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#131 - Mike Jones of Team Gleam · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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Welcome back to another episode of the After Hours podcast.
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On today's episode, we're bringing you one from final
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bout, our final bout seven trip. This was this was with Mike
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Jones. Mike Jones is better known as
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224 racing on Instagram. If you guys have followed him or
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know of him, he is on Team gleam from the Midwest Chicago area
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and 224 Racing. He basically used as an archive
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page for drifting. And I remember when I first
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found that page, it was, I followed it because it was just
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so much information about basically early drifting culture
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and 180SX styling and basically everything that has to do with
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what we're into here. So I followed that.
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I ended up meeting him maybe sometime around the final, about
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3 or 4 I want to say. And yeah, he's just been, he's
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been a a good person to know, an awesome friend.
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And but the problem was we never really got to hang out with this
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guy because we only see them maybe once when we go to final
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bout and that's it. So I made sure to make a point
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to have this conversation with him on this trip.
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And wow, did we did we not know what we were getting into?
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This was one of the best podcasts me and Carl, me and
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Carl have ever done. Not even me and Carl.
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This is one of the best podcasts me, Carl, Eddie and Malcolm have
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ever done. The setup was amazing.
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Mike and his family were extremely welcoming, just like
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all the other Midwest guys. We did it in his garage next to
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the car. You'll see when you watch this.
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The setting is just perfect. Everything is perfect.
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He had friends coming by. All the team gleam was was in
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and out. We had our friend Eric Ryan who
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lives here now. He was over there because he
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used to live in Illinois. It was, I just can't say good
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enough good things about this. You guys are really going to
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enjoy this one and yeah, let's just say Carl gets a little
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emotional within the 1st 15 minutes so enjoy.
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Welcome everybody to the Fashion After Hours podcast.
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This is probably one of the most professional setups we've had
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during this trip. If you watch the Jet Davis one,
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you don't know what I'm talking about.
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I saw the, you saw the. Picture but we're here at a very
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special there's a very special car we had a very special guy we
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have Chris I mean no I'm. Just kidding.
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We have we have Mike. You might know him as 224 Racing
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on Instagram, but also from this beautiful S14 right next to us.
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But thank you, Mike. Thank you.
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Thank you guys. You have the track.
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Big fan. Yeah, he's doing it right now.
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Yeah. Dude, you said that you were a
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podcast listener. Yeah, to you guys.
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That's that's not my mother. That's not to me, because dude,
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why would you like what Carl's like, Don't you?
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Don't play yourself. Carl's like, you have such a
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nice car, why would you listen to us?
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Yeah. Because I sometimes I forget how
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many cool things our listeners have.
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Really. Like seriously.
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Like, yeah, we don't really. Have that stuff.
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Yeah, when I, when I hit you up and I was like, oh, you think
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you would want to do this? I don't know.
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If I hit you with the normal thing that I usually do, I'm
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sometimes I hit people up and I'm like, so we have this
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podcast and they're like, yeah, listen to it.
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Yeah. But because I don't want to just
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be like, you know, come on our podcast.
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And then they don't know what the Hell's going on.
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But. I don't need you to come on
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nothing like that's. But seriously, this is kind of
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nuts because I told you I I didn't really know who aside
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from the car. And the team.
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And the team, yeah, really who you were.
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And we really just sat here for an hour BS ING talking about all
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the stuff that we all have in common.
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Like look at all the chopper stuff.
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I saw it and I was like yo. I have a lot of interests, dude,
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a lot. And I go down like every rabbit
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hole you can with each interest. It seems you apply yourself.
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Yeah. And like, it's like, it's like a
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drug addict. Like if you're gonna do drugs,
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they're gonna really do drugs. Yeah.
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For real. Oh, he's the execution on
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everything is. Dude, yeah, is.
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Perfect. Thank you.
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Oh my goodness. Especially your house.
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Very, very. Yeah.
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That's all. Kayla's amazing, yeah.
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She comes up with the ideas and I just make them happen, like
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labor stuff. I walked in there before and
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Princess was going off about everything.
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Yeah. It was like, this is perfect.
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I feel like I'm in an Etsy house.
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Oh. Etsy, Pinterest.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pinterest, Pinterest.
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I would say for your guys podcast, it's like the most
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relatable for the scene. I'm interested in US drifting
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like grassroots stuff, I guess I don't.
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Know, I try to try to talk about styled cars a lot.
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Yeah, I think what's weird is, is that we have so many.
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I mean, it doesn't even have to be the same interest, but like,
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it's an interest that I might actually be interested in.
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And I never knew anything about it until you told me about it
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just now. Like, that's the bike thing.
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That's a little bit more, that's a little easier.
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I feel like. I feel like we would like
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anything with wheels and a motor.
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Yeah, but the house thing, yeah, you can walk in there.
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I'm like, dude, well. You were beautiful.
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You were saying you want to go to an antique store later and
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then we walk in there and there's antique that's.
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Literally, yeah. It was exactly.
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It's a curated antique store, yeah.
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They're already, you guys have already done all like you guys
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are pros at that. You're like, yeah, you got to go
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check these. Estate sales, you go right,
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Basically estate sales because those are like older people that
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have died and stuff like that or have moved on and all their
12:01
stuff is left in the house for sometimes the house has never
12:04
been updated and it's all old stuff from 50s, sixties.
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And then you find stuff from maybe their parents that they've
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held onto. So it's like you're going right
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to the stores source, the state sales of source.
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After that it gets put to like thrift stores and and flea
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markets it goes and then it gets dispersed elsewhere.
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So. Pretty much every time you go
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into antique store you're buying dead people stuff.
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Yeah, basically, yeah, I've got clothes.
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I've got. Yeah, I've got.
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Well, you brought those back from when you you traveled back
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from wherever you did. Dude, I'm telling you.
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I'm telling you earlier, Mike was standing right there and the
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sun was hitting in Mike's garage.
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There's a door. The sun was hitting this like
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this area. And I was like, dude, there's no
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way you. Were just looking into his eyes.
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I was. Have you seen him?
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Yeah. Dude, you look like Captain
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America for real. Thank you.
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That's incredible. I think.
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Thank you. Like did you say, did you say
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old lady say that to you? Yeah.
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Like you'd be like a target line or something like that.
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Dude, they probably love you, dude.
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I mean, I love them back. That's a What do you think GLEAM
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stands for? Yeah.
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Wait, yeah. What is?
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Yeah, what does? What is the name Gleam like
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aside from it being like a cool name?
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So how about this? I'll give you these gifts and
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then we'll go from there, dude. How about this?
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I'll give you something. This is your podcast you
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directed how you. Are OK, I got you some gifts.
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I know. Look, I tried getting Frank.
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I wanted to get some stuff for Frankie.
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I got him a little gift. Too, I'm hard to get gifts for.
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Yeah, exactly. So I'll give you this.
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What is this? It's a little key chain.
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It's a pivot shift knob little. You know, like brand typical.
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180 style stuff. Yeah, my friend, most.
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People would think this is a butt plug, but yeah, that's.
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You could if you want. Yeah, I think that means a big,
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small one. Yeah, but big.
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This is this is when you're starting out.
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No, but yeah. You got to warm up too.
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Yeah, the. Gauges.
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They measure them in gauges. That's it.
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I'm just like, you're still kind of warm because you, there is a
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bag here. Yeah, you.
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Said that, you got me. You like the bag?
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I'm just confused and just like, why did you get this?
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Why did you get us a gift? Because I appreciate what you
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guys do a lot like man, thank you.
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I don't know how else to word it.
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That means oh so fucking much. Dude I I consume it a lot like
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I'm at work making money while listening to you guys.
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I don't know if that like this is my way of paying back I.
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Guess I guess dude, I mean I'm having.
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I know we usually never coffee, like, yeah, we usually never
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think of it like that. But it was funny you say that
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now 'cause the last night was the first time when I thought
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about it. I was like, damn, we're kind of
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doing a lot of shit right now. Yeah, like for for what?
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Yeah, exactly. I was like, we're kind of doing
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a lot of shit right now. I mean, it does help my business
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in a way, because then people are like, oh, I want to support
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those people because they make these podcasts, you know?
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So there's that, but like, I don't know, it's.
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And then seeing Carl like he's like, we got to do another
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podcast. Yeah, we got a lot so.
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But I always complain about. It but he loves.
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Doing it, but then we show up and I'm like yo dude, I cannot.
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Believe. Sorry who who made this?
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My friend Cheyenne. Oh, OK, because I'm looking at
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the thing and your car's on there too.
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So hip shake, hip shake, hip shake dot US on Instagram.
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Clutch kick only. Yeah, he's got like correct
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style ones. I forgot what else he made but
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just little trinkets. Or a butt plug.
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Just like what Itai had in his 180, which I think is like one
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of the most. Like it is the most iconic shift
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knob for drifting especially. Thank you man, that's cool.
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No problem dude, I cannot believe.
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There you go, Carl. Yeah, what is this I?
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I also asked. This was easy to bro is heavy.
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Yeah, that's heavy. Bro.
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Is heavy. There's a bigger one.
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Open the bigger one first. There's multiple, yeah.
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Stop I actually am a good person to get gifts work because unlike
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Frankie man, we have. We have similar interests,
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that's why and what I do for work.
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I. Do for work I do auto body.
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Nah, there's gonna be a gallon of 2O2 black in here.
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No. Is that Toyota black?
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What is that the? Bigger 1 bugging out right now.
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No you did not bro what is this? Is that the bigger one and the
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smaller one? There's a big one in here, but
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there's a big smaller box that I see in your.
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Dude, the bigger one is is. I'm going to cry right now.
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No, no, no. I feel like I know what it is.
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He's got me sanding blocks. Sanding blacks, OH.
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Shit, I used bro. Hold on, did Diego talk to you?
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I meant I messaged him first. I was originally going to get
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you those and I said, hey, I know you talked to him and you
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kind of guide him through stuff. I've I met him, obviously we
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know each other Instagram, but I met him at one of the special
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stages. They came up and drove.
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We were pit next to each other and so, and I know Bryson.
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I hang out, yo. I hates.
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Yeah, Bryson. Bryson's When I came, we just
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met. Saw did you this morning super
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cool and he listened to he listened to Frankie say, oh, a
16:46
tractor fell on him. He must be he was listening to
16:49
it in the car. He messages me at like 4:30 in
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the morning bro when I see Frankie we're fighting.
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But but dude no, because he was like because I bought like a
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AA17 inch block from Harbor freight.
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OK. And.
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He said you were using a piece of wood, which I was seen.
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There's old heads I. Sand a piece of wood and then
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make it flat and then. But then how flat is that going?
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But then I didn't get why he said this to me.
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But I bought the sanding block. We were on the phone because I
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had a question. And he goes yet maybe just don't
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buy any more sanding blocks. What I'm like, dude, why?
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Because people are going to give me more work for final bout like
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that sounds great. And then he's like just don't
17:30
buy any more sanding blocks. And then he changed the subject
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so quick and my brain. Just I appreciate that Diego
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dude. Thank thank you so much.
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No problem like this is like. I use those at work.
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I like basically every day. They're super helpful out.
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There. Awesome blocks.
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We were in the car the other day and he was in the back seat
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talking to someone and he was like explaining how to sand
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something and he's like, yo, just grab a piece of wood or
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something. Sometimes I just grab wood and I
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and I cut it and I file it down and then I use it as a standing.
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Yeah, no, you definitely need those work.
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What's so weird is like the bodywork thing and the painting
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thing. Never would have fucking thought
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that I'd be doing any of it. And then now that with Diego and
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shit like that, like it just trickles down like information
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so easy to spread. Like you could text somebody,
18:14
call somebody, and then like you get an answer and you don't have
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to like try or earn it right away.
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But like the bodywork thing, I didn't know how involved it
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really was. So that's why like the block
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thing, you're not just sanding something.
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So like, you have no idea how much this is.
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You're using sticky sandpaper? Yeah, yeah.
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Perfect. So that's what that this is not
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hook I'm. Oh, it's a the stick one.
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Yeah, yeah, I have. I also I also have.
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Those Yeah, you can get it off Amazon.
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Like the Dura Gold brand? Yeah, dude, you have literally
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enabled me. Good.
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Yeah, it's good. I I Yeah.
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I'm not like buying you more cigarettes than fucking Doctor
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Pepper or something like that. Yeah, No, I don't.
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I want to a. Big case, a doctor he would so
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nuts. Sound like my.
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Mom, but this is dude, I, I dude, I can't fucking can't
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believe it, dude. Thank you so much.
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And there's another box in here and I saw a word on the box and
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like this. One's going to be a little
19:05
project, but it shouldn't cost you much.
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But. I know, but it doesn't matter.
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Like I'm looking at it and it is it not just a box?
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Because I hope it's just a box. But it's an Iwata box LPH 400.
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This is a it's basically like the TDO 6A spray gun.
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Spray. I knew that was what you were
19:21
going to do. That's what I was thinking was
19:23
in there. Dude, I have no good.
19:26
My gun's not good, he said. It's the.
19:28
TDO 6A spray. Gun.
19:29
It's like old. Yeah, seriously.
19:30
It's just like old Reliable. They work.
19:32
They still sell them. They've been selling them.
19:35
I think it it needs to be serviced.
19:37
I don't remember. This was my spare For my spare,
19:41
so it's been it. Yeah, it's yours.
19:45
What the fuck? I think it's I think it's a 1.4
19:47
tip too. That's dude, you're not
19:50
spraying. Waterborne, no.
19:51
OK, I heard Waterborne's really weird, is that true?
19:55
I don't know. I don't never really sprayed it.
19:57
I just sprayed solvent. We don't, yeah.
20:01
Carl. Dude, thank you so much.
20:03
These are like the nicest gifts Carl's gotten, dude.
20:06
Is this a fucking I want a gun? I was just talking to who was I
20:10
because I was in my driveway messing.
20:12
Outside. Hold on, hold on.
20:12
My mic's fucking up a little bit.
20:13
I think it's just you can also pause.
20:16
Good. Are we good again?
20:18
Yeah, we're good right now. OK, I'll stop moving it like
20:20
that. Yeah, but far good.
20:22
We were just talking about how important kind of the gun is now
20:26
because it's like, at first I really didn't think the
20:29
equipment really mattered because I had to learn about it
20:31
at first. But now I'm like, damn, like,
20:33
this thing's kind of not that great.
20:35
Yeah. And like, I noticed that the
20:37
quality, I guess, of the gun mattered a little bit more.
20:40
But dude, yo, thank you so much. No problem.
20:43
Like, I'm glad. I'm gonna send you pictures.
20:45
He's going to a great home. Even the gun is an antique.
20:47
Dude, I know what? The the box, yeah.
20:50
It was just the old box. I had boxes fucking you know
20:52
what? I'm.
20:53
Saying damn that is sick even your spray gun is.
20:56
I'm never calling you Captain America again, dude.
20:58
Yeah, there's only one. Mic, I don't take any offense to
21:01
it, dude. That is if you call me like I
21:03
was going to say white trash, but I wouldn't even take them
21:05
into the idea. So you you do auto do that, I do
21:10
body. Work yes, I do auto body at
21:11
work. I spray my own stuff because I
21:15
can, if that makes sense I prefer not to.
21:18
I used to do like paint jobs in here.
21:20
I did a complete FD for my friend Ariani in here.
21:23
It just it in my personal space. It's such a mess and this is
21:26
like my personal space. Like as you can tell, it's like
21:29
I want it to be mine and make it fun to be in.
21:34
And when it's like like I had a whole tarp set up and it just no
21:38
matter how good you are, it's shit just gets.
21:40
Everywhere dude it's so bad I made I would love to do that too
21:44
because I do miss having the garage space but right now
21:47
that's all I got. So what I tried to do or what I
21:51
am doing is like it's a retractable cool.
21:54
I have like 4 or 6 pulleys on the ceiling and then it just
21:57
like APVC frame and just goes up and down.
21:59
That's really cool. I It's kind of neat, but like
22:02
that's. Really cool.
22:03
Like when you say that like being in here and being able to
22:07
sit and it's not covered in overspray or anything.
22:09
So that means you had to have so like scrubbed this thing.
22:12
Oh, it was that. You see how clean the garage
22:14
door is that It was like, yeah, it cleaned the hell out of that.
22:17
It was all like blue from when I had my blue.
22:19
I built my blue S13 in here. I sprayed the engine Bay.
22:22
I sprayed everything, basically the whole car in here.
22:24
What happened to that car? I bought it from Cheyenne who
22:28
made those things. He's a good friend of mine.
22:30
And then I went through 2 S 14 SRS because of wire and
22:33
specialties harness and I just got rid of it, sold it back to
22:38
him. Holy shit.
22:39
And he did built KAG 3660. It made 515 on the E85.
22:44
OK, you had. Yeah.
22:46
So you had two cars for a minute?
22:47
Basically, yeah, in here, which was a lot like.
22:50
Yeah, it's always a lot. But I mean, I 180 is like I
22:55
still want another one. It's like my favorite car and
22:57
like this thing is styled around 180 style.
22:59
That's. Probably why I like it.
23:00
Yeah, 1718 sunroof popped. I mean, just like definitely
23:04
take all my cues from 180 styling, you know?
23:07
That's the that's the most stylistic drift S chassis I
23:12
guess. I think when you look at this
23:14
one though, what's nice about and when you say it's 180 style
23:16
now kind of makes a little more sense because it's so sleek.
23:20
I feel like S Fourteens right now at least, or at least cars
23:23
in general. This arrow is so thick like it's
23:26
it's to the ground probably at this height.
23:29
If you had like a what's a what's a S14 kit that's big like
23:32
a drift line kit? BN.
23:34
Yeah, BN. I mean, stylish.
23:36
There's so many. Something but since it's still
23:39
kind of sleek. Yeah, people say it looks like
23:41
almost like sexy style for S14. Yeah, like it's, but it's still
23:44
again, like it has that form factor that isn't just the
23:47
chunky I it's a drift car. Yeah, like what?
23:50
This I'm driving this a EUR type 2.
23:52
It is, Yeah. Oh.
23:53
Wow, that's why it fits so well. Like he was mentioning how well
23:55
it fit before. It's like I've had I bought,
23:58
I've had this kit. I think I bought this kit like
24:00
maybe 2014. Oh wow.
24:01
OK. Yeah, and I've it's been the
24:03
same kit since I fixed it a bunch, but.
24:05
The back bumper has a break in it, but yet look at the gap.
24:10
What is that? Yeah, the whole thing is like,
24:11
very. It fits very well.
24:13
But I didn't know you did body work.
24:14
This is so funny. Yeah, I cut cars apart for a
24:17
little. Like, I like doing that.
24:18
Like I got some crazy pictures on my phone and shit I cut
24:21
apart. It's super evident now.
24:23
Dude, look at it did. You ever crash the quarter
24:25
panel? Yes, this side and I showed him,
24:27
yeah, I fixed the I ended up saving the quarter.
24:29
I remember when that happened. Was it a final go?
24:31
Yeah, yeah, I remember. And I was like having a with my
24:34
mind. I was like, I was like, no, no.
24:37
Were we there? So we weren't there that.
24:38
One What year was it? I don't.
24:40
He didn't know. Maybe.
24:41
You don't. I don't remember.
24:44
Before COVID. No, it was during COVID I think.
24:49
Then we probably there were there.
24:50
OK, Yeah. Damn, Because I had taken 2021
24:54
off and I was going to get in the blue car ready.
24:57
Like I ended up drifting a final bout and this car was in primer.
25:00
Like I didn't even have it painted.
25:01
Yeah, I don't remember what year that was.
25:03
I was trying to get the blue car done so I didn't have time to
25:05
paint this but the blue car was messing up a lot.
25:08
I just. Remember when I saw you fixing
25:09
it? I was like, oh thank God.
25:10
Yeah, I ended. Up putting.
25:12
Overs on it no I was I am anti that I want to stay stock metal.
25:15
Rear this car would be like I would love to see what it would
25:18
look like when you did the defenders but.
25:20
I wouldn't. It would never be the same.
25:21
And if I did, it would be those charge speed ones, which look
25:23
like a factory. Yeah, but I have the ability.
25:25
I had a literally a new quarter panel like behind my garage I
25:28
was going to put on the car. But you were like I could.
