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FLORIDA WOMAN FILMS HERSELF LAUGHING, LEAVES LOVER TO DIE IN SUITCASE “HIDE & SEEK” · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a Florida woman actually films
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  Speaker 1: herself laughing. Sounds like she's having a couple of glasses
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  Speaker 1: of wine at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure about that.
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  Speaker 1: As she leaves her lover to die, to die in
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  Speaker 1: a suitcase, she says during a game of hide and seek. Now,
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  Speaker 1: how that hide and seek is some sort of defense?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, see, Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: And thank call back and said it still there. They're
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  Speaker 3: going to think to kill him.
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  Speaker 4: All we had was a bottle of wine.
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  Speaker 2: Literally, just a bottle of wine.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and when you cut it away, hidden feet, that's
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  Speaker 4: all what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Girl. A bottle of wine is not a defense.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to warn you she filmed herself, There's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that, as she sat there and watched
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend die in a suitcase. Let me warn you
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  Speaker 1: this is very disturbing. I told you she filmed herself
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  Speaker 1: as she watched her boyfriend die in a suitcase during
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  Speaker 1: an alleged game of hide and seek, while she throws
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  Speaker 1: back a couple of glasses of wine. You know we
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  Speaker 1: got the video for everything.
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  Speaker 3: You've done to me so for everything you've done to me.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you.
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  Speaker 5: So swa stupid Sarah.
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  Speaker 2: It's my name, don't hear it?
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  Speaker 5: No, I can't see sir is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you do and you shook me.
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  Speaker 5: Sa, Carol, I can't breathe.
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  Speaker 3: That's on you, Sarah.
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  Speaker 5: I can't breathe.
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  Speaker 3: It's on you, Sarah. Real ndso I I want to
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  Speaker 3: get video for it. Extra good.
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  Speaker 5: I got this, Sal Sarah. I can't believe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's what I feel like when you drink on me.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah.
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  Speaker 3: Wait sorrow, Yeah you should, probably should.
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  Speaker 1: I had to watch that myself to make sure I
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  Speaker 1: knew what really happened.
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  Speaker 2: Did she actually feeling herself?
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I want you to hear first of all, the
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  Speaker 1: nine to one one call listen, what is.
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  Speaker 6: The location of your emergency?
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  Speaker 2: Were seven four eight France Court, Apartment three.
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  Speaker 3: As a suppode so Medico.
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  Speaker 6: My boyfriend had said, Okay, have a line for the
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  Speaker 6: fight apartment, do not hang up.
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  Speaker 5: Tell me exactly what happened there.
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  Speaker 3: My boyfriend and only were playing last night and I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: I put him in their case.
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  Speaker 2: And we were playing and he's like kind of a
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  Speaker 2: hide and seek kind of thing.
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  Speaker 7: So I fell asleep and I woke up and he
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  Speaker 7: was dead in a suitcase.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what happened. You just told us what happened.
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  Speaker 1: You put your boyfriend in a suit case. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: crawl in there. It was not his idea. You zip
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  Speaker 1: it up, and now he's dead.
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  Speaker 2: We were playing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's just what the Long Island serial killers said
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  Speaker 1: about all of his victims. They were playing, then they
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  Speaker 1: were tortured, mutilated, and murdered.
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  Speaker 2: Let's analyze what we just heard.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me, Stephanie Buffo Monte, investigative reporter, Fox thirty five Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: But first to defense attorney Philip Dubay, who has a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting numerology defense in this case. Dbay no stranger
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  Speaker 1: to a courtroom with the La County Public Defender's Office.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Dobay, did you hear she was completely Deadpan? My
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend is dead, just like that. I can't wait for
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  Speaker 1: the jury to hear that. How would you battle.
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  Speaker 2: That in court? What try to suppress?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 2: I'm on one call?
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  Speaker 8: No, First of all, you got to remember, she just
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  Speaker 8: came off a vender. You know she was probably still
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  Speaker 8: hungover from the night before because I think they gozzled
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  Speaker 8: down an entire bottle of wine. She got to remember
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  Speaker 8: it too.
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  Speaker 1: Don't drag him into her wine bottle. Okay, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know he was in the line on. We know
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  Speaker 1: she was because I can hear her between sentences going okay,
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  Speaker 1: so go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Well, legally, the wine does not help her under Florida
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  Speaker 8: law because voluntary intoxication is no more a defense there.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're saying about voluntary use of drugs
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  Speaker 1: for alcohol is not a defense in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: That's everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm asking you about her saying my boyfriend's did
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  Speaker 1: It's like she might as well be saying, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let me order two Chick fil A sandwiches and a
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  Speaker 1: diet coke.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like. And you're gonna you would
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  Speaker 2: actually tell a jury is because she's hung over.
