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ANOTHER SILICON VALLEY OUT OF AFRICA · Apostle Lazarus Femi

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Speaker 1: You're trying to architect something union, narity, what narrative about you?
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Speaker 2: We want to show people that it is possible to
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Speaker 2: build sovereign systems, and we want people to understand that
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Speaker 2: Africa in itself is powerful. The names we even put
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Speaker 2: are powerful and we shouldn't shy away from them.
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Speaker 3: On today's episode of the Classified podcast, we see it
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Speaker 3: with it Cannot Lager, the young director of marketing at
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Speaker 3: Terror Industries, an indigenous defense industry.
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Speaker 4: A defense and autonomous systems company currently managing over level
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Speaker 4: lars ASSECT.
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Speaker 1: I heard some of the guys that disorgan young people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, young, a team of young Africans building the continent's
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Speaker 3: largest defense technology.
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Speaker 1: Companies, and you guys are already building systems now chain
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Speaker 1: the African narrative.
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Speaker 5: Yes, the young African thinker navigating the intersection of technology,
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Speaker 5: power and purpose, one who isn't just riding the wave
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Speaker 5: of innovation, but helping design it's direction on the continent,
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Speaker 5: and who carries in his DNA the same nation building
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Speaker 5: fire as his father.
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Speaker 3: Professor bad Nagin, the legendary engineer and founder of geometric Power,
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Speaker 3: who has dedicated his life to solving nine years our crisis.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure many people don't understand and know what
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Speaker 1: is going on with your company you guys, what you
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Speaker 1: guys are doing a terror industries. I think it's about
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Speaker 1: to become the most mind blowing session we've had in
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Speaker 1: the class Right podcast and I wanted to run as
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Speaker 1: quickly towards going on right there.
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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Terror Industries is Africa's largest defense technology company where we
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Speaker 2: manufacture autonoment systems to help bring sovereignty in the defense
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Speaker 2: sector because we feel like that is going to be
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Speaker 2: the catalyst for industrialization. So we've been running for nearly
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Speaker 2: two years now and we've been building behind closed doors.
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Speaker 2: But also we've been working closely with businesses and the
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Speaker 2: governments around Nigeria and other African countries. Right now, we
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Speaker 2: have a factory in Abuja. I'm going to be explaining
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Speaker 2: to Ghana and some other African other countries.
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Speaker 4: We have a we have.
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Speaker 2: A global perspective essentially as well, apart from protecting Africa,
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Speaker 2: but also pushing Africa to a global sovereign entity or
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Speaker 2: to a global sovereign entity.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, when you talk about a global sovereign entity, you're
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Speaker 1: talking about the fact that we should not have to
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Speaker 1: as a continent as a people, depend on were standing
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Speaker 1: intervention for us to have our surveillance.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and our equipment yes.
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Speaker 1: So your company is this sourviillance based or general equipment.
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Speaker 2: So essentially TERROR is terror is built for the whole ecosystem.
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Speaker 2: So we have the software which is Atomius, and we
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Speaker 2: have a range of different hardware products ranging from areal
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Speaker 2: aerial systems to ground systems and even towers.
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Speaker 1: The aerial system is it surveillance or tactical engagement surveillance.
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Speaker 2: So right now we're focused mainly on surveillance to help
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Speaker 2: the backbone for operations, whether it's protecting critical infrastructure like oilanders, pipelines,
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Speaker 2: power plants, farms.
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Speaker 4: Borders, cities, roads, to.
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Speaker 2: Also working with the defense sectors and so on and
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Speaker 2: so forth.
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Speaker 1: I had some of the guys that disorganize you are.
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Speaker 2: Young people, Yeah, well young The average age in the
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Speaker 2: company right now is about twenty five twenty four. We
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Speaker 2: only we have like only one person who is maybe
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Speaker 2: above thirty, but most of the engineers, most of the team.
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Speaker 1: Also, one of the guys, man named the Drone, said
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Speaker 1: he's nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so that's our chief chief software engineer. So he's nineteen,
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Speaker 2: and our CEO of Nathan, he's just twenty two. And
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Speaker 2: then our CTO max Omerica is just about twenty four
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Speaker 2: and I'm twenty three.
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Speaker 1: And you guys are already building systems that will change
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Speaker 1: the African nrity. Yes, it means when you sat yesterday
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Speaker 1: in my class, you could relate to what I was
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Speaker 1: saying one hundred percent. What's the experience like For me?
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Speaker 2: It's been surreal and it's also been i would say,
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Speaker 2: very interesting because a lot of times people don't understand
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Speaker 2: what's happening behind closed doors. I didn't understand the reality,
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Speaker 2: you know. I like to think that especially narrative is
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Speaker 2: an infrastructure for narrative is a big is a big
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Speaker 2: asset to help push this.
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Speaker 1: Agenda.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this agenda.
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Speaker 2: And I think that a lot of people are in
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Speaker 2: their own perspective of reality, so they don't really understand,
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Speaker 2: you know. One of the points I mentioned was how
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Speaker 2: taking what should be abundant, you know, to mass to
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Speaker 2: mass to the masses. And I use an example which was,
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Speaker 2: you know, usually you spend billions of dollars to produce
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Speaker 2: a fighter jet or maybe a submarine for example. But
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Speaker 2: what the new age is bringing is a treatable systems,
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Speaker 2: autonomous systems in thousands millions potentially, because also not only
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Speaker 2: are you saving people's lives, but you're also using the
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Speaker 2: same impact for but with more systems that make sense,
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Speaker 2: so you have more eyes and ears on the ground
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Speaker 2: and for even protecting critical infrastructure. This is very essential
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Speaker 2: because they can never be enough.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: One of the biggest issues, just to say in Africa
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Speaker 2: or in Nigeria is maintenance. That maintenance culture. Surveillance also
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Speaker 2: plays a big part in that. How do you track
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Speaker 2: an asset and we use the power of history, how
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Speaker 2: do you track the lines? For example, when there's vandalisms,
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Speaker 2: if there's weather, how do you check whether there's a
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Speaker 2: k a grown tree? You know what what's currently is
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Speaker 2: being done is that you know, they use what they
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Speaker 2: call it, They use vehicles, they drive around the whole city,
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Speaker 2: they use bikes sometimes or they even walk into certain
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Speaker 2: areas like bushes, and you can eliminate all that with
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Speaker 2: a simple drone. You map out to what is already
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Speaker 2: there and you track the lines and you figure out, okay,
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Speaker 2: what is what are you looking for through the through
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Speaker 2: the AI that you've programmed it within it and you're like, okay,
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Speaker 2: so the drone season and it's like this is what
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Speaker 2: is an issue? And that way you're able to do
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Speaker 2: predictive analysis, so you're able to go to the field
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Speaker 2: before so before you get to the field. They already like,
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Speaker 2: you need this in this and these tools to be
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Speaker 2: able to solve this issue. And this can be done
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Speaker 2: in a range of different industries.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying people can't even see that in their
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Speaker 1: operating the room and then see exactly what's going on
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Speaker 1: with that critical infrastruture. Actually, and it means that your
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Speaker 1: drone has very strong zoom power.
