Speaker 7: She is a.
- 4:34Speaker 8: Senator from Maine and her constituent services and her and
- 4:39Speaker 8: just her whole profile always goes back to doing a
- 4:42Speaker 8: good job for maynors and that's where she has to stay.
- 4:46Speaker 8: And if the National Republicans meddle too much in that message,
- 4:50Speaker 8: that can be problematic. Of course, now that we have
- 4:53Speaker 8: the change in the law as far as how money
- 4:56Speaker 8: can be given and we don't have to see the
- 4:59Speaker 8: separations as much with the packs and candidates, that will
- 5:03Speaker 8: also be significant because they can talk to one another
- 5:06Speaker 8: and really say, this is how we're going to win
- 5:09Speaker 8: this state and come up with a comprehensive strategy.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Okay, let's move to Georgia with you, Jenna. Senator John
- 5:17Speaker 1: Ossoff certainly leading right now is Republican opponent Mike Collins, Congressman,
- 5:21Speaker 1: former Commerce Converersman by almost double digits in a new poll.
- 5:25Speaker 1: What do you make of Osof's campaign so far? What
- 5:28Speaker 1: can Democrats learn from the way he's running it and
- 5:32Speaker 1: the way he presents himself.
- 5:34Speaker 7: I will be a broken record about this, probably in perpetuity,
- 5:37Speaker 7: that we cannot have a strong relationship with polls. Polls
- 5:41Speaker 7: I think sometimes give those of us who are concerned
- 5:43Speaker 7: and paying close attention to the headlines this like lean
- 5:46Speaker 7: back mentality. And while he's leading, he Mike Collins, who
- 5:51Speaker 7: is a deep throated mega. One of the points that
- 5:55Speaker 7: I think the Democrats need to be able to not
- 5:57Speaker 7: just take in terms of a strategy, but really own
- 6:01Speaker 7: an authentic way, is that the math has just not
- 6:06Speaker 7: shaken out for what this administration has promised this country
- 6:08Speaker 7: and the world. Frankly, and we can continue to point
- 6:12Speaker 7: to that have tariffs made any of us richer? Are
- 6:15Speaker 7: we in less remddling in less foreign affairs? Have our
- 6:19Speaker 7: grocery prices decreased? My cups of coffee have almost increased
- 6:24Speaker 7: by twenty five percent. So I think continuing to go
- 6:28Speaker 7: back to the math in a really nuanced way is helpful.
- 6:30Speaker 7: But I don't think we should try to pretend that
- 6:32Speaker 7: every candidate can show up in a very Clark Kent
- 6:35Speaker 7: style like as off Is and win over candidates. We
- 6:39Speaker 7: just need to go back to the books.
- 6:40Speaker 1: By the way, I said Collins was former, and I
- 6:42Speaker 1: got the Mike's confused. We got Michigan, Mike. I got
- 6:45Speaker 1: a lot of them out there, Mike Rogers. Anyway, So Susan,
- 6:48Speaker 1: in this new Emerson poll, voters preferred Democratic candidates of
- 6:51Speaker 1: Republicans nationally by eleven points with one hundred days to go.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Are Republicans on track to lose the Senate at this point?
- 7:00Speaker 3: The Senate?
- 7:01Speaker 8: I don't think so, not with Susan Collins still looking
- 7:05Speaker 8: very you know, very much alive and well and winning
- 7:09Speaker 8: re election. I agreed with everything Don said about assessing
- 7:12Speaker 8: that race. Without Maine, there is no chance. And then
- 7:16Speaker 8: you mentioned Mike Rogers in Michigan. Michigan is a state
- 7:21Speaker 8: that Republicans can actually flip.
- 7:24Speaker 3: So this is going to be a very uphill battle.
- 7:27Speaker 8: When we look at the states that Democrats have to
- 7:29Speaker 8: win to take the Senate, you're looking at.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Alaska, maybe, but tough Iowa. Again, these are all right
- 7:36Speaker 3: states that Donald Trump won with double digits. It is
- 7:39Speaker 3: going to be difficult. It doesn't mean it's impossible.
- 7:42Speaker 8: And that you know, polls, to Jenna's point, are simply
- 7:45Speaker 8: a snapshot in time, they're used mostly for pun raising,
- 7:48Speaker 8: my opinion, not to win elections, so things can look different.
- 7:52Speaker 8: But as we approach one hundred days, Alex, I don't
- 7:54Speaker 8: see where the Senate the map is right now that
- 7:59Speaker 8: Democrats pull up off.
- 8:01Speaker 1: So one last question to you this round dawn, with
- 8:04Speaker 1: the Georgia gubernatorial race much closer, Democrat Keisha Lance Bottoms
- 8:08Speaker 1: leading Republican Rick Jackson by just two points, and that
- 8:11Speaker 1: is within the margin of error. Five percent of the
- 8:13Speaker 1: voters are undecided. Can Democrats count on independence to swing
- 8:17Speaker 1: those undecided votes their way on election Day?
- 8:20Speaker 3: In the tight races across this country.
- 8:23Speaker 5: No, we can't count on independence to do anything.
- 8:25Speaker 6: That pole is essentially tied within the margin of error
- 8:28Speaker 6: by any numbers. Keisha Lance Bottoms, my dear, a Delta's assistant,
- 8:31Speaker 6: former mayor, you got to hustle this thing.
- 8:34Speaker 5: I mean, you are at the top of the ticket.
- 8:35Speaker 6: I know I'm not supposed to be breaking the fourth
- 8:37Speaker 6: wall and talking directly to the candidates, but no, go
- 8:39Speaker 6: for it.
- 8:40Speaker 5: You've got to hustle for.
- 8:42Speaker 6: Now, for one hundred more days, I'm hearing about the
- 8:44Speaker 6: disarray and some things happening in the campaign.
- 8:46Speaker 5: Maybe that's inside baseball. But you have the opportunity to
- 8:49Speaker 5: put a.
- 8:50Speaker 6: Very talented ticket on your back and carry this across
- 8:53Speaker 6: the finish line. Rick Jackson is no Brian Kemp, who
- 8:56Speaker 6: is very popular and very formidable. Donald Trump is very
- 8:59Speaker 6: unpoppus biller in Georgia, and Rick Jackson can be tied
- 9:01Speaker 6: directly to him. And oh, by the way, there is
- 9:03Speaker 6: an anti billionaire atmosphere all around the country.
- 9:08Speaker 5: Mayorland's Bottoms, please get back to Atlanta.
- 9:11Speaker 6: Get in the streets, get into Astel, get with the
- 9:14Speaker 6: barbershops and the people, and get this across the finish line.
- 9:16Speaker 6: There's a very talented ticket under the ballot under us off.
- 9:19Speaker 5: And Mayorland's Bottoms.
- 9:21Speaker 6: Tanya Miller running for ag But Keisha's got to get
- 9:24Speaker 6: down in the streets and hustle this thing for one
- 9:26Speaker 6: hundred days.
- 9:26Speaker 5: And I think we can do it in Georgia.