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39 Years In The Making | A Different World View · A Different World View with Darryl & Kadeem

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  Speaker 1: It's a different worldview with Daryl and Kadeem.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even say it without laughing. What the hell
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  Speaker 2: have I gotten myself into? I don't know. I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe here we are. We are doing this.
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  Speaker 3: This is.
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  Speaker 4: You talk enough, so this was a natural.
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  Speaker 2: This was going to happen. This had to happen. This
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  Speaker 2: had to happen. Had to happen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the best idea we've
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  Speaker 1: ever had or the absolute worst idea we've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: This is about to be a shit show. Welcome to
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  Speaker 2: the shit show, folks.
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  Speaker 1: This is the shit show live.
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  Speaker 2: Best idea we've had or the worst idea we've had ever.
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  Speaker 2: Shit show. Shit show. This is the shit show live.
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  Speaker 1: So, look, we need to break all this down. It
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  Speaker 1: is a different worldview with Daryl and Kniep. First, let's
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  Speaker 1: start with that.
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  Speaker 2: OK. I love that. I approve.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, this is so encapsulate not only what
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  Speaker 1: we want from the podcast, but this is exactly the
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  Speaker 1: way we talk about everything.
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  Speaker 2: Little you and big me. Perfect. The only thing that
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  Speaker 2: made a benefit was Kadeem and Daryl. But other than that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. But it's not Kadeem and Daryl because it's
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  Speaker 2: age before beauty. That's true. See? And most people don't
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  Speaker 2: know that I'm older than you. Who don't know? Who
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  Speaker 2: don't know?
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  Speaker 1: Most people think I'm, because of my size, they think
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  Speaker 1: I'm younger brother or littler to you.
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  Speaker 2: So they think younger and they don't know. I always thought,
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  Speaker 2: at least from back in the day, they would have
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  Speaker 2: thought you were a little old. Like, no, no, we
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  Speaker 2: were freshmen together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They, they always, for some reason, well, not for
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  Speaker 1: some reason, but for the, the ways in which Ron
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  Speaker 1: was viewed as a sidekick.
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  Speaker 2: So it's always younger.
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  Speaker 1: Like Robin was younger than Batman or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of, uh, um, But the other part is,
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  Speaker 1: depending on who you ask, they either do look like
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  Speaker 1: us or they don't.
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  Speaker 2: Look like us.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I like that, too. I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want it to be perfect. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little rendered. No, you don't need Michelangelo to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited for this. And look, off the jump,
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  Speaker 1: we want to thank Black Effect and Charlamagne Tha God.
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  Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be part of the Black Effect
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  Speaker 1: and Charlamagne Tha God and his entire team. They are
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  Speaker 1: our partners in producing our podcast. So we want to
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  Speaker 1: give you all a shout out.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And iHeart.
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  Speaker 2: Those are our partners as well.
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  Speaker 1: We are happy to be among the Black Effect and
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  Speaker 1: iHeart family of podcasts wherever you get your podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing that. And then we also want to thank
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  Speaker 2: Howie Mandel. Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Because Howie has allowed us space in his kingdom for
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  Speaker 1: us to set up.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: The most gracious facility where we can call home and
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  Speaker 1: be comfortable in our own studio.
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  Speaker 2: Not too far from my house.
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  Speaker 1: And the best part of today being day one is
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  Speaker 1: literally this is day one.
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  Speaker 2: I got nothing. I at least tried. Yeah, because Dean
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  Speaker 2: brought something. I brought something.
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  Speaker 1: I brought nothing because I need time to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what I want.
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  Speaker 4: And you got a lot going on in your brain
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  Speaker 4: and you are going to carry this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you don't need nothing distracting nobody from your brilliance.
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  Speaker 1: Howie suggested I take off my shoes, and I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to wear them. But the shoes are important
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  Speaker 1: to that. For people who wouldn't think these matter, the
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  Speaker 1: Jordans matter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because, again, we have to break down, which is what
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy about being in the podcast space.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to have some format. We're just making
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  Speaker 2: it up all along. Run your mouth.
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  Speaker 1: The beginnings of this podcast go back to the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of our relationship. So tell everybody how we met the
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  Speaker 1: folks who don't know how we met.
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  Speaker 4: Boy, back in 1987, we did a movie called School Days.
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  Speaker 4: And somehow Spike would always set these lineups. Like police lineups.
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  Speaker 2: You guys over here.
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  Speaker 4: And you'd always be matched up and kind of staggered
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  Speaker 4: and looking at each other. And somehow we always ended
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  Speaker 4: up faced off against one another. And me being a
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  Speaker 4: trained actor. And you're doing, oh, I'm just, this is
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  Speaker 4: what happened, right?
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  Speaker 2: This is real. We're going hard. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: A trained actor. You get the first shot. So I
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  Speaker 1: took the trained actor.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: And you being the dude that said, hey, Spike, on
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  Speaker 4: the street, you saw him coming out of the bathroom
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  Speaker 4: or something and said, hey, Spike, put.
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  Speaker 2: Me in your movie. Coming out of the bathroom. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I might have made that up. Yeah. You saw him
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  Speaker 2: coming out of the bathroom. I'm just hanging out in
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  Speaker 2: some bathroom.
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  Speaker 4: Looking back at him at the movie theater and saying, hey, Spike,
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  Speaker 4: put me in your movie.
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  Speaker 2: Put me in a movie. Is there a toilet with
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  Speaker 2: Spike Lee in there? I'm looking for. I want to
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  Speaker 2: be in a movie. What? And somehow manifested that. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Into being in a movie. And a good role in
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  Speaker 2: a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Because you were one of the real Greeks, right?
