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S4 E22 Religious Crimes · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: And T.
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  Speaker 2: And M and back them up back and put them
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  Speaker 2: back and sat up them. Yeah, yeah, yeah USI Hi everybody,
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: Hi guys. A little false advertising, I think in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning there for the opening. We've got a special guest tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little Lama is here from the Hey Hose Show.
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  Speaker 2: She's filling in for Terry. Terry has been having a
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  Speaker 2: time with what she's doing and will be for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the weekend. So I said, you focus on
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  Speaker 2: the act and I will force somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And that person is me.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry. It was either you or my dad,
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  Speaker 2: and you were more of a sure thing than my dad.
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  Speaker 1: I should work on that thing called saying no. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very happy, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and I know that Alama's going to be going
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  Speaker 2: through Terry's case tonight. And when I sent it to her,
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  Speaker 2: she was like, of course, you gave me the case
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  Speaker 2: with all the names, and I was like, yeah, my bad.
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  Speaker 2: So but it's called Grace and you just saw the
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  Speaker 2: script today, so it's fine. Everything will be good.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, for the first time, it'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me? I write these things like
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  Speaker 2: forty eight hours ahead of time, and it's like I'm
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  Speaker 2: reading it for the first time, you know, even though
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  Speaker 2: I've looked into it. But tonight we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking about religious crimes. Oddly enough, both when when Terry
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  Speaker 2: and I both chose crimes, we went cult accidentally. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I did mine on purpose. I don't know if Terry
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  Speaker 2: ended up doing kind of call stuff on purpose, but
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  Speaker 2: we only went cult with this one. This is cult heavy, so.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, how are you doing? What you've been up to?
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  Speaker 1: What have I been up to? Not really a whole lot,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of behind the scenes work. I think the
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  Speaker 1: most exciting thing I've done this week is finished the
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  Speaker 1: show Chaos on Netflix, which just came out, and it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Typally four days to watch it all. It's with Jeff Goldbloom,
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  Speaker 1: so it can't.
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  Speaker 2: Be that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he plays he plays Zeus, so it's amazing, incredible.
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  Speaker 2: It is incredible. The the baseball park here is undergoing
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  Speaker 2: a name change because they're also doing a venue change
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  Speaker 2: because they're building a new park. And they released the
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  Speaker 2: name yesterday and it's CarMax Park because of course it is.
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  Speaker 2: And somebody, uh, an alumni friend of mine from my college.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's pretty popular around here as an artist, and
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  Speaker 2: he had he had written like, if there aren't ginormous
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  Speaker 2: swinging doors when I enter, I'll be disappointed. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know, the marketing guys all they were
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  Speaker 2: they were too busy thinking about if they could, and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't think about if they should. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: if I don't get driven in with a jeep, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be really unhappy.
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  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park my favorite Jurassic It's so good it all
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: All of it's so good. It's it's I mean that
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  Speaker 2: that movie is something else from.
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  Speaker 1: Them and dinosaurs. I mean.
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  Speaker 2: On his side, like I want to paint him like
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  Speaker 2: one of my French ladies. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that it came when they re released it
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  Speaker 1: in three D. We went and saw it. A sweaty
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom in three D is not as magical as
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  Speaker 1: it sounds, type of the way.
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  Speaker 2: Just at least it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Four D, that's true. But it was awesome in three D.
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  Speaker 1: It was very cool.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it, especially if it be in Spielberg. You
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  Speaker 2: know he's gonna do it right, So I do it writer,
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  Speaker 2: or don't do it at all? Well, cool, I Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten my kids into watching the Paralympics, which has
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  Speaker 2: been fun. We were watching the Olympics, but I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you guys really got to see the Paralympics because the
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  Speaker 2: amount that they overcome to do these amazing things is inspiring.
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  Speaker 2: And h my son and I got to watch the
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  Speaker 2: archery competition with Stutsman and this is he's a US
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  Speaker 2: he's an archer, and he has no arms, he got
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  Speaker 2: legs and he fires a compound bow better than anybody
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And he was ranked nineteenth in it, and he he
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  Speaker 2: beat out the second ranked and first ranked Chinese archers
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  Speaker 2: to win gold. And you know, these were folks that
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  Speaker 2: had arms. And like, he's got this strap that he
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  Speaker 2: flings forward and then he hooks the compound bow into it,
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  Speaker 2: pulls it back games and then he like just taps
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  Speaker 2: it with his chin and then and it's just phenomenal
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  Speaker 2: cool it. It was awesome too because at the very
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  Speaker 2: first match, the judge turned to the person he was
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  Speaker 2: up against and looked and gave him a thumbs up,
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  Speaker 2: asking him if he's okay, and that guy gave him
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  Speaker 2: a thumbs up. He looked at Stutsman gave him thumbs
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  Speaker 2: up and Stutsman gave him a big toe up, and
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  Speaker 2: it was the best thing I've ever seen. It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: He like tips his hat with his foot to be
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  Speaker 2: it's so good. I was so happy. It was such
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  Speaker 2: a great thing. If anybody gets a chance, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think if anybody gets a chance to watch the replay
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  Speaker 2: of that, or just go on YouTube and watch like
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  Speaker 2: the combination of clips from Stutsman, He's phenomenal. I'm sad
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  Speaker 2: because they said he was retiring, but just really impressive,
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  Speaker 2: really impressive hiring. Why I know, Well he went out
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  Speaker 2: on top.
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  Speaker 1: I guess right, true, and it's so impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to watch a little gold ball tonight
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  Speaker 2: and blind soccer, which is I don't understand how Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know that was my face, but it's it's impressive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they have like it's like a goal ball.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen goldball before? No, So they're like
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  Speaker 2: they're wearing blindfolds and they're well, they're wearing tape over
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  Speaker 2: their eyes and then they have blacked out like ski
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  Speaker 2: goggles on and it's like a small like badminton sized
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  Speaker 2: court and there's three guys on from each team in
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  Speaker 2: front of a goal, and then they take turns going
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  Speaker 2: back and forth, like rolling the ball trying to get
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  Speaker 2: it into the goal, and you have to block it.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing the bell of the ball, the bell that's in
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  Speaker 2: the ball, it's yeah. And so it's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: same thing with the blind soccer where they're taped over
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  Speaker 2: and they have their ski goggles on, they're blacked out,
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  Speaker 2: and they're hearing like a couple of rattles that are
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  Speaker 2: in the ball and they've got to track that and
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  Speaker 2: dribble it and get it to where they need to
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  Speaker 2: and the only people who can see anything are the goalies,
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  Speaker 2: and it's up to the goalies to communicate with the teams. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just it was just astounding. There's no way
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  Speaker 2: I'd be terrible.
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  Speaker 1: At that, skilled at anything. That's at all, not skilled
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  Speaker 1: at anything.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason I mascotted for so long.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's very cool that you're watching it with
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  Speaker 1: your kids too, Like that's really awesome.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when they're not staring at a tablet or something,
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  Speaker 2: they'll watch with me. So they're like, oh Dad, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't listen. I don't watch football. Every week. I
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  Speaker 2: don't watch soccer baseball all the time, just this once
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  Speaker 2: every two years. Give it to me.
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  Speaker 1: Wuease, right, I'm glad. We don't be glad I don't
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  Speaker 1: watch it. Yeah, that's amazing, not my thang.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, that's okay. So Betty Ross says blind soccer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop complaining about all the things I think
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  Speaker 2: I can't do. That's honestly, watching this is very inspiring
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  Speaker 2: and impressive and awesome. And I know that they're there
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  Speaker 2: to compete, but they really are inspiration. And I hope
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  Speaker 2: they know that. You know, it's it's it's and and
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  Speaker 2: and not in like a corny way, in a legitimately
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  Speaker 2: inspirational way. Yeah, yep, much unlike some of the things
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to cover in stupid news before we
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  Speaker 2: get into our cases. Are you ready?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? I am ready, face paint job.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think I don't watch the watch the
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  Speaker 2: news because we see this do every day. I mean
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  Speaker 2: every day. I think this kid taps out on the
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  Speaker 2: flora people wanted to be It's.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, dude, you get the best barrels ever, dude,
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  Speaker 1: just like I'm out here.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, what's what's the best kind of fireworks to buy?
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you like to know? Weather boy, where are your parents?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: That poor weatherman weather He'll never get over it. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: will ever let him live it down, not once, not ever. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So uh I you you saw me looking these up?
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  Speaker 2: And my response was what the uh? And and this
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  Speaker 2: is why because the article title is Iceland encourages locals
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  Speaker 2: to throw baby puffins off cliffs? What uh? Huh h
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  Speaker 2: uh so for residents of vest Nation, because it's Iceland. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: An island located just off the southern coast of Iceland.
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  Speaker 2: Puff puffling season is a special time of year sanctioned
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  Speaker 2: by local officials. The people of the Iceland flock to
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  Speaker 2: the The people of the island. People of the Iceland
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  Speaker 2: block to the cliff sides with baby puffins in hand,
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  Speaker 2: eager to throw them over the side of it. Once
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  Speaker 2: baby puffins, called pufflings, reach maturity, they fly from their
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  Speaker 2: colony and spend several years at sea before eventually returning
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  Speaker 2: to land to breed. Residing in cliff side nests, the
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  Speaker 2: pufflings use the light of the moon to guide them
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  Speaker 2: out to the ocean. However, due to increased building development
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  Speaker 2: on the island's coastlines. Some of the baby Puffins get
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  Speaker 2: lost and head the wrong way, confusing human made lights
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  Speaker 2: with moonlight. It is normal to find baby Puffins scattered
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  Speaker 2: across town, hiding in crevices and corners, and this is
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  Speaker 2: when puffling patrol is put to work. Residents old and
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  Speaker 2: young head out into the night, armed with gloved hands
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  Speaker 2: holding flashlights and cardboard boxes poked with holes, ready to
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  Speaker 2: snatch up any baby Puffins that they come across. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: it's likely that most will catch up to ten a night,
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  Speaker 2: and there are two sisters that claim that they usually
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  Speaker 2: catch over one hundred and twenty five baby Puffins a season.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So the reason why that this is crucial to their
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  Speaker 2: survival is basically, if you have one failed generation after
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  Speaker 2: another after another, obviously the population is through puffin's mate
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  Speaker 2: for life, incubating one singular egg per season, with no
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  Speaker 2: guarantee of laying each year beyond that. So it's really
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  Speaker 2: generations of Iceland villagers have tossed baby puffins for distance.
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  Speaker 2: They're encouraged. I mean, this is anybody who's as young
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  Speaker 2: as four, as old as ninety encouraged. Eight scientists in
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  Speaker 2: this data, so they get the puffin. They usually the
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  Speaker 2: log the weight of the baby puffin on a dedicated website,
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  Speaker 2: and then you can see people just packed on the
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  Speaker 2: cliff sides, lined up shoulder to shoulder, preparing their pufflings
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  Speaker 2: for their first big journey. So it's just.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this though, when I first read the article,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, the title, what huh.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Are we in a Robert Kennedy junior situation? Again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just kidding call that Hey Ho Show.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say the Hey Ho Show picked
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  Speaker 2: up on that, I think before Late Night did.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you know, jacket that says puffling Patrol.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wouldn't that be great. It's got to
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  Speaker 2: be like a letterman, like a letterman's jacket, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but huff puffling Patrol is PP. So that I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we can find another We're.
