Latest / Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison / ROR 136: Battles Worth Fighting
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- 0:26Speaker 1: fourteen years for capital murder right on your state person.
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- 1:09Speaker 2: and fourteen years for capital murder on robbery, currently being
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- 2:26Speaker 1: Today's episode is going to be a listener's response.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Of course, I was asked not to reveal the lady's
- 2:37Speaker 2: name or the guy's name, so I won't do that,
- 2:40Speaker 2: and I won't even reveal the state that they're from
- 2:44Speaker 2: now the lady in question, just to give a little
- 2:49Speaker 2: bit of.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Background of what they're dealing with.
- 2:53Speaker 2: The lady in question comes from a European country and
- 2:59Speaker 2: when she was sent over here back in the day
- 3:04Speaker 2: when she was sixteen, and she was in New York
- 3:08Speaker 2: City at the time, and you know, she she'd met
- 3:11Speaker 2: a guy and you know, they started to date a
- 3:15Speaker 2: little bit. You know, things blossomed a little bit, and
- 3:17Speaker 2: you know, and until the guy found out that she
- 3:20Speaker 2: was underage, and then you know, he immediately broke things
- 3:24Speaker 2: off with her. You know, she wasn't too happy about that,
- 3:29Speaker 2: but it is what it is. And not long afterwards
- 3:33Speaker 2: she had to get she got sent back to the
- 3:36Speaker 2: country that she came from. I apologize if you hear
- 3:42Speaker 2: a little bit of coffin or whatnot. I'm a little
- 3:45Speaker 2: sick at the moment. So Mia Copa. So when she
- 3:51Speaker 2: got back, she actually wrote him some letters, and this
- 3:56Speaker 2: guy actually wrote her some letters, you know, but they
- 3:59Speaker 2: never got the letters for whatever reason, I don't know.
- 4:03Speaker 2: They didn't know, and she didn't tell me an email.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Now things went on, they went.
- 4:10Speaker 2: About their life. This guy, you know, he's from the streets,
- 4:13Speaker 2: and he wound up getting locked up and you know,
- 4:15Speaker 2: doing some.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Time and everything. And she.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Left on through the Make a Wish Foundation and she
- 4:25Speaker 2: was able to go to college in Canada, which is
- 4:30Speaker 2: where she currently lives now.
- 4:33Speaker 1: She has two young children.
- 4:34Speaker 2: And years had gone by and one of her friends
- 4:40Speaker 2: was in a relationship with someone in prison, and she
- 4:44Speaker 2: was like, look, we know this guy who would be
- 4:47Speaker 2: absolutely hands down perfect for you.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Let me introduce you.
- 4:52Speaker 2: And you know, after, you know, giving this some fault,
- 4:54Speaker 2: the lady was like, okay, you know, she's never written
- 4:57Speaker 2: to prisoner before, she'd never thought about it or anything
- 4:59Speaker 2: of that nature. Now she decides to do it, and
- 5:05Speaker 2: lo and behold, this is the same guy that she
- 5:08Speaker 2: had met when she comes to the US back when
- 5:11Speaker 2: she was sixteen and everything. You know, it's the exact
- 5:15Speaker 2: same guy, you know. And this guy had been in
- 5:17Speaker 2: and out of trouble and everything. But around this time
- 5:20Speaker 2: he started turning over a new leaf. He started seeing
- 5:23Speaker 2: that you know, that lifestyle wasn't conducive to the life
- 5:26Speaker 2: he wants to live, you know, So he got out
- 5:30Speaker 2: of the gangs and everything. He uh, he went to school,
- 5:35Speaker 2: you know, through the grants that you know his state provides. Uh,
- 5:40Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, I think he he got his
- 5:45Speaker 2: his paralegal license. You know, he does a lot of
- 5:48Speaker 2: lost stuff to help people and everything in his state.
- 5:52Speaker 2: You know, he's gotten some guys out of prison. He's
- 5:54Speaker 2: you know, got some time reductions and and some other things.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Uh, you know, and he's gotten in trouble for that,
- 6:05Speaker 1: and he's.
- 6:06Speaker 2: You know, been moved out of state a couple of times.
- 6:09Speaker 2: They brought back and back and forth and so on.