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  Speaker 4: The only one. No, that's your rusty condition. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I figured it was one or two of you.
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  Speaker 4: And so you were able to help a lot with
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  Speaker 4: some stuff that needed to be.
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  Speaker 2: Real thick. Yes, indeed. So when we'd face off against
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  Speaker 2: each other, I was acting you under the table and
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  Speaker 2: you were hiding.
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  Speaker 4: Behind big brother x-ray visions mirrored shades because you couldn't
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  Speaker 4: keep a straight face looking at me.
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  Speaker 2: Now this would be. Well, you are funny looking. You
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  Speaker 2: little bastard. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if someone could go and check the tape, you'll
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  Speaker 4: find the scene that I'm talking about where we are
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  Speaker 4: faced off.
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  Speaker 2: And this poor guy is every time I look at.
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  Speaker 4: Him, he got to hold his face down and turn
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  Speaker 4: and not and not even try to embrace the heat
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  Speaker 4: that I'm bringing to him.
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  Speaker 2: So that's how we met. We became good friends.
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  Speaker 1: He.
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  Speaker 4: Is literally the reason I became a hardcore console gamer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because these guys would go out and party all night.
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  Speaker 4: We was getting ready to go out and party. And
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  Speaker 4: he told me, come on down to his room. And
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  Speaker 4: he had Nintendo baseball. And he beat me like a
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  Speaker 4: rug on this game.
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  Speaker 2: Every day. Oh, my God. Every day.
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  Speaker 4: And I stopped going to the parties. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to stay in his room. And I am
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  Speaker 4: going to ask for my key. Let me get your room.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going down there to master this game. And then
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  Speaker 4: became went on and got my own. And so we
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  Speaker 4: met in 87 on school days and been.
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  Speaker 2: Running our mouths and been brothers ever since. That is
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful story. And most of that's true. Oh, most
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  Speaker 2: of it. Most of it's true. The bathroom part, maybe
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  Speaker 2: he was... Most of that story's true. Maybe he had
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  Speaker 2: a hot dog stand.
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  Speaker 1: And the good thing about this is that it's all
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  Speaker 1: being recorded.
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  Speaker 2: So you can go back and rewind and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Because I said to the man, Howard told.
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  Speaker 2: Me to put up one of my shoes and I said,
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  Speaker 2: the shoes are going to be important. So I said,
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  Speaker 2: tell everybody how we met. We did not meet at
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  Speaker 2: school days.
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  Speaker 1: We met because when I met Spike on the street
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  Speaker 1: and asked him for a role in the movie, I
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  Speaker 1: had to audition. And when I was preparing myself to audition,
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  Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends in life, Phil Durante, was
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  Speaker 1: dating this young lady named Donna. And Donna said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to audition for School Days? A friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine named Kadeem Hardison is already in the movie. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean already in the movie? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't even got a chance to audition. He's already
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  Speaker 1: in the movie, but he's been talking about it this, that,
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  Speaker 1: and the other thing. So Donna kept talking to me
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  Speaker 1: about Kadeem Hardison. Yeah, okay, Kadeem Hardison.
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  Speaker 2: Blah, blah, blah. So....
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  Speaker 1: I get cast in the movie, and there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: story with that, but I get cast in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: And when we all get cast and Spike says, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go down to Atlanta next month, but come
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  Speaker 1: to New York to the studio, we're going to record...
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  Speaker 1: for The Butt, the song The Butt.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, cool. And we all
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  Speaker 2: go to this studio.
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  Speaker 1: In New York.
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  Speaker 2: For free, for free. For free. Yeah, Spike.
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  Speaker 1: We all go to record. And I remember Eric Payne
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  Speaker 1: was there. There were a couple of other folks. And
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  Speaker 1: there was Kadeem Hartson. And it was the first time
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  Speaker 1: I saw him and I was like, yo, Donna been
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  Speaker 1: talking to me about you. I've been talking to her
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  Speaker 1: about me or whatever, however that went down. And at
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  Speaker 1: the time, these were the Jordans that were hot flaming
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  Speaker 1: at the time. And I looked down and Kareem was
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  Speaker 1: wearing the same Jordans.
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  Speaker 2: But The proper way. Oh, gee.
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  Speaker 4: With the white laces. If you know anything about anything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Mike Warren with black laces.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
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  Speaker 4: You got to make that your own. You got to
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  Speaker 4: grab that and put your style in it. So I
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  Speaker 4: took the black laces and was like, that's not happening.
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  Speaker 2: Boom. Threw the white laces in them. Crisp. And it
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  Speaker 2: literally encapsulates our whole relationship. Yeah, exactly. We love the
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  Speaker 2: same thing, but you'd be fucking it up.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You take something perfectly fine and then do something silly.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: And take white laces. I was like, what is the
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  Speaker 2: point of the white laces?
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  Speaker 1: So we have argued like that about almost everything to
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  Speaker 1: some degree. There are certain things for which we have
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: no daylight, you know, since we're talking about Jordan, greatest
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  Speaker 1: basketball player all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. No problem. I mean, a hundred percent. We're
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  Speaker 2: right there.
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  Speaker 1: Um, but that's, that's how we met. And so, and
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to the, but in the chorus, Oh, Leo, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's all of us. This first time I've ever, it's
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  Speaker 1: the only record I've ever been on. And it's still
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  Speaker 1: the only singing I'm allowed to do in a loud
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  Speaker 1: group of folks. Where you can basically go, oh, so
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm talking. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Not really sing. Run your way through it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because don't get me started. Jasmine guy will tell you,
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  Speaker 1: please don't let me sing. Find the key. For those
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  Speaker 1: who will know.
