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Football Podcast #1 · The Treehouse Show Podcast

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Welcome to the Treehouse Football Podcast, Episode number one, season number one.
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I'm not gonna focus too much on the season number one because I don't know
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if we'll you know, go into a second season or not. But Treehouse
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Football Podcast number one, Yeah, welcome, Welcome to it. I'm Dan
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ol Malley along with Trey Trenholme. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna rephrase
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that, I'm Dan o'm malley along with UT alum Trey Trenholme, and not
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Texas State but Southwest Texas State alum Raj Sharmah. There you go. I
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didn't throw mine in because I went to UT Arlington for all of a year
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and a half and we didn't even have a football team, So why even
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mention it? Unless we start doing a Treehouse Wheelchair Basketball podcast. My college
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has no bearing in this show. The comment is it? The comments?
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Is that what you guys know? Well, it's the it's the It's Uta
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Mavericks, Mavericks. Okay, the comments. The wheelchair team is unless they've
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changed. It is the moving maths, the moving maths. All right,
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Okay, don't they they have a pretty good basketball team, now, don't
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they? They do? They do? I I'll admit I haven't followed it
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a whole lot. I'm not sure who was more surprised about the new basketball
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arena, the basketball team or anyone that ever went to UTA and we had
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a nice little upset over Baylor. Southwest Texas or Texas State defeated Baylor in
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their home open. Well, that's exciting. Maybe we can get into that
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when we touch on the college side of football growing up in the all New
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Treehouse Football podcast The Treehouse, We've decided to branch out because we're not busy
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enough, or we apparently don't say enough. As it is twice a week
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during the Treehouse Podcast, we feel the need to also flood your ears with
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our sports thoughts. So here we are. I like, go when you
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said we're not busy enough, and I just thought Trey's head turned like eiel
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Mally, I haven't slept in three days. I feel like elvit's on a
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bender. Well, that means you probably appear to have more energy than the
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Giants offensive line did this last week for you. Speaking of surprises, was
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anybody's surprised by the Cowboys victory Sunday Night in the season opener over the Giants?
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Forty to nothing. How could you not be? I mean, I
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don't know about surprised, more of like the just the moments that we're just
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never ending in the game, Like the moments of like oh okay, I
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didn't see that coming. Oh I didn't know that was gonna happen. Oh,
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just that over and over again. By the end of it, I
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was tired. Well, I was tired after the first I'd say six or
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seven minutes. However long it took for the Giants to march down the field
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and then the Cowboys to block that kick, return it for a touchdown,
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and when Trey and I were texting each other, missed the extra point to
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take a six nothing lead, to which Trey responded, that was the most
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Cowboys sequence ever. And he was not wrong. Right then and there,
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I thought, oh no, they've picked up right where they left off last
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season, which is do something good and then just look like a total idiot
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right after it. Yeah, but I mean, to their credit, you
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have the kid Aubrey I think is his last name, that there is a
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place kicker now has in God love him for it. Had never kicked in
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the NFL. I don't think he kicked in college. He was uh,
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he was a soccer player, and he was drafted in the first round of
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Major League Soccer and then I think he went to the USFL for Birmingham because
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he was in the USFL and May missed only one field goal attempt that previous
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season, and to his credit, he missed that one. Because I'm sure
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this is what the conversation was on the sideline when that happened, because when
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I heard like his background, you know, the USFL is vastly different than
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the NFL. Right, So hey, hang on, Trey, let's look
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that. Yeah, that that there is a that is a hot take there.
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That is a John Madden take. That That is the kind of professional
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take you will get here on the Treehouse Football podcast. Right. The NFL
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is harder than the USFL. Let's just send the show right there. They're
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both, they're both, they're both professional football. I'm just saying those are
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very John Madden as like two of these, out of these two teams,
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one's gotta win. Like, that's a that's the Madden take. Yeah.
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The only thing you're missing is is the marker on the screen and a Turkey
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leg and athletes would endorsement, right, So there's four things. Yeah,
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and then you know, he misses the one kick and that's his first time
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to kick in the NFL. And I'm sure he went to the sideline.
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They're like, you know, he can still fire you right like like probably
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again, and then we will leave you here. There is there is precedent
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in in Cowboys history where you f up bad enough, they will not let
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you on the plane to go back to Texas. Yeah, it's one of
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those like you're gonna be a giant or homeless, so don't don't miss another
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kick. And then I was reading the stats of the game, and it
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was, you know, the blocked the block field goal for the touchdown return,
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and the shutout and then this and and all of those things, and
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they combined it to no other NFL team has ever suffered all of those things
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in one season, let alone in one game. So who gets who gets
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more credit for them the Cowboys for having forced it upon the Giants or the
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Giants just kind of looking like a Benny Hill skit. I want to see
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that game set to that music. I like that because you could have just
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had you could have had the old, the old Benny Hill music playing just
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on repeat of watching watching Danny Dimes run around all over the field away from
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the Cowboys defense. I just I flashed back to last week with one of
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the ESPN guys whose theory was to run at to do everything at Michael Parsons,
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Like that's what he wants. That was his suggestion to every team is
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you want to go directly to him. And I'm like, after watching that
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game, I'm like, I'd like for you to just say that again,
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because that didn't seem to work if that was your philosophy on how to defeat
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the Cowboys or or beat their defense is to run at, run the ball
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at Michael Parsons. The other surprise in this game was that Trey, I
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think you and I in our little text exchange during the game, we touched
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on this as well. So the Cowboys throw up forty points, but if
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we're being honest, the offense was kind of me, Oh yeah, yeah,
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I don't I don't think that was disputed in any way. I don't
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know. It's just typically what you would do is if for some reason you
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were just going through the box scores or you didn't have to watch the game,
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and you see the Cowboys beat the Giants on the road forty to nothing
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on Sunday night, You're like, oh my god, their offense clearly just
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lit it up, when in reality, no, they just they just kind
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of went about the day just like oh, we're here too, just kind
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of hanging out. The offensive stats for the game were very pedestrian for Dallas.
