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Foster and Friends Vol 151 Will Stewart · Foster and Friends

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SPEAKER_05: I got a message from him before the game, so hopefully we'll get him in town here over the next couple weeks.
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SPEAKER_08: It is Foster and Friends for another weekend.
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SPEAKER_08: And college football is uh if you're tired of uh LSU and meetings and SEC meetings and expulsion and all that stuff, yeah.
1:28
SPEAKER_08: A lot of news.
1:29
SPEAKER_08: Bud Foster's here after a really nice weekend.
1:32
SPEAKER_08: And uh um you heard in the open the whole Michigan thing, too, which Bud and I are gonna cover in uh just a little bit.
1:38
SPEAKER_08: What a crazy start to the football year, right?
1:43
SPEAKER_08: With everything that's going on.
1:45
SPEAKER_06: Well, yeah, you had uh obviously the Michigan uh Western game.
1:50
SPEAKER_06: You have SMU and Florida State with their power outage, and and uh, you know, so I don't know if that's just the beginning of uh what's gonna be a crazy hectic uh you know uh season, which that's what college football is all about, you know, particularly early on, where they're even though you might have some experienced teams, or that you just don't know until you get out there and play, you know.
2:19
SPEAKER_06: And uh that's what's so unique about college football as opposed to high school and the pros, because high school get the scrimmage against, you know, they'll have several scrimmages against other teams before they play.
2:30
SPEAKER_06: And uh NFL obviously has preseason games where college football, you don't you may you have an idea, I mean, uh what type of football team you think you may have, but until you put it all together again, because the roster's changed and more and more so now with the portal uh than ever before.
2:49
SPEAKER_06: But uh yeah, you just don't know and how they're gonna execute.
2:52
SPEAKER_06: That's usually the the biggest thing is execution, you know, on both sides of the ball early in the season, you know, and that's the exciting thing about college athletics.
3:03
SPEAKER_06: But it's I think it's gonna make for a great season.
3:05
SPEAKER_06: I think it's gonna be a lot of excitement ahead this year, and I'm looking forward to it.
3:10
SPEAKER_08: Well, you heard in the open that uh James Franklin was so happy that uh Frank and he goes, I bet Frank and Bud are gonna be happy with this performance against VMI.
3:18
SPEAKER_08: So, you know, James, I think, is your biggest fan uh as well.
3:22
SPEAKER_08: Next to me, of course.
3:23
SPEAKER_08: He's gotta get to get in line for that.
3:25
SPEAKER_08: But anyway, you had to be happy with the the way tech went about their business.
3:30
SPEAKER_08: There was very rarely, there was nothing really sloppy about it.
3:34
SPEAKER_08: There was nothing, you know.
3:35
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I you know, they and you know, I thought VMI would be a little bit better than they were, particularly offensively.
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SPEAKER_06: That offense can present some problems, that Paul Johnson, you know, option.
3:46
SPEAKER_06: But uh, I just thought tech played to their standard.
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SPEAKER_06: And I thought they were very efficient.
3:51
SPEAKER_06: There was a lot of unforced errors, meaning there was not any unfor like you know, offsides or illegal formations, and just they looked efficient.
4:00
SPEAKER_06: And uh, we're gonna have to play a much better game.
4:03
SPEAKER_06: You know, we've got a game coming up this afternoon.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, or we I know we recorded this before, but yeah, uh against an ODU team, which will which will challenge tech in different ways than obviously than what uh VMI.
4:15
SPEAKER_06: But I think as a coach, uh I I thought they would be uh, you know, in my opinion, I would be pleased with at least we played to our standard, not drop down to our opponent's level.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And I thought tech did that and did that for 60 minutes.
4:29
SPEAKER_06: I will say this, I loved our fan the fan base.
4:32
SPEAKER_06: Oh they prepare early, yeah, they stayed late.
4:35
SPEAKER_06: The energy was uh high, as high as I've seen it in a long, long time.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they were ready.
4:42
SPEAKER_08: They were ready for sure.
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SPEAKER_08: All right.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh Will Stewart, who is the uh GM and founder of Tech Sideline, uh he took he bought Sportswar LLC.
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SPEAKER_08: He's been the owner for over 17 years, a software and systems engineer, and a guy that actually grew up in Charlottesville, is gonna join us for a couple of segments.
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SPEAKER_08: He's uh just a terrific guy and a uh a wonderful representative of tech and what he does.
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SPEAKER_08: Anyway, he'll be along.
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SPEAKER_08: We're gonna go to break here.
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SPEAKER_08: We'll come back because I gotta give Bud's take on Big Ten clocks and sinking.
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SPEAKER_08: And I just I had too many questions.
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SPEAKER_08: I started to write them down Saturday night, so we'll do it when we come back.
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SPEAKER_08: You just heard uh bumping back, you heard the uh the Western Michigan, uh Michigan debacle, which brings up just a lot of it because a lot of schools it was funny, but I thought that uh the Lee, the NFL, the Big Ten, uh, the Big 12, we're gonna look at our clock, we're gonna look at our replays, we're gonna make sure clocks sink.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh, I'm sure you've seen it, you heard it, you saw it.
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SPEAKER_08: What was your uh what was your take on the almost Western Michigan upset over Michigan and the clock and the way they got a second Hail Mary attempt?
