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Jlo’s Wedding and Erika Jayne’s Lawsuit Insider · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up. Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 4: Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: What a weekend. So much juice to cover.
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  Speaker 6: And then a little bit later in the show, I
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  Speaker 6: had a great interview with Kimberly Archie. She is my
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  Speaker 6: to explain the latest that has happened with some of
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  Speaker 6: the lawsuits, some that she's personally involved in. what is
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  Speaker 6: what they're, all of it is coming. And it was
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  Speaker 6: really juicy and you guys are going to love it. Um,
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  Speaker 6: but first let me tell you the juiciest news is
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  Speaker 6: San Antonio, Houston, then two shows in Dallas on that
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  Speaker 6: November weekend.
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  Speaker 4: But also, it's kicking.
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  Speaker 6: Off in September with Minneapolis and Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: All those dates, including the ones with Chris.
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  Speaker 4: Get your tickets now. Okay, you guys.
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  Speaker 6: So thank you. I'm finally at 300,000 people on Instagram.
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  Speaker 6: You're probably like, Heather, you loser. I can't believe you've
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  Speaker 6: been on it for that long, and that's how.
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  Speaker 4: Few people you have. Well, social media.
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  Speaker 6: Is a tricky thing. I'm not going to try to
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  Speaker 6: say I can figure it out. algorithms, whatever, showing a titch,
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  Speaker 6: not showing a titch, showing a nipple. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what gets people to follow you, unfollow you. I will
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  Speaker 6: say I really never lose anyone. I just only gain
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  Speaker 6: like two people a month. So whatever, spread the word.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for getting me to 300,000. So anyway, I
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  Speaker 6: follow Bethany Frankel and I came across You know that
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  Speaker 6: she was a bitching on her show, which then she
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  Speaker 6: did a clip on it and about how she believes
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  Speaker 6: in a nutshell that because she reviews these makeup lines
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  Speaker 6: and she talked about and skincare lines and she talked about.
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  Speaker 6: Kim Kardashian skincare line and wasn't very complimentary in general.
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  Speaker 6: And page six wrote about it because they had a
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  Speaker 6: slow day and whatever. And so she then said, my
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  Speaker 6: things aren't getting the views they used to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and what is it about the Kardashians? And, you know, they're,
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  Speaker 6: it's a drug, they're like drug dealers feeding us their
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  Speaker 6: stories all the time. And why is the media doing this?
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  Speaker 6: And look, sometimes you guys think I defend the Kardashians.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 6: Listen, A lot of us wouldn't be able to make
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  Speaker 6: money the way we're making it today if it wasn't
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  Speaker 6: for the Kardashians. Really, honestly, they were the first people
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  Speaker 6: to really launch, you know, making money and selling products
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  Speaker 6: through social media, being your own independent person, having ads
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  Speaker 6: that they could put on their own Instagram. So that's
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  Speaker 6: why I'm like, you know what? Don't shit on the
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  Speaker 6: forefathers of what we do, okay? And also, like, I
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  Speaker 6: just feel that Bethany... is really bitter. I think she's
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  Speaker 6: really like, hey, why don't I have my jets and
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  Speaker 6: things like they do?
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  Speaker 4: And I just feel it coming through her.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't believe that Kim Kardashian, after seeing her
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  Speaker 6: little video on TikTok called The head of TikTok, it
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  Speaker 6: is like, hi, it's Kim. Can you make sure that
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  Speaker 6: Bethany's videos don't get any more views?
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  Speaker 4: I just don't believe it.
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  Speaker 6: There's times, guys, I have one video that got 9.1
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  Speaker 6: million views. And then I'll post something that I think
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  Speaker 6: is funny and great. We'll post it at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: And it's got like 22,000 views. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 4: don't get it.
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  Speaker 6: I just keep doing the grind and giving my people
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  Speaker 6: the content, Heather McDowell content that they love.
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  Speaker 4: I don't freak out.
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  Speaker 6: If one video doesn't do as well as the other
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  Speaker 6: because I'm just like, well, I'll come up with something
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  Speaker 6: new tomorrow. Like, you know, I'm not like, oh, boo hoo,
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  Speaker 6: you know, whatever. So I thought it'd be funny after
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  Speaker 6: my friend sent me her video bitching how she thinks
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  Speaker 6: the Kardashians keeping her from her things being seen. I
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  Speaker 6: then did a TikTok and real where I said, I
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  Speaker 6: think Bethany Frankel is keeping me from getting more views
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  Speaker 6: because I talked about her on my podcast. And I
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  Speaker 6: talked about how she has this cute young guy. And
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  Speaker 6: she did this post about, I found this young guy.
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  Speaker 6: He's like a big brother to Brynn. He's like a
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  Speaker 6: little son to another son to me, even though he
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  Speaker 6: has a mother. She goes, and I mean, his dad's
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  Speaker 6: a steel worker and his mom's a nurse. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: can you believe it? But I still invited him to
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  Speaker 6: the Hamptons. We have nothing in common except that he's
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  Speaker 6: tall and gorgeous and has 10 million TikTok followers.
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  Speaker 4: But oh my gosh, I think we can really help
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  Speaker 4: each other.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, girl, listen, Bethany, you don't do
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  Speaker 6: anything that is not self-serving.
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  Speaker 1: You don't.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I, I just, that's my opinion of watching you.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're funny. I think you're smart. I think
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  Speaker 4: you're talented. I think you give good advice, but I see,
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  Speaker 4: I see it. And I think many people see it.
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  Speaker 6: So thank you for telling us about the products that
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  Speaker 6: you like and you don't like, but I'm telling you
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  Speaker 6: there's an end game to this and that's fine. But
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  Speaker 6: I just don't think like making it about that the Kardashians.
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  Speaker 4: Are coming after you. And then listen, you don't have
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  Speaker 4: to report on them. You don't have to follow them.
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  Speaker 6: Don't be mad that Page Six does 10 articles about
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  Speaker 6: the Kardashians.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, they had nothing to write about that day. Some
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  Speaker 6: girl at Page Six is sitting there going, what am
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  Speaker 6: I going to write about today? Okay, well, Kim, you know,
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  Speaker 6: cut her pubes. All right, Kim has shorter pube hairs now.
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  Speaker 6: And she put it on Instagram. So now I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to write an article about it.
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  Speaker 4: And then you have to fill up your podcast.
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  Speaker 6: And then you decide, I guess I'll talk about the
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  Speaker 6: fact that Kim cut her pubes.
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  Speaker 4: That's your choice. That's my choice.
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  Speaker 6: There's days when I do that too, but it's like,
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  Speaker 6: it's not their fault. It's not their fault. You can,
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  Speaker 6: you can talk about that. There's a, the president of
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  Speaker 6: the new head person at NASA is a girl.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. You can talk about that. She's the first woman.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that on today's show. I thought it was cool.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't really think I was going to mention it on
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop, but now it just popped in my head.
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  Speaker 4: So yay. All right. Let's talk about Kim's pubes. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you'd rather talk about that.
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  Speaker 6: And you're like, Heather, She laser haired them off a
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  Speaker 6: million years ago.
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  Speaker 4: I know that. You think I don't know that? I'm
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  Speaker 4: making an example.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, also, Facebook haunting me this weekend sent me a
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  Speaker 6: memory on my personal Facebook page saying, Heather, we care
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  Speaker 6: about you and the memories you share here. We thought
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  Speaker 6: you'd like to look back on this post from eight
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  Speaker 6: years ago. And this came on Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, you guys. This is really hard.
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  Speaker 6: Because it was J-Lo's fourth wedding, second ceremony to Ben
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  Speaker 6: Affleck that happened this Saturday. And the photo that Facebook
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  Speaker 6: sends me, like you think they don't know what's going
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  Speaker 6: on in our brains? They freaking do. They send me
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  Speaker 6: this memory from eight years ago. Not a Saturday from
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  Speaker 6: seven years ago. Not a memory from nine years ago.
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  Speaker 6: One from eight years ago that just happens to.
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  Speaker 4: Be J-Lo and I, when we were hanging out. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You think that's not, like, crappy? You don't think that's
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  Speaker 6: not hurtful that we're not friends anymore? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's like, I get it. Anyway, no, I wasn't invited.
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  Speaker 6: And then I was wondering, well, was Leah Remini? Because
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  Speaker 6: they always talk about them being BFFs.
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  Speaker 4: I don't, I, listen. She wasn't there.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not starting a rumor that they had a rift,
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  Speaker 6: that they're no longer friends, but she was not there
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  Speaker 6: because I went to her Instagram and she didn't post
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  Speaker 6: anything about it.
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  Speaker 4: Not on stories, not on the grid. There is no, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know what? Maybe there is a way.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe she's so scared, like the way Jill Zarin was
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  Speaker 6: scared that she posted about Teresa's wedding and they used
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  Speaker 6: all her photos, like they used all the Jill Zarin photos.
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  Speaker 6: And she was like, why did I have to be
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  Speaker 6: the first one to post? Maybe she, maybe they can't post.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe they can't post because I'd be shocked if Leah
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  Speaker 6: Remini didn't go. But maybe she's also like filming a
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  Speaker 6: movie or something.
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  Speaker 4: And it was also like, I'm good. Now, Page Six.
