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Fism Winner Mortenn Chrisiansen Hates Magic #183 · The Magic Guys

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  They're guys they do magic they are the magic guys,
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  ladies and gentlemen welcome to episode 183 of the magic guys over there wand
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  whistling doug khan in the building oh oh yeah to my to my other shoulder we've
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  got nick k Okay, welcome to the show, friend.
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  The beautiful, bald, I want another B, beast of a man. There we go. I'll be. I'll be.
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  And I'm Josh Dombrito. Welcome to the show where we as professional magicians
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  chat to other professional magicians and talk about our life and the whimsicalness
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  that goes with it. Great to have everyone here already.
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  Tim Askin is ready in the chat. He's good to go.
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  Adonis making my landing. landing
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  i is he going for a poop before he watches is that
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  what he means and we've got i'm not i'm
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  not that hip with the the newest lingo you know you just
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  always go to toilet humor that's all that's what i'm known for you know what
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  else can i yeah what is well what is making my landing mean i mean he's got
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  a dab emoji next to it anyway doesn't matter good to see you guys What an episode
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  we had last week. It did some high numbers on YouTube.
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  Everyone was very interested in particularly Nick's...
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  No, talking about Teller and going to Teller's house and the shenanigans and
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  the sort of inside look on that. Very, very cool.
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  Nick, have you sort of decompressed fully now from Magic Live?
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  Do you feel like? I have, but the cool thing is that if it wasn't for the kindness
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  of Teller and us going to the shows, I wouldn't have met our lovely guests coming
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  on. Oh, very true. Very true.
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  And before you dive into that, because that's what we're here for, really.
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  Nick and I caught up last week in person, which was very cool.
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  And you guys have seen a couple of vids coming out from that already,
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  but there'll be some more.
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  And when I got home, my girlfriend was just so creeped out about how similar
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  we look, both wearing the Magic Eyes shirts and having a clean shaven head.
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  It was kind of funny. funny but well
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  i'm just asking i can't
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  say anything now and then doug makes it three and what a party i wasn't gonna
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  suggest that but whatever look we'll save that for my degenerate mind in the
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  gutter yeah well look it's good to Keep this fucking podcast wholesome.
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  Oh boy. So, but you're absolutely right. It's, you know, one door opens and
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  that opens another door and that, you know, creates just,
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  crazy opportunities like today so
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  nick lead us in what what are we in for today well
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  to lead you guys into it whilst away in vegas and and
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  having a fun time with teller he was kind enough to have
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  both myself and and nathan hedger as a guest to
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  his show and as we arrive to the show we're lining
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  up in all these booths and we go past all these amazing people along
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  the way you know javier benitez was there and so forth and
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  i see this lovely gentleman sitting there in a booth by himself and we'll rejoin
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  his group and so we get the conversation and super
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  lovely guy and as we're just engaging in conversation we set
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  up a friendship only to find out that not only is he just a lovely dude he's
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  also a fism champion from the year 2022 in comedy magic and over the days the
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  reigning fism champion of comedy magic exactly right and not only that i had
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  the pleasure of seeing his act,
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  of which he was very humble about because it was one of the most spectacular things I've ever seen.
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  And he was kind enough to come and have a chat with us here on the pod.
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  So please join me in welcoming, all the way from Denmark, at a very,
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  very late hour that he woke himself up for.
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  He's pumped himself full of caffeine to give you guys a wonderful interview.
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  Join me in welcoming Morten Christensen. Let's begin.
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  Music.
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  All right round of applause tiger woods for this one yeah,
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  morton did i get your name right yes do you
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  want to explain what what was your feeling watching last week's episode when
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  nick brought you up i i listened to the last episode just to yeah to know what
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  the show is and hear nick's version of magic live and then he He mispronounces my name seven times.
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  Asks, Morteen or something? Morteen?
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  I'm like, what, dude? We met each other and it's Morten.
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  Well, in my defense, I have this habit. I have this habit.
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  Whenever I hear something, when I learn it, it's like that's how I hear it,
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  right? So, for example, YouTube.
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  YouTube is YouTube. T-O-O-B. Because that's when I first heard it and I kept saying it. YouTube.
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  It's tube with a chair it's just i don't know if it's part of my learning disability
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  or whatever else but it's like i get it also and they hear me say my name to
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  you and you heard my name being presented on stage loud the next performer morden
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  christiansen and you still chose to say,
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  morty mortine i feel he told
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  me his name was mortine and keep me we hung out
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  in very loud environments at magic shows
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  we went rocking out down fremont street where people
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  were trying to whip you that was a fun time but
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  before we get into those stories please tell our audience who you are and what
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  you do oh my name is morden and i'm a magician i'm from denmark and i do mainly
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  like comedy stand-up parlor stage magic and i'm pretty decent.
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  When he says decent, he really means he's very decent.
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  No, it was really weird when I first met Nick at the Pantella show.
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  And he's like, oh, you're also a magician because of Magic Lie was starting
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  in two days. And I'm like, oh, yeah.
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  And he asked, oh, dude, should I know you?
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  And I'm like, no, because I don't have an ego. It would be weird of me to be
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  like, yeah, you should know me.
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  And he's like, yeah, what have you done? done and i
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  hate being the guy that has to say oh i've done
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  this and this so you have to pull it out
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  of me like oh have you have you heard about fism yeah
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  okay yeah i'm i i sort of i sort
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  of won and i'm sort of the world champion
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  like at first place i'm the best in the world it
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  was so and here's here's my trophy yeah so
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  yeah he took he we took a
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  selfie and he had and he he texted it to a group friends and he's like you know
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  this guy and then he got a response like oh yeah more than he's cool so yeah
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  he had to be convinced yeah but still it's more team so that's great yeah yeah you,
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  can just call him nike for the rest of the episode i'll take it.
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  Uh but okay well geez there's so much to talk about in such little time okay
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  how does how does FISM happen?
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  Is that something that someone sort of taps you on the shoulder and they're
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  like, Hey, we think you'd be good for this. What happens? Like, no,
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  specifically like, is there something that you said? I am going there. I have intent.
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  It's going to happen. Or was it kind of like, I fell into FISM because I feel
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  like you're the type of guy that like falls into all of this.
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  Oh yeah. Pretty much. No, I've always competed in, in like local competitions
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  that we did a Danish championship at one point.
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  And I always liked the deadline of having something to show in a competition
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  because I always make my own stuff.
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  So I did that when I was growing up in the magic world.
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  And I'd always loved FISM. I loved the idea of somebody doing their best eight minutes.
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  And I never thought I ever would be good enough to even compete.
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  And because I'd won a few competitions here and there.
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  And fizzum was postponed a
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  year when i was doing when i was going to do it and i
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  had a friend that was like hey you should do it you're the only
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  danish magician that will ever have a chance and i'm
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  okay fine and i i got they they extended the deadline for the for entering the
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  competition and and then my club sponsored me and i went and i did not expect
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  to win i didn't like i thought okay I might have some decent original stuff,
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  but yeah, I did not expect the very...
