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Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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I'm Nate Kane, your host, and there's a lot to talk about, and uh there's a lot going on this week.
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Uh one of the biggest things, of course, that has been all over the news is the release of the Epstein files.
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And I don't want to get too much into it because I think there's still a lot that is being released and more to come.
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The uh it's interesting that there were several documents uh that were released that some were redacted, some were not, some were heavily redacted, others weren't.
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These are documents that you know have been looked over and reviewed by the Justice Department.
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So it doesn't really seem consistent.
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Um there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason, and there were multiple documents that seem to be prepared statements uh prepared for the Department of Justice uh for the for this release.
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So uh I don't know what they're getting ready to announce, but it appears that they are getting ready to announce something.
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And but like I said, with the lack of you know, total transparency on all of this, and I really do think there has been a lack, and I think that uh it's it's weird to say the least that you've got um both Cash Patel and uh Dan Bongino upon you know, basically entering into their jobs, they they were very quick to come out and say that Epstein did in fact kill himself and that there's no you know, there's no there.
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Um I don't know what is going on, and and I don't know that we ever will.
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So I don't really want to waste too much more energy on that story, but just to say that it's interesting to see uh that you've got people um, you know, in all of these positions of power, like in France and in the Uh the UK uh and uh you have people that are resigning their posts, basically because of their involvement with Jeffrey Epstein, whether it was financially or whether it wasn't some sexual scandal or whatever, uh clearly there's a lot of people that this guy was connected to.
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Uh and I think there's going to be more names that will get revealed and that will be coming out.
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Of course, some stuff that has come out that has been quite disgusting is you know, some of the stuff about Bill Gates, but I don't think anybody's surprised at that.
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I mean, we knew the guy was a scumbag.
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I mean, let's look at it.
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You know, his wife basically divorced him over this stuff.
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So uh and she's come out publicly, you know, and has talked about it uh in recent interviews.
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So like I said, uh to me, it's more this stuff is more or less uh gossip, and unless they're gonna start arresting people, I'm just not interested anymore.
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The other thing though that I do think is important is that there have been a couple of stories that I think we need to keep our eye on.
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Things that I do think matter, things that will have an impact on us and possibly on our country and on the rest of the world.
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And that is uh that there was a story that broke or that came out uh I think it was in Newsmax, if I'm not mistaken, but um what it talked about was that Benjamin Netanyahu is coming to meet with Trump and uh Wednesday, and they're gonna be discussing, of course, Iran and the Iranian uh and U.S.
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uh Iran basically had meetings or negotiations with the U.S.
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These were held uh indirectly, uh nuclear talks that were held in Oman on Friday, apparently.
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This is according to Netanyahu's office, and the prime minister uh believes that all negotiations must include limiting the ballistic missiles and ending support for the Iranian access.
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Uh basically, you know, they need to stop funding all of this terrorism around Israel.
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I don't know how well that, you know, look, uh I don't know for one.
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I think Trump's gonna do what Trump thinks he needs to do.
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Uh, but there's some other things that have been happening.
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I mean, you you had, you know, there the remember, you got the USS Abraham Lincoln that um, you know, basically is moving into the the uh international water surrounding Iran.
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And what's interesting is uh you had the basically Iranians sent three attack drones heading straight for the USS Abraham Lincoln.
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Uh they were taken out.
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Uh so there's been provocation and there has been um military action by our military to knock this out.
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And then we also sent a gunship uh to basically meet these.
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They tried to do basically uh two operations at once.
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Once to one to get us, I think the the drones were designed to kind of get us focused on the drones.
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And then at the same time, there was a U.S.
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flagged tanker that was uh traveling in um international waters, and you had uh basically six attack ships, uh fast attack ships by uh Iran that surrounded this tanker carrying um, I think heavy crewed, and they they were clearly trying to take possession of it, telling them they needed to stop, they were going to be boarded.
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Uh the U.S.
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was on top of it.
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They basically got their uh destroyers in in place very quickly, and they sent a gunship to basically fire on these uh you know, fire warning shots on these um fast attack ships.
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So there's a lot of stuff heating up that the media is not really covering right now because they're they're they're focused, their attention is on the shiny object, right?
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The Epstein files and all of that.
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But there's actually real world stuff going on right now, folks.
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Um the other thing too is uh there were supposedly there were supposed to be uh U.S.
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uh flights, uh U.S.
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war uh warship or warplanes that were gonna fly over the uh that were supposed to fly over the um super poll, and and they were called off.
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And uh there's rumors going around that uh that that was in basically what happened was those planes got called back to prepare for a military situation.
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So with ships moving into the Straits of Hormuz and uh surrounding uh uh you know Iran and Tehran uh with the attacks that were made on our ships that we successfully defeated, and with the Israeli prime minister coming uh to the U.S.