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  Speaker 6: Was real thirsty. The girl working at Page Six was like,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, my God. Listen, Page Six girl, you could
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  Speaker 6: have wrote about my TikTok about how I thought best.
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  Speaker 6: was keeping me shadow banned. By the way, that was
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  Speaker 6: a joke. For all the people that got that I
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  Speaker 6: was joking, I was joking. I don't know if Bethany
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  Speaker 6: thought it was a joke because she did block me
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  Speaker 6: from TikTok. So Bethany, you probably don't like what I
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  Speaker 6: said about you today either, but like, you know, girl,
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  Speaker 6: I still enjoy you.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: So Anyway, I guess I won't be able to enjoy
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  Speaker 6: you on TikTok anymore, Bethany. But oh, gosh, I know
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  Speaker 6: she's got I don't don't block me from Instagram because
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  Speaker 6: I still want to see, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Which wet and wild gloss you like best.
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  Speaker 6: OK, so page six, just desperate to write anything said.
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  Speaker 6: Ben Affleck's ex-wife, Jennifer Garner, won't be attending his upcoming
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  Speaker 6: wedding to Jennifer Lopez in Georgia, even though their three
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  Speaker 6: children will be. I mean, talk about grasping at straws,
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  Speaker 6: page six. The comments were like, really? Did you expect
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  Speaker 6: her to go? Did you expect her to go? That
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  Speaker 6: would be so weird. Mark Anthony wasn't there either. Neither
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  Speaker 6: was Casper. Neither was a A-Rod, neither was the dancing
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  Speaker 6: first husband or second husband, neither was the waiter first husband.
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  Speaker 6: None of them were invited, okay? So whatever, they had
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  Speaker 6: to write something. But the good news is, is that
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  Speaker 6: her lookalike daughter was. The adorable Jennifer Garner lookalike who's
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  Speaker 6: Ben Affleck's oldest daughter, Violet, She was there in Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: So that was nice. She went. Then we saw some photos.
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  Speaker 6: They said, everybody wear white, which is kind of becoming
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  Speaker 6: a new thing. Also, I think when it's your fourth wedding,
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  Speaker 6: you're like, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: Just everyone wear white.
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  Speaker 6: Aesthetically, the photos look amazing. It really, really looks good.
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  Speaker 6: And if you really know your J-Lo, it's not like
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  Speaker 6: you're ever going to be upstage. Because in the olden days,
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  Speaker 6: it was like only the bride wears white. And if
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  Speaker 6: you show up wearing white and you're just a guest
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  Speaker 6: or something or the mother of bride or the mother
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  Speaker 6: of the groom and you're wearing white, like horrible unless
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  Speaker 6: you're told to wear white.
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  Speaker 4: All white wedding parties were in the late 90s.
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  Speaker 6: I was in one. So I was a bridesmaid. I
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  Speaker 6: wore a white dress. That is coming back with all
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  Speaker 6: the party wears white. But now the guests are. When
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  Speaker 6: I went to Kim Kardashian's second wedding, they said wear
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  Speaker 6: white or black because aesthetically I think they thought that
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  Speaker 6: would look better too, that there isn't like prints and
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  Speaker 6: purples and pinks. And then I was scared because I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: is this a trick? Do they really want me to
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  Speaker 6: wear white? But I did end up wearing a white dress.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was the cutest one. And they were like,
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  Speaker 6: it was fine. I was still invited to parties for
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  Speaker 6: years after that. And then I wore a long red
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  Speaker 6: dress the same year that Chris wore a long red
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  Speaker 6: dress to her Christmas party. And so did Caitlin. So
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  Speaker 6: the three of us were in long red dresses. And
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  Speaker 6: that was the last time I was invited to the party.
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  Speaker 6: So you do the math, you figure it out. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm looking at the id, I'm zooming in. I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was kind of an interesting choice.
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  Speaker 6: It's like kind of conservative at the top. We don't
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  Speaker 6: have any like up close photos, but the sleeves are
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  Speaker 6: kind of weird. It's like high up top and then
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  Speaker 6: like a short kind of flowy sleeve.
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  Speaker 4: So very different.
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  Speaker 6: And then a super long train, but pure, pure white
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  Speaker 6: and everybody could work, but they could wear white. Like
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  Speaker 6: they could wear shorts and coffee boots. The guys could
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  Speaker 6: wear golf shorts. Like it was not, it wasn't like
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  Speaker 6: black tie, but wear white. It was what any, whatever
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  Speaker 6: kind of white gig get up, you want to wear,
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  Speaker 6: you can wear. And then of course there was, Oh,
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  Speaker 6: it was, um, this guy, Jay Shetty, who's like a
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  Speaker 6: life coach podcaster. He's the one that did the ceremony again, JLo. Um,
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  Speaker 6: I am an officiant. I married Chris Vangela and his wife, Liz,
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  Speaker 6: but I've never been asked to do it since.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever. I cried a lot, possibly made it about me.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't seem to mind. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: We were all, speaking of Chris Vangela, people are very
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  Speaker 6: disturbed by the fact that they had a lot of live, laugh,
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  Speaker 6: love type of signage, white writing on brown wood. They
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  Speaker 6: went to HomeGoods, like right before, and they wrote Jennifer
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  Speaker 6: and Ben, Baby, I Love You.
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  Speaker 4: Heart and Soul was one of them. There was another.
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  Speaker 4: Love Never Fails. Love Always Protects. It Always Trusts.
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  Speaker 6: These were everywhere throughout this Georgian plantation. Oh, and a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people were like, really? You got married at
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  Speaker 6: a Georgian plantation?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But they also said they couldn't have treated the staff better.
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  Speaker 4: They treated the staff very, very nice.
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  Speaker 6: That I just read in Elle magazine, who said there
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: isn't that much juicy gossip. I'm like, why don't you
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: just call it juicy scoop gossip? No, you can't, because
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  Speaker 6: if you write that, it's trademarked.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, Elle.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, Casey Affleck, younger brother, they caught him getting Starbucks
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  Speaker 6: on Saturday. Just as my notice came in about my
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  Speaker 6: memory from eight years ago, Casey Affleck was getting Starbucks.
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  Speaker 6: And they caught up with him. Why aren't you at
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  Speaker 6: the wedding, Casey? And he's like, I have other things
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 4: Well, nobody knew why. What's the riff? People are talking.
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  Speaker 4: The girl at page six typing away. Anyway, or guy.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, his girlfriend wrote something under a post that he
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  Speaker 6: did about his son, who obviously is not with the
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  Speaker 6: mother because he has a girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the girlfriend is the mother. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, the kid played soccer, but also like broke his arm.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe he broke his arm a while ago. I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: but she made some comment about, of course you have
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  Speaker 6: to be here. Who would watch your son and his
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  Speaker 6: broken arm or something like that?
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  Speaker 4: She since deleted that comment, but of course somebody caught it. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows? It could be.
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  Speaker 6: That he does have a custody situation with his child's
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  Speaker 6: mother and he literally didn't want to screw it up
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  Speaker 6: or ask her to switch weekends. And he was just like,
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  Speaker 6: you know what? If you don't care, Ben, I'd rather
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  Speaker 6: just not go. And Ben could be like, no, I'm
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  Speaker 6: completely fine with you not attending. I don't look, I
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  Speaker 6: don't even want this wedding. Like I thought we were
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  Speaker 6: good when we did in Vegas. I was so happy
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  Speaker 6: she was down to do Vegas. And then she sprung
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  Speaker 6: this on me and I'm like, fine, we can do
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  Speaker 6: it at the Georgia mansion. Go to the soccer game.
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  Speaker 6: Go get your Starbucks. I don't care, but just know
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  Speaker 6: you're going to get some shit for it. And Heather
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  Speaker 6: McDowell of Juicy Scoop is probably going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: But hopefully she understands.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I do. I do. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: He just, he was just like, we're good. Now the
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  Speaker 6: girlfriends probably was like, really?
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  Speaker 4: Really, Casey? I'm free. Okay.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: I'm free to go to JLo's wedding. I have a
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: cute white dress that isn't too revealing. It does not
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: have a cap sleeve like her wedding dress. And I'm
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: pretty down to go. And he's like, no, we're good.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And then she's maybe too early in the relationship. So
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: she's like, I'm not going to push it. Like, I'm
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: not going to be that girl.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: It's like, really? You're not taking her to your brother's wedding? Anyway,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: he didn't attend. So there you go for the wedding news,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: you guys.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Listen, what did I say when I talked about the
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: love is blind couple that is got married and then
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: announced their divorce. I said, I wonder if there's another
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: love is blind couple that was planning on announcing their divorce.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: And now we're like, shoot, do we wait two months?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: We're miserable. Or do we do it now with the momentum? Well,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: they did.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: The only other couple that got married on season two
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: of love is blind. Danielle, um, rule H R U
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: H L. She's a brunette. She married this blonde guy.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: She had like some insecurity issues. I don't even, I,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Literally don't remember it. Even I watched, I watched every episode.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: They got married. They too are, they too announced their divorce.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they did a big long statement
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: about protecting their privacy or whatever, but they're out. I'm
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: telling you guys, next prediction, these thirst traps are going
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: to try to do love is blind round two. Love
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: is Blind goes on tour. They are going to try
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: to do something with this. And that is why when
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: the other couple did it, they said, you know what?