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  Now, you won for comedy. Did you enter for comedy, or is that something that is chosen?
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  So there's a comedy contest.
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  Yeah, there is a – they have the category for that.
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  But nobody's won it for – 12 or 20 other comedy acts on a contest bill?
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  Is that how that happens?
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  Yeah, so at FISM, they shuffle all the acts, So you see somebody in manipulation,
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  you see somebody on in illusions.
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  And so you don't really, you don't just see 12 acts in comedy in a row.
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  That's gotta be brutal because if they're not coming up after six duds. Yeah.
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  And usually a lot of the comedy magic is like a parody of magic and like dumb.
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  Yeah. Yeah. And nobody's won the comedy category for 10 years when I entered.
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  Interesting. Because you still have to earn the points to call yourself the world's champion.
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  Because of the point system, nobody's gotten the points in that category for 10 years.
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  And I even think the last guys that won, I think they were moved over into comedy.
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  I'm not sure, but I think that's what happened.
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  Because FISM will move people around if they feel like they fit better in a
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  different category and they can get it.
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  That's kind of why I ask. I got the sense that maybe people weren't competing in a comedy contest.
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  But now I understand more about the... The act that got the second place under
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  me, they were actually in illusions.
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  But they were moved over into comedy because they were funny and they had enough
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  points to earn a second place.
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  But I entered specifically into comedy because I'm a stage performer and I didn't
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  fit in manipulation and illusions and all this stuff.
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  So I'm like, oh, I'm going to do comedy.
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  If they had like a close-up comedy, I would have entered that one. So, yeah.
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  Yeah, wow. So cool. I feel like, you know, you could have done manipulation
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  if you had done your bag act. That is hilarious.
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  A clip I've seen of you with, you know, talk about a nest of boxes. I mean.
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  Yeah. So you've been competing for, you've done a few of these, right?
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  Leading, this isn't your first rodeo. Can you talk a little bit about it?
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  It's my first, like it was my first like big international competition because
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  I'd done like, we had a junior convention here in Denmark, which I,
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  which I did when I was a kid.
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  And then I did the Danish championship a bunch of times. And then I did the
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  Scandinavian, like the Nordic championship.
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  And that's like the only international thing I did.
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  It but that competition is with like
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  they don't play by fism rules so
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  the point system is not the same so i
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  didn't know when i when i went to fism what is my
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  points like i had a few friends that have
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  done international competitions so they knew where they what
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  level of points they would usually earn and they
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  knew what to work on and i had no idea like i
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  didn't know how good or bad
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  my act was within that point system
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  so when i won i was very surprised what
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  are some of the criteria of those points that it's based on is it like
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  entertainment value is it originality do you
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  know what the fact is yeah it's all of that yeah yeah yeah at some
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  point i did it's like six things and it is it is like yeah originality the magic
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  atmosphere the technique stuff like that but i I didn't know because like I
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  like my act is there's a lot of misdirection in my act and it's a difficult thing to like,
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  because that is a technique, but it's how would you judge that?
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  Where if you see a manipulator use, you can see the technique because we know what to look for.
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  But in misdirection, like if you were not fooled by the misdirection,
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  does the technique work or do you have to pretend that it worked or so?
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  I didn't really know what I was getting into. But yeah It worked but I'm still
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  surprised That I have a FISM first place Trophy on my shelf.
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  I'm as good as all the other guys. Me and Sean Farquhar and Nobè Ferrer and
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  all these people, we're the same.
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  We're there. I love him so much. Yeah, he's the greatest. And I'm as good as him, clearly.
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  Eric Chen, I'm as good as Eric Chen.
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  I know I'm two times as big as a little Chinese person.
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  That was not supposed to sound like that. I'm the same.
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  It's funny because We had a conversation about that, about folks coming to me
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  and saying, oh, you do Magic, I do Magic. We're the same.
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  And you're like, no, we're not.
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  Yes, we are the same. But that's what I mean. I'm not as good as – I've never
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  met Eric Chen, but he's so amazing.
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  And people like that – yeah, I have a trophy that says I have the same points.
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  I'm at the same level, but we're not the same. And it's weird,
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  like, being in that club that all of these people, I love these people.
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  Like, Nobe Ferreira is amazing.
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  And, like, Sean Fakwa has won, like, the Grand Prix in first place,
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  second place, third place.
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  Like, he's been at the top for years before winning.
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  And I'm just this dumb kid from Denmark that's like, oh, I can do misdirection pretty well.
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  Maybe I can win. Yeah.
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  Well, we just got to think about it like a different styles of music. Okay.
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  Comedy is one style of music. It might be the punk rock of the music realm.
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  You know what I mean? It might be like the heavy metal. There might be the Britney
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  Spears, you know, I don't know what Sean Farquhar would be.
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  He would be like the Michael Bolton of magic. You know what I mean?
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  They're all brilliant in their own way, but I don't think that,
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  you know, one makes Michael magic. Is that where you go? Yeah.
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  Michael Bolton with Magic? You know, like just a great classic,
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  absolute bangers. You know what I mean? I just feel like he lives in that realm.
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  And I do believe they're both from Canada. So that's why I brought that up.
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  But I wanted to circle back to originality. I can see that. Yeah.
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  Okay, well, he's a Celine Dion. He's a Celine Dion of Magic.
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  Is that better? Okay. I like that better, actually.
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  I wanted to circle back to your originality because if anyone who has seen your
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  act, it is entirely original and brilliant.
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  And one of the things that I found really awesome is that a lot of the techniques
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  that when you see things of FISM quality,
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  it's that they're using techniques or ideas that haven't been created before
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  or aren't available on a shelf somewhere.
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  And I was hoping we could do a bit of a deep dive into that realm because you
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  do some stuff that I don't know where it comes from.
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  I just know it's brilliant. brilliant and and what does
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  your brain do does your brain go hey wouldn't it be cool if and
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  then you get pen paper double stick
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  tape fishing wire and and a chicken and make
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  it happen like what's the deal yeah i don't
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  know like i've i like magic and i've always
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  been interested in creating things like not
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  to be like look what i've made i'm i'm so original but
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  like just making stuff of building things
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  whenever i got into magic and bought a gimmick like
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  for some trick i would always try and remake it to
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  understand that gimmick more and to also know
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  if it broke i had the ability to make another one so
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  i'd always just made my own things and i
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  don't like doing other people's stuff on stage it feels so weird and fake to
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  me to get credit for something i didn't do and magic is weird in the beginning
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  like getting credit for like look I'm the greatest magician in the world and
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  maybe the secret is oh you lifted two cards at the same time.
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  So that part I've always like struggled with. And so see, and seeing people
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  go on these Gatan shows and just with the trick they bought for like $15 and
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  you're the best magician ever.
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  Like I, I, I, I hate that. I, it feels so fake to me getting credit for something I didn't do.
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  So I've always just made my own stuff and my fism act is yeah.
