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- 0:02Speaker 1: It is victory Monday, November twenty fourth.
- 0:06Speaker 2: This is Jeguars Happy Hours.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home
- 0:13Speaker 1: Loans and now a guy who's recorded is one thousandth
- 0:19Speaker 1: tackle at the All you can Eat Buffet on Merrow Road.
- 0:23Speaker 2: JA P Chack and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy
- 0:28Speaker 2: Hour Monday. After another Jaguars victory and a busy two
- 0:32Speaker 2: hours ahead, here's what's coming up, presented by Deep Betty
- 0:35Speaker 2: Vodka handcrafted with real fruit, proud partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 0:39Speaker 2: The Jags over the Cardinals twenty seven to twenty four
- 0:43Speaker 2: in overtime. A resilient Jaguars team gets the victory. Jaguars
- 0:48Speaker 2: defensive effort, we'll get into that. Certainly. The Jaguars offense
- 0:53Speaker 2: had four giveaways in the game. We'll certainly get into that.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Keeping it real.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Of an hour.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Number two fan questions is always from social media, will
- 1:03Speaker 2: go around the NFL as well. JP Shadwick with former
- 1:07Speaker 2: Tags defensive in Austin Lane in studio, what's up, Austin?
- 1:10Speaker 3: How are you? What's up?
- 1:11Speaker 2: Man?
- 1:11Speaker 4: You know they always say, like you know, it's it's
- 1:13Speaker 4: about the journey. Not the destination. That game was about
- 1:16Speaker 4: the destination because the journey to get there was not great.
- 1:21Speaker 3: But you take her, you can get it, and you
- 1:23Speaker 3: definitely got a.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Dub CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco with us. Yeah,
- 1:28Speaker 2: that makes sense to me, Pete.
- 1:30Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, that was a weird one. In
- 1:34Speaker 5: the history of this franchise.
- 1:35Speaker 6: That was a weird one, and we've seen some weird games,
- 1:38Speaker 6: but that was so much good, so much bad. Kind
- 1:42Speaker 6: of where they are right now as a team, but
- 1:44Speaker 6: they also be the playoffs, and I think they're making
- 1:47Speaker 6: it by the way.
- 1:48Speaker 3: I think so.
- 1:49Speaker 2: They've won back to back games, three of the last
- 1:51Speaker 2: four out of the bye week. They're now the number
- 1:53Speaker 2: six seed because there's a three way tie in the
- 1:55Speaker 2: wild card there, so it goes to conference record. That's
- 1:57Speaker 2: why the Chargers are ahead of them in the standing
- 1:59Speaker 2: right now now.
- 2:00Speaker 3: So you think they're going, Pete, I do.
- 2:03Speaker 5: Think they're going.
- 2:03Speaker 6: I think the schedule's favorable, and I mean, look, Titans,
- 2:08Speaker 6: Colts at home, Jets bare minimum, you win two or
- 2:12Speaker 6: three of those. In my book, you should win three
- 2:15Speaker 6: of three. Based on the history against the Colts. They've
- 2:18Speaker 6: owned them at home and then after that you get
- 2:22Speaker 6: the Titans again later in the season. I mean, you
- 2:25Speaker 6: should get to ten or eleven wins and that should
- 2:27Speaker 6: get you in. I don't know if they're going to
- 2:30Speaker 6: be a sixth seed or the seven seed, but I
- 2:31Speaker 6: think that gets them in.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Wow awesome.
- 2:34Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at the schedule, you get
- 2:36Speaker 4: the Titans twice. Like, the Titans are not a good
- 2:39Speaker 4: football team this year. The Jets aren't a good football
- 2:41Speaker 4: team either. So to me, that's three right there. I
- 2:44Speaker 4: get the whole narrative of the Colts. You know, can't
- 2:46Speaker 4: win in Jacksonville. Well, last time I checked to the Houston,
- 2:49Speaker 4: Texans always win in Jacksonville, and that didn't happen this time, right, So,
- 2:53Speaker 4: like I understand, sometimes you let history be the indicator.
- 2:56Speaker 4: I think this is a different Colts team than we're
- 2:58Speaker 4: accustomed to, and I do think that Colts game at
- 3:01Speaker 4: home is gonna be a rough one. I mean I'm
- 3:03Speaker 4: not saying rough in terms of the Jaguars losing, but
- 3:05Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a very competitive ball game.
- 3:08Speaker 3: You too.
- 3:09Speaker 5: I Mean I'm not gonna say they're gonn run away
- 3:10Speaker 5: with it, but I could see them winning one. Winning
- 3:12Speaker 5: that game too. When was the last time the Colts
- 3:14Speaker 5: won in Jacksonville. It's been a while.
- 3:17Speaker 3: I think Clinton was in office.
- 3:19Speaker 5: Wow.
- 3:20Speaker 4: No, yeah, I think it's not that long. I think
- 3:24Speaker 4: it's like twenty fourteen or something.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 3:27Speaker 4: Okay, I remember they beat us in twenty twelve. It
- 3:31Speaker 4: was like Thursday night game.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:34Speaker 6: Anyways, it's gonna it's gonna be a tough that's a
- 3:37Speaker 6: tough game. And the game in Dandy's a tough game.
- 3:39Speaker 6: In the game at Denver is a tough game. But
- 3:42Speaker 6: the other three you should win, right you would agree
- 3:45Speaker 6: with that. And then if you say you get one
- 3:48Speaker 6: of the other ones, you're that's what that gives you
- 3:52Speaker 6: to what eleven.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Pete, Let me ask you this, what are you more
- 3:56Speaker 4: confident right now with this Jaguars team. Them winning in Nashville,
- 3:59Speaker 4: which haven't done a lot it seems like, or them
- 4:01Speaker 4: winning at home against the Colts.
- 4:06Speaker 5: Both.
- 4:07Speaker 3: I think they can win both.
- 4:08Speaker 5: I think they can win both.
- 4:10Speaker 6: Look, and again, this is the year to be a
- 4:14Speaker 6: not so great team and get into the playoffs because
- 4:17Speaker 6: there aren't many great teams in the AFC.
- 4:20Speaker 5: Everybody's kind of straggling along when you.
- 4:23Speaker 6: Look at it, and so I do think they could
- 4:25Speaker 6: get it. I said this on the air R and
- 4:27Speaker 6: R R last night. I said, if they get in,
- 4:30Speaker 6: they might be one of the worst playoff teams we've seen.
- 4:32Speaker 5: In a long time. What do they do? What are
- 4:34Speaker 5: they if I asked you this question in one certainty?
- 4:37Speaker 5: What do they do well?
- 4:40Speaker 4: The Jacksonville I think they can run the football really well,
- 4:43Speaker 4: and I think that they can stop the run run.
- 4:45Speaker 4: And when we talk about running the football and stopping
- 4:47Speaker 4: the run in cold weather and playoff climates, that can
- 4:50Speaker 4: make a difference.
- 4:52Speaker 6: I mean, do you get the impression that they're really
- 4:55Speaker 6: good as a run defense or that somehow because I don't.
- 4:59Speaker 6: You don't see dominance in the run game. And they've
- 5:01Speaker 6: been good against the run, but do you see who's
- 5:04Speaker 6: a dominant player in the run game on that defense?
- 5:07Speaker 6: Hamilton has been good, but is he dominant?
- 5:11Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're all pretty fast the run.
- 5:14Speaker 7: We know that has against the run, but you know,
- 5:21Speaker 7: huh been Okay, he's been, but there's yeah, yeah.
- 5:27Speaker 5: And they're okay.
- 5:29Speaker 6: It's weird when you look at their run defense numbers,
- 5:32Speaker 6: they would give you the idea that they're dominant as
- 5:34Speaker 6: a run team, as a run defense, and it doesn't
- 5:36Speaker 6: appear to be that way. They just they're good, sound
- 5:39Speaker 6: fundamental team is what they are. But they don't do
- 5:42Speaker 6: anything great, nothing, not one thing. There's not one thing.
- 5:46Speaker 5: You can sit there and say they do great if
- 5:49Speaker 5: you go look at the other teams. Again, that's a
- 5:51Speaker 5: by the way, it's a tribute.
- 5:52Speaker 6: To the head coach in a lot of ways that
- 5:54Speaker 6: they're they're at seven and four and they don't do
- 5:56Speaker 6: a lot of things great.
- 5:58Speaker 2: They're resilient, they win close games, learning how to win
- 6:00Speaker 2: games like this peat.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Well, okay, coach coach JP.
- 6:06Speaker 4: I really know at the end of the day, whether
- 6:10Speaker 4: you know they have the household names or not, whatever
- 6:12Speaker 4: the PFF numbers say or not, they are the number
- 6:15Speaker 4: one run stuffing team right now in the NFL. And
- 6:17Speaker 4: maybe more of that is due to a game plan
- 6:19Speaker 4: of an offense that looks at this Jaguars defense and says,
- 6:22Speaker 4: we can beat them over the middle more, we can
- 6:24Speaker 4: beat them with tight ends as opposed to running the football.
- 6:27Speaker 4: But every single time a team has tried to run
- 6:29Speaker 4: against the Jaguars, they have answered that call.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Now I mean, and I think that the.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Proy Niners game is kind of evident of that a
- 6:35Speaker 4: little bit because I don't think McCaffrey really had the
- 6:37Speaker 4: best of day, and they've been running a lot with McCaffrey.
- 6:40Speaker 4: So I mean, at the end of the day, listen,
- 6:43Speaker 4: you may think that it's not great. I think the
- 6:46Speaker 4: numbers speak differently, and their ability to run the football,
- 6:49Speaker 4: like I said in cold Weather in the playoffs, I
- 6:51Speaker 4: think that means something.
- 6:53Speaker 2: By the way, the last Jaguars loss at home to Indy, yes,
- 6:57Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, so ten can secut it wins for the
- 7:00Speaker 2: Jaguars at home against the Colts.
- 7:02Speaker 6: Crazy, it is, it's ten straight, ten straight.
- 7:08Speaker 5: And then before that there were a couple.
- 7:10Speaker 2: One of those was in London, by the way, so
- 7:12Speaker 2: nine technically here.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:13Speaker 6: But but also if I'm not mistaken, even before that,
- 7:16Speaker 6: there were like games where they won, like before that streak,
- 7:19Speaker 6: they won games here in Jacksonville two.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean the Colts won a bunch here
- 7:24Speaker 2: before that, but then there's been ten straight. I mean
- 7:27Speaker 2: they had won six of the previous eight here.
- 7:30Speaker 5: The Colts had that was with the Manning and gang, though.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Was Andrew Luck and then Manning in that before that,
- 7:38Speaker 2: so and then it was just a it was a
- 7:39Speaker 2: smorgas board of just random quarterbacks then making their way
- 7:42Speaker 2: through Jacksonville.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Right, yeah, this is how it went.
- 7:46Speaker 2: So all right, so we figured out what they do, well,
- 7:49Speaker 2: we figured out you know, now we got to figure
- 7:52Speaker 2: out the quarterback play.
- 7:54Speaker 3: You know what, four giveaways, three.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Interceptions, but but three touchdowns in the game too, Pete.
- 8:01Speaker 2: So there's a lot of a lot of bad, but
- 8:04Speaker 2: a lot of good to go with it.
- 8:05Speaker 5: And timber Lars experience, that's what it is. Get up
- 8:09Speaker 5: in one game. That's is exactly what it was.
- 8:12Speaker 6: Look, I watched the tape today and there are moments
- 8:17Speaker 6: in that game when you go, oh my god, that
- 8:20Speaker 6: throw both ways. I mean the throw he made to
- 8:27Speaker 6: Parker Washington on the sideline, I mean that was an
- 8:31Speaker 6: unreal throw. The throw for the touchdown, the Parker Washington,
- 8:34Speaker 6: great throw with pressure, with pressure, he side steps the
- 8:38Speaker 6: pressure makes the throw. I mean, look at this, he
- 8:41Speaker 6: got pressure coming off his right hops.
- 8:43Speaker 5: That's that's NFL quarterbacking right there, right, and he did it.
- 8:49Speaker 6: He did He made that look easy. That that's that's
- 8:52Speaker 6: the amazing look. Pressure step set throw. Some that's the
- 8:58Speaker 6: game where we don't see a lot of that from him.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Him.
- 9:01Speaker 6: I think sometimes when he has to do it, he's
- 9:06Speaker 6: at his best. And I guess I saw a stat
- 9:09Speaker 6: today that most of his interceptions have come when he's leading.
- 9:15Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy for all of them.
- 9:17Speaker 6: Even which that's incredible. That tells you when he has
- 9:22Speaker 6: to do it, he goes and does it. What does
- 9:25Speaker 6: he have five fourth quarter game winning drives? Is that
- 9:27Speaker 6: right this season?
- 9:30Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, So when he's had.
- 9:34Speaker 5: To do and he's done it.
- 9:36Speaker 6: But just some of the decisions, like okay, on the
- 9:40Speaker 6: one interception Buddha Baker made a really good play if
- 9:44Speaker 6: you remember yesterday, where he's.
- 9:46Speaker 5: Got to hold him in the middle a little bit
- 9:48Speaker 5: more with his eyes, or he could have taken the
- 9:51Speaker 5: throw to the to the tight end. It would have
- 9:53Speaker 5: been an easier throw. But he's got to hold it.
- 9:56Speaker 6: He clearly he's got to like hold them in the
- 9:59Speaker 6: middle right there, and he doesn't hold them.
- 10:03Speaker 5: So that's a bad decision on his part. Bad operation.
- 10:08Speaker 5: The one that was intercepted in the middle of the field.
- 10:11Speaker 5: He got fooled. He saw blitz guy was lined up
- 10:15Speaker 5: like his blitz and he thought he was gonna come,
- 10:17Speaker 5: and he doesn't come, and he dropped out. He didn't
- 10:20Speaker 5: see him.
- 10:20Speaker 6: So those are to me, those are really really bad
- 10:24Speaker 6: plays on his part, But there were a lot of
- 10:27Speaker 6: good ones. And when he had to do it, he
- 10:29Speaker 6: did it. That's a sign of a quarterback, right, you want.
- 10:31Speaker 5: Him to do it, He did it.
- 10:33Speaker 6: It's just the inconsistency. He should be beyond that by now.
- 10:37Speaker 6: He should be past that. He shouldn't have games like that,
- 10:40Speaker 6: and he does, and so there's always gonna be the
- 10:42Speaker 6: questions about it.
- 10:43Speaker 4: So to me, it's wild because if you go to
- 10:46Speaker 4: that Cardinals game and you saw a little bit of
- 10:47Speaker 4: it in the Houston Texans game as well as when
- 10:49Speaker 4: the Texans couldn't capitalize on a few interceptions. It almost
- 10:53Speaker 4: seems like now teams the secondary, they're almost baiting Trevor
- 10:55Speaker 4: Lawrence to try to make those throats right. And you
- 10:58Speaker 4: can bait a quarterback when he has a tendency just
- 11:01Speaker 4: to stare down a receiver. And I think both those
- 11:03Speaker 4: interceptions came from just simply staring down the wide receiver.
- 11:06Speaker 4: And the Cardinals players made great plays on that touchdown
- 11:10Speaker 4: to Parker, like everything was breaking down that's when you
- 11:13Speaker 4: guy kind of got to improvise and just say, Okay,
- 11:15Speaker 4: we're in the backyard, hopefully this gets there. It was
- 11:17Speaker 4: one of his best throws he's had all year. It
- 11:20Speaker 4: seems like when Trevor has time to overanalyze stuff, he
- 11:23Speaker 4: makes the mistakes. When things start breaking down, he's got
- 11:26Speaker 4: to act right now and not think about it. He
- 11:29Speaker 4: he does a much better job of hit hitting the
- 11:30Speaker 4: guy in the end zone or hitting these great passes.
- 11:32Speaker 3: It's just it's.
- 11:33Speaker 4: Wild because you think it'd be the other way, right, Like,
- 11:35Speaker 4: we have time to dissect and the pockets clean, Okay,
- 11:39Speaker 4: let me go here.
- 11:40Speaker 3: It's the opposite for Trevor Lawrence.
- 11:41Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of been his his calling
- 11:44Speaker 4: card this entire season of when it breaks down, this
- 11:47Speaker 4: dude can make every throw an elite quarterback can make
- 11:50Speaker 4: when he has time to analyze it and think about it.
- 11:53Speaker 6: Two blitzers in his face and he fires a shot
- 11:56Speaker 6: and there is amazing, I mean, and then when he's
- 12:00Speaker 6: standing there by himself, he has a hard time figuring.
- 12:03Speaker 5: Out what to do with it.
