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Ump show upstages Willson Contreras, Bichette returns to Toronto, Naylor v. Hedges spirited trash talk · Foul Territory

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Jason Kipness with us.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Welcome back boys, Thank you missed you guys, as always.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Missed you too.
• 0:11
  Speaker 3: How are you and some of your former teammates doing
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: in life? We were just chatting about a little trip
• 0:16
  Speaker 3: you were on and it include some other notable names.
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  Speaker 2: We just got back me Lonnie Chisenhol, Michael Brantley, my
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: brother and then uncle and a group of total of
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: twelve I think, but chisen brant were with me for
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: a Scotland golf trip, a Bugalest trip where played Saint
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  Speaker 2: Andrew's played Royal Door Knock, Trump Turnberry, Royal Troon. We
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  Speaker 2: hit up a bunch of the good ones. It was awesome.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: And Kratz was asking about Michael Brantley's swing, how is it?
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I said it was just as annoying as his
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: baseball swing because it's quiet, smooth, consistent, the exact opposite
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  Speaker 2: of my swing for baseball. And so he's he's a
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: but he's like a plus one. He's a Steve Golfer. Wow?
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Does he does? He? Does?
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  Speaker 1: He?
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  Speaker 4: Does he address the ball like he would when he'd
• 1:05
  Speaker 4: get in the box. Where he going? Did he go
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: the tongue. Like for me, when I would hit, it
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  Speaker 4: was like I would bite my tongue. They'd be like
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  Speaker 4: in my cheek.
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  Speaker 2: He was just like, it's just like he's like he's
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: falling asleep. Yeah, that's how how calm he is. Tell
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  Speaker 2: him to get a life. I do every day. Okay, good, good,
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  Speaker 2: he has a life.
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  Speaker 1: It's full of sweet swings and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's getting it's getting good at golf is what
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  Speaker 2: his life is.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: That is his life.
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: Hey, before we start, we did just learn minutes ago
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: the first home run derby participant Junior Camonaro is big.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, big, big WBC homers
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  Speaker 2: he had, so it'd be fun to watch him again.
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big winterball guy. He's young, he's twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about him a lot on yesterday's show on
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: Pace for mid forties homers and then the walk rate's
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: gone up a ton this year. So he just keeps
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  Speaker 3: getting better as he should. He's only a baby in
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  Speaker 3: our league, but he's a superstar already. So we'll see
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  Speaker 3: him in the derby. Awesome that he commits early to
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: starts to set the tone for other guys to join
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  Speaker 3: the party. In Philadelphia, and we'll be anxiously awaiting the
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: Kyle Schwarber, Bryce Harper.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was. Let me know when those two
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: are in, that's gonna be Muster TV three.
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  Speaker 4: There's gonna be three that half. There's three that have
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  Speaker 4: to go in. You already finished, You already picked two
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  Speaker 4: Schwarber Harper.
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  Speaker 1: Trout's not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's tragic. Why why wouldn't he do it?
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: It sounded like he already said he was out. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: Have you ever heard it? He's never been asked. He said, Well,
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: that can't be true.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that can't be true.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. That's it's not mine. I understand,
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: that's what he said. But look past that. That's BS okay. Yeah,
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: that would be an awesome Philly guy. That would be cool.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: That's a good call, though.
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: Shag during during the home run derby like the kids do,
• 3:11
  Speaker 4: so he could be like he can be like, hey,
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: oh shagging during the home run derby?
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  Speaker 3: Can picture like what one of his MVP year MVP
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  Speaker 3: of seasons like twenty, I don't know, like fifteen or something,
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  Speaker 3: and trash just like looking at his phone like I
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: hope comishion calls no way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, kid, no way, like maybe yeah,
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: no way.
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  Speaker 2: Well starter, but that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Slow start now, No, he's not even a slow starter.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing is going to convince me that the league
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  Speaker 3: does not want him in Derby's in the past, and
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: he has hinted that is going to be now.
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  Speaker 4: Okay until he comes on here and tells us otherwise.
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking a man for his word.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine, But he's not going to be there this year,
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  Speaker 3: not for sure, but most likely because of the hammy
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: that he's dealing with. I don't even know if he'll
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  Speaker 3: be back for the game. We'll see. Stay tuned on
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  Speaker 3: that front. And let's start with a segment we haven't
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  Speaker 3: hit in a minute, Ump show snee right, are you
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  Speaker 3: kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: How soft are we?
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  Speaker 3: The Red Sox broadcast booth after Wilson Contreras was ejected
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  Speaker 3: for tapping his helmet on his way back to the dugout.
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  Speaker 3: A lot to dissect here, Kip, because Contrera's post game
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  Speaker 3: that he was actually just talking to a fan in
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  Speaker 3: the stands about it. But my question is, even if
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  Speaker 3: he was talking to the ump about it, really we
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  Speaker 3: have abs now, So If you do that and say
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: you disagreed with a call that you can't review, who
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  Speaker 3: cares to me? That is a level of softness in
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  Speaker 3: our sport that goes too far. He didn't curse out
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: the ump he didn't throw something. You can't do the tap,
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: but the ump nin Glentz said the post game that
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  Speaker 3: it's like auto ejection.
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  Speaker 1: If you do that, still, Kratz, you.
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  Speaker 2: Want to take us first, or I mean mine's mine's
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  Speaker 2: very simple. Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: The rule says if you do it, and it was
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  Speaker 4: on a check swing. It was on a check swing.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't on a strike three. It was the first
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  Speaker 4: base umpire and he was obviously a triple A. They
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  Speaker 4: had the check swing challenge John. But if he if
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: you watch the video, I feel like he did it.