- 6:11Speaker 1: And so forth.
- 6:12Speaker 2: But you know, their relationship blossomed. Now she has two
- 6:27Speaker 2: young children, uh, you know, from a previous relationship.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Before they started writing each other and everything. And you know,
- 6:36Speaker 1: he was.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Living in a place that was close enough for her
- 6:39Speaker 2: and them to visit, and she'd wound up taking her
- 6:42Speaker 2: kids to visit and everything. You know, I don't think
- 6:44Speaker 2: she took him one of the you know, the very
- 6:45Speaker 2: first couple.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Of visits, it was just them too.
- 6:47Speaker 2: And then you know, as things progressed and whatnot, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 2: they started to talk on the phone a little bit,
- 6:53Speaker 2: and then the kids came to the visits. And you know,
- 6:55Speaker 2: the kids absolutely love this guy.
- 6:57Speaker 1: You know, he's he's.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Been a positive influence in their life. He's been a
- 7:02Speaker 2: father figure to them when they don't have one, you know,
- 7:05Speaker 2: and uh, like the guy's different, like he's you know,
- 7:09Speaker 2: from everything she's told me in the email. And there's
- 7:12Speaker 2: some things I can't say simply because you know, it
- 7:15Speaker 2: could possibly reveal his identity and whatnot. But I can
- 7:19Speaker 2: tell you right now from someone who's done thirty three
- 7:21Speaker 2: years in prison, a man who does these things and
- 7:25Speaker 2: make you know, he gets these accomplishments, he's not the
- 7:30Speaker 2: same guy he used to be, you know, Like he's
- 7:33Speaker 2: he's grown up, he's matured, and he's doing what he's
- 7:36Speaker 2: supposed to do as a man. You know.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And he'd asked her to.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Marry him and that's the thing. You know, she's she's
- 7:46Speaker 2: not sure if that's something that you know, she wants
- 7:51Speaker 2: to marry him.
- 7:51Speaker 1: It's not that, it's just she doesn't know.
- 7:54Speaker 2: You know, how is that going to affect her life?
- 7:58Speaker 2: How is it going to offend her kid's life? Because
- 8:00Speaker 2: right now they've moved him to another state. It's just
- 8:04Speaker 2: so far away that they can just you know, they
- 8:07Speaker 2: can no longer you know, afford to pay for the
- 8:10Speaker 2: visitation trips because it's expensive. Like, you know, I have.
- 8:17Speaker 1: My buddy Cartoon.
- 8:19Speaker 2: He's got a friend that lives in northern Virginia and
- 8:23Speaker 2: she comes down to visit him every now, and it
- 8:26Speaker 2: costs over two hundred dollars just in gas and some
- 8:31Speaker 2: food and and and you know, just getting a hotel
- 8:34Speaker 2: room overnight. You know, so you're not just you've been
- 8:39Speaker 2: on the road seven hours in the morning, walk straight
- 8:41Speaker 2: into the visitation room. Like guess she's you know, you
- 8:45Speaker 2: you got to get a hotel room at the same time.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So like like this is freaking This is well over
- 8:50Speaker 2: two hundred dollars for her to do it.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It would be.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Well over three thousand dollars from her having to travel
- 8:56Speaker 2: from where she lives and you know, works, and you know,
- 8:59Speaker 2: her kids are to come down and see this guy,
- 9:02Speaker 2: and that's just one visitation, you know. So there's just
- 9:07Speaker 2: all of these questions and everything she has, and you
- 9:10Speaker 2: know she asked me about So I'm going to do
- 9:13Speaker 2: my best. At the end of the day, the heart
- 9:22Speaker 2: wants what the heart wants. You know, that doesn't mean
- 9:25Speaker 2: that you just give into it without a single fault whatsoever,
- 9:29Speaker 2: because that's what gets people in trouble. You know, there's
- 9:33Speaker 2: a reason why the divorce rate around the world, especially
- 9:37Speaker 2: in the industrial world, is so freaking high. It's because
- 9:40Speaker 2: people you know, oh well, my heart wants to so
- 9:43Speaker 2: and they just jump into it without any thought or anything.