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Like when you look at the score, do you go forty nothing?
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You think you know, they would have you know, Dak would have thrown
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for four hundred yards and they had all these standout performances and you just didn't.
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I mean, and that's you know, the Giants that first drive up
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until that last sequence, they were moving the ball at will and you're going,
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all right, this is gonna be you know, one of those things
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that's gonna be back and forth, back and forth, and you know,
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come down to a field goal, and then it's like and then you go,
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well, were the cowboys? Like? You know, sometimes they'll run
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set plays, like the first ten plays of offense are already scheduled. I
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don't know if they do that on the defense where they do, and that
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then all of a sudden they made adjustments and they just overwhelmed the Giants.
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I don't because it's like, what's that field goal got blocked? It's like
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the entire will just got sucked out of that team and then it was then
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it was the Benny Hill Show of just and then poor. I've never thought
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I would feel sorry for Daniel Jones, but by the end of that game,
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I'm Dan and I are texting, I'm going like they got to take
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him out, like yeah, it's like they've got one hundred and sixty something
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million and wrapped up in that guy. Yeah, and he to his like
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he just took a beating. He did and he could have come out looking
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way worse. Despite the fact that Trey you're saying you feel bad for Daniel
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Jones and how he's running for his life in that game, I feel bad
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for Daniel Jones because to me, I can't look to me, Daniel Jones
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looks like a Beaker on assessment. So I pondered this question and I see,
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now, yeah, I can't either. It's kind of like, uh
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so, in addition into Daniel Jones looking like Beaker from Sesame Street, it
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is Sesame Street, right or is it? Or the Muppet Show? The
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Muppet Show? Yeah, all right. In addition to Daniel Jones looking like
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Beaker from the Muppets. Uh old Giants coach Tom Coughlin. One day watching
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a game, I saw Tom Coughlin and all of a sudden, all I
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could see was he looked exactly like Jeff Dunham's Walter Muppet, sort of like
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how uh, sort of sort of like, how got Daniel Baker Jones?
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You've got Tom, don't call me Walter Coughlin and Sean Blue Steel Peyton.
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Once you see those things, you can't unsee them, so like I remember,
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yeah, I just I was wondering if there's something because I was looking
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at Daniel Jones and then I was like, is there something with the Giants
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helmets? Because it almost gave him stupid face? Like yeah, Eli,
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it's like Giants helmets. I think you really as soon as as soon as
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a human quarterback puts on that Giant's helmet, they just immediately go dirt.
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I just a buddy of mine is from Yonkers, New York, and he's
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a Giants fan forever, and this is when like and we trash talk every
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single time the Cowboys and the Giants play. And I didn't get a response
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back from him for this game. I just I texted. All I said
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is after and again, like you said, after that block field goal,
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the not only did the will go, I think you could feel the energy
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get sucked out of that stadium. I think I think at that point,
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if you have any Giants fans after that game or actually somewhere in the middle
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of the third quarter, was the time too, as they say, check
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on your Giants friends. Yes, and so I just after that, after
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that block field goal, Uh, I go, man, you guys are
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looking and I just stopped there the ellipses ouch. Uh. And then we
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missed that the extra point and I got nothing back, and I was like,
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oh, this is interesting. He normally this would be right, this
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would be the appropriate time for him to go. And you were saying,
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and then obviously he would have been correct. Yeah, And then the rest
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of the game happened, and then he just exactly so, just so,
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just when you thought things couldn't get any worse for the city and state of
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New York and their football teams, Monday night comes around. Yes, and
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the team that the Cowboys play next, the Jets. Their big splash offseason
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move is getting Aaron Rodgers. They they they pulled Brett Farve, you know,
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part two and build the Packers quarterback over to the Jets. And how
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long ended the game was? It was it even five minutes. The most
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running Aaron Rodgers did before he tore what we think is a torn achilles was
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him carrying the flag running out onto the field during the pregame stuff. Yeah,
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that you know, And and I feel I feel bad for him.
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I mean, poor guy. I mean really, here's why, Like he's
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done this whole Ayawaska journey and apparently he used to be a tremendous a hole
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and now he's like gone back to like former players in Green Bay and like
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apologized and you know, he's got his his his spiritual side is there.
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Like he's apologized to his family, like he really Yeah have they Have they
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accepted it? Because I believe so. Yeah, because even even the brother.
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Yeah, so that the whole thing, because he was on the Bachelor.
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When he's on the Bachelor and he was his brother, Jordan Rodgers,
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and he ended up marrying the girl from Dallas. Yeah, and like and
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one of the girls that he took home is like footy, think Aaron's gonna
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be here and he's like he hasn't been here in eight years. Still stop
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asking, Like, yeah, I think he's like he's I think he showed
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up to his family's thing for the holidays, like that was the thing.
