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Trouble in Italian calcio - Inter UCL loss reaction Ep. 295 Ft. SauceGMP · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Only one hope left for Italian teams in the Champions League,
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  Speaker 1: and it's probably not the the the black and Blue
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  Speaker 1: team that this guy was hoping for. John Marco from
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  Speaker 1: an interviews podcast Our Good Friend, Good Friend of the pod,
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  Speaker 1: John Marcos going.
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  Speaker 2: It's going good, man, I mean minus the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the bowing out to buddle glint. I think it's uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's been going good for me. I'm enjoying everything in
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  Speaker 2: the league and listen all the all the hope is
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  Speaker 2: uh now on the shoulders, So I guess we'll see
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  Speaker 2: how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say though, between you Ve and inter we
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  Speaker 1: kind of had, I want to say, exactly similar situations,
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  Speaker 1: but we each got scored on by former rivals players,
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  Speaker 1: so hous in your case and then the oc men
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  Speaker 1: in our case. So uh, former former city players coming
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  Speaker 1: back to haunt us. But well, yeah, well we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that.
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  Speaker 3: Couch of guys.
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  Speaker 3: Dano Nicholas, the other two guys. How's the wing.
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  Speaker 4: You gonna go first? I always I know we're going good.
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  Speaker 4: We're going good.
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  Speaker 5: It's good it's good to be back, always like always
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  Speaker 5: happy to have a guest on this week. John Marco
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  Speaker 5: has been on before, guys, and very knowledgeable and even
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  Speaker 5: though he's a good sport guys, even though uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the one on one aspect has failed, but you know,
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  Speaker 5: obviously a lot of success in the league. So, uh,
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  Speaker 5: we want to talk about tonight and I can't. I
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  Speaker 5: can't wait to get into it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I'm trying to. I'm just muted my mic
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  Speaker 6: for a second, sorry, because it.
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  Speaker 7: Just seems like, oh, yeah, I have the stereotypical ethnic
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  Speaker 7: thing of like, oh it's what is it's eight o'clock,
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  Speaker 7: nine o'clock at night. Let's have everybody at the house
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  Speaker 7: and doing a bunch of stuff like once cleaning the bathroom.
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  Speaker 7: The other one is playing with my younger cousin. Anyways,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm doing that bad.
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  Speaker 4: Exhausted Giants can never shut up.
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  Speaker 6: Italians can never shut up. Ever seen those like TikTok clips?
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  Speaker 7: If it's like you're trying to sleep in bedroom and
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  Speaker 7: it's like it's like it's like the joke is it's
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  Speaker 7: always like somebody likes being in the bedrooms, like when
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  Speaker 7: your family's like Mexican or your family's Italian or whatever.
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  Speaker 7: It's like all of a sudden, like they slapped the
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  Speaker 7: door open, and people are like stuff.
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  Speaker 5: In the morning, Sunday morning, and everybody's voc you mean
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  Speaker 5: fucking making a remote every like every.
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  Speaker 6: God, that's what it feels like right now.
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  Speaker 7: But I'm very good, little exhausted from all the things
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  Speaker 7: going on.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait for.
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  Speaker 6: Some stuff to wrap up at the school. But uh,
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  Speaker 6: doing good, doing good, because it's keeping me busy, right,
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  Speaker 6: That's so that's what that's what that's what matters.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Champions League disappointing for two Italian teams.
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  Speaker 3: Uh for Inter.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, John Mark, we we we spoke about
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  Speaker 1: it on the pod before two weeks ago, before the
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  Speaker 1: knockout round. We kind of not expected all three Italian
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  Speaker 1: teams to go through, but kind of said all three
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  Speaker 1: town teams should go through. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: betting odds were, what the favorites were in uvent case,
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  Speaker 1: but for sure Inter was the favorite against Bodo Glimp.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing I did say, this is a tough team.
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  Speaker 1: I saw them play Juve earlier the year, in the
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  Speaker 1: year in the in the first round of the Champions League.
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  Speaker 1: Cold ass stadium. I don't know if it was cold
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  Speaker 1: when they played away.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, this reason tough.
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  Speaker 1: Tough place to play. You're playing next to like apartment buildings,
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  Speaker 1: people are on their balconies watching.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, tough place to play.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly this team has has some success already in
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  Speaker 1: Europe and they came to play and they did and
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  Speaker 1: it's just obviously it isn't a disappointment. It is a
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  Speaker 1: disappointment right for enter. But it's almost like a case
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  Speaker 1: where maybe I don't know if they took them too
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  Speaker 1: lightly or or what the case is.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we did as.
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  Speaker 1: Fans, but I don't know what what did you see
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  Speaker 1: in the in these two games and two losses?
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  Speaker 3: That's why? Yeah, two losses against botolimp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's it. It is embarrassing obviously. I think
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't look good for the league, right. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel like if you're fans of other leagues, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the SETI on you and you like the point
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  Speaker 2: and laugh and they you know, they look at it
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  Speaker 2: as an in against the league and the talent level
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  Speaker 2: and the stuff like that.
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  Speaker 8: And I mean, did I expect to win?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not gonna sity and pretend like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Bottle Glimp was gonna be able to handle us,
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  Speaker 2: But I did also see how they were able to
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  Speaker 2: defeat Manchester City. They were able to beat Alet to
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  Speaker 2: go madd It's not like they're a Sunday League team
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  Speaker 2: and we should have just like bowl over them, no issues. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they they have talent. They play as a unit,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is always good when you when you
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  Speaker 2: play as the whole instead of the individuals, that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be you know, both to your favor for sure,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, playing in those those elements, they're accustomed
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  Speaker 2: to it int there. I think any team that goes
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  Speaker 2: to Bottle Glimph away is not going to be used
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  Speaker 2: to that, you know, sub zero weather and stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: think at kickoff they said it was minus four celsius there,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they're playing on turf. Apparently before the
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  Speaker 2: match they had to like staple it down though because
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  Speaker 2: it was like coming up and stuff. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like really the best conditions to play with. And even
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  Speaker 2: though in the trained on a turf surface, you're still
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be able to to duplicate the cold and
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you guys have played
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  Speaker 2: in that kind of weather. I know I have when
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  Speaker 2: I was out in Denver for a tournament and your
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  Speaker 2: legs feel heavy in the cold. You feel like you're
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  Speaker 2: just not able to really get up to top speed,
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  Speaker 2: and although your brain is telling you what to do,
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  Speaker 2: you're not able to react the same way. So it
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  Speaker 2: was always going to be a challenge. And then I
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  Speaker 2: was really hoping to hold on to a draw in
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  Speaker 2: that first leg and then maybe be able to get
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  Speaker 2: them back at home. But unfortunately, you know, we lost
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  Speaker 2: to injury there and it kind of felt like an
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  Speaker 2: insurmountable task, you know, on the on the second leg.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest, yeah, Johnny are muted.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry forgots because the doctor's marking. I have to agree
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  Speaker 6: with your playing in that kind of weather.
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  Speaker 7: It is extremely, extremely difficult because you need to get
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  Speaker 7: yourself moving just to you know, deal with it right like,
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  Speaker 7: and if you're not moving, it just gets.
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  Speaker 6: To science just gets to your.
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  Speaker 7: Bones too, you know what I mean, Like, and it
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  Speaker 7: just ah, it just I think that's the apps were
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  Speaker 7: so but yeah, I think it just goes to show
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  Speaker 7: like even what it is as much of like training
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  Speaker 7: as possible sometimes hold people vantage just a bit too
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  Speaker 7: much to overcome for sure.
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  Speaker 5: And John Mark, I like your point on on Bortal
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  Speaker 5: Glimp obviously you know, playing as a unit, and I
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  Speaker 5: think it was that that was probably the X factor
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  Speaker 5: them playing on it as a unit. I felt like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, Inter, it's weird because we watch them
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  Speaker 5: in City a weekend and week out and you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's this big, bad monster of a team, right and
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  Speaker 5: you know, shift over to Europe and it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: lately it's.
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  Speaker 4: Been a different story.
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  Speaker 5: So and I said it last week too, a like
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  Speaker 5: and you know, in the previous weeks, like it's an
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  Speaker 5: embarrassment for the teams in the first leg to drop
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  Speaker 5: the way they did, and you know, for for Inter's sake,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously we'll probably speak about Juventus's sake later on,
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  Speaker 5: but I think it was it was how they fell
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  Speaker 5: in the first leg that ultimately was a bit too
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  Speaker 5: too much to come back from for for for both teams.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, again I think it was I think
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  Speaker 5: it was the cup I saw on your Guys show, Nema.
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  Speaker 5: I think I said, you know, into a bit too naive,
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  Speaker 5: just one of your thoughts on that, because I did.
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  Speaker 5: I did kind of resonate with that because it seemed
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  Speaker 5: that way even being a rival fan. You know, you
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  Speaker 5: look at Inter and you're like, listen, they a good
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  Speaker 5: team obviously, but and on paper they should be beating
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  Speaker 5: Bodo GUYMPT. But when it comes to on the field,
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  Speaker 5: did you did you kind of sense that too, that
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  Speaker 5: without your same feelings or like, was it just something
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  Speaker 5: else that was that was offer.
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  Speaker 2: Intern Yeah, I think that was definitely a big part
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  Speaker 2: of it. You know, Listen, I give I give Keybo
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  Speaker 2: a lot of credit. I know a lot of Dedis
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  Speaker 2: are not his biggest fan, and they don't want him
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  Speaker 2: to be there for whatever. I don't understand, Like he's
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  Speaker 2: a club legend, he's in first place. I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: do you want, Like, I don't know, Well, why do
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  Speaker 2: you want to replace him? It makes no sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, it drives me crazy because they're actively rooting
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  Speaker 2: against him, like they they want him to fail so
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  Speaker 2: that they could be justified and kind of say that
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  Speaker 2: they were right all along.
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  Speaker 8: So sure, it drives me.