- 9:47Speaker 1: You've put a lot.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Of fault into this, you know, yours was a very
- 9:52Speaker 2: very long email, and I mean you discussed a lot
- 9:55Speaker 2: of topics that I haven't even thought of myself.
- 9:59Speaker 1: You know, I didn't even know.
- 10:02Speaker 2: What you think of these questions. So I thank you
- 10:05Speaker 2: for giving me that insight because it has opened my
- 10:07Speaker 2: eyes to some more things in my own relationship with
- 10:10Speaker 2: my wife. You know.
- 10:15Speaker 1: But I have to I.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Have to say, like you two sound absolutely perfect for
- 10:22Speaker 2: one another. You know it sounds like this guy. He
- 10:25Speaker 2: genuinely makes you happy, you know, he for you. It's
- 10:31Speaker 2: you make life worth living for him, and he makes
- 10:34Speaker 2: life worth living for you.
- 10:36Speaker 1: You know.
- 10:37Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter that you're white, It doesn't matter
- 10:40Speaker 2: that he's black.
- 10:41Speaker 1: They screw all that.
- 10:43Speaker 2: You know. I'm white, my wife is black, you know.
- 10:46Speaker 2: And if somebody's got a problem with it, you I'm
- 10:51Speaker 2: not going to live my life according to what you
- 10:54Speaker 2: think is right or wrong. I'm going to live my
- 10:56Speaker 2: life according to what the Bible thinks is right or wrong.
- 10:59Speaker 2: I don't even live my life according to what I
- 11:01Speaker 2: think is right or wrong.
- 11:03Speaker 1: You know, So, don't you know?
- 11:05Speaker 2: If somebody wants to judge you for who you love,
- 11:09Speaker 2: then just cut them off and go on with your life.
- 11:13Speaker 2: You know, they're not real friends if they can't support you.
- 11:17Speaker 2: You know now, And that doesn't mean that you know
- 11:20Speaker 2: a friend shouldn't give you good advice. But it doesn't
- 11:25Speaker 2: mean you know that you get the right to tell someone.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Yet you're not allowed to be in a relationship with
- 11:30Speaker 2: this person simply because of their skin color. This dude
- 11:33Speaker 2: sounds like he's an upstanding man. And if I was
- 11:35Speaker 2: in the prison system with him like we was in
- 11:37Speaker 2: the pard together, like me and this dude would be hanging,
- 11:40Speaker 2: you know, because I want to be around positive people
- 11:43Speaker 2: at the end of the day. I want to be
- 11:44Speaker 2: around people that they can overcome their circumstances, They.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Can overcome their past.
- 11:50Speaker 2: They don't let that stuff chain them and enslave them,
- 11:53Speaker 2: you know, and this guy has certainly done those things
- 11:56Speaker 2: from everything you've told me that he's done. Now, I
- 12:04Speaker 2: encourage you to marry him and just keep working, keep
- 12:10Speaker 2: working and getting him ount you know, go online, try
- 12:13Speaker 2: to garnership support, you know, do do, do whatever it
- 12:20Speaker 2: takes to be with this guy. You know, because at
- 12:24Speaker 2: the end of the day, nothing on this earth is
- 12:28Speaker 2: more important than family.
- 12:31Speaker 1: You know.
- 12:32Speaker 2: It's not money, it's not material things, it's not somebody's
- 12:37Speaker 2: good opinion of you.
- 12:41Speaker 1: It's family.
- 12:42Speaker 2: It's having that person you can love. It's having that
- 12:45Speaker 2: person you can talk to you. It's having that person
- 12:49Speaker 2: who can be there for you when you're struggling, who
- 12:52Speaker 2: you can be there for when he's struggling.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Your kids love him, you know.
- 12:59Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I believe you used the word.
- 13:01Speaker 2: They absolutely adore him, and it's reciprocated. Go for it,
- 13:08Speaker 2: because you only get one life.
- 13:14Speaker 1: That's what I try to teach people in here. You know.
- 13:18Speaker 1: It's it's as.
- 13:19Speaker 2: A matter of fact, literally last night, I'm not going
- 13:23Speaker 2: to use names, but last night, a guy that I
- 13:26Speaker 2: was with at Wallace Ridge just came into the pod
- 13:30Speaker 2: last night.
