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FINALLY JUSTICE: Arrest Made for the Murder of 19-year-old UNC Student · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A beautiful young U and
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  Speaker 1: se co eds murder, her family distraught? What happened to Faith?
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  Speaker 1: Hedgepath Crime Stories with Nancy Grace On nine one one?
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  Speaker 1: Where is your emergency? I just liked this part in
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  Speaker 1: and my friend's conscious? Okay, So what's your address, ma'am?
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  Speaker 1: I live at Hawkserd that's this you give me? Give
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  Speaker 1: me the address. I just I just look here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to get it. Oh my god, it's um the
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  Speaker 1: extreme nine old Chaplin Hill Road in girl. Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: say your friend is unconscious. He's unconscious. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to appointment in there looks like this. Okay, you are
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  Speaker 1: hearing the nine one one call made by Fate the
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  Speaker 1: hedge Path roommate. You know, that's one of the first
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  Speaker 1: things I like to play for a jury because it
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  Speaker 1: takes you to the moment, to the scene of the crime,
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  Speaker 1: and very often you learn things you can't learn later
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  Speaker 1: as a trial progresses. Take a listen to more of
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  Speaker 1: that nine one one call Fate the hedge Path. A
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  Speaker 1: co ed there at unc found unconscious in the floor
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  Speaker 1: by her roommate. Listen, I'm gonna tell you how to
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  Speaker 1: help her okay, okay, okay, how how old is your
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  Speaker 1: How old is she? Okay, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to touch her, but listen to me. Is she breathing?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You need to check and see is
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  Speaker 1: she breathing? Ye? Hate, I don't think so, I don't think. So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: listen to him. Flood everywhere. There's what there's blood everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happening. I'm trying to understand what
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  Speaker 1: the roommate is seeing. You know, very often it's critical
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  Speaker 1: in what position the victim has been found, has seen
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  Speaker 1: been staged in any way? Take a listen to more
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  Speaker 1: than I'm on call. Okay? Is she on her back
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  Speaker 1: or is she on her laying on her stomach? You know,
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  Speaker 1: I loves like she she's so off the back because
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  Speaker 1: she's like, thanks, flood all over the pillows, like in
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  Speaker 1: the comfort there. Okay, all right, listen Tommy, all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's so much. Yes, I've got somebody coming. I've got
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  Speaker 1: somebody coming. I need for you to help her. I
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  Speaker 1: need for you to go up to her. We need
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  Speaker 1: to see if she's breathing or not. Okay, thanks, so okay, listen, Tommy,
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  Speaker 1: go up. The paramedics are on their way. You're hearing
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  Speaker 1: the nine one dispatch her or trying to give instructions
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  Speaker 1: to Faith Hedgepaths roommate who has discovered her. She thinks
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  Speaker 1: she's unconscious, She's not. She's dead. Faith Hedgepath just nineteen
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  Speaker 1: years old, found dead in her apartment that she shared
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  Speaker 1: with the roommate on September seventh. Classes were just kicking
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  Speaker 1: into that time at very popular UNC joining me an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of it all. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flax,
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  Speaker 1: and you can find her every day on Today with
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Wendy KCBQ, San Diego. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists
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  Speaker 1: joining us from the Atlanta Jurisdiction, weighing in her website,
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  Speaker 1: Angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Todd Barr, Deputy Medical Examiner,
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  Speaker 1: forensic pathologist at the Medical Examiner's Office. Cheryl McCollum, Founder
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  Speaker 1: Director of the Coldcase Research Institute. You can find her
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  Speaker 1: at Coldcasecrimes dot org. Serena Fazan four time Emmy Award
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  Speaker 1: winning TV anchor reporter, star of On the Record with
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  Speaker 1: Serena Fazzan. But first I want to go to a
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  Speaker 1: very special guest joining us is Connie Hedgepath. This is
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  Speaker 1: Faith's mother. Connie. Thank you for being with us. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: You know I've always wanted to ask you a question. Um,
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  Speaker 1: how did she pick the name Faith? For Faith Hedgepath? Um.