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  Speaker 1: You don't think finding his dead body and a suitcase
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  Speaker 1: might just wake her up.
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  Speaker 8: She's also numb from years of abuse from him. Don't
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  Speaker 8: you remember what she said in the clip? She said,
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  Speaker 8: now you know you can't breathe. Now you know what
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  Speaker 8: it's like all those times you were choking me, So
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  Speaker 8: it sounds like that she was exercising dominion and control
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  Speaker 8: over him so he wouldn't ever harm her again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you mean revenge.
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  Speaker 8: No, I'm talking about being as.
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  Speaker 2: It's very clear she brought that up.
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  Speaker 1: But she's angry because she thinks he cheated on her.
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  Speaker 1: So what the revenge is over, whether it's alleged choking
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  Speaker 1: or alleged cheating. Again, just like voluntary use of drugs
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  Speaker 1: or alcohol is not a defense, revenge is not a defense.
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  Speaker 1: Not a defense. Accident one percent a defense, a total defense,
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  Speaker 1: self defense one hundred percent a defense. Insanity would be
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  Speaker 1: an affirmative defense where you say I did it, but
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  Speaker 1: I was crazy. But revenge is not a defense. Hold on,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what else we can learn from the nine
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  Speaker 1: to one one call. Then we're going to revisit her video.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, Yes, like he has like blood coming out of
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  Speaker 6: his mouth and I don't know, like he had a.
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  Speaker 9: Right Okay, all right, okay, so we're going to hear
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  Speaker 9: at all right, Okay, okay, now okay, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 6: It's on our way out there, are hanging from somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: What man, No, I pulled him out of the suitcase.
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  Speaker 2: I tried giving him CPR.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, so he was in a suitcase?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, then I fell asleep.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. How old is how.
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  Speaker 1: Men fell asleep while the boyfriend still zipped up begging
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  Speaker 1: in a suitcase. Doctor Kendall Crowns is joining me, renown
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  Speaker 1: renowned chief medical examiner Terrant, counting that sport Worth never
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  Speaker 1: a lack of business in Dallas Fort Worth lecturer at
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  Speaker 1: the esteemed Burnette School of Medicine at TCU.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Kimdall Crowns. Why would a person be purple?
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  Speaker 10: Why would they be purple? Well, that could be from
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  Speaker 10: post mortem lividity that as their heart stops, the blood
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  Speaker 10: pools and it gets kind of this purple coloration. It
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  Speaker 10: could also be from the fact that he has a
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  Speaker 10: lack of oxygen for a prolonged period of time, so
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  Speaker 10: instead of his blood having that red coloration, it has
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  Speaker 10: a more purplish kind of hue to it.
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  Speaker 1: Old on, First of all, I've got to understand what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying. Lividity that means and regular people talk. For instance,
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  Speaker 1: you lay down on your bed, on your back and
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  Speaker 1: you die. Not going to discuss why you die, but
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  Speaker 1: you die, the blood in your body since your heart
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  Speaker 1: is no longer pumping, the blood settles to the lowest point,
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  Speaker 1: which would me mean all your blood settles in your back,
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  Speaker 1: your rear end, maybe the back of your legs. Blood
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  Speaker 1: goes down to the lowest point lividity.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. But his whole body is purple, so.
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  Speaker 1: I would think that a suitcase is not air tight,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not a matter of having no air.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you don't have enough air, you.
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  Speaker 10: Die correct over time, you're not getting enough oxygen, so
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  Speaker 10: you're not getting enough oxygen to your body's tissues, your organs,
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  Speaker 10: of things of that nature. He's in a restricted environment.
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  Speaker 10: He's probably bald up in kind of a fetus position,
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  Speaker 10: making it very difficult to breathe. So he is dying
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  Speaker 10: a slow death of asshixiation or lack of oxygen getting
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  Speaker 10: So that.
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  Speaker 2: Would be positional asphyxiation.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, guys, before we go to Stephanie Buffer Monte,
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  Speaker 1: listen to more of the nine on one all right.
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  Speaker 7: Listen to me.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, you need to confirm this one, all right, and
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  Speaker 6: you need to confirm this easy awake at all? Is
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  Speaker 6: he conscious at all? No?
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  Speaker 3: Be purple, He breathing, no, all right, I need you
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  Speaker 3: to get anything to get him on the pro fend
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  Speaker 3: his back and.
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  Speaker 2: Forth, Bay, I did, I did. I tried giving him CPR,
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  Speaker 2: all right, I tried giving him CPR.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will purple.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she's call him as a cucumber.