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  Speaker 2: My dear.
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  Speaker 1: Frat brother, rest in peace, Irvin Allgood, who was the
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  Speaker 1: head of the BCC choir, founding member at Syracuse.
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  Speaker 2: And when we would sing our fraternity song, Irwin would
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: look at me and he's like, don't do that. Back out.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, stop. Stop singing. No, absolutely. And I would
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  Speaker 2: try to, and he was like, nah. So that's where
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  Speaker 2: we met. Yeah. And immediately we connected.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so when we got down to Atlanta, we're hanging
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  Speaker 1: out all the time, which was the wild thing because
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  Speaker 1: the Gammas and the.
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  Speaker 2: Fellas were supposed to be at odds all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But we were hanging out every day. All the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we were hanging out every day. We were in the room.
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  Speaker 2: I had a car. We were going everywhere together. New Yorkers,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know nothing about that. He couldn't drive. We
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  Speaker 2: were driving everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: And the fun part about the Nintendo, because you only
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  Speaker 1: remember baseball, but I had the other games too.
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  Speaker 2: So I was playing....
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  Speaker 1: It had the, I think it was Hooligans Alley, the
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  Speaker 1: shooting game, and the Ducks.
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  Speaker 2: So I would play all the other games.
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  Speaker 1: You were just playing baseball every day. And it was
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  Speaker 1: at least a month or two of just beating you,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, like a rug before you knew that
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  Speaker 1: you could put a curve on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. The little bastard wouldn't even tell me the basics.
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  Speaker 2: Figure it out. I was like, how come I can't
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  Speaker 2: figure it out? Figure it out. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You just got to time it. I was striking out
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  Speaker 1: all the time. And the slow ball. You can slow
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  Speaker 1: it down. Like halfway, and it was slow. Oh, Nintendo
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  Speaker 1: was great. So that's where our whole gaming thing started.
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  Speaker 1: But the part that you say, which was....
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  Speaker 2: About the trained actor part. Wait, wait. I'm not trained?
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  Speaker 1: I am just saying that what differentiated us was not
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  Speaker 1: the training. What differentiated us was... The ability to keep
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  Speaker 1: it together in the scene. Every time I see you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I start to laugh. The ability to keep it together
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  Speaker 1: in the scene. Every time I look at him, I
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  Speaker 1: want to laugh. So, Kadeem would be in Canton.
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  Speaker 2: He turned on hard. I'm like... Like, you can't be laughing.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be mad at me. I don't even believe you, right?
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  Speaker 2: And he's just solid into it. And I'm thinking, oh, God,
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  Speaker 2: we're on film. I can't do this. So, fortunately... When
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  Speaker 2: you want to.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about training, I went to immediately, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they talk about Brando had all of his dialogue written everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I had x-ray vision sunglasses on. They were mirrored.
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  Speaker 1: So I finally figured I'll just close my eyes. And
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  Speaker 1: when I turn to look at him, I can be
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  Speaker 1: as hard as I want because I can't see anything.
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  Speaker 1: So if you look at all those scenes of us,
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  Speaker 1: at the parade when we are lined up, I never
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  Speaker 1: had to turn away from laughing because I was never
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  Speaker 1: looking at you.
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  Speaker 2: Like you staring with your eyes. I was staring with
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  Speaker 2: my eyes closed. They were completely shut.
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  Speaker 4: They would never train you to do that in any
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  Speaker 4: acting class anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Fake it till you make it. I guess that is
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  Speaker 2: a thing. No, it's not even fake it till you
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  Speaker 2: make it.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: It was, who was it just posted the thing about
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  Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman who taught him the greatest trick in acting.
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  Speaker 1: He said in any drama when you're sitting there looking
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  Speaker 1: at somebody, You go, did I take the laundry out?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Nathan Fillion. Nathan Fillion
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  Speaker 2: was talking about Dustin Hoffman. Like, did I take the
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: laundry out? Yeah. Do you have my laundry? Maybe I
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  Speaker 2: should get the laundry when I leave. That's all you
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  Speaker 2: have to say to yourself. No, I did take the laundry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: but it'll give you the perfect response for what you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, oh, and it was, I think I just saw
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  Speaker 1: something from Gary Oldman too, uh, where he said it was.
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  Speaker 2: All James Cagney. He said, if you're trying to look menacing,
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  Speaker 2: he said, you lift the head.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then the eyes. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, so yeah, so that, that's how, um, that's
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  Speaker 1: where our relationship started. When school days was done, that's
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: when I came to Los Angeles. Cause I'm, Didn't go
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: back to Syracuse for summer school. I came out to
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  Speaker 1: LA for the summer. And then the traditional television cycle.
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  Speaker 2: Pilot season? Pilot season. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, in August when it was time for all
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  Speaker 1: the new shows, that's when they started casting for a
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  Speaker 1: different world.
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  Speaker 2: And you were in New York.
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  Speaker 1: I was in LA. We were both auditioning for Dwayne Wayne.
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  Speaker 1: Most folks don't know that. And we kept getting callbacks
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  Speaker 1: every day. I would say, I call you in New
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: York and say, I got a call back.
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  Speaker 2: Me too. And I'm going to the producers. Me too.