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  Speaker 1: At that time when I found out I was pregnant. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there was troubling in my marriage and I had to
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  Speaker 1: leave after she was two months old. Um. My husband,
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  Speaker 1: he was on drugs, and so I had to leave
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  Speaker 1: when she was two months old. And I knew with
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  Speaker 1: my faith in God that got me through it. So
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  Speaker 1: I named her Faith. You know, it's it's interesting, Connie,
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  Speaker 1: that everyone has a reason behind the name they choose
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  Speaker 1: for their child. Old enough always wondered about why you
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  Speaker 1: named her Faith. We were just playing that nine woman call,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to apologize for any hurt that it
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  Speaker 1: causes you, but we have to confront the evidence head on.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you were contacted and told something
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  Speaker 1: had gone very wrong? Yes, it was just like it
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  Speaker 1: was yesterday. I was at work and I was getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to have a meeting. I was the human resource
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  Speaker 1: manager at Loew's and run at Rasis, North Carolina, and
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  Speaker 1: one of my managers came to me and told me
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  Speaker 1: that one of my co workers, which he worked hard
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  Speaker 1: time and he was he worked with the Run of
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  Speaker 1: Rapids Police department. He needed to see me. And so
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  Speaker 1: I went in the manager's office and uh closed the door,
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  Speaker 1: and she told me that he had a ladies on
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  Speaker 1: the phone from Chapel Hills Police Department that wants to
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  Speaker 1: sleeep in me. J ask, you're right right there when
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  Speaker 1: you we're told that, did you get any feeling or hunch? No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just um, I just wonder was it
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  Speaker 1: something about Faith? But you know, didn't know foot foot
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  Speaker 1: It was about um so and of course you know
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  Speaker 1: that don't That doesn't in a parent's mind that they're
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  Speaker 1: all is dead. But anyway, so when I picked up
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  Speaker 1: the phone when he came into the phone, um I
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  Speaker 1: she asked me, um, did I know Faith touch best?
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  Speaker 1: And I said Yale, And she said, um, how do
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  Speaker 1: you know her? I said, she's my daughter. And she said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to inform you, but Faith is dead. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I said, no, she's not dead. You must
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  Speaker 1: have the wrong person, you know, it can't be her,
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  Speaker 1: and she said it is her and we have I
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  Speaker 1: did her and we need you to come to Chapel Hill. Ben,
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  Speaker 1: had you I've spoken to her. I spoke to her.
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  Speaker 1: The last time I spoke to her was that was
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  Speaker 1: on a Friday, and I had spoke to her on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: which was my birthday. She'd call me and wished me
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  Speaker 1: I had a birthday at work Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we are talking to Connie Hedgepath. This is Faith's mother
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  Speaker 1: joining us. You know, to you, Cheryl McCollum, you can
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  Speaker 1: learn a lot about your victim. And what you learn
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  Speaker 1: about your victim projects what you learn, it unveils evidence
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  Speaker 1: that you use to determine who is the assailant. Because
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  Speaker 1: this is what I learned about Faith Hedgepath. Faith, of course, gorgeous,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful brunette, young girl, just nineteen years old and very
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  Speaker 1: very smart. I don't know if you knew this, Cheryl,
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  Speaker 1: but she had actually won a scholarship to study biology
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  Speaker 1: at UNC Chapel Hill and her dream was to become
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  Speaker 1: a doctor. Not only that, she worked as a waitress
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  Speaker 1: and had come out of school because her caseload was
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  Speaker 1: so heavy, she'd have time to study as much as
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to. What a dream child to have a
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  Speaker 1: child that wants to study more. And then she went
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  Speaker 1: back and still with a scholarship, and she was considering teaching.