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Speaker 4: Yes it does. Yes.
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Speaker 1: We're speaking to us the other time about energy. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and you seem to have very strong interest in that.
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Speaker 1: Your dad function in that sector.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So my father was the first person to bring
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Speaker 2: on an integrated privates our company that actually generates power
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Speaker 2: and distributes power. And this is located in Haba. It
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Speaker 2: was recently commissioned and it's been doing well. You can
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Speaker 2: you can go online and see what's the what you
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Speaker 2: call it. The reactions have.
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Speaker 1: Been what's the name of the company, Geometric Power, Geometric Power.
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Speaker 1: Your dad believes that we need hundred one hundred thousand
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Speaker 1: mega one thousand megaworks to sustain us as a country. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And then you say what we're currently using is about
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Speaker 1: tirteen thousand what.
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Speaker 2: We currently use in that jurist that we have an
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Speaker 2: installed capacity of about thirteen thousand, thousand, thousand megawats.
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Speaker 1: That's about ten percent.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but what we are currently using is four thousand
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Speaker 2: megawats we have. So essentially, what that just shows is
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Speaker 2: that imagine a country that is operating.
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Speaker 4: At such a high level.
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Speaker 2: We are one of the biggest countries in that we
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Speaker 2: are the biggest country in Africa and we are still
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Speaker 2: operating with this much power. Imagine if we're even able
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Speaker 2: to actually you've the thirteen thousand megawats, what we would
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Speaker 2: even do, talk less of the one hundred thousand megaworks.
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Speaker 2: So essentially there is a massive potential in this country.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, massive.
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Speaker 1: In this continent, in this continent as well. So with
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Speaker 1: the one hundred thousand mega what we're going to have
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Speaker 1: on in the power.
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Speaker 2: Yes, if the infrastructure is also maintained.
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Speaker 1: Like I spoke about, I mean, you have a very
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Speaker 1: strong broad up view of this because of your background,
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Speaker 1: your dad. What are the entrances to that.
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Speaker 4: In the power sector. I would say that.
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Speaker 2: The the mindset of the people is first, because firstly,
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Speaker 2: we didn't start off. You know, when you don't create
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Speaker 2: a boundary or you don't create a system at first,
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Speaker 2: sometimes people can take it for granted. So I think
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Speaker 2: that's ecosystem or industry with the end clire or the
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Speaker 2: end users have sort of taken it for granted and
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Speaker 2: we don't even understand to some degree in might city
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Speaker 2: and think, okay, what's wrong with paying for power? You know,
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Speaker 2: but a lot of people actually just you find a
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Speaker 2: lot of places where they bypass and you know it's so.
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Speaker 1: All those things have community, be.
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Speaker 2: Fair, they have a community effect, and it affects the
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Speaker 2: power industry and that's why there's also a lot of
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Speaker 2: debts because people are not paying. So I think we
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Speaker 2: need to be sensitized to understanding the need of what
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Speaker 2: this is going to do for us as a country
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Speaker 2: and as a continent. That power is essentially, like I
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Speaker 2: would say, one of the major backbones boosting industrialization.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to your organization that you're building the industries,
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Speaker 1: do you feel Nigeria has been come to see for
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Speaker 1: a building so.
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Speaker 2: Nigeria is Nigeria needs what we're doing right. It has
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Speaker 2: of course, like any company, there has been ups and downs,
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Speaker 2: but we've been able to conquer those. I would say
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Speaker 2: that it has taken a level of unconventional thinking and
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Speaker 2: process to get through this. Because the African ecosystem is
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Speaker 2: different to the West. The way we do business here
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Speaker 2: is very different. Already, there's a lot of risk, but
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Speaker 2: to be honest, it also gives us an avenue to
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Speaker 2: solve those problems. And what we've seen is actually the
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Speaker 2: government is willing to work with you if you have
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Speaker 2: the right solutions. And what tends to happen is a
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Speaker 2: lot of people when they're doing businesses or they have solutions,
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Speaker 2: they don't understand that it's not the same thing like
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Speaker 2: now in the West. You might have in America, you
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Speaker 2: might have an idea and the government may have resources
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Speaker 2: or investors may have resources to back that idea, even if.
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Speaker 4: It's on the paper.
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Speaker 2: However, in Africa it's a bit different. The way it
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Speaker 2: works is on how we've seen it works is you
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Speaker 2: need to prove a point, you need to show something.
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Speaker 4: You've got to make sure you've shown working exactly.
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Speaker 2: So what we've done, actually one of our models in
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Speaker 2: business in Africa is we provide you a pilot system
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Speaker 2: and in some situations it's for free. We say, okay,
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Speaker 2: this industry or this issue we're trying to solve is
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Speaker 2: so important that we will provide that pilot's solution so
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Speaker 2: that you see with your eyes how this is going
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Speaker 2: to play out, and you it's a no brainer. You're
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Speaker 2: going to understand that, Okay, this is what this works.
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Speaker 2: And also it's a totally different system than outside Africa,
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Speaker 2: so we have to be able to customize these systems
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Speaker 2: to match the environment. And I think that's one thing
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Speaker 2: we've been able to perfect to do well because most
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Speaker 2: of the time when we import, you know, we're big
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Speaker 2: importants in Africa, when we import systems specifically in surveillance
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Speaker 2: or defense, we actually they may not be able to
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Speaker 2: work very well with our currency, that ecosystem. So what
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Speaker 2: we're doing is trying to change the narrative and trying
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Speaker 2: to see, okay, what what's needed here? You know, how
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Speaker 2: can we you know, just in terms of even with
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Speaker 2: with the with the defense sector and so on, a
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Speaker 2: lot of times, like abroad, you're fighting in states that
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Speaker 2: is should I say everyone has intelligence systems in Africa,
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Speaker 2: A lot of times a certain group ors you know,
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Speaker 2: may not have you know, so much intelligence systems, so
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Speaker 2: you don't even understand their pattern. You know, how you're
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Speaker 2: going to fight someone is so and their patterns are
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Speaker 2: very they could be very radical. You know that you
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Speaker 2: don't understand where they're going, what drives them, you know,
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Speaker 2: those kinds of things. The supply exactly. So it's like
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Speaker 2: an asymmetric system here in Africa. So it's not conventional,
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Speaker 2: so we have to come with an unconventional systems.