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  Speaker 4: And I know Nick Lentz had thrown Taylor Walls out
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  Speaker 4: last year for doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I just he did it. He did it.
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  Speaker 4: Whether he was talking to a fan over here and
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  Speaker 4: the umpire was over there, he did it. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: i'd have checked that one. Well, now you're go go
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  Speaker 4: check it on the on the screen in the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Soft.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little annoyed by both sides Okay, let's be yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's be uh. Let's let's take into account the context here,
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  Speaker 2: who it was, what they were doing. He wasn't talking,
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  Speaker 2: if he wasn't if he was talking to someone outside
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  Speaker 2: over the dug out. Let's be clear he knew what
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  Speaker 2: he was doing, so let's not act like he's completely innocent.
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  Speaker 2: And if it is AutoMac injection, is AutoMac ejection. But
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: if you're walking away, I have always had a problem
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  Speaker 2: with that. If it's something where you stand around home
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  Speaker 2: plate and are everyone is now looking at you and
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: the umpire discussing it, that's where it could be looked
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  Speaker 2: at as showing him up. If he's walking to the
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: dug out, people have already turned their attention to the
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  Speaker 2: next batter coming up or something like that. Umpire has
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: got to have thicker skin than that, So that is
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: that is a very soft thing. But neither size is
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: really innocent in this one. In my opinion, Kip, what
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: would you hear if you were in the dugout right there?
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: Tuck your ears in? Rabbit? Oh? Absolutely, the only way,
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  Speaker 2: the only way, Nick Lnz.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, There'll be plenty of people that like,
• 6:40
  Speaker 4: come on, bro, the only way Nick Lentz sees it
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  Speaker 4: is if he gives them one of these bye and
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  Speaker 4: then he goes.
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  Speaker 2: He's looking for it. He's staring him down, he's watching him.
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  Speaker 2: He's looking for it. But he's looking for it because
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: he gets Wilson concerns. Who has a knack for doing
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  Speaker 2: dumb stuff like that. Sometimes we're him self in trouble
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  Speaker 2: emotional Yeah yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So you're looking towards something like that. I know, but
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  Speaker 3: I have multiple problems here. First of all, I don't
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  Speaker 3: care if it's you know, quote something auto or not.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really impact. I mean, it does impact the game.
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  Speaker 3: It impacts the fan experience. The only consistent Boston hitter
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  Speaker 3: all year and he's booted from the game. It impacts
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  Speaker 3: the game. And he didn't do anything that was so egregious.
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  Speaker 3: So if that is a thing with the league office,
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  Speaker 3: let's get rid of that now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing if guys were going to
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  Speaker 3: do this left and right on a ball or strike
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  Speaker 3: right when we were getting ready for the ABS era,
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing. The sun a check swing. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: it's too soft. I completely agree. I would have said
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  Speaker 3: the same thing on the broadcast, just like they did
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  Speaker 3: the other day. Like Kip, don't you think they come on?
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  Speaker 3: Let's not act like this is the Bible. We can
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  Speaker 3: switch the quote rule if this is actually a rule
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  Speaker 3: in a book.
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  Speaker 2: Then but once you switch the rule, fun but the
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  Speaker 2: rule stands in place. I just it is. I don't
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  Speaker 2: trust me. It craspoes me. Well. I not want to
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: defend umpires that often at all. I'm more likely than
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: not being the one who's that arms with them. But
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  Speaker 2: it's I get it. I would be the one who
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: would push the envelope too, and try to push as
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  Speaker 2: far as I can until I get dropped, like till
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: right before he would toss me and never get tossed.
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  Speaker 2: And I knew what would get me toss And Wilson
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  Speaker 2: knows better too. He knew he crossed the line a
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: little bit there. But again it's that proverbial liner that
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: if it's in the writing, if it's not, it's just
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  Speaker 2: weak on the umpire's side too. The games they really do,
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: they really do make. There are some of them who
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: have just eat bigger egos than players, and it's not
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• 9:41
  Speaker 4: And that's what makes players say, yeah, I really like
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: that umpire or he's just really tough to deal with,
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: like moments like this. And I'm not sure if Nick
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  Speaker 4: Lentz is like that. I remember him when he was
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: in the minor leagues and I don't remember him like
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: having a quick fuse or letter of the law type
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: of thing. But he's done it before. Whether he should
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: or shouldn't do it, it's just the same as hey,
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: we're going to check the replay. If the manager comes
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: out to discuss or argue what the what the replay
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: result was, it's immediate injection. It's not even like I'll
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: let you talk for a little bit. It's just like, nope, sorry,
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: like we don't talk about that. And I think there's
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: I think it's okay that there's lines because he's walking
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: back to the dugout and he goes he goes like this,
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: That entire section over top of the dugout is now
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: all over that umpire. They're getting a laugh from, you know,
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: from what Contreras did, so I see what they're saying.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: I also see that. Nick Lentz could have easily just
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: been like, Okay, I'm gonna watch you guys throw the
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: ball around.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't hurting anyone. And hey, if you really
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: want to have a feel for everything going on, and
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: knowing that Wilson Contreras always gets involved with things, you
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: could also have a feel that his country went through
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: a crazy tragedy and he's been talking about it a
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: lot with Venezuela and you know, guys have been, you know,
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: in tears the last few days with the with the
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: natural disaster and all that there. So to me, it's
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: it's too much like for me. If you're a league
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: that actually has a feel, you look at this and
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: you're like, all right, now we're gonna tell the umps,
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: Like we don't have to be looking for the player
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: to see if he taps his head. We are still
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: playing like a sport with some toughness. Can we not
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: be this soft? It's one thing if the guy spits
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: in your face or curses, like, I get all that right,
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Like this isn't even setting a bad example for a kid.
