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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 7-28-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You have it. Tuesday, eamebody. Welcome to the Sean O'Connell
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  Speaker 1: Shaw on ESPN seven one f M.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna have a little bit of fun today, jumping deeper
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  Speaker 2: into the football speculation game. Gordy Chias is gonna join
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  Speaker 2: us in half an hour to talk about all the
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  Speaker 2: developments in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Jensen to jump into some NFL.
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  Speaker 2: We've got he's from Mile High Huddle, You've got some
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  Speaker 2: Broncos interest associated with us here at the.
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  Speaker 1: Home of the Youth.
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  Speaker 2: And then Brett Sciancia, who does a great job every
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  Speaker 2: year with his Pick six pers It is the most
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  Speaker 2: accurate season preview magazine out there, and Brett siance is really,
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  Speaker 2: really good. He's also pretty high on Utah. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk with Brett coming up at one thirty. Should be
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  Speaker 2: a fun day here on the show. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: get into some numbers, some projections. Spend a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time yesterday talking about the possibility of, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of breaking it up.
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  Speaker 1: Who gets the.
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  Speaker 2: Majority of the touches in the passing game will eventually
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  Speaker 2: do this for the run game as well, But I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to stick with a little bit of what we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about yesterday, because it gets really interesting when
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  Speaker 2: you when you start to to dive in on the
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  Speaker 2: returning production or lack thereof, is probably the better way
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  Speaker 2: to say it. So I put a tweet out who
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  Speaker 2: will be Utah Football's leading receiver in this coming season?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Now? The Twitter poll.
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  Speaker 2: Is always limiting because you can only put four options.
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's an opportunity for several guys to
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  Speaker 2: really make a big splash.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe an opportunity for a tight end potentially to kind
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  Speaker 2: of step up into the role that is traditionally occupied
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  Speaker 2: by a number one wide receiver. We've seen that with
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  Speaker 2: Utah football in the past. There's no super obvious candidate.
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  Speaker 2: There's no Dalton Kincaid returning.
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  Speaker 1: There's no.
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  Speaker 2: Brant Keithy returning. There's not even a Cole Fatheringham or
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  Speaker 2: a Dallon Bentley. Dwen Bentley was criminally underrated for most
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  Speaker 2: of the season last year at the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys are not back.
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  Speaker 2: So your roster at the tight end spot, as we
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  Speaker 2: touched on a little bit yesterday, is not.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe on paper.
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  Speaker 2: As confidence inducing or confidence inspiring as in some years past.
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  Speaker 2: But if you listen to the conversation we had with
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  Speaker 2: Sly yesterday. He made a really, really good point and
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  Speaker 2: one that we should always remember. This time last year,
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  Speaker 2: very few people were singing the praises of John Henry
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  Speaker 2: Daily right he'd been a BYU transferred. There's been some
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  Speaker 2: kind of rumors around whether he was a little bit
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  Speaker 2: cantankerous and hard to coach down there at BYU. You
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  Speaker 2: had an injury that limited his production the previous season,
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  Speaker 2: his first season at the University of Utah, Plus he
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  Speaker 2: was kind of buried behind guys that were a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more established, guys like Jonah Ellis, and it was
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  Speaker 2: it was a kind of a guessing game as to
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  Speaker 2: who was going to lead the charge in the past rush. Now,
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  Speaker 2: some of you I got to give credit, and there
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  Speaker 2: were some of you on the text line, some of
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  Speaker 2: you on Twitter who said, absolutely, this John Henry Daily
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  Speaker 2: kid is going to be a breakout star this year.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get to that conversation on the show, I promise.
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  Speaker 2: But Stevens and Sylvester joining us yesterday made the great
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  Speaker 2: point where he's just like man, we didn't we weren't
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  Speaker 2: talking about John Henry Daily preseason the way that we
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  Speaker 2: ended up talking about him in the postseason, and unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: the way you talked about him in the postseason was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh man, the what if he'd been able to finish
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  Speaker 2: out those final couple of games. What if he didn't
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  Speaker 2: transfer to Michigan. There's a lot of what ifs. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, the point Well made is
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  Speaker 2: that there's somebody on this roster who is going to
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  Speaker 2: make themselves into a star or a borderline star that
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  Speaker 2: we are not giving credit to as of yet. You've
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  Speaker 2: heard some of the insiders mentioned the name like Bear Fisher.
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  Speaker 2: He's a freshman coming out of Queen Creek, Arizona. He's
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  Speaker 2: flashed a little bit. What will Monny, He's flashed a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Oklahoma State transfer Noah Benny went up to
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  Speaker 2: Weber State. He was here at the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 2: then he went up to Weaver State and remade himself
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, and now he's back.
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  Speaker 1: These are all big body guys.
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  Speaker 2: They're all kind of the prototypical college tight end at
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  Speaker 2: this moment, But what does it actually look like when
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  Speaker 2: they're put into a passing scheme? Is one of these
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  Speaker 2: guys going to be this year's at least Dallan Bentley,
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  Speaker 2: who was the second leading receiver on the team last
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  Speaker 2: year for the University of Utah and tied for the
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  Speaker 2: most receiving touchdowns for the University of Utah last year.
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  Speaker 2: It was very obviously a run first offense and very
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  Speaker 2: obviously a run first quarterback situation because of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that Devin dan Pierre was not able to really step
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  Speaker 2: into his throws, compromise some of his accuracy, the double
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  Speaker 2: sports hernia, the groin problem, I mean, the ankle issues.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was kind of working against him on all front,
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  Speaker 2: and he gritted it out and you ended up winning
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  Speaker 2: eleven games and you had some good moments. But Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Davis no longer in the program, obviously he's moved on.
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  Speaker 2: JJ Buchanan no longer in the program. And it puts
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  Speaker 2: you in a situation where you're now looking for, well,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be the leading receiver, who's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the top guy, who's going to be WR number one, eight, seven, seven, three, five,
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  Speaker 2: three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Who is that person? This year?
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  Speaker 2: The Twitter poll is being put out, but it's limiting.
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  Speaker 2: There's only four options you could throw on a Twitter pole.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want to tell me the other. I
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  Speaker 2: would happily listen to you tell me who and why
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the other as the correct answer.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, Braidon Pagan at Utah State University, under the
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  Speaker 2: same offensive coordinator who now is at the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 2: had sixty receptions for nine hundred and twenty six yards.
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  Speaker 2: He had five touchdown grabs. He had fifteen yards per catch.
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  Speaker 2: Those are all really really good, really healthy numbers, all right,
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  Speaker 2: Kyrie Sholz, another transfer you brought into the program at
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  Speaker 2: San Jose State. Played all twelve games for San Jose State.
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  Speaker 2: Had fifty nine catches, so one catch, shy. He had
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty eight yards. He had thirteen yards
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  Speaker 2: a catch, two touchdowns, So all those numbers chasing Braden Pagan.
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  Speaker 1: More. As much as we love him.
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  Speaker 2: He played nine games for Utah last year, he had
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  Speaker 2: twelve catches. I think he's his role is going to
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  Speaker 2: develop a heck of a lot more. I probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have even put him on the pole with that kind
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  Speaker 2: of number, not because I don't think he can improve
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  Speaker 2: it drastically, but it shows you kind of where we're
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  Speaker 2: at with returning production. He's a guy who was at
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  Speaker 2: the University of Utah last year, Larry Simmons.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing. Both of these guys came on later in
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 2: Both of these guys started to have a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more production in the season. Later in the season. Simmons
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  Speaker 2: had thirteen games. He played thirteen games and had fifteen
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  Speaker 2: catches all right, so he had a quarter of the
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  Speaker 2: catches that Pagan had at Utah State University. His yards
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  Speaker 2: per catch are almost nineteen, so he's way up there,
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  Speaker 2: just shy.
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  Speaker 1: He had two hundred and eighty total yards.
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  Speaker 2: He did have six touchdown catches, which actually outpaces all
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  Speaker 2: of the other wide receivers that are in the room
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  Speaker 2: this year for the University of Utah, including the newcomers.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at the twenty twenty five stats
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  Speaker 2: for the University of Utah, Davis gone, dowlln Bentley off
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  Speaker 2: to the NFL, JJ Buchanan is now in a Michigan uniform,
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  Speaker 2: and then you get to Larry Simmons, who was your
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  Speaker 2: top returning receiver coming into this year. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the numbers would have looked like for Hunter Andrews
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  Speaker 2: had he stayed healthy. I think that he's just as
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  Speaker 2: much of a renning threat, if not more of a
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  Speaker 2: running threat. So I don't know if he would have
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  Speaker 2: been a big time pass catcher for this team. And
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  Speaker 2: as we already mentioned Creed Withemore as a guy that
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  Speaker 2: we expect to be bigger and better. I didn't put
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  Speaker 2: Tobias Merriweather on the poll, not because I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Tobias Merriweather's going to have a role at all in
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  Speaker 2: the offense, but because I'm trying to garner a conversation
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  Speaker 2: and see if people want to actually like vote on
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  Speaker 2: that poll you put Tobias Merriweather's name. Maybe I should have.
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  Speaker 2: They would have been like trolling. A lot of Utah
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  Speaker 2: football fans would have raged. They would have felt like
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  Speaker 2: they were being rage baited if I had put Tobias
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  Speaker 2: Merriweather as an option on the who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver number one at the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know which of those guys or maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: another Maybe your asterix is no, it's none of.
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  Speaker 1: Those people that you put on as an option.
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  Speaker 2: Brighton Pegan, Kyrie Sholes, two guys who were brought in
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  Speaker 2: to be this make no mistake about it. The reason
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  Speaker 2: that Utah football went out and acquired two group of
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  Speaker 2: five talents Mountain West Conference level talents that they thought
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  Speaker 2: were under recruited and had overperformed that level, is because
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  Speaker 2: they want them to come in and they want them
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  Speaker 2: to show that merit here at the University of UTA.
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  Speaker 2: They want these guys to be wide receiver number one.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're totally warranted if you're skeptical that that
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the case at the University of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's a healthy level of skepticism when
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  Speaker 2: you hear about newcomers stepping up and having to integrate
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  Speaker 2: themselves to a new offense, new quarterback, new team, new
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  Speaker 2: level of competition is probably the most important one. But
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver is a place where you you probably can
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me who you think wide receiver number one is
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  Speaker 2: going to be at the University of Utah in this
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  Speaker 2: coming season. To put some of the numbers that I
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  Speaker 2: just read to you in context, and again, these are
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  Speaker 2: people that did it at a lower level Utah State defense.
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  Speaker 2: The defenses that Braden Pagan faced that Utah State are
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  Speaker 2: not the same as what he's going to see in
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  Speaker 2: the Big twelve. Big twelve defensive backfields are not sec
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  Speaker 2: defensive backfields either, Right, So, how much of a drop
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  Speaker 2: off or how much of an elevation of talent against
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  Speaker 2: him is this man going to see? Is it insignificant?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Is it daunting?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not for him because he has the necessary measurables.
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  Speaker 2: He's six', three he's two hundred and ten two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifteen, pounds he's got great body, control he's got
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  Speaker 2: a good vertical, leap he's got incredibly strong.
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  Speaker 1: Hands these are things that.
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  Speaker 2: Translate, right there's the greatest wide receiver in the history
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  Speaker 2: of THE nfl played At Mississippi Valley. State if you've
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  Speaker 2: got the traits necessary and the work ethic to continue
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  Speaker 2: to push up onward and upward with with those, traits
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  Speaker 2: then maybe you can be a wide receiver number one
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  Speaker 2: at The big two level the same way you were
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  Speaker 2: at The Mountain west level or at The New pac twelve,
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  Speaker 2: level if you want to call it, that because that's
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  Speaker 2: Where Utah state's at.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yeah they weren't when they weren't when was playing.
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  Speaker 2: There so he had sixty catches last year right For
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  Speaker 2: Utah State university catching the ball primarily from our, guy
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  Speaker 2: the pig, Farmer Bryson.
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  Speaker 1: Barnes.
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  Speaker 2: Right Bryson barnes is a lot more similar as a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback To Devin Dan pierre than, LIKE i, mean it's
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  Speaker 2: not a direct, analog but but it's a similar style of.
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  Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK a great, athlete a playmaker occasionally doing some backyard football.
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  Speaker 2: Thing not the most accurate passer in the world last
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  Speaker 2: year for either of those. Guys, Right so the catch
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  Speaker 2: radius On Brandon pagan was. Good sixty catches last year
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  Speaker 2: in The Big Twelve conference would have been good enough
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  Speaker 2: For can you guess what place that would put you
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  Speaker 2: into The big twelve sixty, catches sixty, catches top, five
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  Speaker 2: maybe top. Seven it would put him tied for eight
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  Speaker 2: eighth for sixty. Catches, now the guy who had sixty
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  Speaker 2: catches last year Was Chris hudson Of, arizona and he
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  Speaker 2: had seven hundred and sixty four yards on those sixty.
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  Speaker 1: Catches nine twenty six yards For Braden. Pagan you, want
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  Speaker 1: you want to take a stab at where that would
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  Speaker 1: have put him in in The big Twelve wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Standings seventh of, course my computer is now refreshing the
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  Speaker 1: list very. Slowly it would have put him at fourth. Fourth, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, again while those numbers are, AGAINST i throw up
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  Speaker 2: the air quotes inferior. COMPETITION i think this kind of
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  Speaker 2: stuff translates line hundred and twenty six yards would have
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  Speaker 2: made him a top five receiver in terms of. Yards last,
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  Speaker 2: year The Big twelve had one receiver go over one
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  Speaker 2: thousand yards and it was actually over almost twelve hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards For Eric McAllister out OF. Tcu he had seventy
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  Speaker 2: two catches for eleven hundred and ninety, yards sixteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half per. Catch he also scored ten. Touchdowns, Now
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  Speaker 2: Utah state did a lot of the same thing That
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  Speaker 2: utah did last. Year you get close to the red,
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  Speaker 2: zone you get down in there in plus plus, territory
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  Speaker 2: you're going to try to run the ball. In you
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  Speaker 2: have a rushing, quarterback you have quality running, backs you
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  Speaker 2: have a couple of big tight ends that you can
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  Speaker 2: utilize in those types of. Situations So Bradon pagan only
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  Speaker 2: had five touchdowns last. YEAR i say only BECAUSE i
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  Speaker 2: know that he would like to be a double digit
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  Speaker 2: touchdown kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, again putting it in.
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  Speaker 2: Context five touch downs is a little bit further down
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  Speaker 2: the list in terms of production in last Year's Big.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve that makes you a top twenty. One you'd be
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  Speaker 2: tied for twenty first with the likes Of Jace brown
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  Speaker 2: And Emmanuel Henderson junior and some of those, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Those those headline. Names. Absolutely, Oh Parker kingston is also. There,
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  Speaker 1: hey there you.