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  Speaker 1: Now joining me, investigative reporter Fox thirty five or Orlando,
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  Speaker 1: Stephanie Buffe Monte, Stephanie, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what happened.
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  Speaker 11: So what we're seeing is that cell phone video shows
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  Speaker 11: what happened that night. So there are two videos, one
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  Speaker 11: taken at eight twenty and then one taken just after
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  Speaker 11: eleven o'clock. And in one video.
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  Speaker 12: You'll see the suitcase is flipped the other way.
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  Speaker 11: And when she was asked about this later by investigators,
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  Speaker 11: she you know, they were saying.
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  Speaker 12: Hey, you know, did you move the suitcase?
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  Speaker 11: And she said she moved it from one side to
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  Speaker 11: the other. And then you hear her in this video
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  Speaker 11: saying these really horrendous things. This guy is pleading for
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  Speaker 11: his life, saying, Sarah, Sarah, I can't breathe, and she's laughing.
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  Speaker 11: She is laughing and telling him to shut up as
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  Speaker 11: he can't breathe and is suffocating in this suit case
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  Speaker 11: as we see.
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  Speaker 2: Stepany Buffalmonte joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Investigator reporter Fox thirty five, Orlando, Stephanie, you state that she,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Boon, said horrific things while the boyfriend is dying,
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  Speaker 1: Like what what did she say?
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  Speaker 11: So she was saying, shut up, this is what it
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  Speaker 11: feels like when you choke me. This is what it
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  Speaker 11: feels like when you cheat on me. And she sounds
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  Speaker 11: a vengeful. I mean, that's what investigators were saying in
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  Speaker 11: that interrogation room with her saying she was sounding malicious,
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  Speaker 11: saying that she was laughing at him, and we can
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  Speaker 11: hear her laughing at him as he is pleading for
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  Speaker 11: his life. But that part where she talks about this
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  Speaker 11: is how I feel when you choke me kind of
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  Speaker 11: speaks to their previous relation of domestic abuse, which we
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  Speaker 11: know he had been arrested for previously in their relationship.
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  Speaker 2: You know what.
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  Speaker 1: That may be true, and I don't like that, but
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  Speaker 1: the death penalty meet it out by her is not
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  Speaker 1: the answer under our jurisprudence. He was in the suitcase
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  Speaker 1: for three hours before.
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  Speaker 2: She went to bed.
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  Speaker 1: There is a video at eight twenty and a video
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  Speaker 1: just after eleven PM. During that time, she flips over
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  Speaker 1: the suitcase. I wonder why joining me an all star panel.
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  Speaker 1: In addition to doctor Kendall, Crown's Philip Dubay defense attorney
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  Speaker 1: and Stephanie Buffamonte to doctor Bethany Marshall, a renownced psycho analyst,
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  Speaker 1: joining us out of LA She's a doctor Bethany Marshall
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  Speaker 1: dot com and you can see her right now on peacock.
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  Speaker 1: She's the author of deal Breaker, Doctor bethany way in well.
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  Speaker 6: In terms of domestic abuse, one of the reports read
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  Speaker 6: that when the officers responded, they weren't sure who was
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  Speaker 6: the aggressor and who was the victim, So let's just
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  Speaker 6: take that off the table.
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  Speaker 1: WHOA welcome A Wait a minute, doctor Bethany Marshall, Slow down,
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  Speaker 1: what did you say?
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  Speaker 5: When I was reading the reports?
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  Speaker 6: According to the responding officers who responded to the domestic
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure who placed the phone call, if she
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  Speaker 6: did or he did, But according to the report, they
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  Speaker 6: were not sure who was the aggressor and who was
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  Speaker 6: the victim.
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  Speaker 5: So I think we.
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  Speaker 6: Have to look into that further before citing that as
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  Speaker 6: a defense.
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  Speaker 5: Even though we know it is not a defense at all.
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  Speaker 6: I would be interested in looking at her online searches.
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  Speaker 6: This is a person who wanted to kill him.
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  Speaker 5: Let's be clear.
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  Speaker 6: She thought about this for a long long time. She
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  Speaker 6: thought about the most heinous and cruel way to do it.
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  Speaker 6: You do not end up in a suitcase because you're
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  Speaker 6: playing hide and seek, right, You can't zip the suitcase
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  Speaker 6: up yourself. You are lured into the suitcase. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 6: given a couple of classes of wine. Maybe you're told
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  Speaker 6: this is a part of sex play or something funny
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  Speaker 6: that the two of you are doing together.
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  Speaker 5: Or let's just experiment.
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  Speaker 6: With zipping up the suitcase and then I'm gonna unzip
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  Speaker 6: it and then we'll have sex, you know, something like that.