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: There's a little momentum now. Let's not wait two more months,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: even though Heather suggested that. I say, let's do it
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: right now and let's all get back on the show
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: going through it again. And hopefully there'll be like another
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: couple from season one that breaks up and all of
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: us can do it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And it's like round two, Love is Blind.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We get
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: into this with Kimberly in a little, but some interesting
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: things happened over the weekend.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: First of all, speaking of Erica.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: One thing we talk about in the interview coming up
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: in a few minutes is about gifts and people who
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: received money from Tom Girardi, whether that might be a
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: politician who got donations, a charity that got donations.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Or, in fact, gifts.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: So you remember when Erica went off and revealed on
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Instagram right around the time that she filed for divorce
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: that Tom had been having an affair with this female
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: judge for many years, and she shared text messages that
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: she found on his flip phone in which she was
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: showing pictures of her ass, this judge, and saying that,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you know, can you get the plastic surgery, daddy, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: all this kind of stuff. Anyway, via that judge's attorney,
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: she is returning gifts that he gave her. She doesn't
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: want them in her possession. And from what I understand,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: her attorney's like, so here we go. Now, we don't
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: know if any.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Plastic surgery was done.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Where they can prove that it was paid with from
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: money that was in an escrow account for the victims.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: But at least some of these items, whether they are
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: paid from that or not, she has made the smart
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: move to just be like, let me remove everything. Here's
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: a necklace. Here's some lingerie. I mean, that'd be pretty
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: embarrassing to like return your.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Lingerie, but who knows?
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I think anything of any real value that he gave
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: her that was a proven gift from him, she's just like,
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: get it the hell out of my house, please.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So that happened. That's pretty.
• 20:49
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• 20:52
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• 20:55
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• 21:15
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• 21:19
  Speaker 7: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: filed against me.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: I need a home dad.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: What happens next?
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: happens next.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: You're worth the work.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: Juicy. Uh, Lisa Renna posted Aspen receipts, like as if
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: they're actually like receipts in an envelope and then wrote
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: silencing scolding.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: We are now finally on the.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Cusp of the episodes where the girls go to Aspen
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: and something happens off camera. And then they all go
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: after Kathy Hilton. Um, it was, The biggest highlight of
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Wednesday's episode was the Homeless Not Toothless charity event in
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: which Kathy Hilton said, look, I'm sorry I'm getting it wrong.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: I've worked with the homeless. I've worked with the toothless.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Remember when I told you about the famous pilot reality
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: show episode that I saw that was on YouTube and
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: then got removed? That was about the homeless. They were
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: trying to help the homeless. She, Kathy, and Kyle. That's
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: what the reality show was going to be about. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: the guy filming it was like heavy breathing. And it
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: was a song that came out.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: With Beverly Hills. That's what I want. And they're making sandwiches.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: And Kim Richards is going up to a homeless woman
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: asking if she could take her for a pedicure and
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: if she would like to learn how to work a computer.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: It....
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: If anybody has it in their possession, I'm telling you,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: if you're a friend of the Hiltons, you need to
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: destroy that stuff. And if you're not, can you send
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: it to me again? I would just like to watch it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Anyway, we're going to see that.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Diana is coming after trying to defend herself because... she
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: got in it with Sutton and it's, it's very much
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: like Sutton and Garcelle are kind of up against the
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: rest of the girls. And she's defending herself in like
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: tweets and posts and things. And nobody cares about Diana.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Nobody cares about her young baby daddy. Who's playing the
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: piano and wearing a hat and like, whatever, nobody, nobody cares.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden she just happens to
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: walk down the stairs and it's like, He doesn't know
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: that I'm here to hear him play.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Really? The cameras are all around. Really, Diana?
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: I just, I also saw something that she's got like
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: the lowest approval rating. I mean, it's not like she's Biden,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: but like the lowest rating of like people enjoying her
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: as a new cast member. If someone was to do
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: a rating, I don't know how they would do that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: But anyway, then some stuff went down with Lisa Vanderpump.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Apparently, Teddy on her show.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Said, you know, because Lisa Rinna was so awful in
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: this episode.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Screaming and fighting and pointing.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: And to the fans, a lot of people are pretty
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: much like, this really was the acting job of a lifetime.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Lisa Rinna took this job and she was like, I
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: know how to bring up drama. I know how to act.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I can kind of create stuff and fights.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I can cry properly. you know, on cue, I can
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: do it. So let me do it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: And I think she probably told, uh, Denise, like, Hey,
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: you should do it. It's a great acting gig. You,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: you know, you can just bring the drama when.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You have to get angry. You can have fun. You
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: can laugh.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that was the case, but I'm thinking, um,
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: and that's also probably why Denise felt so betrayed. Like
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I thought we were just going to have fun and
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: like occasionally like act dramatic with each other. I didn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: know you were going to like tell the, exposed to
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: the world, you know, that like maybe Brandy fingered me
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: or not.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Like what the hell?
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: So anyway, getting to this, Teddy goes on and is like, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't know why the audience is acting
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: this way or something because let's, Lisa Rinna was really
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: close to her mom. And so she's acting like a
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: horrible person. She's acting mean because her mom, her mom died.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: So we should cut her some slack. By the way,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: I just saw a, um, a tick tock of Lisa
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: being like, I don't know. Lisa run is saying, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: don't know why people are freaking out about me this season.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Maybe they're just too sensitive because I've been a lot
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: meaner in previous sentence, uh, previous seasons. I'm kind of like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: why are you like relishing in this of just being
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: like so cruel and awful and vicious with like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Your words and, uh, There's so much to dissect with
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Lisa Renna. So I don't know. I think she did.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I think she went hardcore.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: And then when she realized that it really came off
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: that hardcore, she's like, remember you guys, I wasn't myself
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: because I lost my mother. Anyway, Teddy says, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Lisa Vanderpump lost her brother and we got a lot
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: of heat from the fans that we weren't, didn't show
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: her that much grace. for a brother that none of
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: us knew she even had, she had no relationship with him. Well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: that didn't bode well for Teddy because people found a
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: clip from the season where Lisa Vanderpump was mourning the
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: loss of her brother and sitting across from Teddy and
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Teddy is saying, I know how close you were.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: I know you've talked about him a lot.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Definitely knew she had a brother prior to his passing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Then Teddy said, goes on a walk and is talking
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: to her phone and is like, well, it's back. The
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: death threats. I wake up to death threats. And I'm like, well,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: you woke up to death threats because you woke up
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: and you looked at your phone. And I'm sorry I
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: told you guys. These death threats that people get from
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: like robots. I mean, I had the Selena Gomez. Wasn't
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: it Selena who came after me? I had those robots.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I had all the little emojis with a snake and
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: a rat you know, like a mafia, like you're a rat,
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: you know, or whatever, little cement blocks, like they're going
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: to throw me over. I never for one time really
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: thought like my life's in danger.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: So yeah, if somebody is writing something mean to you, like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: come on, do you really, are you going to get
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: the LAPD involved?
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: When we're in like a crisis of crime, you think
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: they're going to like go showing up at Teddy Mellencamp's
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: $ 7 million.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: House and be like, Show me the DM. Show me
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: the DM of the woman from the Midwest that says
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: that you should die.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Like, really? So anyway, I think she regrets what she
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: said on her show. Lisa Vanderpump got to be dragged
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: into this this weekend when she should be celebrating the
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: fact that Sheena Shea is getting married for the second time.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: And she finally wrote, like, it's all good.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Like, just leave me alone was like the last thing
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: she wrote. So there you go with that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: In Real Housewives of Atlanta, um, I just thought this
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: was cute. Marlo dressed up like the Colonel Sanders of KFC.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: And then she and Kanye did not have a great
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: time in Jamaica together. And then at the end, she
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: got some KFC chicken from the Jamaican airport, which supposedly
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: is more delicious there. It tastes different than it tastes
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: everywhere else. And then Candy went over and was like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: can I have a piece of chicken? And so they
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: made up. And it was kind of beautiful. And I
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: was like, I definitely think it was not lost on
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: the producers when they saw her show up.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: In this interview outfit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: And they're like, oh, wait, let's also ask you about
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: the Kentucky Fried Chicken in Jamaica. And then she was
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: dressed like the Colonel Sanders. So there you go. The
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: Real Housewives of Dubai girls are having their reunion. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: they showed their dresses. And they're all super glam except
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: for Caroline Stansbury, who was originally on London.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: She's wearing just like a shirt dress.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't really cover that much, you guys.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I just feel like Caroline Stansbury is miserable. She doesn't
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: really like her husband that much because he doesn't know
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: how pregnancy works. He thinks that you can take the
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: baby halfway out if it's not cooking right and put
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: it into another stomach. So we saw that on the show,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: and that's pretty much.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: All you need to know. And it's just, I couldn't
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: get that into it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: So good luck with the reunion, people. Oh, speaking of
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Pastor Mary, do they call women pastors? Anyway, remember Mary Crosby?