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  Speaker 2: Go you actually the receiver with the most similar numbers
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  Speaker 2: in The Big twelve last year To Braydon pagan in
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  Speaker 2: The Mountain west last year Was Parker. Kingston, okay he
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  Speaker 2: was sixty seven, catches nine hundred and twenty eight, yards five.
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  Speaker 1: TOUCHDOWNS i mean it's almost. Exact pagan a little bit
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  Speaker 1: taller Than parker, though, Right, Yes parker seemed to be,
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  Speaker 1: yeah more of a speedster. Type, yeah all, Right so
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  Speaker 1: now we do. It do the same thing For Kyrie.
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  Speaker 2: Scholz his touchdowns way down. There he's only only scored
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  Speaker 2: two touchdowns last, year, which, honestly what do you do
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  Speaker 2: In San Jose? State the fact that he only had
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  Speaker 2: two touchdowns feels like some kind of scheme. Neglect he
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  Speaker 2: had fifty nine receptions last, year so that puts him
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  Speaker 2: right there in that top eight category in The Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 2: CONFERENCE i think the most likely people to be wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver number one.
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  Speaker 1: Are guys that are newcomers to the. Program.
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  Speaker 2: NOW i love that the coaching, staff and not just
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  Speaker 2: the offensive coaching, staff by the, way but the defensive
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff. ALSO i love that they're, like this might
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  Speaker 2: be the best wide receiver CORPS i can.
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  Speaker 1: Remember at The university Of. Utah there is some coach speaking.
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  Speaker 2: There there is some sort of typical Everything's kumbayan happy
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  Speaker 2: in a preseason type stuff going.
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  Speaker 1: On but we were out there at spring. Ball they
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  Speaker 1: have some playmakers and a Healthy devin Dan pier can
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  Speaker 1: deliver the ball a lot more. Reliably and failing, That.
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  Speaker 2: Ficklin he delivered some absolute dimes when we were. Watching
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  Speaker 2: So i'm still to be a. Realist i'm still going to,
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  Speaker 2: say prove it to, me you guys that were productive
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  Speaker 2: at a lower.
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  Speaker 1: Level i've said it many. TIMES i will die on this.
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  Speaker 1: HILL i would rather have this, guy.
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  Speaker 2: The guy who overperformed at a lower, level than a
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  Speaker 2: guy who underperformed at the same or high level at
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  Speaker 2: his previous, school at his previous.
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  Speaker 1: Stop there seems to be and maybe this is just
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  Speaker 1: a feeling that we're all reading into, it or THAT
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  Speaker 1: I i'll speak for, myself That i'm reading into. It
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  Speaker 1: but in that, situation a guy who's trying to play
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  Speaker 1: himself up there seems to be more of a, motivation
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  Speaker 1: the more of a hunger to prove themselves at each
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  Speaker 1: level that they are able to go up right and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately at The power for, level Like shoals And pegan
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  Speaker 1: now find themselves at the guys who underachieve already at
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  Speaker 1: The power four, level maybe in The big ten OR
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  Speaker 1: sec a little bit higher power level than The big
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  Speaker 1: twelve in most, years and then land in The big
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  Speaker 1: twelve or acc those, guys maybe that hunger's not there
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  Speaker 1: because they were already at the top right and they're just, like,
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  Speaker 1: well let me just let me just try to be
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  Speaker 1: at minimum of something close to WHAT i was expected to,
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  Speaker 1: be while these guys that are coming up from The
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  Speaker 1: Mountain west and other group of, five group of six
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  Speaker 1: conferences are like they still feel like they have to
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  Speaker 1: prove themselves once they get. Here maybe that's what it.
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  Speaker 1: IS i don't. Know my sincere hope is that the
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  Speaker 1: prove it bug got planted In Tobias merriweather aggressively last.
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  Speaker 2: Year, NOW i don't know if he's got. IT i, don't,
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  Speaker 2: RIGHT i. DON'T i have no ill will against the.
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  Speaker 1: Kid it just.
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  Speaker 2: Happens sometimes your athleticism and your, competitiveness your athleticism and
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  Speaker 2: your skill don't match. Up it's one of the most
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  Speaker 2: frustrating things to see at any level of, sport at
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  Speaker 2: any level of, football especially Right we've all experienced. This
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  Speaker 2: if you came up in the football, world you had
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  Speaker 2: a guy that played on your team who was the,
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  Speaker 2: biggest strongest and fastest, kid but he wasn't the best
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: player for some. Reason and if you were not the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: biggest and strongest and, fastest you were, like what's wrong with?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: You IF i had your, Body i'd BE nfl, bound,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Right and you're just and the coaching staff same. Thing
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: they're just, like who is this? Freak put him out?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: There and then they're, like why can't he do what
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: we're asking him to? Do why can't he translate those
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: god given abilities to success on the? Field and everyone
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: tries to fix it one way or. Another some coaches are, like,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: oh it's a technique. Thing let's really over index on your.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Technique some coaches think it's more of a mental. Approach,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: oh you gotta work on your. Confidence you gotta make.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Sure and sometimes the guy or the gal who's the
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: elite athlete just doesn't have.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: It they're just not built that. Way they're just not,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: trying like it's not in. Them AND i DON'T i
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: hope it's not the case With Tobias meriwether because he
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: can get. Open he was he was separating. Himself oh,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: see that was not the problem last, year at least
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in my. Eyes he he got separation between he and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the defensive. Backs it was he didn't seem to be
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: able to track the ball well to be able to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: put himself in a position to come down with. It
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and that was especially important last year as we talked
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: About devin playing hurt a lot of various lower body
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: injuries being one of the reasons why his balls were,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: shorter and so he needed receivers who could track the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: ball and after they got, separation come back to the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: ball a little bit or just put themselves in the
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: position to come down with. It and for whatever, Reason
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: tobias was just not good at that last. Year and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: maybe he. WASN'T i DIDN'T i didn't pay much attention
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to him At cal And Notre. Dame BUT i would
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: guess that he probably wasn't very good at that at
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: those places, either or he might have stayed at those.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Places in the two, seasons, sorry the three seasons he
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: was At Notre dame And cal, combined he had a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: total of twenty six receptions for four hundred and fifty
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: yards and four. Touchdowns, look just being on the field
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: getting something, done scoring a touchdown at that level of,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: football that's impressive as.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Hell most people can't do. It most people are not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: good enough to do, that even guys who were in college.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Football it's hard to crack a. Lineup it's hard to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be a. Starter it's hard to be somebody that a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: coaching staff at a quarterback. TRUSTS i hope That Tobias
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: merriweather listened to like this show last.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Year it was, Like i'm gonna go prove that, old,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: old fat white idiot. Wrong his parents, Were his dad
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was very active on social media last.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Year, right you guys got it. Wrong just, watch just, watch,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: yes please prove us.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: WRONG i would Be there's nothing that could make me
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: happier then a guy getting his legs under him figuring it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Out maybe he has special chemistry with a. Coach Maybe
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: devin Dan pierre figured out something how to like get
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: him out of his own. Head whatever it, Is Maybe
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: morgan scally is a better kind of. Coach one, thing
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: one thing that's really really tough with a coach Like
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Kyle whittingham and his.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Non communicative style.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Is when you start to lose his, confidence when you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: start to lose his, trust it just it puts you
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: right in your head because what you get is him
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: kind of giving you a side die.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: At, practice or, like oh my, gosh.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Shake the head and walk away kind of thing because you,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: suck or if you're, lucky he cares enough and he
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and he believes in your ability enough that he actually
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: will yell at you for a brief second and then walk.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Away and then you're just in your head just, like
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: oh my, Gosh i'm not gonna hear anything from him
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: for the next four or five six.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Weeks what's he saying to my position, coach what's's saying
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback, coach what's he saying to the, coordinator
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what's he saying to everybody? Else, like, Right, MORGAN i
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: think could.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: His coaching, style as what little we know of it so,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: FAR i think might be better for guys like.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: This it's gonna be he's gonna do make more of
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: an effort to have more. Conversations maybe, WELL i think
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: he's just like, like it's not even an extra. Conversation
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it's just like when he does give you, feedback it's more. Information.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah and Because Kyle whittingham is a is a great football, coach,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Undoubtedly But Kyle whittingham suffers no, Foolishness he has no.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Patience he's this ultimate tough, guy this ultimate, competitor and,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: HONESTLY i don't think he really EVER.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think he ever got a good understanding of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the mental distress that the modern day college football player experiences.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Because that's not where he comes. From and that's.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Fine Like Kyle whittingham did a damn good job of
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: saying all the right things the whole way, THROUGH i
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: don't know that if there was ever really a deep
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: understanding of like.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: What these guys.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Need AND i think the best example of that was
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the Whole Cam Rising Brant keithy coming back from injury.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Thing it was just like A i'm not just not
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: gonna say anything You none of you are entitled to any, information,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: right instead of being, like, hey, guys let me go
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: die on a hill for my, Kid let me go
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: die on a hill for my, Quarterback let me go
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: let me be the shield if you want to be
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: if you want to be, critical criticize me promising that
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: he was going to be back sooner you want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: be like because what ended up happening was it felt
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: like the doctor And rising were on one side of
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the argument And Kyle whittingham was on the other and just,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: like we're just, Waiting we're just we'll.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: See the one time he did comment on the situation
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: other than trending in the right direction kind of stuff
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: was the, doctor the infamous doctor and by the, way he'll.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: DO i don't Begrudge Kyle whittingham that really at, all
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: because the frustration was real and. Warranted BUT i think
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: for guys Like Tobias merriwether and anyone else who's been
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: in this program with injury problems or underperformance problems or,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: WHATEVER i Think morgan scally has a chance to be
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a better coach to milk more out of those. GUYS
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: i think he's less prone to just writing people. OFF
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: i think he's he's less prone to letting guys get
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: in their own head because of lack of. Communication Maybe
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: i'm up in the night about, this but WHAT i
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: THINK i know About Morgan scally and his coaching style
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and his communication, STYLE i think helps people like this.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Better Kyle whittingham's style is perfect for the, ballers for
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the dudes who are, LIKE i know exactly What i'm
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: supposed to.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: DO i have an insane work. Ethic i'm incredibly.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: TOUGH i know that the expectation is When i'm banged,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Up i'm gonna play through.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It those guys, thrive and you want all those. Guys
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you want a million of those guys in your. Program
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you don't want to recruit anything but those. Guys but
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: then sometimes you get someone who's a little bit of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a head, case someone who's a little bit of a,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: like oh you're six foot, five look Like, tarzan play
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Like jane kind of a. SITUATION i Think morgan will
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: be better at getting that guy to where he's supposed to.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Be and my hope Is Devis merriweather inserts himself into
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: this conversation at some. POINT i think of the returning
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: players that are most likely to be in the conversation
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: for top wide receiver on this.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Team on the team this, YEAR i think It's Larry.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Simmons Creed whittemore is more of the slot. Guy his
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: size is. Limiting he's Not Brittain, covey not. Quite he
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: could be a guy because he's a slot.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Receiver he could be a guy that leads the team
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in receptions or gets near the top in, receptions but
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a top touchdown or yardage. Guy,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely he's limited in that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: WAY i Think Larry simmons is a guy that we
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: saw some just absolute flashes of brilliance from and while
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: it's not as obvious of a of a path as
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like The Kyrie shols and The Branden pagan, thing this
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: guy also previously a smaller. School he was At southern Miss.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Right he played in all thirteen. Games he really started
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: to come on kind of LIKE byu gaming later.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: He had he had like it seemed like maybe he
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: averaged one really good catch a, game whether it was
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in the end zone or on the. Sideline you've talked
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: To nauseum about his toe tapping, abilities WHICH i was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: enamored with last year as. Well it seemed like on
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: average one a, game even in the early. Going but
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: then you're. RIGHT i think you're. Right IT'S. Byu he
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: came up with a bunch of big grabs to keep
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the utes in that, game and it seemed like from
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that point on he, Started devin was able to find him.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: More.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: So my hope is That Larry, simmons the curse on
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: him last year was the routine catch was not his.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Thing that the, spectacular Acrobatic, oh let's go to the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: replay and see if that toe got tapped. Down that
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: was where he. Excelled you need. That you need a
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: guy who could make those, catches but you also need
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that guy to be like a routine.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Ten yard. Out i'm gonna catch this every single, time
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a routine like find the hole on the, zone little button,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: hook turn, around catch that, ball and the first guy
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: there is the one who tackles you. Like you need
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that guy who could just help you move the sticks
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: without it having to be some like, grandiose insane. CATCH
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: i love that he's got the dog in, him the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: competitor in, him that he's gonna go get that ball
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: in those crucial. Situations but your number one wide receiver
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is both exactly. You you can't be the best receiver
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: on the, team or one or the best two receivers
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: on the team if you can't be trusted to be
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: consistent in all. Situations and that's that's the next step
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: we need to see From Larry. SIMMONS i agree with.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: YOU i think that he is the leader or the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: guy that should be looked at as uh the one
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: who could lead the team in receptions or touchdowns yardage
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of the returning. Guys BUT i also agree THAT i
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: IF i were putting money down for entertainment purposes only
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i WOULD i would Choose pagan Or shoals because
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: those guys just seem to Have they seem to just
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: make the most of their situation a little bit better
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: than guys Like simmons And wittemore who are and Certainly
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: tobias what meriwether of the guys those guys that are
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: returning to the team from last. Year SO i think
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people it's one of THE i
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think It's pagan Or shoals seems to be the reaction
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: for most. People And i'm if you're gonna make me
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: choose between the. Two i'll Say pagan because he's he's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: been more productive at the same level As, shoals But
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: SHOALS i would not be surprised at all If shoals
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: ends up being by far the best receiver on the. Team,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: okay that's.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Interesting on THE i said that BEFORE i looked at
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the updated poll, results which were we're not even an
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: hour into this. Yet pagan is six almost is fifty
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: eight percent of the votes right. Now simmons is actually thirty.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Percent shoals is under ten percent right. Now so maybe
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: my deduction of reaction on the text line is. Inaccurate
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: it's maybe It's pagan Or simmons for people eight seven
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: seven three five three zero seven Hundred utahs leading wide
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: receiver this, year WHICH i.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: When your coaching staff tells.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You, hey this is the best wide receiver room we ever,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: HAD i immediately become fascinated because someone has to be
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the lead horse in that. Race and if you've got
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the quote unquote best wide receiver room you've ever, had
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that means you also have a true number one wide
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: receiver in my, opinion by all. Means let's get some
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: committee stuff work committee work done here. Too spread the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: touches and the touchdowns. Around but we need to know
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: who the number one guy, is and that number one
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: guy's got to have something that looks like number one.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Numbers if you're lucky, enough we're lamenting at the end
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: of the season because it's, like, oh, man our top
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: receivers each had seven hundred and eighty.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yards that's not that. Great, well, individually that's not that.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Great, however if you got a couple of guys flirting
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: with a thousand, yards that means you had a really
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: productive passing. Game so if we're, lucky the number one
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: thing gets, convoluted gets diluted by the talent of both.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Players but we'll see eight seven seven three five three
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: zero seven. Hundred tell me who you think wide receiver
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: number one is going to be in This utah football.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Offense in twenty twenty, six we're five days, away well
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: six days away from camps starting up on the. Hill
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: we'll be on top of all of it with you
• 33:47
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• 33:50
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• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Right the last time we, talked we were still wondering
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Where lebron was going to end, up and now we
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: know he's In.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia do you like to fit very.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Much, absolutely it's a perfect fit for him right now
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: at this point of his, career and for the Seventy,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: sixes he gives them an unbelievable scoring option and also
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: the ability to make these teammates. Better so it makes
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: a bunch of sense both. Financially you, know for the Seventy,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: sixes they're a proud. Franchise the last time they won
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: the championship was nineteen eighty three and the last time
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: DURING Nba finals was a two thousand and one With Allen,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: iverson so it's been a long drought for An east
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: coach team that's a very Proud pride.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Organization So LEBRON i was actually somewhat surprised that this
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is the direction that he, took because you, know IN
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: la he played with some really talented players that at
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: times had injury issues and at times were not, available
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: AND i thought he might want to avoid associating himself
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: with another player, who while incredibly, talented is not super.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Reliable and of Course i'm Referencing Joel embiid. Here you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: AND i have talked about this.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Before it feels like Maybe lebron can get you over the,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: hump but not If Joel embiid is out for three
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: quarters of the season or half the season, Again AND
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: i wonder you know what you think about that about
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: him attaching himself to a roster that has been plagued
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: by their best players being.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Unavailable is That.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Joel embiid you mentioned earlier the second ago that last
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: season one he played six times consecutive, games so he's injury.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Prone so with that, said there's a risk involved By.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Lebron so he knows to his history as far As
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: embiid being, hurt and he's willing to take that. Risk
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: that the flip side of. It the good part about
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: it is That Teresa, max he's very. Good j edgecomp is,
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Excellent jell And brown an all. Star lebron is once
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: in a lifetime, generational and their bench is very. Good
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: here's the bench, Sewn Anthony simons off the, Bench Coatavius
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Cole pope off the, Bench Justin, Edwards Dean, wade and
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: a young big guy From nikobocus that are that signed
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: with the seventy six Is Ariel, Aporti so they have
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: a he'll be a backup. Center now you might go
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: one more. Guy as far as trying to get a
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: big just to help Out Joel. Lumbeith so there are
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: loaded other. Positions the question is Can lebron get them
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: over the?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Hurdle what would that look?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Like what would that take For Lebron, James because obviously
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: he's capable of giving you twenty plus on any given.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: NIGHT i don't know that he can do it for
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: eighty two games, anymore or if he's interested in doing
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: it for eighty two games, ANYMORE i probably wouldn't doubt
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that he's capable of. It but what does it look
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: like the role that they Expect Lebron james to play
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in order to push them over a championship?
