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ITB: Eagles Schedule Intel, Part 4: Quick Turnarounds, Odd Time Slots, Stringy Defenses Await · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

0:09
Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on? Everybody? It
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Speaker 1: is Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan, and we are finishing
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Speaker 1: off our twenty twenty six Eagles Schedule Analysis podcast. We
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Speaker 1: have gone deep inside almost every single matchup. We are
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Speaker 1: now rounding it out with the final weeks of the
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Speaker 1: season here in part four, and that means week fifteen
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Speaker 1: versus Seattle, Week sixteen versus Houston, Week seventeen at San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: And we don't need Week eighteen because we've already the
0:42
Speaker 1: Eagles will play at the Giants TVD, but we've already
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Speaker 1: done that matchup in the last podcast. So Adam, when
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Speaker 1: you isolate these three teams, they are all playoff teams
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Speaker 1: from last year. They're all very good teams. Each of
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Speaker 1: them have a little bit of a Shanahanish offensive element
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Speaker 1: to it, at least Seattle in San Francisco. Houston used
1:01
Speaker 1: to I think I still do right their play caller.
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Speaker 1: It comes from that tree.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this is the hardest, by far, the hardest
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Speaker 2: part of their schedule just happens to be these three
1:13
Speaker 2: games weeks fifteen through seventeen. This is the Saturday game
1:16
Speaker 2: against the Seahawks at five o'clock. Such an odd time,
1:21
Speaker 2: I know. And then they're on. The Eagles do play
1:25
Speaker 2: Thursday night, also at home Christmas Eve against the Texans,
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Speaker 2: and then they're at the Niners week seventeen, a team
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Speaker 2: they know very very well, and they got toasted. The
1:38
Speaker 2: Eagles did at home against a beat up opponent. That
1:42
Speaker 2: was just an awful loss. Boy, the coaches could not
1:44
Speaker 2: be proud of themselves that game. They didn't show up,
1:47
Speaker 2: The team didn't show up. They were terrible on both
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Speaker 2: sides of the football.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: But you look at it, it starts with Seattle, the defending,
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Speaker 2: the reigning Super Bowl champion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as the Eagles know from last year, it's
2:01
Speaker 1: tough to win a super Bowl and then especially dominate
2:04
Speaker 1: and come back and do it again. I think, you know,
2:08
Speaker 1: we've seen dynasties, but they typically come with these legendary
2:12
Speaker 1: quarterback head coach pairings. And Seattle has a lot of
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Speaker 1: losses in the offseason, Adam. You know, particularly on the
2:18
Speaker 1: defensive side, some pass rushers, like they lost boy A Mafe.
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Speaker 1: Of course, they lost Riek willand you know to the Eagles,
2:26
Speaker 1: they lost another player on defense whose name is escaping
2:29
Speaker 1: me at the moment, you might have it, but they
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Speaker 1: didn't necessarily go out and go apples to apples for
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Speaker 1: replacements either.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: In fact, what they did was they decided, okay, you
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Speaker 2: know what, Keth Walker, he's gonna walk. Well, they want
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Speaker 2: to draft a Judaian Price, but they were going to
2:47
Speaker 2: invest in the roster, whether it's extension because you know,
2:52
Speaker 2: Weatherspoon's going to get his deal, yep, whether it's making
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Speaker 2: sure Darnold's back he is. They took care of JSN
3:02
Speaker 2: monster deal. But that receiver market has just exploded and
3:08
Speaker 2: they kind of are going to run it back. They're
3:09
Speaker 2: going to mostly run it back. And no team ever
3:11
Speaker 2: stays exactly the same in the National Football it's impossible
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Speaker 2: to the salary cap, but they'll bring them back a
3:17
Speaker 2: lot of starters.
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Speaker 3: And it's funny.
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Speaker 2: If you really looked at the roster, you go, wow,
3:22
Speaker 2: is this a super Bowl team? It doesn't look great,
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Speaker 2: but it's well coached, it's well schemed. But they've lost
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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator who they would just want a super
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Speaker 2: Bowl with.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about the roster. I mean. The weird
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Speaker 1: thing to me about the Seahawks, by the way, is
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Speaker 1: that I felt that they were the second best team
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Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. If you just boiled it
3:44
Speaker 1: down to offense and defense, I thought the Rams were better.
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Speaker 1: But they were so far ahead of the Rams and
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Speaker 1: special teams, and that's why they won those games because
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Speaker 1: of punt returns, because of field goals, because of muffed
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Speaker 1: punts on the Rams. I mean, the Rams had to
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Speaker 1: fire their special teams coordinators have way through the season.
4:00
Speaker 1: But the Rams, if you go back and look at
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Speaker 1: the box score, the Rams scored against Seattle's defense pretty easily.
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Speaker 1: I think they averaged more than twenty five points a
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Speaker 1: game against Seattle, but defensively they weren't as good, and
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Speaker 1: then special teams they blew it. But that's the trick
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Speaker 1: for Seattle now is to come back, be the hunted team,
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Speaker 1: replace your losses, and then try to build off what
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Speaker 1: you did last year. And now you're saying that they've
4:23
Speaker 1: got this new play caller, right, and he is. Give
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Speaker 1: us some background on the new play caller.
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Speaker 2: So Brian Florey, who was actually I think he was
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Speaker 2: actually a quarterback in high school, but he's been coaching
4:35
Speaker 2: mostly on the defensive side of the national football Like
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Speaker 2: he's never called plays before. He does know the Shanahan system,
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Speaker 2: which is what they're going to run. He actually coached
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Speaker 2: on both sides of the football for the forty nine Ers.
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Speaker 3: Coach defense with the Browns.
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Speaker 2: But it's just kind of odd that all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden he's gonna call plays now. It's generally because they
5:00
Speaker 2: want to stay with the same system and they're going
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Speaker 2: to take a risk on a guy who hasn't called
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Speaker 2: plays before. Now that you know, they feel that with
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Speaker 2: the running game of prices who they think he is. Yes,
5:09
Speaker 2: he was a late first round pick, but they like him.