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  Speaker 2: But there are times that Kivu shows that he is
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  Speaker 2: a little young here, he's a little green As as
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  Speaker 2: a manager he has owned before he started managing it
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  Speaker 2: in there, he only had like thirteen games of management
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  Speaker 2: at top level, even though he was the coach, had
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  Speaker 2: int that it it just wasn't a lot of experience
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  Speaker 2: and wanting to go to bottle glimpse knowing the conditions,
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  Speaker 2: knowing what was going to be at stake to try
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  Speaker 2: to play that high press one is crazy when you
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  Speaker 2: have a player like a Cheddaby in your back line,
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  Speaker 2: because the guy is a refrigerator. When he runs like
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  Speaker 2: he just there's no speed, there's no pace, he's unable
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  Speaker 2: to to cut react. It's just it's a it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a crazy thing. And then you will put more pressure
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  Speaker 2: on your other center backs to kind of make up
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  Speaker 2: for what he's not bringing. And you saw in that
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  Speaker 2: game that they were just a lot of disconnection, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of players trying to cover space that others were
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  Speaker 2: leaving vacant and then leaving their space vacant, and it
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  Speaker 2: just was sloppy at the back. I mean a lot
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  Speaker 2: two of those goals were preventable for sure, had you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe played a little bit more reserved. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you had to play like I think once
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  Speaker 2: you equalized and made it one to one, parked the
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  Speaker 2: bus and just hang on for dear life and try
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  Speaker 2: to just leave out of there with a draw. I think,
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  Speaker 2: to continue to go after it the way that we were,
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  Speaker 2: and then typical into the fashion like if we're not
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  Speaker 2: able to score and we have all these opportunities but
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  Speaker 2: we can't finish, it always seems that the very next
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  Speaker 2: shot for the opponent goes in and then that's it,
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  Speaker 2: like the momentum's broken for us. And that's inevitably what
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  Speaker 2: happened with with Boto Glimpse. And look, I give them
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  Speaker 2: a lot of credit to because they had a bend
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  Speaker 2: but don't break mentality, like they were absorbing all the
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  Speaker 2: pressure that Ether were trying to bring, and then when
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  Speaker 2: once they had the opportunities on the counter, they took advantage.
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  Speaker 2: They really knew who to pinpoint as the weaknesses, which
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: were really just Bastoni and I chid Tobe, who I
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  Speaker 2: thought were both horrendous in that first leg and both
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: were caught like just kind of tripping over themselves.
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  Speaker 8: And then Hoague and Hog I think I get them.
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  Speaker 2: I always kind of mess up both of their names,
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  Speaker 2: but they were both like just cutting us up and
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  Speaker 2: having these nice interchanging plays between them, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: ended up scoring each and listen, hats off to them.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think, yeah, if I agree with Nima
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  Speaker 2: that I've Kivu had played a little bit more defensive
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  Speaker 2: minded and just thought, hey, let's get out of here
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  Speaker 2: with a draw, will take care of them at home.
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  Speaker 2: It probably would have been a different tie altogether for us.
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  Speaker 3: So it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys knew, but Boto Glimp
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  Speaker 1: they're not in the middle of a season right now.
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  Speaker 1: They finished. The Norwegian season goes I think from April
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  Speaker 1: to November.
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  Speaker 3: I just read.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously it's cold in the winter. It makes sense that
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  Speaker 1: they're not playing, so they finished November thirty. At their season,
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  Speaker 1: they've only played Champions League and a couple of friendlies
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  Speaker 1: since then.
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  Speaker 3: They're fresh.
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  Speaker 1: They came into this game fresh intern On the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we know they played in the Kopa. They're playing
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  Speaker 1: every single weekend in the city and doing well. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that fatigue factor maybe played in and the
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  Speaker 1: lack of effect fatigue four Boto Glimp kind of helped them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a great point that you
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  Speaker 2: brought up, you know, like I brought it up on
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  Speaker 2: the pod yesterday. Boto had played four competitive games in
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  Speaker 2: the last month, whereas he have played ten. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that definitely is a factor. For sure, you have injuries
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  Speaker 2: that we had, Like listen, when you're losing someone like
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  Speaker 2: your captain and Latado Martinez. He is leading the league
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  Speaker 2: in goals, right he does everything else so well, the pressing,
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  Speaker 2: the control, the passing, everything that he's able to bring
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  Speaker 2: it is a huge miss and some other guys have
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  Speaker 2: been underperforming that that we're relied upon, like Marcus Turam
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  Speaker 2: has been a bit of a disappointment for us recently,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, really since like November, it's just been
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  Speaker 2: a shell of the player that we thought he would be,
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  Speaker 2: and he's kind of just been riding along with Lotado's coattail. Granted,
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  Speaker 2: Po has has elevated his game and been able to
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  Speaker 2: step up in the role, but it's only been good
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  Speaker 2: because he was playing with Lotao. Now it's been a
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  Speaker 2: little bit harder, but that rest for Bodo. I definitely
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  Speaker 2: think keeps them fresh is allow them to you know,
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  Speaker 2: play their strongest eleven, play them long minutes and not
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: have to worry like, oh, we got to save him
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  Speaker 2: for the weekend game in the league. Like they they
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: were able to just go and not have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about that, whereas you know in the first leg he
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  Speaker 2: who had to make some substitutions, obviously Lotado getting injured,
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  Speaker 2: he had to go bring on Bonie there, and you
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  Speaker 2: know you wanted to preserve the Modico preserve is alien
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  Speaker 2: Ski guys who have been playing at the top of
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  Speaker 2: their level for the league. So it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: a tough balance. Whereas they were able to keep things fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Not an excuse for why we lost, but like but
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  Speaker 2: but it does make it a little bit easier.
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  Speaker 8: I would say, right, sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, like if like if I'm
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  Speaker 5: an inter fan, like I don't want to hear those
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  Speaker 5: excuses like like you know what I mean, like yeah,
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  Speaker 5: finding dandy like whatever, it is, Like that's that's what
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  Speaker 5: it is.
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  Speaker 4: They're not in the league, they're not playing, they're fresh.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine.
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  Speaker 5: But again, you know, as if I was in into LISTA,
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  Speaker 5: like I would not want to even hear that because
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: we like the team should be beating, like like there's
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: there's there's no shoes. Like the same way I felt
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  Speaker 5: about Inter, I felt about about Juventus right, like they
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  Speaker 5: should be beating guy us that I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: hear it, Like when are we gonna stop the excuses
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  Speaker 5: as a league? Forget the individual clubs because we we've
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: we all have, you know, our favorite clubs, and that
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  Speaker 5: that's fine, We're gonna have our biases, but as a league,
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  Speaker 5: as a as a.
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  Speaker 4: Whole, like when do these excuses stop?
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  Speaker 5: And when do we actually take these competitions by the
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  Speaker 5: by the horns and and and and go for it,
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  Speaker 5: because like I said last week, and you know, we
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  Speaker 5: clipped it, you know, besides Inter's two finals that again,
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  Speaker 5: are they fosters in the pan? Like I said last week,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, but we haven't really seen any success.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, we're gonna we're gonna look back on
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  Speaker 5: this matchup and say, well, you know, Inter lost, you know,
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  Speaker 5: through two legs to Borto Glump. And you know a
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  Speaker 5: side fact, you know, Borto Grimp is not in the
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: league right now. They're they're they're a fresher team. Like personally,
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  Speaker 5: if I was a fan, I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about you, Ja Marco, like if that
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  Speaker 5: you feel the same sentiment, But that's just the way
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  Speaker 5: I felt.
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  Speaker 2: No, there's there's no reason for us to be losing
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  Speaker 2: to a team like Bortle Glimp Like yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Granted, yeah you could. You could say they have those
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  Speaker 8: a bit and I yeah, I brought them up just because.
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  Speaker 4: They they are I agree with, But it.
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  Speaker 2: Also doesn't excuse like talent wise, none of those guys,
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  Speaker 2: even if Jens Peter Hagg was playing for for Milan,
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  Speaker 2: right and he was you know, discovered by Maldini and
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  Speaker 2: now people feel like he's a little vindicated for that
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  Speaker 2: that signing and stuff, But like at the end of
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: the day, he's playing in Norway, right, He's not playing
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: in the EPL, he's not playing in La Liga. He's
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: in Norway, And none of those guys would even be
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: able to get into the starting eleven at a club
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: like at a club like Juventus, Milan or Monopoly, whoever
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: you want to throw.
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: Out there, None of those guys would really be starters there.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: So we should have beaten them even with our B squad,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: even with you know, the injuries, whatever it is else
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: that that that came along the way.
• 14:44
  Speaker 8: It shouldn't have been an issue.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, I I listen, hats off to them
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: because they came up the right mentality, the right game plan,
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: they knew how to counter, and I will say even
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: when we made adjustments, they made adjustments in game as
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: well that negated everything that we were trying to do.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: So maybe their coach gets, you know, a look at
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: other leagues because of the way that he's able to
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: work with the players that he has at his disposal.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Obviously with a with a much smaller transfer budget like
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: The most expensive purchase was four hundred and fifty K.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: They said, So like, that's we we cry that we
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: can't sign a thirty million player in the SETI ah,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: these guys can't even sign a million dollar player, you know,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: So it's crazy, It's it is pretty nuts. But listen,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, they they
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: had the right mentality, the right tactics, and they played
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: better than us and over two legs, and the only
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: excuse is on on the players themselves.
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: I don't want to blame Kiu.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people want to, but at
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: these players were still losing within Zagi as manager. They
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: were losing with Conte as manager for the most part,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: So it's like you can't blame the player because it's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: the same formation they were accustomed to.
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: What they're supposed to be doing.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: They should be outperforming these guys no matter what the
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: temperature is, no matter who's in the lineup, it still
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: should have been you know, us moving on to the
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: run of sixteen. But not the case unfortunately.