- 12:04Speaker 6: And it's just you're right, Austin, It's it's the strangest
- 12:07Speaker 6: thing and I've said that for a long time that
- 12:09Speaker 6: he plays his best when it's go time, when he's
- 12:12Speaker 6: it's Hophndered, it's go, go, go go, And when he's
- 12:16Speaker 6: within the structure, he doesn't play as good. He doesn't
- 12:20Speaker 6: play his best football that way. It's it's so weird.
- 12:23Speaker 6: It's one of the weirdest and maddening things. I think
- 12:26Speaker 6: if you're a head coach, it's got drug. You saw
- 12:28Speaker 6: Liam Cohen when he threw that interception in the middle
- 12:30Speaker 6: of the field, He's like.
- 12:30Speaker 5: What is he doing? He could figure it out by
- 12:34Speaker 5: the way I gotta.
- 12:35Speaker 6: I sent out a picture and I took it down,
- 12:38Speaker 6: and I'm trying to get clarification on it.
- 12:40Speaker 5: There was a zone read and I sent it out,
- 12:42Speaker 5: I took it down.
- 12:43Speaker 6: But it was a zone read where if I thought
- 12:46Speaker 6: it'd be handed the ball to Etn, he would have
- 12:50Speaker 6: run for thirty five yards and maybe housed it. The
- 12:54Speaker 6: end crashed, So everybody said, okay, well the end would
- 12:58Speaker 6: have eaten them up, and he pulled it yea, yeah
- 13:01Speaker 6: yards because they had a good scrape.
- 13:03Speaker 5: Now, the thing about that play is, I know what
- 13:06Speaker 5: his own read is.
- 13:06Speaker 6: When the end crashes, you pull it whatever if you know,
- 13:09Speaker 6: if he doesn't crash, you hand it off, all the
- 13:14Speaker 6: all the blocking and everything the action, what the other way?
- 13:19Speaker 6: And when you look at the way they blocked it,
- 13:22Speaker 6: So Austin, you would know.
- 13:23Speaker 3: This better than me for sure.
- 13:24Speaker 5: The defense, the defensive end.
- 13:28Speaker 6: On the right hand side of the defense, left hand summary. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 13:32Speaker 6: it's getting blocked by Hainsey.
- 13:34Speaker 5: Okay, think about that now.
- 13:36Speaker 3: The center yea.
- 13:37Speaker 6: So he's blocking out on him, but he's not trying
- 13:41Speaker 6: to get out in front of him.
- 13:43Speaker 5: He's trying to get him.
- 13:45Speaker 6: That way, like he's trying to get him here with
- 13:47Speaker 6: the run action going the other way.
- 13:49Speaker 5: If he was trying to if they were trying to
- 13:51Speaker 5: pull it and run the other way, what are you.
- 13:53Speaker 6: Trying took him and get outside of him?
- 13:56Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do remember this play.
- 13:59Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I'm like, oh, don't don't
- 14:01Speaker 4: pull it, just hand off to the ETN. It's right there,
- 14:03Speaker 4: like it's it's there, right. But then when I went
- 14:05Speaker 4: back to actually watch it, it looked like because and
- 14:08Speaker 4: I'm giving the Cardinals more benefit of the doubt here than anything,
- 14:10Speaker 4: because they seem to play pretty discipline on the defensive line.
- 14:13Speaker 4: And then that secondary. I think the defense, I mean,
- 14:15Speaker 4: all things considered, did all right. What it looked like
- 14:18Speaker 4: to me was is that the end had Trevor Lawrence
- 14:21Speaker 4: as his responsibility. So I'm sorry, I had Etn as
- 14:25Speaker 4: his responsibility because he was secondary on that Trevor Lawrence tackle.
- 14:29Speaker 4: So I think if he does hand that ball off
- 14:31Speaker 4: to Etn, I think Etn gets stopped for for two
- 14:33Speaker 4: or three yards. Now, it has to be a great
- 14:34Speaker 4: play by that defensive end, by that edge guy, but
- 14:37Speaker 4: I think that does. But I think he had responsibilities
- 14:42Speaker 4: in that play because if you watch him make that
- 14:43Speaker 4: tackle on Trevor, I think we're talking about the same
- 14:45Speaker 4: play here. When he makes that tackle or assisted tackle
- 14:47Speaker 4: on Trevor, it's secondary to him.
- 14:50Speaker 5: Well, because they had a scrape on the outside, so
- 14:52Speaker 5: that Trevor had nowhere to go period.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Correct.
- 14:55Speaker 5: But it's just and.
- 14:56Speaker 6: I'm trying to figure it out because I'm gonna ask somebody.
- 14:58Speaker 6: The blocking assignments on that play led me to believe
- 15:03Speaker 6: that the ball was supposed to be handed off and
- 15:05Speaker 6: go to the because you know his zone read.
- 15:07Speaker 5: If everything and.
- 15:08Speaker 6: They pinned and pulled to the right, he's supposed to
- 15:12Speaker 6: You're not gonna pull it and go the oppit. Usually
- 15:14Speaker 6: you don't pull it and go the opposite direction when
- 15:16Speaker 6: the blocking isn't going that way.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it may have been a blown assignment,
- 15:20Speaker 4: it may have been by design, but like at the
- 15:22Speaker 4: end of the day, I don't and I remember watching
- 15:24Speaker 4: it live thinking, okay, that that's that should have been
- 15:27Speaker 4: a first down if he hands that ball off.
- 15:29Speaker 5: But then like he read in the end, Yeah, he's
- 15:31Speaker 5: reading the end.
- 15:32Speaker 6: He pulls it, but I don't. It just didn't look
- 15:35Speaker 6: like the way the blocking was. And maybe everything I've ever.
- 15:38Speaker 5: Looked at I don't know.
- 15:39Speaker 6: If you look at it, if we have the play,
- 15:41Speaker 6: you can look at it, but it doesn't look like
- 15:42Speaker 6: it's blocked because Okay, if Haines he's.
- 15:45Speaker 5: Blocking that outside end, he's not a hook Kim. If
- 15:49Speaker 5: he's gonna pull up.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Well, keep in mind though, like sometimes it's not even
- 15:52Speaker 4: an aggressive block because you want to have that guy
- 15:54Speaker 4: in an island, right because sometimes if you're undisciplined, the
- 15:57Speaker 4: hope would be that he takes Trevor and he just
- 16:00Speaker 4: look at it.
- 16:01Speaker 5: I'm talking about the down player.
- 16:04Speaker 6: Okay, the end is up, he crashes, Yes, the down
- 16:07Speaker 6: player is the next player on that side, and Haines's
- 16:10Speaker 6: blocking him going opposite where the play is supposed you
- 16:15Speaker 6: know where Etn's going, so it looks like he's just
- 16:18Speaker 6: trying to shield get over it. They block down, they
- 16:20Speaker 6: pull around like that's supposed to go to the right side.
- 16:23Speaker 6: And that's why I said when I sent that out,
- 16:26Speaker 6: hand the ball off, and yeah, the end would have
- 16:29Speaker 6: made a great play to tackle him. But if he
- 16:30Speaker 6: hands the ball off, there's a chance he gets outside
- 16:33Speaker 6: there and gets out.
- 16:34Speaker 5: Trevor had no chance to pull it.
- 16:36Speaker 3: There was nothing there.
- 16:37Speaker 2: So am I hearing right now that Austin proved Pete wrong?
- 16:42Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing on this play?
- 16:44Speaker 5: No, he didn't.
- 16:46Speaker 6: I'm wrong if he's reading that guy. But it's just
- 16:49Speaker 6: the way the blocking is. I'm not so sure that's
- 16:52Speaker 6: supposed to be the play.
- 16:53Speaker 5: The way that play is supposed to go. And that's
- 16:55Speaker 5: all I think if you're reading, if you're reading that,
- 16:59Speaker 5: then why is the action all going the other way.
- 17:01Speaker 3: It's a good question. We might not know the answer
- 17:05Speaker 3: for a little while.
- 17:06Speaker 5: I'm gonna find the answer to that question out by
- 17:08Speaker 5: the way.
- 17:08Speaker 2: We'll come back in a moment. We won't have it
- 17:11Speaker 2: in three minutes, but we'll come back. We gotta get
- 17:13Speaker 2: to the defense as well a little bit later, back
- 17:15Speaker 2: of the offense and the skill guys who really stepped
- 17:18Speaker 2: up in this game for the Jaguars. Certainly an hour
- 17:21Speaker 2: two fan questions. We'll keep it real plenty ahead and
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- 17:48Speaker 8: Those guys, we had to use a lot of them
- 17:50Speaker 8: in terms of, you know, knowing that they were gonna
- 17:53Speaker 8: chuck it a good amount of times in this game.
- 17:56Speaker 8: We used a lot of guys in different positions. We
- 17:59Speaker 8: had a few substitution errors because of that. Danny kind
- 18:02Speaker 8: of got nicked and we were trying to put some
- 18:06Speaker 8: different guys in some different spots to give us some
- 18:09Speaker 8: more rush. But you know, they ran it for what
- 18:12Speaker 8: fifty five yards again, and we knew they were going
- 18:16Speaker 8: to want to come out and chuck in. We had
- 18:17Speaker 8: to impact them and influence the rush, which we did
- 18:20Speaker 8: in a lot of ways.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Hey, coach William Cohen, after the game in Arizona yesterday
- 18:24Speaker 2: discussing this Jaguars pass rush. You had Jacobe Bressett thirty
- 18:28Speaker 2: nine of thirty three of forty nine passing, so a
- 18:32Speaker 2: lot of attempts through the air in a Jaguars victory
- 18:34Speaker 2: yesterday in overtime twenty seven to twenty four. Welcome back
- 18:37Speaker 2: to the most important Happy Hour episode in franchise history.
- 18:42Speaker 2: JP Shadrick, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco and Jaguars. Happy Hour
- 18:48Speaker 2: is presented by Jet Home, Loans, tenjen xl Amjaguars dot Com,
- 18:51Speaker 2: and Jaguars YouTube. Jaguars Defense after all these giveaways, you know,
- 18:58Speaker 2: obviously it was the fumble return, town can't help that.
- 19:01Speaker 2: But the first two interceptions they get off the field
- 19:05Speaker 2: with three and outs right away. Now the third one
- 19:08Speaker 2: they let score, but the offense bounce back and was
- 19:11Speaker 2: able to get down the field and encounter that one.
- 19:14Speaker 2: But this jag Wars defense feels like it's been doing
- 19:17Speaker 2: a lot of that kind of thing. This year may
- 19:19Speaker 2: not be pretty. Sometimes it may not be you know,
- 19:23Speaker 2: super you know, shut down statistical every week, but situationally,
- 19:28Speaker 2: at least yesterday.
- 19:29Speaker 4: I thought they had a pretty good day overall. Yeah,
- 19:31Speaker 4: I mean, this was a bend, but don't break performance,
- 19:33Speaker 4: you know. And if you want to go in the
- 19:35Speaker 4: box score and see what Brissette did, see what McBride did,
- 19:37Speaker 4: see what Wilson did, you'd say, Okay, well, yeah they
- 19:40Speaker 4: let some stuff, you know, get behind him and happen.
- 19:43Speaker 4: But and I've been there anytime a team gives up
- 19:48Speaker 4: the ball four times and puts you behind.
- 19:50Speaker 3: The a ball like that.
- 19:51Speaker 4: To go out there and really only surrender seventeen points
- 19:53Speaker 4: because of you know, the one woman was a fumble
- 19:55Speaker 4: by Trevor for that touchdown, it's a it's a miraculous
- 19:59Speaker 4: job of that defense. It could have been a lot worse.
- 20:01Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought defense, you know, held up their
- 20:05Speaker 4: end of the play, and that definitely helped dig them,
- 20:07Speaker 4: you know, the offense out.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Of a hole with all those turnovers I had.
- 20:11Speaker 5: The defense did a nice job.
- 20:13Speaker 6: I mean, and they did a lot of good things
- 20:15Speaker 6: on different looks up front and.
- 20:17Speaker 5: Threw a bunch of looks at the Cardinals. I would look,
- 20:19Speaker 5: I think Campanelli's done a hell of a job with
- 20:22Speaker 5: that defense.
- 20:23Speaker 3: I really do.
- 20:24Speaker 6: I think he's you know, and remember Austin, we kind
- 20:27Speaker 6: of a couple of weeks ago, we said, well, they
- 20:28Speaker 6: backed off some of the stuff that they did, they
- 20:30Speaker 6: kind of simplify it.
- 20:32Speaker 5: Well, I think in this game they went back to
- 20:33Speaker 5: doing more of the stuff.
- 20:35Speaker 6: Up front and showing looks and coming after him and
- 20:37Speaker 6: attacking him, and I think it was I think it worked.
- 20:40Speaker 5: I mean, I think the plan worked. And when you
- 20:43Speaker 5: don't have.
- 20:46Speaker 6: Two dominant edge players, you know, the Texans can rush
- 20:50Speaker 6: for all the time if they want to because they
- 20:52Speaker 6: have two and they get pressure from the inside. Well
- 20:54Speaker 6: Jacksonville doesn't, so you got to create the pressure. You know,
- 20:57Speaker 6: Josh niz Allen's done a really good job, but you
- 20:59Speaker 6: didn't have anybody really on the other side with walk
- 21:02Speaker 6: Er not being there, and so I thought he responded
- 21:04Speaker 6: to that.
- 21:04Speaker 5: And did a nice shot. Camp had always done a
- 21:06Speaker 5: heck of a job with the defense, I really do so.
- 21:08Speaker 4: I think a few things that you saw against that
- 21:10Speaker 4: Cardinals team was Josh ein z Allen, now with Trey
- 21:13Speaker 4: Von Walker being out, kind of had the Max Crosby
- 21:16Speaker 4: treatment where they moved him all around. And I think
- 21:18Speaker 4: they're trying to key in on great matchups for Josh
- 21:20Speaker 4: ein Zouen. That's got to happen right when when he's
- 21:23Speaker 4: your best pass rusher out there, it's okay to go. Okay,
- 21:26Speaker 4: we get it that you'd like to be on the
- 21:28Speaker 4: left side. Let's go to the right side a little bit.
- 21:29Speaker 4: Let's move around a little bit. And also, if you
- 21:31Speaker 4: want to ask the question of how do you get
- 21:33Speaker 4: home if you can't get four, Devin Lloyd is your answer,
- 21:37Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd. And maybe that this whole defense of what
- 21:40Speaker 4: was missing him the entire time. But when you want
- 21:43Speaker 4: to talk about what he does well, Pete, there's a
- 21:46Speaker 4: better linebacker in terms of blitzing and running games like
- 21:49Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd. Like it's it's one thing to be on
- 21:52Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, you know what with it the
- 21:54Speaker 4: fore man front. You're running exits and texas and you're
- 21:56Speaker 4: setting picks and everything for everybody. It's another thing to
- 22:00Speaker 4: be a linebacker and have that reckless abandonment and just
- 22:03Speaker 4: kind of throw your body in the mix and still
- 22:05Speaker 4: try to set his picker, set a screen for a
- 22:08Speaker 4: defensive end or defensive tackle. Lloyd is one of the
- 22:10Speaker 4: best at doing that, and when he does do that,
- 22:13Speaker 4: it causes chaos for offensive lineman. And then there we
- 22:16Speaker 4: get home a couple of times, just simply with him
- 22:18Speaker 4: being able to rush the passer and blitz well.
- 22:20Speaker 6: And that's what he did in college. I mean that,
- 22:23Speaker 6: and that's where he excelled. I think they've taken advantage
- 22:26Speaker 6: of that. The last regime didn't do that as much,
- 22:28Speaker 6: and and I think it hurt him. I mean, because
- 22:31Speaker 6: he's he's one of those guys, like you said, he
- 22:32Speaker 6: can he can make plays in the passing game, he
- 22:34Speaker 6: can run, he's you know, he gets lost in covers sometimes,
- 22:37Speaker 6: he gets lost, you know, as a run stuffing linebacker times.
- 22:41Speaker 5: So why not utilize what's his strength? And I think
- 22:43Speaker 5: they've done that.
- 22:43Speaker 6: I think he's That's when I go back to Campanelli
- 22:46Speaker 6: being he's been he's done a really good job. You know,
- 22:48Speaker 6: his name is mentioned in New York as a possible
- 22:51Speaker 6: head coaching candidate. I don't think he's going to get
- 22:53Speaker 6: the job, but look, that's that tells you people are
- 22:56Speaker 6: paying attention to what he's doing in his first year.
- 22:58Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd five tackles sacond and a half, two tackles
- 23:02Speaker 2: for loss, and five quarterback hits in the game yesterday,
- 23:05Speaker 2: including that one on the sideline which was fantastic on Brissette,
- 23:10Speaker 2: knocked him out for a little bit clean hit he
- 23:12Speaker 2: was in bounds.