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: There were those from Real Housewives of Salt Lake, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: there were those tapes where she was berating pastors. her
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: congregation that they're cheap and they didn't give her enough
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: birthday cards. We mean like donations for her birthday. And
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: it's pretty appalling. And the audio was out there.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Well, a similar thing happened. The Guardian is reporting.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: In Missouri, a pastor called a congregation cheap for not
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: buying him a luxury watch. And he was It all
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: got out there. The thing went viral. Him being like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I can't believe it. The birthday's come and gone. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: you're so cheap that you did not get me the
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Movado watch that's available at Sam's Club. I know some
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: of you guys have memberships there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: You couldn't give me, he says this, you couldn't give
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: me your McDonald's money. You couldn't give me your Walmart money.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: You couldn't contribute the money to get me this watch.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Anyway, he since said, I'm sorry.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: I cannot believe that if you were sitting in a parish,
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: maybe you're so used to the abuse or whatever that
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: you were like, oh my God, I do feel bad
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: like that. I didn't get him this watch. And then
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: you see the TikTok go viral and you see everyone's.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: And then you're like, wait, you're right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: This is really weird. Shocking. Good news, you guys.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: And just like that, John Corbett is to return as
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Aiden Shaw.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: In season two.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: I'm very, very happy about this. Um, I really, I mean,
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: I think he's hot. Um, I believe his hair is
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: still short. I didn't like it when it was long.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: And when he wore like the turquoise rings and was
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: like a little bit heavier, then he got all like cute.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: And then she still cheated on him and dumped him. And,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: oh no, no, she dumped him when And who cares?
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: We all know what happened in the show. So anyway,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: last we saw him was in the second Sex and
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: the City movie where they meet in Abu Dhabi at
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: the market and she's wearing that big dress and.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: She's like, $ 20 for shoes.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: She's wearing a big tulle skirt and a Dior shirt
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: to shop at the, to buy spices.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: You know, Miranda's like, I'm going to get more spices.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: And She sees Aiden and then he comes to pick
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: her up.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: And instead of her hugging him, she puts her arms
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: and he picks her up with her arms down, down
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: by her.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Legs.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: It was so weird. Anyway, they make out and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: really wanted them to fully bone, but they didn't. Now
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: in there, in that he had three kids and a wife.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: So this is my prediction. They meet up somewhere. And
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: he is separated. Living separately, but not divorced.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: But going through the divorce. And Charlotte's like, I know
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: you're seeing Aiden, but I mean.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: He's not officially divorced. And she's like, Charlotte, I don't
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: think you were officially divorced from the Scotsman when, you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: your attorney, Harry, was getting all up in there.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: So.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: They start getting it on, her and Aiden. And it's
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: hot and it's exciting, but still the podcast guy is
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: still kind of lurking around. And, you know, I thought
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: we were going to date. And she's like, oh, my God.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: And then at one point he's like, I don't think
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: you should meet the boys. I don't think you should
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: meet the boys just yet. But she accidentally somehow meets them.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: And they're now teenagers, Aiden's boys.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: And it's a football almost goes by her head. She's like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be Marcia Brady, you know, with
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: it hitting her nose.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: She they're dirty. They're smelly. Like, and then Miranda can relate.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Cause you know, she's had to pick up Brady's, uh,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: tandems everywhere. And so she kind of reacts weird. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: he's like, Hmm, I knew you didn't like Pete, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: really you don't like my three sons. They have a
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: weird moment. And, and, Then she finds out that he's
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: still talking to his wife. They break up anyway, and
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: we find out at the end of the season somewhere
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: that he is trying to reconcile with the wife.
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: That's my prediction.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Mark this day down, Annie, for when we watch the season.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Let's see how correct I am.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Okay. Update on sorority life.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Annie.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Who went to Mississippi, who was a Kappa Kappa Gamma,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: is getting people sending her stuff all the time, okay?
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: There's signs all over the houses, sorority houses, no audio
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: or video recording allowed. FIMU, that's one of the big
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: house there, is permitted to make recordings for promotional purposes.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: But nobody in there.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Now, We still don't know because the articles that I've
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: seen that in fact, that this documentary for HBO Max
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: about Alabama rush is happening. They're saying it's happening, but
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: we don't really, really know how much information they got.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: If they're just reporting it from, I think they probably
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: got a little and just like, you know, these Hulu
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: docs that did Erica Jane and, I think they'll just
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: get people that are aware of sorority life in general.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: They'll be all the talking heads.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: They'll find a couple people that aren't related to Bama Rush,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: but that had an awful experience or had a great experience.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: And then they'll just use the little bit that they
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: had from Bama Rush online. to, like, catapult the documentary,
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: which really will be all about sorority life in general
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: from the 1800s to the ups and when it went in,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: when it was really in style, when it went out
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: of style in the late 60s, when it went back
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: in style in the 80s because of Reagan, when it
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: went out of style.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: In the 90s because of Clinton and the way it
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: is now.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Another prediction of what that documentary will be like. That's
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: what it'll be. Also, USC had some juicy scoop happening
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: this weekend. And so I went and found my album. Also,
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to do that dirtbag thing. Annie, we have
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: to work on that. The teenage dirtbag trend on TikTok. Though, like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: I don't have that many pictures of where I'm like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: like laying on the ground puking. Most of them are
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: me in like a debutante ball gown or studying.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, so good luck with that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, I found this thing about, oh, do you
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: remember when USC was fun?
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: And I posted it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: And then some people were like, we're sick of hearing
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: about your sorority stuff. Find something else to post on
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: your Instagram page.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I'm like, God, bitch. Anyway, this is what's happening at USC.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: They, the fraternities, there's like 13 or 14 fraternities and
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: 10 of them have decided to like disassociate from the
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: USC Interfraternal Council. They can, I guess, still keep their houses,
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: but now they won't have to abide by all the rules.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: And I don't really know what they're missing out by
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: doing this. Except USC goes, well, you can't wear anything
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: that says, like, USC and Sigma.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Chi on it together. Okay. Okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: I wish I could, like, talk to a kid from
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: there why they decided. A lot of the houses that
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: have never been in trouble, a lot of these fraternities
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: that have never been in trouble, never been accused of anything,
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: they also decided we want to, you know, remove ourselves
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: from it, too, because we didn't have any fun.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Like, we didn't have any fun for the last couple
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: of years. There's probably been COVID. Then there were all
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: these restrictions.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: We only have a couple of years left here or
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: one year left, and we want to have a fun year.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: We want to have parties.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: And we've gone through all these other things we've done.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: We've hired our own security. We have sober rooms. We
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: have people in hallways making sure that nothing's happening. We
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: have this other section. If someone thinks they're ODing or
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: doing drugs, there's a place to test it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Like they did all these things.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: And then still the school was like, no, you can't
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: have any parties for this many months. No. Now it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: been extended to this many months. That's what happened last year.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: That's what I read in the LA times. And so
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: then they all got together and they're like, now are
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: sorority girls really going to be like, we don't think
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: we want to go to that party.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Hell no.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So it's USC who's freaking out.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: It's USC who's like, shoot, maybe we did put a
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: little too much restrictions on it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And now we have no control at all. So it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: pretty juicy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: But it definitely was a lot more fun when I
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: was there. We had a lot more fun. But at
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: least you can watch TikToks of people's fancy dorm rooms
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: while you're sitting in your sad dorm room not having
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: any fun in college. One of the things I noticed
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: were these dorm rooms things that I've seen people posting.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: And some of them are from these big sorority houses
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: in the south. But they're the dorm rooms, so they're
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: not even in the sororities. But even women I know
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: that are like my friends have moved their daughters into
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: their dorm rooms.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: It looks so gorgeous. I mean, I don't even know.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: All I remembered when I went was just bring your bedding.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: And I.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: went and got my bedding and that was it. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: didn't know to like hang things. My mom literally, like
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: she didn't even make the bed. They were like, well, bye.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: And then they went to Gladstones and my dad said, oh,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: your mother cried the whole way to Gladstones.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, she could have helped me make my bed.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Like I had no decorations, nothing.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: I have never been more happy to be a boy,
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: a boy mom today because I tried to tell Drake,
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: can I please buy you some things?
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: I wasn't going to buy him.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: A headboard and a couch and, I mean, dressing tables,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: matching lamps. There's actual decorators that do this. They probably
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: also do balloon art for parties and pillows on the
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: beach to eat.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: And they probably also do... shark cootery boards. Okay.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: These are all the same people that do this. They're
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: really talented. I have none of these genes in my body.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm just like, thank God. I, Drake literally would
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: not let me buy him anything. He got there and
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: he spent an entire year without any light. It was,
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: he didn't even have a lamp. And then he wondered
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: why he hated the dwarves.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what?
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, God, look at these girls and look what
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: they have. Anyway, I think it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Must be stressful for moms and daughters that do not
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: have the bank account, do not have the style for this,
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: don't even know how to go about it, or maybe
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: they don't know their doormate anyway. And then to have
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: to see it all on Instagram. You wouldn't know about
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: it otherwise. I didn't know how cute everybody else's dorm
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: room was unless I actually walked in and it was like, oh, shit,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: that's a lot cuter than mine.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't have to see all different kinds. I'm like, mom.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Why didn't you go to a furniture store instead of
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: going to Gladstones?
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Anyway, I survived. You will too. All right.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Before I bring out Kimberly Archie, I just remembered one
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: more juicy thing about Real Housewives of OC. As you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Tamara has returned and Vicki is her friend. But of course,
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: she would have loved to been asked first or with her.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: But certainly she wasn't happy. She wasn't invited at all.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: And she did an interview and she said, well, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: don't know why they they didn't pick me. I don't
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: know why they picked Tamara over me. Maybe because Tamara
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: likes to show her tits. I don't, I don't do that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, really Vicki, that's what you're going to
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: throw out there. You think that a bunch of people
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: sat around at Bravo and was like, you know what?
