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- 0:02Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio a myth and Bullshit, a radio phonic novella.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Look Radio, hosted by Malamnio. Welcome back to local radio.
- 0:23Speaker 1: This is and this is Malms. Welcome back UM once
- 0:27Speaker 1: again for another gup of Brown Girl Hour. Thank you
- 0:31Speaker 1: for tuning in. This is I can't believe it already.
- 0:35Speaker 1: It's been It's been so much fun. It has been
- 0:38Speaker 1: someone's turkins. Oh my god, what did we miss that?
- 0:45Speaker 1: Oh my god? Right now this feels like I never
- 0:50Speaker 1: had a King Tanana and I'm still bitter about it.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Tonight we cannot do tonight. It's yes, another night. We're
- 0:58Speaker 1: gonna talk about this later, Okay, to my stone and
- 1:00Speaker 1: accidental Miles. Wow, Oh my god, I'm a little upset.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I know, I know we're gonna come back. So if
- 1:07Speaker 1: you're tuning in for the first time, we are look
- 1:09Speaker 1: at that our radio. We are a podcast more than
- 1:12Speaker 1: a podcast where we celebrate the brilliant legacies of women
- 1:16Speaker 1: and fems of color. Way more than a podcast. We're
- 1:19Speaker 1: a radiophonic novella exactly. So we um have two very
- 1:25Speaker 1: very very adorable special guests here today. We're so excited, UM,
- 1:29Speaker 1: and let's go ahead and introduce our guests and get started. Yes,
- 1:33Speaker 1: let's do it. So we have two beautiful, brilliant artists,
- 1:38Speaker 1: ladies from Let's Give, and we're gonna let them introduce themselves. Him. Hey,
- 1:45Speaker 1: I'm Mandy aka Dandy Mandy. But a lot of people
- 1:50Speaker 1: know of Dandy Mandy because you have a following. Girl,
- 1:55Speaker 1: it's impressed. I don't happen, but it happened. So tell
- 1:59Speaker 1: us of out Let's give, tell us about yourselves. Okay. Um.
- 2:03Speaker 1: I started Let's Give when I was fifteen, um on
- 2:07Speaker 1: eighteen now, so it's been it's been a bit of work.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I was when when we started it, it was kind
- 2:15Speaker 1: of like I was giving all of my life. And
- 2:18Speaker 1: I really wanted to create a platform for millennials to
- 2:21Speaker 1: break out of these stereotypes that have been building up
- 2:24Speaker 1: against us, saying that we're very self centered and we're selfish.
- 2:27Speaker 1: And I wanted to give you know, other my peers
- 2:30Speaker 1: and kids of my um my age and above too,
- 2:35Speaker 1: to have the opportunities to give back to our community
- 2:39Speaker 1: and like prove to people that were not selfish. Yeah,
- 2:42Speaker 1: that's amazing, and y'all have been going strong. You'll you'll
- 2:44Speaker 1: just had an event and a culture show not too
- 2:47Speaker 1: long ago that we were actually at, but I thought
- 2:49Speaker 1: the radio where we were doing street interviews there also. UM,
- 2:53Speaker 1: So that's so amazing that y'all started that. I know
- 2:55Speaker 1: you have a really strong support system. I know you
- 2:58Speaker 1: have your mama that's like you're right or die right.
- 3:01Speaker 1: So we started it together. I kind of had the
- 3:04Speaker 1: blueprint and I brought it to my best friend at
- 3:07Speaker 1: the time and he had the people. So we put
- 3:10Speaker 1: two and two together and we've been running for about
- 3:13Speaker 1: a year and a half now and we've we've done
- 3:16Speaker 1: a lot. I'm very proud of my team. Yeah, can
- 3:18Speaker 1: you tell us some of the things that you've done
- 3:20Speaker 1: in the past maybe a few months here even we
- 3:23Speaker 1: did a tripical culture that you guys are at. UM.
- 3:26Speaker 1: We are building the next one that should be coming
- 3:28Speaker 1: very soon. And then we've um fed in skid row. UM.
- 3:34Speaker 1: The numbers are escaping my mind right now, but we've
- 3:36Speaker 1: done skid row runs. We've donated shoes to middle schools
- 3:40Speaker 1: and Watts and UM clothes two families of Compton, so
- 3:47Speaker 1: we try to help our immediate community. But we've also
- 3:50Speaker 1: given UM clothes to like warm clothes to the water
- 3:54Speaker 1: Protectors in North Dakota and we also raised funds to
- 3:56Speaker 1: give water to Flint, Michigan. And um, soon we'll be
- 4:00Speaker 1: going to Guatemala. That's amazing, so let's talk about that.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Um So you're going to Watemala soon, so let's tell
- 4:06Speaker 1: tell us, tell our listeners about it. What inspired it? Well,
- 4:10Speaker 1: that's because it's gonna be my birthday. And um, I
- 4:15Speaker 1: was like talking to them about wanting to go somewhere
- 4:17Speaker 1: because like, Vegas ain't really like my type of scene.
- 4:21Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people like for their twenty
- 4:22Speaker 1: one I want to hit Vegas and I'm like, na,
- 4:24Speaker 1: like I want to go somewhere. And my thing, I've
- 4:27Speaker 1: always wanted to visit every single sight there is with
- 4:32Speaker 1: like um like indigenous you know, like pyramids, like any
- 4:36Speaker 1: ruins and stuff like that's my goal. And um, at
- 4:39Speaker 1: first I was thinking about you. I mentioned Thical and
- 4:42Speaker 1: then they started talking about like remember where Guatemala, Like
- 4:46Speaker 1: we we could go with let's go to Watemala, like
- 4:48Speaker 1: we'll take you to Thican and I'll just like not
- 4:51Speaker 1: for real and they're like no, for real, like let's go,
- 4:53Speaker 1: and I was just like, let's do this. And then
- 4:55Speaker 1: That's how it all started, and we're like, okay, we're
- 4:57Speaker 1: gonna make a trip of this, and then we just
- 4:59Speaker 1: kind of thought, well, like part of Let's Give is
- 5:03Speaker 1: the global aspect, and we were thinking like, okay, we're
- 5:06Speaker 1: going to Wala, let's handle the golob the global part.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And um, we figured we're gonna do something to raise
- 5:15Speaker 1: money to give back to the community and Watemala, and
- 5:19Speaker 1: that thing is Let's Tackle. That's our next upcoming event.