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Uh, And like he here's his moment, like he's gone through the spiritual
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journey and I and I admire that, and I'm like, good for you.
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And he's made amends and and all of those goods. And he's got
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a new team. He just bought a new house, like eight million dollars
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new house. So it turns out you can make all the amends you want,
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but Carmen is still gonna get you. But the turf is a bitch.
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Yeah he didn't. He didn't make amends with the astro turf Diddy Somewhere
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somewhere in somewhere in that stadium, the turf monster, the turf Monster of
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New York was like, m he didn't apologize to me. Been playing on
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grass this whole time, Hum, bitch somewhere below the turf monsters saying,
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now is my time I've been waiting for you, keep calling me fake grass?
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How's your foot like? And then that moment hit and you could see
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it on his face, and I was like yeah, and they you know,
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the whole game, just speculation until the press conference when it's like it
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looks it doesn't look good. I remember the next the next morning, seeing
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a slow motion replay and they had it zoomed in on his lower leg and
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you could see the line down the back of his leg just kind of just
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kind of wobble in a way that is in no way natural. Yeah.
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Everyone looking at that's like, yeah, he's done. Yeah. And then
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you can see the if you watch it again, and I'm sure you can
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go back and look at you can see the recoil rolls up into into the
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back of his leg and and and then his and then just his face was
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like I'm done. And somebody I can't remember I was watching ESPN his earliest
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morning and they're like, well's he's definitely gonna come back, Like this is
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not the way he wanted it to go. It's a really really hard injury
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didn't come back from. Yeah, it's a full year type of situation.
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Yeah, and then to and then to get back and then just the trepidation
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of getting back on that uh and then yeah, I you know as much
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he's gonna have it, He's gonna have about a year to make amends with
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the turf Monster. Yeah, that's what I'm like. Maybe he can go
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on another iowaspan journey and then the turf Monster and him can hug it out
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on on a celestial plane somewhere. Uh, and then maybe next year he
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comes back and actually last longer than four plays. Jets fans are a special
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bunch because I don't know any Like they were so excited before the season started.
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I mean, and if it is the most Jets thing ever of you've
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just you've got arguably, you know, one of the best quarterbacks ever played
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the game, and you're like, oh, this is our year, this
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is our chance. We've in four plays j e. But for the undrafted
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kid from from Stephen Fos and to to win that game, uh in overtime,
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like that was like if you if you saw the Hard Knocks story about
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him, he basically forced his way onto that team, say forced or forrested
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because he don't no, no, he know, but he both I like
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football. He forced his way on basically onto that team, and and you
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know they got the win, and then that was I guess a morale was
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I don't know what they're gonna do in that position that that quarterback is clearly
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uh eleven years old, he's eleven years old and that but that, but
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that was the best Zach Martin's played. Like I was actually I think that
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I watched some of that game. You said, Zach Martin, you mean
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Zech Wilson, Zach Wilson. Yeah, and uh, I mean compared,
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But to be fair trade, Zach Martin also did the really good in the
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Cowboys games. And I might take him as quarterback over Zach Wilson. But
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look, if you're the Jets, all options are on the table because the
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truth what exach, what is this a second or third year? Uh?
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Two? Yeah, I mean the good thing here about the Treehouse Football Podcast
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is we're not gonna bar you with a bunch of knowledge. No, we're
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not gonna borry you with a bunch of knowledge and hard information. A lot
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of us gonna be conjecture and a lot of just you know, feelings.
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Yeah, you can go to you can go listen to that crap anywhere else.
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This is gonna be fun, exactly. This is gonna be fun.
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Yeah, And it was Zach Wilson. You could have said, Zach Morris
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I would be like, they look the same. I don't even care.
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But they both got saved by the belt. I don't care. Out,
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Yeah, they have the head coach turns and he's just on that that the
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cordless phone. I gotta do what he just freezes time. Yes, he
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has to turn to one of the cheerleaders and make sure she's off the caffeine
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pills before he can get into the game. But I mean, yeah,
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year two and good, and I hope they find a replacement rather quickly because
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he won the game. And that was a team effort. Again, you
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could feel that, like that fourth that when he got off the field,
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when Aaron Rodgers got off the field, that whole stadium was like, and
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so do we go now to beat traffic? Like that? That was a
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sense of the building. And then they did what they did and they had
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that one again. And Wilson, I don't know his first name, but
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uh, that catch in the end zone, which that that bobbled uh catch
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that he just caught laying on his back on the ground was brilliant highlight real
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number number two. I think it's is what it took over. Well,
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you know what's sad about that is I didn't even see that. In some
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of the clips on social media the next morning, it was all Aaron Rodgers
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leg recoiling. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the that's the story, right.
