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DNC Recap, RFK, Debate Anticipation, and More · Project 2028

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  2028 episode.
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  Hello and welcome to this episode of Project 2028.
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  Today we are going to be covering an assortment of topics consisting of a DNC recap.
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  We are going to be talking about Kennedy dropping out of the race and finally we will be talking
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  about the debate that is happening on Tuesday September 10th.
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  Before we jump into the episode, we are sorry for the couple week break in our uploading.
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  that.
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  Alright, so it's been a few weeks since the DNC but we are just going to kind of run a
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  refresher so that we can reference it this episode and do some other stuff.
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  Firstly with the speeches.
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  So there were a lot of them.
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  They tended to be higher profile people, more celebrity people than the RNC.
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  The RNC tended to have a lot of older politicians that were kind of more established.
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  There were a lot, a lot of celebrities here but it was not just star studded.
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  There were a lot of political speeches.
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  There was a rumor that Beyonce was going to be there as the guest speaker.
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  She was not.
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  That was an online rumor.
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  It was Leon Panetta who I thought had a very good speech.
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  I think online reception was not as key because a lot of people wanted Beyonce to speak but
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  I liked it.
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  Polling wise, usually you're going to see something called a convention bump.
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  That's how the candidate will usually get a few more points in support to widen the
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  margin for a few weeks after the event.
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  This has not happened with Kamala because of her quite unique circumstances.
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  She had basically a convention bump when the real convention was held which was when basically
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  Biden endorsed her and the whole party kind of coalesced.
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  So no real polling bump for her.
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  Even so, they usually come back down.
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  They're usually around one to two points.
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  Nothing too good.
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  And then also the DNC, something that they really tried to push was trying to get Reagan
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  style Republicans to vote for them.
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  Older, non-Make America Great Again Republicans.
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  People like Adam Kissinger who are more just regular establishment Republicans who are
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  urging their voters or their constituents to help the Democratic cause and to prevent
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  a Trump election.
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  Kind of like a Liz Cheney kind of thing.
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  They've all pledged their support to her.
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  George Bush is one of the few older Republicans that has not.
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  George Bush's vice president.
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  Dick Cheney has now endorsed Kamala along with many of the older type of Republicans.
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  So that's kind of it from my side of the DNC.
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  Polling was not too crazy.
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  There were a lot of good speeches but nothing really stood out.
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  I was going to kind of talk to you about the stump speeches for each of the candidates.
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  So as Ryan was saying, there were a lot of super lengthy speeches that went on.
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  One of those was not Kamala Harris's though.
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  She had a very short stump speech in which she really tried to appeal to the median voter.
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  So what a median voter really is, is a voter who is swinging.
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  So they will vote for whatever party and more whose policies and ideals they agree with
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  more in a candidate.
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  She also just tried to show that she's different from Trump and not only him but she's also
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  different than Biden.
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  She was trying to provide something to be excited for and something to look forward
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  to and honestly be a candidate that people actually wanted to see win for Democrats.
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  She also talked about Gaza during her speech and that's one of the main differences she
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  showed.
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  She said she would quote, always stand up for Israel's rights to defend itself.
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  But at the same time, what has happened in Gaza over the past 10 months is devastating.
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  So many innocent lives lost, desperate hungry people fleeing for safety over and over again.
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  The scale of suffering is heartbreaking.
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  She then said that her and President Biden are trying to end the war so that Israel is
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  secure, the hostages are relieved and the suffering in Gaza ends and the Palestinian
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  people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination.
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  So just to kind of cap this speech out, it seems like a lot of Democrats are very excited
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  that she was the new candidate, especially with her policies and not only that, but a
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  lot of people have grown to really like Tim Walz from his speech he gave and from his
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  family and things like that.
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  So overall, I would say the DNC was pretty successful for the pair and for their campaign.
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  Shortly after the DNC, the independent presidential candidate, John F. Kennedy, decided to drop
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  out of the 2024 race.
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  He decided to suspend his campaign and he also told people that were planning on voting
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  for him to vote for President Trump.
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  Ryan is now going to go more in depth on why he would do this and if the choice for him
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  to drop out will be affecting the amount of people we see voting for Trump and the polls
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  revolving around that.
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  So just to chime in on Kennedy a bit and kind of look at some of the polling and stuff,
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  when he was coming into Biden's resignation in suspension of his campaign, he had roughly
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  10 points in the polls and then the moment Kamala Harris joined the race, he immediately
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  dropped down to around five points.
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  This was due to just a lot of disenfranchised Democratic leaning voters and people that
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  saw his environmental agenda as quite advantageous for their beliefs because he was an environmental
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  lawyer for most of his life.