- 5:23Speaker 1: It's gonna be on June from eleven am to three
- 5:27Speaker 1: pm in Manhattan Beach and um KD is gonna be
- 5:32Speaker 1: playing music, We're gonna be selling tackles um lotezcas um
- 5:40Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna be doing ticket giveaways right yeah.
- 5:43Speaker 1: And then yeah, so if y'all want to come through support,
- 5:46Speaker 1: all the money or okay, fifty is going to Let's
- 5:53Speaker 1: Give um so we could keep doing these events and stuff,
- 5:56Speaker 1: and then the other is going towards Gatemala. And then
- 6:00Speaker 1: if for any reason you can't make it, you can
- 6:03Speaker 1: always donate to our PayPal. So all the infult for
- 6:05Speaker 1: all that is on the Let's Give Instagram page, which
- 6:08Speaker 1: is Let's dot give. Okay, amazing. Are you on any
- 6:12Speaker 1: other social media sites yet or just Instagram? We are
- 6:15Speaker 1: on Twitter at let's give crew. Um, we have a
- 6:19Speaker 1: snapchat let's stot give. Yeah, we have a snapchat Let's
- 6:23Speaker 1: not give. Our Instagram is let's not give, and on
- 6:25Speaker 1: Twitter is let's give. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, you
- 6:30Speaker 1: have accomplished so much in such a short period of time,
- 6:33Speaker 1: Like that's really incredible. Now who all helps to make
- 6:38Speaker 1: the organization actually move? Do you have volunteers? Do you
- 6:41Speaker 1: have like interns, Like how does the organization the footwork?
- 6:45Speaker 1: You know, you have a full, full team, like a
- 6:48Speaker 1: full work task with multiple different divisions. Um, we have
- 6:53Speaker 1: directors and assistant directors and commissioners of each division. Um.
- 6:58Speaker 1: My mom is a huge help the whole thing. And
- 7:01Speaker 1: then mom is here, Mom is here. Yeah, I was
- 7:04Speaker 1: always here, UM love her. I'm the adopted daughters. Um.
- 7:12Speaker 1: So yeah, we have a full blown team. And then
- 7:14Speaker 1: when it comes to like days of the events, Um,
- 7:16Speaker 1: we always open it up to volunteers. Um, um yeah
- 7:21Speaker 1: yeah we have. I think our team is like over
- 7:23Speaker 1: thirty people on our team right now, and we we
- 7:27Speaker 1: are opening positions soon. So well, I'm getting more people,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and y'all I know that you all aren't specifically, um,
- 7:34Speaker 1: you're not limited to the South Bay, but right now
- 7:37Speaker 1: y'all are kind of that's your hub, right yeah yeah, well,
- 7:40Speaker 1: I mean we run it out of my house in
- 7:42Speaker 1: Hawthorne and then we have people going all the way
- 7:46Speaker 1: from Long Beach to um Inglewood like we have like yeah,
- 7:54Speaker 1: a lot of it was built out of the nuleas
- 7:57Speaker 1: of like Torrance and hand and Beach and stuff. But um,
- 8:00Speaker 1: I recently moved back to the city that I grew
- 8:02Speaker 1: up in, so then I was able to contact more
- 8:05Speaker 1: people that I grew up with to come and join.
- 8:07Speaker 1: So we're spreading out. Yeah, that's amazing. I love it
- 8:10Speaker 1: big network already. And would you say your team is
- 8:13Speaker 1: predominantly you are there adults like who's you know, like
- 8:17Speaker 1: the heart and soul of the organ, it's all youth.
- 8:20Speaker 1: My mom is the only adult, UM, and she's kind
- 8:23Speaker 1: of there to just make sure that we are a
- 8:24Speaker 1: well oiled machine. But we make all the decisions, we
- 8:27Speaker 1: run the money, we um we take care of everything.