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  Everything in it is pretty much something I've made from, from yeah.
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  Nothing. thing has that been the case for all of your competitions that
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  you've done have you stuck with the
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  original material yeah yeah i i've i've
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  i never perform anybody else's material on stage
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  i i i literally get like feel sick doing it it feels so weird getting credit
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  for something i didn't make or say or like invent or something even though i
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  know that's pretty much how our business business works you buy a trick you
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  put a little bit of your own spin on it but you you're still,
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  for me, you're still just lying.
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  And especially if you throw on a bullshit presentation of, oh,
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  my dad once said this and blah, blah, blah.
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  But it's okay to have Michael Bolton singing classics wonderfully, right? You know? Yeah.
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  It's maybe not the tier that you want to equate Sean Farquhar with,
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  but we can have this art existing in the world. Yeah.
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  Just play a little devil's advocate so everyone in Magicdom
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  doesn't feel bad right now because i mean oh they should feel
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  bad i'm feeling bad originality
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  is the way no doubt about it a million
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  percent but we need to let you know we need to
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  have room for you know yeah really well
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  room for room for everybody because this
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  like this hobby or this
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  art of magic is so big that can be the
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  guy that just knows a few tricks and that's fine and but
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  that's also why it's difficult me and nick talked about this that we're not
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  all the same that because if you just buy five tricks and like magic you can
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  call yourself a magician but you're not the same as that's me or you guys there's
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  there's a difference but we just use the title magician,
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  so yeah i i want to do stuff that
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  i've made otherwise i don't see the point of being on stage it could just be
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  the other people like the the the other guy going to the magic shop and buying
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  five tricks and and i see that i work in a magic shop i see how easy it is to
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  spend two hundred dollars and
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  you can have an act and i know people and i think it's embarrassing and
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  for for them and for the art that they have spent two hundred dollars and they
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  have a show and they do cruise ships they do things all over the world and like this is so embarrassing.
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  Well, it's interesting for sure. I think, you know, if we play devil's advocate,
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  isn't it still nice that the world is seeing beautiful magic,
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  even if it is them as a cover band for someone else's effect?
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  Yeah, but is it beautiful to see somebody just do a trick they bought and taking the credit?
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  And the whole cover band thing, I think, is an interesting comparison.
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  But the problem is that the people don't know they're seeing a cover band.
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  If I see a cover band, I know, oh, this is a song by this person,
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  but they do it beautifully.
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  Where in magic, they don't know that, oh, he didn't invent this.
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  They will just assume that, oh, this is yours.
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  And especially on those talent shows or whatever, they'll just assume,
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  oh, you're the greatest. Oh, you came up with this. You're so good, creative.
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  So I think that's a problem. So what should be, and I'm only saying this stuff
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  because I like your thoughts on this.
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  What should be the barrier where it becomes it
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  should only be original material is it when
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  you're on tv like what level is it should you
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  stop because obviously you have to learn from the people
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  before us but at what point do you think the
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  level should be okay from here on it has to be
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  your work oh i think when you're doing
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  it professionally yeah yeah if you were
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  setting something up like a business of being a magician
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  or setting up a public show or doing stuff on tv i
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  think that should be your own stuff if i
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  could choose in a world where i decided everything
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  that is how i would do it so i knew like if i saw a person setting a show up
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  i know oh i'm gonna see his act what he made but that's just not not how it
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  is like so many people just do instagram magic or do tv magic and don't know
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  what they're doing and i i i.
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  Yeah i'm i don't like that but yeah i get it because we're in this this art
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  of yeah you can buy a thing and you can have a show and i so because i work
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  in a magic shop i see whenever,
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  people are gonna put a show together like if a let's famous actor or comedian
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  or somebody's gonna put a live tour together a lot of them go to the shop and
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  it's like oh i'm gonna i have the
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  live show but i want something a little bit different can you can you
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  can i buy something and they will buy an illusion or they'll
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  buy a trick and and suddenly there's a magic act in
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  this show from a guy that's known
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  as an actor or comedian or something like that so i'm i'm sad that our art is
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  something you can just purchase and do okay tim well tim makes it if sorry yeah
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  if i could can just bounce off that as well because because i was in a band
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  myself crap i would often say that.
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  Thank you i would often say that you
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  know this is a this is a cover song by whatever else and
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  i feel that magicians should be able to do the same where it's like this is
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  a wonderful routine that i learned from eric jones it was taught to him by mike
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  gallo and it's it's a beautiful piece can i share it with you guys and they
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  go yes it uses four coins and you do the routine i think it's cool to do Rod
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  Stewart will do that in a very intimate setting,
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  and I think everyone should be able to do that and present their,
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  share the magic by all means.
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  But it's just when people boastfully say, I'm this, and I create this,
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  and I'm blah, that's where the lines get blurred.
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  Not because we shouldn't be performing other people's magic,
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  but just because it's a little bad for the ego.
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  Because the ego will tell itself that, no, I'm this great because I purchased something. thing.
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  But what happens is when the ego is fed too much, it kills growth.
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  It kills your growth as a person. The relationship between ego and growth,
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  it's a tug of war between the two.
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  And the only way to kill ego is to focus on growth.
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  So if you try to focus on growing as a magician and getting better and creating
• 23:44
  your own stuff, the ego gets crushed.
• 23:46
  And it's only through creating your own stuff and growing that you'll end up
• 23:50
  being someone like Morton who who can lecture and share their thoughts.
• 23:56
  I lectured last night at the Magic Circle with stuff that I'd created to help other people.
• 24:00
  And it wasn't even me saying, do my stuff. I said, here's a blueprint.
• 24:04
  To a routine i do and you can make it your own just inject these four things
• 24:08
  and it's now your own routine so that's kind of important if you want to actually
• 24:14
  propagate magic forward but,
• 24:16
  outside of the originality and the copying you do comedy and we all know in
• 24:20
  the comedy realm that people copy jokes as well and so dragoteer asked an interesting question where,
• 24:28
  when it comes to comedy magic what comes first the magic or
• 24:31
  the jokes and then furthermore what happens
• 24:34
  when folks copy jokes like at
• 24:37
  least in the the circles i run that comedians
• 24:41
  are way better at like stopping people
• 24:45
  from stealing because comedy is stand-up comedy especially is so honest and
• 24:51
  so vulnerable that they just have the jokes so if you steal somebody's thing
• 24:56
  they will they will stop you and they will won't give you a spot or they like you'll be be shamed.
• 25:02
  So people don't steal. And that's how I got into performing.
• 25:06
  I started as a kid wanting to do comedy, stand up comedy, sketch comedy,
• 25:11
  like being an entertainer in that way.
• 25:14
  Magic was never my intention to be put on stage.
• 25:17
  I had magic as a hobby, but thought, to be honest, and I still feel this way.
• 25:21
  I think magic is really boring because.
• 25:24
  If you take the secret away, so many magicians have nothing left.
• 25:30
  They're bad performers.
