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Creepy People Chronicles: Shadow People Nightmares · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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I'm telling you because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking
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my wife.
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No, get out.
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You're not invited.
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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.
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I had no idea.
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I've never read this.
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I had no idea this was in here.
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Client!
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Um, I lost my spot.
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Oh my god.
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My brain hurts.
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I can't help but you really know.
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I'm so sorry.
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I can't.
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Hi, Caitlyn.
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Hi, Cassie.
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Hi, creepy people.
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Hello.
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This is... my brain broke.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Did we do that?
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Did we say hi, creepy people?
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Hello.
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This is my brain broke.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Do we say hello?
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Hello.
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Did we do that?
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Did we say hi, creepy people?
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Yeah, we did.
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My brain literally just broke.
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Yeah, it just broke.
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It, for sure, broke.
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I fixed it.
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She's sober.
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It's fine.
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I'm back.
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And if you're here and you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,
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where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things spooky
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and the Pacific Northwest and sometimes other places.
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Also there.
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Yeah.
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And there and then sometimes there.
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You get the idea.
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Anyways, we also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode because we like it.
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We like it.
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And we feel like it gives us insight into our topic and we're going to keep doing it.
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Yeah, it really does.
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And also, Caitlyn has a sign behind her that says tarot and like we don't want to be liars.
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Yeah.
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Kind of hacked you.
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You have a sign behind you that says spooky.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to be a liar about that.
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So it's always spooky.
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It's very spooky.
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Well, we actually have a Patreon if you didn't know.
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And we have people that join and there's different tiers and there's free trials.
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Oh, the free trials.
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And sometimes people join the free trial and then they actually sign up.
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And they're like, I don't want to cancel this.
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And they actually want to like give us, you know, a little change, a little money to help
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us along in our little passion project business.
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Yeah.
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I kind of say passion project actually.
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It's a business.
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I mean, two things can be true.
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I feel like I said that 1800 times today.
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You know, I feel like me and the rest of the world were all just learning this.
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You know, we're getting used to this fact.
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Yeah, I feel like it takes a minute to wrap your head around it.
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Well, you know what else is true?
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What?
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We have a new Patreon at the $10 tier.
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That is the Never Bundy tier.
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It is.
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Thankfully people agree with us.
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Never Bundy.
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Chris, not Caitlyn's Chris.
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We have multiple Chris's.
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We do have multiple Chris's in the creepy world.
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Yeah.
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It's not.
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It's almost like it's like a really good name.
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Yeah, like almost I would say one of the best names.
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It's up there.
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It starts with a C. His voice.
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That's right.
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I do feel like there's that.
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That's right.
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If your name starts with a C, you got, you got good things going for you.
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You're probably pretty cool.
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Pretty confident.
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Pretty courteous.
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Courteous.
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Courageous.
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Courageous.
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Classy.
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Christmas-y?.
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Like that literally has Chris in it.
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So there you go.
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There you go.
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Christmas-y Chris.
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Christmas-y Chris.
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Sorry if you don't celebrate Christmas.
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I apologize from the bottom of my heart.
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Like the depth is so shallow.
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All of a sudden it's like someone has canceled their Patreon membership.
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It's in their live streaming.
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He just felt it.
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He's like, oh, you made a Christmas joke.
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It's the war on Christmas.
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You know, that's the number one threat to this country. (Southern accent)
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Hilarious.
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You made that accent hilarious.
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It fits more than you ever know into this episode.
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Oh.
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I don't know how to feel about that.
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Because this is a creepy people Chronicles episode.
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So we read stories from our listeners and occasionally listen to stories from our listeners.
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And yeah, we'll get there.
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Okay.
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Well, that's enough of that.
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Let's start.
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All right.
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Um, I actually want to start with a little story.
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It was something cute that happened at my great grandma Ruby's memorial service.
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Her name was Ruby.
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Yes, her name was Ruby.
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Cassie, I don't think you told me that.
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And isn't it the sweetest?
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What?
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Are you gonna cry?
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I mean, you cry already.
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I'm so sorry.
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That was, that was the name of my first pet.
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Oh, Ruby.
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And I cried.
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I cried.
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I cried.
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I cried when my goldfish.
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She was goldfish!
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I'm so sorry.
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But you know, I had a very emotional connection with the bulls-well.
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Maybe this is her coming back to say "blub, blub."
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"blub, blub."
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I know where she's buried.
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No.
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I can go find her.
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Oh, she's fine.
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There anymore.
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Uh, sorry.
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Sorry, child, Caitlyn.
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Well, I mean, I don't expect like the entire goldfish to be the big fish.
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You know what we're getting?
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Just the teeny tiny bulls.
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So yes, my great grandma's name was Ruby.
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And that's my birthstone too.
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So like I always felt like, oh, we're cool.
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Because we have this little Ruby connection.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, she did pass recently and she was 96 or 97, I think.
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She'll look at that.
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Fuck, I thought I wrote it down.
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Just say in our 90s.
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I mean, if you're in your 90s, you don't care about how old you are in the same way that
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like a six year old is like, I'm six and a quarter.
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It's actually kind of funny because like on one of her birthdays, she swore to everyone
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that she was like a year older.
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Oh, really?
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They were like, but you were born this year and it's this year in the math.
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And she's like, I don't know how it works out, but this is how old I am.
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She was so stubborn and spicy.
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Okay.
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So she was born in 27.
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So she was 97.
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Okay.
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After make a correction, I was using the year 2024 and not the year 2023 when I did my math.
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She was 96 because she had passed in 2023.
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But funny because I did say that she was arguing that she was a year older than she actually
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was.
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So you know what?
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I just, I got you, great grandma Ruby.
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I'm on your side.
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I know how old you are.
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And I did forget to mention that she was born on St. Patrick's Day and at her memorial service,
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we got little Shamrock pins in honor of her because she just, she loved like St. Patrick's
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Day, everything Irish because she was born on that day.
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And so I did put the little pin on her alter today.
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So if you see the little little Shamrock pin that is in honor of my great grandma Ruby.
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So yes.
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It's crazy.
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So yes, it's crazy that I had like a great grandma my whole life.
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I always thought it.
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Everyone was like great grandma.
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Yeah.
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So it's pretty cool.
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It's cool.
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She had a lot of stories.
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Oh my gosh.
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I can imagine.
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I can imagine.
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She was very spicy.
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She was very well known in her nursing home.
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I'll just put it that way.
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So at her memorial, they were up there talking and we were at a very beautiful summer.
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I can't remember the name off the top of my head.
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So the service was in like a brick enclosure, but we were like outside and then behind the
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speaker, there was a window like didn't help me get out of glass.
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No, I had to.
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I think I had glass.
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There was like a window.
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So you could see trees and nature and shit behind.
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Oh, that's cool.
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So I was staring out at the trees and then I saw this giant ass fucking bird.
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Like, whoo, whoo, like land on a branch and it like did this like all dramatic thing.
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And I'm like, look, does it?
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I don't know if anyone else saw it.
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But I kind of a bird.
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First I was like, is that an owl?
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Because it was kind of far away.
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Yeah.
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I wasn't really sure.
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I was like, is that a hole?
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And then it like took off again.
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So it's giant wings and underneath have like white underneath.
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So it's like, I don't know if it was a hawk.
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It could have been a hawk.
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Those are super common.
