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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-27 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Done right side the line for goodrow across to Rker
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  Speaker 1: Evans left wing shot ten scarss Riiker Evans from the
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  Speaker 1: left wing point throw it on goal.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Myers read.
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  Speaker 1: Therects it and then the Seattle Kraken have pulled back
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  Speaker 1: to within one. It's a three to two Saint Louis lead.
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  Speaker 1: All the Blues are gonna challenge to see if it
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  Speaker 1: was offside prior to the goal. Apt for the review
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  Speaker 1: it was a trip that the point was offsides.
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  Speaker 3: We have.
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  Speaker 1: And I tell you what partner that play was off
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  Speaker 1: side by a half an inch.
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  Speaker 2: Falconiskey with the cutting analysis there. Yep, yep, good morning,
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  Speaker 2: it is Friday. Happy Friday to you all. Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 2: is here. My name is Chuck Pye, No Bucky. He'll
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  Speaker 2: be back with us on Monday. But we enter our
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  Speaker 2: second hour. Greg Bell's just minutes away from joining us
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  Speaker 2: here as he does most every day at seven five
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  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM. Crack and lost again last night
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  Speaker 2: ended up being five to one. Yeah, maybe a half
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  Speaker 2: an inch cost him a goal. Maybe that changes the game,
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  Speaker 2: but it really doesn't excuse getting out played. Unmercifully for
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  Speaker 2: a second night in a row to begin this resumption
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  Speaker 2: of play after the three week long hiatus for the
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  Speaker 2: Olympic break. That was your mc delivery of the game,
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  Speaker 2: last night's top call from Everett and Al from the
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  Speaker 2: food see app four details. Yes five to one, so
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  Speaker 2: an two start at this resumption being outscored nine to two.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing to lose to the Dallas Stars and
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  Speaker 2: blow out fashion, another thing, Ashley, to lose to the
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  Speaker 2: last place Saint Louis Blues five to one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if I mean, I would
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  Speaker 4: doubt that they went in thinking like, well, this team's
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  Speaker 4: terrible and we're better, especially coming off being blown out
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  Speaker 4: by Dallas. Nobody should be thinking that. But that I
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  Speaker 4: was hoping that was kind of going to be their
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  Speaker 4: get right. Let's okay, we're gonna we're gonna have no
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  Speaker 4: problem with Saint Louis. And now We're going to come
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  Speaker 4: home on a positive note. We've got the Canucks and
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  Speaker 4: you know, all will be right with the world. And
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  Speaker 4: giving up those two goals basically back to back in
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  Speaker 4: the second period so early it was like, wait, what
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  Speaker 4: what just happened? And then when they got that goal
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  Speaker 4: and then it got taken away, I was like, well
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  Speaker 4: that's it. I mean, because at least coming back and
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  Speaker 4: being within one was I thought we had a pretty
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  Speaker 4: good chance, but it just seemed like the air sailed
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  Speaker 4: out of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sliding doors. Maybe that goal counts and we got
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  Speaker 2: a completely different game. Ian for Ness told us yesterday
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  Speaker 2: nothing to worry about after the Dallas loss is just
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  Speaker 2: a bad matchup. But if they lose a game against
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  Speaker 2: the Blues, we've got something to worry about come Friday morning.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds like we got something to worry about.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to ask ed Zo himself at Old Check
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  Speaker 2: about it at nine o'clock today. Let's take a look
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  Speaker 2: at your rest of your frost brewed cors light shows,
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  Speaker 2: chill headlines before we bring Greg aboard Mariner Spring training.
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  Speaker 2: They won yesterday eight to seven. A couple of hits
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  Speaker 2: for Colt Emerson again in the game, including a triple
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  Speaker 2: Kate Anderson is expected to make his Mariners pitching debut
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. I believe Saturday is when he will be
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  Speaker 2: taking the mound in the Cactus League College Hoops You
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  Speaker 2: Dub host Wisconsin tomorrow at one o'clock. But for a
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  Speaker 2: five hundred basketball team at this stage of the year,
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  Speaker 2: the bigger story is the legendary Detla Shremp's going to
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  Speaker 2: have his number retired. Spencer Hawsell join us TOT eight
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  Speaker 2: thirty today to discuss it. Sounders look to go to
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  Speaker 2: and Oh. They'll be in Utah tomorrow to take on
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  Speaker 2: Real Salt Lake and they'll start that match at four thirty.
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  Speaker 2: The Kraken will also play tomorrow at seven o'clock at
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  Speaker 2: home against the Vancouver Canucks. As Ashley and the NFL
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  Speaker 2: combine enters Day number two, Day number one, maybe the
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  Speaker 2: best group of them all, and the best players of
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  Speaker 2: the best group were the ones that stole all the headlines.
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  Speaker 2: David Bailey Texas Tech could be the number two overall
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  Speaker 2: pick in the draft. If not him, Rvel Reese of
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State and now Sunny Styles has turned into be
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  Speaker 2: the talk of the NFL combine after his impressive workout yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Reese and Styles both from Ohio State. How did they
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  Speaker 2: not win a national champion hip. That's weird, But yes,
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  Speaker 2: today is day number two. It'll be defensive acts and
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  Speaker 2: tight ends going. But there's another story that we started
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  Speaker 2: with today. I don't know how much truth there is
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  Speaker 2: to it, but when you hear that DeMarcus Lawrence is
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  Speaker 2: contemplating retirement, it does make you think. Joining us now
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  Speaker 2: to discuss that in other topics is our own Greg
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  Speaker 2: Bell with the Bell Tolls.
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  Speaker 3: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 2: Now with twalk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 2: and Bud Oh. It's been playing strains and automobiles for
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell this week. Last I heard he was heading
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  Speaker 2: to Michigan in the back of a beer truck, singing
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  Speaker 2: polka music with some fine fellows from Chicago. But hopefully
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  Speaker 2: he made it to Michigan by now.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Greg, Good morning. I did I prove myself
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  Speaker 5: I avoided the back of the truck rack.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good to have you with us. What did What
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  Speaker 2: do you know about this DeMarcus Lawrence thing that seems
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  Speaker 2: to be buzzing around that maybe he's thinking about hanging
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  Speaker 2: it up after a Super Bowl championship.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we asked, like McDonald att and he said that
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  Speaker 5: last he talked to Lawrence, Lawrence wants to come back.
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  Speaker 5: And then in fact, all the player, Jaron Reid, everybody
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  Speaker 5: who is getting into their thirties and eleven twelve years
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  Speaker 5: in the league have told McDonald that they want to
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  Speaker 5: return twenty twenty six. Lawrence's contract is three years. Was
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  Speaker 5: notable for someone thirty two years old at the time
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  Speaker 5: and eleven years in the league to get a three
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  Speaker 5: year deal and so guide him to Seattle. And the
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  Speaker 5: first I heard of was ESPNS dot COM's Brady Henderson
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  Speaker 5: has been on the beat a long time with being
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  Speaker 5: his dialed in as well. He said that it could
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  Speaker 5: be that Lawrence is contemplating retirement after twelve season. Is
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  Speaker 5: going to be thirty four years old next year, and
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  Speaker 5: I mean it makes sense that a player of his stature,
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  Speaker 5: four time pro bowler has played a dozen years in
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  Speaker 5: the league, going to be thirty four, goes out after
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  Speaker 5: winning a Super Bowl, the one thing he said he
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  Speaker 5: has always sought in the NFL. When he got to
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  Speaker 5: Seattle the day he signed, he said, I'm here because
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  Speaker 5: I thought this is my chance to win a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: He turned out to be correct. There had a great
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  Speaker 5: season doing it. So it is a natural supposition that
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  Speaker 5: a player might want to go out on top, which
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  Speaker 5: is where I think this comes from. But as up
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  Speaker 5: two days ago, the coach says that the player told
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  Speaker 5: him he's coming back. Now, McDonald did say that can change,
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  Speaker 5: especially the further a player gets away from this brotherhood
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  Speaker 5: that they had for the last eight seven, eight nine
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  Speaker 5: months and it's off on their own and want to
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  Speaker 5: beat somewhere for the next couple of months and might
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  Speaker 5: entice him to stay on the beach for the rest
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  Speaker 5: of his career. But as it now, McDonald says that
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  Speaker 5: Lawrence and everybody else's makes it interview saying they're coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Does it not speak to how difficult it is to
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  Speaker 2: repeat his champions or build a dynasty in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the things that you battle against you got
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  Speaker 2: free agents that are going to get higher value than
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  Speaker 2: they're probably worth because it's as super Bowl next to
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  Speaker 2: their name. You've got the fear of complacency. You've got
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  Speaker 2: the fear of guys that you do bring back maybe
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  Speaker 2: they're not as hungry now that they're a little richer.
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  Speaker 2: And then you even have a guy like DeMarcus Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: who at the parade seem to have the time of
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  Speaker 2: his life. And yet I like consider retirement because I'm
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  Speaker 2: thirty three years old, I've been in the league for
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  Speaker 2: twelve years. I've taken a lot of abuse. Maybe I
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  Speaker 2: want to go out on top. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 2: can't rest in this league when it comes to trying
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  Speaker 2: to win championships.
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  Speaker 5: Right, And the league legislatesd so that you don't win
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  Speaker 5: super Bowls over super Bowls, which is why I told me,
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  Speaker 5: been what five times in the last fifty years or
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  Speaker 5: so that's happened. Yeah, it's it's hard. It's really really
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  Speaker 5: hard to do.
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  Speaker 6: And players, once they get into the offseason check the
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  Speaker 6: one thing that motivates players to rev it up again
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  Speaker 6: and to start the personal training and the weightlifting and
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  Speaker 6: the four yard dashes and all the offseason work.
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  Speaker 5: In the training camps and the slog through August. The
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  Speaker 5: one motivating factor that gets these guys once they played
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  Speaker 5: a few years in the league and made money. One
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  Speaker 5: motivating factors to win a super Bowl, to win a ring. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and then you do it. I was like, well, what's
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  Speaker 5: left am I going to go through this brack my
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  Speaker 5: body and affect my quality of life for the rest
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  Speaker 5: of my life? I already won a Super Bowl? What
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  Speaker 5: am I doing it for? And you already made tens
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  Speaker 5: of millions and something hundreds of millions of dollars, which
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  Speaker 5: absolutely and you have to think to just a pure
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  Speaker 5: quality of life side, someone who's just won a Super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl and in the market laws in this case, made
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty million dollars in his career, what
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  Speaker 5: else is there to do? He's done it, And I
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  Speaker 5: mean that's again part of a supposition that he'd be
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  Speaker 5: looking at retirement. Then again, players chuck get to this
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  Speaker 5: level because of how ultra competitive they are. And then
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  Speaker 5: there are players who say, you know what, everyone says,
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  Speaker 5: we can't do it. Let's do it again. Ye say,
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  Speaker 5: everyone says it can't be done. There's an intrinsic motivation
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  Speaker 5: that make world class. He will be players who they are.
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  Speaker 5: That's why people just walking down First Avenue in Seattle
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  Speaker 5: this morning aren't in the NFL. They're uniquely competitive and
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  Speaker 5: equipped to rev it up again.
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  Speaker 2: There might have been other reasons I didn't make it
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  Speaker 2: to the NFL, Greg Maybe maybe one or two.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Greg bellis with us our Seahawks insider from the News Tribune.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you can follow his entire coverage of the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks all year long at the Newstribune dot com. Another
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  Speaker 2: story that came out yesterday is an apparent leak the NFLPA.