• 25:31
  They have this small thing they hide behind that makes them be like,
• 25:37
  oh, look at me, but they don't really have anything.
• 25:40
  And I think if you close the ball magic shops tomorrow, 80% of magicians will
• 25:45
  stop because they, oh, I can't buy the nearest thing.
• 25:48
  They can't invent anything themselves.
• 25:52
  That's fine. yeah i think if
• 25:56
  you write your own stuff i think if
• 25:59
  you just made a double cross disappear overnight there would
• 26:02
  be yeah 10 less magicians yeah because
• 26:05
  a lot of magicians and i'm guilty of this will like
• 26:09
  to buy toys because oh i get a
• 26:12
  new thing and you play with it you show it and you
• 26:14
  get credit you show it to your parents your girlfriend your friends
• 26:17
  strangers and you're like oh look at this and
• 26:20
  you you get credit and you get applause or
• 26:24
  whatever for something i'll tell you a big that is a nice
• 26:27
  feeling the magic community itself the
• 26:30
  clubs and the conventions kind of
• 26:33
  inbreed this vibe of we need new material every month to show our peers and
• 26:39
  it's really a bad process i mean i guess it's it's nice to have a goal to develop
• 26:45
  material and such but yeah looking Looking towards a professional viewpoint,
• 26:50
  what happens in the magic clubs is not the most beneficial towards reaching
• 26:54
  artistic goals like you speak of. No, no, no, no.
• 26:58
  And hanging with magicians is usually not that great for coming up with stuff
• 27:04
  because it's just a lot of like a shoulder tapping like, oh,
• 27:07
  you're great and this is good.
• 27:09
  And we all ignore this is this is the double.
• 27:13
  Keep saying that. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it's something glad-handing.
• 27:17
  Everyone loves everybody, and everything you do is great.
• 27:21
  Yeah, and nobody wants to tell, oh, you flashed, or I saw this.
• 27:25
  We all just pretend, like, oh, I see what you were going for,
• 27:29
  and don't tell them. Let's just tell them they're boring.
• 27:32
  Yeah. That was a boring performance. There's no hook. There's no joke.
• 27:38
  I've been in that situation so many times where I like to be better.
• 27:42
  I like my friends, my colleagues to be better.
• 27:45
  So I'll tell them like, oh, you flashed here. I saw this, but they will take it as an insult.
• 27:50
  Some of like most of the times they'll be like, oh, yeah. And they won't listen.
• 27:56
  And when I got into magic and especially doing the competitions early on,
• 28:00
  I have a lot of stage fright and I really hate doing new stuff.
• 28:05
  But I never felt that when doing a competition.
• 28:08
  And I know many people will feel the opposite, that they don't like performing
• 28:11
  for magicians. But I really liked it because performing for magicians,
• 28:15
  I'm not afraid of flashing.
• 28:16
  I'm not afraid of it going wrong because it's in front of my friends,
• 28:20
  people that will help me. They will say, oh, you flashed here.
• 28:24
  And then I can make it better for my actual audience.
• 28:28
  But most magicians will take it as an insult. And so hanging with magicians
• 28:33
  is not really the best way to go because they won't give honest feedback.
• 28:38
  And I've done this all the time. I will ask for notes, I'll ask for feedback, and I will do that.
• 28:45
  Now it's just a habit i'll do it after pretty much any show
• 28:48
  when i have a friend or somebody i know even
• 28:51
  the audience i'll just ask the audience if that person comes up and
• 28:54
  say oh great show whatever i'll say oh what what was
• 28:56
  your favorite part what didn't you what was the part you
• 28:59
  didn't like or whatever or did you
• 29:02
  see and i'll ask my my perspectives if they came
• 29:05
  up to me and like oh great show and they clearly want to talk because
• 29:08
  they enjoyed the show they like me as a person whatever i i
• 29:12
  can easily just ask them oh did you see something you
• 29:14
  shouldn't have seen which is also a friendly way of like
• 29:18
  letting them know that this is not i'm not
• 29:21
  god it's not oh i'm so cool you
• 29:24
  can't you can never figure this out if they if they have
• 29:26
  a note even if they think i have
• 29:29
  a trick in my show right now which which i'm closing
• 29:32
  with and i asked like oh how do you what you think about
• 29:35
  this and the guy just said oh because it
• 29:39
  was just it's such a strong ending but he just assumed
• 29:42
  it was a different method because he he couldn't figure
• 29:45
  anything else out and he was like oh maybe you just did this and suggested
• 29:49
  a worse method but i'm like oh if he thinks that
• 29:52
  could be the method i then have to change so he
• 29:55
  can't even suspect that even though that's wrong but if
• 29:58
  he thinks that's the method that's good enough for him to think
• 30:01
  he figured it out so getting feedback back from
• 30:04
  magicians people you trust and lay people very important
• 30:09
  and and i will take that and and speaking.
• 30:12
  About like getting better and ego i don't have an ego i just want to do my best
• 30:17
  so i i'm always working and it seems weird that like i'm the fizzle world champion
• 30:25
  best magician in the world whatever and but i'm never finished with that act i'm still.
• 30:31
  Refining it changing small things which i
• 30:33
  didn't need to do in if like because i've
• 30:37
  won the biggest competition in my field i have
• 30:39
  no reason to make that act better or change
• 30:42
  anything because it is it has done what it should be it is pretty good but you
• 30:49
  can always do better always change something i just did a trick i've been doing
• 30:53
  for 10 years and a few weeks ago i find a found a way to make it so much better.
• 31:00
  And I hate myself for like, oh, it took 10 years and I've even put it out on video.
• 31:05
  I've published my work on this trick and I just figured out oh,
• 31:10
  this is much better handling of it. So nothing is ever done.
• 31:13
  And I think telling yourself something like that, like, oh, this is done.
• 31:16
  This is, that's what stops you from being creative. You're never done.
• 31:20
  Never. Exactly. Because you always get better and yeah. There's always something
• 31:26
  to be done. You're never finished.
• 31:29
  Getting back to the jokes and comedy and stuff, I think I don't know what comes
• 31:35
  first because I'm just, at least in my opinion, I'm just a really funny guy.
• 31:41
  No, but the stuff I make and the stuff I do in my daily life, I'm just the funny guy.
• 31:47
  I will look at things in a funny way.
• 31:51
  So for me, comedy magic is the most natural thing for me to create.
• 31:55
  And it's not necessarily here's jokes or here's whatever because usually comedy
• 32:01
  magic becomes a parody of magic you're making fun of the magic and some of the things that i
• 32:07
  value very highly is that magic is
• 32:10
  never the butt of the joke that i'm not making fun
• 32:13
  of magic because i really love magic i love practicing
• 32:17
  on like really dumb skills they will never see so
• 32:20
  making fun of it is weird why
• 32:23
  would i go up on stage and be like oh look i know magic oh
• 32:26
  i'm so weird why did i do this like that doesn't fit and i will never i'll never
• 32:32
  sacrifice a trick for a laugh like and it never becomes prop comedy magic like
• 32:39
  oh look it's just whatever it's an electric deck isn't that funny like because
• 32:44
  it's not my style but you can do that if you want,
• 32:47
  so I always make strong magic and then make it funny but if you're not a funny
• 32:52
  performer don't try and do comedy magic because that's really awkward if you're
• 32:56
  not funny why would you want to force it,
• 33:00
  but like at least here in Denmark Rune Klan very famous comedy magician and
• 33:06
  he's like famous and he's like famous.
