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LaVena Johnson Murder Cover-Up · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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Speaker 1: The tragic death of nineteen year old Levenna Lynn Johnson,
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Speaker 1: a private first Class Army soldier who is serving in Iraq,
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Speaker 1: is a story that may have unveiled troubling secrets within
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Speaker 1: the United States Army. Her untimely death has been ruled
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Speaker 1: a suicide, even though evidence points to a murder, as
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Speaker 1: her body shows signs of abuse, sexual assault, and a
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Speaker 1: death beyond self infliction.
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Speaker 2: My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked
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Speaker 2: and Grim, a true crime podcast.
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Speaker 1: The following past material intend for a mature audience. Listener
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Speaker 1: Discretion is advised. It's playoff season. The NHL Stanley Playoffs
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Speaker 1: are on right now. Sorry, and just we're super excited.
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Speaker 1: We watched the Canucks play their first opening game the
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Speaker 1: other day, which they won. They did against Nashville Predators.
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Speaker 1: It was a fantastic game on both sides. But we
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Speaker 1: are rooting for the Canucks to go all the way
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Speaker 1: this year.
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Speaker 2: We totally are. I actually meant to throw on some
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Speaker 2: of the games because there were some other Canadian teams
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Speaker 2: playing tonight, but we were working. Yes, I just forgot,
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Speaker 2: so we're gonna have to look up those scores.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough I don't know if any of you guys
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Speaker 1: out there are sports fans, we generally speaking aren't. We
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Speaker 1: watched playoff hockey, and like, we root for the Canucks,
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Speaker 1: but we really got into it this year.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we needed a winter hobby.
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Speaker 1: And it's good because the Canucks just so happened to
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Speaker 1: be doing phenomenal this year. So we can say that
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Speaker 1: we're not bandwagoners because we watched almost their entire preseason.
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Speaker 2: Games too, So yeah, pretty well, Hey, yeah, I think
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Speaker 2: we missed a little bit at the beginning, but not
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Speaker 2: a whole lot.
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Speaker 1: We maybe missed. I bet you're like eight ten games
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Speaker 1: at the beginning, and then we're watching them and they
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Speaker 1: were doing really good, and then there was a bit
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Speaker 1: of a lull where they weren't doing so good, but
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Speaker 1: they're bringing it back and they play phenomenal first first
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Speaker 1: NFL Stanley Cup playoff game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Ripley hates our dog hates when when we're watching
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Speaker 2: hockey because we get excited the playoffs. I feel like
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Speaker 2: yesterday we got pretty dang excited, and she's like, oh man,
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Speaker 2: she doesn't like it when like someone's kind of showing
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Speaker 2: or being loud or kind of apprehensive or something right.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't like loud emotion because she's like, is something wrong?
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Speaker 1: Are you okay?
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Speaker 2: She'll literally come up and like want to give you
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Speaker 2: a hug and like confront, like comfort you, and yeah, even.
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Speaker 1: If it's good emotions, she thinks that something could be
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Speaker 1: wrong and you might be upset because like you're loud,
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Speaker 1: you must be yelling, you must be angry, you must
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Speaker 1: be mad, must be upset.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's going to be allowed a long
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Speaker 2: playoff season for.
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Speaker 1: Her, yes, most certainly. But before we just start ranting
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Speaker 1: and raving about hockey, we want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: we thank our patrons who sign up over on Patreon,
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Speaker 1: who support us behind the scenes get that extra awesome content.
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Speaker 1: And this week we had Amy Dunn sign up for Patreon,
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Speaker 1: So Amy, thank you so much. We appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Amy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. I want to talk about one more
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Speaker 1: quick little thing before we get into today's episode, and
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Speaker 1: that is something that we forgot to mention last week,
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Speaker 1: which I was going to ihad it on my list,
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Speaker 1: but OJ Simpson died.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I was like, what was what.
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Speaker 1: Did we So that was massive in the true crime
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Speaker 1: world because O. J. Simpson, famous for the Hey.
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Speaker 2: The glove doesn't fit.
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Speaker 1: He has officially passed.
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Speaker 2: Away in seventies. I think he was.
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Speaker 1: Some I think seventy four, I want to say, or no,
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Speaker 1: seventy six. I got it right here. Yeah, he passed
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Speaker 1: away April tenth, twenty twenty four. I mean, technically speaking,
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Speaker 1: he's innocent, technically speaking, according to the courts, But there
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Speaker 1: is a lot that goes into that case which throws
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Speaker 1: a lot of suspicion at him and the whole Hey,
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Speaker 1: that glove doesn't fit, even though there's literal footage of
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Speaker 1: him wearing those gloves and like TV reports and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, anyways, he passed.
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Speaker 2: Away, huh, which I feel like is a terrible segue
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Speaker 2: into this next case because you always think, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: people will get what's coming or whatever right, or like
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Speaker 2: the I can't even speak today. I'm like Harma fausted,
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Speaker 2: klarma arma, or just the the court systems, or like
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Speaker 2: you know, you're going to get in jail if you
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Speaker 2: did a crime.
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Speaker 1: But I think you do the crime, you do the time.
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Speaker 2: This one is going to make us mad, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Well you're about to find out, because this is the
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Speaker 1: story of Levenna Lynn Johnson.
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Speaker 2: Well, even after you read the intro, I was like.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen, Yes, she's nineteen years old.
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Speaker 2: That's young.
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Speaker 1: So let's dive into this. Are you ready?
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Speaker 2: I think so?
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Speaker 1: You think so? Okay? Well. She was born on July
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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, nineteen eighty five, in Florescent, Missouri. Levenna Johnson
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Speaker 1: grew up in a close knit household with her parents,
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Speaker 1: doctor Johnson and Linda Johnson. As she approached the end
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Speaker 1: of her high school years, Levenna made the tough decision
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Speaker 1: that would alter the course of her life and impact
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Speaker 1: her family deeply. Now, of course, I mean this is
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Speaker 1: we know, this is a true crime tale. The decision,
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Speaker 1: regardless of the events that did play out, it's still
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Speaker 1: a decision if it went the correct way or which
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Speaker 1: she hoped, It's still a decision that's big and would
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Speaker 1: impact your life and your family. So, despite her parents' reservations,
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Speaker 1: Levenna resolved to join the military. She wanted to alleviate
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Speaker 1: some of the financial strain in her family regarding the
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Speaker 1: looming costs of college tuitions for both herself and her sister.