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  He had five points going into it.
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  He was losing it slowly.
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  Four point seven and then four point three was when he suspended his campaign.
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  So it was going downhill.
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  You have to remember also independent candidates always have higher amounts of support before
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  conventions and then voters tend to start making up their minds, especially in Poland.
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  He dropped out to help Trump officially endorse them.
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  But you remember if you live in any state that's uncontested, which is a good more than
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  50 percent of the states, he will still be on the ballot for you because they're not
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  trying to worry about getting off the ballot in those states.
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  So if you live in California or if you live in Florida, he will still most likely be on
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  the ballot there, but if you live in a swing state, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, places
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  like that, he's going to be hopefully off the ballot.
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  That brings me to my third point, which is that there has been a lot of problems getting
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  off the ballot, especially in Democratic states, because he's expected to get one to three
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  points to Trump because it kind of disenfranchised Trump voters that now just see Trump as the
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  only option and their guy endorsed him.
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  Just to button here, Ryan, why do you think that we are seeing this issue with getting
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  him off the ballot in non contested states?
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  Well, especially in Democratic led states, taking off the ballot may not be the most
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  popular option because, as I said, one to three points are going to go back to Trump
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  for voter wise and the other two might go to Jill, Jill Stein or Cornel West to kind
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  of fringe independent candidates.
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  But it certainly won't help the Harris campaign much just because all the voters that could
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  have switched over have mostly and that's kind of the five percent that she beat.
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  Trump Biden was losing to Trump by around two points and we'll talk about the 44 percent
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  Trump rule later.
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  But Kamala Harris has basically gained five points and Donald Trump has had unchanged
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  polling for years on end now as people are pretty solid in their opinion of him.
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  Additionally, as I talked about earlier, he does want a or there was some talk about health
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  job in the campaign or not the campaign in the administration.
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  If Trump were to win, I, you know, I doubt that I think he would take up much more of
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  an environmental position.
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  So as we've started to hear, it sounds like Kennedy reached out to Kamala first, asking
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  to be a part of her campaign.
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  Why do you think Trump was the second option for him?
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  And why do you think Kamala denied him the position in her cabinet if she were to win?
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  Well, I see it as a product of a few things.
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  First of all, he didn't necessarily go to her campaign offering to suspend his campaign,
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  but they were talking much about policy initiatives that would kind of be jointly pushed if they
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  were ever to suspend this, this suspension had been in the making for a few weeks at
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  the point.
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  So I think he, he sympathized much more with a few of Trump's policy issues and went from
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  there.
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  I don't think even if he had kind of agreed more with Harris's policy initiatives, I don't
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  think Harris would have taken him on just as he's kind of, he has characteristics about
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  him that may not be the best, especially for a campaign that's winning.
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  You don't want to take a lot of risks if you're kind of up ahead in the polls.
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  I mean, and don't get me wrong, she's up ahead in the, she could lose this election on just
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  margin of error easily.
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  But you don't really want to take too big of a risk by kind of adopting somebody who
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  may not hold your beliefs in their first interest, at least that kind of wraps it up for Kennedy.
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  Next we want to talk about the debate.
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  And then we're going to talk about some miscellaneous stuff, kind of housecleaning to finish up
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  the episode.
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  So yeah.
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  So the rules are going to be the same in this debate as they were when Biden was debating
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  Trump, such as the microphones will be muted when the candidate isn't speaking and they
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  will not be allowed to have any pre-written papers or notes from their team or their.
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  Kamala and her team are not super happy about the muted microphone situation.
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  They feel as though it gives her a disadvantage.
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  There are a couple of reasons for this, but the main one seems to be they want Trump to
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  have an outbreak and to kind of outlash onto her and what she's saying.
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  And their main goal with having unmuted microphones is for him to inevitably look bad because
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  of things he says.
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  If you look back on the debates that happened in 2016 with Trump and Hillary Clinton, you
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  will see that there were a lot of outbursts and a lot of times where Hillary was able
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  to kind of pull the sexist card on him and they're really hoping that Kamala would have
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  been able to do that in this debate.
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  However, with muted microphones, there will be a lower chance that they will have this
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  type of reaction from him.
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  Not only this, but her campaign is saying that she might get thrown by the muted microphones,
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  but they have said that they're preparing her and there's a couple of specific lines
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  that the Democratic strategist has put out there that there may be a high chance of her
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  using such as, quote, for those who can't hear it, Donald Trump is trying to yell over
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  me.
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  How many of you have been in a meeting where you get talked over?
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  End quote.