• 33:08
  Everybody knows him and that also makes every
• 33:11
  magician wanting to be like him so for a
• 33:13
  while for years everybody was trying to do his
• 33:16
  they were sounding like him they were doing his stuff what he did on tv they
• 33:21
  would buy and then years ago a guy became really famous as a mentalist like
• 33:27
  darren brown style and then everybody wanted to be like him and again if you're
• 33:32
  not a funny guy don't try Try and be a funny guy.
• 33:35
  And if you're not a mentalist, don't do that. I can't pull off mentalism.
• 33:39
  I've read a lot of mentalism and I like the field.
• 33:42
  I can't pull it off. I'm two meters and look like a goofy idiot.
• 33:48
  I'm just funny looking. I look like a giant baby.
• 33:52
  So I can't pull off mentalism. Oh, I will now read your mind. How creepy is that?
• 34:01
  Yeah. Well, what I don't think anything comes first. If it's the joke or the
• 34:07
  trick, that's just the feeling of the trick.
• 34:09
  In my opinion, what I make is always just a funny trick.
• 34:13
  How does one find their personality? Do you think Morton?
• 34:17
  So for example, I've, I've had guys that have asked me for gigs and I've employed
• 34:20
  them and put them in my residencies.
• 34:22
  And then I've, I've got the worst feedback about them. Like,
• 34:25
  Hey man, like it's just, you weren't bringing the vibe and they go,
• 34:28
  no, I'm trying to be more of the debonair type guy. and I just want to be like
• 34:32
  really still and stoic. Tell us what it's like to fire a magician. Yeah.
• 34:38
  But it's just, you know, they want to be something and by nature they're not.
• 34:43
  Do you think it's interesting to just say like, I want to create a character
• 34:47
  or just to be yourself or be a higher version of yourself?
• 34:52
  But it's a weird situation because a lot of magicians,
• 34:57
  and I know I'm going to piss people off, but if if
• 35:00
  you get angry i'm right because you you got hurt
• 35:03
  a lot of magicians is just shitty people
• 35:07
  not in that way but like you get into magic because you get a hobby you get
• 35:12
  you suddenly oh i'm the magician guy and you you get a lot of positive attention
• 35:18
  maybe from like women or whatever it is you you it's a thing you suddenly just
• 35:23
  bought a personality which means saying your
• 35:26
  character saying your thing like oh
• 35:29
  this is what i'm going for yeah but you don't have a personality without
• 35:32
  the magic so yeah so a lot of people don't have and i not that i'm better than
• 35:42
  anybody else i'm not like i'm i can find so many reasons why i'm shitty and
• 35:48
  i will work on knows, I promise.
• 35:50
  But I struggled with that for years.
• 35:54
  Like, who am I? What am I going to... Why am I getting on stage? Why not anybody else?
• 36:00
  Because I care and want to be the best person I can be.
• 36:05
  I don't just want to clap and get people like, oh, like me, please.
• 36:10
  So the whole thing of developing a character and going for a certain style is
• 36:14
  a weird thing to do if you don't know who you are.
• 36:18
  So the character I play, if I, let's call it that, is just who I am,
• 36:25
  how I would naturally act. and then I've changed a few things to make it an act.
• 36:33
  But I also have that one character in reality that I can play.
• 36:40
  I can't be like, oh, I'm going to make an act where I'm Darren Brown and I can
• 36:44
  just look at you and I know everything about you because even though,
• 36:47
  yeah, I could learn all the tricks, I could make the script,
• 36:51
  it'll never play for me because I don't look like that.
• 36:54
  And I can't, I can't, I can't live it.
• 36:57
  So having a character is really difficult.
• 37:02
  Even, even Darren Brown himself talks about when he first started magic,
• 37:07
  he didn't know who he was and he thought he had to be a serious closeup performer.
• 37:13
  And he would walk around the restaurant, like giving everyone that the nod.
• 37:17
  He's still evolving though. I think, I think he's still an evolution of him.
• 37:21
  Absolutely. but even performers will do
• 37:24
  that 100 i think yeah
• 37:27
  it's an ever-evolving discovery right but
• 37:30
  i think and i think like a lot of people we've had on before
• 37:33
  and and it sounds like same with uh with with uh
• 37:36
  morton nick morton is that you
• 37:40
  sort of draw from your life experience
• 37:43
  then that sort of should be what
• 37:46
  comes into your acts like with stand-up comics they're they're
• 37:49
  running themselves themselves yeah unless
• 37:53
  you like unless you're like a good actor or
• 37:55
  like i like a lot of comedy which is
• 37:58
  just weird like the the one-liner guys that just says weird shit and you don't
• 38:05
  know if they mean it or not but it's that's a difficult thing to pull off unless
• 38:10
  you you are that weird in reality which some of them are because i know a few
• 38:14
  people but it is it's difficult to have a character.
• 38:17
  And again, I think if you take away the magic shops from people,
• 38:21
  there's a lot of magicians that don't have anything left.
• 38:24
  And if you take away the secrets, there's nothing. I once was...
• 38:30
  Somebody was telling me the story about like how like an audience would like judge magic and,
• 38:36
  most people would just look at the trick and be like oh the trick worked he
• 38:40
  must be a good magician that that is what the only thing they judge the performance
• 38:44
  like oh the trick worked oh he was pretty good then this is this formula for
• 38:50
  the cw masters of illusion show that's been running for 10 years in America.
• 38:55
  Yeah. Trick, trick, trick, trick magic show. Trick, trick, trick, trick, trick. Yeah.
• 38:59
  Magic is not that entertaining because magic is just, look what I can do that
• 39:03
  you can't. Oh, you can't figure it out. I'm better than you. That is magic.
• 39:08
  And it's not entertaining. That's why I didn't start out wanting to put magic
• 39:13
  on stage because it is, look, I'm going to show you something that you can't
• 39:17
  do and you can't figure it out.
• 39:18
  And I'm better than you. i have this wonderful view
• 39:22
  of morton of you because morton works in a very prestigious magic store in denmark
• 39:28
  but now i just have this very comedic vision of you working the magic shop and
• 39:33
  they're like i would like to buy this invisible deck and you're like why don't
• 39:37
  you learn some he's like the stupid that's for you.