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  Speaker 1: Not mature enough for that. Somebody write that in March
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  Speaker 1: ideas puff and Patrol.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this, no, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I was just saying, that's that's just very sweet. And
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  Speaker 1: now when they throw them over the cliff like they're
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  Speaker 1: surviving that right, like.
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  Speaker 2: Is that yeah? Yeah? I don't think that the scientists
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  Speaker 2: would encourage that without them being able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But what really makes me sad and I think this
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  Speaker 2: goes for anywhere. I mean, light pollution is terrible, but
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they're confused by man made light versus
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  Speaker 2: the moon. Plus it's adorable that they follow moonlight to
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  Speaker 2: get out to the water. Just so cute.
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  Speaker 1: It is adorable. What is.
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  Speaker 2: I think you do? Just look like, well, you're looking
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  Speaker 2: that up? Oh yeah, you look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, they're cute.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hm. You know, scientists tend to do things where
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: there are scientists where I'm like, you're definitely making a difference,
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  Speaker 2: and then there are some that are like, are you
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  Speaker 2: really using your brain cells for good? And this is
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  Speaker 2: one of those. Engineers have created a new type of
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  Speaker 2: robot that places living fung guy behind the controls because
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that's what we need, living fung guy behind controls of
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  Speaker 2: a robot.
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  Speaker 1: Is this some left behind stuff? Because that's not good?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's sure as hell reminds me of like that fun
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  Speaker 2: guy in the Mario Brothers movie with John Laguiziano. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: And so they they're calling it a bio hybrid robot
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  Speaker 2: that uses electric electrical signals from an edible type of
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  Speaker 2: mushroom called a king trumpet. That's my nickname in college.
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  Speaker 2: No uh, in order to move around and sense its environment.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see the so a non Mishra. Mishra, a research
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  Speaker 2: associate and Organic Robot X lab at Cornell, said, living
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  Speaker 2: systems respond to touch, they respond to light, they respond heat,
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  Speaker 2: they respond to even some unknowns like signals. That's why
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  Speaker 2: we think, Okay, if you wanted to build future robots,
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  Speaker 2: how can they work in an unexpected environment? We can
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  Speaker 2: leverage these living systems and any unknown input comes in
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  Speaker 2: the robot will respond to that. So different inputs, such
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  Speaker 2: as ultraviolet light resulted in different outcomes for the way
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  Speaker 2: the robot moved. A video of one of the mushroom
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  Speaker 2: controlled robots shows it moving slowly across the surface by
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  Speaker 2: pumping its robotic legs. Another biohybrid robot uses a wield
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  Speaker 2: system in order to move around the robotic legs. Mushroom
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  Speaker 2: is very jealous of the wield system. Mushroom, So we've
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  Speaker 2: got ourselves a mad mac situation going on. That's not
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  Speaker 2: in this article at all.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody else like I think this is a horrible idea.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's terrible, yeah, captain said, what could go wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Correct everything? It says. By growing my celium into the
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  Speaker 2: electronics of a robot, we were able to allow the
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  Speaker 2: biohybrid machine to sense and respond to the environment. The
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  Speaker 2: potential for future robots could be to send soil chemistry
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  Speaker 2: and row crops and decide when to add more fertilizer,
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  Speaker 2: for example, perhaps mitigating downstream effects of agriculture like harmful
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  Speaker 2: algal blooms. I think that that's just a that's a
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  Speaker 2: lame excuse for saying I wanted to put a mushroom
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  Speaker 2: in a robot. But apparently they've also done previous experiments
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  Speaker 2: where they've put an artificial worm brain inside of a
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  Speaker 2: lego robot, which was able to recreate the creature's movements
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  Speaker 2: and intentions. What wow. First off, how do the scientists
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  Speaker 2: know what a worm brain's intentions are? I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like though this fungui and worms are smarter
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  Speaker 1: than like half the peoplet like, there's taken our jobs,
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  Speaker 1: like really and fun about you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, Well, I'll tell you what. Speaking of jobs nice
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  Speaker 2: helps me with the segwe to the last article, UH
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  Speaker 2: workers in Japan cannot quit their jobs, and they hire
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  Speaker 2: resignation experts to help. Okay, so this is something that
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  Speaker 2: I knew a little bit about about the culture of
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  Speaker 2: the professional life and working in Japan. However, this is insane.
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  Speaker 2: So Yuki Wantanabi Watanabi used to spend twelve hours every
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  Speaker 2: day toiling away in an office, and that's considered a
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  Speaker 2: short day. Wow, a typical nine to nine work days.
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  Speaker 2: The bare minimum the latest I would leave the office
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  Speaker 2: would be eleven pm, said the twenty four year old.
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  Speaker 2: So intense were the demands that that Yuki, who used
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  Speaker 2: an alias to speak to CNNA for fear of jeopardizing
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  Speaker 2: future job prospects, began to develop health problems. She had
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: shaky legs and stomach issues. She knew she had to quit,
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  Speaker 2: but there was one thing in the way. Japan's notoriously
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  Speaker 2: top down work culture. Asking to leave work on time
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  Speaker 2: or taking some time off is tricky enough, but even
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  Speaker 2: trickier is tendering a resignation, which can be seen as
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate form of disrespect. In the world's fourth biggest economy,
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  Speaker 2: where workers traditionally stick with one employer for decades, if
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  Speaker 2: not for a lifetime. In the most extreme cases, grumpy
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  Speaker 2: bosses rip up resignation letters and harass employees to force
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  Speaker 2: them to stay. She found a way to end the impasse.
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  Speaker 2: She turned to Memori, which is a resignation agency that
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  Speaker 2: helps timid employees leave their intimidating bosses for the price
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  Speaker 2: of a quote fancy dinner. Many Japanese workers hire these
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  Speaker 2: proxy firms to help them resign stress free. The industry
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  Speaker 2: existed before COVID, but it's popularity grew after the pandemic
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  Speaker 2: after years of working from home pushed even some of
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  Speaker 2: Japan's most loyal workers to reflect upon their careers. There
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  Speaker 2: is no official count on the number of resignation agencies
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  Speaker 2: that have sprung up across the country, but those running
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  Speaker 2: them can testify to the surge in demand. It's just terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine having to work in that fashion.
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  Speaker 1: No, you have no time for anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Japan and has long had an overwork culture,
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  Speaker 2: and employees across various sectors they all say that there's
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  Speaker 2: punishing hours, high pressure from supervisors reference to the company.
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  Speaker 2: Those employers are widely known as black firms, and the
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  Speaker 2: situation was so pressing that the government had begun publishing
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  Speaker 2: a list of unethical employers to hamper their ability to
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  Speaker 2: hire and warn job seekers of the dangers of working
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  Speaker 2: with them. It's just terrible for their psych it's horrible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and the stress has proven fatal for decades, and it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a phenomenon that they've called karoshi, which is death
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  Speaker 2: by overwork. And if you have to put in, if
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  Speaker 2: you have to create a word, you got issues. Yeah, right,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: let's see last bit here. A thirty one year old
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: political reporter from national broadcaster NHK died in twenty seventeen
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: after suffering heart failure caused by spending long hours on
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the job. She worked one hundred and fifty nine hours
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of overtime in the month before her death. Five years later,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: a yeah, twenty six year old doctor from a hospital
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: in Kobe died by suicide after working more than two
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: hundred hours of overtime in a single month.
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  Speaker 1: How is that even? Wow? You know there is that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: many left hover hours.
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  Speaker 2: It's just I can't imagine a doctor at the end
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  Speaker 2: like I catch I'll catch that doctor at the beginning
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: of the month. Don't give me an appointment at the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: end of the month. There's no way. That's just wild.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, some things definitely need to change the concept
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of I know that the concept of staying with the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: company is pleasant for decades and decades, but the reality
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: is that's not how it is anymore, and unfortunately it's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: going to take them a little while to catch up.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So in two hundred hours of overtime, like, that's.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: That's wild, right, And I don't know what their overtime
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: policies are like. Usually over time is like time and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a half or something like that. But I doubt it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I doubt it. I doubt it. In fact, I bet
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you those are full time jobs that don't give you overtime.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: That's just them working over the normal.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Amount of right, they're probably salary workers getting paid next
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to nothing and having to work that much. Well, right,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that's wild.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: You know. Ending on a positive note, but before we
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  Speaker 2: get into our cases, let's talk a little bit about
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: what we're drinking. Oh, would you like to do the honors?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I shall so tonight, I'm drinking the remainder of my
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: box of Franzia mescato from Hey Ho Show on Friday,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: So Hup, Lenny Left, and my favorite part of the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: box is that it says fun with friends, So that's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: tonight fun with frands.
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  Speaker 2: You told me that that, right, you told me that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: No Lady and Gray asked how long is their normal day?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Typically twelve hours nine to nine is typically their day.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So I loved it when you told me that, because
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: that's perfect. Fun with friends is great for a cult episode.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know about that. I know what mine's about.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Well, my my case is based in Japan, and I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: was like, well, this is gonna be fun. I like
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: some things. I lived there for a while. In fact,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: this came from Tokyo. I'm wearing this this this kimono
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ish robe. It's really more of a robe than a kimono.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And it's got a dragon on the back, which makes
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: me feel like the villain from Silence of the Lambs
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: or Red Dragon that except it's not tattooed on me.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But I got a couple of things from from Japan.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: What I'm drinking is Supporo premium black beer. I think
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's a dark logger mostly, but it's definitely it's a
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Japanese beer. Let's see, it's brewd that's funny. It's brud
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: in Vietnam. It's a Japanese beer, though it's brood brewd
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: in Vietnam. It's imported and distributed from Terrytown, New York.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But it's Japanese.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: La La checks out, checks out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: But I also got this. I don't know. Have you
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ever seen these bottles, the Ramoon bottles?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: No?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: No, So this is a drink that I used to
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: drink in uh Okay now all the time. And it's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like basically a carbonated like soft drink of sorts. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: what's really cool is in the top instead of a cap,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it has a marble that's keeping the carbonation in. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: then in order to open it, they give you this cap,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: and this cap pops the marble in. Let's see if
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I can do it without Let's see if I can
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: do it without breaking anything. Nope, Nope, you're gonna have
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to use my thumb and leverage. Oh there it is.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So then the marble goes down to the bottom here
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and then it opens everything up.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So cool. So it's like what like a or something.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a sprite of sorts. Yeah, it's called Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: it's you know, sometimes you should worry if it's as
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: original flavor. But I wasn't about to buy the strawberry one,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: so uh.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It's probably delicious, probably, And then the last thing I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: got did you get it from? Oh?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was I mean no, you can get this
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: from a grocery store, usually in the Asian foods atysle.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Okay am I like the strawberry one or the regular one?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a couple. That was the only two
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that were there. And then the last thing I got
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: was this lovely thing of was sabi peas. I love
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: was sabbi peas.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So much. I think it's well known that I probably don't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It's just best to assume that I don't. Are they spicy, I.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Mean as spicy as wassabi is. So anyways, I am
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: fully decked out and put together and staying on brand,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and thank you so much, just to let everybody know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: also staying on brand. As a warning, this episode does
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: or possibly could contain graphic content. Adult language might not
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: be suitable for all listeners, so be careful with the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: little ones if you're getting play on the speaker system.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: But until then, you know, feel free, have fun, listen, enjoy,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and then you know, I'm sure there's some trigger warnings
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: in here somewhere along the webs.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: We'll let Lama start us off.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm covering Terry's case tonight, which is called
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a daffo Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo, the Rise and Fall
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  Speaker 1: of an Narco Satanist cult leader. Before I start this,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I want to give a heads up that I do
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  Speaker 1: not speak Spanish. Okay, so I'm going to mispronounce a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: lot of things. We're just in this together, you guys,
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  Speaker 1: so prepare yourselves.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I know, I am.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: It'll be great, It'll be great, It'll be fine, all right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Adolfo DeJesus Constanzo was a Cuban American serial killer, drug dealer,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and cult leader whose reign of terror gripped Mexico in
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties. Leading a notorious drug trafficking and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a cult gang in Mana Morros and Tamuluipas Tamalipus, Mexico,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Constanzo became infamous for his brutal, ritualistic killings, dubbed the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Narco Satanist or Los Narco Sentinko Centina. See you, guys,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm doing my best Narcos setanios because by the media,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: we're gone with Narco Satanist guys, all right, and not
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: even gonna Tryanists.