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Speaker 1: So it was a choice, you know, more so for herself,
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Speaker 1: not one only wanting to provide back to her family,
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Speaker 1: of course, you know that monetary value, but also provide
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Speaker 1: for herself in an onset in your onsetting adult years,
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Speaker 1: a sense of independence, you know, is important for someone
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Speaker 1: as in those younger years, being becoming an adolescent, you know,
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Speaker 1: a young adult or whatever. And I think it was
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Speaker 1: her way of just just gaining that per se.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's impressive too that she's thinking about her parents
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Speaker 2: and them not having to pay for two kids going
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Speaker 2: to post secondary and you know, wanting to like provide
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Speaker 2: some financial income herself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 1: It is, And I don't think it was necessarily like
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Speaker 1: like she was doing. She was thinking of about a
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Speaker 1: few different angles. One on the surface, she was thinking like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I want to I want to provide for the family,
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Speaker 1: provide back for the family. But I think like subconsciously
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Speaker 1: it is that you know, gaining your independence. She's just
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Speaker 1: just about to graduate high school. That's when we're all
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Speaker 1: you know, going off in the world and becoming ourselves,
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Speaker 1: whether it's post secondary, moving out or relationships, whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: You're spreading your proverbial wings, right, And I think this
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Speaker 1: was a way of being able to do that, taking
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Speaker 1: on a responsibility as an adult, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: that was a big part of her decision.
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Speaker 2: Okay, good for her.
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Speaker 1: I mean her parents, on the other hand, they weren't
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Speaker 1: exactly concerned about her having to pay even though I
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Speaker 1: means that's what she was trying to do. She's trying
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Speaker 1: to like pay and ensure that she's putting in this
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Speaker 1: money with the family as well. But her parents weren't concerned.
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Speaker 1: They possessed the means to support not only enough money
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Speaker 1: for her education, but the money for her siblings as well.
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Speaker 2: So, Okay, I wondered because you said he was a doctor,
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Speaker 2: but I was like, well, maybe not all doctors make
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Speaker 2: good money. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: No, they had the monetary value, they had the means
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Speaker 1: of paying it. She just was like, hey, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I can pay it too. And I think that's that's
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Speaker 1: good on her for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: Now for her dad, doctor John Johnson, who was a
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Speaker 1: military psychologist and his career immersed himself within the intricacies
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Speaker 1: of military life quite a bit. But for him, Leavenna's
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Speaker 1: decision came as quite a surprise. He never wasn't one
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Speaker 1: to really like press the idea of the military on
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Speaker 1: his family specifically, So it was kind of like, oh,
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Speaker 1: almost came out of nowhere for him, and he couldn't
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Speaker 1: really shake the belief that his daughter had been swayed
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Speaker 1: by the persuasive recruiters who had frequented her high school.
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Speaker 1: So whether she was indoctrinated that way or not, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to say. And regardless of the origins of her decision,
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Speaker 1: Levenna was determined to pursue a path in the military.
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Speaker 1: It was a choice that spoke to her sense of duty,
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Speaker 1: her purpose, one that she embraced, and it was going
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Speaker 1: to be her conviction. So good on her.
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Speaker 2: It makes sense a little bit more so to me
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Speaker 2: now knowing that her dad too was part of it.
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Speaker 2: Right person, the military, for sure, it does.
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Speaker 1: She kind of grew up with that in the family,
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Speaker 1: whether he pressed it or not, that still gives you
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Speaker 1: perspective of that lifestyle or that sense of honor and
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Speaker 1: respect service sort of things. So I totally get it. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 1: on May of two thousand and five, just a year
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Speaker 1: after bidding farewell to her high school days, nineteen year
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Speaker 1: old Levenna found herself deployed in the one hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth Corps Support Battalion to balad Iraq. Despite the
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Speaker 1: miles that separated her from her home, she made a
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Speaker 1: point of reaching out very frequently. She would call, write
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Speaker 1: letters reassure her loved ones of her safety and her
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Speaker 1: well being. She shared tales of her experiences and service,
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Speaker 1: and from these conversations she appeared happy with her decision.
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Speaker 1: She was doing well where she was. However, as the
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Speaker 1: months passed, Levenna began talking about mistreatment and disrespect from
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Speaker 1: her superiors. She was always an optimist, but she downplayed
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Speaker 1: these concerns as best as she could while still venting appropriately.
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Speaker 1: Right so, she was insisting that the treatment was not
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Speaker 1: unique to her and urging that her urging to her
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Speaker 1: parents that there's nothing to worry about, there's nothing excessive
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Speaker 1: going on. Yet behind these reassuring words, Leah growing unease.
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Speaker 1: In her letters to her mother, Lavenna detailed the challenges
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Speaker 1: she faced, including instances where her authority was undermined by
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Speaker 1: insubordinate soldiers. One particular conversation with her father on January
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Speaker 1: fourteenth in two thousand and five revealed the depths of
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Speaker 1: her distress. She talked about an encounter with soldiers who
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Speaker 1: defied her command. She told them to leave the communication room,
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Speaker 1: but they ignored her. She felt helpless. She's sitting here
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Speaker 1: facing this insubordination even though they all knew she was
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Speaker 1: in charge. Instead of receiving support, though, she found herself
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Speaker 1: chastisized by her superior officer for her perceived lack of assertiveness.
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Speaker 1: She's too soft spoken. So the superior was a general
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Speaker 1: who came in and ordered the soldiers to leave, and
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Speaker 1: they did immediately. They listened to him, but they never
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Speaker 1: listened to Levenna. They just ignored her.