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But I hope Rodgers Achilles going the way of a piano chord. But
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yeah, but what if this was like and and let's let's see if we
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can call this what if it is one of those great moments in football history
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where this kid who's the backup to Aaron Rodgers, who got calling to this
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game, who is just literally I don't know how he got out of the
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sixth grade to play that night. I don't know what time it's bedtime is,
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but it's called it's called the permission slip roun. Okay, we didn't
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we didn't have those. We had permission to do nothing. So and then
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he and he wins. What if it's like this great I don't know,
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what if he like what if they go all the way, like they go
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to the dance? Like what if he is the they're going to go to
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the dance because it's the sixth grade social it's a mom mommy sundance. You
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just see the image of here's some you know, some lady over there on
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the sideline looking at her watch, going your bedtimes midnight, Zach, you
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better wrap this up over time. That's just the reporter from ESPN's like,
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I'm gonna ask you four questions and it's night, nighttime. And it's not
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a towel that the trainer pulls out to wipe his face. It's it's just
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blanky. Let see the press conference where he's got a juice box in front
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of him and his mouth piece is an actual passifier. The NFL really will
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put those logos on anything? Is that a binky? One? Last one,
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last piece of Cowboys information before before we move on to the college side
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of things. Here on the very first episode of the Treehouse Football podcast,
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and that is an allegation against Jerry Jones for making racially charged comments. There's
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a new lawsuit that's been filed against the NFL by a reporter named Jim Trotter,
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and he attributes a secondhand racist remark to Bill's owner Terry Pigoula. As
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to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Trotter makes a first hand allegation of inappropriate racially
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charged commentary. Do you guys hear about this ship? Yes? Yeah.
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Beginning at paragraph one ten of the complaint, Trotter explains that in the aftermath
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of John Gruden's departure from the Raiders in October twenty twenty one, after the
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release of various inappropriate emails, Trotter planned to share on NFL Now a racist
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statement that allegedly had been made by Jones to Trotter at the twenty twenty one
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Pro Bowl Hall of Fame game between the Steelers and the Cowboys. Trotter,
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while on the field before the game, was congregating with other reporters. The
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complaint alleges at one point, mister Trotter was speaking to Will McClay, the
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Cowboys vice president of player personnel, about the fact that NFL teams tend not
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to draft many players out of historically black colleges and universities also known as HBCUs,
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and whether that might be due to the lack of black people in personnel
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decision making positions like general managers. Mister Jones joined the conversation and mister Trotter
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asked why teams had so few black decision makers, and he says mister Jones
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dodged the question and stated that players get a large percentage of league revenue and
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majority of players are black. In effect, mister Jones was stating that black
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people should be quote be happy for what they have and not seek further advancement
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of their rights, positions in society, or a quality and mister Jones.
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Mister Trotter reiterated his question, to which mister Jones responded, I'm starting to
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feel a little defensive. However, notwithstanding jones previous answer on history of conduct,
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Trotter made it clear that he was not attacking him or even speaking about
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the Cowboys, but just asking about the league in general, and then,
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onto paragraph one sixteen of the complaint, mister Jones finally responded, quote,
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if blacks feels some kind of way, they should buy their own team and
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hire who they want to hire. This is the point at which I would
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like to point out that Jerry Jones has denied the allegation and said that it
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is inaccurate, and as far as the Bill's owner, he has said it's
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completely untrue on his end of things. You know, I don't think this
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story will gain any traction, and it's the same thing. It's why,
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you know, in the off season, when the pictures surfaced of Jerry Young
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Jerry Jones at the when they were integrating his school in Arkansas, and he
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you know, everyone tried to make a big deal out of it. But
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at the end of the day, I don't think the story has any traction
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because I think in general most people assume that Jerry Jones is kind of a
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racist. Thank you, Yes we do. He's an eight year old Andrew
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Arkansas. He's you know, that's that's not that's not shocking. The only
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reason it's the headline is because he owns the Cowboys. I guarantee you there's
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another eighty year old man in Arkansas right now saying the same stuff and no
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one shocked by it because it's an eight year old whit guy in Arkansas.
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No, there's there's also a million eighty year old men across this country.
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When that statement was made, when I know, yeah, so, uh
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what. Anytime stuff like this comes out, it just takes me back to
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when Bill Burr was talking about the the former owner of uh gosh, I
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think it was Golden State. Uh when when all the racist about Donald Sterling
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the Clippers, yeahs the Clippers. Yeah, when he when he said all
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the things he said and Bill came out and was like, Yeah, was
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anybody surprised. I would. It's like if if if he was at his
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age and how he grew up, if he wasn't racist, I'd be stunned.
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Yeah, you're right, I think that would be more surprising. The
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other way. The thing I think is always interesting is the Cowboys. Everything
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is under under is under a scope. You know, it's under a magnifying
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glass. Everything's always blown up because it's the Cowboys. And it's no different
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with Jerry Jones, except some of the Cowboys players that are not able to
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withstand some of the controversy many have over the years. Sometimes they don't,
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like I don't think uh Terrence Williams ever truly recovered from falling off that scooter
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in Frisco. And I mean like the actual two wheel razor scooter, not
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like an actual motorized scooter. Anyway. Yeah, I aggress No matter what
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controversy has ever popped up in front of or behind Jerry Jones, He's always
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been able to skate by it, slip through it, whatever it is people
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talk about. You know, Donald Trump being the teflon don Jerry Jones is
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more slippery than any other sports owner than any other eighty year old man making
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questionable comments or doing questionable things. Honestly, at the end of the day,
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Jerry Jones to me is kind of like a dolphin. He's horning any
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slippery Well. I'll tell you why Ilay was compared Jerry Jones too, and
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it's because their same agent from the same city is Bill Clinton, like talking
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about like it's just everything just kind of rolls off like like he'll be it
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might be in a in an s storm for a little bit, but at
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the end of the day, he's gonna get through it. And I think
25:48
part of the reason why the people that might get taken out oh yeah,
25:51
got him. And I think part of the reason why is one's popularity and
25:55
two at the end of the day, he's kind of likable. I don't
26:00
I don't know. If I don't know, if Jerry Jones isn't any way
26:02
likable, I wouldn't say that. I would just say that it's not shocking.