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  So even without the muted microphones, they are just trying to kind of give Trump this
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  negative outlook and make him seem like he is trying to just constantly talk over her,
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  which may be the fact, but we won't be able to hear it.
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  So she will have to take time out of her given addressing time to talk about the fact that
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  he's trying to yell over her, which is an interesting strategy for sure.
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  And I'm not sure how voters will necessarily react to this.
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  And me personally, I would much rather hear her ignore it and kind of continue to talk
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  through the question rather than addressing him yelling at her or trying to talk over
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  her and distract her from making a point.
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  All right.
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  So to talk about some more debate strategy.
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  So just to kind of add some debate context, there has been a lot of preparation.
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  Kamala Harris has had a really star studded campaign advisor, not Ron Klain like Biden.
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  He's been since dismissed, but her name is Karen Dunn.
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  She has been a democratic strategist and lawyer in Washington for a while now, and hopefully
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  she'll do a good job.
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  Both campaigns really, really wanted to find Kamala Harris.
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  Trump wants to set her up as the dangerous left wing liberal and does not.
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  Whereas the Harris campaign really is trying to set her up as the median candidate, somebody
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  that everybody can vote for because that's what's going to win them the election.
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  And what's going to win Trump the election is people fearing voting for Harris.
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  With all that being said, there was a coin flip on Tuesday, virtually to determine placement
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  in order of closing statements.
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  Trump won the coin toss and chose to select the order of the statements.
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  Former President Trump will offer the last closing statement and Harris will have the
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  podium to the right of the screen or stage left.
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  So that's it for really the debate.
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  There is a lot on the line polling wise and election wise.
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  If it is bad for Harris, it will be a lot worse than if it's bad for Trump because Trump's
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  polling numbers, as we said earlier, tend to stay around 44% no matter what happens.
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  And that's kind of how it's going to go.
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  But you have to always remember that, and I think a lot of people are kind of having
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  a bit of amnesia, Kamala Harris' debate performances in 2020 were subpar at best.
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  And it was kind of what kicked her out of her campaign.
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  So I think she can do a lot better.
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  And I think she has had four years to kind of prepare for this moment.
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  But if she pulls another, you know, 2020 primaries, it could entail some bad election results
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  in the future months.
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  Now we're going to get into the miscellaneous section of today's short podcast.
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  So in this section, we are mainly going to be talking about...
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  So we're only talking about two things in this category today.
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  This being Trump wanting to change the 25th Amendment in hopes to be able to impeach Kamala
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  Harris.
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  And the second thing being Trump's sentencing being pushed back.
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  So as Elle just said, just some general housekeeping stuff.
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  First of all, Trump has made a wide ranging remark that the 25th Amendment should be changed
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  to allow for Kamala Harris to be impeached for her attempted, and I'm quoting, cover-up
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  of Joe Biden's incapacity to hold office.
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  So that will kind of just get him on the news cycle.
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  It's not going to actually do anything voter-wise or law-wise.
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  That's never going to work.
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  But it is newsworthy because he's a presidential candidate.
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  Also on the Trump idea, his sentencing in New York case is pushed back.
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  If I'm the Harris campaigner right now, this isn't actually the best because Trump tends
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  to benefit very well from these high profile cases of which he's involved in usually a
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  few points.
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  So if I was the Harris campaign, I would want that happening now, not right before the election,
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  to give him a quick boost that we couldn't necessarily counter if I was their campaign.
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  But that will kind of wrap it up for this episode.
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  Elle might have some closing stuff to say, but thank you for tuning in.
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  See you in the next one.
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  The episode, Elle, do you have any closing statements?
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  Yeah.
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  So just to talk about our future episodes.
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  So as of right now, we hope to get an episode out Tuesday night or Wednesday as our opinions
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  from the debate are forming.
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  And also to just kind of give a super quick, brief recap, kind of like we did with the
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  first debate between Biden and Trump.
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  Also we are going to be recording an episode next weekend.
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  Lutrana is at finals for her horse showing, riding, which is super exciting for her.
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  So wish her the best of luck.
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  But Ryan and I should be able to record and put another episode out then going more in
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  depth about the debate.
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  Some things that we've seen a little less than a week after the debate and a couple
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  things like that.
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  Next time Lutrana joins us, we will also be talking about gun violence, which is a super
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  concerning topic for us.
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  And especially with the school shootings that we've seen happen in the past couple of days,
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  it is very devastating and we cannot wait to share our opinions and talk about the importance
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  and the time and matter of this issue.
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  That was all from us today.
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  Have a wonderful day and thank you for tuning in to Project 2028.