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  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: We're going with Narco Satanists, okay. Constanzo and his father
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: followers practice a twisted form of Palo Maombi, a religion
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: involving human and animal sacrifices. His cult, which included both
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: men and women, operated with impunity for years, believing that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: their horrific rituals granted them supernatural protection and power. This
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: article delves into the life of Adolpho Constanzo, his rise
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: to power, and the brutal crimes that eventually led to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: his downfall. So we're going into some ritualistic killings, you guys,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: so be prepared. This is not a fun time.
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  Speaker 2: One. This is not a fun time.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: No. This is this gun be dark so. Adolpho Constanzo
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  Speaker 1: was born on November first, nineteen sixty two, in Miami, Florida,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to Delia Aurora Gonzalez, a Cuban immigrant. His mother, Delia,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was just fifteen year old fifteen years old when she
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: gave birth to Udolpho, the first of three children she
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: would have with different fathers. Constanzo's early life was marked
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: by a series of moves and tumultuous relationships. After the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: death of her first husband, Delia relocated to San Juan,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, where she remarried.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, like, one man's enough.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Multiple having multiple baby daddies, not judging her, that's a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: lot to go through it I don't want to have
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I have won. It is a lot to go through. Yeah, dausting.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know like what was going on in that
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: obviously in this story, but all I know is that
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: if I have to pull out the red yarn to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: figure out relationships, I might not want to do it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Oh Man. So, despite being baptized as a Catholic in
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: serving as an altar boy, Constanzo was introduced to other
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: spiritual practices early on. His mother, who had a deep
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: interest in the occult, took him on trips to Haiti,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: where he was exposed to voodoo rituals. This early exposure
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to the supernatural laid the foundation for what would become
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Constanzo's obsession with occult practices. In nineteen seventy two, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: family returned to Miami, where Constanzo's stepfather soon passed away,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: leaving them with a modest inheritance. As a teenager, Constanzo
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: was apprenticed to a local sorcerer apprentice where he apprenticed
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: okay to a local sorcerer where he began practicing Palo
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Mio b a religion that combines elements of African spirituality
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: with Catholicism and involves the use of animal sacrifices. Constanzo's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: involvement in the occult deepened, and his mother, now remarried
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to a man involved in both paleomaomi and drug dealing,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: encouraged his pursuits. The family's criminal activities escalated, with both
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Constanzo and his mother being arrested multiple times for theft, vandalism,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and shoplifting.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like they're catholicing wrong.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think the family that crimes together stays together. I don't,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Things are not.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: No, no, they're not not at all.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: So despite his troubled upbringing, Constanzo managed to graduate from
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: high school, though he was expelled from a prep school.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: His early years were a precursor to the life of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: crime and violence that he would later embrace. Sorry, y'all,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't my note of feet in the background as a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: young adult, or we can say hi as a young
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: adult Adolpho Constanzo moved to Mexico City, where he quickly
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: ingratiated himself with the cities elite. He met and recruited
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: men who had become his loyal followers, including Martin Quintana,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Jorge Montiez, and Omar Aria. Together, they established a lucrative
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: business offering spiritual services, which included casting spells to bring
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: good luck. These rituals often involved the sacrifice of animals
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: such as chickens, goats, snakes, and even more exotic creatures
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like zebras and lion cubs.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: That they got from the Tiger King.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: That they got from the Tiger King?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Did he let in the Do you think you think
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the whole time that they were doing this, they were
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: just like Jesus loves.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: A little too tren. I mean, it was his part
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of his name.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That that is, that's fair.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Like where they get the zebras in the line comes from?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's a great It's a really good question. I don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: know if I want to know, I really don't.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, where was i? Constanzo's client base was primarily
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: composed of wealthy drug dealers and hitmen who were drawn
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to the violence and spectacle of his rituals. His reputation
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: as a powerful sorcerer grew, and he attracted the attention
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: of corrupt policemen and influential members of Mexico's drug cartels.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: The Golf Cartel, one of the most powerful criminal organizations
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in the region, was rumored to be associated with Constanzo's cult.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: As his power and influence grew, Constanzo's rituals became more sinister.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: He began rating graveyards for human bones to use in
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: his ni Ganga, a ceremonial cauldron believed to hold spiritual power. However,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: bones from the dead were not enough for Constanzo and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: as followers. They believed that their rituals would be more
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: potent if they used the spirits of the living, leading
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: them to commit a series of brutal murders. The bodies
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: of their victims, often mutilated beyond recognition, were found scattered
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: around Mexico City. The cults thirst for power and protection
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: escalated to a point where Constanzo decided that they needed
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the brain of an American student to achieve their goals.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: What you guys.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Earlier, you said, sorcerer, and all I could think of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: was resputant from Anastasia the cartoon, Yes, and then him
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the little what was the bats name or not? Yeah,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: what was the bats name? I can't remember what his
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: name was, but he was the one who was like
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I give him ah and and the kicker, sir. That's
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: all of that is really right. I'm sure there's some
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: way to look it up.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, Resbue, that's a different story for different.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Bartalk was that Bartalk?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I think I only saw Anastasia a few times when
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I was younger.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember that one line it like lives
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: rent free in my head. Mmmm.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's go into these rituals because this
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: is fun, all right. So the rituals conducted by Adolfo
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Constanzo and his followers were deeply rooted in a perverse
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: interpretation of Pallo Maombi, an Afro Cuban religion that involves
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: communication with spirit through the use of sacred objects, including
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: an inganga or a cauldron. Traditionally, the naganga contains a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: mixture of sticks, soil, bones, and other items believed to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: have spiritual significance. In Constanzo's twisted version, however, these objects
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: were replaced or supplemented with human remains, which he believed
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: would grant him, in his call, immense power. The rituals
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: performed at Rancho Santa Elena were gruesome and barbaric. The
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: cult believed that by sacrificing humans, they could appease the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: spirits and gain protection from law enforcement and rival drug cartels.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: The more significant the sacrifice, the greater the preceived power,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: and Stanzo convinced his followers that these rituals were essential
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: for their survival and success in the dangerous world of
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: drug trafficking.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Or just don't traffic drugs, right, or just not all around?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I mean the.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Other problem is perceived power, not power. Perceived power right,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: ah geez.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I mean I no spoilers, but I don't think this
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: ends well for them. No, Apparently it wasn't working. So
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: victims were often tortured before they being killed. Their body
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: parts used in the ganga, and the resulting concoction was
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: sometimes consumed by the cult members who believed it would
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: make them invincible. The bodies were dismembered and buried around
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the ranch, which eventually became a mass grave for the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: cult's victims. The level of brutality exhibited by the cult
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: was unparalleled and it instilled fear not only in their enemies,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: but also within the community at large. I bet so
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: we have the influence of Palo Maombi and Santa Ria.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So to understand the mindset of Adolpho Costanzo and as followers,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it is essential to explore the religious and cultural background
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that influenced their beliefs and practices. Palo Miombi, like Santa Ria,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: is a syncretic religion that blends elements of African spirituality
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: with Catholicism. Both religions originated among enslaved Africans who are
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: brought to the Caribbean and Latin America during the Transatlantic
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: slave trade. These enslaved individuals perceived their spiritual traditions by
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: merging them with the Christian practices of their colonizers. Santa
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Ria is perhaps the more well known of the two religions.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: There's a song with a focus on what Kyria, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: we name the song that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Santa Ria is perhaps the more well known of
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the two religions, with a focus on worshiping deities known
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: as arishas, who are associated with Catholic saints. Devotees of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Santa Ria often perform rituals that include offering a food
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and the sacrifice of animals such as chickens or goats.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: These practices are meant to honor the Arishas and seek
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: their guidance or protection. Payomiombi, on the other hand, is
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: considered a darker and more esoteric religion and involves the
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: use of a nagangae, which is believed to house powerful
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: spirits that can be invoked for various purposes, including protection, healing,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and cursing enemies. Then naganga is often filled with items
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of spiritual significance, such as sticks, earth, and bones, which
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: are believed to connect the practitioner with the spirit world.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many times I'm going to say that
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: word tonight, ganga, just for.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Those of you who don't know. It's spelled in a
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: way that never should be. I'm sure it makes more
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: sense in like a different like you know, but it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: n g a n g a, so it's not in gonga,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: is it doesn't It doesn't roll off the tug.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: No, no, it doesn't. And it took me like ten
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: minutes to learn how to say it right, and I'm
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: only getting it right every now and then, what an
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: interesting word? It is an interesting I learned new things
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: every day. So while Payomacombe is a legitimate religion practiced
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: by many, has been stigmatized due to the actions of
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: individuals like constant Constanzo Constanzo who perverted its teachings for
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: their own game. Constanzo's rituals were a grotesque distortion of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the religion, focusing on violence and the use of human remains,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: which is not representative of the traditional practices of Payomaomi.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Sara Aldrete's involvement in Constanzo's cult is one of the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: most intriguing aspects of the case. Born in nineteen sixty
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: four in Monta, Moros, Timola PIPA's Mexico, aldretey appeared to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: lead a double life. On one hand, she was a
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: model student, excelling academically and participating as a cheerleader at
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Texas Southmost College in Brownsville, Texas. On the other hand,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: she was deeply fascinated by the occult and quickly became
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: entangled in the world of drug trafficking through her connections
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: with the Hernandez family. So quite the double life there
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: for her, Aldrete was introduced to Adolfo Constanzo through her