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  Speaker 2: They're taking me in to read for the network. They're
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: flying me out to L.A. Me too. And so we
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: did all that.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And so it was me, Kadeem, and like one other dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shame that we can't remember who this other
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  Speaker 2: guy was. He should let us know. Yeah, right. If
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: you're out there. And you auditioned for Dwayne Wayne. Tell us.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be mad. And he probably like, why would I
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: tell you? Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: That you beat me again. Years later that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get that job. So, you know, Kadeem went in to
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the audition and all I heard was, ah! That's all
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: you can hear outside.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: There's a killer on the loose.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: There's a killer among us. That's all I can hear.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And up until that point, when I auditioned for School Days,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: it was Spike Lee and Robert Reed.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Two people.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: For A Different World, it was Eileen Knight and a couple,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: maybe two other people, Matt. And when we went in
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: for the production, for the network at NBC. It was
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: like 40.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: People in the room.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I was terrified. I walked in there. To this day,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what I said.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Dustin Hoffman and his tricks couldn't help you. Nobody could
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: save you. I guess that's where the training part may
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: have come in. See what I'm trying to tell you?
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: See what I'm trying to tell you? I was not
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: trained for that day. But that was not the final.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I had to go back another day Really? And there
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: was nobody.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because when I got.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: There for what I thought was going to be okay,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: it's down to me and maybe one other now, now
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: because I'm coming back.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: There was nobody there. And I walked in the reception
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: and I was looking and I was like, where's everybody else?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: It was like, it's just you. I was like, oh shit,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: it's in the bag. This is in the bag. And
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I went in again, 40 people lined up around the room.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I got to, I got
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: to try something. And I started on one side.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And I went, what's your name?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: And this one told me their name and that one
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: told me their name and that one and that one
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: and that one and that one and that one.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And they got all the way around to the other end.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And then I went back within reverse.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: And I said, thank you. So and so, so and so,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: so and so, so and so. By the time I
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: got to the middle of the room, you could hear
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: them like, like at a game. And it was the
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: bottom of the night. And they was waiting for me
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: to hit this home run. And I got to the
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: last person, said their name, and they erupted in applause.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like, thanks, guys. And turned the walk out.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It was like, wait, wait, you got to do the scene.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the scene?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: This is nothing. Boom, let's do this. I rocked it,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: killed them. They told me before I got home.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: That I had the gig. I had never heard that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I went back in just me.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, whiz because that's always been yeah a
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: b and c choices like i you know we like
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: c but we want to put them up yeah what's
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: happening and then it was just me it was like
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: you're the only one i was like oh this is
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: it's a wrap kids is that right yes sir i
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: never heard that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Before today yeah yeah yeah and now you couldn't name
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: 10 people in a room.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: A lot of white folks. It was nice white folks.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Now you're just guessing. Yeah, right. George, Becky, Elliot. Roll
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: with me, y'all.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just applaud when I get it wrong. If I
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: get it wrong, just at the end. Yeah, just come on.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Show me some love.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I'm trying. That part.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just something to break the ice and, uh,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: set the tone that we were going to have fun.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Even if I stumbled on that, but I could feel
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: him like all like rooting, like, oh my God, if
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: he does this, if he can pull this off.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: And I was like, boom, bam. And it just all
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: started to happen.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I got to the last one and they just, the
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: applause as if I'd won the fight, hit the last shot.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: The greatest trick. Yeah. You're David Blaine. Yeah, exactly. And
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: then I was like, all right, thanks. knowing that I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: had to read the scene, but I was going to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: pretend like, all right, I'm done. And it was like, wait, wait,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: we got to do the scene. I was like, the scene? Oh, yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I know the scene. And then did a little with
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Dwayne Wayne. Did you have to do any chemistry reads
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: with Lisa? No. No. Nothing. Wow. Nothing. They was like,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he's the one. But you had history with the Cosby show, too. Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I did one episode, Gordon Gartrell episode, where....
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Malcolm started out the day wanting a $ 35 shirt or
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: something like that. And Bill's big line, I think he
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: kind of improvised, like, no, the only person who should
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: have a $ 35 shirt is if he's on stage with
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: his four brothers. Shout out to Michael and Jackson. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: then Denise decided... you know, you give me 10 bucks,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I can go get the materials and make this for you.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Make it for you. And, um, and so he gave
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it to her and she made the worst shirt.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Classic. Yeah. Um, but in the, and then I learned
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: a lot about.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Cuts because when I got there, the first day, the
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: first table read, I had three scenes and a bunch
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: of lines, me and Malcolm hanging and running and doing
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and talking to girls and I, And the next day,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: came back.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I had one scene. And then the next day. Mama,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be on TV.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And then the next day, the third day, my one
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: scene had got cut to one line. I had one line. Hey,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: would you make one for me? it built no it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: an original designer original we burned the thing and I
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: was like wow I thought it was I didn't think
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it was something I was doing yeah but I just
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: thought man I'm killing them and they taking they trying
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: to keep me down and then next thing you know
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: we'll get to a different world and we start doing
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: that and I saw it happen all the time lines
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: get cut scenes get cut for time so I had
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: a better understanding of it but I was I was
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: burnt when they, I had three scenes, bro, on.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: The Cosby show. Three scenes?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Three scenes that went to one scene, but at least
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: a couple of different lines that went to one line,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: one sentence. Wow.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, would you make one for me? And that was it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Adam Sandler had more in his role. Exactly. Way more. Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: His appearance was bigger than that. That was great.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: But then, you know, everybody met the family and had
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: a good time with them. And the casting folks.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because it was, wasn't it Barry Moss? Yeah. Yep.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Hughes Moss. Hughes Moss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: I remember my audition. I went in there and I