- 8:30Speaker 1: She's just there to keep an eye on us. Yeah. Yeah,
- 8:33Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's really incredible. Thank you. I think
- 8:36Speaker 1: the youngest member is fourteen, and our oldest member is man.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh so like our oldest Yeah, that's wonderful,
- 8:52Speaker 1: youth run for you, that's really beautiful. Oprah needs to
- 8:56Speaker 1: hear about it. We need to write some letters, like
- 9:01Speaker 1: everyone needs to hear. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And do you
- 9:04Speaker 1: see yourselves like continuing with this project as you get older,
- 9:09Speaker 1: you go to college, you whatever ventures you end up
- 9:12Speaker 1: you know, um, seeking out. Do you see this being
- 9:15Speaker 1: like a long term part of your lives. Let's give Yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: I actually, um, I actually will not deferred, but I
- 9:22Speaker 1: chose to stay here to go to a community college
- 9:25Speaker 1: so that I can continue running instead of going to
- 9:27Speaker 1: my dream college in Chicago. In college, well, it will
- 9:31Speaker 1: always be there forever. That's why I'd rather. I'd rather
- 9:35Speaker 1: stay here in l A and build up, you know,
- 9:38Speaker 1: in my home, and build this up. There's a lot
- 9:40Speaker 1: of movement happening in l A. And I went to
- 9:42Speaker 1: Santa Barbara and I wasn't ready, you know, to leave
- 9:44Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I'm thankful that I got that
- 9:46Speaker 1: out of the way, but you know, there's a lot
- 9:48Speaker 1: of movement happening here in l A. And I'm glad
- 9:49Speaker 1: that y'all are a part of it. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 1: that's incredible. I mean, I'm so excited to see how
- 9:55Speaker 1: this grows and what you all get into. Because even
- 9:59Speaker 1: the event that we went to at the high school
- 10:01Speaker 1: which I cannot pronounce the name of this high school,
- 10:03Speaker 1: high school finger, it was so fun. We had such
- 10:07Speaker 1: a great time. There were so many youths it was
- 10:10Speaker 1: it blew my mind, like it was so very fashionable.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I was telling them like in the crowd, like I
- 10:15Speaker 1: almost wanted to cry because I grew up like the
- 10:18Speaker 1: school that I went to, they were very like white dominated,
- 10:22Speaker 1: So being in a crowd and like looking at into
- 10:25Speaker 1: the conscious like full of like poc like it was
- 10:28Speaker 1: the most beautiful thing because I never experienced that in
- 10:31Speaker 1: school and like you know, it was a high school
- 10:32Speaker 1: auditorium and it just like the crowd and the vibe
- 10:35Speaker 1: was like there was so much soul in every person there,
- 10:37Speaker 1: and it hit me more close to home, especially because
- 10:40Speaker 1: that was the high school I was supposed to go
- 10:41Speaker 1: to UM and then I my mom made me move
- 10:44Speaker 1: because at the time when I was getting into high school,
- 10:46Speaker 1: it wasn't the best yet now it is UM, but
- 10:50Speaker 1: even like my parents went there and they're known for
- 10:53Speaker 1: like race riots and stuff, and we were able to
- 10:55Speaker 1: come in unite at that school especially, so that had
- 10:58Speaker 1: like so much symbolism to me, like black and brown
- 11:01Speaker 1: unity through our at this notorious school. So that was
- 11:05Speaker 1: really touching for me. Amazing, I love it, inspiring. Thank you,
- 11:12Speaker 1: Thank you, or castera belly rostra and and and and
- 11:20Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and
- 11:26Speaker 1: and and and and and and and send belly rong
- 11:35Speaker 1: and and and spend it belly rong and and and
- 11:41Speaker 1: belly wrong and and and um from from from from
- 11:50Speaker 1: from from from of it and ship mum, hello, welcome back.
- 12:02Speaker 1: We are back. So the lovely ladies of Let's Give
- 12:06Speaker 1: they had to they had to run because they're busy, Yes,
- 12:09Speaker 1: they're busy making moves, yes, making lots of moves. Were
- 12:12Speaker 1: so impressed by them. They're so cute, they're amazing. Um
- 12:16Speaker 1: and there Alma, Yeah, that was her. Alma, super dope.
- 12:24Speaker 1: She's amazing, like Mama, an amazing human being. So we're
- 12:28Speaker 1: really lucky that we got to meet her and connect
- 12:31Speaker 1: with her, and they brought us a gift. They did
- 12:33Speaker 1: bring us a gift. Well we will open that later,
- 12:34Speaker 1: yes we will. So thank you to La Morea, Alma
- 12:38Speaker 1: and Mandy of Let's give for being here today. Um So,
- 12:42Speaker 1: we have some pretty heavy content for the day, right,
- 12:46Speaker 1: which is why our first little segment was short and
- 12:49Speaker 1: sweet to kind of you know, be able to get
- 12:52Speaker 1: into this. Um so, but I think before we do that,
- 12:56Speaker 1: do we want to do shout birthday shoutouts or we
- 12:58Speaker 1: want to wait till the end? You can do that. Yeah, okay,
- 13:02Speaker 1: So not too long ago, it was Mariza's birthday Mommy Collected,
- 13:07Speaker 1: the Mommy Collective. So happy birthday girl. We got to
- 13:09Speaker 1: celebrate at a at a brewery and we had a
- 13:12Speaker 1: lot of fun and all of that. So happy belated birthday,
- 13:17Speaker 1: um and also congratulating congratulations to Gatto, also of the
- 13:22Speaker 1: Mommy Collective, of the Mommy Collective, for graduating yesterday from
- 13:26Speaker 1: u c l A. She received her master's. Yes, advanced degree, bitch,
- 13:30Speaker 1: advanced degree. Yeah, she's out there getting that degree. So
- 13:34Speaker 1: we're so proud of her, so happy for her, and
- 13:37Speaker 1: we're going to celebrate her later. We are so excited.
- 13:41Speaker 1: And it's yesterday's birthday. Yes, her birthday is next Friday.
- 13:46Speaker 1: The um you know her poet Phenom, also of the
- 13:52Speaker 1: Mommy Collector, also of the Mommy Collective. We have a
- 13:55Speaker 1: deep roster and we're actually celebrating her birthday tonight. It's
- 13:59Speaker 1: Saturday seventeen, I think, so yeah, whatever the I don't
- 14:03Speaker 1: know what today is, so we're going to be celebrating later.
- 14:05Speaker 1: So we just want to give quick shout outs to
- 14:07Speaker 1: our home girls that help us with the podcast, support us,
- 14:12Speaker 1: down for us, We're down for them. We love them,
- 14:14Speaker 1: so home to them. Yeah, I love sisterhood. It's like
- 14:19Speaker 1: what would we be board ye, sad and stressed out, hydrated,
- 14:24Speaker 1: behind everything, everything, all the things I don't want to
- 14:27Speaker 1: be right um. Yeah, so love to them. I love
- 14:31Speaker 1: to all of them. So. Um, it's been a rough
- 14:35Speaker 1: couple of weeks. It's been a rough huff, real rough.