- 13:32Speaker 1: And he had a dude that was his friend.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Like they were really really tight while we was up there,
- 13:42Speaker 2: and some other dudes from another state.
- 13:46Speaker 1: You know, a couple of dudes from other.
- 13:47Speaker 2: States came to Virginia and the states where they come from,
- 13:53Speaker 2: it segregated. The black stick with the blacks, the Spanish
- 13:56Speaker 2: stick with the Spanish, the white stick with the whites,
- 14:00Speaker 2: and that's the way it is. But that's not the
- 14:02Speaker 2: way it is here in Virginia. So when they came,
- 14:06Speaker 2: they told this dude, like, yo, bro, what you're doing. Man.
- 14:09Speaker 2: You can't talk to that black dude. You can't talk
- 14:11Speaker 2: to that white dude right there. Man, you got to
- 14:12Speaker 2: stick with your own time, you know.
- 14:15Speaker 1: And at the end of the day.
- 14:17Speaker 2: All they really wanted was his job because him and
- 14:22Speaker 2: my little brother Boss Life were the only ones coming
- 14:25Speaker 2: out to work. Because in Virginia, the CEOs, it doesn't
- 14:29Speaker 2: matter if you have a job or not. They don't
- 14:31Speaker 2: care about that. Just collect your paycheck and sit on
- 14:34Speaker 2: your ass and stay out of her way. They work
- 14:37Speaker 2: the people they know are going to work, people that
- 14:40Speaker 2: they don't have to concern themselves with or being. You know,
- 14:43Speaker 2: they're not a security risk. You know, they've known these
- 14:47Speaker 2: people long enough to know how they move, what they do,
- 14:49Speaker 2: what they're willing to do, what they're not willing to do,
- 14:51Speaker 2: so and so forth.
- 14:52Speaker 1: That's what it really boiled down to.
- 14:54Speaker 2: But these other dudes got into his friend's ear, and
- 15:01Speaker 2: because he talked to a black dude, because he talked
- 15:03Speaker 2: to a white dude, his friend wound up stabbing him
- 15:08Speaker 2: in the back, literally literally stabbed him multiple times in
- 15:13Speaker 2: his back. And that's how he wound up getting his
- 15:17Speaker 2: transfer here. He went to medical, done all that stuff,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and then they you know, they brought him here, uh,
- 15:23Speaker 2: you know, just so he doesn't retaliate, so and so forth,
- 15:26Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, he's a gang
- 15:28Speaker 2: member too. But that's the thing, Like these guys came
- 15:35Speaker 2: from another state and tried to force their beliefs, tried
- 15:40Speaker 2: to force the way they want to do things on
- 15:43Speaker 2: people here, and like that's not going to happen, and
- 15:50Speaker 2: he didn't stand for and he wound up geting stabbed
- 15:52Speaker 2: in the back. Sometimes you got to take that stand.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Sometimes you've got to take that risk. And that's my
- 15:58Speaker 2: advice to you take that risk. Screw what somebody else
- 16:02Speaker 2: tells you you should be doing.
- 16:04Speaker 1: They don't know you at the end of the day,
- 16:08Speaker 1: they don't know who you truly, genuinely are.
- 16:10Speaker 2: And it sounds like this guy he does, you know,
- 16:17Speaker 2: So give love a chance to marry this guy and
- 16:23Speaker 2: and make the sacrifices you know it takes to be
- 16:28Speaker 2: with them. You might not be able to move to
- 16:32Speaker 2: this you know, to this country immediately. You might not
- 16:35Speaker 2: be able to move to the state he is.
- 16:37Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's hard to say what happens
- 16:43Speaker 1: because you know.
- 16:44Speaker 2: He might wind up getting transferred out of his state again,
- 16:49Speaker 2: you know, And you said the reason why, you know,
- 16:52Speaker 2: his state does give him a lot of problems because
- 16:55Speaker 2: he helps a lot of guys, you know, not just
- 16:58Speaker 2: file lawsuits, but actually win lawsuits against you know, his state.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Tell him to keep doing that, tell him to stand strong,
- 17:08Speaker 2: you know, to fight the good fight, but also tell
- 17:10Speaker 2: him to be smart and to pick his battles. You know,
- 17:14Speaker 2: you don't need to follow a lawsuit on every single
- 17:17Speaker 2: little thing. Follow the lawsuits on the things that are important.
