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Oh Good, Another List: KeyForge’s New Restricted Cards (Because Fun Was Getting Out of Hand) · Archons Corner

• 0:19
  Speaker 1: He walks said, all right, boys, are we ready?
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you didn't You didn't calculate walk time,
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: which is another between and he does.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: This is why we all go hungry during vault tours too,
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: by the way, like we try to go to lunch
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: and by the time it's dinner, we're able to go
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: eat something.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of going to getting hungry at vault tours,
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: So so Josh, here's one thing you gotta do when
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: the food truck comes. Don't have it come for lunch
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: because we have got an hour. Have it come from
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: dinner when like we're trying trying to like quickly grab
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: a bite.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Wait, what are you guys talking about? Are you talking
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: about like for KFC at Roosevelt? Ye, I can't wait.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: We don't have a vault to it at Roosevelt anymore.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: Dumb dumb, well.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: Whatever KFC like, because that's when we're like hungry and
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: if we leave will miss stuff, right because like you jump,
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: we jump right from the tournament into like whatever that
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: evening thing.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Is top eight. So and then after I see is
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: when we go drinking, jump and jump ball strippers. I
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: like how sheep thinks, well, I sing.
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: You at this word message and I don't see an answer, sir,
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: there's been two business days.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: Did you submit it to Did you submit it to
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: the support link?
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: Because I heard Josh's only answering things on discord that
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: have to deal with that runner.
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: I asked him a question as a Keyboards tournament top
• 1:56
  Speaker 4: eight attendee, not as a did you organized?
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: Did you submit it through the support link?
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: No? Because why? Why? Why is the player okay? Employees?
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: So you're like the same person. We're like, hey, Josh,
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: I want to sell this deck? Was that what it does?
• 2:17
  Speaker 4: I like one of them better, and I won't tell
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: you which one.
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, the one who bribes you for good decks
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: at events. We know which one you like better.
• 2:31
  Speaker 4: You can't afford me?
• 2:33
  Speaker 5: Uh, that's true. We saw c DP wants to pay
• 2:38
  Speaker 5: his folks.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: So yeah, more than one twenty huh m hm for
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: in a quarter?
• 2:45
  Speaker 5: Now for a quarter for.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: A mammon, it's gone. Oh god, damn. Hopefullytion is real.
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: But what's going on?
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? I'm the one, the only the
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: w oh okay? I you joined with the normal cast
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: and miss plits plus another misfit. Starting out, we got
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: the draft score of the Drascore Draz Corps. I think
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: I just said your name three times in a row.
• 3:09
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: This is Drascore, I do the Draz score, and my
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: name is Dras Corps and his name is.
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: Drasor we've got doctor m Sheep now and the Ewokist
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: of Ewoks.
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: Hello, keyboard community.
• 3:27
  Speaker 6: Glad to be here, Glad that it's only costing four
• 3:30
  Speaker 6: and a quorded to stroke some sweet sweet beard.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: I'll only charge you a bucket a quarter can touch
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: my beard for free. My beard, My beard's even more
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: luscious than Mammon's fight words. I mean, have you seen
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: my beard when it gets along? It's very luscious?
• 3:53
  Speaker 5: And then we haven't.
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: That's why we're talking about it.
• 3:55
  Speaker 5: We haven't seen you speak.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: I just saw you on Tuesday, speaking of Mammon problem.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: Mammon into today, fellow e slash Team redacted member or
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: is I like to call it Team redact? Did bruh act? Okay, anyways,
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: we're here to I'm so glad that joke. Yeah, it's
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: not great, but it's time to talk alliance. All the
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: things that were and weren't and now are Is this
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: the shortest I think this might be.
• 4:36
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, we're done, right guys.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: Yeap, what the Alliance? Nobody knows?
• 4:45
  Speaker 5: I do?
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: I do have a short topic before we get into
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: the Alliance update. Well, I guess, I guess I got
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of short topics right quickly. Store Champs. Store
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: Champ season is starting. If you're in the Philadelphia area,
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: come check out games Keeps. We're playing this Sunday, although
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: I guess I don't know when this comes out. Sunday,
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: the eighth Zarkan Sunday, the twenty second is sealed, and
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: we'll squeeze Alliance in someday when you probably can't make it,
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: and maybe they'll just be one deck Alliance or something.
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: But who knows, maybe we'll do Alliance for real. But
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: maybe this conversation will get me pumped up.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: Excited about our alliance event we all.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: Say, do we want to tell everybody how we're running
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: our Star Championships.
• 5:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know if someone were to show up to
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: the games Keep in Westchester on Sunday, what time would
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: they want to be there?
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: We want to be there's good well, good thing.
• 5:50
  Speaker 4: I knew that and asked you.
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: That in our discard, didn't I clearly that clearly? Yeah,
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: you even know what's time to show up for this.
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: It says right there, key forgers our gout store Champs
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  Speaker 3: this Sunday at two thirty p side up for here.
• 6:09
  Speaker 5: Now readings in there.
• 6:12
  Speaker 4: I signed up. I just didn't read to think.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: Readings either fundamental or overrated depending on who you talk.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: Actually, I got a ping folks again, we only have
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: six sign ups so far, so I got arrest dragon eight.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, maybe, guess how many we had at our
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: locals this week?
• 6:28
  Speaker 5: How many you have to guess?
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, so here my guess is
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: your comment. So I'm gonna say it was more.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: What well he counted to three in Spanish. Four Just
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say you had a full eight. We
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: had a full We had a full eight. It was bananas.
• 6:55
  Speaker 5: It was great.
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a full eight. Week are new local
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: that can come every other week, So he's not a
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: weekly attender, but he's in every other week er. You know,
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: he's like a weekend dad, right, he only gets to
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: gets out of the house every other week. Yeah, I
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: mean that's fine, but yeah, we had everybody showed up,
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: and then we we finally ironed out what we will
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: be doing for our store championships. Sheep, how are we
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: running our store championships? Josh, you might want to mute
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: for this one. Actually, we don't care.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: All of our stuff is totally legal. We are not
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: cheating any of our events are ARCon is going to
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: be actual ARCon. Only one person is excited for that,
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: but so be it. We'll put some actual ARCon and.
• 7:47
  Speaker 5: Then listen to them. Who's the one person? Nope, no names,
• 7:51
  Speaker 5: no names, no name for hurting JR.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Now no, it's it's the person who's always wrong. And
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: then we're we're being cheap and we're playing single decks
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: sealed for the Sealed week, so open hot ter, go home,
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: and then the Exciting week is one of our other
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: local stores that does not run key Forge events and
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: has any anything Keyfardge related in years finally put their
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty a away decks on sale down
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: to a dollar fifty a deck, which means you can
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: get a box for like eighteen dollars, nineteen dollars with
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: tax or whatever it was. So that's it. We are
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: every for Alliance week, we're playing one box AOA Alliance.
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: We're going Alliance to the masses.
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: Wow, look, I think we need to do something like
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: we did last year.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: We did what do we do that? We did talk
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: and whoa right dirty?
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: We didn't hit open three pick one of three different
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: sets for sealed, and then I think everyone had to
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: pick at least one, and then Alliance was one top
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  Speaker 4: one low Alliance sealed and then you just had to
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: pick which one got reported because app that's not legal.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we're also for one of our other stores,
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: We're going World's Collide Alliance. Yeah, because I have two
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: boxes of store Champ decks that we never opened, and
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Sydney has at least two boxes of Worlds Collide from
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: the fire sale that has never been opened. So that's it.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: And we're not even gonna charge were just people are
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: show up. We're gonna give what World's Clide deck and
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: we're gonna play.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: I said for the Alliance World's Collide, World Alliance Worlds Collide,
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: you are allowed to take three barb narpods and then
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: just make one deck. Do you have to if you
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: have nine drawn nine toes, maybe that's okay. Yeah, it's allowed.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking that should be a rule zero that
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: if you you are allowed, the only house you're allowed
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: to do it with is.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: If you're unlucky enough to open three.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: Yes and you are allowed, you just guess, I guess
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: what house I'm calling? Yeah, I think that's.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Then somebody's gonna somebody's gonna have the arrest maverick Er
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Legacy rest like.
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: And you're gonna be like, this is the game?
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: Ever, That's what That's what I do, I mister perfect
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: and just clean up my ship and go home, no problem.
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, man and week god theory, do we could
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: do AOA Carl does have AOA for seven dollars?
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Could do like that's not twenty dollars a box which
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: makes it fun?
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: Now yeah, I think we bought him out of World's collide,
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, is there another Pisa?
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: See?
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: But now here's more. Here's what I'm ao and something else.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: We are digging into, like the archives of like what
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: do we have available right and as sets like.