- 23:13Speaker 4: Do you think that was maybe a makeup call though
- 23:15Speaker 4: for the for the one where that he put his
- 23:17Speaker 4: body weight on top of him for that one hit,
- 23:19Speaker 4: because I thought the one out of bounds had more
- 23:22Speaker 4: of a flagrant in old grit than the one where
- 23:24Speaker 4: he hit the quarterback in the hit.
- 23:27Speaker 6: What's that three times in three weeks they've been called
- 23:30Speaker 6: for that three weeks in a row.
- 23:31Speaker 3: Yeah, let's watch it.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna take a look on Jaguars dot Com.
- 23:36Speaker 5: And Jaguars Huge. That was a bad call.
- 23:38Speaker 2: See, I thought this one was a little more to
- 23:41Speaker 2: the book.
- 23:42Speaker 5: Than the BJ green last week for sure.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Because his shoulder I think was probably on him.
- 23:47Speaker 3: But he's letting up and watching. He even like kind
- 23:48Speaker 3: of lifts up his arms a little bit here. I
- 23:52Speaker 3: don't know.
- 23:52Speaker 5: I don't know what's he supposed to do in that scenario.
- 23:55Speaker 5: He kind of turns to the side a little bit.
- 23:58Speaker 5: He doesn't really he's across his box. He not on
- 24:00Speaker 5: his body.
- 24:02Speaker 3: First permission next time, I guess, Yeah, is this cool?
- 24:05Speaker 3: You called me.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Across the field? Is okay, if I hit you.
- 24:08Speaker 6: No, that wasn't That was not I didn't think that
- 24:12Speaker 6: was That should have been called. That was not as
- 24:14Speaker 6: bad as last week, but it should have been called I.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Think honestly, I think I could see how they called
- 24:20Speaker 2: it because he did land on him instead of on
- 24:23Speaker 2: the side the one last week Green was on the
- 24:25Speaker 2: side of him, So I don't know that where that.
- 24:27Speaker 6: But he's kind of like if this is his body,
- 24:29Speaker 6: he's kind of across his body and not right on
- 24:32Speaker 6: top of it. So it's look, you can't hit him, aye,
- 24:35Speaker 6: you can't hit him alone, and you can't land on him.
- 24:37Speaker 5: Other than that, go ahead and.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Sack Himan lost his mind on the broadcast, by the way, I.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Believe it, man, I bet I would imagine broadcasts. I
- 24:46Speaker 4: would have been escorted out of there in a heartbeat.
- 24:48Speaker 4: But the one towards the sideline note where sat like,
- 24:51Speaker 4: I thought for sure they were gonna they're gonna throw that.
- 24:52Speaker 4: I mean they did, they do the flag, they picked
- 24:55Speaker 4: it up. I was a little surprised with that one.
- 24:58Speaker 3: Mm.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So Jaguars defense getting the job done yesterday and moving ahead,
- 25:05Speaker 2: you know they're gonna be They might have some guys
- 25:07Speaker 2: coming back in the next few weeks as well. Jordan
- 25:09Speaker 2: Lewis has been down. We'll see how bad the trayvon
- 25:11Speaker 2: Walker thing. Is not sure on that one, but they've
- 25:14Speaker 2: you know, Eric Murray in the back end. If they
- 25:16Speaker 2: get some of these guys back healthy again, okay, especially
- 25:20Speaker 2: and that's no I was gonna say.
- 25:22Speaker 4: And this defensive line is finally starting to find their
- 25:25Speaker 4: groove a little bit. Well, well, you've had two great
- 25:27Speaker 4: matchups to going on your third great matchup now, because Chargers,
- 25:30Speaker 4: we saw what they were. You saw what the Cardinals were.
- 25:33Speaker 4: Now the Tennessee Titans aren't that much better at the
- 25:35Speaker 4: tackle position they have. They have two guys that are
- 25:38Speaker 4: just mediocre. Maybe right now they're playing Sodia.
- 25:41Speaker 5: That's a mediocre offensive lineup.
- 25:43Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, So if you're Josh heinz Allen, if treyvon
- 25:45Speaker 4: Walker comes back like you should be eating there too
- 25:47Speaker 4: as well.
- 25:47Speaker 3: And Cam Mortill run into a few too, you think so.
- 25:51Speaker 6: Yeah, And by the way, we got to give a
- 25:52Speaker 6: little shout out to the corners who are playing. Yeah,
- 25:56Speaker 6: I mean those guys that Jari and Jones stepped it up,
- 25:58Speaker 6: I thought, braswell. May some good plays and and those
- 26:01Speaker 6: guys have done some good things.
- 26:03Speaker 5: Like k Brown, I mean he's a bad You know,
- 26:05Speaker 5: we always.
- 26:06Speaker 6: Talk about football players Austin football players. We're seeing those guys.
- 26:11Speaker 6: They're limited somewhat in athletic ability.
- 26:14Speaker 5: You know, Brown is football player. They make plays.
- 26:18Speaker 2: About Antonio Johnson too coming in for a sack on
- 26:20Speaker 2: the blitz.
- 26:21Speaker 5: Too well, and that's where he's at his best.
- 26:23Speaker 6: By the way, you get him in the back end
- 26:24Speaker 6: and he's spinning around, you don't know what he's doing.
- 26:26Speaker 5: He'd losing missing an assignment, that's a problem, but when
- 26:28Speaker 5: he's up there line of scrimmage, he can do a
- 26:30Speaker 5: lot of things well.
- 26:31Speaker 4: I think the other side of it, though, is what
- 26:32Speaker 4: about Newsome was it is he banged.
- 26:37Speaker 6: Ordinary well, he didn't start team decision, didn't play the
- 26:42Speaker 6: first quarter, so something happened.
- 26:44Speaker 4: I don't know, no, I mean he was out there
- 26:46Speaker 4: and then he got Wilson I think beat him a
- 26:48Speaker 4: couple of times out of that, and then they.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Pulled him out. Did he not start the game too?
- 26:54Speaker 3: Let me check, we double check started.
- 26:57Speaker 4: I remember him, it's in the game, it seems I
- 27:00Speaker 4: think they pulled him like in the first quarter because.
- 27:03Speaker 5: They took him out right away the first quarter.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Because they had him in zone and for whatever reason,
- 27:07Speaker 4: there was just he was kind of on soft coverage
- 27:09Speaker 4: and then we never saw him and so I don't
- 27:11Speaker 4: know if he was banged up.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Remember he was hurt a week before.
- 27:14Speaker 5: Yeah, how many snaps did he play?
- 27:17Speaker 3: Stand by? Let me do that.
- 27:19Speaker 4: Let me do not many, because then Braswell, I believe,
- 27:21Speaker 4: came in for him.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Greg Newsome, the Jaguars cornerback in the game, had twenty
- 27:29Speaker 2: seven snaps thirty two percent.
- 27:30Speaker 3: But he's in on Was he on special teams?
- 27:32Speaker 5: Ten on special yeah, yeah, seventeen on defense?
- 27:37Speaker 2: He had twenty seven on defense thirty two per ten
- 27:41Speaker 2: on special teams thirty three percent of the special teams.
- 27:44Speaker 4: And special teams he was in there in the second
- 27:46Speaker 4: half too, so it wasn't I mean, I don't think
- 27:48Speaker 4: it's an injury then if he's playing special teams, right,
- 27:50Speaker 4: maybe the guys he yegged, Yeah he had YGGD Maybe
- 27:54Speaker 4: he did.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Maybe maybe he's gonna get the Kaylor Saunders treatment.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment.
- 28:03Speaker 3: We're keeping it real here, apparently we're doing it early.
- 28:08Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the Jaguars offensive skilled players
- 28:11Speaker 2: who've had days at the office. Yesterday, we're on ten
- 28:15Speaker 2: ten x l AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube
- 28:18Speaker 2: and it's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 28:24Speaker 9: You know, I think just the belief we have in
- 28:27Speaker 9: our team in the locker room, and like I said,
- 28:30Speaker 9: I think we've grown from some of the tough losses
- 28:33Speaker 9: too over the season.
- 28:34Speaker 5: You know, we've had some tough losses too, you know.
- 28:36Speaker 9: You know, like you said, we've won a lot of
- 28:37Speaker 9: the close ones, but we've also had some close losses.
- 28:39Speaker 9: So I think you learn from it, and you learn
- 28:42Speaker 9: that in the NFL every week it's it's a week
- 28:44Speaker 9: to week league. You got a week to week league
- 28:47Speaker 9: and you got to play well and then all these
- 28:50Speaker 9: games are going to be close. So you just got
- 28:51Speaker 9: to find a way to finish. So it doesn't matter
- 28:52Speaker 9: what happened the first three quarters of the game. You
- 28:56Speaker 9: just got to find a way to win it in
- 28:57Speaker 9: the fourth. And I think we're learning that and we're
- 29:00Speaker 9: doing a good job of that.
- 29:01Speaker 3: We just gotta keep doing it.
- 29:02Speaker 2: That's quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Of course, four giveaways in the game,
- 29:07Speaker 2: three interceptions, one fumble lost, and it is his first
- 29:11Speaker 2: career win in a game with three or more giveaways.
- 29:15Speaker 2: How about that he was over before welcome back?
- 29:18Speaker 5: It is you would think that's the case.
- 29:20Speaker 2: J Yes, usually how that works, one follows the other.
- 29:25Speaker 6: But by the way, the elephant in the room has
- 29:28Speaker 6: been we haven't brought it up.
- 29:32Speaker 3: What's that, Pete?
- 29:33Speaker 5: We haven't brought up the elephant in the room today.
- 29:36Speaker 3: What's that?
- 29:39Speaker 5: Why the hell did you kick the field goal?
- 29:43Speaker 3: Well?
- 29:44Speaker 2: It real right now? I mean we can we can
- 29:46Speaker 2: do that if you want.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Were we gonna go use that for n't center for
- 29:53Speaker 3: the co pilot?
- 29:55Speaker 2: No, we can.
- 29:59Speaker 3: I just want answer man, because I.
- 30:02Speaker 5: Sent you guys a video of that place.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch it, Pete. So all right,
- 30:09Speaker 3: let's get to that then.
- 30:10Speaker 2: I mean, the Jags are up three, it's fourth down,
- 30:12Speaker 2: they're deep in territory, and.
- 30:16Speaker 3: They go for it on fourth down and don't get it.
- 30:20Speaker 5: Okay, Now, the rational rationale is to get a yard
- 30:26Speaker 5: and a half.
- 30:26Speaker 6: It wasn't a yard either. That was the longest yard
- 30:29Speaker 6: and what was it on the game book? It set
- 30:30Speaker 6: a yard, But that just shows you the difference between
- 30:33Speaker 6: an inch and two.
- 30:34Speaker 5: You know it's almost two yards. So the idea is
- 30:38Speaker 5: to get the first down and the game's over.
- 30:41Speaker 6: Okay, I get it, yes, but why not kick to
- 30:46Speaker 6: make it six with.
- 30:50Speaker 5: No timeouts left?
- 30:52Speaker 6: And the thinking is, okay, well they'll go down and
- 30:56Speaker 6: they'll have shots in the end zone to try and
- 30:57Speaker 6: beat you. But the other side of that is this,
- 31:02Speaker 6: when you play it the way by kicking the field goal,
- 31:05Speaker 6: you know the only way they can beat you is
- 31:07Speaker 6: with a touchdowns, so you defend them differently as well.
- 31:12Speaker 6: And so I think in that scenario, I kick make
- 31:16Speaker 6: it six, and if that team goes down and gets
- 31:19Speaker 6: a touchdown with no timeouts left, then so be it.
- 31:23Speaker 5: They deserve to win the game. That's the way I
- 31:25Speaker 5: would have played it.
- 31:26Speaker 3: But this is the NFL today, Pete.
- 31:30Speaker 5: So what does it mean they're all That doesn't mean
- 31:32Speaker 5: they're all right?
- 31:33Speaker 6: I mean I went to a laundry list last night
- 31:36Speaker 6: watching every game of the idiots and morons doing it
- 31:38Speaker 6: everywhere over the league. I mean, you're sixteen to seven
- 31:42Speaker 6: in the Saints game, you're down that oh that's nine.
- 31:45Speaker 6: You have a fourth down inside the fifteen yard line
- 31:48Speaker 6: twice you think you try and kick a field goal
- 31:49Speaker 6: to make it six.
- 31:51Speaker 5: I don't need to.
- 31:52Speaker 4: Yeah, see, like this is where we're the analyticstriving a
- 31:55Speaker 4: little crazy because I feel like teams, I mean, every
- 31:57Speaker 4: team's doing this, and I feel like it's it's falling
- 31:59Speaker 4: flat on its face. So like, next year, you mean
- 32:01Speaker 4: to tell me we go to the analytics, Like, well,
- 32:03Speaker 4: analytics actually say kick that field goal because teams aren't
- 32:05Speaker 4: really converting like they want to. Like, who knows what
- 32:08Speaker 4: the whole analytics will say about next year? But what
- 32:10Speaker 4: do the analytics say when you had four turnovers and
- 32:13Speaker 4: your defense is only surroundered to seventeen points? Like what
- 32:16Speaker 4: do the analytics say about that? Maybe relying your defense?
- 32:18Speaker 4: Like I understand because Dan Campbell has has won a
- 32:21Speaker 4: locker room with this type of behavior right by saying
- 32:24Speaker 4: we're gonna go out there and win the football game
- 32:25Speaker 4: with our offense Jared Goff and company. I believe in
- 32:28Speaker 4: you go when it's the football game, you know, And
- 32:30Speaker 4: I think he's got a lot of people that support him.
- 32:33Speaker 3: Because of that kind of philosophy.
- 32:35Speaker 4: This is still a young team, still learning their coach
- 32:37Speaker 4: and everything. I would have much rather kicked that field
- 32:40Speaker 4: goal right there. And then tell my defense, hey, many timeouts,
- 32:44Speaker 4: they bend, don't break, don't give up the long one,
- 32:49Speaker 4: and let's get this win.
- 32:50Speaker 3: Like I would have.
- 32:51Speaker 4: This is me being a defensive guy, but I would
- 32:53Speaker 4: have put it on my defense to say we're up
- 32:55Speaker 4: by six right now, keep him out of the end zone.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Simple as that.
- 32:59Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, look, I praise that hell out
- 33:02Speaker 6: of Liam Cone. I think Liam Cohne's done a great
- 33:04Speaker 6: I think he's a great coach.
- 33:06Speaker 5: I'll be honest. I think he's on his way to
- 33:07Speaker 5: be in a really.
- 33:08Speaker 6: Truly special coach in this league. He gets it, the
- 33:11Speaker 6: players respect him. And he's also a great play caller,
- 33:15Speaker 6: so you could buy. You know, sometimes you get the
- 33:16Speaker 6: great play caller can't handle the room. Sometimes you get
- 33:18Speaker 6: the guy who can handle the room, you can't call play.
- 33:20Speaker 5: He could do both.
- 33:21Speaker 6: But when it comes to game management, at times irrational.
- 33:26Speaker 6: And I thought that was irrational the other day on Sunday.
- 33:29Speaker 6: I'll give you another example being irrational. At the end
- 33:32Speaker 6: of the half, he hits the shot to Jacoby Myers,
- 33:35Speaker 6: then they ruled it was incomplete.
- 33:38Speaker 5: Then he had eight seconds.
- 33:40Speaker 6: Why in the hell would you try and throw a
- 33:43Speaker 6: pass in that situation.
- 33:45Speaker 5: The only thing that can happen there is bad.
- 33:48Speaker 6: You can get the quarterback hit, he can get hurt,
- 33:50Speaker 6: You get in a turnover that turns into points.
- 33:53Speaker 5: You can't in eight seconds.
- 33:55Speaker 6: You're not completing the pass to get you in the
- 33:56Speaker 6: field goal range with no timeouts to set up to
- 33:59Speaker 6: kick a field goal.
- 34:00Speaker 5: It's not happening. Is impossible. It's not possible. The mechanics
- 34:03Speaker 5: of it say, is not possible.
- 34:04Speaker 6: So why would you just take it in go to
- 34:07Speaker 6: the half once the other one was ruled incomplete?
- 34:10Speaker 5: You can't do anything there. That's the kind of situational
- 34:13Speaker 5: stuff that drives me up a wall.
- 34:16Speaker 3: I wonder.
- 34:17Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, this his first year as a head coach,
- 34:19Speaker 2: having a made these decisions too, so I mean he'll
- 34:23Speaker 2: I'm sure review it at the end of the season
- 34:25Speaker 2: and figure out maybe if some might be the same
- 34:28Speaker 2: course of action and fourth down going in aggressively. But
- 34:31Speaker 2: in that situation, Pete might realize, you know what, yeah,
- 34:34Speaker 2: that's that's impossible.