5:11
Speaker 2: Sharperne is coming off the A C. L.
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Speaker 3: Entry.
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Speaker 2: That's that's concerning. But Donald's back. He was terrific for
5:18
Speaker 2: most of the season. We mention JSN. They took care
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Speaker 2: of Rasht Shaheed if the trade they extend his contract.
5:25
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup surprisingly is back. He had a big contract.
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Speaker 2: He's back. Their offensive linemen are back, so they feel
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Speaker 2: that pretty much everything's the same.
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Speaker 3: It's just that they have this new play.
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Speaker 2: Caller, Florey, who was with the Niners and he uh
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Speaker 2: for several years, seven years now. It comes over Seattle
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Speaker 2: because he knows the system right, and you hope it works.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's kind of where Mike McDonald is
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Speaker 2: and they're going to run the football.
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Speaker 3: That's where the dolfin's going to start.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's the interesting thing is because with
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Speaker 1: the Shanahan style teams, they want to run the ball.
6:02
Speaker 1: They want to have a good play action game. And
6:04
Speaker 1: the Seahawks had a very good play action game last year,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't really run the ball as effectively and
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Speaker 1: impactively as they wanted. Kenneth Walker had a great playoffs
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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl right right, but they were not you know,
6:17
Speaker 1: for the most of the season, they were really trying
6:19
Speaker 1: to find that running game. They were alternating between Walker
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Speaker 1: and Sharbonney. And by the way, you know, zach Scharbonne
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Speaker 1: is coming off the injury. They draft Jadarian Price out
6:27
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame, the teammate of Jeremiah Love, in the
6:29
Speaker 1: first round. They signed Emmanuel Wilson. They still have George Hawani,
6:34
Speaker 1: who gave him him a few carries last year. It
6:37
Speaker 1: looks like Adham They're going to try their darnedest to
6:39
Speaker 1: still maintain that identity. You wonder who in the receiving corps.
6:43
Speaker 1: I was surprised also Cupp came back. Rashichih they traded
6:47
Speaker 1: for last year. I thought he helped them more in
6:49
Speaker 1: punt return than just having a Really I thought he
6:52
Speaker 1: was going to be a bigger part of the offense
6:53
Speaker 1: when he came over. It really didn't matter that way.
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Speaker 1: How about the kid the tight end they drafted, though,
6:58
Speaker 1: there's some opportunities for the Oregon tight end, Elijah Arroyo,
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Speaker 1: maybe to step in in year two and be a
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Speaker 1: little bit more of a weapon. But like overall, when
7:08
Speaker 1: you look at this offense against what we expected Eagles
7:11
Speaker 1: defense to be really good, it's not like you get
7:13
Speaker 1: scared of anything other than Jackson Smithson jig. But who's
7:17
Speaker 1: really good? But you're gonna see that week to week.
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Speaker 2: Well, he could run. He is an elite deep threat.
7:21
Speaker 2: He just he is not a high volume pass target player.
7:24
Speaker 2: Heps near the end of his career. Now on your point,
7:26
Speaker 2: you've got a j Barner who you did flash a
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Speaker 2: little bit, who's known his third year of Michigan tight end,
7:31
Speaker 2: and Arroyo so and Arx Salbert's back is a hy
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Speaker 2: tight end. They've got the ability to play a lot
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Speaker 2: of leven if they want to, or a lot of twelve,
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Speaker 2: but the Shanahan system is more twelve than eleven.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: But it just depends. They do have a full back.
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Speaker 2: By the way, former not ego Eagle legend Brady Russell
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Speaker 2: is there. He might remember him, who the Seahawks signed
7:51
Speaker 2: some years ago off the Eagles brack squad.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Matt russells EF.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they have they have offensive is
8:00
Speaker 2: that he could flat out fly.
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Speaker 3: That's that's why he's back with the money and they're
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Speaker 3: paying them.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: But they did spend yet another it's really crazy, Kenneth
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Speaker 2: Walker second round pick, Zach Charbone, second round pick, Jujerian
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Speaker 2: Price first round pick. So they put a lot of
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Speaker 2: draft assets at running back.
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Speaker 1: They really did.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that the former Eagles great tight
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Speaker 1: end Harrison Bryant is also one of those.
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Speaker 3: That's right, he is there. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Uh, another guy that could take a step up. I
8:29
Speaker 1: thought he had a nice rookie year. I think Greg
8:31
Speaker 1: Cosell told us, you know, talked about him in the
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Speaker 1: pre draft process last year. But Tory Horton, who got
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Speaker 1: in there a few times, made some plays downfield. He's
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Speaker 1: a big guy, six' two, Receiver SO i there's some
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Speaker 1: weapons here who can in year two between him And
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Speaker 1: arroyo and you, know, Uh charbonne coming back And Juderian,
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Speaker 1: price maybe maybe they.
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Speaker 2: Are and, yeah The legiti they were actually pretty loaded at.
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Speaker 2: Receiver it's it's kind of interesting because this is not
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Speaker 2: what you really think of when you Think. Seahawks but
9:03
Speaker 2: then they've Got, prices a first round, Pick Emmanuel, wilson
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Speaker 2: who The egles know very well by the ways at running.
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Speaker 2: Back so when they try to match up Against, Seattle
9:12
Speaker 2: seattle could play them whatever weakness now that the teams
9:16
Speaker 2: will find out by then by week, fifteen you know
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Speaker 2: what every team's weakness is and you try to exploit.
9:23
Speaker 2: It now The eagles run, Defense davis is back obviously With,
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Speaker 2: carter with Their, joemo their same front as. Back you Add,
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Speaker 2: grenard you've Got Nolan, smith who's an excellent run. Defender
9:35
Speaker 2: hunt's got the better upside as a pass. Rusher he's
9:38
Speaker 2: not bad against the, run he's got better. Length The
9:41
Speaker 2: eagles can match up against them now offensive line, wise
9:45
Speaker 2: almost everybody's back from them where he's able as the
9:47
Speaker 2: first runner of last. Year cross And lucas are back
9:51
Speaker 2: at the tackle. Position they pretty much have everybody back
9:55
Speaker 2: now their death is very very young other Than Josh.