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: Just to mix it up, Like I don't even know.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: If it's to mix it up, because well maybe for
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: your cases, but for ours it's like like I think
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: the only thing we have enough available to even like
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: do like a Sealed Alliance with would be whoa like ours.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Enough amber skies and enough more mass mutation in stuff.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Oh that's true for us to run either of those,
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: but the issue is, like nobody really wants to pay
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars to play Sealed Alliance for either of those sets, right,
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: And that's the problem is Sealed Alliance is fifty bucks
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: for Store Champs, which is you know, like nobody really
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: at least our area, especially since you know, between us
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: and Chicago we have four store Champs, So nobody really
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: wants to spend fifty dollars multiple times to play functionally
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the same events. So that's why we that's why in
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: our area, we're just trying to come up with silly
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: ways to run.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just wondering when, like, because eventually we're gonna
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't know, gr sold out, quick pvs,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: sold out quicker. Well, what happens when we're just like
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: and what sealed product do we got and we're down
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: to like discovery? Yeah, I mean, like I don't like
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: these sharp print runs are like a thing, but it's like, hey,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: let's sell out of the product and then announce a
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Sealed Star Championship. It seems seems like bad planning. I
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: don't know you can.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: You can order Ambertis Guys, g R, End, Crucial Clash.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: I thought was sold out.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Now you can order all three of those from I
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: think King Order g R. What was the one that
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: was sold out?
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: Uh? I don't have an answer to that question, but
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: I did just remember what Draz told me just last week,
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: is about to come to our store, and I know
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: now what we can do for Sealed Alliance, and it'll
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: make me so happy because it'll make Liam so upset.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: No what it is you Carl ordered.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: The order d T.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: It was like, oh, yeah, I got a bunch of
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: and he was like, oh and I think we were
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: out of the DT. So I got a Dark Tidings.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: So I got that. I was like, oh, well, I
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: guess you already did it.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you that was wrong. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: that's the saddest.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, Discovery Elkins, g R, Crucible Clash, Hamber Skies
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: and and Dark Tidings are still available from Ghost Galaxy Direct.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: You could also still get the mid Age and Unchanged
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: as well. If that If that does anything for you.
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know what those are your first folks, You
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: and your store can also do three deck sealed Dark
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Tidings alliance for your store champs.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you too, lose your player.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: That's the best part is Liam's going to be the
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: only one who's truly intent and I know he's not
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: going anywhere.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I keep it.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Blame take that. Yeah, so make sure you guys go
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to your local Star Championships. It will be a good
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: time had by all. Maybe not. I am not one
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: hundred percent sure, King O Black, I don't know having
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: any fun.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, Jenka, and you don't. You will
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: complain for the rest of the night.
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: Yes, there is a high probability that certain combos can
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: show up and it's going to be real, real good.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: But the short bit is for for the cost of
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: just honestly, what four dollars more than a regular deck,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: you're getting a whole box that it's twelve decks to
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: just have fun with. I think it's a great choice.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: Is going to be great, yeah, but even well, but
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: for for us guys, this used to be where we
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: held our locals at the pandemic, and as the pandemic happened,
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: then they shut down the store and now they have
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: multiple other stores, but they just never open back up
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: in our area, and they've held onto the product so
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: that they were a bit stingy. We can say that
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: for giving out prize support. So this is kind of
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: like price support for us. All of these decks at
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: a great price, right, I.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Mean, it's a la twenty bucks box.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: It's about right, it is about right.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Finally, Well, they had been charging I went in there
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: a couple of months ago and they were still trying
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: to charge ten dollars for every single deck, and I
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: just I told them, like, no, no, no, I'm gonna
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: laugh at you that this is not going to go anywhere.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: You're gonna have to lower that one.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Well they did it, and now I think they're gonna
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: sell a bunch because I posted it around some other
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin groups so they could buy it up too.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: No, why would edie.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Because it's fun to open trash and play it, I guess,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: especially when it's that cheap.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: When a state smell of those f FD decks with
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: the scratchy paper cards.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Different a tolf of that ink.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that was back when brobnar smelled bad.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: They actually the cards between their toes, like, yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: It's not this new good that they like to sort
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: of put in in Ghost Galaxy decks.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Alrighty, let's uh, let's go through the Alliance restricted list.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Some things have been added to the Alliance restricted list.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's that they they released this U people.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we you know, we are not Alliance experts
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to the point where when we're like, do we know
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: any Alliance experts? And I was like, oh ma, alliance,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: So I reached out to the.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Middle before we do this.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I got beef.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Got beef when Nick asked me if I could come
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: on this week, or more accurately, asked me if she
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: had already ask me, uh, I just said yes, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I had not finished listening till last week's episode. And
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: then I finished listening to it, only to hear at
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: the very end, oh, well, well, who's a good Alliance expert? Well,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Blaine's in the chat. Oh he said, no, well, Mammon
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: has a beard. I mean you, I mean, well, who's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: the market that we know? And then I didn't come
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: up at all until we're down to default in too
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: facial hair?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean no, lies detected. I don't understand the problem.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: It could have been detected that you didn't even have
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: facial hair. I mean, we could have gone we could
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: have wrong, We could have gone to that low using
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: corregg I can't.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Even imagine you without facial hair, like at this point
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: me either. Yeah, I think next to her, you should
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just become clean shaven.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: What if some take a shave and just like a.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: High fade and pop collar, take a collection. I'll split
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: it with Charity.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Well you heard it here first, Charity at least for
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a quarter now, So what's what's the number we got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to get to? What's what's the.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: At least you just keep telling me the number and
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it's good.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll set up something on dress score dot com.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: So that was your biggest beef after hearing the last episode, Great, guys,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: we did.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really tuned you guys out until I heard
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: my name and then from there it was all downhill.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I'm okay with this.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. We haven't been ourselves lately. Right, we
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: were too nice to too nice to Josh.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I don't see why it has to start now.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: We were too nice nice to uh Luke, right.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: So we should have been like your faces stupid or
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: some wow like a you know, I feel like we
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: have better creativity than that. We'll see where the night goes.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: But anyways, back to the Alliance restricted list. Coming off
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the list are both Chronos and Hellifax. I understand they're
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: separated in two sections. Number one, number one. There is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: why I understand why we have show.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Notes, but this is stupid.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Number one. I feel like nobody cares. Well do we
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: care about Chronos?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Alliance season one was part of the decks
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that really work.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that there are some good mess nutation
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: stuff that was just all speed, like it was just
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: all gas becas of pronus and but good enough anymore.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I know that one's going to be meaningful.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: But that that was at the Yeah, that was at
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: the state where you saw whoa when woe just be dropped. No,
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: but like I think that once you saw woe kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: of see over. The sets after Woe just continue to
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: increase in severity. And I don't think Chronos is anything
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: to worry about.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Is there a potential for a.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: MM resurgence, Well, an MM with UH.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Withros being maybe part of something that's important in furnaces back,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: there's in furness still restricted whatever stealth mode came off, right, Yes, that's.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: What I have.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: What I have?
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: He hasn't gotten to that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to that yet.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: But why that problem is something that might be a
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: thing in World's clide? Right?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Why do I have a problem with stealth mode?
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: So the three cards are Corona's Helifast stealth mode. Great,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Why do you have a problem with stealth.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Mode because it's stealth mode is the same the reason
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we just did all the rod as an arkan the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: same thing, like stealth mode is just they said they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: took an off list due to it not being not
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: being represented. Okay, stealth boat has been played in the past,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but we saw the decks dropping representation as the most
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: recent sets began to rise. You saw it dropping representation
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: because you put it on the restricted list. That's not
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: why you saw it dropping representation. Like they like that?
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: That that is that is.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: The is we put a couple of things on the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: restricted list, and no one was choosing that one over
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the other one. But I'm with you, like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: It stealth mode, isn't it an mm? So don't listen
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to me, it's a world's glide.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: It is a world's clide.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Vaultmaster twenty three, I think yes. But the whole reason
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: for putting stealth mode on there was the same reason
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: we changed cards like ask again later and even then,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: even with stealth mode being restricted, stealth mode still saw play.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's how good it was. But the idea that like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: stealth mode because because it dropted representation, we think it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: okay to take it off. Now you don't even know
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: why you ban the AI writes the articles doesn't matter.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I guess, so they removed stealth mode.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Actually correct, stealth mode was played last.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It was maybe because you limited at one.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Per doesn't matter factually correct.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, it was intended to further increase earlier set
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: usage and a viability. So I mean I guess that
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it is going they desperately need to do, right, Yeah, because.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're just gonna see. But I don't know.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know about the case. But
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, why is key abduction on there?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Because I guess key abduction is just too good?