- 17:25Speaker 2: You know, if there's clear medical negligence, help the guy
- 17:30Speaker 2: write it up and follow.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Lawsuit on that.
- 17:32Speaker 2: But if you know, if the CEO it was mean
- 17:37Speaker 2: to him, you don't need to write of them. You
- 17:38Speaker 2: don't need to write that up. You know, tell the
- 17:41Speaker 2: dude to suck it up and be a man like
- 17:44Speaker 2: you know, so what to do, scream that you who
- 17:46Speaker 2: gives a right? You know you don't like that, then
- 17:51Speaker 2: that's a big problem in the state that I'm in
- 17:53Speaker 2: here in Virginia. You know, you got guys that that
- 17:56Speaker 2: it's actually it's the opposite. They write up the stuff
- 17:59Speaker 2: that they should be righting up. They pushed the issues
- 18:02Speaker 2: on the stuff they shouldn't be pushing, and the issues
- 18:04Speaker 2: that they should like, the food, like the childhalls being cleaned,
- 18:08Speaker 2: you know, actually receiving proper medical treatment. Hell, I've got
- 18:14Speaker 2: a form of bone cancer and the tumor still hasn't
- 18:17Speaker 2: been properly.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Biopsy yet and I've been dealing with this ince twenty seventeen.
- 18:23Speaker 2: But like, the guys won't push paperwork on that they
- 18:25Speaker 2: won't follow lawsuit on.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
- 18:28Speaker 2: But you know, let the CEO be you know, a
- 18:31Speaker 2: couple of minutes late and open the doors for pod
- 18:33Speaker 2: wreck and they go slam the off over that.
- 18:37Speaker 1: You know that, Like right now, you know.
- 18:39Speaker 2: We just had the hues a hurricane of Helene and
- 18:44Speaker 2: like it's wiped out entire towns in this region. You know,
- 18:48Speaker 2: like you've got CEOs up here that literally they not
- 18:51Speaker 2: just lost their homes, they the land their homes was
- 18:55Speaker 2: long got washed away in much slides and all this
- 18:57Speaker 2: other stuff like they've lost family, men, person and they're
- 19:02Speaker 2: sitting there bitching about.
- 19:04Speaker 1: ESPN is out.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Like, man, these people don't give about ESPN right now.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Like they're more than the death of loved ones, you know.
- 19:14Speaker 2: So like you tell this dude to you know, to
- 19:16Speaker 2: be careful and what issues he decides to push, and
- 19:23Speaker 2: that by doing that, a lot of the heat that
- 19:28Speaker 2: the administration is given him will alleviate itself because they'll realize, Okay,
- 19:33Speaker 2: you know what, this guy, he's not just following lawsuits
- 19:36Speaker 2: to be a lawsuit you know, just to be a
- 19:38Speaker 2: jail house.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Lawyer type of blah blah blah whatever. You know, he's
- 19:43Speaker 1: he's picking and choosing his battles.
- 19:46Speaker 2: And when they see a person who picks and chooses
- 19:48Speaker 2: their battles, they tend to stay away from that person,
- 19:52Speaker 2: to leave him alone.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I'm one of.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Those guys now, and it took me a very, very,
- 19:57Speaker 2: very long time to realize that. You know, I no
- 20:01Speaker 2: longer just push issues because I can't. I only push
- 20:05Speaker 2: the issues that are worth pushing. And if you have
- 20:10Speaker 2: one minute remaining, and I only push the issues that
- 20:15Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna win, I don't waste my time
- 20:18Speaker 2: picking fights I cannot win.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Tell him to learn.
- 20:22Speaker 2: That art and things will ease up on him. But
- 20:26Speaker 2: this is all the time I got. I hope I
- 20:29Speaker 2: help you. I encourage you to give it all you
- 20:32Speaker 2: got to make things work with this guy, because it
- 20:34Speaker 2: seems like he's doing everything in his power to make
- 20:36Speaker 2: you work with you. I appreciate you folks listening to me.
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