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Speaker 3: Jones they, have you, depth not, great but they have.
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Speaker 2: Depth this is A this is a pretty complete offense
10:05
Speaker 2: here if everybody stays.
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Speaker 1: Healthy, yeah, YEAH i would, agree AND i think that
10:10
Speaker 1: there's room for them to take a step up with
10:12
Speaker 1: some of those young guys Like horton And arroyo and
10:15
Speaker 1: maybe the running game on. Defense, adam you, know we'll
10:20
Speaker 1: know obviously by, now by this, week you know how
10:23
Speaker 1: This eagles offense is functioning with its new scheme And
10:26
Speaker 1: Sean mann and any adjustments they need to make along the.
10:29
Speaker 1: Way but we know they're going to want to run the.
10:30
Speaker 1: Ball this is a very difficult team to run the ball.
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Speaker 1: Against their very stout up. Front and really they're only
10:36
Speaker 1: front seven loss with Boy A, mafe who's more of
10:38
Speaker 1: a pass, rusher and they did replace him theoretically by
10:42
Speaker 1: signing the Veteran Dante Fowler, junior but pretty stout up.
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Speaker 3: Front, yeah and Your channon To wolfs has had a
10:47
Speaker 3: lot of.
10:47
Speaker 2: Injuries they'll they'll Rotate Tank Lawrence egals know him very
10:51
Speaker 2: well formerly of The, Cowboys and you're, right on the
10:54
Speaker 2: Front Byron, murphy slow rookie season got better last.
10:58
Speaker 3: Year Jaron rae of The. Angels.
11:00
Speaker 2: One this guy's in THE nfl because he could rush
11:02
Speaker 2: the passer from a tier. Standpoint and another guy who
11:05
Speaker 2: just seems to get better with, Ages Leonard. Williams so,
11:07
Speaker 2: yeah they've got a very active, front very talented. Right,
11:12
Speaker 2: yeah they're they're thirty four. Front i'm looking forward to
11:16
Speaker 2: seeing how they match up against The. Eagles the only
11:20
Speaker 2: thing that that you THAT i would WHERE i think
11:23
Speaker 2: you could get in advantages if you're going to eleven.
11:27
Speaker 2: Personnel witherspoon's as, player no, Noabit he's a great, player
11:30
Speaker 2: could play insider. Outside Josh shoba has been a great.
11:32
Speaker 2: Story eagles known very, well run all that, well but
11:35
Speaker 2: tough physically has been a good.
11:37
Speaker 3: Story they're Not Julian love is still. There you mentioned them.
11:40
Speaker 2: Earlier Tya katta is a guy that they've, drafted they've
11:43
Speaker 2: developed as an undrafted free, agent and the great m
11:46
Speaker 2: And Warri, yeah who is a chess piece. Guy but
11:50
Speaker 2: they're not really deep a corner and if you spread them,
11:53
Speaker 2: out that's where you can have an.
11:54
Speaker 1: Advantage agree if you can if you have the time
11:57
Speaker 1: to throw the. Ball it's funny how you said that
11:59
Speaker 1: these guys that they have in the front, seven they
12:02
Speaker 1: ate little like fine. Wine they've aged. Well but WHEN
12:05
Speaker 1: i looked at, it that was the one thing that
12:07
Speaker 1: stood out to me is that they are long in
12:09
Speaker 1: the tooth in that. Regard, Right Leonard williams been around
12:11
Speaker 1: for a, Bit Tank lawrence has been around for a,
12:13
Speaker 1: Bit Dante fowler has been around for a. Bit even
12:16
Speaker 1: you Know Jared reid old no is a Young, no
12:19
Speaker 1: it's only his first two years in the league. Either
12:21
Speaker 1: So Ernest jones been around for a. Bit you Mentioned,
12:24
Speaker 1: nuos who's been around for it and gets, hurt So
12:26
Speaker 1: red hang.
12:27
Speaker 3: On John reid's thirty, three just so you, know he's
12:29
Speaker 3: actually pretty.
12:30
Speaker 1: Old, no so he is old my, fault, man he, Said,
12:32
Speaker 1: God i'm getting old. Cheeze so so that actually just
12:35
Speaker 1: amplifies my point is that this is a very good
12:38
Speaker 1: stout front that has seemingly gotten better with. Age but
12:41
Speaker 1: we also know it's not young and it's not deep per.
12:45
Speaker 1: Se so if they get they would Be, yeah they'd
12:50
Speaker 1: be pretty PRETTY i, mean and we're talking about a
12:53
Speaker 1: game here in week, fifteen, Right so that would be
12:56
Speaker 1: my concern For, seattle and then and a favor of
12:59
Speaker 1: something that could favor The, eagles who have a little
13:01
Speaker 1: bit more depth both offensively and. Defensively, yeah by.
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Speaker 2: By week, fifteen teams are worn. Down and obviously this
13:11
Speaker 2: is a game on A. Saturday it's such an odd,
13:12
Speaker 2: game seattles a traveling team. Here i'll be very interesting
13:17
Speaker 2: to see what The eagles approach will be here because
13:20
Speaker 2: there's there's an opportunity to throw against the. Secondary as you,
13:25
Speaker 2: said if you can protect. Down what's funny is this
13:28
Speaker 2: passport was actually really good last. Season the run blocking was.
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Speaker 1: Atrocious, yeah made no sense to.
13:33
Speaker 2: ME i, Know, well physically they broke. Down we'll see
13:36
Speaker 2: how healthy they are over the next couple of. Months
13:39
Speaker 2: but this is a fun. Matchup this is if you
13:41
Speaker 2: look at the pockets of The eagle schedule, again this
13:44
Speaker 2: is the. Toughest AND i also this it's a conference.