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Speaker 1: I've seen you name some of your drones African names
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Speaker 1: like Euroco, Yes and some of that. Definitely, you're trying
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Speaker 1: to detect something, Yes, BENI narrative? Yes, what narrative are
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Speaker 1: you building?
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Speaker 2: We want to bring We want to show people that
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Speaker 2: it is possible to build sovereign systems and we want
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Speaker 2: people to understand that Africa in itself is powerful. The
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Speaker 2: names we even put are powerful, you know, and we
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Speaker 2: shouldn't shy away from them. And to be honest with you,
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Speaker 2: there has never been a problem with how we name
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Speaker 2: our systems and even with our investors. You know, everyone
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Speaker 2: is everyone understands to push the narrative because Africa needs
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Speaker 2: to embrace we need to embrace our culture.
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Speaker 4: And embrace what we have.
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Speaker 1: So do you sometimes feel that at some point there's
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Speaker 1: going to be foreign attempt to either stop you or
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Speaker 1: reduce the effect of what you're doing, because when you're
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Speaker 1: building this system, you're trying to quot Africa off certain
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Speaker 1: market and become the indigenous suppliers and manufacturers of these things.
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Speaker 1: Most times there are vibrations. Do you sometimes as a
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Speaker 1: company get scared of this? Does it even get your attention?
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Speaker 2: So yes, But at the same time, this is the
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Speaker 2: I'll say, this is one of also the things that
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Speaker 2: we have to understand that partnership is key, and partnership
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Speaker 2: needs to start earlier. So we feel like, oh, we
16:47
Speaker 2: have already started working with should I say, we're open
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Speaker 2: to working with people who have the same aligned goals
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Speaker 2: as us in Africa and you know, not coming to
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Speaker 2: take advantage, but we also understand that we have to
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Speaker 2: keep our sovereignty and our security and whatever we're trying
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Speaker 2: to build here in terms of we basically just we're
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Speaker 2: not closed out essentially, And just to give an example,
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Speaker 2: we recently have we recently got investment as well from
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Speaker 2: Western investors as well. But also we're opening up factories
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Speaker 2: even beyond We are open to open up factories even
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Speaker 2: beyond Africa if there is a need, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: We recently signed a partnership with a Saudi company, one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest steel manufacturing companies in Saudi, and essentially
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Speaker 2: we believe, okay, let me just use this model in
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Speaker 2: our company. We believe that everywhere we're going to go
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Speaker 2: into we like to work directly with either the government
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Speaker 2: or major companies in those in those sectors, in those regions,
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Speaker 2: so we don't have to go in there fully low
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Speaker 2: and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 1: We like to partner.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to partner so we're not closed off
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Speaker 2: to an aligned goal partnership, and we feel like there
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Speaker 2: is a lot of rule for that. So I think
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Speaker 2: that's one of the issues. Even in Africa, we sometimes
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Speaker 2: close ourselves off to understanding what's.
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Speaker 1: This partners I mean, what you're doing and the way
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Speaker 1: you sound, sincere solid, we have a clear mission in
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Speaker 1: front of you, and that the method you want to
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Speaker 1: use to achieve the vision. But we most also agree
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Speaker 1: that one of the problems to face in Africa inscruption,
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Speaker 1: which means that it's sometimes quite more lucrative that some
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Speaker 1: of these things are purchased outside Africa given for you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, certain things when we begin to
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Speaker 1: solve the problems locally. It means that some of these
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Speaker 1: things are going to be quite cheaper. Correct, so let
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Speaker 1: me say it already, it is already cheaper. So they're
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Speaker 1: going to be cheaper, and there might be no room,
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Speaker 1: no avenue for those who are curring it before, to
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Speaker 1: take so much from the government. Do you think sometimes
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Speaker 1: these may also form like a layer of restriction for
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Speaker 1: you in terms of dealing with certain government of certain
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Speaker 1: African nations whereby the middle men get to just you know,
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Speaker 1: stop the old thing and you don't get to have
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Speaker 1: your way to So.
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Speaker 2: I think with that solving that will be having more
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Speaker 2: of an overwhelming side that believes in the idea, yeah,
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Speaker 2: than the other side. And to be honest, that's what's
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Speaker 2: happening right now, we see a lot of We see
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Speaker 2: a lot of people in the in the nation and
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Speaker 2: in Africa who believe in us, who see the vision
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Speaker 2: and even the government. To be honest, do you understand
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Speaker 2: what we're trying to do and they're here to partner
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Speaker 2: with us, And it's it's too obvious. It's one of
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Speaker 2: those situations that it's too obvious to deny. So it's
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Speaker 2: not hidden, it's a very clear. It's like it's you
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Speaker 2: can't do without it now. So we are here to
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Speaker 2: stay and we're here to work with What did you say?
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Speaker 2: This said the question side question software engineering. My head,
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Speaker 2: this is just bozzling right now. I'm trying to put
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Speaker 2: many things together. The matter is not Matten.
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Speaker 1: Some of the guys that lead these very great company
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Speaker 1: we want to get into the valuation. Is he out
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Speaker 1: there the valuation of the company? Okay, right too, But
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Speaker 1: this is a multimillion dollar yes, world organization, and some
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Speaker 1: of these guys are not even graduate. Yeah, how is that?
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Speaker 4: I think?
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Speaker 1: So you have nineteen year old, yes, you have twenty
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Speaker 1: two year old, Yes, you are twenty three. Yes.
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Speaker 2: So my CEO is Nathan Machuco. He started his first
21:15
Speaker 2: company at the age of seventeen class and he.
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Speaker 4: Saw space.
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Speaker 2: One thing I know about him is he's been able
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Speaker 2: to find unique spaces and building them. So he built
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Speaker 2: an education technology company education. Yeah, a danger seventeen during
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Speaker 2: the COVID period, which is very needed because everybody was
21:38
Speaker 2: indoors and learning as well.
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Speaker 1: You were seventeen during COVID period.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So after that he wanted to do something to
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Speaker 2: build industries and him and Max came across each other.
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Speaker 2: Max on the other hand was one of the youngest
21:56
Speaker 2: engineers in the naval base, and he was a brilliant engineer,
22:03
Speaker 2: and they came together to create terror Actually before it
22:08
Speaker 2: was called terror Haptics, where we are still the call
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Speaker 2: Terra Haptics essentially, but our larger name is Terror Industries
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Speaker 2: because we felt like we wanted to showcase.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to.
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Speaker 1: Get some things because for you to be a smart engineer,
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Speaker 1: people you study software engineering. Yeah, so you know the
22:27
Speaker 1: things you had to go through the lego to learn
22:28
Speaker 1: certain things this hard way. Also that it's there. I'm
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Speaker 1: just thinking in my head, people have to learn these things.