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Yeah.
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Around.
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I didn't like get a good look at the shape of it.
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The way it had landed was like backwards.
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So I don't really get the get a good look at the shape.
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Yeah, like a look at it from like, kind of back.
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I think it was a hawk just from seeing so many.
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And I know I think they have like white under their wings.
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I think I went and looked it up.
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Yeah.
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Big ass bird either way.
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I don't think it was an eagle.
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No, I would have known by the head if it was a eagle.
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There are two.
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Yeah.
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And they're really big.
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Those are also.
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It was a really big bird.
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Yeah.
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No hawks are.
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I was going to say, I didn't disagree with you.
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I'm not super familiar with a ton of different birds.
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But yeah, the way you're describing it, that sounds like a hawk to me and to look at
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like different images of different breeds, I guess, of hawks.
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Like I would say, yeah, that's a fair guess.
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They're more common to see than an owl too.
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And it would be probably weird for an owl to be flying around it like noon.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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But it was really cool.
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And so I was just kept looking out there like, did I really see that?
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Like it's in the middle of this memorial.
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It was like this giant-ass bird like doing shenanigans in the tree.
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And I don't know, it was interesting.
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And then I remembered I had just heard on a podcast earlier that week that it was like
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a psychic podcast.
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Yeah.
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And she was saying how she'd always thought that like hawks were messages from the other
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side.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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So I thought that thought it was pretty cool.
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And I think I wanted my great grandma send a little hawk down to say hi to everyone.
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That's interesting because, okay, I'm checking something really quick.
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Okay.
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So it's not just hawks.
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Oh, there's, I mean like every animal is like-
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No.
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Specifically, it said that birds are messengers from the spirit world.
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Yeah.
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And may even be the physical manifestation of angels.
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I don't know if you look that up at all, but-
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I didn't really look into it.
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I just know that like so many things are like messages from the other side.
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This really makes me want to look up our- our bird.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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So I'll have to look at that later.
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But it says specifically, this is interesting hawk.
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So they have like different meanings.
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Hawks, their supposed meaning is for- it says for vision and acuity.
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Mm.
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Which makes me think that like that is a really good way.
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Sending a hawk is like a really good way of someone who has passed on.
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For them to say, I've got my eye on you.
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I'm still watching over you.
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Well, I mean, obviously that was my next sentence.
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Shut up.
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Well, of course.
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No way.
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But yeah.
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Oh, it was like well hawks are like, you know, known for like being able to like see from above
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and like, maybe it's just that they're watching out from above, you know?
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And I was like, let me Google something and just like completely separate from this situation.
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Let me just find this like sort of metaphysical meaning and like let me be the one to say it.
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Because it's all about me.
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No, it's perfect.
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It's like, I just like, I don't know why I didn't look it up probably because I-
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That's so crazy though.
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I just like had my own meaning and so I didn't really look it up.
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But if it means that for you sort of intuitively.
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Yeah, it's affirming.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I thought it was really cute.
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We were like, we went to see her pretty much every summer growing up.
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But then like obviously once I got into adult, we didn't visit very often until recently,
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like right before she passed.
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I think I talked about my visit.
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We did have like a weird spooky thing happen while we were there.
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And Grace had like such a great trip.
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Yeah.
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What I remember.
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It was really good.
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It was fun having like girl time with all with the fam.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But we weren't like super close growing up.
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So it was just nice to know like maybe, you know, she, and by the time I had visited her,
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she wasn't really talking much.
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We weren't sure if she actually knew who we were.
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Yeah.
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So it's nice.
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And then we have a story in our email from Clint.
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You remember Clint?
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I forgot.
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Clint sent us another story to read.
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Get out of here.
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Naturally I haven't ready yet.
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So I don't know what it says.
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Oh boy.
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Are you ready?
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I'm as ready as I'm going to be.
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All the way from Canadian.
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Yes.
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Hi Caitlin and Cassie.
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Hi.
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Hi Clint.
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Another C.
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That's right.
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All the C's.
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I'm just saying.
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We're just collecting creepy C people.
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It's fine.
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Yeah.
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Everyone who's listening who isn't a C name just change your names like not that hard.
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Or how about also we love you equally.
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Yeah, we love you whatever, whatever, whatever, however.
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I like how I'm the one giving off the mom energy in this.
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Like the least mom of all the mom being capable people.
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This is your circus and we are your monkeys.
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I guess.
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Double tie a new or alter later.
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Oh boy.
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Clint says since my last email you're still one of my three favorite podcasts and I have
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taken up tarot cards.
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That's awesome.
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Clint, I love that.
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That's one of the three.
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Who are the other two?
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I know.
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Well, they're really like really fucking awesome.
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Yeah.
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No.
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No competition.
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No.
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But we're like top from the three, right?
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But like if we sent you a deck of tarot cards, can we buy you?
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Tarot has really changed my life because of you.
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So thank you.
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I've been telling everyone about your podcast.
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And I saw more of my vision.
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Sorry I can't tell you about that.
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Oh, that's okay.
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Oh, I'm just like rereading.
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She's pre-reading.
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No, I'm rereading where it said tarot really changed my life because of you and I'm just
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really like holding onto that.
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I really want everyone in the world to do tarot.
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I really feel like that's our goal.
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Yeah.
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And also listen to True Crime.
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And unless you're a True Crime-er, unless you are the one doing the True Crime, don't listen
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to it because we don't have any tips.
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Unless it's going to make you not want to do it because you don't want to end up on a
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show.
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Oh, maybe that.
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Yeah.
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It's like two totally like sort of a dexter situation, right?
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Like something sets you on a path where you don't want to.
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Right.
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I hope so.
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But we can offer the world.
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I like that.
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Tarot and turning killers off because we're annoying.
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But I can tell you about another dream I had.
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This one won't make you cry.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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We'll challenge accepted.
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Maybe laugh a little bit like I did.
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What if we laugh until we cry?
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That would be on brand.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, this gets intense real quick, so let me like, but you said it was funny but okay.
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And why would you lie to us?
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Clint, you're messing with my emotions.
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Seriously.
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It started with me watching my own funeral.
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That's like yikes.
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The thought of Clint watching his own funeral.
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It like hurts my heart a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I'm physically unable to go to the place where I envision me envisioning my own
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funeral.
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No, we're just going to focus on Clint right now.
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Clint, no.
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Clint.
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Okay.
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Do you want, I had a vision of your funeral.
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I have no idea what it was like, but in my vision just now snap vision.
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It was like Doby's funeral from Harry Potter.
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And that's the saddest thing I've ever seen of my time.
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Oh.
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Friend...
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Friend...
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Oh, my God.
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Okay.
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Oh, my God.
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You said we weren't going to cry.
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Why would you lie to us?
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We literally did it to ourselves.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So it started with me watching my own funeral.
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Then I'm walking around my house, checking on my family.
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When I go, you said we were going to cry.
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When I go into see my wife, I see her sleeping.
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Well description of my room, you enter through the door.
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There's a wall on the right and a short wall on the left.
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That's closest.
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Then you see my bed.
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And telling you, because when I got past the closet, there was a shadow person attacking
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my wife.
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No, get out.
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You're not invited.
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This is extra creepy and everyone will see why later.
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I had no idea.
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I've never read this.
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I had no idea this was in here.
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Clint.
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I lost my spot.