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Speaker 2: That's brutal, Actually it is, huh because no matter what,
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Speaker 2: no matter say, she's soft spoken or just the way
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Speaker 2: she speaks, like if she is of higher ranking ranking,
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Speaker 2: like they should be listening to her.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the general like never never reprimanded these these
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Speaker 1: soldiers for ignoring her either. Instead, he told her, you're
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Speaker 1: too soft spoken. You need to speak up, you need
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Speaker 1: to do better.
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Speaker 2: That's like showing she has zero support.
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Speaker 1: Yes, hmmm. So despite her father's suggestion of a battle buddy,
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Speaker 1: a battle buddy battle buddy, Levenna couldn't bring herself to
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Speaker 1: do it. I mean, so doctor Johnson urged her to
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Speaker 1: seek this battle buddy, And this battle buddy is a
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Speaker 1: trusted partner who would stand by a soldier's side through
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Speaker 1: thick and thin, ensuring their safety in the whole military life. Now,
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Speaker 1: I think it's more so employed in the field, so
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Speaker 1: it's like you have someone watching.
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Speaker 2: Your backs, right right, Yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: But she feared this. If she implemented this or asked
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Speaker 1: for this battle buddy, it might reinforce the perception of
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Speaker 1: her weakness or her soft spokenness that was already being
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Speaker 1: cast upon her by her superiors. And clearly her those
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Speaker 1: been blow her as well. So nevertheless, she told her
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Speaker 1: father that she would seek this out, she would request
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Speaker 1: this from the general, but in reality, she was going
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Speaker 1: to face the challenges on her own.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And I know she's telling her parents
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Speaker 2: not to worry, but I could only imagine that because
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Speaker 2: you would be so helpless. So you can't really help
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Speaker 2: her whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you know.
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Speaker 2: Like her dad's giving her a bit of advice or whatnot,
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Speaker 2: but he's not there, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, he's not there. He can't protect her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So anyways, a few weeks later, Levenna called home with
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Speaker 1: some exciting news. She was going to be returning home
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Speaker 1: for Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now, which.
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Speaker 1: Is fantastic because I know many people who are serving
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Speaker 1: their country, whether it's across seas or even just stationed,
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Speaker 1: you know, a few miles away, it's hard to actually
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Speaker 1: get to come home for Christmas. That was major.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't imagine a lot of them get that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Necessarily, definitely not. And she immediately told her family, like,
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Speaker 1: don't decorate the Christmas tree. It was her favorite part
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Speaker 1: of Christmas. She wanted to be there to do it
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Speaker 1: with them, so they held off on decorating the tree,
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Speaker 1: waiting for her to get home so she could do
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Speaker 1: it with them.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: The anticipation of her homecoming filled the household with absolute joy,
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Speaker 1: in each passing day bringing them closer to reuniting with
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Speaker 1: their daughter. They couldn't wait. However, the promise of a
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Speaker 1: reunion would soon be shattered when a somber visitor knocked
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Speaker 1: on their door just three days after Levenna's phone call.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so shit, she's so young and it's the holidays, correct, Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's just some real shitty icing on the cake.
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Speaker 1: There with heavy hearts, the Johnson's received the devastating news
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Speaker 1: that their daughter would not be returning home alive. Levenna's
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Speaker 1: dreams of college and a future beyond the battlefield were
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Speaker 1: gone in an instant, eight short weeks after setting foot
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Speaker 1: in Iraq, in a mere eight days before her twentieth birthday,
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Speaker 1: Levenna Johnson's life was tragically cut short as the first
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Speaker 1: female soldier to lose their life in the conflicts in
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Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan. The messenger standing at their doorstep delivering
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Speaker 1: the harsh news shattered the Johnson families world, and it
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Speaker 1: only got heavier when he told them that she had
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Speaker 1: tragically taken her own life.
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Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, that is the worst knock on the
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Speaker 2: door you could ever get.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe so. I can think of something that
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Speaker 1: would be worse.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, of course, they were shocked and struggled to believe
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Speaker 1: what they were hearing about their daughter. Doctor Johnson, drawing
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Speaker 1: his own on his own military experience, couldn't shake the
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Speaker 1: immediate nagging sense of suspicion that was gnawing at him,
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Speaker 1: while his wife, Linda flat out rejected the notion that
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Speaker 1: her daughter could ever take her own life. So immediately
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Speaker 1: they were suspicious.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, yeah, she was pumped to come home. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so you wouldn't think that, you know, if you have
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Speaker 2: something that exciting to look forward to, that you would
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Speaker 2: necessarily you know, well not necessarily.
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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I'm I'm. I would rebuttle that and say,
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Speaker 1: many of the people who are struggling with with depression.
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Speaker 2: Right before, yeah, they.
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Speaker 1: Often are the ones that have the biggest smile on
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Speaker 1: their face they hide it, or right.
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Speaker 2: Before they have a little bit of time where you know,
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Speaker 2: they are like quite happy, yeah, and life seems a
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Speaker 2: lot better.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Generally speaking, you can never see this coming. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So I would say that regardless of how happy she
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Speaker 1: was or regardless of her mood, you never know. But
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Speaker 1: there was a feeling that her parents had in their gut.
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Speaker 1: They're like, there's no way they knew, and they just
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Speaker 1: rejected that notion immediately. Now, a day later, a call
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Speaker 1: came from one of the generals and they gave them
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Speaker 1: more information and offered a glimpse into the events that
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Speaker 1: led up to Levenna's untimely death. The investigation that ensued
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Speaker 1: uncovered details that painted the puzzling picture. After completing her
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Speaker 1: morning shift as usual, Levenna got changed into her training clothes,
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Speaker 1: but failed to show up to meet her comrades for training.
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Speaker 1: A soldier was sent to search for her, and they
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Speaker 1: ultimately discovered her lifeless body in a contractor's tent, surrounded
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Speaker 1: by charred remnants of paper.
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Speaker 2: What the shit?
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Speaker 1: The general believed that Levenna had been grappling with pain
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Speaker 1: of a recent breakup with her boyfriend of two months,
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Speaker 1: which he had done callously through email. They suggested that
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Speaker 1: she had printed out these hurtful emails, tucked them away
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Speaker 1: in her pocket, and then went on a errand to
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Speaker 1: purchase some snacks and a six pack of pop or soda.