- 34:35Speaker 4: But you can kind of get it though, right because
- 34:37Speaker 4: pet you mentioned it, like, yes, he is a great
- 34:39Speaker 4: play caller, but he's kind of mastered the psychology actu
- 34:42Speaker 4: like of a locker room as well. And and I
- 34:44Speaker 4: think you have an offense that is looking for some
- 34:47Speaker 4: more motivation, looking for something to rally behind.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Like if I'm Liam, call and I tell her, hey,
- 34:51Speaker 3: this is it.
- 34:52Speaker 4: If you guys, can you know, convert this long fourth
- 34:55Speaker 4: and one or fourth and one and a half. The
- 34:57Speaker 4: games are so like, maybe that's more of him just
- 35:00Speaker 4: saying let's give me a little bump here on the offense.
- 35:02Speaker 4: Because keep in mind they did it in Cincinnati as well,
- 35:05Speaker 4: and he gave Brian Thomas Junior an opportunity to try
- 35:08Speaker 4: to win the football game. We know how that ended, right,
- 35:10Speaker 4: he dropped it on fourth down.
- 35:12Speaker 3: So it's not like it's odd of characteristic for Liam Collen.
- 35:15Speaker 4: This is what he wants to do that I feel
- 35:17Speaker 4: like he's trying to give his offense some more confidence.
- 35:19Speaker 3: It's just it's not work.
- 35:21Speaker 2: It's Dan Campbell, I mean get his no, not on
- 35:23Speaker 2: that level when a few years ago, right, But.
- 35:26Speaker 6: Well, the Giants did it yesterday that and against the Lions,
- 35:29Speaker 6: they had they're up three, had a fourth down on
- 35:31Speaker 6: the goal line and decided that well go for it,
- 35:34Speaker 6: and they went for it, lines went down and got
- 35:35Speaker 6: a field goal went to overtime and wanted overtime. I mean,
- 35:39Speaker 6: you got if you got to make a team drive
- 35:41Speaker 6: to a touchdown to beat you, that's the way.
- 35:43Speaker 5: To play it. I'm sorry.
- 35:44Speaker 6: If there's five minutes to go in the game, it's
- 35:46Speaker 6: a different story. But there was what a minute and whatever.
- 35:49Speaker 5: And no time. They had no timeouts. And by the way,
- 35:52Speaker 5: that's another thing about the analytics game.
- 35:54Speaker 6: We all talk about what didn't say on the stat
- 35:56Speaker 6: sheet on that play JP fourth.
- 35:58Speaker 3: N and one one?
- 36:03Speaker 5: That wasn't fourth Okay.
- 36:04Speaker 6: If it's an inch to the to the yard line,
- 36:07Speaker 6: it's fourth and one. That was barely that was almost
- 36:10Speaker 6: two full yards that was you know, so that all
- 36:13Speaker 6: fourth and ones aren't created the same either, but by
- 36:16Speaker 6: the analytics they are, and all the data they throw
- 36:19Speaker 6: in every fourth and one is the same, and they're
- 36:20Speaker 6: not all the same.
- 36:22Speaker 5: We just saw that yesterday.
- 36:23Speaker 3: They're not the same inches to a little over here,
- 36:26Speaker 3: that's a that's a yard difference.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Right, It's a different play.
- 36:30Speaker 6: And by the way, the play call, as great a
- 36:32Speaker 6: play call or he's been, I didn't like that play call. Everybody,
- 36:37Speaker 6: everybody in the world knew he was boot Okay, I'm
- 36:40Speaker 6: gonna I'll give you Okay, I'm gonna give you.
- 36:42Speaker 5: Example, after Trevor through.
- 36:44Speaker 6: The interception and they wapped behind the first play, I
- 36:49Speaker 6: was sitting there going, God, I can't imagine he's.
- 36:51Speaker 5: Gonna throw the ball first down. And what did he do?
- 36:54Speaker 6: He ran a boot got him outside and hit Strange
- 36:57Speaker 6: for that big play down the sideline.
- 36:59Speaker 5: I went, oh my, that's why he's a great play caller.
- 37:02Speaker 5: I'm the idiot. He's a great play caller. And then
- 37:06Speaker 5: and he is a great play caller.
- 37:07Speaker 6: I think he's really going to be special once he
- 37:09Speaker 6: gets all the weapons around him. But then you go
- 37:11Speaker 6: and I didn't like the half field bootleg.
- 37:14Speaker 5: I don't know what he was trying to do there.
- 37:16Speaker 4: Well, to me, I mean, okay, I think Trevor, I mean,
- 37:19Speaker 4: I mean, I'll try to break it.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so.
- 37:23Speaker 4: Listen, Trevor seems to be when he's on the run,
- 37:26Speaker 4: when it's a little more chaotic, I think he's a
- 37:28Speaker 4: better quarterback.
- 37:28Speaker 3: So I think that win didn't do that play call.
- 37:31Speaker 4: Now, the problem with that play call was, well, you're
- 37:34Speaker 4: on the right hash, so you're already on the short
- 37:35Speaker 4: side of the field. So you're essentially running your quarterback
- 37:38Speaker 4: to the short side of the field. You don't have
- 37:40Speaker 4: a lot of room to work with. Now, Arizona made
- 37:42Speaker 4: a great play and everything that. They had great discipline there.
- 37:45Speaker 4: But I think the thought was is, all right, you
- 37:47Speaker 4: have an intermediate pass you can go to. There's a
- 37:49Speaker 4: deep pass you can go to, or if it's there,
- 37:52Speaker 4: just take the you know, take the ball, Trevor and
- 37:54Speaker 4: get that one yard. So there was a couple options there.
- 37:58Speaker 4: The problem was was towards the short side of the field.
- 38:00Speaker 4: Then all those options were taken. It was a great,
- 38:02Speaker 4: you know, defensive play call by the Cardinals as well.
- 38:07Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes in those scenarios, what I would like is
- 38:09Speaker 6: if you spread them out, you know, because everybody gets
- 38:13Speaker 6: so bunched up together in those situations. If you spread
- 38:16Speaker 6: them out, you give your quarterback a read or maybe
- 38:18Speaker 6: he can run.
- 38:19Speaker 5: It, you know, like we saw him run on the
- 38:21Speaker 5: quarterback draw the one time. There are other options there.
- 38:23Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 38:24Speaker 6: I didn't like the play call, but I didn't like
- 38:26Speaker 6: the decision either, I'm honest about that. But I again,
- 38:29Speaker 6: I love what he does from a coaching standpoint with
- 38:32Speaker 6: the locker room, his postgame speeches are spot on every time,
- 38:37Speaker 6: and I love him as a play caller in most situations.
- 38:40Speaker 5: I just don't think the decision there was the right
- 38:42Speaker 5: one in my book, got.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Away with it, No, I'm and I agree. Yeah.
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- 39:00Speaker 2: to co pilot. Austin's favorite segment when we come back,
- 39:04Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. Welcome
- 39:15Speaker 2: back to Jaguars Happy Our final moments of our number
- 39:19Speaker 2: one presented by Jet Home Loans. It's time to visit
- 39:24Speaker 2: Microsoft co pilot. Our weekly question. This week, the question
- 39:30Speaker 2: is what's the Jaguars overtime record this season?
- 39:36Speaker 3: It doesn't take long for.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Microsoft Copilot to tell you the Jaguars are two and
- 39:42Speaker 2: zero overtime games in twenty twenty five, wins against the
- 39:44Speaker 2: Raiders in Week nine and the Cardinals in Week twelve.
- 39:48Speaker 3: And welcome back.
- 39:48Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Austin, Lane, Pete
- 39:52Speaker 2: Prisco and Austin JP.
- 39:54Speaker 4: Don't don't let you know we're out that processor there
- 39:56Speaker 4: with that hard question.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we can do that later a
- 40:00Speaker 2: different segment because you like to double down off camera.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Love that absolutely, just to test it out, test out
- 40:06Speaker 2: the systems.
- 40:07Speaker 4: I'm just trying to see what we are with AI. Now,
- 40:09Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I always there on the
- 40:12Speaker 4: side of caution when it comes to AI.
- 40:14Speaker 5: Why do you ask that thing? If Liam Cohen should
- 40:16Speaker 5: have kicked a field goal in that.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Situation, well we can do that, and we can do
- 40:19Speaker 2: that in the second hour if you want.
- 40:22Speaker 5: That thing could be as wrong as he was.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Man, Wow, you know what overtime? Speaking of strategy, Jaguars
- 40:31Speaker 2: took the ball first in.
- 40:33Speaker 5: Overtime, which most teams are not doing.
- 40:36Speaker 2: Right, So what what do you guys prefer in that case?
- 40:40Speaker 3: Now?
- 40:40Speaker 4: Since both teams get a possession now, so there's arguments
- 40:43Speaker 4: for both sides. Obviously it worked against the Raiders, right,
- 40:46Speaker 4: you won that football game. If it's me, I would
- 40:49Speaker 4: actually kick off, and I would I would take the
- 40:52Speaker 4: ball second because I like being in more control of
- 40:55Speaker 4: knowing exactly what I need to do. Do I need
- 40:57Speaker 4: a field goal? Do I need a touchdown? I think
- 41:00Speaker 4: that I think that on's gonta done the short what
- 41:02Speaker 4: the analytics say, and I'm sure co Pilot says. But
- 41:05Speaker 4: to me, I feel a lot more comfortable in knowing
- 41:07Speaker 4: exactly what I have to do.
- 41:09Speaker 3: Plus you can go for it, correct.
- 41:12Speaker 6: You know, if you if you're like, if it was
- 41:14Speaker 6: fourth down and you knew you needed a touchdown, you
- 41:17Speaker 6: go for it.
- 41:18Speaker 5: So the other way around, you don't necessarily do that.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:21Speaker 4: Now, the other way around is is that the defense
- 41:23Speaker 4: could be gassed, right, so you put the defense back
- 41:25Speaker 4: out there if you're the Jaguars.
- 41:27Speaker 6: Or or you use enough time that it's problematic that
- 41:30Speaker 6: they don't get enough time to go get a get
- 41:32Speaker 6: a touchdown.
- 41:33Speaker 5: But if you got one, you know.
- 41:34Speaker 3: What I mean.
- 41:35Speaker 6: So there's there's both ways. I just think i'd rather know,
- 41:38Speaker 6: just like the college team. The college teams always differ.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Right, so they know what to yeah, what they have
- 41:44Speaker 2: to do. If they only have to kick a field.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Now they only they get it at the twenty five,
- 41:47Speaker 2: go it in, so you can just kick the field
- 41:48Speaker 2: going first down.
- 41:49Speaker 6: So true, right, but but still you'd rather wouldn't you
- 41:53Speaker 6: rather know?
- 41:53Speaker 5: I'd rather know, but.
- 41:56Speaker 6: Because now his thinking might be I'm gonna go use
- 42:00Speaker 6: as much time off the clock as I possibly can,
- 42:02Speaker 6: and they get the ball back. Whatever I did get,
- 42:04Speaker 6: they're not going to have a lot of time to
- 42:05Speaker 6: go get it. You can also think.
- 42:07Speaker 5: It that way. I'd do it the other way. I
- 42:09Speaker 5: would definitely do it the other way.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Same.
- 42:11Speaker 2: All right, there's the answer right there.
- 42:14Speaker 5: What I say, I.
- 42:18Speaker 3: Haven't gotten into that one yet. I haven't gotten that
- 42:21Speaker 3: one yet.
- 42:22Speaker 2: So we'll touch a little deeper on this on this
- 42:26Speaker 2: schedule coming up in a little while and the path
- 42:31Speaker 2: ahead for the Jaguars here. But I mean, the pass
- 42:34Speaker 2: looking pretty good right now, right the tight I mean.
- 42:36Speaker 5: You're talking playoffs at Thanksgiving with the name.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Think about that, and that's the motion.
- 42:40Speaker 5: I mean, that's all you need to know. That's all
- 42:42Speaker 5: you Like, you said they'd be the sixth seed right now.
- 42:45Speaker 5: It's incredible.
- 42:47Speaker 4: I don't remember this even happening in seventeen, Like they
- 42:50Speaker 4: got hot later than this to get it. Yeah, and
- 42:54Speaker 4: then twenty twenty two certainly not. I mean there are
- 42:57Speaker 4: four games back in the division. Yeah, I mean, it's
- 43:00Speaker 4: crazy if you would have told me, you know, when
- 43:01Speaker 4: the season started that oh yeah, by the time of
- 43:04Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving Jaguars are well, and then the playoff picture
- 43:07Speaker 4: and then they're comfortable and then we're having fun. I've
- 43:10Speaker 4: been like, okay, well, obviously the offense might must be
- 43:12Speaker 4: like a top eight offense in the league. Defense is
- 43:15Speaker 4: doing okay, and like it doesn't feel like that's the
- 43:17Speaker 4: case right that. There's been some ugly wins or losses
- 43:21Speaker 4: as well, But the fact of the matter is is
- 43:23Speaker 4: that they're in the playoff picture and that's all that matters. Like,
- 43:27Speaker 4: once again, sometimes it's not about the destination. I'm sorry,
- 43:30Speaker 4: it's not about the journey. It's a destination. And right now,
- 43:33Speaker 4: destination looking pretty peachy.
- 43:37Speaker 6: Looking very peachy. I mean I almost nah, I can't.
- 43:41Speaker 2: I Oh, Pete, come on, what were you about to
- 43:44Speaker 2: do there?
- 43:46Speaker 5: Maybe number two? I got to think about it a
- 43:48Speaker 5: little bit.
- 43:48Speaker 4: Come on, Pete, I'll tell you right now. I mean,
- 43:50Speaker 4: come on, Pete, come on, Pete, come on.
- 43:53Speaker 5: What are you doing? What are you doing? Austin, you
- 43:56Speaker 5: know what.
- 43:56Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it? And then I'm thinking about maybe,
- 43:58Speaker 4: you know, shutting that door a little bit. It maybe
- 44:01Speaker 4: turn the key a little bit. I'm thinking about it.
- 44:04Speaker 5: I'm kidding out, Not for a game. I'm thinking about
- 44:07Speaker 5: doing it the other.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Way for the playoffs. Yeah, Oh, he's gonna wow. Is
- 44:13Speaker 3: that like bonus points?
- 44:15Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's multiple wins ahead.
- 44:18Speaker 3: That's that's EVP status right there. If he gets that.
- 44:21Speaker 6: Yeah, But I'm not. I'm not locking individual games. I'm
- 44:25Speaker 6: just locking the big pictures.
- 44:26Speaker 2: And he's not locking road games because he doesn't lock
- 44:29Speaker 2: road games.
- 44:30Speaker 5: Don't road games. But I'm locking. I had locked the
- 44:33Speaker 5: damn playoffs.
- 44:34Speaker 6: Okay, it's the playoffs.
- 44:40Speaker 2: It's not even Thanksgiving, and Pete has locked the door
- 44:43Speaker 2: on the Jags going.
- 44:44Speaker 5: To the play playoff tickets.
- 44:46Speaker 4: Okay, Wow, I got to consult with my financial advisor
- 44:52Speaker 4: before before I make that decision. I thought, we're just
- 44:55Speaker 4: going by a game, my game basis I got.
- 44:57Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I look at the schedule, I look
- 44:59Speaker 6: at the team, I look at where they are, look
- 45:01Speaker 6: at the rest of the ANFC.
- 45:02Speaker 5: Lock the damn playoffs, okay, and it and and there's
- 45:06Speaker 5: a legitimate chance for them to win the division.
- 45:09Speaker 2: M all right, Okay, playoff lock.
- 45:13Speaker 3: Here days before Thanksgiving, I.
- 45:15Speaker 4: Mean here, I thought, I'm gon, I'm gonna lock the
- 45:16Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans game, and we're gonna be going and like
- 45:19Speaker 4: it's a dud now like Pete's bringing like these these
- 45:22Speaker 4: giant Roman candles in and I have snakes and sparklers
- 45:25Speaker 4: for the Titans.
- 45:26Speaker 3: Cool, awesome, I just got I just got upstats. You
- 45:32Speaker 3: get a one up, and then you know what super Bowl?
- 45:35Speaker 6: The Division one?
- 45:39Speaker 3: Come on, you can double.
- 45:42Speaker 5: I don't think anybody would lock that one.
- 45:48Speaker 3: I gotta be on the kids.
- 45:49Speaker 4: If I lock that and it happens, I better get
- 45:52Speaker 4: the first ticket to the Kismet shot.
- 45:55Speaker 6: Right, you'd be you actually might be the forget about
- 45:59Speaker 6: eb P, you might be there the big dog.
- 46:02Speaker 4: Oh I'm with I'm with the Jaguars, n a W
- 46:05Speaker 4: I'm I'm a conglamorate.