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because you can cycle for the g R loop
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: with key abduction.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Is it seemed like it was pretty strong.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's limit one because you can already recur it
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: by putting some effort in, so not even needing to
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: do that is where it gets too strong.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, the only other.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: You can still have a good.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Deduction, but you gotta work for I think that going
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: ahead and pulling stealth mode office actually fine. I have
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: no problem with stealth mode being here and having the
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: control that it brings for just.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Against the decks that loop stealth mode every turn.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah I have yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: My big issue with stealth moat coming up is that
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: the reasoning doesn't line up good reasons for other things
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: that they don't like, which is too much at least
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: in the liance like too much just like one sided things.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And that's what stealth mod does is it makes your
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: your alliance game more one sided.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: You know, I agree with that statement right there, but
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: I will tell you I think stealth mode being there
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: with the control piece again, Yes, I have played against
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: stealth mode lockout, but it is recursion in the ability
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: to cycle it, so I'm fine with that. It's the
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: same with control the week at stealth mode being there.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I'm fine.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Sealth mo lot could still yeh, radically lose to PV
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: because PV can still fire. It's you can't place after
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you stealth mode, isn't.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: It also in sept with an A set at least
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: with scrambler Storm.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: No, that is not scrambler Storm. I believe was only
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: was scramblers Storm in the worlds Clyde. I don't believe so.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Because the.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Stealth mode was in World's Collide and then it is
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: in VM.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, scrambling where a scrambler storm scrambler storm.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: If you look at Carl Dex with stealth mode and
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: scrambler Storm in them, there's only thirteen.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: They're all legacy scrambler storms.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so but there are thirteen of them in
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: what sets? Though, I feel like that matters.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: That's a world Yeah, there's a couple something not important.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: What's this circle with a star set? Oh yeah, un
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: chained So yeah, that doesn't.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Matter, right and hall ofFast coming off the list. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: don't know if this actually makes a difference anywhere.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Hella Fast was like that was that card where there
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was a lot of talk to a lot of people
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, this card is going to break the game,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and there was a lot of I know there's a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: lot of pushback about it during play testing, and I
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: was like, I mean, it's real good and it nceealed.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It is very very on fun to play against somebody
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: who's got a hall of fast and you didn't. But
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it did never feel like totally arc on broken. It
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: was definitely like very on balance feeling and an average sealed.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: I vaguely recall the reason that got put on the
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: first only as restricted list was because uh the what
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: was it? Perserker? Uh? Or no, never mind, that's why
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: the uthfrade was on the There was also some good
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: hol S text, yeah, the fof but I think the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: healths was also just like making that even better the
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: looping infinite perserkers. Yeah, but I mean that's not a
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: problem anymore, Like nobody cares the whole now every change.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: To me, it just reads basically as everything almost everything
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: that was a problem is not a problem can't compete
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: with Yes, we've redefined the word problem in this context.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Now it has a v behind it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: That's it's almost a question if they even need restricted
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: lists for older sets. But I don't know enough to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: say that's true.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: But I mean it is one of those things where's
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: like there are only a few combos and pods that
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: not that exist as much as are accessible, that you
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: could piece those together at this point, right, Like a
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: lot of those people don't play, don't answer messages, or
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: don't have the decks anymore, and so like can you
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: even attain them? Like there are more options, but can
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you get them? I would, I would dare even say
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: it's worth a give it a full season with nothing
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: fift be restricted and see what happens kind of situation
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: or at least nothing specifically targeted in that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Sounds like my.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like it will be interested to see if
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: with these off the list, if you ever see any
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of these, I don't know, right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Maybe you will.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not connected to the alliance party.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: So you guys, most most of you were in the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: house where I built my alliance the night before, like
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you know how this works.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Together?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll find out at the same time as you do.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I mean I was drinking at the time, so I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: was a really super paying attention to what you were doing.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: So maybe there was science. Who knows a little bit.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Of that was the old ADHD kicking in that we
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: were talking about earlier. It was like, look, if I'm
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: not four hours away from the deadline, when no work
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: is going to get done. So what we're going to
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: do is start brewing this at midnight and but born
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: in the morning, I'll have to go a bet or
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I won't be able to read the cards the next day.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Well well, so, I mean, yeah, I have fun coming
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: up with combos, but like one's largely Keymander focused, so
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not looking at like restricted lists and stuff. But
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: none of these things really stood out to me. Actually, no,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: the added cards a little bit, but not not the
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: ones removed, Like I didn't look at those. I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: they should have been removed because I didn't see any
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: of them being like a real problem currently.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Yep, I think the biggest one in question is stealth Mope.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: But I like that it's removed. I think gives different
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: options that are available. So we talk boys in regards
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: to what we see for the what's been added.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Strategic Fate and Reiteration have been added to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the list. Reiteration kind of caught me, not necessarily caught
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: me off guard, but uh, only adding those two kind
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: of shocked me. And this make sure I got my
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: alliance the you know, blasphemy rolls down. This means that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you can have either reiteration or a strategic faint, but
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: not both of them, right, correct, Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: And I think both were any number, right.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, both are both are any number.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: But I think what's more interesting is that the two
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: cards added from PV, Reiteration and Strategic Faints both come
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: in at the common slot, and so now all of
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: a sudden, you actually have a number. Like it becomes
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: easier to find those pods, but also it's a little
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: bit more of a limiting factor with eliminating other pods,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: because that card may show up on one and you
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: don't want than the other.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: House.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: Now, I think that Star Alliance really got absolutely hammered
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: with the updates that we talked about last time. So
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: maybe maybe Star Alliance is not our biggest issue anymore.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: But I'm curious to see how.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Kind of surprise Okay, so you take off, well, I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: guess I guess they had to, because the one that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: kind of I was surprised to see was recompense. Although
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: it's a rare I don't know how many double cosmic
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: recompenses are floating around out there, but I guess if
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you were going to take off stealth mode, you couldn't
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: really add recompense then, could you, because then now it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense downgraded, which they did.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: But I think the idea is saying you can either
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: do discard control or the turn control that the Star
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Alliance faces do and instead of hitting like, you can't
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: do Reiteration and Rage recent together because that's just too
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: many pods for this is too much. Logos has any
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: one common and uncommon together, so you had to hit one.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: They went for the more common one, right, and then
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: it is more impactful, right, And the same thing for
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the Star Alliance, where it's basically just saying like you're
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: probably going to have one of these in your pods
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: of that house, so you're either leaning into your Star
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Alliance force you to play this house, force you to
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: play this or can't play this type of card type control,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: or you're leaning into the Logos discard your hand control.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I think that's the idea.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I hear that looking at Alliance Worlds their top ten cards.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Reiteration was number one, Yeah, Strategic Fate was number six,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and two was Gift of Amber, three was Rage Reset
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: fours and for as five is traumatic, echo six is
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: strategic thing an actrocity, infinity, strop wild wormhole and in
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: here somewhere. So looking at how to actually impact the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: number of dacks and what's getting played, I mean taking
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: away a gift to amber.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Atrost is actually crazy to hit that list because it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: limit won.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Like everybody was playing it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it also doesn't matter anymore because they
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: nerved it so hard, so they didn't need that one.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And again there is a potential, like you know, maybe
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: maybe they're thinking because with how nerve atrocity was in
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: some ways, that might make the dispods not even as attractive,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: so the gift of amber Echode doesn't matter as much.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But I I don't know, it's probably I still think.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I still think here, I actually think there'll be some
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: odds that weren't considered because they didn't have atrocity that
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: might actually get a step up that people were ignoring.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: But so you look at the thing, it's either so
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: reiterations number one, so you pick that and then you go,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you know what else was played? A ton of is
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: like you were picking like Star Alliance was only picked
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: for strategic faints, right, Everything else that was in Starallans
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: was whatever, like maybe it has a recompens or too,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: and maybe a couple of gleaming, but they were being
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: picked for strategic faints.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think this is the center of it
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: being a common, right, Like if any any one of
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: those three was the common, it would be that one
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: because they're all good control. So yeah, whatever the reason.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Thing I think the commons were hit to just basically
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: say you have to be extremely, extremely creative to find
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: a viable combination of these two houses, no matter what
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you're thirty.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Thing is, I think that is the key right there,
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: because you're looking at the cards that are on this
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: list for PV PV dominated Alliance. So you're looking at
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: PV showing up in ghost form, PV for in Furnace,
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: which is at common that's important for your diss. You
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: then have PV for Jersey no one really cares that rare.