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  Speaker 2: The players fill out this survey of how much they
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  Speaker 2: like their organization and how well they're treated in various
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  Speaker 2: forms behind the scenes, and it gets out that the
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers got the lowest grades and the Miami Dolphins
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  Speaker 2: for whatever. So this shows you who cares how well
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  Speaker 2: they're treated. Sometimes they can guess they can be treated
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  Speaker 2: too well, because the Dolphins are the biggest poop show
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  Speaker 2: in the entire National Football League. But the Seahawks ended
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  Speaker 2: up fourth out of thirty two. I would just ask
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  Speaker 2: you how much merit, how much stock do you put
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  Speaker 2: in these evaluations?
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  Speaker 5: Well, First of all, I love the Kaitlyn Kaylor of
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  Speaker 5: ESPN dot com published it, got obtained it and published it.
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  Speaker 5: I love it because the league, the ownership, and the
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  Speaker 5: Commissioner's office don't want this out. In fact, as a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people know, they got an arbiter to rule
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  Speaker 5: in the league's favor prohibiting the NFLPA the players union
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  Speaker 5: from publicly releasing these report cards. Now, the arbord Is
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  Speaker 5: ruling two weeks ago wasn't that they can't do the survey,
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  Speaker 5: and it wasn't that they can't share the survey with
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  Speaker 5: their players, their union inside union matters, union talk, as
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  Speaker 5: the Arbury ruled, But they did the arborid did say
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  Speaker 5: you can't publicly release and so we knew at the
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  Speaker 5: time when that came out two weeks ago, the ruling that, oh,
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  Speaker 5: the union is just going to make sure somebody puts
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  Speaker 5: it out, whether it's them or somebody does for him.
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  Speaker 5: That's off that Kaylon Kaylor putting out for all of
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  Speaker 5: us to now do what the league doesn't want us
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  Speaker 5: to do, which is there the insideer pulled the curtain
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  Speaker 5: back on these teams. The Seahawks fourth overall a's across
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  Speaker 5: the board, except I think in two areas treatment of
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  Speaker 5: player families, which means a player family activity room at
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  Speaker 5: the stadium mostly got a B plus. That's gone up
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  Speaker 5: from the past. I can't remember one other off the field.
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  Speaker 5: The rest are as ownership, a GMA coaching, a defense
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  Speaker 5: corner idden dirty by the way eight plus. I saw
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  Speaker 5: him in MINDI Napolis the other day they came monod
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  Speaker 5: The only the only of seventeen areas the Seahawks got
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  Speaker 5: below a B plus was on the fields playing service
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  Speaker 5: their home field. And this is an issue that goes
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  Speaker 5: back to why owners become NFL owners because of money.
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  Speaker 5: Fifteen of the thirty NFL stadiums have real grass. The
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  Speaker 5: other fifty to thirty stadium because the Giants and the
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  Speaker 5: Jets and the Rims and Chargers share their fields. So
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  Speaker 5: fifteen of the thirty NFL stadiums have fee grass. Why
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  Speaker 5: do they have fake grass? Well, well you could make
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  Speaker 5: an argument of Colonel Yeah, Pittsburgh as l gross and
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  Speaker 5: they got raided the worst field in the league. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because they can't they share it with pitt and with
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  Speaker 5: the high school fields or high school teams in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 5: The Seahawks have always had artificial turf, they could do
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  Speaker 5: it in the Pacific Northwest. They could truck it in
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  Speaker 5: like Arizona and Las Vegas do on trees, grow it
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  Speaker 5: somewhere else outside of the elements they don't, And the
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  Speaker 5: fifteen out the fourteen other Stadians don't because they want
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  Speaker 5: to make money, because they want to have factor pools,
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  Speaker 5: motocrosses and concerts with how iven to damage their grass
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  Speaker 5: and spend the money to put in new grass? Well,
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  Speaker 5: what's interesting to me? I put a lot of stock
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  Speaker 5: into this because this is the players that are talking
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  Speaker 5: about what their daily lives are, and the teams absolutely
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  Speaker 5: pay attention to it. And the fact the league got
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  Speaker 5: an arbiter ruling to keep us from being public supposedly
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  Speaker 5: by the union, shows how much the league pays attention
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  Speaker 5: to This question comes out of this upside of me
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  Speaker 5: and I just posted the story for the News Tribune online.
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  Speaker 5: There used to be an O come will the new
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  Speaker 5: owners pay attention to this field issues? This is the
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  Speaker 5: one red flag as the sale goes on that the
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  Speaker 5: new ownership group could look at and say, what do
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  Speaker 5: we need to fix? With the Super Bowl champion Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: who seem to be doing everything right aha the field,
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  Speaker 5: and as we know, the World Cup's coming to Moomenfield
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  Speaker 5: this summer and it's going to have a real grass field.
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  Speaker 5: FIFA requires that international and World Cup matches pull on
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  Speaker 5: real grass, as it did the club will Cup in
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  Speaker 5: a temporary grass pitch of Movemanfield last summer. And the
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  Speaker 5: talk has been around in the locker room for a while,
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  Speaker 5: why don't we just keep the World Cup grass again?
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  Speaker 5: The players prefer grass eight days out of seven to
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  Speaker 5: play on. The league tries to throw up all this
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  Speaker 5: information at all. Turf doesn't add to injuries, and there's
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  Speaker 5: statistical evidence that grass and turf is a wash. That's
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  Speaker 5: bull to the players. They hate the turf, hate it.
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  Speaker 5: They hate this field. Turf that is at Seattle is
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  Speaker 5: any of the league so far? Is another infamous two
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  Speaker 5: soft stadium that knee injuries have occurred on. Will the
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  Speaker 5: new owners pay attention to this, send the money and
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  Speaker 5: put real grass in womenfield? That's the question to me
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  Speaker 5: came out of the survey.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bellis with us our Seahawks insider, joining us here
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  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck Well. As you've now left Indianapolis
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  Speaker 2: and the combined behind, what else did we learn before
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  Speaker 2: we got out of town? Did we get any sense
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  Speaker 2: as to where the organization seems most vulnerable, like where
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  Speaker 2: they might put their attention running back, cornerback edge. Considering
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  Speaker 2: all of the free agents and now at DeMarcus Lawrence story,
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  Speaker 2: do you got any sense as to what area they're
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  Speaker 2: most concerned about filling this offseason?
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  Speaker 5: Running back, offensive defensive line depth? Okay, they are not,
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  Speaker 5: though John Snyder made it clear off the podium on
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  Speaker 5: pty Bro and cameras. Here, Snyder mighte clear that this
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  Speaker 5: is not a good draft and the Seahawks are not good.
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  Speaker 5: Therefore invest in the draft. It's why they traded two
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  Speaker 5: third day picks of the Saints to get a Pro
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  Speaker 5: Bowl kick return in Rashid Shihed. They don't care, frankly,
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  Speaker 5: that they have four picks. I still think they're going
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  Speaker 5: to end up with one than four, especially because Snyder's
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  Speaker 5: at the bottom of each of the first three rounds.
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  Speaker 5: That's easy to trade down and pick up multiple picks later.
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  Speaker 5: They're not going to have thirty two first round players
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  Speaker 5: with first round grades, so it's really likely they're going
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  Speaker 5: to trade down from thirty two to get a cup more.
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  Speaker 5: But Snyder made clear he doesn't see this draft as
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  Speaker 5: a priority. He said that they were planning on this
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  Speaker 5: for years ago. They saw that last year and next
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  Speaker 5: year's draft are better, deeper, with better talent at the
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  Speaker 5: positions they need. And how does that affect their free
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  Speaker 5: agency plan? Does that mean they throw a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more money to Kenneth Walker because of the Zach Sharperny injury,
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  Speaker 5: because maybe there's not a running back they like in
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  Speaker 5: this class that's being ready to go right away. The
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  Speaker 5: problem what's relying on a college running back now is
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  Speaker 5: that there's so many Almost all college offenses are so
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  Speaker 5: past prolific and so putting cartoon characters on play cards
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  Speaker 5: and we were two word play calls. But there is
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  Speaker 5: a big adjustment period, especially at running back, from the
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  Speaker 5: college game to the NFL and to draft a guy
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  Speaker 5: to be your heir, to replace the Super Bowl MVP,
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  Speaker 5: and say this guy is a rookie can do what
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker did last year, it's probably full hearty. So
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: does that mean they make a bigger push to resign
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Walker and give him more money than they were going
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: to offer him? I think so. I still don't think
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Walker's coming back, but I think it has changed their
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: calculus quite a bit, but it was it was interesting
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: here here at the Combine that yeah, okay, we're going
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: to try to take a pass on this year, Jeff
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: four picks. We're not worried about that, all right.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Man, Well, enjoy your time in Michigan. Can't wait to
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: read the article about your adventures in the from the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Northeast to the Midwest. Uh, you might even you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: short story is what you might end up writing based
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: on all the information that you have, all the material.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it wouldn't even before I could quote my wife,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: I have accomplished to the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Well we had pictures. Yeah, I know, I'm a
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: published some of them worthy of publishing. Yeah. We had
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: a great qu had a great dinner on Sunday night
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: in Boston. Was everything was hunger down with the snows,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: salt trucks are out. We went to the North End
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: and depending once has been to Boston. Now, how quaint
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: and I do like and original. Lea says, that's part
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: of the highlight of the whole trip. Was really awesome
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: and we got to see our daughter and it's very
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: cool senior moment for Cretine but yeah, it was probably
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: should write a story, but it might be better than
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: anything I've written from the combine.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: This with family, friends, you know, fellow beat riders. I mean,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you've you've seen it all going from the snow to Michigan.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So yes, I think you got something there. All right, Greg, Well,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: have a great week and enjoy the family and we'll
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: talk to you on Monday.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: All right, I have a good weekend, all right, Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you a quick story about Nev Campbell. Oh yeah,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: so once fun a time I was working in Phoenix
• 21:47
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  Speaker 2: It's gone back to sports talk radio, but it was
• 21:52
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  Speaker 2: and he was he's older than us. He's about fifteen
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• 22:17
  Speaker 2: are about the same age. And so he throws out
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  Speaker 2: the like, who is your who's your Hollywood crush kind
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  Speaker 2: of topic, and so we go around the room and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: we are all describing these exotic, beautiful creatures that time
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• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and the whole show was like, oh, come on, like,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: she's cute and all, but gosh, you can pick anyone,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna pick Nev Campbell. That's terrible. So that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: was the conversation, and he kind of like he always
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: looks sad, and I go like, why are you being
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: so defensive. It's just guy talk. We're just sitting here
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: just ripping on each other. It's no big deal. About
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: a week later, I get invited to a party and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I meet his brand new wife for the first time,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and she looked exactly like Campbell and it was just like, oh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I get it now, and now I feel terrible.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, all you guys said was Yeah,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: she's pretty, she's cute, but she's not like Halle Berry, right,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And I think Nev Campbell would agree with that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I think so as well.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: But fake Nev Campbell his wife would have agreed with
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: that too.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: The fact that we just jumped all over three of us,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: like the moment it came out of his mouth, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know he had told her in the past, you
• 23:40
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• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that was that was an uncomfortable moment. That
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: would be all right, let's talk some mariners spring training,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: all right. So a lot of positives, a lot of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: superlatives being thrown out. And I did discuss this last week,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: but I do believe it's worth bringing back up again
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: because look, it's not gonna be easy. It's never gonna
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: be easy. I mean, the Dodgers are going to have
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: injuries for goodness sake before all is said and done.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But certainly I feel really good about this team. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna win the division. I think they're gonna
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: win it somewhat comfortably. And I don't mean they're gonna
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: run away and hide from the Astros. I don't win
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: by fifteen games. But you know what it's been like.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Even when we've done well in the last couple of
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: years and made the playoffs, it's been torture. It was
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: torturous last year, you know. I think that this season
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: is going to be a lot more comfortable from the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: standpoint of I don't think that we're going to go
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: two and twenty four in April and then have to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: dig out of a hole and have to save the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: season by going twenty eight and one in July.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: I hope, right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've lived with that too much. I realize
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: there are ups and downs and ebbs and flows in
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: all seasons, especially baseball seasons, but it's it's been exceptionally
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: torturous for the Mariners the last few years. Even in
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the successful years, even in the year that you won
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the division and took the crown off the astros head
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and got a first round by I mean, there were
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: times we were pulling our hair out. Yes last year.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to experience that same season.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So that's what I mean by comfortable. I think comfortably
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get where we need to get this year,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: win the division. I think we'll get a bye, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to be heavy, heavy contenders for
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: a World Series appearance. But that said, I mean, it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: not like there aren't some holes in the roster or
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: on the team. And I brought up one last week
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that I'd like to kind of expand on here today.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I think that there needs to be some concern about
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this team's defense, and fortunately Perry Hill is here. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Perry Hill, I mean, there are guys that show up
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and know the moment they arrive just by reputation, how
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: excited they are to work with Perry Hill defensively. I mean,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: think about hitter, you know, a positional player. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: most of them just want to like get in the cage.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But these are guys that are excited to work with
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Perry Hill to improve their defense and how simple he
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: makes it. And even Brendan Donovan talked about it like
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: very first day, like things triggered in his head like Okay,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: this is easier. I'm doing well now. So we do
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: have that advantage. And I do think that there's a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: chance that, you know, some of these question marks do
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: improve because of the coaching staff. But let's be honest
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: about it. I mean, Josh Naylor didn't have a great
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: reputation as a defensive first baseman before he got here.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: When he got here, I kind of warn you don't
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: expect great defense. And then for I don't know why,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: he was exceptional very good.