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: We should bring back.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Either Tamara or Vicki from Bravo.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: We can't bring them both back. Well, I vote for Tamara. Why?
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Uh, because, um, you know, she's 54, 55, and she's
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: willing to show her tits.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: And I just think that's what the women.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: At home who watch this really turn their TV on for.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: It's seeing other women their age jumping in a pool drunk,
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: showing their tits.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: That's why they watch the show.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: So if Vicki's not going to show her tits, we've
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: got to go with Tamara.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: All right, call her up.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Are you serious, Vicki? And then, of course, she's like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I was just sad. It would have been fun to
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: do it together. But, of course, I'm happy for her.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: We know, listen, we know you weren't thrilled.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: We know, Vicki, if right now Tamara called you up
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: and said, Vicki, I just couldn't take it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: It's so unfun without you. I had to quit. Do
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: you really think Vicki would be like, Tamara, stop it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: You're crazy.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: Get that paycheck and have fun and show your tits.
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: No.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Vicki would be like, well, I told you it wouldn't
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: be fun without me. That's what would happen. Okay.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: Now for my interview with Kimberly Archie, let's get into it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Now I can say it all again.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have returned guest
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Kimberly Archie. Welcome back. You're our girl that knows everything
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: about Erica Jane, Tom Girardi, the lawsuits, what's happening now.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: Of course, you were on the Hulu doc, and now
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: you're a famous person from Juicy Scoop.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Congrats.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Woo! I put it on my resume. Oh, my God.
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: Well, let's a little bit just talk about Real Housewives
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: of Beverly Hills this season, because you've said you are
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: watching it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: And you're watching it with your best friend, Kathy, who
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: is the mother of Joe, who we saw in the doc,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: who is... Explain where they are in the lawsuits and everything,
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: just to catch people up.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Well, the Rogomas family is really the victims of Tom,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: who were the first ones ever to really be able
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: to stop him from stealing their money.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: And so they.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Got a $ 12 million judgment from Tom, and that sort
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: of set off the whole ricochet of events. That's how
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: you had Erica divorce him after that, because they kept
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: serving her to be deposed in that case. And then
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: once she filed for divorce, then you had Edelson jumped
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: in with the lawsuit out there because that's the Chicago,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: the Chicago case, right? The Lion Air case, the widows
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: and orphans, of course, everybody, at least luckily, you know,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: seems to remember them often in discussing like the fans
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: often remember the Lion Air victims, which.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Is nice to see. And so then that happened.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: And then you had the bankruptcy, which I was one
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: of the creditors that filed against Tom into involuntary bankruptcy.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Okay. So we're caught up on that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: Now you have some juicy scoop from the deposition. So
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: let's talk about that and explain what this deposition is
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: about and when it happened.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: You know, I was thinking about how everyone keeps talking
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: about like how oh, there's been no crime or we
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: don't know or it's alleged. So, you know, I was
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: rereading Tom's deposition transcripts from the Rogomez's case in his
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: debtors exam. And, you know, of course, we saw on
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: the Hulu doc the one clip where he says, oh,
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: I had 50, 80 million bucks or whatever.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Now it's all gone.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: So I just want to point that out again, because, yes,
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: there has not been any criminal charges because Tom is
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: saying he has Alzheimer's. Some psychiatrist in Orange County is
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: signing off on that. So we haven't seen any investigation
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: from a criminal perspective of Tom yet. However, fans, journalists,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: everybody should realize that Tom has admitted to stealing the
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: victim's money. And not just the Ragomezes have been proven,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: but the Lionair victims is a proven case that their
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: money was stolen, $ 2 million dollars. Another woman named Judy
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Solberg and then also Josie Hernandez, who was also in
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: the Hulu doc.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: All of those cases are proven. So people want to.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Go on to talk about allegations and the decades that
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: he's been accused of doing this. OK, that's perhaps fair,
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: although probably doesn't feel good to the people that know
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: they got their money stolen and haven't been able to.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Prove it yet. But he has admitted to stealing the money.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: So it's not alleged. We need to stop saying it's alleged.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: And this came up because of Erica talking on the
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: show and saying how, oh, we don't really know if
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: the victims lost their money. Well, that's weird because the
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: same day she said that on the show, the California
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Bar took Tom's license because of those cases that I
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: just mentioned.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: They were all listed. Judy Salberg, the Lion Air victims.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Josie Hernandez, they're all in the document saying, you know,
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: these are cases of example of why Tom should not
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: have a law license.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: So it's not alleged. It's admitted.
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: Erica, how in a platform to push Tom's narrative is
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: just makes my blood boil because and my phone blows
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: up from victims, you know, all upset hearing her talk
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: about them.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: You know, when they're watching the show, when they're watching
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Most of the victims are watching, you know, you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like a train wreck. Like you don't
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: want to watch, but you feel like you feel compelled
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: that you have to.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, right.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: That's really how I started watching the season. I had
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: never seen like a whole episode or anything until I
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: watched that episode for Hulu.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: And, you know, I watched it here and there last season.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: But this season's been different because, you know, for her,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: for Erica to return on another season of the show
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: and be paid another exorbitant amount of money. And then
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: her narrative is that she's, drunk and having sex and
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: the victims are liars.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah well you know um i've gotten a lot of
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: good d let me tell you baby yeah really honestly
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: oh and also i just want to point out that
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: now she is acting like she's a 25 year old
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: influencer making a great cocktail this is how i make
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: an old fashion i mean.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: I'm so i just want to just so then we're
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: gonna get back.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: Is this like new Yeah, I just noticed she started
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: doing it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I hadn't seen that. And look, I mean, she's got
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: to do it. She's got to join OnlyFans. She's got
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: to do this. Oh, right. And she joined OnlyFans.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, none of the victims are holding
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: her back from having sex or, you know, being human
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: or anything. But, you know, it still is disgusting that
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: we've yet to see her have any sort of kindness
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: or anything towards the people who suffered. She still thinks
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: she's the biggest victim. of Tom Girardi instead of his accomplice.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: And that's quite an interesting narrative for somebody who benefited
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: to the degree that she did from.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: The money that he stole. It's stolen money. Right.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: So let's get into some of the things that you
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: just read me from the depot because those, that, that
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: was pretty interesting.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: You know, so of course there's only, you know, certain things,
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: documents and things that are, you know, out there in
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: the public or, you know, on websites or have been
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: tweeted out by one of our great friends.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Ron Richards. I'll let you say his name.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Who's no longer special counsel.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, so in this deposition were a
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: lot of things that, you know, are very telling about,
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: you know, who's who, like, for example, There's one part
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: where they asked Tom straight out.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: And this is in 2020. This was taking place. Right.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: This is in October 2020.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: So now she's been on the show for a few years.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: We've seen her live her life. And this is now
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: coming down.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: And this is like a month before she files for
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: divorce or like two months. You know, you're talking about
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: very soon, you know, time period from when he sits
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: for this debtor's exam and when she leaves him. So
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: they ask him about the planes. And ask him directly,
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: does Erica have access? Is she allowed to use the
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: planes for her own use? He flat out says no.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: That's not what's on the show. And it's not how
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: she portrays.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: But when he's under oath, he's saying like, yeah, I mean,
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: these are my planes. She rides with me. But, you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: they're not for her use. That's hilarious because isn't she
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: on the show like, we have two planes and One can,
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: you know, jump across the U.S. and the other one,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: you don't need gas to go to Europe.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: You know, we're fabulous. Whatever. I can't do voices. Oh, right.
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: I know, but I remember, you know, we see, I
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: can't remember when, but, you know, the girls get on
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: the plane for something and the Bravo people film it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I remember we saw it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: And so Hattie, so if you'd said, yes, she does
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: and she has used it and, you know, there might
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: be a trip or two that there's visual evidence of
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: How would that have hurt him if he had said that?
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Well, if he was writing off the planes as 100
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: percent expenses for, you know, his business or for pretty
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: mess or whatever, even like it. But Tom owned the
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: plane with another attorney. So for a long time, the
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: planes were owned in a corporation with him and Walter Lack. Now,
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: in 2018, him and Walter Lack sort of had separations
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: of sorts, at least with the planes anyway. And then
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: he put it into a corporation with another guy named Edelman.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: So that's who sort of has control of them now.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: Edelman does. Right. Even though Edelman is suing him now. No,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: that's Edelson. Oh, this is confusing. Edelman.
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a lot.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I know, lawyers.