- 14:42Speaker 1: It got real immediately as soon as right away January
- 14:46Speaker 1: immediately got real, and most recently this week, what's been
- 14:50Speaker 1: going on is, um, you know, just continuing oppression, continuing
- 14:57Speaker 1: anti blackness, supremacy, once premacy, the rape culture. Um, it
- 15:02Speaker 1: never sleeps, it never stops. Um. We just have to
- 15:05Speaker 1: kind of try and catch our breath in between you know,
- 15:09Speaker 1: crisis and in between each catastrophe and try and keep
- 15:12Speaker 1: it going. So this week, um, uh they wrapped up
- 15:17Speaker 1: the trial for an officer in Minnesota police officer and
- 15:23Speaker 1: I think his name was Officer Janice and UH, last year,
- 15:29Speaker 1: if you all will remember, UM, via Facebook live, a
- 15:34Speaker 1: video surface of Officer yanniz Um shooting and killing a
- 15:40Speaker 1: African American man, a black man named Philando Castile. His
- 15:45Speaker 1: girlfriend was in the past, was in was in the
- 15:48Speaker 1: car with him, and so was there UM small daughter,
- 15:51Speaker 1: I think she was like four years old when Officer
- 15:53Speaker 1: Jannis pulled them over, UM and ended up shooting and
- 15:58Speaker 1: killing Philando Casti and Philando Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Phillips, recorded
- 16:05Speaker 1: the entire thing, the attack, the entire attack, the murder.
- 16:09Speaker 1: She recorded the murder on Facebook live. And UM, I'm
- 16:13Speaker 1: pretty sure most people ended up seeing it. So what
- 16:17Speaker 1: ended up happening Now about a year later this week, um,
- 16:22Speaker 1: they wrapped up the trial of officer Jannas and he
- 16:25Speaker 1: was acquitted of all charges, so they found him not guilty. UM.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Philando Castile's mother spoke UM in Minnesota about you know
- 16:35Speaker 1: the fact that that state and the city that they
- 16:37Speaker 1: were in, that they were responsible for the murder of
- 16:40Speaker 1: her son of Filando UM. And so the question is, right,
- 16:45Speaker 1: how are there all these homicides of black people, but
- 16:49Speaker 1: there's never anyone found guilty. There's nobody, there's yeah, there's
- 16:53Speaker 1: no one health accountable, nobody found guilty, nobody is responsible.
- 16:57Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of conversation, you know, on Twitter,
- 16:59Speaker 1: of course, um, on the internet, on Instagram about continuing
- 17:05Speaker 1: functions of white supremacy and anti blackness. And today we
- 17:09Speaker 1: thought it important to always to talk about these issues.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Of course, to always talk about anti blackness, but more
- 17:15Speaker 1: pertinent right now is the fact that the officer who
- 17:19Speaker 1: killed Philandro Castile was a non black Latino man police officer.
- 17:25Speaker 1: And so you know, of course there are calls for
- 17:28Speaker 1: us to call our community in color community out as
- 17:32Speaker 1: Latinos in general, and especially Latinos who are not black,
- 17:36Speaker 1: who do not present a black who do not live
- 17:39Speaker 1: as black people, and bear that brunt of white supremacy, UM,
- 17:44Speaker 1: because it was somebody from our community right who committed
- 17:49Speaker 1: this act. So that's what we wanted to to bring
- 17:51Speaker 1: it up and talk about it today because we want
- 17:54Speaker 1: our listenership to engage in this conversation about Latino dad
- 17:58Speaker 1: and anti blackness that's so prevalent in our communities. And
- 18:02Speaker 1: we know that in Latin America there are a lot
- 18:05Speaker 1: of Afro Latinos and it's also denied constantly any type
- 18:09Speaker 1: of heritage of UM, any type of African descendants in
- 18:13Speaker 1: Latin America has always denied. Yes. So I actually wanted
- 18:18Speaker 1: to bring something from the ground. Batons. They're a New
- 18:21Speaker 1: York based UM collective for UM Queer Men right, Queer Chicanos,
- 18:29Speaker 1: Latinos Latin exus UM, and they shared this really great
- 18:32Speaker 1: post about anti blats in the Latino Latino community. So
- 18:37Speaker 1: I just wanted to read it. UM. The author is
- 18:39Speaker 1: named Miga and he is a Native detroitter and Chica
- 18:43Speaker 1: no queer mental and sexual health advocates. So I'm just
- 18:46Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and read it. UM. It's on Facebook,
- 18:50Speaker 1: we can share it on Twitter and all that. I've
- 18:52Speaker 1: seen it on Twitter, Critic and Cheese and also shared it.
- 18:55Speaker 1: So can we talk about how the killer cop hit
- 18:59Speaker 1: Onimo Yane is Mexican American, will not white. This terrible
- 19:02Speaker 1: example of pathological anti blackness demonstrates to us that white
- 19:06Speaker 1: supremacy can use non black people of color to uphold
- 19:09Speaker 1: its systems of oppression. I know for certain that my
- 19:12Speaker 1: fellow Mexicans can personally attest to the abundance of anti
- 19:15Speaker 1: blackness that exists in our community. Edonimo murdered Philando, and
- 19:19Speaker 1: I've not heard any of my woke Latino X or
- 19:22Speaker 1: Mexican friends say a peep, he's a monster, right, he's
- 19:25Speaker 1: also your brother, uncle and cousin. Yeah, this is where
- 19:28Speaker 1: the ally work matters. Hitonimo, a brown man, was acquitted,
- 19:32Speaker 1: not because of his innocence, but because the ten white
- 19:34Speaker 1: jurors were able to identify with his light skin Latin
- 19:37Speaker 1: X version of anti blackness and established an intersectional kinship
- 19:42Speaker 1: built on hatred for black people. While not always wielding
- 19:45Speaker 1: a gun, members of our community routinely express and enact
- 19:49Speaker 1: anti blackness. This happens through words and actual violence. Philandel's
- 19:53Speaker 1: case may be extreme, but it is not unusual. As
- 19:56Speaker 1: Latin X folks who often benefit from a hierarchy of racism,
- 20:00Speaker 1: we must be vigilance and dutiful in confronting anti blackness
- 20:03Speaker 1: and others and ourselves as allies for black liberation. The
- 20:07Speaker 1: honest is on us to do coalition work and be
- 20:10Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice privilege and relationships in pursuit of the struggle.
- 20:14Speaker 1: As a queer Chicano, I don't take responsibility for the
- 20:17Speaker 1: existence of white supremacy, but I certainly admit that I
- 20:19Speaker 1: can do more to confront anti blackness around me and
- 20:23Speaker 1: within myself. As Philando girlfriend's diamond stated, he was pulled
- 20:26Speaker 1: over because, per officer Yiannis, he was a wide nose.