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: relationship with Sarafin Seraphine Hernandez Garcia and his uncle Elio
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Hernandez Riviera. Drawn to the power and mystique that Constanzo exuded,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Aldurite became his most devoted follower and was elevated to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: a position of high priestess within the cult. Her intelligence
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and charisma made her a valuable asset a Constanzo, who
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: relied on her to help manage the cult in its activities.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: As La Mandria, Aldreite was responsible for overseeing the cult's operations,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: especially when Constanzo was away on drug runs or other businesses.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: She played a key role in recruiting new members, including
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: those from Hernandez's drug cartel, and was involved in the
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: planning and execution of the cult's ritual murders. Despite her
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: outward appearance as a diligent student and upstanding citizen, al
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Drute was deeply convict complicit in the ores horrors committed
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: by the cult. It's a little tongue twistery there for me.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Aldreday's dual identity as both a college student and a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: cult leader shock those who knew her. Her arrest and
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: subsequent conviction revealed the extent of her involvement in the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: cult's activities, shattering the image of the innocent young woman
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that she had carefully cultivated. Sorry, pardon me. The discover
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of the cult and its activities had a profound impact
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: on the communities of Mona Moros in Brownsville, as well
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: as on the law enforcement enforcement agencies in both Mexico
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and the United States. The sheer brutality of the murders,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: coupled with the ritualistic nature of the killings, sent shockwaves
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: through the region. For years, the cult had operated with impunity,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: largely because of the fear and instilled in both its
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: victims and potential witnesses. The belief that Constanzo and his
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: followers possessed supernatural powers made them seem untouchable. Many people
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: in the community were aware of the strange and often
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: terrifying rituals taking place at Rancho Santa Elina, but they
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: were too afraid to speak out. This atmosphere of fear
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: allowed the cult to continue its activities unchecked for years.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: The involvement of this yeah right, oh gosh, this is
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: story is dark, you guys. This is not great. It's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: dark The involvement of US authorities in the search for
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Mark Kilroy marked a turning point in the investigation. The
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: pressure from American law enforcement, combined with the media attention
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: surrounding the case, forced Mexican authorities to act. The cooperation
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: between the two countries was instrumental in dismantling the cult
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and bringing its members to justice. The case also highlighted
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the challenges faced by law enforcement when dealing with organized
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: crime crime groups that incorporate religious or occult practices into
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: their operations. The intersection of criminal activity with deeply held
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: religious beliefs made it difficult for authorities to predict the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: actions of the cult members or to understand their motivations.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: This complexity required a coordinated and multifaceted approach to the investigation.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: The story of Adolpho Constanzo and its cult captivated the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: public and media on both sides of the border. The
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: gruesome details of the murders, combined with the occult practices
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: of the cult made for sensational headlines that fueled public
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: fascination and fear. Newspapers, television shows, and magazines covered the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: case extensively, often focusing on the more lurid aspects of
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the story. The media dubbed the group Los Narco Sentinkos
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: or the Narco Satanists as We're going for the rest
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: of the thing, a name that underscored the perceived connection
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: between the cult's criminal activities and their religious practices. This label,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: while effected in capturing public attention, and also contributed to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the stigmatization of religions like Palo Maobi and Santa Ria,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: which were unfairly associated with the horrific crimes committed by
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the cult. The case also sparked debates about the influence
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: of the cult on vulnerable individuals and the potential dangers
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: of syncretic religions. While many practitioners of Palo Maombi and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Santa Ria condemned the actions of Constanzo and his followers,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the case nonetheless fueled misconceptions and fears about these religions.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The media coverage often failed to distinguish between the legitimate
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: practices of these religions and the twisted version practiced by
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the cult, leading to a broader public misunderstanding. I mean,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: they're not making Palo Maombi and Santarea look good at all.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sure no. That went really poorly for them. No,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: not at all.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: And I mean there's I mean, you know, we had
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Satanic panic here, right, and that whole Satanism. I mean,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it really put it in a terrible light when I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: will say this. You know, when when I looked up
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: the tenants of you know, like the Satanic Temple, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: started posting them on my Facebook now and again, and
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I was getting a lot of like church people being like,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: yeah that makes sense, Yeah great, that's awesome, cool, yeah
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah. And then at the end I posted all
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: of them and said what they were. Because the tenants
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: in and of themselves are fantastic. I mean, they're for
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the good people. If you follow them, you're great. But
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: like you put that Satanic temple on the top of it,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and they're like, I'm not looking at it, I'm not
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: reading it, I'm not considering it, blah blah blah blah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: So it's it's one of the things where I mean,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the media really drives that narrative home right very much.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: So I mean these people seem to fit it though,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: So yes, people like this. That makes things look bad.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: This is why we can't have nice things.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: This is why we can't have nice things. I don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: know much about Palo Miombi or Santa Ria, but I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: will say I'm going to look into them. I enjoy
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: theology a lot. I don't know much about either one
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: of those, so I'm certainly going to check that out,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: all right, So back to our story. The story of
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Adolpho Constanzo and his Call has left an indelible mark
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: on popular culture over the years. It has been the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: subject of numerous books, documentaries, and television shows, including an
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: episode of Oxygen Network's Deadly Cults. The case has also
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: inspired fictional portrayals and movies and TV series where elements
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of the story have been adapted in the crime dramas
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and horror films. I must say I have not heard
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: of this, or I should say, if I have heard
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: of this, I didn't know what I was hearing about,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Like is this the only case where they always talk
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: about there being these ritual sacrifices? I don't know, Like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: is this the case they base it off of all
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the time?
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I have little to no knowledge of any of this.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: So I know me either. Actually I got it like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: three hours ago. So I have questions. Oh, I have questions.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Have any of you in chat heard of this before,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'd be curious to know, all right. So, the legacy
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of the cult continues to influence the way society views
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the intersection of crime, religion, and the occult. The case
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: is often cited in discussions about the dangers of charismatic
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: leaders who exploit religious beliefs for their own gain. It
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: also serves as a cautionary tale about the potential for
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: extreme violence when criminal organizations adopt ritualistic practices as part
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: of their operation. In Mexico, the story of Los Narco
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Satanist is part of a broader narrative about the country's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: struggle with drug related violence and corruption. The involvement of
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: high ranking officials and the colts activities highlighted the pervasive
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: influence of drug cartels within the Mexican government and law
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: enforcement agencies. The case also exposed the vulnerabilities of communities
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: living in the shadow of these powerful criminal organizations. The
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: psychological dynamics within Constanzo's cult offer a window into the
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: broader phenomenon of cult behavior. Cults often form around a
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: charismatic leader who possesses the ability to manipulate and control
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: their followers through a combination of psychological emotional and sometimes
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: physical means. Constanzo's followers were drawn to him not only
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: because of his promises of power and protection, but also
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: because of the sense of belonging and purpose that the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: cult provided. Cults often prey on individuals who were searching
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: for meaning or or who feel disenfranchised from mainstream society.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: In the case of Constanzo's followers, many were involved in
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: the dangerous world of drug trafficking, where violence and betrayal
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: were commonplace. The cult offered them a sense of security,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: however illusionary, and to believed that they were part of
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: something larger and more powerful than themselves. I feel like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of groups exhibit cult like behavior without actually
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: being a cult. Like that's just kind of like human
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: in nature, human groups, like even on a small scale.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look up some of the
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: qualities of or characteristics generally accept the characteristics of a
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: cult to a certain degree, a lot of groups will
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: will absolutely follow that. I think in the point in
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: which a leader becomes what's the word I'm looking for,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: infallible and basically replaces every bit the part of the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: cults in which you're cut off from family. That kind
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: of a thing I think then they really start getting
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: into the dangerous side of things. However, you can get
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: very dangerous without those things. Lady and Gray had said
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: that there's a Criminal Minds episode where those religions are practiced,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and then Bell said that it's common knowledge down here
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: in Texas, so we know our resident expert to go.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I know, Bells, you and I are going to have
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: to have some talks about this, which I'm sure will
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: be a pleasure. They always are. I very much enjoy
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: those conversations, so please do tell me all about it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: We don't we don't really have diverse religions up here
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: in Ohio, so it's free standards. So I would love
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: to learn more for sure. All right. So Constanzo's belief
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: in his own magical powers became increasingly delusional surprise as
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: he saw greater control over the drug trade. I mean,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I bet the drugs weren't helping with that delusion at all.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: He approached the Calzaldez, one of the most powerful drug
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: families in Mexico, demanding to become a full business partner.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: When they refused, seven members of the Zala the family
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: mysteriously disappeared. Their bodies were later discovered gruesomely mutilated, with
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: parts like fingers, toes, ears, and even spines missing. These
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: were used in Constanzo's rituals, which he believed would protect
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: him from harm and ensure the success of his criminal enterprises. Yikes, bro,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that's not great.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Nope, nope, wow, nope, Okay.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: With the Kazoldas out of the way, Constanzo aligned himself
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: with the Hernandez Brothers, another influential drug cartel family. During
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: this time, he also moved Sarah, what'd you say?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I said, not those Hernanda's brothers.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Well, Hernan's brothers.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Weren't they weren't weren't they the Hernandez brothers, the two
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: that murdered their parents? Weren't they?
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Others? Menendez?