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on Wednesday, uh let's just say I got a hunch that something is getting ready to go down.
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I mean, let's face it, this is exactly the same kind of thing that happened with Venezuela.
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Now the challenge is is that the Trump administration has got to figure out a way to act within the uh the War Powers Act.
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Uh so you know, either you know, defending an imminent threat, something like that.
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Obviously, Trump doesn't want to, and nor should he uh go to Congress about this before acting because uh any operation that we would have any kind of success with, we cannot take the risk of you know, these crazed leftists in our Congress leaking this stuff.
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And I really do think that they probably would.
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So I think it's uh important that uh the president have the ability to make those decisions.
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And uh, but I do see that there's some volatility here.
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And the the fact is is that what we're looking at in the situation with Iran is this is a rogue nation whose people are ready.
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They're ready to take up their own government and to actually um you know live with freedom.
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Uh that's been evident.
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The other thing that's going on that's different here than say Afghanistan is that you have a country that already has infrastructure.
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Uh they already have infrastructure, they already know how to live, you know, with freedom.
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This isn't a tribal, you know, type of country uh where we're trying to instill or or implement something that has never existed.
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Iran uh back in the 70s was quite free.
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Uh you look at pictures, it doesn't look a whole lot different than America.
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So I think if there is an opportunity to do something, I think that uh Trump probably needs to do it.
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Because at the end of the day, this is the largest state sponsor of terrorism around the world, and it is creating major instability in the Middle East as well as around the world.
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The uh last thing I want to mention is about uh Hakeem Jeffries uh was was uh basically made himself
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Look like a fool when he was being interviewed and being asked about uh voter ID and basically demanding that uh you know that they're gonna fight voter ID because uh any type of voter ID is is uh desired by the Republicans for only one reason, so they can cheat.
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Again, this is them projecting what they are doing.
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The whole reason that they don't want voter ID is so they can cheat.
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Uh and they and everybody knows this, even the Democrats know this.
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You know, the recent poll that was done showed that overwhelmingly Americans agree there should be voter ID to vote.
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Even Democrats, it was over 70% of them believe that uh there should be voter ID for voting in an election.
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Uh, I think people are done, you know, with this nonsense uh in that has been being pushed by the Democrats.
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If they you know, they don't seem to be able to figure out that the American people are waking up, uh they're done with illegal, you know, uh immigration and having open borders.
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They are done with this uh you know, transgenderism stuff on our youth.
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Uh they are done with uh illegals, you know, and not just illegals, but um but election fraud.
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Uh people want to see uh, you know, the they want to see and know that our elections are free and fair and that they are not being uh rigged.
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And and I think even Democrats see the importance of that.
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So, folks, that's about all we have time for in this first segment.
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But uh, we're gonna have some great guests on in the second and third segments.
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We're gonna be getting into talking about Antifa and their infiltration into America's cities and what is behind that.
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And we're also going to get into uh in the third segment.
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I've got a guest coming on that we're going to be talking about the arrest and extradition of one of the leaders of the attacks on Benghazi and uh what that means for you know, really the world.
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Uh, I think it is a clear sign to the world that we will come after you and we will eventually get you.
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If you attack the U.S., uh we're going to bring you to justice no matter how long it takes.
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So good on them for making sure to get this guy.
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But I think it's interesting that they've now gotten Maduro and now they've got this other guy and uh involved with Benghazi and they took them alive.
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Why that's important is because the intelligence that they're going to get out of them, and who knows where that will lead.
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With that said, uh, we'll be right back after a short break.
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Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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Joining me now is Robert Morningstar, a civilian intelligence analyst, investigative journalist and psychotherapist based out of New York City.
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We're going to get into discussing the escalation of political violence associated with groups like Antifa on the left and its increasing integration into mainstream democratic discourse.
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Robert, thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you for inviting me.
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It's a very important subject for all of us.
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So, you know, this is an interesting topic.
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I think a lot of people don't realize that that this is not new.
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This is something that has been going on, uh, you know, it goes in cycles.
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Uh, but it does seem that at least within my lifetime, there's this re-issurgence of this political violence that's been taking place, and it has become what I do think is uh a little bit unusual is it's become very mainstream within the Democratic Party.
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Yes.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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What is different this time around?
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And and tell us a little about the history of this kind of behavior.
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Well, the history is over a hundred years old.
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And I'll get uh into that in a second.
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But with regard to this modern manifestation of uh organized violence, it really goes back um to Barack Obama and his political manual, rules for radicals.
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If you recall that book became the standard operating manual for the Democratic Party when Obama was running for office, and when I got curious and started to read it and found out that that book is dedicated by Saul Ilinski, the author who was a mentor to Hillary Clinton.
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The book is dedicated to Lucifer.
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Yeah, uh, that's right.
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The preface says this is dedicated to Lucifer, the first rebel, uh, and so on.
