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Trump's Three Big Targets With Xi · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 4: grateful to have you with us. Very big day, very
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  Speaker 4: big week. The President not very pleased at all with
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  Speaker 4: Iran's response to his proposal to draw that war to
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  Speaker 4: an end, and yesterday they kind of returned their rents,
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  Speaker 4: wash and repeat kind of tired solution suggestions, which included
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  Speaker 4: get them getting to keep the nuclear bomb. That's the
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  Speaker 4: non starter. That's the thing that the President has said
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  Speaker 4: from the beginning. No, we're not going to let you
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  Speaker 4: do that. They keep putting it back into the package,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, look, we're out of time. So here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing. I don't know when, but I think that
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  Speaker 4: I think that they're going to start getting some friendly
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  Speaker 4: little ordinances sent their way again, probably taking out their
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  Speaker 4: power lines, their power supplies, and the bridges that they
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  Speaker 4: used most frequently, most regularly. I think that's what's going
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  Speaker 4: to be the next series of targets, and then we'll
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  Speaker 4: see if beyond that, if they need to go in.
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  Speaker 4: They've already taken down like sixty percent of the top
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  Speaker 4: leadership of the IERGC, hoping that the IERGC will just,
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  Speaker 4: you know, eventually come to its senses and say, no,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be part of the radical stuff anymore.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to do actually good things. They can't seem
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  Speaker 4: to find any of those types of people, So now
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  Speaker 4: I think, and I think even the Iatola, if he's
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  Speaker 4: still alive, and I have no idea, nobody has seen
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  Speaker 4: him since supposedly he was named the successor, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that he probably was injured, like his brother, like
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  Speaker 4: his father, may be on his way to dying. That
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  Speaker 4: means that now they're just not they're very confused, as
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  Speaker 4: the President said yesterday, and he's not pleased with that.
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  Speaker 4: But set that to one side, because that's part of
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  Speaker 4: the context of this week. And then the other portion
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  Speaker 4: is you've got Trump and g and what's going to
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  Speaker 4: go down in their meetings. And I think that at
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  Speaker 4: least in my opinion, there's a lot of reasons why
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  Speaker 4: people might think that, you know, this meeting should happen.
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  Speaker 4: I've got three specific things that I want to see
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  Speaker 4: happen out of this meeting, and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: be shy about him. And number one is a big,
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  Speaker 4: big one. I want the President and the American delegation
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  Speaker 4: to communicate it at every level. And you have to
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  Speaker 4: know how these things work. So you've got you've got
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  Speaker 4: the underlings, and they've been talking for a while, and
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  Speaker 4: then you've got the ones just above them, and they've
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  Speaker 4: been talking a little bit, and then you've got a
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  Speaker 4: little bit higher and they're talking, and then you eventually
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  Speaker 4: get to like cabinet level people and undersecretaries and then secretaries,
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  Speaker 4: and eventually it gets up to the executive position. And
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  Speaker 4: so by the time G and Trump actually sit across
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  Speaker 4: the table from each other, everybody else that will be
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  Speaker 4: sitting at that table, all the way up and down
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  Speaker 4: the length of the table, we'll have already had several
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  Speaker 4: discussions about some of the things that are going to
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  Speaker 4: be discussed. And then the President will, you know, say
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  Speaker 4: what he has to say, G will say what he
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  Speaker 4: has to say. They're probably going to put forward suggestions
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  Speaker 4: to each other. I think that's the hope that there
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  Speaker 4: will be some cooperation that comes out of a summit
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  Speaker 4: like this there was in their last one in South
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  Speaker 4: Korea or where it was in February of last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we've got tariffs on certain things, and we're, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of being tough about that. But my hope is
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  Speaker 4: is that this process, that this process of sitting down
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  Speaker 4: with each other, being across from each other and understanding
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  Speaker 4: that you've got a limited opportunity to get face to
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  Speaker 4: face and to get something done. I hope that they
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  Speaker 4: take advantage of that, and I hope that the world
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  Speaker 4: is better off because of it. Now, let me just
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  Speaker 4: say this one of the things that President Trump can
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  Speaker 4: go in there and really and Trump is brilliant when
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  Speaker 4: using this thing called leverage. He uses leverage better than
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  Speaker 4: anybody else I've ever seen, and he uses it in
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  Speaker 4: creative ways. He doesn't always use the jackhammer. Sometimes he
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  Speaker 4: uses carrots. Sometimes he breadcrumbs you, and he pulls you
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  Speaker 4: along to exactly where he wants you to be, and
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  Speaker 4: he brings you to a better space. And I will
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  Speaker 4: say this about Trump's negotiations. Most of the time, whatever
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  Speaker 4: his final solution is is better for both sides. This
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  Speaker 4: is the thing that I think has been grossly overlooked
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  Speaker 4: about Trump. There's hardly ever a time where he goes
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  Speaker 4: into a negotiation and his side just wins one hundred
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  Speaker 4: percent and the other side basically goes to jail. Like
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  Speaker 4: it's not That is not how he normally does things.