• 39:41
  Come back when you have a presentation I'm really bad at selling magic I'll
• 39:46
  be like yeah sure you can buy that but I will talk people out of it also because
• 39:50
  I don't care if you sell stuff that's not my problem but yeah I'll talk people
• 39:54
  out of buying it and be like oh this is not that great,
• 39:57
  one of my mentors Cellini said there should be four magic shops one on each
• 40:01
  corner of the globe run by grandmasters that's it that's how you have magic,
• 40:06
  but yeah but if you take away the secrets from so many people they'd have nothing
• 40:10
  left where if you because if if i if i if somebody let's say a shitty magician
• 40:16
  just think of somebody and he was doing table hopping and i walked behind him
• 40:20
  and told oh he's doing a double lift it's in his pocket it's in his palm whatever.
• 40:25
  First of all, I'll be a jerk and I'll ruin the performance, but also he has nothing left.
• 40:30
  If everybody is as smart as me, as a magician, if you audience,
• 40:35
  if we assume the audience is as smart as magicians, there's nothing left.
• 40:40
  That's why it's so boring for us to see a magician at the local magic club because
• 40:45
  he brings nothing to it and he flashes all the moves.
• 40:47
  And if that's the way the lay people look at what we're doing,
• 40:51
  we have nothing where if you were a good performer, you didn't need the secrets.
• 40:56
  You just had, oh, look, I can also do this, but I'm also a charming person that
• 41:01
  knows how to act as a person.
• 41:04
  And that's why I'm sure all of the people you look up to, all the people I look
• 41:08
  up to is people that does not need the magic.
• 41:10
  Magic like williamson is that we all
• 41:13
  know williamson is the best and i i don't
• 41:16
  care about him doing a trick because he's a
• 41:19
  nice guy and he's funny like tom mullick
• 41:22
  is my favorite magician of all time and i don't even
• 41:25
  know what he's doing if you ask me name three tricks i have
• 41:28
  no idea the cigarettes and that's it i've seen
• 41:31
  his as the the showtime at the tom fruley
• 41:34
  like thousands of times i have no idea what he's doing because
• 41:37
  he's just funny he's a clown he's good at performing where
• 41:40
  that comes to mind of one of
• 41:43
  the great theatrical modern original and i don't know what he does but i've
• 41:49
  seen him perform and he's great yeah i don't care about what he's doing you
• 41:54
  know there's also it's like he's not going like tricky trick trick trick it's
• 41:58
  it might be three tricks in 45 minutes yeah yeah but there's also the other side of that way you.
• 42:03
  The other side of that is when you're among other magicians who
• 42:07
  you might be sharing something a technique and they
• 42:10
  go you just you don't need to do that mate what do you you know
• 42:12
  you don't need to do this side still you could just do a double and a
• 42:15
  double undercut and a this and a that like there's some people
• 42:18
  who are actually trying to be very restrictive on magic developing
• 42:22
  or just it might seem unnecessary to some degree to them but you know it's like
• 42:28
  for example you know you're going to quit it's like a clip shift it's like i
• 42:31
  do this it's like oh why do that for when you can put it here then do three
• 42:33
  cuts to the table and then do this and it's like oh yeah you i'm gonna Like
• 42:36
  that is one of my things I hate.
• 42:39
  Like I hate magicians. The worst thing a magician can say to me is like,
• 42:42
  oh, this is good enough for like people.
• 42:44
  Or something like that because they don't want to work harder so it's
• 42:47
  just like oh this will fool like people and i hate the
• 42:50
  way of talking down to your audience that way that you're
• 42:53
  like oh this is good enough to fool those idiots yeah
• 42:56
  but like two days ago you didn't know how to
• 42:59
  do magic you bought the secrets why shouldn't they
• 43:02
  be smart i don't i don't have an education i dropped out
• 43:05
  of school after sixth grade like i don't like i'm
• 43:08
  sure they're smarter than me i just spend a lot of of time
• 43:11
  at home having no friends building a little card gaff
• 43:14
  but yeah of course they're smarter than me
• 43:17
  so saying oh it's gonna fool late people it's
• 43:20
  good enough no it's not that's the first of
• 43:23
  all it's insulting to them and it's just lazy not being better and one of those
• 43:28
  things is now let's let's mention i i put out a trick with vanishing ink it's
• 43:32
  gonna be out it doesn't matter but that specific trick if somebody buys it at
• 43:36
  one point is trick i showed it at the magic club Yeah, Morden's Jumbo Car Trick by Morden Christensen.
• 43:42
  I made that trick, and I brought it to my local magic club, I don't know,
• 43:47
  five years ago or something.
• 43:48
  And I had this concept for a trick and for a method and for what I wanted to
• 43:53
  do with it. I showed it to the club meeting.
• 43:55
  And again, there's just a lot of magicians. They're not any good performers.
• 43:59
  It's just a bunch of people, I think 10 people at the time.
• 44:03
  And I showed it, and the feedback was very much like, yeah, why don't you just do a force? Yes.
• 44:09
  And I'm like, you're missing the, you're missing how, first of all,
• 44:12
  like I made a thing that's original that I'm proud of that I want to show,
• 44:16
  but also you're missing the point of how clean it's going to be, what the feeling is.
• 44:20
  Oh, just do a force. Yeah. But then we just stop now and never create anything
• 44:26
  new if it's just like, oh, the force is good enough.
• 44:29
  So I hate that way of thinking. king and and also i
• 44:32
  i stopped bringing stuff to the magic club meetings because
• 44:36
  that's not a nice feeling of oh
• 44:38
  okay i'm i'm hanging out with people that doesn't care
• 44:41
  and i'll just do a force yeah but that's not the trick
• 44:44
  if i just did a force i wouldn't have stood up
• 44:47
  and be like hey can i show you all something but this was because i had a new
• 44:51
  thing so i always wanted to do better and have stuff i'm proud of because otherwise
• 44:56
  i don't need to do it it kind of reminds me of fuck magicians that's you know
• 45:04
  what that's what that's what we have to title this podcast.
• 45:08
  It's lovely to hear some you know some
• 45:11
  you know cold hard truths and it might be a little harder
• 45:14
  than a lot of people want to hear and if you are
• 45:17
  a hobbyist to be that enjoy your magic club enjoy
• 45:20
  your kindred spirits and that part of magic we can
• 45:23
  enjoy magic so many different ways but if you're
• 45:25
  going to put yourself on tv if you're going to enter a magic
• 45:28
  competition if you're going to to present yourself as a professional to the
• 45:32
  paying public then take the time to do better just
• 45:35
  try please to do better and especially these
• 45:39
  days you know with social media you're very
• 45:42
  exposed where if you think you're amazing because you've just put out a video
• 45:46
  of a product you've just bought and then someone sees you do it they're like
• 45:50
  oh that's great and then they scroll and then they see another five magicians
• 45:53
  doing the same thing it becomes a little weird that they're seeing all these
• 45:58
  other people do the thing that they just saw you do.
• 46:01
  And I think originality is what helps you. It's the difference between like.
• 46:06
  Being able to make a living from magic, doing corporate gigs,
• 46:09
  but then actually being able to sell out shows and do festivals and things like
• 46:13
  that is what the difference is between, I think, actually doing original magic
• 46:17
  and building an audience.