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Hump, well it's playoff. Basketball he's judged by the playoffs
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: as far as his greatness and he's always produced. That
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: and so the question is always is can The sixes
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: right now go against The, nickelboxers the world, champion which
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: will be an intense rivalry. Held can they hold off The,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: celtics the Upstart Detroit. Pistons these are all teams that
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: are very. Good they're there staring at and They lebron his.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: World we're talking playing roughly seventy games during the regular,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: season averaging between twenty one to twenty three points a,
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: game dishing out seven, assists getting seven, rebounds and winning
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: on the road and in the, playoffs the exact same
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: metrics will be. Him as far as fourth quarter, plays
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: you AND i have talked off in the last three
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: years about him in the fourth. Quarter as an elite,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: player you're judged by making two way, plays and let's
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: That's lebron's as far as absolutely repertoire of doing. That
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: so that's why they got. Him his contract is absolutely attained.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: SHOW i saw a graphic the other day that twenty
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: six players make more money AND il and college basketball
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Than lebron makes this next year for the seventy six
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Ers john twenty six, players So lebron makes the. Listeners
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  Speaker 5: lebron makes next year three point eight eight. Million so
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: there's twenty six guys AND il college basketball to make
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: more money to.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Him that's completely, crazy but that's where we're at In lebron's,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: career but more importantly in college basketball.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Now much so it's. Fascinating the off season in THE,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: nba it's it should slow down usually the first week
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: like next, week should next Week august, fifth, sixth, seventh
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: eighth right around, there and so that's when it should slow.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: Down but, however there's still some guys out there that
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: haven't been signed or they're restrictive free, agents and they
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: they're waiting to try to get another offer or take
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: that qualifying offer from their present team and then what
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: played next season with the qualifying offer and then be.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Unrestricted july twenty twenty, SEVEN i just described To Jellen
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  Speaker 5: durham From Detroit. PISTONS i just described Also Benthic matherin
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: of The, clippers and also just DESCRIBED i just Described
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  Speaker 5: Peyton watson of The Denver. Nuggets those three guys all.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Restricted all three teams want to resign their, player but
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: they don't want to overpay. Traumatically and that's that game
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: with the agents right. Now they're, saying no, way all
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: client is better than the guys you have in your
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: team right now, overpaid and so that's where they're going
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: to try to negotiate and see how it all plays.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Out it's.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Fascinating Gordon james is our guest here on The sean
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: O'Connell SHOW espn seven ninety two ONE.
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  Speaker 1: Fm all, right so we talked about.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: This THE nba was kind of waiting for this Gigantic
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Lebron james shaped domino to.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Fall where's he going to end?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Up there were four or five teams that were in
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: pursuit Of Lebron james and hoping that they could fit
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: him in now because of everyone's knowledge that he wasn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: going to demand a huge. Salary it's not like you
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: left a ton of money on the books and now
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you've got to fill that. Hole but if you're The,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: warriors if you're The, timberwolves if you're one of, these
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: if you're The, heat you're one of these other teams
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that were hoping to Get, lebron where do you?
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Go?
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Now, okay now you, go you fall back now and you,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: study you study the different. Rosters and so someone out
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: there right now that everyone's trying to get is a
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: demud De rosen again won't command any money at, all
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: probably be this just the minimum ten year, contract which
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: is three point eight eight. Million so if you're if
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: you were The warriors type, people he's looking at him
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: and a guy Named Bradley beal that both guys are
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: would d value as far as with a low, contract
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: they're ready got paid a whole bunch of money of their.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Career and those guys are both shot, makers and so
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: teams are looking at them to see where they are
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: as far as getting. Them the wild caught Is Johnathan
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: kaminga not enough for Your. Warriors they're, ready had them.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Ready But taminga is a young talented guy that is
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: out there that The cavaliers are staring at of trying to.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Get but the question is always, says what are their?
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Numbers see right now Late, july Early. August there's the
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: leverage now is with the, teams not with the players
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: and the. Agents and that's when it gets so interesting
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: that you like so and so at a certain, number
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: but a different number you dislike them. Strongly but now
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: there's the leverage now has changed shifted. Dramatically now it's
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: team orientated versus the individual. Player, also we left out
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Purposely Dreymond. Green now Where lebron not With lebron going To,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: philadelphia he opted, out they're going to resign. Him The,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Warriors James harden opt out to see if clevelandan to
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Get Lebron, james and they're going to be sign them
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: also The. Cavaliers so again it's almost like the packing
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: order of THE, nba and now it's going to make fast.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Accelerate the guys now have less options as far as doing, Things.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Gordy when you're looking at the dust settling, on you,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: know these, rosters and we're getting a pretty accurate picture
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: of what everyone takes into the twenty twenty six twenty
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: twenty seven. Season has the power structure changed? Radically has
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: anyone jumped into contention on? Paper has anyone fallen out
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of contention on?
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Paper for, you, well no one's jumped. Out as far
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: as the top dogs are right there again is always
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: The spurs and The thunder in The. West in The
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: east now though the seventy six ers are way up
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: there also now with the with The knicks and also
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: The celts and The Detroit, pistons and they really Upstart Toronto,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: raptors who are vastly. Underrated Scottie bond is An All,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: star is a major, talent all around, game and they
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: could be a surprise. Team Also indiana tremendous. Organization you,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Know haliburton getting, hurt missed the whole. Season now they're
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: back in. Play and so those are the teams that
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: are all gonna. Think in The, east they think that
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: they can regain some either either regain structure or add to.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: It and in The, west everyone else is trying to
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: catch up to the to the to The thunder and
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: also The. Spurs The west is bunched, up and The
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: jazz are right. There everybody's literally you're gonna make a.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: Discussion they're all good, teams but not elite right. Now
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: so the question is always with The, nuggets with The,
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: clippers with The, suns with The, jazz with the T,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: wolves with The, lakers everybody is really truly bunched. Up
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: and we'll see how it all plays. Out it's going
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: to be. Interesting there's no more tanking. Anymore that it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: very hard to do that as far as the rules
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: and that now it's going to. Be it's going to
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: be really much more intense the. Games so to win
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: sixty games would be, very very, difficult and the winners
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: probably be more like in a fifty seven to fifty
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: eight range versus sixty, two sixty, three sixty, four which
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: will match it much more fun for the.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Fans, gordy there's a bunch of hilarious videos out there
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: and people have to react When Nikola jokic he's happier
• 45:44
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• 45:46
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• 45:49
  Speaker 2: is just a high hilarious dynamic of his. Career but
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: when players have these like off the court, passions things
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that they're really really, into like he is into his,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: horses what is the appropriate role for a team to
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  Speaker 2: take in? That do you just stay out of it?
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Completely do, you, like you, know if you know this
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and the guys on your roster and you're coaching, him
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: are you having horse racing conversations with a guy at,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Practice like what's the right way to either lean into
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: this or avoid?
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: It, no you lean into it as an organization that
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: star player has a certain passion and also economic rawthal
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: to do these. Things and you, know as a person
• 46:28
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• 46:32
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• 46:36
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• 46:40
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• 46:42
  Speaker 5: with different sports people love order. Racing so that'd be
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: a class example of people indy five hundred type situations
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: where they really Enjoyed Brad, daugherty FORMER Nba All star,
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: player was a great player in THE. Nba he had
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: a passion for indy five hundred auto. Racing he wore
• 47:01
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• 47:05
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  Speaker 5: Driver AND i remember The cavalier people all the time
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  Speaker 5: talk to him about, it that he loved. It you,
• 47:14
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• 47:16
  Speaker 5: he actually was financially involved into. It and also he's
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: a passion for. It and that's what do you. DO
• 47:22
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• 47:24
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• 47:27
  Speaker 5: time about you, know his trucking, industry et, cetera all
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: the different things that are called it in the off,
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: season to really enhance himself and also take take his
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: mind off sometimes, basketball sometimes you're so driven by a
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: situation that you're overwhelmed that you need some other slight
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: outlets to occupy some of your. Time that when you
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: go back to the main thing you always, do there's
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: a truly a break in it in a good, way
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: and then you go back to much more. Passion all the.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Time it's that fine line. Invisible it's based on your personality.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Certainly also, Two, corty what's your list? Today my list
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: today right on que About Nikolai yogis and other, people
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: the fifteen greatest all around players of all. Time, So,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: Sean i'm looking forward to people harassing, You, sean either
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: via text or on the street about this list right,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: now the fifteen greatest all AROUND nba players of all.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Time you could have fifty guys in this. LIST i
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: counted to fifteen hit the quick criteria one, scoring two,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: passing three defending including shop, blocking four rebounding five end
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: of game clutch two way. Plays and that's the think
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: of an end of game clutch two way Plays number.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Fifteen Oscar robinson one, championship, Fourteen greatest player of all,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Time Kevin durant with two, championships, thirteen greatest, Player shaquille
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: O'Neal four, championships number. Twelve time a team allows you
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  Speaker 5: one two, championships number eleven all, Time Nikolai jokic one,
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: championship number ten all. Time Steph curry four, championships number
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: nine all, Time Larry bird three, championships number eight all,
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Time Tim duncan five, championships the seventh grade player of all.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Time Bill russell eleven championships in thirteen, years number six all,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: Time Magic johnson five, championships number five all, Time Kobe
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: bryant five, championships number four all, Time Wilt chamberlain two,
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: championships number three all, Time Kareem Abdul jabbar six, championships
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: the second grade player of all, Time Lebron james now
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: the seventy six is with four, championships and the greatest
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: player of all TIME nba basketball History Michael jordan with
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: six champion being chips, Quickly Bill russell, again people won't
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: really see him because he passed away a few years
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  Speaker 5: ago and he retired such a long time, ago But
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: i'll reach You Bill russell statistics just, quickly so the
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  Speaker 5: director to really realize how great he. Was Bill russell
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: five Time LEAGUE mvp ten to zero in game sevens
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: and history of, basketball the greatest all. Time he averaged
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: fifteen points one points per game and twenty two point
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: five rebounds average for his. Career and in block, shots
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: nobody knows because they didn't keep block shots until nineteen
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: seventy three seventy four, Season so just, guestimating he'd have
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: probably per game blocks like four per. Game wemby has
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: like three right now one time marking and blocked five
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: point of three shots per in his, Season So Bill
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: russell would have like four blocks per. Game that's how
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: great he. Was but the list is unbelievable because you
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: could add twenty five other guys and have the same debate. Though, Thus,
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: sean that's my list of, Today gordia' the.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: MAN i always appreciate your, time, Sir thank.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: You Thanks. Sean peace out by.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Now wonderful stuff as always From Gordon. Chieza lebron has
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: found a new home and we can move on about
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: our lives AS nba. Fans all, right we.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Have a special trait for all of YOU byu fans out,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: there or all of you fans Of utah who like
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: to hate on everything that happens WITH. Byu you will
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: not believe who's going to be the analyst on one
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: of THE byu football games this.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Fall i'll tell you who it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: Is.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Next it's The sean O'Connell show ON espn seven hundred
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and ninety TWO.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Fm you're tuned To The sean O'Connell. Show from The
• 51:52
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• 51:56
  Speaker 4: one a half.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Am, oh, CONGRATULATIONS Cbs.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Sports CONGRATULATIONS byu, Fans you've got one of the least,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: interesting least charismatic individuals calling the game for you next.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Year it's actually it's not BYU's fault at. All BYU's radio.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Broadcast they do a fine, job. Right it's the epitome
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Of Homer. Radio AND i don't say that as an.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Insult when you're tuning in to the local, broadcast your hometown,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: team you Want Homer, radio. Right Greg rebel does a,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: phenomenal phenomenal. Job Hans olsen does a phenomenal. JOB i
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: don't know who the sideline guy. IS i Forgot, sorry.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, too, though if you're, listening you
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: can text us to remind us who you.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Are, Yeah but the national broadcast and this is, unfortunately
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: this is your lot in life as A big twelve,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: team as a you, Know West coast, team as A
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Mountain Times on. Team whatever the blame falls, on it's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: just it's just part of.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Things. Right every once in a while.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You get the, terrible terrible broadcast crew on your.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Games the guys, that.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: For whatever, reason even in The year Of Our lord
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty, six have not taken the fifteen minutes necessary
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to learn pronunciations Of polynesian. Names when you're calling like
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: A university Of arizona VERSUS byu, game or A hawaii
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Versus utah, game they're still just, Like. NOPE i don't
• 53:35
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• 53:38
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• 53:42
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• 53:43
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• 53:54
  Speaker 2: every once in a while you get these terrible broadcast.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Teams BUT i think that that's what you GOT byu For.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Week. Two Brian, kelly the Former Notre dame AN lsu head,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: coach has been hired BY cbs to be a booth
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: analyst and a studio show analyst for this upcoming football.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Season he'll be On Inside College football On tuesdays and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he will be doing, games including a week zero Game
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville State North Dakota state that is In, Fargo North.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: DAKOTA i like that they're making him cut his teeth
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: One he's also going to Call Texas Tech Oregon.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: State that is A week two. Matchup So week three
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: is when we will SEE byu At Colorado state ON.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Cbs Brian kelly is going to be on the. Call
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: THIS cbs OR Cbs Sports. Network this is ON Cbs
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: SPORTS Cbs Sports. Net, okay so.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Yes well The it's Network tuesday Show Inside College. FOOTBALL
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  Speaker 2: I i, IMAGINE i don't. KNOW i JUST i wasn't
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  Speaker 2: AWARE Byu Colorado state if it's On BIG cbs or
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  Speaker 2: LIKE i would, GUESS i would GUESS Cbs Sports network
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE i THINK i Think BIG. Cbs his only deal
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: is with is With big ten. Games but, anyway, yeah
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: that is that is gonna be. Terrible AND.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I know that we should be giving a first time,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: broadcaster a guy who's been a successful coach and is
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: no doubt has good, insights, right some benefit of the, doubts
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: some grace before he even calls a. Game but like
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: everything that we know about his public's persona is that
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: he is he's he's got a terrible public. PERSONA i
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: not a Great he's not a great, Orator so why
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: would he be a good? Analyst that is he gonna
• 55:52
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• 55:54
  Speaker 1: of his.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Reputation WHAT i want to see is him when he
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: gets pulled in to like A Jacksonville state. Situation, right
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you're down? South are you? Now are you bringing back
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: your foghorn leghorn southern? Accent what a great game we have?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Tonight is he gonna pull that? Out if he's like
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: if he's on A byu. Game is he gonna talk
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: in The utah? Vernacular is he gonna talk like he's
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: from talk like he's From San Pete? County what a
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Great what a great night we're gonna have in the.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Mountains you gonna gonna throw some mountains in. THERE i
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: feel awesome about this, Game phil F i L L
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: i FEEL i feel.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: GREAT i think this game is gonna be a big
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: deal for both of these. Teams everything is for sale
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: in college football these. Days he just comes up with the,
• 56:48
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• 56:52
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• 57:00
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• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Jackson over another Dirty soda is at The Fargo dome
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: so he. DOESN'T i guess he's got to talk like
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: he's gotta talk like he's in the Show fargo when
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: he's on that. Game, Yeah North dakota. Accent better start
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: working on, It Brian. Kelly if you're gonna do it
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: for THE lsu, folks you better do it for The
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: North Dakota state.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Folks, yeah don't screw it. Up The. Bison, OH i
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: cannot wait for. This you know. WHAT i actually want
• 57:30
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• 1:04:42
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  Speaker 2: Am eight seven seven, three, five three zero seven. Hundred
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  Speaker 2: tell me who you Think utah's number one wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: a poll out there on the tweet. Machine we'll update
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: you on the results. Here so, far it's only been
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  Speaker 2: live for an hour or, two not even two hours.