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: was just a smart ass. And I took the train
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: all the way from Manhattan to get there. I go
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: in and I say, hello, Felicia.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Hello, Lisa. Hello, Malcolm. Hello. And then I get to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: him and I go, Mr. Coosby. And everybody else laughed.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And he was kind of. And I was like, oh, shit.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So I did my part.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And he said, OK, you got the job.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And they were like, Bill, Bill. He's like, oh, sorry,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: if you can say something to the guy outside to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: make him mess up, then you get the job. So
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I went out like, oh, snap, I killed. Got on
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the train. By the time I got home, got the job.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, so he wasn't mad at me, but he
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: was playing like, don't you come in here, boy, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: be throwing no funny stuff.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm sure he appreciated the hoods.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: He said, and I never forgot, he said, you have
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: in my audition, first audition, big audition for the Cosby show,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: he said, you have impeccable timing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Nigga, I just liked it. That's how I praise it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: That moment, that time, from him.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I floated all the way home. I got on the train.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: By the time I got home, they called up and said,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: you got it? I was like, And then they went
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: from three scenes to one scene to one line. And
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I had to hit that one line with my impeccable
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: timing because that was all I had.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm trying to think of, of, of like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: what superhero movie or like horror movie when.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: They just go for the heart.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And just rip it right out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's like some mortal combat. Yeah. Finish him. Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Finish him. A hundred percent.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: 100% by, uh, one of the best, most, Fun days
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: in my career, like having him say, I mean, this
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: was Fat Albert.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: People talk about when you get that moment where you
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm good enough. Yeah, yeah, yep.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: And he completely validated everything I thought maybe for the last,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: what I must have been 19 then. So for the
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: last 10 years, from the time I was 9 or
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: 10 years old, I was like, I want to be
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: on TV. I, oh, all right.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Well, that's going to lead us down to another, another storytelling,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but we'll come back to the time where you think
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: made it. But I'm, I'm going to put us, since
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: this is our first episode of our podcast, put it
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in perspective. One, talking about why we're doing this. Well,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about doing our own show for at least.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: A different world.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It's been 39 years since it debuted. So it can't
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: be more than 39 years, right? So, but if we
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: go back to school days, We were making mixtapes together
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: at Run DMC, right? At the mall, yes. And we'd
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: go to Six Flags Magic Mountain.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. And we'd record in the studio.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And we started doing all the Run DMC stuff. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: we were coming back. Please don't pull up the tape
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: of any of this. No, no, no. No, I have.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Those are like, because they were in cassette tape.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Because you could pick the song in the karaoke that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: And....
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Of course, I was Daryl. Yes. And you were Joe. Yes.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yes. No one was Jay because we were trying to rap.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: We were doing it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But there's a story of how all of that also
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: led to Ron Johnson too.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: From the hat that I was wearing to try and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: be Run DMC-ish, that ultimately led to my great-uncle, taking
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you to the pork pie, Stetson pork pie. But, so, again,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in terms of our wanting to do something aside from
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: acting on screen together, it goes back to that. And then,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've, for all the time that we, from
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the time Debbie Allen came on board with A Different
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: World and Norm Nixon played for the Clippers.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: We've been going, you know, that led us to the Clippers,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: which led us to get courtside seats. And everything about
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: sports for us started there. And our connection to not
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: only all of the stars in the NBA there, right?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But I also talk about where I started playing golf
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: from the Warren Moon Celebrity Golf and Tennis Tournament where
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I met all the NFL players. So Ronnie Lott, Warren Moon,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You got everybody in it, right?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: So now we're friends with almost everybody in the NBA
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and everyone's our age, right? All the folks playing in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the NFL, right? And, you know, we're hanging out with
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Norms or with Debbie's house. You know, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar come
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: by the house. And I remember when.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's my man for the Pistons? The center. Big man.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Weed smoker, my man. Oh, I feel bad because somebody's
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: going to tell me. Oh, my God. James... James.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: With the mustache. Yes.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Not Douglas. Edward. James Edwards.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I remember when James Edwards came through the door. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: was like.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: You let a piston in a Laker house? I was like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: what's going on? And Norm was like, that's my dog.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: So it was that sense of our scene.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I remember we were with MJ somewhere playing cards in a.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Hotel room and Vinnie Johnson walked in the door. I
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: was like, what is Vinnie Johnson coming in for? You
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: can't hang out together.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And from all of these kind of behind the scenes conversations,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: We just knew we were better than everybody else talking
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: about sport.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Except to every athlete who was like, y'all have no idea.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: You don't know what you're talking about. I was like, yes,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I do. I could be the GM. Just give me
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: a shot. I want you to be the GM.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: No one knows. So, okay.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: During our entire clipper time, Donald Sterling used to sit
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of seats down in the front row.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: And Donald Sterling would walk by us at every game.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Every game.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: And I remember we were playing Seattle. And we were
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: talking to Sean Kemp. And Sean goes by and Donald
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Sterling walked up and said, who the fuck are you?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And why does everybody come over and talk to you?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And we were like, uh, they're our friends, you know?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And it was no Google at the time. They Googled me.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You couldn't do none of that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And, That started our conversation with Donald Sterling.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: He would come and ask for our opinion after everything.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And we kept telling him, it was like, look, you
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: should fire Andy Rosen and hire us. It's like, we
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: could help you. Because look, we're in last place. Can't
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: get no worse. Can't get worse. And we're going to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: be cheaper. And all the players love us. That's right.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: They're all my friends. Yes. We pitched him that every week.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And every week he would bring us in the locker
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: room and take us back, you know, and hang out
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: with the players. And we never had any problem. Like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: after every game, we parked in the players' lot. We
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: would roll up into where the players parked.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It probably can go inside. Security be like, let