22:37
Speaker 1: Capacitians study about trials, diodes and all these things. You
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Speaker 1: understand the figures are these balances, these these are things
22:45
Speaker 1: you learn advanced learning. How is it that someone wouldn't
22:50
Speaker 1: get academic exposure to these things. He's doing all this stuff.
22:55
Speaker 2: It's available to us. But it's also about you know,
23:04
Speaker 2: there's something about you don't what you don't see, you
23:07
Speaker 2: can't you know, you can't put together like so there
23:11
Speaker 2: are certain things about exposing your mind, you know, trying
23:17
Speaker 2: to push the boundary so innately as well. I'll say
23:21
Speaker 2: it's an innate thing in So one thing I'll say
23:25
Speaker 2: is we'll found a community of people with the same
23:30
Speaker 2: like mind like mindedness. It's very difficult to do this
23:33
Speaker 2: because working with people is one of the I'll say,
23:37
Speaker 2: one of the hardest things to do the organization to build.
23:42
Speaker 2: But this is something we've been able to do. You
23:46
Speaker 2: need to find people who So we are people who
23:50
Speaker 2: generally we love to research. We love to go into
23:55
Speaker 2: things that you know, how do we expose ourselves, how
23:58
Speaker 2: do we understand how systems work? Speaking on the engineering side,
24:03
Speaker 2: I'm not deep into hardware engineering, however, of course because
24:06
Speaker 2: of what I'm doing, I understand what's happening. However, it's
24:12
Speaker 2: basic principles. And let me put it this way. Nathan
24:15
Speaker 2: a CEO, likes to talk about the essence of first principles,
24:22
Speaker 2: and it's the principle of stripping down everything to the
24:26
Speaker 2: basic core. And you'd be surprised that a lot of
24:29
Speaker 2: people don't think this way because we like to overcomplicate situations.
24:34
Speaker 2: And it's using physics as well. So that first principle
24:39
Speaker 2: solution is what we've been able to use to build
24:43
Speaker 2: this company. And what he saw, what they saw was
24:46
Speaker 2: that what is the core? What is that one thing?
24:50
Speaker 2: It's not about what is the five things? Because if
24:53
Speaker 2: you look at it, there's so many different things or
24:55
Speaker 2: catalysts or solutions that you can build in different sectors
25:00
Speaker 2: US and especially in our sector. But it's like, what's
25:04
Speaker 2: the one thing and what's the one thing that you
25:05
Speaker 2: can do with excellence? So it's not about the flashy things.
25:09
Speaker 2: It's about what's the core hard thing or what's the
25:11
Speaker 2: core not the core hard things, specifically, what's the core first.
25:15
Speaker 4: Step you can do?
25:17
Speaker 2: And that is where I would say a lot of
25:20
Speaker 2: the people that we work with in our comedy engineers
25:23
Speaker 2: as well, they think with that, with that first principles perspective, Okay,
25:28
Speaker 2: how do you solve an issue? Okay, you need to
25:30
Speaker 2: get this, you need to get that. What's the first step?
25:33
Speaker 2: And then you build on top of that.
25:35
Speaker 1: I also heard that you're aiming to through your surveillance system,
25:39
Speaker 1: reduce the casualties we're having the military. Yeah, are you
25:45
Speaker 1: looking forward to a time that we don't have to
25:47
Speaker 1: deploy so many soul as well? We can get the
25:49
Speaker 1: robots and order to get.
25:50
Speaker 4: The job done for yes?
25:53
Speaker 1: Is it? Does that also mean that at some point,
25:55
Speaker 1: you're going to do beyond the sorbil as to tactical engagement.
25:58
Speaker 1: We're looking at practically webon development.
26:00
Speaker 2: So for now we are staying away from kinetics or
26:05
Speaker 2: attack systems yea, and we're our main focus is on
26:11
Speaker 2: surveillance because to be honest with you, that is where
26:15
Speaker 2: we are lacking. You know, Africa already has actually enough
26:21
Speaker 2: systems to combat terrorism. The system we have enough, whatever
26:28
Speaker 2: we have here right now in Africa is enough in
26:31
Speaker 2: terms of you know, like you said, firepower and so on.
26:33
Speaker 2: So the solovisions are going to stop getting.
26:37
Speaker 4: More of this.
26:37
Speaker 2: The SOLVI is to figure out, Okay, how do you
26:40
Speaker 2: plan a mission that could take months to just a day.
26:45
Speaker 2: And these are the solutions that were solving because okay,
26:48
Speaker 2: how do you find people? How do you understand like
26:53
Speaker 2: I said, like people's patterns, you know, whether you're protecting
26:57
Speaker 2: a critical asset or on the front lines.
27:00
Speaker 1: And that's that's what elite military study. When you want
27:06
Speaker 1: to engage the terrorists, it's not about non engagement. You
27:10
Speaker 1: want to study their route, you want to study their
27:13
Speaker 1: supply chains, you want to study their movements, you want
27:16
Speaker 1: to study they demitte pattern of everything that they do.
27:20
Speaker 1: I saw one of these videos by the MOZAD while
27:26
Speaker 1: they were explaining how they were able to eliminate one
27:29
Speaker 1: of the terror leaders in one of those countries. And
27:35
Speaker 1: what they did was that for like some months they
27:40
Speaker 1: were sur willing this pattern. When it closes, whereas breakfast,
27:46
Speaker 1: the reality takes it also serious that they have been
27:50
Speaker 1: able to see that there's a portal not too far
27:54
Speaker 1: from his house that is going to stop. They're going
27:57
Speaker 1: to slow down at that portal. They study the distance
28:02
Speaker 1: they move with their vehicle, and then they studied the speed. Sorry,
28:07
Speaker 1: they moved their vehicle and they started the speed around
28:09
Speaker 1: that porto and that was exactly where they were able
28:12
Speaker 1: to get a robot and I'm the robot but not
28:19
Speaker 1: man that shot at the vehicle and exploded that vehicle
28:25
Speaker 1: without anyone being there. So what you're saying, I think
28:29
Speaker 1: for most people who probably have not probably maybe I
28:31
Speaker 1: have not even looked into the combat system and what
28:34
Speaker 1: was going on, they probably not even understand that once
28:37
Speaker 1: you can solve surveillance to solve many things. Exactly you look,
28:40
Speaker 1: you look out of partners with many African countries, Yes,
28:43
Speaker 1: a far doing time to go with African government.
28:47
Speaker 2: In terms of how many or skill or how far.
28:50
Speaker 2: In terms of what we are doing for them.
28:52
Speaker 1: I'll fine. In terms of what you're doing for.
28:54
Speaker 4: Them, we think that as a lot.