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  Speaker 4: He understands that g has to have some sort of
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  Speaker 4: face saving win if he comes away from a from
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  Speaker 4: a summit with him and he's got to give him
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  Speaker 4: something to go back and tell his people, Hey, here's
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  Speaker 4: how we won. So I think that he's really good
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  Speaker 4: at this, and probably far better than anybody in the
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  Speaker 4: news has paid attention to. From the standpoint that even
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  Speaker 4: his opponent takes away something that's of value to them
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  Speaker 4: while he gets what he needs for the American people.
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  Speaker 4: I just that is just genius level negotiation at a
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  Speaker 4: whole different speed of light. But here's the thing that
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  Speaker 4: I think that he should go in there with very
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  Speaker 4: deft and determined jaw and say, and that is, g
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  Speaker 4: if you want to have any consideration from the United
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  Speaker 4: States for our markets, if you want access to the
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  Speaker 4: things you want to sell us, if you want us
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  Speaker 4: to be in any way communicative with you, sell you
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  Speaker 4: our soybeans, do whatever it is that you're wanting out
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  Speaker 4: of a relationship with us. You have to stop messing
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  Speaker 4: around to the Ukrainian conflict and stop messing around in
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  Speaker 4: the Iranian conflict. Now, in Iran, they've been buying black
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  Speaker 4: market oil for years, getting it dirt cheap, cheaper than dirt.
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  Speaker 4: Because the Iatolas starve their people, they're fine to take
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  Speaker 4: the lolo price and to sell them in mass quantity. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: g has also helped Russia with technology, helped talk North
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  Speaker 4: Korea into sending troops up to Ukraine, which got slaughtered immediately.
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  Speaker 4: North Korean troops are worthless, they're the worst trained. They
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  Speaker 4: just have no there's just there's no ability. But China
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  Speaker 4: has been kind of a behind the scenes chess player
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  Speaker 4: with Ukraine, and they've very much been a financial incentive
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  Speaker 4: for Iran. And those two things have to come to
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  Speaker 4: an end, I would say non negotiable starting point for
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  Speaker 4: President Trump to have a successful summit with g he
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  Speaker 4: needs to get them to understand that if they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be part of the good society, if they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be part of the world that's facing forward and
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  Speaker 4: not backwards. If they want to be considered a genuine
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  Speaker 4: welcome community to the community of nations, they have to
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  Speaker 4: do differently, and constantly empowering the bad guys is not
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  Speaker 4: the way to do it. In fact, it's about as
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  Speaker 4: stupid as a strategy as you can play. But she's
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  Speaker 4: glad to do it because he's getting cheap energy and
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  Speaker 4: he needs cheap energy. More on that coming up. But
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  Speaker 4: you've got to get China has to take their fingers,
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  Speaker 4: their grubby little myths off of Ukraine and off of Iran.
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  Speaker 4: And that may look impossible, and I've talked to a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people. I'm gonna ask people on today's show
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  Speaker 4: about it. Some people may say that's not doable at all,
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  Speaker 4: but I really question whether or not it is doable,
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  Speaker 4: because here's the thing. Yes, they're getting cheap oil from Iran. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: they're probably not going to get oil at that price
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  Speaker 4: from any legitimate country going forward. And maybe Russia's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit better, but they're still not really making them
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  Speaker 4: pay the appropriate price for the oil. President Trump has
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  Speaker 4: leverage when it comes to energy, unlike any president I've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen in my life. I think he can get
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  Speaker 4: an admission from China, that they will not interfere with
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  Speaker 4: the Ukraine or the Iranian wars any further, and that
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  Speaker 4: they'll just be a bystander on the sidelines. That would
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  Speaker 4: be a tremendous first number one priority to get out
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  Speaker 4: of them as they sit down with this summit in
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  Speaker 4: the very near future. Maybe you disagree that Kevin Show
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  Speaker 4: interested in hearing them. But that's what I would like
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  Speaker 4: to see one of the three things I would like
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  Speaker 4: to see President Trump do in his discussions with g
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  Speaker 4: coming up, and they're going to matter. He's also, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just saying this upfront, he's also ticked with Iran and
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  Speaker 4: he's I think he's going to start dropping bombs again
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  Speaker 4: on power plants and bridges and try to avoid human
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  Speaker 4: civilian casualties as much as possible. All Right, Calvin mccallough,
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  Speaker 4: That Kevin Show, that Kevinshow dot com always thrilled to
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  Speaker 4: have you with us, and always enjoying the idea that
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  Speaker 4: here at the beginning of the show, we can kind
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  Speaker 4: of set aside the worries of the day, the big
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  Speaker 4: headlines of the day, and just for a few minutes,
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  Speaker 4: ask ourselves the question, if the world is progressing in
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  Speaker 4: this way, if we're dealing with wars, if we're dealing
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  Speaker 4: with summits, if we're dealing with viruses and diseases, if
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  Speaker 4: we're dealing with things that are that are you know,
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  Speaker 4: threatening or looming in our future, how do we live?