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  Speaker 5: So she lure him, and it's not clear if he
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  Speaker 5: really cheated on her or choked her.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I had a patient once where she was
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  Speaker 6: a very high level professional. He would wake up in
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  Speaker 6: the middle of the night with his wife kicking her,
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  Speaker 6: kicking him. She would just viciously kick him, and he
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  Speaker 6: came to therapy saying, oh, doctor Marshall, I must have
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  Speaker 6: done so many things wrong.
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  Speaker 5: And I said to him, you didn't do anything wrong.
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  Speaker 5: She just hates you, and she's malicious and she wants
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  Speaker 5: to kick you.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think sometimes you know this cool as
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  Speaker 6: a cucumber voice.
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  Speaker 5: We have to remember that some people are just.
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  Speaker 6: Cool, mean homicidal, and they come up with reasons after those.
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  Speaker 11: My boyfriend has said, I woke up and he was
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  Speaker 11: done in the suit case. I don't know what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Is is he a weekuld always been conscious at all?
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  Speaker 6: No purple?
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  Speaker 1: Ready?
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  Speaker 7: He breathing?
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  Speaker 2: No, all right, purple.
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  Speaker 1: According to the medical examiner, the victim had been in
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  Speaker 1: the suitcase for at least eleven hours. We also learn,
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  Speaker 1: according to the autopsy report, that the victim had a
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  Speaker 1: black eye and other bruises.
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  Speaker 2: And cuts on his head.
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  Speaker 1: His back and hands were covered in abrasions, bruises and cuts,
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  Speaker 1: indicating blunt impacts across the body. Now, this is according
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  Speaker 1: to the medical examiner. Did she beat him with a
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  Speaker 1: blunt object while he's in the suitcase? Now when police
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  Speaker 1: arrived the very next day, this after he's been in
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  Speaker 1: the suitcase at least eleven hours. Boom's demeanor, I'm might
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  Speaker 1: I hear for feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Putting a puzzle together, and we've been doing some ubera
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  Speaker 4: there there.
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  Speaker 2: You are putting a puzzle together.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we have a puzzle that we started in there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: We've been doing art, trying to take stuff off the
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  Speaker 4: wall to make new art put up there.
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  Speaker 3: Like having a good time at one another. But we're drinking.
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  Speaker 4: We had a bottle of wine last night.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So then it's like we decided to play hide and seek, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So he gets in the suitcase. Okay, who is this side?
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  Speaker 2: That's my expertence, my former husband. How do you look?
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  Speaker 10: Hey?
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  Speaker 4: With you by no?
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  Speaker 2: I called him over here?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, if you don't trust your own eyes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who should I believe her or my lying eyes?
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Robin Drake.
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  Speaker 1: Why because he is a behavior expert and former FBI
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  Speaker 1: Special Agent, chief of the FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program,
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  Speaker 1: author of Unbreakable Alliances, a spy recruiters, authoritative guy to
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  Speaker 1: cultivating power, powerful and lasting connections. Okay, I'm more interested
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  Speaker 1: in the book Sizing People Up, a veteran FBI AGUS
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  Speaker 1: manual for behavior prediction. Okay, Drake, thank you for joining
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  Speaker 1: us analyze what you just saw.
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  Speaker 9: Well, not just in this moment, hernal lack the effect,
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  Speaker 9: as we've been saying throughout the show so far, and
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  Speaker 9: her entire demeanor and behavior really strikes as a really
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  Speaker 9: great case of obsessive compulsive personality disorder. She has a
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  Speaker 9: zero ability to have empathy or impact with any human
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  Speaker 9: beings emotionally, and we're seeing it in everything that we've
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  Speaker 9: seen so far. And also this whole notion that she's
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  Speaker 9: being abused. Okay, then how did she get him to
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  Speaker 9: get in that suitcase if she didn't have a great
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  Speaker 9: high level of manipulation as well?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well explain that reasoning right there.
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  Speaker 9: So how do you get a guy that is supposedly
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  Speaker 9: abusing you to get into a suitcase? I mean it
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  Speaker 9: took her to convince him, or manipulate him or inspire
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  Speaker 9: him to get inside. Then he allowed her to zip
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  Speaker 9: him up and how why?
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  Speaker 12: You know?
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  Speaker 9: It's also interesting too, I know we've mentioned it briefly,
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  Speaker 9: but the alcohol involved here. Forty of homicides involve alcohol.