13:50
Speaker 2: Game this is gonna have big playoff, Implications.
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Speaker 1: Yes very much so, sure all, Right so then they
13:57
Speaker 1: have this Weird this is one of the weirdest turnarounds
14:00
Speaker 1: you'll ever see it in The Nation Football. League so
14:02
Speaker 1: they go from playing A saturday game Against seattle In
14:06
Speaker 1: week fifteen to then A thursday home Game week sixteen
14:11
Speaker 1: against The Houston. Texas thankfully for them it's a home,
14:13
Speaker 1: game but, man that is a really weird turnaround From
14:16
Speaker 1: saturday To. Thursday and obviously that is The Christmas eve
14:21
Speaker 1: game against The. Texans AND i don't know what to
14:24
Speaker 1: make of The. Texans year after, Year, adam they had
14:26
Speaker 1: one of the MOST i think that they were what
14:29
Speaker 1: one in five last year or, something after saying they
14:31
Speaker 1: looked terrible and they couldn't score any, points and Then
14:33
Speaker 1: Davis mills had to. Takeover then he actually wound up
14:36
Speaker 1: kind of resparking the, offense and then see De stroud
14:39
Speaker 1: came back and they won all these games down the.
14:41
Speaker 1: Stretch so they're a very strange. Team but one thing
14:44
Speaker 1: we know about The texans is defensively they should be,
14:46
Speaker 1: very very. Good so it's going to be two teams
14:51
Speaker 1: in a span of short time here that are really
14:54
Speaker 1: good defenses that The eagles will have to.
14:55
Speaker 3: Play, yeah let's get started With houston's.
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Speaker 2: Offense is it's confounded Because stroud had one of the
15:01
Speaker 2: best seasons of rookies ever had a. Quarterback, yeah and
15:04
Speaker 2: then he's been on the steady. Decline, uh just the,
15:07
Speaker 2: turnovers the playoffs not. Good they they're not worried about
15:12
Speaker 2: him the way that they've talked about, it but you
15:13
Speaker 2: have to be based on his. Performance their offensive line
15:16
Speaker 2: is somewhat, patchwork which is Again nick Nick as is
15:21
Speaker 2: pretty GOOD, gm but he's completely botched the offensive. Line,
15:24
Speaker 2: well you know, What they're not on a Super bowl
15:25
Speaker 2: the way they're building. It Bringing Why, teller formerly the
15:29
Speaker 2: of the of The browns Ed agram who's worked out
15:32
Speaker 2: more or less for formerly The. Vikings Brad smith will
15:35
Speaker 2: be the right. Tackle Trent brown yet Another patriot who could.
15:39
Speaker 2: Play he'll back up a red Attackle On, ursery who
15:41
Speaker 2: they like second round and did a good. Job yeah,
15:44
Speaker 2: Season Blake fisher's not worked out uh at tackle from
15:48
Speaker 2: a couple of years. Ago rutledge now was their first round,
15:50
Speaker 2: pick will be their. Center it's it's it's too much.
15:54
Speaker 2: Patchwork IT'S i.
15:55
Speaker 1: Agree that's the one thing THAT i. SAID i will say,
15:58
Speaker 1: THIS i think that there's much more upside for THIS
16:00
Speaker 1: o line than the last few. Years but the fact
16:03
Speaker 1: that you got a rookie at, center you got this
16:06
Speaker 1: longtime Guard Wyatt, teller who's been good dealt with some.
16:09
Speaker 1: Injuries you Got ursery who had an up and down rookie.
16:11
Speaker 1: Year Ed ingram came over The, vikings he was up and.
16:14
Speaker 1: Down Braden. SMITH i just there's no continuity with.
16:17
Speaker 2: It, yeah And bright and Editing editingram is actually. Improved
16:23
Speaker 2: he's still not a great.
16:24
Speaker 1: Guard mm. Hmm it's too much.
16:26
Speaker 3: Patchwork the.
16:27
Speaker 2: Depth Evan, brown who could play guard, center has been
16:29
Speaker 2: around the league a long. Time Jake, andrews he had
16:32
Speaker 2: Another patriot they claimed off waivers we started last.
16:34
Speaker 3: Season. Uh they their depth is.
16:38
Speaker 2: Okay And Trent, brown who's had a lot of, injuries
16:40
Speaker 2: he's battled his weight still. Playing to, me when you
16:45
Speaker 2: really look at, it it's it's a it's a good
16:48
Speaker 2: run game With David montgomery comes in from the. Trade he.
16:51
Speaker 2: Wanted he wanted to stop. Sharing he won't share. Much
16:53
Speaker 2: what he marks will back him. Up montgomery could play
16:56
Speaker 2: on third. Down it's just good, Back, yeah pretty good.
16:58
Speaker 2: Back Nick, kell the offensive, coordator comes from The shanahan.
17:01
Speaker 2: System excuse, me the fassist to, Me kimber from The
17:04
Speaker 2: rams h called the place a couple of.
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Speaker 3: Years but the problem Is Stroud they're just not their.
17:10
Speaker 2: Defense they're kind of like The phillies their defense and
17:13
Speaker 2: pitching well won't be their. Defense the pitching will carry
17:15
Speaker 2: The phillies the. Season, well the defense will carry The.
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Speaker 2: Texans that Unless stroud magically regains what he once has
17:23
Speaker 2: And cally he's done a good job with the run,
17:24
Speaker 2: game but from talking to people in the league will
17:26
Speaker 2: watch their, tape concepts aren't the. Greatest stroud has regressed.
17:29
Speaker 2: Significantly and then here's the THING i do want to.
17:32
Speaker 2: Mention out of, nowhere they Drafted Mark, klein a tight
17:36
Speaker 2: end who had fifth and sixth round great from, clubs
17:39
Speaker 2: in the second. Round that shocked.
17:42
Speaker 3: Me, That, yeah that was.