- 46:07Speaker 5: Think about how many, how many little soft hoodies you'd
- 46:10Speaker 5: be getting it.
- 46:14Speaker 3: Four seasons to four seasons.
- 46:17Speaker 5: Did you see Liam Cohen's speech.
- 46:19Speaker 6: The hoodie was in the back over there, Lulu Lemon
- 46:22Speaker 6: hoodies happened.
- 46:25Speaker 5: In his Lulu Lemon hoodie.
- 46:27Speaker 4: Happened to be over his shoulder in the shot. Somehow
- 46:30Speaker 4: funny how that works.
- 46:31Speaker 5: And you saw what he was wearing the hoodie.
- 46:34Speaker 6: I'm telling you that has to be Look, the fans
- 46:37Speaker 6: of Jacksonville have kind of wanted something like that for
- 46:40Speaker 6: their own.
- 46:41Speaker 5: They have it now, the Lulu Lemon hoodie. It's yours
- 46:46Speaker 5: and he's made it that. He's made it a thing
- 46:49Speaker 5: because James Gladstone had it. Tony wanted it, got it.
- 46:54Speaker 5: Now where is it? And it is a thing?
- 46:56Speaker 4: Pete, wait're rocking, man, we're rocking the for the trifecta.
- 47:03Speaker 4: Going back to the hurl by the way, squint one two,
- 47:06Speaker 4: here we come again.
- 47:07Speaker 6: We would wear those Lulu Lemon ones, but we would
- 47:12Speaker 6: only do that you Austin needed to wear them. I
- 47:15Speaker 6: can't wear them, but Austin could wear them. I think
- 47:17Speaker 6: Austin could wear that.
- 47:18Speaker 3: Let's come back.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Second hour is ahead, one hour down, one hour to go,
- 47:22Speaker 2: and this is jack War's Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Loans got real quick.
- 47:34Speaker 6: We're not get apologizing for a few wins around here.
- 47:42Speaker 5: How that's about resilience.
- 47:47Speaker 8: That's about staying the port and staying together and making plays.
- 47:53Speaker 5: When we need it moved.
- 47:54Speaker 9: How about our quarterback of Parker Watson.
- 47:56Speaker 3: Again, that's what.
- 48:07Speaker 6: What about?
- 48:08Speaker 5: Hey?
- 48:08Speaker 3: The guy just keeps coming up.
- 48:15Speaker 2: The Jaguars coach Liam Cohen in a winning locker room
- 48:20Speaker 2: in Arizona yesterday, not apologizing about wins around here and
- 48:25Speaker 2: welcome back. It is Hour two of Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 48:28Speaker 2: presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,
- 48:32Speaker 2: and during the game on ten to next Lamjaguars dot Com,
- 48:35Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube JP. Shatrick with you with the opening drive.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Now for Hour two presented by Target zero. Let's get
- 48:41Speaker 2: everyone home safely Jaguars. An overtime winner in Arizona yesterday,
- 48:46Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four. Another road win. Another West
- 48:50Speaker 2: Coast win for the Jaguars technically Mountain time zone, but
- 48:53Speaker 2: we'll count it three and zero out West this year.
- 48:55Speaker 2: This time they overcame four giveaways to knock off the Cardinals.
- 48:59Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence had a lost fumble that was returned for
- 49:01Speaker 2: a touchdown and three second half interceptions, but he also
- 49:05Speaker 2: threw three touchdown passes in the win. Skill players stepped up.
- 49:09Speaker 2: Parker Washington played big, Jacobe Myers had some key catches.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Brenton Strange with a career high ninety three yards and
- 49:16Speaker 2: his return from the injured reserve list. Jags defense huge
- 49:20Speaker 2: after those turnovers, getting off the field of some adverse moments,
- 49:24Speaker 2: as they have a lot of this season, and the
- 49:26Speaker 2: Jaguars have now won back to back games three of
- 49:28Speaker 2: four since the bye week. They's seven and four, second
- 49:31Speaker 2: in the AFC South, only one game back of the Colts,
- 49:34Speaker 2: and now the number six seed in the AFC playoff race.
- 49:38Speaker 2: Austin Lanen Studio with me at the Hyundai Studios, the
- 49:41Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center, Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Rider down
- 49:45Speaker 2: in South Florida, as we begain our number two of
- 49:48Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour, and that West Coast thing's done now, Pete.
- 49:52Speaker 5: It's fun. It's over.
- 49:53Speaker 6: They just threw that to the side out helped you
- 49:56Speaker 6: play two bad teams over there. Oh man, but but okay, okay,
- 50:01Speaker 6: what if they had gone to play the Rams and
- 50:03Speaker 6: the Seahawks, would this West Coast thing still be a thing?
- 50:05Speaker 3: It's a good quote, man, I guess that's the point.
- 50:09Speaker 6: Here's the thing about the kickers got himself right again.
- 50:15Speaker 6: I mean that that was a big time kick because
- 50:17Speaker 6: if you don't make that kick, oh yeah, you're giving
- 50:20Speaker 6: them the you're giving him the ball in point blank range.
- 50:23Speaker 5: Basically you go get the game winning field goal. He
- 50:25Speaker 5: had to have that kick. That's a big.
- 50:28Speaker 3: Kick in the game.
- 50:30Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty two right, Yeah.
- 50:32Speaker 2: His second fifty two yarder of the game.
- 50:34Speaker 6: Yeah, those are like fifty two yarders back in the
- 50:37Speaker 6: day used to be long kicks.
- 50:38Speaker 5: And now I was like, ho, hom fifty two yarder.
- 50:41Speaker 2: It was somebody who was sixty three yarder yesterday in
- 50:43Speaker 2: the league. It's like, ah, no, big deal, yeah.
- 50:45Speaker 6: Which is why it goes back to our theory on
- 50:48Speaker 6: why you kicked your field goal to make it six.
- 50:50Speaker 4: Points, no, without a doubt, because like then to e Coopete,
- 50:53Speaker 4: like back in the day, I remember even like when
- 50:55Speaker 4: I played a fifty yarder, was like, hey, grab the
- 50:58Speaker 4: kids and grab the family. You guys got to see this.
- 51:00Speaker 4: And now it's like, don't even get up what you're doing.
- 51:02Speaker 4: It's fifty utter. It's not a big deal. It's it's wild.
- 51:04Speaker 4: But I'll say this much man, that's I love the access.
- 51:08Speaker 4: I I love the energy especially, and I don't have
- 51:12Speaker 4: this can across the wrong way, but there's a lot
- 51:13Speaker 4: of offensive minded guys out there that I feel like
- 51:16Speaker 4: can't bring energy right. Like I always felt like the
- 51:19Speaker 4: energy and and the locker room was more of like
- 51:22Speaker 4: a defensive oriented guy because it's based off more of
- 51:24Speaker 4: just great and toughness.
- 51:26Speaker 3: You're calling them a bunch of nerds. There we go, Yeah, I.
- 51:29Speaker 5: Mean he's not wrong.
- 51:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you said it.
- 51:32Speaker 4: But but but you see in that situation there and
- 51:35Speaker 4: shout out to the producer because you're the real me
- 51:37Speaker 4: for editing out all the language and.
- 51:39Speaker 3: What he said was bleeped out. I couldn't tell. I
- 51:42Speaker 3: think we have a good idea. You can do your
- 51:45Speaker 3: research as.
- 51:47Speaker 6: When whenever the hoodie was smiling in the back, you
- 51:50Speaker 6: could figure it out.
- 51:51Speaker 4: But it's but it's really cool when it's really refreshing
- 51:54Speaker 4: because I feel, I mean, Sean McVay fits in this
- 51:56Speaker 4: mold as well.
- 51:56Speaker 3: But you don't see a lot of offensive minded guys.
- 51:59Speaker 4: I can bring that type of energy and it's genuine
- 52:02Speaker 4: and obviously it's a genuine from Liam Cohen's an.
- 52:06Speaker 5: There's an edge to him.
- 52:07Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a definite edge to him and I think
- 52:10Speaker 6: his players respect him for that.
- 52:12Speaker 5: And again, that was a challenging week.
- 52:15Speaker 6: You come off a big victory and you go play
- 52:17Speaker 6: a team you're supposed to beat out on the road
- 52:20Speaker 6: and you're opening drive, you go boom, boom boom, boom
- 52:22Speaker 6: boom right down the field.
- 52:23Speaker 5: I mean that that tells me.
- 52:25Speaker 6: That they were ready to play, and that's that's a
- 52:27Speaker 6: sign of a good football coach.
- 52:30Speaker 2: Great to see it, Love to see it.
- 52:33Speaker 8: Uh.
- 52:33Speaker 4: I asked co pilot again about you ready for this?
- 52:37Speaker 4: All we asked about the yeah, decision to kick it?
- 52:40Speaker 2: Why did Liam Cohen go forward on fourth down on
- 52:42Speaker 2: the fourth quarter yesterday against the Cardinals?
- 52:43Speaker 3: I asked it. Here we go, Okay, here's what it said.
- 52:46Speaker 2: The quick answer, Liam Cohen went forward on fourth down
- 52:49Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter against the Cardinals because he wanted
- 52:51Speaker 2: to stay aggressive, trust his offense.
- 52:52Speaker 3: And avoid giving the ball back an entight game.
- 52:54Speaker 2: The decision was risky and nearly backfired, but it reflected
- 52:57Speaker 2: his philosophy of.
- 52:58Speaker 3: Playing to win rather than say for conservative calls.
- 53:02Speaker 4: That's done by Dan Campbell? Does does Dan Campbell have stocking?
- 53:06Speaker 3: Co pilot? Is that what this is?
- 53:09Speaker 6: I bet if you ask co Pilot why did Dan
- 53:12Speaker 6: Campbell go for it in the fourth quarter? Even if
- 53:14Speaker 6: he didn't exact same answer, I bet you go ahead
- 53:18Speaker 6: say it as the same question.
- 53:20Speaker 5: Four guarantee it's the exact same answer. And there's the
- 53:22Speaker 5: flaw in that co go for.
- 53:25Speaker 3: It on fourth down in the fourth it's gonna be
- 53:30Speaker 3: the exact same.
- 53:32Speaker 4: Well I was gonna say, isn't this a sponsored thing? Yeah,
- 53:35Speaker 4: we're gonna get Encyclopedia's pretty soon back up in here
- 53:37Speaker 4: instead of this thing.
- 53:38Speaker 2: You know, Dan Campbell went forward on fourth down on
- 53:40Speaker 2: the fourth quarter because he embraces an aggressive coaching philosophy,
- 53:43Speaker 2: prioritizing trust in his players and the chance to secure
- 53:46Speaker 2: control of the game rather than settling for safer options
- 53:48Speaker 2: like field goals.
- 53:51Speaker 3: It's similar a little bit, it's different.
- 53:54Speaker 5: It's similar.
- 53:56Speaker 6: Look, look it was he got away with the decision,
- 54:00Speaker 6: but he won the game. But you got to go
- 54:02Speaker 6: back and re evaluate that if you're a coach and
- 54:04Speaker 6: say did I make the right decision or did I not?
- 54:07Speaker 2: But Austin to your point earlier, I mean, that's the
- 54:09Speaker 2: decision he's made earlier this season already, and he's consistent,
- 54:13Speaker 2: like you know, that's gonna be him.
- 54:15Speaker 3: It feels like because that it might have lost the
- 54:17Speaker 3: game in Cincinnati.
- 54:21Speaker 5: Yeah. But again, and I go back to you mentioned
- 54:25Speaker 5: Dan Campbell.
- 54:26Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned that because early in his process
- 54:29Speaker 6: he had to be that way.
- 54:30Speaker 5: Because his team won very good.
- 54:32Speaker 6: But once your team gets good, you don't necessarily have
- 54:35Speaker 6: to be that same way anymore.
- 54:36Speaker 3: So why is it bad for the Jags to try?
- 54:39Speaker 6: Well, they're in a playoff phrase right now, okay, different.
- 54:43Speaker 5: Their playoff team. That's how I forget. I already guaranteed
- 54:46Speaker 5: get your ticket.
- 54:47Speaker 2: You locked it an hour or one if you just
- 54:49Speaker 2: joined us. Pete locked a playoff berth for the Jaguars
- 54:52Speaker 2: before I.
- 54:55Speaker 5: Did, before Thanksgiving. They will be in the playoffs.
- 54:58Speaker 4: Well, and ask you guys this real quick, because I'm
- 55:01Speaker 4: under the impression that if you're a playoff calber type
- 55:04Speaker 4: of team, you're supposed to beat the teams handedly that
- 55:08Speaker 4: are supposed to be beat and like, and I get
- 55:10Speaker 4: the Cardinals are gritty and everything, but you look at
- 55:12Speaker 4: that roster like they didn't really scare you, and you
- 55:14Speaker 4: know it goes to overtime. If you go back to
- 55:17Speaker 4: that Raiders game, you're supposed to handle them. I feel like,
- 55:19Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they had great players, Brock Bauers, Max Crosby,
- 55:22Speaker 4: but like, I feel like you're supposed to probably handle
- 55:24Speaker 4: that game as well. You got the Jets, you got
- 55:26Speaker 4: the Titans, coming up, teams that obviously the record reflects
- 55:29Speaker 4: what type of team they are.
- 55:31Speaker 3: Do we need to see.
- 55:33Speaker 4: This team win by more than you know, a field
- 55:36Speaker 4: goal or more than an overtime victory? Like, do we
- 55:39Speaker 4: need to see a ten point victory here against the Titans, against.
- 55:43Speaker 6: Against against the Chargers team?
- 55:46Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 55:46Speaker 3: But like I think you've even playing down. I think
- 55:48Speaker 3: that was them getting up and saying, you.
- 55:49Speaker 4: Know what, playing down at teams that you're supposed to beat,
- 55:53Speaker 4: like that Cardinals.
- 55:55Speaker 6: That Cardinals team in Indianapolis should have won on the
- 55:59Speaker 6: road or earlier this season.
- 56:01Speaker 5: I mean, with with Jakobe said, is the quarterback and
- 56:04Speaker 5: the Titans?
- 56:05Speaker 3: So what are we really saying?
- 56:06Speaker 5: Though? Yeah?
- 56:08Speaker 6: I mean I think the league is so wide open
- 56:11Speaker 6: this year, Austin that the days of great teams, supposedly
- 56:16Speaker 6: great teams blowing out teams that aren't that good consistently aren't.
- 56:20Speaker 6: It's not happening this year. I mean, look at look
- 56:23Speaker 6: at the Lions yesterday. They played the Giants, right, bad
- 56:27Speaker 6: team at home, you're back home in your building, and.
- 56:30Speaker 5: They got pushed to the fourth quarter in overtime. I mean,
- 56:35Speaker 5: it's just they.
- 56:36Speaker 6: Just teams are playing because there's not that much difference
- 56:39Speaker 6: between the great teams and the bad teams anymore.
- 56:41Speaker 4: There just isn't Austin you try to unpress the AP
- 56:44Speaker 4: voters or something like, what's going on? I mean, what
- 56:48Speaker 4: are you trying to do? So, Pete, obviously as the
- 56:54Speaker 4: Jaguars going to, you know, to the playoffs, I think
- 56:57Speaker 4: a team you have to go through at least once
- 56:59Speaker 4: is Innapolis cult. I think if you look at the
- 57:01Speaker 4: Colts right now in terms of their wins against teams
- 57:04Speaker 4: that they're supposed to beat, I feel like the Colts
- 57:06Speaker 4: have dominated all those teams.
- 57:07Speaker 3: I think it's the Cardinals.
- 57:09Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I guess not the Cardinals, but every
- 57:12Speaker 4: other game I feel like it was kind of a
- 57:15Speaker 4: curb stomping.
- 57:16Speaker 3: Now, maybe I'm wrong.
- 57:16Speaker 4: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
- 57:18Speaker 4: from what I remember about the Colts, I feel like
- 57:20Speaker 4: the games against the Titans and everything, and those games
- 57:24Speaker 4: they leave no doubt of who the better team.
- 57:26Speaker 5: Is, and Jacksonville's left out in games against bad teams.
- 57:32Speaker 4: They have, you know, stomping teams right now. The l
- 57:35Speaker 4: A Rams are stomping teams right now.
- 57:37Speaker 5: Yeah they are, they are.
- 57:40Speaker 6: I mean, but okay, let's look at this though, the
- 57:42Speaker 6: best the best team with the best record in the
- 57:44Speaker 6: AFC is the New England Patriots.
- 57:47Speaker 3: Right Patriots?
- 57:48Speaker 5: Okay, who did they lose to an opening week Raiders? Yeah?
- 57:53Speaker 3: I think right? Is that they?
- 57:54Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, so, it's it's such a hard league,
- 57:58Speaker 6: the gauge.
- 58:00Speaker 5: It's it's just so. I mean, Buffalo went to Miami
- 58:03Speaker 5: after beating the Chiefs and lost to the Dollars.