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: So when do you start saying that is this is
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: like probably a mental issue with the roster, like and
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: if it is a mental issue, like where how would
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: you pinpoint that? You know, like is it a core
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: that needs to be changed? Is it a player or
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: two that needs to be changed?
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: You know, Like where do you go?
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: Like where do you go from here?
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: Because I I think that like just to continue, just
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: to kind of circle back a bit to your point
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: earlier before. I feel that the little indidistis like outrage
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: towards you know, them not performing in Champions League. It's
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: just a tiny bit justified because they have been dominating
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: City out recently in a sense, like I want to
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: say dominating, but you know, they're established themselves as like
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: they are the they can win us Budeto. You know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: like that's fine. What what Indidisi want is the Champions League.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: You know, they want they want to catch they want
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: to catch up to to Milan. Obviously it's gonna be forever,
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: but they want they want those Champions League titles. So
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: where do you go from here? That's that's that's the thing. Like, well,
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you have any opinions that you want
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: to share about, like where.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Do you think love that you asked this because I've
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: been wanting to talk about this on on my podcast
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and Alasanodo's kind of like wanted me to save it
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: for for the end of the season kind of thing.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: But so we'll we'll roll out the red carpets.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I just for anyone watching and listening,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: they did not I did not cueue this up. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: did not say, hey, ask me this like this was
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: just pure organic questioning, I guess, but it was like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: it's just something like, look, I think there is a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: mentality issue for sure at in there. I think that
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: there is a core that needs to be moved on from.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And one thing that INC don't like to admit is
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that I think a lot of the players are overrated
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: in some aspects. I think that a lot of the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: guys that I you know, that we love and listen,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I love them at the club, but I don't think
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that they are world class and you know, compared to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: other players, like but that is my favorite player. He
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: hasn't been good for a year and a half. It's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: hard for me to to hide that bias sometimes because
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: like where others are very harsh on him, which I
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: think is like a little over the top. I kind
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: of like shield him a little. I think that he
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: had listened in world football. The only player who's played
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: more games and minutes than him in Europe is Bruno Fernandez.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Like he has in the last five years played an
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: insane amount of minutes he's been available.
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: He doesn't really get in.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: This year was the first time I've seen him get
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: injured and he only missed two weeks or two games,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I should say, So it's.
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: It's tough with with Barella.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I think Bastoni as a defender has a lot of
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: holes in his game, like moving the ball forward, playing
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: on the ball. Incredible player in terms of actually playing
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: as a center back. I don't really think that he's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: good and he's only really good in a back three.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: We've seen him in the national team unable to play
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: well in a back four. I think that's you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: some people do all Bustoni is the best. Bustoni is
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the best just on the ball, like fine that, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: if you want him defending or man marking someone, even
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: being able to keep with someone's stride for stride, not there,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Di Marco. I mean best left going back
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: for sure in the world, I think right now, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: you can, you know, look at the numbers he's putting up.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: It's incredible the year he's having. But you look at
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: that Champions League final, the guy was a mess in
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the back for us, like leaving people running in freely
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in the back door, tap ins, all this stuff, like
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it was just schoolyard play from there. And we don't
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: have a legitimate goalkeeper. We have the worst goalkeeper in
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the league statistically, Like if we had anybody from the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: top four, which are like Manyan, Carneseki, Spilar and I
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: think Gorilla were the top four. If I'm not I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: could be wrong about Kapila, but definitely those three. If
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: we had any one of those, we're up by fifteen
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: seventeen points right now in the league, it would have
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: been you know, done and dusted if we had a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: legitimate goalkeeper.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: He's a big missed, a big hole for us.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: And whenever one of our strikers is playing well, the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: other ones are not and it just makes it hard
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for us. So I've been of the mindset for I
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: think two years now that I think that a squad refresh,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: not a whole like revolution needs to be done. But
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I think you really need to like move out some guys,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and it may be some tough decisions. I don't know
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: who I would pick. I'm not gonna throw names out
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: because I don't want people. The amount of attacks I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: get in my mentions is insane over players I want
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: out or players I'm.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Not a fan of.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But it wouldn't be the worst thing if you move
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: on from a couple of guys and bring in a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: few different pieces that need to you know, whether it
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is I got like a Palestra or I got in
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a seki, you know, to refresh and bring in some
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: new blood and people who may have a different level
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of hunger. Like look at the core right, which are
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Dimarico Bastoni, Barella Lotao and probably hot Gan would be
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the five guys who.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: Have been there the longest.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: They've won everything they except for the Champions League. They've
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: won everything there is to win at INDRE. What more
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: do you have to prove? Really like, are they kind
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: of like tired of doing the same things and competing
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: for the same trophies? And you know, maybe I think
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that if we had won the UCL last year. Obviously
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: we got embarrassed by PSG, but I think a lot
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: of those guys would have wanted to maybe go face
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: another challenge or try something different.
• 20:55
  Speaker 8: But yeah, it'll be.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: It's a tough thing because oak Tree doesn't seem very
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: motivated to improve the squad. So is it are people
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: going to have to be on the way out to bring.
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: New people in? That remains to be seen.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: And are some of these guys gonna want to force
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: their way to to new challenges and then kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: like run its course Because there's rumors Durdam, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: may want to test at the EPL. Dumfries has changed
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: agents so many times. He looks to be on the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: way out, you know, and there's interest on in BOSTONI
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: We'll see if that ends up being something, you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is nice that some of these guys
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: seem to be loyal to wanted to stay at at
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: inint dead, whether it's you know, Banella never wants to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to entertain anything.
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: Latado either, But at that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Point, like I'm amuture, you're helping versus hurting, you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Know, exactly exactly, so it's you know, it's it. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: would be okay with it, because at the end of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the day, when you know, like we won the trouble
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: in twenty ten, some of my favorite players left after
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: that the club, the club remains like players are not
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: all kind of stay. And some people want to hang
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: on to Turam because you know, he gets along well
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: with Lotado, Okay, but if he's not performing, what's the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: point of hanging on to him. If you're able to
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: sell him for let's say, fit the sixty million in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the summer and bringing some young, motivated kids that could
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you know, reignite some some passion in this squad, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: if you hang on, like I want hawk On to leave,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna come out and say it. I think you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it's time for him to go. Whether it's to you know, Gas,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: he had a good flirting session with them in the summer,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: his father putting pictures of him up and in a
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: ga I you know, okay, cool, you want to leave,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: go like, I don't want to keep you Bavard. Time
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to move on from him, you know, a chad to
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: be and Mickey Toddy and please like get those old
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: corpses off my club and and let's move on and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you know, bringing some some youth, bringing some young you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: talented players, like I think Italian football also needs to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to recognize. And I'm sorry, like I'm like monologuing here.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It's I'm not trying to take over your guy squad, true,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but a problem I have. And it's not just with
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in there, like I mean, you see it at you
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: of it, you see it at Milan. Like we're we're
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: kind of at a point where this isn't the nineteen
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: nineties anymore.
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: We're not the top league.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: We're not able to go and buy you know, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: mean the hot or the Mbapez or whoever is the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: best player in the world at the Jamal or whatever.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You have to look at young players, whether it is
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in Italy or it's outside of Italy. You need to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: look at the next best thing, the next thing that's
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: coming up, and be willing to invest in that, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: also be patient in investing in that, and allow those
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: guys to grow develop. You know, like in Deistier complaining
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: about Petar Sucic, I'm one of his biggest fans. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I don't see the same things that they see. You
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: could say I have blinders on, but like when I
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: see a player who has technical ability, passing range, a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: motor like like Marcello Broseovich who could run for days,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: he's also one of the guys who could.