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  Speaker 4: How do we live in a world that doesn't know Christ?
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  Speaker 4: How do we live in a world that may hate God,
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  Speaker 4: may have no use for his word, and really looks
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  Speaker 4: at us as they just don't understand us. There's just
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  Speaker 4: no way they can wrap their head around who we
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  Speaker 4: are or why we are the way we are. And
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  Speaker 4: that's why we asked the question, how do we live?
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  Speaker 4: How do we live in the midst of that? My
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  Speaker 4: argument is we stay on mission, we stay winsome, we
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  Speaker 4: stay plugged in, we get discipled, we keep growing, we
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  Speaker 4: dig deeper. That's the protocol in my mind. Doctor Dave
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  Speaker 4: Watson believes that with me. I believe I know this
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  Speaker 4: because not only is he a regular contributor here on
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  Speaker 4: the show, but he's also a very good friend. It's
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  Speaker 4: always fun to have people that I've gotten to know
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  Speaker 4: for a long period of time contribute to this as well,
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  Speaker 4: because I feel like we kind of read each other's minds.
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  Speaker 4: But this Sunday you did a very and this was
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  Speaker 4: a yeoman's job. Man. You went through thirteen women in
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  Speaker 4: scripture and came up with the Faith of our Mothers
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  Speaker 4: as a single sermon. I would think this would be
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  Speaker 4: a series that you could do. You crammed it all
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  Speaker 4: into one day, and I don't know how you did that,
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  Speaker 4: but I guess you're getting this week to kind of
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  Speaker 4: unpack it a little bit more. But yesterday we looked
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  Speaker 4: at we looked at Eve, Sarah and Leah, and today
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  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about Jakabd and rahab Uh. And
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  Speaker 4: it's the Faith of our mothers. What do we know
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  Speaker 4: about these these women, the courageous mother and the desperate mother.
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  Speaker 8: Well, jacobed, you know, she's she's not even named initially.
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  Speaker 8: When when when we when we you know, start start
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  Speaker 8: working through the text with her, you know, she's the
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  Speaker 8: mother of Moses, but she is a remarkable woman.
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  Speaker 5: And the context here.
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  Speaker 8: Is that that Pharaoh wants to kill all the male
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  Speaker 8: children because there are too many Jewish children being born.
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  Speaker 8: So the midwives in this context have been hiding uh
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  Speaker 8: the male children uh or or not giving them over
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  Speaker 8: right away. But the edict still stands. And now jacobed
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  Speaker 8: is faced with a choice whether or not she's going
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  Speaker 8: to uh to be pro life or she's going to
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  Speaker 8: give her son over to death, and uh it may
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  Speaker 8: cost her her life if she does the right thing,
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  Speaker 8: and she chooses to keep to keep her son. Nextus says,
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  Speaker 8: the woman can see bore a son, and when he saw,
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  Speaker 8: when she saw that he was a fine child, she
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  Speaker 8: hit him three months So it was a you know,
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  Speaker 8: a hiding of this boy, and and and kind of
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  Speaker 8: a you know, a crazy set of circumstances, uh that
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  Speaker 8: that we're there, But I just I like the fact
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  Speaker 8: that in this setting her and the midwives are are
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  Speaker 8: pro life.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to do whatever they need to do to
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  Speaker 5: save uh this child.
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  Speaker 8: And her name uh incidantly means yahweh my glory.
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  Speaker 5: And certainly she lives up to that.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: You know in in.
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  Speaker 8: Wanting to do what God wants her to do more
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  Speaker 8: than anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Well, go a little deeper into her story, because not
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  Speaker 4: only does she make the right decision and save Moses' life,
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  Speaker 4: she ends up getting to raise him anyway.
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  Speaker 5: That is that is incredible, isn't it.
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  Speaker 8: She You know, they're throwing the babies into the nile
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  Speaker 8: to drown, and she turns.
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  Speaker 5: It around and she uses the nile to save her.
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  Speaker 8: Baby by putting Moses in a in a small little boat,
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  Speaker 8: having his sister, you know who was safe because she
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  Speaker 8: was a girl.
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  Speaker 5: She's she's okay, she's a girl, you know, watches he's
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  Speaker 5: in the nile.
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  Speaker 8: She puts him there in a specific time period, uh
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  Speaker 8: where Pharaoh's daughter comes by. Pharaoh's paughter is looking for
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  Speaker 8: someone to nurse the baby. She can't do that. Miriam
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  Speaker 8: volunteers her mom and then she does get to raise him.
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  Speaker 5: We're not sure how long she gets to raise.
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  Speaker 8: Him for, but it seems to be a season a
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  Speaker 8: period of years that this gets to be the case. So,
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  Speaker 8: but he has a very strong Jewish identity.
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  Speaker 5: Now that there's there's one other thing that I think
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  Speaker 5: is fascinating. It may not be to others.