- 58:06Speaker 3: It's true.
- 58:07Speaker 5: It's just this year it's so wide open. The whole
- 58:10Speaker 5: league is wide open. The playoffs are wide open. It's
- 58:14Speaker 5: just incredible. Team gets hot, they got a chance.
- 58:20Speaker 3: M Austin.
- 58:22Speaker 2: You've got them ranked twelfth or thirteenth in your poll
- 58:25Speaker 2: in the NFL.
- 58:26Speaker 5: Where are you with the gym.
- 58:31Speaker 4: Like a you know, like a first round by yet
- 58:34Speaker 4: or anything like that in the and in the first four.
- 58:36Speaker 5: But did you start calling s I ds to try
- 58:38Speaker 5: and get stay no.
- 58:40Speaker 2: First place votes from you?
- 58:42Speaker 3: No, of course, I can't quite go it there yet.
- 58:45Speaker 6: Remember when you just had the coaches full, the s
- 58:46Speaker 6: I d is actually voted all for the coaches full.
- 58:49Speaker 5: You got to call them and get some favors.
- 58:51Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's funny how that works. And now they
- 58:54Speaker 2: do it by committee. Pete, that's exciting. Do you get
- 58:57Speaker 2: part of the committee the playoff committees? Like what fifteen
- 59:00Speaker 2: people got? It's like ads and administrators and.
- 59:05Speaker 5: All in some former player I think or or something
- 59:08Speaker 5: that it's a bad system.
- 59:12Speaker 6: This is why the NFL is the king. You play
- 59:14Speaker 6: it to win it. There's no voting, nobody needs to vote.
- 59:18Speaker 3: And strength of victory what is that. You go win,
- 59:21Speaker 3: you win the game, quality wins.
- 59:24Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's in a better conference and so he'll
- 59:26Speaker 6: get in and he won't. And it's just look in
- 59:29Speaker 6: the in the NFL, you win to get in. It's
- 59:32Speaker 6: basically what it is. So you can win your division
- 59:35Speaker 6: and get in and have a worse record, but that's
- 59:39Speaker 6: the way it's struck.
- 59:39Speaker 5: That's the structure of the league. That's the way you
- 59:41Speaker 5: still got to win to get.
- 59:42Speaker 3: In, right.
- 59:43Speaker 2: Everybody was complaining last year with the Lions and that, like,
- 59:46Speaker 2: go win if you if you lose, you have a
- 59:49Speaker 2: chance of not being the champ.
- 59:51Speaker 4: I mean, I will say one thing, and it's definitely
- 59:53Speaker 4: an anomaly, but I do feel like if you win
- 59:55Speaker 4: your division with a losing record, you should not be
- 59:57Speaker 4: able to host a home game.
- 59:58Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but see, I always just a divisions.
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: It comes around, it goes around, comes There's always going
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: to be a year where that happens in one division
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: and maybe in another.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: It was the UNFC West, remember the Seahawks.
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: Yeah sure, but.
- 1:00:14Speaker 5: The Saints did the Saints do it one year or two.
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: But I'm not for rewarding losing like you're you're essentially saying, hey,
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: you guys.
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: Wanton, enjoy a home game, Well then one stuff your
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: game from the division.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: They won the division with a losing record, so they
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: won the division.
- 1:00:33Speaker 5: But but then basically you're saying the divisions don't matter.
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: That I'm saying that if you have a losing record
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: your division, then guess what your division that does not
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: matter that year and the wild card team gets to
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: host it. I'm not going to reward a team for
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: losing more games than they won. Like, that's not what
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: sports should be.
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, I think you got to
- 1:00:51Speaker 6: keep if you're going to keep the division, you got.
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: To participation ribbons, everything. That's cool.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just like the power rankings are so
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: important to tell you.
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: Right, they're not. They're not important.
- 1:01:00Speaker 6: And for twenty five years, and more people get upset
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: about those things than anything I do.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: I can't wait for Austin's power rankings to come out next.
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: He's gonna call the s I D.
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: Sound is looking good, though, Are they more?
- 1:01:17Speaker 9: Not?
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: We see that might say yeah, you're going to them
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: up a little more.
- 1:01:24Speaker 6: I mean, the Colts and Jaguars would be in, so
- 1:01:27Speaker 6: you'd have two and the Texans are pushing it.
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: But you know they're gonna start those.
- 1:01:31Speaker 6: The Texans play the Colts twice, the Jaguars play the
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: Colts twice.
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: The Texans schedule is brutal. They eat each other alive.
- 1:01:39Speaker 6: I still think the final spot is going to come
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: down to the Chargers and the Chiefs and whoever wins
- 1:01:44Speaker 6: that game when they meet, that's what it's going to be.
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: Love that.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: We're gonna keep it real.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: We we faked it there with Austin with the A P.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: Pole business, so we're gonna.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Come down this all bit and my locking that it
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: was all a bit.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: We're gonna figure out how to find explosive plays on
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: offense when we come back. Mister Chubby's wings before the game,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: after the game and during the game, and this is
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.
- 1:02:22Speaker 9: I gotta be smart with the ball. Obviously had four
- 1:02:24Speaker 9: turnovers and they were all on me, So I own that,
- 1:02:27Speaker 9: and I gotta do my job and take care of
- 1:02:28Speaker 9: the ball and not put our defense in tough spots.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: Totally get that.
- 1:02:31Speaker 9: But I'm never gonna, never gonna play scared, and I'm
- 1:02:34Speaker 9: gonna continue to let it rip. And I think that's
- 1:02:35Speaker 9: why you know we we have a chance at the
- 1:02:37Speaker 9: end of the day, is because you keep playing. So
- 1:02:40Speaker 9: never gonna apologize for that, but I will say I
- 1:02:42Speaker 9: cannot turn the ball over before time, So I own that,
- 1:02:44Speaker 9: and no, I gotta clean that up.
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: But I'll watch it and see what it was.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence after the game yesterday, Jaguars quarterback in a
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: winning result. The result matters overtime win twenty seven twenty four.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: Jaguars now seven and four and heading into Thanksgiving week,
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: they'll visit the Titans coming up on Sunday. It's Jaguars
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Happy Hours at Tonight's lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP, Shadwrick,
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: Coston Lane, Pete Prisco in time for keeping it real.
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: Still available for the holidays.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: And they start on Thursday, and available for the playoffs too,
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: apparently playoffs playoffs, So yeah.
- 1:03:25Speaker 6: See, people are gonna miss the boat when the playoffs
- 1:03:27Speaker 6: are going on and everybody's the town's going crazy and
- 1:03:31Speaker 6: you're not sponsoring that segment, you'll.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: Miss out and you've locked it, so it's gonna happen.
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: Of course I wouldn't locked it.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: We desarved from the quarterback.
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: I won't lock road games exactly.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: You're not gonna lock the game in Tennessee this week.
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: No, why because the NFL is so weird it is.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: It is, uh, keeping it real, we serve from the quarterback.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: And hey, the Jaguars have not had many explosive plays
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: in the passing game this year, really none. I mean
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: I can't even remember when launch down the field caught
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: deep ballity. I tried a few, But how do they
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: find those plays in the passing game coming up? Can
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: they keep it going without true deep threats on the field.
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Thomas hasn't been out there for two weeks,
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: and is it sustainable to keep producing on offense without
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: the deep threat?
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: That's a lot.
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you see that second half Arizona comes out,
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: they were stacking the box like Buddha Baker essentially in
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, saying, all right, either it's gonna
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: be short intermediate passes or it's gonna be the run.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: But if you want to beat us deep, good luck.
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: We haven't seen it yet, and they kind of put
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: the Jaguars all in there. I would assume when Brian
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: Thomas Junior comes back, now that Jacoby Myers has kind
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: of taken his spot of being that trustworthy down the
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: middle type of dude, you're gonna need someone on the
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: outside to run that go route, and I think Brian
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: Thomas Junior is more than capable of it. And it's
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: not even necessarily like throwing it down deep, you know,
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: five six times a game. It's just the thread of
- 1:05:02Speaker 4: it because right now teams aren't even threatened by your
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: ability to go deep. So hopefully Brian town Was Junior
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: gets back healthy in time for Tennessee and then they
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: can utilize him in that capacity.
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: Is he supposed to be back JP, It looks like
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: he was close last week.
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he was close to the
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: last two weeks.
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: Well, if he's back, and I'm with Austin. He needs
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: to go That's what he does, that's who he is.
- 1:05:26Speaker 5: We know he doesn't like going over the middle. And
- 1:05:28Speaker 5: so now you've got a guy who can go over
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: the middle.
- 1:05:30Speaker 6: Two of them actually, because Parker Washington can go over
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: the middle as well. Then get him down the field
- 1:05:34Speaker 6: and take take some shots and take them all. There
- 1:05:38Speaker 6: was a play Sunday where I don't know if you
- 1:05:41Speaker 6: remember this one Austin, where they blitzed Trevor Lawrence and
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: he couldn't get to it.
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: But Breton Strange was wide over with his hand up.
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: He throws so to the back, right, he throws the
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: back in the back, gets tackled through.
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: It doesn't even happen. Yeah, yeah, stranger.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: See you see Strange. He's by himself. It would have
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: been a touchdown.
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's got his hand up and he can't.
- 1:06:02Speaker 6: And I'm gonna defend Trevor a little bit on that.
- 1:06:04Speaker 6: Because the blitz wasn't picked up, he couldn't get to
- 1:06:07Speaker 6: that throw. There's no way he could have made that throw.
- 1:06:10Speaker 6: So he just took what was available because of the blitz.
- 1:06:12Speaker 6: And on the on the you know, the sack, fumble, turnover, touchdown.
- 1:06:18Speaker 6: That that's got to be blocked better. That's not that's
- 1:06:21Speaker 6: that's not on Trevor. You can see that that's a
- 1:06:23Speaker 6: protection issue. And and I'm not sure who's I don't
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: think it was Strange. I'm not sure who was to
- 1:06:28Speaker 6: blame on that.
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: But that was a protection issue.
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: So here's and once again, I don't know the play call,
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: so it's hard to put the blame on somebody. It
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: looks like Strangers expecting the ball to go out a
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: lot quicker. Yeah, because he if this was a long
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: developing play, I feel like Strange would probably would have
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: stayed in and chipped him a little more. But to me,
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: it was just like he pushes him, he gets the release,
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, Strange thought that I was
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: going to be a quick, you know, a three step
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: and just fire. Trevor made it seem like it was
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: going to be a longer play when he rolled out.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: Like he did, so like Strange thought the ball was
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: coming to handle. He's look, they're just well, once again,
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: I'm not sure this is on Strange.
- 1:07:07Speaker 5: No, I don't think it's on Strange.
- 1:07:08Speaker 6: I think they might have needed to slide that protection
- 1:07:11Speaker 6: the other way, and I mean it's toward that and
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: if you.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: Look at it, I think but here's the other part
- 1:07:16Speaker 5: of that. If he throws the ball he's trying to
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: throw that might have been picked.
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: Did you see it?
- 1:07:22Speaker 5: Did you watch the twenty two? Yeah, and open and
- 1:07:25Speaker 5: he's trying to throw that deep out he's not open,
- 1:07:28Speaker 5: whereas if and when you watch that, did you watch.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: The twenty two Austin, Yeah, I saw it. Twenty two? Yes, yeah?
- 1:07:35Speaker 5: What on that play? He probably it was third and
- 1:07:37Speaker 5: five if I'm not mistaken, or third and six. I
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: think it was.
- 1:07:42Speaker 6: He's got Myers for about seven yards on the little
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: curl inside. I think you can almost see it on
- 1:07:49Speaker 6: the play when we watch it again, and he doesn't
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: even look at him right there there he is.
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: But see, this is why, and this is why I
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: thought it was going to be like a quick play,
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: right because Strange is blocking there you had Myers and
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: like that that you know, the curl router. We want
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: to call it like it's a bang bang play. And
- 1:08:07Speaker 4: it seems like Trevor tried to extend it a little more.
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: I don't know, but once again, I mean, he had
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: much than the guy's in the backfield in two seconds.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, that was We're talking about receivers
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: and possibilities down the field. Where's the Tommy Brown four
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: plays yesterday on offense?
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: So that's that that experiment is ova.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah.
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: I think it goes to show you that if you're
- 1:08:32Speaker 4: not willing in the run game to block and be physical,
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: doesn't matter how much you're getting paid. If you can't
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: do your job, they don't you know, they don't care
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: how much money they're giving you, Like they'll bring up
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: somebody that's more hungry. And I feel like, right now
- 1:08:46Speaker 4: that's happening.
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: And they mademit their mistakes.
- 1:08:48Speaker 6: I give them a lot of credit for that because
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: they cut one already, They traded Tyson Campbell, they they
- 1:08:54Speaker 6: sat down Newsome.
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: I mean, they admit their mistakes. So I think I
- 1:08:58Speaker 5: give at most teams don't do that.
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: You hold on to your mistakes and you play your
- 1:09:03Speaker 6: mistakes too long a lot of the time.
- 1:09:06Speaker 5: Uh So I'm with you, Austin.
- 1:09:07Speaker 6: I think they make They admitted their mistakes. And the
- 1:09:10Speaker 6: Ammi Brown right now is the one he signed a
- 1:09:13Speaker 6: one year contract.
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: He's a mistake.
- 1:09:14Speaker 6: He's not gonna be back next year. You talk about
- 1:09:16Speaker 6: a guy who you saw the one the long run
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: that Etn had. You saw who made the key.
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: Block on that play? Myers did.
- 1:09:24Speaker 6: Myers and Munt were the key blocks on that play.
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: And and you're right, you want your receivers the block
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: in this offense. So yeah, the Allmi Brown's that's done.
- 1:09:34Speaker 6: I mean, he's not gonna be here next year. You
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: can take that guarantee to the bank.
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: Beautiful run by the way, that this is still keeping
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: it real correct? Are It's? Yeah?
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: So if we're gonna keep this real real quick, I've
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: said it before on the show and I'll say it again,
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: are you gonna pay up for Travis Etn? Because I
- 1:09:52Speaker 4: think yesterday once again solidified that this is the best
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: thing you have going on your offense right now. And
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: and I understand that it's going to be too Allen
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: the young guy's going forward, But I thought Allen yesterday
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: and it wasn't a lot of reps, but there was
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: that one play where where where he tried to, you know,
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: step up in the blitzing lane, didn't do a great
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: job and got beat and also too and I thought
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: yesterday didn't have his best game either. Meanwhile, Etn I
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: think is still a pretty dependable one hundred and.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Sixteen scrimage yards and a touchdown yesterday, averaging ninety five
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: scrimage yards a game and four touchdowns since Week nine.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: So he's hot right now. Had the drop yesterday, but
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: I think he had the drop probably even gets more run.
- 1:10:32Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you tag, you tag him, that's what you do.
- 1:10:35Speaker 5: Put the franchise tag on.
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: Would we say it was fourteen?
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not too bad. It's one years. I mean
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: you can't, you can't.
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:10:42Speaker 5: I think you give up those long term deals of
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: running actually risking.
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: It, but you're paying.
- 1:10:47Speaker 5: He takes the four he took, he takes the fourteen.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: I mean I'm keeping him regardless JP.
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: Whether that's the franchise tag or the contract makes sense,
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: but I'm not letting that guy go. I think he's
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: the most consistent thing you have on your offense right now.
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: I think he's helping you win football games. And I
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: just feel like, whether it's on offense or defense, you
- 1:11:05Speaker 4: never let go of your best players. And I think
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: right now, on offense, he is your best player.
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: But you got to remember they have been on the
- 1:11:12Speaker 6: first round pick. They got a ton of needs other
- 1:11:15Speaker 6: than running back.
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: You know, they gotta They still have a lot of
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: problems on that team that are kind of getting masked.
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: A little bit.
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: I hear you.
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: I'll tell you this though, with Jakobe Myers beyond that team,
- 1:11:28Speaker 6: if Hunter was healthy and Thomas was playing well, they
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: probably wouldn't have made that trade. But I think that's
- 1:11:33Speaker 6: a trade that's gonna ultimately benefit them from the long term.
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: I really do.
- 1:11:37Speaker 6: I I think I think he's a pros pro. And
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: you watch him play, He plays hard, You watch him
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: run routes. He runs good routes. He knows how to
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: sit down in his zones, which a lot of those.
- 1:11:47Speaker 5: Guys don't know how to do. By the way, He's
- 1:11:50Speaker 5: just and now you got to keep him.
- 1:11:52Speaker 6: So now, if you have Brian Thomas, if he decides
- 1:11:54Speaker 6: he's gonna play this year and become something, you have
- 1:11:57Speaker 6: Travis Hunter when he comes back, who gives you a
- 1:11:59Speaker 6: little juice, And in terms of speed, yeah, Parker Washington,
- 1:12:02Speaker 6: who's pure one football player.