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: You have PV that's coming in at reiteration, which is
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: logos for common, and strategic feint for common at Star Alliance.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: So now all of a sudden, you've hit three of
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: the houses at a common slot, and it's really difficult
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: to find a pod that you're going to be able
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to because you can't have multiples, like you can have
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: multiples of one of those cards, but not cross and
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: so you are like by putting that three houses that
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: you would expect to see, it drastically has an impact
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: on the build set up. That's what I think they
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: were looking at. But again without getting into their mind,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: we don't know. It's theory or conjecture at this point.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Street my own horn here, but I think you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: with a little more luck and a little less ask
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: again later, my world's build had a pretty good chance
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: and is still legal. And maybe if i'd started planning
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: it and didn't use I think two pods that I'd
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: never touched before that day, maybe could have done a
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: little better.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Was anybody else surprised not see ask again later on
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the list. I was wondering if it was.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: The fact that they they changed it, and yeah, a prophecy,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: that would be tough.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: There's so many decks.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Why would a prop I.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Mean, I don't understand it doesn't limit then, yeah, because
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: you don't have to use or you're not using the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: prophecy from all three decks. The pod isn't necessarily out,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: but a lot of pods are selected because huz of
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: their prophecies, maybe over odds with better cards because it
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: makes the deck function better. And yeah, ask again sucks
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: and it's the worst one. But it feels like hitting
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: any of those options of the set mechanics is just
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: it's too much.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know with with the timing
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: window change for us again later.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I also disagree with that errata. The correct answer
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: was it fires when you guess correctly and just basically
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: it has the chance of it succeeding. That was the
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: correct errata. What they did was buff a bunch of
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: cards and mildly nerve, rage, reset and reiteration fates.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Well what it really hit was the Star Alliance, uh,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: cleaning the cube right, that that's the one that really
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: messed with. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't work anymore, right because
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: you pick your.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: House after whether that's crazy?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Gleaming gleaming the cube uncommon from Star Alliance with an
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: amber pip action, play ready and use a friendly creature fate,
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: discard the top card of your deck. The discarded cards
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: house becomes your active house.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you choose them out the house.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Is Uh, all right, mamon.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: So we we've been debating.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: We had the debate also in the Patreon channel of
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: our discord. Do you think Ask Again Later should remain
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: a six or do you think it should be downgraded
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: to a five?
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Oh? It's a six still six?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, there's a lot of bit back and forth.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: It's a six because a few things went down, but
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: a few things went up. Just because you have to
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: rethink how how you're building with it a little bit
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean that it's not still a very good time window.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: That triggers too much. Just it works with different dates.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Now, I do still think just the efficiency being the
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: same as massive.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Like the deck's got better because of that arata,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and I don't think that was the intent, but.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: The good decks got worse, and the decks that got
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: better aren't good enough. So it's a five, and you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: guys will learn I am correct. I need time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say I would need time to be
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: proven on that that point, because.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could be proven wrong, but yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure of myself.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: The things that got better are not necessarily improving the
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: deck as much as they are improving control which then
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: lowers the balance with your opponent's deck. So like, I
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: think they got better in a different way. But well,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I mean we have to see regardless, just man hitting
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that that buffo for the third key when your opponent's
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: about towards there is gonna feel bad flipping that maybe hit,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: especially now that it's look based. Yeah, I mean like
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: it feels it feels bad for the player who gets
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: it or yeah, or the person who guess our feels
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: bad for the person who put it under there and
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: then doesn't hit it. It's it's just it's the game
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: winning on Functionally, a coin flip is bad. That is
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: just when it's just in your favor or in the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: in the the active players.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Favor correct and then you don't have as much.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: But it's still not that is not that is is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: just bad. That's not it's not good. It's not good
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: game design. It's not good strategic anyway. It's just garbage.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, it exists that it does. Yeah, I think
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: TV will will still be pretty hot. I mean, we
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: see some interesting DM stuff, but I don't know that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: it's gonna hit the top maybe a couple of decks
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: by the end. But this isn't the one, so we'll
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: just have to see what happens. But I I floated
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: an interesting suggestion to Josh while we were talking at
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Echo that instead of full set rotation, you could do
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: something as simple as the set that that wins each format. Well,
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: I guess not sealed, but our Connor Alliance is just banned.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: That set is banned for the next season, and.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: You take one day off pissed off when you're like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: my good deck is you know, like my one good
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: deck is PV or or something weird like Amber Skies,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and then some jerk wins with Amber Skies, and now
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, well, I don't get to play my deck.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, for for one season, and then you.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Time that's a long Yeah, that's a lot.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: All refuse to do anything with less than a year.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: So I can't. I can't make that happen faster.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: But now I get what you're saying.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's still like, so if something
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: other than PV gets banned, it means that's something BEATPV.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: But do we really want to go ahead and band
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: it for less? So we start in Portland. Portland goes
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: ahead and opens up with PV. That means then when
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: it comes to these coasts, you don't get to play PV,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: Like that's an East coast West coast component too.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: No, you're saying whatever wins World is banned for.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: I understand.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: But the statement was if I could shorten it, and
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: so that's the next option that if we shortened it,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I think it would make it even worse. And that's
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: unfortunate because you can't.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: Do that competing involved, because you're just brobbing a different
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: crowd of up coy.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I think they should just reimburse us for PV and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: be like, Oh, that didn't happen.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Bro that money already spent you're talking about. So it
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: sounds like a great business idea.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'll take a hundred bucks and you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: can have my PV decks back.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, I, for whatever reason, I just didn't
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: open anything good in PV, and I didn't really have
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: the desire to do the ARCon hunting that I was
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: doing for gr and then I was doing an Amber Skies.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Just because I wasn't getting the vibe.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember, like when you when you can't
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: buy sheep for deca, you're like, oh, maybe I'll borrow
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: what are your pvs? We'll show me your TV lists
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I showed you. You're like, why do all these decks suck?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. I don't know, dude. Sorry,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: He's like, I don't want to borrow any of these.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, sounds sounds about right.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I mean. The craziest thing is still about that is
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: sass rate. Some of these so high, and it's like, yes,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: deck is not that awesome.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're you're one hundred and seven nothing.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Seven nothing that I opened from this week, like one
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: hundred and seven, And like the cards editor are fine
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and they're not bad there, some of them are pretty good.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: But like, no, I know what that issue is. That's
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: because cards have extra points because they have two different effects,
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: and I don't think it's properly weighing that when on
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: a deck cycle, barring any recursion, you're not getting both
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: of the effects. But now a B plus card has
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: three points or a point and a half for the
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: fae and a point and a half for the play.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: But there are games where I'll never see both of
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: those or even have the unity to see that card twice.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Right, But it's.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: It's weighing it as if I would rather than weighing
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: this is the score that this would have. This is
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: the score that this would have, and then we're reducing
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: them by both of them by a percentage because you're
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: not going to get both off every time.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: My issue my deck was the fact that like the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: deck actually probably was was probably really really good as
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: long as my opponent doesn't fuck with my creatures, right,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: as long as they don't touch my touch my my pretties.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: A lot of keyboards decks are good when you just
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: have your features out there.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Don't touch my ship and I'll win, all right, but
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: not a lot.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: To touch like features. I'll play coda, I win, I'll win.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So that that's Suffocators rocking right.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: It's just it was one of those things where it's like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: all right, I got a thing going, and then it
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was like, and I'm going to clear the board. Sticky.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I think sticky creatures might be amber Skies. That might
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: be the set that ones with sticky creatures. I like
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: my like amber Skies and some Sky's decks that I like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: but they don't they don't play from hand enough and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: then they die and then you cry, yeah, well yeah,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: it might still actually creatures that can't get destroyed. It
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: might still be TV because the creatures in TV are crazy,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: but the sea is high enough that it doesn't matter
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: generally that, you know, like all those semi crazy logos,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: creatures don't last long enough to to do crazy things.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I had double Marcella triple uh, triple scrot them,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because none of the Marcella's, you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: none of it matter. Yes, Imperial scrot them.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: He had a couple of stew.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any faults, no, but somebody had.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I had to kill him.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I had a YOUNGUS but it was like yeah, at
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: one point, like my, my, my Marcella's were like six
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: power two armor and it was just and they just died,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: just like power power is so meaningless of this game
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: nine times out of ten.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: So we had eight players. We had two TV and
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Amber Skies players, right, yes, and one.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: And that.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And then Pete came and I made him play the
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: d M deck that I won for going three. Oh
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: it had sleepy dragons in it because Pete didn't get
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to go to KMC. So I've been saving this deck
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: for him to be able to play it. So he
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: played his three games. He forged two keys, all theme.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: He had the sleepiest dragons. Yes, no, no, that's my
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: good d am deck. Melt the I won right for
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: that deck, winning three times. They gave me another one right,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: and that's the one I let. It was still sealed.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever played it. It was the first one to
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: experience it, and by the second game he was like, oh,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I should give this back to you. I'm like, oh, no,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to keep that one. I don't
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: ever want to see that again. So my second DM deck,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: which had the Sleepy Dragons in it, is now in
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Pete's piles because it's a stinker.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and some of the decks can do things. We
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: saw that with your deck, and many other decks just
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: do not do anything.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Guys getting I'm getting my face picture worth of sleepy dragons,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: so please.