25:30
Fix. I could fix it, yeah.
25:32
Yeah. That's so I was able to save the
25:33
quarter. Yeah, that's awesome.
25:35
And the door, thankfully, like I didn't have to swap any of that
25:37
stuff. So it's still original to the
25:39
car and the car has 94,000 miles on it I think right now.
25:42
It's kind of funny, like when we do these podcasts, we usually
25:45
we're usually not in a garage, but on the the road ones we are
25:49
sometimes in a garage. And we, the last one we did with
25:51
Lee, it turned, it basically turned it into a car video
25:55
because we were just like, we saw his car and we were just
25:57
obsessed. So we were talking about it and
25:59
I'm doing the same thing now. I'm like, what tires are you
26:01
running in the front like I'm trying to?
26:03
Figure I'm trying the Celeras up front right now.
26:05
What size? Those are 230 fives 235 and I
26:08
have a pair of two fifteens just in case.
26:10
I didn't like the 235 but I have a huge front spacer on them.
26:14
OK, so that's an interesting thing about S14 Cokie is like I
26:18
have a 35mm spacer, 17 by 9 plus 21 Yeah, and it with a 35 and a
26:25
235 and I'm stock metal. So it's like it fits.
26:28
I mean like what are the like B knuckle dudes running like 50
26:31
millimetre spacers? Are like 60 crazy the.
26:33
Phone book so that the car works really.
26:35
Well, maybe I just don't know anything else but.
26:39
Yeah, You saw a video when Tom took those out in Japan.
26:41
He took them out of his carry on there.
26:42
Yeah. And they were like fucking this
26:44
big. It's insane.
26:45
It's a sleeve of spacers. Yeah, what I just if it had
26:50
chunky overs and and wide fronts with this like Type 2 is kind of
26:56
OEM plus in my opinion like this is perfect in every way.
27:00
Yeah, I mean, knowing how well he is at executing a car, I'm
27:03
sure the gaps be fine with overs, but.
27:06
Look at the. Whole yeah, no.
27:07
One wants to see it. Yeah, quarter, like to me, the
27:11
quarters is the one thing you can't undo.
27:13
So it's like the sole of the car.
27:14
I'm the best person to. I know I heard you talk about
27:17
that recently and I totally understand it.
27:19
Yeah, like I did it because I, I had a idea in my head, but I
27:24
like, I, I regretted it so fast, like so.
27:27
Fast. I also think over fenders are
27:28
like the easy way out. I would like to see people do
27:31
more custom metal work to fit what they.
27:33
Obviously if you're doing like a 265 on a 18 by 10 1/2, whatever
27:37
people are doing, you can't really fit that.
27:38
But 9 1/2 + 12 like you can do like nice custom work in order
27:44
to fit that. Even right now, my setup, I got
27:46
the 30 mil overs and I'm like the last time I like five years
27:50
ago or whatever, when we were setting up the car, Josh was
27:52
over and he was like, yo, you could fit bigger tires.
27:54
And we're like, and I'm like, yeah, but I can't with the
27:55
wheels. Like it won't look the right
27:57
way. Bro we were at the track and
27:59
Josh tried to do the same thing to me.
28:00
Yeah, he's always trying to fit bigger tires and stuff.
28:02
I'm showing him my new wheels. I just bought like my first like
28:06
cool wheels. Like I was like, oh, they're
28:08
Amistats, Josh, check it out. He walks over to the back.
28:12
You got some room in there? I'm like, what?
28:16
But dude, like yeah, that you keep saying the word execution
28:20
and like I just the gaps, dude. Yeah, all the panel gaps.
28:24
What hood is this? It's a Sabon carbon fiber hood
28:28
and I don't think they make him anymore, but it's a garage ass.
28:32
Would have been like the actual company they somehow got the
28:35
mold off of in Japan, which is like a old shop in Osaka.
28:39
He was like a pro driver. Saigo Yamamoto garage ass hood
28:42
is like really hot for 180 yeah that's the one I had on the blue
28:46
car and so. It looks really cool with these
28:48
because the events are all different, like the two
28:50
different style events. Yeah, and they really work well
28:53
together. So it's like one of those things
28:54
where you're able to get like, I couldn't find an actual 14S14
28:59
and I obviously after some research found out that's Sibon
29:03
somehow still like made it. And it's like super high
29:06
quality, like they made like. Sibon is better now.
29:09
Right. Oh my God.
29:10
It's like so nice. They make like furniture and
29:12
stuff like that. The quality, Yeah, the quality
29:15
of this is like so nice. What?
29:16
Do you mean they make furniture? They make like carbon fiber,
29:18
like chairs and like anything on carbon fiber like composites and
29:23
stuff. Mike again, Right, It's Mike.
29:24
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what's wrong.
29:25
With that. Cable.
29:26
I don't know. I'm going to stop shaking it,
29:28
but no. And Lee also had a sidebone Cape
29:31
and that. Was so funny, so many similar
29:34
things going on right now. Simulation podcast on this one,
29:37
like he had a sidebone hood and he was like, yeah, I know it's
29:39
it's sidebone. He's like, but the quality is
29:41
really. Good.
29:41
It's so nice but The thing is like at what point?
29:45
Maybe this is me just justifying to make myself feel better, but
29:48
if it's better quality than the original, like is it?
29:51
You know what I'm saying? Is it considered a Rep?
29:52
I don't. Know, but you could go deep on
29:53
that one and be like why do you have a turbo from fucking 2001
29:57
or true yeah I mean. Yeah, I know that I can't do
29:59
these like dudes in Sr. pages that are like G25 and our tech
30:03
manifold on everything and it's like this so.
30:05
Boring. It goes in one ear out the.
30:07
Other. Yeah.
30:07
Is that really what the what the appeal for you guys is, is the
30:11
fact that it's like a. Well I can already tell that me
30:14
and him like old shit. That's that's what I guess what
30:17
I want to say. I do, but like that those G
30:19
series turbos are fucking. Yeah, they are.
30:22
They're quick. They're they're good for.
30:24
That does nothing for me. Like I'm going strictly like
30:28
sounds where 100% like the main thing for me yo.
30:31
Me too, Carl. We we talked about me and Josh
30:34
where Rev Gasm were driving on the highway and they were in the
30:37
van like like going to yeah, pizza thing.
30:41
Yeah, Pequods. Yeah.
30:43
And Josh just we're cruising. He's in fourth.
30:46
It's like kind of cruising kind of high.
30:48
Yeah. And he goes, I'm having, I'm
30:51
just such a sensory guy, man. And we're having like one of
30:54
these talks is I I don't, I had an opportunity to just talk to
30:57
Josh. It's just me and Josh in the
30:58
car. He's like, I'm just a sensory
31:01
guy, man. And we just got done the day
31:03
before of me just babbling about how 70% of the reason why I like
31:07
being in the car is the sound, the smell, the everything.
31:11
Just like that word he used. I was like, I guess that's
31:15
really what it is. But then what he's like.
31:16
He was like, he's like, I'm just, I'm just cruising in
31:18
fourth gear, yeah. He's like, because I just want
31:20
to hear I'm here, man. Cruising in fourth, just driving
31:24
straight away. He's like I should shift but it
31:26
sounds. Cool, I just want to hear it.
31:28
And then like every shift too. Yeah, he would Rev it a little.
31:32
Bit Rev match. No, no, just just like a double
31:36
clutch for no reason. And I'm sitting there and I'm
31:39
like, he really is making this the most iconic looking drive
31:44
right now because everywhere we go, it's not like excessive,
31:47
like, you know, when Chris backs a car out.
31:49
Oh, and he's like. Dude, yeah, Chris loves doing
31:52
that. Yeah, even when we're out at
31:54
Carmi's, Chris will go like. Yeah.
31:58
Yeah, and but his was like a little like boom, like just
32:02
between shifts. What?
32:04
There's not even a word for that.
32:05
Like, what is that about a person?
32:06
Josh is that person. Like, everything he does is
32:09
cool. Like, it just emits from him and
32:12
like, he knows almost in a way. But it's, like, natural.
32:15
Yeah. Well, like every there's.
32:17
I would say it's style. It is, yeah, I would say.
32:19
His style, it's just and he gets it.
32:21
Like you probably can't leave anything alone.
32:23
Like plain, you'd have to touch it.
32:25
Yeah, it has to, yeah. Has your spin on it like you
32:29
want to make it your own. Probably that's.
32:31
Another thing too, is it like with me is if it doesn't have a
32:33
purpose in my life, I don't like want it, you know, I don't like,
32:37
I don't want to say clutter and stuff like that, but it's like I
32:40
can get rid of things if it doesn't have like a like a
32:44
purpose to me. I don't know, streamline
32:47
efficient maybe? Yeah, like.
32:49
Maybe it's like my work coming through to my personal life too,
32:52
like, 'cause it's like how you stay efficient at the job.
32:55
So you you do body work full time.
32:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I do.
32:59
My shop's like 3 minutes from here.
33:00
Or like the shop I work for. Hell yeah.
33:02
And I've been with that company for 13 years.
33:04
What kind of body work is it? Like truck stuff is a.
33:06
Car, it's called cars. It's all insurance work.
33:08
DRP we're ADRP with multiple insurance companies.
33:10
So direct repair program, yeah, with like GEICO, Allstate.
33:14
State yeah, we have a buddy Ethan, that does that.
33:16
Oh, by us. Yeah, he does auto buddy.
33:18
Yeah, yeah, His shop is like one of the bigger ones in in Bergen
33:21
County, I guess. Yeah, do DEM insurance.
33:23
Jobs, I mean, I'm sure, you know, it's honestly, it's like
33:26
underrated in industry for young people getting into automotive.
33:29
That's what he's saying. Yeah.
33:32
I try to sell people. I was trying to sell him, you
33:34
know. Oh yeah, I want, I want him to
33:36
get in. You know, it would be
33:37
interesting if it's something I'm passionate about.
33:39
And then there's good money. It's great money, dude.
33:41
Yeah. So it's like people don't know
33:43
they want to go work at like a dealer.
33:45
I don't know, like a dealership? Don't.
33:46
Want to work at a dealership? No.
33:47
Unless you're a salesman. Yeah.
33:49
Like that's the only thing. That, but even that you have to
33:51
like get beat up by customers. Do a lot of cocaine.
33:55
Yeah, probably. Yeah, there's a lot of that,
33:58
dude. I'm telling you there is.
33:59
Dude, watch me. Watch me cut and above this car.
34:01
Really. Quick, but I remember in the in
34:03
the top Secret 180 chat you were talking about painting and like
34:06
you were like I think there was a paint conversation in there.
34:08
Yeah, we were, you know, it was just like sending pictures of
34:10
the shit I do. Yeah, yeah, some of the like,
34:12
weird, like I have a Subaru, like I'm off this whole week,
34:15
but I have a Subaru. It's like a brand new Subaru,
34:17
like completely cut apart right now.
34:19
It's like, why do they let me do this?
34:21
But like some of these cars should be totalled in my
34:24
opinion. But if it's worth it, the cars,
34:26
some cars are just worth so much so.
34:29
How does it you you have like a salary that's hours.
34:32
It's Commission. It's all Commission based.
34:34
I need it. That's interesting.
34:35
I need it. So yeah.
34:36
So it like you kind of gives you incentive.
34:39
Yep, as long as the work is there.
34:40
Obviously when the work's not there, you kind of get screwed.
34:42
But where I'm at, it's like two older guys I work with, so
34:45
they're a little bit slower paced that.
34:47
Probably make me that probably make me at least enjoy it a
34:50
little bit, you know, since it was slow.
34:53
But no, I, I know, and even just from the brief conversations I
34:57
had with Diego and his like five year plan or whatever, like the
35:01
insurance job thing is nuts, 'cause these cars are I, I don't
35:06
know how you guys feel about this, but I thought about this
35:09
all on the way here 'cause there's a buttload of cars here
35:13
in this area that congregated, right?
35:15
And like, we're making more cars and more cars and more cars and
35:20
more cars and then we're going to just run out of room for cars
35:23
or we're going to run out of cars.
35:25
And like, what if they made what if?
35:29
Because they, because you know, these rules that they're making,
35:31
bro, they could make any rule. And now what if they were just
35:34
like, OK, you guys have to just fix the cars that we got right
35:38
now because that's all you're kidding.
35:40
Not we cannot make anymore. How sick would that?
35:43
Be I heard a theory I forgot what it was on, but it was like
35:46
if aliens were to come down to to us, they would think that
35:49
cars were like the rulers because we're inside of.
35:51
Them that was on Rogan OR? Something was it, I don't know,
35:53
some some stupid theory, I don't know.
35:56
It's like it would make sense because there's so many of.
35:58
Them, they were like coming down from space and looking down.
36:00
They'd be like. There's cars everywhere.
36:02
Those things are inside of the cars, so yeah.
36:05
Like the car, there's so many cars.
36:07
Like I never think about it, but I never.
36:08
Thought of for. Example when we were in our
36:11
hotel room before and you look out the window and you're just
36:14
like, there's thousands of cars going by and it's just one
36:17
little section of highway and it's like fuck, there's a.
36:20
Lot of or like that traffic jam on the way into Chicago.
36:23
Yeah dude, you got it. That was an 8 lane look, we're
36:28
in the somewhat middle, so I could see the whole thing.
36:31
Yeah, because a train went by too.
36:33
Oh my, and I was a. Train in the middle of the
36:36
highway. This did not be the L.
36:37
Yeah, yeah. What is it called?
36:39
It's called the L It's like the local.
36:41
Like commuting trains. Yeah, whatever.
36:43
Like multiple lines, whatever. The bridges you take to get to
36:45
Chicago from east, I guess, and then you get on this big highway
36:49
with eight lanes and there's. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the L So
36:51
you're on South side? Yeah, by Sox stadium and stuff.
36:54
Like that, Four lanes on east side, 2 above the four on each
36:58
side. And then the train went by and I
37:00
was like. This is God.
37:01
I mean, it's fucking stand still.
37:02
It's gotta be hell at 5 or something.
37:05
We were there at like. 6-7 ish something like.
37:07
That people go through that every day.
37:09
That's why I stay. That's why I live out here.
37:11
I stay away from there. I have disdain for it down
37:13
there. Yeah, like, I only go down, like
37:16
for my friends, Yeah, because they all live in the city.
37:18
But I can't 1000%. I don't have the patience.
37:22
Yo, going back to the name. You want to give up crap, Gleam.
37:26
Yeah. Gleam.
37:27
Oh, we we say it stands for grandma's love.
37:29
Everything about me. And that's all I was saying with
37:31
the old ladies. Grandma.
37:35
But the name really, I came up with the name because I was like
37:38
when I was getting more confident body work and stuff
37:41
like that and wanting to do stuff on the side, I was like,
37:42
well, I need a name and like being into like the niche drift
37:45
shit I'm into. It's like the name is important.
37:47
I was just coming up with like what cool names and stuff like
37:51
that. So we drove the first two or
37:53
three final bouts as street dancer with Moonlighter.
37:58
I remember St. Dancer.
37:59
Yeah. So it was multiple teams because
38:01
we had like, it was multiple friend groups, but we didn't
38:03
have enough because they wanted at least three cars.
38:06
So we had combined teams and it was just like a mouthful to say
38:10
St. Dancer with Moonlighter St.
38:11
And so we combined the teams. And then we use the name Gleam
38:15
as like. So that's just like 789 people
38:19
on the team or something like that.
38:21
There's a lot of cars, dude. It's a mayhem.
38:23
And is it just gleam now or is it still like?
38:24
It's just gleam. OK, Yeah, yeah.
38:26
I mean, we all have, like I have, they have some St.
38:29
Dancer stickers on their cars. Like it's still owed.
38:31
Like, yeah, that's to what we came from, yeah.
38:35
Where are you getting these inspos for the names?
38:38
Because not the gleam thing like.
38:39
Magazines like this, like these are my North Star, basically
38:42
like these and old, old videos and stuff like that.
38:45
This is the stuff that inspires me still to this day, so.
38:47
Cool, he said. That was his North Star bro.
38:50
I knew you're gonna like that. I.
38:52
Mean I can't. Like.
38:55
It's it's the only way to put it, like I can look at these
38:58
non-stop and still get inspiration.
38:59
There's thousands of pounds, thousands of cars they built in
39:03
that tiny little country that are still coming out.
39:05
These archive pages that people are finding like still pictures
39:09
to this day. It's like blow is my mind of
39:11
these cars. Yeah, we were talking about your
39:13
Instagram, how that's how I viewed it.
39:14
It was like an archive type Instagram and then it kind of
39:17
just became your. Person yeah, I wasn't posting my
39:19
car like I had all these pictures.
39:21
I've been like looking like basically ever since we got a
39:24
computer at home. There was no US websites and
39:27
stuff like that. You were ending up on shop
39:29
gallery pages, like to find cool pictures of cars.
39:33
So you're ending up on Japanese sites.
39:35
And I was just saving them and saving them or like dudes that
39:37
would like photographers in Japan, They would have basically
39:40
just have like galleries and you'd like click it.
39:44
And then it's like, oh, he's at Tokyo Water Salon in like 2001.
39:47
And it's just like all these pictures just yeah, pictures
39:49
from whatever cyber-shot camera it was.
39:52
Yeah, thousands of these pictures.
39:54
There was a old crazy Max website that, you know, use of
39:57
friends with those guys. And that website is insane of
40:02
like all these old Osaka teams and I'm sure.
40:05
You'll see going on like you can.
40:06
You can, people. I think you can.
40:10
It's hard to find them. That's why you have to use like
40:11
Wayback Machine or like some of these dudes on these archive
40:15
pages now are like literally like emailing people, finding
40:17
them on Facebook, mailing them stuff to get old pictures.
40:21
And it literally is doing nothing for them financially.
40:23
Yeah, I was. No, that's why it's.
40:24
Like so hard for me to like yeah, I they're doing such a
40:27
great job that it's like for me it.
40:29
Yeah, you're kind of like whatever I'm.
40:32
Kind of well, it's like hard to even like I don't cuz I want
40:34
like high quality pictures too. I don't want to just be posting
40:37
any shit I find, which is like a lot, Yeah, so, but I still love
40:41
that stuff like it's like these and then going on the old shop
40:43
gallery pages and stuff like that.
40:45
It's funny, I met What's his Face from Cobraworks the other
40:48
day. Adam.
40:49
Yeah, yeah. I met him like last night.
40:51
Was that two nights ago? I don't know what.
40:52
Day. I don't know what year it is.
40:53
Yeah. Like I met him and I first thing
40:55
I said to him was I don't know how much fucking research you
40:59
do, but I'm like, dude, your page is insane.
41:02
Yeah, like dude. And the amount he uploads to
41:05
yeah like start explaining all the DVDs and VHS are like.
41:08
I'm assuming he has VHS as well. Yeah, he started explaining it
41:11
though, and he it made a little bit more sense.
41:12
He's like, he's like my mom like would go to Japan and all this
41:17
stuff and she was into cars, so she's the reason why that's
41:21
amazing. That became like, and that's why
41:23
he was at Tokyo Auto Salon. Like when he was, like, really
41:26
young. Yeah, I was like, oh wow, that
41:28
makes a lot of sense. That circle or I heard of I only
41:32
knew that his name was Adam because Daryl would talk about
41:37
under steer King. He's got that little sticker on
41:40
his now new sore. But as soon as I saw him, I
41:45
wanted to make sure that I said hi cuz I that page, I don't
41:48
really follow a lot of the archive type of pages, but his
41:52
page patina, yeah, research. Dude that one is crazy.
41:57
And garage soaked up. And Yep, and that or whatever.
42:00
Is that the one that you shared last night or?
42:01
Yes, Yeah, I just followed that guy.
42:03
Crazy. Yeah.
42:04
But that patina research, I like the.
42:06
Patina edits because it's a maybe.
42:09
Some people might not like this actually, but.
42:10
It's funny. It's almost like a spin on edits
42:14
that it's another way for us to ingest it.
42:17
Yeah, it's like a little spin off of like what that edit
42:20
probably was. Or maybe it is like that.
42:22
I don't know what size. Matches everything together.