26:07
Like when I saw the picture, like the same picture that Trey was
26:10
talking about of the of when they were integrating to school, the first thing
26:14
I saw was the kid with a cigarette, like like they could smoke then
26:18
like like that was my I wasn't wasn't the only change that was happening at
26:23
the time. Yes, there was a no smoking policy apparently went up,
26:27
but that's what I because that when it when it came, and not to
26:33
take it to a serious note, but when it comes to racism and and
26:37
things like that, I'm forty I'll be forty eight this year. I've I've
26:41
I've dealt with it a lot and nothing stuns me. So when I hear
26:47
this stuff and I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, unless the
26:49
league does something about it, then bravo. But nobody else is gonna do
26:53
anything. It's not gonna gain any traction just because I go, oh yeah,
26:57
look who said it well and well, And it's also just it's also
27:00
just an allegation. As far as we know, there's no audio of this
27:03
there you know there's this, there's no video of it. So it's basically
27:07
it's a it's a he said, he said type of situation. One of
27:10
you's a reporter, one's a billionaire owner in the NFL. Who do you
27:12
think is going out ahead exactly? Who can who can buy the media enough
27:15
to where this story gets buried? Every single time. And it's also the
27:18
other white owner of another team is going, I didn't hear nothing, and
27:22
they're like, oh, okay, that I got you. Uh. And
27:26
it's when they call it a good old boys club, that's what they mean.
27:30
It's it's they all have the same thought process. They all think the
27:33
same way because they for us to think people evolve, they grow up that
27:42
way in that isolated cocoon of billionaires and and and that society to think that
27:48
they're just gonna wake up one day and evolve and go everything I've ever thought
27:52
was wrong. It's kind of presumptuous on our part. And you think he's
27:56
gonna skate this. Yeah, I I doubt like by a week from now
28:03
this is even a story. I'm actually kind of with you. And ironically,
28:06
that's the reason why I wanted to bring it up is because I bet
28:08
by the time we record the next Free House Football podcast, yeah, it's
28:15
not going to be a thing at all. I'm I'm honestly, I'm less
28:18
curious about what possible or what alleged racist comments or racially charged comments Jerry Jones
28:26
has. I'm more interested in the in the in the girl that said you're
28:30
my father, Yeah, how do we? Yeah, what happened to that
28:34
part? Like well, and there's also you know, there is a and
28:37
it happened in the last week that there's also a sexual harassment lawsuit against Jerry
28:45
that a judge said could could move forward. So it's not that Jerry's without
28:49
problems. I just don't think this one because at the end of the day,
28:53
and you know, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I
28:56
you know, money and power NFL is such a big business. I mean,
29:02
it is a juggernaut, and it is so tight end of every media
29:04
outlet that at the end of the day, I think they can bury a
29:07
story if it gain traction. But like I said, I think everyone just
29:12
kind of goes, yeah, it's Jerry, you know, yeah, he's
29:15
probably a racist, And kind of the what you're saying, Trey, is
29:18
that Jerry Jones has a really big shovel. Oh yeah, can burry whatever
29:25
he wants if he chooses. I think I also think Jerry Jones wakes up
29:29
every morning and like reads these things and just all he says is like God,
29:32
damn it, Scotch, Like that's like he blames all his problems on
29:52
you're listening to the Treehouse. Visit us online that Treehouse on air dot com.
30:07
You're in the Treehouse. Visit us online a Treehouse OnAir dot com.
30:15
Welcome back to the Treehouse Football Podcast number one. Now that we've had our
30:22
grubby Jerry Jones fingers all over the Dallas Cowboys week one, and I look
30:26
ahead to week two against and Aaron Rodgers less New York Jets time. What's
30:34
that, Trey? Oh, it's funny you're talking about Jerry Jones and how
30:40
like he is like TEF one, nothing's gonna stick to him. And then
30:44
you have, you know, on the other end of the spectrum. Have
30:47
you all read about the Michigan State football coach Mel Tucker? No? What
30:51
is this? Okay? So, now, I don't want to sound like
30:56
I'm a complete sports moron when it comes to current events. I know something
30:59
happened with Michigan State's head coach, but I don't know exactly, and I
31:03
wasn't sure if it was related to the gymnastics controversy they had with the Michigan
31:07
State doctor for the women's gymnastics scene, So I wasn't sure if those two
31:11
were combined. So there's something new. Yes. So now the backdrop of
31:15
this is the Larry Nasser situation in that Michigan State for years, knowingly or
31:21
unknowingly, you know, was a haven for Larry Nasser to just do horrible
31:25
things to girls and so, and there was a culture of cover up and
31:30
everything else. So they brought in at oh what, well in sports,
31:33
I mean that was gymnastics. But yeah, and so they brought in a
31:37
woman to basically be the compliance officer, not only a Title nine compliance offers,
31:44
to make sure that there was good reporting, that there was no retribution
31:48
against people who were making claims anything else. Well, evidently she and Mel
31:52
Tucker, the head football coach of Michigan State, became friends to the point
31:56
where he was masturbating on while on the phone with her. Did you say
32:02
they were friends? Well, they were friendly? I guess was this was
32:07
this his really really horrible attempt at getting out of the friend zone. You
32:14
know, I don't who knows. And and of all, I don't care
32:20
if if she was begging you, you just like she is the compliant,
32:24
like she's not going to lose in this situation. No, and I would,
32:29
well, first of all, if I'm melt Tucker, the head football
32:31
coach at Michigan State. The first thing I would be thinking of is my
32:35
is my ten year, ninety five million dollar contract. The second thing I
32:39
would be considering is if the title nine compliance officer for the university. If
32:46
Trey, like you said, she was begging me, Oh yeah, I
32:50
want you to do this, I want you to do that. I want
32:52
you to do I would assume it's a test, and if I fail that
32:54
test, I'm out of my ninety five million dollars. I'm not going to
32:58
assume, oh yeah, she wants me. No, I'm gonna so much
33:00
a test and I should pass it. I didn't know again, like with
33:04
you, Dad, I didn't know which scandal we were talking about. So
33:07
I read a little bit about this, and I think, what the the
33:09
angle that met? I just love saying mel Tucker because it's just it's just
33:14
such an old like nobody there's no fresh Mels coming out anymore, Like there's
33:17
nobody nobody's naming a kid Mel anymore. It's like we're done with Mels,
33:22
and Barbara's like there's no there's no more Rod Faith. I think I think
33:28
what's old becomes new again. I think I think Melvin may make a comeback.