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So be aware that it is uh demonic ideology from the get-go, but Antifa really goes back over a hundred years.
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The first Antifa were the Bolshevik street mobs that overthrew the czar.
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People don't know that when the czar and uh Imperial Russia were overthrown, it was a democratic revolution.
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And the person who headed it or assumed the leadership was a man, a moderate Democrat named Alexander Kerensky.
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When he uh came into power, he arranged for the the czar to uh step down and they arranged to have a parliament.
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They were thinking of having something like England with a constitutional monarchy uh with a parliament.
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So that went through in the czar was living um and outside politics, but then the Bolsheviks organized their army, street mobs, violent radicals who began uh burning, torching, assassinating, and through political assassinations, they took over the Russian revolution.
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The Russian revolution was not initially communist, but once they took power, they began the Red Terror, which killed millions of millions of Christians.
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So another thing that I have to emphasize to people, it comes from a saying by George Santyana, who's a writer in the 1930s.
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He said, those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.
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It's a very important statement because we're at that stage.
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You know, this this word democracy is uh it's an interesting word because you hear people all the time saying our democracy, our democracy, our democracy.
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However, one of the most you know famous American fathers of our of our country, Thomas Jefferson is quoted as saying a democracy is nothing more than mob rule where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.
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Now, he understood something, and most of those men understood something because they were watching pure democracy uh you know taking place within France, where they were beheading people with Jacobins.
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That's another that's another uh term for what they are talking about democracy.
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The Jacobins took over France and they started beheading thousands and thousands of a slaughter and a bloodlust.
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And so yeah, and I think that's an important distinction to make too, because so when you hear it things are done in a way to, you know, especially languages used to confuse people, right?
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We have a democratic republic.
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It is not a democracy.
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And when people use that term, our democracy, we really do need to correct them because what they are doing is they are setting things up so that people will accept a pure democracy as an acceptable means of government when it is not.
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If you look at all of these, uh, you know, you have the democratic people's republic, you know, yeah.
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They all say democratic.
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Yeah, say they all say that, right?
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Uh the same thing with uh North Korea, same thing with pretty much every communist country that has ever existed as you said.
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North Africa.
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Yes, that's right.
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Because let me tell you this.
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I started warning people about this um this marriage between communism and Islam back in 1999.
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Yeah.
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Which is a weird, uh weird uh situation now.
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Yeah, unrestricted warfare.
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And I read in that book that they planned to attack the United States and hit a target that was specifically economic and psychological or spiritual, and they said we should uh work on the world trade centers, and we should use a third party group like the bin Laden group.
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It says that right there in unrestricted warfare.
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They conceived of something else called broadband warfare using the jargon of telecommunications.
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It meant warfare on every level economic, military, scientific, sociological.
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So I coined a word in 1999.
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So people don't know what we're dealing with.
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So I coined the word communism, and then people said, Oh, Robert, that's so radical.
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You know, people are going to think you're a religious fanatic.
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Well, guess what?
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In 2002, Osama bin Laden was hiding in a cave in Afghanistan, and he issued a fatwa, that's a religious order to the umah.
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The um is the Muslim group soul, it's like the beehive.
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And he said, and I memorize this because it vindicated me and validated my term.
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He said, I urge all members of the UMA to support communist insurrections and revolutions wherever they may occur, because communism and Islam are the same thing.
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Unquote.
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There you have it.
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Now the I brought up George Santayana.
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Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it, because I want to inform our fellow Americans that Germany did not lose the first world war.
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Germany and the Allied powers fought to a stalemate, and that was what the armistice represented.
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The armistice was a deal to stop the fighting and the carnage and to meet in Paris for the Versailles Peace Conference in January.
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So November 11th, 1918 was the armistice.
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Immediately thereafter, the a Soviet Bolshevik group in Germany, they call it the German revolution, but they don't tell you that it was a communist revolution.
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And so Antifa, the Bolshevik street mob paradigm was set loose on Germany, and the that proto Antifa group killed police officers, burned a municipal uh offices, killed mayors, and escalated and escalated and erupted in all the major cities, and eventually they forced the Kaiser and his staff and his family to flee to Holland.
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If the Kaiser and his staff had negotiated the peace treaty in Versailles, there would have been no adult hit.
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But the people that went to Versailles to negotiate the Germans uh side of the peace treaty, they sold out the country and they were socialists, which is actually a soft form of communism.
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You know, the difference between a socialist and a communist is a communist is a socialist in a hurry.
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But that's what took over Germany and totally corrupted it and debased it, uh ruined the economy, and that is what set up the arrival of Hitler.
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Now, in our time, Antifa, as I am making people aware, is a very old organization.
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It is what was uh festering in Germany in the 1970s, and it was funded by Maoist communists.
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So it's uh snake in the grass, it's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and now they set it loose here in the United States during the Obama era, and uh really went crazy when President Trump was elected.