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I mean he was saving people left and right over
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: there at first base and so thoughtful as a base
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: mean Kevin Seitzer called him the best, said he has
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the best quarter awareness of anyone he's ever been around
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: as a player or a coach. And he's been in
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: with some good teams and around some really great players.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So Josh Naylor, I think we're good there. I don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: think he's going to like take a step back or
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: anything like that. I think that he's kind of found
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: this groove defensively, and I think he's going to be good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But just the fact that I said, Josh Naylor had
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to save a lot of errant throws last year, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: those guys that were making the errant throws are back, yep.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: JP Crawford's arm at the end of the year was toast.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Cole Young had some throwing issues. Twenty one years old.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I expect him to get better, but Cole Young is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: still adapting to a position, and he has a shortstop
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: his entire life and now he's playing second base. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he was better than Polonko last year defensively, but he
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't a Gold Glove contender. There were some issues there JP.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he can overcome his issues. JP's
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: metrics suggest that he has the worst range of any
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: shortstop that starts for a Major League baseball team in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the game. That typically doesn't get better the older that
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you get. I mean, JP's lateral quickness is so suspicious.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: If you saw him by the end of the year,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: he was getting like a two foot lead off of
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: first base because he was so timid that he couldn't
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: get back on a pickoff move that he wasn't even
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: threatening to get off the bag because he didn't want
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the pitcher to be enticed to throw over. Yeah, that's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a shortstop, so that's probably not gonna get any better.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Well his throwing return it should. There's no reason why
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: JP should have throwing issues like he had at the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: end of last year. Does he make the routine play?
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Is that enough to justify it? I suppose, But we're
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: not talking about JP ever winning a Gold Glove award again.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen because they factor defensive metrics
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: into their votes now, and you can't have the worst
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: range and among the worst defensive run saved numbers in
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball and the voters consider you a top
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: flight shortstop. So I think that's just what it is.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He's going to make the plays that are to him,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and he's not gonna make he's not gonna save many bases.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna turn many base hits into outs. I mean,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: that's just where we are with our shortstop. Brendan Donovan,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: by his own admission, at third base not a position
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that I've played consistently as a major leaguer. I've got
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: work to do, and that's why I'm excited to be
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: here with Perry Hill. If I'm going to be in
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: everyday third basement and we still don't know if that's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: going to be the case, then I've got I got
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to clean some things up. And I understand why he
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: wasn't an everyday third basement. He was with the Saint
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals and Nolan Aronado's one of the great defensive
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: players of all time, and he was standing in front
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of him. So you don't play Brendan Donovan at third
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: base in that case, So he's just not accustomed to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: playing there every day. And I'm sure he will be better,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: but I'm not I still don't know if I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: rate his defense at third as at least a question mark.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying a weakness, but it is at least
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: something to watch bear out. Randy rose Arena is a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: circus in left field, and sometimes he'll make terrific plays
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because of his athleticism and he can chase down balls,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and then other times, I mean he's lofting the ball in,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: he's throwing the wrong bases, he's I mean, he can
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: be a circus out there, and that aspect is not
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: going to improve. Its just not you know, And so
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to me, that's a major question mark and might even
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: be bordering on a weakness. And then in right field, yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I think you're fine when Roeblaze is out there. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna be fine when ref Snyder's out there.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be okay when Rayley's out there.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And then when ken Zone's out there, we got a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: little bit of a question.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: Really.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: The only places defensively that I think that you have
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: sure things are catcher and center field, and then I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: would put Nayler as the third most positive surest thing
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that we have. But when you start listing it off
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: second short, lack of range at short, lack of throwing
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: at second, No, not a lot of experience at third base,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a bit of a knucklehead as a left fielder, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: then a rotating right field where at some times you're
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: not going to have your best guy out there, they
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: start to stack up a little bit. So if we're
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a pitching first organization, well, having a great defense behind
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you really does matter. Yeah, So I don't think there's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: any way that I can convince myself that we're going
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: to have a great defense this year. I'm just hoping
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that we end up having a good defense, and I'll
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: even settle for Okay, if we start kicking the ball around,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, turning singles into doubles and things of that nature,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it could end up becoming an issue.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: And as far as I can tell, as positive as
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I am about this upcoming season, I mean, I'm climbing
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: up to ninety six to ninety seven wins for this
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: team this year. If there is a question mark, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: do think it is on the defensive side of the ball.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I think that's fair, especially with you know, outside of
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Cal Julio and Naleric, there's a lot of unknowns, and
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: especially what we saw last year from JP and a
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Rose Arena.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: I get it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something to monitor. I'm not saying to worry about it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: No, just something to you know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Don't go in thinking like, oh my gosh, we're gonna
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: just have gold gloves everywhere.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have two gold glovers on the entire team.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: That's it. We have two.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: No, Now we have a defensive coach who has turned
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: people who never even played the position before into goal glovers.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So we got that in our back pocket. But I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: would rank it as probably my biggest concern for this team.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair heading into the year. All right,
• 33:07
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  Speaker 2: and you don't want to be ill equipped. So let's
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  Speaker 2: get things started. Our top story today we will begin
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: with hockey after a three week layoff to accommodate the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Olympic break. The NHL resumed play on Wednesday, and that
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  Speaker 2: included the Seattle Krack and taking the ice on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: We spent days discussing how important it was for the
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Krack and to pick up where they left off before
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  Speaker 2: the Olympic break, where they'd won six out of their
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  Speaker 2: last eight games. They seem to have discuss a number
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  Speaker 2: one line with Veneers and McCann and Everley clicking. They
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  Speaker 2: seem to have two goaltenders that were playing pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: They were a playoff team if the season were to
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  Speaker 2: have ended right there before the Olympic break, there in
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  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup playoffs, but a streaky team. Could they
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  Speaker 2: afford to get out of the gates slow with this
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  Speaker 2: resumption of play that began on Wednesday, Will It's been
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  Speaker 2: a disaster since they resumed. A four to one loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Dallas Stars on Wednesday, and then last night
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  Speaker 2: facing a last place Saint Louis Blues team, the Kraken
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  Speaker 2: got whooped again. Saint Louis back.
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  Speaker 1: Of the offensivesn't look at May on the back door
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  Speaker 1: centeric passing front Pucked. In the followay scores, Puck was
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  Speaker 1: loose in the blue paint. Saint Louis had three guys
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  Speaker 1: around the top of the circle. The shot k from
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  Speaker 1: May to up the line, telling Holloway who gets the
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  Speaker 1: last touch. Blues goal back to back to take.
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  Speaker 2: A three to one lead. Have it fits you on
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  Speaker 2: the call right here on your flagship for cracking Hockey
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM. Dylan Holloway had
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  Speaker 2: three goals for the Blues. I think they call that
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  Speaker 2: a hat trick.
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  Speaker 8: They do.
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  Speaker 7: I saw the hats.
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  Speaker 2: And Saint Louis ends up winning by a final score
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  Speaker 2: of five to one. So Ashley in two games since
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  Speaker 2: returning with all the I mean we were kind of
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  Speaker 2: we were really open for pumps. Yeah, have some cracking
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  Speaker 2: hitting the ground, running all that rest, and you didn't
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  Speaker 2: have that many players play in the Olympics, so we
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  Speaker 2: were fresh and not banged up, and we could play
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  Speaker 2: the cord when other people were gonna have to sit
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  Speaker 2: their goalies because they were still tired from the Olympic
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  Speaker 2: experience or injured, and instead they've been outscored nine to two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's been disappointing, especially you go into
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  Speaker 4: the Dallas game thinking, okay, you know, this is a
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  Speaker 4: tough team, but they've got Attinger out, so we're at
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  Speaker 4: an advantage there. And they've you know, they've got all
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  Speaker 4: these players coming off the Olympic break. We don't have
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  Speaker 4: as many, so we're going to be at more of
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  Speaker 4: an advantage. They had more injuries. And then you lose,
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  Speaker 4: and Ian tells.
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  Speaker 7: Us, Okay, that's all right, it's a bad matchup. All right,
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  Speaker 7: that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll go into Saint Louis now here we're going
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  Speaker 4: to see the crack in that we should be seen,
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  Speaker 4: and they.
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  Speaker 7: Just didn't show up.
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  Speaker 4: So if that whole argument of rest versus rust, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we look rusty.
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  Speaker 2: Cracking, have lost all the momentum they carried into the break.
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  Speaker 2: They are zero to seven on the power play. That
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  Speaker 2: does not help. The Blues didn't even have a power
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  Speaker 2: play opportunity last night and they still outshot us I
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  Speaker 2: think by nine shots, thirty two to twenty three. I
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  Speaker 2: think was the final. So I mean it's disastrous. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't. It's two games, and so two games are
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  Speaker 2: not the rest of the season going to.
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  Speaker 7: Make, but two games that couldn't have gone worse.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly when you're expecting when you're getting hyped up and
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  Speaker 2: you're coming off the Olympic break and the US gold
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and you're excited to watch hockey again. And the last
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: time you watched the crack can play, they were playing well,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and you think that maybe the break would have been
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: more beneficial to them than their opponents, and instead you
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  Speaker 2: just stink up the ice two nights in a row.