7:34
SPEAKER_06: Well, I just my heart goes out to Western Michigan, let me say that.
7:38
SPEAKER_06: I mean, they played a tremendous football game against a you know, um much I'd say uh not by the score, but a superior roster, you know, it looks like anyway.
7:49
SPEAKER_06: And uh yeah, it was just kind of you know, uh my heart goes out to them, a little heartbroken.
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SPEAKER_06: I mean, but I tell you what it will, I mean, what it has is obviously it's just created an uproar with you know the timing situation, you know, and uh the NCAA is now is you know setting up a standard timing protocol.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, no, the Mac wants Western Michigan to be recognized as the winner of the appeal.
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SPEAKER_06: N CAA can't overrule that.
8:18
SPEAKER_06: I mean, there's just so much going on, but my heart goes out to those guys at Western Michigan because they played their tails off.
8:26
SPEAKER_06: And um, yeah, I mean, uh it's just uh I know if I was them, I'd be I'd be upset.
8:34
SPEAKER_06: I really wouldn't.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I'm gonna play something for you to see because of the when when replays came into effect.
8:40
SPEAKER_08: I know you were still you were still coaching, right?
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SPEAKER_08: When they were doing replays upstairs and and analyzing everything.
8:45
SPEAKER_08: All right, and I'll I'll I'll I'll give you my take, and I'm gonna see if I'm even close to correct.
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SPEAKER_08: So here's what happened when they had to look at it to decide the clock.
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SPEAKER_08: Now, this is the Big Ten replay uh center uh where they are where they are looking at things.
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SPEAKER_07: Okay, he's jumping from out of bounds.
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SPEAKER_07: Do you see that?
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SPEAKER_07: When he touches the ball.
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SPEAKER_07: When 18's touching the football for one second on the clock.
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SPEAKER_07: No, no, I'm using that.
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SPEAKER_07: I'll just keep it on because I'm getting him up, but just to hold on.
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SPEAKER_07: And we've got him program feed.
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SPEAKER_07: Jim, are you with me?
9:19
SPEAKER_07: Yes, can you hear me guys?
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SPEAKER_07: We are gonna put one second on the game clock and we're gonna have another play from the previous spot, okay?
9:27
SPEAKER_08: Now, I know I'm not exact exact in this.
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SPEAKER_08: That sounded to me like utter chaos.
9:33
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, like we're not really sure where we're going here, but one guy was taking control.
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SPEAKER_08: Am I am I wrong?
9:40
SPEAKER_08: And I mean, it sounded like a rocket launch.
9:42
SPEAKER_08: We get those on YouTube down here.
9:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, it sounded like, I mean, to me, I'm not for sure.
9:46
SPEAKER_06: One of those has to be the the referee.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, and then you have the folks upstairs.
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SPEAKER_06: I think my my understanding, and I again I didn't see that game.
9:56
SPEAKER_06: I've seen the replays of it.
9:58
SPEAKER_06: Um, but I also know there was there's still a question marked in the res the ball ever touched.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah, apparently it wasn't.
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SPEAKER_08: It was an illegal batted ball, which is not, in other words, as you well know, a defensive penalty, a game cannot end on a defensive penalty, but a game can end on a five-yard penalty, which would have been an illegal batted ball when he stepped out of bounds, and the game could end on that call.
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SPEAKER_08: In other words, you wouldn't have a replay of another play.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, but yeah, this kid uh who wore 18, I don't even know the the guy's name, but he he had the foot out of bounds, came back, batted the ball away, game over.
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SPEAKER_08: Now, uh people were saying the clocks didn't sink and that the clock was at 0-0-0 with the ball in the air.
10:42
SPEAKER_08: Well, that doesn't make any difference because the last play still has to be played out.
10:47
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:48
SPEAKER_08: So anyway, they they thought that he had made the play, but then the fact that they gave him because if the game was over, if the clock did not have a tick on it, one tick left, one second left, that an illegal batted ball could have ended the game.
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SPEAKER_08: In other words, you know, failed it, failed attempt and a game, you know, could end it.
11:11
SPEAKER_08: Now, what I heard, and I what saw was that earlier was an un they they put a second back on the clock when they tried to spike it before the first Ale with nine seconds left.
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SPEAKER_08: Instead of eight seconds, they added a second and put nine.
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SPEAKER_08: So there was a there was a lot, you know, going on.
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SPEAKER_08: I guess though, as a coach, and it it came into being you were still on the sideline, I would guess that you were happy that video replay became a part of our our our fiber here, the the football fiber.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
11:49
SPEAKER_06: And there, yeah, and I was at the early onset of it.
11:52
SPEAKER_06: Now obviously we were a we were a part of that against Michigan, you know, in the uh 2011 uh Sugar Bowl.
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SPEAKER_08: You told that's right.
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SPEAKER_06: Danny Cole caught a ball in the corner and in uh in the end zone, which probably would have won the football game for us.
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SPEAKER_06: Um you know, and and called it a touchdown, and then the video overruled it.
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SPEAKER_06: And that was, I think, probably one of the first overruled decisions in the whole process, you know.
12:23
SPEAKER_06: And uh so anyway, yeah, and it just happened to be against Michigan.