42:24
It's like so sick. It's like multiple like
42:27
interests he's using is like hip hop and stuff like that and then
42:30
editing with the cars and. Stuff and multiple classes of
42:32
vehicles too. So like there were, there's like
42:34
days where it's posts a lot of SXE stuff.
42:37
Yeah. And so like different, I've
42:40
never heard of some of this stuff and I'm like seeing it for
42:43
the first time and here's like 8 slides of it.
42:45
Yeah, like, oh hell yeah. I, I usually view Instagram as
42:48
like just straight poison, Like I've never even to be on it.
42:51
But then something like that will pop up.
42:53
Yeah. And I'm like.
42:54
They're using it for good. This makes me want to yeah, use
42:57
this yeah like and actually look at stuff yeah, cuz it's not just
43:01
fucking. Brain rot, yeah.
43:03
Dude, the brain rot. Yeah, that's like the tough
43:05
thing. Like, dude, it's like I try and
43:07
fight it so hard, but sometimes you find yourself done these
43:09
like, reels. Yeah, you're like fuck, dude.
43:11
This bro No tell me I. Hate that about myself.
43:14
Sometimes I'm like, yeah, I just want to like throw this thing
43:16
away. Tell me you're not getting some
43:18
hard laughs though. Some of the brain rot you I some
43:22
of the brain rot is so brain rot.
43:25
Funny things on there. That I I have to just be like
43:28
what? The fuck?
43:30
And then that's what causes me to close.
43:32
Yeah. Like I'll get a DM.
43:35
It's just a picture of a frog like.
43:38
But then at the same time, you're like, why am I laughing
43:40
so hard? Yeah, but like, I, I try to make
43:44
hard rules for myself. I'll be like, all right, I'm not
43:45
going. I'm gonna go home tonight.
43:46
I'm not looking at my phone. Good.
43:48
That's the only fucking way. Yeah.
43:49
Cuz like, if you don't do that, yeah, you're gonna be like, oh,
43:51
I gotta check something. Yeah.
43:53
And then you're like you're. Checking the weather and all of
43:54
a sudden you're on fucking. You're on Instagram and you're
43:56
like, what was I doing? Yeah.
43:57
And it's been 15 minutes. Yeah. 15 minutes.
44:00
You're lucky I'm in there for 9 hours.
44:02
Oh. My I'm in AK hole.
44:04
Dude, I just, it's, I don't know, I I feel like cuz I was
44:09
trying to hear out Frankie and I guess you as well because it
44:12
seems like you guys are cut from the same cloth with this, but if
44:15
you put the phone down sometimes like you when you gave it up for
44:18
January. I loved it bro like your.
44:20
Business kind of right now, though, Malcolm was taking care
44:24
of it. It helps to just kind of what if
44:26
something happened in that month where you could have had an
44:28
opportunity, you know what I'm saying there's.
44:30
Luckily I don't have that situation anymore.
44:32
Yeah, thankfully, Malcolm. 'S in there.
44:34
If you if you are relying on your phone for your business,
44:37
then yeah, you can't do that. Not relying, but it's a, It's a
44:39
good tool. It's a tool.
44:41
It's a tool, yeah. It's a tool if you look at it as
44:42
a tool. If I didn't have Malcolm and
44:44
Eddie and they wouldn't work, I would never be able to.
44:46
Do that. Oh, this would not, we would not
44:48
be doing this. Yeah, No shot.
44:49
It would just be me and you. Fuck.
44:50
Well. I mean, I wouldn't be able to
44:51
give up my phone like that would be crazy to me.
44:53
Yeah, but I've wanted to forever.
44:55
Yeah, like I I wanna, I keep. I'm always like I'm just gonna
44:58
delete my Instagram, but I'm but I'm still gonna be on it because
45:00
of faction, so might as well just leave it.
45:03
That's why I never got. Rid of it?
45:04
Do you guys look at it as a catalyst like first stuff?
45:07
It just seems like sometimes like a waste of time, like I
45:10
could be just doing other things.
45:13
I feel I feel like my time is completely different than it was
45:16
6/7. Years ago, absolutely.
45:18
Yeah. I feel like.
45:19
And it's like so like it just hooks you in.
45:21
Now it's like, I hate the algorithms and all this stuff.
45:23
It's like, yeah, it's really good.
45:24
It's so fucked up feeling. They got us, man.
45:26
Yeah, they really, they get in US.
45:28
Damn AI stuff. And we're like, we're adult men.
45:32
Like imagine like kids and stuff like that.
45:34
That's like that's. No idea.
45:35
Yeah, that's. Actually really freaking it.
45:37
It is, yeah. It's terrifying.
45:38
To think about actually because like imagine dude me as a kid,
45:43
like if I had that kind of access to ADHD type of dude, Oh
45:48
my God. And it's.
45:49
Probably just gonna make it worse.
45:51
But I have seen this though, I feel like since they're so
45:55
exposed to so many things there, there there's some weird
45:57
differences between some of the ages of the generations, I guess
46:01
that came out after us and feel like they were exposed to so
46:06
much that they get more jaded to stuff.
46:09
Some of them, they're just like, honestly, in my opinion, that
46:14
would be like the modern day you like you're just over all of
46:17
this shit that you've seen already.
46:19
So now you're just like, all right, like.
46:21
Yeah, I get what you're saying. That's you as a modern day
46:23
child. Yeah.
46:25
Like it would be there's there's two ways I or not multiple ways,
46:28
but that's one of the ways I feel like kids turn out.
46:31
Yeah, it's just I don't overexposure.
46:33
I guess what Gen. Z is going to end up being like,
46:37
I don't know. I mean, we already can see it
46:38
because like kids will come into the shop and they won't look you
46:41
in the eye and they'll. Really.
46:42
Oh, yeah, there's, they're all fucked up for sure.
46:45
Malcolm. Malcolm knows too.
46:46
Yeah, because. He's one of them.
46:48
He's not looking. He's one of them because he's
46:50
one of them. He knows no.
46:51
Well, that's because Malcolm has other problems, no?
46:55
Malcolm, Malcolm, be like I didn't you didn't look at anyone
46:58
in the eye, like just looking at the ground and like other people
47:01
will like, I don't know, I guess I'll talk about it later.
47:04
But like, it might hit too close to home for some of them.
47:07
But you do some of that shit too now.
47:09
You, you. Frankie will.
47:10
Sometimes instead of going up to the door and knocking or or just
47:12
walking up, he'll tell me here. Oh yeah, yeah, that's so
47:16
convenient. Yeah, I yeah, I do find myself
47:19
doing things like that too. That that that's like my number
47:23
one if I didn't answer right away and and we're obviously
47:27
we're comfortable enough, bro, just I could be in the backyard
47:31
doing something that's all which I was doing.
47:33
I was in the backyard because I don't even want to deal with
47:35
anyone ever. I'm like, I'm like, I'm here,
47:37
let's go. Yeah, But then Carl wants to
47:41
just have a party the whole time, so not.
47:42
A party, but not this right here.
47:45
This is ideal. This is ideal.
47:47
You put a couple, you may fill this thing up.
47:49
Yeah, with some of them buds, bro.
47:50
Oh, I'm sick. Yeah.
47:53
Ho, dude, man, what a good day so far, huh?
47:57
Yeah. Today's gonna be a good day.
47:59
How long you Chick-fil-A? How long have you been doing
48:01
this, Mike? Doing what?
48:02
Well, I guess let's start with drift cars first.
48:04
Drift I. Bought my I mean I've been into
48:07
it really probably 20 years easily right now.
48:09
Holy, yeah, I bought my first one in 08 S 13 crappy car.
48:14
I had like 3 grand saved up and back then you could have bought
48:18
like a grandma like a super nice grandma car back then.
48:21
And I bought like $800 piece of shit because I was like I'm
48:24
going to buy PBM coils, I'm going to buy all this stuff.
48:27
And yet none of that happened because I ended up like it was
48:30
just such a crappy car. I didn't even know how to drive
48:31
stick. My older brother had to drive at
48:33
home for me and he barely not drive.
48:35
How old are you? I'm 33. 33 oh, so you're my age
48:38
OK and. Bro, 20 years ago, the math is
48:40
math. Yeah.
48:41
The math is like math is that's that's a little young, I think
48:44
so. You bought, you were into this
48:45
shit when you got when you got your license.
48:48
Oh absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
48:49
Once I got my, because I was like skateboarding, doing BMX
48:51
and stuff like that, like dirt jumps and stuff.
48:53
We had a local skate park. And not to mention you had risky
48:57
devil and. RIP Yeah, that helped.
48:59
That helped. Like during the blog blog era,
49:01
you. Were kind of coming up at the
49:02
same time almost. Yeah, I already had.
49:05
I was on my second S13 then. Yeah, that's crazy.
49:08
Like that picture I just posted on my story.
49:09
That car was in 2010. Yeah, and that was Origin
49:12
stream. I had an arrow hood like it was
49:14
for the time I I was just buying cool stuff and trying to build
49:18
cool cars. Like, those guys are nearing 40
49:21
right now, and you're my age. Yeah.
49:23
So it's kind of interesting that.
49:25
So they almost got into drifting a little later.
49:28
Some of them, yeah. 'Cause like Josh and Chop and
49:31
everyone, they're in the Hondas and stuff.
49:32
Yeah, that makes sense. During that time, yeah.
49:35
And. Then they got into drifting
49:36
after, but you were kind of like straight into drifting.
49:39
Yeah, that's interesting. It it would, I don't know how
49:41
like my family is into sports, like college sports and shit
49:44
like that. And I'm not.
49:45
I'm like the black sheep. Like I just liked cars and
49:48
things on wheels, bikes. You, you don't know what it came
49:50
from. I.
49:51
I I have to like, talk to my mom 'cause I really have no clue.
49:55
These deep seated I know like where did this come from?
49:58
Like am I like in trauma like hiding trauma or something
50:01
through drift cars? I I really don't know and
50:04
especially dumb this like niche of a rabbit hole of the stuff
50:07
I'm into I would say. Well, that could have just been
50:10
your personality. Like, true, you seem like you're
50:12
a perfectionist too, so maybe you like saw a certain thing and
50:15
you're like, oh, that needs to look this way.
50:16
Yeah, I always and like historic, like I like historical
50:20
things and like to me these cars, this is the spawn of it
50:24
all. So this is like everything is
50:27
derives from these cars. Do you ever think because I'm
50:30
the same way as you, do you ever think like that's almost like, I
50:33
don't know, I'm not going to say holding you back, but isn't it
50:35
kind of like because we look at these cars and we're like, we
50:38
just want to make the cars like that?
50:39
Yes, So there's kind of no evolution.
50:42
It's like true. We're kind of just.
50:44
That's where I'm at now. Yeah.
50:45
Yeah. Especially driving evolution
50:47
because I want to, I don't want to be stagnant.
50:50
I want to get better at driving. And that's tough with this car
50:53
because it's like I built into a spectacle and I want to like
50:55
keep it nice and be like like a rolling.
50:59
I don't even know what to say. Just like all the tradition.
51:02
Yeah. And obviously it's completely
51:05
set up to drift, but it's like tough, like when you want to
51:07
advance. I don't want to damage it.
51:10
I want to. So now I'm at the point where
51:12
like I'm going through the season, but do I want to build
51:15
another car that's more just track oriented or like driving
51:19
oriented dude? Lee said something about this
51:21
when we were finished with his podcast.
51:23
He goes, nostalgia holds you back, man.
51:27
It does. And I was like, damn.
51:29
OK, well, yeah, I like like this and that.
51:32
And he's like, yeah, but. I think you're you.
51:35
Carl is a mix of both because he likes all the cars like this,
51:38
but then he he, he wants to compete, he wants to be good at
51:41
driving. He loves the driving aspect.
51:43
So you could see him like fighting things in his head.
51:45
Like but I'm scared because like.
51:47
That's where I'm. Scared with that because now I'm
51:50
I'm about to go home and fucking yeah.
51:53
So like make money and do whatever.
51:55
You want, but I also want to because now that I'm doing this,
51:57
I kind of want to see how crazy I can do something really quick.
52:01
So and I have AI have a chalkboard at home waiting.
52:05
So what I'm afraid of is that I'm going to change that
52:09
mentality and I'm going to not want to just that's what RIP
52:13
around in it because I say this all the time.
52:15
But when I get behind the wheel of the car and we're drifting
52:17
like I am just there and drift, just drifting.
52:21
My brain is not doing anything, it's just drifting.
52:26
Like not worrying about the. Cars, it's not worrying about
52:27
anything else like if if we're drifting and something's broken
52:30
and and we're mid drift, the chances of me.
52:32
I think that's kind of a normal drifting mentality.
52:36
Sorry, what's his face? He's just pulled up.
52:38
Yeah. That thing is sick too.
52:39
All the gleam cars are sick. Oh my word, sorry.
52:44
Another S14 pulled up. Yo Mel, you see that one?
52:46
That one? Was it a zenke?
52:47
Yeah, it's a Zenke. Yeah, yeah, he likes Zenkeys
52:49
right there. What we're talking about, what
52:51
we're. Talking about I don't know if
52:52
Black S14 showed up and we all forgot what we were talking
52:54
about. Drifting, like, I think that's
52:56
all. I think that's a mentality we
52:58
all have. Like while you're in drift and
52:59
you're drifting, you're not really like if, if something's
53:03
breaking and you're not going to be like, oh, I need to stop.
53:05
Yeah, yeah, you're going to be like, I got to get through this
53:07
and this is part of it. But then afterwards you might
53:10
have a like reflection moment where you're like, fuck yeah,
53:14
maybe I shouldn't have been going that hard or this or you
53:17
know. But then doesn't that go back to
53:18
like your, well, not your, but this is like the if you're
53:23
driving good, then you don't shouldn't really have any
53:27
worries or any issues, right? Like you're not.
53:29
Going to Well, yes and no. I mean, shit's going to happen
53:31
either way. Yeah.
53:31
But now I feel like the driving has escalated to a such a degree
53:35
that the opportunity is definitely there for you to beef
53:40
it pretty hard. Yeah, so I mean, I wanted to say
53:43
this too. Like my car was really low at
53:45
one point. Yeah, your car is I've.
53:48
Raised the. I've raised the front up some
53:49
and especially with the. I mean are you talking about
53:52
like wheel to Fender clearance? Or everything body kit,
53:54
everything I was. Creased up some and with the 235
53:56
also helps a lot. Yeah.
53:57
Like when I look at this, I'm like, this is kind of where my
54:00
car ended up before I took it apart.
54:02
I started, like, slowly raising it up.
54:04
Yeah. And I was like, well, it still
54:05
looks good. It still looks like a low car,
54:07
especially when all the people around you are lifting them up
54:09
and putting their fists through the Fender.
54:10
Yeah. But you St. track your car is
54:13
good. You just like to drive your car
54:14
around, right? That's like the big thing for me
54:16
too. So, but like my thing now is if
54:18
I can put my foot feet, was it fit fit my foot?
54:23
If I can fit my foot under your bumper, usually with the Doc
54:26
Martin on, that's mine. That's how I judge it.
54:28
OK, but not a not a van. Oh my word, then it's good.
54:30
It's kind of like Castor in it right now also.
54:32
Yeah, I'm like, I'm usually like, OK, that's good, 'cause
54:34
then I could drive it on the street and it, I probably won't
54:36
even hear it hit anything, you know, lower than that and it's
54:38
like, you got to fucking dodge everything.
54:41
Yeah, it's getting a little difficult.
54:42
Yeah, I just especially with this kit, The kit, it's the size
54:46
of it. The front bumper is so much
54:47
bigger than the sides and rear. So like I was not happy with how
54:50
the car looked. The side profile.
54:52
Oh yeah, it was always like down, like weighted.
54:54
Down a big problem with that. Too, so I wanted the car to look
54:56
level, so the only way to do that was to to raise the front
54:59
some. And the body kits always have a
55:00
problem with that because some of them are, when you call it
55:03
raked and some of them are not raked like the end sports is not
55:05
raked at all. Yeah.
55:06
So and then you do a 1718 and the front is the wheel gap is
55:09
crazy and the back is tucking almost and you're like.
55:12
Well, that's that's an ideal for me.
55:15
Yeah, you like that, right? Yeah, he.
55:17
Likes he likes like. Not not It doesn't necessarily.
55:20
That's not the goal. It shouldn't be squatting.
55:21
It'd be great if it was level, but if the back is just tucking
55:25
a little bit, the. Back should always be the the IT
55:27
should always be closer. Obviously than the front, but
55:29
then if the front, if the car is still level and there's like
55:34
this is right here is pretty much like, yeah, this is
55:36
perfect. Yeah, this is what I'm talking
55:37
about. Right, Yeah, this is you don't.
55:39
I've raised and lowered so many times trying to like get the get
55:44
it level and sitting correctly. Dude, it's this is basically.
55:47
What? My car.
55:47
Looks like it shows though. Like I bet it's level as hell.
55:50
You know what happens when you put something a level on my car?
55:53
It's just. But what I was going to say with
55:55
that is now you can drive a little bit harder and not worry
55:59
about things and it still looks good to you.
56:01
It's kind of like you're involving at your own pace, you
56:03
know, like the car still looks like these cars, but it's slowly
56:07
it'll come up and get a little bit easier to drive and you'll
56:09
figure out ways to make it look good, so.
56:12
Yeah, because it doesn't look good to.
56:13
You I'm to the. Point where and and it's like I
56:18
do have the ability to fix anything I need to, so that's
56:21
kind of one of them. But yeah, I just want to get
56:24
like just keep driving and get better at driving now 'cause I
56:27
just like don't want to just be stagnant driving.
56:29
And of course, my best friends are my drifting best friends are
56:32
Front St. So and they're like so
56:34
motivating to me even because of that aspect, like the
56:37
determination and the drive they have.
56:39
They're motoring right now too, which is wild.
56:42
So now everyone's getting like this crazy influx of Front
56:46
Street stuff, and that is kind of wild that it kind of inspires
56:51
us all that yo, Frankie's doing stuff on his car.
56:53
Yeah, well, you always got Josh, like, yo, you got to put 265.
56:57
I'm like Josh, I'm not doing none of that shit.
56:58
Yeah. What tires in the back?
57:00
235 Iron Man right now. So eventually once I burn
57:03
through all my iron Man's, I'm going to do 651 square.
57:07
I want to try like a square tire all around.
57:09
I ran them in the rear before and they felt pretty good, like
57:11
once they got some heat into them.
57:13
Yeah, this is a. This is a good.
57:14
Set the accelerate. The accelerate 651 yes, sorry,
57:17
sorry, I had to like not the sport just like the whatever
57:19
tread wire it is. I want to try just a square
57:21
tire. It's I don't like those.
57:24
No, no, why not? Like what about?
57:26
I didn't like them at first, but once I got heat in them at A at
57:29
an event, that's when I was like, oh, these are actually
57:31
really good. So when I ran them, I like them
57:34
in the front and I think that you should run them in the
57:36
front. They're cheap.
57:37
They're cheaper and they're good and they're what I think that
57:40
you're going to like about them is because it's it's like not
57:46
the stickiest of tires, but when it's in drift, I think it's
57:50
fighting it a lot less that that follow tire.
57:53
So then it's it's really feels great smooth in the corner.
57:57
Yeah, in the rear when I had in the rear, the tires got so
58:02
greasy like right off the RIP. So then I'm like, OK, it's
58:06
probably just that top coat. So let me heat cycle them and
58:08
get it off and get another set on there and then even after I
58:12
put it back on the grip, although the wait, let me
58:16
rephrase that. The first two laps were sick.
58:19
The stickiest thing ever, like not to the point where it's
58:21
hurting the car, but feels really good.
58:24
But then after that it never was the same.
58:25
Like it went away right away and they bubble if you hit it like
58:32
hard and that's something to be where you that's St. driving.
58:34
Yeah, I had a bubble in the front.
58:38
It wasn't that big. What?
58:39
Are the roads like? Kind of just kind of just kept
58:41
it. What are the roads like?
58:42
We don't have roads. No, I'm just kidding.
58:44
No, I was, I was talking to Lewis about this.
58:46
I was comparing it to like kind of here.
58:48
It's a different pavement. I don't know what the hell the
58:50
roads are made out of. Here it's so bright.