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  Speaker 8: But but how does Pharaoh's mom, Pharaoh's daughter know that.
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  Speaker 5: Moses is Jewish?
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  Speaker 8: I think because not only not only had Jacobin hit him,
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  Speaker 8: but she'd also had him circumcised, so it's clear he's
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  Speaker 8: a Jewish boy.
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  Speaker 5: So it is quite quite quite amazing her story.
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  Speaker 8: Pharaoh's eating didn't paralyze her, and and she she's in
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  Speaker 8: the Hall of Faith because she gave birth to the
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  Speaker 8: deliverer Moses. And you know, we say this to moms
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  Speaker 8: that your your kids are special. But but the baby
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  Speaker 8: that that you're raising is going to be someone who
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  Speaker 8: can change the world. And I think Jacobin certainly had
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  Speaker 8: that sense with her child. But I think all women
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  Speaker 8: should know that the baby that you're raising, the child
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  Speaker 8: that you've chosen to have chosen to keep, made all
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  Speaker 8: made the right decisions about that child, is going.
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  Speaker 5: To make an impact on the world. That's just something
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  Speaker 5: always good to remember.
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  Speaker 4: All right. So that's the story of Jacobed. The story
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  Speaker 4: of the Next Woman from Joshua two and six, I
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  Speaker 4: think is equally impressive, and she actually ends up as
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  Speaker 4: a very important figure in the history of the Messiah.
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  Speaker 8: She's she's quite quite a woman she's she's running a
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  Speaker 8: bed and brothel in Jericho. And the two spies remember
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  Speaker 8: Israel had sent out twelve years earlier and that had
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  Speaker 8: resulted in disaster. The two spies that are coming to
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  Speaker 8: look over Jericho.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, because they want to they.
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  Speaker 8: Want to, you know, destroy it on their way to
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  Speaker 8: the Promised Land are hidden by her. It would have
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  Speaker 8: not been a an unusual thing for a couple guys
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  Speaker 8: to go into the house that she had, so they
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  Speaker 8: were hoping not to not to raise any concern. She
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  Speaker 8: hides them because it did raise some concern. And then
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  Speaker 8: she comes up on the roof and said, listen, we know,
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  Speaker 8: we know, you guys are coming for us, and our
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  Speaker 8: hearts are melting.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want my family to die. What can we do?
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  Speaker 5: What can we do so that they might live?
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  Speaker 8: You know, we forget something, Kevin, that the children of
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  Speaker 8: Israel were two point four million in number, and they're
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  Speaker 8: not hiding on the other side of the Jordan River.
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  Speaker 8: I mean two point four million. That's the number of
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  Speaker 8: people who live in Brooklyn. So you have Brooklyn on
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  Speaker 8: the other side of the Nile excuse me, the Jordan River,
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  Speaker 8: on the other side of the Jordan river about to
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  Speaker 8: come over, and the Canaanites are scared. So she makes
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  Speaker 8: a deal with these guys and they promise that they
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  Speaker 8: will deliver her if she will put a scarlet thread
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  Speaker 8: in her window.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: She does, She's delivered.
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  Speaker 8: She becomes part of Israel, and by her faith, her
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  Speaker 8: desperate faith, she saves not only herself, but her whole family.
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  Speaker 5: Her name is kind of wild.
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  Speaker 8: It means to open oneself wide, which is you know,
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  Speaker 8: it's pretty fitting for a woman who ran a brothel.
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  Speaker 5: But what an amazing woman.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: And where do we find her? We find her in
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: the Hall of Faith. We find her in the Book
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: of James. We find her as part of Israel, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: we find her, guess what in the genealogy of Jesus Christ. Wow,
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: what a woman desperate faith.
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  Speaker 4: I think this speaks so strongly to not just the
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  Speaker 4: character and nature of the women themselves, but of the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: focus of their faith, the real trust of their belief
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  Speaker 4: that they put in the Messiah, that they put in
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: the God of the Bible, even though she was foreign
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: to him. And you know, the way she expresses herself
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to the Spies is that she knows that their God
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: is the one true God, and I just think that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for those that are listening today and you
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: have questions and you're thinking, well, I don't know, how
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: do I know? Well, how did Rehab know? She it
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: was an issue of belief and she put her faith
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: and trust in the God of Israel. And I just
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: think that that is an incredible thing. Dave Real quickly
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: thirty seconds. For people that may be in the Staten
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Island area this weekend, how do they find you? What
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: will you be preaching on and what time can they
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: come and be part of Calvary Chapel, Staten Island.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: Well, you can catch us eight thirty eleven fifteen thirty
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: Maple Parkway, Staten Isle in New York. I'll be talking
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: from the Book of Hebrews, the twelfth chapter. We're going
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: to be talking about how the Lord would strengthen us
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: and encourage us and help us through our difficult times.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: And you can catch us. You can catch me on
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the radio on WMCA.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: Every night at six pm with God in Our City
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: every weeknight at six pm on God in Our City
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: or on Sunday mornings, you can hear us live on
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: WMCA beginning at eleven thirty am. It's a privilege always
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: to share to minister to be part of the greater
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: New York area.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and friends, if you're listening in Honolulu, you can
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: tune in as well. So eleven thirty Eastern time and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: then six o'clock Eastern time at WMCA dot com. That's
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the Salem Teaching and talkstation here in New York. Pastor
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Dave Watson, thank you, thank you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Can't wait to be with you again tomorrow. Kevin, have
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: an amazing day.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: You got it. Kevin McCulloch, coming right back. Don't go
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: with the stick around for.