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Speaker 1: Whether you're from the States or Canada, you call it
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Speaker 1: pap or soda. And along with her on this little
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Speaker 1: trek she went with an unnamed other soldier and in
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Speaker 1: tow she had her N sixteen service weapon with her.
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Speaker 1: So when M sixteen is a rifle? As a military
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Speaker 1: narrative unfolded, doctor Johnson found himself increasingly troubled by the
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Speaker 1: discrepancy surrounding Levena's death. Despite the official conclusion of suicide,
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Speaker 1: He and his wife couldn't shake the idea their daughter
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Speaker 1: had instead been murdered and someone was covering it up.
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Speaker 1: One particular inconsistency inconsistency immediately cast out on the military's
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Speaker 1: account the sheer physical impossibility of Levenna, standing at just
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Speaker 1: five foot one inch tall and weighing less than one
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds, maneuvering the bulky forty inch long M sixteen
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Speaker 1: rifle into her mouth to fire the fatal shot upon
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Speaker 1: herself as they said she did. They said she put
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Speaker 1: the gun in her mouth, managed to pull the trigger
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Speaker 1: to end her life. But a defied logic and deflated
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Speaker 1: any sense of credibility upon the official version of events.
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Speaker 2: Holy shit, Okay. Also, she's tiny.
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Speaker 1: He she is very small. Yes. So, before Levena's body
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Speaker 1: was returned home for burial, the military claim that they
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Speaker 1: have conducted an autopsy as well, purportedly confirming their narrative
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Speaker 1: on how events unfolded. As Levena's casket, draped in the
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Speaker 1: American flag, arrived at the airport, the Johnsons grappled with
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Speaker 1: the profound sense of loss and disbelief as they picked
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Speaker 1: up the casket of their daughter. They were advised against
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Speaker 1: viewing their daughter's body and having an open casket due
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Speaker 1: to the grim condition of her remains. I mean, she
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Speaker 1: had a loaded weapon, pulled the trigger with the barrel
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Speaker 1: pointed in her mouth upwards. It wouldn't be a pretty sight.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, parent or no, yeah, you wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: Want to see that, No, definitely not. But they did.
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Speaker 2: Holy shit, Okay, it did not stop them because they
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Speaker 2: just they knew, they just knew something was wrong.
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Speaker 1: They knew knew something was wrong, and they were determined
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Speaker 1: to face the truth. And they made the decision to
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Speaker 1: open her casket.
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Speaker 2: Okay, but fuck that that. They even had to you know,
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Speaker 2: I know, like they had to look at that.
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Speaker 1: So with trembling hands and heavy hearts, they began to
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Speaker 1: lift the lid, and in that moment, as they gazed
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Speaker 1: upon the face of their deceased daughter, she was remarkably intact,
20:20
Speaker 1: near perfectly intact. The fuck not what you expect from
20:24
Speaker 1: someone who shot themselves in the head with an M
20:27
Speaker 1: sixteen via the roof of their mouth. There was, however,
20:32
Speaker 1: a small hole, which was a gunshot wound, just on
20:35
Speaker 1: the left side of her head, and it sent a
20:38
Speaker 1: shiver down doctor Johnson's spine when he saw it. As
20:42
Speaker 1: he gazed upon his daughter, the realization dawned on him.
20:46
Speaker 1: Someone had gone through great lengths to conceal the truth
20:50
Speaker 1: behind Levena's death. Not only did she not have a
20:53
Speaker 1: gunshot wound in her mouth and exiting through the back
20:56
Speaker 1: of her head, the gunshot was on the side of
20:58
Speaker 1: her head. She had some abrasions, cuts, some bruising on
21:03
Speaker 1: her body around her neck, and even a broken tooth.
21:08
Speaker 1: They found much more than a discrepancy in the bullet
21:11
Speaker 1: wound these small minor abrasions on her remains. They also
21:15
Speaker 1: made the discovery that plastic surgery, which was done to
21:18
Speaker 1: mend her broken nose post mortem, existed.
21:23
Speaker 2: Holy shit, are you serious?
21:27
Speaker 1: Yes?
21:28
Speaker 2: Okay, this is making me feel like sick. Yes, like
21:32
Speaker 2: sick to my stomach. Holy shit.
21:34
Speaker 1: Yes, So she had a broken nose, plastic surgery was
21:38
Speaker 1: done to cover that up.
21:42
Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, that's a lot to take in there.
21:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, despite the military's inconsistencies and insistence that the
21:55
Speaker 1: wound was done with an M sixteen rifle, experts Donald
22:01
Speaker 1: Marion and Cyril wetch contested this assertion, pointing to the
22:06
Speaker 1: evidence suggesting that a nine millimeter pistol was likely the
22:10
Speaker 1: weapon instead, and for some unknown reason, the bullet from
22:14
Speaker 1: this incident was not recovered, so there could not be
22:17
Speaker 1: a match to prove this.
22:18
Speaker 2: Okay, so they were just sorry, my brain's just going
22:22
Speaker 2: like spinning here, No spin away, they were. They were
22:26
Speaker 2: just coming up with some sort of story that would
22:30
Speaker 2: kind of would show like, would make a parent not
22:33
Speaker 2: want to open the coffin, right.
22:35
Speaker 1: It seems that way.
22:36
Speaker 2: Something so brutal, so graphic, so terrible to see that
22:41
Speaker 2: you know, probably a majority of parents and rightfully so
22:46
Speaker 2: wouldn't have opened it.
22:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, I wouldn't want to open that casket.
22:50
Speaker 2: Like you just probably wouldn't because you're like, holy shit,
22:52
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to. I don't want to see
22:54
Speaker 2: like my kid like that.
22:55
Speaker 1: Oh definitely.
22:57
Speaker 2: But it was totally different than.