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: them through. Let them through.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody talks about Billy Crystal and Penny Marshall.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we were there. Yeah, we were there. We
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: were there first. Yep. Frankie came after. Yes. Little Frankie.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Brian Robbins on the other end. Yep. But we were
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: there all this time.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So we had been talking about doing this show and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: we even got receipts because when we, when I did the,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: reality series, House Husbands of Hollywood. Not to be mistaken
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: with the real House Husbands of Hollywood, which was the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: BET show. The House Husbands of Hollywood was the Fox
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: reality show. And on that show, we did a pilot.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Right. With Norm Nixon.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Talking sport. It is on camera.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Where we had Norm as our guest. That's right. And
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that was in, I got to go to my notes, 2009. Wow.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: 2009 when we shot that. And, you know, we had
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: still been talking about it. That was going to be
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: our little sizzle reel to say, this is why we
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: should have our own sports show.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Or GMO to Clippers. One or the other. Come on.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I'll take either one. Then Donald Stern's whole situation imploded.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And, you know, then Steve Ballmer bought tickets and then
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: tickets was a little more expensive.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Team was a little less good. But, you know, we're
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: going to come back to that. I'm going home. But then.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: We made another sizzle reel for this. And by the way,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that show, The House Husbands of Hollywood, was produced by
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Marilyn Wilson. And then we shot a sizzle reel that
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Marilyn was helping us with and her husband Scooter. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: we shot the sizzle reel, thought we could sell the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: podcast then.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Then it didn't work. And that was at least... Ten
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: years ago? Ten years ago? Something like that? Had to be, yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And we probably could have been better at trying to,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but now everybody and their mother got a podcast.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: So now folks are like, well, I guess y'all jumping
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: on the bandwagon. We've been talking about this for... Before
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: podcasts was even a podcast. We thought we could get
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a radio show.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, lass. A radio show. Good evening, folks. We are
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: coming to you live. Look here, Skip. What do you
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: think about that clipper?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I mentioned in the beginning with the Padres 3 and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the Mets 4.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: We thought we could do that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. So this is the manifestation of years
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of wanting to do this. So aside from you and I,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Explain it how we started and we will talk about
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: all the things we're interested in because we got so
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: many things that we disagree about.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Just because if.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: There were a way to describe the worldview, he thinks
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I'm management and he's the players.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. That describes what you think. Yeah. So in baseball,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying we need a salary cap and you're saying no.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Are you out of your... Yeah. Salary cap you... Yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: how about that? But look, at the same time, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they're talking about the Dodgers are unbeatable.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And yet, is it Pittsburgh this year made it to
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the playoffs with the smallest payroll?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Pirates don't make it. No, I don't think the Pirates
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: made it to the playoffs this year. Which team has,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: it's not San Diego. No, it's not San Diego or Philly.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: And not Atlanta. Or Atlanta. Maybe Milwaukee. Milwaukee. They probably Milwaukee.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee probably.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: They feel like a farm team. They just give away
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: the good players. But that's the debate.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And oddly enough, while we would debate that about MLB,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: This NIL argument is absurd that we're trying to cap
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the players. It's just, there's no cap on coaches and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: they keep.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Trying to cap the kids. Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: The guys out there, all the kids out there making
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the sports, they need to be capped. And it could
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: be over for them the next play.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow. Not for the coach. I ain't never seen a
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: coach taken out on a stretcher. They could be about
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to leave right now.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Never seen one taken out on a stretcher or a
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: gurney or need to go into concussion protocol.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: No Achilles tears. Nope. No dislocated kneecaps.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when they get fired, they
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: talk about where can I get hired next.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: They're upwardly mobile. They keep going up.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: They fail upward.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: They fail upward. That is correct. That is a thing. So, yeah. Again,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: while we disagree and agree on things like that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But in addition to do that, one of the things
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that we are so happy to be partners with, Black
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Effect and High Heart, also on A Different Worldview, that
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: we're going to re-watch every episode of A Different World.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: 144 episodes. We're going to re-watch every... All of them.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Shit show, y'all. I don't know what that's going to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: be like. Shit show live. I have no idea. Aye, aye, aye.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And the timing of this, because, you know, we should
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: be launching. And by now. It's news. It's official. It's
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: way out. That A Different World has been renewed by Netflix.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: The sequel. The sequel.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: For season two. Congratulations. Congratulations. You were very good. So
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: were you. Hold on. You were very good in the sequel.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: No notes.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I believed every word you said. Now, when we watch
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: this old stuff, I'm not going to be able to.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: say the same things, but you have.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait. I'm sorry. Gotta fix the camera. My guts
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: are all on the floor. I didn't... All of a sudden,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: he went click, click, click, click. That might have come
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: off a little. Choo, choo, choo. Not the way I intended.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. And I just looked up. But
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I meant it sincerely. All my insides were on the floor.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So good. So good.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: So good in the scenes with your son handling all
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: of it. I saw so many.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: And you know... I'm your biggest critic. Biggest fan. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: biggest fan. Biggest fan, yes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: So when I can say honestly that I was impressed,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: not just like, oh, yeah, he did good.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: No, I was impressed. Wow, look at that. And the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: only thing that's missing is the scenes with me and you. Yeah.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: But I'll get you next season.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know, so it's not a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: spoiler because we'll, all of us, Anyone who works in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: film and television, you live and die with the things
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that get cut. Things that end up on the editing floor. Famously,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Kevin Costner in The Big Jim. So there's a lot
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: between you and I that didn't make it into the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: first season of the sequel. So we'll see what happens
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in season two. I've seen a lot of reactions that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: say we needed to see more of Ron and Dwayne.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: We'll hopefully get that. There's plenty of us.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Here. Well, yeah, folks are going to get more than
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: enough of us here. A lot of that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: But by the way, if we're going to sit here
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and be complimentary and cutthroat at the same.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Time, I'd just like to say that I think that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you're terrific in this question. He's, he's full of shit.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He's coming. I got to find armor. Where's my armor?