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  Speaker 2: Yet so, far sixty one percent of the votes say
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  Speaker 2: That Braden pagan will be the number one wide, receiver
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: their leading receiver For. Utah he has the most production
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  Speaker 2: of anyone on the roster.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Not in A utah.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Uniform, obviously he's excellent At Utah. State big body. GUY
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  Speaker 2: i think he's got a great chance to be the.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Number one wide.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Receiver Kyrie sholz coming in at five percent of the,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Vote Larry simmons our, Guy Larry, Simmons oh toe, tap
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  Speaker 2: And larry thirty one.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Percent creed Would moore slash other under three. Percent now.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: And, again it's unfair to reduce it to these four.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: GUYS i think that there's certain tight ends that will
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  Speaker 2: want to be at least in the Discussion utah has.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Had you, Know Dalton kincaid was a leading wide receiver
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: for the. Team Dallan bentley last year was the second
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: leading wide receiver for the team if that guys step
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: up from that, position and obviously positionally now in college,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: football there are a lot of teams that lean, very
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: very heavily on the tight.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: End but all we've, heard not all we've.
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  Speaker 2: Heard a lot of what we've heard this off season
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  Speaker 2: has been, man this wide receiving corps is really truly
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: excellent for The university Of. Utah this group is better
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: than we were used, to is better than we've, had
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: and the hope is that that is one hundred percent.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: True you got to wait to see how it plays.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Out if you were able to Translate Brandon pagan's numbers
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: from last year At Utah state directly over to The big,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: twelve which is debatable by, itself of, course because inferior defensive,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: competition we don't know How Devin Dan pierre will stack
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: up Against bryce And barnes when it comes to his
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: relative accuracy that kind of.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Thing but it would have been a top eight wide
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: receiver performance From Branden pagan in the conference last year
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  Speaker 1: if it does numbers translated. Directly, ACTUALLY i don't remember
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  Speaker 1: that the last Time utah had a top eight wide
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: receiver in their conference you'd have to go back to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: when THE pac twelve days was It Darren? Carrington let's find,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: out shall we.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Receiving where that it didn't happen for anyone in the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: first year in The big. Twelve let's see in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Dalton had over nine hundred. Yards, right he had just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Under he had eight hundred and ninety. Yards kincaid had
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: seventy catches for eight hundred and ninety. Yards he was
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the seventh best wide receiver in THE pac twelve that. Year,
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  Speaker 1: insane year.
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  Speaker 3: Of.
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  Speaker 2: Receivers in twenty twenty two in THE pac twelve, Conference
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• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: hundred and forty five yards and seven. Touchdowns At arizona that,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Year Dorian, singer who eventually finished his career at The
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: university Of, utah had eleven hundred yards receiving six. Touchdowns
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Jacob cowing was At. Arizona he also had over one thousand.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yards this Was Noah fafita's like incredible year he had
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Ten he had one thousand and thirty four. Yards jalen
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: McMillan At washington also almost eleven hundred. YARDS usc Had Jordan,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Addison utah Had Dalton. KING i mean what a Year
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  Speaker 2: ucla Had Jake Bobo. Tetarolla McMillan was on That arizona
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  Speaker 2: roster and was their third leading.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Receiver That arizona team was stacked with receiving. Talent, absolutely
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  Speaker 1: up all they end up going other places after That
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  Speaker 1: SINGER usc and Then, utah as you, said but that
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  Speaker 1: Year so the last Time utah had.
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  Speaker 2: A top a top ten wide, receiver a guy who
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  Speaker 2: played the wide receiver position who was a top ten
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: pass catcher in the conference was THE covid. Year Britain
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: covey was number eight in THE bac twelve that.
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  Speaker 1: YEAR i would not have guessed That Britain covey was
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: ever that. High he. Was he was the the dumped down,
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  Speaker 1: guy the checkdown, GUY i SHOULD i should say the possession.
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  Speaker 1: Guy but there were a lot of games where he
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: he is certainly when he when he scored punt return
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: and kick return. Touchdowns oh. See but there were a
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: lot of games where he had more return yardage than
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: than receiving, yardage so that that surprised. Me but small
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: what five five game season that that can happen and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: in four games For Britain. Cubby SO i, mean it's,
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  Speaker 1: like as we have heard many coaches say that that
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  Speaker 1: you're basically did not. Count but that was the last
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  Speaker 1: time That utah had a wide receiver someone in that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: position room who was top ten in their respective. LEAGUE
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: i would guess that in a in a regular, year
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: in a full twelve game, year the last time was
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Probably Darren. Carrington but you're probably, Right, yeah maybe we.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: DON'T i. GUESS i GUESS i could spend more time
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: going through the. Archives but that is a it's a sobering.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Reality it's a sobering statistic For utah, football For utah football,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: fans and it's something That Morgan SCALLY i think deliberately
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: has been wanting to address as part of the program
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: identity moving. Forward he's a guy that wants to have
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: a truly balanced offense and that was always the stated
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: goal and that's always what the you, know The Jason
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: beck offense wanted to achieve and The Aaron rodericks offenses
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: wanted to achieve, it and The Norm chow offense wanted
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: to achieve. IT i, mean you go back to. Whoever
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: they always wanted to be truly. Balanced Coach ludwig wanted
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: to be truly. Balanced wide receiver has been a difficult
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: blind spot for The university Of. Utah and we're getting these,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: claims these DARE i say promises that this year it's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: going to be. Different the expectation now is that it's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: going to be. Different the expectation now is That utah
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: will be because Of kevin mcgibbon's, history because Of devin
• 1:14:06
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• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: room that you Have Pagan, Shoals, Whittemore, simmons et, cetera et,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: cetera that it's going to. BE i, mean we're not
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Expecting we're not expecting two thousand yard wide receivers and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: one seven hundred yard wide receiver like that That Cowing
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: teterro and McMillan and like That arizona. Room, Right you're
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: not expecting that it.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Doesn't you don't have to have twenty seven hundred yards
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: of receiving between three, Guys but you do want this
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: to no longer be the blind. Spot you do want
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: this to no longer be the weak. Spot AND i
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: BE i THINK i Think utah fans are gonna have
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: a weird time adjusting to, it because you're gonna be
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: sitting At Rice Cycle stadium at some, point go and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: run the dang, ball and this team is gonna. Throw
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: who's gonna be catching? Him eight seven seven three five
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: three zero seven. Hundred text me who you think the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: number one wide receiver For utah will be? In what
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: we have been promised is a deeper, room a better.
• 1:15:22
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• 1:15:26
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  Speaker 1: is saying that they're going to be the number one wide,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: receiver but they believe That Daniel bray is poised for
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: a true breakout. Season they, said after torching BYU fo
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one, yards he barely touched the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: ball the rest of the. Season this year should finally
• 1:15:47
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• 1:16:37
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• 1:16:41
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• 1:16:44
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• 1:17:48
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• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:41
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• 1:24:40
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  Speaker 2: Well The Jersey patch for The Big twelve the month
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  Speaker 2: DEAL i know it, Doesn't AND i know that it's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: never realistic to think that whatever comes in for you
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: or your conference in The Big twelve is gonna be
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: on the same level as Like Ohio state level, TEAMS
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: usc level, Teams Notre dame level. Teams Ohio state AND
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: us or excuse, Me Ohio state And Notre dame both
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Announced Jersey patch.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Deals they're gonna pay double digit.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Millions they're gonna, pay according to multiple, reports up to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars per year For Ohio, state up to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: twenty million dollars per year For Notre. Dame Ohio state
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: is With Chase, Bank Notre dame was WITH sofi and,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: look those are, heritage blue blood. Brands utah is never
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: gonna get that. By you did a good job With.
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  Speaker 2: INTRADA i don't have a real number on. That i'm
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: told it's around five million a. Year, okay that's, nice
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Five billion's.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Good here's the. Thing you have undermined the ability of
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: everyone in your conference to negotiate for even half of
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: What Ohio state is, getting even half of What Notre
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: dame is, getting when you have sold the season for
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. Total i'm, Sorry Brett yormark And big.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: TWELVE i Know i'm supposed to be a good soldier
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: and go with the company. Line. Here one of the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: most embarrassing mistakes that we have ever seen a conference
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: make is That Monster Energy Jersey patch deal where everyone
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: gets slightly over a million dollars in the. Conference Notre
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: dame's deal for Just Notre dame is more lucrative than
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the Entire jersey deal for the Entire Big twelve. Conference,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: now there's plenty of people who are going to listen
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to this and, say, well, yeah that actually makes. Sense
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Because Notre dame as a college football brand is bigger
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: than The Big, twelve is better than The Big. Twelve
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the sum of all The Big twelve's parts do not
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: add up To Notre dame.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Football i'll listen to that. Argument, sure but good, GOLLY
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: i Want Big twelve Media days to Be august first next.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Year don't do it at the beginning Of. July don't
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: be the first one that goes. Out, hey, guys guess
• 1:27:27
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• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: everyone else just gets to laugh at your stupid decisions
• 1:27:34
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• 1:27:35
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• 1:27:41
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• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: think it's. AWESOME i don't know if.
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  Speaker 2: You can use it for the most meaningful games of
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  Speaker 2: the season in a conference. TOURNAMENT i would like to
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: see it used for regular season. Games Maybe i'd like
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: to see it used for other. SHOWCASES Nba All Star
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: weekend is a perfect spot for something like. That and,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: honestly give me like crazy graphics on a football field,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: too as long as it's not conference championship, game, like
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: make it the preseason, games make it the non conference.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Games. WHATEVER i don't, know but good, golly you really
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  Speaker 1: screwed this one. Up big.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Twelve EVERY unlv went out there and got three million
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• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: and get extra on top of The Monster energy. Deal
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• 1:28:49
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  Speaker 2: pays one million dollars for that billboard on the, freeway
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: are you gonna pay ten million for the next?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: One the next.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: Billboard i'm driving down, right and it's, like what's that real, estate?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Homie they always have three billboards in a. Row, yeah
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: so you gotta read the three of. Them they're not, going,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah i'll pay a million dollars for the first one
• 1:29:17
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:25
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• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: pay ten million dollars for the next.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: One on the way down nine to. Fifteen that's what you.
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  Speaker 1: Did you level checked yourself and you got even more
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: level checked By Ohio State Notre. Dame and that's. Okay i'm.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Fine if you get level checked by those teams BY,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: unlv that's embarrassing for.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: You.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Well, also even though Individually Ohio state And Notre dame
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: are bigger brands than The big, twelve in, total it's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: still just one school's worth of. Teams you're talking about
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: sixteen times that your deal should be more lucrative than
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: even the biggest brands one school, Deal like it just
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  Speaker 1: needs to. Be it's just, like because you just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: companies Like monster pay for like pay for what they're,
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  Speaker 1: getting and you basically told, them you know, what in
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: comparison to some of these other, things some of these
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: other schools were giving it away for. Free you know what's. Crazy.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: PROBLEM i looked at the articles reporting, THIS i saw
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: no mention of the fact that you now have to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Call Ohio state football, season The Chase Bank Ohio state
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: football season.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Just a jersey. Patch as far AS i, KNOW i
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: looked at The Notre dame, ANNOUNCEMENT i saw no mention
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: of it is now so Fi Notre dame. Football it's
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: just a jersey. Patch, hey you know what we're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Play we're gonna play a drinking game on the.