33:30
Something I don't. I don't think. I don't think there's kids being
33:34
born today, Like there's a guy has a daughter and he's like, you
33:37
know the name of Ronda like that. I think those names are gone.
33:39
But mel I now, I don't know how much of this is what his
33:44
perception was, or what the truth is, or if it was just a
33:45
bad breakup. The his take on it, this was a consensual phone sex
33:52
thing between the fact that they were an item behind the scenes and he's he's
33:58
married it, I believe, yes, and again again it goes back into
34:02
the yes. But behind the scenes, I think it was, uh,
34:07
we kept it a secret because she is the compliance officer, and that's why
34:13
we kept it a secret. And I think when and also because he's married,
34:17
so it would make sense if they were having a relationship to keep it
34:21
quiet for those two reasons. And ninety five million dollars two okay, yeah,
34:28
and in like the second year of that ten year, ninety five million
34:30
dollar contract. But okay, yeah, well, well we'll say all of
34:36
that stipulate you're still you're you're now the head coach of a major college football
34:43
program. So obviously you have some semblance of intelligence and everything else. And
34:46
you you're married, so you know that if stuff goes south, that you're
34:52
dealing with someone who could absolutely wreck your life. Yes, but you also
34:57
but you've also both of you guys have also just hit on everything beforehand.
35:01
When you're like, they have the power to cover things up. There is
35:05
a history of cover ups. There is a history of burying things. So
35:07
when you see this, you're okay. First of all, men saying that
35:13
he could possibly feel invincible. Yeah, and and and also when it comes
35:15
to men being more intelligent when it comes to the fairst sex. Uh,
35:22
I didn't say more. I didn't say more intelligent. No, no,
35:23
And he's like for that situation said football terms. Yeah, you're like you
35:29
like he got to where he is, he's got to be somewhat intelligent when
35:30
it comes to like men and women, like we've started wars because of like
35:36
for women's sake, like to garner their attention. We're not the brightest.
35:39
When he will do pretty much anything at our disposal to get late. Yeah,
35:44
there's a great there's a great interview with remember Stevo from Jackass, like
35:46
he was he liked this girl in high school and he thought she was the
35:50
cutest thing in the world, and he was wanting her to ditch class with
35:53
him, and she's like, well, we can't. We don't have an
35:55
excuse to get out. So he ripped a tooth out of his mouth.
35:59
Uh, and he's gush, like, just physically ripped the twoth out of
36:01
his mouth and like asked to be excused from class to go to the nurse
36:07
and thought, and he goes his last words where he goes, Man,
36:09
she didn't think that was cool. Like I'm like, okay, yeah,
36:14
most women don't want to make out with you know, blood soaked. Yeah,
36:17
and so we're not the brightest when it comes to it. I think
36:20
he went, if I keep it quiet, you know, she's also she
36:23
could I mean, she could stand to lose too. She's a compliance officer
36:27
and we're having a relationship. But also it's me and they just signed me
36:30
to ninety five million dollars. They're gonna do whatever it's gonna take. And
36:36
I think he's thinking of that time back in those days when that was the
36:39
top of the list, like, hey, we keep all of this quiet,
36:42
shut up about it, because we have ninety five million dollars to lose.
36:45
And now we're in a different time where it's like, hey, listen,
36:47
we gotta call it for what it is. Yeah, but this you,
36:52
you are the head coach of a major program. You have ninety five
36:55
million dollars. Of all the women that you decide to have an affair with,
37:01
there there are very few that really could topple you, but the one,
37:06
because you know she was brought in, she already has outstanding credibility.
37:12
And all it takes is one fight and you're screwed. All it takes is
37:16
one fighter. Hey, where do you want to what do you want tonight?
37:22
And it ends up, Oh yeah, I had you. You were
37:24
playing with yourself on the phone. I'm gonna go tell everyone. No,
37:27
It's like the fight is like, you know, what do you want to
37:29
have for dinner night? Whatever you have with your wife the other night?