12:27
SPEAKER_06: How about that?
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SPEAKER_10: You know, but um anyway.
12:30
SPEAKER_06: Um uh no, uh, it's just yeah, I'm I'm glad, you know, and I'll say this most of the officiating is outstanding.
12:38
SPEAKER_06: I agree.
12:39
SPEAKER_06: I totally agree.
12:40
SPEAKER_06: I've been uh impressed by the majority of the officiating.
12:45
SPEAKER_06: Now, I do I get into I wish you know I know in the NFL I think they can challenge certain calls here and there, you know.
12:53
SPEAKER_06: Whereas in college, I don't think we can.
12:56
SPEAKER_06: Uh, but you know, I I do think this that you know officials can control the outcome of a football game in in some instances with you know with well with this kind of scenario and or you know, I mean you can call holding on every snap.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think the holding rule and I are holding calls and I think pass interference calls are are uh you know easy to make and easy not to make, you know, and uh and I think those are the two though that can change the outcome of a game quicker than anything, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: But this one obviously coming down to a clock scenario, you just would hope that everything would be in sync, you know, and and in tune.
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SPEAKER_08: Well, then when it was all said and done before the appeal uh last week, but right away, Russ Cavalhuna, who is the, and I hope I'm pronouncing that right, is the Western Michigan president who basically had a message and said, Look, let's not be bitter, let's be better.
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SPEAKER_03: But this is a remarkable opportunity for us to look forward and to say to these people, these young men, and frankly, influence everyone around us that when this kind of thing happens, you take a hard look, and then if the system is set such that you can't review it, then you use this as an opportunity to learn.
14:18
SPEAKER_03: Because the truth is, if this team is great, and I believe we can prove we are great, then this will make us stronger.
14:24
SPEAKER_06: And that's how it should be.
14:25
SPEAKER_06: I mean, obviously, you know, you want to be respectful to you know, um both sides and you know, and and and compliment his team.
14:33
SPEAKER_06: They played extremely hard, and you know, and and then yeah, how can they be better?
14:38
SPEAKER_06: And and uh, but that's just uh that's the gentleman's way, you know, to uh you know the right way to probably handle that situation.
14:46
SPEAKER_08: To handle it.
14:46
SPEAKER_08: So all right.
14:47
SPEAKER_08: Hey, we'll go to break, come back.
14:48
SPEAKER_08: We've got a great conversation coming up.
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SPEAKER_08: Will Stewart, who is the Tech Sideline guy, uh GM and founder over 30 years of of Tech Sideline, the video podcast and the blog.
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SPEAKER_08: Bud is now doing a uh a feature with them, and and it's just a wonderful production.
15:03
SPEAKER_08: And uh we're gonna get his uh thoughts on uh you know how he's handling things and how he built really uh just an amazing entity.
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SPEAKER_08: So we'll come back with Will Stewart.
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SPEAKER_02: So so here's I'm sitting here looking at that that recruiting class, uh, in-state recruiting class.
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SPEAKER_08: Welcome back.
16:50
SPEAKER_08: It's Foster and Friends on the NSB Radio Network, and this guy is no stranger to athletics in the state.
16:56
SPEAKER_08: And uh uh Bud and I were just laughing, uh, Will, before we we got you not we gave you the official intro.
17:03
SPEAKER_08: But uh Will Stewart is with us, he is uh the tech sideline general manager and founder.
17:08
SPEAKER_08: Over 30 years you've been doing tech sideline.
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SPEAKER_08: You're yeah, you're old, but anyway.
17:13
SPEAKER_08: But little did I know that he was a backyard guy to me when we were covering Ralph Sampson in the early 80s in Virginia.
17:20
SPEAKER_08: I had no idea that he was uh an Albemarle High School guy.
17:24
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, me too.
17:24
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I've I've done a bunch of episodes and hung out with Will at different times.
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SPEAKER_06: I just thought he was a Radford guy, man, you know, all this time.
17:33
SPEAKER_06: Maybe he kept that from me, but uh, but it was good to hear, even though he was living up in that other town.
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SPEAKER_06: That other town, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: He was he was a hokey, but no, it's great to have Will.
17:44
SPEAKER_06: And you know, I've I've had a chance to uh, you know, we're doing Beyond the Pale uh series, which I've been it's been a lot of fun um reminiscing, but uh Will's been so kind to me, so gracious to Virginia Tech Athletics and particularly football.
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SPEAKER_06: And so it's great to have you on the show, Will.
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SPEAKER_06: And and uh thanks for taking time.
18:04
SPEAKER_06: I know you gotta run to get a haircut here real quick, so we won't keep you real long.
18:08
SPEAKER_06: And you gotta look good for the our podcast later on today.
18:11
SPEAKER_08: I'm jealous of guys who have to get haircuts.
18:13
SPEAKER_08: So that's anyway.
18:16
SPEAKER_08: Will welcome yeah.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: That was last week, but I got the haircut the last week.
18:20
SPEAKER_08: Oh, okay, okay.
18:21
SPEAKER_08: Uh well, this guy's as I said, his IQ uh is through the roof.
18:25
SPEAKER_08: Uh, you know, he's been a software and systems engineer and uh works with a a bunch of great guys.
18:31
SPEAKER_08: So, Will, let's back up in the very beginning.