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: He's like basically has iron lungs.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But you're complaining because he doesn't take a shot from
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: outside the box, or you know, he overshoots a pass
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and you want like you wanted to give up, or
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's Mickey Dodi and back out there
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the kids twenty one years old, like, give give him time.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He's playing it. He came from Dina Mozagaev. It's not
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: like he came from Real Madrid, you know, like he
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: came from a small club. Yes he has ucl experience,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but allow these guys to develop. And I want as
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: a league for us to start doing better with our
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: youth and not just like you know, having a U
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: twenty three or whatever, but like giving these guys an
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: opportunity to grow. Like you guys, at you it you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: had Savona right. I don't know why he was seld
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: if it was just strictly a financial reason, but that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a young player that could have developed into something pretty
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: good and and been like maybe a core piece at
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the club with a yieldiz you know, I mean, Milan,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you guys gave up on CDK a little too fast,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Like I think that's a Paoli issue more so than
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the club. But if you had a manager who was
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a little patient or willing to work with him and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: help him develop, who knows what you could have had
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: with that with that guy, And then you know, you
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: could have had him staying around solid Maker's one on
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a few loans. He hasn't really looked that great this year,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: but on the loans he looked pretty decent, like much.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: Better than I would have thought.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's good that you've kept him,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But I give Kivu credit because he's allowed Pio to develop,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: which I think has been huge. It helps that he
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: had him at the Metasie as well, so he was,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: he has a familiarity with him. He's done pretty well
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: with with with Bonnie. You know suits, it's getting his
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: minutes and now kind of fixing Andy dyu F and
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Luis n Peak a little bit. I think that's good,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: but we need to just figure out ways to like
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: find that next best thing before they pop off. Like
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, give hats off to Como with with Nico Pause, right,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: like I saw him, well, I mean, yeah, he's gonna
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: go well, he's gonna be bought back now, Okay, so they.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: Own him, but he's really Actually the.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: RAL has a buy back clause, so they're they're going
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to activate the buy back.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, like Real is buying it back.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, still making money.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: But they brought but they brought him in right, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: they they allowed him to flourish and grow and and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean we saw like little glimpses of
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: him with the Champions League with with Nico Pause, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: now like he's kind of developed because of the SETI Ah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I want us in there to be then the team
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: that gets the next Nico Pause, not in like a
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: buy back option, but like you get that young guy
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: who then you're able to sell off you know for
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: sixty five seventy million or something like that, and you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: develop these young guys a little bit. Yes, it's maybe
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not good for long term, but I think in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: short term it gives you a little bit of money
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: in that because obviously we seem to be all struggling financially.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's just inc that who have that issue.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But you're able to develop these guys still be competitive,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: not just in the league but in Europe because you
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: have top talent coming into the club. And yeah, I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: mean it'll just be uh something that I wish would happen,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: but you know, INTEEDISTI want to win now and forever.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: But then when we go like last season trophy list,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: they want, you know, ready stuff now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: So it's like you can't have it both ways.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, guys like you either need to be a little
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: patient with the process or you just buy guys who
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: are in their late thirties, you know, bringing our you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a Kevin de Bruyne and no offense and like, you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: hope that he's able to keep it together for a
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: little bit for a couple of years and then you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: off to the next you know, senior guy like a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Robert Lewandowski now, you know whatever.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: So but that's what it is because I feel like
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of the top teams in the city are
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: between the struggle of either you know, trying to push
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: for a schooldetto versus like, okay, let's plan for the future,
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: and it's it's like they're free to take the risk
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: of like playing these kids. Yeah, like these kids exist
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: in the system. Mourinho showed that for example, like Roma,
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: you know, like they like like Zelevsky for example, was
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: a product at the Roma Academy and Morinho gave him
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: the shot to give him the time to play if
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: there was another player that I kind of call off
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: the top of my head, but essentially like he started
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: that movement for them. And it's just as if teams
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: are like they're constantly fighting for the top four, you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: like Roma in this case is not a team that's
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: constantly fighting for the top four, but that's one of
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: their goals. But you know, like it's those teams that
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: are willing to take the risks with these kids, whereas
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: the big three of ceti A don't want to play
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: the kids they just care about, you know, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: getting to the title. It's like, I understand you all
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: in competition with each other, but Italian SoC suffered for
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: for a long time, and this is part of the
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: reason why it is because no team is willing to
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: just bite the bullet and you know what, maybe this
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: game against Kremones, we're gonna play half of our rosters,
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: like academy prospects or something, just to give the kids
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: a shot, just to see like how they how can
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: they handle playing against men.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's it's.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Still a sport and you want to win.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So if those kids aren't giving you a chance to win,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like you can't go into that game against Criminations and say, oh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it's only criminazing, because then Criminations is gonna go out.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: And beat you.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Look look good, what's happened? Like UVEA look at any
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: drop points ahead. Look the game against Lecha in January.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think that kind of almost turned their season round
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: in a bad way when they had when they had
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: those drop points against Lecha. So it's a fine line, like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you know, on one hand, you want to have young
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: players that could actually produce. You know, you're not a
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: charity you don't want to have uh, young players just
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because they're young. But at the same time, you also
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: need to have a proper way to develop young players.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's probably not the best idea to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: buy a player when he's nineteen twenty twenty one years old,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: send him out on loan.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: This and that, you know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: For sure having having teams like obviously we know there's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of teams.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I know you've a Milan.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if inter has the youth team in
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the in the third division in the city.
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah we do. Yeah, this is our first year having it,
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: so okay.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: For me, I do think that actually helps. I look,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You've has had success with that. I think yielders has
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: been their best product. Obviously, once the players come up
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and play with the senior team, it's a different story.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Look at a guy like.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Like Savona or even Samuel, Oh my god, I forget
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: his name. You've player Ambula, I have to look it
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: up again. He had some success coming up with Youve,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but right away they sell him, you know. So it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just it's a fine line, like you need to have
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a good development system, like these guys aren't gonna get
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: good when they reach the senior team, right, they need
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to be good before then, So it's a matter of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: investing in the youth systems before and then by the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: time they get to eighteen nineteen years old. Yeah, play them,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: but they also need to be good. Like I said,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you can be a charity. You know, you can't play.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not like it's not like FIFA career
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: mode that you play them and they get points and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you could go and develop their traits, you know, like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: maybe worse today, I don't know for sure, but like
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you can you can still do a healthy balance of
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the veteran presence with two or three young guys that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you're able to integrate, like Inter did it in in
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: with with with Kamata. They let him play, they play,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: let Mateokki play, and I forget who the third one was.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: Now I don't think.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Bulbo actually played, but Kamate and Koki played as the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: right wing back and the left wing back.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: Had an assist on a Bony goal.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Awesome, that's great for us, right, But like then boom
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: back to back to the you know, the youth side,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the U twenty three side, and it's like, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: we have what's his name Aquin san Meido now playing
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: for Pisa. You know we have him onlone there. He's
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: doing pretty well. He could be, you know, a midfielder
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: for the future for us. There, perfect example we I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this summer. I got really upset because we sold Zalewski
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: to Atalanta, which I thought was stupid because of his
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: tactical flexibility. You could pla him on the left, he
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: could play on the right, you could playim as a mezzala.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: He played for Inzagia a couple of games there and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I thought he did very well in that role. You
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: sold him for a quick what was it, four million
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: dollar profit? Like you literally like paid paid Roma the
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: seven million that you had to pay for him, and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: then flipped him to Atlanta for eleven for what And
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: then you went and bought a wing back for twenty
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: five million, Like that's just stupid business in my opinion,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you did that. You had Alexander Stankovic who is killing
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it now. Granted he's playing regularly for Club Bruges in
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the Belgian League, so we have to activate the bye
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: black clause for him. That's that looks like it's a
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: done deal for this summer. But like you, you you
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: had a guy pretty much ready made to kind of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: fill in for whether you want him as a agista
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: or mezzala role where he could have, you know, filled
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: in for for he Chelannogo who's been hurt now for
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: what feels like a month and a half. Could have
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: had a ready made player there, and then what did
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: you do? You ended up panic buying Andy Do towards
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the end of the Mercato for another twenty three million.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So it's like instead of selling a kid for no
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: reason you could, I mean you could have loaned them,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: but you sold them with a buy back option, which
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: is gonna be twenty three million in itself, so really
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be forty six million out the door, it like.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And instead of like having these these players go, you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: could have kept Zalewski, kept Stankovic and then you would
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: have had forty forty what is the twenty five forty
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: eight million to go invest in something else?
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: And what do we need?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: We need a center, center back, a right wing back
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and a goalkeeper and we didn't fill any of those holes,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like what are we?
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: What are we doing?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Like Italian teams are so poorly managed and then we
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: we we all go, you know with the high hopes
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: of of of of deep runs in the Champions League,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: whether it is you know, Interio and Milan whatever, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: we all fall flat on our faces to these clubs
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: that we don't even know if they're gonna exist in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: five years. No offense. But like you know, kata Bag
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: is beating teams in in well, not in from Sea,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: but they're beating teams in the Champions League. Right, So
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it's like, what are what are we doing wrong? Why
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: are we all stuck in this antiquated system that prevents
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: youth from developing properly? You look at it, how we
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: haven't been able to qualify for the chance the World
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Cup now into two possibly a third rendition. Mm hmm,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: we're not We're just not developing players, right, we aren't
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: by any means. Some of our best young talent now right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: are all going to the e p L, the the Bundesliga.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at Inacio, the young players pretty
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: much has Yeah, all the young guys went to Arsenal,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Like why why are why are they going to.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: Redford?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: You know, destin Udo G's over at Tautenham. What are
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: we what are we doing? We're not giving these guys
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a possible an opportunity here in Italy that they decide
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: all right, I gotta go seek opportunities elsewhere to you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: as a teenager to go play. I mean destiny ology
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: was I think twenty when he went. But regardless, like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: why are we unable to keep talent here? Like, you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: know how annoying it was that like not one of
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: our three big club or even you're like Johnny, I mean,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: you got what six different teams that you support, so
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: it could have been any one of those and.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: He fucking missed on all of them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Jesus correct, Cala Fiori doesn't even doesn't even end up
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: at any of our clubs. We let a talent like
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: that leave? Yeah, you know, like it just it drives
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: me insane.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: I also think I also think, like just to bounce
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: off to everybody's points here on this topic, I mean,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I also think that the big clubs are just the
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: clubs in Italy in general.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: They're there, they're so.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Behind the eight ball financially that they can't make these risks.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: They can't.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: We want them to make these risks, but financially it
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: doesn't make sense. And listen, do I like the moneyball
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: aspect of of Milan or or of some of these teams. No,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: not always like just fucking bite the bully, go buy
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: who you need to go buy, and let's call it
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: a day and let's roll with that. But again, these
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: teams can't afford they want there, they're stuck in between.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: We want to win now because that's what our history says,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: but we're restricted financially, so we can't do that. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: we're in this limbo land of well, you know what,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: We're gonna be somewhat competitive. We're gonna, you know, put
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: these little band aid solutions on. We're gonna buy this,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: We're gonna buy that. And yeah, let's maybe maybe we'll
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: get one, uh you know, youth player, uh preferably Italian
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: on on on the roster. If not someone that is young,
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: that that's gonna that's gonna perform at somewhat of a
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: capable level to be in the starting eleven. And we're
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: gonna continue rolling like this. But I think that's the
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: biggest or one of the bigger factors in all this
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: conversation that we're having is if And again I don't
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: like it, but it is the money. It's it's a
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: financial factor like these clubs. You know, you said perfectly before.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Jamaco, it's not nineteen ninety anymore.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: You know, Sadia is not what Seria used to be.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: You know, Ronaldo phenomenal is not coming to Seria anymore.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Those types of players are not coming Zi Dan's you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: all these all these all these great players right there,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: they're not coming to Seria anymore. Maradona, he's not cut.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: He's not leaving Barcelona to come to Seria anymore. You know, Yama,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: he's not going to leave Barcelona to come play for
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: for Floma, right, He's not going to do that. And again,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: you know, we can sit here and have a conversation
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: for days on end, but you know, I think the
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: money factors is quite a big factor in all this,
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: and it's tough. You have to play this balance in
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: that because a team like Milan, a team like Inter,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: a team like Juve, the big three, right, they they
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: want to win and they haven't sniffed we're talking about
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: European wise, like they haven't sniffed, sniffed glory in the
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Champions League in forever, right, we said it last week
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Inter was the last team to do it, right and ten.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: So you know, it's we're stuck in between this, like
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I said that the rock and a hard place. And again, listen,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: I think they're they're like anything else in life, there
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: has to be a balance. Unfortunately, I don't think we're
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: as the league. I don't think the clubs are are
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: are you know, willing to accept that we have to
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: have that balance and having some youth and having some experience.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: But because of.