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  Speaker 2: And Ian Forness told us yesterday when we put him
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  Speaker 2: on the show yesterday, said there was nothing to worry
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  Speaker 2: about after the Dallas game, but if they lose again
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  Speaker 2: to the Blues, then maybe we got something to worry about. Well,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: guess what, Ashley, here, we wake up on a Friday
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  Speaker 2: morning and it feels like I feel like we got
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: something to worry about.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it does feel very worrisome.
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got Vancouver coming in, who is not good,
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  Speaker 4: but neither was Saint Louis and Vancouver is your rival,
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  Speaker 4: so they're going to be amped up to play you,
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  Speaker 4: especially in your home.
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  Speaker 2: Home tomorrow night against the Canucks at seven o'clock. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe Eddie Olcich can make sense of it all. He's
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: going to join us today at nine o'clock. Ed Zo
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: his friends call him. Yes, I'm not one of those.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe one day, yeah, but maybe one day. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about his experience of calling the gold medal
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Olympic game and the Olympics in general, and then hopefully
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: he's got some answers to solve the kraken right now.
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  Speaker 2: He was angry last night. I mean he was just
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  Speaker 2: he was angry shoot the puck, you know, last night
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  Speaker 2: during his commentary, and so I have a feeling he'll
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  Speaker 2: be quite colorful. Eddie does not strike me as somebody.
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  Speaker 7: That holds back, doesn't mince words.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Item number two on our eight item o cho Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, it's difficult to repeat as champions. Your
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: free agents suddenly become more valuable because they've got Super
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Bowl champion attached to their name. So you're gonna lose
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  Speaker 2: some of those guys. You do worry in the offseason
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  Speaker 2: about complacency. Will the team still have the same hunger
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: now that they've won a Super Bowl? The guys you
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: do choose to pay, well, they have the same hunger
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: now that they're not chasing that big contract anymore. There's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a lot to worry about after you've won a Super Bowl.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: This one we didn't see coming. DeMarcus Lawrence, who trapes
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the Seattle streets on parade day topless. I mean, when
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you do that, you're on top of the world, right
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you are, when you're just half naked in public celebrating
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  Speaker 2: your achievements.
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  Speaker 7: Usually when I met my best I know, and so.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see this coming. But reports yesterday suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence, at age thirty three, twelve years into his
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  Speaker 2: National Football League career and only one year into his
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks career, is actually contemplating retirements and may not suit
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  Speaker 2: up for the Hawks or anyone else heading in to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, was on
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: with us at seven o'clock this morning and I asked
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: him what he's hearing about this?
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Well, we asked Mike McDonald at and he said that
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: last he talked to Lawrence, Lawrence wants to come back,
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: And I mean it makes sense that a player of
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: his stature, four time Pro bowler, has played a dozen
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: years in the league, going to be thirty four, goes
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: out after winning a Super Bowl. The one thing he
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: said he has always sought in the NFL when he
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: got to Seattle today he signed. He said, I'm here
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: because I thought this is my chance to win a
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl. He turned out to be correct. There had
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  Speaker 5: a great season doing it. So it is a natural
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: supposition that a player might want to go out on top,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: which is where I think this comes from. But as
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  Speaker 5: of two days ago, the coach says that the player
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: told him he's coming back. Now. McDonald did say that
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: can change, especially the further a player gets away from
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: this brotherhood that they had for the last eight seven,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: eight nine months. As of now, McDonald says that Lawrence
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: and everybody else makes it interview saying they're coming back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we shall see. Boy, I mean, I sort of
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get it. If that were the decision, I'd applaud him
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: for the decision.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: Not many athletes get to go out on top.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: And not many athletes can pull themselves away from the sport.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They're too addicted to the lifestyle and the competition to
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: pull themselves away. They say, in theory, it sounds nice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to play this long. As long as I
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: make this much money and I win a Super Bowl,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: then I'm going to be done. Well, not a lot
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: of them do it. I mean John Elway did it famously,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: but not a lot of guys actually pulled that off.
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  Speaker 2: There have been more that have decided before they made
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  Speaker 2: the millions, and like Patrick Willis, no, I just want
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  Speaker 2: to keep my health, so I'm done.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: No, I made a little bit of money, more than
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna make, and I'm done. But
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you don't rarely see the guy, or excuse me, you
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: rarely see the individual that actually does kind of script
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: it out and then when the time comes, does walk away.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: But after eleven seasons with Dallas DeMarcus, Lawrence rolled the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: dice to try to win a Super Bowl with the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: team that Vegas said was only gonna win like eight games. Yeah,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and it worked out. It worked out beautifully. He won
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. His play was outstanding. He was a
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: heavy contributor to the championship. But now it sounds like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: he's at least considering contemplating doing the old right off
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: into the sunset as a champion while my health is
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: still intact.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would commit him for doing it as well,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: because I do talk about that, you don't, you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I don't see many people that do go out on top.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: The only thing that I would think is the draw
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: of the challenge trying to go back to back and
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: would he be pulled into that. But at the same time,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: then if you don't win the Super Bowl again, now
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you're not going out on top. Now are you going
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: to try to come back again to do it? I mean,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: then you're in a vicious cycles, right.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: And that's usually what happened, yeah, because they do find
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: that motivation of oh Man back to back would be great.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So if he does it, I guess I got to
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: tip my cap to him. But it certainly comes as
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: a surprise. And now all of a sudden, Hawks are
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: staring dead at having two edge rushers in a very
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: short period of time, possibly leaving the organization Lawrence via retirement,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Mafe via free agency, which will start the tampering period
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: starts on March tenths or not too far away from that,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And suddenly you're looking at I mean, that's a position
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: where every organization looks for a pass rusher in the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: draft every offseason anyway, and if you're going to be
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: down to from jump heading into the offseason, I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I would want to know sooner than later if DeMarcus
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Lawrence is serious about absolutely.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: The NFL Combine is where you restock your stores. And
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what's going on this weekend. And Indy just
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a bunch of prospects running around in pajamas, getting timed,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: lifting weights, jumping high all that sort of thing. It
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: got started last night the first set of workouts that
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: featured the defensive linemen and the linebackers, so the front
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: seven guys. And this is supposed to be the best group.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's either this group or the offensive line group that
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: will participate in workouts on Sunday. They did not disappoint
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: last night. Apparently collectively the best forty times in the
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: history of the combine for the defensive tackles, the defensive ends,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and the lineback all three of them. Wow, had the
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: best combined forty times. So I don't know if that
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: suggests that the evolution of athletes, they just get faster
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: every single year, literally every single year, or if it
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: does suggest that this is that good of a group,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Like if there's a year to find a front seven guy,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: this might be the year. Because boy, the superlatives were
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: flying all over the place on the NFL network Draft
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: cover or combine coverage.
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: Like feathers from a down pillow.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Texas Tech defensive end David Bailey, who nearly I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say beat Oregon, but he kept them in the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: game against Oregon in the playoffs. If you remember him,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: he might end up being the second pick in the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: draft at six four, two fifty one. He ran a
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: four to five one forty last night and then got
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: upstaged by the Ohio State linebackers Arvel Reese and Sunny Styles,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: who each ran a four four to seven forty. Styles
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: also posted a record setting vertical leap for a man
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: his size at forty three and a half inches. My goodness,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: six four running a four four seven with a forty
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: three and a half inch vert that's incredible. Bailey, Rees
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and Styles could go two, three and four in the draft.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, that was a conversation last night.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a point in question. Rich Eysen
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: asked his experts the Jets number two on the clock.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Is their pick working out tonight? In other words, is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: it Bailey, Reese or Styles that is that we're watching?
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Is one of them going to be the Jet? Daniel
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah's answer was yes, I do believe that the number
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: two pick in the draft is going to be one
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: of these three dudes, and they put on a show,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: all three of them, and especially Styles. Yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Well n stunny Win's the name part of the best
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: named portion of the combine.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. And then afterwards he and teen Wolf went
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: driving around town and he did backflips off.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: The I'm not surprised by the top of the van.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Styles was his name.
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I remember I saw I saw teen Wolf
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: a lot.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if you'd seen that one. Yeah. Tonight,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the defensive backs and the tight ends are going to
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: be grouped together, and so we're going to see another
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Ohio state freak show in Caleb Downs participate amongst the others.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: So NFL Combine Day number two Saturday will be quarterbacks,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: running backs, and receivers, and as I mentioned on Sunday,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: it will be the offensive lineman. Mariner Spring training continues
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: in this weekend. There will be a feature attraction, the
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: number two overall pick from last year's draft, a gift
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: to Seattle really from those cheeky baseball gods. He's going
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: to take the mound for the first time in a
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: game as a Mariner in the Cactus League. Kate Anderson
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: is going to get the ball, so certainly a feature
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: attraction at this early stage in spring training. Kate Anderson,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of course, was the buzz of spring training while we
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: were down there, along with fellow prospect pitching prospect Ryan Sloan.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: We sat down chatted with both of them at one
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: point last week and Kate Anderson talked about what he
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: might be able to absorb from the five starting pitchers
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: who are going to of course fill out the rotation
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and at some point he's going to have to replace
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: I think each picture is unique. But when you look
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: at the starting rotation, they're just they go around, they
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: go about their business just so professionally, and you really
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: admire that. And when you just take things one step
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: at a time, just just really being able to watch
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: them and understanding of what they do is special. Just
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: you kind of can just kind of take that for
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: a grain of solid and just continue to work till come.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: What's the mission this year?
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Cade?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: What is what is the goal for you?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: I think what the Marriage are known for dominating the
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: strike zone. Okay, think when you when you have that mindset,
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: it makes things a lot easier on yourself.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: But what a way, What a cushy way to start
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: his professional career when he knows I'm pretty close to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: being major league ready, and because of the lottery drawing,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I get to go to an already good team, if
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: not a great team, they might be a eight team
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: this year. I think they will be a great team
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: this year. And so you get to sort of take
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: your time. You're not rushed into any action. And then
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: in the meantime you get to sort of learn from
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: guys who are of similar age, let's face it, and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: yet have a wealth of experience at the major league
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: level compared to you, have had success early in their
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: career and have all sorts of little nuggets of wisdom
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: to pass on to you. And in the past, maybe
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: those guys that represent that group would hold it against
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: you because you're trying to take their job. But this group,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they're so kind. Yeah, they're so nice. The chemistry between them,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you just want to be a part of it,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: and they want to put their arms around new teammates
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: and new prospects. It's really a great situation that the
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Mariners are in and Kate Anderson is in Yeah.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: He is, absolutely, and he can also learn a lot,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: I think from Emerson Hancock and what he's dealt with
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: over the last couple of years trying to break into
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: that rotation.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: And kept his great attitude. Yeah, exactly, and he's a sweetheart.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I love you sake.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Mariners were eight seven winners over Cleveland on Thursday, cold
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Emerson had a pair of hits. They'll play again today.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: The WBC is fast approaching. Fourteen Mariners are going to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: participate in this spring's World Baseball Classic. That's going to
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: break up spring training for the MS. I mean, they'll
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: continue with spring training, but they'll do it without a
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: significant part of their roster. The first games are going
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to be held March fourth. Participants will be leaving their
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: major league camps to join their national teams as early
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: as this Sunday. Cal Raleigh will represent America Andres Munos's
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: closer will represent Mexico. We asked Andres about facing Cal
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: potentially in the WBC and what that's going to be like.