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  Speaker 2: Show it'll have to be neither of us in, vibe,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Right so it'll have to be like The Milk challenge
• 1:31:14
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  Speaker 2: The Monster Energy big twelve football, season you gotta chug
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  Speaker 2: like A i don't, know like a school sized carton
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• 1:31:30
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• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: for us to, do we we've gotta we've got to
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: take a you got a shotgunna can Of Monster. Energy
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: every time he says The Big, twelve it's just so.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Silly you screwed this one, Up big. Twelve AND i
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: am embarrassed That utah AND byu And colorado And Arizona
• 1:31:50
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• 1:31:52
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• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: is gonna play a part in this. YEAR i just stop. It,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: season don't reference that. Again it made no. Sense then
• 1:32:01
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  Speaker 1: report an in depth interview with the sho Hel tani
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  Speaker 1: Interpreter Epei, misuhara who initially gave the response or gave
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: the statement that show he had agreed to pay all
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: his gambling, debts and then he recanted that. Statement and
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: so now you, know you go a little bit further
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: down the rabbit, hole and maybe you come away with
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: a different. Conclusion maybe you already feel like Show hay
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: himself was gambling and he just had a fall. Guy
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: maybe you are A dodger fan and you're like that
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Shoe hay would never do, that and this could change your,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: mind but probably. Not, yeah so. Interesting THE espn article
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: that details, This i'm sure you've you've read as. Well
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: see it says that it reminds us that the first
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: interview That Tisha thompson did With ipaya at around the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: time of this scandal, breaking he, says Show, HEY i
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: asked Show hey to pay my gambling debts because we
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: were like, brothers we're best, friend we'd become best friends
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: and Show hey agreed to pay those, debts which would
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: have been which would have been really bad for Show,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: hey even if that part was. True right, then less
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: than twenty four hours, later she sits down with him
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: again and he says he basically tells HER i. LIED
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: i lied it twenty four hours, ago and he recanted
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: much of what he. Said so that's an interesting. Part
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: there's a part in the. Article in THIS espn, article
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: it says THE us attorney who was prosecuting this, case
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: one of the attorneys of prosecuting this, case said that
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: first interview is so damning to our. Case it ended
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: up working, out but he's, like that was so hard
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: to overcome because he he said that it was Show.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Hey it was not. Me it was Show hey paying these,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: debts paying my gambling. DEBTS i didn't steal the, money
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: and that was. There that were the, charges, right was
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: was a theft and, anyway he, said that was so
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: hard to, overcome even though less than twenty four hours
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: later he said he admitted he lied and recanted basically
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: everything everything he. Said so some interesting stuff in there
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: in the. Podcast i'm. INTRIGUED I i Think i'll listen to.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: It oh see what about. You, Yeah i'll probably listen
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: to see IF i can get any new details on
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: this whole. Thing but why does it have to be
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: six parts? Long, yeah it's a it's a that's a. Lot.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez would you if If morgan scally wins a national
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: championship at The university Of, utah would you get his
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  Speaker 2: face tattooed on?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: You eight seven seven three five three zero seven Hundred
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  Speaker 1: Mark cucarella Of.
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  Speaker 2: Spain he told the, media if we win The World,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Cup i'm gonna get my coaches face tattooed on my.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Body and guess what he? Did he followed. Through he followed,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: Through you got a portrait of a black and gray
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• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: TATTOOED i think on his. Leg SO i need that
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: to be like plast like one of those things that
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: accidentally get or not accidentally unintentionally becomes like a huge,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: thing like it's graffitied. Everywhere now the the caricature of
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: his tattoo is like all Over. SPAIN i need. THAT
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: i need to become some kind of on, it like
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  Speaker 1: shocking movement that like, yeah this our guy got the.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Tattoo so now his so now coach's face is going
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  Speaker 1: to be plastered everywhere in the whole. Country all, RIGHT
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  Speaker 1: i Think i'll commit to.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: That If Morgan scalley can win a national championship this,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Year i'm getting A Morgan scalley face, tattoo face, tattoo
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: not on my, face but of his.
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  Speaker 1: Face of his.
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  Speaker 3: That was.
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  Speaker 1: Good i'm glad you for your. Sake can't get any face.
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  Speaker 1: TATTOOS i can't get any face. Tattoos can't do. It
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  Speaker 1: and we're Gonna we're gonna take one of those homie
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  Speaker 1: billboards And i'll get out of.
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  Speaker 2: It i'll get a tattoo Of Morgan scalley's face over
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  Speaker 2: my face so.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me look Like Morgan. Scalley there you. Go
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  Speaker 1: you could be the coach Of. Utah that. Happened that's
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: dedication from a player to his. Coach look if we
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  Speaker 2: Duck telemos sent you all. Right The Big ten media
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  Speaker 2: days are going on right. Now they still do a
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  Speaker 2: preseason media poll in The Big.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: TEN i, KNOW i, know but we are going to
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: talk about it. Briefly next it's The sean O'Connell show
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  Speaker 1: ON espnma.
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  Speaker 4: ninety two ONE.
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  Speaker 1: Fm all, RIGHT i know that we're all moving. On
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Kyle whittingham and the former a lot of former utes
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: are now In Mazon blue At. Michigan let's all admit
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: to ourselves that we'll be keeping at least half an
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: eye on what's going on. THERE i certainly will be
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: the uh the.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: Preseason media, poll which is worth the paper that it
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: is printed, On and we don't really print him, anymore
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: SO i guess it's worth even.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Less now.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: Has michigan football coming in fifth in The Big ten,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: CONFERENCE a lot of people think that it's a three
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: team race right now Between, Indiana Ohio, state And. Oregon,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: indiana the returning national, champs certainly lost a lot from
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: that very experienced team that was made up of a
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: lot Of James madison. Guys but they reload and their
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: recruiting is looking really good moving. Forward they just got
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: the top wide receiver in the. Class they got a
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: big d. Lineman Kurt signetti and company are. ROLLING i
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: don't know If Josh hoover is the same type of
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: quarterback That.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Brenanda mendoza was last. Year we're going to find. Out
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Ohio state right up there in the.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Mix of, Course oregon right up there in the, mix
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: And michigan comes in number five in the preseason, poll
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: right BEHIND. Usc they'll probably finish the seas the actual
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: season ABOVE usc Because Lincoln riley and The trojans are
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: usually paid For. Tigers the REASON i bring it, up
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: and probably it twist the knife a little bit and
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: hurts some of, you is because fifth in the, conference
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: in The Big ten is just nowhere near a good
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: enough reason to be. There when you're a coach in
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: your early, sixties mid, sixties when you are now in
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: the twilight of your, career you left your old program
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: in the, Lurch you left him in the, Dust you
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: took some things away you because legacy is fully intact
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: at The university Of. Utah the statue is going to
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: go up someday no matter, what but it probably delays the.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Process you hurt some feelings along the. WAY i don't
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: think he cares much about.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: That but fifth in the conference is just not anywhere
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: near enough to justify such a drastic, move even if
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: you take all that other context. Out it's, like not
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: even worth moving away from your grandkids fifth in the conference.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: If they don't overperform these.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Expectations even in year, One nobody on earth could convince
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: me there's not going to be a significant amount of
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: regret associated with that if you end up fifth in the.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Conference and by the, way the schedule Is Western, michigan
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: then It's, oklahoma then it's utep so three and oh
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: two and one.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: WHATEVER i was not going to be very good this.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: YEAR i don't Think iowa was the opening one opening conference.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: GAME i should say on the road To, Minnesota Penn
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: state at, Home indiana at, home on the road To
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: rutgers Hosting Michigan, state on the road At oregon HOSTING,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: ucla on the road to The horseshoe For Iowa State.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Michigan at the end of the, Year.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Indiana scary, Game Penn state somewhat scary.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: GAME i think That michigan still wins.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: That Ohio state obviously a terrifying, game road trip To Ottson, stadium. Yikes, now,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Look Kyle whittingham's more prepared than any other coach that
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: they could have hired to do that because he's done that.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Before but that.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: Is a tough, schedule and you Got oklahoma in week.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: Two that's a really tough.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Schedule, Interestingly oklahoma seventh in the SEC's preseason media. Poll
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: so and that that means there's still going to be
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: a really good. Team you finished seventh in THE. Sec
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: you might finish ranked, right so that's still still doesn't
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're not gonna be a very good. Team
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: the same is. True michigan in the fifth in The Big,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: ten absolutely, sixth With Penn state right Behind. Michigan with
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: In Matt campbell's first, year rockebec coming in From Iowa
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: state as, well they could finish rank to the sixth
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: best team in The Big ten if that's how they.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: Finish but, Yeah i'll say this, though being a top
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: twenty five team is nowhere near worth. It you have
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: to be contending for a conference in national championships in
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: the three years that you've got you have.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: To not only not only for what you're talking, about
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: the angle they were taking here for him personally to
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: feel like the move was worth, it but that's also
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: what the fan base demands at a place Like.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: Michigan so just thought that you might want a little
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: update on The Big ten preseason, poll and if you,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: didn't you're probably hate listening BECAUSE i gave it to.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: You, anyway.
• 1:43:41
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  Speaker 1: Got Chad jensen From Mile High huddle right now talking
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  Speaker 1: to Little Denver broncos who are for a lot of
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: people to de facto home team here In Salt Lake.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: City since we don't have one of our, Own, Chad
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: welcome back to The sean O'Connell.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Show how are, you?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: Sir doing great? Shot thanks for having.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Me, uh this is a we're the home of The, utes,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: obviously as you're, aware and this is A broncos team
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: that's got at least in the preseason. Roster they got
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: a chance of fielding a bunch of.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Utes here six guys right now listed on the preseason.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Roster of, Course Garrett bowles his spot is pretty. Secure
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: there's guys Like Caleb lohner who's sort of an experimental developmental.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Player you've Got Dallon, bentley the rookie coming. In, also
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: he's that tight end Position Karene, Reid Jonah. Ellis you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: got all these guys with the fringe type, players The
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: Caleb loners and a rookie and somebody Like Dallan. Bentley
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: what are the early reports about what The broncos think
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: of these?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: Guys man With, bentley, honestly he's in a little bit
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: of a log jam where it looks like rookie year
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: probable case for him is practice. Squad but, hey that's.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: Okay he's got some time to, learn and The broncos
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: they are high on. Him it's just a matter of
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: kind of guys that are a little bit ahead of
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: him on the depth. Chart Caleb, loner, however second, year
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: basically spent all of his rookie year on the practice,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: squad but learned a, lot developed a, lot even passed
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: up an, opportunity by the, way late in the year
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: to sign to another team's fifty three man pract roster
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: the active roster even though he was on the practice,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 3: Squad but he made good use of his rookie, year and,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: man he looked good in the. Offseason he ended up
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: missing a little bit of time because of a, surgery
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: so we're gonna see him in the flesh again this.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: Week But loner's kind of more of the dark horse
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: in terms of the tight. Ends ellis he could end
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: up being way more of like starter guy this year
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: because of the stuff that's going on With Jonathan, cooper
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: so as And reid by the, Way, RED i, mean
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: he's got as good of a shot at that number
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: three and number four linebacker spot as anybody on the.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Roster so it's looking pretty good for these kind of
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: fringe bubble. Utes and by the, way Go ute love.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: To hear THAT.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: I Mentioned Garrett bowles because you, know he's one of
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: the staple sort of leadership council type players on this team,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: now and his career In denver was not without. Complications
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: it was a rough transition early in his, career and
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: he's really cemented himself and obviously he's been rewarded for.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: That he's not as young as he once. Was he's
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: not yet, old but you, know football goes. Fast Garrett
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: bowles heading into his what this is tenth eleventh, year
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: he's thirty four years of. Age, now what's the prognosis
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: on The Garrett boules career from The bronco, Standpoint.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Well he's definitely turned the. Corner and that really happened
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: for him around twenty twenty is when he kind of
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: everything clicked for him and he STARTED i think, That,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: yeah that was the first year he got some Actual
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: accolade second Team All, pro but last year was the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: first time he got Both All pro recognition And Pro
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Bowl first Team All. Pro by the, way so he's
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: one of the best pass blocking left tackles in THE,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: nfl and as we all can remember from his time
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: as a, ute he's a mean run blocker And broncos
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: love that about. Him but the good thing about, hey
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: he's thirty four tackles nowadays that they can manage to
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: kind of avoid the injury. Bug they can play deep
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: into their, thirties you, know They so he's got some.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: Time the one good thing About bulls that kind of
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: helps in that respect, is AS us fans will, know
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: he served AN lds, mission only played one year Of
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: division one college. Football so for a guy that's going
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: going into year, ten the tread on his, tires he's
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: still got pretty good, tread you, know relative to his
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: time in the. League so he's just a phenomenal success.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: Story and you, know going back FOR i was just
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: writing about this the other, day just kind of reflecting
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: on that first two three. Years, man he was known
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: In denver As Garrett holds because of all the, penalties
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: leading the league in, penalties and it's like he just
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: couldn't get out of his own. Way and then, suddenly you,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: know that worn't turn for him in twenty twenty and
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: he's really developed into something.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: Special big picture outlook for this team right, NOW i,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: mean you've got you've always got to contend with the
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: division first and see where you're at, there and you,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: know we've we've seen some, movements some important player movement
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: in THE nfl offseason that could potentially either cement teams
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: As Super bowl contenders again or maybe inserting some people
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: into that. Conversation so the outlook for This broncos team
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: from your perspective on you, know how deep they can
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: make a, Run, well it's kind.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: Of tough because they're their first six. Weeks let's just
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: say the first half of their schedule is the toughest
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl there's no getting around. IT i, mean
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: they got to play The chiefs twice in the first eight,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: weeks they got to play The, rams The, jags The,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: niners The. Seahawks that's just the first eight. WEEKS i,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: mean it's. Brutal but the good news is the flip
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: side of that, coin they have the easiest second half
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: of the schedule and their two toughest games really in
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: the second half of the schedule are both at, home
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: which Is buffalo On christmas and then The chargers in
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: the season. Finale so if they can weather that early,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: storm and even if they emerge from the first eight
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: weeks at five, hundred you, know or. Better if it's, better,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: hey it's all the. Better BUT i like their chances
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: of at least win in the division because of how
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: tough their schedule is this time. AROUND i, mean they
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: get the first play schedule across the. Board plus THE
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: Afc west has drew THE Afc east and THE Nfc,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: west which produced five playoff teams last. Season that's. Tough
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: if they, start you, know they can manage that first eight.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: GAMES i think they'll finish, strong and they got a
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: really good chance of winning the division because you, know,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: newsflash The, chiefs The. Chargers they also have to play
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: the teams of THE Afc east in THE NFC, w
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: so that's kind of a little bit of a leveling
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: of the playing. Field so it might not be enough
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: just because of the. Schedule they might not be a you,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: know fourteen win team that gets the one seed. Again
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: BUT i actually really like their odds of repeating as division.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: Champs and then as you, know you get into the,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: tournament anything's. Possible so they're kind of in a posture of,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: man they feel like everything they worked for kind of
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: got robbed from them with the bow knicks, Injury like