18:34
SPEAKER_08: You're in Charlottesville.
18:35
SPEAKER_08: You said you liked UVA a little, but it was it was it because Virginia Tech was winning all the time.
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SPEAKER_08: Was that why you became a hokey fan?
18:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, when I was in Charlottesville, Virginia Tech was okay.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, they were the Bill Dooley era, they they weren't what they would later become.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh I graduated Al Marle in 1983, which means that I was in high school the four years that Ralph Sampson was playing for UVA.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: We all know that UVA football was not good back then.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: I remember going to football games as a Cub Scout, and we had all the room we needed in the stadium.
19:09
SPEAKER_08: In that 40,000 seat stadium, yeah.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: But you know, my uh my dad graduated from Virginia Tech.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: So even though I was uh born and raised in Charlottesville, I was a Virginia Tech fan and a UVA fan.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: And when they played each other, I'd root for uh Virginia Tech.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: But other than that, like that that year that Ralph and the guys started out 23-0 and they lost on that last second shot in every game.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: You know, that Kelly Trapuka team.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Sure, 81.
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SPEAKER_02: I was crushed.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's my my dirty secret, man.
19:45
SPEAKER_02: That was my first year.
19:45
SPEAKER_08: I won't go into this is your show, not mine, but that was yeah, they were 27-0 from the NIT.
19:50
SPEAKER_08: They had won 27 straight from the NIT the year before in the championship.
19:54
SPEAKER_08: And uh, um, it was uh yeah, my first year because I got there in 1980.
19:59
SPEAKER_08: Uh you know, with Dick Bestwick.
20:01
SPEAKER_08: And yeah, I think my very first football game, I think Virginia had a kickoff blocked.
20:05
SPEAKER_08: That's how uh that's how bad they were.
20:07
SPEAKER_08: So they they weren't good, but anyway, let's let's talk about Will and you so but when you built your your podcast, your tech sideline, and whatever, you probably had no idea at that time you were going to build such a marketing tool for the school and really such a such a dynamite program.
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SPEAKER_08: I mean, you probably had to be an industry leader, I would think, at that time.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, when we started our podcast, we'd been doing the website for 20 years.
20:32
SPEAKER_02: So we were really we were we were guys who wrote content.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: We were not, you know, we did occasional radio shows and stuff like that.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: We didn't have an audio, video, or social media present.
20:44
SPEAKER_02: Um and we hired a guy who was our beat writer, and he kept telling me again Ricky Ricky kept telling me you've gotta start a podcast, you've gotta start a podcast.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: And we finally talked to it in uh August of 2015.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: And what I would tell people, Mac, is that uh you know, we we've been doing our thing for 20 years, and our audience was our audience were what is the fail wrong?
21:08
SPEAKER_02: Our audience was getting failed, we were having trouble reading new people.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: We started doing the podcast and then later made it a video podcast as well.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: That's when you know new new markets and new things and new people really started opening up.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: And you know, if if you've seen us on YouTube, then you know we got a pretty fancy thing and we got a multi-game.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: We have a great producer who really manages all that.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: Um but our philosophy has always been to just push to make it better and better and better and keep making it what we would want to watch.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, make it like everybody else out there.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: And uh so try to produce something that that we take the time to sit down for.
21:53
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_08: Well, and now you got Bud doing, you know, Bud's doing everything now, Mr.
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SPEAKER_08: Media.
21:57
SPEAKER_08: Uh, you know, not only is foundation doing Commercials, you know, he's doing you know, uh selling chicken cigars.
22:04
SPEAKER_08: I mean, uh, Bud has just become a medium mogul.
22:07
SPEAKER_08: In fact, I'm gonna try to become his agent within the next year.
22:10
SPEAKER_08: I don't know if that's gonna that's gonna work, but yeah, he's and now you're doing the thing with Bud, and it's so good to because I get parts of Bud listening to him and all the stories, and I I pick up a lot more, really.
22:22
SPEAKER_08: You know, it's uh it's a good thing.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, Bud and I have known each other a long time, over 15 years.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: And you know, but Bud would always say to me, Let me know if there's anything ever anything I can do to help.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: And he'd see he said it for years and years and years, and finally a few months ago, I said, Okay, I'll tell you what.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: So he he comes on every couple of weeks, and we do a series called Beyond the Pale.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: And the great thing about Bud, and you know this, I tell people all the time, you just sit Bud down, he's got a little thing in his back you twist to wind him up.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: That's right, let him go.
22:58
SPEAKER_08: That's right.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: Ask him a question, and then you can go to the bathroom, you get coffee.
23:03
SPEAKER_08: I'm taking a lot of breaks with him.
23:04
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, with him breaking down cover three.
23:07
SPEAKER_08: That's exactly right.
23:08
SPEAKER_08: That's right.
23:09
SPEAKER_08: So it's uh great stuff.
23:10
SPEAKER_08: So, but now you can jump in.
23:12
SPEAKER_08: I've had my, you know, I've dominated Will here.
23:15
SPEAKER_06: So uh and I know it's uh uh number one, I appreciate that.
23:18
SPEAKER_06: I don't know if I should take that as a compliment or not with my my my gift to Gab, you know, because it's the best guys drop on the button that I tell them, you know, I've forgotten they these guys are amazing.