37:31
Like that's what and you you you said something and I think you mentioned backwards
37:37
because you said of all the women you could have an affair with, you
37:40
do mean when it comes to him, of all the women that would have
37:44
an affair with you, like, like, I don't know, there's not
37:46
a lot of people going around like, you know, I'm banging mel Let's
37:49
see that. No. Here's the thing though, but there are and that's
37:52
the other side of this is where the two of you actually coincide with the
37:57
two sides of the things that you're saying. He feels invincible because he's powerful,
38:00
he's a big football coach, and they'll cover up anything. And then
38:04
Trey's also saying it's like, well, this this, this is a powerful
38:07
and rich man. There are plenty of options for powerful men on a campus
38:14
where you have you have undergrad you have assistance, you there's a student body
38:19
there. You're not shortage of there's no shortage of options of all the people
38:24
that you decide you're going to risk everything. The one that like, yeah,
38:30
if it was some grad student, you know, assistant, Yeah,
38:31
he could probably bully her, pay her off with one hundred grand and this
38:35
goes away. You pick the one where if she goes ballistic on you,
38:38
you're screwed because she she can take you down, like she was brought in
38:44
just for this very purpose to bring you down. Anyone who was going to
38:46
do this. Yeah, and and and you know again, I always say,
38:51
like, let it all play out and if it turns into a lover's
38:52
spat or whatever, but if it is legitimate, like if in that situation,
38:59
like and I don't know because I've never done something like that. Uh,
39:05
what were they like what were they talking about? Like that he felt
39:07
the need to do, Like if that was the case, Like it couldn't
39:10
have been, like hey, let's talk about like the next compliance like the
39:15
next seminar that we have about sexual assault and how to, how to,
39:19
how to, how to catch sexual assault, know that it's happened to you
39:22
or whatever, how to report it whatever. What is going on there where
39:27
you feel compelled to do that? If if not for they were, as
39:30
he said, having a mutual phone sex thing and this turned into to whatever
39:35
it's turned into. I do like this. I could actually see that that
39:37
conversation getting awkward pretty fast. Is she's trying to go through the bullet points
39:42
of the next compliance meeting for Title nine purposes and his responses, what are
39:45
you wearing? Assumed? What kind law? At the end of the day,
39:59
I'll be very curious to see how it turns out. But as it
40:00
is, he's he's done, and he's he's been suspended. They're gonna end
40:06
up firing him, and uh, it's yeah, and then that school just
40:09
cannot No school can really tolerate it. But at Michigan State with the Larry
40:15
Naster stuff, really really has to be firm. Sorry for the punt on
40:19
this. Yeah. And and I love the fact that they start suspending him
40:23
without pay because normally what they'll do to kind of like play kate the whole
40:27
thing. It's like, hey, we're gonna suspend you like in the media,
40:30
but we'll still keep giving you your salary. Uh. And this one,
40:34
I think when you're like, you're right, I think they're gonna I
40:37
think he's done because they're like, listen, we're not giving any more money.
40:39
Yeah, because basically saying we're gonna keep the remainder of your contractor yeah.
40:45
And then I don't know, like and then in my head, I'm
40:47
like, I don't know where you It's situations like this song, where do
40:52
you go? What do you do after? Like like you can't it's not
40:54
like you can go, Like you can't go to high school and like,
40:57
hey, man, I used to coach at Michigan State. You can.
41:00
I mean like yeah, but you're not allowed to have a phone, Like
41:04
you, but you were allegedly beaten off on the phone with the compliance officers.
41:07
So we don't know how you're going to fit in with the guidance counselors
41:09
in high school. If this is what he does to a compliance officer,
41:14
I can't imagine what he would do to a parole officer. There will be
41:21
some small school that will, you know, go, oh wait, we
41:24
can have him. And I worked for Art Briles leaving Baylor will but just
41:30
for a second, I mean, Art Briles was still the pariah of I
41:32
mean Christ. They got like the offensive coordinator Oklahoma has been skewered this week
41:38
just for having Art Briles on the field on Saturday at the Oklahoma game.
41:43
Like the point is someone someone still hired him. Oh yeah, they thought,
41:46
oh yeah, we can get away with this, and then you know
41:49
every place I mean I think what the Canadian Football League, and then I
41:52
think maybe Liberty or someone like that Liberty University. There there there are there
41:57
are to me, there are you know, there are many categories of cockroach
42:00
occupations. One is football coach and another one is bad radio shows. They
42:07
always seem to find a way to get hired despite all the evidence being to
42:12
the contrary that they'll have any modicum of success. But it only takes one
42:17
program director or one athletic director to say, you know what, I like
42:24
this. I like it. I'm gonna make this decision. I'm gonna hire
42:28
this guy. You think Mel has a You think Mel has a brewery.
42:37
I think everyone's got a brewery these days. I'm shocked we don't have one.
42:40
We should start one. I mean, we were already branching out with
42:43
a football podcast. Why not a treehouse brewery run by run by a current
42:50
functional alcoholic, an Indian uh son of immigrants from this heat, and a
43:00
bona fide alcoholic who's been sober for seven years. If that's not If that's
43:05
not a recipe for success for an alcohol brand, I don't know what is.
43:07
Yeah, three unwise men muster fu draft will be the most entertaining.
43:17
Yeah, there's no doubt I'll put the India in. I PA, Let's
43:22
do Ours is actually authentic because Rogers the Indian trey is pale, and I'm
43:30
drinking the ale. Normally, this is where I would end the show.
43:40
But there's one more thing that I want to touch on again. Sorry for
43:44
the pun. Here in the very first episode of the Treehouse Football Podcast,
43:51
when that is we started the show with a surprise of the Cowboys putting up
43:55
forty points and shutting out the Giants in week one, the surprise of Aaron
44:00
Rodgers not being able to complete his first offensive series as a New York Jet.