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  Speaker 3: He's on his way back and goes like this pathetic.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: That's my thing is like take away all of the
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: nuances and if it's a real thing, and like in
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: the rule book, I don't care. I'm just saying, take
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: a step back now for the league going forward, send
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: out a memo and be like that's too far with
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: Nick did here is say, oh, I'm gonna look at
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: this player and try to get him booted from the game.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: And also like not even I don't know a warning.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: I don't even think that's necessary. But I'm just saying, like,
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: you're now taking away their best player from the game
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: for that.
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: That's the part that bothers me. Let's hear from Wilson Contraras.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a quick trigger. Yeah it's quick.
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  Speaker 1: It's too quick.
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  Speaker 2: There was no confrontation. He didn't even know he was
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  Speaker 2: thrown out.
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  Speaker 4: And I would also say, Scott, I don't care if
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: it's the best player or the worst player.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like the impact you're taking a
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  Speaker 3: player out of a game for this pathetic to me.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Pathetic, Like what what's the line that's all to me?
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: This is the line that I think we crossed in
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: terms of being too soft as a sport.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Wilson Contraras, was that directed at him?
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Was that?
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  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't directed on him. It was just like
• 12:37
  Speaker 6: I was. I was looking at defense and instead like
• 12:40
  Speaker 6: a Dominican fan was slugging to me, ding that while
• 12:44
  Speaker 6: I was talking my helmet, so I was looking at him.
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: It was he keeps telling me you're good.
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  Speaker 2: Your eye just like breathe.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, I was like, I was like there.
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: And then when I when I got to the dugout
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  Speaker 6: that I saw shot going out going out and then
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: I turned around. Then myers told me like, you got
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: try and I was like, well what And then I
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: went out there to explain to him, like to ask
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: him why he threw me out, and he told me, like,
• 13:09
  Speaker 6: because you thought you were help me. Yeah, but I
• 13:11
  Speaker 6: didn't make eye contact with you. I didn't argue, I
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: didn't jail, didn't do nothing wrong. And he told me, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I have to throw you all. He liked, didn't have to?
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: Would you made that choice?
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  Speaker 1: I actually thought he nailed that one. Yeah. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: go right up to him and do this in his
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  Speaker 1: face either.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Well he didn't. He wasn't confrontational by it. But I
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if he was talking just to the fan
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  Speaker 2: over there. He knows he where he he knows he
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: was in sight. It's it's he's it's I don't know.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Seems to be him a lot, that's all I guess.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: So I guess he lives. He loses the benefit of
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the doubt in my mind. That being said, he's not wrong. Uh.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: I thought the umpire was looking for it and had
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: it out for him and was wrong too. Like I said,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I was, both sides kind of annoyed me in this one, right.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm saying if if if you feel like both
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: sides annoyed you, then I'm always going to side with
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: the player because I don't care about it. I don't
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: pay money for the ump I pay money to watch
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Wilson Contreras.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: You know, have you ever had the umps change their
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: entire personality behind home plate compared to when they were
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: in the field.
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  Speaker 4: Not as much had them change when it was a
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: I had the same umpire on a Wednesday Thursday getaway
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: day in Oakland. The next Sunday. The very next Sunday,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: we had the ESPN game in Chicago, same umpire, two
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: different dudes.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: They're human too, Yeah, I understand that, But there's these
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: guys when like they'll be as they'll be sweethearts in
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: the field when they come around third base, second base
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: and you talk to them and they're just in great
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: moods and all that stuff. When they get behind home
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: plate though they are they got their guard up. They
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: got a short trigger.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I know this guy was at first base for this one.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: But like they they they have bad days too. They
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: are human too, but they there's something that switches on
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: them when they're behind home plates that they have quicker
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  Speaker 2: triggers always.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have an interaction. I didn't have a lot
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: of yield interaction. Like you're out there yucking it up,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: like pretending the box with with with uh Anderson. You
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: know you're doing all the good stuff, practicing your swing
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: between pitches. I'm back there grinding sweat and wonder if
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: they're gonna take me out of the game.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: All that stuffy ah they are.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: We have levers in place to fix most of their
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: mistakes now, but we can't fix the ejection. What we
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: can do is just make sure going forward that we
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: have a soft meter and that one was too soft,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: just like the broadcast set.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: That's all that. That's my mean Okay, good settled.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: I guess you guys are right. I mean I worked
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: for m LBE. They had too many rules. I left,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't like rules.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Uh what about rules for Aaron Nolan in terms of
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: tweaking what he's doing? Krats, I know there's been suggestions,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: but nothing's working yet. It is he Do you see
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: him actively trying to do different things since it's been
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: about a year where the era is close to six.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Ish a little bit I played with him, and a
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: little bit that I was on the radio for the Phillies.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: He's always tweaking something. He's always trying to tinker with stuff.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: He doesn't like the way his curveball looks, he doesn't
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: like his leg kick timing. And I'm like, bro, I
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: could go back and watch like your freshman year when
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: you pitched in the in the regionals for LSU, you
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: look exactly the same, and he's like.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I don't even look the same for my last start.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: He's always trying to tweak it, and he's at that
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: point in his career where he's giving up a lot
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: of damage, so he has to figure out how to
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: get soft contact in other ways than what he used
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: how he used to do it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, five A two era. He was booed off the field.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: He had a five to nothing lead. Phillies lost that game.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Piot's got him back in the what Kratz calls kipt
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the poop series. People ask the P and the P
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: zero zero just in case, you know, just in case
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: you didn't know, and you don't watch the regional broadcast. Hey,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Addison Barger is going to be shut down for a
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks. M or I revealed a stress fracture
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: in his back, felt soreness while ramping up his hitting.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: That's the report from Hazel May yesterday. As the Blue
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Jays have been going through it with the World Series
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: hangover of injuries to pictures mostly but some position players.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, Barger was a huge, huge part of last
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: year's team.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Krats massive, massive, and I get a back fracture every
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: time I watch him swing. There's some dudes that like
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: swing really hard. He's one of them. So can he
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: if this is something, I mean, a stress fracture in
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: your back, like it feels like it sounds terrible, and
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you know, do you question We've talked about a little bit.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Do you question that do you question the fact that
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe he's gonna have to, you know, calm
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: his swing down a little bit.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Who knows.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: But if you look at his picture and he's from Washington,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: he looks like Travis Snyder. I want you to do
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: a side by side totally off topic, sorry Barger, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: he looks like Travis Snyder. Just check it out and
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this? What's happening in Washington?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Hey, seakeeeks helping us with some game previews. We have
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to start with Scooble versus Schalitler. If you're in the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: New York area and you'd like to see two of
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the best starters in baseball, perhaps the two best in
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the American League, this is your opportunity.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And Schlittler's actually coming off.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: It might have been his worst start of the year, Krats,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: even though the defense was also letting him down.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: In that outing against Boston, they lost the game.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Zero earned runs. They lost the game. I get it,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: he didn't get out of it, but he was essentially
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: one hanging cutter away from Durban, not time or putting
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: him ahead, Like I get it, unearned runs as he
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: already went down and maybe he didn't have his best stuff,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: but man, he is he is electric and he he
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: can change a game.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I'll be interesting to see, like does he like you
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: hear this?