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: Please, but no, no, this is this is the thing.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: There are some decks that can really do some magical things.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: It just is a high percentage that will not do them.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: And then they're gonna.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna need you to spend the next six
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: months not thinking I have a face picture's worth of
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: sleepy dragons, but I my face picture will be in
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: shattered realities. True, maybe I'll just be in the really
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: cool set.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I just can't wait for the reality cards, which are
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: a lot like prophecies but not right. Nothing will go
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: wrong there because we'll just start, We'll just I have this, like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I have this crazy hunch that like reality is that
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: you're going to be playing games that are going to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: change the rules of key Forge. Don't ask me why,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: but I just get that feeling.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're playing flex Forge.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's exactly like when I keep hearing it
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and I keep thinking, that's exactly that is exactly like
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: how I feel like it's going to be. It is
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be flux Forge. Do we all think that Luke
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: enjoys flux Yes?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh god, are you're just saying that they heard him?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: No?
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I mean I could, I could, I could see it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: All right, boys, we've talked a little bit about, uh,
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: what's on the list. There's a little chat in regards
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: to what potentially should have been on the list.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I still think should have been on the list.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: So you say, ask again later anything else standing out
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: that you guys think should have been on the list
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: that really has been an oversight or that is kind
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: of like why is it not on the list?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I mean honestly, before we had this conversation, I was
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: like surprised to see reiteration and not rage reset. Now
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: that you guys talked me through how this blasphemous format works,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I see, if you had both both,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: then you know you.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Just ever be playing a logo spot right, Like, how
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: are you gonna properly send? Uh?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: It is still possible, Well, you can.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: You can still have both, you just can't have strategic
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: fate with.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: It, and it really limits the pods.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: No, yes, I now have one of the best logos
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: pods if you if you no reieration pod is is
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: pretty strong.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: Now I'm saying that if you had put rager set
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: on along with reiteration, that would you would correct That's
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: what it meant. So by putting one on and not
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: the other, you are saying it just means you could
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: pick it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Back with both, which isn't that big of a deal.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: Actually, I think that's harder, Like having the common and
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: the uncommon in logos makes it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: There's the knocks out a handful of pods for sure,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: but it's very high up. But it's not it doesn't change.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think it changes the way you build alliances
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: meaningfully as as what they did.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: That's one of those frustrating components when you can when
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: you just have a Rhindo world, when you have a
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: random car that gets like tosses your whole pod because
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: it's now on the list, but you don't care about
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: it or you don't care as much about it, Like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: that's just frustrating. So having two cards from the same
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: set and potentially from the same house, that's.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: For me only only two. The top two decks were
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Logo Star Alliance.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: And what why is that? What else was there?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Then it was Dislogos Untamed Yes, and then it was
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that grim Reminder stats so we don't talk about that,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and me I was the wonky one with dis Logo.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Soare in so all? Why is brile coup blocks still?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Like why do we still allow this? That was the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: question that I had on there.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: I thought that why because your pons probably playing for
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: TV and they have a way to remove it without
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: even playing.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: A carden well and at top Ford and one one
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Vault tour. Does that make it worth banning showed a
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: couple of times. I mean it's not dominating the scene.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: Good Once again, if you look at gr gr's Jervy
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: gr is Key, abduction, gr when to death, but like
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: Brile Coup, in my opinion, one of those should have
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: definitely been on there.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Even then, what about you know, I mean where we're
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: talking some of the other things that allow stupid things,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you know, island to misfit toys somehow still not on
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the list.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, gr GR showed up between the two events, which
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: is what there's thirty seven players. G R only showed
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: up and is only four dacs out of how many
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: out of the thirty seven? Right because there's twenty four,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: one and thirteen and open.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Wait why is Drew?
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: But but you're talking KFC, and so the short bit
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: is is that KFC at that point TV had completely
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: taken over, like I just and so that's why why
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: do we.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: About addressing sets that show up as ones and twos
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: and don't win it like just let them be.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Well they're showing up ones and twos. Is because because
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: when you have a set that's so much stronger, but
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: but now you've but now you've neutered the stronger set,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: so you need to.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: I agree with what. I don't know, it's adjusted.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It has been favorite thing adjusted.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: It's been.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not full.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Top Worlds is still totally playable.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a good handful of people that were also
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: leaning into Untamed in their designs, and uh, none of
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: what I was seeing with that is touched by this
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: list at all. The only thing that is Atrocity, But
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: like there's.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Other invigorating shower, the two.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: More one punk Punksion with windrow and shower to keep
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: it going. But like, the only builds in that sense
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: that are touched by this at all are the ones
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: that we're gonna try to recur atrocity and that you
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: just recurred different Untamed Pit Monstrosity.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, atrocity was some disruption. I don't know it was.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how how the atrocity change plays an
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: actual play yet, because I have not played any games
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: now that atrocity has a different effect.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: I only think that that Errata was overkilled because it
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: doesn't change the fact that it's limit one. Like that
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: effect means it doesn't need to be limit one as
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: a play effect. But you can't change that now, right
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: because of the way it was initially designed. I mean,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: you can't just go back and add that to decks.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: So like it's overkilled in the sense that you you
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe if ever reprinted it wouldn't be
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: but like as is in PV, not that I'm marketing
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: PV needs to be stronger, but like, yeah, it's basically
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: nothing now yep, Like I'm in furnace used to need
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: to be recurred to be a problem, and it was
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: possible and doable, and like that's the sense you get
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: from the errata and it's just not set up to
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: do that because you don't have you can't have three
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: of them in your deck to make it easy enough
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: to recur them that you actually see them again.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that they learned that flipping a card
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: off the top of your deck and doing something is
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: not something that's not a mechanic you should be using.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: For yeah, it's out of turn sequence that has an
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: impact on the game.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Well too, but but just the random.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Is Yeah, like they find for like a gambling den lark,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: you know, but don't like, don't put it on.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I will put.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: And say, uh, Wild Wroomhole and Mercurial Wormhole are very
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: good cards and very fun cards that do lean into
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: the random aspect, So I'm more inclined to agree with
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: them in the sense that it's out of turn order,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: it's on the opponent's turn, and it affects what they're doing.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: The randomness cards that things can be fun if you.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Would recall I have a wage a one man more
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: against Wild Wormhole if you a long time, because it's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: that exactly, is such a garbage mechanic for win it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Most of the time it's just a little efficiency plays
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: a random card doesn't. But when it makes that big
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: swing and just totally swings a game on random top deck,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: it's like, it's a fun story once in a while.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: But to actually win and lose games because.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Of that is just like, but you have just the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: same in my ass, Well, I disagree.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: I think I think that you can do it because
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: it's on your her and and yes, it really bites
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: you in the butt when you have that's played against you,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: But for the most part, you know what, it's a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: low probability of hitting.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: My only chance of winning this game is a wild
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: wormhole my miasthma. I did it, Yay, I won because
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: of that. It's like you just wild wormhole into twenty
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: two cards and you got the one you need. And
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: it's like, I mean that happened. Cool, cool, that's.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't have a problem with that happening
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: off my turn.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: It's a similar if you weren't wild wormholing the miasthma,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: you could have just drawn it instead. Like it's still
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: just look at the drawing type thing. Just because it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: a different card that that's giving you an extra amber
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: and playing another card doesn't actually change it because you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: have no control over the card that's playing most of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: the time. Like you could have just drawn that masthma.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: You had an equal chance of drawing that and the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: wild worm hole.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: But if the maasthmas, if you don't have any if
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: it's a last out ditch effort, which I think is
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: what Sheep's saying, it's frustrating that that's what the game
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: is won or lost.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: There there is quite a bit of this game where
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: your last turn is like, well, the only way I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: win is I'm on the draw right, and you're like,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: gonna use your drop it or your random draw effect,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and you're like, and if I draw the one card
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: and I can play it, and wild wormhole is more
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: of an X factor on that because it just plays
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: the card. So it's wins and losses. I don't know.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I don't like it. I don't like I don't like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: how that card and it's dumb randomness.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Is what it is.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: I am fine doing dumb in the us self.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Not no, because that dumb randomness affects both players. You're
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: not doing it to yourself. You're my whole game.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: I'm perfectly fine gambling on the very final.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: And tell me, have you had an incredibly sick we
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: wormhole play but you lose anyway because you were that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: far behind, Like, it's just I don't feel like it.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: It's the winner lost enough to have that feels bad
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: in factors, that.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Has cards that win and lose because you wild worm
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: hole on them.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: So but then because you knew you could lose yourself.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: It's more it's.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: When if you hit and lose because you were losing anyways.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you can.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: You can like it all you want.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I have always talked ship about wild Wormhole because that's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: a level of randomness that I it's just over the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: edge of what I enjoy in this game in meaningful
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: competitive play, and TV is a big flex of just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: doing more of that garbage.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can get behind the hate on that,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: but I do have great news for you about logos.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: Anytime now, we're gonna get dark wild Wormhole, dark Hole, I.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: Don't know my instead of please do not play dark.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: You gotta smell it.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: If they make that card, we're just going to call
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: it a stink call and it's gonna be awful.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: No, we're not gonna call it the stink call. We're
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: just gonna call it. Yes, Yes, we are the holes
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: chocolate styfish.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: This is why this card should never be made.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: My issue with the prophecies is the timing window that like,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: you have so much that's impacting you in your turn,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: and that's where I have an issue with the randomness.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: I have no problem doing it on my own turn,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: but if it's done off turn and then it has