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  Speaker 9: That is a huge number, and I think it's a
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  Speaker 9: huge plays a huge part in this because it lowers
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  Speaker 9: the inhibition. As we've already said from the other guests,
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  Speaker 9: this is something she pre planned It's something that was
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  Speaker 9: in her mind to do. When you lower that inhibition
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  Speaker 9: with the forty percent of you know, homicide perpetrators use
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  Speaker 9: alcohol as that lower inhibition tool in their lives. This
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  Speaker 9: is a result and again that we're seeing this total
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  Speaker 9: need to control in her courtroom appearances, in that she
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  Speaker 9: got rid of all of her other defense attorneys. And
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  Speaker 9: what more control do you have when you actually kill
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  Speaker 9: someone by putting them into a suitcase. That is the
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  Speaker 9: ultimate form of control of death.
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  Speaker 2: You know what.
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  Speaker 1: Stephanie Buffamonte joining US investigative reporter Fox thirty five Orlando,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: when Robin Drike just said she's been through a few attorneys.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: She's been through eight attorneys at my last count, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: several of them, according to my notes, stay they're leaving
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: because of irreconcilable differences with her. She also pulls several
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: stunts with staples and jim clips, stapling up her clothes.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: She gets angry when her cell is searched. But I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: find it really interesting and possibly even probative, although the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: jury will never know this, that she has lost eight lawyers.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: They're like a parade of defense attorneys. And when a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: defense attorney who represents killers, child molestors.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Dope dealer says, I can't take this woman. I'm out here.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That tells me something.
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean to go through that many attorneys, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: all of those attorneys said that she was extremely difficult
• 19:55
  Speaker 11: to work with, one of them even saying that they
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: don't think anybody could defend her just because she is difficult.
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: She walked out of meetings when they were trying to
• 20:05
  Speaker 11: talk about her case. And if I can come back
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: up on camera, I want.
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: To show you something.
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: This is the flyer that she used to get her
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: latest attorney, which is her ninth attorney who is going
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: to be representing her in her trials starting on October seventh.
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: And she wrote this in her jail cell.
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: And then put it out online.
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: And this is what the attorney said is what brought
• 20:31
  Speaker 11: him to her and why he decided to represent her.
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: He saw this on social media.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, she's on this saying Stephanie, I'll read.
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: It to you because it's very interesting. I've never seen
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: something like this before. It says inmate seeks attorney, show
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: the world who you are with your original creativity, extraordinary expertise,
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: confident qualifications, must be trustworthy honest, past and driven, open minded,
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: epic opportunity awaits. I mean, have you ever seen something
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: like this? No?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Philip Debay joining US veteran trial lawyer out of LA
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: What about it, Debay? You ever had a flyer and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: answered an ad basically a classified ad for an alleged killer, not.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: A classified ad. But I have seen inmates do similar things.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: You know, they feel that their case is going to
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: garner enough attention to put counsel in the limelight and
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: generate future business. In the end. It's sort of a
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: marketing ploy. Take my case, I can't pay you, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: you'll have a future income stream based on all the
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: media throng tied to my case.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I have seen those you know what.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: That didn't work with eight prior lawyers. I wonder if
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it's going to work with the ninth. You know, doctor
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, you were right right on point, because if
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you take a close look at the domestic violence claims,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they were fighting with each other.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: She has a battery by.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Strangulation against him, and every time she called the cops
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on him, she drops charges and bails them out of jail.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So they're fighting with each other and she has a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: strangulation charge against her on him.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: That's right, and we know that abusers always abusers always
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: accused the victims of abusing them. It's a strange reversal,
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: so that might also be what's happening when he's in
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: the suitcase. You know, when she says you cheated on me.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: I imagine they were at a bar and he smiled
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: at a woman. I mean, with people like this, it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: the most innocuous of events that make them feel deflated
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: and then aggressive and want.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: To have avenge.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I think this help wanted ad for an attorney is
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: very telling. What it tells me is she's very grandiose.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: She thinks she's going to be the next Casey Anthony,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: and she thinks she's giving us an attorney an opportunity,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: and she's manipulating him.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Sarah Boon a Florida woman charged with.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Cajoling manipulating her boyfriend into a suitcase during an alleged
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: game of hide and seek, and she lives in there
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: for eleven hours until he dies, taunting him the entire time.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Listen for everything You've done to me, Sarah, for everything
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: you've done to me, So.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Sarah Sarah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Stupid Sarah, that's my name.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Don't hearn No, Sarah, I can't.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when you're doing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: You shook me, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I can't breathe.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: That's on you, Sarah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I can't breath.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: That's on you, Sarah. Realer nds and I want to
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: give video for it extra.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Good to get it so.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Real.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I can't believe.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Oh that's what I feel like.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he should probably shout, you know, I'm not
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: sure that I believe what she's saying.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Dr Bethony Marshall joining US psychoanalystide of LA. How could
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: he be in the suitcase and zip it up from
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the inside.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: He could not zip up the suitcase from the inside.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: So this whole hide and seek thing, a three year
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: old knows when you play hide and seek, you do
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: it without the other person knowing. So she's really made
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: up the defense after the fact, hasn't she She lured
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: him there, and I'm very curious about how she might
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: have lured him there. I'm guessing, as I said earlier,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: that she's thought about this for a long long time.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: She planned this, She didn't want to poison him, didn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: want to stab him. That's too obvious. So dressing it
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: up as sex.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Play, you know, you get in the suitcase and then
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: we're going to have a lot of fun afterwards. That's
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: what she did.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: She made up sort of a fictitious game that they
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: were playing to put him in that suitcase. And you know, Nancy,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: do you see that suitcase heaving as she's watching. It's
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: like he's trying to expand his body to get some
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: space to breathe. And also we have to acknowledge the
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: sadism involved in this. I mean, who of us are
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: not claustrophobic in some cases? So putting him in a
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: claustrophobic situation is incredible cruelty. No, it's not, you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: putting out your cigarette butts on him. It's not strangling him,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: it's not pulling out his fingernails.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: But it is incredibly.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Psychologically cruel Curious how he ends up in that suitcase
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and whether he zipped himself in. I think that's impossible.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: She had to zip him in. Stephanie Buffamonte joining us
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: from Fox thirty five. Stephanie, do we know the size
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of that suitcase?