17:43
Speaker 1: Crazy, YEAH i DON'T i don't know what was behind.
17:47
Speaker 1: That he's a guy who could. BLOCK i Believe Marlon
17:50
Speaker 1: klein If i'm not Mistaken Marlon. Klein but oh my,
17:53
Speaker 1: GOD i don't know. Why, YEAH i, KNOW i know
17:56
Speaker 1: that was very.
17:57
Speaker 3: ROUND i don't, know.
17:58
Speaker 2: Man but With Dalton, Schultz Foster, barobi the backup the
18:04
Speaker 2: the and Then Nico collins got his contract, adjusted really
18:07
Speaker 2: good player gets after it just been a good story.
18:09
Speaker 3: Development some. Injuries Jane hinkins was the second round of last.
18:13
Speaker 3: Year they got. Size, Unfortunately Tank.
18:15
Speaker 2: Dell had that terrible knee injury from two years ago
18:18
Speaker 2: against The chiefs in the. Playoffs he didn't play last.
18:20
Speaker 2: Season who knows what he's gonna look.
18:22
Speaker 1: LIKE i think he's THE x. FACTOR i mean if
18:25
Speaker 1: he can like the guy from from that year that
18:29
Speaker 1: that that was rookie year For, stroud then this OFFENSE
18:33
Speaker 1: i think can BE i pretty. Good even they need, It,
18:36
Speaker 1: YEAH i would, Agree SO i will SAY i THINK
18:40
Speaker 1: i think the offense is more well rounded now with
18:43
Speaker 1: the addition Of, montgomery, RIGHT i Like. Schultz you, know
18:46
Speaker 1: we'll see About. Kleine but With dell coming, back with
18:49
Speaker 1: the receivers they drafted last, Year higgins And noel being
18:52
Speaker 1: in year, Two nico coming, BACK i would not expect
18:57
Speaker 1: this offense to have struggled to struggle the way it
18:59
Speaker 1: did for the first eight weeks of last. YEAR i
19:01
Speaker 1: think it's got.
19:02
Speaker 2: Quarterback look at look at the. QUARTERBACK i mean he's
19:04
Speaker 2: just had an awful. Regression nobody knows what the nobody
19:09
Speaker 2: could tell you off watching us today what he is
19:11
Speaker 2: And els quarterback because he was elite as a, rookie
19:13
Speaker 2: which is. Rare, yep but he's been on the steady
19:15
Speaker 2: declined holds on the ball of decision. Making he's kind
19:19
Speaker 2: of lost his, touch kind of like a pitcher when
19:21
Speaker 2: he can't.
19:21
Speaker 3: Locate he's not, Locating he's just not he's not seeing.
19:24
Speaker 2: It Davis mills is a solid, backup but you don't
19:27
Speaker 2: Want i'm starting winning a couple of, games, Right so
19:29
Speaker 2: they have they have questions because because the, quarterback.
19:33
Speaker 1: Of, course and of course they'll doing the heavy lifting
19:37
Speaker 1: will Be houston's, defense which is, very very Good nico And.
19:40
Speaker 1: Nico nico has. Done, yeah it's elite New Demico ryans
19:44
Speaker 1: has done an unbelievable. Job he'll bring it to the
19:47
Speaker 1: link here a week sixteen and The eagle's better hopefully
19:49
Speaker 1: come out of That seattle game out too many injuries on,
19:52
Speaker 1: offense because again you turn around and you play yet
19:55
Speaker 1: another elite defense just five days.
19:57
Speaker 2: Later, yeah they're there are forty three front wide. Nine
20:03
Speaker 2: It's Willie anderson has been perfect For. Dunil hunter is
20:06
Speaker 2: playing all sorts of. Schemes he's been, great no matter
20:08
Speaker 2: what great, lands great story. Development you got to block these.
20:12
Speaker 2: Guys the Ageless Sheldon, Rankins he's another guy who's up.
20:15
Speaker 2: There they did Draft cad, McDonald the second rounder.
20:19
Speaker 3: Out Of Ohio.
20:20
Speaker 2: State, yeah they need to upside and get younger because ran.
20:25
Speaker 2: Rankins it just turned thirty, two so he's up there
20:29
Speaker 2: a little. Bit the story's been at. Linebacker they've got
20:32
Speaker 2: so much out Of henry to. Too Greg oseill did
20:36
Speaker 2: tell us he was wrong on. Him greg did. Not
20:39
Speaker 2: he didn't see. It and god was only a fifth.
20:41
Speaker 2: Rounder but he's been a quality. Starter he's come out
20:43
Speaker 2: of nowhere.
20:43
Speaker 3: Yep and he.
20:45
Speaker 2: Gets a lot of, penalties gets fined a, lot but
20:47
Speaker 2: he's a pretty good player as he's Al Shai.
20:50
Speaker 3: Er, yeah just got his contract. Extensions so they're good at,
20:53
Speaker 3: linebacker superb in the?
20:56
Speaker 2: Secondary Was stingley lasted Or petrie that the nickel they
21:00
Speaker 2: got blanket ship comes over from The eagles In bullock M.
21:05
Speaker 2: J stewart who could play nickel or safety and lasted
21:09
Speaker 2: a instingly does it get?
21:10
Speaker 3: Better and that it?
21:11
Speaker 2: Is this to me is a white knuckle or this
21:14
Speaker 2: is a low scoring. Game this is like a seventeen thirteen.
21:18
Speaker 1: Game, YEAH i, mean you know how you AND i
21:20
Speaker 1: like to take these and do the you, know do
21:22
Speaker 1: you want to go? Eleven do you want to go.
21:24
Speaker 1: Twelve do you want to spread it?
21:25
Speaker 3: That what would you?
21:26
Speaker 1: DO i don't. KNOW i think you just have to
21:30
Speaker 1: make sure you have to have an honest running. Game
21:32
Speaker 1: if you, don't if you're in second and, long if
21:34
Speaker 1: you're like last year and you're in too many unfavorable
21:38
Speaker 1: down in distant, Scenarios Will anderson will be on your
21:40
Speaker 1: quarterbacks back or chasing him out of the. Pocket and
21:43
Speaker 1: if not, him it'll Be Danielle hunter or somebody else
21:46
Speaker 1: because they just come at.