- 20:30Speaker 1: He was he had a wide nose and looked like
- 20:32Speaker 1: a suspect. God help America, she continued, Yes, God help America,
- 20:37Speaker 1: but also let us Latin X folks help each other
- 20:39Speaker 1: confront and act on the problem. This time the problem
- 20:43Speaker 1: is ours there, it is English got to clean up
- 20:47Speaker 1: the mess. This is this is ours too, to dismantled,
- 20:53Speaker 1: to construct. Absolutely absolutely um. And I mean I think
- 20:58Speaker 1: that it's really, really, really telling that there are certain
- 21:02Speaker 1: sorts of you know, there's that saying hit dogs holler,
- 21:06Speaker 1: there are certain triggers that bring out really that real
- 21:10Speaker 1: ugliness in our communities. In the Latino community, we see
- 21:13Speaker 1: it every time there's some type of um like we've
- 21:17Speaker 1: been noticing. We see a new video maybe from a
- 21:21Speaker 1: group like me to right, that's featuring queer Latinos, queer
- 21:25Speaker 1: Latin x Is, and all of the homophobes and the
- 21:29Speaker 1: transphobes they come. They come. It's sickening, and they show up.
- 21:34Speaker 1: But specifically we see them showing up in swarms and
- 21:37Speaker 1: droves when it's queer latinox Is being centered in media
- 21:42Speaker 1: somehow right and the Latinia and the queerness a connection
- 21:47Speaker 1: being made between the two right and what they see
- 21:49Speaker 1: as their media. Right. There's no place for queer folk
- 21:52Speaker 1: in their media right. It's theirs and normative, heteronormative Latino,
- 21:58Speaker 1: not Latin X. And they the excuse quote bastardizing and
- 22:03Speaker 1: already perfect language, the colonizing language. There's so much. That's another,
- 22:07Speaker 1: so much, but I all of that to say, hit dogs, holler,
- 22:11Speaker 1: and they come out when there are certain triggers. So
- 22:14Speaker 1: the queer phobia brings them out. And then when black
- 22:17Speaker 1: people are killed by police and when we see anti
- 22:21Speaker 1: blackness systemically, we see, um the consequences of systemic anti blackness.
- 22:26Speaker 1: I think that Latino communities do a lot, do a
- 22:30Speaker 1: lot to sort of victim blame black people, to talk
- 22:35Speaker 1: about black people, um where in whatever context we're talking
- 22:40Speaker 1: about it. Commune United States US Latin x is doing
- 22:43Speaker 1: it or in Latin America, in Latin American media right
- 22:47Speaker 1: shooting on Afro Latinos Andigenous and indigenous folks. So the
- 22:53Speaker 1: problem is there. There's a constant denial of racism within
- 22:57Speaker 1: our own communities. But we we see, we see it.
- 23:02Speaker 1: We see it on the micro, in the macro and
- 23:04Speaker 1: the micro and the macro. You know, I mean all
- 23:08Speaker 1: of us were raised with on some level or another,
- 23:11Speaker 1: with anti blackness being taught to us from our parents.
- 23:15Speaker 1: How many Latinoxes can say, oh, yeah, my family, my
- 23:19Speaker 1: mom and my grandma, all the babies, they pinch everyone's
- 23:22Speaker 1: noses so that your nose doesn't come out? Why, right?
- 23:25Speaker 1: Or the first thing they ask is is stablanco? Exactly?
- 23:30Speaker 1: Like that's like I would say of non black families
- 23:35Speaker 1: of Latino families in general, right or growing up you know,
- 23:38Speaker 1: if you're maybe of a darker complexion and your Latino,
- 23:40Speaker 1: you're told not to be in the sun, yeah right,
- 23:43Speaker 1: or put some black some black on, right. That's very
- 23:48Speaker 1: common to hear. So we grow up with that, right,
- 23:51Speaker 1: and then it takes us a long time to learn
- 23:53Speaker 1: or maybe even question, like wait a second, that's not
- 23:57Speaker 1: there's something deeper there, right exactly. But that's how normalized
- 24:00Speaker 1: it is. That's how normalized it is. It's very normative,
- 24:02Speaker 1: very normative anti blackness. Being um a Chicana Mexican American,
- 24:07Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me, like because I did a
- 24:10Speaker 1: lot of like study and research about like Afro Mexican dad,
- 24:14Speaker 1: especially when I was in college, because it had a
- 24:16Speaker 1: lot to do with my capstone about how Afro Mexicans
- 24:20Speaker 1: have been represented in Mexican art and muralism throughout the ages,
- 24:25Speaker 1: physically showing up images of Afro Mexicans, but on a
- 24:28Speaker 1: national level of a cultural denial of blackness in Mexico.
- 24:33Speaker 1: And it's sort of like I saw that that that
- 24:37Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance, that denial come into play when I would
- 24:40Speaker 1: talk to my grandma and other older members of my
- 24:43Speaker 1: family who grew up in Mexico, and I would ask
- 24:45Speaker 1: them like, oh, like, you know there's black people in Mexico. Yeah,
- 24:49Speaker 1: there's Afro Mexicans. And everyone would say, oh no, no, no,
- 24:52Speaker 1: there's none, there's no black Mexicans, there's no we have
- 24:56Speaker 1: no African heritage, there's no m Afro Mexicanos. But then
- 25:00Speaker 1: I would I would take it a step further and
- 25:03Speaker 1: get specific, and I would say, well, aren't there a
- 25:05Speaker 1: lot of like Afro Mexican communities like on the coast
- 25:08Speaker 1: and in Vera Cruz. And then they would go, oh, well, yeah,
- 25:12Speaker 1: I mean they're yet so they know, but they deny automatically.