58:52
It's been annoying. When you look at that road, it's
58:54
white. Ours is black but like it's just
58:58
as bad honestly near Chicago area.
59:00
Like the roads are fucking pretty fucking bad here.
59:02
OK, so I would say it's the same thing.
59:03
Yeah, but yeah, that's why I stayed this suburbs.
59:06
Up here over here is nice. Yeah, exactly.
59:08
Unless there's construction some or something going on, it's
59:10
pretty smooth everywhere. Yeah, I don't know what they
59:12
make it's it's got to be asphalt, right?
59:14
But I don't. Know I don't know, but just
59:16
something to be weary of though, with the 651 the bubble like and
59:20
I I do St. drive my car and I don't like to say I hit potholes
59:23
very often. That's why I was really curious
59:26
and you know, I'd be, those were new, you said just just to get
59:30
rid of that variable since everyone's like, they were
59:32
probably you, they were new. So yeah, I, I do think that you
59:37
might like the square setup though, because I've been
59:40
noticing that even with the front being really grippy, that
59:45
I'm airing it up anyway. And so now it's just a spinning
59:50
bomb. I think was it you that was
59:52
talking about running, maybe you and Josh were talking about
59:54
running a higher pressure up front.
59:56
Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, yeah, I'm at like
59:58
40PSI and he's now, I haven't drifted this car at all, but
1:00:01
I'll be interested to see dude. Yeah, see how that feels.
1:00:04
I'm curious because I wouldn't like normally lower the front
1:00:06
tire pressure. I was running the Advent level
1:00:08
before, which was I had, yeah, it was a good tire.
1:00:10
It was a really good tire, but I just, they were kind of like 300
1:00:14
plus for a pair or something like that.
1:00:15
So I was like I was in a cheap mode.
1:00:17
I didn't. So I just instead ordered 2
1:00:19
pairs of. Like Saleros no, they're they're
1:00:21
they're good. I the whole, the whole science
1:00:24
behind the PSI thing really is just like that that chase tire
1:00:29
that I mentioned or like that front tire.
1:00:31
It's like fighting it a lot less and I think that you're going to
1:00:34
like. It I think. 40 is a good number,
1:00:36
don't you know? The higher you go the crazier
1:00:40
it's going to feel in my opinion the way it snaps back because
1:00:43
the tire is now becoming a rectangle like the the sidewall
1:00:47
is at Max it's not going to hopefully bend.
1:00:50
I got a lot to learn about tires when I start drifting.
1:00:52
Dude, you're going to. You're in for it.
1:00:53
That's like a whole new. World, you have no idea.
1:00:55
Is that old stock care of 20 still?
1:00:57
Dude, it was just at 2:15 in the front, 22535 in the rear and you
1:01:01
get whatever works and then you go drift.
1:01:03
Now it's like, oh, the grip levels are not so I'm like, OK.
1:01:06
Well, no, that's. Advancing.
1:01:07
I guess I'm trying different things.
1:01:08
I mean, I never had grip. I know that.
1:01:11
Like when I was drifting, I always remember I never had
1:01:13
grip. I was always trying to keep up
1:01:15
and I couldn't and I would take all the the air out of the tire
1:01:17
like and it just couldn't do it. And that was kind of like right
1:01:20
before all the crazy tires things start happening, like
1:01:23
people making tires for drifting like it was just starting to
1:01:26
happen when when I stopped so. Isn't that wild, like making
1:01:30
tires for drifting? So like in video games when they
1:01:32
would say like tire selection and then there's like drift,
1:01:36
that's actually a tire selection.
1:01:38
Yeah, now it's real. But now they're actually grippy
1:01:41
as hell because these everyone's on this grip obsession right now
1:01:45
and like now I almost don't want to like it takes it.
1:01:49
It doesn't fully take it away, but like when it's everyone's
1:01:52
gripped up, it's not like you're just jamming anymore like
1:01:54
you're. You're.
1:01:55
Just. Add air pressure, you know,
1:01:57
that's really all all that matters.
1:01:59
But the tires seem to be way better quality.
1:02:02
Like they they wear better. They're they're meant to wear.
1:02:05
Better. Yeah, I think so that that's
1:02:07
kind of cool. And like, if you're going to St.
1:02:09
Drift and stuff like that too, like you don't want the car
1:02:10
fully hooked up. Yeah, that's kind of it.
1:02:12
Yeah, that's basically what he's.
1:02:13
That's what I'm interested in seeing with this turbo set up
1:02:15
too. Like how it's going to punch.
1:02:17
Yeah 'cause I'm like, not like I'm going to have to St. drift.
1:02:20
So it's like, yeah, 'cause. You know we have going to have
1:02:23
to St. Drift Well, you know it's going
1:02:25
to happen, so it'll be interesting to see how it like
1:02:28
the power comes on. Obviously I can turn the boost
1:02:31
down with that knob I was showing you and to get whatever
1:02:33
power I need, but. So you going link would be the
1:02:37
only thing that would convince me maybe to.
1:02:39
Do it. It's like, I mean, to me, it's
1:02:41
like, I want the brain to be like the most modern.
1:02:44
Thing I think you just don't want to damage this new engine
1:02:47
that you just yeah. Yeah, that too.
1:02:50
But it's just like when hearing and comparing, it's just like
1:02:53
how old is the link or not the link.
1:02:55
The power of CI mean. So there's no fail safes like.
1:02:58
There's no, it's not only that, but it's like I was talking to
1:03:00
the tuner and he said the only way you can tune, tune hot idle
1:03:04
is at like 80°C. And I don't even think like,
1:03:06
that's like super hot. Yeah.
1:03:08
Like, the car's never going to see that.
1:03:09
Yeah, they usually do have like cold idle problems and.
1:03:12
So yeah, I don't know. It was just easy for me.
1:03:14
Like, yeah. Hopefully it doesn't bite you
1:03:17
like we're talking all this hot stuff like watch, it's not going
1:03:20
to turn on or something like but.
1:03:22
What? No, that one old.
1:03:23
Here's an example of why I like it.
1:03:25
Dude, Mike just goes well, I showed you that little knob.
1:03:28
Yeah, yeah. Like Carl would be like.
1:03:30
This old? Yeah, I'd be over there like I'd
1:03:32
be over there. We're on grid.
1:03:33
Like I see somebody else pull up to me.
1:03:34
I'm over here. Carl would be on the highway and
1:03:36
see a hellcat in the rearview and be cranking that shit up
1:03:38
like. I'd be cranking that knob, man.
1:03:41
It doesn't beat the IS does not beat a Hellcat.
1:03:44
No, but the 392 things we're near, we're near.
1:03:49
Yeah dude. And Subaru was just.
1:03:51
Poo, I think he should put nitrous in it.
1:03:53
No, no, no, we had a conversation with dude that Lee
1:03:57
podcast really like these. These are really building off of
1:04:00
each other Now. I know it's kind of wild, but
1:04:04
his whole thing. So Lee is one of the only other
1:04:07
people that I feel like we're good.
1:04:08
That is on our list. That is more for the modern.
1:04:13
So that ZN 6 chassis to me is like the modern to Tom's car was
1:04:18
parked behind Lee's because naturally Tom was working on his
1:04:22
car. He showed up to the party.
1:04:23
Is he fixing? I don't.
1:04:25
I saw you broke this subframe. Bolt there was there was a
1:04:27
couple problems actually there was a front brake issue so he he
1:04:31
came to the shop bought brake pads right.
1:04:32
I actually do want to talk about this.
1:04:33
And, and, and he said there was some issue with the brake pads.
1:04:38
And then later on he realized he was like, he's like the brake
1:04:40
pads I bought from you. They were PMU pads for the
1:04:43
front. He's like the, he's like they're
1:04:46
so they're, they're like the heat rating is so crazy that
1:04:49
they need to be so warm in order to bite.
1:04:52
So when he's driving around the street, it's like his brakes
1:04:54
aren't even working that well. So that's like we got, we're
1:04:56
going to go on a website and like adjust the info and
1:04:59
everything just to make sure people understand because I'm
1:05:01
just like importing some of the stuff and it's like I can't even
1:05:03
read half of it. So it's like I'm trying to
1:05:05
decipher what? You just think it's a cool part.
1:05:06
Yeah, I'm like, I want to get PMU stuff because it's really
1:05:09
hard to get here. Like no one carries it.
1:05:12
So I was like trying to grab some of the brakes.
1:05:14
And then we had two of them there and we're like, OK, this
1:05:16
one's definitely a higher heat rating.
1:05:18
And Tom's like, well, final bout and be on the track and he took
1:05:22
that one. And then like, we didn't realize
1:05:25
how crazy it was, you know? So that was one of the problems.
1:05:27
And then I don't know what the other one was.
1:05:30
He said that he was driving around with his handbrake and he
1:05:35
pulled it or something. He's probably heating something
1:05:36
up right. No, the rear caliper came apart
1:05:39
or seized up. The E brake part that actually
1:05:41
turns. I think it came out and it won't
1:05:43
go back in or something like at all something like that.
1:05:45
So he had to get a caliper, but, and one of the main things that
1:05:49
he did was fucking get rid of his brake booster, which I
1:05:51
fucking hate. Yeah.
1:05:52
So he was like, Nah, it might be fine.
1:05:54
It might be fine. And then like.
1:05:56
Is that Chase base set up? Yeah, yeah.
1:05:58
So I'm. Not a fan.
1:05:59
Of you, you like the brake? Booster I love the brake
1:06:01
booster. I'm about to delete mine.
1:06:02
Of course you are the car. My dad had this like older 911.
1:06:08
It's the only car I've ever driven that didn't have a
1:06:10
booster. Like it was hard.
1:06:13
Yeah. And I only know and I found out
1:06:14
what that meant because I was on the highway and I went to stop.
1:06:17
Oh, no. And that shit, all four just and
1:06:22
I got off and like got re got back on the brake and then kind
1:06:25
of understood like whoa. Yeah, if you're comfortable with
1:06:27
it, it'll work fine, obviously. I think for left foot braking
1:06:29
it's probably going to. Be pit.
1:06:32
Yeah, just like that much and it will be consistent.
1:06:36
I feel like it's. Opposite in my head it's like I
1:06:38
really have to get on that pedal in order for it.
1:06:40
To yeah, it's like if you drive like a 55 Chevy, like I've had
1:06:43
to move those around and you're like, Oh my, like you.
1:06:46
It feels like it's not going to stop.
1:06:47
So that's what you guys are working on in the shop?
1:06:49
Like, no, no, I have driven them, we have worked on them.
1:06:52
And I had to like, move it and I was like, thought I was going to
1:06:54
put it through a wall. Yeah, 'cause you really got it.
1:06:57
Yeah, and they they didn't have boosters.
1:06:59
Like, if you have to do that, that's one thing, but there's
1:07:03
probably ways around it. So it's like, you might as well
1:07:04
just use the booster. Yeah.
1:07:05
And they rarely go bad. Like, they only go bad when you
1:07:08
have an exhaust resting on them or your timing is so retarded
1:07:12
that your shit's just getting hot as hell.
1:07:13
Yeah. That's what I'm it.
1:07:15
That's what I'm worried about with my booster.
1:07:17
Yeah, even though it's like decently far, it's all wrapped
1:07:18
and stuff. But yeah, I'm still scared the
1:07:20
brakes aren't going to work one day.
1:07:22
But OK, so before we get off that modernization topic,
1:07:25
because I'm going to wrap that one up, he's for that modern
1:07:28
stuff. Tom's car pulled up and I'm
1:07:29
looking at the FRS or BRZ or something like that and the S13
1:07:35
and I I'm like, dude, that's literally that but newer.
1:07:41
And if I blow up the one J where as Lee can go buy a long block.
1:07:46
He said brand new picked up in the box, 2 grand.
1:07:49
Oh my gosh. Isn't that?
1:07:50
Amazing. Isn't that amazing?
1:07:52
And then if I blow up MY1J, which I have not thought about
1:07:55
all season, not once until we said this, he was like that.
1:08:01
That's when he hit me with a nostalgia holds you back line.
1:08:04
He was like, I'd I'd rather just not have to worry about if I
1:08:06
blew it up. Yeah, that was his whole thing.
1:08:09
When we were there, he we were like, why did you change your
1:08:11
car? Like obviously the Mark 3 Supra
1:08:14
is kind of weird to even be running and hard to be driving
1:08:17
that car, but he was driving it for 15 years.
1:08:20
So we're like, why did you change it?
1:08:22
And he was like, what's what Carl said, He's like, this
1:08:25
shit's getting expensive. Like if I have to replace
1:08:27
anything, it's way more, way more money now.
1:08:29
And he's also like, and I kind of want to be in a nice car.
1:08:32
Absolutely. Like a modern car.
1:08:33
Yeah. So yeah, we, we were getting
1:08:36
brainwashed when we were there. We.
1:08:37
My car we see in this car. Oh yeah, and I removed it for
1:08:40
that damn waste skate. Oh no.
1:08:42
Yeah, just. Like, yeah, it's like, damn.
1:08:45
That's kind of a. That's how.
1:08:46
That's how much I wanted to run this setup.
1:08:48
I feel like there probably is another way, but it's.
1:08:52
Cheyenne was telling me to do I could do like electric AC or
1:08:54
something like that but I don't care or.
1:08:56
Not, I mean the wastegate, like even looking at like there was,
1:08:59
we were thinking about running it around the steering column,
1:09:02
but like removing it and everything is going to be a
1:09:03
nightmare. And then still going down,
1:09:06
going. Yeah, basically running the
1:09:07
runner around the steering column somehow and putting the
1:09:10
wastegate like right under it, but then it looked like it was
1:09:13
too close to the ground. It would be Teddy.
1:09:15
Teddy is running the weight. You know Teddy, he's running
1:09:18
that wastegate on on a right hand drive car and he said it
1:09:22
was like hitting. Yeah, so.
1:09:24
We're in the in the correct location, yeah.
1:09:26
OK, yeah, my my thing was I knew I wasn't gonna have AC in the
1:09:29
car, so I was like, I don't care if it goes there, but then.
1:09:31
It's a perfect spot, Yeah, it's like the only spot.
1:09:34
It is a perfect spot. It's so much room.
1:09:36
For it and the engine looks sick out of the car like we because
1:09:39
it's been out of the car for so long.
1:09:40
So everyone comes up like what the fuck is going on?
1:09:41
Here. What is that?
1:09:42
Damn. Yeah, Pineapple.
1:09:44
It's huge. It's like what?
1:09:45
Huge. Grenade And then you got like
1:09:47
people like Jimmy Oaks and other people who run links and every
1:09:50
they're like, what kind of ancient fuck the way shit.
1:09:52
That that big. Yeah, they're like, dude, get
1:09:54
rid of this shit. I hope this turbo is worth it
1:09:56
because. Like the TDO 6. 100.
1:09:59
Percent that AC in this Imagine you're driving, all the windows
1:10:02
are closed. I know it would be crazy.
1:10:04
You don't even know who the hell.
1:10:05
Is never like I never That's The thing is like I have to tell
1:10:07
people I didn't really use it that much because like I enjoy
1:10:10
driving with the windows down and stuff like that.
1:10:12
So it's like. It's nice when you rare that I
1:10:15
even used it. Yeah, it was more of a flex,
1:10:17
Yeah. It was more of like, Oh yeah, I
1:10:19
VC, like I didn't really use it that much and like, I just drove
1:10:23
it. Were you guys here when it was
1:10:25
like really hot these last two days?
1:10:27
Monday and Tuesday was like. Monday and Tuesday we got lucky.
1:10:30
We weren't. Here I was wearing.
1:10:31
I drove. This car around then and it's
1:10:32
like, yeah, it's warm, but it I'm not like miserable.
1:10:36
I was happy to just be in the car.
1:10:38
Exactly. So.
1:10:39
And one, I remember one of the things for me, because I was
1:10:41
always thinking about, I was like, I could put AC in the car,
1:10:42
should I do that? But the two things were heat on
1:10:46
the track. I'm like, it's going to get
1:10:47
hotter no matter what with the condenser up there.
1:10:49
And then I also was like, I want to see that Coyo fucking logo on
1:10:52
there. Yeah.
1:10:52
OK. OK.
1:10:53
So that's where I'm going to stop you because I also had the
1:10:56
same thought. So I pulled the condenser out of
1:10:59
the Bay when I was going to put the coyo rad in.
1:11:02
And as soon as I put the coyo rad in, I'm looking at it and
1:11:05
I'm like, I guess we're going to delete the AC now because I'm
1:11:09
not putting this on good shit back in here.
1:11:11
And then I took all the lines off.
1:11:12
And then now that I think about it, I do drive around with my
1:11:15
window. I don't really use it.
1:11:17
Because you're enjoying the car like.
1:11:19
We'll do now, yeah, like it's sitting there.
1:11:23
Yeah, hole. And when you have this
1:11:24
wastegate. Yeah.
1:11:26
Dude, I can't. It's crazy problem.
1:11:28
Yeah, like getting giddy as hell over this.
1:11:30
Way now he drives things wait till he drives.
1:11:32
It Josh always sends me stuff too.
1:11:34
He's like, he always sends me like sound clips from like
1:11:36
Japanese cars. Yeah, people were doing the RX
1:11:38
series turbo and everything like and he's like, yo look, he just
1:11:40
sends it to me. Yeah, like trying to give me.
1:11:42
AI would find a way to, you know, Teddy's.
1:11:44
I think it's his brother Zach with the S13.
1:11:47
His RX logo fell off because they're just glued on, whereas
1:11:51
this the L2 is riveted. When it falls off, I'll glue one
1:11:54
of those. Absolutely.
1:11:56
I was going to get an RX, and because it's huge to buy them,
1:11:59
because I had to have this thing rebuilt, ceramic coated, like
1:12:03
completely serviced to make it new billet wheel installed.
1:12:07
And yeah, I could have just bought an RX, yeah.
1:12:10
But no, I wanted that stupid badge.
1:12:11
Yeah, the blue one, yeah. That's cool, I was gonna get an
1:12:14
RX and do the same thing, but then I was gonna have to buy a
1:12:17
TDO 6, another turbo probably to get that badge.
1:12:20
Yeah, I never thought about that stuff because I was always AT28
1:12:23
guy. I never really cared.
1:12:24
Yeah. And then all of a sudden I was
1:12:26
like, all right, I got it. I did a 2.2.
1:12:28
I'm not. There was a moment where we were
1:12:30
like, oh, let's put T20 back on it.
1:12:31
And once like, what are you thinking?
1:12:33
And I was like, I don't care, I just need to build my engine.
1:12:36
And but I was like, OK, there's no way I can do that.
1:12:38
So what am I going to do you? Kind of are at an important
1:12:41
crossroads right now because although you're chatting all
1:12:44
this dude, because now every single time we talk to somebody,
1:12:47
dude and I tell them like, yeah, go to Power FC waiting at home
1:12:50
because right now I'm on a stock ECU.
1:12:52
I love my stock ECU. I turn it on every other so
1:12:55
often now and just turns on Yeah, and I know that there's
1:13:00
gonna be a time not gonna be, but hopefully there's not a time
1:13:03
where you go to turn it on and it's not supposed to turn on and
1:13:05
it does. You know what I mean?
1:13:07
Like there's something wrong where a link would be like woo
1:13:10
dear buddy. Yeah, that's what you're saying.
1:13:14
Now, now, now we got Mike well talking about this and you're
1:13:17
about for. Me, it was a no brainer.
1:13:18
As much as I love the old school stuff, I was I'm I'm doing link.
1:13:21
I was not a power FC, was not even in my thoughts.
1:13:24
I could see myself going to it later, but I'm definitely going
1:13:26
to run for at least a year. I get it, skinny D did took a
1:13:30
power FC commander, did you see this?
1:13:32
Oh I already had an argument dude.
1:13:33
That was one of the biggest. Ghost just opened up that.
1:13:37
Was one of the that was one of the biggest.
1:13:39
He, he speckled dorked me, dude. Like, he he he he duped me.
1:13:43
Yeah. Because the whole time I knew
1:13:46
that car. I didn't know Dan yet.
1:13:48
OK, I knew the car. I knew I had a one Ji knew I had
1:13:51
red seats and a vertex kit. Like, I like all of those
1:13:54
things. Yeah.