23:30
SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, his crew of Chris Coleman and Nick Brown that um that I work with closely with Beyond the Pale, but these guys, their knowledge and memory of things that went on, I mean, they're talking about specific plays, and you know, and and for me, there's so many plays over the course of the years or so many players, and it's just there's it's in there somewhere, but when they they they flick a flip a switch and then all of a sudden I can go, you know, it'll bring back some memories.
24:00
SPEAKER_06: But I want to go back, Will, because you know, you you you mentioned and in the podcast, and and that this is the new wave and new era of of uh social media too.
24:11
SPEAKER_06: But initially, uh I want to go back to when you started with this this print the print media, so to speak, you know, and I don't want to get into all the dynamics because you were a programmer and I looked up HTML, you know, and all that with uh, you know, and you had to learn that whole system or how to transfer whatever that's way above my you know pay grade and whatnot.
24:32
SPEAKER_06: But I remember when all that came around as a coach, you know, you you you'd maybe look at it here or there just to see what they're saying after a game, if you know, you pat ourselves on the back or whatnot.
24:43
SPEAKER_06: But you know, but but as I walked there was so much that we didn't win good enough, or every everything was critiqued.
24:51
SPEAKER_06: And and so as you as you as I look back, you had a lot of content, you know, and how you, you know, maybe you can go into how you put that on paper or on on the internet or whatever.
25:05
SPEAKER_06: Um, but also, you know, how did you decipher good, bad, what'd you want to put on there?
25:11
SPEAKER_06: I'm sure there's a lot of things you didn't put on there.
25:13
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I'm sure there were some UVA people, the haters that and stuff that just kind of random, because you get that on on social media now.
25:20
SPEAKER_06: I mean, you've got to decipher kind of through good, bad, and indifferent and what you wanted to put out there, but but also be fair and open-minded for your uh you know, your subscribers to look at.
25:33
SPEAKER_06: And and uh, but I you know, so can you jump and dive into that a little bit with your um how this whole thing started, too, from that end of it, and before you you jump to this modern age.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: When I first started doing this, uh I was just a fan, you know, and I acted like a fan.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: And but the audience grew pretty quickly.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: And so my philosophy has always been so it sounds like you're talking about two different things, Bud.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: You're talking about the content that we produce, yes, and then you're talking about what fans say on the message board.
26:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because you had it was like you had two different things, right?
26:07
SPEAKER_06: The things you put out there, but also you had your message board, which was a big thing and a big pla area where people could vet, so to speak, good, bad, or how however they want to do it.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: So let's cover the message boards really quickly.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Early on, we adopted a philosophy on the boards that you couldn't come on and say things like, you know, uh Blood Foster sucks, or Al Clark sucks.
26:33
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: If you're gonna criticize somebody, you know, we're gonna delete comments like that.
26:37
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have to say things like, you know, man, Al Clark was 424.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: That guy is a warrior and all that, but he just is not very accurate passing.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: That's a fair criticism, right?
26:49
SPEAKER_02: To just come on and blast away on people.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: And we always uh delete a post with profanity in them and things like that.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: There's only so much you can do with message boards that kind of take a life of their own, but you can't have standards that you hold people to.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Um now, as far as our written content went, um you know it got it got big enough fairly quickly.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: It was it was this situation, bud, where I started it in the late 90s and we didn't have media access till 2012.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: How about that?
27:22
SPEAKER_02: So we were writing stuff, but we weren't having to go over there and go to press conferences and be around the coaches and players.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: Um so from that standpoint, we were insulated a little bit.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: But you know, our philosophy early on was if you're gonna have a viewpoint, particularly a critical viewpoint, you need to be able to back it up.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: You need to predict stats, you need to present people's quotes, what they actually said.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: Like uh, you know, early on, I remember one thing I did after that BCA game got uh got uh ruined by lightning.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: Jim Weaver said some things right after the game as far as how he wanted to reschedule and things like that, and uh then he kind of changed his mind and backed out of it.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: And and I wrote an article criticizing him, but I used his own words, I didn't just blast away and you know, and go after Jim without being able to back it up with uh um you know reasonable discourse and and things that he had said.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: So uh hopefully that answers your question.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: That's always been the philosophy of uh you know, and and that's what not I'm not a journalist, right?
28:34
SPEAKER_02: But that's what that's how journalists try to comport themselves.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: You don't just blast away and you also don't uh uh we also try not to be fanboys.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh man, I was I was a huge fan when I started.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm still a fan, but nobody really wants to read fanboy type writing.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: They want stuff that goes down the middle and talks about the good and talks about the bad.
28:56
SPEAKER_08: Well, it's what we talk about all the time at Dan Patrick.
28:58
SPEAKER_08: Will be analytical, don't be critical.
29:01
SPEAKER_08: So Will Stewart is our guest.
29:03
SPEAKER_08: He is the Tech Sideline General Manager and Foundation SportsWar LLC, owner over 17 years.
29:09
SPEAKER_08: We'll get into some of that when we come back.
29:11
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29:14
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30:20
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30:22
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30:29
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30:33
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30:38
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30:46
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30:50
SPEAKER_08: Welcome back.
30:50
SPEAKER_08: It's Foster and Friends, and the bump coming in.