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: Like, yeah.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of lawsuits, Sutton. There's a lot.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Which one? Get in line. I mean, that was a
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: great scene.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: You know, the whole drawn-out thing about Sutton being the
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: liability rather than it being Erica and then Erica, like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: hissing at her that I told you to shut up. No,
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: you told her to keep her mouth shut because you
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: didn't want to have any lash back.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: You weren't telling her to be quiet to protect anyone.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Like if she like, for example, you know, Ruth Madoff.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You just really never heard from her again.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Like she moved to Florida, lived with her sister for
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: a couple of years, kept her mouth shut. Then eventually
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: she moved to Connecticut and lived in one of her
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: son's houses.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Just to remind everybody, Ruth Madoff is a Madoff the
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: Ponzi scheme guy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: But what was his name? What was his first name?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Bernie Madoff. Bernie Madoff. Yes.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: He just passed away not that long ago. So interestingly,
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: And in that juicy story and sad, one of the
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: sons actually committed suicide.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: Which it seemed very much that it was a circumstantial suicide.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Somebody just asked me the other.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Day, had anybody who worked at Geordie Keys, has anybody
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: committed suicide yet? And I was like, oh my God,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: you know, I was like, no, no. I mean, there
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: was an attorney that had a heart attack as all
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: this was like imploding, sitting at his desk at work,
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: which was really sad for, I mean, he had a
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: young wife and kid.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, he wasn't that old. He was, Oh, he
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: passed because he passed away. He had a heart attack
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: and passed away. Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: So, you know, obviously we don't know if the stress
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: was related to it or not, but it does make
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: you wonder, you know, these kinds of things are really serious.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: That's why it's so shocking. You know, we saw in
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: the L.A. Times article just recently, well, they had a couple. And,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: you know, when you see it said this is the
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: largest legal scandal in California history. California is the fifth
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: largest economy in the world. It could be its own country.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: This is the biggest legal scandal in California history.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: It's kind of a big deal.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think even now, and it's been over a year,
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: year and a half since the bankruptcy, that we even
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: have begun to understand the number of people that Tom
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: harmed and.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: The people who helped him. I mean, that's the big
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: question from all the victims right now. Like, what about
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: all the people who helped him? What about them? Not
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: just Erica.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: And the victims really aren't concerned about Erica being like
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: the person who stole their money because they don't see
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: it that way or at least the ones that talk
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: to me. It's more about how she benefited from it
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: and that she's so brassy about it. And it's hard
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: when you're sitting in your house that needs repairs and
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: your money was stolen and you're watching her.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Right. And I mean, that's tough.
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: I mean, according to her though, if you're going to
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: be like, you know, it's, I don't have anything. She
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: said that in one of the confessionals, she's like, do
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: you think I want this life? You know, do you
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: think this life sucks or whatever? She said, you know,
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: she's like, my house sucks, but you know, I'm not,
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: I'm no longer married. I don't longer have my house.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: I don't no longer have my life. Like, you know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: so my, so she's in like her defense, if you're
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: going to be like pro Erica, Okay, from a different standpoint. She,
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: you know, her house is still nice and she's on
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: a show, but she's basically, you know, presenting that she's
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: like kind of starting over and just living.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Off of her money. Are all of us that were
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: around her? Oh, I agree. Yeah, I mean, I agree.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: She's not alone in that either. So, you know, ask
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: the partners.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: So when you say who else, you know, helped and
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: benefited besides Erica, Erica benefited, but who helped pull off
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: this scam?
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Do you mean the other attorneys at Girardi and Keese?
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: It could be.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, who signed, you know, who could sign on
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: the accounts? You know, what about these private judges that
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: were involved in a lot of these settlements and strange deals.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: That we're hearing about?
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, we had our own character in Kathy's case
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: that was used over and over again to make it
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: seem like he was you know, keeping a hold on
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: Joe's money or something or that they he was, you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: helping Tom protect Joe or whatever.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: But that was the whole thing.
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: Like, we don't want to we don't want to give
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: you all the money right now because we don't want
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: you to be taken advantage of. We're going to invest
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: it for you. That's how they kept you. guys Kathy
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: Anderson originally collecting the amount once it was said you
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: have won this amount right they won 12 and they.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Gave him one so yeah so you know to have
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: somebody like Tom see even somebody like me who's close
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: to him I never thought Tom made his crazy money
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: meaning you know being a person of wealth to have,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: to have private planes, you really got to be to
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: quote my brother, a billionaire, not a millionaire, you know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: a billionaire with a B, you know, not a little
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: M because you can't afford to keep the, the, the
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: cost of it to maintain it, to fly it, to
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: deal with all the crew.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: It's in it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: If it's not an expense for a company, it's just
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: a ton of money that you're literally just throwing, you know,
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: out the window. And so, uh, you know, it, it,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: It was always a telltale sign to me that, you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: if Tom had planes, then he must have invested this
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: money and made his money investing. You know, so let's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: say he got a million from a lawsuit and he
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: turned it into 10.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: And this is the impression that he gave you. He
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: was always talking about, oh, I met with so-and-so, so-and-so.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing this.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: I'm invested in that. Oh, you know, I'm dealing with
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: this casino. Oh, we're doing this idea, this patent thing.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: So you're not.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Thinking he made his money just.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: From this one stream.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. But now you wonder how much of it was
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: ever invested in, you know, was he this great business
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: guy that he made people out to believe? His partners
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: thought it too.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: Everyone did. Right.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Not just the Bergomezes. Everyone around Tom. thought that he
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: was this brilliant business guy who had made money in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: the legal profession and had a Rolodex a mile wide,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: which for people who don't know what a Rolodex is,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: that would be your iPhone.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: The contacts section of your iPhone.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Tom's in his 80s.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: He had a flip phone, remember? So he didn't have.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: He had a Rolodex and a flip phone.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: He didn't have an iPhone with contacts in it. So.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Anyway, but yeah, so we didn't think that his money
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: really came from that. So that was one of the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: shocking things that came out of all this is that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: a lot of the money that they had was stolen.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: And we don't know all of the victims going back.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, Kathy's got an Excel spreadsheet a mile long
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: of all the lawsuits over the years. Most of them
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: disappeared or had settlements or they were thrown out because
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: there were times barred. Most of the time, it took
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: people longer than the statute of limitations to figure out
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: that Tom had taken their money or to think that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: he was a bad guy enough to try to do
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: anything about it. So they would go to court and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: eventually they would throw it out and say, well, you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: didn't file it in the right time period.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: They didn't say. nothing wrong was done.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Now, I'm just kind of curious in all these other
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: cases that are not as, you know, maybe not at
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: the 11 million mark that the Rigomezes are. So I'm
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: just wondering, was it kind of like, okay, I'm part
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: of this lawsuit and I heard, whatever they say, I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: got you guys $ 2 million, I'm just saying. So he goes, well,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: here's 800,000 and the rest is coming later. So you're
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: like very happy to get that $ 800, 000.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: And then you're like, well, where's the money? And then
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: you're like, where's the money?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: And then time passes or maybe he throws you another $ 100, 000
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: or something. And you're still like, but wait a minute.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: And now so many years have passed. And then maybe
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: he'll go, well, here, here's another $ 50, 000 and it's done.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: And now they can't afford the attorneys.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: And they're like, or maybe even in their head, they're like, well,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: I guess I'm still lucky to have gotten the 800.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, like almost, I almost wonder if like in
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: doing this thing, if he was conscious of it to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: be like, if you're my.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: Client, he was conscious and entitled, you know, one of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: the things that he would say to clients and he
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: said it to Kathy Rago, and he would say it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: to other folks too. Like Josie Hernandez really had similar
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: communications with Tom, you know, I did a great job
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: for you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I did the most amazing job.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: And this is, I think, the worst part of it
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: all is he did do an amazing job on the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: legal side of it, getting this insane settlement.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: You know, what most people sort of miss in all.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Of this is that our court systems have, you know,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: not been working for the everyday person for decades.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: You know, the average person can't afford a bankruptcy, a divorce, anything.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, how are you bankrupt, but you can't afford
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: to pay a lawyer to do the bankruptcy?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: That's the typical person. If they need to get divorced,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: they can't afford that.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: And if they get injured, they get thrown into the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: personal injury. You know, I call it the Girardi-Catherine will now.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you're thrown into this thing of
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: contingency fee lawyers and who do you pick? And if
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: you have a good case, they're all coming after you.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: If you have a not so good case or something new,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: nobody wants it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: If the way he kind of got away with it
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: all these years and what I meant like he was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: consciously doing that is if he gave the client a
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: little lower expectation of what we might get. I'm just hypothetically.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: So like you come to me and you're like, I mean,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: this is awful that what happened to me in this accident.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: And he's like, Kimberly.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: I really think we can get you $ 1.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: 5 million.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: And to you, you're like, wow, that sounds really great.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: They never promise anything, really. Lawyers really don't promise amounts.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: If anything, but you're in the right direction.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Wait, let me just finish.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: So then I'm thinking like, okay, if that's the case
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: or something... Or they somehow say, well, for this person,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: we got them 1.5. Let's say we have all those
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: on their website. We have a similar thing.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right. Exactly.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: Like you see those commercials. I got Larry H. Parker
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: got me whatever. So you're like, okay, for this kind
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: of crash and this kind of injury and because it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: was a big trucking company that hit me or whatever,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: you see that and you're thinking, well, hopefully I'll get 1.5.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: He does such a good job.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: He gets you 8 million.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: So now you know you have $ 8 million, but.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: Then he piecemeals it to you. And by the time
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: you've only collected three of the eight, he's keeping the five.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: And then for all those same reasons, now you've spent it.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: But in your mind, you've got way more than you're...