• 46:18
  The truth is, we can sit here and be like, oh, be original.
• 46:21
  It's so nice somebody's finally saying, fuck magicians.
• 46:25
  But also the truth is all of what i'm
• 46:28
  saying is not like you you don't need
• 46:31
  to listen to me because you can do what you've always done buy
• 46:34
  tricks put like an instagram video up
• 46:38
  and make a lot of money i'm i'm not
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  even a full-time magician and i'm poor like a
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  lot of people are like oh you won fism you're the world's
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  best yeah but i'm also a struggling artist
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  in that way that i i'm not in it for the money and for
• 46:53
  the fame or for anything but if you want to do that you
• 46:56
  can just buy the newest tricks put them up and and
• 46:59
  do nothing so there's no reason to listen to me which is very sad and i realize
• 47:05
  that so you have a choice you have it you have a choice you can be you got that
• 47:11
  a trophy brother yeah i would imagine you could be a magician i could sell my soul and just.
• 47:20
  Yeah i'm so bad you have a choice everyone you can be a struggling artist that's
• 47:25
  original or you can be a really rich wealthy cover band all right yeah but it's
• 47:30
  up to you there's no reason to listen to me because if you for like it is also
• 47:34
  just because i can't handle showing Showing somebody else's tricks.
• 47:38
  Like I physically don't like the feeling of showing something I didn't make.
• 47:44
  So when people are like, oh, you're good. You're amazing. Ugh, I can't handle that.
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  Well, if you can, if you can stomach that, you should do that.
• 47:51
  Because why listen to me? I'm just a big, dumb Danish guy.
• 47:56
  But where do your influences come from if you're not sort of looking at other
• 47:58
  people's performances or other people's stuff? Do you not look at a technique?
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  You know like the if i could touch upon something i
• 48:06
  don't know if i should say or not but there was a very so a lot of cool stuff where pockets
• 48:09
  were vanishing for example you know yeah i was
• 48:12
  seeing that quite a lot it seems to be like it seems to be
• 48:15
  like the new flavor because even no i think it
• 48:18
  was i think it was just because of those two acts were booked at the same time
• 48:22
  and we have different works on it but when i when i saw we were booked i'm like
• 48:26
  oh okay because even though i'm i came up with it for some reason and he came
• 48:31
  up with like yeah i usually if i work on something and i see somebody else have
• 48:36
  something like it i will put it down.
• 48:38
  I'll work on something else because that's what you do if you have a joke in it.
• 48:43
  Like as a stand-up comedian, you're like, oh, you have something on that.
• 48:46
  I'll just do something else because it's not difficult to come up with stuff.
• 48:50
  You just have to be willing to do it. But a lot of people come up with one thing
• 48:54
  and they'll cherish that too much.
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  So, yeah, I see, of course, I've worked in a magic shop since I was 14.
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  I've been there and seen all the magic. So I've seen everything.
• 49:06
  Everything and and i will just
• 49:08
  soak it all up and learn from it
• 49:11
  but because i know that i will never do something
• 49:14
  just because i saw somebody else kill with it i i learn from it and just have
• 49:20
  it and then i change everything and just bring all the methods in my toolbox
• 49:25
  because my methods are not necessarily original because you can always be like
• 49:29
  oh is it is it this is it this yes but the way I'm using it,
• 49:33
  the way I get into it, the prop that does it now, that's original.
• 49:36
  So the method is never the important part for me.
• 49:39
  But being a performer, showing something original, that is what I'm trying to do.
• 49:45
  Do you find yourself sort of avoiding, I find myself avoiding magic sometimes,
• 49:49
  not wanting to watch it online or not trying to learn it because I don't want
• 49:53
  it to influence something unoriginal.
• 49:55
  Do you find yourself doing that as well?
• 49:58
  It's weird. like when i got into magic and i saw
• 50:01
  everything and i have seen everything i i because i
• 50:05
  like following what people are doing also know what
• 50:07
  no like what not to do because oh
• 50:10
  this is very popular like i i worked on something with a
• 50:13
  rubik's cube 10 years ago and i when that
• 50:17
  got popular i threw my rubik's cubes away just because
• 50:20
  i know knew oh this is everybody's gonna do this it's
• 50:22
  not exciting anymore and i was right it's become
• 50:26
  a new like oh you do coin tricks you do
• 50:28
  card tricks you do rubik's cube tricks so yeah very
• 50:32
  good josh very good like so just
• 50:36
  being willing not to work on something
• 50:39
  because oh there's a different way of doing it and but i've
• 50:42
  seen everything and i use that to then
• 50:45
  create something for myself but yeah i
• 50:48
  i have a i i i whenever i see good
• 50:51
  performers i will always feel like oh i'm so shitty i have nothing to offer
• 50:55
  for so how do you feel when you when you how did you feel when you met nick
• 51:00
  then did you feel pretty good about yourself or did you feel threatened he seemed
• 51:05
  like he had his life together so yeah yeah he does,
• 51:10
  But also, he asked me very quickly. He was like, hey, you want to be on the podcast?
• 51:14
  And I was like, hey, wait till you see my act.
• 51:17
  Because you don't have to book me to do this just because you like me. Please watch my stuff.
• 51:27
  And then I saw the act. And as I'm leaving, he's by the door being like,
• 51:32
  thanks. He was like, it's all right, yeah? It's good?
• 51:35
  And I'm like, yeah, it's really, really good.
• 51:39
  Right please yeah do you
• 51:43
  get an opportunity to perform your act in public venues
• 51:46
  in your country and such are you uh working as
• 51:49
  a professional no denmark is so
• 51:52
  small i think since fism which is pretty
• 51:55
  much two years ago i think i've
• 51:58
  performed in danish 10 times and
• 52:02
  like comedy clubs and small things
• 52:05
  and here and there there's no no places
• 52:09
  really to perform and especially not like a a fism
• 52:12
  act in a in like a variety show setting nothing
• 52:15
  like that so i pretty much two years
• 52:18
  ago shifted to perform only in english making all
• 52:21
  my props when i in my fism act the stuff that says
• 52:24
  something so i the props all made up in
• 52:27
  english and i didn't i don't even have a set for in
• 52:30
  Danish and I was supposed to do it at a convention
• 52:33
  two years ago and I realized like an hour before the
• 52:36
  performance everything was set up in English and I had to remake everything
• 52:39
  so yeah I don't perform here that much which is fine I my English is good enough
• 52:46
  to perform so well speaking of props and and maybe out of the Danish vein what
• 52:53
  is the mystery surrounding the two ducks.
• 52:56
  Yeah. Oh, it's very dumb. So my whole branding or whatever you want to call
• 53:02
  it is I am Morton with two ducks.
• 53:05
  And it is so dumb, because it is just a word play on my name.
• 53:10
  And it's it's not a good one.
• 53:12
  So, so in Denmark, and and I'm also trying to get it to stick when performing
• 53:18
  in English that I am Morton with two ducks.