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: No, no, oh, yes, wearing the same poluba. I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: talk to him, you know about u ousy, I would
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: like to avoid facing Yeah, actually, any of my bullopins.
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: He hasn't catching any of them. Hopefully he forget about
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: my stuff and he's ran new to him when I
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: win keys on the bucks, I don't think he's going
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: to catch any of my canes too, So.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I also don't think he's going to forget about yourself.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: So sorry to disappoint you. Ah, he's just a nation.
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: I hope that he forget about my stuff.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: He forgets about my stuff.
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: Well, he's probably not, but I love that you're hoping.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Uh. And then I love the when he's on the box.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, not in the box, on the box, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: love it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Oh man, he is awesome. I'm gonna get a poster
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of Munos put it on my wall.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: I want a poster of him and Matilda.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Uh so yes, uh WBC starting March fourth, but they'll
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: be leaving camp, all those guys coming up here on Sunday.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: And believe me, the Mariners Brass is not looking forward
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to that. It's just one of those things. They just
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: hold their breath and hope and cry a little bit. Sounders.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: They look to start two and oh, there'll be in
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: action tomorrow night and they will take on another team
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: that's trying to go to and oh.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: One of the Flying Elves is Shoot Tall chapter.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Real salt Lake doesn't actually have a nickname,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: but I do love the Flying Elvis's for them.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: It would be great.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be your nickname. Even the Real isn't real.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: The franchise is paying tribute to Real Madrid of Spain,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: even though there is zero connection between the franchises.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I think I've heard a lot of people say Salt
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Lake is the Madrid of the United States.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: A lot of people said that both teams are one
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and O. To start a brand new season, Jackson Feldt
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: is gonna join us today at nine point thirty. With
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: all the spring training coverage and Super Bowl and everything else,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: we haven't even gotten a jack Felt season preview, So
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get that today at nine point thirty. College basketball,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: You Dub will be in action tomorrow against Wisconsin at
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: one o'clock. But tomorrow's gonna be all about one of
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: the all time Husky greats. That is Debtlift Shrimp, who
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: will be honored by having his number retired to the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: honored guest.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: He also might love the song.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: He might love it, He should love it. It's a
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: great song and it's.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: Honoring his heritage, right. Yeah, you could play the fight song.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: He here's that all the time.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, play him a little ninety nine loof balloons
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and then have him just all the lights and have
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: him slow dance with his wife. He's at mid court.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: We just yelled Nina.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Spencer Owes is gonna join us next. I'm gonna find
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: out if he's gonna be there on the court with
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Debtlift tomorrow, and if not, I'll just ask him about Debtlift.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. All right,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: chucking Ashley with you, and a lot going on this weekend.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: You got a hockey game tomorrow night at seven o'clock
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: cracking versus the Canucks. We got Sounders in action tomorrow
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: at four point thirty against Reale Salt Lake Mariner. Spring
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: training throughout the weekend. NFL Combine going on. But let's
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: not forget to honor DEBTLIAF Shrimp college basketball game tomorrow,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: U Dub taking on Wisconsin and to join us to
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: talk some you Dub hoops and also his thoughts on
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you on DEBTLAF Shrimp's Big Day is another former Husky great,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: our friend Spencer Hawes joins us here on Chuck and Buck.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: How are you, sir, I'll do it well?
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: We got the right guy?
• 54:44
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I mean there's not some like anger between you and Debtlift.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I mean you are going to say good things about
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: him on the show today, aren't you?
• 54:54
  Speaker 11: It will be overwhelmingly positive.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Good wo.
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: Ever?
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Quite know? Right? No? I think we did know. So
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: in terms of this honor, Debtlive Triump, what do you
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: think of him receiving this from your university?
• 55:12
  Speaker 11: I think very well deserved and probably even more so overdue.
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: I think, you know, I think he had so much
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: success at the professional level, specifically with the Sonics, that
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: I think a lot of people and a lot of
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: basketball fans kind of forget what he meant for you,
• 55:30
  Speaker 11: dub and the success that he had there, you know,
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: in the early eighties, and so I think it's a
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: great opportunity finally to celebrate what he's meant for the
• 55:41
  Speaker 11: program and kind of the pillar that he was at
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: the Husky before he had such an incredible professional career.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: So what was your first exposure to him? What was
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: your age? What did dad and uncle think about Debtlave
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Tremp's game.
• 55:58
  Speaker 11: I mean, my I remember dead as a as an
• 56:01
  Speaker 11: iheard little kid Sonics fan and uh you know, gone
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: down the hill of the kier Ina and kind of
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: seeing the you know, the the original Big Three, I guess,
• 56:12
  Speaker 11: or at least for my generation, the Big Three of
• 56:14
  Speaker 11: the Sonics, of which, uh you know, I always think
• 56:17
  Speaker 11: back to that All Star picture. I can't remember which
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: year it was, but where it's a Debt uh Gp
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: and the rain Man I think they were. It was
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: back when they used to do the cool jerseys and
• 56:29
  Speaker 11: Phoenix and they all, you know, they took the All
• 56:31
  Speaker 11: Star Picture together, and so that's kind of obviously. I
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: wasn't around for his Husky era, but those are you know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: my first memories as a little kid watching him as
• 56:41
  Speaker 11: a star for the Sonics.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: When you were with the program, though, was he around
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: because he just seems so involved in the program right now,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: such an ambassador for you, dub hoops. So did you
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: have exposure to him while you were being recruited, while
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: you were being playing at all?
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean he wasn't you know. It wasn't like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 11: you know, go meet with Debt Lift and he's going
• 57:02
  Speaker 11: to tell you to come to you. That's just not
• 57:04
  Speaker 11: really how that Debt operates. But I mean, he's he's
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: always been such a killer in the community, I think
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: more so than than anything since he's been done playing
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: and all the work that he's done with so many
• 57:16
  Speaker 11: different charities in the area. And you know his golf tournament,
• 57:20
  Speaker 11: I think they ran for twenty five years, and all
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: the money they raised and the good things they were
• 57:25
  Speaker 11: able to do from that. So I think you're never
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: if you're running around Seattle, you're never far from bumping
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: into Debt, that's for sure.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: He just seems cool. He just really seems like he
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: figured out life along the way. I see photos of
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: him at his house or wherever, and I'm like, I
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: want to be Debtla Shrimp. Can I be Debtla Shrimp?
• 57:41
  Speaker 11: Yeah, fire Nstogi at a am getting ready to play
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: a little golf. It looks like a pretty good program.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be there by chance tomorrow?
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: I will, I will be there. I will be there
• 57:53
  Speaker 11: early with my dad and my uncle and happy for
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: him and his family. And like I said, overdue but
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: more than well deserved.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Spencer Hawes with us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: in the morning talking about Debtla Shremp, but not just
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: about Debtla Shremp and his big day tomorrow. I mean,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: how frustrated are you with the program right now to
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: be sitting here at five hundred and this was supposed
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to be uh, move, go ahead, go ahead.
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: Very frustrated.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna let you finish.
• 58:25
  Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's tough trying to balance you know,
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: the the almost unprecedented run of injuries that they have,
• 58:33
  Speaker 11: especially early in the season. But you know it's I
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: know Danny's not going to make an excuse for for that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: Every team goes through that, and you know, I I
• 58:43
  Speaker 11: really thought with the talent that they acquired this year
• 58:47
  Speaker 11: and the roster they put together, I think the expectations
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: were much higher than then where they're at. But you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 11: they got a few games here at the end to
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: put together a little streak. And I learned the other
• 58:59
  Speaker 11: day that everyone gets in Dagtam tournament, so we don't
• 59:01
  Speaker 11: have to worry about that. So I think this year
• 59:04
  Speaker 11: it's trying to plant when you got to play that
• 59:07
  Speaker 11: first game as far as possible, and then you know,
• 59:10
  Speaker 11: trying to go on a little around and see what happens.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Well, what what is what's missing? I mean two years
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: ago when he takes over, they spent the big money
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: on Osabor, and then that didn't really have the impact
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it was supposed to. And then he really dug in
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: and he seemed like he had created a roster that
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: should compete at least for an NCAA tournament appearance, and
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: yet it's falling far short of that barring some miracle
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: run in the Big Ten Tournament. So what is missing?
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: What's missing in the chemistry since coach Sprinkle took over.