1:13:56
And I seen the commander. So I'm like, Oh my gosh, he got
1:13:59
his one J to have a power seat in his IS.
1:14:02
So this is a thing that can happen.
1:14:04
I want to do this. This has to.
1:14:05
Happen. So that was really what?
1:14:07
Yeah, because all the faction team has a commander, Commander,
1:14:09
commander, commander, commander. And I bought the commander from
1:14:13
Nick. I was so happy.
1:14:15
I'd be pulling that thing out the box and.
1:14:17
Then we found out and then I then I contacted Pexy directly
1:14:19
and they're like, yeah, you should get a link, yeah.
1:14:22
No way. No, no, no.
1:14:23
But that's not even it. He's like, that shit's going to
1:14:25
be a headache. Oh my, 'cause you have.
1:14:27
To run 2 EC us like in in tandem.
1:14:29
No, no, not, not in mine, baby. Oh no.
1:14:31
We hit it with the Chris special.
1:14:33
Yeah. That's why you have to.
1:14:35
But then why? Why aren't you running it?
1:14:37
It was just easier that way, But but that I got the power C and
1:14:44
then when I finally met Dan, I was like, yo, I'm running a
1:14:47
power C because I saw you're on one like and he's like, I never
1:14:52
run that shit. And I'm like, what?
1:14:57
Like what's that? He's like I it's a link whatever
1:15:01
you call command screen. Command.
1:15:02
Oh, it's a Yeah, I. Don't O LED.
1:15:04
The the whatever the readout is. Oh, it's like a can bus gauge.
1:15:08
I think a can bus gauge in the commander.
1:15:10
The commander and I went from like laughing to like he got
1:15:15
dude, what the heck man? Alright, but that's perfect
1:15:19
right there if you think about it.
1:15:20
I said that too on the podcast. I was like, yo link, if you make
1:15:22
a commander and it's cool, we'll just run that.
1:15:25
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
1:15:26
Dan did that. In a way, can he?
1:15:28
Can he use the buttons? I don't think anything in there
1:15:31
like it needs to work. Like it needs to work.
1:15:33
I'm not putting some prop in there.
1:15:34
I remember when Joshua proceed had the he had the one J in his
1:15:37
car and he just put the commander in there.
1:15:39
Really. He didn't didn't turn on my
1:15:41
commander didn't need that there.
1:15:42
My commander's literally in the car doesn't turn on.
1:15:45
Yeah, just the just the thing. So funny.
1:15:49
Dude, I was, I was so obsessed with running The Power of Sea
1:15:51
that I'm like, I was like, yo, let's get individual exhaust
1:15:54
temp gauges for every runner. Oh my gosh.
1:15:57
I'm still going to do it. Oh, really?
1:15:59
Yeah, I think it's going to be. Funny why she can have like 10
1:16:01
gauges. I'm not going to do, I'm not
1:16:02
going to put them. I'm probably going to put them
1:16:04
in the glove box, but it'll just make cylinder 123 like insane.
1:16:07
Just have like all these gauges everywhere.
1:16:08
You can't even do anything with them on the car seat.
1:16:11
Yeah, it's just on the brain. I got to make sure this thing's
1:16:13
running right because it won't. There's no fail safes.
1:16:16
But you see. Shit like that when you look in.
1:16:17
Magazines I saw. Yeah.
1:16:18
No, not the magazines. Yeah, I saw yesterday.
1:16:22
Yeah, I don't know whose car it is.
1:16:24
Fuck, but they had so many gauges.
1:16:26
I was like damn. And I think, and it's funny.
1:16:29
Because most of modern EC US you don't need any of them.
1:16:31
I think now what's weird is that as I get older, I looked at the
1:16:35
gauges and I was like, that's fucking like $3000 worth of
1:16:38
gauges. What the heck?
1:16:40
I said it, I said it before. I want my I want my car to run
1:16:42
like a 1950s, like P51 or something.
1:16:45
Oh, really? Yeah.
1:16:46
I want to, I want to have to look at everything and be like,
1:16:48
you know, I'm the one that's making sure this isn't going to
1:16:50
blow up. Yeah.
1:16:51
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly dude, yo, that
1:16:53
little Amazon switch panel, because there was a, it's on one
1:16:56
ECU because I told Chris I'm like, that's it, Yeah, if it
1:17:00
doesn't run with what we're trying to do, put it to this,
1:17:03
that's it. I wanted to go well.
1:17:04
You just wanted to drive the car.
1:17:05
And yeah, now, but now when I get in, I get to go, yeah.
1:17:10
But maybe in winter you set up the power of sea.
1:17:12
I just have to plug it in. And get a tune.
1:17:15
And get the tune. Yeah, OK.
1:17:16
That's like one of the most important things.
1:17:18
Yeah, but no, Yeah, I I look at that fighter pilot thing that
1:17:22
you're talking about and I get it.
1:17:23
It's stupid. And I know it's not dumb because
1:17:27
Oh well, it might be dumb because I like it, but I bought
1:17:30
like a Dymo label maker because on in the planes it says like
1:17:34
drunk. Yeah, like, you know what I'm
1:17:36
saying? So I wanted it to to look like
1:17:38
that. And also like older Porsche's
1:17:40
had those too, like race cars there.
1:17:42
I got to figure out a label maker.
1:17:43
I. Got to figure out a layout for
1:17:45
the glove box 'cause we, we made, we actually made a AFR
1:17:48
gauge mount for the glove box, but we never had it produced
1:17:51
yet. Oh, but it looks awesome and it
1:17:54
hides it 'cause you know, the AFR gauges are always ugly.
1:17:56
So. Yeah, that was my problem.
1:17:58
Yeah, so we made this nice setup, but now it's like fuck,
1:18:01
I'm running 27 fucking EGR gauges.
1:18:03
So, yeah, and you always find that when you're looking at old
1:18:05
gauges on Yahoo Japan and everything, you always see the
1:18:08
EGR gauge. You're like, yeah, do they
1:18:09
really use that shit? And it's like.
1:18:11
That's why it's the only one for sale still.
1:18:12
Or EGT? Yeah, like exactly like they're
1:18:15
just they didn't have AFR gauges like they were using the exhaust
1:18:18
gas temp gauge as. A as a tune as Yeah, as a as a
1:18:21
statistic. Yeah, as how hot is is the
1:18:23
cylinder running? I've cause I've tried finding
1:18:25
like I was trying to find like air specific AFR gauge and.
1:18:28
I yeah, I didn't know what they're running.
1:18:30
There's that one. That's is it greedy or is it
1:18:33
Tomei or some shit? The VLS.
1:18:35
It's one with like 3 needles on it but I heard it's like doesn't
1:18:39
work well. Yeah, I didn't know that.
1:18:41
They do exist, but I don't know how it works.
1:18:43
Like I don't know if it's even a wide band.
1:18:45
ASR gauge is on my commander. Mine has a AFR readout on mine.
1:18:52
That's weird. It says AF Yeah.
1:18:54
Maybe because yeah, because it's a Jay-Z and the ECU might have.
1:18:59
I don't do that. Don't look at me for
1:19:01
confirmation right now. RFC people, I always see them
1:19:03
just worry about their knock. They're like.
1:19:05
All my knocks, yeah, they're just.
1:19:06
Looking at their knock. Because it's cool, you can
1:19:08
actually see what it's picking. Up.
1:19:09
It's like the only thing they look at.
1:19:11
But. I don't want that feeling, bro.
1:19:13
I don't. I almost want that.
1:19:14
There there. Is one because.
1:19:15
If I can just idle, imagine just idling and that shit you just
1:19:18
see like a. It does it does that it goes and
1:19:21
you'll be like there was one time like we talked about this
1:19:25
the other day, I think, but I cracked my oil pan somewhere.
1:19:29
I caught it, but I guess I caught it late.
1:19:31
I fixed it, drove home, drove for another week or two and then
1:19:33
we went out St. drifting and all of a sudden I got rod knock and
1:19:37
we're like all in this spot and like we stop and I get out.
1:19:40
I'm like what the fuck is that? And I'm like, oh, fuck.
1:19:43
And I'm like, yo, what do you think that is?
1:19:45
And Justin was like, yeah, that's fucking rod knock.
1:19:47
And and I'm like, Nah, maybe it's not.
1:19:48
Maybe it's just like my exhaust is hitting something like I'm
1:19:51
just in denial and and I'm like, no, I'm just going to drive it
1:19:54
home. I was like 10 minutes from home
1:19:56
or less. And I I remember getting on the
1:19:58
highway and you hear it like and.
1:20:01
That was a really good knock sound.
1:20:03
Yeah, And I'm like, OK, I get on the highway and I'm getting on
1:20:06
the Parkway off Route 17 and I looked down at the fucking knock
1:20:10
reading and it's just bouncing off the thing like with the
1:20:12
noise. And I'm like, and I just filmed
1:20:14
it for Snapchat or something. I remember I was like, well,
1:20:16
let's see what happens. And it blew up on the Parkway
1:20:18
before I got home. Oh man.
1:20:20
And that was it. That was.
1:20:20
Like the motor seized? Yeah.
1:20:22
Literally it locked up the wheels, everything.
1:20:24
Holy. Yeah, just like I was like, oh
1:20:26
fuck pull. Over Oh shit is that?
1:20:28
The same motor you have now. No.
1:20:30
So that motor that happened to that motor, and it was funny
1:20:34
because it was actually right before what I believe was the
1:20:38
second Christmas video that we did.
1:20:40
So we were like, we had it all planned already, but now I have
1:20:43
no fucking car. And they're like, so we had to
1:20:46
just throw an engine together. We got random Pistons, rods,
1:20:50
everything. We had new bearings, but we just
1:20:54
threw this fucking engine together and ran it.
1:20:57
That engine had low oil pressure, but we ran it for the
1:21:01
video. It'd last a couple months, but
1:21:04
the at idle you'd see occasionally see the light
1:21:07
flicker like a little bit and I'd be like, did I see that?
1:21:10
Like you think you're seeing things.
1:21:11
I'm actually nervous as hell because now I'm just literally
1:21:14
going to be driving like this. Yeah, but then I was like OK,
1:21:17
it's definitely a problem. So we took it apart.
1:21:19
I think I sold it as is like low oil pressure, whatever.
1:21:22
And then the last one was the nicest 1 I ever got, but then I
1:21:28
ran it too hot. I was drifting with Josh at
1:21:30
English Town and I was looking at a temp gauge and I was like
1:21:32
it's way too hot and I kept going and it fucking detonation.
1:21:35
Damn. Yeah.
1:21:36
So how far is English town from you?
1:21:38
40 minutes. Which?
1:21:39
I'd say. That's so nice.
1:21:41
Yeah, I'm kind of realizing that to a lot of people that doesn't.
1:21:44
That's not to mention it's. In my opinion, one of the best,
1:21:47
if not the best drifting tracks in America.
1:21:49
Absolutely, and you can go there any day of the week.
1:21:52
At this rate, pretty much not. Not any day, but yeah, pretty
1:21:55
much. That's kind of the thing that is
1:21:58
unappealing to me in US air. It's just it is 3 hours away and
1:22:03
like the amount of D days they have or like it's like the
1:22:05
amount of people signing up now because of how popular it is.
1:22:08
It's just tough. Do you think you guys are going
1:22:10
to get another track? Like somebody, somebody's got to
1:22:13
be cooking. Yeah, you would hope so.
1:22:15
I think so, though it's getting so popular that I think.
1:22:18
I mean, how long are they going to do final bout there?
1:22:21
Like it's just so many people. Yeah like it's not big enough.
1:22:24
So I. Can't even imagine what this
1:22:26
weekend's going to be like. Crazy.
1:22:27
We've been hearing crazy numbers.
1:22:29
We heard at one point we heard 100 drivers, 110 drivers.
1:22:31
We were like what? Jesus.
1:22:34
Oh my gosh, Joe Mike just got 10. 1000 it's like the amount of
1:22:37
spectators and stuff too is going to be wild, yeah.
1:22:40
Dude, where are we going to sit bro?
1:22:42
Who's that? Is that Eric?
1:22:43
Yeah, Eric Ryan. He's in the corner.
1:22:44
Oh my God, it is Eric Ryan. He shut up.
1:22:47
He's repping. He's got.
1:22:48
Factions. He's got the faction team.
1:22:49
I almost. Put my faction shirt on.
1:22:51
Dude, we had we had our podcast with Chab and he can't comes
1:22:55
outside. I don't know why people I don't.
1:22:57
I still don't know why people think that there's beef, but
1:23:01
he's wearing a goodish shirt and he goes, Oh my bad, let me go
1:23:04
change. Yeah, he literally was like oh
1:23:06
shit, let me change my shirt. My my bad, my bad.
1:23:08
I was like, you don't have to change your shirt.
1:23:09
I was hoping he was he was kidding.
1:23:11
But then he went to his truck and I was like, yo, yeah, like
1:23:14
you. Don't change your.
1:23:15
Shirt man I I literally have a good shirt in my in my.
1:23:18
You wore Yeah. I got one in my suitcase on me.
1:23:20
I like that shirt like, you know.
1:23:22
We want to do one with Palmer. We've been trying to for years
1:23:24
now, but it's just never works out because you get to the track
1:23:27
and you're like everyone's running around, everyone has a
1:23:29
job to do, yeah. I definitely was not asking him
1:23:31
this time. Dude, I'm so excited to see him
1:23:33
all drive together. I was not.
1:23:35
Yeah, we, yeah. I didn't ask him either.
1:23:36
I was like, let's just, I was. So I'm so happy for them, dude.
1:23:39
Like, you know, you know what, that feeling's probably pretty
1:23:43
sweet. He.
1:23:45
Always does this, but I want. To drive with Frankie so bad,
1:23:48
dude. It's coming.
1:23:49
It's. Coming like because I like IA
1:23:52
lot of people think I work at faction for like the I don't
1:23:56
know what episode number that's going to be.
1:23:57
It's going to be like 119. Damn, I don't work there.
1:24:01
I just I like hanging out there and these are my friends and
1:24:05
this is my team and like I want us to be a team because I would
1:24:10
watch Frankie before just watching him.
1:24:12
Oh my, just through a window or something or no, but like I'm
1:24:16
going to club loose and I see the cars go by and I'm like,
1:24:19
that's pretty sick. So like, if I get to be a part
1:24:22
of that now, that'd be sick. Yeah, I just got a mess.
1:24:25
Couple messing the. Fuck up because having someone,
1:24:28
I said it's to Malcolm a couple months ago.
1:24:30
I think I was like, I don't even think I said it's Carl, but I
1:24:34
was like seeing oh, I said it to Princess.
1:24:36
We were talking and I said I need to hurry up with my car
1:24:41
because right now is a pinnacle moment because Carl is very into
1:24:48
drifting. He's good, he's getting really
1:24:50
good. And thank you.
1:24:51
And he, he's very dedicated and I'm having a drift team in this.
1:24:56
We'll go into another conversation with this because
1:24:58
have meetings like people like that and all being able to do
1:25:01
the same thing and rely on them is not easy.
1:25:04
No. So it's like I need to hurry up
1:25:06
because now is the time because everyone's like he's into it.
1:25:10
I know our other friends that are out of it right now will get
1:25:12
back into it once we're all driving.
1:25:14
So it's like I'm going to miss this opportunity.
1:25:16
Bro I I run BN sports for your ass.
1:25:19
Yeah, so just how we get a BN kid.
1:25:21
Just so that we can match. Yeah.
1:25:23
Because I do see, dude, when I see you guys cars, OK, they're
1:25:28
not all the same. Yeah, yeah.
1:25:30
But they vibe with each other and they just look sick.
1:25:34
I think Gleam was my number one inspiration for not having the
1:25:37
same colored cars. Awesome.
1:25:39
Everyone that I saw, you guys were the that was the switch
1:25:42
that went off. I was like I don't want to have
1:25:44
the same. Car, yeah, it doesn't have to be
1:25:45
that way. I don't know why people took
1:25:46
that like one thing of team drifting and ran with it, Yeah.
1:25:49
Because it was always like, oh, you got the same car.
1:25:51
I'm glad we got that out of the way very early because we did
1:25:54
that in like final about two era and we did it.
1:25:56
We ran it like 3-4 years and then we were just like, let's
1:26:01
let's do different colors. But by that point Justin was out
1:26:03
of drifting and then Scott moved and everyone's falling apart.
1:26:06
So now the rebirth is going to be everyone has a different
1:26:10
color, but they're very similar. Cohesive.
1:26:12
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
1:26:13
Dude, the diversity quota crazy faction's going to come back.
1:26:17
Yeah, the. Faction's going to come back and
1:26:19
it's going to be like where that guy looked a little different
1:26:23
before, like what's going on here?
1:26:26
Like, but no dude, that that and but going off of what you said,
1:26:30
you guys have been around for a long time now too.
1:26:33
Yeah, which is crazy. It's probably nuts to be able to
1:26:36
think back then. How long many years did you say
1:26:40
it was, would you say? We've been driving since the
1:26:42
first final bout. We've.
1:26:44
Yeah. Have you been to every single
1:26:47
one? Yeah, this is the only one I'm
1:26:48
going to miss. Well, that's OK.
1:26:49
We're going to start the car. We're going to drive it, take
1:26:51
it. That's pain.
1:26:52
Take it you. Got to bring it up.
1:26:53
Come on. You could take it, no.
1:26:55
You're not taking your car to fond of that.
1:26:56
Why not shut the fuck? You are.
1:26:58
You are coming, right? Yeah, okay.
1:27:01
He's coming, but he might leave the car.
1:27:03
Yeah. That's okay, I heard the
1:27:05
reasoning. Yeah, I'm okay.
1:27:07
I just want the car to like last as long as possible.
1:27:10
Now this. I took it apart in November of
1:27:13
last year. This has been the longest I've
1:27:15
gone without drifting in over 10 years.
1:27:17
Whoa. Yeah.
1:27:18
And it's. Yeah.
1:27:19
How does it feel I'm. So fun to get back into it or
1:27:22
being without it. Without it, It sucked.
1:27:24
Yeah, yeah. I found myself being like really
1:27:25
bitter about stuff and and stuff like that.
1:27:29
Just resent it was nice to take. Time, I mean, I guess it was
1:27:31
nice to. I was obviously we had the baby,
1:27:33
so I was there was a lot of focus on that, but I was like,
1:27:36
this is my main hobby. Yeah.
1:27:37
So I was like still spending money and stuff like that.
1:27:39
But it gets to a point where like with building the car, but
1:27:43
like, just got annoying having to spend money, you know, you're
1:27:47
like, oh, I got to buy this now. Yeah.
1:27:49
So. It's kind of where I'm not that
1:27:51
and that's not where I'm at right now in the season.
1:27:53
But like since my car's kind of broken in tiny ways, I'm like,
1:27:59
OK, I'll just let that sit now because I don't want to spend
1:28:03
money on it, but I'm not going to.
1:28:05
It's not going anywhere. So I'm like, I'll just move it
1:28:07
further down the line of like priority.
1:28:11
I'd like to do other stuff, the bodywork thing like but.
1:28:13
No one's worried about you, Carl.
1:28:14
You're gonna work on your car. You're gonna get it done.
1:28:15
Yeah, you're just. Like time crazy.
1:28:17
Yeah, I'm a book time theme dude.
1:28:19
He's. Just the painting thing is what
1:28:20
you're focusing. On which I'm having fun.
1:28:22
Yeah, because now I'm about to do my shit and it's gonna be
1:28:24
sick. Sick.
1:28:25
Yeah, I have a demo car. Yes, yeah, that's kind of what I
1:28:27
want. We gotta get, we gotta get the
1:28:29
van painted too, so. Bro no, no not to be able yo
1:28:33
with this actually my fan's gonna be way nice.
1:28:35
I just. Don't know how you're gonna
1:28:36
paint the roof? Don't you worry about that dude
1:28:40
on the just. Carl like being hung by like a
1:28:43
little thing on the. On the JZX.
1:28:45
I had Mission Impossible, the roof.
1:28:46
On the JZXI needed to be like 2 inches taller to get the perfect
1:28:52
like. You got to get the little stilts
1:28:54
with the like. Oh, like the drywallers or
1:28:56
whatever they no. No, no, this, this was.