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: He's bracing himself. You're good in sequel, but I have
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: told you, and I think it is still true. I'd
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: have to go back with some perspective that my favorite
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: performance of yours is from, um, uh, Why can't I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: say the name of it?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It's where you played the voodoo-like ghost. Ah, The Crow.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The Crow, yes. It's called Cowboy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Phenomenal. My favorite performance of yours when I watched.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Just terrific. I've done a lot since then. I know
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: you have. You have. No, wait a minute.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: That's like saying because I love Marlon Brando in The Godfather.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: He's done a lot since then, but shit, that was
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: The Godfather. You know what I mean? So that is... Phenomenal.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Just role, performance. Now, I was going to say Death
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: by Temptation. We can look at that. Oh, boy. That
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: was the beginning.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: We can look at Death by Temptation and compare that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: with the sequel since we're pulling out the first season.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we're going to look at
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: your first season. Yeah, that's going to be fun, too.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That's really a bad idea. That's a bad idea. We're
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: going to do that, and we're going to see how
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that works. Sit show live.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: But that's going to be the fun of it because
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just like it sends me that I had never heard
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: about the you going back by yourself.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's staggering when we get all of us together.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And they're just stories that we're always surprised. But I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: never knew that everyone drops another dime about things I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: didn't know. So not only are we going to watch
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: all 144 episodes, But also, we're gonna bring along as
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: many guests from all 144 episodes to sit here.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: And watch with us. Enough pain to go around.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I'm hoping we get all of the
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Wayans that were alive at the time. Absolutely.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Because their family now has expanded. Their family empire, right,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of performers, many of whom weren't alive to be in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: this show.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Right. have gone on to have amazing careers.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And so many of our friends, I already know I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: can't wait for Eric or Sal.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy. Wren Brown. Damon Wayne.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't wait for all of them
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to hopefully get here.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And then we'll bring in other folks.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Just that we want for whatever's happening so we can
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: talk about it because we're making all this happen because clearly,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: This shows you how much we started at.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: The very beginning. At least you have something. Yeah, I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: did want some things. I... Fill up some space. I
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: want folks to know this is.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: But part of what's supposed to be organic about podcasts
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is not all supposed to be plain.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: No. Supposed to be rough and rugged.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And we just started and today is day one and...
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Here we go with day one. Okay. Are we watching old?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: We should probably look at, because that's a lot of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: setup for day one.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: We can get into all the other stuff at a
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: later time. Yeah, I can say I'm a little nervous.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: You are?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Why? I don't watch me on TV. Well, you're
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: about to watch a lot of you, homie. That's why
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I said, what the fuck did I get myself into?
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: You're about to watch 144 episodes of you. This is
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: another fine mess you've gotten me into. Like, why am
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I going to? But as much as I enjoy.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Another difference between us, I enjoy all performances. Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: But I can be really critical of my own. I'm
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: not going to criticize anybody on this one or that one.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take that with love. But you get
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: me in a room with me and I'd be like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: what the hell was I doing?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: What's so interesting about that is because that is also
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the difference between the two of us.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: We can watch any movie or film and I'll be like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: that's just bullshit. This was garbage.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I couldn't stand it. Like this latest Superman movie was
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the worst.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: That damn dog. I couldn't stand that Superman. Superman got
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: his ass whooped all the time. It was just ridiculous.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I was just sick and tired of that movie. Horrible movie.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I loved it. Oh, my gosh. I had such a
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: good time. I went in there. It was like five
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: people in there. It was the end of its run.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: That's why. And I sat there. That's why there were
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: five people in there. And we all had a time.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: And at the end, it was like, was that really
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: that bad?