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: More off at Kevin next.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York. Fact Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough, glad you're with us. I hope that you
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: are planning to have some fun this summer. Maybe you're
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: gonna take the family on a vacation. Maybe you're gonna
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: come with us to Italy in September October. We've got
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: that trip. It's gonna be fun. Listen, before you do,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: do me a favor. Take a look at your at
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: your budget and what you've got planned, and think about
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the joy that you're going to have with your family
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: doing the fun thing that you're going to get to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: do it's probably going to be thousands of dollars to
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: go do it, Even if it's a short trip, it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: probably going to cost you a couple of grand to
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: get the family away and take the trip and buy
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the food and do all the things. Well, what if
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: you took ten percent of that and just said, you
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: know what, maybe maybe we're we'll cut out something here
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: or there, but we're gonna take ten percent of that
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: same amount and we're just going to bless one kid
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: with a trip this summer that's going to blow his
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: mind and completely catapult him to a different place in
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: life emotionally, spiritually, maybe intellectually, maybe relationally with other people.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things I remember about growing
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: up and going to a Christian summer camp was that
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I developed friendships with people I would have never had
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the chance to meet. And to this day, some of
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: those people are still very close friends of mine fifty
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: six years later. Like, this is not this is not
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: a pie in the sky kind of idea. You're touching
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: these kids in a very real way, and relationship is
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: just part of that. Tom Traddap is back with us
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: to talk about the amazing program of the Angel Tree Camps.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: You've been working with them longer than I have, Tom
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: and you've seen it up close. But when you're talking
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: about even some of the counselors at some of the
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: camps in all fifty states, they are former Angel Tree
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Camp recipients that went to camp, somebody paid their way,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: and now they've come back to help this new generation
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: of kids find Jesus, know the Lord, get their life
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: straightened out, and have an experience that is unforgettable. I mean,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: it is such a joyous thing to see this kind
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: of unadulterated good that is going on with Angel Tree Camps.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: You raised two things that were great aspects of the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Angel Tree camping program. One of them is that you
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: made these friends who you still stay in contact with,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: whether they're pen pals or they're sending emails or you
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: get on the phone with them. There's a little boy
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: named Joseph who we've heard from. He's so excited he's
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: going back to Angel Tree Camp this year. It'll be
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: his second time at camp, and he said four of
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: the kids who were in my cabin last year are.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Also coming back.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So they stay in touch and they're all going to
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: be in the same cabin with the same counselor, so
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: that kind.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Of that's special.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: It really makes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Something that they look forward.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: To all your law.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: And secondly, when you mentioned the part about the counselors,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who started out as an
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Angel Tree kid, a boy or girl who went to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: camp on a scholarship like you were asking listeners and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: viewers to come forward with. But then they went on
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: finished college, or went to finished high school, went on
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to college, finished college, and then they come back and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: work with Prison Fellowship. It's a great nonprofit organization started
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: by Chuck Colson years ago, and they become a counselor,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: and in a couple of cases, people that I've talked
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: with have become camp directors.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: So they have devoted.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Their lives to the Angel Tree program because not only
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: does it help kids during the summer, but there are
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: also sports camps at other times of the year. At
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Christmas time, Angel Tree provides a Christmas gift from the
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: incarcerated parent with a special note from them and a
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Bible attached. It's a wonderful, wonderful program with great people
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: who have a heart for g Jesus and They just
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: look forward to molding these children from introverted, unhappy kids
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: who are trapped in a hot city or a bad
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: neighborhood into a happy summer camper and if they get
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: to spend a week in the fresh air horseback riding
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: or swimming, or archery or the other things. Hugh Hewitt
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: always mentions lanyards. I never made a lanyard in my life,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: nor do I want to know what one is. But
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: he goes every year he goes crazy, got a lanyard
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: a camp. It's an experience I can'll never forget. So
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: trust me, it's an opportunity to turn a child's life
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: around from being part of potentially the criminal justice system.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: If they don't break that cycle of crime, they end
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: up repeating their parents' footsteps. This is a chance to
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: really turn things around and bless them with a gift
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: that won't harm you financially. Maybe have to tighten your
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: belt a little bit, as haven't said, but it will
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: truly bless them for eternity.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I happen to live in maybe one of
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the most expensive places in the country, so if I
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: want to have a date night with my wife, it
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: is very uncharacteristic if we can ever come out of