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: No, you're exactly right.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: That's why I'm saying that maybe some people didn't totally
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: go after him.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: No, it's 100%. Because they were still, like, pleasantly pleased.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: That's why I feel like he doled it out to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: people to see... how much he could keep. He would
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: test it. How much are they going to push back?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: What are they going to do? Who are these people? Right.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: And the other thing that I've thought about a lot too,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: along these same lines, it's like, you know, he was
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: often known for helping, you know, not somebody that had
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of means or maybe they really just had
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: no idea what to do.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: They didn't know where to.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Get education or connections or any kind of connection. So
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: he was known for taking those kinds of cases. Almost
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: sounds like a predator, doesn't it?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: So he picked people that he knew were the little guy,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: the real David and Goliath. The David who could never
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: go against him if that were to ever happen.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: And that's why I always say, you know, he really.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: blew it when he thought that kathy regomez was one
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: of those people because she's not.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: In simple terms she got the ball rolling like in
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: very simple terms and didn't let it ever.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Stop every time they tried to stop it she kept
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: pushing and kept pushing and kept pushing and i think
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: she'll continue to push not just for herself you know
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: but for the overall um you know justice for everybody
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: for The system to be better. Because, you know, that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: really what all this is alluding to. Like, who let
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: Tom do this? You know, what entities? What organizations? What partners?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: What politicians? What politicians?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: What governors? If you look at the.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: Bernie Madoff thing, the politicians had to pay that money back.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: The banks that were, you know, in bed with Madoff,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: they had to pay money back to victims. So Bernie
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: Madoff's bankruptcy was in 2009. So if you look at
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: what's going on now, 85 percent of those, you know,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: millions of dollars that were stolen from victims have been
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: returned to them.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Where did they find it?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: They went after they took back the politician donations. They
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: went to the banks. I mean, they went they have
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: left no stone unturned. And so, you know, I say
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: to people, if we look at the Bernie Madoff bankruptcy
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: and what happened in that, we can really see the future.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: of Erica and Tom Girardi's mess because it's very similar.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, this was a true Ponzi scheme involving investments.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Tom's was very quite similar.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: You were promising people things and taking more than your
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: share and making up a fantasy about part of it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: and got away with it until you were in your
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: older years. And then it all implodes. I mean, you
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: got to wonder like, He made it through his entire
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: lifetime being able to do pretty much whatever he wanted.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, being the toast of the town, marrying young women
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: and cheating on even her.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: He could be fun.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, if he was your friend and liked you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: and wanted to do nice things for you and wasn't
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: doing something harmful to you, you know, you were thinking
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: he was charming and connected and fun and, you know, yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: And I mean, I know people that were very good
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: like family friends in which he did help certain children
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: in their family with, you know, getting into law school
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: or offering to and things like that and helping out
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: of jams and in another state and that type of stuff,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: because he was so well connected. Let's just talk a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: little bit about the episode, um, that aired last the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: other night and the attack on Sutton. So Sutton, um,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: It goes to say, you know, you call me a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: liability as a friend.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: Who's the liability?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: You're the liability in the friend circle with all the lawsuits.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: And so then Sutton says, I got a letter from
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: a lawyer, and now I have to hire a lawyer,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: which is smart.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: She should.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: And then Erica said, that's because of what you said
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: in the reunion.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: You said you heard a rumor. What did you say?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: Are you talking about the rumor from the old show
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: where they were saying the partner left the firm because of.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Correct, yes.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: Well, that's true, though.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's true. It's not a rumor. The partner
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: left the.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Not only did a partner leave, a ton of people left.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: If you ask victims, like one of the victims that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: left probably like a year before everything imploded was because
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: they had had like eight lawyers or whatever because every
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: lawyer assigned to their case kept leaving.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: You know, it went from like 50, 60 lawyers down
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: to only... you know, so many people left there.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: So, you know, to act like it was ridiculous, it's
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: 100% true. So what do you think the attorney is
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: hoping to get out of Sutton?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: And why do you think they did only reach out
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: to Sutton and not the other girls?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, my opinion about that letter, I mean, what
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: would Sutton have to offer right now at this point?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: Why did he, you know, maybe he thought she was
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: the one who would cooperate the most, but I would
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: assume it's Edelson from Chicago.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: And I mean.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: You know, to me it was a PR thing to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: get on the show. I mean, he probably hoped they
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: were going to say his law firm's name. I mean,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: how cool would that, it's.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: Like a free commercial. Like you're talking about lawyers, like
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: they're on billboards.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're commercials.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Sweet James. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a sweet James kind
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: of deal. Exactly.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: You know, so I, and, and here's the thing, and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: maybe he would get a witness that would give him
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: some info.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: Like, was he digging for some, I mean, yeah.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: Um, Is it Sutton's responsibility or fault or, oh, she
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: should have been quiet?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: No. Sutton is 100% correct. Erica's the liability.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: Not only is she the liability, which she called Sutton,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: but she's also the liar, which she called Garcelle.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: So she's just projecting. Everyone, you know, psychology 101. We
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: can all see it. Like, if you call someone else that,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: it makes it harder when you're called that because it
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: looks like someone's retaliating or saying, you.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Know, you're a liar too, Erica.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: So she's playing offense.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: I thought it was a pretty disturbing episode how vicious
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: Lisa Rinna has gotten towards Sutton.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Like, she freaking hates Sutton and Garcelle. Hates them. And
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Is it over the Elton John thing? Like, I'm still
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: confused about, like, why they're still.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love Elton John so much. He's the best, but...
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: And so I could see why you could obsessively think
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: about him all the time. I was watching it again.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I'm confused.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: I was watching it again last night. Isn't it from
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: last season? There was one point where she goes... And
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: first of all, I don't understand why Garcelle is getting
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: the venom from Lisa Renna. She didn't say anything about
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: the Elton John movie because she... told Sutton to bring
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: it up I'm like I don't know because at one
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: point she screams at the toothless not homeless or the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 6: homeless not toothless a bit she's like and she's like
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: I'll say what the fuck I want and she's screaming
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: and the two charity girls are like you see.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: The two faces of the charity girls yeah the two
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: girls are like I love them yeah by the way
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: I thought they were they're like queens like little memes
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: they should have put crowns on them because they're like.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: Looking like, what the fuck is happening? And they're not
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: saying anything, though. They're so polite. They're sitting there. I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: think one of them even kept her mouth closed, which
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know how. I would have been like.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Basically, what I've read from today, because we're recording this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: the day after it aired on Thursday, is... People are
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: thinking that Kyle and Rinna are way too much producing
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: the show and trying to be the stars. And that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: Rinna is just being a horrible person and blaming.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: It on Lois' death.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: For some reason, they do believe Erica, though. I mean,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason, whatever the case may be. And I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: heard some Bravo bloggers say, like, you know, we have
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: to do this. We have to be impartial. And wait
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: until we see more information and we see.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: Like criminal charges or whatever.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: OK, but there is moral issues and there are criminal issues.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: And perhaps, you know, both matter. Yeah.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: So we don't need for someone to go to jail
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: to say like this is obnoxious, ridiculous behavior. I mean,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: the premise of the show and you guys, you know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: obviously I'm not an expert on Hell's Wives.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Is they're supposed to be friends, right?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: Right. So me and Kathy are watching it together. We're like,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: next month we'll be friends 50 years.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. We're like, friends don't act like that. You wouldn't
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: do that to your friend. That's how friends are.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Even the so-called fierce five or whatever.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fat. Well, it's. What is it? It's Doreen.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the force five. Oh, is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: it four? Five or four. Maybe I'm just adding it.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: It's Kyle, Rinna, Erica, Doreen. I think it's just the four. Oh. Well,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: maybe they had a fifth last season?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then the other side is going to be
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: Kathy and Garcelle Sutton and, yeah.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Crystal. Crystal, yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: And so with, you know, and it was interesting because
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: I noticed in the episode they were kind of like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: hinting of sort of setting up with finally we're going
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: to see or hear about with what happens in Aspen where.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: supposedly Kathy.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: Said something because all of a sudden she comes over
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: to Garcelle and this conversation, maybe it was a weird edit,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: appears to have come out of nowhere.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: It wasn't a good edit. Cause she's like, you know,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: I was with, uh, you know, Rick, her husband, and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: you know, he's just been married.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: We've been married for so long. Cause he was a
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: good Catholic boy and he went to Catholic school.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: And then she's like, and he just said, you know,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: I could say the wrong thing or something and be
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: canceled forever. And I was like, That's a weird foreshadowing
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: that they just did because the rumor is that she
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: uses derogatory terms that were not caught on camera, but
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 6: the Fab Five or whatever, the fourth five will back it.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: But meanwhile, they're harassing Garcelle for mentioning Erica's drinking with
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: her medications out of control.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: But they're ganging up on Crystal for having an eating disorder.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: Even when she was apologizing and she was like, I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: didn't like what just happened here, Sutton.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't like it.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: I took it out on you and Sutton was being
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: nice and was like, it's fine.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: You can take it out on me. And then she's like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: it's not about you, Sutton. I was like, oh my God.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: You're just like, you like literally Sutton could not win.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Like they're just, I don't.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: But isn't Sutton like single and very strong and has money.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: And is, seems very state, you know, stable.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: And she seems also to be, um, You know, really