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, he gets up for big games when another when
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: a really good pitcher, Like they're trying to show each
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: other up. It'll be interesting to see if like Cam
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Slitler has that or not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: And this is also right, this is also the back
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to back Sie Young Award winner going up against the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: front runner in the American League right now, Kratz, Right,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I mean Cam Slitler's at a one six to two
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: era on the season today.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're giving it out today.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: It is you had one tiny little blip and I'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: not even talking about the last one as a blip
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: like it is today.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Halfway through the Tigers, you know, they're in ultimate ultimate
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: win now mode, while the Yankees have dropped seven of nine.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: They'll be fine, but you know they're starting to.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Feel it a little bit with with Judge out, with
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Grisham out, with Standing out, with Freed out.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Right, they're missing dudes.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: They're missing impactful players and it hasn't really affected much
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: up until the last couple of weeks. You could also
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: just make a case that no matter what, every June,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the Yankees just like to give you a little adversity,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: get their fans a little pissed off.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: They do this every year, they have a June smoon.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It's just they make it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: They make it so that fans like, this offense is
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: never gonna work. They can't just hit home runs. So
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: they do that where they're just like, no, we're not
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: gonna We're not gonna hit right now, and then we'll
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: end up still having the best offense in the game,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: just like they did last year.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Other good matchups if you're trying to grab a ticket
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• 20:20
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  Speaker 3: in Matthew Boyd back with the Cubs rotation that is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: missing like everyone, so he's the last man standing there.
• 20:29
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• 20:49
  Speaker 1: A kip for me. We talked.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: We've talked ab us a couple times recently. So Barger's
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: another big bat speed guy, had a big breakout last
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: year as those numbers continue to go up. So we
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: went over at Isaiah kind of Fileffers said he had
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: you got hurt from from trying to up his bat
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: speed like Polar set it on our show yesterday. You
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: might see some similarities here. Well, all of a sudden,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get these kind of injuries popping up the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: same way that pictures chase velocity.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It just sounds stupid to me. I'm sorry. It just
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: sounds you're always working out and training to get better
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: bat speed, or to get stronger, or to get more
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: more flexible as you get older instead of stronger. Once
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you get like to a certain age, it's more about
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: elasticity instead of strength and stuff like that. But yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you're always lifting weights and doing abs and twists and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: trunk twists to get better space. At the end of
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the day, I don't care what the number says. If
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I feel good. And if I'm having success, why do
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I care what an analytical number says? If you've already
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: are doing something, well, what where? What where do you?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Where's the gain in trying to chase that? I get it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: For pictures velocity, there are gain is and you're gonna
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: have more success. You're gonna be more margin for air
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But like the batsweet is only
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: going to go up two miles an hour.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Ten feet ten feet of distance. Ten that's what you're chasing,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the ten extra feet.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you get it enough that ten feet is.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Not going to matter, I know, as success. And then
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: last year he broke out right like for his purposes.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he broke out. He doesn't make
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: sometimes he has strikeout issues, and they were like, if
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: you're going to make contact and.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Make contact, dude, wasn't any wall scrapers? Right?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller blew a save, which is very rare.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: The Cubs have been these walk off ladening monsters, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: they're also a super streaky team. But here's actually what
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I want to get to is a theme. Saya Suzuki
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in the past week has hit a home runoff miz
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and No one else had done that in a minute.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And then also he goes, you know, walk off off
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: the wall against Mason Miller, like the dude knows how
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: to hit against certain pitchers that no one else can
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: hit against.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It's no, he's a valuable asset. He's a good right
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: handed bat. When you talked about him, That's why Ryan
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: was just talking about the Mariners possibly being interested in him.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Cubs would let him go regardless
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: midway through when they're still competing right now too. But
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: it's kind of been the whole lineup a little bit.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: There's just they're inconsistent. It tells by them already having
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: a ten game losing streak, ten game winning streak, a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: second ten game winning streak, like it's very What they
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: do do well is they keep pushing it and they
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: keep getting on base. So I think their problem has
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: always been this year is hitting with runners in scoring position.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna read Jesse's tweet right there, ten walk up.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they have this late any magic so Boll
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Chicago teams right now actually do. I think White Sox
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: are like twenty three and five in their last twenty
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: eight at home with like ten walk offs and the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Cubs have ten walk offs. There's something ridiculous that both
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: teams are winning a bunch of late games. But it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: fun to watch. I think the Cubs lineup just kind
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: of is so much better when Suzuki's going though, because
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it evens it out, because they have Bush, they have Pca,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they got lefties. They just need that kind of complimentary
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: right bat, right handed power bat. And I think when
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: he's going, well, it really does change the entire lineup.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Streaky team, right, I guess they both have their streakiness
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: to acrats. I mean one team is just overall streaky
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: and then the other one is yet much better the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: White Sox at home than they've been on the road.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah more just more just home road splits than streaky
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: for the White Sox.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, that'd be a massive move. They move
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Seya out of that lineup, which they have extra. You know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: they have thump in that lineup to get pitching because
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: they need pitching.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: They Valencias there's closure and he has like four saves
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: on the ear right. They're not really they play a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: lot like they don't. I don't know, they don't. They
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: don't they don't play enough to need that clos.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: In the Weeds great article by Mitch Mannon in The
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Athletic on players returning to where it all began or
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a team that they spent a lot of time with.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Mitch also part of our Bluebird Territory show and podcast
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: covering the Toronto Blue Jays. This came up because Bobachet