30:52
SPEAKER_08: You heard his voice, Will Stewart, sports war LLC owner for over 17 years and Tech Sideline, founder over 30 years.
31:00
SPEAKER_08: Um former Albemarle High School guy in Charlottesville, but um handling never changing.
31:05
SPEAKER_08: It's great to talk to Will, as I said, praising his website.
31:08
SPEAKER_08: And by the way, if you don't know it, you should.
31:10
SPEAKER_08: Tech Sideline.
31:11
SPEAKER_08: Um, it's all over the uh all over the web and and all of it does a great job.
31:15
SPEAKER_08: And but of course, Bud is featured every so often and does.
31:20
SPEAKER_08: I think Bud loves the love, I think Bud's learning to love the media, but our fault, Matt.
31:25
SPEAKER_06: It's all your fault.
31:26
SPEAKER_06: You know, when it's all said and done.
31:28
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I've been, but uh no, I want to just finish where we kind of left off, you know, with uh where Will started and where they are now.
31:36
SPEAKER_06: I think it's really just me being around it and seeing where you know where it started, but where it is now.
31:42
SPEAKER_06: It's really incredible and being able to be involved.
31:45
SPEAKER_06: And I appreciate it, Will, with you having me on.
31:48
SPEAKER_06: It's been a lot of fun for me to reminisce if people haven't heard the Beyond the Pale.
31:53
SPEAKER_06: But I get a lot of comments on it.
31:55
SPEAKER_06: I was walking on game day the other day, and people just stopping by wanting to take a picture or saying that they just they love the they love the content, you know, what we're doing with Beyond the Pale.
32:05
SPEAKER_06: So I I appreciate that.
32:06
SPEAKER_06: But you know, from where you started, if you don't mind me asking.
32:09
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I know you had this vision, but then you started, you know, sending out subscriptions and all that.
32:16
SPEAKER_06: But where where are where did you start from, you know, and what was your goal and some of the milestones you hit to where you are now with um, you know, with your subscription-wise?
32:26
SPEAKER_06: I'm I'm sure that's how people are able to get to your content, right?
32:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: So uh I'll give you the elevator version.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh started in 1996 as a hobby, just uh throwing up half-baked content on the web and uh regurgitating news and then giving some opinion on it.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: And I did that for three years, and then in 1999, an investor who was looking to buy up websites and start a network came along and he offered me, he he actually bought the website back then was called Hokie Central.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: He bought Hokie Central off of me and then signed me to a contract to run it for more money than I was making as a programmer.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: So that was an easy decision.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: And that was Sports War.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: The the parent company that bought me was called Sports War, and uh so that was '99, and through probably about 2003, um, it was it was one of those situations where our investor was bankrolling and so we did operate at a loss for a while.
33:29
SPEAKER_02: We introduced subscription content in the year 2000, and along about 02 or 03 is when we got enough subscribers and we were generating enough revenue that we were paying for ourselves.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: So that was the 03-04 time frame.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: And then in 2009, I became president of Sports War, and then in 2021, I bought Sports War off of the owner.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: Um so Sports War never got very big.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: It uh, in addition to owning Tech Sideline, it also bought the Sabre.com, which is a UVA website.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: So um, so I was I was actually president of it for a while, but uh when I bought SportsWar off the owner, I sold the Sabre to Chris Wright, who runs the Sabre in uh 2022, I believe.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: So SportsWar is still the parent company, but it's primarily tech sideline.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: And we still host this the Saber.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Chris owns it and runs it, but we provide hosting and programming services for him.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: So to get back to the subscription model, uh, you know, people always ask me what's the biggest decision what's the biggest mistake you ever made in business?
34:40
SPEAKER_02: And I've got a couple, and and one of them was never understanding not never, but failing to understand what we were worth and charging what we were worth.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Um we started at 25 bucks, then we went to 35, then we went to 50, 55, 60, 80, 100, and now we're up to 120 a year.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: And every step along the way, and to this day, people still tell us that I pay more.
35:10
SPEAKER_08: Um that's that's a credit.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's been it's been a long process of getting to where we are.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: We now have, I mean, uh, yeah, I own it, so you can consider me a full-time employee, and I have four other full-time employees.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: This is an endeavor that provides full-time jobs for five guys.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: So it's gotten really big over the years, and we could have gotten there faster if I had just really understood how enthusiastic my market was and if I had charged what we were worth early on.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: So I know that may sound like an odd comment to make, but uh, you know, we're not at all where we are.
35:49
SPEAKER_08: No, not at all.
35:50
SPEAKER_08: And Will, so in the 90s, when to go back, so in the 90s, when you start to see this and you and guys are telling you, hey, you gotta let's launch, let's do this, let's do a podcast, let's you know, get online and so on.
36:00
SPEAKER_08: Was there a model before you, or did you guys kind of create the model that a lot of schools now well almost every school in America follows?