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: Shooting? Shooting and shooting. I think in the modern game
• 59:49
  Speaker 11: of basketball, which you know kind of started at the
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: international level or the NBA, there's you know, there was
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: such a premium put on shooting, and like any things,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: that trickles down to the college game as it continues
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: to evolve. And it's just it's something that's been missing.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 11: You know, it's not just an issue Danny's dealing with.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: It's uh, it goes back before him. And when you
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: can't shoot, uh makes it a lot more difficult on
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 11: the offensive end, Uh, to be efficient and to really
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: establish an identity on on that end.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Of the floor.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And it's disappointing because Steinbach has just seemed it seems
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: to be a wasted year. I think he's he's certainly
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: better than I was expecting. Has he been better than
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: you were expecting?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: I think he's been better than he expected. If if
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: you read what he said before the season, he's been phenomenal.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: I think that's part of the most frustrating part about
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: how the Eaven's gone is another uh, you know, lottery
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: potential top ten talent that comes through and just doesn't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: you know, whatever the collection around him is not able
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: to produce the results.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Do they have the right guy? I know that's a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: tough question to ask you, But do you feel like,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: with more time that Danny's going to fix this thing?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 11: I do, And I think you know it's he was
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: not He did not come in under you know, anywhere
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: near positive circumstances when he took over, And I think
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: it's it can happen quickly, obviously in this new era
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: of transfers and nil and everything else. But I don't
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 11: think that's the at the end of the day, I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 11: don't think that's a sustainable way to build a program
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: and to UH and to take the steps to have
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: continued success because you're just so relighing on mercenaries here
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: and then year out, and I think it does take
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 11: some time. It takes some patience. Is as frustrating as
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: it is, uh, you know, from a fan perspective, But
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: I think I think we do have the right guy.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 11: I think the results will come, and I think it's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: going to take some continuity with younger guys developing and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: building a culture and hopefully starting to show an identity.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: I think that's a frustrating thing, is what a what
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: do we want to be on defense? What type of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: austins are you going to run that's going to lead
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: us to success.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Spencer Awis is with us Seattle Hoops Legend, joining us
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: here on Chuck and Buck this morning, talking a little
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: U dub basketball as the college basketball regular season is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: coming to an end. But now that I have you,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I do want to get your thoughts on something that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I've been bringing up a lot, maybe more than Ashley
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: and Bucky have wanted me to bring it up, But
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: this tanking issue in the National Basketball Association. What's your
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: read on it and what's your fix? I'm sure you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: got an idea floating around in your head.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: Well, it's nothing. I think the first thing to mention
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 11: is it's nothing new. Teams have been doing this for
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: a long time. I think it's just in this hypercharged
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: kind of world of you know, more exposure and social media.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 11: I don't I don't want to blame it on that,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 11: but you have people going way deeper into into some
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: of the you know, different methods of tanking. But that's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: not to say it isn't an issue. It's a problem.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: It always seems to creep up around All Star break
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: because you're kind of at that fisher cut bait point
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: of the season. But I think the thing they need
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: to folks that are from a deep perspective is they
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: need to try and rebrand it is, you know, developing
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: of the young players or something along those lines, because
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: that's really along with trying to secure that draft pick,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 11: that's the primary focus. When you look at the calendar
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 11: and you start doing the math and you say, all right,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 11: we're outside of the plan. There's not really a route
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: for us. We're going to try and get our draft
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: picks and our younger players some confidence and some experience
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: going forward. But I don't know if you've got to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: reshuffle the lottery. I mean, I don't begin to plan
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: to have to say I have an answer for it,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 11: but it's definitely an issue. I know it turns off
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: a lot of people. It turns off a lot of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 11: fan bases. And I'm glad that there's more of a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: conversation about it now because that will hopefully lead to
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: a solution to try and prevent it from happening, you know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 11: earlier and earlier in the season, as opposed to when
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: you kind of get to the end and there's no uh,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 11: you know, there's no playoff opportunity inside.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Well, there's just more of an incentive for losing right
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: now than being mediocre, and so I wonder if there
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: could be a change made. They're actually discussing that they'll
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: start keeping a different set of standings that you'll get
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: to a certain point of the year, and then the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: lottery standings will be wins that you get in the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: last month or two of the regular season. Seems highly confusing,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: but I'm open to any ideas Spencer that lead us
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: from decentivizing losing on purpose.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: Well, and I think it's I don't mind, I wouldn't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: mind seeing that play out. But I think I think
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: this year it's it's kind of hyper charged because I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: mean you look at the class coming out in the draft,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: coming out after a year or two of you know,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: good drafts that have been a little more top heavy.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 11: I think this one's a unique combination of you know,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 11: you give three or four guys arguably competing to be
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: the number one pick, but then you you drop behind
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: that and there's still so much talent in the pipeline
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: as you go further back in the first round. And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: I think that I think that fact in teams looking
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: at you know, even if we don't get the number
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: one pick, there's still a handful of guys that could
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: be franchised altering talents. You know, I saw something the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 11: other day that they value the number one pick this
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: year at one hundred million dollars, if you know, if
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: you could go trade on it. So it's as long
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: as you have that you know, kind of fruit dangling
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 11: for the for the teams at the bottom, Uh, you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 11: know they're going to prioritize that over you know, the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 11: near term success.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: How did you and the wife celebrate the Super Bowl?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: By the way, we were there, we look at you,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: and it was glorious.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: You soaked it all up.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 11: Uh. And then I had the opportunity. I'd stayed down
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 11: in San Francisco for a few days to catch a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 11: Spurs Warriors game right before All Star breaks. So I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 11: just I had a lot of fun walking around San
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: Francisco and Seahawk year twenty four seven.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: By the way, you did to help us get your
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: guy on. We've tried to reach out to the San
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs to get your guy on, and you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: you told us you got he said we needed to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: showcase him, Mitch, and yet we're we're still waiting for
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: a callback. I think maybe you've got to plant that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: scene and put him on the air. We'll celebrate his ass.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: He's a hard guy to get a hold of. Maybe
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 11: maybe i'll I'll come him. I'm going to interview him.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine, Yeah, come on down, we'll do that,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: all right. Yeah, Well, thank you, We appreciate your time
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: this morning. Enjoy Saturday, and we'll talk to you down
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the road.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 11: All right, Thanks for having me as always here.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Spencer allis the legendary Spencer Aws the Spence Needle himself,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: joining us right here on Chuck and Buck coming up
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: next Pajama Party Preview Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Here we go, final hour of this busy week here
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck in the Morning, Sports Radio ninety
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM. Bucky, you'll be back on Monday.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: It's been Ashley and I throughout the course of the week,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: and we just got an hour to go. We've reached
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: the anchor leg and so we sprint toward the finish
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: line that will include Booze after the tape hits our chests. Yeah,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Boo's News coming your way at nine forty five today.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: But we are also going to talk some hockey. We've
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: got a couple of things to talk about the good
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: of Sunday's gold medal and then the bad of the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Krakens start since they've resumed the season on Wednesday, and
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  Speaker 2: we've got the perfect and I mean the perfect guy
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  Speaker 2: to discuss it joining us now.
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  Speaker 12: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The man is friends affectually referred to as ed Zo.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we're quite in the friend zone yet, Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll call him mister olcik Eddie. Oldcick now joins
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  Speaker 2: us right here on Chuck and Buck, Come morning, sir.
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  Speaker 12: Hello Chuck, Hello Ashley, Hello Buck Werber?
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  Speaker 5: And the hell you are? You know what with that?
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  Speaker 12: With that intro, you can.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh man, I kind is that easy. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even have to do anything. I don't have to
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  Speaker 2: like run a lap around the building or prove that
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  Speaker 2: I can ice skate anything like that. No, no at all.
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  Speaker 2: I hope everybody's well.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations to the Hawks.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, that was I was over in Italy.
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  Speaker 12: You can imagine the time change was a little challenging
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  Speaker 12: watching the whole game, but I was lucky enough to
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  Speaker 12: tune in. Obviously, love the outcome and appreciated the not
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: a lot of scoring in that game, if you know
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  Speaker 12: what I mean. So it was a win win for
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  Speaker 12: yours truly, and congratulations to the to the Super Bowl champions.
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  Speaker 12: It was pretty awesome to watch from over in Italy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been pretty busy around here in the sports
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  Speaker 2: talk world here, and see, I had no question about it,
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  Speaker 2: and and I want to start by congratulating you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll tell me I didn't have anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with it, but you were on the call for
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: the game winning gold medal game on NBC, which proves
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  Speaker 2: that you're quite accomplished in this broadcasting field as well
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: as in your hockey profession as well. So what was
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: it like. What was it like to be on the
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  Speaker 2: call for that game and as great a game as
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: it was and for the US to come out on top.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, Chuck.
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  Speaker 12: It's my fifth Olympics that I've been able to be
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  Speaker 12: a part of, one on Radio three with the Best
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  Speaker 12: on Best twenty ten, twenty fourteen, and of course this
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 12: year twenty twenty six of Milan, and then I was
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 12: able to work for NBC back in the twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 12: or twenty two Olympics, so I can't remember, but it
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  Speaker 12: is an honor to be there. I'm a full disclosure.
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  Speaker 12: I'm an aluma of USA hockey. I played in the
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 12: Olympics in nineteen eighty four fourteen USA over in Syria
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  Speaker 12: of Yugoslavia, and I was inspired because of the American
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 12: I said nineteen eighty I was twelve turning thirteen at
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 12: that particular time, and I didn't know how you got
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  Speaker 12: to the Olympics. I didn't know how you got to.
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  Speaker 2: Make team USA. But all I wanted to do was
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  Speaker 2: to make it.
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  Speaker 12: And I thought realistically that I would be able to
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  Speaker 12: do it when I was an old guy. I thought
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 12: maybe when I was twenty twenty one, twenty four, twenty five,
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  Speaker 12: I didn't know, And sure enough, four years later I
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  Speaker 12: got an invitation as sixteen year old and made Team
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  Speaker 12: USA and played in the Olympics as a seventeen year old.
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  Speaker 12: And obviously at that time there were amateurs only where
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 12: everybody else was professionals. We were playing against the very best.
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  Speaker 12: But to know what that team did for me inspired
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  Speaker 12: the next generation of hockey players and just take people
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  Speaker 12: inside a little bit. That eighty team opened up the
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  Speaker 12: door on a national hockey league for American born players
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  Speaker 12: like myself that came in shortly after that. I came
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  Speaker 12: into the NHL in eighty four after I played in
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  Speaker 12: the Olympics, but at that time the numbers were very,
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  Speaker 12: very small of American born players playing in the NHL
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  Speaker 12: on a consistent basis that when got the attention of
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 12: the NHL and NHL executives and said, wow, these kids
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  Speaker 12: from the US aren't bad. And now here we are
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  Speaker 12: today where we can put the top fifty American born
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  Speaker 12: hockey players in the NHL against the top fifty of Canada,
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  Speaker 12: who are who are our our tribal And I can
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  Speaker 12: say that because I lived as a member of Team
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  Speaker 12: US for a long long time.
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  Speaker 2: That's come a long way.
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  Speaker 12: And you look now the NHL still dominated by Canadians,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 12: but that number with the Euros his jump dramatically. And
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  Speaker 12: I know that winning the gold medal on Sunday will
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  Speaker 12: inspire the next generation or the current generation of hockey players,
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  Speaker 12: saying I would love to do that. And I think
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  Speaker 12: sitting in that chair as I did remembering watching as
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  Speaker 12: a kid and as a fan of Team USA, I
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  Speaker 12: know what it did for me. I know what it
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  Speaker 12: did for hockey, and I think that to be able
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  Speaker 12: to bring it to people back home, I know it
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  Speaker 12: was early in the morning for everybody back in the sea,
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  Speaker 12: but it was a thrill of a lifetime and it
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  Speaker 12: was just great to be a part of it on
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  Speaker 12: the broadcast and something that I'll be a very very
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  Speaker 12: prouduct to see Team USA when their first gold medal
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  Speaker 12: in forty six years.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just say this as well ed Zoe, and
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  Speaker 2: that is that there was something to the broadcast. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we all think you're just excellent at what you do
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: in calling a game. But there was a little bit
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle like that's our guy, that's nailing it
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  Speaker 2: here tonight. So you know, you you, you had our
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: you had your fans here in Seattle that we were
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  Speaker 2: happy you were on the call and uh, and it
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  Speaker 2: was an excellent broadcast and uh. And then of course
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  Speaker 2: you were part of the intermissions as well, where you're
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  Speaker 2: given the key to the overtime and you gave the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: actual key and that is in three on three hockey,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: you got to create a two on one and that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what the US ended up with and executed it brilliantly.
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  Speaker 12: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that that goal, that chip tooth, smile of
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  Speaker 2: Hughes will be something we'll remember forever.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it really was, Chuck, It was you know, I felt.
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  Speaker 2: Like it would end early.
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  Speaker 12: And when I was on with Mike Turco during the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 12: UH in between the second and third period and then
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 12: obviously needed to jump on there and the intermission, it's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 12: just the game just felt bigger. And I mean we
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: all know, I mean when Mike Trico was in build,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 12: regardless of what venue it is, it'll be you know,
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  Speaker 12: NBA shortly for NBC and then doing the Super Bowl,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 12: you know, the win by the Hawks, and then you know,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: being there at the gold medal game, it's just it's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 12: it's it's a bigger game, and you know to be
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 12: up there and you know to kind of give that,
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  Speaker 12: you know, the sense of how this thing could play
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 12: out because of the dynamics of both teams in a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 12: skill level. But you're right, Zach Wrensky made the pass
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: over to Jack Hughes, who was very much instrumental in
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: what was going on both pro for taking a stick
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  Speaker 12: in the in the in the mouth and losing a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: couple of chicklists and then he took a penalty right
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 12: after that, and then he gets the you know, the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 12: ot Golden GWG and something that will be with him
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  Speaker 12: the rest of his life.
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  Speaker 2: And just the reaction and it was just so.
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  Speaker 12: Let me think about the right word, Chuck and Ashley,
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  Speaker 12: I just.
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  Speaker 2: It was just it was organic.
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  Speaker 12: There was no there was nothing staged like you just
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 12: saw the action.
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  Speaker 2: It was raw.
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  Speaker 12: It was proud to be from the United States of America.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: It was we took down our arch rivals. It was
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  Speaker 12: just it was it was beautiful. I mean, it really
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  Speaker 12: was because when you're playing in that in that setting
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  Speaker 12: and the expectations are through the roof, you're supposed to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: get to the gold medal game, you get out played
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  Speaker 12: quite frankly. And we said that on our broadcast a
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  Speaker 12: couple of times. They were lucky to get it to overtime.