1:28:58
You're going to love this. I have two long 2 by sixes.
1:29:03
And you just walk on it. That's all I needed dude.
1:29:05
I put him right there on the side of of the car and like it
1:29:08
just gave me that extra. Yeah.
1:29:10
You can put him between like 5 gallon buckets or something.
1:29:13
Holy crap, imagine I just. Take that's what I was thinking
1:29:16
with the stilts. You're just walking around and
1:29:18
you just oh shit and fall over the hood.
1:29:22
Dude, like I, I just, I don't know, it's, it's, it's weird
1:29:25
because I, we had another painter Eddie on the on our on
1:29:29
the podcast and like. That's great.
1:29:31
Even him explaining how the paint builds cuz I think what it
1:29:36
the illustration he used to me was like paints like this right?
1:29:40
Oh yeah. And then you like wanna fill
1:29:43
those with that. And then in my head I'm like, is
1:29:46
that really how it works? Yeah, it was hard for me to
1:29:49
grasp that. He's a production he does at a
1:29:51
Body Shop. Yeah, I would say.
1:29:53
Yeah. So it's production, Yeah.
1:29:54
I don't know if they do like a lot of insurance stuff, but
1:29:57
because they're a little smaller I feel like he's the only
1:29:59
painter there or one or two. I don't know.
1:30:01
Yeah. What was it like when you had
1:30:02
the operation here? Like did you work out of here
1:30:05
was? It.
1:30:05
No, no. I've always kept my main job.
1:30:07
OK yeah. So I was coming home, you know,
1:30:09
having to do this on the side and stuff like that, which was
1:30:12
wares on you. That's true.
1:30:14
And then also. So I had two drift cars in here.
1:30:16
I had both of our dailies I had, I had a 1978 F 252, so it's a
1:30:22
big fucking truck. So I was having move everything
1:30:25
out, you know, my cars were sitting outside while I had the
1:30:28
cars in here I was working on. It was just a lot.
1:30:30
Where were you? Prepping in here or, or I would
1:30:34
do like I would do like bumpers and stuff right out this door
1:30:37
because I have my little compressor.
1:30:39
He's like electric DA or something.
1:30:40
Like that when you prep in your spray space is that affect?
1:30:45
I use a leaf blower. I sweep and use a leaf blower
1:30:48
and blow everything out and let it settle.
1:30:50
Or is smart. Fuck, do you spray the floor or
1:30:52
whatever they tell? You to do I've wet it down and
1:30:54
squeegeed it but yeah, people do wet floors I.
1:30:56
Paper I go with the paper route mainly just cuz I can wet it.
1:31:01
Nothing's stopping me from wet it, it's just, I don't know, I
1:31:04
just don't want big damp box because like we have a big
1:31:07
insect problem. Because humidity in the suburbs,
1:31:10
we'll mess with the paint. That too.
1:31:11
I've seen people they people use carpet and carpet.
1:31:14
And then they vacuum it really quick.
1:31:16
Yo, you know who you should follow or look into?
1:31:17
I think we talked about this Kevin fan from Boss Town in.
1:31:21
Oh yeah. Yeah, that area, he always had a
1:31:24
crazy set up in his house. It's probably a lot of like tips
1:31:27
and tricks for that shit. Dude, I'm part of this Facebook
1:31:30
group that Diego told me to join.
1:31:32
Yeah, homemade restoration or homemade restoration and
1:31:39
bodywork or something like that. Awesome.
1:31:42
And they're the most helpful people in there.
1:31:44
It's like this guy, you would think that somebody at least in
1:31:49
our scene would get dragged by this.
1:31:51
It's like a tent and it was like right next to his house, middle
1:31:56
of the backyard type of beat. There's no walls on it.
1:31:59
He's got like this big, those big circle fans that you would
1:32:02
see to to dry something like the floor or something.
1:32:04
And it's just pointing out. He's like, hey guys, getting
1:32:07
ready to do my first job. Do you guys have any tips and
1:32:09
tricks, comments? I go right to him because
1:32:12
there's a lot of them go write to him.
1:32:14
Everyone's supportive, helping him perfect like telling him
1:32:17
like maybe try this in the meantime.
1:32:19
I know this can't be like a permanent thing, but this might
1:32:22
help you like maybe cover the floor, maybe put a drop cloth
1:32:25
that goes all the way to the floor or some sort of tip.
1:32:28
These are. All people that actually do.
1:32:30
Shit. Yeah.
1:32:31
And like, and giving them confidence, too.
1:32:33
Like picture of the work. I sprayed this outside.
1:32:37
You know, sometimes those are the best you're.
1:32:41
Using wax and grease remover before you spray.
1:32:43
I use I use spray way and flash it off like I'll wait.
1:32:47
Tack cloth that's. Yeah, yeah.
1:32:50
Good. I use.
1:32:52
I use that spray way period to. Like, that stuff's the best
1:32:55
walk. Around.
1:32:56
Is that the end? It's the glass cleaner glass.
1:32:58
It's like in the blue. Cap ammonia free, it's great.
1:33:00
Yeah, that's the stuff we use at work also.
1:33:02
It's perfect. And then I'll, that's like I
1:33:05
walk around cuz every time at work I still work in the office,
1:33:08
OK, every time I work, I'll turn it on like some sort of body
1:33:11
work channel. Dude, they they're really
1:33:14
spraying that shit with something.
1:33:16
The wax and grease remover. Like crazy though, I'm like,
1:33:18
damn, they writing that shit off like the yeah, I can't just be
1:33:22
doing that. So I like how spray weighs in an
1:33:23
aerosol. Like I can kind of make it as
1:33:26
efficient as are you. Getting any fish eyes or any
1:33:28
problems like that? Not really, I try to prime stuff
1:33:33
as soon as I see it's like a deviation and like I guess what
1:33:36
I would think is the is the surface.
1:33:39
Like when I did the JZXI had that M sports hood, a
1:33:41
replacement Fender, the bumpers are all fiberglass.
1:33:44
So I primered all of those and the rest of it I scuffed because
1:33:46
it was beautiful. I don't know why.
1:33:48
Yeah, I know. I talked to him.
1:33:49
The other. Day bro.
1:33:50
It was a beautiful 6:00 and 9:00.
1:33:52
So it's Ebony teal Toyota Chaser.
1:33:56
Like green is like black. It's like, I want to do it in
1:33:58
black. I'm like, dude, fucking looks.
1:34:00
It's so nice. We did it in black and it was my
1:34:02
first black car and there was no fish eyes, but I did run it a
1:34:06
little wet and then we cut and buffed it and it looked
1:34:10
phenomenal. I was.
1:34:12
Just it's good because usually a lot of people lay it dry because
1:34:14
they can't like get the right visual.
1:34:16
Like they don't know how to use the light to lay the clear down
1:34:18
correctly. It took me a while to understand
1:34:21
it, but like now when I'm looking at it, you can almost
1:34:24
see it do that and there's like a sweet window there that I in
1:34:28
my I call it window, but I'm like fuck move like go like
1:34:33
next, like make sure your overlap is not right there.
1:34:36
Again, you better like go. I don't know, it's it's just
1:34:40
fun. I never thought that I would
1:34:42
like it this much. I, I did, like, I, I find myself
1:34:46
thinking about how this could have happened and like, I guess
1:34:50
we were fucking around with spray paint and stuff like that
1:34:52
and like just painting stuff and like now it just fucking
1:34:55
escalated. That's how it started for me as
1:34:56
well. I was like my, you remember my
1:34:58
red hatch I built? It was like super low on origin
1:35:01
aggressive. Aggressive.
1:35:04
It was. I built that car in a park in a
1:35:07
parking lot I was living in at the time we were at.
1:35:09
We spray painted that and that's fun in the parking lot.
1:35:11
It came out pretty good. So many people have stories of
1:35:14
building cars and. So like my friends I was good
1:35:17
friends with through high school, their dad was the the GM
1:35:20
of the shop I now work at and he's like, you guys, you're like
1:35:22
messing with cars. Do you want to just come work at
1:35:24
the shop? So I started out cleaning cars,
1:35:27
cleaning up the shop, work my way up and now?
1:35:30
What you're doing Like what are the crucial components of fixing
1:35:34
cars? The shop Like what?
1:35:36
And it's like the morals aspect of it too.
1:35:38
Like you want to put a safe car back on the road.
1:35:40
Yeah. You know I.
1:35:41
OK, so if if we're talking about like more of the moral aspect of
1:35:44
it, like when people when I think of somebody bringing me
1:35:47
something for paint, sometimes it's not just like a little BS
1:35:52
or bumper for disguise project or her project.
1:35:55
It's like they made that car and they're going to you now to
1:36:02
finish it up. Yeah, like it's like a tune.
1:36:04
It's like the last to make it that final step.
1:36:07
So that first car I ever did that the green S14, I see like
1:36:12
where I messed up a little bit of it.
1:36:14
There's modeling in the the metallics and stuff and there's
1:36:17
dry spots and that. Could be the gun, it could be a
1:36:20
drop. Coat, I think it was.
1:36:21
Yeah. It could have been the yeah, the
1:36:22
glamour or whatever the drop coat.
1:36:25
Of the base. Was not good and that when it
1:36:30
rolled away and he said like I just got it tuned before I
1:36:34
dropped it off. I told him dude, this drive home
1:36:37
is probably going to feel so. Cool, that's a cool color.
1:36:40
You painted that too. Yeah, it was a.
1:36:41
It was like a little TCP. Color like ATP, some he bought
1:36:45
offline. Yeah, just something, yeah.
1:36:46
But the dude that I told him that that feeling was probably
1:36:49
going to be awesome, he always said thank you.
1:36:51
You know, like I see other people appreciating it and that
1:36:55
it's cool. Yeah, it is wild how many people
1:36:58
are going to Carl like based off of him just talking about.
1:37:01
I mean, they're like, yo, I want to go to you and have you spray
1:37:03
my car. Yeah, I.
1:37:04
Just want to provide to. Find someone also.
1:37:06
Yeah, I still. Get asked like and I have to
1:37:08
like turn a lot of people down, especially even friends and
1:37:10
stuff like that. Yeah, especially once you're
1:37:12
like, really good, and then you're like, OK, well, now it's
1:37:15
like this shit's expensive. Like, you know, Carl's still in
1:37:18
the stage where he he wants to offer it pretty fair price.
1:37:21
Yeah. Because he doesn't feel like
1:37:23
he's at a certain level. So he wants to do it at that
1:37:26
price. And that's perfect for Drifters.
1:37:28
Absolutely. Dude and tell me if I'm wrong
1:37:31
but there has been a a decline right of the cars at club loose
1:37:36
that look really sick. I think so.
1:37:38
And I think so, yeah. And tell me that it can't be
1:37:42
possibly because. Painting.
1:37:45
Painting got way expensive, Yeah, probably.
1:37:47
So let's say, let's say now coincidentally I get yeah, let's
1:37:52
say coincidentally, I start going in and then this line
1:37:55
starts going up too. Yeah.
1:37:57
I'm not going to correlate the two together, but if something,
1:38:00
but it'd be. But it'd be really cool if we
1:38:01
brought that style back to Club Loose, because Club Loose is
1:38:04
still. That's our home.
1:38:05
That's the that's the spot, yeah.
1:38:08
So it'd be really cool if they were like, because not Jake
1:38:11
asked me to fucking paint his car.
1:38:12
I'm going to do bobbies. I'm going to do Steve.
1:38:14
You'll. Probably meet Jake this weekend
1:38:15
but he's a young young dude from club loose.
1:38:17
He always does this. I've heard you 2 guys talk about
1:38:19
him. Sounds pretty rowdy.
1:38:21
His face all the time. You'll see him.
1:38:24
Jake's funny man. He's he's a young kid, he's club
1:38:27
loose and he's like the epitome. Well, like I saw him the other
1:38:29
night when we were there and I was like, what are you doing
1:38:31
here? You shouldn't be like this is
1:38:32
you're the epitome of club loose right now.
1:38:34
Like, you should not be here because they never come out.
1:38:36
Like those guys never go anywhere like this.
1:38:38
Like this is crazy. So.
1:38:40
But I like that he's here, you know, and he's seeing all this
1:38:44
because it makes me feel like, like, obviously we're here,
1:38:47
Front Street's here, but it feels like other people from our
1:38:49
area are here now. So it's kind of cool.
1:38:52
Yeah, it's it really has been pretty fun.
1:38:55
I was one of the blood masters to make it here.
1:38:57
They almost did one year. They were like.
1:38:59
They'd be really good, right? They would destroy the driving
1:39:01
aspect. Yeah, but the cars, I think they
1:39:05
the cars are looking way better than they ever have before.
1:39:07
Like, I don't know about right this moment, but the last five
1:39:10
years, but I don't know what happened.
1:39:13
Something, something didn't work out.
1:39:14
But getting those guys to all go somewhere is going to be hard
1:39:17
anyway. But yeah, one day maybe it would
1:39:19
be really cool because Simba, all those guys know them like
1:39:23
they're all friends. They all start drifting the same
1:39:24
time. Yeah, they're on the old forums
1:39:26
and stuff like that. Yeah, exactly.
1:39:28
Yeah, I finally got to meet, like, Petty and stuff.
1:39:30
Like, how do you really have a conversation?
1:39:32
Just hang out. Yeah, He's driving all the way
1:39:35
up here today. Yeah, I know.
1:39:36
He, he, I think he would consider it depending on who was
1:39:39
going and if you know, because I, I really do think he would
1:39:42
consider it. Just like lead a trail of
1:39:44
cigarettes and beers. Oh my.
1:39:46
All the way from New Jersey all the way to Shawno.
1:39:49
Yeah. And he What am I doing here?
1:39:53
Yeah, one day man, but I I hope these guys come out like I want.
1:39:56
Dude I want you guys to come out to E town would be crazy.
1:39:59
Do you need a cage though? Right.
1:40:01
We talk about this the other day.
1:40:02
We'll talk about it. We could talk because I talked
1:40:05
about it with somebody last night and I think that we can do
1:40:08
that. Yeah, there's ways to.
1:40:10
I don't what is the do you need door bars specifically or a
1:40:13
cage? Well, basically, basically you
1:40:15
guys just probably can't come out for a big spectator event.
1:40:18
We would have to do something a little different, you know, and
1:40:21
there's probably some other things we can do because, you
1:40:23
know. There's, I mean, I've been to
1:40:24
like, dude, I we've been to I've been to Texas three times
1:40:28
driving. Yeah, that's awesome down there.
1:40:30
They. Don't need cages.
1:40:31
Or no, no, no, but it's just travelling for fun.
1:40:33
It's just fun to like I was talking about with the stagnant
1:40:35
stuff here. Yeah, the van.
1:40:36
Gotta get a van. Pull your friends in.
1:40:38
Yes, Sir. Whoa.
1:40:38
He does not need a van. You know what?
1:40:40
I. Got the GX.
1:40:41
Yep. But just all you guys coming
1:40:44
down at the same time would be fun.
1:40:45
Yeah, yeah. We, we always tried to do it.
1:40:47
The Front Street guys and us, we always try to convince Simba and
1:40:50
then they come down. Simba's been there.
1:40:53
The breaking guys have gone there before.
1:40:54
I think ECB 2012 or something, so long ago.
1:40:57
Yeah, but that dude, that was one of my first bigger drift
1:41:00
events. And seeing Derek there and
1:41:03
everything, I'm like, you know, these cars are fucking crazy.
1:41:06
Like that kind of fucked my mentality up because the next
1:41:09
year, nothing there was cool, you know what I mean?
1:41:11
Like, but like one year it was like, what the fuck is all this?
1:41:14
But it was all from the Midwest. I can't.
1:41:17
I just, I can't. I need, we need to do something
1:41:19
with that dude. We know too many cool people.
1:41:21
Yeah, and so many crew cars do it.
1:41:25
What I want to do is like, I have like my friends now too
1:41:29
that aren't. I want to have all the teams.
1:41:32
Yeah, because those teams are friends and those friends are
1:41:35
going to have a trip of their own too.
1:41:37
So everyone's having a fun trip and we just go drip.
1:41:41
Yeah. Like and now we got to do this
1:41:42
one thing that we. And then we can take you guys
1:41:44
out to places like this. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
1:41:46
Like what would we treat you guys?
1:41:48
Taking to Korean BBQ, that's for sure.
1:41:50
But they have that here. Juicy platters.
1:41:52
Yo not even juicy. We got to take it to the real 1
1:41:56
Halal Guys in New York. City.
1:41:58
Dude, guys talk about it so much, I feel like I know what it
1:42:00
is. Dude, yes you do.
1:42:02
We should have. Brought it.
1:42:03
We should have brought. Just brought.
1:42:04
Yo, you guys might have one in Chicago.
1:42:06
I didn't look it up. Oh really?
1:42:07
You might. Like Hal guys or Juicy?
1:42:09
Pies halal guys, you definitely have, but it's not the fucking
1:42:11
same. Don't even bother.
1:42:11
It's just a different taste, but same concept, different taste.
1:42:14
It's not the dudes like cutting the stuff with their feet, is
1:42:16
it? I mean, they're getting.
1:42:18
Really good with. Their elbows Fucking Instagram
1:42:20
reels right now. I mean, we they call it street
1:42:22
meat, so it's up to you what you want.
1:42:24
Oh my. Who's who's?
1:42:25
No, no one's calling it. Street meets New York.
1:42:27
Street meets, yeah. That's.
1:42:29
This. Cart Nah street meat truck look.
1:42:33
At you're going to different. No, I'm telling you.
1:42:35
You're going to different cards getting weird meat dude, that's
1:42:39
no but juicy platters that might be juicy platters.
1:42:41
I would much rather do that. That's a stable.
1:42:43
We get it every week. Yeah.
1:42:44
You go there and you tell them, hey, you might have like a bunch
1:42:48
of cars coming here, this one one night.
1:42:50
See me, I want to drive. Everyone drives to New York City
1:42:53
and that's an experience, OK, Like like just you're all
1:42:56
hanging out there and then you drive back and it's this is what
1:42:58
we used to do, like when we would go to Queens to drift and
1:43:01
stuff too. So it sucks.
1:43:03
The road is terrible like you're going to be, but it makes it
1:43:05
fun. It's.
1:43:06
Far and like it ain't far the juicy platters little meet up
1:43:10
would be sick because it's like 10 seconds down the road from
1:43:12
faction so like that faction open house like that'd be cool
1:43:14
little. We should have them cater it.
1:43:16
Afters, dude, and just show them actually what you do.
1:43:20
They know Frankie in there. Really.
1:43:22
They really. I go that.
1:43:24
Too. We joke about it.
1:43:26
They really. Know it's like 5 minutes down
1:43:28
the street from my apartment. So and it's good food, like
1:43:30
healthy. It's not, yeah, it's not fucking
1:43:32
McDonald's. So I'm like, OK, this ain't that
1:43:34
bad, you know? Walks in.
1:43:35
Hi Frankie. But then they plug his order in
1:43:40
and that's it. They they know him.
1:43:42
Yeah, it's it's, it's good. It's not super healthy, but it's
1:43:46
yeah. Yeah.
1:43:46
What's your plans for the future like?
1:43:48
Are you like not? I want to keep driving.
1:43:50
Yeah, I've thought about maybe building another car for track
1:43:54
oriented car, like a little different setup, but we'll see
1:43:56
what happens with this. What about work you're going to?
1:43:59
You want to be at the shop. Yeah, I really like what I do.
1:44:02
I'm like really blessed that I. Enjoy what I do doing your own?
1:44:06
What about that? Yeah.
1:44:07
It's easy. It's what?
1:44:08
You had to have. Thoughts.
1:44:09
Yeah, but it's easy for me right now.
1:44:12
I have it made like in my work is like it's 3 miles from here.
1:44:17
I can go leave, leave all that shit at work.
1:44:22
I make good money. I can afford all this stuff.
1:44:24
I can afford my life it. Sounds like Ed.
1:44:27
It's funny enough. Remember Eddie?
1:44:29
We asked him the same thing and he was like, he's like, I have a
1:44:31
good relationship with my boss. Like he's like, I'd rather just
1:44:34
leave it like this. Yeah, and in that industry, like
1:44:36
a good tech is hard to find. So even if I did want to leave
1:44:39
that company for some reason, I could go anywhere else and find
1:44:42
a job I need. To look into this.