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: See, look, don't know nothing.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: You were a close.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Just when you think you're not sure, I take the
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: bar that much lower a ride, Gomean.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Oh No, that's okay, you're close. Ish. I'll give you
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: partial credit for the des part.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Ah, yes, Dez all right.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: So during this time he also met Sarah Aldrete, a
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: young woman who had become his second demand Algerte known
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: as La Madrina and the Godmother, was a college student
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: with a fascination for the occult, She quickly rose through
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the ranks of the cult, becoming Constanzo's most trusted lieutenant
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and overseers of its followers. In nineteen eighty eight, Constanzo
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: moved his operations to Rancho Santa Elena, a remote property
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: in the desert owned by the Hernandez family. The ranch
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: became the epicenter of the colt's activities, where they stored
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: large quantities of drugs and carried out increasingly statistic ritual murders.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Some of their victims were strangers, while others were rival
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: drug dealers who had crossed them. The rituals at Rancho
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Santa Elina were gruesome, with victims often tortured before being killed.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: The cult members believed that these human sacrifices made them
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: invincible to law enforcement and invincible in their criminal activities.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: The cult's activities reached a horrifying climax on March thirteenth,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, when Constanzo's followers abducted Mark Kilroy, a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: twenty one year old pre med student from the United States.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Kilroy had been in Mexico on spring break, enjoying the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: nightlife in Monte Moros. Unbeknownst to him, Constanzo had ordered
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: his followers to capture an Anglo mail for their next
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: human sacrifice, believing that this would grant them even greater power. Oh,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: that's horrible.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Kilroy was taken to Rancho Santa Elina, where he was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: subjected to unimaginable torture before being killed by Constanzo with
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a machete. Constanzo removed Kilroy's brain and spinal column for
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: use in his rituals, believing that this would make him
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and his fellow followers invincible. The discovery of Kilroy's mutilated
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: body would later lead to the unraveling of Costanzo's cult.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: That's not great, Yeah, no, not at all.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: No. Mark Kilroy's disappearance sparked an international investigation that brought
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: unprecedented pressure on Mexican's authorities. Kilroy's uncle, a special agent
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: with the US Custom Service, and his connections to ensure
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the case received top priority. The search for Kilroy led
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: to increase police pressure in Montemorros, putting Constanzo and his
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: followers under scrutiny. It's kind of ridiculous that it took
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: this guy for Mexican.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because like, that's a lot of people that they
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: ended up finding. Did I say that number yet? I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if I did say the number yet, But
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's not great, no, all right. So
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: on April first, nineteen eighty nine, one of Constanzo's followers,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: saraph and Hernandez Garcia, made a fatal mistake. Believing himself
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: to be protected by Constanzo's magic, he brazenly drove past
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: a police roadblock in Montemorros, leading authorities straight to Rancho Santolina.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Always the one guy, the one guy will raise.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: There's always that really slow rhinoceros in the back. Jumanji
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: taught me that right.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: A search of of the property uncovered sixty five pounds
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: of marijuana and the gruesome remnants of Costanzo's rituals, including
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: the niganga containing human remains. The ranch's caretaker identified Mark
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Kilroy with a photograph, and his body, along with the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: bodies of fourteen other victims, was e zoomed from the property.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Oh there's the number, so fifteen people there was. Yeah,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: that's not that's not great. As the investigation continued, members
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: of the Hernandez family and other followers were arrested and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: confessed to their roles in the murderers. However, Constanzo, Sara Aldrete,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and a few of their closest associates managed to evade capture,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: fleeing to Mexico City. For over a month, Constanzo remained
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: on the run, but his paranoia grew as the neck
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: closed around him. On May sixth, nineteen eighty nine, Mexican
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: police finally tracked Constanzo and his followers to an apartment
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: building in Mexico City. Costanzo, who believed that his magical
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: powers made him invincible, spotted a police car outside the
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: building and panicked, Oh shocking, what mind blowing? He opened
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: fire with a machine gun, initiating a forty five minute
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: gun battle with the police. Forty five minutes.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of bullets.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: That is a lot of bullets.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, Capr, says am. I the only one imagining
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: George Stanza doing this. I think that yep, hard not
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to right.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I love George. Realizing that his capture was imminent, Constanzo
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: ordered one of his followers, Alvero de Leon, to kill
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: him and his lover, Martin Quitana. That's right, Martin comes
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: back into the picture. De Leon complied riddling them with
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: bullets before surrendering to the police. Sarah Aldrite, who had
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: attentative fleed the apartment, was also arrested at the scene.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: The capture and death of Adolfo Constanzo brought an ind
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: too one of the most terrifying cults in modern history.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: In total, fourteen cult members were charged with various crimes,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: including murder, drug trafficking, and obstruction of justice. Sarah Audreti,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: along with Ilo and Saraphine Hernandez, was convicted of multiple
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: murders and sentenced to over sixty years in prison. That
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: was it, by the way. De Leon received a thirty
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: year sentence for his role in the killings. The horrific
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: crimes of Constanzo and his followers left a lasting impact
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: on Mexico and the United States. The case became a
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: media sensation, with newspapers dubbing the cult the Narco Satanists.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: The public was both fascinated and horrified by the idea
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: that a group of seemingly ordinary people could commit such
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: atrocities in the name of their religious belief. And that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: is my case. Well Dario's case, and that was I'm
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: going to need three more glasses of wine after that.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't lying when she said she needs a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: shot instead of a glass of wine. Right. Oh man,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Well that was very very violent. Yikes.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing. It's a really hard one to interject
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: with any sort of humor or comments or things like that.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: That's really really messed up. Drink out my from your
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: bottom Caulduran gapts. Oh, it's called a naganga, all right,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that's our word of the day. It is.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I will try which I will try
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: not to spell. It's true. So we're we're going from
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: uh Mexico to Japan, as I mentioned before, and I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: am calling this uh case a bad case of gas
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Shoko Asahara and the toxic rise and fall of ALM Shinrikio.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: So today we are unraveling the story of a man
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: who took the phrase bad vibes to a whole new level.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Shoko Asahara. You may not know the name, but trust me,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: this guy may headlines for all the wrong reasons. Imagine
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: a blend of doomsday prepping, weaponized nerve gas, and self
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: proclaimed messiah with an affinity for posing in dramatic robes.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be that kind of wild ride, okay. Shoko Asahar,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: the charismatic, reads super creepy leader of am Shinrikio cult,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: managed to convince thousands of followers that he was the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: second coming of somebody important, and in true cult fashion,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: things went from let's meditate and find enlightenment enlightenment to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: how about we unleash saren gas in a Tokyo subway
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: really fast?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: So what.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Let's let's get into the life and crimes of am
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Shinrikio show Go Asahara, the man who somehow made mass
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: murder part of his spiritual journey.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, just I thought mine was dark?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, Okay, It's not like I tried not to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: cover too much of the dark dark stuff, but it's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: important to I mean, what they did was it's it's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: it's dark in the way that, like you, you wouldn't
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: know that it was happening until you were impacted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: So, Shoko Asahara was born Chizuo Matsumoto on March second,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five. Don't worry, We've got a whole bunch
• 1:09:37
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• 1:09:44
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• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Tisuo Matsumoto on March second, nineteen fifty five was born
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: in Yatsushiro, Kumamoto Prefecture, Japan, on the southern island of Kyushu,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: and was the fourth of seven children. His family was poor,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: his father was basically his father was a tatammy matt maker,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: and one of his older brothers had almost no vision
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: and attended a school for the blind. Asahara was born
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: partially blind, with vision only in one eye, and attended
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: the same school for the blind, and his parents decided
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: to send him and his younger brother, who had normal eyesight,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: to the same school because the children received a government
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: subsidy and free meals. I don't blame him, be honest.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Despite his disability, he exhibited a dominant personality, often bullying
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: other students. A critical biography by Shoko Igawa suggested that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Asahara was obsessed with acquiring money and power while he
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: was in school. He had saved thirty thousand dollars by
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: the time he graduated from high school. Wow, which is
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: wild right. It's a lot of lunch money. He also
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: ran unsuccessfully for student body president and elementary junior high
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and senior high schools, and he showed a mastery of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: physical fitness and body control, earning a black belt in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: judo while still in school. After finishing school, Asahara attempted
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: to pursue a career in medicine, but failed to gain
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: admission to medical school. Instead, he moved to a Tokyo
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: suburb and turned to acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine, which
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: are common professions for visually impaired individuals in Japan. In
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, Osahara married Tomko Ishi. He would have
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: several kids with her. It said that Tomoko has become
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: so his wife. It said that Tomoko has now become
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: a senior executive in Amshinrikia, and one of their kids,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: an eleven year old, is prominent in the sect. But
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: there's very little known about his family life, which quite frankly,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: is probably for the best to be honest. Osahar's interest
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: in spiritual matters began in the early nineteen eighties, when
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: he became involved in various religious and esoteric practices.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: There's that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: There's that word again.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Esoteric is the second word of the day.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Right, there are a lot of right in Ganga, esoteric
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: in Ganga. There are a lot of parallels in this,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of parallels. So he studied Chinese astrology and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Taoism and experimented with yoga and meditation. His spiritual explorations
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: were also influenced by Buddhism, Christianity, and Hinduism. So again
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: we're looking at a connection. It's like a blending of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: multiple religions to get to what you want.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: By nineteen eighty four, Asahara had begun to attract followers,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: leading to the formation of a small group that would
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: eventually evolve into the cult known as Alm Shinrikio. So
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: in eighty four, Asahara founded a yoga and meditation group.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: It was called Alm Shinsen no Kai which is Alm
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Divine Being society, which did become Am Shinrikio which means
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Supreme Truth. The group initially presented itself as a spiritual
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: organization focused on self improvement, combining elements of Buddhism, Hinduism,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: and apocalyptic prophecies, and it was a fifteen person meditation
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: group Osahara claimed to have reached enlightenment and positioned himself
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: as a guru with special powers, including the ability to
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: levitate and read minds. Wooh, there's a woman with really
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: long nails on TV that does that too. I can't
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: remember what her name is, uh, I don't.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Know, but.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: In this meditation. In his meditation sessions during this time,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: he claimed that the god Shiva had been revealed to
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: him and had appointed him Abirichetsu no Makoto, which is
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: the god of light who leads the armies of the gods,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: who was to build the kingdom of shamb Chambala Champala Chambala.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: A utopian society. It's just fun to say. A utopian
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: society made up of those who had developed psychic powers.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Sounding more and more like scientology, am Shinrikio began attracting
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: a following, particularly among young professionals, students, and scientists. The
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: group promised spiritual awakening and salvation from the apocalypse that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Asahara claimed was imminent. As the membership grew, so did
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Asahara's ambitions. In eighty nine, the group was officially recognized
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: as a religious organization in Japan, giving it tax exempt
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: status and l legal protections. Oh yay. What else led
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: to their arise is kind of important because it quickly
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: grew into a movement with almost fifty thousand members, so
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: there had to have been something. John Perraccini, in a
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: chapter from the book Aptitude for Destruction, wrote that there
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: were three aspects of the group that accounted for the growth.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: One ALM was the creation of Shoka Sahara, its founder.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: He was charismatic and he was a spiritual guru. Number Two,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: ALM learned how to raise money, ultimately amassing considerable wealth
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: via donations from followers and its businesses, both legal and illegal.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: And then three ALM learned, Oh we're back. Three ALM
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: learned to operate in ways that exploited the national and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: foreign environments in which it functioned. In addition, the group
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: appealed to a part of the younger population that wanted
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: personal fulfillment, and it exploited the religious tolerance of Japan.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: In other countries, ALM capitalized on Russia's vulnerabilities as a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: newly created post communist country and the societal openness of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: countries such as the United States and Australia. That's right,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: they were in all three of those countries. In addition,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: in the same chapter, Parachini writes that ALM's evolution is
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: divided into five periods. The first was an embryonic religious
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: group that attracted Japanese adherents, mostly young people. Members were
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: seeking a peace state of being and freedom from their
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: troubles on this earth. That period lasted until the group's
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: first killing. The second began in fall of nineteen eighty
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: eight continued until the group's complete failure in the ninety
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: not the group's failure, but like their failure running in
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety national election. In nineteen eighty eight, a
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: young group member died during an initiation ceremony in front
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: of Asahara and other group members. In August of nineteen
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: eighty nine, the group was granted official religious corporation status,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: like I said, giving it privileges. This caused dramatic growth.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: It included it because they basically legitimized it right, including