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: Just the the just the incredible pressure that there is
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: behind them to to win, right, like we need to win,
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: like we this this Champions of the campaign, you know
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: bar at t wanted because they made you know, the
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: great comeback that they did against Dorman today, Like.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: This doesn't do anything for for our you know, our
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: well being of our league, Like it does like way
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: more damage than we than we really think. So again
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: it's it's a tough one. I think, you know, I
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: think that teams should give youth chances. You know, I'm
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: honestly shocked. You know, Bartisaki is doing somewhat good for
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: for Melan, like it's a youth product product for Milan.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: You know, he's able to to get into the starting lamp.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I guess it helps when you sell your your your
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I guess better option at the time, tail or Nandez right,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: and you let and walk. But for for a guy
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: like Bartisaki to to flourish, But I mean, I don't know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: I think the bigger clubs in Sidia are not willing
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: to to.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: To have these youngsters play.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: And we're we're depending on the middle of the pack
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: to end of the pack of Sidia to really make
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: these you know, young players flourish and hopefully that you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: one of the Big three or Big five, big seven,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: whatever you want to say, is going to snag these
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: players and then you know, bring them onto the international stage.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: But again, I think we're far away from that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: And listen, at the end of the day, it's as
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: much as we don't want to admit it, guys, it
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: is a business and and you know, this is this
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: is the way it goes. And I'm not a fan
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: of it, but it is. It is the world we're
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: living in.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: See.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: But like to kind of counter what you said, like,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: all right, yeah, we have to worry about the finances
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and then we can't afford to take risks and miss
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: But like I'm just looking at Inden, right, Luis Adrika
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: right now, probably a miss. That's twenty five million, Yeah, Andy,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: do you probably a miss as well? Twenty three million.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: We spent thirty million on Benjamin Bavard where is he
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: right now? On loan at Marseille, because you know, whatever
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: supposed it was a dust up between him and Latadoo
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't like his lack of commitment to the team, which
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. You're like, all right, you basically
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: just flush thirty million down the drain right there with him,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you know. And our best signings truthfully have been Zielinsky
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: on a free hot Kin on a free tut I'm
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: on a free you know. I think we spent two
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: or three million on Jon Sommer, who was fantastic last year.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: This year he's been a complete black hole. So we've
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: taken risks on players, and instead of going and getting
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a good you know, whether you know, or keeping a Zelevski,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: we we decided to waste money on another guy who
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: turns out to not really be working out or fitting
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: into the system.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: And a lot of people are wishing we hadn't done that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: We didn't want to come up and pay what Atalanta
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: was asking for for lookman, and he ends up going
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to Electico Madrid and look at the impact he's having there.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: It's so like for a club that's supposedly trying to
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: avoid risk, we've taken risks and we've missed on everything.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I haven't even gone to touch like Joaquin Horea, which
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: was another waste of thirty million, Robin Gozens was a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: waste of twenty five million. Like, we haven't gotten back
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: what we invested in these players, and I think we've
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: probably like a net negative. If you look at all
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: transfers in and out in the last five years, it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: it's so why why bother doing that when you could
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: try to develop some of these young guys, bring them
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: up and hey, if they don't work out, it didn't
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: cost you anything. Really, you know, you could afford to
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: not maybe go where your scip Whereas now there's a room,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you know, in the summer where they're talking about I mean,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: every team in Italy now is wants Poleesta from from Atalanta.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a bidding war probably for him.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: But thank goodness, was you know in a situation where
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they can let a kid, you know, develop and play,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: And now he looks like he's the best right wing back,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and there's calls for him to be the starter for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the national team now, you know, coming up in the playoffs.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: So it's it is a tough situation where you kind
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: of have to choose your battles and are we gonna
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: be willing to invest in this one or or spend
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: money here on a on a player like a you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: a Jashari instead of maybe developing somebody from our own
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: program whatever. And Jasharis look like, you know, a player
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: who seems to have a lot of.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: He's young, like you.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: You you bring in, you brought in like just to
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: bounce off to what you just said. You know, Uh, Zelenski,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: hot Gun, these freeze they're how old? They're thirty plus?
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: They're older, Yeah, for sure.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Thirty they're thirty plus.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: So again, you know, and that way we say we
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: can't afford to go buy players, we'll.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Do and I and I agree, but I find I
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: find the way the Italians think, in my head out least,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: is that they're gonna saying, listen.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: We're gonna go after, We're gonna we're gonna bring.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: In Zelensky and hot Gun for a free because it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: gonna it's for them. They see that as more quality
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: as the fucking nineteen twenty twenty one year old Stankovic
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: that you named. I don't know how old he is
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: or whoever you want to name m that's in your
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: in your in your youth. And uh, you know, hakun
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Is is thirty plus.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: He's gonna put We know his quality.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: He's gonna produce and he's gonna he's gonna have this
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: buffer era of bringing us along. But again I don't
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: do what we agree with that mentality, no, but that
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: that's that's just what how they think. And as long
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: as they think that way, and that's for all our clubs,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: not even not just inter it because we said it,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: for all our clubs.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: It's the same story.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: As long as the Italians that are or whoever's leaving
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: these clubs think that way, we're never gonna change.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: We're never gonna change.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I think my big issue is like when we've taken
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the risks on like a deal for a a Rique
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that's like I said, forty eight million. Yeah, Alanta was
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: asking forty million for lookman, but we wouldn't pay the
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: forty million had we kept Zalevski, had we kept stock
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: and not signed those two players. Now you have Lookman,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: who I think would have fit this team better, especially
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: since Kibu supposedly wanted to switch to a UH three
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: four two one, And now you could have had Lookman
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and Turam supporting LaTaO and it could have been a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: whole different attack and and and and way of play,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: which is off the bench, off the bench and interchanging
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: there for sure. And then you still have Zeleski in Stankovic,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So it's like, cool, we took risks on players who
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: weren't really a need and we let out players leave
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: who are now like, I mean, Zeleski has been blossoming
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: and I think he's been extremely good for.
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: Atalanta well today.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Stankovic's you know, looked like an absolute world
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: beater for for Club Bruises and have been dominating the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Champions League. So it's like, I just don't get the mentality.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I don't get the is there any foresight or we
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: just planning for this season and then we're like we're
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: like kicking the can down the road repeatedly at Inte,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: like we still haven't fixed our goalie situation. We brought
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in Jose at Martinez last year, I thought he was
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: ready to be the starter. Apparently he isn't because he
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't get an opportunity. And he had one bad game
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: which was recent in the in the and now people
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: are like, all right, we're done with him. Now we're
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: gonna go for Vicati, who I think is is a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: complete downgrade, to be honest.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: And downgrade from from from yes.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Like well not from Martinez, but I think like from
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: what you could potentially get to bring in.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: He's already going to be hitting thirty soon.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: And you know, like I would rather go for a
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: card in a Seci even though it looks like you
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: is probably gonna beat us to that that signing. But
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: we're just we're going to bring in a goalkeeper who
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I think is not going to be able to handle
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the pressure and in there he couldn't even handle it
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a Tottenham.
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: What's he gonna do with in the you know?
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: There there you go like you just like you said,
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: you know, one bad game from Martinez, who's younger than Sommer.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know the age. I forget the age gap.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: He's twenty six, so he's like what eleven years younger,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: eleven years twelve years Sommers much so that much older.
• 44:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's like thirty seven, thirty seven now yeah, but.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: There you go, right, eleven years the age cap.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: The younger guy has one slip up, which you know,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: shoot the guy. He can't, he can't fuck up like
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: a criminal offense. And you know he's he's on the
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: he's on the bench. Why because he has the lesser name,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: he has the lesser experience he has.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: You know, we see Sommer, when.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: You see Joseph Martinez, it doesn't it doesn't bring anything
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: for for people. But you see on Sommer it shows
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: a lot. It's it tells people a lot. But again
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: again the mentality is, listen, we we know how Italians are.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: We all come from that, from that cut of cloth, right,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: so we know how stubborn they can be. But and
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: I and I'll stick with this as long as we
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: as a nation think that way in our league, it's
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: going to take a lot for us to change. And
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: again I'm still sticking to the money factor because there
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: there is that included. And we're not where we want
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: to be financially on all our clubs.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: We don't. We're not. We're just not. It's it's it's
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that's a fact.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Like you know, it takes it takes you know, uh,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: former legends to kind of bring players to clubs like
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: I remember when Maldini was in charge, Like people were
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: picking up the phone and maybe have saying, oh, fuck,
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: you know what I want to come to me on
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: because it's Maldini calling.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: But if that's not there anymore, what's the real what's.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: What's the uh, what's the the benefit.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Of coming there is? You know, there's not much. So
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a tough situation, honestly on all fronts.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Got gotta say, though, this is a lot I wouldn't
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: say complaining, but a lot for a team that's ten
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: points up in above and.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: First it's as if they're not going to win the
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: school that though.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: My share some success with the rest of us represented
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: by listen, I have one team.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: There's one team in Jenny. How many are you at now?
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: Well about five million?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: So all these teams and then just beating them up.
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: Hey, we're blessed, all right?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: What I was gonna ask, like, all things considered, I mean,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: easily a very successful city season. You know, it will
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: take a monumental collapse for them to lose at this
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: point with twelve games left, it's what I think fourteen
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: or fifteen on beats and in City Ah, it's like
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong there. It just seems like it's it's, you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the Champions League.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: But also now we have.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Italian coming up against Como, not an easy challenge. Where
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: do you rank winning the coal in terms of importance?