- 25:17Speaker 1: The first inclination is to deny, I think, which is
- 25:20Speaker 1: so telling that there's so much erasure that happens, and
- 25:24Speaker 1: it's so like psychological a lot of it, you know,
- 25:27Speaker 1: the immediate need two distance one's entire community and culture
- 25:33Speaker 1: from blackness and for what right, Yeah, yeah, and yeah,
- 25:39Speaker 1: that makes me think about because while I was studying
- 25:42Speaker 1: in Biddu, it was very similar. I was studying a
- 25:45Speaker 1: lot about Afro Petuanos and how folks from you know,
- 25:50Speaker 1: the continent of Africa were enslaved and through with one
- 25:53Speaker 1: of the countries that they were taken to, they were
- 25:56Speaker 1: kidnapped to every Latin American country, practically every Latin country.
- 26:01Speaker 1: And um, so there's like small like pueblos border the
- 26:05Speaker 1: sea on the outskirts of Lima Um that we're built
- 26:09Speaker 1: by folks that were enslaved there and like once they
- 26:11Speaker 1: were quote like freed right, Um, they created these little
- 26:15Speaker 1: homes outside of Lima, you know, so not even and
- 26:17Speaker 1: very just like makeshift type of home type of communities
- 26:20Speaker 1: which we can see a lot, a lot of um Yet,
- 26:24Speaker 1: you know, Petuanos and I speak from my from my
- 26:26Speaker 1: family don't want to talk about they're being Afro Latinos
- 26:29Speaker 1: as in our family, you know. So it's just like
- 26:32Speaker 1: you said, a very cognitive dissidence erasure, like we forget forget,
- 26:38Speaker 1: and let's be clear, like although I'm going to say
- 26:42Speaker 1: that basically all Latinos, especially non black Latinos, grow up
- 26:46Speaker 1: with an under some level of awareness of anti blackness
- 26:49Speaker 1: because it's in the language that our parents use and
- 26:53Speaker 1: that our grandparents used, and it's in like their teachings. Unfortunately,
- 26:57Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, there's this sort of well
- 27:01Speaker 1: juxtaposition that's being done right, and that's why the anti
- 27:06Speaker 1: blackness is so persistent, because they need another to juxtapose
- 27:11Speaker 1: us against right in the midst of white supremacy and
- 27:14Speaker 1: colonization and all these things. So we all have this
- 27:19Speaker 1: in our ear, but I didn't. I didn't like, wasn't
- 27:22Speaker 1: really awakened to it or put words to it until
- 27:25Speaker 1: I really started being exposed to the work of about Domnicana, right,
- 27:30Speaker 1: I think a lot of Latinos of our generation Latino
- 27:33Speaker 1: x Is have core on the internet who are online,
- 27:36Speaker 1: have only learned about after Latini, that about blackness in
- 27:40Speaker 1: Latin America and about racial hierarchies and anti blackness amongst
- 27:45Speaker 1: non black Latinos because of the Internet and because of
- 27:48Speaker 1: after Latinos Likenicana doing the work and teaching us about. Absolutely,
- 27:53Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned her because absolutely that is where
- 27:55Speaker 1: I have learned a lot about the racial hierarchies because
- 27:59Speaker 1: of Dominican. And she she talks about this a lot.
- 28:03Speaker 1: How as an Alfro Latina, her history isn't anywhere right,
- 28:07Speaker 1: so people want to come at her like, oh, well
- 28:10Speaker 1: you should know your history or stuff like that. Like
- 28:12Speaker 1: they'll come at her and talk talking about that, and
- 28:14Speaker 1: she's like, well, where am I going to find? My
- 28:15Speaker 1: history has never been written, right, And that's so that's
- 28:18Speaker 1: where we're exactly, So that's where we're learning. Like there
- 28:21Speaker 1: are after Latinos doing amazing work on the internet talking
- 28:24Speaker 1: about their histories, their experiences being black and Latino. So
- 28:32Speaker 1: it's important to have the conversation about after Latina. That
- 28:35Speaker 1: always because of the erasure. And also because to remind
- 28:39Speaker 1: us that as non black Latinos, as non black people
- 28:42Speaker 1: of color, no matter where we are, whether we're in
- 28:45Speaker 1: the United States more in Latin America, we are still
- 28:48Speaker 1: responsible for perpetuating and enabling and participating in anti blackness
- 28:53Speaker 1: because it occurs no matter what country you're in, it
- 28:56Speaker 1: in the in the Western hemisphere, and then you benefit
- 29:00Speaker 1: from it as well as a non black person exactly exactly, So,
- 29:05Speaker 1: not black Latinos, even if you're brown, even if you're
- 29:07Speaker 1: very very brown, even if you're a dark skin brown person,
- 29:11Speaker 1: you're still not a black person. You're not being faced
- 29:14Speaker 1: with anti blackness in the face of white supremacy. It's
- 29:17Speaker 1: not the same. And we cannot enable like any sort
- 29:22Speaker 1: of thinking that would like equate the two or minimize, right,
- 29:25Speaker 1: like what facts does. There's no time for it, you know.
- 29:30Speaker 1: And so that officer Janis was treated just like any
- 29:34Speaker 1: other white supremacist white police officer who was treated the
- 29:39Speaker 1: same as any of them, right because he was not black.
- 29:42Speaker 1: It didn't matter that he was brown. It was just
- 29:45Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't black Is gave him that elevation,
- 29:48Speaker 1: that step up, gave him license to kill right, Yeah,
- 29:56Speaker 1: you know, and you know, to be clear, like with
- 30:00Speaker 1: this content, we're putting it out with the hopes that
- 30:02Speaker 1: our listeners are like at a in a space where
- 30:06Speaker 1: you can hear it, engage with it and learn and
- 30:08Speaker 1: do better and seek out other information and other sources
- 30:11Speaker 1: on this topic, seek out you know, other writers, authors,
- 30:15Speaker 1: thinkers of the African diaspora and you know, and we've
- 30:20Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, Like I remember we talked
- 30:22Speaker 1: about Nadia Government in our she talks about how the
- 30:25Speaker 1: work starts at home, right, that this is a perfect
- 30:27Speaker 1: example of how the type of violence that we need
- 30:30Speaker 1: to undo, the type of anti blackness that we're raised with, right,
- 30:34Speaker 1: it needs to start at home if we're going to
- 30:35Speaker 1: deconstruct it, dismantle it, exactly, and she Nadias afro bertuanaa.