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: just went back to Toronto for the Bo Bowl against
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the Blue Jays now as a member of the Mets,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and he was pretty emotional. And Bo's a pretty reserved guy, right,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: He kind of keeps it low key, but he was
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: getting emotional when he was chatting. So this story guys
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: dives into some other players and what the returns are, like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: how busy and hectic it gets. It went over some fuel,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: like Kevin Gossman was a little pissed that the Orioles
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: didn't do any kind of welcome back tribute or anything
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: to him when he went back for the first time
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to Baltimore. Chris Bassett, who returned to Toronto in June
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: after three years with the Blue Jays, said he didn't
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: like any part of it, even though he understood it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: He just doesn't like having to watch himself on the screen.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: He doesn't like staring at former teammates that are like.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, welcome back, we missed.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: You, Like he wants to look at them and be like, Okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I want to take these guys down today. And then
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: also Bryce Harper was quoted in this story talking about
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: how fans really went after him right away. They were
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: playing the tribute video. I didn't remember this, but they
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: were booing during that like some guys get the ultimate respect.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And then Harper was saying how the mayor was calling
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: him Benedict Arnold. So add all of that up, Kip,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: what have you seen?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: There's just speaking from personal experience, there's no doubt you
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: go back and you want to kind of show them
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: what they're missing or something. It's not even if it
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: was a bad parting of ways or a good one.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I think just when you move on and your team
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't resign you or anything of that nature, anytime you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: come back there you're like you should have resigned it,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Like it's just that's just the competitor in every baseball player.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: They want that. I think it was bad that Baltimore
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: didn't give Goslin even like it doesn't take much for
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: media or or whoever to put up like it's just
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: thanks Kevin, like on the scoreboard for ten seconds. You
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: don't have to show a full video or anything like that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: But to not acknowledge that I think it was a
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: little wrong. It does make it hard for the guys
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: who have the longer ten years at places to go back.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I think you kind of bury that. I wouldn't call
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: it hatred, but you bury that kind of just frustration
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: with not being back there, and you worry about your
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: new team, and you start making your new friends and
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: your new teammates, and you get happy, and it's just
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: like it just hits you in the face again right
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: when you see everybody again, and you're like, that's what
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: everything kind of comes rushing back, and all the memories,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: and so it's nice just to get the it's all
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: about the first game. After that, it doesn't matter too much,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: but that first game with the hat tip is always fun,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of way you can say thank you
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: back to the fans for supporting you. But I always
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: looked at it a little bit like I wasn't mad
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: at the team, the teammates or anything like that, because
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I had no reason to be. But it's like you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: kind of a more looking up at the ownership boxes
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and management boxes more than the teammates of what your
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: frustration is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I always liked it when, you know, you go back
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: with the teammate and you'd see the you'd see the
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: highlight film or whatever, the celebrating them, and then when
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: they get their first hit, they start booing them, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: it's it's an out.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They cheer them, like, you know what. I like that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: That's a fan interaction thing and you can handle it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Like what why would they boo me every sing? I
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: gave them so many of my good years? No, like, like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: nobody gets a better better reception than Lorenzo Kaine. Lorenzo
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Caine would would sit in a dugout with the with
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the Brewers. He'd be like, wee said, Royal's got my
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: good years.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: He said, but.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: He said, Milwaukee they're celebrating me. Or he said, he said,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Milwaukee showed me some love. That's what they do. They
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: showed me love.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But man, the Royals got them good years.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: So it's you know, it's it's a very few people
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: leave because you know what, it's not a good fit
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: for me. I had a great run, and the team's like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you're right, we want the best for you wherever you go.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Usually it's like I kind of would like to stay there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: My teammates are still there. I don't want to get traded,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: but we sucked, so they traded me. Now I'm not
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: going to go back in free agency and that and
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: that's the tough part about it. That's what is so
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: cool about what Buckston's doing in Minnesota.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does. It really does. And how you
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: part ways too. If you were if you were traded
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: when you guys, when you were doing well and your
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: team wasn't doing well or something like that, Like you
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: have nothing to apologize for. The fans really have nothing
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: to boo you for. Like you'll see a lot more
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: positive interactions, a lot more applause, and like really rarely
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: any booze. But if you chose between going somewhere else
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: or staying and you went somewhere else, then you're gonna
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: hear more booze.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Right if you if you did a live broadcast called
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the Decision.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And you chose your spot, then yeah, that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Might that might hurt a little bit. But the thing is,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I mean we often don't know what goes on behind
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: the scenes. I'm just gonna use this might not be
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the cleanest example, but from Berbaldez, who's now faced his
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: former team a couple of times in the past few weeks.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: But the first time when the media was talking to
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: him and all that and they're asking him about Houston,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: he was like, no offer, no combo, no offer, right,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: like nothing so and he was part of world Series
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: winning teams and all that, and that's fine, that's their right.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: But to me, if I'm a fan of the Astros,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: whatever you think of him, you definitely can't fault him.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You should be appreciative of they didn't get You didn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: get an invite, No invite, right, Like, I'm sure they
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: would have done yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: And they didn't.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like, if you're a fan, you
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: need to realize sometimes a player can't go somewhere unless
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: the team wants him to come back. He needs to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: receive an offer to come back.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And I'll even extend it too. They shouldn't be buoying
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: him for that first start back or that first series back.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: You you celebrate them, cheer them, and enjoy the moments