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I mean it would be the tenth Copa Italia, so
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: get us a silver star, So I think it's kind
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of important up there. I think that's pretty cool if
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: you could add that to the kit next season, you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: you could have the Coop Italia badge and the silver Star.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: And then if you're able to get that twenty first
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: school that though, that's that's awesome too. You you know,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: you get a nice little gap between you and Milan two.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: So I think that's always a good thing at least
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: in that regard. So, I mean, I think now it's
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: it's massively important for Key to get at domestic double.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I think that that would alleviate a lot of the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: hate and pressure that he gets from from the fan base.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And like you said, it would take a monumental collapse,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: which not having Lotao for the next couple of months.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: That that that is a tough.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: One, even though we should do well in the league
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: and we should be able to handle the other, you know,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: at least the clubs that we should do well against,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: whether it's you know, the Janoas and and I forget
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: who else comes. I know it's the Derby after that,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I'd have to look up the schedule to
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: see who else. But you know, theoretically we should still
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: be able to maintain I would say at least even
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: if we lose to Milan, I would say at least
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: a six seven point gap regardless, you know, for between
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: first and second, even though and we have fourteen points
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: on a Napoli and third. So as long as we're
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: able to keep that till Latato comes.
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: Back, I mean, that's that's great.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But I would like to get that that Kopaitalia, you know,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: it would be a nice to have that. That we
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: got nothing last year, so like two trophies would be
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: you know, a big improvement in my opinion.
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: You know, everyone made.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: A big deal that a Zagi's going for all three.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Well he got nothing, you know, so it's like any
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: trophy is going to be be welcome. That's why we play, right.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: We want our clubs all want to win trophies, whether
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: it's you know, domest internationally, we want to get trophies
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: in the cupboard. And you know, I would definitely would
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: like to close the gap with you by any means.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so it's it's definitely doable. But I guess, yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Copali would be pretty high up for me. I think
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: it's like literally like one B to the school that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: they'll be in one A.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, yeah, that's that's a that's a no brainer.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we spoke to you know before
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: this season, Jamarco, but it was like because I wanted
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: to ask you earlier, like what was you like your
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: your realistic expectations for for this season with the Interact
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: because I don't remember if we spoke to you.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: If if I did, sorry you can you can bring
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: it up again.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't remember who I talked to you about.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I know I brought up on on on my podcast
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: for sure, Yeah, like.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Was this is kind of where you were envisioning things
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: or was this no nowhere near or.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, I had no expectations to be honest, I
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: said that I thought, because of the roster that we
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: were bringing back for this season, I thought second place
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: would be the case. I thought that Napoli would still
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: be able.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: To win the league.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: To be honest, you know, as much as I'm not
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: really a fan of Conte, I do understand what he
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: is able to do in the league and when he's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: able to focus on one thing, how he is able
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: to perform. Unfortunately, you gout like Napoli had a bunch
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: of injuries, so it does make it hard to remain
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: competitive and stuff and other people underperforming, which made it
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I think obviously easier for for Intet to be able
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to to do what they've done. And and where in
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Zagie struggled against you know, the bottom half of the table,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Kivu has made it a point to not lose any
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: of those games, Like we've gotten maximum points from every
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: single lower division team exceptably who did beat us in
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the second game of the season. But yeah, I still
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: give him a break because he was just getting used
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: to you know everything here and but you know, all
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: our losses or the other three losses are against you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Jove Milan and Andnopoly, So it's like it's not like
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you lost to you know, the employees and the Sasuolos
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: that we used to use lose to actually with with Anzagi.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I think people forget that. Like you know, when we
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: we bottle the league to Milan, we had lost to
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Saswallow multiple times. We had lost to uh Genoa as well,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: like anxiety. I mean, Kibu hasn't done that this season.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: And then you're gonna be the deciding factor this year.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: And because for me on being in second, that's where
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: we fell right like as we we dropped those points
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: against those quour unquote weaker opposition, you know, the criminals
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: is the pieces the paramas you pick up one point
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: against Parama, like you're not gonna go far right, and
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: you know, credit to Inter for for picking up those points,
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: but I think that'll be the deciding factor or will
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: We're not done yet, but you know at the end
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: of when we come back and speak about this in
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: April May whatever, like we're gonna say, well, that was
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: the one of, if not the deciding factor, of why
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Inter won the league because you have to pick up
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: those points.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: You have to like I mean, listen, INDISTI want to
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: complain that you know Kibu hasn't won the big games. Well,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: we've beaten Roma, you know that we have. We we
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: were able to get a draw. We obviously we beat
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: you very recently in a controversial game. We don't have
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: to get into that, but you know, we did get
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: three points there, you know, So I don't know what
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you're expecting. Like two years ago when he Zagi, we
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: didn't win any of those games and we still lost
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the league by just one point, you know, like if
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: he if he picks up points there. You look at
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: the end of the season last season, we drew against Genoa,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: we drew against Rama, we drew against Lazio. We get
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: a maximum points in any of those games, we win
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: the schoolreeto. So it's like those little things like yeah,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: you know what in that Eisti's mind, Jenna is a formality.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Hod No offense is a formality. Lazio always a formality,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: and we weren't able to do it, you know.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: But that's how you really feel about it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: I'm just I'm sorry, like.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: And that's but just listen, I didn't think like that,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm I know what INSTI were saying. Like, so
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, we shouldn't have been losing. We
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have been dropping the point what we did? We did,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like, and everybody liked to shielding Zagie. They
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: refuse to give him criticism, but then Kibu comes in
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: and it's like anytime he dropped.
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: Points, boom hammering him down.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, let's keep it a buck though,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Like it's why why are we not treating Kiebu with
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: the same level of respect that we were keep treating Zagie?
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: It just made no sense to me.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: And now that Kibu is getting maximum points against the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: teams that in zagu would typically drop points. Again, No,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: everybody's quiet, everybody, you know, sitting on their hands and
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: not saying a word. So it's it's kind of frustrating
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: from a fan standpoint, and I feel like sometimes I
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: have to like bite my tongue because like I feel
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: like I always want to say something to everybody on Twitter,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: but I need to know to like get off that
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: app at times, which I still struggle with.
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's like, you know, bro, like what what what?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: We're ten points up and you're still complaining about Kibu
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: as if he's like the worst manager in world football.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me, what would happen if
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: we were where I thought we would finish. Second, what
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: happened if we were ten points back right now? Like,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: would we would would would they be trying to get
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: them fired or something? I have no idea, so sure,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it's it's just crazy to me.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Imagine you had tudor I Bro.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you like I give you and people
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: people wanted to yagle Mata.
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: Over all as if fuck Bro, It's insanity.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, although although it was nice to troll Nima for
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit when when was winning a Bologna and
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Anxiety was struggling and he did.
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: We were kind of messing with him for a little bit,
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: But that's all funny games, Johnny.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Do you have any other questions that I do have
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: one more, but but yeah I have, I.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Have if anything, also, I feel Johnny, I don't know
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: if you don't.
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: Well, my question would be just to tie up from
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: from before. Do you honestly believe Bastoni is moved at
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: some point this summer? Like do you think bas Tony
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: gets like bla seems like it's the guy's gonna be
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: right into the ground, so it's gonna be hard.
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think better that is gonna go anywhere.
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: I feel like, yes, but I feel like is a
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: bit more of a guarantee to leave this summer.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like, okay, does I guess that doesn't even matter,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, But like.
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: I feel like, I don't know, because I feel like
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: it's if it's his time has coming to an end,
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: would enter But BOSTONI do you think he's a player
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: that inter looks at options in terms of especially with
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: recent like by the way I was on his side,
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: I thought it was fucking stupid that he had to
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: go out to the media and apologize about it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: I thought so too, Like I'm like, yeah, yo, crazy crazy,
• 55:25
  Speaker 10: Like don't get me.
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: Wrong, I don't.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with the way he reacted, especially because
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: like look, I mean, I don't know. We haven't talked
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: about it, Nicholas, but like I do, I said in
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: an inter group chat, Yo, we got lucky there, Like
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: he could have gone the other way where he got
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: a yellow for simulation and then that's a second yellow
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: red Like we got lucky. Like yeah, I'm I'm I'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: happy that we got the call in our favor in
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: that instance.
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to pretend that I wasn't.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: But the way he reacted and got up and just
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: celebrated like he just like scored a massive goal or something,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I was like not a fan. And I thought that
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: was part of the reason that he got substituted at
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: halftime was because of that. Kibu being a former center back,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I think he knows that there's a little one level
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: of respect that you should show your opponent, no matter
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: who it is, and and he kind of like alluded
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: to that in his postgame interview, So I think there
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of the respecting. And then also
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: he did say like he was worried that like Lapana
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: would see that he made the mistake and that it
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: would he would be looking for any opportunity to give
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: the second yellow Robustoni to equalize things. So I think that,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: you know, like it was stupid that he had to
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: go and apologize and and and all that, like, bro,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: what are we doing here, Like as if other teams
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: haven't had divers or instant like no offense. You guys
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: had the OTT at Milan and and nobody said anything.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: He never had apologize for anything. BA The guy looks
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: like he gets hit by a sniper almost every time
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: he's on on the pitch, and you.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Know what, I know he's your boy about to I
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: know he's your boy, but.
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: A lot of times like he wouldn't.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Like there's times where like, yeah, even even yesterday, like
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: when he when he they tried to like sell penalty.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, like we were getting enough it, Like
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I don't to be making it worse. But I will say, like,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know, if you saw the game, there was
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: an instance though in the first not the one where
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: that it hit his under his arm and like like
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: his upper chest here, but there was another like instance
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: where it should have been a handball that was called
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: no handball was called there. Yeah, it was like, I
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: don't know, it could have changed the game as well
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: if we got that early penalty. But whatever, neither here
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: nor there, we didn't deserve to win to begin.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: With, Bastoni is getting sold or no.
