Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Rob Astorino, WOR and NewsMax host interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Right on time, Larry. Our colleague here, W.O.R., Rob Astorino,
- 0:05Speaker 1: who's been through some grueling political battles. But I want
- 0:09Speaker 1: to start out first, Rob, by saluting your colleague, Mike Lawler,
- 0:13Speaker 1: not only for him being so gracious in defeat early
- 0:16Speaker 1: in the night, but then had a chance to explain
- 0:19Speaker 1: it because I saw it on my own thread with
- 0:22Speaker 1: the malfunctioning of the machines early on Election Day. The
- 0:26Speaker 1: thread was out. You know, I saw the Stop the
- 0:29Speaker 1: Steal hats. He didn't want to start screaming fraud. The
- 0:33Speaker 1: election deniers were out. See, they're doing it again. It's 2020.
- 0:37Speaker 1: And he said, I wasn't going to feed the beast
- 0:39Speaker 1: of the conspiratorial thinking. I knew where my votes were
- 0:42Speaker 1: and I knew where they weren't. And I came out
- 0:45Speaker 1: and I acknowledged defeat and I was gracious to my adversary.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I thought he really did a service to the whole nation, Robin.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you know what?
- 0:57Speaker 3: I talked to Mike yesterday. We had a nice, good,
- 0:59Speaker 3: long conversation. I mean, we've been friends for a very
- 1:01Speaker 3: long time. And, you know, it's hard. I've been through
- 1:05Speaker 3: it and he's been through it now.
- 1:06Speaker 4: And it's $ 65 million was spent in that race all in.
- 1:12Speaker 3: $ 65 million for that congressional race. And in the end,
- 1:16Speaker 3: it honestly, I don't think it would have mattered if
- 1:19Speaker 3: they put a billion dollars into that congressional race. It
- 1:22Speaker 3: was what it was on Tuesday.
- 1:24Speaker 4: And it was just You know, when you watch those
- 1:28Speaker 4: like zombie movies.
- 1:29Speaker 3: It opens up. It's like orange on the screen and
- 1:32Speaker 3: it's like, you know, tumbleweeds and torn out cities.
- 1:37Speaker 4: That's kind of what it looks like for Republicans.
- 1:39Speaker 3: On Tuesday and Wednesday. Now, it just it was an
- 1:42Speaker 3: apocalypse almost.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing could have changed the outcome or the direction Tuesday.
- 1:48Speaker 3: We didn't know that. We knew it was going to
- 1:50Speaker 3: be a tough environment.
- 1:51Speaker 4: None of us knew it was going to be so
- 1:53Speaker 4: bad until the first return started coming in in Florida.
- 1:58Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
- 2:00Speaker 1: On that note, Mike Lawley yesterday said Jesus Christ couldn't
- 2:03Speaker 1: have won that Republican seat, meaning his seat in the
- 2:07Speaker 1: 17th Congressional District.
- 2:09Speaker 3: He's right, but Satan won. Oh, I didn't say that.
- 2:15Speaker 5: Rob, I can't believe you've played into this whole thing.
- 2:18Speaker 5: An apocalypse?
- 2:19Speaker 3: Seriously?
- 2:20Speaker 4: I heard you guys argue about this yesterday.
- 2:23Speaker 5: Oh, my God. Hold on a minute.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Am I talking to Robinson Crusoe?
- 2:29Speaker 2: Listen to me. Listen to me. This has happened to Reagan.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It has happened to FDR. It's happened to Eisenhower. It's
- 2:37Speaker 2: actually pretty common. This doesn't make the top ten.
- 2:42Speaker 4: No, but here's why I think it was very brutal
- 2:47Speaker 4: and it could have longer lasting because it wasn't just
- 2:51Speaker 4: that we lost particular areas.
- 2:55Speaker 3: We lost in the heartland. We lost in the Midwest.
- 2:59Speaker 4: But more significantly, Texas committed suicide on Tuesday night. Economically,
- 3:06Speaker 4: that is the state everyone was going to, which was
- 3:08Speaker 4: part of the problem, maybe. But what they decided to do,
- 3:11Speaker 4: it wasn't just sending Tallarico to the Senate. It was
- 3:15Speaker 4: literally overturning the entire table and breaking everything.
- 3:19Speaker 3: That was working.