29:00
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, let me give a few examples. One of
29:07
Speaker 2: the biggest issues we have in Africa is border security. Yeah,
29:11
Speaker 2: border control. You know, we have a lot of people
29:14
Speaker 2: coming in from different states we don't even know. And
29:18
Speaker 2: one of our systems is it's called the central tower
29:23
Speaker 2: is essentially a camera should I say camera tower that
29:30
Speaker 2: you can deploy over several kilometers. Now, each system or
29:35
Speaker 2: each tower has a five kilometer range.
29:38
Speaker 4: No way, so you can you can see, yes, so
29:43
Speaker 4: you can you place it.
29:45
Speaker 2: Let's say you place you want to place it on
29:47
Speaker 2: the surround let me just use maybe between Abuja and
29:52
Speaker 2: another state, just is just a small case, you know,
29:55
Speaker 2: or maybe within Nigeria and another country. You rather than
30:00
Speaker 2: trying to build any cement wall or anything, you basically
30:04
Speaker 2: have it pieced, sorry, have it pieced every every five
30:10
Speaker 2: kilometers because that's if cost. That saves cost now. But
30:13
Speaker 2: then also it works like a geofencing wall. So anybody
30:18
Speaker 2: that passes that will be caught, will be seen that
30:22
Speaker 2: it will be seen. But also before you even get there,
30:25
Speaker 2: you're already been seen, you know, so you're able to
30:28
Speaker 2: geofence your assets or geofensic country to help secure it's borders.
30:34
Speaker 1: So why do you say before it even't gets there
30:36
Speaker 1: being seen? Is there like emotional sensor.
30:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a motion sensor. There's different sensors attached. The
30:40
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about what we do is that we're also manufacturers,
30:45
Speaker 2: so we're able to manufacture these systems to tail and
30:49
Speaker 2: tailor towards whatever contract or whatever system or whatever we're
30:54
Speaker 2: trying to solve. So if it's road management is a
30:57
Speaker 2: bit different. If it's border control, it's a bit different.
31:01
Speaker 2: So there's a lot like you mentioned in the own countries,
31:04
Speaker 2: so down from borders to protecting critical assets because a
31:08
Speaker 2: lot of times we forget that in any situation, it's
31:13
Speaker 2: our critical assets that will be targeted. So we need
31:16
Speaker 2: to be able to secure these assets to the best
31:19
Speaker 2: of their ability and also monitoring understanding how they can
31:23
Speaker 2: also be improved and worked on. So rather than even
31:27
Speaker 2: just all about surveillance for any should I say, vandalisms
31:33
Speaker 2: or so on, or even and this is for critical
31:36
Speaker 2: assess that I'm talking about even like as pipelines, so
31:39
Speaker 2: on and so forth. We develop, we can develop our
31:43
Speaker 2: systems to be able to understand how to should i say,
31:49
Speaker 2: monitor assets properly?
31:51
Speaker 1: You know.
31:51
Speaker 2: So it's very tailored to whatever system we're trying to
31:55
Speaker 2: sort or whatever issue we're trying to solve.
31:57
Speaker 1: There, I am asking that private in the.
31:59
Speaker 4: Bidos pattern, Yes, like private companies you mean evenness.
32:06
Speaker 2: So right now we are we're focusing on large industries
32:12
Speaker 2: because we want to be able to push in like continent.
32:15
Speaker 4: Yeah.
32:15
Speaker 1: Two of your drones are like planes.
32:17
Speaker 2: Yes, can I buy so not as big as planes?
32:21
Speaker 1: I definitely. I'm talking about the ship.
32:22
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. If if there's something you want.
32:26
Speaker 1: To it is it like a law in Nigeria that
32:29
Speaker 1: pretty bat or the little bit silent about it.
32:33
Speaker 2: So of course you might you might need to have
32:36
Speaker 2: your own license to be able to flyes, aerial space
32:42
Speaker 2: regulations and so on and so forth. So there is
32:45
Speaker 2: those laws and regulations in place. It's just to figure
32:48
Speaker 2: that out and understand. If you have an entity, let's
32:51
Speaker 2: say you want to protect, then that's also something that's
32:54
Speaker 2: a bit different. Maybe we can now come in so
32:57
Speaker 2: the beautiful things that we are able to assist. We
33:01
Speaker 2: can send let's say you want to Let's say you
33:04
Speaker 2: have a mind, for example, and you want to be
33:08
Speaker 2: able to protect this mind, you know, so we can
33:11
Speaker 2: sell for deployed engineers to be able to support.
33:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that releases the stress of you having
33:17
Speaker 4: to hire and is integrated.
33:21
Speaker 2: Yes, So our systems come fully with our automist software
33:25
Speaker 2: which allows you to survey what you want to survey.
33:30
Speaker 2: Let me use an example. Even in the mining industry,
33:32
Speaker 2: if you want to if you want to explore, you know,
33:37
Speaker 2: you want to see where where's where are areas where
33:41
Speaker 2: you can find more of the raw materials you're mining.
33:45
Speaker 2: These are systems that can now be also customized to
33:48
Speaker 2: help you with that, you know, sorry, with detecting more
33:54
Speaker 2: raw materials.
33:56
Speaker 1: No way for surveillance.
33:58
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.
33:59
Speaker 1: It's in many places for you to detect our materials,
34:02
Speaker 1: you need to some bagients and take certain things. I
34:05
Speaker 1: know they are visible signs. Yeah.
34:07
Speaker 2: So essentially what I'm trying to say is, for example,
34:09
Speaker 2: that's why our systems are different.
34:11
Speaker 4: We have the area systems that we also help the
34:13
Speaker 4: ground systems.
34:14
Speaker 2: Now these ground systems can be model that they can
34:17
Speaker 2: be different like in the my industry. Like I'm saying, okay,
34:23
Speaker 2: let me use this example for IDs for example detecting
34:27
Speaker 2: bombs and so. Yeah, these are systems that once they
34:32
Speaker 2: go to a certain point, they can detect a mind
34:36
Speaker 2: that is almost that's quite deep into the ground.
34:39
Speaker 1: So your sobilance systems can detect minds, yes, land minds. Yes,
34:46
Speaker 1: that's the ground sobilance systems.
34:47
Speaker 4: Yes.
34:48
Speaker 2: So you can now use that for different industries if
34:53
Speaker 2: that makes more sense.
34:54
Speaker 4: So yeah, I.
34:56
Speaker 1: Mean that that's that that makes all the sense because
34:59
Speaker 1: it means that so as you know, we were protected,
35:01
Speaker 1: yes are you have the Nagerian government patronized with it.
35:06
Speaker 2: So we are currently working closely with the Nigerian government.
35:09
Speaker 2: We have a few potential partnerships that are going to
35:12
Speaker 2: do now is very soon, but I think it will
35:17
Speaker 2: be best for the windows are being announced. You would
35:19
Speaker 2: understand the scale and what we're trying to do. But yes,
35:21
Speaker 2: they are patronizing and they're in full support of what
35:24
Speaker 2: we're doing.