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Oh, my God.
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My brain hurts.
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This is so creepy.
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I'm so sorry.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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Okay.
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I grabbed him.
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We start wrestling.
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He bounced off the dresser and then fell through the bedside table as I'm punching the shadow
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person.
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I noticed Heather.
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I guess that's his wife.
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Heather woke up and was watching us.
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Then I saw my daughter watching us.
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That's when a portal opened a couple more shadow people grabbed me.
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This is crazy.
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They were dragging me towards the portal.
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I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.
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Clint, God damn it.
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You lied.
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Clint, we're mad at you now.
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I think you underestimated her.
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My all emotional.
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She's reading ahead and I can tell her already based on her.
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We're emotionally fragile.
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I can't face.
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Clint.
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Clint.
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Okay.
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I looked at my daughter, blue her a kiss.
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I looked at my left arm across my chest and over my right arm and that's how I would give
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her kisses.
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I would give her kisses and hugs.
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Oh my God.
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Seriously.
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I literally can't fucking read this.
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This is how I would give her kisses and hugs when she went on the school bus when she was
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younger.
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I literally thought like you were going to be dragged away and you're like saying you're
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going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged away and you're going to be dragged.
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I think I just hit a new lock.
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I'm like waiting for the slapping part, Clint.
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Where does it get funny Clint?
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Okay.
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Then I said play time.
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Oh, wait, what?
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Then I said play time is open.
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I said play time is open.
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That's what I thought.
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Then I said play time as I was laughing.
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I let the shadow people take me through the portal and that's when I woke up and laughed
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again.
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Question.
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Do you think it's possible that the shadow people only exist in our minds or do I get
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play time after?
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Or do I get play time after I'm dead?
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Please feel free to share with your listeners.
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Take care of me.
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Safe.
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A fan of yours, Clint.
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Okay.
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So I have to say immediately my impression is like the fact that he says play time and he's
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like kind of laughing, right?
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As he is sort of, I don't know, collapsing into this portal, that makes me think in a way
22:58
he's like, this is like, I don't know how else to put it other than play time.
23:06
This is play time.
23:08
I just distracted you from my family who are amongst the living and I saved them and
23:15
it's like the biggest.
23:16
It's almost like I'm jumping in this portal with a bomb.
23:22
Like, "Haha, motherfuckers, you're going to take me out.
23:25
I'm going to take you with me."
23:26
Right.
23:28
That's how like just this overwhelming sense of like you won and they lost.
23:35
I don't know.
23:36
How else to describe that?
23:39
That's just the, I don't know.
23:41
I can't interpret it any other way in my mind.
23:44
I've been racking my brain in the last like a couple of minutes trying to think of this in
23:51
another lens or in another way and it's the only way I can like, you like it makes sense
23:57
to me.
23:58
That was kind of like what I was thinking at first but then until he said I woke up and
24:03
laughed again and then I was thinking like what if the portal was like his mind waking up
24:12
and the things were like trying to get to him like before he woke up and then he like
24:17
noticed he was waking up and he's like, "Haha motherfuckers, let's go and I'm bringing you
24:22
into my waking world and I'm going to beat you because it's daylight bitches, ain't no shadows
24:28
here."
24:30
That's an interesting like kind of still has the same impact though, right?
24:38
Because it's like, "Listen, you won.
24:41
They lost by it."
24:43
It is crazy though because it's like such a layered dream like going back to the beginning.
24:47
He is dead.
24:49
He's at his own funeral and then he's going around to try to like check on his family and
24:55
that's when he sees the shadow people but then it's like then his daughter can see him.
25:02
Yeah, I feel like it's really interesting because it seems like at a certain point once he's
25:08
battling with the shadow people, both his wife and his daughter seem to like even in a nonverbal
25:17
way, he communicates that like it seems as though they can see him.
25:23
Yeah.
25:24
And I don't know, that's really odd to me as well but I just feel like this is like inception
25:30
level.
25:31
Yeah, it is.
25:32
You know?
25:33
Gosh, and then awake of laughing.
25:36
I know, I'm not even imagining.
25:38
I have woken up.
25:41
I don't know.
25:42
Maybe laughing like maybe once or twice.
25:45
Crying, I'm probably a few times.
25:47
Yeah.
25:49
I feel like I've jolted away.
25:51
Yeah.
25:52
And even, yeah, just not even in an audible way.
25:58
Yeah.
25:59
I feel like more often than not because you know me, I'm just like this very like you emotions
26:06
and just feeling anything is so in a way like foreign to me.
26:14
Yeah.
26:15
It makes me sound like a robot but like if the shoe fits.
26:21
I don't know.
26:22
I feel like more than anything, I just wake up feeling like I'm jolted but it's inaudible
26:29
because I have this innate sense of like wanting to sort of like let up, quiet it down.
26:38
You know what I mean?
26:39
Like use your inside voice.
26:40
Yeah.
26:41
Like I've just woken up from a nightmare potentially and I'm like even in your sleep,
26:49
your sleeping sleepy state.
26:50
Listen, you don't stop being somebody who was raised by depression, Arab Midwesterners
26:57
just because you're sleeping because that's foolish.
27:01
Yeah.
27:02
Sleepiness for the day head.
27:03
You got to sleep with.
27:04
Which was southern and you know we go back and forth.
27:10
Sleep with one eye open.
27:12
Or like both your eyes open but like only a little bit like a weirdo.
27:18
So I know I've told you and I think I've said this on a show but I don't breathe right.
27:24
Right.
27:25
Yeah.
27:26
Okay.
27:27
And no one seemed that surprised and I was like well thanks the fucking lot you guys.
27:32
Apparently I can't do anything right but literally apparently I can't because I also don't
27:39
link right.
27:40
Yeah.
27:41
I don't like that.
27:42
I think I've told you that.
27:44
Yeah.
27:45
But I don't know that we've ever talked about it on the show.
27:46
I don't know.
27:47
So I literally sleep kind of with both of my eyes a little bit open.
27:52
I don't even during daylight I don't even blink correctly.
27:57
No, God.
27:58
My eye doctor has watched this.
28:00
He has observed me blinking incorrectly.
28:04
It's like why you should take some fish while but also you don't blink right so that's
28:12
why your eyes will dry.
28:13
You should take some fish oil.
28:15
Yeah.
28:16
Okay, that'd be so great if I could just not have everything all of the bodily functions
28:24
that just I don't do them right.
28:28
You're just you're not not doing them wrong.
28:31
You're just dancing to the beat of your own drum.
28:34
You know, you're just doing a little different.
28:36
Yeah.
28:37
Doesn't meet it's wrong.
28:38
Anxiety is how I identify.
28:42
I'm just people don't blink completely anxious people don't breathe deeply.
28:47
This is where we are.
28:48
Yeah.
28:49
They also don't poop.
28:52
They also don't poop.
28:53
That's correct.
28:54
Thank you for reminding me.
28:55
You're welcome.
28:57
Speaking of a Southern accent.
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We had a I do too and I always call it a country accent for some stupid reason because I'm
29:10
not that smart.
29:12
And we have this like she's the dumbest person she or anyone else has ever known and that's
29:20
far from the truth.
29:21
The dumbest memory.
29:24
You guys we have something really exciting to share with you.
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Well we got a story in the form of audio messages from a listener named Nick and you know
30:29
he just like slipped us a couple little spooky story.