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that you guys all shared together as a franchise and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: as fans. The second series, he comes back fair game,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: he's no longer on your team anymore, Like you're pubbim right,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: That's just how I feel, kind of like you're like,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that's then then you're fans of the former team and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: you're not fans of his team, his new team anymore.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: You're allowed to boo him no matter what.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: The stadium normally the people the loudest are the minority,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Like the minority people don't know what happened with Boba Schett,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: and so they're sitting there, they're gonna you know, they
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: would boo this guy, or maybe they didn't boo it
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: in the stadium as much as on social media, like
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: how could this guy leave?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: How could this guy?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Like wait a minute, during the time that bo was there,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: go look what he did. He was drafted by them.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: He wanted to stay with the Jays. They gave a
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: lot of money to Vladimir Guerrero. The organization made the choice.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: He didn't go chasing dollars. He went to free agency
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: like everybody else. And if the Blue Jays, and more
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: so Blue Jays fans, have some ire that they want
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: to shed to somebody.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It should be to the front office, It should be
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to ownership.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Whoever made the decision to say we're not going after Bo,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: We're gonna go after Vlad or if they made an offer, Hey,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: you know what, you know this was the offer that
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: was made and you know that's that's not on What
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: do you what do you want Bo to do? Fans
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: who say, oh, he went and chased the money, what
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: do you want Bo to do? What is the what
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: is the choice just to stay? Because he should stay
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: because you like him as a player.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should play for free, Kratz.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I mean that's to me.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna boo about it or write about it
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: or tweet about it and be like this guy, he
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: just chased his money. What's the other option? What should
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: he have done? Come back for a single year? I mean,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: what is he getting like forty million dollars in New York?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: How what?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Of course, like you gotta you gotta be in the
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: same category, the same realm.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You brought up Another good point though, too, do not
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: confuse Twitter fans with stadium fans. Yeah, yeah, because the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: loudest ones in the stadium mean the most to you.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: The loudest ones on Twitter mean the least to you.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think those are the ones who can They can
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: hijack the conversation and just completely turn it into something
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the wrong way, or paint the picture of a player
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: completely wrong light because maybe they had a personal event
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: at or they had a bad interaction with him, or
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: he didn't sign their card one time and something like that,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and now they dog him on Twitter. They steal the conversation.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Everyone that reads, maybe the team's forum or something like that, things, well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: this guy's a bad person, and he's like, No, go
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to the stadium where a guy plays his ass off
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: all the time and fans love him. It's completely different.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: So that's a very good point. Cratzy.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Often, actually, if you're trying to get the pulse, even
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: just from any kind of social media platforms, Twitter is
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: probably the worst in that category because it's ninety eight
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: percent negative.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I love getting news on there and reading stuff. But
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, even for me, right with our
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: whole network of shows on FT, I check Twitter comments
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: the least. I check YouTube comments the most.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think there's a.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Much more reason there on average, Right, you're gonna have
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: people on there that I feel like relate more to
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the fan experience of what you're talking about, Kip. You'll
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: get positive, you'll get negative, you get it between. A
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: lot of times, Twitter is just like who can make
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: the meanest comment and then get engagement off of that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't think that's the best place to
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: check them with you there if you're trying to see
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: how a player is being received.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Again, good article though, check it out. It's by Mitch Bannon.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Hey, the Astros did lose Jeremy Pana mild left Castra
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: and headed to the IL should be a minimum stint,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: according to Joe A Spota. Sorry, I'm not saying that based.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: On anything I know about doubt.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, how many freaking times does someone have
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: to downplay a calf injury and then the player misses
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: more time? It just it happens all the time. It's
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: the same skit over and over again. It's happened multiple
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: times this year, Kip. I remember learning about it from
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Josh Donaldson like ten twelve years ago, because you're like, oh,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: big tough, Josh Donaldson, he'll be back in five minutes,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: and then calf was having him nuts.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's always the same scat.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Pinya won't miss the minimum time,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: but the chances are he'll miss a little bit more
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: than that, or he'll come back too soon and then
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: the calf will bark again.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mentioned em earlier that I went on the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: golf trip. Lonnie Chisenall used to have a lot of
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: calf problems. I had one before. Calves obliques probably could
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: throw hamstrings in there too at something of those don't
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: just heal up and go away. It's like not only
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: do like they need time to rest, They need time
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to restrengthen they need time for you to have confidence
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: in again, and then they still might not be ready
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: to play on because it's still like it just they
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: become more susceptible to being pulled or strained again just
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: by where they're located, just by the tens that are
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: in them. So there's very specific. But calfs are not
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: fun at all. And I've done it before and there
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: is no mild stint on there for calf strain that
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: those don't go together.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: That's why I saw that Kratz and I was like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: we have to mention this biggus. Jeremy pin is one
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: of their best players, and you can't expect to mabe
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: back in five minutes.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Or leg injuries that heal quickly when you're on the Astros.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, they've been a minute about leg injuries that
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: take Forever Tucker two years ago.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: You'red on last year. I get it they were foul balls, but.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, things can appear NBD and then be much more serious.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: All right, So Dave Roberts talking about how Tyler last
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: now has resumed a throwing progression and that they're still
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: being very cautious right now to avoid any more stepbacks.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: So this was late on what's today Tuesday, so late
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: on Monday with the update there. And by the way,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers beat up the A's with an O tiny laser.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: He's got a nice little home run binge going on