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So we saw Minneapolis burning, we saw Portland going into chaos, Seattle turned into an S-hole country, as far as I'm concerned.
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Uh this is chaos.
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This is the chaos that they were talking about in the book Rules for Radicals, that they had to disrupt the social fabric.
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And that it really is out of that playbook.
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And what's interesting is that when you look at and you begin to investigate uh these people who show up at these protests oftentimes, it's the same people showing up in different places being bussed in.
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Uh, it is clearly organized, it is not a homegrown organic uh protest that occurs.
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I mean, these are none of these people who are showing up to these protests are like first-time protesters, they are even residents, professional agitators, or even residents uh I've got reports that they've seen the buses rolling into Minneapolis, yeah, as we saw them rolling into um Washington, DC, January 6th, the day the night before.
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All of these white buses were arriving with people that were obviously not Trump supporters, and so it now turns out that the FBI has discovered that funding for the Minneapolis uh rioters uh against ICE has been coming from Canada and from China.
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The Los Angeles riots were being funded by a man named Neville Ray Singham.
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He was born here in 1954, he went to Harvard University.
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Uh he formed a company called Thought Works.
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He sold the company for 753 million dollars to a Chinese um Chinese front for the Chinese military, because every company, Chinese company is owned by the Chinese military.
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So he lives in Shanghai with uh Julie Evans, his wife, the founder of Code Pink, and it's turned out that they found out that Neville Ray Singham was funding the Los Angeles riots.
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And the way we found out about it was you remember that during the riots, they were using tear gas.
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So all of a sudden, all of these batches of uh face masks and gas masks with plexiglass covers were just being dumped all over Los Angeles and distributed to the rioters, and I started saying, who is paying for these?
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This is incredible amount of money.
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So the the feds got on the job and they found out that Neville Roy Singham and Code Pink from China were um funding the No Kings demonstrations and those demonstrations in uh Los Angeles, likewise, George Soros organization was open society.
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Yeah, it was funding the rioting that was occurring in New York uh way back when uh why do you think that these people are able to get away with this and they they never seem to get arrested, they never seem to be charged with insurrection.
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Uh they never seem to be charged with you know uh inciting a riot.
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I mean, these people are basically enemies of the state, and as far as I'm concerned, uh if they're not from this country, anybody participating or or or accepting uh or coordinating with them, they really are working with enemies of the state.
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So how is it that we allow this to happen in this country?
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Well, because they are so powerful that they have bought the Congress, they have bought governors, uh, Governor Waltz is in their pocket, Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis is in their pocket, um, Governor Newsom, uh, who's probably worse than they are.
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All of these democrats, uh, Pritzker in uh Illinois, all of them, and then there's a Chinese governor in um in Massachusetts.
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So the Eminem's Greece, a French term for the great presence, the hidden hand, um, is operating, has been operating for decades, and that is what we see happening here.
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And we one of the shifts, one of the shifts that I've seen, and I think this is speaks to why it is becoming more mainstream, is the uh democratic socialists of America and their their infiltration into the Democratic uh party.
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Uh, they seem to be running the show now.
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Uh, do you agree with that assessment?
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I agree.
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They they hijacked the old Democrat Party, just like the Bolsheviks after the Russian revolution hijacked the democratic revolution of Alexander Kerensky.
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And uh, these um so-called leaders like Charles Schumer and the others are scared of them, they're frightened because these are violent people.
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These are Soviets, I mean, basically Soviet-style uh communism is what it is.
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And you look at their own platform and their their key elements include social ownership ownership or democratic control of major productive resources to meet collectivism, you know, to collective to collectivize needs rather than generate private profit.
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These people are against they're against capitalism, they are for communism and redistribution and and collectivism.
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They're against capitalism, they're against free enterprise, they're private ownership individualism, they're against individualism, and they're here's one of the the catchwords they are anti racist, always it's anti racist, but what you have to understand is the
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Meaning of racist that they are using.
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The term racist was popularized by Leon Trotsky during the Red Terror.
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And he condemned all racists.
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And his definition of a racist was anyone who loved their nation, their culture, their ethnicity, or their religion more than they loved communism.
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That's right.
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In fact, they the word internationalism is word that was basically created by communists.
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I mean, that's a they don't want nationalism.
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They don't want you seeing uh, you know, having any sense of patriotism unless it's you know, it's a love of communism or a love of you know, the the uh this this sense of of internationalism, and that's why they pushed the open borders and all of that.
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It's all part of their team.
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They hate nations.
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Now, I'm glad you brought this up because at the core of it, going again back to the 1920s when Antifa uh uh germinated in Germany, no pun intended.
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A book came out called Pan Europa.
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It was written by a man named Richard Kodenhov Kalergi.