30:33
He slipped us a spooky if you will.
30:35
Stop it.
30:36
Stop it.
30:37
So I have some audios to play for you of a spooky story and then if we we can play some
30:46
and then pause and discuss as necessary.
30:51
And you'll quickly see why I deeply apologize to this listener for all of the terrible
30:59
Southern accents I have ever done.
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Oh my god.
31:03
This is why I don't breathe right.
31:07
Okay.
31:08
Apparently they don't mind because they sent us a story.
31:12
Okay so the story goes as an early child I always had a very uneasy feeling, living in
31:21
the woods in Tennessee, miles away from any neighbors or anyone just nothing but wildlife.
31:30
There were a lot of very dark and ominous feelings just that kind of overwhelming sense of
31:37
something is not right here.
31:39
And while you know doing simple stuff like riding three-wheelers through the woods or getting
31:49
up and just getting something to drink in the mouth of the night you would always feel like
31:54
someone was watching.
31:56
And then it got to the point where I was able to see them.
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It was like at first it was just kind of like distortions and I wouldn't really pay no
32:08
attention to it.
32:09
Look away real quick do something else.
32:10
Whatever I was finished what I was doing.
32:12
And then I would pay more attention eventually when the feeling came too creepy and started
32:19
seeing the shadows of people or two people in particular.
32:25
Okay so shadowy people interesting.
32:35
Shadowy people.
32:37
And then we just talked about this in the last story.
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I know Clio.
32:43
I don't.
32:45
Also Tennessee sounds creepy.
32:50
You know wow I just don't know I don't know about that.
32:58
It's got to be pretty humid right?
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Should have tied it off.
33:04
Real humid tons of bugs.
33:06
Yeah bugs I was thinking bugs severely haunted place.
33:10
Also you can hear in the audio you can hear like birds and stuff.
33:15
Oh God.
33:16
I was wondering if that's what I was hearing.
33:18
Yeah you can hear birds in the audio.
33:20
So cute hopefully it transfers into that final.
33:23
Okay let's replay or play more.
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Play on.
33:26
Play on.
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They would pace back and forth along my walls in my room.
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They have been seen by other people.
33:39
It would always be that overwhelming feeling like they were about to balance it anytime.
33:43
And you could fill the intention.
33:46
Like that's hard when described.
33:50
You could almost have a psychic link with these things and know what they're thinking.
33:55
And they don't have to say anything and it just didn't feel good.
33:58
All right.
33:59
Please don't say anything.
34:01
I wonder okay Clint you'll have to tell us like did you do you have like some sort of psychic
34:06
link with these.
34:09
I mean I know it was in a dream but like could you tell what they were thinking and stuff.
34:13
You'll have to tell us okay.
34:15
Did you have any commentary?
34:17
Oh I was just just please don't say anything.
34:22
I don't want it.
34:24
I don't it doesn't need to speak.
34:26
I'm just going to go ahead and move on.
34:29
It doesn't need to speak the shadow person.
34:31
Nothing nothing should speak.
34:33
No no one.
34:34
No testimony needed.
34:37
Dismissed.
34:40
They followed me around until I was about 18 or 19 years old.
34:45
I joined the military.
34:46
Went out of Tennessee into a different state.
34:51
Some weird things happened in boot camp.
34:55
Or a couple of bunks and empty barracks got bent overnight after filling that same filling
35:02
I would fill throughout my entire life.
35:05
I'll get back home and nothing ever happens again until I'm like last year or the year before.
35:15
I saw what felt like was the shadow person against my wall and I felt that uneasy filling
35:20
again.
35:22
No.
35:23
No.
35:24
Okay so I was like oh okay so they went away and there was like until.
35:30
So what happens now you just like still see them and feel weird as anything else happened?
35:37
No.
35:38
No.
35:39
Nothing else happened.
35:41
Well there's another story.
35:43
I was doing the military to make that stop as well.
35:46
That didn't even work.
35:47
There was bent up bunks.
35:49
That's what he said right.
35:51
The bunks are bent.
35:52
That was probably a government experiment.
35:58
Right.
35:59
Yeah.
36:00
I was thinking like like a really big magnet they were like how big of a magnet will be
36:05
need.
36:06
I was just thinking maybe they just fell apart because they're probably like update things
36:12
that often there in the military.
36:14
That feels valid as well.
36:16
They just broke their big dudes.
36:20
I just that's what I want to think not to not say I don't believe you or something but
36:25
I just trying to make it feel better.
36:28
Yeah we really want to rationalize this.
36:31
Yeah.
36:32
But we can't.
36:34
Also the next story it's like just a tiny bit worse and scarier.
36:38
Great.
36:39
Yeah.
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I can't wait.
36:41
Oh wait I can.
36:42
Do you have anything else you want to talk about?
36:47
About them shoes.
36:48
I can't think of anything Taylor's.
36:54
Okay.
36:55
Okay.
36:56
Okay.
36:57
So next one I'm going to cut out the very beginning because he says names and I don't want
37:01
to include the names.
37:03
He is saying that he lives with his girlfriend and his kids.
37:08
We embodied some friends over creepy friends and we played court games and chess and video
37:14
games and all that.
37:15
Hey, oh creepy friends.
37:18
Were your card games, tarot cards?
37:20
Come on.
37:21
We know they were.
37:22
Maybe Oracle.
37:24
You're feeling nasty.
37:26
The thing of the day we decided to all sit down and do the Ouija board.
37:32
Oh okay.
37:36
Now she really wanted the Ouija board to work and she was really upset because as always
37:44
the Ouija board never worked for her.
37:46
Where?
37:47
So I started making fun of demons and calling them out.
37:52
Okay.
37:53
Zach Baggins.
37:54
Pretty much making everyone uncomfortable trying to give something to happen.
37:57
Oh no.
37:58
And of course nothing happened.
37:59
I know that the candle didn't blow out on its own.
38:03
Don't entice the demons.
38:06
I think by entice you mean antagonize.
38:09
Integanize, yeah.
38:10
Well the same thing.
38:12
But yes antagonize is what I meant.
38:14
That was the correct word.
38:15
Well okay.
38:16
So I feel like part of you wanted to be nice and entice like you're like, "Can we all
38:23
demon?"
38:24
We're all demon.
38:25
Well demon, demon.
38:26
I feel like that was more like, "Can we all know stupid demon?"
38:32
I don't know.
38:33
I don't know.
38:34
Well let's see what happens.
38:38
Ouija board.
38:39
Eventually our friends left and everything was fine until we were about to go to sleep and
38:48
we heard a really loud crash in the kitchen.
38:52
And it was on the front end of the kitchen table.
38:56
There was a show along the wall that had a bunch of her family heirlooms from the idling.
39:04
And it went flying across the kitchen.
39:07
I say flying across the kitchen but instead of falling straight down it went all the way
39:11
to the kitchen of Ireland like it had been thrown off the wall and all that stuff had shattered.
39:17
A day passes and I get really really sick.
39:25
And I chalk it up to a fever dream but it felt like so much more.
39:32
I remember falling asleep on the couch.
39:35
I don't remember falling asleep but I remember rolling over and looking in the middle of the
39:39
floor and there was a coffin.
39:41
I was open and you could see a fetid core.
39:47
I mean just completely disgusting, oozy body decomposed.