- 30:40Speaker 1: If y'all haven't tuned into that episode, you should, because
- 30:43Speaker 1: she's amazing. She'll also be back soon. That was the
- 30:49Speaker 1: absolutely No, it does start at home because that's where
- 30:53Speaker 1: we as children, we hear it, we learn it, internalize it,
- 30:56Speaker 1: and then enact, you know, the same abusive and oppressive
- 31:00Speaker 1: racist behaviors when we're out and about in the world.
- 31:02Speaker 1: And then we become adults, and then someone continues and
- 31:05Speaker 1: it perpetuates, and then we have children and what happens,
- 31:08Speaker 1: it continues continues. You serve on a jury now for
- 31:12Speaker 1: an officer who has killed an unarmed black person, right, um,
- 31:15Speaker 1: and what are you doing and what systems are you perpetuating?
- 31:19Speaker 1: And what does it say that you know this this man,
- 31:23Speaker 1: this Latino man, a police officer killed this Philando Castile
- 31:27Speaker 1: right with his daughter and his partner in the car.
- 31:30Speaker 1: And there's actual footage of it happening. And this is
- 31:34Speaker 1: an intersectional feminist issue. Yes, this is because this is
- 31:38Speaker 1: a public health issue, this is a reproductive rights issue, everything, everything,
- 31:43Speaker 1: It's it's so important that we talk about it as women,
- 31:45Speaker 1: as men of color feminist. If it's not a part
- 31:48Speaker 1: of your discussion, then what are you doing? Exactly? So
- 31:51Speaker 1: white supremacy and specifically for having the conversation about white
- 31:55Speaker 1: supremacy being carried out by law enforcement, white supremacy and
- 32:00Speaker 1: to blackness specifically being carried out by cops visa the
- 32:03Speaker 1: like the the the killing of black people right with permissions,
- 32:09Speaker 1: with state permission, um, and basically with social permission. Because
- 32:13Speaker 1: a jury acquitted this man recently. So there's social permission,
- 32:17Speaker 1: their state permission for police officers to kill black people. Right.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Black women are affected in every scenario because black women
- 32:28Speaker 1: are also shot down by police and it is not
- 32:31Speaker 1: only black men. Black children get shot by police. Right. Um.
- 32:35Speaker 1: And when black men and black children are being killed,
- 32:38Speaker 1: black women are still suffering. Their moms are, their mothers
- 32:41Speaker 1: are at the press conferences, their kids don't have fathers now,
- 32:45Speaker 1: their girlfriends don't have their partner to co parent with, right. Um.
- 32:49Speaker 1: And we see that it's an intersectional feminist issue because
- 32:53Speaker 1: we see the black women consistently, right showing up to
- 32:58Speaker 1: doing the work. Trayvon Martin his mother. He's now an
- 33:01Speaker 1: advocate against you know, police violence and anti blackness. So
- 33:05Speaker 1: it's an intersectional feminist issue because in any iteration of
- 33:09Speaker 1: this of this police violence, that black women are affective
- 33:13Speaker 1: and their children and their partners and their families are affective.
- 33:16Speaker 1: I think I read that his partner, Diamond, that she
- 33:21Speaker 1: was like recently arrested for something she had, like some
- 33:24Speaker 1: type of assault, right, And I'm like thinking about it,
- 33:26Speaker 1: like this woman is suffering from PTSD most likely absolute, right,
- 33:30Speaker 1: I would probably be losing my mind, like I have
- 33:34Speaker 1: no patience for anybody anymore. Someone murders the father of
- 33:37Speaker 1: my child in front of me, with my child in
- 33:40Speaker 1: the back, with with with no reason whatsoever, for zero
- 33:43Speaker 1: reason whatsoever. And that's why I think this is also
- 33:46Speaker 1: a public health issue because this is literally traumatizing entire
- 33:51Speaker 1: communities globally and generation and generations. That's that was multiple
- 33:56Speaker 1: generations in Philandro Castiles far exactly right. So Latinos, latin
- 34:02Speaker 1: X folks, we not only have to do better, but
- 34:05Speaker 1: we have to stop, you know, and just like educate ourselves,
- 34:12Speaker 1: educate each other, open our ears, listen. Even in our
- 34:17Speaker 1: our our biggest movements has Latino people are around labor
- 34:21Speaker 1: and immigration. That is where are organizing um Our manpower
- 34:27Speaker 1: goes immigration and labor, right, because those are the issues
- 34:31Speaker 1: that tend to affect us the most. And housing. But
- 34:33Speaker 1: I would say historically, if we talk about like big
- 34:36Speaker 1: movements and protests and marches and organizing, it's around those
- 34:40Speaker 1: two issues. And in both issues, we always always always
- 34:46Speaker 1: are racing everybody who's not us of that intersection as
- 34:50Speaker 1: well of that intersection as well. So immigration, you don't
- 34:54Speaker 1: see campaigns for after Latinos, for black immigrants, for African immigrants,
- 34:59Speaker 1: for African current folks. Right, it's very Mexico centered, not
- 35:05Speaker 1: even necessarily even broadened to really have cognizance and concern
- 35:09Speaker 1: for Central American immigrants who are facing deportation. Were very
- 35:14Speaker 1: narrow in our activism, um. But we're not the only
- 35:17Speaker 1: ones affected on this issue, but we've made ourselves the
- 35:20Speaker 1: face of the issue nationally, So in our activism we
- 35:24Speaker 1: have to do better and not participate in that eratier um.