44:05
And now my question for you, mister Trenholm, is this, Actually
44:09
I'm sorry. Now my question for you, Raj is this who do you
44:15
think was more surprised that Trey's Longhorn's upset Alabama? Alabama or Tray? I'm
44:25
gonna go with Tray. Really you so you think Alabama was less surprised getting
44:31
beat at home by eleventh ranked ut than Trey, who was saying before the
44:38
game to me via text message, Yeah, it doesn't look good. They're
44:43
not ready for that hostile environment. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like
44:47
when I think of when I think of the ultimate optimist, Trenholme doesn't come
44:52
to mind. So if you're giving me the option of one trend home versus
45:00
eighty eight thousand people in the stadium in Alabama, I'm going with Trent.
45:08
Yeah, I I I've watched I think the quarterback I think for for ut.
45:15
Uh, I'm just glad he cut his hair. Uh. I know,
45:19
his eyes on an old Cromle. I'm like the bullet thing whatever.
45:22
I don't understand that coming back. But he looks good, man, I
45:27
like the guy. The team looks good. I'm not gonna lie to you.
45:30
You know, for someone like that, that may have been one of
45:32
the more impressive things as yours, because he's been just burrated about his performance
45:38
last year. And you know, you have I forgot that there's one quarterback
45:43
he's supposed to be great, but then you have Arch Manning and the wings
45:45
and so there's a huge amount of pressure. There are a lot of people
45:50
were like why is he even starting? And uh, And then you know,
45:52
you go into Alabama and I mean it was the worst home loss Nickson
46:00
like, first time they've had a non conference home loss in like twenty years
46:02
and worst loss Sabans had since like h three. And they just physically dominated
46:08
Alabama And no, I would have bet everything that that would not was not
46:13
gonna happen. And you know, and I'm not sure, I'm not sure
46:15
who I feel worse for u Nick Saban's soul that I'm convinced he's sold to
46:21
the devil many years ago, or the sack of puppies that I assume that
46:24
he bludgeoned after the game. No puppies were harmed in the making of this
46:32
podcast as far as we know. No, he wouldn't surprise me if if
46:38
Nick Saban was the Grilla Deville of college football. Yeah, no, no,
46:42
no, he looks like he looks like he like like the players didn't
46:46
get to eat that night, Like like that's what like like you couldn't win
46:50
or you're gonna eat one of the two talking about talking about not having a
46:53
response from your friends. We were talking about the Cowboys and Giants and checking
46:55
on your Giants friends. I have three Alabama friends, two of which I
47:00
still have not heard from. And I was and I wasn't even talking crap
47:05
to him during the game. And I one of them who I knew he
47:08
was at the game, like he is a big Alabama alumni booster, and
47:13
I was like, are you okay? Like I didn't see that one coming.
47:16
You know it's gonna be And as a Texas fan, I can offer
47:20
the perspective of disappointment. It's what we know, and especially early season disappointment
47:25
and I'm like, it's okay, you know, y'all can still come back
47:28
from this. It's it's it's early and he was responsive. No, he
47:31
still has not responded. So that's two of your three Alabama fans you have
47:35
not heard from. I have not heard from my Giant fan either. Is
47:37
it possible that those Bama fans somehow found their way into the puppy sack?
47:45
Or didn't they No one tends to use them. Now, Joe might have
47:51
been so distraught that he put himself in the puppy sack. Just it's sort
47:57
of like an offering up to he's got a sacrifice if this mean Alabama will
48:01
win for a first first loss, like that, he has to sacrifice a
48:06
boosts. He just he just kneels down in front of He just kneels down
48:08
in front of Nick Saban. He said, roll tide. Now you're being
48:15
silly. He's gotta kneel down at Saban's altar that he does have. Like
48:20
we know he's got this, like he's got a dungeon with an altar and
48:22
he just sits there and he waits for them to sacrifice their their first booster.
48:30
Yeah, I like it. I again, I was I was stunned,
48:35
but I was very optimistic going into it. I was like, you
48:37
know what this could be. There's always that great upset. Yeah, in
48:40
the early weeks of college football. And I told Trey before the game,
48:44
I said, look, I have no dog in this fight. Like we
48:47
mentioned at the beginning of the show, I didn't go to college to cheer
48:51
for a football team because I went to UT arlankedon that didn't have one.
48:54
I went actually for broadcasting stuff, and so I don't have a favorite college
49:00
team on any sport whatever. I just like to watch a good game.
49:04
What I told Trade before this game is I'm not cheering for your Longhorns.
49:07
I hope the best for you as my friend, and I actually do think.
49:10
I don't know if I didn't think Texas was going to win the game,
49:14
but my hope was that they would because if they do, it's good
49:17
for college football as a whole. It's very sad for those puppies in office,
49:23
but it's good for the rest of college football. If Bama loses to
49:28
Texas at home. Uh yeah, I mean I I was, you know,
49:32
I was gonna go to UT. I was accepted, UT ended up
49:35
going to Southwest Texas State, which is in the state, you know,
49:37
Texas state school institutions. If you could compare them to the Jackson five Texas
49:42
states teed up. So what would so well, then what would ut Arlington
49:47
be? Would just be like cousin, No one even knows he could have
49:59
said Jackson the never saying look, I don't know if the two of you
50:05
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