39:54
I mean you know not a fresh corpse.
39:56
It was weeks old.
39:59
It was there.
40:00
I remember getting off the couch and wondering why.
40:05
My girlfriend and all the kids couldn't see it.
40:09
And keep in mind everything that's going on in real life is also having my dream like.
40:15
She was sitting there on her phone watching TV on the chair and that's what was happening.
40:19
Kids were doing their thing back and forth but it was so vivid and so real.
40:26
And then all of a sudden the corpse rose up out of the coffin and started to crawl down
40:31
my mouth.
40:33
I jumped up off the couch and busted through the door and started throwing up trying to
40:40
expel what still felt like something was trying to crawl down my throat.
40:45
Oh my God.
40:47
Yeah.
40:49
The oozy corpse trying to crawl down his throat.
40:56
Oh my God.
40:57
You're making Kalen puke congratulations.
41:00
Oh my God.
41:03
That is.
41:06
I'd forgotten that that one had a user's like a woman.
41:10
Get her the call.
41:11
I'm not going to throw up.
41:13
I'm not going.
41:14
I feel like I want to throw up because I can like physically feel how just I have to I
41:23
can't.
41:24
I'll let you go ahead.
41:26
I can I can feel that in a way that I just.
41:32
Yeah.
41:33
It's I don't like that.
41:35
I can either.
41:36
I can completely like visualize that.
41:42
I really hate it.
41:43
I really hate it.
41:44
I feel like I'm feeling it.
41:46
It's in your throat.
41:48
Yeah.
41:49
Yeah.
41:50
It feels like your throat's like closing up and you're like listening to a story like that.
41:53
Oh my God.
41:56
So I had forgotten obviously I did listen to those audios before playing them and I did
42:04
not remember really that there was like a coffin aspect to this story and and then like
42:13
Clint's story is like he's at his funeral.
42:17
Oh my God.
42:18
And then like and the shadow people.
42:20
I did not even make that connection and so obvious that's really embarrassing.
42:26
Ms. Cole would be it's not please.
42:29
Oh my gosh.
42:32
I'm like really good at making connections.
42:34
I you know a lot of times I am and then sometimes we're a little.
42:40
Hey, you're disturbed over there.
42:44
I yeah, anything that like gives me the heave-jeebies really just sets my brain off in a different
42:53
direction.
42:55
Consider me heaved and jeezed.
42:58
I just like what was skimming Clint's story.
43:02
I got just to see like if there was anything else.
43:08
In there that would.
43:12
They were trying to grab him and take him through the portal.
43:16
Also I guess we didn't really answer your question.
43:19
Do you think it's?
43:22
No we didn't really do you think it's possible that shadow people only exist in our minds
43:27
or do you or do I get play time after I'm dead.
43:32
I don't know why like the I feel like they're two separate questions like I think shadow
43:38
people exist in your mind and are like possibly also in the world.
43:46
They can two things can be true.
43:48
Are we sure thing?
43:53
And also if it's in your mind it doesn't mean it's not real either.
43:56
That's true.
43:57
It's just as real unless you are obviously like if you have schizophrenia and you're dealing
44:03
with mental illness.
44:05
But those things are so very real to them.
44:08
Yeah I was just going to say that's very real to them.
44:11
You should take the advice of whatever they're saying to you.
44:14
Does it mean it's not like real to you though.
44:16
Anyway.
44:17
I do I feel like enough people experience that but that feels very real to me.
44:26
And if you want my opinion I think you get plenty of play time after you transition.
44:35
I don't like to say transition.
44:37
In transition.
44:38
In to the next world.
44:40
The next life.
44:42
I don't know.
44:43
I like to think that shadow people can like take you into the other life.
44:48
I don't know.
44:50
Yeah I think for the most part a lot of a lot of what we think of as being sort of of
45:00
the afterlife and sort of of a paranormal realm.
45:06
I really think that it has almost as much power as we give it in a way.
45:15
Which is I mean it's unfortunate for me.
45:20
But I do things that you know I think that a lot of it's real and we're experiencing certain
45:30
things.
45:31
But I do think also at the same time I do think there's a lot of it that really do believe
45:40
that regardless of how awful it feels.
45:46
I don't think that they can cause us harm in the way that we understand.
45:53
Not physical harm.
45:54
Not in the way that our brains understand at least.
45:58
Yeah.
45:59
I just got real hippy-dippy.
46:03
But I do think though that there's a lot of things that they might be able to be present
46:11
or visible to you.
46:12
I do think there's probably a lot of things that even if they can touch you I don't think
46:19
that they can hurt you.
46:24
And maybe unless you want them to.
46:26
You know I feel like if you're making like a TV show and you want the drama like in your
46:32
like a single bite to fake in it.
46:35
Well I'm just saying like if you're that type of person who wants to go into like a scary
46:41
place and think that you and like want bad things to happen to you so that it's like
46:46
evident that there's things there you're going to get in.
46:51
I didn't come up with this concept.
46:52
I've heard it many places.
46:54
Yeah.
46:55
Like it's just it's about how you go into it.
46:58
Yeah.
46:59
Yeah because I do think that there are places that we visited and I certainly went into it
47:06
feeling like oh shit I don't know if I should be here and knowing that I'm sensitive and
47:12
then it's actually been a more positive than negative experience even if there is a lot
47:20
of intense energy.
47:23
Yeah.
47:24
Because that's how we felt about man race.
47:27
I really did feel like there's a lot of intense energy that there is.
47:33
And I felt a little bit overwhelmed and I was definitely like I was ready to leave when
47:39
we left.
47:41
I wasn't.
47:42
I know.
47:43
You know I don't know maybe I'm a spiritual introvert.
47:51
But I felt very overwhelmed at the end of that experience because it was very intense.
47:58
But I didn't ever really feel like there was anything that gave me cause for concern in
48:06
the sense of I would come to harm.
48:08
Yeah.
48:09
And again, you know these are you know I'm basing this on my experience and I can't.
48:16
I certainly I know that it's not the same for everyone and that's not the same experience
48:21
that I've had in every place.
48:24
But I really do feel like in the vast majority of situations and circumstances, I do think
48:33
that I don't think those things can hurt us.
48:38
Not really.
48:39
I kind of agree.
48:41
Maybe I maybe I want to believe that.
48:43
Well, but you keep on wanting to believe that cause that will protect you.
48:47
I believe.
48:48
Manifestation.
48:49
Oh man.
48:53
So what do we think about this?
48:54
I mean, we don't have to go back to the dream.
48:57
Obviously that was crazy and intense.
48:59
But do you think who's being possessed or something like the I feel like something trying
49:06
to come out, someone trying to climb down your throat and get into your body is like
49:13
a sign of like possession, right?
49:16
I mean, it didn't get in because he threw it up.
49:20
Yeah, I feel like that to me reads us something that might have been an attempt.
49:28
Yeah.
49:29
But I think I don't know, I just keep going back to that it's like was somebody who's
49:37
sensitive and they have an awareness and a healthy fear of things that they don't understand.
49:46
I just feel like you're going to have a hell of a time inhabiting that person.
49:50
Yeah.
49:51
Maybe that's what I want to believe.
49:53
But yeah, I don't know.
49:56
I don't think so.
49:58
To me that doesn't read as somebody who has been possessed.