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: All of a sudden, that receiving group pretty good. If
- 1:12:08Speaker 5: and it's one big iff. If Brian Thomas can show
- 1:12:12Speaker 5: that last year was not a fluke. In the beginning
- 1:12:14Speaker 5: of this year was who's who's back? And he's the
- 1:12:17Speaker 5: guy who was a year ago?
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: Who's the odd man out of that group? Then, though,
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: assuming that you do bring back Myers, you got Myers,
- 1:12:23Speaker 4: Parker Washington, you got Travis Hunter, you got Brian Thomas Junior.
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: Who's the first guy's gonna be on the bench.
- 1:12:29Speaker 6: Well, I think Travis Hunter ended up becoming a spot
- 1:12:31Speaker 6: guy in that scenario and plays all starts at corner,
- 1:12:34Speaker 6: you know what I mean, He's a legitimate corner and
- 1:12:36Speaker 6: you put him in for twenty five plays on offense.
- 1:12:38Speaker 6: I think that's what that would be, okay, because I
- 1:12:42Speaker 6: think Myers is a pro I think he's a great
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: guy to have in your building.
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: I mean for him to look like what he's looked
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: like in two games and a pretty seems like complicated offense.
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is this is what this room
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: has been missing.
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: Though, Is that pro presence? I feel like, yeah, right,
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: of a bunch of young guys still trying to find
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: their way, I think Tim Patrick brings some of that too.
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: Undrafted guy as well, he doesn't have the juice that much.
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: The performance of the numbers and everything. Myers is going
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: to have a little bit more of that, I think.
- 1:13:12Speaker 5: But when it comes to around, you know how guys
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: respond to somebody who does it? You know what I mean?
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: You can be a leader and the guy that's a
- 1:13:19Speaker 6: pros pro, but if you're not put up any numbers,
- 1:13:21Speaker 6: they're like, look at the old guy over there, he's
- 1:13:23Speaker 6: just talking, smacking. And if you put them numbers and
- 1:13:27Speaker 6: you're talking it and telling them what to do, there's
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: more respect there. By the way, should have two touchdowns
- 1:13:32Speaker 6: because he beat the corner on the play that was
- 1:13:34Speaker 6: tipped by Kalais Campbell that was going to be a touchdown.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Yes, good play by Kalais. But yeah, but what what
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: kind of number do you think Myers would get on
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: the market if he gets free.
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be a monster number.
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: How old is he now?
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: I mean he's what, he's not a kid, he's twenty nine, twenty.
- 1:13:52Speaker 5: Nine, Yeah, he's not a kid.
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: You get a three year deal for you know, decent
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: price you're not gonna get he's not going to break
- 1:13:57Speaker 6: the bang.
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: Like right now, his contract's three for thirty three million.
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: That's probably what he's gonna if he hit the market,
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: but he become the free agent after this year.
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can see like thirteen million per year.
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: What I'm saying, like thirteen per year, yeah, thirty keep them.
- 1:14:15Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm keeping him.
- 1:14:16Speaker 6: I'm not letting him go. And they didn't trade to
- 1:14:19Speaker 6: not keep him, by the way, I think the idea
- 1:14:21Speaker 6: is to keep him.
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep it it real. That's about
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: as real as we can get. Tonight, we'll see what
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: he likes. Has got hardy first agent.
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: I've been hyping him up on this show more than
- 1:14:33Speaker 4: anybody who to traves etn Yeah, I'm trying to get
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: him a rye.
- 1:14:39Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: You're looking for a percentage.
- 1:14:41Speaker 5: They look across the table and you're saying, yeah, but
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: he's a running back.
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, back in a moment.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: Fan questions, Pete loves running backs. Pr Productions, the Southeast
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- 1:15:00Speaker 2: and learn more. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: Chubby's Wings.
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: I want to execute what my number is called.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: I want to make the plays that come to me.
- 1:15:15Speaker 5: I'm not reaching for anything. There was no I need
- 1:15:18Speaker 5: to do anything because I'm in Arizona or anything like that.
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: I just tried to keep my composure.
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: Heath did a great job, and I'm gonna help keep
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: me calm before the game and everything.
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: He's like, I've been there.
- 1:15:29Speaker 5: Amped out is not the way to go, bro.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: Let me. Let me just keep you calm and collected.
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: And I appreciate him for that.
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: Dennis Gardak, Jaguars linebacker, playing his former team yesterday for
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: the first time, finished with five tackles, a sacond and
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: a half tackle for the lost, four quarterback hits, and
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: a special teams tackle all so welcome back. It is
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: Jaguars happy hour. He was talking about Heath Farwell, they're
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: the special teams coordinator.
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: And what a day for the guard deck. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: what a day.
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: And that's one of the guys that that Stone brings
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: in in terms of intangibly. Rich Well, you saw it
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: yesterday and now I'm not gonna lie when Brissette went
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: to the sidelines and got hit like he got hit
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: and then you know, the players started rallying around a
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: little bit. My only thought was, where's Guardick And somebody
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: get get get eyes on Gardick please Cuz.
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: Like if it was gonna pop off, it was gonna
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: be courtesy of gardak.
- 1:16:19Speaker 5: Man in the middle of it. He rolling him over
- 1:16:22Speaker 5: there on the sideline. He was smack dab in the
- 1:16:24Speaker 5: middle of it.
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: You know, we always talk about football players. He's one.
- 1:16:31Speaker 6: He's a football player, A good, tough, physical football player.
- 1:16:34Speaker 5: Nothing flashy or gaudy about him.
- 1:16:37Speaker 6: Just a good, hard nosed football player. Every team needs
- 1:16:41Speaker 6: guys like that on their roster.
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: And I mean he's overcome two different knee injuries in
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: his career, and I mean one of those coming into
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: this season. So I mean he was a little slow
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: in training camp but found his way.
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: He's now getting into up the speed.
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think I think, yeah, you can tell that.
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: I mean, he's definitely like he reminds me of a throwback.
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: I mean the guys that I shared locker rooms with, right,
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: because nowadays it's more of like, you know, you got
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: the Instagram and like the Twitch and everything. I don't
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: see you know, him going like on on Twitch and
- 1:17:10Speaker 4: like streaming live like hey, you know, I'm at home
- 1:17:12Speaker 4: chilling like he.
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: Definitely wasn't gonna take debate for going back to Arizona questions.
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: Last week. I asked him in the locker room, Hey,
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: what are your feelings about going back? He's like.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: His answer was this, my wife asked me about my
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: feelings all the time. Yeah, that's all he said. Okay,
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: well we're going we'll redirect here. Well that's his personality
- 1:17:32Speaker 4: and secretly from Wyoming Rater, Montana. He's from one of
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: those somewhere upstates.
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: Yeah. See, they don't they don't have time for feelings there.
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: It's too cold.
- 1:17:40Speaker 5: Is that I don't have any more feelings for that
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: place because this place paid me. There's my feelings.
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: They gotcha. Yeah, the dollars say it all. It's time
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: now for fan questions. In the second Hour, presented by
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: Mister Chubby's Wings. We put the cat signal out on
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: acts earlier today. Here's the best we've come up with.
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: Pat Bortles Nation. Do you think the Jaguars where he
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: signed to Kobe Myers, Well, I think we just kind
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: of went through this a little bit. But it feels
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: like so far, so good in two weeks, unless there's
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: something just dramatic that happens, right, Yeah.
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: I mean unless it gives you a reason not to
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: sign them, like there's an altered caser or something which
- 1:18:17Speaker 4: I can't see. The guys are pros, pro man and
- 1:18:20Speaker 4: I think you got to keep guys like that, like
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: you want to talk about intangibly rich as James Gladston
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: always says that dude's got it in spades.
- 1:18:27Speaker 5: He will be back.
- 1:18:28Speaker 3: He will be back, no quest.
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: You don't trade those picks to bring him in and
- 1:18:31Speaker 5: not bring him back. He's coming back.
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: The son of a little Arnald Schwarzenegger is there. It
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: really did. He will be back. Oh yeah, he'll be bossed.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: Nice question at Jags, Fani, Why do they play a
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: lot of soft coverage on defense.
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: Because they don't run in the back end. They don't
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: have guys who can match up and play man to
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: man coverage. You just don't.
- 1:18:57Speaker 6: Mon Trek Brown, good football player, run very well. You know,
- 1:19:01Speaker 6: I don't know what Jones's time is. And on the
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: other side, I mean Braswell is.
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: Not a burner either.
- 1:19:08Speaker 6: And then you compound that with winger done run very
- 1:19:11Speaker 6: well and Antonio Johnson's fifty to fifty if he's going
- 1:19:15Speaker 6: to play the right spot in the defense got to
- 1:19:18Speaker 6: you gotta play zone.
- 1:19:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's more of a you know,
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: it's a bend, don't break mentality, which is fine. But
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: when you have that type of mentality, you talk about
- 1:19:27Speaker 4: keeping everything in front of you right, so you'll you'll
- 1:19:30Speaker 4: you'll give some not to get burning over the top.
- 1:19:32Speaker 4: So that's what the this defense is right now because
- 1:19:35Speaker 4: they realize what they have on that back end. And
- 1:19:37Speaker 4: you know, I think there's physical players in that back end,
- 1:19:40Speaker 4: but not necessarily the biggest burners speed guys.
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: I know. By the way, I think I think Jones
- 1:19:45Speaker 5: has played well the last couple of weeks. It's almost
- 1:19:48Speaker 5: like his confidence is back.
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: By the way, his forty times four point three eight
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: at the combine and Jones was yeah, Jarian Jones.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: Now that one though then he kind of he had
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: problems with that.
- 1:19:59Speaker 4: It wasn't all his fault because I think Dewey's got
- 1:20:01Speaker 4: to come down, but to Dort whatever they got the Yeah,
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: that one touchdown, then that was on Jerry and Jones,
- 1:20:08Speaker 4: but once again didn't have help with the safety like
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: they both could have did a little better.
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: Next question at show sixteen, t Why can't the offense
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: get plays off on time? Can't remember the last time
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: we had three timeouts going into the fourth quarter.
- 1:20:26Speaker 6: It's the mechanism of it has not been smooth, and
- 1:20:28Speaker 6: I think that has a lot to do with It's
- 1:20:30Speaker 6: a very very complicated offense, which.
- 1:20:33Speaker 5: Is why Trevor has the wristband now correct and so,
- 1:20:37Speaker 5: and I think that has a lot to do with it.
- 1:20:39Speaker 5: And that's another trend around the league, by the way,
- 1:20:42Speaker 5: that they're not alone with.
- 1:20:43Speaker 6: These teams are having a hard time getting their plays
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: in and getting to the line of scrimmage.
- 1:20:49Speaker 5: And I think a lot of it has to do
- 1:20:51Speaker 5: when they do.
- 1:20:51Speaker 6: Get to the line of scrimmage, the play clock's going down,
- 1:20:54Speaker 6: and they don't they try and check out us something
- 1:20:57Speaker 6: and then they realize, oh, I got no time on
- 1:20:59Speaker 6: the play clock. Doesn't that take a time out? And
- 1:21:01Speaker 6: that's where we're at this lead right now, because the
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: defense is throw so many different looks at you right now.
- 1:21:06Speaker 6: And I still think defenses are dictating to offenses rather
- 1:21:09Speaker 6: than the other way around.
- 1:21:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
- 1:21:13Speaker 5: I mean, would have problems with your play clock if
- 1:21:18Speaker 5: you just want no huddle. I don't think so.
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: I don't think so either. Yeah, I mean it's gotten better.
- 1:21:23Speaker 4: But I did sit in that game in the second
- 1:21:26Speaker 4: half yesterday thinking like, Okay, if this gets close to
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: the wire, you know those timeouts, will that come back
- 1:21:32Speaker 4: to bite you? Because right now, I mean, we haven't
- 1:21:34Speaker 4: talked about it too much, but if it does come,
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: it happens in that one game, then it'll obviously be
- 1:21:39Speaker 4: blown up and everything. So I would I would err
- 1:21:41Speaker 4: on the side of let's get it cleaned up now,
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: so when you don't have to rely on those timeouts,
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: it doesn't come back to bite you.
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: We'll get one more in off script here at fit
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: jag Chick, asking who's your MVP and your most improved
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: player from the team so far?
- 1:21:58Speaker 5: That's a good question. Good, Well, the most improved player
- 1:22:01Speaker 5: is Devin Lloyd.
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a given.
- 1:22:04Speaker 5: That's see, that's easy. I mean, he was awful last
- 1:22:06Speaker 5: year and now he's pretty good, so I think he's
- 1:22:09Speaker 5: the most improved.
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: With the m v P is tough. My MVP is Travistn.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: It's been good. Yeah, don't pay him no, probably.
- 1:22:18Speaker 5: Has to be. Probably, he probably has to be the
- 1:22:20Speaker 5: m v P.
- 1:22:21Speaker 4: I mean, who else It can't be anybody else Washington's
- 1:22:23Speaker 4: two punt return touchdowns.
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: Maybe he plays on offense.
- 1:22:31Speaker 5: He can't be It can't be the usual saus it
- 1:22:33Speaker 5: can't be the quarterback. It's not Brian Thomas, it's not
- 1:22:36Speaker 5: Travis Hunter.
- 1:22:36Speaker 6: Before the season, you would have you would have picked
- 1:22:38Speaker 6: all three of those one, two, and three and some order,
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: and they're not right.
- 1:22:42Speaker 5: I mean, is there anybody on defense?
- 1:22:44Speaker 3: No, you can say Devin you.
- 1:22:48Speaker 5: Know, yeah, but but no, it's it's probably atn.
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: Wow. There you go.
- 1:22:56Speaker 5: It goes back to my theory on what do they
- 1:22:57Speaker 5: do really well? Though?
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: Right, there's nothing. You can't really pinpoint one.
- 1:23:02Speaker 5: Like every other team in the league, you could go, Okay,
- 1:23:04Speaker 5: who's the m v P of this team or who's
- 1:23:08Speaker 5: the m VP of that team?
- 1:23:09Speaker 6: You pick, you could find somebody, you know, it's the
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: MVP the Browns stake, But who's the m v P
- 1:23:13Speaker 6: of the Browns?
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: You know you can you can find m vps on
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: every team. It's hard to find one on that team.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: What do you got for the Titans? Mm hmm Simmons,
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: But he hasn't you know what I mean, he's been.
- 1:23:26Speaker 5: When he's on the field, he's their MVP. He just
- 1:23:28Speaker 5: hasn't played all enough.
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: See, I don't think they have an MVP either, I
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: mean certainly not at all.
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: Also have one win.
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: Yeah, but see this is why I like and and
- 1:23:36Speaker 4: once again, it's gonna go on court right now. Then
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: I'll be locking it in. Oh yeah, I'll be locking
- 1:23:44Speaker 4: this hit the music absolutely yeah, simply because here's how
- 1:23:49Speaker 4: I look at it. You go to Arizona, you have
- 1:23:51Speaker 4: four turnovers, and you find a way to win the game.
- 1:23:54Speaker 4: I don't see you having four turnovers against Tennessee. And
- 1:23:58Speaker 4: if you want to look at Arizona and say, hey,
- 1:23:59Speaker 4: how can air On to beat you? Well, Jacob Brissett,
- 1:24:01Speaker 4: you know, has been playing a pretty high level. Well,
- 1:24:03Speaker 4: they got a pretty good tight end. Well, Wilson's super underrated. Like,
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: there's ways that you could have saw that Arizona could
- 1:24:09Speaker 4: have beat the Jacksonville Jaguars came close but didn't do it.
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: I can't see a way how Tennessee can beat the Jaguars.
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: I really don't. I think their offensive line is just okay,
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: getting up the most sacks in the NFL. So I
- 1:24:22Speaker 4: think josh Ain's down. If Javon Walker comes back with
- 1:24:24Speaker 4: whoever else Gard Deck could could have a field day.
- 1:24:27Speaker 3: I just don't see the Titans beating this team. I
- 1:24:30Speaker 3: love that. Lock it in, yep, lock it in.
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: Ye.
- 1:24:34Speaker 6: Well if you're if you're locking that, and you almost
- 1:24:36Speaker 6: are going to lock the playoffs too, because that gives
- 1:24:37Speaker 6: him the eighth.
- 1:24:39Speaker 3: I'll be taking it one one game at a time.
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: Okay, okay, coach.
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: Let me, let me, let me this is the most
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: important lock right now in the season, and then talk
- 1:24:48Speaker 4: to me next week.
- 1:24:49Speaker 3: The most importing lock in franchise history is the next one. Yeah,
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: have it.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: The fan questions are in. Thank you for the submissions today.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: Thank you for the answers today.