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: looking into, you know, the legal aspects of things and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: her interest in the law has sort of made her
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: stern sometimes when they probably would prefer her to be
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: more fun or silly or let them just skate over stuff.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: And she's been kind of like, no, no, no. Her
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: and Garcelle do that. And I think that's why they get,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: So much pushback. And the love from the audience.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: They're not real, real, like, longtime friends. I mean, some
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: of them that come on these shows have had some
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: kind of past long connection. So you see a little
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: bit more real chemistry on camera.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: Now, what was the lawsuit that was where Erica was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: served coming out of LAX?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: After coming back from Hawaii with Lisa.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: That was Edelson's lawsuit from Chicago. Well, he's now filed
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: it here. So he filed the Rico case here in California.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: And so they had to serve her for the new filing.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: And if you were to guess, you think it's that
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: case in which they are calling. It was confirmed that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: they're calling in Sutton to be a third party witness.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would say so because of the fact
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: that they showed the headline from Chicago when they were
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: talking about it.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: But we could be assuming from that. I don't know
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: who else it could be.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: But, you know, like we said, it could have been
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: it's either Edelson or Ronald Richards. I mean, it's not
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: really going to be anyone else. You know, most people
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: like in the Gomez case, they did. subpoena Erica to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: do part of the debtor's exam. Same thing, you know,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: as Tom, because of the finances, it's a community property state,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: but they didn't sue Erica. They weren't chasing any headlines
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: or anything. They just wanted to stop Tom. So when
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: you see people go after Erica and, you know, we
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: expect the IRS to do that. But I often, when
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: I see people include her wonder, you know, will she
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: have assets to pay anything back for one, but it's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: already a community property state.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: State, you know, do they add her in just for headlines?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: Right. And then she says, um, she does talk about
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: her love life. So she talks about, she's gonna, you know,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: be a dominatrix and maybe start like a dominatrix business.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: Hey, the world needs a lot more 50 plus dominatrix.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: And, um, And then there was a question, oh, was
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: she with Armie Hammer because he was her neighbor? And
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: then who are all these people she's getting?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: And then she did say.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: She was with a guy older, but not as old
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: as Tom.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: And everybody thinks it's this Vegas guy.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if it's somebody in Vegas.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, her ex and her ex-mother-in-law live there. There's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: a lot of ties to Vegas and gambling and All
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: of that from Tom anyway. So it wouldn't shock me.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't shock me.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: I saw on Instagram she was like following and he
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: was following her back. Some guy overseas that had, you know,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: tons of money and pictures with like tigers and crazy
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: palaces and stuff.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, she might be on the prowl. Yeah. Well,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: you got to do what you got to do. Hey,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: you got to find a new... you know, sugar baby job.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, if that's your gig and it's worked for
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: you in the past, I mean, she's not going to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: be able to live on what she makes from the
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: show minus taxes.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: She's not used to that. Right. I mean, she's trying
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: not to really. Where are the earrings now?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: The earrings finally, what happened with the diamond earrings finally?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: So, well, they've been in a safety deposit box for
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: a hot minute and they're still kind of really contesting.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think she's appealed it now.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: So it was said that they have to give the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: earrings back, that they proved that they were paid for,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: like the check to the jeweler. Okay, you guys, this
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: is not alleged. Let's follow me on this.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: The check to the jeweler came from the account where
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: victim's money is supposed to only be.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Got it. Literally, period.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: Those earrings were bought. with the blood of people who
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: died or had cancer or were in a car wreck
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: or some other horrific thing, lost a family member. It
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: was literally bought out of the fund from the victim settlements.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: It's serious. And I mean, I just say, and right
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: now diamonds are went up in value.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: Like they were inflating a lot. So they really need
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: to get those diamonds taken. out and cashed and get
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: some money back before it drops or something. Cause right
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: now they're like at an all time high.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: So the other.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: Thing though, I mean, the sad part is though, still
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: it now is going to be, you know, crunched through
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: a bankruptcy, which, you know, there hasn't been much money
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: paid to victims. 18 months later, it's mostly been paid
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: to lawyers all fighting over the money.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: Now this, I came across this woman on Twitter, Susan Bassey.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: And she is, So I sent her TikTok to you
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: and you went through it.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: I watched all of her TikToks. I went down the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: rabbit hole. Why don't you explain a little bit?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not like a true Bravo-like person. Like anytime someone starts,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: then I like go the next, the next.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can't help it.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: But this is a very interesting thing about the California
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: lawyers and judges who are private judges.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Can you explain?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: So her TikTok, what she's really like digging into is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: how There's a company called Jams, which it's the largest
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: of its kind in the country.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: And it's really global.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: And they do mostly, you know, mediations and arbitrations. So
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: a lot of the people that work there are attorneys
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: and former judges. Technically, though, like in California, anybody really
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: can be a mediator.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: You take this like $ 500 class. and you're a mediator.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: You don't need a college degree.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: They say you're supposed to have familiarity with the law
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: or whatever, which I don't know how you would get
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: picked as a mediator if you don't have a law
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: degree or you don't have some kind of specialty background
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: or whatever.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know how the two lawyers would go, hey,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: let's pick this mediator that knows nothing. That'll be great
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: for us.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: But there's really not a lot of regulation or oversight
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: or any of that. And so you have Kate, there's
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: kind of two parts to jams. So like the Ragomez
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: family used jams for their mediation. So Justice Pinelli that
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: people heard about in the Hulu doc was the person
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: from jams. And he's a retired judge, bigwig judge. So
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: his name was often used by Tom to keep the
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: Ragomezes in line. So his stature you know he's a
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  Speaker 5: retired judge he's so well respected he's even more important
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  Speaker 5: than Tom you know if Judge Pinelli's saying it like
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: oh okay you know we should listen up so they
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: have this incredible amount of power in these cases and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of things are just sort of off off
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  Speaker 5: the radar so to speak and in some of Tom's
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  Speaker 5: cases some of them allowed him to do things with
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: money that the judge literally ordered them not to do
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  Speaker 5: and then they let him do it anyway So it's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: just sort of a very loosely knit organization that is
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: infiltrated into our legal system. So family law is another area.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: She goes into the family law stuff a lot and
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: it's a good example to understand it because it's more
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: everyday people.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people have been through divorce. 50% or
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: more people get divorced.
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  Speaker 5: So let's say you have some assets and you know,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: you're fighting over custody of the kids and you're fighting
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: over your assets. They have jams, you know, deal with
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: your divorce sort of.
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  Speaker 4: Outside of the court.
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  Speaker 5: So you have like this private judge being your judge
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  Speaker 5: and they may, they decide and they'll drag it out
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  Speaker 5: and they can run up crazy costs. I mean, they
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: charge anywhere from, you know, a thousand dollars is not
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: unheard of and even higher. And some of them even
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: want cash.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy. Like How do you like, oh,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: I want a thousand an hour. It's it's bizarre. And
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  Speaker 4: this woman, Susan, I mean, I don't have the balls.
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  Speaker 5: She does to like take a, you know, camera and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: put it in a judge's face and an elevator and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, you make a lot of money doing this.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what do you do? You know, I mean, I
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: couldn't do that. She does another ones because I heard
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: TikTok is nuts. Go check out. I'm telling you, it's
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: a rabbit hole.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: I watched every single one. I mean, she's, she's a badass.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: She's like, like I said, it's not my person. I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: couldn't do what she does. Cause she's literally like, you know,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: pretend you're the judge. She's like, okay, so you make
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: a thousand bucks an.
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  Speaker 4: Hour from these people.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: You know, what do you have.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: To say about that? You know, she just puts them
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: literally on the spot and won't leave. They're like, you're crazy.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: One guy was like, you're nuts.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Get away from me. Get away. You're a public official.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: I have the right to ask you these questions.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: Have a right to ask for these documents you're being
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: a judge you're playing a judge in a family law
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: case and she's just hammering and she's telling them the
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: law when i saw that about that with the family
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: law i was like oh my god it's like family
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: law is so screwed up in california and to know
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: that this is like playing a role i just really
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: feel for people that ever have to go through it
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: in California, especially.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: And to know that, and it's all linked to the
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: Tom Girardi too.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, we can thank Bravo and the Bravo fans
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: for being so interested in what Eric is doing, that
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: it's actually uncovering some things that needed to be uncovered,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: So we'll just say like, yay for the Bravo fans.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: They're like super sleuths that, you know, they're really into this. And,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: In one hand, it's uncomfortable to hear people always talking
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: about something that's your real life online or even on TV.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: But on the bright side of it, I mean, maybe
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: we can finally get a court system where access to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: justice is actually.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: Possible for people.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's asking for too much that everyday folks could
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: get a divorce or file bankruptcy or get a good
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: lawyer if they get rear-ended in an Uber. But I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: don't think so. I, you know, I think it's doable
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: and I think it's cool that if they're going to
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: exploit this on TV, that something good comes out of it.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: And so, you know, good for Susan that she's getting
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: traction and I'm sure even more Bravo fans will go
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: see her stuff.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: She's bold. Yeah. Awesome. Well, I'm so glad you came.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: You always come and really explain it all well. And
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: it'd been a while since you've come. So tell everybody
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: where they can follow you or if they want to
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: ask you a question or write you.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: You can find me on Twitter at Kimberly Archie or
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: Instagram at Cheer Safety.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: And I don't have a bunch of websites. And so
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: there's just too many. That's the easiest way. Twitter ground
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: is easy. Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thanks for having me. Always.
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