50:02
Oh, yeah, no, I don't think.
50:03
I don't think.
50:04
Currently.
50:05
It is possessed.
50:07
I wouldn't think so.
50:08
I wouldn't think so.
50:10
It just seems like demons got mad.
50:13
They were being called out in tight, antagonized.
50:18
Integinized.
50:19
And they threw some china down and wanted to fuck with your esophagus.
50:26
And I don't know, maybe it was just like scary you into not doing that again or I don't
50:30
know, maybe it was a phone.
50:32
I wonder where they go after.
50:35
It was like nothing happened after that.
50:37
I thought he said anyway.
50:39
They just got bored.
50:40
It's like the ADHD.
50:41
Yeah.
50:42
They were like, all right.
50:43
I can't possess that one.
50:44
I'll just go find another one.
50:47
Yeah.
50:48
Yeah.
50:49
All right, I wonder if it's like this rule and possession land where if you try to possess
50:53
someone and fail, like you can't try again for seven years.
50:57
Oh, and do you feel like seven years is like the do you think that feels like the
51:04
right number?
51:05
It's probably like 666.
51:06
They can try again for 600 to six years.
51:11
Do I say that again?
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I've not had one sip of alcohol.
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I really, I really, I cannot possess anyone for six hundred and six years.
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I don't know.
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Well, I hope send us more stories.
51:29
If you're shadow people do anything else, apparently they're just hanging around and
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you see them every now and then?
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I don't know.
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Hey, yeah.
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It's kind of hoping they would go away.
51:41
But I wanted to I wanted to think like they were protectors.
51:46
Maybe they were a new theory.
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Oh.
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I wanted to believe like the shadow people are protectors and just like watching over you.
51:55
But I was like, oh, but the bad, the really bad feeling.
51:59
But then I was like, what if the bad feeling is there and then the shadow people show up
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because something else is going on and they actually are protecting you?
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I mean, that could be.
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And just the scary thing you can't see it somewhere else.
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Diamonds.
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You don't know what that looks like.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I feel like that seems like a plausible explanation as well.
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Yeah.
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I just wanted to explore a couple lanes here.
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So you would see what we think.
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If you guys think anything different, let us know.
52:31
If you have more stories about shadow people and creepy like coffin dreams.
52:39
My God.
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Oh.
52:41
You can email them to us at pnwhonsonhomicide@gmail.com.
52:46
You can send us voice messages if you would like.
52:49
Can we get voice messages to our texts?
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Do you know?
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I'm not sure.
52:55
Let's test it.
52:56
Can you receive through those or is it just sending?
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I have no idea.
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I really have no idea.
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That's probably just sending.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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If they wanted to send us a voice memo, I'm sure they could through the text line.
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I think the website now has like a component where they can use.
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And if you wanted to record a voice memo and just send it to us through like our Google
53:25
form or send it as attachment to an email, you can do that.
53:31
There's so many different ways where if you really want to be the one to sort of voice
53:37
the story, at least even if it's just us, you have voice the story and have us still
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tell it, we would be honored.
53:48
Yeah.
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Like if you don't want to type it out, send a voice message, but you don't want your voice
53:55
on the pod, we can like retell it for you.
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Yeah.
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1000%. Totes.
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We'd love that.
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Yeah.
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Also, we'll send you stickers still if you give us your address and return.
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Yes.
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All right.
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Well, should we do a couple tarot reads for these?
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Yes.
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Stores.
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We're doing tarot for creepy people chronicle story.
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All the dang shadow people, crazy dreams.
54:31
I thought these candles would go really good together.
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So I'm burning this boys and apple candle that Caitlin got me so long ago.
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So long ago.
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And I just have the heart to burn it yet, but we're burning it today.
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And then I have the haunted circus candle from mythic wick.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I say it right.
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Yeah, you do.
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And that's like caramel apple, circus, like popcorn and smoke and fire or something.
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It's like ghostly like smoking fire.
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It smells so good.
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Oh, drawing for Clint.
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Four of cups.
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Four of cups has a cute ghost on it because it's from my cute ghost deck.
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Cute.
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So cute.
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It has four cups on it.
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Surprise, surprise.
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Shut.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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So we drew that upright.
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Correct.
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Okay.
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So the four of cups are keywords are withdrawal, rest, boredom, lack of inspiration, rest,
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sleepy.
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The four of cups in the writer, wait Smith and other decks depicts a loonsome person sitting
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beneath a tree.
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Some show a disembodied hand passing him or her a cup.
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The idea, the idea is that you've gone off on your own and art receiving what others
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hold out to you at this time.
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You may be withdrawing from your usual routine, work, friends, etc.
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In order to get in touch with yourself.
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Well, you know, self love is important.
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It's not a bad thing.
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Boundary setting.
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The upright four of cups symbolizes boredom and stagnation.
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You're not satisfied with your life at this time, but lack the incentive to make changes.
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You've detached emotionally from people and situations.
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Sometimes this card indicates you've sacrificed happiness for security.
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Which I feel is true of anyone living in late stage capital.
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Well, also just that statement, like sacrificing happiness for security, it's like he was laughing
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while trying to save his family.
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I don't know why that kind of just like the juxtaposition of that is very interesting
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to me.
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Yeah, thanks for the big word.
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Yeah.
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Oh, God.
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I needed it.
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If you're reading about money, this card can mean you're too attached to money and security.
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Perhaps at the expense of love and joy.
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Which I feel like you were just discussing off my cow.
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You might be experiencing one at the expense of another.
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Yeah.
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Perhaps you've prioritized money in the past and now seek meaning in other things.
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He just got a tarot deck.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I feel like it just is sort of symbolic of him seeking something and maybe trying to
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find some meaning.
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And I think honestly, if you do terror readings for yourself and also for others, I've frequently
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done them for family and friends.
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You'll find kind of little bits of wisdom that sort of, wow, I really needed to hear that.
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And it might not influence your life in some sort of crazy way, but it's just what you
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needed to hear today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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If the reading is about your job, you probably feel stuck and bored with your job.
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Which like, okay, same as who isn't.
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Less is this one.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty cool.
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I know, right?
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You may long for more creativity and enjoyment, but have opted for security instead.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you have to have it.
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Something you need.
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It's true.
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And with a family in particular, that's, you know, the security of you, of not just yourself,
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but your family, that really has to be paramount.
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Yeah.
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In a reading about love, the force shows you withdrawing affection and energy from a relationship.
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Perhaps routine has sacked your enthusiasm.
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This card also symbolizes a relationship based on security rather than passion.
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I feel like every relationship goes through phases.
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And I don't know if that's a phase that you're in right now.
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But it can be very easy to move a relationship from one phase to the next or to your specifically
1:00:02
desired phase.
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If you know, you kind of put in that time and that energy and the work to sort of make it
1:00:14
something that feels new and different, even if you've been in it for a long time.
1:00:19
Yeah.
1:00:20
You're so wise.
1:00:21
You're not even married yet.
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Not yet, but I mean, I have a way to do it.
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I mean, at the ripe old age of 25, getting married for the very first time.
1:00:37
Now I mean, I think, you know, it's always easier to think about these things in relation
1:00:45
to someone else and feel like you can weigh in a way that's meaningful and you can give
1:00:53
them insight in a way that, I mean, even someone that's close to you, probably maybe even more
1:01:01
sell someone that's close to you because not that, you know, we don't adore you, but just
1:01:08
that, you know, we're not as close to on the day to day to the situation.