- 1:25:03Speaker 3: Gentlemen, I say that every week.
- 1:25:07Speaker 5: Did he say it again last week? But he did.
- 1:25:09Speaker 3: He certainly did, And he kind of called you out
- 1:25:11Speaker 3: a little bit, Bete on the show.
- 1:25:12Speaker 5: Yeah, I talked to him. He did, got mad at
- 1:25:15Speaker 5: He got mad at me for he goes. I heard
- 1:25:17Speaker 5: you were killing me on the show, and I go,
- 1:25:19Speaker 5: of course, I was, that.
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: Doesn't really sound like him. That wasn't your best impression.
- 1:25:25Speaker 5: No, but that's his attitude, you know, the attitude. Don't
- 1:25:29Speaker 5: go do the impression. Go ahead, give me the impression.
- 1:25:31Speaker 5: Who Tony Tony impression.
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: Come on, Pete's stupid.
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: Don't be stupid, Bete.
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: That's closer.
- 1:25:46Speaker 5: I like it. That's Close's Pete.
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Idiot? Learned to gay Pete.
- 1:25:52Speaker 5: That's it.
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: You got it all right, let's come back in a moment.
- 1:25:56Speaker 4: Well, I still have a job, and we'll take a
- 1:25:58Speaker 4: look around the Notional Football League and wrap it up.
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- 1:27:07Speaker 3: You do one of these men the back of the
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: end zone thing, the dance he's doing.
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: What's what?
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: I just wanted to do? The thing? Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: It's more like a mobility, like upper back work. I
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: don't know if I can do that.
- 1:27:19Speaker 6: I saw one of the best celebrations the other day
- 1:27:21Speaker 6: was did you see the Packers had a pick in
- 1:27:24Speaker 6: the game against the Vikings.
- 1:27:27Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah, that's great, pretty funny.
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: Time to go around the National Football League. Four teams
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: on a buy this week, Broncos, Dolphins, Chargers, and Commanders. Thursday,
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: the Texans beat the Bills. That defense is real.
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: They got after it, man. Yeah. They that pass rush
- 1:27:49Speaker 5: and they do it with four.
- 1:27:50Speaker 6: They don't they don't bring anybody. They brush it with
- 1:27:52Speaker 6: four and that was dominant. The Bills look lost on Thursday.
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: Can you imagine if the Jags have finished that game
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: and one would would be seeing this from Houston right now.
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody was saying, look, how great the Texans are.
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: Two successive leaks.
- 1:28:07Speaker 6: They blew the Jaguars, blew a nineteen point lead to him,
- 1:28:10Speaker 6: and then Titans went to overtime with them.
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: Right, It's true. It's a good point, Pete. See look
- 1:28:16Speaker 2: at you. That's why you locked the playoffs.
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: That's what happened.
- 1:28:19Speaker 5: They going to the playoffs, going to the playoffs.
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: Ravens over the Jets twenty three to ten. The Bears
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: beat the Steelers thirty one, twenty eight. First place Bears still.
- 1:28:28Speaker 5: At it and not first place Steelers anymore, no wild
- 1:28:32Speaker 5: card Steelers. Now.
- 1:28:33Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a good win for the Bears because
- 1:28:36Speaker 6: they hadn't beat a team with a winning record, So
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: that was a good win for them, even though it
- 1:28:40Speaker 6: came against Mason Rudolph.
- 1:28:42Speaker 5: But they did win the game.
- 1:28:44Speaker 4: Also, I was gonna say with that Ravens game real quick,
- 1:28:46Speaker 4: I mean, they dominated, but Derrick Henry didn't really have
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: that good of a day. It's wild seeing Derrick Henry
- 1:28:51Speaker 4: and Saquon Barkley regress after last season.
- 1:28:54Speaker 3: Because they're like one and two way.
- 1:28:55Speaker 5: There's a message in.
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: That, using them too much usage from last year.
- 1:29:01Speaker 5: And then running backs go off the cliff.
- 1:29:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:29:04Speaker 6: And here's the other thing about that Ravens game. Lamar
- 1:29:08Speaker 6: Jackson seven parrs for eleven yards.
- 1:29:10Speaker 5: He's not healthy.
- 1:29:12Speaker 2: Yeah, just not by the way I said, Steelers wild
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: card Steelers are the eight seed. They're out right now,
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: by the way.
- 1:29:18Speaker 5: They're done. Yeah, and the Ravens are gonna win that division.
- 1:29:21Speaker 5: There you go, and nobody's gonna want to play the
- 1:29:23Speaker 5: Ravens in the playoffs.
- 1:29:24Speaker 3: Not at all.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Patriots over the Bengals twenty six to ten. They keep
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: on winning football games. Lions beat the Giants. We touched
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: on that one. It went to overtime, but the Lions
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: got the job done. Packers beat the Vikings twenty three
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: to six. The Chiefs over the Colts. Here they come, pete.
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs now are six and five.
- 1:29:45Speaker 6: And again they're a team nobody wants in everybody want
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: aside from the Jaguars, was anybody else rooting for the
- 1:29:53Speaker 6: rooting for the Everybody was rooting for the Colts yesterday
- 1:29:55Speaker 6: because they don't want the Chiefs in nobody.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: Man, what do you think about this? No, I mean
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: I was.
- 1:30:01Speaker 4: I was chearing for the Colts as well, because I
- 1:30:03Speaker 4: thought maybe the Jaguars get flexed into a primetime game.
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: Then when it's.
- 1:30:06Speaker 4: Indie verse Jacksonville, that doesn't happen. Now probably yeah, I mean, listen,
- 1:30:11Speaker 4: it makes no rhyme or reason. They can't run the
- 1:30:13Speaker 4: football to save their lives. But somehow Patrick Mahomes and
- 1:30:17Speaker 4: any read that, they find a way, and then it
- 1:30:19Speaker 4: is what it is. You got to respect it.
- 1:30:22Speaker 6: At the Jaguars and Colts was never being flexed unless
- 1:30:25Speaker 6: they were both undefeated nickelodeon, two small market teams.
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: No way, I'm trying to watch them slime time or something. Okay,
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: come come on, Pete for the kids. Pete realistic.
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: I know, I know the history of this league and
- 1:30:43Speaker 6: I know how they've treated Jacksonville for years.
- 1:30:46Speaker 5: They just don't treat them with the respect. And so
- 1:30:48Speaker 5: unless you're dominant and really good, they're not gonna They're
- 1:30:51Speaker 5: not going to give you the primetime games.
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: Or have somebody dating Taylor Swift that helped?
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: Uh, she has thirty Titans twenty four the Browns over
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: the Raiders.
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: Dore Sanders Pete.
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: Look, he was good at times and bad at times,
- 1:31:09Speaker 6: and he but he should be starting. Find out where
- 1:31:11Speaker 6: you have in him. And he made Look he made
- 1:31:13Speaker 6: some off schedule throws, made a long one down the field,
- 1:31:17Speaker 6: had another one to Judy, but he threw a terrible
- 1:31:19Speaker 6: interception too.
- 1:31:20Speaker 5: It was good, it was bad what you would expect
- 1:31:23Speaker 5: from a rookie quarterback.
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: I think he is starting next week to then I
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: think they maybe starter yeaheah, he's the guy.
- 1:31:28Speaker 5: He should start. He should be starting. You know what,
- 1:31:30Speaker 5: you have a Dylan Gabriel. He's not the answer, so
- 1:31:32Speaker 5: why not play him and see what you got?
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: The Eagles blew a twenty one nothing lead to the
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys twenty four to twenty one.
- 1:31:40Speaker 5: You have the twenty one.
- 1:31:41Speaker 6: Point leads twenty one nothing and Barkley carried the ball
- 1:31:45Speaker 6: ten times in the game ten.
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: Something wrong with that man.
- 1:31:51Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys gonna get it together? They won two
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: straight since thereby I wonder.
- 1:31:54Speaker 6: Their schedule is brutal though, yeah, I mean he's starting
- 1:31:57Speaker 6: Thursday with the big marquee game against the Chiefs.
- 1:31:59Speaker 5: I mean their schedule is brutal. Are you gonna hear
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: somebody doing that game.
- 1:32:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there Thanksgiving, Dallas.
- 1:32:06Speaker 5: That's right there you go. I'll give you a little
- 1:32:08Speaker 5: pump there. Thanks everybody. You'll get them the game on Thanksgiving.
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be there four thirty Eastern on many of
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: these Westwood one stations.
- 1:32:17Speaker 6: And by the way, the ratings on CBS my network,
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: they're gonna go nuts.
- 1:32:22Speaker 4: Huge there you go, huge shots out with the egos.
- 1:32:27Speaker 4: They lost the game, but A. J. Brown had two touchdowns,
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: so he's back being happy again. So expect expect that
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: AJ Brown bump when you need it the most.
- 1:32:34Speaker 5: Coming up twenty one nothing lead and you give Barkley
- 1:32:37Speaker 5: ten carries. That's just bad offensive.
- 1:32:39Speaker 4: Two touchdowns though for J. Brown Pete, he's getting receptions.
- 1:32:43Speaker 5: He's happy.
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: Falcons beat the Saints twenty four to ten and the
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: Rams over the Buccaneers thirty four to seven. Baker might
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: be out for a bit.
- 1:32:52Speaker 3: Pete.
- 1:32:53Speaker 6: Yeah, that's bad because the good news for them is
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: the schedule gets favorable because they had to think about
- 1:32:59Speaker 6: their games. They play New England at Buffalo at the
- 1:33:02Speaker 6: Rams in three straight weeks.
- 1:33:04Speaker 5: I mean that's brutal. And now and now you got real.
- 1:33:08Speaker 6: The schedule gets really soft, so they'll still be a
- 1:33:10Speaker 6: playoff team, but you got to have him in lineup.
- 1:33:13Speaker 3: It's wild how we were talking about him as an
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: MVP favorite, and that's kind of fun.
- 1:33:17Speaker 5: Fine. I think he got hurt a long time ago
- 1:33:20Speaker 5: and kind of played through it. You shouldn't probably shouldn't
- 1:33:22Speaker 5: have played through it.
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: Well, that NFC South could be an interesting stretch run
- 1:33:28Speaker 2: as well. Now after that, certainly Monday Night football, we
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: head to the Bay Area. It's a huge NFC showdown.
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers at six and five,
- 1:33:37Speaker 2: have a chance to make a run for the NFC South.
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine ers are third place in
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: the NFC West but currently the seventh seed in the
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: NFC playoff race at seven.
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: And four, who you got tonight in Santa Clair?
- 1:33:52Speaker 5: I got I got the Niners. Look, I think this
- 1:33:56Speaker 5: Panthers team is so up and down. They were up
- 1:33:59Speaker 5: last week. I think they're on this week. I'll take
- 1:34:00Speaker 5: the Niners.
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: Uh that that ball that came popping across the screen,
- 1:34:05Speaker 4: I thought that was a bat or something. So if
- 1:34:07Speaker 4: you will go back and watch the film, I was freaking.
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: Yeah, right, there.
- 1:34:10Speaker 4: I thought that was coming right for me. It's the
- 1:34:12Speaker 4: first time'm seeing because I'm always looking down. It's the
- 1:34:15Speaker 4: person actually looked at the screen.
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, every week, every week comes up.
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: I haven't seen it until now. I looked up. For one,
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: he's wearing three D glasses. I looked at That's what
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: I get for from now on. I'm looking back at
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: the script. But uh, no, go and give me the
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: NFC weast.
- 1:34:31Speaker 4: I have them second in my uh power rankings in
- 1:34:34Speaker 4: terms of the PCs and everything. How many first right
- 1:34:38Speaker 4: behind the AMC South. So go and give me the
- 1:34:40Speaker 4: poorty Niners for sure.
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: There's just stunned that you're scared of the screen because
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: I've never looked up before. And well you're not a
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: receiver either. I mean you're a defensive man.
- 1:34:51Speaker 3: Come on, hands down, hand in the dirt, right, that's
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: what that's what it is.
- 1:34:56Speaker 5: That was.
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, yeah, hey, we're we're coming in hot.
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is here.
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: Let's touch on the Thanksgiving games because we want to
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: have a show for them. Of course, Packers at Lions,
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: what do you guys think on that game?
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: Great game?
- 1:35:07Speaker 6: That's I mean, look, Packers played great, on defense against
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: the Vikings. You're gonna have to play great on defense
- 1:35:13Speaker 6: in that one too.
- 1:35:13Speaker 5: I think the Packers will.
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: Win the game.
- 1:35:15Speaker 4: Wow, I think I'm taking the Lions. I think the
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: Packers are still trying to find themselves right now. They
- 1:35:19Speaker 4: are good on defense. I think the Lions know what
- 1:35:21Speaker 4: they are a little more on offense and louse Sam
- 1:35:23Speaker 4: within Porter. That's gonna be huge for the season. But
- 1:35:25Speaker 4: going and give me Gibbs going, you know, give me
- 1:35:28Speaker 4: that explosive offense first, the pack give.
- 1:35:30Speaker 3: Me the Micah Parsons spotlight like that. Yeah, I love
- 1:35:33Speaker 3: to see that. He's a great player.
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: Chiefs at Cowboys. As you said, Pete, I'll be there.
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: That's I mean, I'm excited, man, because, yeah.
- 1:35:41Speaker 5: That's awesome. I've never by the way, if you've never,
- 1:35:43Speaker 5: have you ever been to Dallas Thanksgiving. It's fantastic.
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: I've never got one of the best.
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: They got one of the best spreads in the history
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: of mankind.
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: But I heard the game will be fine too, But
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: tell us about the meal.
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna do. J T.
- 1:35:58Speaker 5: Next Monday night, you'll be talking about that.
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: I guarantee probably will.
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: And each of these teams can kind of keep their
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: run going here, the Chiefs and the Cowboys if they get.
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: A win in this one, you know, so we'll see
- 1:36:10Speaker 3: see what happen.
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think the Chiefs win. I think
- 1:36:12Speaker 5: the Chiefs are the better team.
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs as well. Bengals at Ravens. Oh boy
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: Burrow's back, does that matter?
- 1:36:22Speaker 5: No, it doesn't matter. But the Ravens need to start
- 1:36:24Speaker 5: showing more on offense.
- 1:36:26Speaker 6: They I mean, Lamar Jackson's not healthy and they just
- 1:36:29Speaker 6: have not looked good on offense at all.
- 1:36:31Speaker 5: I know.
- 1:36:31Speaker 3: I think Kyle Hamilton came off that game too as well.
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he's gonna be out.
- 1:36:35Speaker 4: For a period of time and not because they they
- 1:36:37Speaker 4: need him man like, he's that guy's a Swiss Army
- 1:36:40Speaker 4: knife and he's really like their entire defense. So even
- 1:36:42Speaker 4: though if he's gonna be in it and out doesn't matter.
- 1:36:44Speaker 4: I feel like the Ravens you're.
- 1:36:46Speaker 6: Playing at Joe Burrow offense that doesn't have any pressure
- 1:36:49Speaker 6: on it. You know, he's gonna just whip it around
- 1:36:51Speaker 6: all over the place.
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: Dan back there and fling it all over the field.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: Finals thought here Number one Thanksgiving food pick one, oh man,
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: in one in one minute's time.
- 1:37:02Speaker 5: Hurry up, none of it's so good to be honest
- 1:37:05Speaker 5: with you.
- 1:37:05Speaker 2: I forgot about this.
- 1:37:06Speaker 3: Take by you. That's terrible take.
- 1:37:09Speaker 6: I'm not a big I'm not a big Turkey guy.
- 1:37:11Speaker 6: And thanksgiy I take. Mashed potatoes is mine?
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:37:15Speaker 5: Corn bread dressing with gravy, with gravy with gravy.
- 1:37:18Speaker 2: By the way, corn bread dressing, if you put oysters
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: in it, that's a bonus.
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. Stuffing, man, that's like it's gonna be stuffing.
- 1:37:25Speaker 5: It's you know, and my mom used to make stuffing
- 1:37:27Speaker 5: with Italian sausage.
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: Come on now, I can lead to that little zest.
- 1:37:31Speaker 4: Yeah man, stuffing all yeah, yeah, Happy Thanksgiving, gentlemen, appreciate it.
- 1:37:36Speaker 3: Yes you have clams and oysters or whatever? Is it
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: really that happy?
- 1:37:39Speaker 5: But things giving?
- 1:37:40Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take your word.
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: For unless you like, unless you're allergic to shell fish
- 1:37:44Speaker 2: and you probably don't want to.
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: Bad day.
- 1:37:48Speaker 2: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane. I'm JP Shatterger. Thanks to Joe Fortunado,
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: Brent Reaver and our entire crew. Thanks to you for
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: listening and watching. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.