36:10
SPEAKER_02: A buddy of mine went to the Fuqua School of Business at Duke, and and Dave Thomas, the founder of Wendy's, came to speak one time to them, and and he was doing a QA, and somebody asked him about the model for Wendy's.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: And Thomas's answer was, I just wanted to make a better hamburger.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: He said, I didn't have this grandiose business plan.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: I just thought we could make a better hamburger.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: And so when people ask me what was the model, dude, I just the other analogy I tell is when you take kids to the bowling alley and you put the the things in the gutters or gutter balls, yeah, and the ball just goes back and forth until it finally hits all the pins.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: It's been our business all these years, is I just I I do what's in front of me, and I try to do because it's the internet, you can't plan more than three or four years out, you know.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: So I it the model has always been just try to do good work and do stuff that people like, and and the rest takes care of itself.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh I literally started it as a hobby because I was a programmer and I wanted to learn how to program on the internet, so I'm like, I'm gonna build a website, and I read a piece of advice that said, if you're gonna build a website, update it frequently and do it on a topic you care about.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: And I'm a comic book collector and Virginia Tech Sports fan, and I decided to do a Virginia Tech sports website.
37:31
SPEAKER_08: That's terrific.
37:32
SPEAKER_02: That's literally all it was, and it just kept going.
37:37
SPEAKER_08: Well, I thought the greatest thing in the world ever invented was when Mark Cuban launched broadcast.com and you know back in the 90s.
37:44
SPEAKER_08: And when I when I, as a as a radio guy and a play-by-play guy, could listen to every you know, broadcast all across the country, college and pro, and I could, you know, steal or listen to this and that.
37:56
SPEAKER_08: I mean, it was that that to me was such an eye-opening.
37:59
SPEAKER_08: So, guys like you, um, that have that did this and the mess, you know, now for you to launch message boards and stuff, the saber and all those message boards, those guys hide under all those names or whatever.
38:11
SPEAKER_08: And my daughter used to come home and cry because somebody wanted my job, and then somebody said, Oh, yeah, yeah, he's the greatest ever.
38:18
SPEAKER_08: No, he sucks, he's not very good.
38:20
SPEAKER_08: So it's like, you know, the guy Bud was talking about, you know, who would go online and say, Bud doesn't know what he's doing.
38:25
SPEAKER_08: What's he doing round number three in the fourth quarter and all that stuff?
38:29
SPEAKER_08: So, um, but I think to be uh the the way you launched it and the way you did it is such a credit to you and your guys, which leads me now uh to the question if you're a credited media now and yet you do root for tech, but you guys, as you said earlier in the interview, you do try to be very analytical and not just you know rah-rah hokies.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and along the way, so uh in 04, I hired a guy named Chris Coleman, who was a history grad from tech.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: But the guys we've hired since then, we hired David Cunningham in 2021, and and David graduated from the sports media and analytics program.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: He is a trained, you know, journalist.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh then we hired Andy Bitter.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: Andy terrific.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: Andy worked for the Roanoke Times for the athletic, and then the athletic was foolish enough to lay him off.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: So we scooped him up, and and Andy is a professional trained journalist.
39:28
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, so he brings that to it.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: And then we hired Nick Brown as our director of media out of the sports media and analytics program at Virginia Tech.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: So we've done that thing over the years of transitioning from being a bunch of fans to bringing journalistic acumen into what we do, but at the core, people still know that we want Virginia Tech to win.
39:48
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, that's which is a great thing to do.
39:52
SPEAKER_08: That's a great model, you know, for sure.
39:54
SPEAKER_08: So well, well, we'd love to have you back.
39:56
SPEAKER_08: Um, I we do we could talk to you forever, and uh just congratulations on a job well done.
40:02
SPEAKER_08: Great hiring, Bud Foster.
40:03
SPEAKER_08: I hear he's pretty good now.
40:04
SPEAKER_08: You know, he's doing ACC news.
40:06
SPEAKER_08: I don't know if I'm a little here.
40:08
SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, I can either.
40:09
SPEAKER_06: So, you know, but uh it it's been like I said, it's been a blast.
40:13
SPEAKER_06: And like I said, I'm a fan of what they're doing, and and uh I can understand what they have on.
40:18
SPEAKER_06: And and like you said, he's hired great people, and I've got to know all of them and and you know over the years, but uh and and will especially, but uh just uh yeah, it's it's been a lot of fun.
40:29
SPEAKER_06: And and Will, again, congrats on all your thanks for taking the time to you know come join us on our show.
40:36
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, and bud's like me, you might want to start putting in, bud, you might want to start adding a little makeup on top.
40:41
SPEAKER_08: Uh the lights are starting to bounce a little bit.
40:44
SPEAKER_08: So, you know.
40:48
SPEAKER_06: I need to go to Will's barber shop, see if I mean wherever he goes and see if they can work my hair a little bit.
40:53
SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's so true.
40:54
SPEAKER_08: Well, hey, Will, we'll have you back soon.
40:56
SPEAKER_08: Uh I think we just scratched the surface and we know you're busy, but uh tell your guys congrats.
41:01
SPEAKER_08: And uh and thanks for being a model for my for my class uh at the damn pathway school down in Winter Park because truly I play it for them and I show them I go, look this four camera shoot, they're doing, you know, they're doing this, they're doing that, you know.
41:13
SPEAKER_08: And so uh I said, if you guys want to go big time, this is the model.
41:16
SPEAKER_08: Great.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate that, man.
41:19
SPEAKER_08: Well, I'll have you, I'll have you talk to the class one day.
41:21
SPEAKER_08: I'll I'll I'll steal you and have you talk to the talk to the guys one day.