1:01:14
We can just say, you know, maybe, you know, maybe whether it's a romantic relationship,
1:01:22
a platonic one, a work relationship.
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What if it's like your shadow person relationship?
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Maybe don't work on that one.
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If it feels monotonous and you don't want it to be, you know, there are avenues that you
1:01:37
can explore to remedy that.
1:01:40
Yeah.
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There's always something that can be done about everything.
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I mean, obviously not like with extremes, like you can't cure cancer.
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Like, you know what I mean, but like just normal stuff, like there's always something that
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can be done.
1:01:53
Right.
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When it comes to like relationship problems, when it comes to, you know, largely social issues
1:02:03
and, you know, your individual dynamics, those are things that they can be changed.
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We can work on that.
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Yeah.
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Well, should we draw for the next story?
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Actually, what I was going to say, we don't even know if this card relates to you, Clint,
1:02:24
but if it does let us know.
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We don't know what's going on over there.
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We're just reading from the book.
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So.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for your story.
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We love that.
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So much.
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We love hearing from Clint.
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It's always entertaining.
1:02:39
We always cry.
1:02:40
So that's like our, that's our thing now.
1:02:42
So you can never not make us cry when you send us the story.
1:02:46
Apparently.
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That is his thing of ours.
1:02:49
I cannot believe he's not going to make us cry and then proceeded to tell us the saddest
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dream.
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It's just.
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Okay.
1:02:57
Well, let's draw a story for, let's draw a card for next story.
1:03:05
Okay.
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This is definitely when I went and I picked one with Clint because I felt like I knew,
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but you got to, you got to do this one.
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I was in that region.
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It's been eyeballing me.
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Oh, the moon.
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Interesting.
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I was wearing a shirt that had the moon on it earlier today.
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That's so funny.
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Okay.
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Oh, this is all about like a nighttime dream.
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This is all about like secrets and shadows.
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Oh, shadow people.
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Secrets.
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What are your secrets, Nick?
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What are your psychro.
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Oh boy.
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This is so perfect.
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Oh my gosh.
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Moon is like totally like shadow.
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Like it's crazy.
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This is really interesting.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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He words are intuition.
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The unconscious.
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Oh, hello.
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Mystery illusion and secrets.
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I said secrets.
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What are your secrets?
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Nicholas, we're coming for you on Tennessee.
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I don't know if you still live there, not.
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I assume wherever you are.
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Once you still have an accent, you probably still live in Tennessee, right?
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That's how that works.
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I don't think so.
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I think you don't move and pick up the accent over you go, necessarily.
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I'm probably so offensive to this house.
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I deeply apologize.
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They love it.
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I love your accent.
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Bless your heart.
1:04:37
Bless your heart.
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Bless your heart.
1:04:42
The moon is a magical mysterious part that symbolizes the unconscious, the realm of dreams,
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imagination and psychic impressions.
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Crazy.
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Some deck show the moon as full, others in its crescent phase.
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Where some of it shadowed.
1:05:08
On the right-of-way smith's deck, two canines, a dog and a wolf, howl at the moon.
1:05:15
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.
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Oh, oh, interesting.
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Oh.
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Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.
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That's me, you guys.
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I have a crab on my foot.
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I probably don't want to show my foot, let's see.
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It's like a crab craw foot.
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You can't.
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You literally can't get it in frame.
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Can you see it?
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Kind of.
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Well, take a picture of it.
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I thought it was funnier to try to look at what's like you with your shoes.
1:05:59
At the bottom of the card is a pool or pond of water from which crawls a crab.
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Symbol of the astrological sign cancer ruled by the moon.
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Crawfish or lobster.
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Crawfish?
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Crawlfish.
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I like to think of it as being lobster.
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Because that's how it looks.
1:06:18
Yeah, lobster is delicious.
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The water suggests the moon's link with the emotions in the unconscious realm.
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Totally.
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Oh, I just thought like crawfish boil like in the south.
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I think yeah.
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That's the video.
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I was like, yeah, I've been there for days.
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You have to say it, Caitlin.
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Come on.
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Well, I mean, I don't.
1:06:42
If it relate with the card didn't know that this story was from the south.
1:06:46
But didn't it?
1:06:47
Didn't it?
1:06:48
It didn't know.
1:06:49
The moon urges you to pay more attention to your inner self, your lunar self.
1:06:56
Oh, didn't that last card kind of say that too?
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I think a little bit.
1:07:02
It's about self reflection.
1:07:03
I think in both of these instances, the light of the sun enables us to see the world around
1:07:12
us.
1:07:13
But the moon allows us to eliminate, illuminate, excuse me, illuminate what springs naturally
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from inside us.
1:07:25
So very cancer type stuff going on here.
1:07:30
I immediately cannot connect because it's very gushy.
1:07:35
Do you know it's very emotional?
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Yeah.
1:07:38
Well, do you know what that also reminds me of?
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What?
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Vomit.
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Oh.
1:07:43
What did it say?
1:07:44
Read that again.
1:07:45
It's delightful.
1:07:46
The light of the sun enables us to see the world around us.
1:07:50
But the moon allows us to illuminate what springs naturally from inside us.
1:07:56
Wow.
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Springs.
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Springs naturally from inside us.
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As a projectile from within.
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That's what it sounded like.
1:08:04
He was vomiting.
1:08:05
It is.
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Okay.
1:08:07
We've got an extra excerpt before our whole interpretation.
1:08:13
Evidence of moon worship is found in such widely buried cultures as those of the in a
1:08:21
saucy Indians of New Mexico, the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, pre-Columbian, Peruvians,
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Burmese, Phoenicians, and Egyptians.
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So basically every continent.
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Yeah.
1:08:39
Not shocking.
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No.
1:08:42
In the craft, when we refer to the great god by the Hebrew names, L or Elohim, we borrow
1:08:50
the new terms that entered Hebrew from Arabic, where the name "Ela" derives from a word
1:08:58
that means moon.
1:09:00
Hmm.
1:09:01
I had no idea.
1:09:02
Me neither.
1:09:03
Wow.
1:09:04
Okay.
1:09:05
Now we're going to get to your actual interpretation.
1:09:08
This is really interesting.
1:09:10
The moon upright shows you tuning into your lunar energies.
1:09:15
You're becoming more aware of your feelings and inner life.
1:09:20
The moon also suggests psychic ability.
1:09:24
You can sense other people's vibrations because you're connected to the information network
1:09:31
of the invisible world or an invisible string.
1:09:36
What?
1:09:37
That's crazy.
1:09:42
We talked about that.
1:09:43
Did we talk about that in this episode?
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It was not like a pat.
1:09:46
We've recorded three episodes today.
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Yeah.
1:09:49
We're actually bringing people.
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Yeah.
1:09:53
Oh, that's a...
1:09:54
Nick, are you psychic?
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Let us know.
1:09:56
Can you feel our vibrations?
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Okay.
1:09:59
Listen to this.
1:10:01
Pay attention to your dreams, feelings, instincts, and intuition.
1:10:08
For artistic people, the moon's appearance may indicate a time of increased imagination
1:10:14
and creativity.
1:10:16
I hear crows.
1:10:17
That's a good sign.