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  Speaker 12: I think we said. I said, I, you know, the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: US is chanced after chance for the Canadians. I said,
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  Speaker 12: with about eight or nine minutes left to go in
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  Speaker 12: the third period, I just felt like the US has
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  Speaker 12: got to get to overtime. I mean, that would be
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  Speaker 12: the goal because if if Canada scores, it doesn't look
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: like the US are going to be able to score,
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  Speaker 12: at least in that five on five situation. So it
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: was it was awesome to see, and both the Hughes
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 12: brothers came up large. Quinn scored in the quarterfinals in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 12: overtime and then Jack wins the golden goal and gives
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 12: Tiamo say, their first gold medal in forty six years.
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  Speaker 5: So I just it was hard.
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  Speaker 12: I said that after the puck one in the net.
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  Speaker 12: I don't remember what I did. I don't remember how
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: I reacted. I almost I felt like I blacked out.
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  Speaker 12: It was just like, am I actually seeing this and
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 12: having an opportunity to be one of the first voices
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  Speaker 12: to be able to comment on it in our country
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  Speaker 12: and send it back home to everybody watching. It was
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: it was just it was. It was an awesome feeling
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 12: for a lot of different reasons. And full disclosure, I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 12: tried to play it right down the middle, you know,
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  Speaker 12: even though I was bleeding red, white and blue. All right,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 12: let me just say I was sweating red, white and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 12: blue in the third period. Let me just say that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 12: it was it wasn't looking good, But Connor Hallibuck did
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 12: just that. He made a couple of says that we're
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 12: going to remember the rest of our life and we'll
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: go on for a lot longer than when after we're
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 12: all gone. That that save on Devonte's with the paddle
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 12: of his stick was just it was just unbelievable. And yeah,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 12: you need a little luck every once in a while too,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 12: But that's a lot of great things happened. But that
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  Speaker 12: the tooth of AU's picture will, I think, will last
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 12: in everybody's mind for a long long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked the cord, like, which is the poster
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  Speaker 2: that will be on walls will be toothless Jack Hughes
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  Speaker 2: smiling after the goal, or will it be that stick
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: saved Hella bu He chose hell about yeah, But he's biased,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: you know, the goaltender biased. Ed old Chick is with us,
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  Speaker 2: he's got it.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 12: He's got to check he's got hey, Jack Chuck, he's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 12: got to check his uh his membership card at the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 12: door there when he's answered that question. The next time,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 12: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Ed old Chick with us right here on Chucking Buck
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: in the morning. And I do want to get to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: the kracking here in a moment. Sure, I do want
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: to ask about Hella Buck, because man, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: that overtime and I'm a mccarr, McKinnon and McDavid skating
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: after you. That might be the three best players in
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the world. They're skating after you, and he's and he
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: pushed them aside to I mean, people were saying it
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: might be the greatest goaltending performance in the history of hockey.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Are we prisoners of the moment suggesting that? Or was
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: it just that good?
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  Speaker 12: Well, when it's on the biggest stage like that, it'd
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: be hard to it'd be hard to argue that it
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 12: that it wouldn't be in the team picture now whether
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: or not it's you know number one. When you think
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 12: about some of the history of the National Hockey League
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: or even some of the you know, some of the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 12: you know inside the uh, you know inside hockey tournaments
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 12: that have been won you know, by certain players or
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 12: by certain teams and in different climates in the world,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 12: both on and off the ice. It's great debate and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: it's great argument, but I would have to say, when
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: you do look at it from start to finish, UH,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: the Canadians definitely deserve better. But you have the great
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 12: equalizer in goal, and we've seen that with is the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 12: great John Forsln loves to say the you know, the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 12: you know the UH, the general German and the German gentleman.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 12: And Philip Grubauer a couple of years ago when the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 12: Kraken were making their run in the playoffs and a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: couple of the games that he won again it's the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: Colorado Avalanche and that big upset.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: You need.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 12: Great goaltending and sometimes you need it to win a
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 12: game or two.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 11: And for Team USA, they just right.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 12: It was one game. It's a one game showdown. Now
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 12: if you play that in the Best of seventh series.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 12: You know it's going seven games because the teams are
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 12: so close. But in a one gamer, if somebody's just
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 12: got it for that sixty minutes and then a minute
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: and forty eight seconds or whatever it was in overtime,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: that's all you need and that can end up being
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 12: the difference. So I would not argue that that point
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 12: at all, that when it comes to being on top
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 12: of the mountain in the biggest game that we've seen
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 12: in many, many years, there's no doubt that that performance
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 12: by counter Hollibuck would be right there.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Ed Olchick is with us here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: in the morning of course, on the call for the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: US gold on Sunday, and then Ashley and I could
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: not wait for Cracking Hockey after that game to get
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: ready to watch the see if they can pick up
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: where they left off. Going into the Olympic break three
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: weeks without Cracking hockey, we were just sure they were
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: just gonna come out of the gates firing, and instead, Uh,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: they've played two of their worst games of the year.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: How do you make sense of it?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 12: You don't know what you got coming out, Chuck, You
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 12: don't Some teams are gonna come out and they're gonna
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 12: take advantage of this break. The break will be unbelievable
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 12: for some teams and it will be not good for others.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 12: And you know, we talked a little bit about that
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 12: on our on our Cracking broadcast last night with Johnny,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 12: JT and and Piper Is. You know you're gonna have
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 12: games like you did in Dallas and then last night
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 12: just I mean, look at it. There's no other way to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 12: say it. An awful start. And when you're chasing the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 12: game and you just it's it's tough to win. It's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: tough to to be there. You know, the power play
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 12: let them down in Dallas. The power play let them
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 12: down early last night. They did get better at the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 12: game on on because the power play has been a
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 12: that is saved them a lot this year. The goaltending
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 12: has been very good all year. Let me say that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 12: both both Joey and and Grewby have been very very
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 12: good for coach Lane Lambert, who I think has been
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 12: a hell of a hire and a very has done
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 12: a very very good job. Now the team is offensively challenged.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 12: They don't have a game breaker, which you need in
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 12: order to win in the National Hockey League. But you can't.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 12: You can't have a two game losing streak become four
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: and five and six now with only twenty four twenty
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 12: five games ago. Right, So that's that's where they are.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 12: It's disappointing at times. Third period in ballast. You know,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 12: last night there were some stretches there where they did
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 12: get to their game. The Cocko goal was outstanding team goal,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 12: but they needed more in that and last night was
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 12: a missed opportunity. Without a doubt, like that would probably
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 12: be the game I would imagine for the Lane and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 12: his staff and the players too that that game probably
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 12: is more or the one that probably really bangs you
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 12: up than anything else because Saint Louis has been in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 12: a tough spot. Points are there to be had and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 12: you're chasing the game and you don't get any there.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 12: So you gotta you gotta end the street tomorrow and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 12: you gotta you gotta turn this thing around because they
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 12: put themselves in a really good spot here. But you
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 12: got to start winning games because if you don't, you
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 12: could easily fall out. Because it's been that close.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: It's an important uh more so, I mean, when you
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: think of the environment we started this by you congratulating
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks on a Super Bowl. We've got a baseball
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: team that has a plan on getting the World Series.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I just I just want to get them to the playoffs.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I want them to get back and getting familiar with
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: qualifying for the Stanley Cup playoffs every year, and if
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: they can ramp up from there, great. Do you gotta
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: get a good feel that this team is going to
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: get there?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, they they've shown that with the year that
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 12: it's been.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: It's it's there.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: Really is.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 12: There's a couple of teams and they're both in and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 12: all three of them in are Central and I think
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 12: Vegas those are the four top teams. You got Colorado,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 12: you got Many, you got Dallas, and you got Vegas.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 12: And I think you put Edmonton.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: In that spot.
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  Speaker 12: But then you know, you got that's five teams. You
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  Speaker 12: got three spots left. I think you could put seven
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 12: or eight teams. And that's how close it is. And
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  Speaker 12: you're right, you make a perfect point, Chuck. There's success
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 12: within the city.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it is you.
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  Speaker 5: I could feel it.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm in town.
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  Speaker 12: You know the Mariners, the run they went on last year,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 12: the big dumper of the year that he had the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 12: Hawks doing what they did and getting home field and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 12: you know the buy and getting home field and you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 12: eventually win in the Super Bowl. I've lived that, not
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 12: only as a broadcaster in Chicago and when I did
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 12: Blackhawk games here for sixteen years, but you know, I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 12: coached in Pittsburgh and you know, there is you you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 12: feel it as an organization. You feel and it's and
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 12: it's great, and you say the right things, but but
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 12: you want to keep your end of the bargain up.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 12: And I don't think there's any doubt. And I haven't
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 12: had much talking in full disclosure. I mean for people
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 12: that may or may not know. My brother is an
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 12: AGM there with the Kraken, and Ronnie Francis is one
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 12: of my best friends, so they haven't talked about it,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 12: but they get the sense, you know, like from within
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 12: the organization now, players wise, coach wise. I've had no conversation,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 12: not no, but I've lived it. I've lived it as
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 12: a player. I remember when I was a rookie in
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 12: the NHL in nineteen eighty four eighty five, I was
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 12: playing for the Blackhawks. If you go back to that year,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: while the Chicago Bears were on their way to the
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl shuffle and take out the Patriots by about
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty points, and it puts. It does
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 12: put pressure because you don't want to let the city
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 12: down and it's not such a high and then when
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 12: you magnify it in Seattle right now with the baseball
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 12: in the football there, I'm sure that there is that
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 12: pressure to get into the playoffs. But they want to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 12: be playing really good hockey. And if they do like
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 12: they've done for a lot of this year under coach
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 12: Lane Lambert, I think that they give themselves the hell
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 12: of a spot, but right now they put themselves in
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 12: a tough spot because of losing the two games coming
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 12: off the Olympic break.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for joining us. We do
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate it here this morning. Hopefully the Krack and Get
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Going will be listening. But again, it was a blast
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: hearing you on the coverage for the Olympic gold and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: so great job, job well done, and hopefully we can
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: have another conversation because I really enjoyed this.
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  Speaker 5: Look forward to it. Thanks lot, and say how.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: To buck for me? All right, we'll do that, ed
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: olcheck joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in
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  Speaker 2: the Mornings on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three kJ r F m Eddie O, ed Zo, Yeah,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we're friends. Can't believe that happened that quickly.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: It was a surprise to me.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought he was going to keep you more
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: on an arms length arms distance.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: But well, we'll see when I run into them, Well
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: what happens.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: You'll have to walk up with your arms out like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: you're gonna go in for it. Hey body, brand's got
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: a Hey Zoe, bring it in.
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  Speaker 7: See what he does. Then you'll know if you're really friends.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think he's gonna call me
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: tonight out. Yeah, probably. I think we'll start with ed Zoe.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: And we'll work from there and it'll probably stay there.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well jealous Ian kind of does does it flippantly
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: on the broadcast.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like they've been friends their whole lives.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: He drops it a lot.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, kind of. It feels like he's rubbing
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: it in honestly a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate that's great stuff from him,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: and about the Kraken and his experience with the US
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: team and he did an excellent job that day. All right,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: coming up next on our radio program. We do this
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: every single year with this individual person, and we didn't
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: get to do it in a timely fashion. So when
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: we come back on the other side, we preview the
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Sounder season with Jackson Feld Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 2: three k A r F M.