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: date night at under two hundred dollars for just a
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: nice dinner in the city and some time together, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: that's just a gas and that's that, and that's why
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: we only do it about once a month because we
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: have to live on a budget. But friends, I'm saying,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you consider that, and you think about well, for instance,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: if I drive my kids through the drive through of
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Chick fil A on a weekend, which is only Saturdays
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: because they're not open on Sundays. But if we do
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the drive through Chick fil A, I think it costs
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: us getting what everybody their normal order is. I think
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: it costs us exactly forty eight dollars and fifty nine cents.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And I know that it cost us forty eight dollars
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: and fifty nine cents because I've paid exactly that amount
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: on my credit card many weekends in a row going
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: through the Chick fil A drive through, paying forty eight
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: dollars and fifty nine cents. Well for two more dollars
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: and four weekends where we maybe stay home and have
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: peanut butter in the middle of the day on Saturday
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: instead of going to the Chick fil a drive through
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: one for one month. We could make a kid's camp
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: dream come true. If you need to give two hundred
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: dollars a month for the next two years and make
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: sure that you know forty eight kids or twenty four
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: kids get to go to camp, then do that. Do
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: whatever God prompts your heart to do. I'm not here
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to tell you that part of it. I just I
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: just get to tell you about how good it's going
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: to be for the kid and how I'm just jazzed
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to get to be a part of it, to see
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: that joy come into their life. Here's the phone number.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: It's eight eight eight two oh six two seven ninety
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• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Go to that kevinshow dot com, click the angel tree
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  Speaker 4: eight eight eight two o six two seven ninety four.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough coming ride back.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York. Fact Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Welcome back. It is that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: com where every single day we are trying to kind
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: of break through the chaos with some common sense and
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: hopefully give you some things to think about as we
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: go through the top headlines of the day. Also, I
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: love to talk about things like money and travel and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: wellness and other things as well. And Linda Perillo, who
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: is a good friend, also joins me on Tuesday nights
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: with a local radio show in the New York area
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: on AM nine seventy The Answer here in New York
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: nine seventy. Answer dot com is where you can listen online.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: But she is the iconic Perillo family. Yeah heard that
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: her dad was on TV all through the seventies. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: remember Linda growing up in Texas watching your dad on
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: TV commercials and I always thought, Wow, he lives in
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: New York and he takes people to Italy. That is
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: just the coolest thing in the world. I wonderful let
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: and here I'm now partners with his daughter on a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: weekly radio show.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: But it's crazy, you've.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Got a best seller out. It's all about your life,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: your kids and if people are just tuning in, you've
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: raised eight of them, so you know a little bit
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: about it. My bride over the weekend, handt to virus
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: hantavirus hantavirus. What do you think, what's the latest? What
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: do we know? Is this going to be COVID all
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: over again? What does Linda Perillo think about hand to
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: virus and its impact on how people should be thinking
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: about travel right now?
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: Well, I think I had mentioned this to you that
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: Gene Hackman's wife died of Hanta virus, and you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: in almost fifty nine years on this earth, that was
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: the first time I had ever heard of Hanta virus.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And it is rodent transfer rodent feces.
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: But if you listen to these infectious disease doctors, they're
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: saying transfer from human to human is actually difficult. So
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: you either have to come in direct contact with the
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: feces or be with somebody that's a carrier.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And the incubation period it could be up to forty
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: two days.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: That's a long time, so like husband and wife, somebody
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: that's been infected. If you read the history of this
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: cruise where it originated.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: The guy, the first guy that got it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: Was in god knows where where the heck was he
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: Kevin in some weird show.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's going there. And then they're going on.
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: These cruises that go to these interesting places that are
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: weird that I would never go on, Not that that
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: has anything to do with it, but the ps in
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: this is I am not a look knock Wood, right,
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: I am not afraid of I'm afraid of other things.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Before.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: I'm afraid of hands the virus. I'm afraid of cancer
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: before I'm afraid of hand virus. I'm afraid of an accident.
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: I'm afraid of my seventeen year old who just got
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: his license in the last six months getting into a car.
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: Like those are the things, well, those are the things.
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: What I'm saying is, those are the things that concern
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: me on a day to day. I don't this is
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: a pandemic. I think that the press is going to
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: run with this like they ran with COVID, and I
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: think that it will. This is just my own opinion
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: and I could be wrong. I think it will fizzle out.