35:25
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have many products that you have not
35:27
Speaker 1: even yeah talking about, most of some of which maybe
35:31
Speaker 1: you are not permitted to talk about yet. Yes, and
35:36
Speaker 1: all the ones we've talked about are they the ones
35:38
Speaker 1: only that you have at moments?
35:41
Speaker 2: So we're currently we still do a lot of research
35:43
Speaker 2: and developments, but right now, yes, we have our area systems.
35:48
Speaker 4: We have the ground systems which includes the.
35:51
Speaker 2: Ground drones, the towers, and we have our rapid response drawn.
35:55
Speaker 2: So the one that says that looks like the plane
35:59
Speaker 2: has about four hours match flights, So you can fly
36:02
Speaker 2: that drone for about four hours and you can stop
36:05
Speaker 2: the batteries.
36:06
Speaker 1: How far can they move away from the control from
36:08
Speaker 1: the control.
36:09
Speaker 2: The controller, so it has it's one undred kilometer range.
36:18
Speaker 1: Ah that hold on the minute. That simply means that
36:24
Speaker 1: you can practically stand in a place like and fly
36:30
Speaker 1: this drone to legos while controlling from me. It means
36:36
Speaker 1: that you can stand in a place like, let's Saya
36:42
Speaker 1: and fly this drone to almost get into canoe and
36:50
Speaker 1: everything is locally made. Your decision to work with African
36:55
Speaker 1: or Africa or African leaders, is this something you may
37:00
Speaker 1: subject to review at some point, maybe if you find
37:03
Speaker 1: out that Africa is not responding the way should.
37:07
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
37:08
Speaker 2: I think that, like I said before, it is a
37:13
Speaker 2: matter of it's a critical issue for you, even not
37:17
Speaker 2: even for us that even the leaders see and I
37:20
Speaker 2: think they've taken it as a something that is going
37:26
Speaker 2: to They understand the process, they understand the plan, So
37:30
Speaker 2: I doubt that there would be that kind of shape
37:33
Speaker 2: of the always going to be.
37:35
Speaker 1: I mean, I get some of the things to say,
37:36
Speaker 1: you've mastered partnership. Yeah, I'd like to have a time
37:41
Speaker 1: where I can sit with like with the board and
37:44
Speaker 1: the team and we kind of dive into some of
37:47
Speaker 1: the conversations. I'm here, I'm just trying to wonder what's
37:50
Speaker 1: going on you guys head, what kind of guys at this?
37:53
Speaker 1: Do you think that you're brnding has played a very
37:55
Speaker 1: important role in putting you where you are right now.
37:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you mean for all of us or
38:01
Speaker 2: me personally, let's start with you. Yes, I think I've
38:07
Speaker 2: always seen the harder issues in life. I've always been
38:13
Speaker 2: desperate to understand what can be done, why, why are
38:16
Speaker 2: things the way they are? And seeing my parents seeing
38:24
Speaker 2: what they've done, seen being able to understand, and we
38:28
Speaker 2: were taught from a young age to be very aware
38:32
Speaker 2: and to think outside the books that some things may
38:35
Speaker 2: not be as they see. But also one thing I'll
38:39
Speaker 2: say is integrity. My father likes to say, you can
38:42
Speaker 2: literally sell integrity as a currency. Oh yes, social capital exactly.
38:48
Speaker 2: And that's one thing integrity being genuine. And to go
38:55
Speaker 2: back to what you're saying, it goes back to us
39:01
Speaker 2: because a lot of times, with what kind of things
39:03
Speaker 2: we're doing and the kind of things we plan to do,
39:07
Speaker 2: and even me personally, a lot of times you need
39:11
Speaker 2: to be trustworthy, you need to be genuine in fact
39:14
Speaker 2: all times.
39:15
Speaker 4: And so it goes back to this because you're the
39:19
Speaker 4: story matters.
39:20
Speaker 2: And I like the fact that you mentioned the background
39:22
Speaker 2: because I have this model essentially which is called scale
39:27
Speaker 2: and the model is essence for story. See, so C
39:32
Speaker 2: is two things. But today I'm going to see can
39:35
Speaker 2: be clarity. But today I'm going to say CE is
39:38
Speaker 2: capital because I'm going to talk about it uses for industrialization.
39:42
Speaker 2: So story capital adoption is adoption, L for leverage and expansion.
39:51
Speaker 4: So these are my personal.
39:55
Speaker 2: Points that I feel like, if you're building in Africa today,
39:59
Speaker 2: you need to understand these things. What is your story?
40:03
Speaker 2: Like what makes you the right person to do what
40:05
Speaker 2: you're doing? It's what everybody that's the right person to
40:08
Speaker 2: be doing what they're doing and if sometimes they find
40:10
Speaker 2: it too late. And sometimes it's a blessing to fail
40:13
Speaker 2: early to start something. Yes, it's good to start, but
40:16
Speaker 2: also to fail early and see, okay, is this what
40:18
Speaker 2: I should be doing or not doing? Going on to capital,
40:23
Speaker 2: capital is very essential. But we in Africa sometimes there's
40:28
Speaker 2: a quote that capital is shy. Money is shy. Capital
40:33
Speaker 2: goes to it goes where there is security, where it
40:39
Speaker 2: feels safe. You know, so a lot of times in
40:42
Speaker 2: Africa we have because of the high level of risk
40:46
Speaker 2: in the business society, capital is sometimes is very shy.
40:51
Speaker 2: So looking at it from that perspective you're putting, you know,
40:55
Speaker 2: how do you raise how do you understand the ecosystem?
40:58
Speaker 2: And it has affected a lot of companies to be honest,
41:00
Speaker 2: But like I said, we are making progress. But capital
41:04
Speaker 2: is very essential. Adoption is your product being able to
41:09
Speaker 2: be adopted? Who are you catering to? If you're building
41:13
Speaker 2: in any space, you know, what are you doing and
41:17
Speaker 2: how is it going to be taking on like the
41:20
Speaker 2: end user? Yeah, leverage of course, you know, what are
41:24
Speaker 2: you what do you have to you know, if it's
41:28
Speaker 2: if it's a B to B company or to see
41:31
Speaker 2: what are you leveraging on leveraging on the you know,
41:35
Speaker 2: the issues we have right now and how you want
41:37
Speaker 2: to solve them. And of course expansion. We need to
41:40
Speaker 2: think bigger than the way we already think. We need
41:43
Speaker 2: to understand that there is more to what's around us,
41:47
Speaker 2: there's more beyond the box, you know, and expand, scale, expand,
41:52
Speaker 2: scale and expand.
41:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just realizing that a conversation yesterday in
42:03
Speaker 1: the mentorship class must have been very You must have
42:06
Speaker 1: read it differently, yes, because we interpret things based on
42:11
Speaker 1: where we're in life. And I thought that when you
42:15
Speaker 1: want to move from scarcity to world, you are not
42:18
Speaker 1: thinking about self. You're thinking about making what is cast
42:21
Speaker 1: available for many people. And I said that when you
42:23
Speaker 1: enter into the frequency of God as a divine being
42:28
Speaker 1: who has a different code of intelligence, and that's exactly
42:31
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You know, Oh, what do you feel
42:45
Speaker 1: when you look at the things you've done at this
42:47
Speaker 1: young age?
42:52
Speaker 2: I think that it makes it There is a level
42:59
Speaker 2: of experience. So I feel like that's one of the
43:02
Speaker 2: misconceptions is that young people can't do hard things or
43:07
Speaker 2: can't break into can't break boundaries. And you know, people
43:13
Speaker 2: with a lot of times in our culture feel like
43:15
Speaker 2: you need to wait, you need to be at a
43:17
Speaker 2: certain age before you do certain things, but you need
43:21
Speaker 2: to put your foot down. But one thing I'll say is,
43:31
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I think I've not. I
43:34
Speaker 2: think we generally have not like when I say we
43:38
Speaker 2: I and of course like the team you know, and
43:44
Speaker 2: even just beyond the ecosystem that we're in, the small
43:47
Speaker 2: ecosystem that we're in. Yeah, I think also me personally,
43:50
Speaker 2: I've not actually sat down to really think about this.
43:54
Speaker 2: I think I've just been We've just been like on
43:56
Speaker 2: a row, We've just been working, working, and we've not
43:58
Speaker 2: had time to really take it. But at the same time,
44:05
Speaker 2: it's it's mind blowing to me personally, and I think
44:11
Speaker 2: it only makes it better because it means that I
44:14
Speaker 2: started early, So meaning I I have, by the grace
44:21
Speaker 2: of God, at this age going forward forward, at the
44:25
Speaker 2: age of thirty or forty, I would have more experience
44:28
Speaker 2: than someone who.
44:29
Speaker 4: Thirty four year seven, yes, theme, yeah, forty seventy yes
44:33
Speaker 4: then yeah.
44:34
Speaker 2: Listen, a lot of people, what we've achieved in this
44:38
Speaker 2: show space of time and what we will achieve is
44:43
Speaker 2: going to be so profound, and I think that, to
44:48
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I think I've not even fathom that.
44:50
Speaker 2: I think I've not even de started to like really
44:53
Speaker 2: take it in.
44:54
Speaker 1: Like I think it's it's one of the cultures I've
44:58
Speaker 1: seen it, very impactful and typical. They don't seem to
45:02
Speaker 1: post to count. Someone said, if you can count it,
45:06
Speaker 1: he doesn't count, you know, So just that mentality that
45:09
Speaker 1: just keeps on going and going and going. And as
45:13
Speaker 1: we begin to bring this to a close, one of
45:15
Speaker 1: the questions that you know, jumps at me now is
45:19
Speaker 1: what I think you guys look out for in people
45:21
Speaker 1: when you want to employ them.
45:24
Speaker 2: I think we we look for people with a sense
45:33
Speaker 2: of purpose, people who we don't already like we're not
45:37
Speaker 2: trying to figure out you're not trying to figure out
45:39
Speaker 2: like what you want to do. You know, Okay, this
45:41
Speaker 2: is what you wanted. This is whether it's in your
45:43
Speaker 2: own small world, and it doesn't have to be even
45:47
Speaker 2: in whatever the industry we're doing. But let's say you're
45:50
Speaker 2: coming into the company as a as a software developer,
45:54
Speaker 2: or as an engineer, or even in the business side
45:57
Speaker 2: of things or marketing. You know what, in your own
46:00
Speaker 2: small world have you what drives you? You know, it's
46:05
Speaker 2: deeper than just Okay, you want to work here and
46:07
Speaker 2: you want to do what drives you? And what's what
46:09
Speaker 2: do you want to do after?
46:10
Speaker 4: What do you want to do?
46:11
Speaker 2: Because you may not be able to spend the rest
46:13
Speaker 2: of your life in this one company, So what do
46:15
Speaker 2: you want to do after?
46:16
Speaker 4: What do you? What drives you?
46:18
Speaker 2: What's your mission? And you can easily tell when people
46:21
Speaker 2: just are saying things for saying things sake, But the
46:25
Speaker 2: true people who really have a mission, you see them clearly.
46:28
Speaker 2: It's you can't truly fake it, to be honest. So
46:32
Speaker 2: I'll say yes and that, and I'll say that what's
46:39
Speaker 2: your view on the narrative, like what's your perspective, what's
46:42
Speaker 2: your perception of life? Because that really matters as well,
46:46
Speaker 2: like are you are you boxed? You know, what's what's
46:50
Speaker 2: your what's your end goal as well?
46:53
Speaker 1: Yeah?
46:53
Speaker 4: You know?
46:53
Speaker 2: And how do you see other people? How do you
46:56
Speaker 2: relate to other people as well?
46:58
Speaker 4: Yeah?
46:58
Speaker 1: You know. Talking to you makes me feel like the
47:00
Speaker 1: shift we think in this commun is already here. Yes,
47:04
Speaker 1: And because you don't sound to me as an organization
47:08
Speaker 1: that will that is just interested in whether the person
47:11
Speaker 1: fineish with the first class or second class. You just
47:15
Speaker 1: want to check what you can do.
47:16
Speaker 2: A lot of our engineers, all of our team, you know,
47:20
Speaker 2: it's not they didn't go to university or they just
47:22
Speaker 2: taught them. They were self taught. They were already of
47:25
Speaker 2: one of our head of head of production, you know,
47:28
Speaker 2: has been building engine since he was young. You know,
47:30
Speaker 2: these are people who building their hole.
47:32
Speaker 1: The only guy that built the engine would.
47:34
Speaker 2: Cook melted cans, molded and you know he did the
47:38
Speaker 2: electrical engine. Yeah, so this is it's unconventional, it is,
47:46
Speaker 2: but it's also you know, because we have to think
47:49
Speaker 2: of speed. We have to think of speed clarity. So
47:55
Speaker 2: what we do is when you're coming in, you may
47:58
Speaker 2: not be perfect, but we to train and refine and understand,
48:03
Speaker 2: you know, how to wait to place you and you know.
48:05
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's an interesting way of hiring, but
48:09
Speaker 2: we are looking to hire. In fact, we are going
48:12
Speaker 2: to be doing a lot more hiring and we're looking
48:16
Speaker 2: for those unique minds in Africa. We want to work
48:20
Speaker 2: with Africans who understand the ecosystem, even diaspora and Africans.
48:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you're so big on the African dream.