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: an impact, it just it has a very different few
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: to me, and I don't I understand why, but that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: that's more frustrating that.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Did the same thing, but I had to play it
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: on my turn. It wouldn't make a difference.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: No, because because it's if you're going hot and doing
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: it on your turn. Okay, there's a random shot, it
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: hits as a random shot, it doesn't. But the chance
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: where now I have more better than a coin flip
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: that it's going to negatively impact me, which is what
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: the fate is? Is what the what our fates are
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: going ahead and impacting the prophecies here. That's that's a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: real frustration point.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And no, I don't just read play your opponent's not
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: allowed to play cards next turn. That's okay, that is
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that's a card.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: We have all the cards that do that.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's better, yes, but.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: If I like but if it is, but if it's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: wookie flip a coin heads or tails, yeah, if you
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: guess wrong, now you don't get to put any cards.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: That's the much better face. I I you call this
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: house and then this card is gonna go off and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: then you ain't gonna do stuff.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: And I think that is what you will see.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying, like the idea of just the randomness
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: for flipping and determining, especially at a higher probability that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: it's going to happen. It's a feel bads moment for
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: most people when it's played.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, I as someone who enjoys the concept of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: pv OR, do really like the idea of the face
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: like it's I understand that the major complaint of like,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: people don't like that something is interacting on their turn
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: in a game that doesn't traditionally do that. I actually
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: like that part. I do think the randomness of it
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: triggering is the thing where.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: It's like rgering.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: You don't know what the things.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: You can't do anything about it. It's not if it were.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: If it were when you play a creature to the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: top card and whatever, then I cannot play the creature
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: like I can play around the existence of the randomness, correct,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: but asking it just forces the randomness. That's where that's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: the problem is that there's nothing to play around. Yep.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what the timing window changed. Now it's functionally
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: like they played it on their turn, You're going to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: make all your decisions.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, from the affront to that card, I just and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: another complain I have about that is really that it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: I would have preferred that it came, it kept the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: the same phase or the same like general area, because
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: that's part of what made ask again unique is that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: it came after the start of turn, after the forge
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: a key specifically, and you can make it still do
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: that and before you choose the house and keep that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: unique timing window. But what they did was just give
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: it the same timing window as several other prophecies that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: are already good with that timing window, not only changing
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: how a bunch of cards work with it, but also
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: just making it less unique and interesting at all. It
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: was the only one of two fates that had that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: choose a house timing window right or no. Three or
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: prophecies I think three, and I mean they're all good,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: but like you, you can make it happen before the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: house is chosen.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it changes a fect weird choice, but.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: This is Yeah, this changes more of the nature of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: the cart itself than than just the discard prophecies that
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: were the problem. But hey, I don't make the rules.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: No, but if you'd like to, I heard GG is
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: looking for a game. The chat is telling you're wrong.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: And the only other thing that fires at the same
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: time as al now is stars aligned. Because everything else
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: is end of turn.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Stars aligned is beginning a turn after after house is
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot after house, right, Well there's the.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a after house is called, or after
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: a house that has nothing in play is called.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: There was the you know, yeah, the one where you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: declare a house and then if they pick it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, after a house is called, specific house is called,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: or after a house is called that has no cards
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: in play, there's one that does that, and then al
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: all three of those were the same time, means well,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: now al was right before that or no, after you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: call house. Yeah, all those were right same time or
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: similar enough.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the other ones. You just have uh
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: a way to play around it. I gets its.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it was. It was yes, like they picked
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: a thing, and to some effect you had the ability
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: to be like, I don't want that to trigger, so
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I will not call the house they picked, or I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: will call a house that there's a garden play, assuming
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: you have that choice mm hmm.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: And you just get to watch Liam's face as you
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: don't play an entire house for a whole game, and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: it's honestly feels great.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that does happen. I have had that happen
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: My favorite move is not playing creatures for a whole game.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am also a fan of that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Uh many times I want a stealed store champ by
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: doing that last.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Year, there you go could happen again. Then just a
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: few weeks I.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: Put a two atomic distabilizers of this pres that they've
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: never played another one again when he just supported them.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: To the little confirmation conversation I had with Sydney, you know,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: because she's actually looking at doing some Alliance stuff, because
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: she's going to go play in an actual Alliance Store championship.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: You know, are not chasing that. But she has been
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: trying to build with the new al timing and has
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: not found like the buffal route to be It's it's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: not consistent enough to be a winning strategy, like to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: be like, oh I get to win because I'm going
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: to forge my third key before you lot a coin flip.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: I haven't talked here about it, but if it's anything
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: based on one of her previous builds, there was a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: lot of un tam piffs floating around, which does reduce
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: the ability of ask again to fire. That'll that'll take
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: some some tweaking and stuff.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: That just means, well, I think I think you're just
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: gonna see is that? And it was even happening to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: some extent in alliances people who are using ask again
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: were coming to the conclusion, and I was definitely one
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: of them where I'm like, although very powerful, the fact
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: that I can't make sure it happens when I needed
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: to happen makes this not quite good enough. It's too
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: coin flippy. And to truly be a great deck that
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I know I can win games with consistently, I need
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: effects that I can count on, that effects that I'm
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: hoping work.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: It's fair. Hey you have a whole nother propcy card
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that's it. I mean like, certainly, if
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I was to uh have to build another awful alliance
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: for some reason, I would not be taking an al Bot.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I would be.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I also, I agree with I agree with Flightless Pheasant
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: in the chat you want to win with Boufo it's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: stars aligned.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Stars aligned. That's not as guarantee as.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: You not want to. Like, yeah, you think it is.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: There's not enough C, but no, there's actually quite a
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: bit of C. There's more than you give it credit for.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: When I was playing Aligned becomes the target meta here
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: for TV, then well it's going to come back and forth.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: And stars stars aligned is one of those things where
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: it's like it's kind of set dependent, right, like heavy
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: creature sets. Yeah, it's gonna be tough to pop Stars aligned.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: But like in all of my games that I played,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I did not have really too much trouble have making
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Stars aligned go off it. I think stars aligned takes.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: More aligned specifically, like creature heavy builds are not usually
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: the goal here.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so not only really not only on top of that,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: like it's yes, it takes more different metas for self
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: discipline and not be like I'm in a board flood,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: you know, to be like nope, I really I need
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: this to go off, So I Am going to hold
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: back and maybe discard things that you traditionally would play
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: to get the value. So it Stars a line just
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: takes a lot more discipline than than anything else.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: I think if you're playing other cards and potentially sacrifices
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: of certain things to pull off, which makes it a
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: good strong effect, makes it more balanced if you have
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: to sacrifice a creature because you need to even the board,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: or you know, blow up some of your own creatures
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: fighting there or waste their us is fighting stuff off
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: the boards just so that it can trigger. That's where
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: the bouncing comes in, is that it's.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: Work right, But those are those are resources that you
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: have to use your see or you're gonna be fighting
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: instead of reaping, which again is a losing proposition. And
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: instead I can just trust your feelings, which is what
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: you guys have been talking about. When a card is
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: placed under trust your feelings, name a house, it's okay, Well,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: now you can't go into that house, or it's going
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: to go off. And certain deck, certain decks need to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: go into a house, and so trust your feelings is
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: a much much better choice as a prophecy.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think a or stars aligned is it's good.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I like, I like the card, but I don't think
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: it's again, it's not reliable enough because you don't know
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: when you're gonna sit down against somebody who is playing
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: a board flood deck, and you will never fire it
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: because you cannot keep up with the number of creatures
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: are playing, and you will never fire stars align.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: The way the game well, essions about how many decks
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: are sitting in an alliance right now, Here's but.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: Right now post I played post band lists more. Yeah,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: you'll write, having had a few conversations about aligance stuff
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: before worlds with people that actually do a lot more
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: active building. The biggest thing with finding the perfect pod
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: versus just a really good pod is that you are
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: not only working off the stars aligned, but maybe the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: back of it is asking again so that if you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: can't get your well was so if you can't get
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: stars aligned to trigger and that's your main like consistent
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: triggering prophecy, Now all of a sudden you just flip
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: it to the two thirds one where if you're gonna
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: go against the flood deck and not be able to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: start as align more than two thirds of the time,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: well you slip it to the one that's guaranteed to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: go more or less that number. Wow, right, like that.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I never had.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: That's part of the alliance building. It's definitely a thing.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: An alliance is finding a set of prophecies that will
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: do what.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: You Yeah, there was definitely talk of this pod is better,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: but the prophecies on this one are perfect and it's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: only so much worse, And like, what what's the better call?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Because I think the efficients honestly half the value from
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: prophecies at least is the efficiency right? A big part
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: of my argument later still being an alliance, you just
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: discard cards so much, but less than alliance because you're
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: optimizing your pods to have at least for TV. You're
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: probably aiming to have most.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Things have some sort of fate effect, so that you're
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: not just discarding even if that's like what you would
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: be doing normally. Now it's a thing like that's yeah,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent of our coon
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: alliance because you're optimizing, it's less of that.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you just maybe don't have as much it does something.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: Where was unity prism on the list?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Not impactful enough problem?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's a good.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Card because it's it's a rare, right.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: No, it's uncommon?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Is it uncommon?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, there's at least one pod with three of them