21:47
Speaker 3: You so but just so you, know.
21:52
Speaker 2: The texans are on they're in a really short week
21:54
Speaker 2: effect they Play sunday at home Against. Jacksonville they got
21:57
Speaker 2: to travel to Play Christmas eve At, philly and that's
22:00
Speaker 2: that's a we'll see how that game. Goes that's a divisional.
22:04
Speaker 2: Game it could be for the. Division who, knows it
22:06
Speaker 2: could be an emotional. Game you see what going on
22:10
Speaker 2: the road is. Tough, well we'll see. How we'll see
22:12
Speaker 2: how it goes for. Them BUT i do want to mention.
22:14
Speaker 1: That, yeah, yeah but, again just two bloodbaths first defenses
22:18
Speaker 1: back to back weeks and in a short turnaround With
22:21
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23:58
Speaker 1: who just keep they just every, ad they keep adding
24:02
Speaker 1: to their offense every. Year every year they go and
24:04
Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver in the second. Round this year shocked.
24:07
Speaker 1: EVERYBODY i really higher stribbling From ole miss, RIGHT i, mean,
24:11
Speaker 1: yeah he signed Like. Evans they just don't stop with
24:14
Speaker 1: the offensive.
24:15
Speaker 2: Carousel, well AND i know that some of their fans
24:19
Speaker 2: can't stand the way that they've drafted a recent.
24:21
Speaker 3: Years they've reached for some.
24:22
Speaker 2: Players oh, yeah, Stribbling this guy probably should have gone
24:27
Speaker 2: the fourth he went in the.
24:27
Speaker 3: Second.
24:27
Speaker 2: Look as long as they get it, right a long
24:29
Speaker 2: as the guy's a, player then it doesn't matter what
24:30
Speaker 2: the media the fans. Think But Turkey, piersoll who unfortunately
24:35
Speaker 2: had the off the field incident which was not his
24:37
Speaker 2: fault when he got shot a couple of years.
24:39
Speaker 3: Ago thankfully he's, okay he's.
24:41
Speaker 2: Fine he's had a lot of injuries he had he
24:43
Speaker 2: had a said shoulder and hamstring, problems but productive when.
24:47
Speaker 3: Healthy. Uh To Marcus Robinson, eagles fi years.
24:53
Speaker 2: Old. Unbelievable we talked about this guy like eight years
24:57
Speaker 2: ago for free agency something like.
24:59
Speaker 3: That he turns he turns thirty two In.
25:03
Speaker 2: December, yeah he made in, fact remember he was a
25:05
Speaker 2: special team's a so and then he did so well
25:07
Speaker 2: when he had to fill in with The rams at,
25:09
Speaker 2: receiver they took him off special. Team so It's evans
25:11
Speaker 2: as you, Mentioned Christian kirk who will play Inside pearcell's
25:15
Speaker 2: the move, receiver the Z Mike Evans, kittle who's you,
25:19
Speaker 2: know obviously he's you, know he's coming off in another.
25:24
Speaker 2: Injury it's a big. One he just turned thirty three In.
25:28
Speaker 2: October he's going to go to The hall Of.
25:29
Speaker 3: Fame great. Player. Yep and the.
25:31
Speaker 2: Guy THAT i know came out of, Nowhere Jake, Tongue
25:34
Speaker 2: oh my, god WHO i thought Was Jake. TUNG'S i
25:37
Speaker 2: didn't have to pronounce his name until he started becoming
25:39
Speaker 2: a player THEN i had to learn. It but you,
25:41
Speaker 2: know and you you mentioned this a couple months ago
25:43
Speaker 2: with these with The West coast offensive lines and particularly
25:46
Speaker 2: The shanahan one other Than Trent, williams who's going to
25:50
Speaker 2: be A hall Of, famer a lot of no name
25:53
Speaker 2: players but just fit the kind of way that they
25:56
Speaker 2: block in that. System Connor, Colby Jake, Puny cult mckibbitts
26:03
Speaker 2: who got an.
26:03
Speaker 3: Extension, yep there's like no name.
26:06
Speaker 2: Guys but you know what they get The dutch chop
26:09
Speaker 2: At oh by the, way a guy that he goals
26:11
Speaker 2: to know very.
26:11
Speaker 3: Well woe be their top backup a tier alignment And brett's.
26:13
Speaker 1: Oath, yeah, YEAH i suppose it helps when you have
26:17
Speaker 1: a brilliant scheme and also you have the. Weapons Like
26:20
Speaker 1: christian McCaffrey doesn't need a whole lot of space to be.
26:23
Speaker 1: Created he's just naturally that Talented, kittle same thing when healthy.
26:28
Speaker 1: Man now you Have Mike. Evans now again we have
26:32
Speaker 1: this conversation with the forty nine. Ers seemingly every year
26:35
Speaker 1: they are not a young. Team they are really long
26:39
Speaker 1: in the. TOOTH i mean Between Mike evans And kirk
26:41
Speaker 1: And Trent williams Is, god he's almost? Forty is he?
26:44
Speaker 1: Forty he might be? Forty, right let.
26:46
Speaker 3: Me see thirty eight In.
26:49
Speaker 1: August, Okay Trent, williams Old, kittle old McCaffrey current around
26:55
Speaker 1: quite a. BIT i, mean they're just not a young.
26:57
Speaker 3: Team, no good.
26:59
Speaker 2: Point, yeah The commando has learned the hard.
27:02
Speaker 3: Way.
27:02
Speaker 2: Man you don't now they're actually very young other Than
27:06
Speaker 2: greenlaw who's back, again And Fred. Warner they're actually relatively
27:09
Speaker 2: young on. Defense but, offensively they got a lot of old. Players.