41:25
SPEAKER_08: You'd be good.
41:26
SPEAKER_08: They all want to be podcasters, you know, they all want to create, you know, content.
41:30
SPEAKER_08: Will the Will Store, one of the best.
41:32
SPEAKER_08: And uh with uh Tech Sideline, uh GM founder, over 30 years of doing it.
41:37
SPEAKER_08: You can find it all over the place, so be sure and catch it.
41:40
SPEAKER_08: And then, of course, the pale with uh Bud Foster.
41:43
SPEAKER_08: But I will wrap up when we come back.
41:44
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41:45
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41:48
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42:09
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42:13
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42:25
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42:31
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42:35
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43:15
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43:17
SPEAKER_08: And uh by the way, that was uh that that bump back in that music is from a group in Chicago.
43:21
SPEAKER_08: They're a rhythm and funk uh band called Hot Like Mars.
43:25
SPEAKER_08: And uh I started to dabble and started to look at some of their stuff, boys.
43:29
SPEAKER_08: It uh it's really good.
43:30
SPEAKER_06: Hot like Mars.
43:31
SPEAKER_06: I gotta you know me, man.
43:32
SPEAKER_06: I gotta look it up.
43:35
SPEAKER_08: It's all over Spotify.
43:37
SPEAKER_08: I I can send you a link.
43:38
SPEAKER_08: It's really uh it's really good.
43:39
SPEAKER_08: Hot like Mars.
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SPEAKER_08: They're really good.
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SPEAKER_08: They're just a kind of a funk and a and and very they're very, very good live.
43:45
SPEAKER_08: So I just thought you would appreciate that uh coming in.
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SPEAKER_08: So with all that's being said and with all that's being done, first of all, uh Ohio State, Texas tonight, which is gonna be way too much fun.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, and And and I think uh, you know, the television people have done, you know, tried to go over time and putting together great matchups, not so much in the NFL, but I mean, you know, why we start with a Super Bowl matchup like we did last Wednesday.
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SPEAKER_08: But I think uh, you know, from a scheduling standpoint, I think the college people are really getting it right.
44:22
SPEAKER_08: We can talk all about the court cases and uh, you know, I'm I'm a little tired of that.
44:26
SPEAKER_08: But bud, when are you gonna see the Eagles?
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SPEAKER_06: I'm not seeing the Eagle football team.
44:32
SPEAKER_06: We're you know, next week we're going to uh we got our first road game uh to uh tech plays at Maryland, which will be uh, you know, a uh you know a big challenge.
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SPEAKER_06: Um but uh yeah, Jesse and I were flying to Vegas to go see the Eagles in the sphere.
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SPEAKER_10: So good will that be.
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SPEAKER_06: That's one of my all-time favorite bands.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, I hate that Glenn Fry's not with them, but uh they couldn't have a better uh fill-in than Vince Gill, in my opinion, as far as just a vocalist and you know, harmonizer and a guitar player.
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SPEAKER_06: Sure.
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SPEAKER_06: I know uh I think uh um Fry's uh son is playing too with them.
45:11
SPEAKER_06: But uh yeah, I'm anxious and this is a bucket list and check it off.
45:15
SPEAKER_06: But uh I'll be following, I'll be out in Vegas, so I'm gonna be watching some football games closely.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, might even have to put a laser on one.
45:23
SPEAKER_08: I was gonna say, should I send you should I send you a couple of dollars just to yeah, go ahead.
45:29
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, please do.
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SPEAKER_06: Several thousand, if you know, if you if you won't.
45:35
SPEAKER_08: Uh remind me after the show.
45:37
SPEAKER_08: I can't tell you the joke until we close, but there is a great joke about a guy giving a friend of his money on a base.
45:43
SPEAKER_08: So I'll have to tell you the joke.
45:44
SPEAKER_08: It's a great you can use it.
45:45
SPEAKER_08: Well, God, that when do you leave?
45:46
SPEAKER_08: Do you leave on you leave next Friday?
45:49
SPEAKER_06: Next Saturday, right?
45:50
SPEAKER_06: We're at least Saturday morning.
45:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we're leaving Saturday morning.
45:53
SPEAKER_06: You know how time changes like three hours.
45:55
SPEAKER_06: So we get there at noon.
45:56
SPEAKER_06: We got time to kill.
45:58
SPEAKER_06: We're staying at the Venetian.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, we're gonna stay the next day.
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SPEAKER_06: I think I might take Jesse on a gondola ride, I think, on you know, a little float on Sunday.
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SPEAKER_06: We're gonna come back on Monday, you know.
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SPEAKER_08: So that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_08: Well, look, have a good trip.
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SPEAKER_08: Have uh have fun.
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SPEAKER_08: We'll get I we'll get all the details when uh when you get back for sure.
46:17
SPEAKER_08: So that should be fun.
46:18
SPEAKER_08: So for Bud Foster, I'm Mac McDonald.
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SPEAKER_08: That's Foster and Friends for another week.
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SPEAKER_03: But this is a remarkable opportunity for us to look forward and to say to these people, these young men, and frankly influence everyone around us that when this kind of thing happens, you take a hard look, and then if the system is set such that you can't review it, then you use this as an opportunity to learn.
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