- 35:28Speaker 1: In labor, right, there's been a history reratier of Filipinos
- 35:34Speaker 1: contributing to our labor movement right and the United farm Workers,
- 35:42Speaker 1: and it was Larry Itlian and Filipinos who laid the
- 35:45Speaker 1: groundwork and the framework. Um. But we made ourselves the
- 35:49Speaker 1: face of it, right, So there's a lot we have
- 35:52Speaker 1: to kind of like shrink a little bit. It's like
- 35:56Speaker 1: time to like take a seat and listen and then
- 35:59Speaker 1: talked to your people, you know what I mean, Like
- 36:01Speaker 1: listen to what Latinos are saying, black books are saying,
- 36:05Speaker 1: African Americans are saying, especially about anti blackness. You know,
- 36:10Speaker 1: it's like it's like when when as Latinos are people
- 36:13Speaker 1: of color, we tell why people that they're being racist, right,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I'm not. You know, well, actually,
- 36:21Speaker 1: you know, this is the time that we have to
- 36:23Speaker 1: listen because we probably are being anti black in some capacity,
- 36:26Speaker 1: in some way because it's so rooted, you know, So
- 36:28Speaker 1: this is the time to listen and then do the
- 36:31Speaker 1: work with your community, right, like true coalition building, because
- 36:35Speaker 1: here's my thing. If you have a problem with with
- 36:38Speaker 1: the idea of sharing the mic and sharing the stage
- 36:41Speaker 1: and sharing space, then you're not that's not that's not radical,
- 36:44Speaker 1: it's not revolutionary. It's just not. It's not. It's just not.
- 36:48Speaker 1: And like coalition building is supposed to be uncomfortable because
- 36:51Speaker 1: you're not changing, you're not growing. Nothing will happen if
- 36:55Speaker 1: it's comfortable, if it feels good. You know, it should
- 36:58Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable because you're unlearned things exactly, undoing, undoing, undoing
- 37:03Speaker 1: and learning. And we're all like folks, we all have trauma.
- 37:07Speaker 1: And then that's what makes it really difficult, right, we
- 37:09Speaker 1: all have trauma. We're all working through ship, we're all
- 37:12Speaker 1: trying to pay rent, we're all trying to survive. But
- 37:16Speaker 1: people are being killed. People are black, people are being killed,
- 37:19Speaker 1: people are being killed, and and like if we can,
- 37:25Speaker 1: if we think that we're capable of changing labor laws
- 37:30Speaker 1: and changing immigration laws, and we're capable of impact and change,
- 37:34Speaker 1: and then let's put that to you. So let's put
- 37:36Speaker 1: that to work. You know, like you, we cannot, as
- 37:39Speaker 1: non black people, ever expect anything. Don't expect anything from
- 37:43Speaker 1: black people. It's what I would say to non black Latinos.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Don't expect anything from black people. Don't expect them to
- 37:49Speaker 1: show up for you, don't expect them to do work
- 37:51Speaker 1: for you, because you're not doing ship in reverse right
- 37:55Speaker 1: to to lessen even the violence that we enact on
- 37:59Speaker 1: black community these right or black folks within our own community,
- 38:02Speaker 1: like our own communities exactly. So it's like, you know,
- 38:07Speaker 1: show up, do better, and that's that goes for all
- 38:10Speaker 1: of us. This is not necessarily a lecture. It to
- 38:13Speaker 1: us like thinking out loud, absolutely, you know, there's all
- 38:17Speaker 1: the work we have to do. Like my body and
- 38:19Speaker 1: I talked about this all the time, like within our
- 38:21Speaker 1: our Peruvian family, like what the funk like some of
- 38:23Speaker 1: the stuff that we hear and we're like we're no,
- 38:27Speaker 1: I don't know. And that's the thing too, Like there
- 38:29Speaker 1: are people that you can share to work with, especially
- 38:31Speaker 1: in your own family. Yes, absolutely not. I shouldn't all
- 38:34Speaker 1: be you don't put that emotional labor on yourself. But
- 38:36Speaker 1: this is the time to um talk about it. This
- 38:42Speaker 1: is the time to talk about it. This is the
- 38:44Speaker 1: time to talk about it um once again. Yes, thank
- 38:48Speaker 1: you for tuning into Another Capital Radio, tuning into Bronco.
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- 38:56Speaker 1: I still can't believe we didn't even put two and
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- 39:07Speaker 1: when I get back. Yes, when you gets going on
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- 39:14Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami because shout out to my lovely, dear,
- 39:19Speaker 1: beautiful friend Lorianne Lorianne Stacy, who I love so much.
- 39:23Speaker 1: We went to college together and she's fabulous. It's her birthday.
- 39:27Speaker 1: So we're going to Miami. We're going to be in
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- 39:33Speaker 1: I'm excited to see all the bikini thongs. Girl Summer
- 39:37Speaker 1: is my season, and I ordered a bunch of bathing
- 39:40Speaker 1: suits and like, I'm just my ass is going to
- 39:42Speaker 1: be out the whole summer, should the entire summer? I
- 39:46Speaker 1: cannot wait? Good, Um, yeah, it's warm in eline now.
- 39:50Speaker 1: I was waiting for it to get this form because
- 39:52Speaker 1: the minimal clothing is what I'd like to wear. Ideal, ideal.
- 39:55Speaker 1: I hate wearing jeans, They're uncomfortable, right, don't make me
- 39:59Speaker 1: wear a don't don't you do it? Don't. I don't
- 40:03Speaker 1: mind like a nice folk for you know, in the winter.
- 40:05Speaker 1: But when it's summer, I wanted to be hot and
- 40:07Speaker 1: I want to wear minimal clothing. And it's nice and
- 40:09Speaker 1: hot today. And my thing is like I look best
- 40:12Speaker 1: when I'm naked, so I like to emulate that visa
- 40:15Speaker 1: via my clothing if possible. I agree with you. I
- 40:19Speaker 1: find the same way. Sometimes I feel like clothes don't
- 40:21Speaker 1: just don't do me justice, I know, right, like cramping
- 40:26Speaker 1: my style, getting my way. The chasing is anyways too much, anyways,
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