23:00
Speaker 1: No, they faced it despite what the military had said,
23:05
Speaker 1: despite whoever it was had said, and they discovered how
23:11
Speaker 1: inconsistent the story was. The reality is, she wasn't shot
23:15
Speaker 1: upward through her mouth. She shot sideways through what I'm
23:18
Speaker 1: assuming is approximately her temple. The plastic surgery done on
23:23
Speaker 1: her nose to cover up that her nose had been broken,
23:26
Speaker 1: the wounds that were on her body, which we will
23:30
Speaker 1: get into a little bit later on some of the
23:31
Speaker 1: wounds that were found. But there's abrasions, there's a broken tooth,
23:34
Speaker 1: there's bruising.
23:36
Speaker 2: Which is just shit that you wouldn't have if you
23:38
Speaker 2: committed suicide.
23:40
Speaker 1: Especially if it was via a gun. Yeah, if sure,
23:44
Speaker 1: if you maybe, if you can committed suicide by jumping
23:46
Speaker 1: off a cliff and tumbled or something, Yeah, maybe, but
23:49
Speaker 1: it doesn't fit. Yeah, doesn't fit the means of death.
23:53
Speaker 2: Holy crap. Okay, this is brutal.
23:59
Speaker 1: One of the more perplexing, or you could even argue,
24:03
Speaker 1: disturbing discoveries on her body was that Levenna's white dress gloves,
24:08
Speaker 1: which were part of her uniform that she was sent
24:10
Speaker 1: home wearing in her coffin, had been glued on her hands,
24:18
Speaker 1: which is not a normal practice, an unheard of practice.
24:23
Speaker 1: In fact, these gloves were glued on her hand and
24:26
Speaker 1: were concealing strange third degree burns.
24:32
Speaker 2: Wow, this is just like pissing me off.
24:37
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I can't blame you on that way.
24:41
Speaker 2: Well, the fuck the gloves are glued to.
24:43
Speaker 1: Her hand, glued to her hands. They did not want
24:46
Speaker 1: these fucking gloves to be removed.
24:48
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, someone needs to just be completely
24:51
Speaker 2: disgusted in themselves because this is unreal.
24:55
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm even wondering if the glue on the
24:57
Speaker 1: hands could potentially, like put the gloves on, could potentially
25:01
Speaker 1: be means of Hey, you know what if someone's attacked,
25:04
Speaker 1: you go defensive wounds, right, nails. DNA underfingernails is a
25:08
Speaker 1: very popular way to find DNA of an assailant from
25:12
Speaker 1: defensive victims. Yeah, gluing the hands, the gloves in the
25:17
Speaker 1: hands could be means of a preventing that DNA and
25:19
Speaker 1: b actually removing the DNA with the glue or tainting it.
25:25
Speaker 1: That's my assumption or assertion.
25:26
Speaker 2: But we and yeah, like also hiding more you know,
25:32
Speaker 2: evidence that points that this was not a suicide, correct, Yeah.
25:38
Speaker 1: So they were determined to find the truth, and the
25:41
Speaker 1: Johnson's enlisted the help of a private investigator. What then
25:45
Speaker 1: covered was a tale of unspeakable abuse, a reality far
25:51
Speaker 1: removed from the sanitized version, if you will, presented by
25:54
Speaker 1: the military. The decision to hire this private investigator marked
25:59
Speaker 1: a turning point for the Johnson family, But even as
26:02
Speaker 1: Levenna's hidden suffering emerged, the Johnson's grappled with the staggering
26:06
Speaker 1: weight of betrayal from the military. Beyond verbal assault, which
26:11
Speaker 1: we already know ones that she was already kind of
26:14
Speaker 1: complaining or alluding to her family about but still downplaying.
26:19
Speaker 1: The discovery of ongoing sexual abuse at the hands of
26:22
Speaker 1: her peers was uncovered, and the treatment Levenna was undergoing
26:27
Speaker 1: for sexually transmitted infections as a result also cast harsh
26:31
Speaker 1: light on her ordeal.
26:34
Speaker 2: Seriously, yes, this was something that was ongoing.
26:39
Speaker 1: Correct.
26:40
Speaker 2: Holy shit?
26:42
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're looking back and seeing people who are
26:47
Speaker 1: not giving her the respect, who are not listening to her,
26:51
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure probably would have been ones who
26:54
Speaker 1: would have turned on her.
26:56
Speaker 2: Holy what kind of environment is this? I mean, I
27:01
Speaker 2: don't know much about this sort of shit, but like that,
27:05
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just not okay.
27:08
Speaker 1: No, Now, like I've I've worked in some pretty toxic,
27:12
Speaker 1: uh work environments, ones where like not office environments, I'm
27:17
Speaker 1: talking like you know, production where you're cursing and screaming
27:21
Speaker 1: back and forth and it's like you don't Like I've
27:23
Speaker 1: been inches for my boss's face, telling them to like
27:25
Speaker 1: fuck off, like get the fuck out of my face.
27:28
Speaker 1: Like that sort of shit. So I've been in toxic
27:30
Speaker 1: environments and I get it. I understand it's how things
27:34
Speaker 1: are sometimes that doesn't mean it's okay.
27:37
Speaker 2: Well, and but and not to like downplay what you
27:40
Speaker 2: just said or anything, but the sexual assault, that's not all.
27:43
Speaker 2: That's a that's a crime. Yeah, No, that needs to
27:47
Speaker 2: be like taken care of.
27:48
Speaker 1: What I'm alluding to is I'm saying, I understand there's
27:52
Speaker 1: ways things are done in certain workplaces, right, And I'm
27:55
Speaker 1: sure there's certain ways things are done in the military
27:59
Speaker 1: that you were or even potential people who are listening
28:02
Speaker 1: just will not understand. And if we heard it, we'd
28:04
Speaker 1: be like, how dare they do that? But it's like
28:06
Speaker 1: that's just how.
28:06
Speaker 2: It works, right, Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
28:09
Speaker 1: But there's lines. There are lines you do not fucking
28:12
Speaker 1: cross in the military. You listen to your fucking superiors.
28:16
Speaker 1: In the military. You need to have discipline, you need
28:20
Speaker 1: to look out for those beside you, behind you, And
28:24
Speaker 1: like you say, sexual assault, assault, that's a fucking crime.
28:28
Speaker 1: You are now looking at treason. You should be going
28:30
Speaker 1: to fucking jail. So I understand there's ways things happen,
28:34
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that there's an excuse for this bullshit.