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: an increase in net worth from less than four hundred
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: and thirty million yen to over one hundred billion yen,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: which in twenty twenty four dollars is seven million to
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: one point three billion dollars. So by the end of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: that time that growth ended up one point three billion
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: US dollars.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: That is wild.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: You know what's more wild? It only took six years.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: What yeah, and they went from membership from twenty members
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: to twenty thousand members by ninety two see yep. So
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: despite this, A leaders feared the death would fear the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: death of that that initiate would adversely influence the government
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: authorities who were considering an appeal of their decision to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: delay granting the group's certification as religious organization. So they
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: did what any religious group would do and disposed of
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: the dead member's body quietly, because of course they did.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: After that, they killed another group member who saw the
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: first death and wanted to leave the organization, and Asahara
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: said that quote this killing was necessary to allow ALM
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: to flourish and fulfill its mission of salvation. Uh Asahara's
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: feelings of grandiosity and paranoia about being prevented from achieving
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: ALM's goals were stoked by these two deaths, and the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: group's membership did eventually slow. There was bad media coverage,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: and relatives of members had already formed an am Shinrikio
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Victims Society, and ALM found that almound that found that
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: that creation of that society proved that there was conspiracy
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: against Asahara because they're going to make anything work for them.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: My goodness, gracious, you know, it's sad is that somebody
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: created that many accounts, with that many emails. It's amazing.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: It is very lonely. Very you are very lonely the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: group's membership. I said that already black. The victim Society
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: retained to Susume Sakamoto, a civil rights attorney who began
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: to investigate a number of AL activities that he found
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: that he found suspicious. In response, Asahar ordered a small
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: group of his most devoted followers to kill Sakamoto. In
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: the course of the killing, the ALM assassins felt they
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: also should kill Sakamoto's wife and fourteen month old son.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, not great.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Phase three followed the defeat in the nineteen
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: ninety elections, and the themes were a rising this was
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: so face ree followed the defeat, and the themes were
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: a rising case of paranoid paranoia and the devolvement into
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: a more delusional worldview. Osahara seriously thought the full slate
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: of ALM candidates was going to be elected. However, they
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: got an embarrassingly low number of votes, and that stoked
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: that further stoked those conspiracy thoughts. So Asahara felt alienated
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: and rejected, there was a decrease in the number of
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: new members and an increase in the number of members
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: who wanted to leave. Osahara's words became apocalyptic and violent,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: and that this period established the ideology for ALM's weapons
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: development and procurement programs because why not right? And part
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: of this included killing people simply to quote liberate them
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: and using poison as a method of societal purging. Osahara
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: alleged the US military was attacking ALM Schinrikio and its
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: facilities with chemical weapons irony. This created a pretext that
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: justified their military prep and development of chemical weapons. Phase four,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: My goodness, gracious Jesu Louis, let's see. Phase four occurred
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: sometime after the elections ninety two, from nineteen ninety two
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety three and continued until the ninety five
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Tokyo subway attack. The group increased or enhanced their ambition
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: of developing weapons and using their offices to amass weapons alms.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Violence at this point extended beyond attacks on its own
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: members and became to include discreete assassinations, to include in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: members for a higher purpose, to assassinations of outside critics.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: In July of ninety four, they released Seren near a
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: dormitory that housed three judges. The attack killed eight people
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: and injured were five hundred more, including the judges. The
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: case they were listening to was a land dispute between
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: ALM Shinrikio and the community, and the case was subsequently postponed.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: They in order to do this, they used a converted
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: refrigerator truck and released a cloud of Seren which floated
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: near the homes of the judges. Police investigation focused only
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: on an innocent local resident, Yoshiyuki Kouno, and failed to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: implicate the cult at the time. It was only after
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: the Tokyo subway attack that they made that that link,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: and that connection the final phase, phase five occurred with
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: the trials of our leaders and key operatives. The organization
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: has since diminished in size and capability, and it's apologized
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: to the victims of the ALM attacks, changed its name,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: and it's broken into two factions, ones focused on peaceful
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: spiritual activities and the other one still devoted Asahara. Now
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: over time and as we talked about Osahara's teachings grew
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: increasingly extreme, focusing on an apocalyptic vision in which only
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Alm Shinrikio followers would survive a global cataclysm. Sounds famili Here.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: He prophesied, prophesized, prophesied, prophesaid, he said something. He prophecied
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: that World War III was imminent and that Alm Shinrikio
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: would play a central role in the coming events. The
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: cult began amassing wealth through donations, businesses, and even extortion,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: enabling Asahara to expand his influence and acquire properties in
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Japan and abroad. Now, in terms of a bird's eye
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: view of this cult, like I said, we had a
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: blend of various religious traditions. They became increasingly focused on
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: the end of the world. Claimed to be the reincarnation
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: of various religious figures, including Jesus Christ and Buddha or
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: whatever he felt that day. Apparently, Asahara preached that humanity
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: was on the brink of destruction due to its mortal decay,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: and this is amazing and only am Shinrikio members would
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: be saved. The group engaged in rigorous spiritual practice. They
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: did yoga, fasting, meditation, but over time those practices became
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: intense and abusive, with followers subjected to physical and psychological stress,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: and Osahara's teachings also included the idea of poa, which
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: he interpreted as the transfer of spiritual merit to others,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: including through killing those deemed enemies of the cult, because
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: of course, if you kill for him, you have spiritual merit.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Why I know, well, yeah, Shinrikio was a highly hierarchical
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: with Assahara. Hah, I made a joke and didn't even
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: think I was gonna do it. Osahara was at the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: top as the supreme leader. Below him were a group
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: of holy monks who managed the day to day operations
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: and enforced Asahara's directives. Alms shadowed the structure of the
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Japanese government and organized into twenty one identifiable ministries and departments,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: with each one headed by twenty one of the twenty
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: three closest members to Asahara. You had things like the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Ministry of Commerce, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Finance.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: You had Ministry of Health and Welfare, Ministry of Labor,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Ministry of Vehicles. He had Eastern, New and Western followers agency,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: and every single one of these had had a had
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: a like, had a whole month that was ahead of it. Uh. Yeah,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: no it uh. Lady and Gray asked did it have
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: worldwide membership at least in Russia, the United States, Australia,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: and Japan. So yes. The cult was secretive and insular,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: with members cut off from their families tail is oldest time.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: The inner circle of the cult was heavily involved in
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: illegal activities, including the production of chemical and biological weapons.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk more about that in a second.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: So as am Shinrikio grew more extreme, it began engaging
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: criminal activities to achieve its apocalyptic goals. The cult conducted
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: experiments with chemical and biological agents, including saren gas. Bachel
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: I said this so many times today botcha, linum toxin,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: and anthrax in preparation for what they believe be an
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: inevitable conflict. In ninety four, am Shinrikio carried out its
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: first sarin gas attack and Matsumoto, Japan. Has mentioned above,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: the attack was a test run for a more significant operation.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that more and just a bit.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: At the end of nineteen ninety four, the cult broke
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: into the Hiroshima factory of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in an
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: attempt to steal technical documents on military weapons such as
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: tanks and artillery. In December of ninety four and January
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: of ninety five, Masami chu Chia synthesized one hundred to
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: two hundred grams of VX, which was used to attack
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: three people. December second of ninety four, Naiboru Mitsuno believed
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: to have assisted former members of ALM Shinrikio. Let's see
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: was that he was attacked with syringes containing VX gas,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: which left him in a series likes in serious condition. Yeah.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Tatahido Hamaguchi, suspected of being a spy by Asahara, was
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: attacked at seven am on December twelfth and ninety four.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: This was an attack by another AL member who sprinkled
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: the nerve agent on his neck. He collapsed after trying
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: to chase them and died ten days later, having been
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: in a deep coma the whole time. March twentieth of
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: ninety five, ALM Shinrikio members released sarin gas on the
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Tokyo subway system, and we're gonna talk about that right now.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: So Alum believed armageddon to be inevitable in the form
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: of a global war involving the United States and Japan,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: that non members were doomed to internal hell but could
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: be saved if killed by cult members, and that only
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: members of the cult would survive the apocalypse and would
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: afterwards build the Kingdom of Shechembhala. On top of that,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: Asahara was deteriorating and developed health anxiety and expressed suicidal views.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: In addition, in nineteen ninety they ran twenty five candidates
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: in the election. Like I mentioned, they received a grand
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: total of just under eighteen hundred votes, So not great,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: So right, wah just sad trombone, It just sad trumpet,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: mushroom or whatever that thing was called.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Not the mushrooms. They're taken over the right.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: That's what he should have invested in. So because of this,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Osahara did what anyone would do after not winning an election.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: He blamed it on Free Masons and Jews.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, obviously obvious, it's just what we do. They
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: got the lasers and everything.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: So the Free Masons and Jews caused Osahara to order
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Alm to produce spatchulinum and foster gene to overthrow the
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Japanese government. So damn Cliche members became disillusioned. As mentioned before,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: they defected, which strengthened the attitude that those who were
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: not enlightened deserved to be destroyed. So everything that was
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: happening to weaken the group only served two more militarize
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: and strengthen the group for the people who stayed. Because
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: that's how charismatic Asahara was.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Attempts to stock up on bachelinum toxin were unsuccessful.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: Taichi and No was one of the Me was a
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: member who was tasked with getting this. They actually attempted
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: to produce it, initially using three twenty six hundred gallon fermentors.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: They ended up making a like a brown soupy broth
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: that wasn't purified instead, but even if they did purify it,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: reports say they it would have consisted mostly of like
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: a bacterial cultivation and other than this, This part made
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: me chuckle just a little bit. Other than one of
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: the workers falling into the fermentor and nearly drowning, There
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: were no impacts from any of this this like creation,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: but in total they made fifty batches of twenty four
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: hundred gallons of this stuff.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't say anything affected, right, smile.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: So despite that, they loaded it in April nineteen ninety
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: into three trucks that were equipped with spray devices. This
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: is despite those reports that it had no impact on
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: mice that they tested it on the poor meases. They
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: were going to spray it at two US naval bases,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Narita Airport, the Diet Building which is the government building,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: the Imperial Palace, and the headquarters of rival religious groups
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Q West Side Story and for those of you who
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: know West Side Story, when you're in Alm, you're in
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: elm all the way from your verse gasping breath to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: your last gasping breath because you almost drowned in the
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: fermentor I think that's how it goes. Asahara at the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: same time said that the apocalyptic war couldn't save folks
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: outside of the cult. The spraying attacks failed to cause
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: any problems. Despite this, and thanks to Asahara telling his
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: folks to go to a three day seminar and seek shelter,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: many of the one and seventy people who attended the
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: seminar became devout monks. Oh I'm used, yeah right, yeah,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. I'm used fourteen dummy companies to purchase acres
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: of land and amino and began building a compound incorporating facility.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Which is funny really because this is pretty much exactly
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: how Walt Disney bought up Florida, so that they didn't
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: know what he was ultimately planning to do there. And like,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: I just imagine Asahara watching like snow White and having
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: this Eureka moment. So it's awesome. Anyways, I hope so,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: I hope he whistled while he worked. One thing's for sure.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: This troll has some kind of fetish with feet. Anyways,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: the public was against them. I'm right, the public was.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: It's just it is something that somebody without any female
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: presence in their life would comment on the public bathach.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: The public was against them, thought they acted illegally in
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: doing this, and a police investigation resulted in the arrest
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: of several members. Asahara then feared the police a police raid,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: and he ordered that all biological and chemical weapons be destroyed.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: From then on, they promised to focus on nonviolent strategies
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: until they didn't called relied on mainstream methods to attract
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: other members, which included multiple TV appearances by Asahara. They
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: also stated alm Shinrikio. They also started am Shinrikio broadcasting
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: radio in Russia in April of ninety two. But as
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: mentioned before, Asahara's mental health continued to deteriorate, and he
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: said he was having hallucinations and experiencing paranoia. He no
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: longer could be found doing public appearances other than staying
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: on the radio, and said that the world. Because of this,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: the world was keeping him from fulfilling his destiny as Christ. Yeah,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: that's it. Convenience right. At the same time, he replaced
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: his predominantly female group of pop advisors with more aggressive men.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: This in turn led to the startup of the violent
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: campaign that we know of. He he published a book