1:44:45
You're mic. Mic again.
1:44:48
I I, I mean, if it's something you're interested in doing for a
1:44:51
living, I would, I would. Really.
1:44:53
Would you do paint? Yeah.
1:44:55
Carl, is the mic messed up? Yeah, dude, yeah, No, I good.
1:44:58
I I would like. I would.
1:45:00
Yeah. Do that, I would do whatever it
1:45:02
is that you need me to do to work on Commission and afford an
1:45:05
S14 on yours type 2. We hire people, younger kids,
1:45:10
and I mean, it's just tough to find any good help, any good
1:45:14
help. I feel like there's too much.
1:45:16
I that's my, I always think that there's too much.
1:45:18
I'm like, there's so many kids in auto body industry.
1:45:20
They gotta not in auto body industry really.
1:45:22
It's tough, man. They're all old.
1:45:24
Older. The average age is 55 I think.
1:45:27
Holy shit yeah you are right because all the guys at Ethan
1:45:29
shop are old. Too the old is how the.
1:45:30
Average age in auto because I talked to I've talked.
1:45:33
Your mic. Again, I talked to people that
1:45:35
come in like we have like paint reps or sales reps or I, I
1:45:39
talked to all these dudes like I'm friendly, friendly with them
1:45:42
and I'm like just talk to them about the industry and other
1:45:45
shops and stuff and. I just feel like kids don't want
1:45:47
to fucking like they don't want to work.
1:45:50
Anymore or, or they want to be making like $30.00 an hour in a
1:45:53
way that's just difficult or they don't want to grind and
1:45:55
it's like I try to like like I have trained.
1:45:59
We have a local, it's College of Lake County, it's a local
1:46:02
Community College. They have an auto body program
1:46:04
and we have trained. I have one main apprentice, but
1:46:08
I've trained two kids there and that is like if there was a
1:46:14
future in that where I could make good money, like training
1:46:16
people, I would love to do that. I love training.
1:46:18
I love teaching people. So that's cool too.
1:46:20
Though Yeah, so like having someone work under me you.
1:46:22
Could probably do that on the side.
1:46:24
If I could work, I don't even know I'd have to work for a
1:46:26
school or something like that, like.
1:46:28
Like doing something where you teach on the side because we
1:46:30
were talking to Lee too and you know he's doing that drifting
1:46:33
like T Corp thing and all that. That's not a really interesting
1:46:36
as well like he was. Because there is like, as you
1:46:39
know, probably in the automotive industry, there's like some
1:46:41
people are kind of like older dudes especially can be kind of
1:46:43
tough to work with. Oh, yeah.
1:46:46
You know their attitudes. Especially if they don't like
1:46:47
that learner teacher. Yeah, or they don't want to
1:46:50
learn themselves. That's a big problem.
1:46:53
Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I, I it's kind of the
1:46:58
same in the, in the mechanic field too.
1:47:00
Like it's hard to find people that are good, Yeah, that don't
1:47:04
want to get paid $1,000,000 right off the bat.
1:47:06
It's like, dude, if you're not, if you don't know what you're
1:47:08
doing, you're not going to get paid that much.
1:47:09
And you have to learn. So if you have to learn, that
1:47:11
means you have to, you have to, you know, enjoy the suck for a
1:47:14
minute and just fucking deal with it.
1:47:17
That's so Ethan's shop, I told him.
1:47:20
Because again, when you picture, when I picture a painter, I
1:47:23
worked at a Body Shop briefly, but not thinking back on it, I
1:47:28
did not take that for granted. I took that for granted.
1:47:30
And there was opportunity there and I blew through it because I
1:47:36
was out of college, wanted to go my desk job, what I went to
1:47:39
school for, went to school for and didn't work out.
1:47:43
But like I don't know that that that industry that always.
1:47:48
Are doing at that age man. I know people go out.
1:47:51
Military and stuff like that's crazy to me or send people to
1:47:53
college even, but. But The thing is, is like, when
1:47:56
you think of a painter there, I always just thought of him as
1:47:59
just some old dude who has a cigarette in his mouth just like
1:48:01
lays the color down after everyone's done prepping it, and
1:48:04
he hates the rest of the other people at the shop.
1:48:07
Like, that's what I think of a painter.
1:48:08
And I feel like it doesn't have to be that way.
1:48:11
No. And but.
1:48:13
Those people are going to die off and they're better and
1:48:14
nobody's going to want to work with them.
1:48:16
They have live a better life and it's just a sad individual.
1:48:20
Damn, so the whole shop does hate them.
1:48:21
Dude, if we had Ethan here right now, he'd be going off.
1:48:24
Yeah, and the painter at our shop, he's been there for 40
1:48:28
years. The.
1:48:28
Painter in my work's been there for a really long time also.
1:48:31
Dude, I want to, I want to like I even told him like if let's
1:48:35
say I do that for a year, I pick up as much as I can absorb, like
1:48:38
as much as I can develop my own processes.
1:48:43
And not saying that I would just leave, but if it wasn't working
1:48:46
out for me, at least I would have learned something instead
1:48:48
of like years flying by. I'm kind of just sitting behind
1:48:51
the desk now. And like, I think you should
1:48:53
100% go to a shop, find a nice quality shop that you think is
1:48:58
aesthetically looks like a clean shop.
1:49:00
They're shops that I've seen that are super low ceilings,
1:49:04
they're dingy, they're grimy, there's parts from like 1980s
1:49:06
sitting in the corner. Stay the fuck away.
1:49:08
From those, those are the ones that.
1:49:09
Go to like an actual knife shop. I don't know anything really
1:49:12
about Gerber's or these like chain shops.
1:49:14
I would try to find an independent shop that is is like
1:49:16
a more family oriented. So it's collision.
1:49:20
Yeah. Auto body.
1:49:21
Yeah, collision painting. I don't.
1:49:23
Mean even Ethan's shop maybe? If if you're, if you have the
1:49:27
drive and you want to be a paint proper and as long as there is a
1:49:30
future for you to be a painter because there's some people that
1:49:33
you'll get stuck if you're good at what you do, you're stuck
1:49:35
there because they're like, oh, he's good.
1:49:36
I'm not going to teach him how to paint.
1:49:38
He's a great prepper or he's like, he's good at buffing.
1:49:41
Why am I going to have him? You know what I'm saying?
1:49:42
Because they're not going to find anyone to fill that
1:49:44
position. I do know that.
1:49:46
So I'm not good with not good or not.
1:49:51
I'm not bad, but I'm not the best with planning, probably
1:49:56
because I didn't have these. But blocking, yeah, blocking and
1:50:00
making it like a flat plane where you will see no deviation
1:50:03
in the surface. I like laying the color down.
1:50:06
That's probably my favorite thing about it.
1:50:08
I like making sure you mix it, make it feel like a mad
1:50:13
scientist, put it in the gun and the moment that it lays on,
1:50:17
you're just watching it change in front of you and that's what
1:50:19
I like. That's the most satisfying part.
1:50:21
Everything leading up to that sucks.
1:50:23
Everything leading up to it, well, no, like on a spray day,
1:50:26
if I know the whole week I had spent all week prepping because
1:50:29
on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I'm just going to have booth loads.
1:50:32
And then that little, the little process that I have on a
1:50:36
spraying day, it's like nice. I have fun doing it because it's
1:50:39
like, let me repaper the booth. I clean the gun usually at least
1:50:44
before I use it every time. And then, you know, make sure my
1:50:48
space is clean. My line isn't going to get
1:50:50
caught on everything that practice the walk around and
1:50:52
then spray it. That's like my favorite thing to
1:50:54
do sweet. Because it's like, what sucks is
1:50:57
that now I have to clean it all up like, and I also have a bit
1:51:02
more of a like a sustainable way to set everything up.
1:51:05
Are you using APPS system? A cup system.
1:51:07
Yeah, perfect. Yeah, that's I was spraying with
1:51:09
just the metal cups for the longest time and I like to.
1:51:11
It's such a nightmare. You're like having what is what
1:51:14
is PPS paint prep system I think right or something?
1:51:16
Like that disposable cup liners I can show.
1:51:18
You them. I have, I have, yeah, I think I
1:51:20
have boxes of them and stuff like that.
1:51:21
It it makes it OK, so much cleaner.
1:51:24
All you have to do is basically unscrew the thing, the cup, the
1:51:26
paint cup, and then just clean the gun.
1:51:28
Instead, you're cleaning the big cup full of paint or primer.
1:51:32
You're going through paper towels and primer.
1:51:34
And I was trying to. Think of finding a bolt to screw
1:51:38
into the cup so that I could just.
1:51:40
Shake it a bunch of times. And then get really a lot of it
1:51:43
out, but I, I was so sick of doing it, dude, like.
1:51:45
Clean up and prep is always the craziest part of a paint.
1:51:48
It's not even just because it's going to come out bad, it's
1:51:51
going to come out unusable, dude.
1:51:53
And then you're going to have to really like a paint reaction.
1:51:57
I had two really bad ones and after that, that's why now I
1:52:01
I'll I'll make sure to primer it if it needs primer.
1:52:03
I don't care if I have to wait another day to go get primer
1:52:05
because like the reaction, it just looks so bad.
1:52:10
Like Wags's bumper has those little dimples on the bottom.
1:52:14
That's a reaction to happen. Oh, I thought that maybe chips
1:52:17
or something. No, maybe to the fiberglass that
1:52:20
didn't cure it was probably still kind of soft maybe or
1:52:22
maybe it wasn't primed or I don't even know what causes it,
1:52:25
it just I guess deviation in the surface, but.
1:52:29
Now I'm learning shit from Carl. Good, he can spray your car if
1:52:32
you need to spray. He probably he must.
1:52:34
Be doing that, Yeah, yeah. Yeah, easy peasy though.
1:52:38
It's either Carl or Ed doing the doing the next thing.
1:52:41
But then eventually Carl's going to be we.
1:52:43
We needed someone. Absolutely everyone does.
1:52:45
Yeah. So I'm glad he's doing this
1:52:48
because it's going to be very helpful because when we were
1:52:51
before Carl was in the group, we were fucking borrowing paint
1:52:55
booths. Like all this shit.
1:52:56
Luckily, Justin used to work at a shop that had a paint shop
1:52:59
attached to it. So like, we would borrow the
1:53:01
guy's booth, prep everything ourselves, drive the cars there,
1:53:06
take everything off whatever prep saw or whatever, everything
1:53:09
down and tack cloth it, and then we just spray it in the booth.
1:53:13
We would do everything. Like, Justin literally had to
1:53:15
learn how to paint and then and then we'd just leave.
1:53:18
And then it was nice. It was really convenient.
1:53:20
But you're not always gonna have that.
1:53:22
So having someone that knows how to do it, and that's his thing.
1:53:25
That's really good dude. You didn't even when you pulled
1:53:28
up. You can't even tell Vera Frankie
1:53:30
pulled in the driveway. I would just got done painting.
1:53:32
It looks like a meth lab is in the.
1:53:34
Gosh. Cuz the cuz the plastic is
1:53:36
sealing to ceiling and it's on the further side, it's like a
1:53:39
it's literally just like this. And in the middle, there's just.
1:53:41
Split. Yeah, and you can't see in
1:53:44
anymore cuz it's the. Anything could be going on
1:53:46
behind that plastic. Anything.
1:53:47
Yeah. You got a meat factory.
1:53:49
You could be killing people. How?
1:53:50
Did you vent this? Room I had I think this was the
1:53:55
exhaust and that was my intake so I would close the garage door
1:53:58
on a fan or just keep it open and then build it have a fan
1:54:01
shooting out here hell yeah cuz I didn't want it cuz I had the
1:54:04
cars parked right here yeah so I didn't want it shooting on my
1:54:07
cars or any. Of your neighbors.
1:54:08
Yeah, just hope for the best. I have like filters like on the
1:54:13
exhaust fan, but no one actually said anything.
1:54:15
They didn't do a. Lot the exhaust, the charcoal,
1:54:17
it's like a panel filter or whatever the what filters did
1:54:20
you? Use like a house filter.
1:54:22
That's what I owe. Yeah, we're on the same HVAC
1:54:24
filter. I did the same thing once, we
1:54:25
built a paint booth in the driveway before final bout
1:54:28
because you had to paint two cars and we're like fuck what do
1:54:30
we do? Got a whole carport, cut holes
1:54:33
in it, put box fans in it with filters.
1:54:37
It worked for the first car, which was mine.
1:54:38
The second car didn't really work out there.
1:54:40
The the fucking paint was contaminated, there was water
1:54:43
everywhere, everything was humid.
1:54:44
Oh. Man it was fucked.
1:54:46
That's the problem with small compressors also is they that's
1:54:48
a lot of water. Yeah, I have a 30.
1:54:51
Gallon yeah that's what I have too.
1:54:52
That's why I spraying with here it.
1:54:53
Looked like a lizard skin or something.
1:54:56
Alligator skin, Yeah, that's. A Yeah.
1:54:58
That's like, crazier than fucking.
1:54:59
The gun could have been dirty or it could have been hot in there.
1:55:02
So many things dude. Painting is so weird.
1:55:05
We got cool though. We got a lot of questions.
1:55:06
I'm going to ask some of these. Let me see for me.
1:55:09
Yes. Do you, Oh my God, has this
1:55:11
ever? Happened to you?
1:55:12
Has this ever happened to you, too?
1:55:13
Sorry. No, Go for it.
1:55:13
I got to ask. Yeah, because I don't know what
1:55:16
causes this, but I'll do all this work and come out with a
1:55:18
bad job, and then some days I'll go outside and spray something
1:55:21
in the middle of the backyard and it would come out amazing.
1:55:24
Yeah. What is that?
1:55:25
Something on the surface usually or something in the lines.
1:55:28
So I don't know what your filter system is like.
1:55:31
Or like inline system I have like a one on the compressor
1:55:34
that's a bigger one and then on the gun I have like a.
1:55:35
Little the little red pod, Yeah. OK.
1:55:37
And then usually it's start. Do you use wax and grease
1:55:41
remover just that's like a fail safe or do you just use glass?
1:55:45
Cleaner. I just used the glass.
1:55:46
I would get wax and grease remover and wipe everything down
1:55:48
with it. And get one of.
1:55:50
Those and then if you want to start sealing also using sealer,
1:55:54
so I don't know what what primer are you using.
1:55:56
And it's like a high build filler sand.
1:55:59
What brand Rust Oleum. OK, so I use it's called Upaul.
1:56:04
Have you heard of this brand fucking?
1:56:05
Diego. 'S trying to U it's and it's
1:56:06
nice the price point Amazon, the price boy it's super nice and
1:56:09
you can thin it out so it's sealer so you can use it as a
1:56:11
high build primer and block that that's what.
1:56:13
He said. To him and then you can thin it
1:56:15
out as sealer and that's like ensuring you have the cleanest.
1:56:18
So you're sealing it and then you're basing it after that
1:56:21
sealer flashes. No more sanding and then.
1:56:24
No, after the sealer, no. You're basing off of that.
1:56:26
Yeah, I heard about this. Sometimes I just watch painting.
1:56:28
So I don't have a gallon here, I have a gallon of it at work but
1:56:30
like it's a green gallon of primer.
1:56:32
Orange. Other little thing.
1:56:34
Yeah, I think it's on the Amazon app.
1:56:37
Yeah, you should get that. I It's so useful because it's
1:56:40
2IN for one because you can thin it out to a sealer.
1:56:43
That yeah, that's, if it's a small job, I'm a canned primer.
1:56:47
Yeah, filler primer because it's just like.
1:56:49
If it works, I personally don't like something that doesn't have
1:56:51
a catalyst in it. You know what I'm saying?
1:56:54
Yeah, it's not the same result. Yeah, I use the just a can for
1:56:57
etch primer like when there's bad metal.
1:56:59
That that that too like just a quick if it's something I just.
1:57:03
All that you Paul stuff is really good and you can get out
1:57:05
what? About a epoxy primer.
1:57:07
That for like bare metal and stuff like that, yeah, that's I
1:57:11
that's a whole thing. Yeah, that's how I feel.
1:57:13
I don't know, that seems a little crazy for.
1:57:15
Yeah, that's like fucking you restoration stuff.
1:57:18
But then also I'm like, this car is like spent its whole life
1:57:21
outside in horrible conditions. Now it's going to be inside.
1:57:23
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
1:57:25
But we like the seam sealers and stuff are all epoxy, so it's
1:57:27
like good for bare metal. So I don't really know.
1:57:30
Because my interior I'm redoing it and I'm like, OK, let me
1:57:32
spray primer, self fetch, self fetch on the metal areas.
1:57:39
I'll seam seal where I want to or I'll prime everything and
1:57:43
then seam seal on top of that, right.
1:57:44
And then paint. Yeah.
1:57:45
So yeah, but it's, I don't know. Pardon me is like, do I need to
1:57:49
prime this whole fucking interior like it's.
1:57:51
I you could seal and shoot it, probably it's.
1:57:53
In pretty fucking good shape. A lot of it, it looks.
1:57:55
I would just stuff it and seal it and shoot it.
1:57:58
Yeah. So I don't know.
1:57:59
Sealer is basically a really thin primer.
1:58:01
OK, yeah, I heard about the sealer thing too.
1:58:03
Yeah, I'm I obsessed over painting because it seems like
1:58:05
it. There's the rules you got to
1:58:07
follow. I know you should see the dudes
1:58:09
in his auto body pages. So they're like you need to be
1:58:11
use epoxy primer before you fix every day.
1:58:13
I'm like, dude, we're fixing like a Kia.
1:58:15
Like, I don't need to fucking yeah, I'm like.
1:58:16
I'm not every good and you know what?
1:58:18
I keep bringing him up. Sorry, Jimmy, I guess I'm
1:58:20
fucking on your shit lately. But Jimmy is a real good
1:58:23
inspiration for interior painting and stuff like that.
1:58:26
He's very he's very meticulous, but he he swears by self etch
1:58:29
and just yeah, go like go, go for that.
1:58:31
He does use epoxy primer if he's doing something big, like a
1:58:34
whole huge area, he says it's a better thing to do, but I don't
1:58:38
know my. Thing is like it if the hood's
1:58:41
already So I have a 240Z hood at the house right now.
1:58:43
It's our friend Andy's and the previous painter.
1:58:46
I guess whatever they used to seal it up after they did the
1:58:50
body work, it had rust in there that wasn't fully gone I guess
1:58:56
or wasn't treated correctly and now it had like bubbled up a
1:59:00
paint. Paint looked pretty OK on the
1:59:03
top it just it bubbled like a big bubble to the point where it
1:59:07
just boom like chunks of clear. The sealer or whatever the
1:59:12
primary they decided to use under that and now I thought
1:59:16
that the epoxy primer is whenever it gets to bare metal
1:59:19
and you have that situation where.
1:59:21
There is possible, yeah. I think regular primer will not
1:59:23
adhere to bare metal is what or something correctly, I don't
1:59:26
know. So that's where you use an
1:59:27
epoxy, OK. And then you stuff that or
1:59:30
whatever and then you do your body work and then prime it.
1:59:33
I was thinking it was better, yeah, it was better to or yeah,
1:59:38
Regular Primer 1 is here to bare metal.
1:59:39
Yeah, what you said like something like that?
1:59:41
There's so. Many things, yeah.
1:59:43
I don't know enough about the specifics.
1:59:44
There's not a lot of questions because I just posted it before,
1:59:47
but there's some stuff here. Let me.
1:59:48
How are you shocked that people have questions for you man?
1:59:51
People want to. Talk to I really I really did
1:59:53
not I have. Tons of friends, literally just
1:59:55
like. I guess I don't know who's a
1:59:57
nerd for this. Stuff.
1:59:58
You're doing a podcast with Mike.
1:59:59
He's the nicest dude ever. That's what Bryson said this
2:00:01
morning. Like how do you know Bryson is
2:00:03
the nicest? Guy How do you know this guy?
2:00:05
He's like. Yeah, man.
2:00:06
No, he's really nice guy, man. He's a really nice guy.
2:00:10
Is that how? He talks.