28:38
Speaker 2: No, no, this like, yeah, I mean yelling at someone
28:44
Speaker 2: or trying to get things across in like you know,
28:47
Speaker 2: a rude tone or mean tone or whatever, something completely
28:50
Speaker 2: different than the shit that she is having to go.
28:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's unacceptable. By far, Yeah, by far so.
28:59
Speaker 1: Over the ensuing years, the Johnson's waged a tireless battle
29:04
Speaker 1: for transparracy, with the military wielding the power of the
29:08
Speaker 1: Freedom of Information Act to pry open the tightly sealed
29:12
Speaker 1: secrecy that they were holding. Slowly but steadily, little bits
29:16
Speaker 1: of truth were beginning to emerge. There was the revelation
29:22
Speaker 1: of a second autopsy that was done when that was
29:24
Speaker 1: devoid of any trace of gun residue powder on Levena's hands,
29:28
Speaker 1: which shattered the reality of the suicide narrative, especially if
29:34
Speaker 1: it was done with a nine millimeter pistol. You may
29:38
Speaker 1: argue that if she used the rifle, that she would
29:41
Speaker 1: not be using her hands. Sure, okay, because you know what,
29:44
Speaker 1: you're probably using your foot to pull the trigger. It's
29:46
Speaker 1: that far away. You're not gonna be able to reach
29:48
Speaker 1: the trigger or some sort of implement. Your hand's not
29:51
Speaker 1: gonna be around the barrel, gotcha, sure, but it most
29:55
Speaker 1: likely was done with a nine millimeter to the side
29:58
Speaker 1: of the head. Would be gun residue on her hands
30:02
Speaker 1: if she did that. Did pull that trigger?
30:04
Speaker 2: Right?
30:05
Speaker 1: Yet, as the Johnson's delve deeper, the truth was consistently
30:08
Speaker 1: being obscured more and more. There was, of course, pieces
30:11
Speaker 1: they were getting, but there was also more that was
30:13
Speaker 1: being hidden, more and deeper, and more and more and more,
30:16
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was being obscured by the
30:18
Speaker 1: blurry photographs that were provided by the military of this scene,
30:22
Speaker 1: the crime scene scene, of her body and along with
30:25
Speaker 1: concealed documents and information. Now, these blurry photographs that they
30:29
Speaker 1: were provided were basically like shitty, low resolution photos that
30:33
Speaker 1: were then photocopied, So it's black and white, shitty photocopies
30:37
Speaker 1: that like you can barely see shit.
30:40
Speaker 2: So this is unbelievable. I mean, and the parents are
30:44
Speaker 2: already having to face that their daughters has died and
30:48
Speaker 2: they're having to go through all this bullshit.
30:50
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's I can't imagine having to go through these.
30:53
Speaker 2: No, I just think it would just be raging.
30:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. So within these piles of documents they have been
31:00
Speaker 1: able to actually get from the military, Like I said,
31:02
Speaker 1: through things like the Freedom of Information Act. There was
31:06
Speaker 1: a Now I couldn't find a whole lot of information
31:10
Speaker 1: on what this exactly was, but there was a mysterious
31:14
Speaker 1: page that was found in this document pile one where
31:18
Speaker 1: there was a lot of illegible things on it, whether
31:22
Speaker 1: it was things that were smudged or blacked out, but
31:23
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a page that shouldn't be
31:26
Speaker 1: in there. They shouldn't have it. It held a lot
31:28
Speaker 1: of information that had been not given to them so far.
31:33
Speaker 1: Oh shit, so information that wasn't given to them, and
31:36
Speaker 1: a lot of it was blotted out, blacked out, that
31:38
Speaker 1: sort of thing. So they're like, we want to know
31:40
Speaker 1: what this blacked out stuff is, Like, you clearly have
31:43
Speaker 1: this document, what the fuck is that? Hand it over
31:47
Speaker 1: right now. Some speculate the document was accidentally included in
31:51
Speaker 1: the pile, while others actually speculate that there was a
31:54
Speaker 1: deliberate act from someone who wanted the family to actually
31:57
Speaker 1: uncover the truth. And I hope it is the latter.
31:59
Speaker 1: I hope that there was someone good out there who's
32:01
Speaker 1: trying to do the bet the right thing, regardless of
32:04
Speaker 1: its origin. Though the page held the promise of unlocking
32:08
Speaker 1: these concealed secrets, which ignited a fierce legal battle for
32:14
Speaker 1: the access of these documents. Doctor Johnson refused to relent,
32:21
Speaker 1: and turning to their congressman for assistance. The Johnsons waged
32:25
Speaker 1: a tireless campaign, and they did not yield until the
32:29
Speaker 1: elusive document was finally pride from the military's grip.
32:34
Speaker 2: Okay, see, I was thinking that was going to be
32:37
Speaker 2: like a battle that he was going to lose.
32:39
Speaker 1: They got it. WUS paid off and they were given
32:42
Speaker 1: the file CAM.
32:43
Speaker 2: I'm a bit surprised with.
32:45
Speaker 1: Clarity afforded by the newly obtained files, the Johnsons were
32:48
Speaker 1: confronted with a chilling horror. Instead of the pixelated, grainy,
32:53
Speaker 1: black and white photocopied images that they were given initially,
32:57
Speaker 1: the file contained clear color of photos of the crime
33:01
Speaker 1: scene and autopsy. So the photos that were actually taken,
33:06
Speaker 1: rather than shittley copied, emailed and whatever.
33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and trying to just conceal exactly so.
33:14
Speaker 1: Previously obscure details could be seen very clearly and very sharply.
33:20
Speaker 1: The images painted a scene of nothing more than brutality.
33:24
Speaker 1: Their Dottie's body is seen covered in bruises, scratches, and
33:30
Speaker 1: teeth marks on her torso. The presence of what appeared
33:35
Speaker 1: to be LIE or another caustic substance was found on
33:40
Speaker 1: her vaginal area, which hinted at an attempt to erase
33:43
Speaker 1: any DNA evidence.