- 3:20Speaker 4: So up and down, the Republicans are all out, including
- 3:23Speaker 4: in the state legislature. Texas now, if Texas holds, and
- 3:29Speaker 4: in two years, you know, they got a redistrict.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Now they control all the redistricting.
- 3:33Speaker 4: They control all the power statewide for a presidential election.
- 3:36Speaker 4: So if the Democrats take Texas and the Electoral College vote,
- 3:40Speaker 4: You tell me how the Republicans are going to win nationally.
- 3:42Speaker 5: No, I get it. Believe me, I understand it. I
- 3:45Speaker 5: understand it. I'm just saying that everybody thinks this is historic.
- 3:50Speaker 5: Everybody thinks this is the biggest ever. It's not.
- 3:52Speaker 6: It's nowhere close to the biggest ever. There had to
- 3:55Speaker 6: be resets many, many, many times. And what happens over
- 4:00Speaker 6: the next two years is going to determine that. Like
- 4:04Speaker 6: when Obama had two awful midterms.
- 4:07Speaker 5: In a row.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Yes.
- 4:09Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, there are you can
- 4:11Speaker 4: ride a wave or you could you could be just
- 4:15Speaker 4: completely drowned by it. And I've had both when I
- 4:17Speaker 4: got elected county executive. I mean, look, we defy the odds.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Why?
- 4:21Speaker 4: Because Obama got elected in 09. I was I'm sorry,
- 4:25Speaker 4: in 08.
- 4:26Speaker 3: I was running the.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Following year and I you know, there was a big
- 4:29Speaker 4: issue that I was running on with the HUD settlement.
- 4:31Speaker 4: But it was also a backlash against Obama. So I
- 4:35Speaker 4: that's how I won in a two and a half
- 4:36Speaker 4: to one Democratic county. But then in 17, Trump got in.
- 4:41Speaker 4: In 16, I'm running for re-election. We had good numbers,
- 4:44Speaker 4: but like Mike, same thing, good numbers. But you can't
- 4:47Speaker 4: keep up with the volume of people coming.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Out to send a message, especially the Democrats. And that's
- 4:53Speaker 3: kind of what happened.
- 4:54Speaker 4: But if you look around the country, Republicans did not
- 4:58Speaker 4: come out in many ways. They didn't come out. Some
- 5:01Speaker 4: Republicans flipped their vote to Democrats. And independents went, you know,
- 5:05Speaker 4: went big on to the left. So and obviously Democrats
- 5:08Speaker 4: were foaming at the mouth to vote all week. And
- 5:11Speaker 4: you just you cannot keep up with that.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Right.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Again, it's happened before, though.
- 5:16Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it does.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Your friend, my friend, Mike Lawler's friend, Elise Stefanik, the congresswoman,
- 5:23Speaker 1: came out firing her Gatling guns. She said there needs
- 5:29Speaker 1: to be a generational change.
- 5:31Speaker 5: Goodbye, Ed Cox.
- 5:33Speaker 1: I will help the GOP get back on its feet.
- 5:36Speaker 5: That's great.
- 5:37Speaker 1: She recommended Mike Lawler become the chairman of the state GOP.
- 5:42Speaker 1: He's well familiar, as you are, with all 62 counties.
- 5:46Speaker 1: The battle is on for what is left of the GOP,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and obviously she took shots at Blakeman, and then Blakeman said, oh, man,
- 5:56Speaker 1: let me tell you something. She had one moment of
- 5:58Speaker 1: glory in what was otherwise an unremarkable career.
- 6:01Speaker 5: Blakeman, shut the hell up.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Look, this is what happens when we get our ass kicked, right? Nationally,
- 6:09Speaker 4: we're going to go through this. Here, nothing's really changed,
- 6:13Speaker 4: and that's been very frustrating.
- 6:15Speaker 5: It's hard.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I mean, you're in a blue state, deep blue state.
- 6:18Speaker 3: It's hard to win as it is.
- 6:19Speaker 4: And then when you have divisions, and we've had that
- 6:22Speaker 4: in this state party and even with the conservative party.
- 6:26Speaker 3: I mean, at times we're battling with the conservative party.
- 6:29Speaker 3: We can't win together, let alone alone. So That's going
- 6:35Speaker 3: to happen.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Do I think Ed Cox should stay as chairman anymore?