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: right going into THE Afc Title. Game so as a,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: team their mindset is kind of not, revenge but kind of,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: like hey, man we're looking to make up for lost.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Time we're talking a Little Denver broncos football here With
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: Chad jensen From Mile High. Huddle as The broncos coming
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: off a really good, season but you did have an
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: injury at the most important position back In, january and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: that's always you, know the timelines on recovery are different for.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: EVERYBODY i hear Bo nicks is, cleared but what's the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: word on how smooth the recovery process has been and
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: the expectations of how quickly he can get back to.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: Form, yeah so there was a little bit of a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: blip in the in the. Situation so what happened was
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: The broncos, said, yeah, yeah he's going to go under the.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: Knife he's going to get surgery on his, ankle which,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: is by the, way the third time in his career
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: that he's fractured that right. Ankle but he'll be good
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: to go BY. OTAs and then about a month Before
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: OTA's not quite a, month but report broke that he
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: of course had to go back under the knife for
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: a little clean. Up procedure that kind of reframed his
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: time cable and instead of he'll be good to go By,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: OTAs the new message from the team was he'll be
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: good to go by training, camp which kind, of you,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: know set some uneasy feelings Within broncos, country but you,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: know there was not much To it was kind of
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: a much ado about nothing. Situation you got To. OTAs
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: he wasn't a, participant but in mandatory mini camp he
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: participated on both day one and day two and then
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: they cut it early cut to where we're at now
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: with training camps starting today That broncos reported, today Bo
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: nicks did. Not he was not placed on any of
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: the pre camp injury lists that you would if there
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: was any kind of limitation expected for a player due to.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: Injury so it appears that he's going to be good to,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: go like fully. Cleared he said at the podium middle
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: Of june during mandatory mini camp that he's, like, DUDE
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: i feel good enough to go now if they would let.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: Me the team, Said Sean, payton you know he'll be
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: cleared by the end Of, june so all signs point
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: to him being. Cleared but hey, man there's no way
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: of knowing for, sure right like with injuries the third
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: time on the, ANKLE i feel. OPTIMISTIC i feel confident
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: just from Everything i've heard and Everyone i've talked to
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: and just kind of reading the tea. Leaves but WHAT
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: i worry about is one of both, superpowers is that
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: mobility and pension for making things happen with his legs
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: when things break, down you, know doing stuff off. SCHEDULE
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: i hope it doesn't affect that in any, way but
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: it'll be some time yet before we'll really be able
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: to see if that's been compromised at. All and it might,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: initially you, know he might be a little bit slower
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: to do some of that stuff initially as he kind
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: of builds up his confidence in his. Body but according
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: to his off season throwing Coach Ben, neil who he
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: works with AT Qb country In, Birmingham, alabama that's a.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: Nonconcern he's been running, around he looks. Good so you,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: know we just got to lay eyes on it and
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: that'll happen this.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Week how Many Jalen wattle jerseys Are are we going
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: to see it mile high this? Year are people excited for? Him?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Thrilled, yeah, yeah, yeah that's definitely a common that's
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: got to be a common. PURCHASE i haven't looked at the,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: stats you, know in terms of the jersey sales and all,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: that But broncos fans are definitely thrilled because that's just
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: been one of the components missing from The bonnicks attack
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: is that, speed you, know not just, vertical but that
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: short area of. Burst and you, know he's a guy
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: that you can throw a, screen he makes a guy
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: miss and then watch, out he can go eighty yards
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: Like Damarius thomas back in the. Day so a lot
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: to look forward. TO i, Mean Davis, webb the new
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Who Sean payton relinquished play calling duties. Too
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: he drew some interesting parallels because you, know he was
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: playing in THE nfl as of twenty twenty. Two he
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: was a backup quarterback with The. Giants he told the
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: story just real quick that he's kind of reminded with
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: battle landing In, denver Bo nicks going into year three
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 3: of his time as the backup To Josh allen In
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: buffalo circ at twenty, twenty when The bills Acquired Stefon
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: diggs via trade and how that kind of Sparked Josh
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: allen's big year three leap and how he sees similar
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 3: things unfolding For boonicks And Jalen waddle this. Year so
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: it's exciting To.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: It always trips me out when a guy Like Davis,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: webb WHO i was covering when he was in college
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: not so long, ago gets a job this big offensive.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: CORN i, mean there's a handful of. Guys what there's
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: like a half dozen or more guys on the team
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: that are older than him that are still playing football
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: for This Denver broncos. Team BUT i, mean there's not
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: really a question. There it's just wild that we've trended
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: so much younger in coaching positions, now even at the, top.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: No doubt about. It and Even Sean payton he talked,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: about you, know age being a little bit of a factor,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: here that he thinks that in terms of being on
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: that cutting edge of innovation offensively in THE, nfl that
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: it really, is as much as it pains him to
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: admit it as a guy now north of sixties a
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: young man's, game and that he feels like some of
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: the you, know some of the problems he's, had especially
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: with Bo nix over the first couple of, years like
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: especially getting play calls in on time and stuff like.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: That he thinks, that you, know a lot of that
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: is due to his advancing. Years and one of the
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: first Things Davis webb did when he was given the keys, was, hey,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: MAN i got to streamline these play, calls like we
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: can't take you, know fifteen seconds just to get the
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: play call in and then for bo to relay that
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: in the. Huddle so they're streamlining that With Davis webb
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: making it easier to get the play call in so
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: That bow has more time to pre, snap read and you,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: know do what he needs to do before the ball's even.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: Snapped then the other emphasis is, tempo and if you
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: look back at Bo nix's you, know biggest moments of
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: execution and where he shined as a, pro you think
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: about like the fourth quarter comebacks and the situational. Football
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: he's a killer in the red. ZONE a lot of
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: that is when The Broncos Sean payton's had no choice
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: but to go tempo because they're behind or, whatever and Bo, nicks,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: man he just that's where he really. Thrives SO i
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: think you're going to see a little bit maybe not
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: Like Peyton manning circa you, Know Denver broncos twenty twelve
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: through fifteen no, huddle but a lot more no huddle
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: and high tempo offense to keep both in rhythm and
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: keep defenses on their.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: HEELS i know you said you think This broncos team
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: will win the, division and no reason not to believe
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: that heading into a, season but handicapped the rest of.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: It are The chiefs still The?
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: CHIEFS i, mean how how tightly contested do you see
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: this division?
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: BEING i honestly think The chiefs. Are they're going to
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: be a scary team once again this. Year LIKE i
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: think last year was the. OUTLIER i, think you, know
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: injuries and a lot of other things that piled, up
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: and you, know after so many years of just dominating the,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: world they kind of needed that reminder that they are
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: indeed human and, Fallible and With mahomes coming back off that,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: injury that's the biggest question. Mark BUT i think The
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: chiefs are. Hungry they're out for. Blood you, know The
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: broncos stole the division from him for the first time
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: since twenty, fifteen so all those intervening, years The chiefs
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: wanted to vision and CONSECUTIVE i mean it's basically a
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: decade long, rain and so they're they're, hungry they're. Pissed
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: they aren't as deep as they've been in some of
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: These Super bowl teams they've, had like especially on, defense
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: especially their, secondary although they did draft you, know a
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: corner really high six overall this. Year STILL i think
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: the secondary is a little bit. Questionable but, nevertheless that
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: offense is the is the straw that stirs the, drink
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: as we all, know And Patrick mahomes and all. That
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 3: SO i think they're very much the force to be
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: reckoned with that everyone should has kind of come to
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: know them. As but at the same, time this isn't
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: The broncos circa you, know twenty sixteen through twenty twenty.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: Two this is a different. Animal So Bo nicks would
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: be undefeated against The chiefs in his two years with
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: The broncos were it not for one freak like you
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 3: just boggling of the mind block field goal as time ran.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: Out that was chip. Shot so, ANYWAY i like The
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: Bronco it's not THAT i don't here The. CHIEFS i
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: think The chiefs are going to be back in full.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: Effect it's just that The broncos are on their level,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: now so it's gonna be a.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: Battle what About chargers And. RAIDERS i MEAN i could
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: see The chargers with another step. Forward i'm not a
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: believer in The raiders really until they give me a
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: reason to feel. Differently BUT i want your. Thoughts, yeah.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: DEFINITELY i mean it's really weird because we've Known Jim
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: harbach coached teams to be very, physical detail, oriented, discipline
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: all that, stuff and then they usually not only qualify
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: for postseason, play but hey, man they'd go deep and
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: they do their. Thing The, chargers though in the two
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: years he's been, there they still find that their way To.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: Charger you, know when the chips are, down whether it's
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: late in the, season but especially in the. Playoffs questions
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: Around Justin herbert as a playoff, quarterback like he sets
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: the world on fire during the regular season and then
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden disappears in the. Playoffs but you,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 3: know that's often the story on young quarterbacks and then
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: they have that turning point moment in their, careers like
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: that was if you can remember, back that was the
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: story On Peyton manning before two thousand and. Six you,
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: know he can't win the big. One he's you, know
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: comes basically can't do it in the, playoffs right, Whatever
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: so at some POINT i do expect that worm to
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: turn For Justin herbert and The. Chargers i'm just not
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: sure it's going to be this. YEAR i don't. Know
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: i'm not huge on what they did in the. DRAFT
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: i don't think they did that much to really improve
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: in free. Agencies so they're going to be a factor
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: and this could be a division that puts three teams
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: in the. Playoffs we'll see The raiders, THOUGH i mean
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: To biak is completely. Untested we don't know what to
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 3: expect from, him and The raiders just have, that you,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: KNOW i say The chargers are going to charge, her,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: well The raiders are going To raider as. Well we'll.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: See they've got a lot of talent Now, mendoza they
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: brought In Kirk. Cousins we'll see how that quarterback situation shakes.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: Out But i'm not too worried about The raiders this.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: Year is there a team that everybody in the, league
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: including The, broncos are chasing and Obvious Super bowl favored for?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: YOU i know that they're The, seahawks obviously coming off
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: of a very successful year and The rams are loaded
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: up personnel. Wise is there anyone that you're looking at
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: and saying everyone's chasing?
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: THEM i think in THE, afc you, know it really
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: is for The. Broncos, anyway it's The. Patriots. NOW i
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: don't think The patriots are going to have near the
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: success they did last, year just because people forget how
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: easy their schedule. Was like they didn't play anybody except The,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: bills and they only played The bills because they're in
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 3: their division in terms of the regular. Season SO i
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: think they're going to get a pretty solid reality. Check
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: BUT i do think that the coaching staff is of
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: equality And drake may is of a quality that they'll
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: weather that. Storm but they're not going to be another
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: fourteen win. Team but they are a team That broncos
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: want their revenge. On that is absolutely for. Sure they
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: want another crack at. That and then you, know, hey
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: we talked about The. Chiefs we'll see what The ravens
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: look like with the new young head coach And Jesse,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: miner and then, hey Can Joe burrow stay healthy and
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: The bengals be a thing once? Again and then of Course.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: Buffalo you, KNOW i guess IF i really got to
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: boil it, DOWN i go answer the. Question it's either
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: The patriots or The, Bills and The bills are the
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: ones this time, around you, know with a bone to
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: pick looking for revenge on The. Broncos so those are the.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 3: CLASS i think those are the teams that are the
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: class of THE afc that The broncos are gonna have
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: to worry about when they get to the tournament and playoff.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Seed probably is a weird, question but what is the
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: relationship between ownership fan? Base AND i guess you put
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: the players somewhere in that love triangle as.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Well with The Denver.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: Broncos right, now we're seeing all these stories in pro
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: sports of bad leadership and what it can do to
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: franchises and how it can erode a lot of good
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: win with fan. Bases and, SUDDENLY i, mean NO nfl
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: owner is ever going to be in a financial crisis
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: based on what we just saw from The packers financial.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: Statements but obviously there are levels to all of this.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: Stuff so how is that relationship right now In?
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: Denver you, know it's interesting you bring that up because
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 3: during The Pat bowlan, era it was the pinnacle of
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: trust and enthusiasm that fans had and faith in the
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 3: team and in. Ownership but then when he had to
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: step down because of his fight With alzheimer's and the
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: team went into what was called then The Pat Bowlan.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: Trust it was managed By Joe ellis at the, time
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: the TEAM, ceo which Was Pat bowlan's right hand man
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 3: for years and. Years it was supposed to be a
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 3: short term solution to help them figure out who within
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: The bowlin family was going to Succeed, pat but it
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 3: ended up just being this never ending thing and the team.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 3: Suffered they couldn't get it. Right the money wasn't, there
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: the cash to put to pay free. AGENTS i, mean
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: everybody the teams are all kind of slaved to the.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: Salary but the teams that have good cash flow and cash,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: reserves which is based on ownership and money and money
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: they make, available they tend to win a lot more
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 3: when it comes to free agents and keeping players, around signing,
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: bonuses stuff like. That and so The broncos that slowly
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: started to, erode and you saw it in the product
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 3: on the. FIELD i mean we're talking five win, teams
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: six win, team you, know a good year over that
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 3: stretch with seven wins and then when The Walton penner
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: ownership group took, over everything has. Changed like they have
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: invested in the. TEAM i mean they just unveiled them
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: a multi billion dollar, news state of the art facility
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: that The broncos players for the first time today are
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: getting to, experience and that's blowing their. MINDS i mean
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: it's out of this, world state of the, art cutting,
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: edge and so that combined with a lot of other
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: stuff like the improvements they've made to the, stadium the,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: turf they're looking at building a new stadium in The
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: Burnham yard area Of Old, Town, denver where it's going
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: to be kind of A bronco version Of Jerry world
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: with The Dallas, cowboys where it's not just the stadium
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: being a state of the, art but like an entire
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: kind of mini township that is meant to be like
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: A disneyland For bronco fans that's coming down the pike
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: sometime between now and twenty thirty. Two in terms of,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: completion they're still pretty much in the early. Phases BUT
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: i digress point Being Walton penner group they came, in
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: they invested in all the right, areas including the right head.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: Coach you, know spared no expense in having the money
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: ready to meet Whatever Sean payton's demands, were and now they're.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: Cooking you, Know it's a big reason why The broncos
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: have been able to turn the ship around over the
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: last couple of years is The Walton penner group sparing
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: no expense and just being a first class ownership. Group
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 3: so it helps that they are the wealthiest owners in
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: THE nfl coming from That walmart. Money but, man the
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: proof is in the. Pudding thirty three, wins well what, yeah,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 3: no thirty two? Wins pardon. Me over the last three
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 3: years Since Sean payton's been the head Coach Division crown One,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 3: seed there were A bonnets injury away from The Super.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: Bowl so that goodwill and that enthusiasm that was dimmed
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 3: someone In Broncos, country boil, boy it's back with a.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: Vengeance, well much to my, chagrin there are a lot
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: of people here In Salt lake that called this hometown
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: of Mine broncos country as. Well so, YEAH i think
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: a positive outlook for things In denver this.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: Year.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: Chad appreciate you giving us some time. Today we'll be
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: checking in throughout the, season all, right sound?