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  Speaker 8: He's in.
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  Speaker 13: It's a disappointment, but that's just the reality of a
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 13: team that you know, it averages almost a trophy every
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 13: year over the last twelve years in some sort of form,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 13: whether it's a conference title, whether it's an MLS Cup,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 13: whether it's a League's Cup title like last year.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: So yeah, missing the playoffs.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 13: As Albert Rusnak, our star midfielders said at the season
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 13: opening press conference last week, it left a bad taste
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 13: in all of their mouths, and Brian Schmitzer, the head coach,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 13: echoed that in a comment that just followed where everybody
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 13: kind of looked at that Minnesota series, which was a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 13: first round series last year where they lost in a
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 13: just dramatic as hell, twelve round penalty kick shootout in
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 13: Minnesota where it was twenty degrees got it was cold there,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 13: I tell you what, And yeah, we all look at
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 13: that situation and just say, you gotta do better. You can't,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 13: can't get eliminated in the first round, Gotta go deeper,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 13: got to make a West Final, got to make an
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 13: MLS Cup, got to win in more than just a
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 13: League's Cup trophy. Brian Schmitzer cares about MLS Cup more
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 13: than any other trophy, and that is the goal.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So in order to get there, in order
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: to adjust it back on the right course, what are
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: what is the is the key? Is that the signings
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: that they made this offseason to improve theoretically the roster.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Is it getting back to a brand of Sounders soccer
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: that just wasn't there a year ago? Or does Brian
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Schmetzer need to get creative? I mean he is, you know,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: he is the wacky you know professor down there in
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: the laboratory. Is he going to come up with something new,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of tricks up his sleeve to kind of
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: readjust it that way? What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, Chuck, I think it's a couple of things. First,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 13: you kind of touched on it there. It's getting back
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 13: to the brand of Sounder soccer where we really want
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 13: all of our trophies, and that's being a defensive juggernaut.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 8: Defense wins championships. We all know that.
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  Speaker 13: And you know, as the Sounders won title after title
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 13: after title over the years, they really did, you know,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 13: use it by a phenomenal defense. And last year the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 13: team sort a record number of goals in club history.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 13: Over the twenty twenty five campaign, offense was just on
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 13: fire in a lot of different ways.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: Defensively, it fell off a little bit.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 13: They were still okay, they were still probably solid as
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 13: a good word for it, but they weren't great defensively
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 13: like they were in twenty twenty four and earlier. So
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 13: getting back to that brand of defensive soccer while maintaining
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 13: the offensive success you saw. But honestly, Chuck, the biggest
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 13: thing is just getting healthy and staying healthy. The final
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 13: day of the regular season last year, our star winger
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 13: Pedro de la Vega broke his kneecap and unfortunately a
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 13: game that he didn't need to be playing in, but
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 13: he was, and massive injury and he's going to be
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 13: out for pretty much the first half. Came into this
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: season and we all thought, all right, is he going
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 13: to before it? Is he going to be a winger.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 13: We need Jordan Morris to be a star and Jordan
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  Speaker 13: Morris five So.
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  Speaker 2: Without Morris, without day la Vega, I mean, those are
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of your star players. Is it by committee
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: that you just got to make it up a little
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: bit with those guys missing from the lineup, or is
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: there a player or too that has some star potential
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: that could really rise up this year and take advantage
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: of this opportunity.
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  Speaker 8: There is a star player or two. The first name
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: is Paul Rothrock.
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  Speaker 13: He's a kid from Capitol Hill who grew up in
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 13: the shadow of lumen Field and grew up a part
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 13: of the academy. He just grew up a Sounder fan
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 13: and he's been pretty darn good the last few years.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 13: And over the offseason, Chuck he had the opportunity to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 13: leave and go elsewhere for more money. Paul Rothrock decided,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 13: I'm going to take a far less contract to stay
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 13: in Seattle and play for the Sounders. And it kind
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 13: of came as a bit of a surprise to us
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 13: in the media, but he stayed. So when Jordan Morris
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 13: got injured with that strained quad five minutes into the
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 13: game last Sunday, Paul Rothrock came in, and Paul Rothrock
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 13: scored a goal and got an assist and put together
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 13: just more than just the goal. In the assist, he
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 13: was fantastic off the bench for Morris.
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  Speaker 8: So he's the.
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  Speaker 13: Guy that instantly slides in into Morris's spot. And then
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 13: the other guy up top and forward is a kid
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 13: named Osase de Rosario. I had the chance to catch
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 13: up with him on after the game on my Sounders
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 13: Weekly show earlier this week, and this dude, I tell
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 13: you what I was told by somebody who would know.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 13: He had one of the best preseasons that a certain
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 13: person with the team has ever seen, which is quite
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 13: a comment. Osase de Rosario is this kid who's a
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 13: big bodied forward. He's really good in the air, he
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 13: kind of moves well, very physical player, and he put
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 13: together this preseason.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: I believe he had a stretch of three, sorry, five
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: goals in three games.
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  Speaker 13: He is a really superhuman type looking guy, a massively confident.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 13: He's the son of a former MLS legend, Dwayne Dave Rosario,
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  Speaker 13: and he has come out just gangbusters to start twenty
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 13: twenty six. So he got the start at forward in
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 13: the first game he looks pretty darn good. And the
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 13: question now is can he keep building on this and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 13: be kind of a superstar in the making it forward.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Speaking of legends, Jackson, I mean, fry and roll Down
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: can be described as nothing but legends. If you you could,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play a game that you play on your show.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: You can only have one. Only one gets a statue someday.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Which one is it?
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  Speaker 13: Oh my god, what a question that is. Jeez, that's
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 13: damn near impossible. I'll go Brian Schmetzer's statue before both
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 13: of them. But that's you know, and they're both such legends.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 13: The weird thing about this season is they're in going
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 13: in such opposite directions with their lives and careers. Where
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 13: Stephen Frye is no longer your starting goalkeeper, he's now
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 13: your backup, and Andrew Thomas is now the starter who
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 13: has taken Steph's spot. Some of that's Andrew's just that good.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 13: Some of that Steph is on kind of the back
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 13: end in the last couple of years of his career. Meanwhile,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 13: Christian role Don is probably a easy bet to make
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 13: the United States men's national team for the World Cup.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 13: And I've said a number of times that if it
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 13: was available to bet on in Vegas, I would put
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 13: a lot of money down that. Come June nineteenth at
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 13: lumen Field, Christian roll Don is starting for the United
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 13: States against Australia in the World Cup in his own house.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 13: He's going to make the team, I think, and he's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 13: going to I think, challenge for a starting spot and
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 13: in that second World Cup game in the group stage
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 13: in Seattle, having Christian rolled On starting on his home field.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 13: I know that the head coach, Mauricio Pochettino for the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 13: United States, he's the type of guy who would allow
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 13: Christian to be in that massive position.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know this well. The World Cup like spark,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: you know, attendance for the Sounders or will it perhaps
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: take away considering how much attention it's going to.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 13: Get, it's a good question what the World Cup is
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 13: going to do. One of the things that happened earlier
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 13: this week is FIFA and some not only Seattle, but
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 13: some other host cities dialed back their you know, big
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 13: you know party plans for a certain activation and changed
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 13: it too kind of some smaller multiple city events across
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 13: the entire city. They did this with a few different sites,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 13: including Seattle, and I think it's sort of a sign.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 8: And then you can just overlook overall, look at the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: ticket sales.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 13: I don't think the World Cup is so far doing
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 13: what FIFA hoped.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: It would in the United States, and that's.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 13: Why I don't think it's going to take anything away
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 13: from the Sounders. If anything, you'll you will see I
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 13: think a slight bump in the soccer enthusiasm and appetite
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 13: across the nation, certainly more so in certain mart it's
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 13: I hope here, but yeah, what the World Cup does
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 13: for soccer in this country I think is it's I'm
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 13: a little concerned because because the appetite at least tickets
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 13: right now just doesn't seem to be there for the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 13: event yet. So that's something to monitor for sure as
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 13: we get closer to June.
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  Speaker 11: All Right.
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  Speaker 2: Prediction A short prediction. Brief prediction for tomorrow Reale Salt Lake.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 13: Sounders haven't beaten salt Lake in Salt Lake in a
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 13: very very long time. A draw is a win for
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 13: the Sounders, and I do think they get it. I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 13: think that this team is very very deep. A Saani
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 13: Dotson is out of concussion protocol. He's good for the midfield.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 13: So give me a one to one game tomorrow between
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 13: Seattle and Salt Lake.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: And big picture, your prediction for the season. You're typically
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: optimistic when we start the season. What are your thoughts
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: on what the Sounders can do this year.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 8: I do think they get healthy.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 13: I do think they're able to stay healthy, come together
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 13: defensively like they weren't last year, get enough offense to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 13: make a West Final. The problem is is that there
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 13: are some amazing teams in MLS this year, including LAFC,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 13: who is just stacked. They're probably the best team on
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 13: paper in the entire league. I think we get to
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 13: a West Final against LAFC. It's very hard to right
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 13: now to see Seattle beating LAFC in that game, But
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 13: crazier things have happened. There's a long summer where the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 13: Sounders are going to have some money to spend on players.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 13: So can we bring in a guy that could challenge
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 13: an LFC?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 8: God, we yeah. We started well.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 13: My first Sounder show Radio Cascadio Live in twenty seventeen,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 13: and then Sounders Weekly was in twenty eighteen, so I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 13: don't know how many.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: Years that is in the years.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ninth year.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've been doing we've been doing sounder broadcast that long.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Wow, look at you boy, you grows up and you
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: grows up. You know, Hey, Softie hasn't done one of
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: these crazy things in a while. I think you need
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: to get him out on the pitch at some point
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: and we'll see how many times he can run up
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: and down the field before collapsing.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: Well. See, yeah, that's the thing.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 13: I would want to see that, just to watch Softie
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 13: trip over himself five times.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Did he participate in that when you guys did the.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I don't think Softie either. Yeah, it was
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 13: the kicking Cancer event at Looming. I think I think
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 13: he stayed away from that event because he knew he
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 13: would injure himself. Like with the funny story from that event,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 13: of course, is that the current play by play voice
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 13: of our sounders here on KJR, Danny Jackson. He was
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 13: playing and he fell down and he tried to head
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 13: the ball after he fell down, and as he was
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 13: trying to head the ball, I tried to kick the
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 13: ball ended up giving Danny Jackson a black eye. So
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 13: that was that was a great story of how I
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 13: gave a Sounder legend and the current play by play
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 13: voice a black eye, but enough enough beer forgave him
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 13: about that.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: And you were so young at the time and knew yea, yeah,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: you wanted to make such a good impression on all
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: of these people and you end up kicking a guy
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: in the eye that you we can laugh about it now,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're laugh about it back then. All right, man, Well,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: have a great year and we'll check in with you
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: real soon. Anything about tonight's show that we need to discuss.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 8: We we have to.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 13: We have Greg Bell coming on, we got Humillan and
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  Speaker 13: Dick Fane from three to seven. I think we're working
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  Speaker 13: on probably touching down what's going on in Pori as well,
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  Speaker 13: and we'll see if we get the Sounders coach on.
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  Speaker 8: We're hoping for it, but yeah, we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, sir, appreciate it, Thank you, Chuck.
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