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: that was a little on the nose, declaring myself the Christ.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: He laid out his doomsday prophecy again that included World
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: War III and the final conflict would end with nuclear AMAgeddon.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: He said he was going to take on the sins
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: of the world, and to that, I say, how kind
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: of you, sir? I have enough for everybody. He also
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: claimed to see dark conspiracies that were propagated by the Jews, Freemasons,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: the Dutch, the British royal family, and rival Japanese religions,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: of course, because making a random group of people the
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: enemy makes it a lot easier to sell your shit.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the Dutch did to them or him,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: but perhaps he was the victim of a Dutch oven
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: and well he said he'd had it, or he saw
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Austin Powers three and heard Michael Caine insult the Dutch
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: and said that is it. In September of ninety two,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Osahara was made president of the Okamura That's right, Osahara
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: was made president of the Okmora Iron Works because the
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: president was a member of this. Tell me when I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: explain this to you, I want you to tell me
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: what this sounds like. Currently, osaharas made president. Ninety percent
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: of the staff are dismissed. They're replaced with other members
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: of ALM Schinrikio. Thanks to the takeover, they were able
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: to smuggle in AK seventy four rifles and bullets and
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: started prototyping rifles based on AK seventy four designs. Well,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: makes you wonder what Elon's doing recas the biological weapons.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: It sounds a lot like X.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: It's all I'm saying, Oh, it sounds like very different.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: But oh either, I'm just saying it sounds I wasn't
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: going anywhere else but there the biological weapon. It's safer there,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: which is funny. That's the only time it's been said
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: in the past six months. The Biological Weapons section also
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: started back up. They not only pursued the creation of
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: bachelinum toxin, but also anthrax. They didn't attempt to purify
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: the product again, and more failed attacks on individuals were
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: attempted in ninety three and ninety four, and the anthrax
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: program was a failure as well. It just was not
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: going well. Around November of ninety two, a small lab
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: was started in order to conduct initial research on what
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: the most cost effective substance to cause harm would be
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: what a mission and they determined that it would be saren.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: This also was one of the chemical weapons that a
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: was sure they would be attacked with, so they were
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: going to create it too. Uh They asked uh Suchia,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: head of the lab, to produce a small amount of saren.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: He did, and after that was produced and worked, he
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: ordered He was ordered to produce one hundred and fifty
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: thousand pounds of saren and she's suchia to.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: His what was this like against us guy's will? No,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: like the lab guy, he was like a devow like
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I got this.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. However, to his credit he said he couldn't do
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: that as the LAB could only scale up so much. So,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: of course they bought land next to the next to
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: the lab and they planted a chemical plant, right, they
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: bought a They bought and planned a chemical plant build
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: and labeled it Satyon seven, which is true. They purchased
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: all the necessary equipment and goods with shell companies that
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: didn't fall under Owum but rather under Hasagawa Chemical which
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: was owned by Asahara, because of course it was I
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: just want to let you know, these are a bunch
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: of nerds that got popular because they were able to
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: harness the early Internet, et cetera. In September, Yeah, in
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: September of ninety three, Osahara and twenty four cult members
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: traveled to Perth, Australia. They brought generators, protective equipment, chemicals
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: to make saren et cetera. Of course, those chemicals were
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: confiscated by customs, but then they just repurchased them and
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: chartered a flight to Banjarwan Orange Station, which is where
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: they had a spot where the cult was looking for
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: uranium deposits to make nuclear weapons.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: They didn't even like manage the staring.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Gas again again with the feet, like find a nose
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: to like I'm sorry, Like you can't like the only
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: thing that you stared down at. Broaden your horizons. I mean, listen,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call I call them like sa season u
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: And at this point now you're just annoying. They stayed
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: for eight days and they tried to return in October,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: but they were denied visas. They eventually decided to sell
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: the station in October of ninety four, but they left
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: behind multiple drums of hazardous and toxic chemicals and empty
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: bottles of sak strewn about. Because that's great, right, The
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: new owners contacted the Australian Federal Police. Well done. The
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: police inspected the property and it was exposed as a
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: former former chemical weapons testing site for am Shinrikio, but
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: that didn't stop them. The facility they were building by
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: the lab that I mentioned earlier was completed in September
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: of ninety three, and it ended up being able to
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: produce eleven to thirteen gallons of sarin, which is a
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: lot the value. Yeah, it doesn't take much the value.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: So so that that building. The United Nations estimated the
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: value of that building and its contents, and they estimated
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: that building being worth thirty million dollars. And that's how
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: much they put into that that facility, which is wild.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: How do they make this money?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: They got billions of donations dollars. That's wild, tax free,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Despite all the money, despite the smarts,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: the operations pretty unsafe. An analyst who looked at this
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: said the cult had quote a high degree of book learning,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: but virtually nothing in the way of technical skill. The
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: facility developed leaks. Buckets were used to contain spills technicians
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: and he'll fumes. On repeated occasions. They developed anything from
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: nosebleeds to convulsions. Oxic chemicals leaked from the site and
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: leaked from the site, and there was an accident at
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: the planet November ninety four that actually forced the stoppage
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: of the chemical agent production. So great December of ninety three,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Chuchia made a total of six point six pounds of saren.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: They carried out two separate assassination attempts on Daisaku. Keda
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: leader of the Soka Gaki Gakai, which was a rival
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: Japanese religious movement that was in the middle of ninety four.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: They used a truck with a spraying system, which mal
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: fuck this is this karma is a bee. But on
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: a separate occasion, they used a truck with a spraying
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: system which malfunctioned and it ended up spraying saren into
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: the truck itself, mildly poisoning the people in the truck.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Right uh. The second attack used a modified truck. This
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. The second attack used a modified truck
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: that had an evaporation system, which basically was them in
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: a truck heating saren gas over a gas stove fire
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: or heating saren over a gas stove fire. The truck
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: caught on fire and poisoned the driver Tomomitsu Nimi, causing
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: the operators to run away. Now he ended up being fine.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: He ended up being treated and fine because he comes
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: up later. It didn't matter though failures be damned. Alm
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: Shinrikio knew sarin was efficient and it was effective, and
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Takazawo was put in charge of the operations of Satyan seven.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Suchiya was assigned to other projects. So Suchiya the was
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: the original one who made all the seran uh, but
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: he was assigned to other projects which sound like total fun,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: including the development of psychoactives like LSD, PCP, methamphetamine, mescaline,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: and phenobarbital to be used in called activities in brainwashinga party.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Party.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I am watching that RuPaul's All Stars he also made right.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: He also made small portions of phosgene VX, somon, cyclosarin,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: and gunpowder. So let's I just be I am going
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about the attacks, but I kind of want
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: to talk just a little bit about sarin. So. Saren's
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: a human made chemical nerve agent which is one of
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: the most toxic and rapidly acting of all known nerve agents.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: It interferes with the operation of an enzyme that stops
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: muscles from contracting, and when that enzyme doesn't work, the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: muscles are constantly being stimulated in our bodies, which causes
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: exposed people to become tired and literally no longer be
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: able to continue breathing.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Scary stuff.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even though it's a solid, it can readily
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: evaporate into a vapor and spread, and you can be
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: exposed to it through skin contact, eye contact, and hailing.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: If it's released into water, people can be exposed by
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: touching the water or drinking the water. Eating, drinking, or
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: touching food or drink contaminated with it can expose people
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: as well. Exposure to a low or moderate dose can
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: cause any or all of the following and get ready
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: for a you know, you know the end of the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: medicine ads that always have the side effects. Yes, because
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: abnormally lower right chest tightness, confusion, diarrhea, drooling, difficulty breathing, drowsiness,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: eye pain, itiering, excessive sweating, headache, heart rates, low or
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: fast increase, urination, muscle cramps, noge of vomiting and or
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: abdominal pain, rapid breathing, running nose, shortness of breath, small
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: pinpoint pupils, tremor's, blurred vision, weakness or wheezing ooh, and
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: even a small drop of sarin on skin can cause
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: sweating and muscle twitching. Large doses can result in loss
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: of consciousness, cardiac arrests, possibly leading to death, coma, convulsions, paralysis,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: respiratory failure possibly leading to death, seizures and twitching. Uh,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: it's not something to be fucked with. And I probably
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: could have summed it up that way in a TLDR,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: but not as dramatic, and we all know me you.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Are in the best way.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah uh so. The goal, the idea was that the
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: members who were going to carry out this attack carried
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: small packets of seren and they they carried umbrellas with
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: sharpened tips onto the trains that they were told to board.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: They dropped the packets at the in the train cars
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: and they punctured them with the umbrella, and then they
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: got off the train and left the station to meet
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: a car waiting for them, and the packets would seep
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: the saran into the train car, passenger, subway workers and
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: all those who came in contact with them would be impacted.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: So on the Chiota line, iku O Hayashi and Tomomtso
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: Nimi if you remember, apparently not learning from their truck poisoning,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: they were assigned to this train line. Hayashi wore a
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: surgical mask, which is commonplace in Japan, especially when one's
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: sick and during cold flu season, in order to not
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: make other people sick, imagine that. And they left for
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Shincho Ocha Nomitsu. The train continued leaking Saren until four
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: stops later at Kasumigaseki station, the bags were removed. The
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: bags of saran were removed, eventually disposed of by attendants,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: and of course those attendants died. The train kept on
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: to the next station, where it was ultimately stopped, evacuated
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: and cleaned. But that wasn't the only line they attacked
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: multiple There was the Maru Nucci line. Yeah, uh Kenichi
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Herosi and Koichi Kidamura were assigned so many syllables were
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: assigned two packets on this train. Heros boarded the train
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: and bought a sports tabloid to wrap the Saran packets in,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: and then he got on the second car of the
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Marinucci line going the other way. He was about to
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: release the saren, but he thought that the net loud
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: noises from like the paper and the Saran packages and
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: stuff the packets. He thought that that had caught the
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: attention of a school girl. Contrary to popular belief, those
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: trains are really quiet, really quiet, silent. It's like the
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: It's like the metro or a monorail late late at night,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: despite how many people are in there. Anyways, the sounds
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: caught the attention of a school girl he thought. He
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: got off the train at one of the two stops,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: moved to the third car instead of the second one.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: He dropped the newspapers to the floor, punctured the saren packets,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: beat the bent the umbrella tip. He like punctured them
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: so hard he bent the sharpened umbrella tip and then
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: all and because of this, all thirty fluid ounces of
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: saren were released onto the floor of the train. He
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: then left, hopped into Kiddimora's car. Yeah, and that release
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: meant that he poisoned himself, but they had an antidote
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: in the car, so he was fine right. Nineteen nineteen
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: stops later, two passengers who were severely hurt because of this,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: were carried out of the train car. Another station attendant
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: removed the saran packets. One of the two passengers carried
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: out of the train were the only fatality from this attack.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: The train, though, kept kept going with sarin still on
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: the floor in the third car. Five stops after the
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: nineteen stops, it reached the end of the line. Passengers
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: continued to board the train and it kept going until
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: it was finally taken out of service two stops later.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Who this attack resulted in one fatality and three hundred
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: and fifty eight being seriously injured on this line. Then
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: you had the ik ikobld on Ikobukuro bound line, and
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: that was Masado Yoko Yama and Kiyotaka Tonozaki. They were
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: to release Saren there. They got a newspaper they wrapped
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: the Saren packets in it. Yoka Yoko Yama was I
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: think he was the brankster because he ended up getting
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: a wig in fake glasses and he boarded the fifth
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: car to do this. He poked at the Saran packets.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: When the train reached the next station, he fled left
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: the Saran packets on the train car. Luckily, they weren't
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: punctured completely. In fact, one was fully intact and the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: other one was punctured just once the Saran was released. Slowly,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: the train reached the end of the line, but then
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: was stopped and searched. They couldn't find any Saran packets,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: so the train departed again. Passengers soon got ill and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: let attendants know of the saran soaked newspapers. Staffer moved
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  Speaker 2: to the packets and mopped the floor, but then the
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  Speaker 2: train still kept going. The train arrived at its final
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  Speaker 2: destination of Shinjuku, and was only put out of service
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: an hour later, and there were over two hundred people
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: left sly injured. I promise, we're almost done. I mean
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: it's a marathon.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how many events so far? Like they just
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: kept going like so far. They have not been intervened
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  Speaker 1: with like that is for.