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: I don't know the exact size, but you can kind
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: of see in the room where it's placed. It looks
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: like your average suitcase, not super big, but she said
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: it was something that they were using.
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: It was downstairs because they were going to bring.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Clothes to goodwill.
• 26:29
  Speaker 11: And to Bethany's point, investigators say he was actually trying
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: to be It looked like he was pushing himself, trying
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: to push himself out of the suitcase. Now, Sarah and
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: missu zipping up the suitcase. She said she zipped it up,
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: but she said that she thought that there were he
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: had two fingers out where he was going to be
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: able to unzip it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: But you can see in the video the suitcase is
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: flipped the other way.
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: So if you think of it like how you're packing
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: for a vacation, you open it up, you know that
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: that's the thin layer on top, but it was flipped
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: the other way around in that later video.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, what is it with murder and suitcases
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that there has to I mean, I've got so many
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: suitcase examples, real life cases where people were killed and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: disposed of in left in suitcases. There's got to be
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: some psychological or psychiatric connection.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's the most convenient way to transport something. Right,
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: So if you want to hide a body, put the
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: body in the suitcase. But in this particular case, Sarah Boone,
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I think she wanted to create a claustrophobic situation for him.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: I think she wanted to put him in something where
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: she could still hear him, he could breathe the tiny
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: little bit so she could taunt and torment and torture
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: him over time. And from this standpoint, the suitcase seems
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: quite convenient. I mean, disposing of a child in a
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: field and putting them into suitcase just seems like you
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: haven't adequately prepared the dump site. In this case, she
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: thought about this, She prepared this. She may have even said,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: he's sweetie, let's go take close to the Goodwill so
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: that she could put the suitcase downstairs and then put
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: him in it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, dare I disagree with you on a
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: psychological point, but I think there's more to it, or
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the act of putting someone in a suitcase. You're packing
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: them away. They're like an object. You zip it up
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and leave them. They're out of your purview, they're out
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of your mind. Basically, dehumanizing them. You said it's an
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: easy way to transport somebody, Well, it's leaking blood and
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: human bodily fluids. The act of transporting someone in a suitcase.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That's got to mean something. I mean, I'm coming to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you for expertise, doctor Bethany, not say oh yeah, carrying
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the body really really easily in a roller board.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Not what I was expecting, Bethany.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Okay, two things come to mind the cases we've covered
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: Dig Deep, Okay, Dig Deep, that women and their families
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: who have been put in tunnels secreted away behind a
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: door so that the perpetrator can have absolute control over them,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: or children or women who have been buried in terms
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: of an act of cruelty so they suffocate alive. And
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: I think that there's some confluence of factors here where
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: the perpetrator wants absolute control over the victim and being
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: able to transport them wherever you want.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Is also a form of control.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, I glad I hear for Bromian.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Together, and we've been doing some ubera there there you
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: are putting a puzzle together.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, we have a puzzle that we started in there.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, we've been doing art time, taking stuff off the
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: law to make new art put up there like having a.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Good time at one another.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: But we're drinking.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: We had a bottle of wine last night.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: So then it's like we tried to play hide and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: feet right, Okay, So he gets in the suitcase.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, co was this? That's my first friend, my former husband.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: How did he live?
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: Heay with you?