• 53:20
  Ducks but so the thing is i will enter the stage
• 53:23
  always and i did it in my fullest performance last year
• 53:26
  holding two plastic ducks yeah
• 53:30
  we have a photo of me with two ducks so we'll hold these two ducks and i'll
• 53:34
  walk on stage and in danish i will do this joke which is i'll say it's difficult
• 53:39
  to explain because it is if i say the sentence hello my name is morden with
• 53:45
  two n's because my My name is spelled M-O-R-T-E-N-N.
• 53:49
  If I say, hello, my name is Morden with two N's, it sounds the same as if I
• 53:54
  was saying, hello, my name is Morden with two ducks. And it is so dumb.
• 53:59
  It is a dumb wordplay on my name. And also, that is a wrong way to spell my name.
• 54:05
  Nobody in the world spells Morden that way. That is completely wrong, having the double N.
• 54:11
  And I've legally changed my name to that so I can do that joke.
• 54:15
  And I have to explain it every time I pick up a package at the post office that it's not a mistake.
• 54:21
  That is how it's spelled. And it's so awkward.
• 54:24
  That's how you end up people calling you more teen. They think you're some kind of weird.
• 54:29
  They read it completely wrong. And it's like, oh, was it two N's or two E's? And I, more teen?
• 54:36
  Yeah. Yeah. It's very dumb. But I keep, so I have a lot of props with ducks and stuff like that.
• 54:43
  And i and so on fool as i walk on stage
• 54:46
  and i'm like hello and i look i look very awkwardly
• 54:50
  at the ducks in my hands and i say oh i now
• 54:52
  realize this only works in danish and yeah
• 54:56
  it is so dumb and i i've done shows where people
• 54:59
  have to ask like is is there a joke
• 55:01
  in danish or is it just dumb like that
• 55:04
  there's a joke but it's also dumb people are
• 55:07
  asking could you could could you say it in danish i think they want to hear
• 55:11
  you say duck oh so in danish it would be like if i say hello my name is morden
• 55:16
  with two ducks it'd be like hi hello morden i'll do me to inner inner ah there
• 55:22
  you go and that means means multiple ducks.
• 55:28
  Yeah see that's funny it's so dumb this i have a joke and a whole brand that
• 55:33
  is made for one very small country.
• 55:37
  And it is also a joke that will get that reaction of.
• 55:41
  Because it is so dumb like it's like
• 55:44
  oh i'm forcing them to like this pun oh
• 55:49
  it almost seems more clever it almost
• 55:52
  seems more clever in english when you then say your line
• 55:55
  of i just realized this only works in danish because now to
• 55:57
  us it means you're so clever that you've like
• 56:01
  explained to us idiots in english that it's
• 56:04
  a funny joke in danish even though it might not actually be that funny
• 56:07
  but it's so dumb because the ducks are very like they take up so
• 56:09
  much space in my suitcase but i insist on having them
• 56:12
  like being on fool us last year
• 56:15
  i think that's what got me on because i sent them a video of
• 56:18
  the trick and they're like oh okay it's fine and they're like
• 56:21
  can you send it to us like in a performance and then michael close saw the performance
• 56:25
  and he just died laughing when seeing the duck thing because it didn't make
• 56:29
  sense right so yeah i'm i'm forcing that into everything that i'm more than
• 56:35
  two ducks as this episode is slowly drawing to a close well A couple of things
• 56:39
  I want to touch upon is the products you've released.
• 56:40
  I know you released a really awesome product with CardShark,
• 56:44
  which you can touch upon as well. And obviously, the new product.
• 56:47
  Nope. I did not put anything out with CardShark. No, fuck them.
• 56:51
  Oh. Yeah. It's a long story.
• 56:54
  Technically, there's a trick with my name on, but he completely screwed it up
• 56:59
  and made it something different.
• 57:01
  And don't buy it because I don't make any money here.
• 57:04
  Oh, God. Nope.
• 57:07
  Nope. Oh, that's funny.
• 57:10
  Do we need to dive into this?
• 57:16
  I don't think we have the time. It seems pretty clear. Three years ago,
• 57:21
  I put something out, and we made a deal, and he then fucked me over and put
• 57:25
  it out without my permission and changed everything, and I'm very angry about it.
• 57:28
  But not anymore. I've gotten over it, clearly.
• 57:32
  But yeah, then I've done a masterclass with Vanishing Ink, which you can look
• 57:37
  up and see some of my stuff. It's not...
• 57:40
  Like, if you want to see what's in my apartment and the dumb shit I'm doing,
• 57:43
  you can do that. Again, I don't make any money off it, so I'm really bad at business.
• 57:47
  And then you have a trick, Nick, which I put out with Vanishing Ink.
• 57:51
  It was just pre-launched at Magic Live, and they put it out,
• 57:56
  and there's no instructions for it yet because they they
• 57:58
  didn't do that so hopefully when you're listening to this
• 58:01
  in the future there will be instructions for it and and
• 58:05
  it'll be out sometime this year and it's a pretty good trick
• 58:08
  it's called morden's jumbo car trick by morden christensen and
• 58:11
  that is me i love it all right so look this
• 58:14
  is this is such a great intro to morten's world
• 58:17
  but for anyone who's listening who maybe hasn't seen much
• 58:20
  about morden other than obviously his his force act and
• 58:23
  his fizzle follow me on instagram absolutely so
• 58:27
  his link yeah his instagram is in the bio now morten
• 58:31
  to end every episode we give our guest the final word
• 58:34
  so you've given us many words today and i i love the flavor of it it's very
• 58:38
  refreshing so we're gonna we're gonna pass them on so once again thank you so
• 58:41
  much for joining us and i hope it's not the last time hopefully we can we can
• 58:45
  catch up in person one day and yeah for sure ladies and ladies and gentlemen
• 58:50
  we're gonna leave morten with With the final word.
• 58:57
  Be better. Don't settle. Don't just do stuff.
• 59:02
  But then again, nobody cares. And you shouldn't listen to me. I have nothing.
• 59:07
  I have no money. I have no friends. I live alone.
• 59:11
  And I'm in Denmark. It's not a very nice country. Okay, I'm lying.
• 59:14
  It's a very nice country.
• 59:15
  But, yeah, don't listen to me. But then maybe I think you should. But you shouldn't.
• 59:21
  Because why would you? But I think you should.
• 59:24
  But again, I am nobody. Who cares? Like two years ago, I was nobody.
• 59:28
  And now I'm just nobody with a big fucking glass trophy from FISM because I'm
• 59:32
  the fucking world best. So please listen to everything I've said.
• 59:35
  But then again, you shouldn't really because I'm just a big dumb guy.
• 59:40
  Like I look at, I'm nobody. But please listen. But then again,
• 59:47
  you shouldn't. I'm sorry.
• 59:50
  Thanks for listening it's time for us to disappear now disappear now but we'll
• 59:57
  see you again on the next episode of the magic guys.