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And he in Pan Europa was the first he's considered the architect of the European Union, and in that book, he called for the dissolution of the Caucasian race.
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He called for mass migration to dissolve the cohesion of Caucasian race and Caucasian civilization.
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He wanted no borders, no ethnic identity, no culture, and to bring communism to Europe.
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And that is essentially what has happened with the European Union.
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It is the culmination of what is called the Kalergi plan.
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No one knew about very few handful of people knew what the Kalergi plan was in 2016.
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But a friend of mine, a reporter from Ireland, Patrick O'Connor O'Connell, um wrote to me and he said, Do you know about the Kalargi plan?
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And he sent me the book and he sent me the thesis, and I published uh exposing the Kalergi Plan and the UN agenda of 2030, which has now was kicked back to 2025.
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We are fighting the Kalergi plan, and their plan is to destroy our society, create chaos, civil war, and distrust.
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One of the things that is a hallmark of every communist regime is to turn the populace against itself so that neighbor does not trust neighbor.
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When the when East Germany fell and the Stasi files were released, people went in there and discovered that fully one third of the East German people were working for the Stasi spying on the other two thirds.
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In fact, it was so outrageous that one woman found out that her husband had married her 30 years before, under the orders of the Stasi to spy on her political activities.
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So I think this is the challenge in Venezuela, to be honest with you.
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I think uh uh you know, where why we couldn't just remove the current government in its entirety is because there's so many people that are embedded in the police state of Venezuela, uh that it makes it very difficult to you know to make that transition.
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Yeah, let me tell you something about Venezuela.
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The operation to get Maduro is really an extraction and a rescue.
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Trump made it clear that he couldn't stay in office, and Maduro was aware that if he surrendered or voluntarily stepped down, he would be killed by his Cuban bodyguard.
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He didn't have a medium guard bodyguard of uh of um Venezuelans, he was surrounded by a Cuban bodyguard that knew that if he tries to um I've often wondered if there was a secret deal made to get him out of there uh because of that.
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So well, we're just about out of time, and uh Robert, I'd love to have you on my my show, uh the Raising Cain show to do a long form interview to get into you know a lot more of these topics around the subject.
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Sure.
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Um but as we're approaching the next break, folks.
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I want you to stay tuned upon our return.
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I'll be speaking with Jack Donna uh regarding the recent arrest and extradition of an individual responsible for leading the attack on Benghazi, and I think it's going to be a very interesting topic to follow this one.
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Uh, but look, uh, you know, I want to thank you, Robert.
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Uh where can people follow you?
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Where can they uh okay?
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I have a radio program.
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Uh as a matter of fact, it's at three o'clock today.
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All you have to do is type in revolution.radio and go to studio A.
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And I'm also on Substack, and it's my name, Robert Morningstar.
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Substack.com, and that's the Morningstar Report.
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And I have an uh a knockout article on Epstein.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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That would be I'm very interested in that.
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I'd love to see your your thoughts on that.
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Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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We now turn to our third and final segment.
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Joining me is my good friend Jack Donna, who's been on the show multiple times, and we're going to examine the recent arrest and extradition of Zubayr al Bakush, a key participant in the 2012 Benghazi attack.
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We're going to discuss the circumstances of his apprehension, the charges he faces, including murder, terrorism, and arson related to the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans and the broader implications for accountability in international terrorism cases.
37:32
Jack, thank you so much for joining us.
37:36
Well, thank you for having me, Nate.
37:38
I appreciate it.
37:40
So uh Jack, I want to you know ask your thoughts on this.
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I mean, that this maybe a good place to start with this is that you know, obviously, this happened a while ago.
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And uh, and I I see you know, kind of this is uh America projecting to the rest of the world that you know you you may get away with something, but you're not gonna get away with it forever.
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Uh, that we will eventually get you and and bring you to justice.
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Um, what are your thoughts on that?
38:05
Uh, why do you think there has been um, you know, to me, this kind of follows along with what happened in Venezuela in the capture of Maduro.
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Uh, do you see a pattern that is arising here in going after these guys that uh have long time uh criminal records?
38:22
Well, yeah, I do actually, and I think that you know, with you know, from a technological standpoint, uh, you know, uh, and and artificial intelligence advances, you know, it it the the it is very clear that you know, like for example, you know, Benghazi happened what was it 14 years ago?
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Yeah, it's gonna be 14 years.
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This year be 14 years.
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Um, and so uh I it's my understanding that uh, you know, you know, using videotapes uh and artificial intelligence, they were able to identify you know these people, and so these people have been on the run for a while.
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Um, but uh, you know, again, to your point, uh it's very clear that uh that you know you can run, but you can't hide.
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And so a lot of these, a lot of these crimes are being that you know that these terrorists have pulled off or being solved forensically and they're being identified, and they're and uh they're being taken out, you know.