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: Good thanks for having me With Chad.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: Jensen go check them out at mile High huddle and,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: look there are six uts that could make this roster
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: that would make, them of, course the most ute laden
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: team in THE nfl if it all goes that. Way
• 2:07:47
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  Speaker 2: Season, well you just mentioned the coaching carousel and the transfer,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: portal and both of those had a massive effect on
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  Speaker 2: The university Of utah football program and where of course
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  Speaker 2: the flagship home of The. Utes one of the biggest
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: stories in sports in our state recently, is of, course
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: the departure Of Kyle whittingham for The michigan job and
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: the longtime air apparent the head coaching, Waiting Morgan, scalley
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: now takes the reins of this program officially for the first.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: Time of, course he coached The bowl, game but this
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: is his first.
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  Speaker 1: Season what do you expect from the. Utes.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well first, off huge congrats To Kyle. Whittingham what
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 6: a law incredible tenure For. Utah think of. It eighteen winning,
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 6: seasons eight ten win, seasons just a mark of. Consistency you,
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: Know i've been doing the magazine for most of those,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 6: years AND i knew WHAT i was gonna get every
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 6: year With. Utah it was a very physical, team tight,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 6: culture all those, buzzwords good locker, room all those. Buzzwords
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 6: but they back it up on the field the way they,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 6: practice the way they, play the way they, hit you,
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 6: know and the stadium is always rocking over. There the
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 6: camera literally shakes when you watch them ON tv on big.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 6: Plays SO i knew WHAT i was getting every year With.
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  Speaker 6: Utah and the thing, IS i think it's going to.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 6: CONTINUE i put there in the book this Year utah
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 6: is Still. Utah by Keeping Morgan, scalley it's All Lake. City.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 6: Now as the head, COACH i know that defense is
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 6: going to look as it always has and now maybe
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 6: some slight scheme changes on, offense but you've got your quarterback.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 6: Back you're running back back a lot to. Like so
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 6: Once utah going to look like it'll look Like utah
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 6: has for most of the last ten fifteen years. Now
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 6: some new faces on the lines of scrimmage are a
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 6: question for, Me but when has that ever really been
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 6: a question At. Utah if there's one spot that they
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 6: reload every, year it is those lines of. Scrimmage SO
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 6: i think you've got a top twenty five team again
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 6: despite the coaching, transition and then you, know an outside
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 6: shot to make it to The Big talk title.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Game it's a friendly schedule as far as we can
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: tell on, paper, RIGHT i mean The Big. Twelve you
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: never know what's really going to.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: HAPPEN a couple of years, ago we were all so
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: wrong about the preseason outlook that they stopped doing preseason
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: polls Because Arizona state went from last to first and
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: the real Results And i'm with. YOU i think that you,
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: know we probably all have it, handicapped similarly With Texas
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: tech AND byu And utah kind of in the mix.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: There how much of that schedule For utah factors into
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: the outlook for a successful year For Morgan scalley's.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 6: Debut, yeah it's definitely a favorable. Schedule and when you
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 6: look at the, CONTENDERS i agree with. You those are
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 6: really the three THAT i had my eye On Texas,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 6: tech IT'S dyu And. Utah AND i know there's no
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 6: media poll anymore down At Media, days but they did
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 6: a coaches, vote AND i was shocked to see that
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 6: the coaches PICK byu to win the. Conference, now you,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 6: know no knock ON, byu that they're certainly deserving us some.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 6: Hype but how do you pick Against Texas tech the
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 6: way that they dominated and steamrolled the conference last. YEAR
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 6: i think maybe it might be some off the field
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 6: politicking going on picking Against tech there At Media, days
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 6: but their talent is. Undeniable For, utah though you're right
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 6: about this, schedule it's very favorable for a transitional. Year
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 6: the non conference looks like three and. Oh the Tough
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 6: power four game Is arkansas this, year but that's a
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 6: team that's also going through a coaching, change massive roster,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 6: turnover and dead last projection in THE. Sec i've got
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 6: them sixteenth out of sixteen over. There so it's In
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 6: Salt Lake. CITY i see A w SO i see
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 6: three and, oh and then you look At big twelve
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 6: play opening, up And utah's first three games are against
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 6: my bottom three in the whole conference With Iowa state
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 6: my pick for dead last in The big. Twelve colorado's
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 6: second worst And kansas third, Worst so it really is
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 6: not outside the realm of. Possibility in, fact should be
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 6: should be a. Six and oh aren't heading into a
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 6: huge matchup With.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: HOUSTON i don't want to get too off track BECAUSE
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: i want to stay focused on the utes, here but
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: you just Mentioned colorado and the outlook is not great,
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: there and obviously we all got caught up in the
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: charisma train of Coach prime at one. Point and hopefully
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: his health is back to normal this coming. SEASON a
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: lot of struggles with that last. Year he's one of
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: the highest paid coaches in college, football And colorado's not
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: seeing the results yet and they're not expected to see
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: the results this coming. Season what does that mean For
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: colorado's future and for his?
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 6: Future, yeah, well they had their breakout season in twenty twenty.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 6: Four they got A Heisman trophy, there his Son Shador
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 6: razzlo and dazzled all. Season it was a nice year for,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 6: Them but to follow that up last year in twenty
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 6: twenty five a total. Flop they won three and, nine
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 6: one in eight in the conference, there it was really
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 6: tough to, watch and you, know it looked like some
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 6: poor offensive. Coaching but what they did is they hired
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 6: a proven offensive coordinator to maybe fix that. Side they
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 6: Bringing Brendan. Marion he calls it his go go. Offense
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 6: it's a little bit of everything if you look at.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 6: It it's got some high school, stuff some college, stuff
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 6: some pro stuff. Tempo SO i like what they did
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 6: with the higher, NOW i just don't think they have
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 6: the talent and the horses here to do. It lines
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 6: of scrimmage are huge. Questions they've been pushed around in
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 6: the trenches for, years even during that good twenty twenty,
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 6: Fourteen SO i don't think they addressed those. Concerns if
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 6: you want a silver lining For. Colorado what's different this
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 6: time around is there's no transfer portal after, springball and
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 6: some programs were fine with. It BUT i remember With,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 6: COLORADO i would write the preview In march And april
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 6: my first, Draft i'd have to throw the entire page
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 6: out because like forty players would leave In may and
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 6: it'd be a whole new roster there May June. July so,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 6: like at least this time, around they know who's in the.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 6: Door there's no more shuffling.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: Around maybe that.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 6: Helps with some, install some scheme, install BUT i think
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of. Question, Marshall, Colorado i've got on
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 6: towards the bottom of the league.
• 2:14:55
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  Speaker 2: Utes one of the really interesting things about this roster
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: and this team you've. Got you got two great, quarterbacks,
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: Obviously Devin Dan pierre the projected. Starter the returning, Starter
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: Bird fickland was a revelation last, year and he scored
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: ten touchdowns for this team and had some really really great,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: moments sometimes filling in For devon other times as specialty
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: packages and things like. That i'm not suggesting that any
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: team in college football in twenty twenty six is going
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: to do like a two quarterback, system but if anyone,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: is or if anyone has reason To utah is.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: Going to look at. It what do you think happens
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: with these?
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 6: Quarterbacks, yeah absolutely, WELL i think first With Devin Dan
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 6: pierre's probably the most elusive quarterback within the. Pocket it's
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 6: impossible to get a finger on this, guy the way
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 6: he can, scramble evade the, pressures extend the, plays and
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 6: then when he does tucket and, run he's got lightning
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 6: speed and he can score from anywhere on the. Field
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 6: SO i thought that he himself is one of the
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 6: best quarterbacks in the. Conference and then at times last
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 6: year we Saw fickland come in that was even more
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 6: lightning in a. BOTTLE i mean ten rushing touchdowns like
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 6: you hit on a high eight yards per, carry almost
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 6: a first, down and every time he runs the balls.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 6: Unbelievable and looking at some spring, quotes some summer quotes
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 6: from those guys and the quarterback coaches over, there sounds
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 6: like these guys don't mind. Sharing it seems like they
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 6: both want to play and they're okay with. It SO
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 6: i think you're gonna see some design packages again For.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 6: Fickland maybe another year at the college, level maybe you'll
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 6: get some more passing in. There for. Him you, know
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 6: maybe it'll work like a Famous Tim tebow And leak
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 6: combination back In. Florida but both these guys are elusive.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 6: RUNNERS i can't wait to watch them, play and knowing
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 6: that you've got two of, them maybe you get a
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 6: little bit, more a little bit more daring with some
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 6: of the run packages with. Them SO i really like.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 6: That that's a huge asset for the.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: Team the wide receiver room has been.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: Overhauled you get guys move, On you had a tight
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: end get, drafted and all these kinds of, things and you,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 2: know still the optimism is.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 6: There the.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: Quotes coming out of the coaching staff is, Like, hey
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: this might be the best group of pass catchers we've.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: Had And Morgan scalley has been here for, decades so
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: he's not comparing to a small sample Size when he
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: says things like. That it might be coach.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: Speak but you've seen some of the production At San
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: Jose state From Kyrie scholz And Brandon pagan At Utah,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: state and now they're coming into This utah offense under
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: a new coordinator And kevin. Mcgiven what do you expect
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: from the passing game At?
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: Utah?
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 6: YEAH i think it's a big upgrade from last. Year
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 6: and you, know at other spots you might hear some coach,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 6: speak you might hear some cheerleading almost where every year
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 6: is their best year, ever, Right but these quotes are
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 6: rare to come out Of, utah and it reminds me
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 6: of last. YEAR a rare quote like that Was Kyle
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 6: whittingham explaining that his offensive line last year was looking
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 6: like his best he's ever, had and he's had twenty
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 6: five plus years At. Utah so that, one that quote
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 6: really stuck with, me and it was. TRUE i, mean
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 6: they dominated in the lines of scrimmage last. Year two
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 6: first round picks off the. Line so quotes like that
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 6: they hold a lot of weight when they come out
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 6: of A utah. Staff so so For scali to say,
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 6: THAT i believe. HIM i believe what he's talking about.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 6: Here and when you look at, it you got a
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 6: pair of thousand yard potential receivers coming from The Mountain.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 6: West both guys were all conference out there in The Mountain.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 6: West and of all the positions in, football it seems
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 6: like receivers able to translate right away to when you
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 6: step up from the NON aq to the Power for
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 6: SO i think both these guys are. Legit it's a
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 6: nice one to two punch to build. Around you've got
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 6: some four star kids on the roster coming.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 10: BACK i like.
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 6: IT i Think i'm going to take him at face
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 6: value with that.
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: Quote, okay as we're talking about kind of handicapping The big,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: twelve and you AND i seem to be in, agreement
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: there is there an obvious fourth or fifth or dark
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: horse right behind at three at the, top where you're,
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: like all, right watch out FOR, tcu watch out For,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: arizona watch out for.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 6: Whoever it's interesting because every YEAR i do the, magazine
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 6: there's always a couple conferences or divisional spots where it's
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 6: like a log jam of teams and it's really. HARD
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 6: i go all the way up to the. Deadline this
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 6: year in twenty twenty, six it was exactly the. Spot
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 6: the middle tier of The big twelve is so, condensed
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 6: so tight when you look AT, Tcu, Houston Kansas, state
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 6: The arizona, TEAMS ucf And, baylor Even Oklahoma state all fully,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 6: revamped so wide open. Pack, ultimately WHAT i went with.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 3: WAS tcu at.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 6: Fourth WHAT i really like from, them you, know it
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 6: was a quiet, offseason you don't you hear about transfer
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 6: as A Texas tech and coaching changes. Elsewhere but WITH
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 6: tcu it was quiet because they recruit really well on
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 6: the high school level and then they retain and develop in.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 6: House so aside From Josh, uver their, quarterback they didn't
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 6: lose a single other starter for the, portal which is
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 6: really rare in this. Era and when you look at
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 6: their high school Ranks kings high school recruiting, recognition say
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 6: number one three straight years within the, league twenty, three
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: twenty four to twenty. Five those guys are now, seniors junior,
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 6: sophomores the number one class in the conference every. Year
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 6: SO i like the star, power the. Talent it's you,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 6: know very, quietly no one's talking ABOUT, tcu BUT i
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 6: like them at Fourth THERE a lot does come down
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 6: to their transfer quarterback From, harvard but he's on SOME
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 6: nfl draft. Watchless SO i like this team to fly
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 6: under the radar as a dark.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: Horse is The big twelve a one bid league in
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: the upcoming college Football?
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 6: PLAYOFF i think it, Is but really your best bet
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 6: to get too in there is to pull an upset
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 6: there On december second in the conference title, game get
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 6: the auto bid for the, underdog and maybe have a
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 6: twelve and One Texas tech strong enough resume to get
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 6: in at. Large it reminds me of In March madness
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 6: when you have those conference tournaments where you have a
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 6: bid steeler where a team goes, in gets the automatic,
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 6: bid and the loser is still good enough to make the.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 6: BRACKET i think that's your best bet because elsewhere you
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 6: know that. SCENARIO i just see a lot of the
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 6: above average teams all beating each other up during the regular,
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 6: season like a lot of nine and three action ten and,
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 6: twos which unfortunately we've seen ten and two in The
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 6: big twelve is no, guarantee probably don't get in the.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 6: Playoffs so it's almost like you gotta have a pair
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 6: of undefeated teams playing In december for the conference title,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 6: game or you're gonna need a major upset in that.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 6: Game So i'm gonna call for one that there's too,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 6: many that's too many what ifs for. Me i'm just
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 6: gonna Say Texas tech is the playoff team from the
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 6: conference right now as we talk here In.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: July you've done a lot of work on this magazine
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: and talking to coaches and seeing what the rosters look.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: Like how many national championship contenders are there truly in
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: Six.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 6: Wow it's a good question, because as we've, seen once
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 6: you get into the bracket In, january you can see
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 6: who gets hot and it makes these surprise runs LIKE
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 6: i don't think anybody Had miami Or ole miss making
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 6: such deep runs when the bracket came out and they
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 6: go out and do. It so that's a really tough.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 6: QUESTION i, MEAN i Have orgon as my pick this
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 6: year to win it. ALL i think it's the year
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 6: of The. Duck i've been calling for this to happen
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 6: now With, oregon But i'll draw the line around seven.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 6: Teams i'll call it seven as we sit. HERE i
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 6: Like oregon And Ohio state from The big. TEN i
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 6: really Like. Miami they upgraded a quarterback With Darian. Mensa
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 6: it's going to be a vertical passing attack even more
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 6: than last. Year Notre dame's your pick if you like returning,
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 6: starters that's your metric you look at the, most because
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 6: they bring back the whole team from last year aside
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 6: from the running. Backs and then you got your sec.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 6: Field who's going to emerge out of these. Teams you Got, Georgia, Oklahoma,
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 6: Texas Old miss was in the playoff last. YEAR lsu
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 6: is the storyline of the whole offseason With Lane, kiffin
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 6: and we didn't even touch On. Alabama so, Yeah i'll
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 6: draw the liner on seven. Teams but Really i'm looking
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 6: at that top. FOUR i really Like, Oregon Ohio, State,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 6: miami And Notre Dame.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: Okay so AGAIN i don't disagree, seven, eight maybe ten
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: on the outside. Teams and yet we're still talking about
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: expanding college football.