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  Speaker 1: I mean everything about her was good and wonderful, and
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  Speaker 1: that tells me a lot, Cheryl. This is not a
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  Speaker 1: young girl who was experimenting with alcohol and drugs and
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  Speaker 1: men and staying out all night partying. This is a
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  Speaker 1: girl that actually wanted to study even more. And that
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  Speaker 1: rules out a lot of possibilities. It rules out a
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  Speaker 1: lot of possibilities and a lot of people. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: say she wasn't coming out of a bar at four
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  Speaker 1: am and got kidnapped, exactly, So you and I would
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  Speaker 1: spend a lot of times looking at suspect pools. So
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  Speaker 1: if somebody were, you know, using her, dealing drugs, if
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  Speaker 1: somebody were you know, dancing at a club for a living,
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  Speaker 1: you mean, it's true. People, I can't believe you of
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  Speaker 1: all people are mincing words, But go ahead. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it matters because you're exposed to people that
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  Speaker 1: have a criminal element. And I want to be clear.
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  Speaker 1: One victim is not more important than another victim because
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  Speaker 1: they are more Opposuately, what I'm saying is it's all
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  Speaker 1: about the evidence from me, Cheryl, who, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: who is she exposed to? What's my pool of suspects?
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, because that's where it starts. If she were
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  Speaker 1: you know, she was in the library earlier that day. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so she's around other students that are studious and you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get their work done. Then you know she's
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  Speaker 1: with her roommate. Again, limited access to people, very limited.
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  Speaker 1: She was at a rush event. Those are very specific people.
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  Speaker 1: The majority are going to be women. So again, her
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  Speaker 1: suspect pool is very small here. She's been exposed to
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  Speaker 1: very few people that would have a criminal elements. You know,
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  Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. Maybe Cheryl McCollough, director of
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  Speaker 1: the Cold Case Research Institute and forensics expert. Maybe we
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  Speaker 1: jump the gun. Let's go to Serena Fazon joining US
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter on the record with Serena Fason. Serena Fazon,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Let's just start at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, and I want you to hear Serena before
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  Speaker 1: you kick it off. Take a listen to more of
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  Speaker 1: that nine one one call. Listen carefully. Well, she's not moving, okay,
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  Speaker 1: No touch her arm? Tell me how does she feel? Okay, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: We need to find out if we can help her
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  Speaker 1: or not. You've got to, you know, do as I'm
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  Speaker 1: asking so we can help her. All right, Okay, if
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  Speaker 1: you can lay her flat on her back, remove any
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  Speaker 1: pillar flat on her back, glad on her back, remove
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  Speaker 1: any pillars. Okay, okay, Neil. Next we're looking her mouth
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  Speaker 1: for food or vomits. Look really okay, Neil. Next we're
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  Speaker 1: looking her mouth for food or volod tell me something continuing?
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  Speaker 1: What is your name? I'm sorry, I'm really it's okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, let me go straight
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  Speaker 1: out to doctor Todd M. Barr joining US depute Medical
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  Speaker 1: Examo and forensic pathologist. Doctor Barr, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for being with us. I've got a question, why is
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  Speaker 1: that so important? What? The first of all, in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: i'm one operators, you know, God bless them. But what
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  Speaker 1: they're asking the person, unless you're trying to explain how
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  Speaker 1: to do CPR, they ask the most inane questions like well,
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  Speaker 1: who was with her earlier today? Tell me her? dB
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  Speaker 1: just all kind of let me just say obscure facts
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  Speaker 1: when the person is clearly going out of their mind.
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  Speaker 1: You hear the roommate keeps saying there's blood everywhere, there's
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  Speaker 1: blood everywhere. But in this case, she's trying to tell
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  Speaker 1: the roommate Kreta how to perform CPR. We heard her
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  Speaker 1: state put her on a flat surface. What's the point
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  Speaker 1: of what the dispatch is telling her, Well, Nancy, I
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  Speaker 1: think the reason she wants her flat on the floor
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  Speaker 1: is that in case there's any evidence that she might
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  Speaker 1: even be breathing shallow that CPR could be started. And
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  Speaker 1: if she's in an awkward position like hanging over the
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  Speaker 1: side of a bed or curled up under or something
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  Speaker 1: to that effect, it's not effective to do CPR those positions.