27:14
Speaker 2: Yep they have so many twenty nine to thirty two
27:17
Speaker 2: year old players on. Offense it's not a good thing to.
27:19
Speaker 2: Have but they're going for. It that's why you're Bringing
27:22
Speaker 2: Mike evans on a two year, Deal Christian, kirk who
27:25
Speaker 2: turns thirty In. November that's not the way you build your,
27:29
Speaker 2: team but this is what teams do sometimes they're, like
27:32
Speaker 2: they're going for. It who knows About kittle's health at this.
27:35
Speaker 2: Point Brandon iyakho won't be on the team this. Season
27:38
Speaker 2: he's also talk about a thirty for thirty short what's
27:42
Speaker 2: happened with him after he signed his extension was making
27:46
Speaker 2: thirty million a? Season, jeez, well, so, yeah they're going for. It, well,
27:51
Speaker 2: yeah the whole.
27:52
Speaker 1: They should because, defensively as you, mentioned they're much younger
27:55
Speaker 1: and if they're, healthier there's no denying they've got some.
27:59
Speaker 1: Players Man williams was good before he tore his he's
28:01
Speaker 1: in the Rookie last, year they traded For Odigi, zua
28:05
Speaker 1: who will fit that defense very. Well Nick bosa will
28:07
Speaker 1: come back from his a Cl we know how good
28:09
Speaker 1: of a pass rusher he. Is Fred, warner we know
28:12
Speaker 1: how good he. IS i, mean they've always been sort
28:14
Speaker 1: of average in the, secondary but have been able to
28:17
Speaker 1: get by because of their their pass. Rush they Draft
28:20
Speaker 1: Grayson hilton At, oklahoma who's probably gonna help the pass.
28:23
Speaker 1: RUSH i would think right. Away Romelo height with a third.
28:26
Speaker 1: Rounder they drafted. Him he's another front seven, guy so
28:30
Speaker 1: they can throw some guys at the quarterback.
28:32
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah halton will be an interior pass. Rusher, yes
28:38
Speaker 2: they're gonna remember now they have a new deep, Coordinator Rahee.
28:41
Speaker 2: Marsh but my senses they're going to keep the same.
28:44
Speaker 2: Scheme why nine With, bosa With Mike Cail. Williams you
28:48
Speaker 2: Mentioned Keon, White this is the thing to bring Abat Drake.
28:55
Speaker 2: Greenlaw he hasn't up been the same since The achilles.
28:57
Speaker 2: Injury The broncos cut. Him Uh Fred, warner you, know.
29:01
Speaker 3: Had the injury last. Year he's. Back i'm gonna spread them.
29:05
Speaker 3: Out they're still not that good at.
29:07
Speaker 2: Corner if they've got they've Got lenardo Green Geomdoor leonore
29:12
Speaker 2: has been a good story, development very up and, down
29:14
Speaker 2: but good the last couple of.
29:15
Speaker 3: Years they like up In.
29:16
Speaker 2: Stouth their Nickel Nate hobbs is there to who they
29:19
Speaker 2: always like to actually try to trade for him some years,
29:21
Speaker 2: ago that's my, understanding so he could help them inside and.
29:25
Speaker 2: Outside he's said too many knee, Injuries Jerry brown And
29:28
Speaker 2: mustafa at.
29:29
Speaker 3: Safety to, me if The.
29:31
Speaker 2: Eagles, Here i'm gonna spread them. Out and you, know
29:35
Speaker 2: and also by the, WAY i want to think on,
29:36
Speaker 2: McCaffrey this is why a guy Like Zach bawant is so.
29:40
Speaker 3: Important he could. Cover he could cover because.
29:47
Speaker 2: Without Nikobe, dean we don't know About campbell and coverage he's.
29:50
Speaker 2: Been you, know he was hurt last. Season like there's
29:54
Speaker 2: some matchups. Here it's McCaffrey on The eagles, linebackers Then
29:58
Speaker 2: eagles Wise Smitty Lemon, Wis Hollywood, brown Even Darius. Cooper
30:04
Speaker 2: you could spread them. Out to, ME i would play
30:07
Speaker 2: more leven than twelve.
30:08
Speaker 3: Going against to The niner secondary or.
30:09
Speaker 1: Defense M i think on the flip, side you, know
30:13
Speaker 1: and you saw it in the playoff, game that third
30:15
Speaker 1: safety that Because eagles will probably be you, know when
30:18
Speaker 1: they're when they are in nickel against this, team they
30:21
Speaker 1: are going to bring the gene from safety to nickelback
30:25
Speaker 1: and then who's gonna come In Marcus? Epps is it somebody? Else?
30:29
Speaker 1: Uh but you know we saw that. Hard, Yeah Michael,
30:32
Speaker 1: carter it would it Would it would sort of help
30:34
Speaker 1: them if they're a little bit quicker and more, athletic
30:37
Speaker 1: uh than they were at the end of last, year
30:39
Speaker 1: because they got exposed by by, badly. BADLY i mean
30:43
Speaker 1: there was a lot OF i, mean who caught even
30:46
Speaker 1: the full back caught like seven? Passes did he? Not
30:49
Speaker 1: he had a bigger game you did in the? Playoffs you,
30:52
Speaker 1: shock he had maybe the seventh, lot but he had
30:55
Speaker 1: a couple of, targets but he had a couple of
30:57
Speaker 1: of of games through the air for. Them SO i
31:02
Speaker 1: Know jennings had a big catch and he killed. Him, Yeah,
31:06
Speaker 1: yeah it was. Rough they made they did what they.
31:09
Speaker 1: Do they got the middle of the field exploited and
31:11
Speaker 1: were able to move the.
31:12
Speaker 3: Chains yeah that yeah real. Quick, okay so.
31:17
Speaker 1: You.
31:18
Speaker 3: Check yeah he killed him in the flat four for forty,
31:20
Speaker 3: nine killing the twenty seven. Yarder.