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: Playoff but we. Don't none of us truly believe there
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: are twenty four or thirty two or sixteen teams that
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: are really national championship. Contenders do we eventually get a bigger?
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: FIELD i hope.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: Not.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 6: Sean to be honest with, You i'm REALLY i love
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 6: the regular, season AND i like to say this for
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 6: those that want the expanded twenty four team, playoff we
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 6: already haven't. It and it's Called. November all these key
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 6: matchups In, november that's where everyone the cream rises to the.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 6: Top you have these games where the teams are eight
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 6: AND o versus EIGHT o and you're knocking each other.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 6: Out you keep going and going and. Going by the
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 6: time you get To, december it's pretty obvious who the
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 6: title contenders. Are and we've already proved it on the
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 6: field for the most. Part SO i know there were
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 6: some tough, cases LIKE byu was left out last, year
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 6: but they did lose To Texas tech twice by twenty plus.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 6: Points they had their two chances and got blown out
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 6: twice by a playoff, Team so you, KNOW i like
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 6: how it is with. TWELVE i would like it more with.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 6: EIGHT i would even love to go back to four
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 6: in some, cases maybe change how the teams are SELECT
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 6: i don't really trust the committee being involved with all
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 6: these athletic departments AND tv. Deals so if there was
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 6: some kind of like A bcs formula with an eight team,
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 6: BRACKET i think you could get to a perfect. Scenario but,
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 6: ANYWAYS i don't work FOR tv, companies SO i don't
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 6: have the revenue of mind like they. Do it's a
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 6: whole different. Ballgame i'd rather stay where we're. AT i
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 6: don't want to double. IT i think that'd be.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: CRAZY i know you are jam packed with these interview.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: Requests it's that time of year for. YOU i want
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: to respect your, time So i'm going to let you. Go,
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: brett thank you so much for doing all the work
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: on this. Magazine thanks for joining. Us we'll check in
• 2:24:34
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question That i've been asking
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: the listeners, today AND i do this every. Year we
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: go through and we go kind of position by, position
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: production by, production number by.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: NUMBER. Yep we were talking yesterday about touches and how
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: you distribute them in the passing, game because we keep being, Told,
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 1: hey this is a deeper, room this is a better,
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: room this is a more talented. Room there's only one
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: football to go.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: Around who is going to be the leading receiver For
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: utah football this. Year he's going to be the best pass.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 2: CATCHER i shouldn't say. Receiver could be a tight. End
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: it's been a tight end in.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: The, past.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 10: Right it's an interesting question because you have a few
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 10: very different situations where you have one transfer in who
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 10: is familiar with the offensive coordinator and of course played
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 10: For kevin Mcgivenett Utah. State you have one transfer in
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 10: who is completely new to this, system completely new to this,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 10: quarterback completely new To utah in, general And Kyrie, shols
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 10: and then you have the. Returners i'm going to put
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 10: Probably Larry simmons up there at the one who, was you,
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 10: know not necessarily a standout number one last, year but
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 10: he showed flashes, absolutely really good, hands really good catch,
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 10: radius his his awareness at the sideline like, THAT a
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 10: lot of things that show what he could be in
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 10: One Larry.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: Simmons.
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 10: Uh and then, yeah you, HAVE i, guess some some
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 10: wild cards you Have Noah benny at tight. End Hunter
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 10: andrews is going to be more of a well we'll
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 10: see in this new. Offense we'll see What Hunter andrews is.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: Sent me To.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: Alga if If sebby ends up being your lead receiver
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: as much as we would love, it you're in.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 10: Trouble i'm Gonna i'm gonna say Probably Braden, pagan his
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 10: familiarity With kevin, mcgiven his just a style play, right
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 10: he's gonna be THE i, guess kind of a not an,
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 10: outlet but a safety valve at a lot of. TIMES
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 10: i think he's probably gonna be your leading. Receiver Creed
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 10: widemore may have almost as many, catches but probably not
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 10: as many yards As. Pagan it's a good question, though
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 10: because it's it's a it's a room that while we're
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 10: hearing a lot of optimism for this room from up
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 10: on the hill we saw good things in, spring we
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 10: haven't seen it as a unit at. All really with
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 10: all of these. Pieces so it's gonna be. Interesting and
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 10: of course a new guy called the. Place it's it's foreign.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: Territory, honestly For utah football to have that many options
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: that you think are actually going to be a big, deal,
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean even when you were feeling confident because
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: you Had Dalkin kaid and Brand keithy And Brittain, covey
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: you weren't, like we also have fill in four more
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: wide receivers that you're excited.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: About, Right sometimes in the spring we do. Well occasionally
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: in the spring can be Like Raylan singleton is going
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: to have the best year Of utah football, history and
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: then you know it never who's This Josh gordon? Guy
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: it never really it never really worked.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: Out and the returning production is, limited like you said
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: With simmons with more to a lesser, extent the production
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: that you can call semi returning because it comes from
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: other schools is actually like it's a really, healthy really healthy, numbers.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: Right you got like seventeen eighteen hundred yards Between shoals
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: And pagan on that and if you Translate pagan's numbers
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: From Utah state directly To big twelve play that's a
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: top ten wide receiver in The big ten in The
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: big twelve last, year WHICH i don't know if that's
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: necessary or if you can do it by committee where
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: you can have him at five hundred and sixty yards
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: And shoals at four hundred and eighty yards and win
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: A moore at four hundred and twenty. Yards it's better
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: if all those totals are. Higher AND i think that
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: this is going to be a year Where utah football
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: fans kind of have to get used To kevin mcgivens
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: tendencies when when he's looking for a third down, conversion
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: he's passing the football more.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 1: Than he's running the, football or at least as much
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: as he's running the. Football at least he has the previous.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: Stops maybe not with the personnel this, year but it's
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: all kind of up for grabs when you get into real.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 10: Gameplay we do this thing almost every off season At
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 10: utah where you're looking for that number one, guy that
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 10: number one option that you, know you put him on
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 10: the scouting report at the top of the, List you
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 10: put him out wide and he beats everyone one on.
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 10: One you got a double, team and we look for
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 10: that every, Offseason, yes and then we get to the
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 10: year and when what was the last thousand yard?
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: Receiver it Was Dress Dress Anderson Darren carrington came.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 10: Close AND i think we see that again this, year
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 10: not necessarily because there's no one, there but because it
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 10: is by, committee because you have a bunch of weapons
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 10: that you could you could mix in, there and you
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 10: have a guy And kevin mcgiven who really likes to
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 10: give his quarterback a lot of options in the throw.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 1: Game.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 10: Right so you even go back To Utah state and
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 10: you Mentioned Bradon pagan nine hundred, Yards Brady boyd seven
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 10: hundred and forty three, Yards jacobs had three hundred, Yards
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 10: garcia had three hundred. Yards you had, five, six seven
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 10: players For Utah state last year that were catching passes pretty.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 10: Routinely you had four or five guys that had three
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 10: or more touchdowns throughout the. Year he's a coordinator who
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 10: is going to Give Devin Dan pierre won, two, three
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 10: four different options on every pass that a lot of
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 10: times doesn't equate to having a thousand yard. Receiver having
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 10: a number one. Guy, now one of them is going
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 10: to lead the team and be a number, one but
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 10: he's not going to be the what was it In
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 10: madden where you had the or the college football you
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 10: had the blue star underneath them because they're like a
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 10: break out or a standout. PLAYER i don't know that
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 10: you have that guy on this, roster BUT i don't
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 10: know that you necessarily need that guy on your. Roster
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 10: when you have A Devin, dampier you have A Bird,
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 10: ficklin you have a solid wide, receiver corps Throwing Hunter,
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 10: andrews however the hell you want to use, Him daniel
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 10: bray Mona carvalho if you want to use him on
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 10: the offensive.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: Side there there's a faction of.
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 10: Weapons Nate johnson didn't even mention.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: You can throw in.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 10: There and whether they're running the, ball whether you're getting
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 10: getting it to a mountain in the open field on a,
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 10: screen whether you know they are running routes short. ROUTES
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 10: i think a lot of the utes run game this
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 10: year may be short pass.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: Game. Right you may not need terror To Terrell.
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 10: Owens you don't need you, know, like there's No Randy
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 10: moss on this, team AND i don't know that there will.
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: Be and, honestly you know THERE'S i feel opposite about
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: the wide receiving, corps AS i do about the running.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: BACKS i like bell cow. BACK i like a guy
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: where the defense, knows the offense, knows the fan at
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: the top, knows the guy on the sideline, knows everyone
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 1: knows on third and three who were handing the ball.
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: TO i like, that, yep because it's just like me versus.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: You let's go and.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 10: Great to have someone behind him who's, capable who can
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 10: come and spell one hundred.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: Percent but, Yeah i'm houner with you on, that but
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: you need and running. BACK i am a firm. Believer
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: it's a position of, rhythm.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: Yep and like you're second ten carries should be better
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: than your first ten carries in a. GAME i feel
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: the opposite about wide, receivers especially in This utah football
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: system and The utah football, context because we've had some great.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: Ones we've had some awesome ones by. Themselves in most
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: cases just that one.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: GUY i mean in the seasons where you had outliers
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: where it wasn't just one our championship, years it's, four
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: it's oh, eight it's the conference championship years where you've
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: got a great tight end and you've got a receiver
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: that can help out imagine how much better it is,
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: though If Dalton kincaid also Has it's Dal Kin kid
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: And Brittain covey And Steve smith and you, Know David.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: Reid right now we're talking that's what it was like
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: to play Against Ohio state and The Rose.
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  Speaker 10: Bowl, well and now we're talking about how do you
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  Speaker 10: divvy that up in the nil?
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  Speaker 1: Space you know?
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  Speaker 2: What, yeah and let, them let them be sad about
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  Speaker 2: that and worry about. That and that's why you pay
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  Speaker 2: GM's big money now in college football like you did
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  Speaker 2: in pro. Football but for an offensive, coordinator it's nice
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  Speaker 2: to have a guy like we got a, Gronk we're
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  Speaker 2: going to throw the ball to him on third. Down
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  Speaker 2: but you can't only have that in this in This big, twelve,
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  Speaker 2: right not With BYU's defense this, year not With Texas
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  Speaker 2: tech defense this, year not With. Arizona SO i think
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  Speaker 2: that the by committee thing that we all kind of
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  Speaker 2: at least are halfway settling on might.
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  Speaker 1: Be better for the. Youth.
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  Speaker 10: Well and whether you think Way Sham parker is a
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  Speaker 10: al cow back or, not whether you think you know
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  Speaker 10: he's gonna split carries With Daniel bray or, whoever in
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  Speaker 10: that in that running back. Room you're also dealing with
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  Speaker 10: five new guys up, front, right and regardless of what
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  Speaker 10: they look like long, term you, know with the season
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  Speaker 10: as a, whole once we get to look back on,
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  Speaker 10: IT i think they're going to be a really good.
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  Speaker 10: Unit when we get. Started there may be uh some growing.
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  Speaker 10: Pains there may be some you, know those guys figuring
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  Speaker 10: out how to play as a five man unit on game, speed,
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  Speaker 10: right and that may lead To Devin dampier needing to
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  Speaker 10: workshop a little bit. More that may need lead to
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  Speaker 10: the utes needing to throw the football a little bit
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  Speaker 10: more than maybe they they would want. To so there's
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  Speaker 10: also that aspect of it where there may be a
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  Speaker 10: little bit more pressure on the wide receivers to be,
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  Speaker 10: productive so that that defense scoots back a little, bit
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  Speaker 10: Gives Devin dampier a little more space to work, with
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  Speaker 10: gives the offensive line a little bit more space to
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  Speaker 10: figure their stuff. Out that's a reality of this team as,
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  Speaker 10: well where you, know this is an offensive line who
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  Speaker 10: isn't just going to mow over every opponent all year,
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  Speaker 10: long like like the one we saw last. Year that's
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  Speaker 10: that's gonna put a little bit more pressure on the
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  Speaker 10: wide receiver room to be. Productive whether that's one guy
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  Speaker 10: or six of, them they're they're going to need to
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  Speaker 10: put up some numbers and Help devin out it in that.
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  Speaker 2: Way stay tuned for The drive Featuring Porter larson filling
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  Speaker 2: in For spence Check. Its thank you all for listening
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  Speaker 2: To The sean O'Connell show. Today time, out wait, wait
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  Speaker 2: turn his mike back on and he's a?
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  Speaker 10: Timeout DID i DID i hear you mention you're getting
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  Speaker 10: A Morgan scalley face tattoo hold on the.
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  Speaker 1: Show if he wins a national. Championship, okay then we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna Get Morgan scalley's face, tattooed not a face.
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  Speaker 10: TATTOO i don't know IF i heard. THAT i THINK
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  Speaker 10: i heard A Morgan scalley face. Tattoo, NO i will
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  Speaker 10: tattoo Of Morgan scalley's.
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  Speaker 1: FACE i.
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  Speaker 2: HEAR i can't do. IT i can't do. It i'm
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  Speaker 2: not getting any better. Looking that certainly wouldn't.
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  Speaker 6: Help.
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  Speaker 1: WELL i just thought i'd bring that. UP i did hear.
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  Speaker 2: That he's got to win a natty AND i was
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  Speaker 2: inspired By cucarella From.
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  Speaker 1: Spain he got his coaches face. Tattooed on.
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  Speaker 10: Him, yeah well all, Right i'm, Uh i'm not gonna
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  Speaker 10: go that far with. You i'd like to see the
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  Speaker 10: team on the field, first But i'll get some sort
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  Speaker 10: of tattoo if the youth take it all the way this. Year,
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  Speaker 10: okay a national championship would be maybe maybe A drummond,
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  Speaker 10: feather not on my.
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  Speaker 2: Face, everyone we're all getting, tattoos Even. James stay tuned
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  Speaker 2: for the. Drive that's it for The sean O'Connell. Show
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  Speaker 2: will do it again tomorrow ON espn seven hundred and ninety.
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