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  Speaker 1: So I think she's trying to calm the roommate down
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  Speaker 1: by asking her these mundane questions and to get the
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  Speaker 1: body positioned in an area where PPR would be most effective. Now,
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  Speaker 1: my only concern is if in fact the young lady
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  Speaker 1: is not breathing, then moving her around and dragging her
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  Speaker 1: around is only going to confound the evidence that they
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  Speaker 1: are at the scene. Guys, what are we learning from
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  Speaker 1: the site that there is blood everywhere. What that's telling
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  Speaker 1: me we'd be pastrick is it's a stabbing or a shooting,
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  Speaker 1: or it could be blood object. You know. It also
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  Speaker 1: tells me that this killing took an amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, it wasn't one gunshot, it wasn't one stab.
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  Speaker 1: It was something that was prolonged over time. And that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the clues. Right from the beginning. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about ear witnesses, eyewitnesses. This was something that,
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  Speaker 1: over the course of time should have been noticed, herd seen,
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  Speaker 1: experienced by somebody else in the building. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: we learned by the amount of blood. And I have
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  Speaker 1: to agree with the doctor here. Moving the body around
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  Speaker 1: might do exactly that obscure whatever important evidence that blood
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  Speaker 1: pattern can tell us. We're about to learn a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more. Take a listen to this. Listen to me.
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  Speaker 1: When you touch how does she feel? Is she so warm?
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  Speaker 1: So cold? She feels cold? Okay, good, Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: don't touch anything else. Okay, don't touch anything. Okay, they're
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  Speaker 1: on their way. I've got police on the life seat
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  Speaker 1: and I've got to back metic on the line. Okay, please, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what room is she am he's in my room. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to go back into the living room. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I going what's going on. I'm like, okay, listen my room,
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  Speaker 1: that like was not here before. Okay, you listen, someone
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  Speaker 1: came in here. Okay, Okay, it really does. So she's saying,
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  Speaker 1: it really does look like someone has been in the room.
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  Speaker 1: We also heard earlier. Looks like she quote slid off
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  Speaker 1: the bed. Was there a rape attempt? And what does
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  Speaker 1: it say that she is already cold to the touch?
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  Speaker 1: What does I say to you, Cheryl McCollum, It's going
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  Speaker 1: to give them a time of dance, Nancy, because again
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  Speaker 1: she's already cold to the touch. There's blood everywhere. So
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  Speaker 1: the NW one one operator at this point knows what
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  Speaker 1: she's dealing with. This is not someone that is unconscious.
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  Speaker 1: This is someone that is no longer alive. So they're
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  Speaker 1: going to start their investigation at that moment and then
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  Speaker 1: back up several lives. Well tells me something completely different.
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  Speaker 1: It tells me she has been dead for a while.
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  Speaker 1: I got to figure out the last time that roommate
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  Speaker 1: saw her. I got to figure out the last time
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  Speaker 1: she was seen anywhere, and did she make a cell
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  Speaker 1: phone call, did she make a credit card transaction? Did
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  Speaker 1: she use her ATM? Did she use one of those
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  Speaker 1: cards to get in and out of a parking garage?
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  Speaker 1: Because based on cold to the touch, she has been
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  Speaker 1: dead for hours. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace two special
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  Speaker 1: guest joining US, doctor Todd M. Barr. Why do I
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  Speaker 1: care about the timeline because it helped could help reduce
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  Speaker 1: the number of suspects that would have been around her,
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Todd Barr joining us, a deputy medical examiner out
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  Speaker 1: of Cleveland. Doctor Barr, she's in a beyond air so
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  Speaker 1: we know that the apartment is probably somewhere between let's
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  Speaker 1: just say sixty nine and seventy two. How long and
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  Speaker 1: this is the scene of the crime. Based on all
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  Speaker 1: the blood, she was not killed somewhere else and dumped
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  Speaker 1: there on her bed. That didn't happen. So we know
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  Speaker 1: she's killed in the apartment. We know the approximate temperature.