2:00:11
Yeah, dude, we got we got some questions too, Carl, But Josh
2:00:16
Joli's not a question, he says. Why does he have the best car
2:00:18
ever? Yeah, that's how I feel too.
2:00:21
Thank you. You.
2:00:22
Got your friend who really likes this car?
2:00:24
Yeah, and it's not that like means a lot coming from Josh
2:00:27
also. Yeah.
2:00:28
So for. Sure, because I mean Josh is
2:00:30
into his own thing right now with the the other style.
2:00:32
But we all know where Josh started and.
2:00:35
And we talk a lot about, like, turbo setups.
2:00:36
And he's been to Japan so many times.
2:00:38
So I asked, like, how they set up cars over there.
2:00:40
Yeah. So it's he's a wealth of
2:00:42
information to me as well. Yeah.
2:00:45
Connor Croke says. Why is he so handsome?
2:00:48
I guess that is a fact. Do you know Connor Croke?
2:00:50
He's. Yeah, anytime he comes out for
2:00:53
final bout. Yeah, yeah, dude.
2:00:54
I hope he just appears there. This.
2:00:56
Time, that's what happens every year I'll I'll be looking out at
2:00:59
the track and I'm just doing my little scan and I'm looking.
2:01:05
And Connor's just there. He's gonna skate the whole way
2:01:07
here. Yeah, and like we're like you.
2:01:09
Who did you come? I don't know, but I'm glad
2:01:11
you're here. Like we didn't know you.
2:01:13
Were and The thing is, is like no matter where we are, even
2:01:15
though it's a very strange setting and I'm bugging out
2:01:19
saying I got her, he'll just be there.
2:01:22
Yeah, so chill. Just like.
2:01:24
It just. Doesn't Another question for us
2:01:27
was, are the pods going to be on Patreon early this year?
2:01:32
Yeah. What we're going to try to do is
2:01:33
we're going to try to release, I think all of the podcasts, or at
2:01:36
least a good group right away on the Patreon.
2:01:39
What sucks is is like whoever asked that question, if they're
2:01:42
not subscribed they're never going to get their answer
2:01:45
because it all went out already. These aren't live,
2:01:47
unfortunately. Yeah, we are releasing 1 this
2:01:49
week, so that will be it. Well, no one.
2:01:51
Will. I think that's a good idea
2:01:52
though. Exactly.
2:01:54
Yeah, you're right. I didn't think about that.
2:01:56
I forget. I always forget.
2:01:57
We're not doing this live. Yeah, because we've been.
2:01:59
What are they thinking? How are you going to get your
2:02:00
answer bro? I got to DM that guy.
2:02:03
I can't. I'm not going to try to read
2:02:05
this name, but recommendations for getting into drifting today
2:02:10
at an older not old in quotes, but older age balancing adult
2:02:15
responsibilities. Damn, that's a pretty good
2:02:18
question actually. For me.
2:02:20
Well, I think it's just because. For everyone but yeah, I would
2:02:22
say. You, I don't know, just you do
2:02:25
have to sacrifice a lot of stuff.
2:02:28
There's like a lot of, I don't know, things I have to sacrifice
2:02:31
in order to afford this stuff. And I just like, like I said,
2:02:34
that anything that's not useful in my life, I just don't have.
2:02:37
That's true too, though you can't have, you can have.
2:02:39
Like main vice, you know. Yeah, you can't have like a a
2:02:41
million hobbies. Yeah, yeah, I, I obviously, as
2:02:44
you can tell like this is what I focus on.
2:02:46
Yeah, besides my family now, so it.
2:02:48
Shows. Thank you.
2:02:49
Because then it's like a master of what is it.
2:02:52
Yeah, yeah, I know what? You're saying I wish I could
2:02:55
remember it but. Jack of all trades, but the
2:02:57
master of none. You can see that in a lot of
2:02:59
people though, in a lot of cars and stuff like that, or just
2:03:02
like anything they do. Yeah, no, yeah, this is, I mean,
2:03:07
I'm not going to keep completing your car.
2:03:09
But bouncing on it. Diego said not a question, but
2:03:17
have a Good Friday and good luck at final ballot.
2:03:20
That's good. Fucking Diego.
2:03:22
But go back to work. You got a bunch of dude Diego.
2:03:25
He works. For himself, right?
2:03:27
Yeah, wow, dude, he's everyday. Quit your day job.
2:03:31
How are you today though? Like that and like, hey, how are
2:03:34
you? Quit your day job yet?
2:03:35
Oh, OK. Well, he wants to see you
2:03:36
painting, right? Dude, I just think it's wild to
2:03:39
me that that really that word catalyst, that was the catalyst
2:03:43
for me that's bouncing on it. Was him like?
2:03:47
Yeah, because. But that's good, he teaches you
2:03:49
a lot of stuff and over the phone.
2:03:51
Yeah, You know, Diego, I got this issue.
2:03:53
What do you think I should do? I was gonna do this, but.
2:03:55
And he's like, yeah, that sounds pretty good, but.
2:03:56
The craziest part about Diego is the first time I met him was in
2:03:58
Japan. Really.
2:04:00
Right. Happy Hoku.
2:04:01
Yeah, yeah, I'm just walking around.
2:04:03
He's like, yo, what's up? I was like, oh, you're Diego.
2:04:05
He's like, yeah, I'm like, this is insane.
2:04:06
Like, what the fuck are we doing?
2:04:08
Crazy fake under score, Sylvia says best in the game.
2:04:13
I was just talking to him. He's a new dad also.
2:04:15
Yeah, yeah, he's Nate. OK, I don't know if I'm a cool
2:04:18
guy or not. Yeah, they're all really like,
2:04:21
it's like the ones who are that got the sickest cars are all in
2:04:25
that not phase, but what happened?
2:04:31
No, the phone was. But not that phase of life, but
2:04:33
like to see you guys just kind of progressing through life,
2:04:36
like kind of is wild to me because it's like wholesome.
2:04:42
It's like lights. Good, Yeah.
2:04:45
Jake Jordan, do you all miss New Jersey?
2:04:49
No. Well, I always miss New Jersey,
2:04:51
just for the record. But it is.
2:04:53
We're having a good time. Right now, me and Johnny were in
2:04:55
the middle of the dispensary yesterday and Johnny's telling.
2:04:58
Yeah, Johnny #1 New Jersey person loves Illinois is talking
2:05:01
all this. Yeah, I'm gonna move here.
2:05:03
They got cheese in Wisconsin and all this.
2:05:05
I'm like, what are you talking about?
2:05:07
Like you. Got Cheese?
2:05:09
In Wisconsin. Johnny like that, he was just
2:05:10
saying like a fuck with Illinois.
2:05:12
It's a nice spot to beat. Like I'm like.
2:05:14
OK, we don't have to get here. That's the guy with a guy.
2:05:16
Yeah, that is the guy we took you.
2:05:18
Here, Yeah, Where are you going to fucking drive, Johnny?
2:05:21
Come on, bro. I'm.
2:05:22
Just going to be a cowboy. I'm.
2:05:23
Just going to be a highway racer.
2:05:25
Yeah, that's literally what he would say.
2:05:26
I just. Think it's funny?
2:05:27
Dude, the simulation's really been simoned pretty hard.
2:05:30
Why? Because.
2:05:31
We were standing in the middle of the not middle, but we're on
2:05:37
the side of the road and there's an abandoned car dealership
2:05:40
there. Nothing sitting in there, but I
2:05:42
can see a roof line of a Toyota Sequoia.
2:05:46
I'm sitting there, right and we see that we.
2:05:47
Almost made it through a whole episode.
2:05:48
And we see that, and we see that, OK, hold on.
2:05:51
And we see that. And to make Johnny happy, the
2:05:55
aliens let a Evo 10 drive by. No other Evo 10?
2:06:00
You and Johnny were there. We're standing here and I'm
2:06:03
looking at this abandoned dealership and there's a Sequoia
2:06:06
there behind a jersey barrier. Like it's just the top.
2:06:10
And I saw it and I seen the roof wing.
2:06:12
I'm like, that's a roof line of a Toyota Sequoia, right?
2:06:15
There. Oh my God.
2:06:16
Johnny like, let's walk over there, check it out and then as
2:06:18
we're chilling there, Evo 10, I hear it like that sound, Johnny
2:06:22
immediately yo. Like that was crazy.
2:06:27
Guys, why? I'm like, dude, that was.
2:06:28
Really weird. Like another another one was
2:06:30
Damon's podcast we were doing and he, he he starts talking
2:06:34
about his sisters. Yeah, she got into a car
2:06:35
accident or something. And then you literally as he's
2:06:38
saying that, he gets a text that his sister got into a car
2:06:41
accident. Oh my God, that was really
2:06:43
scary. That was.
2:06:43
Really weird. Yeah, it was a little Fender
2:06:45
Bender, but I know she just kind of started driving around and I
2:06:47
was like, I just wanted to like text her and.
2:06:49
Let her know he's like, yeah, I got to take a phone call about
2:06:51
my sister getting in a car accident.
2:06:52
We're all like what? Like that?
2:06:53
That just happened. Yeah, it was.
2:06:55
Really. Freaky, last one was express
2:06:58
your feelings on less is more for these chassis.
2:07:02
Yeah, less is more, especially in today's, like, day and age.
2:07:06
Everyone's just trying to throw everything at it.
2:07:08
Any little doodad. Just because you can doesn't
2:07:10
mean you should. Oh my God, there's so much
2:07:11
doodad. There's like so much stuff to
2:07:14
like buy for these cars, like any.
2:07:16
And people are making all these little like the mirror things
2:07:19
for the ganadores, and it's like, you don't have to buy all
2:07:22
that. Stuff.
2:07:22
I love that dude but that was my first thought too when you said
2:07:25
it's. There's so much like all these
2:07:26
canards and everything that are people are putting on cars is
2:07:30
just, it just becomes too much. I mean, that's like a thing we
2:07:32
see in general. Remember, I always tell you I'm
2:07:34
like, yeah, just stick whatever you can on the fucking car.
2:07:37
Like if we always just see cars that way too much it's.
2:07:39
Too much? Was it like the BCL wing that
2:07:41
started that? I don't even know where.
2:07:42
Wow. That's a good theory.
2:07:43
What the heck? You know what I'm saying?
2:07:45
No, it was a 326 power wing. Oh God.
2:07:47
And then the little Gurney flaps that you put on.
2:07:49
No, don't make fun of those. Yeah.
2:07:52
I like that, don't you? I love Gurney.
2:07:53
Flaps. You're a racer, bro.
2:07:55
Probably because Josh had one on his fucking Type X wing.
2:07:57
Oh, did he? That's cool.
2:07:58
That's. Probably why I like them, but.
2:07:59
I think that the word doodad. Doodad just.
2:08:03
Just kind of encompassed all of those little products because
2:08:07
that is kind of what I think of. But here's an example.
2:08:10
Sometimes it's necessary because that's you committing fully to
2:08:14
that style, right? Because Lee's car has about 19.
2:08:17
Doodads different. Doodads on it and I normally
2:08:21
don't like that. Like I agree with you, but on
2:08:24
there that's you committing fully and it looks sick.
2:08:26
It looks like it's ready to fight.
2:08:28
At the end of the day, it's all about.
2:08:30
Execution. And that's how his cars have
2:08:31
always been too. Kind of it's.
2:08:34
Committed. Yeah, even as Supra was like
2:08:36
that kind of arrow and stuff. And he makes it work.
2:08:39
We were talking about it there. We were like, dude, that's my
2:08:42
favorite proceed car right now, which I never thought I would
2:08:44
say, but that one is my favorite one right now.
2:08:47
This new iteration is crazy. It looks everything fits it.
2:08:50
You know it's perfect. The modern day.
2:08:52
And The thing is, another problem I have with people doing
2:08:55
all that stuff is that they do all that stuff for whatever
2:08:59
reason. And then it's like comes off
2:09:02
like fucking a month later and you're like, well, what was even
2:09:04
the point? Like clearly you didn't like it
2:09:06
or whatever. It's like, what is the point of
2:09:07
all this? And not specifically, It doesn't
2:09:08
age well. Yeah, well, definitely, you
2:09:11
know, not specifically drifting, but even I'm thinking regular
2:09:13
customers that come in with just random shit on their car like
2:09:17
that. But yeah, I got this.
2:09:18
I got this wing I got this dude. You don't need that.
2:09:21
Like the car looks good the way it is like lower it, put wheels
2:09:24
on it, this and that. I'm just.
2:09:26
Picturing the guy. Subaru people guy or the I need
2:09:29
the splitters. No, no, no, it's not.
2:09:30
Yeah. Bro, bro, bro, it's not.
2:09:31
It's not Subaru people. It is 2014 Honda Accord people.
2:09:36
I'm sure it is. With the vortex generator.
2:09:39
All that the. Carbon fiber wing?
2:09:40
That or mirror covers that make it look like the M mirror.
2:09:42
Yeah, that's a good example. The Batmobile wing, the lips on
2:09:46
the bottom. Yeah, yeah, it's too much.
2:09:49
What's what I do is like, I look at that and I'm like, will that
2:09:53
fit my car? Like because I yeah, I like
2:09:57
taking stuff from other cars and then like mixing them.
2:10:00
That's just like mixing a bunch of other stuff.
2:10:02
When you look at Mike's car, it's like if you had this car
2:10:05
out on the road and you looked at it, you're like, oh wow, let
2:10:07
me study this car real quick. You see OEM fenders, OEM rear
2:10:11
quarters, OEM wing. Technically, yeah, everything's
2:10:15
factory, but it's lowered, it's on wheels and it's got a body
2:10:18
kit. And that's how I like cars.
2:10:20
And it's and mirrors and that's it.
2:10:22
And it's like the car's perfect. Why?
2:10:24
Because it's painted one color. I like that the Vine the vinyl
2:10:28
tune hasn't hit this I know are. You so I look, I'm looking at
2:10:31
that. Right now, but it did have.
2:10:32
It at one point, like a little bit.
2:10:33
Oh yeah. Yeah, it's some stickers on the
2:10:35
hood. I've thought about it.
2:10:36
Yeah, it's always like. No, Mike.
2:10:38
But when you do do it, it's not going to be, it's going to be
2:10:41
what we like. I know.
2:10:42
It it'll be yeah, I've already, I have it planned out if I do
2:10:46
it. But again, it's like how long I
2:10:48
drive the car regular. I go to the fucking Whole Foods
2:10:50
in this thing, like, you know, I drive it on the street like
2:10:53
regularly, like. But like at the same time.
2:10:56
So he said that with this car. Whole Foods, this car in the
2:11:00
color it is, it's already crazy to me.
2:11:02
Like if you had subtle vinyl on it, I don't think it's going to
2:11:04
really change the craziness level, you know what I mean?
2:11:07
Or the OR the second hand embarrassment, you know, driving
2:11:10
around and your grandma's seeing it or.
2:11:12
Something exactly. Yeah.
2:11:13
I want it to be appealing to like regular people in a way.
2:11:15
Also because I like, I want them.
2:11:16
I don't know. I get what you're saying, yeah,
2:11:19
but I also like pissing people off.
2:11:20
Regular people. Yeah, because like, what the
2:11:22
fuck is this loud thing with stickers on the windshield?
2:11:24
And dude, I missed that part of drifting when it was
2:11:26
counterculture. Oh yeah, now it's like, not.
2:11:30
Now it's like they're trying a little bit.
2:11:32
To be counterculture now sometimes like it's too much.
2:11:35
Jake pulled his wallet out the other day and had a fucking
2:11:39
chain attached to it. I was like, dude.
2:11:41
Gen. Z is getting crazy.
2:11:42
Like a Harley. Yeah, I was like, what?
2:11:45
Gen. Z is doing crazy.
2:11:46
That's. Kind of a East Coast, I guess
2:11:48
that's like shit's kind of big out there, right?
2:11:49
Like Harley and hot rod culture, yes, it's like kind of like.
2:11:53
We don't see too many chain wallets I.
2:11:54
Would say I. Wouldn't I think?
2:11:55
Engineer boots are next for him. Oh yeah, probably I I I do.
2:12:00
With those, no, these are just I do.
2:12:02
Appreciate those look comfortable.
2:12:03
Like that's why I'd never thought I'd wear these.
2:12:05
How much was it comfortable? Yeah, I do want to say before
2:12:07
we're done with this, I miss your black hood.
2:12:09
I don't know why. Yeah, I just, I, I mean, I
2:12:13
obviously I miss carbon fiber hoods, but yours was.
2:12:16
Black, right? It was carbon, it was carbon, it
2:12:17
was raw carbon and it was such nice quality.
2:12:19
Yeah, I miss carbon fiber hoods on cars.
2:12:23
Like I just, I think that's cool.
2:12:24
It can be cool, at least on this car.
2:12:27
For an example it would be awesome as well.
2:12:29
But this hood is so good. Paint match.
2:12:30
I had it for so long like that. That was like one of the things,
2:12:34
yeah. So I was like, what can I do to
2:12:35
switch the car out a little bit more?
2:12:37
And it was paint the hood. Yeah, makes sense.
2:12:38
Yeah, that was like one thing all.
2:12:40
Right, we're pretty much done, all right.
2:12:41
I wanted to say thank you. Yeah, of course.
2:12:44
Yeah. Thank you guys.
2:12:46
Took over your little space here.
2:12:47
We could keep going, it's just we know we have final balance.
2:12:49
Yeah, we have to be. We are on AI, don't even know
2:12:51
what time it is. I could care less to be honest.
2:12:52
Two hours. We're trying to do 2 hours and
2:12:54
then. We're at two hours already.
2:12:55
Yep. Oh my, thought we were at 1 1/2
2:12:57
one but we're pretty much at this has been so Mike and thank
2:13:01
you bro, like what the fuck. Yeah, dude, that was don't.
2:13:03
Think we're gonna get up and I'm not gonna hug you, dude.
2:13:05
But that's you're gonna squeeze the pee out of me, Dude, I gotta
2:13:08
do that's pee so bad. But.
2:13:10
Thank you so much. All right, this has been another
2:13:12
episode. Stay tuned.
2:13:13
We got more for you. We're not done.
2:13:16
Make sure you checking. In bro a locking we really are
2:13:19
locking in right? Now make sure you check out 224
2:13:22
Period Racing on Instagram. Do they already follow him?
2:13:25
Yeah, well, if you don't, make sure you check him out.
2:13:27
And definitely check out Gleam, Team Gleam from the Chicago
2:13:31
area. This team is the epitome of
2:13:34
stylist drifting. So I can't hear it.
2:13:37
I love it. Grandmas love everything about
2:13:38
me. See you on the next.
2:13:41
One later. See you.
2:13:42
Bye. All right, guys.
2:13:50
Well, that concludes our Mike Jones podcast.
2:13:55
As I said in the intro, there's just not enough words to
2:13:59
describe how thankful we are for Mike Jones and the love that his
2:14:03
family gave us on this trip. So after, after our podcast,
2:14:09
Mike decided, Hey, I'm just going to follow you guys like
2:14:11
1/2 hour out of my way and you can drive my S14 to see how the
2:14:17
TDO 6 feels. And I was like, you really don't
2:14:20
need to do all that. And he's like, no, no, no,
2:14:22
you're going to drive. I'm like, OK, so he let me drive
2:14:25
his car for like 20 minutes up the up the road.
2:14:28
And I just had a blast. It was, it was a really good
2:14:30
time. I got to feel what a TDO 6 feels
2:14:33
like. So that's, that's the turbo
2:14:34
that's going in my car. So I got this, you know, see how
2:14:38
awesome it wasn't all of it, all of its turbo lag glory.
2:14:41
So yeah, it was it was a fun time.
2:14:45
Carl got amazing gifts. I got a keychain, a pivot knob
2:14:48
keychain that was made by Mike Jones good friend.
2:14:52
So it was just crazy, crazy podcast.
2:14:56
I'm very thankful we were able to do this.
2:14:58
I hope to talk to Mike again on our next final bout trip.
2:15:01
There's just never enough time. So hopefully Mike can make his
2:15:04
way out here at some point. Maybe all the Glean guys can
2:15:06
come out here and do a little drift day at at Ridgeway Park,
2:15:09
because that would be amazing. But yeah, one of my favorite
2:15:14
podcasts.