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: If I had if.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I had to pick, to be honest, if I had
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the pick between Lotao Brelan BOSTONI, who do I think
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: has the most realistic chance of being moved? I think
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: it's BOSTONI. There is rumor that Barcelona is interested in
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: bringing him in like that. They are apparently in love
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: with him. They think that he's the perfect guy to
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: play alongside Gubarci. I know, I know what's it. Pep
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Guardiola has always been a big fan of BOSTONI so
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: who knows if if an offer comes in, the only
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: thing is like, does BOSTONI want to leave? I don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: think so. There's never been any inclination or anything like that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: He that he's interested in going anywhere LOTAO. I think
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it's tough because he's the captain, right, so it's like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: are you really going to sell your captain again? After
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: you did with Ecadity. Granted that was under different circumstances.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: The guy was you know, his wife was controlling him
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: and it was a whole like ordeal and drama stuff
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: at the club.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: What's the club? Was that different?
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: Was?
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and you get you get sixty million for e
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: car that you take that to the bank and you
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: run so you check it right away. But yeah, Like so,
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: I mean, do I want BOSTONI sold?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: No? Do I think out of all the three, I
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: think that's the most realistic one.
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: Probably, Like, I mean, you would.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: Probably bring you one of the Probably I don't know
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: about the most, but probably Lotaro will probably bring you
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: the most.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, Like I mean, listen, they're saying like
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: seventy eighty million for Bustoni, like if he if if
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Barcelona comes with an offer, how like we as Italian clubs, Seriously,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: how do we say, know the seventy or eighty million
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: for a center back?
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: That's there?
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: You go? That goes back to my point, right, like
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: where where we need that money?
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: We we do, we do, But like there's also like
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: young talent out there in the SETI that you can
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: go get. Like I mean, granted Scalveny can't stay healthy,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: but like, yeah, that's a great young center back that
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I think you can like go reinvest in if you
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: decide to, or you could use that to go get
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: you know, two different players, you know. Like so it's uh,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think he'll go honestly, like, but I think
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: out of all the three, I think he's the most
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: realistic and probably gets you the best return because he's
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: if I'm not yeah, he's the youngest of the three.
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: So it's like yeah, yeah.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Plus plus you I don't like you guys paid the
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: was it the.
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Least for him probably for or what or was it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Like interpaid three intergar they paid like what.
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, he was thirty eight million, was it?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the most least the least of the three was
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I think there was twenty five million something like that.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, but anyways, it's still good in the roa.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, uh, Nick, I don't know you had your question.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: I had another question that was kind.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Of just all the way to the end because it's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: not about.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, Europe, Okay, No, I just.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: I know, like again I don't really wanted to bring
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: it up and whatever, but you know, just because I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: kind of may I have to get this off my
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: chest because you know, the melon game on the weekend
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: right though, with this with the var right, but uh,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: you know what, like what what was your take on
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: just like the whole like this whole like var situation,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: this whole officiating in Italy because like.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: We saw the incident, the incident, the the incident.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: In obviously the derbidi Dalia, right, you know, we spoke
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: about it a bit there, and we spoke about it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: last week, you know, the Bostonian and the Kololu all that,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: and again like we kind of saw not the same thing.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: But you know in the Melon Parmer game, right, you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: goal call back with the var which I think is
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: a is a foul on if you want to say
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: it's on a foul on man or a foul on,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Buttsaka you can, in my opinion, you can pick your
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: whatever one you want.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: It's a foul on.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: One of them, in my opinion, gets called back reversed
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: by Var and Big.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Earlier in the.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: Game, Luffi's cheek gets his little teeth taken out and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: he has like fucking a jaw line fracture, and they
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: and they protect the goalie there and call it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: A foul on on on on.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: Lefty's cheek and again no var to to kind of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: you know, save that. But what's what's been your kind
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: of just your opinion on that, especially in Italy, because
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: we don't get this ship. We don't get away with
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: this ship in Europe.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Uh, this this this.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Comedy that with this absolute cinema right that we get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: away with in Italy, we don't get away with it
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: in Europe.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: So just your just your take.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: I just want to hear your opinion because I know
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: you're you're obviously knowledgeable and not only into but just
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: the leak in general.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's it's getting
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: ridiculous what's going on in the league. I know people
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: want to like cry them out out the league and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: think that we somehow control the referees. I wish we
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: would never lose a game if if we had that
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: level of power. But it's it's it's embarrassing. It's I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: think it's a black guy in the league. I think
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: for people who are maybe just getting into Seia and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: they see that and they see a week in and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: week out, it may turn them off from wanting to watch.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: Is yo, it's a joke, Like you know, I mean.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: How how that call? Let's go to the interview of
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: a game? How that call you can't have var intervene
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: for like an error like that is crazy?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: To me?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: It is great, Like I don't think that that call
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: decided the game by any means, because honestly, in my opinion,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I thought we played better against eleven than we did
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: against ten, which I don't know that doesn't make sense,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: but I mean it's we looked poor, like me, like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: you looked more of a threat with a man down.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: It's incredible.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: But you see that, you see what happened in the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: in the in the Melian part of my game. Now,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I personally like I didn't see an issue with the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: player standing still and kind of just boxing out many personally, Yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: the follow was on the other Yeah, the other one.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't I get the argument that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: he was looking at the ball. He wasn't looking to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: foul bart. I understand that, and I still you see
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: he's not looking to get in one. However, he's still
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: impeding with his ability to the Yeah, like I mean
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: it's like, yes, he went over and then he did it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: He kind of just like leaned on him to get
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: the header.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: But like you know, also pisses me off, just I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: have to get this on my chest. And and you're
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: the perfect person probably the but just a vent with
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: But you know, they want to protect the goalies, right,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: you know they always want to protect the keeper, right.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like the quarterback in football. We want
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: to protect the quarterback. We want to protect the goalies.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: In soccer, right, you know you want to protect a goalie.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: But when a goalie literally interferes with an opposition player,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: an outfield player, which the I forget his name, though
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: the Parma keeper does with loft his cheek. There were
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: protecting the goalie even though he comes out I don't
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: want to say viciously, but he comes out and he
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: fucking not like knocks the guy like out right. But
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: on the other end, it oh, we're not protecting the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: keeper because.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: He didn't really do much. But every other time it's
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: they protect it's for me.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: I just there's no consistency.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: There's no consistency.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: That's that's the problem.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Because like I agree, a year ago or maybe it
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: was two years ago now, but there was a game
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: where Etheran's playing field and Tina and Jan Sommer goes
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: to punch the ball. He gets the ball first, but
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: then he hits the forward. I forget who it was,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: and I might have been Kwame or something who he
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: hits and he hit he did hit the player in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: the head.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: But he got the ball first.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where like he wasn't going to hit, he wasn't
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: trying to punch Kawam he was. He was going for
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: the ball and at that point they called the penalty
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: for field and Tina. Thank god, young Sommer made the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: save on the penalty and we were able to get
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: all three points.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: But then another game, I forget.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Who it was now, I'm i'm i'm it was either
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: a I think it was you, But the same instance
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: punches the ball first, then he hits the player after
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: with the same fall through. No penalty on that one. Yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Like there's no consistency, and said, yeah, there isn't. And
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: it always seems that a favor goes for They can
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: go for Inted, it can go for you, it can
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: go for me a lot of times, like I mean,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: and there's like there's been times where we've been awarded
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: penalty like I forget now was it what is against?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I don't remember, but Mickey Todd ain't got stepped on
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: after the fact in the box. Mikitaiin won the ball,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: he kicked, he got it out, you know, he misplayed
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: it and he gets stepped on and they called a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: penalty on that.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: To me, that's such be a b as penalty.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Like there's been twice that he could have been award
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: of penalties where a player gets stepped on after he
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: makes the contact, you know. Like so it's like he
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: gets the ball, he wins it, he plays it to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: whoever and then he gets stepped on and gets foul.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I get that it's a foul, but to me, not
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: a penalty if it has no bearing.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: On them as well. Yeah, I think it was.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: I think it was one of the derbies. Yeah it was.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and to me, never a penalty. Yeah, Like,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: am I glad we got the cause? Of course I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: pretend that I didn't, But like, those should never be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: called penalties, like, the same thing, Like I have an
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: issue with, like the off side rule your upper body,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Like if you're leaning to go chase a ball and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: your shoulder is off, you're not playing the ball with
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: your shoulder. It has no bearing on what actually plays
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: out in the game, like they need to do. Lower
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: half of the body is the only thing that should
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: be offside. That makes it a lot easier to understand.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: But that's a whole other argument. Yeah, the lack of
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: consistency in this league, the lack of transparency that we
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: get from the referees like that, you know. I mean, yes,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it's nice that we get to hear the reasoning behind
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: things now that we didn't get before.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: But then like, yeah, but it's the.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: League shit, because then at the end of it, we
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: get Rocky, the head of all this I was about
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: say not to say, and he has to excuse everything
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: and say, yes, there was a mistake here, there was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: a mistake there, and there was a mistake here.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: But we don't get those points back. We don't get we.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: Don't replay the games, we don't fix anything.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Nobody gets punished really like they get like a slap
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: on the wrist, but they get to continue to be
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: reps and Setiya.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: Sure, I don't. I don't like a lot of.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: The things that they get people get away with in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the e PL, but I do like that they are
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit tighter on what they give cards for
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: on what gets called penalties, Like some of the penalties
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: they got called in Setia they would never ever be
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: called in inably well probably anyway, but definitely not in
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: the EPL. So it's it's a it's just a lack
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: of consistency understanding of the rules.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: I think.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I think it complicates things way too much for these
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: referees that when they have their postseason or preseason trainings
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to understand like what what's expected. There's no there's no clarity,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: like every REP referee interpress things differently, Like my personal
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: favorite is Dna Dovetti, and I feel like this year