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  Speaker 1: How long would that take for her body to go
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  Speaker 1: completely cold to the touch? We just learned that in
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  Speaker 1: the nine one one call. Yeah, I mean that's that
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of variables involved in that. What she
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  Speaker 1: was wearing at the time. I have a hard time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, after everything I've read about this case, the
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  Speaker 1: feeling that she was absolutely cold to the touch, I
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  Speaker 1: have a hard time believing that since it could it
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have been more than just a few hours as
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  Speaker 1: far as I understand. And the other thing that I
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  Speaker 1: just quickly wanted to mention about moving the body, um
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  Speaker 1: you know some of those things even like with blood
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  Speaker 1: spatter on the wall than blood cooling on the floor,
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  Speaker 1: Is the blood coagulated or is it still liquid? H
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  Speaker 1: are their drag marks through the blood indicating that maybe
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  Speaker 1: the body was moved at some point, and by moving
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  Speaker 1: the body to the floor and trying to attempt spe
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  Speaker 1: are those are some of the things that I was
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  Speaker 1: mentioning that might be obscured in the process. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as being cold to the touch, you know that
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  Speaker 1: would take a number of hours to get to that point.
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  Speaker 1: Did your body only decreases in temperatures like one or
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  Speaker 1: two degrees every every hour or so, so it would yes,
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  Speaker 1: juff In, and I agree with doctor Barr. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I did too, Doctor. She was only wearing a T
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  Speaker 1: shirt that was pulled up over her head, and also
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  Speaker 1: for three am the last time she was fall you
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  Speaker 1: know scene it was eleven am the next morn until
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  Speaker 1: approximately eight hours. But what I'm saying is, of course
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a JD. I'm not an m D. But doctor,
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  Speaker 1: she was already cold to the touch cold, that's what
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  Speaker 1: the roommate said. So her body had had time to
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  Speaker 1: decrease from ninety eight point six too. What would you
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  Speaker 1: say would be cold sixty sixty degrees? You know, it
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  Speaker 1: would take a lot longer than eight hours to get
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  Speaker 1: to sixty degrees. That's my only concern about Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean seventy to eighty degrees. I mean, she she could
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  Speaker 1: certainly have you know, if her murder had happened relatively,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eight hours earlier, there's a good chance she
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  Speaker 1: could be cold to the touch by the time someone
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  Speaker 1: got to her. Yep, yep. But it wouldn't have happened.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't have happened within just one or two hours prior, right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's really narrowing down the time of death. We
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  Speaker 1: know that there's blood everywhere were here, Serena Fazon describing
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  Speaker 1: that I want to know something more about the apartment
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  Speaker 1: to Connie Hedgepath. This is Fate's mother, Miss Hedgepath, what
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  Speaker 1: can you tell us about the apartment? Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: seen it? Yes, we went in it to get faith
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  Speaker 1: things at it. What kind of area? What part of
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  Speaker 1: town was it in? Good area? Bad area? What? It was?
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  Speaker 1: A good area? It was? It wasn't that far from school. Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: how many apartments have I drave from all my jut
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  Speaker 1: from one apartment to the next, trying to get cheaper
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  Speaker 1: rent around undergrad and law school. And you think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a common misperception, Doctor Angie Arnold Psychiatrists
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  Speaker 1: joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. You drop your
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  Speaker 1: children off at school or at their off campus apartment
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  Speaker 1: and it's near campus, and you think, okay, that's safe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not, you know. And also, Nancy, think about the
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  Speaker 1: fury that you're in when you're dropping your child off
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  Speaker 1: at campus. We just took my kid over to Georgia
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Tech this weekend. There are tough grinding about Georgia Tech.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm grinding about the thought I'm leaving the children go ahead, well,
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  Speaker 1: and there are just tons of kids walking around, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know, it's they're moving into a new place. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: don't think people are really paying as much attention as
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: they should to what's going on, because there's excitement and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: there's fear, and so, you know what, you don't pay
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  Speaker 1: as much attention to everybody that is a round you
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  Speaker 1: as you should. And I mean, Nancy, the cases that
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  Speaker 1: I've had of my young college students that come to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: see me, oh my god, that their apartments have been
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: broken into and whatnot. I will tell you, Wendy Patrick,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I am handing out your book to every college student
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that comes to see me. I lived in some real
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: doozies just to get the cheaper rent, and they were
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: not in safe areas. But according to Fate's mom, Connie,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and she's right by the way, this was a low
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: crime area just off campus. So you think she's safe. Okay,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So what happened? Was there a shooting? Was there stabbing?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Was there a bludgeting? Well, listen to our cut twelve
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: our friends at twenty twenty. Wouldn't police arrive? They seem
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: an empty bottle of rum. It was covered in blood,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: blood smudges. It was a brutal, brutal death that it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: seemed like there was force centry going into the apartment. No,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: there is no sign of forced entry. Seamen is also
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: discovered on Fate's body. Investigators use it to generate a
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  Speaker 1: DNA profile. They're convinced that DNA belongs to the killer
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  Speaker 1: and that he may also have perpetrated a sexual assault.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Isn't more likely than not that she was raped? Yes,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in the search for Fate's killer, that DNA profile will
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: become sort of a glass slipper, But who will fit it?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: You are hearing Chupo Hill Police Lieutenant Sealisa la Hugh
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: speaking to Ed Lopez Serena Fazon. So there was a
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: rape and the murder weapon was a rum bottle, explained,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a rum bottle, a Bacardi pinch rum bottle, Nancy, can
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you imagine? And they found, as you just heard in
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that snippet, they did find forensic evidence on that rum bottle.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: But what this indicates is that this was an extremely
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: violent attack and perhaps a personal one. Did they get
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: any finger press off the run bottle from it? As
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: far as I know, they didn't get fingerprints, but there
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: was plenty of tissue fragments and DNA on it. And Connie,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I know this is very hard to hear and would
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  Speaker 1: you apologize, but they had a lot of ay and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: tissue fragments enough to propile a pretty good portfolio. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: mean they're talking about a DNA profile. When you say portfolio, yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, not only director of the Cold Case Research
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Institute but forensic expert. The reality is this saying, this
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: guy's first time of the rodeo. Okay, this guy is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: either raped or attacked before, or he's done it. Since
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just just rapists can't help themselves, they will do it again.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee you his DNA is somewhere else to be found,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely no question about it. It actually surprises me. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: don't have other unsolved cases they matched DNA of this perpetrator.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: That's shocking unless he's in prison for something else. Crime
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're looking at all angles
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: about how this gorgeous nineteen year old unc University North
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Carolina coe ed was brutally murdered and we got one answer.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Serena Fason. She was sex attacked. Yes, she was, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: mean very badly. The detective did find demon on her body,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you know, found tissue. Frank, they found blood under her
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: under naut so she fought hard. Also on the scene.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: A mystery note take a listen to our cut thirteen
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  Speaker 1: our Friends twenty twenty. What was some of the most
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: important evidence that you collected from the bedroom? There was
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a biscay bag that was from Timeout restaurant. Timeout is
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: very popular in Chapel Hill and it's immediately identifiable. Faith
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: had gone out the night before, stopped it time out
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and brought food back to the apartment. But now that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: same bag contains five angry words. On the bag was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: some writing that said, I'm not stupid, bitch jealous? What
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: did you make of bed? Obviously big evidentiary value. The
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: note is found on the bed. It is written in pen.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Police say both the note and the pen have the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: killer's DNA on it, so police believe he wrote it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But here's a puzzle. While the room is covered in blood,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the note is not. Police say the cleanliness of the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: note suggests the killer's hands, once bloodied after using the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: bottle as a murder weapon, didn't flee immediately. Instead, he
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: may have taken his time to wash his hands and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: write that five words creed. Adding to the mystery. Police
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: can't say for sure who the note was left for.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: As to the intended target, per say about a note,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: there were two residents there, and it would make sense
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the note was left for one of them. So I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: know that was clearly placed after the murder, because everything
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: else in the room was spattered with blood, but not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the note. Take a listen to what Fate's father says,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I cut fourteen. You're listening to a voicemail that came
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: from Fate's phone on the night of the murder to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: her friend Judah Chavis. It was probably unintentional, the results
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of an accident we've all made. She's notorious for doing
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a bootdal phone call where she accidentally calls somebody with
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the phone in her pocket, So I just assumed that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: was what it was. If it sounds undecipherable to you,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you're not alone. But when we brought Roland into WTVD
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to tell us what he hears, he was unequivocal. I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you're screaming in the background. It's face boys, you're screaming,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Please get off me. Rowland's assessment is simple, his daughter
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is in grave danger. It's just my baby girl's voice,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and I know her voice. You're hearing our friend at
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Lopez at twenty twenty wt DV. Also, now take a
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Crime Watch Daily, does this
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: audio recording a pocket I'll actually record faith murder? Do
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you believe what you're listening to here? His faith being murdered? Yeah?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I do. There's a critical moment of this recording here where,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and it's it's so difficult for me to read out
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: even the transcript to you, but there's the words I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: think she's dying and do it anyhow? I feel like
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I face me in restrain a fased on what I'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: hearing it? Okay, listening listening to that? Do you recognize
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: face voice? When if she says, ow, I know it's face,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I have no no doubt? What's were face? Family cringing
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: with every graphic, brutal detail, there's the phrase I can't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: believe you did it? Rosy, Well, what are your thoughts
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on that statement? Of the mind impression is from that
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: statement is that the female of herself has done something
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: at that point two faith has hit her in the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: head or whatever. To me, it sounds like free against
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: one straight out to Connie Hedgepath, this is Fate's mother
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: joining us. That call was about two fifty nine a m.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And it seems to suggest there's more than one person there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And it also seems that she's saying it can't be
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you did it, Rosie? Who's Rosie? I have no air
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: flag idea to Serena Fazon, what are we learning from
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this cell phone? Did a garbled pocket dial from her
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: cell phone actually catch capture the sound of faith hedge
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: pass murder? What about it, Serena? Well, Hanthy, you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of debate over that phone call,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: over that very phone call, because some argue that the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: phone call was timestamped at one twenty three am, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: at that time she was at the Thrill, which is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that dance club. I know, I know Roland is convinced
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that that was during the time of her death, but
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of debates over exactly what pine
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: that phone call was taken, very very chilly, clearly though too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum way in on this cell phone call, Well,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it's obviously disturbing, but again it goes to the timeline,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: but they have got to find out exactly when that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: came through then kind of you know, there's more to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: this note to me, Nancy than the butt dial. The
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: note is there. The note is absolutely something we know
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: is connected the way it's written. The lack of blood
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: tells me one or two things. He could have cleaned
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: up and written the note afterwards, or he could have
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: brought it with him. He could have been something he
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: wrote sitting in his car washing her. So we don't
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: know when it was written, but to me that would
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: be very critical. But the words on it, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: calling the victim of bitch, saying that they're jealous. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: those are things that are very concerning. And again I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: agree with you, this is not his first rodeo. He's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: going to continue. If he's out, he's going to continue
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to harm people, you know, to Cheryl's points. To Chryl's point, Nancy,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you wonder whether or not what you share on the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: call is inconsistent with the notes. Because you have the note,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it sounds like it could be a jealous motivation, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: maybe he wrote it first, like like Cheryl was saying,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that's why there's no blood. But then if you listen
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to the call, it might not really corroborate jealousy having
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: been the motive. If there are more people there, though,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: there's more of a chance that someone's going to talk,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that somebody's going to implicate somebody else. So that's another
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: piece of evidence. You know, let us be a lesson
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to anybody that thinks that it's as easy as finding
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: DNA to find a suspect. You know, it's very difficult
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: for me to believe Wendy Patrick that with DNA from
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the semen and obviously the killer was holding a rum
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: bottle and you've got handwriting that they can't catch Fate,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the Hedge Pass skiller. Yeah, and you know, this is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: one of the things that is always challenging sometimes when
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: jurors watch too much FSI or some of these other
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: crime forensic dramas that make it seem like it's as
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: easy as finding a DNA sample and developing a subject.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: You might develop a suspect pro file, as they did
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in this case, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're going
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to finding a step right away. But this case in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the chronology shows all the other clues we have to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: keep in mind in order to bring justice to Connie Hedgepath.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: This is Fate's mother, Kanye. We talk sometimes about Fate
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: as if she were a specimen because we're really analyzing
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the evidence. I want you to tell me your most
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: vivid memory of your daughter, Faith I guess one of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the most vivid ones is the way she just territus said,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: just kind of bouncing around. You know, when she came home.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: She will always say, you know, Mamma, give me love,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and we hug each other. If we sat down and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: watch TV, she would lay on me and none we
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: just lay there together and watched TV on the sofa.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sending up and she's laying on me,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you know. And I just missed her hus you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: talking with her. Um, I just I just missed her
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: so much. And we talked about that the butt call.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of times, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: like you know, they say it was from the club,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: but in the timeline and I, you know, I had
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gotten a new phone. But I went back and looked
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: at my text message back and forth to her. Uh wait,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: you know, like back in March, and I went all
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the way back to March looking at him, and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: was noticing how the timeline, as far as the stamp
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: on my phone was totally off. Um. We didn't talk
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: at three four o'clock in the morning. And that's some
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of those timelines that I saw. And I even on
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that Sunday, Um, I wanted her to come home because
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we were meeting my son uh in Richmond. We were
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: gonna eat out for my birthday, and but she had
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to work. And so we called each other maybe four
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: times that morning, would call each other that morning, in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: that evening. But she came home that evening after we
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you know, when we got back, and she came with Krena.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: They wrote together, and she gave to my daughter's house
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and we sat there and talked, and she said, in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the floor and played with the dog, and you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and so acts when I go down to my daughter's house,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I can just see here in the floor playing with
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that doll, you know. But you know, that was the
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: last time that I saw her with such Sunday evening,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Where does the case stand? Now? Take a listen to
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: crime online Jolently. After nine years, investigators are announcing a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: major break in the Faith Hedgepeth case and a Durham,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: North Carolina man is now behind bars. That man is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: twenty eight year old Miguel Enrique Salguero Oliveries. He's charged
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: with first degree murder in Hedgepeth's death and is being
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: held without bond. For more. Here's wncntv's Mackenzie Stasco. Chapel
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Hill police aren't releasing much, but they ultimately say DNA
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: collected from the scene those nine years ago ultimately led
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: them to the suspect. Now, police would not say how
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: long Olivaris was living in Durham when he was arrested
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: today or if he knew Faith, but again say that
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the DNA collected from the scene with that they were
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: able to make a match. And Chapple Hill Police say
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: this case is far from over and that they are
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: still currently pursuing other potential leads, not ruling out other
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: people potentially involved in this case. Meanwhile, Olivari's is being
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: held in the Durham County Jail without bond. Now it's
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: interesting to note that, as Mackenzie said, investigators are not
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: closing the book on this case, going so far as
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to say they believe there are others out there that
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: could have been involved in Hedgepeth's death. Guys, if you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: have any information regarding the brutal rpe and murder this
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: unc co ed Faith Hedgepath please call nine one nine
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  Speaker 1: six one four six three six three nine one nine
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  Speaker 1: six one four sixty three sixty three We wait as
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: justice and falls. Nancy Grace, I'm story signing off, Goodbye friend,