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: right now that is going under the radar outside of LA.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I think eight homers in his last nineteen games. It's
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: good for like almost a homer every other game right now.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: He's pretty good at ball. But Kip Glass now Snell
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: number one starters, and it can be frustrating for Dodger fans.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: But if they get to the playoffs with a bye,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: preferably for their cause, and then those guys are pitching
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeah, exactly like they Yeah, I mean
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: those two might log like forty to fifty innings for
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the entire season, but then enter October with their same
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: stuff and then just be freaking firing and they can
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You will not hear me feel bad for Dodgers
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: fans at any point in time of any of these broadcasts.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: But that's I mean, that's that's the margin for air
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: that they have with this lineup, with this team that
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: they put together, is that they can stay in first
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: place for so long. They could out hit people, they
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: could beat in so many different ways that they don't
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: even need these guys to be there, and then they
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: just need them to rest up, get healthy, and be
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: mid season form by the time for playoffs. So you're
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: at your peak going into the postseason.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: It's just it's weird how even like them getting injured
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: works out in their favor almost, so it's is kind
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: of it's it's the Dodgers right now, man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Right, you're ramping them up for i mean second half
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: at some point.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: The fact, what's their lead in their division right now.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I had it up. I just closed that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: It's good. It's not like they've run away with it yet.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But they're they're but.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: They're they're well onto their way to winning the developed
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the the vision again.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Oh it's more than I even felt. Yeah, we never there.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: They're running away, kid. I was gonna say, like, it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: like six seven game, you know.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: It's it's such a luxury to be able to not
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: rush guys back through by injuries because they know that
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: these guys have been playing in the postseasons and have
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: been playing longer season seasons than everyone else, so their
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: bodies have taken a little bit more told But like
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that you can rest them, rest while they're
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: rehabing and get them to be ready for the postseason?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Is agata so unfair? Room? Yeah? Sorry Dodger's ban.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, this is exciting. John Lester remember him.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: He is a pretty big deal in Chicago and he
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: is going to be a regular guest on North Side
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Territory Our Cup show. So it will now be Sad Sharma,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mooney an occasional John Lester appearances. A first episode
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: with Lester is now available wherever you get your pods
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: along with the YouTube channel. So even if you're not
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: a Cubs fan, I mean, John Lester has impacted every
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: team in some way in baseball.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: So, Kip, do you know him? Have you come across
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: him at all?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: We played together in twenty twenty. He was He's awesome.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm actually looking down for my office at my wine wall.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Just told him I was remodeling my place and he
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: had some great wines and I think a whole seller
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: back at his home in Georgia maybe and didn't ask
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: for any just but a box of twelve high end
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: wines showed up in my house saying congrats on the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: wine wall, or just like just congrats on the wine wall,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: or just here. They hope these to get you started.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And so I actually still have one of the bottles
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: in there. I just have Captain having Touch, just out
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: of a because I really liked it and didn't want
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to waste it. But no, he was like that. He's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: such a good guy and a damn good picture. For
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: a long time.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: You know, had one bottle left. What happened to the
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: other eleven?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I mean it was six years ago.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was just after your renovations of
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: your your after you had the thing happened in the basement,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: because I was.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Like, that, wasn't that long ago that you got that fixed?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Oh the basement, not those renovations. Yeah, my basement flooded, correct, No,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: six years ago, gotcha. Also, I probably had eleven bottles
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: since those renovations downstairs.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: But that's fine.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: That's also fair, like six years Yeah, that's that's acceptable.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he has actually known, at least you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: in circles in the game, is one of the more
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: generous players too. I mean he made a ton of money,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: and I mean you guys have seen it. Some players
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: definitely like make sure that they take care of guys,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: the rookies, the dinners, the whole deal, right, And then
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: there's still some alligator arms for dudes who made way
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: too much money to be keeping their arms in their pockets.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And John Lester is the opposite of that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: You said it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Oh, I'm sure crats like you've been to
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: early early years of krats where it's like you just
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: cracked the bigs in your thirties and you're out of
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: dinner and some dude's been a.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Whole time, No, the whole time I'm always I'm always
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: waiting and don't let me. Especially at the end of
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: my career, I was always waiting for free, free meals.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I feel like backup catchers and Loogi's left handed, left
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: handed guys in the pen, they're always looking for free,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: free meals because they're the ones that are going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: get fired the next day. And if you're cheap and
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: you make one of those dudes pay for taxi or anything,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: oh boy, I'm getting on that. Mic, I'm gonna tell
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: everybody about it. You're a good hitter, got them short arms.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I guess that's how you can get to a lot
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: of heaters and not to your wallet.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm sure some guys sometimes maybe maybe crats. Making
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: fun of them for you know, every bus ride change
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: them made them more generous human beings.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: It's part of being Yeah, it's a good teammate, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: it's also part of like who took care of you?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You need to be able to take care of those guys,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: like understand.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you could say I earned my fifty million dollars.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we get that, we get that, but it's all
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: it's all kind of part of it, Like it's all
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: part of it, like if you're if you're out with
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: a minor leaguer, you can't.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, you want to split that taxi, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: now I'll walk. I'm fine.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: So we'll just do a mini verbal what's the beef.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I'll do the intro the beef. Josh Naylor and Austin Hedges,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: these guys going back and forth, two very vocal dudes
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: who actually kept seem very different.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: To say it again, they seem like very different personally,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think, I.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Mean, listen, I think it's one of those ones. We