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Uh Zubayer is not the first one that uh this has happened to, but he's the most recent one.
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Uh and and he's a really bad dude.
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I mean, he's really really bad dude, and he's a member of uh uh Ansar Al-Sharia, and uh, you know, he's you know, uh you know, he's uh it was it's my understanding that that they knew who he was as far back as 2015.
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So, you know, I mean the guy's been running for a while, but you know, they finally did catch up with him.
39:55
Now, one of the things that I find interesting about all of this is um.
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It's clear to me that and and part of this is just because of there's certain things that I am aware of and know about, uh some of which I can't get into, but it it's clear to me that a lot of these guys, whether it's Maduro or it's this guy, uh Zubayer, um that they know a lot.
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And so capturing these guys alive is pretty important because it gets to who funded these guys, uh, who were they cooperating with in terms of you know whether it was you know foreign officials or maybe even American officials?
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Um how did they get their intelligence?
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How did they know when and where to attack?
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All of those types of things to me are very interesting surrounding both these men, and I suspect that there are others that are on the list of people that they want to capture.
40:55
To me, this is some of the this is clearly the FBI at its best.
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Uh, you know, we have a a you know, certain divisions within the FBI that are you know, a lot of people don't understand why is the FBI a domestic agency have uh satellite offices all around the world.
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This is why.
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So they can catch these guys that have committed crimes against the United States that are in other countries.
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And this is to me the FBI at its best when they're actually bringing in these types of you know criminals alive, because ultimately uh we can question them and we can get information out of them.
41:33
Well, yeah, they they become great sources of uh of uh human.
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I mean, you know, I'd be basically, you know, they're they know that they're they're uh not gonna be able to escape from a prison complex here in the United States, and so you know, they're they're they understand.
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I mean, that their best bet is to uh is to give up you know as much information as they can to make their lives comfortable as comfortable as they as they can get it.
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So um, yeah, I mean, you know, basically they that that you're correct.
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I mean, these these guys are walking treasure trolls of it, uh of uh information.
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And to your larger two the larger part of your question is regarding how did they get the intelligence that you know Ambassador Stevens was there at that uh at that consulate.
42:21
That's that's a very valid question.
42:23
Uh I recall watching a uh it was around the time when the Benghazi hearings were going on, there was an interview that was done.
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I believe it was done on Fox News uh with um the deputy director, I can't remember his first name, his last name is Morel.
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And it was the first time that I had heard anyone ask him the question, uh can't and they asked him this question basically, they said, Can you speak to uh stinger missiles being transferred from the uh Syrian battleground, you know, against ISIS and ending up in Libya, and that was what Chris Stevens was there for.
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So to the large to the and then of course he his his response was uh I'm not at liberty to talk about that.
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I can't confirm or deny that.
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So, you know, that that automatically is raises a red flag for me, but it does it does it does ask two questions, which uh to date, I don't think it was ever really clearly answered, uh, unless you unless you have more information than I.
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One, what what in the hell was Stevens doing there, largely undefended, an ambassador, largely undefended in uh this uh consulate complex.
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And uh two uh to your larger point, how did these terrorists uh you know, and they were very well organized.
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They they attacked and they attacked in military waves.
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I mean, if you if you if you uh study you know the the the tactics they used, they were deaf, they definitely had you know good real-time intelligence on what was going on there.
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They knew the compound was undefended, and they basically went hog wild.
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Well, you know, I I um I want to be careful not to throw too much uh conjecture into this, but what I will tell you is the facts that I know about that are public.
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There was a guy by the name of Mark Turi, who's an American arms dealer and uh the owner of Turi Defense Group Inc.
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Uh that had significant connections to Libya, primarily uh during the 2011 Libyan civil war, um, amid efforts to overthrow uh Muammar Gaddafi.
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And he has since come out and has exposed, um, he's done a couple of interviews, not done a lot, but when his name first came into my um, you know, in into my awareness was uh when the FBI um during the I think it was what I say was during Obama's uh term, they he basically the FBI had come after him and they had indicted him for illegal arms dealing, uh related to Libya, and they had said that they were going to, you know, that basically he needed to turn himself in, that he was going to be arrested.
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And I kid you not, you can look this anybody who's listening to the show can go look this up themselves.
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This is not a conspiracy theory, this is a fact.
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His lawyers came out and said absolutely under no circumstances is he gonna turn himself in, and that if if they do not drop these charges immediately, then Mark Turry is prepared to make a public statement of everything that Hillary Clinton knew.
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And this is after Benghazi, by the way, uh that everything uh Hillary Clinton knew about their operations in Libya and her involvement in illegal arms trades, uh, you know, going through Libya to get to the Syrians.
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All of a sudden, FBI drops their indictment, like within 24 hours.
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This is it's just absolutely just crazy.
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But but so the thing, the reason I bring that up is because there's a lot, there is a conspiracy theory, okay?