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  Speaker 2: Years, well for years, absolutely, And then this attack was
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: so I mean, I hate to say it, but it
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: was well planned. This was all happening at the same time,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: so they couldn't talk to each other. They didn't know
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: what the hell was going on because they couldn't learn
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  Speaker 2: from one to, you know, influence the other's decisions. But
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: the Habaya line, Toru Toyota, that's right, Toyota and Katsuwa
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Takahashi planned to release Saraen on this line. Again newspaper
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  Speaker 2: wrapped it up. They arrived at Nakamaguru station. They boarded
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  Speaker 2: the first car, set the saran packets on the floor.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: On the way out. At his next stop, Toyota put
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  Speaker 2: holes in both packets and left the train. This took
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  Speaker 2: literally a total of two minutes. Stops later, at Rapongi station,
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  Speaker 2: passengers started feeling the effects already and opened the windows.
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  Speaker 2: By the next stop, passengers were panicking the first the
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: first car was evacuated. Passengers were taken to the hospital,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: but the train continued down the line for one more stop.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: On this line, one person died and five hundred and
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: thirty two were seriously injured.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Knakamagura bound line. This was the responsibility of Yasuo
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: Hayashi and Shigeo Sugamoto. Hayashi brought so. Hayashi brought three
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  Speaker 2: packets onto the train. He carried a messed up leftover
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: packet because he wanted to keep them from being suspicious
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: of his loyalty. I guess he thought something was wrong there.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: One more bag and I guess they were They would
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: be satisfied, but he boarded the third car of that line.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: He dropped the Saren packets to the floor. Two stops later,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: he poked holes in two of the three and left
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: the train. He had made the most punctures of the
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: whole group. Four people died as a result. Of course,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: a puddle of Saren was on the floor of the
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: passenger cars. The train continued to the next station. Man,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: you need a life. They only kicked the package they
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: found out of the car, and they only kicked two
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: out of three of the packages. Passengers ended up stumbling
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: out and collapsing. Between the five stations. Eight people died
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: and two hundred and seventy five ultimately were seriously injured.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: And I'll give you the stats in total in a
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: second here. So, the Tokyo subway attack shocked Japan and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: the world, leading to a massive investigation by Japanese authorities.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: Within days, on May sixteenth, nineteen ninety five, police raided
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: Amshinrikio's compounds across the country, uncovering a stockpile of chemical weapons, explosives,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: and other illegal materials. They thought the cult members might resist,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: and so they stationed the first airborne brigade of the
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: japan Ground Self Defense Force nearby just in case we
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: don't want to have a WACO. Maybe they did, I
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: don't know on the day of the attack. So here
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: are your stats. On the day of the attack, ambulances
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: transported six hundred and eighty eight patients and nearly five
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: thousand people reached hospitals by other means. Two hundred and
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: seventy eight hospitals saw over fifty five hundred patients seventeen
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: were deemed critical, thirty seven severe, nine hundred and eighty
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: four moderately ill with vision problems. By mid afternoon, five
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: hundred of those had recovered from their vision problems and
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: were released. Most others were okay to go home the
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: following day. Within a week, only a few were left
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: in the hospital. Eight died that day and four more
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: died after as a result. So wow, I mean, also,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: like the population of Japan and how busy those central
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: areas are trains and such, I mean, and we're lucky
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: it wasn't double, to be honest.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I was like. I was thinking, like, wow,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: that's those numbers are huge. These numbers are ridiculously huge.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: But I've seen photos of how packed the subway trains are,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: and like that's you know, a blessing because I think
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: they were intending it to be way more catastrophic than
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: And oh for sure. I mean it's like to give
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: you know, and we don't want to compare tragedies because
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: those folks they all experienced terrible things, but to give
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: you an idea, right the the the nine to eleven attacks,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: the death toll of that was just four under three
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: thousand and although this ended up only being you know,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give you an idea of how
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: many people were invading the hospitals right, which was over
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: fifty five hundred, which is insane.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: So Shokohasahar was arrested May of ninety five after being
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: found hiding in a wall with one of the cult
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: within one of the cults buildings. I don't know how
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: he fit in it. If you'll look him up, you'll
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, but he fit there. He was
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: charged with numerous crimes murder, attempted murder, production and use
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: of chemical weapons, and the trial, which began in ninety six,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: was one of the longest and most complex in Japanese history.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: He was finally found guilty and sentenced to death in
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four. Wow Yeah. Following his arrest, om
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: Shinrikio was rebranded as a Left in two thousand. So
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: it was going through rebranding yep, so it was rebranded
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: as a Left in two thousand. Despite the call it's
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: name change and efforts to distance itself from its violent past,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: it remains under constant surveillance by Japanese authorities. The group
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: still exists much smaller following, but that other half is
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: still promoting Osahara's teachings. Asahara was sentenced to death by hanging.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: The lawyers appealed the ruling. The court delayed its decision
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: until results were garnered from a court ordered psychiatric evaluation.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: February of six they deemed him fit for trial or
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: at least the sentence, and on March twenty seventh, two
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: thousand and six, they rejected an appeal against the death sentence,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court upheld that September fifteenth, six two
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: other retrials were indeed declined. His death sentence was carried out.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: On July sixth, twenty eighteen, it was announced that Asahara
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: and six other senior Option Rikio members were executed at
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: the same time. Now, the Japanese don't actually give the
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: real dates of execution, that's just when it was reported on.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: His execution brought a sense of closure, yeah, to many
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: of the victims and their families, but that legacy is
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: a dark chapter in Japan's history. A total of one
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine members were indicted, thirteen were sentenced
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: to death, five were sentenced to life. In prison. Eighty
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: were given prison sentences of various lengths, eighty seven received
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: suspended sentences, two were fined, and one was found not guilty.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow. Two thousand. Why thank you Duel Walding for
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: gifting membership. Appreciate that a whole ton and a lot.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: And I'll have to look up who received it. A
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: two thousand and eight law and by the Japanese government
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: authorized payments of damages to victims of the gas attack
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: because the attack was directed at the government of Japan.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: As of December nine, nine, two hundred and fifty nine
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: people have applied for benefits under the law. Of those,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: forty seven out of seventy have been certified as disabled,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: and one thousand and seventy seven of the over eleven
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: hundred applications for serious injuries or illnesses have been certified,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: which is wild, Melissa, Welcome to the crew, Welcome to
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: the vineyard. I think I just made that up. Welcome
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: to the vineyard. So until two thousand and eight, ultimately
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: twelve fatalities resulting from the attack have been officially acknowledged. However,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: in eight a survey of victims was conducted by the
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: Prefectural Police Department Department for the purpose of allocating compensation.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: The survey determined that a man who had died the
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: day after the attack had also been killed by sarah inhalation,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: thereby increasing the officially recognized death toll to thirteen. Another
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: victim who was bedridden for twenty five years since the
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: attack died, and fifty six year old Sachiko Asakawa's death
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: was determined to be hypoxic and soult and ce encephalopathy
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: that sounds fakey caused by second poisoning, so she's considered
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: the attacks fourteenth fatality. So Shoko Asahara's rise from a
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: visually impaired child in rural Japan to the leader of
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: a deadly doomsday cult is a chilling example of how careisma, manipulation,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: and extreme ideology can lead to tragedy. Alm Shinrikio's action
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: shocked the world and served as a stark reminder of
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: the dangers posed by extremist groups. While Asahara is no
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: longer alive, the impact of his actions continues to be felt,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: and this story serves as a tale a cautionary tale
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: about the destructive potential of apocalyptic cults. Am lost its
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: status as a religious organization, I would hope so, and
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: many of its assets were seized. The National Public Safety
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: Commission received more funding to actually monitor the group, so
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: by twenty twelve, the last two folks wanted for the
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: attack were arrested in Tokyo and Kanagawa. The group apparently
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: still has around twenty one hundred members, keeps recruiting new members.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: The group still keeps to Osahara's spiritual teachings despite renouncing
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: the violent crimes, and so it goes on. Yep, Lady
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: in Gray's right. He may be gone, but his group
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: lives on. And that's a rhyme because I'm a poet
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: and didn't know it. That is indeed my case. I
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: know that that was a lot. Thanks for slogging through me,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: but slogging through me, thanks for slogging through with me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fascinating cult.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredibly wild like for it to span that many
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: years of that was amazing. I don't know why I
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: haven't heard I've I've heard of the guy that was
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: in charge. I'm not even going to try to say
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: his name. I'm not gonna remember. Yes, I've heard of him,
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: but I did not know the details really of the
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: extent of his cult and their crimes, and that's just
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: that's just wild for the people of Japan during that time. Yeah, crazy,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: I thought mine was crazy. Well, I mean they're crazy
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: in different ways, you know, they're very in different ways.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: But religion, when taken to extremism, extremism can really be
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: quite wild, harmful, harmful.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: Have I practiced? I Sam asked if I practice, saying
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: that I all of those names. No, not out loud,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: but just having lived there helped. Having lived in Japan
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: for a little while a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so, yes, whack I'm as But let's bring.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: It back, bring whack back, bring back. Thanks everybody for
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  Speaker 2: tuning in just to let you, just to give you
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  Speaker 2: a preview. We got Women on Death Row tomorrow releasing
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  Speaker 2: from here on out. Women on Death Row is going
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: to be leasing releasing on Tuesdays at nine and Friday. No,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: yes and Friday. I think they're both gonna be releasing Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Tesdays be released Tuesdays and Fridays and seven.
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  Speaker 2: When you see credits and it says producer Lama. Look,
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  Speaker 2: it's producer Lama right here. So yes, Tuesdays and Fridays
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  Speaker 2: at seven from here on out, just to make it
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  Speaker 2: easier on the schedule and for for everybody to remember.
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  Speaker 2: Night Court will be coming back October sixth Uh yay,
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  Speaker 2: and I I'm very excited. Our assistant producer Annie is
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: doing a wonderful job putting ideas together. It is going
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: to be, to give you a brief, it is going
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: to be a review of the past week of crime
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: and trials and a preview of the upcoming week with
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: case reports and things like that in the middle, and
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: we're going to have fun while we do it, So
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: we'll leave it at that. So yeah, So it's going
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: to be a brand new format, a brand new style
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: of Night Court. But I think you'll like it, and
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: the crew that is working on it is wonderful. So
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: yay for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 2: Midday Missing on Monday, Monday and Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: And then the transcripts.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. We will continue, Yeah, we'll continue with Sarah Boon
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: letters and then I think another preview. I think we're
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: gonna move into the Delphi Documents, right, I think that's
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: what we're doing next after Sarah Boon. Maybe we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see, and then hey ho shows on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have all the fun yeah.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: The goal is to release Women on Death Row Friday
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: at seven and then have that direct you to the
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  Speaker 2: live chat for Hey Ho show, so you don't even
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  Speaker 2: have to change You don't have to you know, change
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  Speaker 2: the channel, It'll just send you there when you're done.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: So well, I think it's a good time to sign off.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's one of the longer ones
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: we've had in a while. But uh, right before we
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: right before we play the ultro video, I will play
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: two trailers, one for Dearest Mother, Darkest Secret and Women
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  Speaker 2: on Death Row, and then we'll go straight into the oultro,
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  Speaker 2: so we will say tootles at this point, Lama, you've
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  Speaker 2: I do well.
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  Speaker 1: First, I want to just thank our amazing mods tonight,
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  Speaker 1: the best team in all the land for sure. But
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  Speaker 1: So so in hearts al right.
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