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: And I don't think we should be overly concerned, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: not going on a cruise. I think if you go
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: on a cruise, should you be concerned about neurovirus? Concerned
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: in the back of your head, you know, do all
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: the right protocol, wash your hands, use a hand sanitizer,
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: don't lick your fingers if you put.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: It in an elevator bar or what. These people are
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: drunk all over the touching every.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: But my point is we can only do what we
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: can do, right, We can only do the prophylactic preventative
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: things that we can do.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Anything else is in the Lord's hands.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Well that's unfortunately, right, It's all in the Lord's hands.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: And here's the thing that I really think is quite astounding.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Everything that we were told that COVID was going to
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: be turned out to be not true, and everything that
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: those of us that were kind of on the conspiracy side,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: and I was called a conspiracist even though I didn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: have any conspiracy theories. I just asked questions, Okay, so
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I see that this is being said about this, well
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: would this work? But I still got labeled as one
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: because pushback against any of the smart people in the
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: room was always like, you know, well you questioned doctor Fauci,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: you must be, you know, an idiot. But that all
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: turned out to be false and wrong and backwards. So
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I think the American people, number one, are way way
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: way less trusting of anything coming from health right now,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: especially you know, from the government. And I think that's
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: kind of non denominational regarding party. I don't care if
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: you're republic un a Democrat. I think people just right
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: now in general look at the the governmental programs and
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: they go, well, government is the one saying that what
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: what are the medical people actually saying? Which is? Which is?
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I think the more reasonable way to go about it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: And if we had done that with COVID, we would
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: have had we would we would not have had you know, thousand,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: tens of thousands of seniors dying in nursing homes because
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Cuomo would have said, I shouldn't probably put old people in,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: you know, in close contact with people that are positive
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: when we knew that overweight and age were the two
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: biggest contributing factors to the reason people were dying.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: From COVID well unhealthy, right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: So this is different. There's no aerosol component to the hantavirus.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: You have to come into contact with it physically. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: even people that are being exposed to people that have
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: had it, unless they have some sort of intimate contact
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: with them, they're not It doesn't look like they're getting it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: But we'll keep our eye on it and we'll watch it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want to minimize something that may be the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: same time. I'm not ready to I'm not ready to
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: shut all of the world down to paranoia.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the paranoia.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: And you know, listen, I'm Italian. We are paranoid of everything.
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: And yeah, and this is not one of the things
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: that is like overtaking my brain. There are things that
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: overtake my brain a lot. The hantavirus is not.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: It's there, right, we have I live, like I said,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I live in the woods. I mean we've had mice
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: in the house.
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: We had I mean, like it just happens. You live
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: in the suburbs Kevin. There are rodents everywhere. And here's
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: the other thing, do you know, I mean, I could
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: admit my age. I'm going to be fifty nine in July.
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: I'm a foodie and I've traveled a lot. I mean,
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: do you know how much garbage And I'm going to
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: use that word garbage I must have eaten in my
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: lifetime and been exposed to that you don't even realize
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: you've eaten.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's part of how we keep our immune systems bolstered.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: As we get exposed to and our body fights it off.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: But the protocols for co COVID actually reversed that trend,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: and people then became even more immune susceptible because they
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: hadn't been fighting off the bacteria and viruses during that time.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: So anyway, common sense needs to prevail. Hey, Linda and
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I are leading a trip to Italy. If you have
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: not signed up for it, you are running out of
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: time and we are running out of seats, and it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: going to be incredible. Four days in Rome, four days
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: on the Amalfi Coast, Capri, Positano, Sorrento is where we
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: will be. You're just gonna kick yourself if you don't
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  Speaker 4: Policy Institute all weighing in today on some of the
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  Speaker 4: big big stories, which are going to include Iran and
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  Speaker 4: China both. I'll be getting directly into this with KT shortly,
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  Speaker 4: but in the first hour I opened with a premise
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  Speaker 4: that you know they want to do, and then you you,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. I think you've got to get really tough,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: really fast. But there's two other things I would like
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: to see the Trump administration push for, and I just
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: learned of one today. Overwhelmed G and the Chinese delegation
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: with America's true AI dominance. Now, they're trying to build
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: energy plants and bring them online as fast as they
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: can to put up, you know, energy farms so that
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: they can farm enough power to have AI really do
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: what they need AI to do. America already has AI
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: dominance on the planet. We've already got power grids, We've
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: already got power farms, We've got a lot of things
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: that are going on. We're gonna build more, We're gonna
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: do more. We should be powering them with nuclear but
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: we're going to do them with with fossil fuels. We're
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: going to do them with coal. We're gonna do them
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: however we need to do. We're gonna, we're gonna put
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: these data centers in, these these these power farms in
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna we're gonna. We're not going to let
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: China win that. We cannot. We cannot allow them to
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: win the AI battle because if they do, they're going
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: to express military dominance over the rest of the world,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: and we can't allow that to happen. They can't be
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: allowed to become the only pre eminent superpower on the planet.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: So what's he doing by way of AI?
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: What?
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: What? What is the what? What? What should we promise?