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: he's kind of like taking a step back because I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: think even he doesn't understand what really.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: Is a foul? What is a handball? What is it? Like,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: it's just it's a joke, and it.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Kind of makes the product on the pitch kind of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: meaningless because if the referee is going to have this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: level of an impact week in and week out, this
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: basically determining title races or or or matches or who
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: gets relegated and who gets promoted, like it just kind
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: of like dilutes the value of the league. And I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: feel like that's just it's just gonna make it almost
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: unwatchable in a year or two if they if we
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: keep going at this pace.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to thank you for letting me
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: rant and helping me because I knew if there was
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: one person to do it, it was it was huge.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: No man, listen, guys, I love coming on here because
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like you guys asked like the best questions.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not even just saying that, Like it just makes
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: it easy to want to talk and if I talk
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: too much, please shut me up, Like.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: We have we have I have another question, and then Nick,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: I know has a question too, So.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, uh go ahead, Adri.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I think we'll wrap it up after because I think.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: No no for no, no, go go for your question
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: and I want to ask.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask a lot to come back today.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I think Fred who they have a possibility. I think
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it's Arsenal.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 8: It's one of I think it's taught Him or Arsenal.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, depends on the draw. How far are they going
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: in the Champions League.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: If it's Tattenham, they definitely get to the quarterfinals. I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: think that they are a better coach team. I think
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: that they have better depth. They definitely have the better
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: goalkeeper with Karna Saki. I think that that is a big,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: you know, determining factor. Arsenal is gonna be tough because
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: of how strong they are on set pieces. I feel
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: like with the way that Paladino does his zonal marking,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough for them to kind of pick
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: up on all the things and the moving pieces that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Arsenal may have, like an on corners and set pieces
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And especially there's a lot of youth,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: right Like I mean what is it that kid better Nasconi.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: He's kind of come out of nowhere. He looks like
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal young player. I hope that he continues to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: develop and but still a little green behind the ear.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: You got Scalvini who we don't know if he's like
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: fully fit yet. He's looked great so far, and I
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: love everything that we've seen, but like I mean, the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: kids torn his a cl like you know, it's you
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: don't know how twice yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's like
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: love him as a player, you know, and it's what
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: are you gonna get from you know, skymach a week
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: in the week out. He's he gotta be like the
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: most incredible striker or he could be missing the entire game,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: like there's no win between with him. So yeah, that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: would make it hard against Arsenal, where I think that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: they'd be able to to kind of hide some of
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: their deficiencies a little bit better against against Tottenham. So
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: hopefully they pull Spurs. I think that'll be like the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: best chancefer and obviously us as an Italian, you know,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: supporting group that move on to the quarterfinals at the
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: very least, and who knows, maybe they get another lucky draw.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe somehow Sporting move on to the court
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: and they get to play a you know, Sporting Lisbon
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: And and.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: Maybe they get a semi final out of it. So
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: we'll see.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it pays man to bring in a good coat.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: It's it's either it's either Byron or Ars. By the way,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: not never.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: If it's.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: Congratulates around the sixteen, I guess boys.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. You had me with the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Tottenham h discussions.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I was convinced that they really would move on. But
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Byron Byron too fast, so that's worse.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: They're strong, they're strong.
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  Speaker 5: But but regardless, I think it pays a that, like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: what I was saying, to bring in a good coach
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: like I like Pauladino, man, like he's big, Like where
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: they were with you each at the beginning of the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: season and him coming in what four matches in into
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: Champions League, I think it was, yeah, and he brought
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: them to this point with the comeback of today. I mean,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: you know, Chapo to uh To to Palladino, because I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: predicted them at the beginning of the year to do
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: nothing in SEI and probably nothing in Champions League.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: Either with the hiring of Yurdish.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: Because for me it was what a terrible hiring?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Was terrible? Right?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: But you know, to bring in a young Italian coach
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: like Pauladino for me is uh is a.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Drub ball done just on that aspect.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: But speaking of Italian, just to wrap us up, because
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: we are going a bit on time here, but johem Marco,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: uh you hinted at a bit before and I don't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: want it to end on a negative.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: But are we getting into the World Cup to come
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: March whene? Was there, Jamarco? This this March up playoff
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: a month from tomorrow, a.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Month away exactly March twenty sixth Northern Ireland?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: What are your what are your quick takes there? And
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: are we making into the World Cup?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: I think we're able to get past Northern Ireland.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen, like it it's gonna
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: be tough, man, It really is, like I feel like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: this like just a quality of players that were able
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: to call upon compared to what we were able to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: do in years past. Like I mean, look at the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: background that Johnny has, Like what a difference it is
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: to see all those absolute legends we always bring it
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: up and it's like and and and I gotta see
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: you know a guy like one your no potentially starting
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: who's just been out of form, right like you just
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: our midfield is not what it used to be, even
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: by La Like I listen, I love the guy, but
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: he but he really is like the best option we
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: have outside of ton who are probably going to be
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: the starting You're starting midfield no matter what, right, and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been good. You don't know who's going to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: be on the right side, Like are we going to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: rely on veteran players like a Di Lorenzo or is
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Plesta going to get an opportunity? And is that a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: risk because you know this is like must win games now,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Like he hasn't really had a run out.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: With these guys. What is Gatuso gonna do?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he's firing on all cylinders in the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Saudi League, but like he's going up against guys who
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: were probably cab drivers, like you know the year before,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: they weren't really defenders and stuff. And you know it's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: is he going to be the starter? Is Po going
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: to get big minutes? Do I think he's ready? I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: don't I honestly don't know. I love the kid, but like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: do I want to put him in a situation where
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: he has to be performing to get us to a champion,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I mean a World Cup qualific I mean, I guess
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: that's a good, you know, person to have them in
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: your corner. But like, you know, he also says that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: he thinks Cardia Seki, you know, if it wasn't for
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: donal Duma would be the starter.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: So it's like, obviously donal um is gonna start this game,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: but like you know, we do. I don't know what
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: version of Calafiold he's gonna show up. I don't know
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: who the other center backs are gonna be. We know
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Demonica is kind of going to be locked at the
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: left back, but that's not his strength. He's like playing
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: in a back four, he's better up the pitch, Like
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: do we go to a back three?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: He's like it just.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: There's so many questions I have that I just don't
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: know what to expect. I honestly don't. I hope we
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: quite like to miss a third World Cup? Do we
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: just blow up the whole FIGC and like the start?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: H Like I mean, really, like where do you go
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: if you miss a third like that is a level
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: of embarrassment that I never thought I would experience in
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: my lifetime, Like seeing the teams from like ninety four,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: ninety eight oh two, Like I thought we could have true,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: truthfully won all three of those, not even I'm not
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: even just saying that, like talent wise, like what we
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: had at our disposal, we probably Johnny says that all
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Like I had this discussion with Yan many times before,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: like when we used to play ball hockey together, where
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: I was like, you just look at those rosters like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 11: they just they were they were just a golden generation
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: of players that had to go up against other nations
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 11: that were going through their golden generation.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: Today on Instagram, funny enough, I saw highlights of France
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: ninety eighth right, and honestly speaking, it came down to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: a crossbar because I was I was four going on sorry,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: I was five going on six during that woke up
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: like I was a month away from thirty six years old,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: and I remember that game and that was my.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: First like memory of like heartbreak for me.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 7: And but but like watching that again right as with
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 7: adult eyes, and I'm like, who was it was?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: It, I'd be I think it was Albertini that hit.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah it was Albertini.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they hit the crossbar, and I'm like, we
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 7: were a crossbar away from eliminading France. Who knows what
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: we could have done, Like maybe maybe we could have
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: wanted to worke up that year, maybe not. It remains
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: to be seen because he still had a very strong
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: Brazil to go through a ninety eight.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, another bit of But.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Then you look at two thousand and two, right, like
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: viei robbery, Vietti won the Golden Boot and he was
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: out in the quarterfinals like he was having an like
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: people don't remember how unbelievable of a tournament Casey and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Vietti was having thought he was unbelievable. The you know,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: the defense was was literally at their peak with with Nesta, Maldini,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Carlado and just an absolute robbery because of Brian Moreno.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: Who like I think if that.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Game does, like first of all, we outplayed the South
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Koreans off the pitch, Spain in the next round would
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: have been an easy matchup for US, and then if
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, it would have been Germany for US
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: in the semi final. Which they weren't the team that
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: they were in six, which we beat. They were obviously
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: better because they made the final and Oliver Kahn was
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: was at his you know peak as well, but Buffone
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: was unbelievable that tournament. I think it's underrated as well
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: because of the way that we lost on the golden
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: goal to the Koreans. I think we would have won
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: the two World Cup. I don't care that, you know,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: we're not phenomenal. Had that stupid aircut and you know,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: all the memories and stuff and what he did there,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: I think that as a team we would have beat
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: them there. Obviously we want to know six, you know,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: like we literally could have had and I'm not like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: people could say this is revision, is history, but we
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: could have had four World Cups in a row, not
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: even just four total.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah that would yeah, that would have been been good.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Like I was six and ninety four and I remember
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: watching that with my dad and watching that final and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: seeing my norm No cry because we lost on penalties
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: to the Brazilians. And you know, to have Bajio be
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: the one that like kind of seals it in that way,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: like I mean, he's it's it's heartbreaking in Yeah.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: So we make it or we don't.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: If we don't.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: If we don't make it, man, I'm I'm I may
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: take a break from life, like I may just have
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: to like sign off of everything, go live on a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: beach because it's join you. It's inexcusable, like we have
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: we we make it. We I say we make it
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: this time.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: I love it anyways, John Marco, listen, we we can
• 1:18:19
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• 1:18:22
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• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: it up there. Just again, thank you so much for
• 1:18:27
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• 1:18:30
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• 1:18:34
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• 1:18:37
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• 1:18:40
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• 1:18:45
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• 1:18:47
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• 1:18:49
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• 1:18:51
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• 1:18:52
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• 1:18:57
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• 1:18:58
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• 1:19:22
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• 1:19:23
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• 1:20:00
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