33:46
Speaker 2: Oh man, holy shit, this is just getting worse and worse.
33:53
Speaker 1: There was mud, dirt, and debris coating her back in
33:57
Speaker 1: a trail of blood leading from the tent she was
34:01
Speaker 1: found in, which suggestested a desperate struggle.
34:05
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, are you good? I don't even like gosh,
34:14
Speaker 2: just processing this right now is just like it's just
34:17
Speaker 2: like breaking me a little bit. This is unbelievable. This
34:20
Speaker 2: is unbelievable.
34:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't believe when it actually was reading about
34:24
Speaker 1: this case. I can't believe I haven't heard of it sooner, honestly,
34:27
Speaker 1: And I.
34:27
Speaker 2: Just I'm trying to figure out too, why the fuck
34:29
Speaker 2: would would anyone like gobot covering this up. I don't know,
34:33
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I mean, I get why they would,
34:36
Speaker 2: but like they shouldn't have they shouldn't have had to.
34:38
Speaker 2: I mean, whoever did this just needs to face the consequences.
34:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone knows something and someone who is not responsible.
34:47
Speaker 1: Let me put it that way, because someone who's responsible
34:50
Speaker 1: is of course going to cover their own tracks. Yeah,
34:52
Speaker 1: someone who was not involved knows something is yes, also helping,
34:58
Speaker 1: and they're also helping.
35:00
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know the only reason I'm thinking
35:03
Speaker 2: in my head right now is if it was quite
35:05
Speaker 2: a few people that were doing this to her, which
35:08
Speaker 2: is horrible, you can think, because then you know, like
35:13
Speaker 2: you want to hide. I guess if there's like numerous
35:16
Speaker 2: people there that need to face some serious shit. But
35:20
Speaker 2: if it was just one, I don't think you would
35:22
Speaker 2: necessarily hide it.
35:23
Speaker 1: Whether it's one, fucking five, ten, I don't care. Oh yeah,
35:28
Speaker 1: there is someone who fucking knows, and I guarantee you
35:32
Speaker 1: it's going to be a superior who knows, a general,
35:35
Speaker 1: someone who fucking knows. Gosh, that is so disgusting, because
35:40
Speaker 1: there is fucking superiors who signed off on the documents
35:44
Speaker 1: of this, people who issued get her plastic surgery on
35:50
Speaker 1: her fucking nose, for example, to fix this so no
35:53
Speaker 1: one finds out.
35:54
Speaker 2: You know, that's almost being just as guilty. Really.
35:57
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So as they tried to process this new
36:03
Speaker 1: information that was now in their hands, the Johnsons were
36:06
Speaker 1: left to just ponder the unanswered questions that lingered. Had
36:10
Speaker 1: Levenna been targeted for retribution by those she tried to
36:14
Speaker 1: challenge or speak up against? You know? Was she a
36:18
Speaker 1: victim of a brutal salt? Was it like who was responsible?
36:22
Speaker 1: Was it a superior? Was it someone that answered to her? What?
36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah?
36:27
Speaker 1: All these questions came up and there was no answers.
36:32
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the Johnson's relentless pursuit of justice would hit
36:36
Speaker 1: a brick wall when the US Army callously refuse their
36:41
Speaker 1: demands for accountability, insisting that the case was closed and
36:45
Speaker 1: beyond re examination. It's closed, it's done. Nothing more can
36:50
Speaker 1: be can be done from here?
36:52
Speaker 2: They should they That's embarrassing.
36:54
Speaker 1: It is.
36:56
Speaker 2: So.
36:56
Speaker 1: The Johnson family, though, still didn't want to give up.
36:59
Speaker 1: They turned to the mainstream media for assistance, hoping to
37:02
Speaker 1: amplify their cries for justice to a wider audience. CBS
37:06
Speaker 1: and ABC responded to their plea financing another autopsy in
37:11
Speaker 1: a bid to uncover the truth behind Levenna's tragic demise.
37:15
Speaker 1: The findings were horrifying. Levenna's neck had also been broken,
37:20
Speaker 1: and parts of her vagina tongue and anus had been removed.
37:24
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Yet the military's autopsy made no mention of
37:29
Speaker 1: such removal, nor did they inform the Johnson's of the
37:32
Speaker 1: extent of their daughter's injury. Despite investigating significant resource or sorry,
37:39
Speaker 1: investing significant resources into investigating the Levenna sorry Levenna's case,
37:44
Speaker 1: both CBS and ABC inexplicably chose not to run the story.
37:50
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
37:51
Speaker 1: Allegations of military pressure and threats to withhold advertising revenue
37:56
Speaker 1: and funds were rumored to be partially part of the reason.
38:00
Speaker 2: Why well, yeah, that's kind of earlier. While why I
38:03
Speaker 2: was so surprised that they were able to get this
38:06
Speaker 2: the folder with more information because they're literally up against
38:10
Speaker 2: you know, like the government.
38:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are so that It just yeah, not only
38:17
Speaker 1: the government. It's not like you're sitting here like fighting
38:20
Speaker 1: Donald Trump or Justin Trudeau. It's like, no, you're going
38:23
Speaker 1: up against the armed military government. Like this is a
38:28
Speaker 1: whole other category here. You got the dudes who are like, yeah,
38:31
Speaker 1: we got a fucking sniper up on the tower with
38:34
Speaker 1: his crosshairs on you right now.
38:36
Speaker 2: It really shows like the character of the parents though,
38:41
Speaker 2: like they are they are like badasses. Hey, like, they
38:44
Speaker 2: don't give a shit. They're just like, we want to
38:46
Speaker 2: figure out what happened to our daughter, and we don't
38:48
Speaker 2: care who we're dealing with.
38:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were fucking relentless. They did what they could
38:54
Speaker 1: fucking do, and they did tenfold beyond that.
38:57
Speaker 2: Which is so awesome in honor of their daughter.
39:00
Speaker 1: Right, I couldn't agree more. That's all they did is
39:04
Speaker 1: continued their fight. And that's literally what I have written next.
39:07
Speaker 1: The Johnson's continued their fight because that's what they did.