46:00
That uh that and and I think his evidence supports it that Hillary Clinton was in basically that they were trying to figure out a way to get arms to Libya.
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I'm sorry, get arms through Libya to um Syria, and it involved it was illegal to sell arms to the Syrian rebels because many of them were tied to various terrorist groups.
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So they had cut so they had hatched a plan to sell uh you know small arms basically under Turi, uh had hatched this plan to basically sell it to Qatar, and then the Qataris would then sell it to the Syrians or give it to the Syrians, and um, and apparently he was cut out of the deal.
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And then Hillary Clinton and her staffers basically took over, and they included heavy armor, uh head heavy armory and things like stinger missiles, which were not part of the original package, and then some of those missiles uh made their way to places like Afghanistan being used against our own troops, and this is all theory, okay.
47:01
Uh, I can't speak to the validity of all of this, but there's a lot of there are a lot of links here that do in fact look like that some of this is true.
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And certainly one thing I will tell you is this uh there is evidence that I know of that I personally saw, uh, and I've spoken about it on multiple occasions, and it is publicly since come out.
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This was classified at the time, but it has come out now, it's been you know exposed that Hillary Clinton, uh, under the Clinton Foundation itself, uh, was making direct payments to a uh to the head spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, um, right before the quote unquote Arab Springs.
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So I mean they were very much involved, and a lot of that, and I can tell you this much, a lot of money flowed through Syria, I mean through Libya.
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Uh you cannot have things happening the way that they happen without Ambassador Stevens having been aware.
47:55
And so the thought by a lot of uh lot of people who have theorized about why all this happened, and you know, why did Hillary Clinton um you know give stand down orders as a confirmed fact?
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There have been multiple uh witnesses uh to that.
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One of uh you know, one of those witnesses, uh a good friend of mine, Nick No, um, you know, was a whistleblower on this, but there were she gave a stand down order when they had troops within distance to stop the attack on the uh you know on our uh on the ambassador and and on a complex the ambassador's complex there in Libya.
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And in fact, we had drones in the air that could have taken these guys out.
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And yet all of that was stopped.
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And so the question becomes why why if if you have to assume, you know, assuming that this was an intentional, uh, we're going to let this guy get killed, and three Americans as well, uh, you know, that were their uh SEAL team and and um exil team members that were basically defending the complex.
48:55
Yeah, if you're gonna allow these guys to get killed, what reason, what purpose would you have in that?
49:02
And and so the the theory is that it was to cover up, you know, what what all who was all involved in this arms trade, illegal arms trading, and uh, you know, all the stuff that he that he knew all about it.
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He was the ambassador, he he basically had all the goods on it.
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The whole whole reason for the fire, they had to burn everything down so they could destroy all the evidence and kill all of those that you know, kill primarily him, uh who was involved and had knowledge of it.
49:30
Yeah, we're talking about I mean you're you're you're you're right.
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I mean, uh you know, clearly, you know, there's been numerous uh uh uh interviews, you know, Tanto Peranto himself has said that you know he was on the radio and he called called in for uh for a uh Spectre gunship, and you know, they said uh we're looking into it.
49:53
I mean, these guys, I mean, people don't understand it.
49:56
You know, the they probably could not have moved.
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Assets in quick enough to have saved Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.
50:05
I mean, they that that came really, really fast.
50:08
But there were drones in the air.
50:10
They could have used drones, but the period of time that elapsed between from when Sean Smith and Ambassador Stevens died until those guys finally got out of it.
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We're talking like almost eight, nine hours.
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And it was there were two waves of attacks.
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Now they could have they could have moved uh uh that heavy convoy in that finally came and rescued them.
50:35
They could have moved that heavy convoy in immediately and and saved um you know uh those those delta fighters that were they were up on top of that roof, you know, the former Delta, they were contractors, but they could have saved those contractors, you know, and and instead um they were basically left to fight up there for hours, and they were calling in for help, you know.
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Um they could have moved assets from Sigonella.
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Uh, you know, I apparently there was one squadron commander that came forward and says, Yeah, my guys are ready to go.
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We'll kick the afterburners on and we'll be there.
51:11
But it it it was some kind of a stand on order given.
51:16
Uh, you know, in the end, one of the interviews that I watched, um uh Conto Peranto says that um that uh the State Department actually made the call uh to uh to not help those guys to not come in and rescue those guys.
51:33
Well, that and and the State Department, of course, was run by the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the time.
51:37
Yeah, that's right.
51:38
That's right.
51:39
That makes that that all of it adds up.
51:41
And of course, her you know, famous saying, and what matter does it you know, does it have now?
51:46
Well, here's the thing there their capture of this guy alive.
51:50
I'm very curious as to what kind of information they're gonna get out of him.
51:55
Ah, I see.
51:56
I see where you're going with this.