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: in there. I was looking at that for a while.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: King of Blake was getting that all wrong. On the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: last h FF he was like, he's getting all the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: rarities wrong, right, I.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Thought you I thought unity prism was a rare If
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: that's what I thought, it was a rare too, So no.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get stuff wrong all the time.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, you do look because I do.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Now it's uncommon. There's definitely good pods with doubles and
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: stuff in there. And I was doing the punk, so
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: I was looking for that too.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: The unity prism.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: That I.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: When I when I saw unity prison being used is
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: just as a scrap effect. It's not for its play effects.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Just an amber pushing card, yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe, but other than that, something that makes two.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: To three amber, they're not going to put on a list.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't see it. It's just there's so much stuff
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: that makes more amber than that that why would that
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: ever make a list? Yep, Like making the amber is
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: just an opportunity for your opponent to take it.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, until there exists a way to guarantee have that
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: turn one.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's thick. There is are the stuff that needs
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: to be each eats and that you can't cards are
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: the things that yeah, those are those are the things
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: that real starch. Because if you make a bunch of amber,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: but I have an opportunity to stop you, then that's fine,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: right then you have to play high amber control. If
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: amber push is one of the current strategies, it's just
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: like you can't you can't ignore that board flood decks exist,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: or you have to accept that you're not going to
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: beat them, right if you just don't take anyway to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: handle them.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I your deck is optimized to go
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: against a handful of different strategies in one way.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Or here's another fact. Because I'm looking at the list
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: right now, and I don't think I'm wrong on this one.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't believe there are any amber Sky's cards on
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the restricted list? Is there?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: And I also was thinking of that earlier. I don't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: think there are no.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I haves.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: I had an amber Sky's build that before I got
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: talked into Chaos. I was pretty proud of. I don't
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: know that it's the best thing in the world, but
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: it's very cool. And I actually had the thought that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: I wonder if I should give that a shat and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: at least one of the vaulteurs next year, because some
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: people are nice enough to let me borrow their decks
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: under the premise of I'm aiming to use this at Worlds.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: And then I didn't, and it was cool and isn't
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: affected in the slightest bit.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: But this list, do you have enough key sheat in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: your amber skies?
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: They have the Amber drakes. Yeah, that but that but
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: that's the drakes. Outside of the drakes, which is what
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: we saw I didn't use.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: That's where the question is.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: My build wasn't going drakes heavy key sheets, but it
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: did tea keys. But most importantly, it utilized like almost
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: perfect housepit placement, to the point that I almost had
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: two houses.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: In my deck, and two houses better than three.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah, And it's interesting because I was considering my
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: two losses at Worlds, and I think actually the worst
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: loss I had I would have been okay because I
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: just I kept losing to really really terrible ask again,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: luck in that it I never guessed it right. But
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: being down to a three card house, you know, if
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: I can still have a pretty good chance of playing
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: all three of those cards and just drawing my deck
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: would have actually been okay. So we'll see. Might give
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: it a shot, only because I really liked that build, Like.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: Boys, the only other thing I saw on our updated
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: information we have Vault Master twenty six comes back thoughts
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: on this, and technically DM rules were also added, but
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: Vault Master twenty six, what do you think?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Guys?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, we'll see.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: Three.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: We don't know.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give it all.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: You have no idea it could be well no, but
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: just again, which was not good. And that was the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: question Logos and a bunch of nothing.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: What we've seen it now for twenty three, twenty four,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: twenty five. I thought twenty five everyone really had a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: good time with and I think.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: The Vault Master sets have gotten better year over year. Right,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: twenty three was but does that.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Mean we're about to get a total total goods because
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, we already used all those cards, so
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: we don't want to make twenty six too close to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: one of the other sets.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like Logos purchased itself.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: Right, So well, I asked, because people people have been
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: so adamant against it, but others are like, it's fine, oh.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Ja, and who else do you do?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: You have a couple of Europeans, there's a couple of.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: So again, I fully support Vault Masters, but I also
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: fully support more accessibility of it, especially when it's like
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: twenty five and it's super fun.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa easy there, ma'am, And you have to
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: give people a reason to come to Vault tours.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Make it early.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Access for well, outside of you can buy retail twenty
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: five outside of repound. I don't know if there's that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: many people who went because of BM, but I could
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: be wrong. I don't actually know, But I mean giving
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: the ability to sell VM boxes retail through non US distributorships, Yeah,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: go for it. Just freaking want to buy them.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: Would it be from Europe?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Just going to buy them all anyways?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Would it be so bad if VM was early
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: access until the vault tours are over and then it
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: turns retail available after that? Like, there's your incentive as
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: you go you can.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: And then they didn't print nearly enough of it?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: Right, But if that's the goal, like it, they would right?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: Like that's no, they wouldn't if you adjusted to sell
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: it for retail, Yes, they would, no, because they Okay,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: you cannot tell me that when we got almost left
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: over of your print, right, I'm saying, you strategize to
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: sell more after the fact.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is you're going to put it
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: all up for they're going to put the problem. I
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: do get it, I get it, But they're going to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: put it all up for sale at at KFC and
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: sell all of it at KFC and then and then
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: there's not going to be anything left, and it's not
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: like they're going to do another print run.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: I said after the last vault. Remember KFC is not
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: not a vault or and that's when you're not guarantee you're.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Going to have for vault.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully they stick with their thing where they geotagged.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: It would be awesome if they could figure out how
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: to print the right number where every vault was just
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: geotag decks right for for that event, and then the
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: non geotaged ones were more generally available that it would
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: reduce the value of geotag decks because they would be
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: more common. But I don't know. Geot decking doesn't seem
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: to carry much additional value anyway.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: The solution to that is if you overprint, uh, make
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: them purchasable at worlds, make the leftovers available at worlds,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: because that's how you get people who can't travel internationally
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: to get the international ones and still make money off
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: of them. Is you get a bunch of these, a
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: couple of these for going to this vultur, you get
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: these we're going to the Vault tour, but you're not
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: going to be able to access those unless you can
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: communicate with somebody in that country and get them and
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: have a whole bunch of hassle, or you come to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: the event where we gather people from all over the world,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: and then you can buy the things that were available
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: all over the world in a limited quantity because it's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: all we have left. So you can overprint to some
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: small extent and just plan to sell the leftovers there.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, especially if they like they know that, like they
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: generally have a number they should be able to.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have international products for sale at international events
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: or the one international event, well they have from the
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: US perspective they have, I would say they have more
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: than one. The one multinational event, I guess is what
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: I what I meant to saying, the one where you
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: gather everybody. But I don't need to see deck at
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: at Roseville or well not that one but Baltimore, but
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: at Worlds that would be a cool thing, that would
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: even maybe be an incentive for me to go. Is that,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: like I now don't have to pay god knows how
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: much shipping for a single deck after communicating with a
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: guy online just to get a deck from a country
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: that I can't visit. But if I go to worlds,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: I have a chance to buy one.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: But there there's the I mean if they make another
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: like say they implemented our plan and then made a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: poopy VM set, because that could happen.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody nobody like that's there's a question, is how much
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: if they made the retail available, even in some limited
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: quantity where it's like you could order each store can
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: only order some over buy whatever junk they decided, right like,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: would they is there even the ability to turn enough
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: for the matter, or is that just functionally reducing the
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: number of sales of regular sets because people are like,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: you know, like, is are more because they could buy
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: VM or are they going to buy the same number
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: of decks and just split it across more sets, which means.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: Don't don't make a shitty set. That's possibles.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Helped them do that a little better.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: I mean they're listening. There's listening to play testers too, though.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: Uh in an ideal world, if you if it's only
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: retail available after the Vault tours end, then stores and
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: communities should have a chance to see if anyone's interested
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: before they're even able to work.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: But that you could just like timing window would meet.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I don't know. I don't brun logistics for
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: a shipping company like that's on them to figure out
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: dates and ship I'm just throwing that ideas. We can't.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: We can't figure out five.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Corner. And I'm here to pooh pooh anything you come
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: up with.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: My complaint is that it should be more available. How
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: and why is up to them to figure out. But yes,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: when when it's fun, it sucks that it's limited, yea. Yes,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: And when the first VM deck scans is like one
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty sasas and his is everyone off for well,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: this is one loud person off for several years to come.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: For the rest of us.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: Have zero VMI last year.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Also, I don't think we've seen have we seen any
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: VM decks do much of anything?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: There's been there's one or two of making.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: One or two.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: I'm chewing with one for storage camps. But that's just
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: because I know I'm going to lose to Barlow, and
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: I want to decide how much fun I'm going to
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: have along the way.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Barlow's got heat.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: I asked him what what fire he was bringing? He
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: did not answer me. So it's real bad.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: All right time to put a bow on it. You
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: can read all of the new t rg's over it.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: We have to make fun of you for a a
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: I oh man, Man.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: The episode titles suck.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not so much that, as AI. It's just
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: that the title sucks and the description sucks.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: What if you used regular intelligence to rate a good title?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: AI, use it, Well, it'll do a good job. What's
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: wrong with the what's wrong with the AI titles? Oh
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: my god?