48:27
Speaker 4: We are we are awesome.
48:29
Speaker 1: And I must confess at this point that this is
48:34
Speaker 1: the first time I'm saying this on this podcast. I mean,
48:39
Speaker 1: I think about fifty to sixty percent of the people
48:41
Speaker 1: we have interviewed that from light nasion, and that's quite fascinatingly,
48:47
Speaker 1: just tells me that there's something brilliant there. And I mean,
48:54
Speaker 1: sitting down here hearing all these things, I must tell
48:58
Speaker 1: you my feeling as an individual, I'm excited. It's like
49:09
Speaker 1: they are awakening. We've been glamoring for He's already happening.
49:15
Speaker 1: It's already happening, and a new generation is rising so fast.
49:21
Speaker 4: Very faster than we think.
49:26
Speaker 1: And this is so brilliant here in this conversation. I've
49:31
Speaker 1: seen the power of starting early. I've seen the power
49:33
Speaker 1: of clarity. I've seen the power of collaboration. I've seen
49:37
Speaker 1: the power of vision. You know, I've seen the power
49:41
Speaker 1: of a dream. Look at the seventeen year old guy
49:43
Speaker 1: that sold this company.
49:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our founder, one of our co founders to
49:50
Speaker 2: not no no Max Sols to know. But Nathan is complete,
49:55
Speaker 2: actually still running. So now it's just that he's now
49:59
Speaker 2: in terror. Fully, he built terror fully and now this
50:04
Speaker 2: is what he's focusing on.
50:05
Speaker 1: And you guys go featured on CNN.
50:07
Speaker 2: Yes, we go, featured on CNN last year in August.
50:10
Speaker 2: They came to us and they saw what we're doing
50:13
Speaker 2: and it created it was.
50:17
Speaker 4: It was very just just last year.
50:19
Speaker 2: They came down, they came down with their team, they
50:22
Speaker 2: interviewed us, they featured.
50:23
Speaker 4: Us for in One Street, One Street montag.
50:27
Speaker 2: Every day you go and see you know, we were
50:29
Speaker 2: just like what you know, and we thank God every day.
50:34
Speaker 2: But it's been you know, and also one thing to say,
50:37
Speaker 2: we're a very diverse team. We work with everybody and
50:42
Speaker 2: anybody and that's why we you know, we're big on
50:47
Speaker 2: the African dream, whether from you you're from Ghana, Kenya,
50:50
Speaker 2: South Africa, you're from Nigeria, like we want to work
50:54
Speaker 2: with you. We want to work with people and remove
50:57
Speaker 2: that barrier. Like you know, we're all one. We all
51:00
Speaker 2: have the same if you want, we want, we have
51:03
Speaker 2: same vision, you know, all one.
51:05
Speaker 1: At that point, wow, I want to say that it's
51:08
Speaker 1: been one of the most amazing thing talking with you
51:13
Speaker 1: and I can't wait. I know we have some stuff
51:20
Speaker 1: from the company, but this is me just saying I
51:24
Speaker 1: think I need to be here and just see these
51:27
Speaker 1: things for myself, and I think everyone needs to be
51:30
Speaker 1: there and and my very since separate at this point
51:38
Speaker 1: is May Africa recognized you really and recognize what you
51:43
Speaker 1: guys are thinking because this is a game changer. And
51:47
Speaker 1: I think that it just gets better from here.
51:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is you know in different sectors what our
51:54
Speaker 2: aid or what our pushes that people should trying to see.
51:59
Speaker 2: What are the hell problems? Now we'll go to a
52:01
Speaker 2: lot of software already. I don't think not that we
52:05
Speaker 2: don't need more software in terms of when I say software,
52:07
Speaker 2: I mean like SaaS fintech.
52:09
Speaker 4: We we have a lot of that already.
52:12
Speaker 2: So we need our best minds to start working on
52:14
Speaker 2: the hard the hard issues.
52:17
Speaker 4: How do we solve power?
52:18
Speaker 2: You know, power is something that I hold get to
52:21
Speaker 2: my heart and I personally have you know, dreams and
52:24
Speaker 2: aspirations to see how we can transform the sector. You know,
52:28
Speaker 2: there's so many ways, and I think from new ways
52:33
Speaker 2: of you know, renewble, renewble source of energy too. You know,
52:38
Speaker 2: how can we improve on gas supply? How can we
52:41
Speaker 2: replaces gas even with things like steam? You know, right
52:46
Speaker 2: now power plants can work with combined psycho system.
52:50
Speaker 4: What do you want those you can use steam to
52:53
Speaker 4: power power to buy so rather than you know, one
52:58
Speaker 4: of the issues is we have gas. Yes, but the.
53:03
Speaker 2: Process of the regulations it's very difficult. So now the
53:07
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about steam or is you can actually also
53:15
Speaker 2: you know we mentioned this, Yes, the carbon credits you know,
53:19
Speaker 2: so I.
53:20
Speaker 1: Think around cabon credit is what Africa is not ready for.
53:24
Speaker 2: You know, how do we take and there's so many solutions.
53:28
Speaker 2: It could be forests, it could be energy. How do
53:30
Speaker 2: you get that and you know, get points because this
53:34
Speaker 2: is what Tesla also did you know Tesla made a
53:36
Speaker 2: lot of revenue from carbon credits?
53:39
Speaker 4: Really, yes, that's what we did. What Yeah, so because it's.
53:49
Speaker 1: Like talking about el on Moscow. Okay, so in South Africa?
53:54
Speaker 2: No, not when I saw the electric vehicles, basically they're
53:58
Speaker 2: being done ethically, you know, in good environments and it's
54:02
Speaker 2: helping the environment. You know, So there emission, yes, So
54:06
Speaker 2: what you're doing essentially is taking companies who are generating
54:13
Speaker 2: you know, carbon emissions. Maybe they can't fully you know,
54:19
Speaker 2: cancel it, so you have to obviously buy from from those.
54:24
Speaker 2: It is one of the interesting ways of balancing especially
54:28
Speaker 2: and we have that in Africa.
54:29
Speaker 4: We have abundance of this.
54:31
Speaker 2: But the power sector, I feel like there's an area
54:33
Speaker 2: where we could drive to understand this and there's something
54:38
Speaker 2: that we need to research on. A lot of recently
54:40
Speaker 2: development needs to be done in different sectors like this.
54:44
Speaker 1: It looks it looks like at some point you may
54:46
Speaker 1: look at you may be seeing yourself invest in the bisector.
54:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so good. I think there's a lot that
54:53
Speaker 2: could be done in education to food production. But yeah,
55:02
Speaker 2: m hm, so nice having you in the studio today.
55:06
Speaker 2: You welcome again once once again to the class.
55:08
Speaker 1: Fright, thank you. M m m m hmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmm