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7/6/26: Zohran July 4th Speech, AIPAC Millions In Michigan, FIFA Corruption · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Speaker 3: Independence Day brought us dueling visions of America, one presented
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Speaker 3: by the Mayor of New York and the other presented
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Speaker 3: by the President of the United States, both triggering lots
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Speaker 3: of other Americans.
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Speaker 4: Let's roll Momdani.
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Speaker 3: To start in the Mayor of New York with a
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Speaker 3: July third address, surrounded by some recent Americans.
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Speaker 5: That legacy of every generation of Americans insisting that the
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Speaker 5: right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness extends
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Speaker 5: to them too, is no relic of the past. It
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Speaker 5: carried millions of Black Americans north during the Great Migration,
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Speaker 5: it drew hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans to New
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Speaker 5: York City. After the Second World War, it invited countless
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Speaker 5: others from the West Indies and South Asia and West
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Speaker 5: Africa and across the world. And it is what brought
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Speaker 5: my family to the city when I was seven years old.
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Speaker 5: My family did not arrive by boat, although we saw
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Speaker 5: the statue of liberty from the window of the plane.
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Speaker 5: Even from the air, we could make out the promise
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Speaker 5: of America, the promise of the beautiful, patriotic work of
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Speaker 5: rendering America year after year a little more faithful to
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Speaker 5: its founding ideals. There is a term so often used
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Speaker 5: to describe our nation and those who have shaped it,
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Speaker 5: American exceptionalism. American exceptionalism that conventional wisdom tells us makes
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Speaker 5: our freedom a little more free. As how we dug
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Speaker 5: the Erie Canal and irrigated the West is why children
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Speaker 5: in far away lands grow up dreaming of one day
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Speaker 5: moving here. And yet the irony is that the story
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Speaker 5: of America has so often been written by those who
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Speaker 5: were told by others with power and influence and wealth
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Speaker 5: that they were anything but exceptional. For generation after generation,
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Speaker 5: we have been told that when the world has sent
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Speaker 5: its people to our shores, it has not sent its best.
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Speaker 5: It sent Puritans and Sikhs, and Quakers and Muslims and
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Speaker 5: Jewish people who were banished for praying the wrong way,
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Speaker 5: worshiping the wrong gods, angering the wrong people. It sent
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Speaker 5: peasants and serfs from slums and schattles who were treated
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Speaker 5: as less because they hardly owned clothes, let alone land.
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Speaker 5: It sent immigrants from whom power was something someone else had.
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Speaker 5: We are told that America is exceptional because we are richer, stronger,
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Speaker 5: more powerful than everyone else. The truth, my friends, is
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Speaker 5: that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place.
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Speaker 5: The frontier may be closed, we may have walked on
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Speaker 5: the moon, but the work of fulfilling the values first
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Speaker 5: enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. That work endures, and
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Speaker 5: it belongs.
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Speaker 4: To us all.
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Speaker 5: It belongs to to our newest Americans, those standing here
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Speaker 5: with me today, all of whom were recently naturalized. Nearly
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Speaker 5: a decade ago, I too felt what you feel, the
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Speaker 5: joy of no longer being just a New Yorker, but
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Speaker 5: an American too. You each hold a special power, the
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Speaker 5: power to determine what America means.
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Speaker 3: President Trump, meanwhile, for some reason, waited until after eleven pm.
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Speaker 6: Basically, the weather was so bad here in DC. It
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Speaker 6: was raining, it's humid.
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Speaker 4: You didn't have a roof somewhere.
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Speaker 7: People have been out on the mall forever on the
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Speaker 7: fourth of July, and so they delayed the fireworks. Although
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Speaker 7: there still was lightning during the fireworks. It was a
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Speaker 7: pretty It was kind of cool, but it was like
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Speaker 7: a very chaotic and dangerous situation.
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Speaker 4: It was. And also this guy kills me. Fireworks are
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Speaker 4: basically for.
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Speaker 3: Children, right, I mean, adults think they're cool for like
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Speaker 3: five minutes, but it's really for the family and for
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Speaker 3: the kids.
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Speaker 4: You started them at midnight. It was wrong with you.
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Speaker 4: And one reason they started midnight is because Trump had
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Speaker 4: to give a speech.
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Speaker 6: Why forty minute speech?
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Speaker 7: Well, all of the musical acts canceled and after that
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Speaker 7: Trump said, all right, I'm just gonna I.
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Speaker 6: Was going to do it last.
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Speaker 3: They said, we have the greatest performer with the biggest paw,
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Speaker 3: So what do we need all these you know, these
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Speaker 3: has been.
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Speaker 7: Who didn't know they'd been booked, was basically the story.
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Speaker 7: And some of them, yeah, anyway, So.
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Speaker 3: Trump played the hits for us here. Let's roll some Trump.
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Speaker 8: He vanquished fascism, Americans against the evil of communism in
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Speaker 8: the Cold War. And as they said last night at
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Speaker 8: the beautiful Mount Rushmore, what a beautiful place where Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln,
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Speaker 8: and Theodore Roosevelt loomed over my shoulder as I spoke,
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Speaker 8: America will never be a communist country.
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Speaker 6: Won't happen.
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Speaker 8: Communism is a loser and it always will be. The
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Speaker 8: communist system is the opposite of the American system. And
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Speaker 8: the communist system has never worked. Warriors did not fight
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Speaker 8: communism on battlefields across the world only to have that
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Speaker 8: menace rear its ugly head right back here in America.
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Speaker 6: We're not going to let it happen.
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Speaker 8: We'd like to stop a threat like that immediately and
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Speaker 8: before it begins, just like a cancer, you got to
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Speaker 8: cut it out. You got to cut it out fast.
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Speaker 3: Now, hold on, we got a fact check. He says
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Speaker 3: we fought communism on the battlefield. We have met communism
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Speaker 3: on the battlefield in Vietnam, Korea.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the more overt conflicts.
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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe we want to say Angola or
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Speaker 3: Central America. Where did we beat communism on the battlefield?
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Speaker 7: Where did we beat it? The question that is not
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Speaker 7: where we met it, but we met it.
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Speaker 3: He says we beat them, right or did he just
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Speaker 3: say we fought them? He didn't mention and YadA YadA, YadA.
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Speaker 7: Well, we fought them.
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Speaker 4: We definitely fought them.
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Speaker 6: He listen. I obviously we.
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Speaker 3: Won the Cold War. You can say that, but that's
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Speaker 3: a battle feeling right right, right right? Or did we Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's just China. Still, this was forgot about China.
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Speaker 7: Well, he just referenced the speech that he gave the
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Speaker 7: day before at Mount Rushmore. He may have also mentioned
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Speaker 7: the like communist threat when he was doing the Teddy
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Speaker 7: Roosevelt Library opening. But what was rolled out this weekend
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Speaker 7: after zaramm Danni, after the Dializa victory, the milak Kiro's victory.
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Speaker 7: Clearly they have poll tested communism instead of socialism. And
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Speaker 7: that's the significance of bringing both of these speeches together
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Speaker 7: in the same place, because clearly they just started testing this.
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Speaker 7: And I honestly like to the extent that I don't
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Speaker 7: think we talk quite enough and audience members will hate
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Speaker 7: me for saying this, but quite enough about some of
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Speaker 7: the history of communism in the twentieth century.
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Speaker 6: This is the politics of this.
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Speaker 7: I'm not sure are going to resonate, actually, and I
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Speaker 7: would question their poll testing of just turning people who
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Speaker 7: are saying politically things about, well, our democratic socialism is
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Speaker 7: just medica for all, and you know like that. I
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Speaker 7: don't know that turning them into the communists are trying
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Speaker 7: to transmogrify democratic socialism into communism in the American imagination
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Speaker 7: actually is the best political maneuver, which was interesting.
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Speaker 6: I see it.
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Speaker 4: I don't see how it would work.
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Speaker 3: Bannon doesn't seem to think so either, Right, So let's
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Speaker 3: let's roll Steve Bannon here.
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Speaker 9: I want to talk about the labor participation rate. That
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Speaker 9: essentially means basically thirty nine percent or thirty nine almost
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Speaker 9: forty percent of people eligible to work or out of
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Speaker 9: the labor force. Why do you think the marxisty hottest
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Speaker 9: are getting traction and men Domi's not ten feet high.
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Speaker 9: Don't believe that at all. In fact, I think he's
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Speaker 9: got He potentially has feet of clay if you move
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Speaker 9: and moves smartly. But here's what you can't do, Republicans
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Speaker 9: in the pundit class. He's got a ton of pundits.
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Speaker 9: You can't take a copy of Milton Friedman and throw
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Speaker 9: it at him or Atlas Shrugged. You're going to go
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Speaker 9: back to the Paul Ryan and to all the playbook
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Speaker 9: at Ted Cruz's entire crowd. This is how you got
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Speaker 9: in this jam. You're not going to take Atlas Shrug
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Speaker 9: and throw it at him. You're not going to take
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Speaker 9: Milton Friedman's but freedom and capitalism throw it at him.
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Speaker 4: That's not going to work.
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Speaker 9: Why is it not going to work? Because the elites
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Speaker 9: in this country have sold the country out all this
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Speaker 9: garbage and talk about free trade and free trade and
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Speaker 9: free trade, and you had a mercantilist system run by
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Speaker 9: real hardcore communists in China, of which the American business
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Speaker 9: community and most of the Republican donors underwrote to take
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Speaker 9: your jobs. This is why this entire situation is like
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Speaker 9: a Greek tragedy, and that the great strength of our
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Speaker 9: hero turns out to be his core weakness.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right.
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Speaker 3: And the main the thing I've seen thrown at Mam
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Speaker 3: Donnie is this Paul Ryan line makers makers versus takers,
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Speaker 3: which is which was lame when Paul Ryan was doing it,
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Speaker 3: and they're like, Mam Donnie is a taker, and it
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Speaker 3: puts it puts the speaker in the position of saying
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Speaker 3: that they're the maker, that they're they're the ones that
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Speaker 3: are you know, we're the boss where we built the factory,
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Speaker 3: we built this. You're just taking from us, You're just leeches.
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Speaker 3: It's unpatriotic in the sense that it's it's denigrating, you know,
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Speaker 3: huge swaths of the of the country. And it doesn't
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Speaker 3: really delineate where the takers begin, like our union workers
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Speaker 3: takers because they're organizing together for bigger wages that you
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Speaker 3: think if they weren't organizing for that would just be
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Speaker 3: money that the bosses, the owners of the factory would
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Speaker 3: be able to take home. They certainly think at all
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Speaker 3: public service workers or takers. And so yeah, for Bannon,
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Speaker 3: he's like, no, this is you need a different playbook,
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Speaker 3: Like you try that and here we are.
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Speaker 4: So what do you think is like what would you
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Speaker 4: throw at them?
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Speaker 3: What you were you have deming the way Paul Ryan's
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Speaker 3: God forbid.
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Speaker 7: The way that they don't see it is they think
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Speaker 7: they can say this is going to be such a disaster.
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Speaker 7: But people think the status quo is a disaster. And
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Speaker 7: so if you are just saying what's going to happen
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Speaker 7: is going to be a disaster, it doesn't work anymore
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Speaker 7: because people feel like we are in a disaster, and
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Speaker 7: a lot of people do.
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying everybody does.
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Speaker 7: There's some people who have very comfortable lives and probably
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Speaker 7: still will be moved by the Paul Ryan language, but
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Speaker 7: it's not everyone, and it's not most people anymore. If
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Speaker 7: you're looking at polling about how socialism fares with young
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Speaker 7: people or public opinion of socialism with younger Americans particularly,
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Speaker 7: it's really not that much of a political win to
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Speaker 7: just be like, oh, Ryan Grimm's is socialist. They're like, oh, interesting,
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Speaker 7: tell me what you want to do to make my
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Speaker 7: life easier. And so you have to proactively explain what
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Speaker 7: you're going to do that's not the status quo. You
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Speaker 7: can't just be like that guy's a commie, that guy's
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Speaker 7: a socialist. You actually have to have a positive vision
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Speaker 7: for what would transform the status quo, which is what
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Speaker 7: the socialists are doing now.
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Speaker 6: I thought the optics.
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Speaker 7: I actually thought the Mamdani speech itself was really, really
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Speaker 7: really interesting. Like I pulled up the transcript here and
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Speaker 7: I'm looking at it, and if I just read this,
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Speaker 7: I think it would be a fun experiment to just
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Speaker 7: go out in the street and read this to some
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Speaker 7: people and be like, who do you think gave this speech?
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Speaker 6: I mean, listen this, he says.
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Speaker 7: Here at City Hall, as I sit behind George Washington's
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Speaker 7: desk alongside New Americans who came to this country, I
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Speaker 7: cannot see all of America, but like so many who
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Speaker 7: came before, I can.
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Speaker 6: See New York City. Then he goes on to tell
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Speaker 6: this story of the founding of the country.
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Speaker 7: In July seventeen seventy six, our city simmered under the
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Speaker 7: yoke of oppression.
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Speaker 6: The British didn't take a while war broke out.
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Speaker 7: He's like literally talking about George Washington leaving Brooklyn. It
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Speaker 7: sounds like Glenn Beck in the tea party ear like
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Speaker 7: talking about colonial oppression.
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Speaker 6: And I thought the optics of the speech.
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Speaker 7: He's usually so much better optically, it was kind of
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Speaker 7: like a dull aesthetic and nobody the New Americans that
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Speaker 7: were behind him weren't smiling. I actually thought some of
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Speaker 7: the criticisms of the aesthetics of it were on, and
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Speaker 7: it's a rare aestheticness from Zoron. But the speech itself
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Speaker 7: was potent, Like there was something in that that tells.
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Speaker 6: You this is a totally new generator.
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Speaker 7: The guy who was flipping off Columbus when he was
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Speaker 7: wearing a glove during COVID famously in his like twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty posts, is here saying I'm sitting behind George Washington's
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Speaker 7: desk and telling the history of us fighting off the
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Speaker 7: yoke of British oppression, and is like being reverential about
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Speaker 7: our founding ideals. As he put it, that is a
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Speaker 7: totally different generation of democratic socialism.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people who were triggered
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Speaker 3: by the speech didn't actually listen to it agree completely
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Speaker 3: because they're like, yeah, he's just trashing America.
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Speaker 4: It's like, actually, he's not. You picked up a good part.
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Speaker 4: We can roll. Let's roll. This is how he ended
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Speaker 4: the speech. And you tell me if this sounds like
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Speaker 4: somebody who's trashing the country.
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Speaker 5: Ours is a nation working each day towards the perfection
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Speaker 5: in which it was conceived, a nation striving each day
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Speaker 5: to better itself. Therein lies the work of America. The striving,
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Speaker 5: the bettering, the reaching towards perfection. What a privilege each
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Speaker 5: of us has to live in a nation that every
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Speaker 5: one of its inhabitants can shape. What a responsibility each
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Speaker 5: of us possesses to prove ourselves worthy of all those
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Speaker 5: who came before. What power each of us holds to
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Speaker 5: bring America ever closer to the greatness so many have
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Speaker 5: seen when they looked upon these shores, the greatness that,
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Speaker 5: for two hundred and fifty years has been America.
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Speaker 4: Thank you. I mean, how's that anti Americans? It's very
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Speaker 4: Frederick Douglas.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the clips from the right were saying, here's Zaramamdanni
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Speaker 7: taking the opportunity to criticize the United States on the
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Speaker 7: four of July, and that's how the R and C
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Speaker 7: was framing it and Republican groups were framing it. But interestingly,
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Speaker 7: on the left Zoron himself, the clips that were coming
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Speaker 7: out were positive about America, which is kind of fascinating
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Speaker 7: because there's so I pulled up poll numbers. The Cato
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Speaker 7: Institute just did an interesting poll, and as Democratic socialists
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Speaker 7: are trying to go national, when you look at polling,
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Speaker 7: overwhelming majorities CATO rights are grateful for the country eighty
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Speaker 7: six percent, and proud to be Americans seventy nine percent.
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Speaker 7: Most also believe America is a land of opportunities sixty
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Speaker 7: one percent, and even more believe the American Dream seventy
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Speaker 7: four percent is available to them personally.
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Speaker 6: Now you get different.
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Speaker 7: Poll results if you test like whether people think the
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Speaker 7: American Dream is dead or alive. But that's when you
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Speaker 7: ask people if it's available to them personally. Seventy six
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Speaker 7: percent say they're positive about the nation's founding. Zora Mamdani
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Speaker 7: was positive about the nation's founding, talking about the ideals,
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Speaker 7: not like wallowing in George Washington as a slave owner,
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Speaker 7: which is a real part of the history shouldn't be ignored.
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Speaker 7: But when you're celebrating the fourth of July, it's kind
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Speaker 7: of appropriate to focus on the ideals. And that's exactly
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Speaker 7: what he did in a country where the polling people do.
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Speaker 7: If you want to take democratic socialism out of Brooklyn
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Speaker 7: and the Commy Corridor into the rest of the country,
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Speaker 7: this is the messaging that is much much sharper, more
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Speaker 7: clever to strike.
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Speaker 3: And what he did which I loved, which was that
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Speaker 3: he said the thing that is standing between us and
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Speaker 3: the perfection of the American ideals is the billionaire class
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Speaker 3: that wants to divide us, wants to keep us fighting
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Speaker 3: so that we can't reach our common destiny together. So
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Speaker 3: he connects the founding of the country with an idealistic
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Speaker 3: vision and identifies the obstacle to achieving that vision accurately
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Speaker 3: as this billionaire Epstein class. And so then the task
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Speaker 3: at hand for the American people is clear, get them
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Speaker 3: out of their way and we can reach our destiny.
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Speaker 3: Like let's start tacting a little bit of their wealth
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Speaker 3: and start building the thing that we all want together.
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Speaker 3: Let's also and to ban his point people they're saying,
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Speaker 3: go ahead, let Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz argue against that.
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Speaker 7: I'll say the Trump speech he gave like everyone was
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Speaker 7: just ready for fireworks at that point, it was so late,
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Speaker 7: it was about to bust out into rain. He gave
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Speaker 7: like a forty minute speech, some of it where he
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Speaker 7: brought out these veterans I think one of them was
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Speaker 7: one hundred and seven years old. Just incredible for them
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Speaker 7: to then have the camera out. We had the camera
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Speaker 7: on them as they were watching the fireworks. That was
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Speaker 7: super fascinating and moving to watch but it was chaotic
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Speaker 7: on the National Mall.
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Speaker 6: See four. Let's play a little bit of this.
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Speaker 7: You can see what it looked like on the mall
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Speaker 7: as people were for waiting for fireworks. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 7: this was like earlier in the evening, so they had
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Speaker 7: evacuated the mall. At one point in the afternoon or
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Speaker 7: early evening, they canceled the whole parade. Like imagine the
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Speaker 7: money and the months like year plus that went into
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Speaker 7: organizing the parade. Canceled it because it was too hot,
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Speaker 7: and then people tried to get back in, and you
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Speaker 7: can see that in the later in the evening as
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Speaker 7: people are trying to get back into the mall for
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Speaker 7: the fireworks.
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Speaker 6: Trump actually opened his.
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Speaker 7: Speech by talking about how there had been some like
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Speaker 7: three hundred four hundred thousand people evacuated and now there
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Speaker 7: were almost I think he said, like two hundred thousand
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Speaker 7: people that were there.
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Speaker 6: He started literally by.
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Speaker 7: Talking about the numbers to address it in case anybody
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Speaker 7: was thinking, wow, that crowd looks small. He wanted to
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Speaker 7: get it out of the way right away before even
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Speaker 7: getting into the speech. We had many more people, but
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Speaker 7: you know, the rain and all of that, but they
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Speaker 7: didn't have a contingency plan for any of this. They
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Speaker 7: haven't had contingency plans for the Great American State Fair,
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Speaker 7: where Julian actually from jobsite was reporting. I think on Saturday,
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Speaker 7: after Friday's heat, there were seven people on critical life
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Speaker 7: support in the hospital fair.
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Speaker 6: And that's East coast wide.
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Speaker 7: I mean the actually like nationwide, the heat has been
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Speaker 7: just insane over the last couple of weeks, but the
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Speaker 7: state Fair was proceeding. They evacuated that the Great American
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Speaker 7: State Fair, in the National Mall was evacuated on Friday
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Speaker 7: for heat reasons, and they didn't have a contingency plan,
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Speaker 7: Like there weren't what I heard from people who were
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Speaker 7: out there, there weren't like misters that were keeping people cool.
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Speaker 4: No, and they were banning water. You couldn't bring water in.
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Speaker 6: You had to buy it inside.
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Speaker 3: Right, what kind of country is this? It's a public
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Speaker 3: state fair, public event, a security thing.
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Speaker 4: You're right, right for this?
18:26
Speaker 6: Well, I think you're right.
18:27
Speaker 7: They should have break death, they should have opened it
18:29
Speaker 7: up like it actually all just should have been a
18:31
Speaker 7: roving coming in and out. Obviously security challenges, but it's
18:34
Speaker 7: the National Mall.
18:35
Speaker 3: It's the National Mall, and they had, They had no
18:38
Speaker 3: real way to evacuate the people from the mall once
18:42
Speaker 3: the lightning started.
18:43
Speaker 4: What they should have done is told.
18:44
Speaker 3: Them that Mike Pence was done the Capitol, he was
18:48
Speaker 3: about to count the Electoral College. I don't think I
18:51
Speaker 3: would have cleared them out immediately.
18:52
Speaker 7: I don't think there were enough FBI people in the crowd.
18:55
Speaker 6: Get them over there.
18:56
Speaker 3: They were all prepping for their Patriot Front march the
18:59
Speaker 3: next day.
19:00
Speaker 7: There was a hilariously pathetic Patriot Front march on the
19:03
Speaker 7: fourth of July.
19:04
Speaker 4: I wanted to join. They wanted to join the parade.
19:06
Speaker 6: The parade.
19:06
Speaker 4: They were going to try to disrupt the parade.
19:09
Speaker 6: Right Patriot Front, which almost certainly is listen.
19:11
Speaker 7: I don't actually think January sixth was offence directually.
19:13
Speaker 6: That was a little joke.
19:14
Speaker 7: Having reported on it live on the ground as it
19:16
Speaker 7: was happening, it was like a lot of normal people
19:18
Speaker 7: who just got whipped into a frenzy. Some of the
19:20
Speaker 7: people who were whipping were probably FEDS, but not everybody was.
19:23
Speaker 7: And in this case the Patriot Front guys, I mean
19:27
Speaker 7: it looked like it looked like a FED festival, a festival.
19:31
Speaker 6: It was crazy. They're all out there.
19:33
Speaker 7: With their net gators preparing with like their flags, chanting
19:37
Speaker 7: weird stuff.
19:38
Speaker 4: I had to go on the metro instead because it
19:41
Speaker 4: was too hot. Yeah.
19:42
Speaker 7: Wild scenes on the fourth of July, America's two hundred
19:45
Speaker 7: and fiftieth birthday here in Washington, DC did not go
19:48
Speaker 7: exactly as the Trump administration had planned.
19:50
Speaker 6: Ryan, did you watch the fireworks?
19:52
Speaker 4: I did.
19:53
Speaker 10: I did.
19:54
Speaker 4: We stayed up. I was on a rooftop.
19:56
Speaker 3: But then about twenty minutes in like okay, like fifteen
20:02
Speaker 3: twenty minutes, and I'm like, okay, I get it. Like
20:04
Speaker 3: they did this kind of spectacular thing where for this
20:08
Speaker 3: entire row along like I think it was along the Potomac,
20:10
Speaker 3: they'd have like a dozen fireworks go up simultaneously and
20:14
Speaker 3: create this row.
20:15
Speaker 4: They're like, wow, that's.
20:16
Speaker 3: Like cost millions of dollars, no doubt, but that's looks
20:21
Speaker 3: really cool.
20:22
Speaker 4: And then they did it again and again and again.
20:26
Speaker 3: It was long and again. I asked my friend. I
20:29
Speaker 3: texted my friend. I was like, how is the finale?
20:30
Speaker 3: Because we left before it. He's like, it was just
20:32
Speaker 3: a giant cloud of smoke.
20:33
Speaker 6: That's exactly what it was. Yeah.
20:36
Speaker 3: Well, in Trump's defense, who knew that fireworks create a
20:40
Speaker 3: lot of smoke.
20:41
Speaker 6: It's hard to predict that.
20:42
Speaker 3: It's very hard to predict that wouldn't have seen that coming.
20:45
Speaker 3: Speaking of though, the stupidest person on the planet. I
20:48
Speaker 3: didn't want to leave this second without talking about form
20:51
Speaker 3: Jill Biden spokesperson Michael L.
20:53
Speaker 4: Rossa, who I think had the He's.
20:55
Speaker 7: Been on the show by the way, as he Yeah,
20:56
Speaker 7: Crystal and I interviewed him.
20:57
Speaker 4: Amazing he had.
20:59
Speaker 3: He had most amazing comment about Mom Donnie's speech two
21:03
Speaker 3: months shy of the twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven.
21:08
Speaker 3: This is what New York City's mayor has to say
21:11
Speaker 3: about the fourth of July.
21:12
Speaker 4: Mom Donnie is unwell.
21:15
Speaker 3: Unwell, And you're like, wait a minute, hold on, first
21:20
Speaker 3: of all, it's two months and a week shy of
21:22
Speaker 3: nine to eleven, nine to eleven, Like what is.
21:28
Speaker 4: So?
21:29
Speaker 3: I want to know what is the window around September
21:34
Speaker 3: eleventh where a Muslim has to be like conscious of
21:38
Speaker 3: what they're saying about New York City? Is it three months?
21:42
Speaker 3: So so every from June through I guess like September, October, November,
21:47
Speaker 3: December maybe into January. So June into January basically, but
21:54
Speaker 3: then if you get into February, like you're getting close
21:57
Speaker 3: to the sixth month by annual anniversary of nine to eleven,
22:01
Speaker 3: so you got to be careful around that time too.
22:05
Speaker 3: It's like, how did you bring nine to eleven into this?
22:09
Speaker 3: I don't you know, absolutely, I don't know.
22:12
Speaker 4: I don't know.
22:14
Speaker 7: Speaking of absolute morons, let's talk about the Michigan Senate race.
22:18
Speaker 7: There we go, surprising news out of the Michigan Democratic
22:23
Speaker 7: Senate primary yesterday, as again it's a Sunday, and Mallory
22:27
Speaker 7: mcmorro suspended her campaign for the Michigan Senate Democratic nomination.
22:33
Speaker 7: Let's take a listen to her announcement video today.
22:36
Speaker 11: I'm announcing that I am suspending my campaign for United
22:39
Speaker 11: States Senate, and I'm doing it with a deep, deep
22:42
Speaker 11: sense of gratitude for our thousands of volunteers, for everyone
22:47
Speaker 11: who donated what you could building a campaign with zero
22:50
Speaker 11: corporate pack dollars.
22:52
Speaker 7: Okay, that was like the consultant focus group tested candidate
22:56
Speaker 7: in this race, who I think a lot of consultant
23:00
Speaker 7: types on the left ryn they thought with Mallard mcmorro,
23:03
Speaker 7: who initially went viral for pushing back on quote unquote
23:08
Speaker 7: book bands, which actually it was a lot of Muslims
23:12
Speaker 7: in Michigan that we're upset about. It was a lot
23:13
Speaker 7: of Christians, a lot of Muslims as well. But she
23:15
Speaker 7: went viral during the pandemic era because people were saying,
23:19
Speaker 7: here we have this normal Michigan mom making a kind
23:24
Speaker 7: of inspirational left argument against this and look, she seems
23:29
Speaker 7: like a normal soccer mom, and we might be able
23:32
Speaker 7: to take her all the way to the Senate. She's
23:34
Speaker 7: actually lived in California right before moving to Michigan. I
23:37
Speaker 7: think maybe her husban's for Michigan or something like that.
23:39
Speaker 6: But anyway, vote for Gawker, right, did she think so?
23:43
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
23:43
Speaker 7: After all of that, Malar mcmorro suspended her Senate campaign.
23:48
Speaker 7: Let's take a look at this throwback conversation between Emma
23:51
Speaker 7: Viigland and Malar mcmorroe on Medicare for all.
23:55
Speaker 10: A public option is an improvement, of course on the
23:57
Speaker 10: private marketplace and the affordable care, but that would still
24:01
Speaker 10: involve premiums and deductibles. Why not go all the way
24:04
Speaker 10: to medicare for all?
24:05
Speaker 12: Yeah, I hear you on the vision, I one hundred
24:08
Speaker 12: percent do.
24:10
Speaker 13: And what I know, after almost a decade, as experience
24:13
Speaker 13: in a legislator is that you need to push as
24:17
Speaker 13: far as you possibly can while building the coalition of
24:20
Speaker 13: votes to actually get it across the line. And the
24:25
Speaker 13: support for a true single payer system isn't there yet.
24:30
Speaker 10: I think that when we're talking about how to keep
24:33
Speaker 10: a coalition together, the seventy seven percent of Democrats that
24:36
Speaker 10: think Israel's committing genocide, the ninety percent of Democrats that
24:41
Speaker 10: do that have a negative view of Israel or don't
24:43
Speaker 10: want to send them more money, that would, I would imagine,
24:46
Speaker 10: be the position that would be as unifying as possible,
24:51
Speaker 10: because it appears like this is kind of a consensus
24:54
Speaker 10: opinion now within the Democratic base.
24:57
Speaker 12: I mean, I hear that it's reflective in polls, and
25:01
Speaker 12: reading polls and asserting how campaign should be run based
25:04
Speaker 12: off of polls is not a way that you win
25:09
Speaker 12: in a state like ours.
25:10
Speaker 6: Well, I hear that, I hear the vision.
25:12
Speaker 7: She's so so acting, and you just get from her
25:17
Speaker 7: that she's artificial. I'm sorry, I'm really going in on
25:19
Speaker 7: Mellie mcmaurrow. I can't stand her, But it's more that
25:21
Speaker 7: I can't stand.
25:22
Speaker 4: The cat drives you crazy because it's.
25:24
Speaker 6: The consultant class.
25:25
Speaker 7: I was going to say, like, what drives me crazier
25:26
Speaker 7: than mcmorro is that the consultant class looks at that
25:29
Speaker 7: and says, this is what we'll connect with normal people
25:33
Speaker 7: in Michigan. This is how we make our democratic agenda
25:36
Speaker 7: look palatable to people in Michigan. She's inauthentically Michigan. It's
25:41
Speaker 7: just I'm not from Michigan, from Wisconsin, so I don't give.
25:44
Speaker 6: Like I'm not I can't speak for Michigan.
25:46
Speaker 7: But it's just like, come on, like it just drives
25:48
Speaker 7: me crazy because it's like that we're ten plus years
25:51
Speaker 7: in the Trump phenomenon and that's what they're coming up
25:55
Speaker 7: with and thinking that.
25:55
Speaker 6: It's going to work.
25:57
Speaker 3: You know, ironically, it may have if not for el
26:00
Speaker 3: said running to running to her left, because Haley Stevens
26:04
Speaker 3: running in the establishment lane was such a and is
26:07
Speaker 3: such a flawed candidate that she would have I think
26:10
Speaker 3: been a lot more appealing compared to Compared to Stevens.
26:13
Speaker 7: At least she sounds like she's from Michigan, and Abdul
26:17
Speaker 7: I think comes across as much more of like a
26:18
Speaker 7: Michigander too, Like he just seems to be much more
26:22
Speaker 7: fluent in Michigan than.
26:24
Speaker 3: And mcmorroe had the endorsement of Elizabeth Warren and kind
26:27
Speaker 3: of ran in that Elizabeth Warren lane, and it'll be
26:29
Speaker 3: very interesting to see what Warren does. She's much closer
26:32
Speaker 3: obviously to el Sid's politics, so she goes out with
26:35
Speaker 3: AOC and Bernie and campaigns that could be that could
26:39
Speaker 3: be decisive. There's this there's been a lot of pressure
26:43
Speaker 3: on McMorrow to drop out and endorse Stevens, to try
26:46
Speaker 3: to stop Elside from everything.
26:49
Speaker 4: We gather. McMorrow is no fan of Hailey Stevens, so
26:52
Speaker 4: if she.
26:53
Speaker 3: Does that, it will be as a favor to the
26:56
Speaker 3: party establishment with the party bosses, not because she herself
27:00
Speaker 3: kind is a huge fan of Haley Stevens. There was
27:03
Speaker 3: a Politico report that Elside immediately called McMorrow thanked her
27:08
Speaker 3: for running because now everybody's going to be trying to
27:12
Speaker 3: court her and her supporters, but that Stevens didn't well
27:15
Speaker 3: until the Politico reached out.
27:17
Speaker 6: As soon as Politico reached out, that's what happened. Let's
27:19
Speaker 6: skip ahead to D five.
27:21
Speaker 7: This is from prem Thacker, who posted from Zteo, who
27:25
Speaker 7: posted Haley Stevens makes no outreach to Malory McMorris supporters,
27:28
Speaker 7: while Abdul el said explicitly welcomes them to his movement.
27:31
Speaker 6: Put out a press release right away.
27:32
Speaker 7: The El said campaign and said, throughout this campaign, Center
27:36
Speaker 7: MCMA showed what it looks like to fight back against
27:38
Speaker 7: the politics that rigs the system against too many of us.
27:41
Speaker 7: While we have policy disagreements, I never questioned whether Senator
27:43
Speaker 7: mcmorro would fight for a better America for my daughters
27:46
Speaker 7: and hers goes on to say, welcome her supporters to
27:49
Speaker 7: our movement and stand up again to stand up against
27:51
Speaker 7: money in politics. Finally, a couple other things we wanted
27:54
Speaker 7: to mention here, the polling and the ad spending. This
27:57
Speaker 7: is according to Ad Impact Politics AD reservations as of
28:01
Speaker 7: July first three hundred and I'm sorry, thirty four point
28:04
Speaker 7: four million reserve for Haley Stevens, eight point nine million
28:07
Speaker 7: reserve for Malar McMorrow, two point eight million reserved for
28:11
Speaker 7: Abdul l Sayed. And then finally, the Real Clear Politics
28:14
Speaker 7: average as of yesterday we can pop up on the screen.
28:18
Speaker 6: This is for the al Saied campaign.
28:21
Speaker 7: I mean they were at thirty five point zero in
28:23
Speaker 7: a three way race between Stevens, who was at twenty
28:25
Speaker 7: nine point seven, and mcmarrow who was only at seven
28:28
Speaker 7: point seven. So where that seven point seven goes that
28:33
Speaker 7: is obviously determinative because if it all goes to one
28:38
Speaker 7: or the other, if it goes to Stevens, you're basically
28:41
Speaker 7: in a tie. And if it goes to el sayed,
28:43
Speaker 7: the race is totally different. And he's a really really
28:46
Speaker 7: comfortable lead. He's up five point three points in the
28:49
Speaker 7: RCP average right now, and recent polling is all from June,
28:53
Speaker 7: so it's not like it's sparse like that's a pretty
28:55
Speaker 7: good indication of where the voters are.
28:57
Speaker 4: Yes.
28:57
Speaker 3: And by the way, what's let's not leave without identifying
29:01
Speaker 3: the wild thing that happened in this race that you're
29:04
Speaker 3: probably not going to hear about from like CNN or
29:08
Speaker 3: the New York Times as they cover this development. But
29:11
Speaker 3: if you watched it in real time, you saw it happen.
29:14
Speaker 3: And that was that. In March, the mcmorroll campaign decided,
29:20
Speaker 3: and the Stevens campaign as well, but mcmorroll really taking
29:23
Speaker 3: the lead on it, decided to make son Piker Yes
29:27
Speaker 3: a major part of the campaign, as Abdul said had
29:30
Speaker 3: said he was going to campaign with with Piker, the
29:33
Speaker 3: twitch twitch leftist twitch streamer, and mcmorroll comes out and
29:38
Speaker 3: slams him and says compared a son Piker to Nick
29:41
Speaker 3: Fuentes that that was what mcmorroe did.
29:45
Speaker 7: And in a state, by the way, where you're running
29:48
Speaker 7: in a primary, a Democratic primary, which means you have
29:50
Speaker 7: to have grassroots and young voters. It's a state with
29:53
Speaker 7: a bunch of young Muslims that are involved in the
29:55
Speaker 7: grassroots at the Democratic primary level.
29:58
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:59
Speaker 3: And at the time that she did this, the race
30:01
Speaker 3: had been pretty stable for months, and that was Stevens
30:06
Speaker 3: with a slight lead over McMorrow, and then Elsayad a
30:11
Speaker 3: couple of points behind. They were all in the twenties,
30:15
Speaker 3: but with Stevens in the lead. And as the weeks
30:22
Speaker 3: go by and the major focus of the race becomes
30:27
Speaker 3: this question of Hassan Piker, which then evolves into the
30:31
Speaker 3: question of where the different candidates stand on the question
30:34
Speaker 3: of arming Israel and whether or not they're willing to
30:36
Speaker 3: call out it's genocide, it begins to become apparent to
30:41
Speaker 3: voters what's going on here, and that Elsaiad is the
30:45
Speaker 3: progressive left laying candidate. Like it really cemented that idea
30:50
Speaker 3: in people's minds, and McMorrow by comparing some Hassan Piker
30:55
Speaker 3: t Fuentes, came off as cynical and dishonest because nobody,
31:03
Speaker 3: like nobody who knows anything about the two of them
31:06
Speaker 3: thinks that there's any similarity between them other than they're
31:09
Speaker 3: both critical of Israel. Nick this is an outspoken white
31:13
Speaker 3: supremacist or white nationalist or whatever he says.
31:16
Speaker 4: He is supremacist, whatever. He's not a Bier.
31:21
Speaker 3: He's a completely different political animal on the far right.
31:26
Speaker 4: And so.
31:28
Speaker 3: It destroyed her campaign like that alone. Third Way went
31:33
Speaker 3: to the New York Times and they made this like
31:35
Speaker 3: third Way is this corporate centrist group saying that that
31:38
Speaker 3: the tent needs to be drawn such that Hassan Piker
31:41
Speaker 3: is out of the tent. And they launched this campaign
31:44
Speaker 3: with the New York Times and CNN and all these others.
31:46
Speaker 3: Jake Tapper doing programming a program about it, Fox News
31:50
Speaker 3: covering it every single day, and the lines were drawn
31:54
Speaker 3: and it's mcmorro that was pushed out of it because
31:59
Speaker 3: people were pushed on the question, and when they weren't
32:03
Speaker 3: pushed on the question, well, and.
32:04
Speaker 7: Hailey Stephens is already in the race, like, you're not
32:06
Speaker 7: going to out Haley Stevens. Haley Stevens, that's impossible.
32:09
Speaker 3: And mcmorroe had the strategy going in that she was
32:13
Speaker 3: going to try to keep and it's kind of it's
32:16
Speaker 3: messed up how you have to strategize around a pack.
32:19
Speaker 3: But her goal was not to win APAX support because
32:22
Speaker 3: she knew that wouldn't be possible because Stevens had beaten
32:26
Speaker 3: Andy Levin with millions of dollars in APAC support. She
32:30
Speaker 3: was clearly APAX candidate in a previous race, so it
32:35
Speaker 3: was very unlikely that mcmorroe was going to become APAX candidate.
32:38
Speaker 3: But what she wanted to do is persuade APAC to
32:41
Speaker 3: stay out of.
32:44
Speaker 4: The of the race.
32:46
Speaker 3: Just let us fight this out and then we'll see
32:49
Speaker 3: you in the general see you in the general election.
32:51
Speaker 3: To that end, and this is where dropsite played a
32:53
Speaker 3: role in this election. To that end, one of her
32:57
Speaker 3: top supporters on a donor call said that mcmorroe had
33:03
Speaker 3: submitted an excellent APACK paper because policy position paper, I
33:07
Speaker 3: suspect he misspoke and he meant DMFI, which is Democratic
33:11
Speaker 3: Majority for Israel, which is kind of an APAC offshoot.
33:14
Speaker 4: Either way.
33:14
Speaker 3: So mcmorroll produced this secret Israel policy paper in an
33:20
Speaker 3: attempt to keep APACKED out That kept coming up throughout
33:26
Speaker 3: the race with people saying this also appears cynical, like
33:31
Speaker 3: what do you not what's in that paper? Release the paper?
33:33
Speaker 3: What are you not telling us about your actual position.
33:36
Speaker 3: Daniel Biss, who won his race against kat In and
33:40
Speaker 3: against an APAC candidate in Chicago, he also got hit
33:44
Speaker 3: because he met with APAC trying to keep them out.
33:47
Speaker 3: Wasn't trying to win their support, and wasn't bending to
33:50
Speaker 3: everything they wanted, but he met with them just to
33:53
Speaker 3: try to because he met, he was meeting with everybody.
33:56
Speaker 3: He said after the race, if he had to do ever,
33:58
Speaker 3: to do over again, and his advice to other candidates
34:01
Speaker 3: do not ever meet with them because it's just politically
34:04
Speaker 3: too toxic even to take the meeting. And mcmorro I
34:08
Speaker 3: think found that out if she had not done that
34:10
Speaker 3: secret policy paper and if her donor hadn't, because what
34:15
Speaker 3: good is it if you can't tell people about it?
34:16
Speaker 3: So she the donor kind of told other donors about
34:20
Speaker 3: it on this off the record call, but then they
34:22
Speaker 3: got that got leaked. Is that really? So that really
34:27
Speaker 3: screwed her. So it's an amazing own goal on the
34:32
Speaker 3: part of Third Way. Who thought they were going to
34:35
Speaker 3: make Hassan Piker the center of this campaign. They succeeded,
34:41
Speaker 3: and they blew themselves.
34:42
Speaker 7: Up totally embarrassing, and it's just missing misreading where the
34:45
Speaker 7: electorate is. And I just like a ridiculous way. It's
34:49
Speaker 7: not that hard anymore, honestly, Like it's I think of
34:53
Speaker 7: McMorrow as the type of candidate that ten years ago
34:56
Speaker 7: actually might have been a slam dunk, or twenty years
34:58
Speaker 7: ago it might have been a slam dunk. But even
34:59
Speaker 7: he Stevens in this like new media environment, she's out
35:03
Speaker 7: there just like riffing and saying the craziest shit ever
35:06
Speaker 7: in a way that does feel a lot less stage
35:08
Speaker 7: managed than McMorrow And Abdullah Sayad feels a lot less
35:12
Speaker 7: stage managed too, Like he goes on Fox News and
35:14
Speaker 7: answers tough questions.
35:16
Speaker 6: He like he just comes across as a normal guy.
35:20
Speaker 7: He knows how to talk on podcasts and just have
35:23
Speaker 7: a like authentic, genuine conversation where you don't think he's
35:26
Speaker 7: reciting talking points.
35:28
Speaker 6: Same thing with.
35:28
Speaker 7: Haley Stevens as like crazy as Hailey Stevens is she's out,
35:32
Speaker 7: they're like riffing about how she dreams about Israel, like
35:35
Speaker 7: she's just talking haunt and mcmorrow's the type of candidate
35:38
Speaker 7: who would never she's like so risk averse.
35:40
Speaker 6: She can't do either of those things. So it's just
35:43
Speaker 6: was an impossible lane with all three of them in
35:46
Speaker 6: the race.
35:46
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate because I think like there is something
35:51
Speaker 3: likable and like there's some inherent talent behind McMorrow if
35:58
Speaker 3: she would have been unleashed, like you know, if she
36:03
Speaker 3: would have just been able to be herself. But she
36:05
Speaker 3: was trying to calibrate this goldilocks thing of not the
36:11
Speaker 3: establishment candidate, but I'm also not the right the super
36:13
Speaker 3: far left it and it didn't allow her to It
36:17
Speaker 3: made her just constantly be measuring everything that she was
36:22
Speaker 3: saying exactly, and that that turned out to be too
36:26
Speaker 3: difficult once she kind of deliberately polarized the race around Israel,
36:31
Speaker 3: which was a huge mistake.
36:32
Speaker 6: Huge mistake.
36:34
Speaker 7: Well, we'll obviously continue to cover that race the primaries.
36:37
Speaker 7: I believe August fourth ground, right.
36:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And now, like Olside's supporters are pretty
36:42
Speaker 3: confident at this point, but you know, there's millions and
36:45
Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars coming in for Stevens. This
36:48
Speaker 3: race is not over like she could if the polls
36:51
Speaker 3: showed that about half, maybe of Steve of mcmorroe's remaining
36:55
Speaker 3: support could go to Stevens. So if outside can pick
36:58
Speaker 3: up that other half and he's a really good position.
37:03
Speaker 4: We'll see.
37:04
Speaker 7: All right, Well, let's talk about the huge This is
37:08
Speaker 7: the huge conflict roiling FIFA at the moment and has
37:12
Speaker 7: the United.
37:12
Speaker 6: States very excited.
37:16
Speaker 3: Valerian Ballagan will play for the United States tonight against Belgium.
37:19
Speaker 3: After an intervention by President Donald Trump, the undisputed winner
37:24
Speaker 3: of the FIFA Peace Prize. She made a call to
37:28
Speaker 3: the head of FIFA and said, hey, look, we just
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Speaker 3: want you go ahead and look into this red card situation.
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Speaker 6: He made some peace, he made the peace.
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Speaker 4: He's again, he's a peace maker.
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Speaker 3: So Donald Trump, thanking FIFA for help for getting flowback
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Speaker 3: onto the field.
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Speaker 4: We can put up E two here.
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Speaker 3: Thank you to FIFA for doing what was right and
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Speaker 3: reversing a great injustice, President Donald J.
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Speaker 4: Trump. So basically what happened is the US is striker.
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Speaker 3: Landed his foot accidentally landed on somebody else's ankle and
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Speaker 3: they gave him a red card for it, which, you know,
38:07
Speaker 3: things happen, and when you get a red card, you
38:10
Speaker 3: are then automatically suspended for the next game as well.
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Speaker 3: FIFA has the authority under an article something something something
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Speaker 3: to suspend the suspension. And according to all of the
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Speaker 3: different reporting that we.
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Speaker 6: Have, it was a heavily disputed call.
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Speaker 3: Disputed call, and you know heavily it can like you're
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Speaker 3: going for the ball.
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Speaker 4: It can happen. Yeah, things can happen. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 4: your red card.
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Speaker 6: Leg finds another man's leg.
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Speaker 4: The legs are moving fast. Apparently.
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Speaker 3: One thing that the Trump administration protested was the use
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Speaker 3: of super slow motion replay on the doling out of
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Speaker 3: these red cards, because it is true that it always
38:46
Speaker 3: looks worse, almost always looks worse in slow motion. It's like, oh,
38:50
Speaker 3: look he's aiming right for the ankle, and ooh, that
38:52
Speaker 3: looks like it really hurt. And unlike almost every other
38:55
Speaker 3: tackle in soccer where the guy's faking being heard, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that one looked like it actually did heart.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. But also you know, it's let the boys play.
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Speaker 3: So this is the Trump for once using his powers
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Speaker 3: of corruption for the country.
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Speaker 6: Well, you were pointing.
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Speaker 7: Out earlier in the show that actually this is Americans
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Speaker 7: arriving on the soccer scene. We have learned how to
39:23
Speaker 7: play soccer correctly, just that.
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Speaker 4: You bribe the FEVA.
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Speaker 6: Well, let's put.
39:28
Speaker 7: Let's put the first element up on the screen. This
39:30
Speaker 7: is confirmation that this Ben Jacobs, not the political reporter
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Speaker 7: Ben Jacobs.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, different. Ben Jacobs confirmed.
39:39
Speaker 7: The White House made a direct call to FIFA to
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Speaker 7: ask Gianni and Fantino to review Valigan's red card. FIFA
39:45
Speaker 7: approach for comment referred to the findings of its independent committee.
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Speaker 7: FIFA sources insist white House influence could not affect the
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Speaker 7: decision due to the powers contained in Article twenty seven
39:53
Speaker 7: and the independent nature of the disciplinary panel.
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Speaker 6: But obviously the White House did take a call.
39:57
Speaker 7: Trump has very carefully not taken credit, you notice, than
40:00
Speaker 7: the true social He.
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Speaker 6: Didn't say anything.
40:02
Speaker 7: He just thanked them for making the right decision. Now
40:06
Speaker 7: we can also put this Klay Travis post up. This
40:09
Speaker 7: is the third element. According to Clay Travis, he's conservative
40:13
Speaker 7: sports journalist. He says President Trump, Commerce Secretary Lutnik and
40:18
Speaker 7: White House Task Force head Andrew Giuliani. He is the
40:20
Speaker 7: son of Rudy Giuliani put together a team of elite
40:23
Speaker 7: lawyers from outside the government to challenge the Balligan red cards. Specifically,
40:27
Speaker 7: they challenged the use of slow motion, as Ryan mentioned,
40:29
Speaker 7: incidant replay to give the red card, which they argued
40:32
Speaker 7: violated FIFA rules. The President also conveyed to Gianni Infantino
40:36
Speaker 7: that the appeal had been filed and he believed the
40:38
Speaker 7: red card penalty was excessive. FIFA's Independent Committee reviewed the
40:42
Speaker 7: decision and agreed the penalty was incorrectly.
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Speaker 6: Given, rescinding it under their Rule twenty seven authority.
40:46
Speaker 7: Now, Brent, I think you can actually make an argument
40:50
Speaker 7: that all makes sense right, that it was a bad
40:55
Speaker 7: call and that the suspension.
40:57
Speaker 4: Of course, we can make that case.
40:59
Speaker 6: Now.
40:59
Speaker 7: Don't tell me that any other country would refuse to
41:02
Speaker 7: use this power in the World Cup. If any other
41:05
Speaker 7: country had this level of sway, they had the FIFA
41:09
Speaker 7: Peace Prize winner in the Oval Office in their version
41:13
Speaker 7: of the Oval Office.
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Speaker 6: You're telling me they don't make this call. I don't
41:16
Speaker 6: buy it.
41:16
Speaker 7: Now we should mention that Belgium is appealing. So the
41:20
Speaker 7: CNBC headline from yesterday Belgium set to appeal as PIFA
41:23
Speaker 7: reverses Baligan's World Cup suspension after Trump reportedly intervenes. So
41:28
Speaker 7: Belgians are furious. No surprise there at BBC. When I
41:32
Speaker 7: checked their website this morning, they were leading with the
41:35
Speaker 7: headline that was integrity of game at stake over FIFA
41:39
Speaker 7: Balligan decision UEFA. So they're reporting that Baligan, who was
41:45
Speaker 7: sent off against the Bosnia Herzegovinia, should have had a
41:48
Speaker 7: suspension for the last sixteen tie against Belgium, but FIFA offered,
41:51
Speaker 7: not opted not to enforce that. FA said that this
41:56
Speaker 7: is the European Soccer League said that our authority said
41:58
Speaker 7: that intervening to effective cancel suspension at a tournament quote
42:02
Speaker 7: crossed a red line and the idea.
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Speaker 3: That FIFA has any integrity to be challenged amazing.
42:10
Speaker 4: Get out of here, stop it.
42:11
Speaker 3: You don't have any So Emily has been doing more
42:14
Speaker 3: social media and so she did a direct to camera
42:18
Speaker 3: reaction to this ruling when it first came out.
42:20
Speaker 4: Let's put up four.
42:22
Speaker 6: Corruption is not bad.
42:25
Speaker 7: Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved, Yes, but
42:30
Speaker 7: if I'm part of that corruption.
42:32
Speaker 6: I defend it.
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Speaker 4: We are all that.
42:35
Speaker 6: Guy, How did you get that video of me?
42:38
Speaker 3: We are all emily, I mean, and I think this
42:42
Speaker 3: is how where Europeans going to learn something about Americans. Like,
42:45
Speaker 3: we like to win, and we don't. Many of us
42:48
Speaker 3: do not like our president. We also don't like the
42:51
Speaker 3: stupid rules that this stupid game has, and we are
42:57
Speaker 3: I think repulsed by Belgium's anger at this. Like it's okay, fine,
43:04
Speaker 3: Trump used his power illegally to get the American's best
43:09
Speaker 3: player back in.
43:10
Speaker 4: But that's not your business.
43:12
Speaker 3: Your job is to go out on the field and
43:13
Speaker 3: beat our best team that we can put out on
43:15
Speaker 3: the field. You're supposed to want to beat our best players.
43:18
Speaker 6: That's a good point. That's a good point.
43:21
Speaker 4: It's us.
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Speaker 6: How could you be so intimidated by us.
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Speaker 7: We're in the United States playing soccer.
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Speaker 6: You're fine, and.
43:28
Speaker 4: You can beat our best players.
43:29
Speaker 7: Hey, yes, yes, but you're right win with the best
43:33
Speaker 7: players and not on this what was obviously a very
43:36
Speaker 7: questionable red card call to begin with.
43:39
Speaker 3: So but all these stupid red card calls are pretty questionable.
43:42
Speaker 4: The whole the whole thing.
43:43
Speaker 7: Brian's getting dangerously close to say, play football like a man.
43:47
Speaker 3: The whole sport is just a little bit ridiculous. By
43:50
Speaker 3: how much it hinges on these on all of this
43:53
Speaker 3: stuff and then the penalty.
43:55
Speaker 4: Kicks and off side like it's just dumb. But whatever.
43:59
Speaker 3: This is the US playing the game of soccer how
44:02
Speaker 3: it's always been played. And now we're now we're actually
44:07
Speaker 3: getting involved in the corruption, and so we are we're
44:10
Speaker 3: going to we're going to defend this corruption. And so
44:14
Speaker 3: the game will be tonight at what nine o'clock, eight
44:19
Speaker 3: eight o'clock against against Belgium. And also we had to
44:24
Speaker 3: beat two teams at once Bosnia.
44:29
Speaker 4: To get there.
44:30
Speaker 3: You're right, and you're going to say that it's not fair.
44:34
Speaker 4: That's twenty two players against eleven.
44:36
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but every other country, both Bosnia and Herskovinia, would.
44:40
Speaker 6: Be using this power if they had it at their disposal.
44:44
Speaker 6: Everyone would be using this power.
44:45
Speaker 7: Trump, by the way, this morning on True Social put
44:47
Speaker 7: out a very random post where he said Harry Kane
44:50
Speaker 7: of England is a great player.
44:53
Speaker 6: That's all he said.
44:54
Speaker 7: Amazing actually early this morning, so like to eleven oh
44:59
Speaker 7: eight pm last night.
45:00
Speaker 3: Actually also real quickly do people know and people who
45:04
Speaker 3: aren't following this might not know Balligan's story. You know
45:08
Speaker 3: how it intersects people who don't know it. His Nigerian
45:14
Speaker 3: family was like visiting the United States and they were
45:17
Speaker 3: on their way to London, but she was so pregnant
45:21
Speaker 3: that the airline wouldn't let her get on the plane,
45:25
Speaker 3: and so she had flow here in the United States,
45:31
Speaker 3: and then once they were able to fly again, they
45:33
Speaker 3: went back. And he grew up in the UK and
45:37
Speaker 3: as a boys under seventeen always played with the UK.
45:42
Speaker 3: But he has said that Americans, as they were getting
45:45
Speaker 3: more and more into soccer, would constantly be kind of
45:48
Speaker 3: in his mentions and comments, saying well, why don't you
45:51
Speaker 3: play for us? Why don't you play for us rather
45:53
Speaker 3: than the English team? And because he had their birthright citizenship,
45:57
Speaker 3: he was able to do that. And also he's able
45:59
Speaker 3: to start because we're not as good as England.
46:02
Speaker 4: So it's not just that.
46:03
Speaker 3: He loves loves being on the field, and now we
46:07
Speaker 3: have a president who's willing to fight for him and
46:09
Speaker 3: get him back on the field. Meanwhile, Wild when it
46:13
Speaker 3: went down in Mexico and put up e five here,
46:17
Speaker 3: so this is these are Mexican fans outside of the
46:20
Speaker 3: English players hotel, having having an all night party, setting
46:25
Speaker 3: off setting off fireworks, playing music rather crass ley. I
46:32
Speaker 3: guess we could all say trying to keep the English
46:35
Speaker 3: team awake didn't work. Oh, I mean it might have worked.
46:38
Speaker 3: Maybe they were pretty tired, but they beat Mexico last
46:42
Speaker 3: night and then also Norway knocked off Brazil yesterday. I
46:47
Speaker 3: don't know if you watched this game, watch it, but
46:49
Speaker 3: the most Viking looking guy ever Norwegian scored two goals,
46:54
Speaker 3: just this.
46:56
Speaker 4: Absolute Norwegian specimen.
46:57
Speaker 3: You're like, that's comical, like that, that's what the North
47:00
Speaker 3: Eachan guy looks like.
47:01
Speaker 6: I was reading.
47:01
Speaker 3: He's like a foot taller than the Brazilians and his
47:04
Speaker 3: first header is just so nasty. Yeah, and his second
47:08
Speaker 3: goal where he just blasts it into the corner like
47:12
Speaker 3: it's brutal.
47:13
Speaker 6: It's a brutal way to lose.
47:14
Speaker 12: Now.
47:15
Speaker 7: I was reading an essay recently that said soccer actually
47:18
Speaker 7: is the highest upset rate of Americans, like if you
47:21
Speaker 7: compare it with baseball and American football, which has the
47:24
Speaker 7: highest upset.
47:24
Speaker 3: Rate, which I think is the knock on it from
47:26
Speaker 3: Americans perspective, because it's like there's so much chance involved
47:33
Speaker 3: and you can be dominating, dominating, dominating, and then then
47:36
Speaker 3: you just get one run going the other end and both.
47:41
Speaker 4: So it's a tough one for Americans.
47:43
Speaker 7: But but the argument is that makes it fun to watch.
47:46
Speaker 6: That's the argument.
47:48
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, we need more commercial breaks like it.
47:50
Speaker 3: I think Americans feel uncomfortable if like there's live action
47:55
Speaker 3: for ten minutes and we haven't heard from like Buffalo
47:57
Speaker 3: Wild Wings telling us.
47:59
Speaker 4: About the new special for the new specials.
48:01
Speaker 3: And so for the first time ever, FIFA added these
48:04
Speaker 3: fake water breaks so that we can ever a so
48:07
Speaker 3: that Buffalo Wild Wings can We're like, okay, now we
48:11
Speaker 3: now we now we feel centered and grounded.
48:13
Speaker 6: Should I buy the bud light?
48:15
Speaker 7: And then you know, yeah, and then someone tells us yes,
48:20
Speaker 7: and producer Mattress adds finally before we go that it
48:23
Speaker 7: is against FIFA's own rules to use slow motion on
48:25
Speaker 7: red cards.
48:27
Speaker 6: Just the final point tie this all together.
48:29
Speaker 4: Well did they maybe they did? Well, yeah, that's true, producer.
48:33
Speaker 3: See, everyone everyone in America, left to right, left, center
48:36
Speaker 3: and right is going to defend the corruption.
48:38
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48:40
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48:44
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48:54
Speaker 4: Us?
48:55
Speaker 6: A bro show all week? Is that correct?
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Speaker 4: If soccer keeps showing up?
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