51:58
See, I I believe that I believe that there is a concerted effort by the Trump administration to go after criminal foreign criminals who have been you know committing crimes against the United States with the intent of capturing them alive so they can get intelligence to find out who these people were working with within the United States.
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I believe that's what's going on here.
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Well, you know, I mean, to your point, there is no statute of limitations on murder.
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Yep, nor is there on nor is there on treason.
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That's that is correct.
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Yeah.
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And so, you know, if they're if they're pulling in these people and and uh connecting the dots, uh more power to them.
52:35
I mean, go go go after them.
52:36
You know, I mean, I I be began to immediately lose hope when they appointed Trey Gowdy to be the House Select Committee uh uh leader on Benghazi.
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Uh I thought I thought it was I thought it was poorly done.
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I didn't think they really asked hard questions.
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And when Hillary Clinton came up there and she she did her hysterics and started yelling, you know, where there was some guys that planned it or where there was some guys who were just wandering around and decided what difference does it make.
53:04
Well, the difference is um you abandon uh U.S.
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citizens to die.
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I mean, that's that's that's really what it comes right down to.
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I mean, you know, we we even back then we were we uh we were and we are even more so the preeminent fighting uh military, especially our special forces.
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And um, you know, if you if you listen to the account of what these guys went through, it's a miracle any of them survived.
53:34
But you know, I mean uh uh they did, and and uh I'm I'm hoping that you're correct that there's gonna be accountability.
53:43
Yeah, there has to be.
53:45
Yep.
53:46
We we've got to see accountability and we need to catch and find out who all's been playing with who look there's like I said, there's so much more that I know I can't even talk about.
53:54
Yeah uh monies that flowed through various organizations into you know the Clinton Foundation and the and the origins of of where those monies came from.
54:02
Something that the FBI knows, and uh because they they had the evidence and yet they did nothing.
54:07
Um there is a uh I I applaud uh director uh Patel and and what he's done to change the FBI's focus and actually put it on truly uh making America a safer place and going after the real criminals.
54:24
Um but uh and and to your point with regards to Congress, uh I don't believe that Congress really has any um any effect on anything when it comes to all these hearings.
54:36
Uh that that became obvious to me after the Benghazi hearings.
54:39
And oh, absolutely.
54:40
I mean, and Trey Gout is concluding statement where basically he said um based upon all of the facts that we've gathered, you know, the concluding statement is nobody's responsible.
54:49
Yeah, at the what listen, at the end of the day, you know, when these guys have hearings, it I believe that it's it's a hundred percent uh it's kabuki theater designed to you know give attention so that they can get elected the next election.
55:02
I they know yeah, they know they have no power to actually do anything.
55:07
So it is up to the president of the United States.
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It is up to uh his leadership, and that includes uh the director of the FBI, uh the uh the attorney general to ensure that they go after these criminals and also the Secretary of War uh to ensure that they go after these people uh you know in foreign countries that are terrorists or that are um you know that are hardened you know criminals, and I think they're doing things the right way.
55:29
If you notice, they're not bringing these people to Guantanamo, they're bringing them to justice in American courts, which is the way I think it should be done, uh, because these people need to be held accountable and on under federal statutes, uh they can get the death penalty, and I think they should.
55:45
But maybe to keep maybe to keep death penalty off the table, maybe they need to start singing like birds and telling us who is involved.
55:54
Yeah, I mean, you know, I I deployed with a tier one asset.
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I was I was I was deployed with embedded with uh special operations task force 81 was around along the Iranian Afghanistan border, and you know, and uh I can tell you right now, when these guys, you know, when these guys play their instruments, you know, uh they they're they're playing for keeps.
56:15
I mean, these guys, these guys are like these guys don't mess around, they're they're top of the line.
56:21
And anybody that look watched, you've even just watched the movie, but Fox News did a really good kick's pose on it.
56:29
Um it it smells of a deep state operation.
56:33
The whole Benghazi thing, the way it went bad.
56:36
Absolutely.
56:37
Yeah, no, I I agree with you.
56:38
Unfortunately, we're we're just about out of time.
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But uh Jack, I I thank you again for you know, come on on the show.
56:44
Uh you're I always enjoy having you on here for your analysis.
56:48
Um where can people follow you?
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Where can they uh find out more about what you're investigating what you're talking about?
56:54
Uh you can find me on X.
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Uh my I'm I'm MSG underscore Jack underscore donor, or you can find us on our group's work is on Telegram.
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It's the Connell Rad group.
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We're the only ones on on Telegram, C O N E L R A D group.
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If you got any questions, shoot me any message.
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Awesome.
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Well, folks, as we approach uh you know our our uh our final hour here and and we are are you know closing things up for today.
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I want to thank everybody involved for uh being on the show today, and I want to thank you, the listener for staying involved and staying engaged.
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