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: By no?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I called him over here?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, wait a minute, how did the former husband
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: get there before the police are the EMTs?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I guess he has some stories he could tell.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Stephanie Buffamonte joining us Fox thirty five, she called the husband,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: her ex husband, to the same before she called perimedics
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to try to save the victim.
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: Yes, so she called her ex husband.
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: First he came over, and then she said, about five
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: minutes after he came over, she then called nine to
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: one one. And what's interesting, if you watched the bondycam video,
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: the husband had said he had been there. The ex husband,
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: excuse me, had said he had been calling her all
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: morning because she was supposed to take care of their
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: kid or something like that, and that she was known
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: to be drunk a lot of the times. And then
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: he also talked about their relationship being so rocky and
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: that there had been domestic abuse before, so he kind
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: of was already telling deputies right away that she has
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: had problems before. We also heard from investigators that they
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: spoke to her neighbors who kind of painted the same
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: picture of her, someone who gets drunk a lot. And
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: you know, here's issues with the two of them in
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: their in their apartment.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Guys, you got to hear this.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to her speaking to police where she
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: complains she's the one suffering.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: And then I called him while I wasn't start, probably
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: giving me a fall apart here.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Let me fill this, Deputyanne, Okay, leave, ma'am. My doctor Pepper.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I am at cut, ma'am.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And you can't talk to him until we get that cyber.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, just don't leave, okay, Bryan.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you, ma'am.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. She's suffering because she has dry mouth. I've
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: got severe cotton mouth.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: May I have my doctor Pepper, Nancy.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: She's really climes.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: He's drunk this time. Okay, she's totally sober.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Actually, when you drink a lot, you do get thirsty.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: That's one of the signs so that I hear.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So you're actually saying that to me, or did you
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: actually say that? First?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: You say a suitcase is a great way to transport
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a dead body. Now you're defending her with her cotton mouth?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, who kills your doctor Bethany and is wearing
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: her skin?
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: I think it's fascinating that she's already thought of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: defense before she calls the police. Right. She says that
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: this is a happy domestic situation. In so many words,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: they're putting.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: Together a puzzle. They're going to remove art from the wall.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: It's sort of like there's this cozy domestic situation going
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: on between the two of.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Them and this except that he's dead.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Except that he's dead. But she's thought a long time
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: about this, Nancy.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Robin Drake, help me out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You're the chief of the FBI counter Intelligence Behavioral Analysis Program.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: She's he's dead, he's purple, and she's whining that she
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: has cotton mouth, and she demands her doctor Pepper.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's all about her. Everything's all about her, And
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: we're seeing we're seeing this life arc of her that
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: we're even getting a glimpse of it from her ex
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: husband is seeing a pattern of substance abuse, a pattern
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: of self centeredness that the child, if there's a child
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: involved here, it sounds like the child lives with him.
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: And then really interesting language that she's using as well.
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: She in one of the stayments, she said, I put
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: him in a suitcase. Not he got in the suitcase,
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: It was I put in. Then she count it at
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: a later time saying that he got in. So which
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: is it? I think again it goes back to the
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: self centeredness control, and I'm on board with you with
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: She completely objectified him, dehumanize him by putting him in
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: a suitcase like a thing, like an object.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's one more thing. You know, she's really got
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: to get her sleep. Listen. I don't know what happened, okay.
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: And then you weren't sure about if you woke up
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: this morning.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: They went after it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: I mean I wasn't late afternoon, but I just didn't
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: want to come.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Downstairs, okay.
• 34:30
  Speaker 13: Laid in the bed for a little while, and then
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: I eventually came out stairs, mused about where he was,
• 34:35
  Speaker 13: and then I was like, oh my god, he's a
• 34:36
  Speaker 13: big page fill. So I pulled him out and I
• 34:39
  Speaker 13: expressed him out and I started to describe me a
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: CPR one. I called you guys who I called Frank
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: and then I as soon as he.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Got here, which is heard.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: To take him down the road, I called you guy,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Philip Dubay, veteran defense attorney joining us out of LA.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: So she just decided to sleep in that morning, didn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: want to come downstairs.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I guess didn't want to see the dead body in
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the suitcase. You really believe she slept.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Through the night with him in a suitcase and then
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the next morning decided to just sleep in.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Have a nice long nap.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do. The Blasei Cavalier attitude about it tells
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: us that she was probably a little hungover that she
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: slept the night through from having down three four glasses
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: of wine. It probably really loosened her up to the
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: point where she just knotted off, fell asleep, woke up,
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: and then when she realized what she had done, she
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: picks up the phone and called nine one one in
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: a panic. You know, usually in the suitcase homicides Nancy,
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: what they do is they leave the body in the
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: suitcase and they find the appropriate dumping spot to get
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: rid of it. To try to cover it up. She
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: didn't do that. The first thing she told nine one
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: one is she tried to give the mouth to mouth.