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: No.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: The people in the theater with me were.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I thought that was a fluke. The five
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: people in the theater with me. Hey, it was the
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: end of the run. It was the end of the run.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: The end of the run was three days after it started. No,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it stopped. You see? Come on. See what the corporate
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: guy do? Watch out, kids.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But the point is, you will always look for some
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: saving grace.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I'll find something.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: And you're like, well, no, that was actually all right.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: You are always generous to artists in that way.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I am hyper-opinionated about things. Training. No training. You
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: didn't train. If you would have trained.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: My trained eye is what I have. And to see
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: through the nonsense.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: If you'd have spent just nine months in a class
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: with some, and you would have been like, I'm afraid
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take it easy.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I've spent more time in a class than you, sir.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: This is true. Let's just be clear there. And it
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: showed in the sequel.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Ah, well, look.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: It really showed up in the sequel.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: But that's also what's interesting is that I can watch
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: myself all the time.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Because I, like you, I am critical of my performances,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: but I always learn from. So I'm like, oh yeah,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that wasn't what you wanted. Like, no, that wasn't bad.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Or I wish I could do that. And with a
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: different world, particularly when I watch it, I know I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was playing big for the joke and I had the freedom.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: To do that. Ron did a lot of, Hijinx. Was
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: she naked? Yeah, yeah. The best. Classic. The best. And
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: by the way, that was an ad lib. Was she naked?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And in the sequel, and it's too early for spoilers,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's been out for a while, but some of my
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: favorite lines in the sequel are all ad lib. And
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the fact that producers kept it. And they thought, right
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: on point. And Uh, and I, I really appreciated it.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Button man. That's what y'all used to call me. Button man.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: And I was trying to put a button on, on
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of things.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Run him out there. He'll do something. He'll do something.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: We'll find a few that work or no, but it'd
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: be something different every time.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Um, you come a long way, son. Uh, well, well, well, gee,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you so much. You've awfully kind. Yes.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Uh, so we should probably get ready. We're going to look,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we're going to start with season one. Episode one. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: in this first season, when we get ready to watch,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: our titles are always a subject of conversation. Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: They have been.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Recreated by HBCUs, birthday parties for decades of whichever one
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you want. And certainly the ones that Debbie shot with the... Yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: once we got Debbie and Patty's... Aretha. Aretha's version and
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Boyz II Men's version. Yeah, it just became an event.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: A thing.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: What are they going to look like?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that from season one to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: season two, everyone thought we would be like the Cosby
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: show and change them every year.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: And we didn't. We only changed them twice. Well, technically
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: three times.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: From the first to the second. From the first So
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the second one she did, and then the third one
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that I think went for the end. And third one,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: we had producers in there and other folks.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Everybody got to be a part of that. The Phoebe
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Snow version and the credits from the first season, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: still think are phenomenal.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. The colors.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: It was, it was, I think these guys were, I
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: think may have been known for either video or music
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: videos or commercials.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: And it was a team, a two, a two man team.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: And they came on and we went out on a
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Saturday and Sunday and went to a couple of locations
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: and neighborhoods and they got an old truck and put
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: a piano on it and just did all these kinds
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: of things. And, Had us doing crazy, like, okay, now
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: you're going to wash the car. Okay, now you're going
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: to slide off the car and we're going to throw
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: water on you. Now we're going to have a water fight. Like,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: just all kind of wild stuff that kids do. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: they captured it beautifully. I thought it was some of
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: my favorites to look at. And then Lenny pops up
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: in the end credits.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, you know. Not the opening credits.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: The end credits? But at the end credits.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: You see Lenny in the background. Stop it. He's playing
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Freedom Train.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: He was playing a demo of Freedom Train. And he
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: was bopping in the back. And we was all, it
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: was slow motion. It was all slow motion.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: And we was grooving.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: At least Lil' Coy was sitting up there. I was there.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: And we was just grooving to Freedom Train. And then
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: you see him with the red hair and pulled to
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: a little teeny ponytail.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: And he was bopping. He had his... radio and he
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: just was bopping in the background.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I am today. Years old.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I am today. Years old to know that. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to look at the credits. Yeah.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Cause I'm thinking I have so much of us on
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: film from our first season. Um, Cause I, I recorded
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: not only school days, cause I had a camera back
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: then in 1987.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And it was so rare. People used to say, does
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: that have audio?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's how rare it was to have a camera.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: But so I have video of all of us from
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: that first season, which is so special. Um, so I,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Lenny's around of course. And as with Marissa and Dawn and, uh, we,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: we say Lilacoy.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Most folks don't know her. Um, But, yeah, so we
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: need to jump in. Yeah, okay. And I love me
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: some Phoebe Snow, rest in peace. Yeah, absolutely. She was... Yeah.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And it was funky and all that and... Folky and just,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: it felt good.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so everyone thought, like, the Cosby show that changed...
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: their credits every season. They thought we were going to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: do that every season. They'd be like, honey, why?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're fine. Child, leave them alone. Yeah, right.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: But again, we're not going to go down this because
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: we're still in the first season. So I'll wait till
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: we get to the second season. So in addition to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: us talking about whatever we want, we're going to rewatch
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: all 144 episodes.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a horrible idea.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: But that's going to be great. The problem is we
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: don't talk so long. We ain't got no time to
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: look at it. What do you mean we?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: What do you mean we? What do you mean we?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: This is what you do. No, me, Mr. Count, every
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: name in the back row.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to give us some content and some
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: kind of contextualization of what really.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Happened at the thing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: Gone man this is why we're in trouble we're in
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: so much trouble for doing this show live uh so we're.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Actually gonna have to look at the first episode in
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the next episode yeah come on back come on this
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: gives it this is like a big teaser yeah this
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: is just this is just the appetizer yeah so this
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: is the teaser We'll come back and actually do what we're.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Supposed to do. You're at 52 minutes, guys.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: How about you watch an episode? That's what you're supposed
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: to do. So we're going to do that.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you, though. What the hell?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And for everybody that's tuning in, thank you. We, you know. Share, like, post, recast,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: do all the things you're supposed to do. Yeah, I
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Whatever you do in the world of podcasting, recast, reshare,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: do all of that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Like and subscribe. I think those are the two things. Yeah,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: like and subscribe. Like and subscribe. We only need to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: be number one in the world. Yes, that's it. We
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: don't have any aspirations.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: No.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Like the sequel. We just want to be number one. Boom,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: that part. How about that? That part. All right. We're
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: going to have to figure out what our out is, too.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: See you fuckers later. Okay, that's just rude. Come on.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: That's just rude.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: That's not even original, though.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: See you fuckers later with two fingers up. No.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: No.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Okay. See you motherfuckers soon.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Look, this is the Kadeem Hardison that wants to be
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: part of the Wu-Tang Clan.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that really is.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: We'll figure out what a different worldview's outro is going
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: to be sometime in the future.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Until then, we'll catch y'all on episode two. See you
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: motherfucking later!