- 6:38Speaker 4: I love Ed.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I've known Ed a long time.
- 6:40Speaker 4: I do think it's time for a change. I do
- 6:42Speaker 4: think we need somebody else in there. Whether it's Mike Lawler,
- 6:47Speaker 4: I doubt he would do that.
- 6:48Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think he should do that.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I think he should take a very deep breath.
- 6:55Speaker 3: You know, go into the back into the real world,
- 6:57Speaker 3: provide for your family, relax.
- 7:00Speaker 1: He's young.
- 7:00Speaker 4: He can come back at some point and he should. But,
- 7:03Speaker 4: you know, The party has to be fixed.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Nationally now, we need to, and here in New York State.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Rob, I don't know if you were listening yesterday. Oh,
- 7:13Speaker 5: of course you were.
- 7:13Speaker 6: I mean, why wouldn't you be, right? Of course you
- 7:17Speaker 6: were listening yesterday. But Curtis suggested that you be the
- 7:23Speaker 6: new chair of the Republican Party in New York City.
- 7:27Speaker 6: And I thought to myself... New York State. New York State, yeah.
- 7:29Speaker 6: Of course, New York State. And I thought to myself...
- 7:32Speaker 6: Why would he possibly do that? He's rolling in the
- 7:34Speaker 6: big bucks with the seven jobs he has.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Especially the WOR one, right?
- 7:44Speaker 4: If there's any sharp objects near you in the studio, Larry,
- 7:47Speaker 4: can you pick it up and stab him in the
- 7:50Speaker 4: eye for me?
- 7:53Speaker 1: Well, there's always Constantino, the last mega man standing. Rob,
- 7:59Speaker 1: I've been warning our audience. This is the worst candidate
- 8:02Speaker 1: I've ever seen. He replaced Stefanik as Trump picked him
- 8:05Speaker 1: against the Republican Assemblyman. Ladies and gentlemen, you must go
- 8:10Speaker 1: on the thread and see. You think George Santos was bad?
- 8:13Speaker 1: This guy's 10 times worse.
- 8:16Speaker 3: You know what?
- 8:17Speaker 4: Honestly, and the El-Sayed stuff. Did you see El-Sayed's, quote,
- 8:21Speaker 4: victory speech? You know, I've always said thou shall not
- 8:26Speaker 4: gloat in victory nor sulk in defeat. I just think
- 8:28Speaker 4: you have to have grace.
- 8:30Speaker 3: He has none.
- 8:31Speaker 4: El-Sayed screaming in Arabic and telling Mike Rogers to go
- 8:35Speaker 4: retire in his 10 homes.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Which doesn't exist.
- 8:39Speaker 4: It's just so frustrating. I mean, we're so far off
- 8:43Speaker 4: on moorings in this country. And two years from now,
- 8:48Speaker 4: that's it. That is the threshold two years from now.
- 8:50Speaker 4: They will hold the Senate, the Democrats. They likely will
- 8:53Speaker 4: hold the House. And if if a Democrat president gets
- 8:56Speaker 4: elected and they have the trifecta, then they're going to
- 8:59Speaker 4: do everything that they say they would do.
- 9:02Speaker 3: There'll be too much pressure not to. And this country
- 9:04Speaker 3: will no longer be.
- 9:05Speaker 4: I mean, it's not hyperbole anymore to say it because
- 9:08Speaker 4: they're telling us what they want to do.
- 9:10Speaker 3: So this country will.
- 9:11Speaker 2: You're going to make me stab myself. What are you
- 9:15Speaker 2: talking about? Is this Rob Astorino?
- 9:20Speaker 4: Well, you don't think they would add Washington, D.C.
- 9:23Speaker 3: And Puerto Rico? Of course they will.
- 9:25Speaker 4: You don't think they'll stack the Supreme Court?
- 9:27Speaker 2: I do.
- 9:28Speaker 5: I do.
- 9:29Speaker 4: I do.
- 9:29Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to happen. That's all. I
- 9:32Speaker 5: think that, listen, can.
- 9:33Speaker 2: We rebuild and be a little bit more optimistic, Rob?
- 9:38Speaker 3: Not today. I'm so depressed.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Come on, become chairman of the New York State GOP.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, Rob. Have a great weekend. Have a
- 9:49Speaker 5: great show over the weekend.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Thank you.