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: talked about Naylor earlier with UH with Ryan Davish, and
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that will get on your
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: nerves if he's not on your team. I think he
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: he approaches the game he's not. He kind of makes
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you a little bit uncomfortable because he just doesn't have
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the same conversations with the same greetings every time you
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: come up to him or talk to them, and then
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: they on the contrary, Hedges is known to be a
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: goofster and like one of the more likable guys around
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: the league and just more fun to be around and
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: in a good mood all every day. That being said,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: it's that's that's that that seems more personal than just
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: generic smack talk to me crazy? Would you not say
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: that that? I think that's like that came out like
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that was so it was being held on to for
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit or something. So I don't know, yeah, yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's That's not just something you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: there's other ways to attack people or to verbally like
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: get into it with a former teammate than than going
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to like, hey, by the way, nobody likes you here,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: nobody likes him. Like that's that's trying. That's trying. That's
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: trying to shoot a dagger, but that also is having
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: that dagger.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: That is Yeah, I mean I don't feel like I
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: don't feel like hedge you would say that just because
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: he like like trying to make something up, so there
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: has to be something there. But it also kind of
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: felt like it was one of those things where you're like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: hey man, you're bald, hey man, you're.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Fat, hey man, everybody hates you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: And I was like, like, it's just.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Like totally like we're shooting barbs.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: It's like you know that that one dude gets a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: little drunk and then all of a sudden you're just like, yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: well I heard about your girlfriend.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, just like a line stepper that was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: So you have that as being like the line stepper,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: like the one kind of going a little too far or.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: I don't see that with I don't see that as
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: something Heggy would do.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So it has to come. It has to That's why
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I'm it seems like there's something there. Yeah, there's definitely
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: something there.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I'm intrigued to know about it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I'm curious as well, I kind of I'm going to
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: be doing radio for Cleveland down in Miami for a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: good series in early July, so I'm going to see
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: if I can talk to him. I want to ask
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: him about it, and I'll report back if I can.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, please, While we're on this stone Garrett, who is
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: a former Big leader, probably one of the best ops pluses.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: For a dude who barely played in the big leagues.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: His career ops pluses I think it was one thirty,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: one thirty, and he like he barely got a chance.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I know there's some injuries and some in effect whatever.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: He didn't have great minor league numbers, I guess at
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: times to get called back up.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: But in three hundred something at Beats.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Anyway, played a few years parts of a few years
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: in the big leagues, totally about one hundred games. He
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: commented on Instagram and said, Josh Naylor like to play
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: stupid games. Dude would come into our apartment we were
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: neighbors with aerosol and lighters multiple times. That wasn't his
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: first time in our apartment with a butcher's knife. The
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: guy hid in my closet waiting for me to get home.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: When I went to hang my shirt up, he jumped
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: out with a knife, pointed at me, caught my thumb,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: sliced it wide open, went to the er, waits for
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: me when I get back. First question is are you
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: going to press charges next day? Coaches team meetings saying
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: front office wants to keep it hush hush, and he said, lma,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I laughing my ass off. I get surgery. He cut
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: my nerve, still can't feel my right thumb. He got
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: suspended for one gamel. Two weeks later, he goes to
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the Future's Game, gets traded. He is the most psychotic
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: person I've ever met in my life.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Hey say, with your chest that's coming out, that's not
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: holding back. I like that, but like, hey, you know
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: what rubs me the wrong way on that everything that
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: he said, not well, jumping out at a teammate with
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: a knife is already strike one. But the first question
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: back is are you going to press charges? Not are
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you okay? Not anything like it's cause it's that's just
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: the brain works differently. I think heads about stuff, so
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and that could be the second question. I don't know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that's just weird stuff to me. That's saying not all
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: there at times, Yeah, and sometimes the only way to
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: work for people.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Though sometimes that works for people, you guys know, like
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and I think it's gotten a little more team, but
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of crazy kids that played baseball
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: that were very good. Like my quick story in the
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Ape League broadcasting and I lived with a number of
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: players and like I just remembered like i'd go home
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: from the game. I'd get back later than the players
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: and you know'd be like, all right, let's go out,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and they'd be like, let's go out, or we can
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: make homemade tasers and tase each other and I'm like, no,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: let's let's go out, Like this is weird, and then
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: they chose to Yes, they would do stuff like that
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: krats and this is like five guys that you know
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and one or two made the big leagues, and you're
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: just like, all right, these twenty year olds are freaking crazy.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I just want to like go.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: You know, we call those all those guys closers and
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: relief pictures and left.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Left there were some those mixed in. Yes, so there's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: story time for you.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That stuff is. That stuff is like lower level stuff.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much how many stories like that
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Kip has, but those stories like start the thin out
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: once you start getting upper, you know, towards like the
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: futures game time of life like that that Naylor was
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: getting in there the short season low way, there's nothing
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: else to do but make tasers.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: As a get higher, you start having more productive days off. Yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I never had. I never had.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I never had hair spray to light on fire, so
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: for shampoo before right.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Some get married at twenty and have a kid that
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: keeps them a little distracted. Others make tasers and have
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: aerosol fires going on.
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: So yeah, there's still Jason Goodness autographed in the car
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: bit of a dorm room at Kentucky and the k
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: One Towers went aerosol in so I used to be
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: a little bit of that guy, never stabbed anyone, never jeted.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Put that on the rest of the line somewhere