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: Just they read like a clickbait headline.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's how I told AI to write it
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: with the with the.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: Worst Yeah, everything changed.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: No, No, these titles are not for you. You're going
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: to listen anyway, small but for the few of us
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: who are here.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Come on, you.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Already you are already a part of the show. You
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: listen to it live weekly because I'm okay. These these
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: are these are designed to get people who are like,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: what is this key forge thing? I'm interested.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: There's no one who is not already following.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Matter.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Bad people, nobody people click on that ship are twelve
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: years old and aren't going to listen to us anyways.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: You can pull metrics from when you like, like data
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: for new listeners and stuff from when you started doing
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: that versus before, right, like you should be able to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: pull that from something on that podcast, I said, be
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: able to.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I can't make them do it. Number one, I can't
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: if it's actually working. Uh, and I can tell you
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: I don't believe it.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: You can. And then he said a statement that agrees
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: with him.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Nowhere did he say, I mean, I can tell you
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: that unique listeners has gone up. I mean it's it's
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: not we're not earth shattering anybody, but the number of
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: unique clicks has gotten up. Which I don't know.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Everybody's running. Everybody's running VPNs.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know who the fucks listening to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: this more than once. I haven't need I don't know.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: Well, so when it gets bad or too long, we
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: stop it and then we get to come back to
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: it at the later point in time and it restarts.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: So you get you get a second click there, you're welcome.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: But that's where that's where the unique. That's where the unique.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: So that so what you stop sting to it on
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: your phone and then go listen to it on your computer?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: VPNs always.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's odd, but uh, maybe that's where I am.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: That's where I have time, So that's fine.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: But maybe one day when we're making buckets of money,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, we can hire somebody to do the se
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: O bullshit for us. That's not today though, No, no, that's.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: Not going to happen. But you could have an adult
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: AI make our things.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, which one is the adults AI?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know the one that doesn't sound click baby?
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Oh I was going elsewhere with that, but yeah, I.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Mean more.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: You know, after already have access to that one.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: H you want me to do that right now?
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna getting saved.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: Oh sure, you could ask it with tone to put
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: it in.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: I like, don't sound like a dipship while you're doing this.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I've never just with what we are say snarky asshole?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: How we got this bullshit?
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? A little bit?
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: So much dotation today? Boys?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: What should be right? A snarky asshole title and description?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: Do you see snarky asshole? And this is the adult AI.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: It's gonna give you something else?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: Uh version.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Charcoal description about the new restricted card list.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: Well, this is the best content right here.
• 1:35:53
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• 1:35:56
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• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: You need more more way for him rating a title right.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Because all right, you ready for this one? This one's worse.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: I think this one's worse than what it has been writing.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: What do you god?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: It says, oh good, another list? Hey forged new restricted
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: cards because fun was getting out of hand.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: That is actually more accurate to your Yeah, it was better.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: I would say it's good.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's working, so.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: I will make sure.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: I will add in snarky asshole into a lot more
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: no emojis, tell no emojis, it doesn't have any emojis.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's set for ten year olds.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: With ghost Galaxy drop brand new restricted card list and
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: apparently someone decided we were having a little too much fun.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Plans. I think it's okay this weekly?
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Should I just add random eggplant emojis in there somewhere,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: just be like, oh good, another list emotion. This week,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: we break down the newest restriction that's newest restrictions, talk
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: about which Jack just got kneecapped, and argue about whether
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: any of this will actually fix the meta or just
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: give everyone something new to complain about. Expect opinions, saltant,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: questionable takes, and at least one rant about why that
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: card made the list, while others somehow escape justice. If
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: you love key forde hate key Ford, or just enjoy
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: watching decks getting nerfed into oblivion, this episode.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: For you.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: That's Boy was actually actually this one. That's that's one.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Oh I see now Flyless wants me to start putting
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: all sorts of emojas. Be like, oh good, another listgplant emoji,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: peach emoji.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: He's all, it's been another great episode.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been another great episode. Make sure you check
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: out the Patreon so that you two can get your
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: drazz scores. Make sure you guys are using key chains
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: because I like fake Internet points. Where else you know,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: maybe go to ww dot g G. You can you
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: use code draw better to get ten percent off your
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: your energy?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to go play a keyboards deckboarding
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: deck building format where technically nothing is legal, it's really
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: just determining how hard the guy cross the table's gonna
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: punch you when you play the cards in your deck.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: I highly recommend Keymander.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: Oh I have I have yet to play Keymander?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: Can we just library? Yes?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: And then? Oh man, and I didn't. Well, I'll tell
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: you off air. Not everybody needs to know secret they
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: can cut, they can come find out that it's the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: first fault is the first what's the first vault tour?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Portland's plan is the first one. Yeah, Mamon, you're coming right.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't bought my ticket yet, but I'm just
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: gonna starta I gotta work that.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, let's where let's work it.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Mammon doesn't have anything else going on but playing key
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Fortune brushing his beard.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: You're helping you yourself. Hey, I used the water pit.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: I said, like, I think he was helping me. He
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, you think you're gonna get all the
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: vaults next year? And I was like, well, I mean
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: maybe i'll try to make like four. I don't know
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: if I can do five again, and then announced four.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: So I basically did it to myself.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're the reason we're only getting four vaults.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: Heard it.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they don't blame mammon.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: You spend time with Josh and now everything is ruined.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has not us know from yourself because Liam
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: blames me for stuff all the time.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, but I.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Did come up with the idea a number of episodes
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: to just blame mammon, So, I mean it's fun, all right,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: it's fun, but make sure you guys check on there.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: But I guess.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: You a good time. We're rocking uh more mutation while
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: you guys were just like going to town with that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: other table.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: I'll do if we end chance early enough, you you
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: sit down and place the commander with us on Sunday.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: Sure it would be a lot of fun with that thing,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: some interesting stuff. You think.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Got to go home and wash his hair. I'm gonna
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: get me some.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: Over.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: You're allergic to fun? Of course you feels sick?
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, according to this, too much of it.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: But that beings said, it is time get out of here.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: We will see you all.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: Look were you actually gonna tell me the thing on your.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Y'all know? I just feel like him to have just
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: edited laugh to be the episode is at recording.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: I think you might just fall.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 5: Asleep also a possibility.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm gonna add this. I'm out.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: Everyone, May the floor be with you?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone else time.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: You can't how with me?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: That's how I don't called chat