39:10
Speaker 1: They continued. They were listing support of congressional representatives to
39:15
Speaker 1: pressure the Army into reopening the investigation. Yet, when confronted
39:19
Speaker 1: with the contradictions that were brought up via autopsies, the photos, everything,
39:24
Speaker 1: all the unanswered questions surrounding her death, Army officials remained
39:28
Speaker 1: with the narrative. Out with the narrative they had It
39:31
Speaker 1: was a suicide. What about her broken nose, a broken neck?
39:35
Speaker 1: It was a suicide.
39:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way, there's no whole way.
39:40
Speaker 1: Both the drag marks from the tent, What about the
39:43
Speaker 1: teeth marks on her torso it was a suicide. What
39:48
Speaker 1: about the removal of orifices from her body, which were
39:51
Speaker 1: clearly done in one of the autopsies you guys did.
39:55
Speaker 1: It was a suicide. She put an N sixteen into
40:00
Speaker 1: her mouth, pulled the trigger, even though that M sixteen
40:03
Speaker 1: is way too big for her body and the bullet
40:04
Speaker 1: hole is found on the side of her fucking head.
40:07
Speaker 2: It was smaller gun.
40:09
Speaker 1: Like they just no suicide, this is what happened.
40:12
Speaker 2: I don't even understand how that's like, how that can
40:15
Speaker 2: be justified.
40:16
Speaker 1: That's literally like I've got my hand in the cookie
40:20
Speaker 1: jar and I'm eating a cookie and there's chocolate all
40:22
Speaker 1: over my face, and you walk into the kitchen, Ben,
40:25
Speaker 1: are you eating cookies? And I'm just like, no, no,
40:28
Speaker 1: And I just keep chewing and I keep pulling cookies
40:31
Speaker 1: out of the cookie jar and I keep stuffing my face, which, honestly,
40:34
Speaker 1: that kind of sounds like me thanks for backing me up.
40:37
Speaker 2: I kind of like could really relate to this just
40:40
Speaker 2: picturing it and.
40:41
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at you. No, I didn't touch the
40:43
Speaker 1: cookies and I'm literally eating it in front of you.
40:46
Speaker 1: That that's no fucking different.
40:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like what this girl, this woman went through
40:54
Speaker 2: just seems like complete hell.
40:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
40:57
Speaker 2: And the fact that they're covering it up. Makes it
41:00
Speaker 2: so much worse.
41:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much worse. Yeap. So the Johnson family were
41:07
Speaker 1: left with the painful reality that their daughter's killer remained
41:10
Speaker 1: unpunished or killer, while they were condemned to a lifetime
41:16
Speaker 1: of anguish unanswered questions without their daughter. Her tragic fate,
41:22
Speaker 1: it seems, will forever be buried by a bureaucratic red
41:26
Speaker 1: tape of the USA military. And that is the story
41:29
Speaker 1: of Levenna Johnson.
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Speaker 2: Holy shit, that is horrible. That's a horrible story.
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Speaker 1: I know it, just there is no resolve. It got
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Speaker 1: worse and worse and worse. We know the fucking answer,
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Speaker 1: but we will never get confirmation of it. We will
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Speaker 1: never understand who. We only understand what. We don't know why,
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Speaker 1: we don't know who, We don't know how many.
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Speaker 2: I'm I feel like it would be more than one.
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Speaker 2: I agree, because I think it was just one person. Well,
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Speaker 2: A like that her injuries were so substantial, and if
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Speaker 2: it was just one, I'm not sure superiors would go
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Speaker 2: to the extent that they are they have to cover
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Speaker 2: that up necessarily if it was just one individual, right,
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: I agree?
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Speaker 2: So I think it was many many. I agree, and
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Speaker 2: maybe even them themselves could have.
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Speaker 1: Been very well could have been. We recently just did
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Speaker 1: an episode on a high ranking military official who commanded
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Speaker 1: some fucking atrocious crimes on a subordinate in fact, broke
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Speaker 1: into her house and fucking sexually assaulted her and killed
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Speaker 1: her and hit her body. I can't remember the dude's name.
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Speaker 1: It was just a couple episodes ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just forget it's instantly, Okay, was she r?
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Speaker 1: I don't want to remember those guys.
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Speaker 2: Well, I know, we don't even try to, but like
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Speaker 2: she the only the only woman there. I we don't
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Speaker 2: even know how big it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: big the camp was. I don't know how big her
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Speaker 1: regime or whatever the word is called. I said it
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Speaker 1: at the very beginning. Hold on, I'm gonna go back.
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Speaker 1: Where is it now or no, battalion? Is it battalion?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't remember.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, her battalion? Okay, yeah, okay, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: big her battalion was. I don't know if there's other
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Speaker 1: battalions stationed in the same camp encampments as them as
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Speaker 1: For all I know, it could be like fucking twelve
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Speaker 1: of them camping out in the bush and there's like
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Speaker 1: three tenths I don't know, Yeah, yeah, you don't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness, just like such an innocent life
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Speaker 2: that just had the best of intentions.
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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I know, and then some fucking piece
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Speaker 1: of shit decided that, uh, and they're.
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Speaker 2: Just getting away with it, living their life like holy shit.
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Speaker 2: I hope that they are just haunted, like just fucking
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Speaker 2: haunted of what they did, their actions, to the extent
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Speaker 2: that they just can't even live a normal life whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: I hope so too, because they should not.
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Speaker 1: They should be in jail, I agree, But instead they're
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Speaker 1: most likely getting praise for their service to the country,
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Speaker 1: which makes me fucking sick to my stomach.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that does.
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Speaker 1: Anyways, Hopefully, you guys, I don't want to say enjoyed
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Speaker 1: this episode every time I'm like, hopefully enjoyed this episode.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to say enjoyed this episode because they're fucking shitty,
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Speaker 2: I don't know how any word that because right now
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Speaker 2: I'm just pissed.
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Speaker 1: Has taken me to that Hot Wings episode with what's
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Speaker 2: Always well done. That is a story that really did
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Speaker 2: does need to be brought to to attention.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Levenna's story needs to be told more often.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so wow, this one broke my heart. But anyways,
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