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: Try to give a mouth.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You say you're the only one that's tried a lot
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of homicides. Listen, killers aren't always rocket scientists. They're not
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: brain surgeons. They're not like Bethany or doctor Kendall Crowns.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: You don't really give her a gold star? What an
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a plus?
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Because she didn't dispose of the body.
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: No, her mouth got her into the biggest trouble. If
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: you want to be honest about it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: She ran I was she zipping her boyfriend into the
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: suitcase and letting him die. Why she taunts him is
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: what got her into trouble. And to you, doctor Kendall Crowns,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: if they split a bottle of wine, which I don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: know that they even did that, and they split it
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: right down the middle, so she had two glasses, three
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: glasses maybe, and that makes her sleep.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Till one o'clock the next day, I'm not buying that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd be surprised by that too, because three glasses
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: of wine would put her blood alcohol at about point
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: zero six, So she's not even at the legal limit
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: for intoxication, So I don't think she's wiped out all
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: day from three glasses of wine.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Illaheam, what do you tell his parents?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: What's the reason us away?
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: We know about them?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that we're gonna be waiting for the autopasy results.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: I mean I will be at the autoposy in the
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: way and hopefully the doctor will be able to give.
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  Speaker 3: Me some of what they think and see.
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  Speaker 9: Contact them.
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  Speaker 12: But yeah, they're gonna they're gonna know what we're here,
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: what you know, what we're.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Investigating, and that we're still They're going to think I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: had to know him.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: They always have said that.
• 37:25
  Speaker 13: They've always, always always have said.
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: That, I told you it's because I'm the blue.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Eyed white dragon.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: So his body is purple, body is still inside dead
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And she's like, what.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Are you going to tell parents? Now? That's not all
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: listen to this.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: I don't think you all understand who I am where.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've always been.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: A straightedge student.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: I am an outstanding motor to my son.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I sell everything.
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  Speaker 7: I I would not do that you wouldn't watch him
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: to do. Somebody on a suitcase, Well I didn't like
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: completely like it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: I mean I opened it with one finger.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I left enough in there for to get out, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I wasn't planning.
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: On going upstairs and I'm going to sleep.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so going upstairs and you going to sleep. That
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was an accellent too, robinsriq.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: What is she saying?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: She's really digging her own grave with her own teeth.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: The more she talks, the deeper the grave gets. Because
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: she says, hey, you don't know who I am. I'm
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: all a student. That sounds to me like when Debral mcfae,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: who was charged with Childwi's station of young young boys,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: basically argued I'm too pretty to go to jail. Or
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: ethan couch he mowed down a whole group of people
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: on the side of the road and he says, I'm
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: too rich to go to jail. This one's saying I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't go to jail because ooh, because I'm an straight
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a student.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and she's also you's an interesting language here as well.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: She didn't say I didn't do that. She said I
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: wouldn't do that. So she's distancing herself from the actual
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: event itself. It's a classic thing. We've seen a lot
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: of different murder trials and we're a lot of different
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: murderers that they've tried to diss themselves from their victims
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: by using language that is like that. Again, her lack
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: of effector in the entire process is profound, and it
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: keeps focusing on her. She's not having any reaction that
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: you expect from someone that just lost someone's close them, boyfriend, husband, anyone.
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: She just seems completely unaffected by the entire thing except
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: the impact on her.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Definitely, buff A Monte. You spoke with lawyer number nine.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: What did you learn?
• 39:41
  Speaker 12: Yeah, so he was in court yesterday for a pre
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: trial hearing.
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: That new lawyer is James Owens, and he was the
• 39:49
  Speaker 11: person who saw that flyer and decided he wanted to
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: defend Sarah Boone. And he was talking yesterday about what
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: his defense is going to be and he said it's
• 39:59
  Speaker 11: going well. He would like it to be batter spouse syndrome.
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: And we know the trial is on October seventh. And
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: because of all the delays with lawyer after lawyer after lawyer,
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: then Sarah saying that she was going to defend herself
• 40:13
  Speaker 11: and now getting this latest attorney, the attorney had asked
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: for a continuance so he could get time to get
• 40:20
  Speaker 11: a forensic psychologist and other witnesses, because he has to
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: file his motion for defense on the ninth of September,
• 40:29
  Speaker 11: because you have to do that thirty days out. So
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: now time is of the essence.
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: And you can see it and hear it in that
• 40:37
  Speaker 12: newest attorney's voice.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see what Attorney number nine has to say.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off, Goodbye,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Fred