1:10:20
Interrating about money, this card recommends listening to your intuition as well as your intellect
1:10:26
in connection with a money matter.
1:10:29
I mean, that's pretty standard advice.
1:10:31
I feel like...
1:10:32
I feel like...
1:10:33
Solid.
1:10:34
However, don't make a decision based on emotion alone.
1:10:41
Which is...
1:10:42
I feel like that goes for money and pretty much everything else.
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Yeah.
1:10:47
The moon can also point to ups and downs, changing phases in a financial situation.
1:10:57
If the reading is about your job, the moon can mean a situation has a hidden or dark side.
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Hmm.
1:11:05
This isn't necessarily bad, but you may not be aware of all of the dynamics at work.
1:11:11
Well, shoot.
1:11:12
Nick, watch out.
1:11:15
Illusions or secrets may cause confusion.
1:11:20
If you begin something during the new moon, you may see things more clearly or a project
1:11:26
may reach culmination during the full moon.
1:11:31
Interesting.
1:11:32
Look up when the next new moon is, because I know boys probably don't usually care about
1:11:35
when the new moon is.
1:11:37
I mean, I'm obviously making a gender stereotype there.
1:11:41
You guys know what I mean.
1:11:43
Yeah.
1:11:44
Oh, it's soon.
1:11:46
Oh, it's soon.
1:11:48
Oh, it's...
1:11:49
Oh, it's just...
1:11:50
It's just happened.
1:11:51
Yeah, it happened two days ago.
1:11:52
So you missed your shot.
1:11:53
You'll have to wait until next new moon, which is...
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Oh, yeah.
1:11:58
Oh, yeah.
1:11:59
Oh, yeah.
1:12:00
Oh, yeah.
1:12:01
Next new moon, which is on July 5th.
1:12:04
Oh, interesting.
1:12:05
Okay.
1:12:06
When is the full moon?
1:12:08
Oh, sorry.
1:12:10
Two weeks' fish from now, let's see.
1:12:13
Full moon is June 21st.
1:12:15
Oh, wow.
1:12:17
Second day of summer, I think.
1:12:20
And then the July is July 21st.
1:12:22
Okay.
1:12:23
Cool.
1:12:24
Good to know.
1:12:27
Just making plans.
1:12:28
I mean, now those details, ironing out.
1:12:33
I don't know.
1:12:34
I might have said that weird.
1:12:36
That's okay.
1:12:37
Get over it.
1:12:38
You say most things when I'm just kidding, you don't.
1:12:40
I can't.
1:12:41
No.
1:12:42
In a reading about love, this card symbolizes a highly emotional relationship that may be tinged
1:12:49
with illusions.
1:12:52
Sometimes it represents a sensitive partner who nurtures you, especially creatively.
1:12:58
Or that you're working on issues of mothering and nurturing.
1:13:03
Interesting.
1:13:05
All right.
1:13:08
Our extra excerpt is extra long.
1:13:14
When looking for adventure in a dark and deserted landscape, we should ask only for the
1:13:21
light of the moon.
1:13:24
Men or imaginations can create more exotic explanations for the wrestling in the undergrowth
1:13:32
or the dark, bottomless voids, which open up ahead of us.
1:13:41
We comfort ourselves too much with light.
1:13:46
Sometimes we must wander in the dark so that our other senses can find their full expression
1:13:53
and we hear more clearly the message of the night.
1:13:59
The wilderness and the strange creatures that inhabit the unseen spaces.
1:14:06
Whoa.
1:14:07
That's pretty cool.
1:14:10
Kind of creepy though.
1:14:14
The creatures that came out of the dark in these stories are.
1:14:18
Yeah.
1:14:19
That's a lot.
1:14:21
But I don't know.
1:14:22
Maybe that goes to like what I was saying is like you can't see the bad thing and the shadow
1:14:26
people that you can see are the ones protecting you.
1:14:30
Maybe.
1:14:31
And you can't have shadow without light.
1:14:33
Oh, I don't know.
1:14:38
My body is.
1:14:40
Wow.
1:14:42
Well, both of you guys let us know if this is relating to your life or your, I mean,
1:14:49
obviously parts of them were relating to the story, but I mean, you don't have to tell
1:14:53
us your life.
1:14:54
But tell us if the card relates.
1:14:55
We like to know.
1:14:56
I like to tell us your life.
1:14:57
Like, feel free to tell us.
1:14:59
Yeah, you can tell us your life.
1:15:01
What's going on at work?
1:15:02
What's going on with this relationship that's very emotional and passionate.
1:15:06
I love it.
1:15:08
Well, that was cool.
1:15:12
I really like getting like a voice message story from people.
1:15:17
Yeah.
1:15:18
It's fun.
1:15:19
It gives people a break from hearing us read.
1:15:21
We're going to have to take a look before this one comes out and see if we can give their
1:15:27
guidelines on how to do the audio.
1:15:29
See that.
1:15:30
I mean, there's so many ways that I know people that are really motivated to do it.
1:15:37
They will just do that thing.
1:15:39
They will do the thing.
1:15:41
But I think we might have some resources.
1:15:47
Yeah, I need like an easy way to do something.
1:15:50
Show me where to click the button.
1:15:51
I'll do it.
1:15:52
But if I actually take extra steps, sometimes it depends.
1:15:56
We're all busy.
1:15:57
Yeah.
1:15:58
Yeah.
1:15:59
And I totally get that.
1:16:00
So I'm like, I can appreciate when there's like a shorthand for things.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, we'll have to take a look at that and see if we can figure out some ways to like
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make that a little bit easier for people.
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And maybe even for some people that don't feel like they're the most savvy in that arena.
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My self included.
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Yeah.
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That was fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hearing somebody else actually tell the story.
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I try to put myself in that person's shoes when we're reading somebody else's story.
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But to hear their voice telling it is clearly creates more of an emotional response from
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you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Physical even.
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It is.
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It's hard to argue with that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, should we go?
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It's pretty late at night here.
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I mean, you can't tell because you have no idea what time of day it is now anymore.
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You've blocked out the light, which don't do that in general, but like unless you need a
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room with controlled light and sound, that's just how we're living.
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That's how the curtain closes.
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Yeah.
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And could this.
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Should we do our thing?
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Let's do our thing.
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Okay.
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Have a creepy ass day.
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We'll see you next Tuesday.
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But like feel free to write us in between now.
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Yeah.
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Let us know what you're up to, what you're doing, how your day is going, what you had for lunch.
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If it was really interesting or spooky, if you got like a paranormal message from your
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tuna, you know, in the sandwich.
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I want a tuna paranormal message.
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Tuna paranormal on a five.
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A listen, you asked them, what did they have for lunch?
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Well, everyone stay away from, I don't want to see stay away from shadow people because what
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if they're not evil?
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Listen, just stay safe.
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Yeah.
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How about please stay safe.
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Do it feels right.
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If you're not safe and something happens, please let us know immediately.
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Especially from the afterlife.
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Well, don't die.
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Please.
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Listen, if they already died, like the least you could do is contact us.
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Oh, and we haven't said it in a long time, but this is also proof that these stories don't
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need to be from the Pacific Northwest.
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They could be from Tennessee or Canada.
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Well, I don't know what part of Canadian Clint is in.
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Oh, I mean also, visit Canada.
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Our friend from Canada.
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Yeah.
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(laughing)