31:22
Speaker 2: Yeah The DeMarcus robinson just crushed them six for one
31:27
Speaker 2: to eleven and that long touchdown and Then Juwan jennings
31:31
Speaker 2: remember the catch run for forty five.
31:32
Speaker 3: Yards, yeah that that was. Bad.
31:35
Speaker 2: McCaffrey McCaffrey beat them barely six for sixty six for
31:39
Speaker 2: two in the. Air they stopped in the, run but
31:42
Speaker 2: that as you, know as you're alluding, to he's devastating
31:45
Speaker 2: the pass.
31:45
Speaker 3: Game they Just jwan And jennings had that path for the.
31:48
Speaker 1: Touchdown which, yeah.
31:49
Speaker 3: Humiliating.
31:50
Speaker 2: Yep so, yeah this is A it was a terrible
31:52
Speaker 2: performance by The eagles in the. PLAYOFFS i, mean they
31:55
Speaker 2: gave up twenty, three but it was just the impactfulness
32:00
Speaker 2: of some of the plays where they exposed The eagles
32:02
Speaker 2: lack of foot.
32:02
Speaker 3: Speed that's something to be concerned.
32:04
Speaker 1: ABOUT i don't have any faith in This niners offense
32:07
Speaker 1: staying healthy with its, age but if it, does definitely
32:11
Speaker 1: great it's. GREAT i, mean you Got mike could be
32:14
Speaker 1: could be, Great that's What i'm. Saying if it's, healthy,
32:16
Speaker 1: well there's no. Talent the talent is the is. There
32:18
Speaker 1: it's just, health, RIGHT i, Mean Mike, Evans Kirk, pearsall, McCaffrey, Kittle,
32:25
Speaker 1: like that's pretty. DARK i don't know why they drafted
32:27
Speaker 1: by the, way that running back in the really High Kayln, Black,
32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah Kayln.
32:31
Speaker 3: Black you.
32:32
Speaker 2: Know, yeah and they're down And Isaac, grendo who's really
32:35
Speaker 2: explosive but heies doesn't help in the past.
32:37
Speaker 3: Game but here's my on your. Point think about, This
32:40
Speaker 3: kirk big injury, History, piershall big injury, History Mike evans
32:44
Speaker 3: history of hamstring, Problems kittle major injury, History Trent williams
32:48
Speaker 3: major injury. History you're on this age thing on their.
32:51
Speaker 3: Offense you nailed. IT i, mean this Is DeMarcus robinson
32:54
Speaker 3: in his.
32:54
Speaker 1: Thirties, yeah this is it could be like it could
32:59
Speaker 1: be like this is On, stribbling could be, there like
33:01
Speaker 1: their their top wide, receiver.
33:03
Speaker 3: Probably enough to.
33:03
Speaker 2: Play, yeah and broy the Way Brett toath turns Thirty. September,
33:09
Speaker 2: Yes Brett toath.
33:10
Speaker 3: Does.
33:10
Speaker 1: Hello, yeah they're like The commanders of last, year except
33:14
Speaker 1: but the talent is. UNDENIABLE i, mean they've got really good,
33:17
Speaker 1: Players so.
33:18
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna before we clear the close this. Out
33:21
Speaker 2: they're gonna probably be some weeks if they're all. Healthy
33:23
Speaker 2: AND i Know shannon doesn't like playing a lot of.
33:25
Speaker 2: Eleven if you look at all the pass, targets they've
33:28
Speaker 2: Got evans at, Receiver, evans Pearsall, kirk Even robinson stribbling second,
33:33
Speaker 2: round his guy's got to. Play, okay, yep they could go.
33:37
Speaker 2: Eleven maybe they played more. Eleven, LOOK i mean when
33:42
Speaker 2: McVeigh shocks the world and does, it who's this thing?
33:45
Speaker 2: That because that shocked me when he when they became
33:48
Speaker 2: a thirteen personnel. Team, right they led THE nfl and
33:51
Speaker 2: eleven personnel for years and then all of a sudden
33:52
Speaker 2: he turned the. Page so Maybe shannon does run some
33:55
Speaker 2: eleven now real. Quick that's why it's real important here that, yes,
34:04
Speaker 2: Uh degene will be their.
34:05
Speaker 3: Nickels so they're, fine but.
34:07
Speaker 2: If wolle is bad or he is, hurt this is
34:13
Speaker 2: what they're Gonna they also have to know in training.
34:15
Speaker 2: Camp Could Jonathan jones still play at thirty two years?
34:19
Speaker 3: Old, right, agree it's all they.
34:21
Speaker 1: Got they're gonna need a top back up outside corner
34:23
Speaker 1: who you can rely, on, no no.
34:25
Speaker 3: Doubt, yeah he's actually thirty Three.
34:27
Speaker 2: September now the the fallback, option which they're not talking
34:31
Speaker 2: about this, now but it's there if they want. To
34:34
Speaker 2: If woolan is, hurt we're not playing, well And jones
34:37
Speaker 2: looks like he's got The James bradbury. Treatment he can't run.
34:40
Speaker 2: Anymore that's Where degene would have to play. Corner they
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Speaker 2: don't want to do it, right but they can do.
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Speaker 2: It he's there to do.
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Speaker 1: It by the, way there's one player as we close this,
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Speaker 1: out there is a player on The niners roster WHO
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Speaker 1: i didn't even realize was still in the. LEAGUE i
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Speaker 1: can almost not believe. It Eli.
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Speaker 2: Apple oh, YEAH i, know, Right, GOD i talk about
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Speaker 2: talk about old Team Eli apple thirty one In. August
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Speaker 2: so there you. Go though they're they're relatively young on.
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Speaker 3: Offense it's their. Defense you have.
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Speaker 2: Me they're relatively young on. Defense their offense is so. Old,
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Speaker 2: no you nailed.
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Speaker 3: It we'll see if they're one piece by week.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen all, right that game again out In Levi's. Stadium that's.
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Speaker 1: It the last week of the, season of, course is The.
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