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: What should we do? What should we focus on in
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: relationship to this topic. Well, one of the things that
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: the President's doing that I think is really smart is
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: he's bringing all the tech bros on Air Force one
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: with him. So you got Musk, you've got the head
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: of Apple, You've got the head of a couple of
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the other chat GPT and some of the others that
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: are that are working on the AI next gen development
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna they're gonna have very candid discussions and say, look,
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  Speaker 4: we are the dominant AI force to be reckoned with,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and we can do it so easily, and we can
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: do it pristinely, and you can't stop us. They need
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: to overwhelm and intimidate the Chinese delegation with the AI
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: dominance just so that they simply understand that America is
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: not behind and we're not going to fall behind that
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: with Trump, what we're going to do is we're going
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: to press forward and maintain the advantage as best we can.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: And the partnership between Trump and Elon alone is going
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: to change that conversation. Because everybody thinks that Elon is
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: on the outs with Trump. He's actually not. He never
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: has been. But China really likes Elon. They think his
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: cars are cool, They like the stuff that he does
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: by way of the space stuff and all the rest
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: of that. Well, he can have a powerful role in
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: discussing this stuff with them, and just by being there,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: sitting next to Trump or being on Trump's side of
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the table, it's going to mean something to all of
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: the Chinese negotiators that are there and the different levels
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: of who they are meeting with and I think that
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: is I think that that is important on a couple
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: of different levels, but mainly it says to ge technologically,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: you're not going to get an advantage in the tech sector,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: and you're not going to get the advantage long term
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: militarily because of that advantage in the tech sector. And
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: we reserve the right, by the way to use our
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: advantage to cripple you militarily if we feel threatened or
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: in need to. They got to be straightforward about this.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just pussy foot around. You've got to actually
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: say what you mean and do demonstrate the truth of
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  Speaker 4: what you're saying at every turn. But I feel like
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: this is the this could be, if done properly, the
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: slide of hand, single stroke that more masterfully produces a
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Trump win across more areas of policy and impact than
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: anything else he could do here in the early part
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: of his second term. I want to know what it is.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: It's this simple cut, an energy G cut, an energy
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  Speaker 4: deal with g that he cannot refuse. Tell him, you're
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: buying oil from Iran at this rate, You're buying oil
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: from Russia at this rate. They're dirty sources. You have
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: to clean it up. You have to refine it, you
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: have to do all that mess. This is what you're paying.
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  Speaker 4: This is how much you're getting for it. You think
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: you're getting a deal. It's all black market. You're not
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: in good standing with the rest of the global community,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: et cetera, etc. And then he goes. But if you
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: allow America to begin to be your energy supplier, we
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: have more natural gas and cleaner oil than anybody else
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: on the planet. We can supply your needs and never
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: even touch or come within a threatening touch of hurting ours.
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  Speaker 4: We have that much energy at our disposal. And remember
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: we have control of the Venezuelan energy. We may soon
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: have control of the Iranian energy. But we've got a
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: lot of energy at our bosal. Encourage China to come
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: out of the shadows. No more black market stuff. Cut
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: them a price on the public market that is the
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  Speaker 4: lowest that it can possibly be, because we have more
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: volume than anybody else, and ask him to cut that deal. Now,
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: what does that do. Well on a couple of things,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: it's very practical. On the Russian front, you bankrupt Putin
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: because Putin needs China to buy a lot, lot of
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: his illegal oil to keep his wars going. There may
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: already be riffs here because you're seeing Putin talking about
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: maybe heading home before long. Who knows, but it would
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: put at least a little division between Putin and g
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: which is really in our interest to not have them
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: acting in unison. Secondly, it ends Chinese relationship with the
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Iatolas and the horrendous, heinous people in charge in Iran.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: We don't have to go through a strait of anything
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: to get it to him. We just sail straight across
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: the ocean. There is there is zero delay in terms
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: of what America can deliver to China. We can do
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: the same thing to Europe, and we should be. We
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: should be going country to country in Europe saying we
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: can get you energy at a lower cost than what
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: you're paying. Let us be your primary supplier. We could
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: do that in a heartbeat. What that would do with
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Russia and Iran, though, is it would completely begin to
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: cut off sever the relationship between them and China, which
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: does not benefit China a great deal. They buy cheap
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: stuff from them to burn in their plants as energy.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: They would get higher density, better quality, cleaner energy from us.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Our energy producers would make money, our economy would get better,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the price of energy across the board would drop, and
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: you would be taking a different approach with g As
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: opposed to always having hostility language involved, you're now talking
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: about with him looking at it from a a mutually
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: beneficial standpoint. He may still be a hostile power, but
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: at least you're talking about doing things from a mutually
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: beneficial standpoint. And I think that that could be a
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: really huge deal. So what do I want out of Trump?
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: I want him to get China to sever their relationship
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: to the Two Wars. I want them to be completely
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: impressed by our tech bros as they roll up with
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the President. And I want the President to cut an
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: energy deal that would make China customer of the US
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: for years to come, peeling them away from Iran and Russia.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: We'll see it probably won't happen, I'm being told all
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: over the place. It's kind of pie in the sky.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: But that would be That would be the three things
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: I would want to see happen if I could get
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: into President Trump's.
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  Speaker 4: That Kevin mccolla, all right, welcome, in it's the Tuesday edition,
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  Speaker 4: and you know that every Tuesday we focus a little
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: more on foreign policy than some of the other days
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  Speaker 4: of the week, and I'm very glad to do that.
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  Speaker 4: us KT. Always a pleasure to have you here. I'm
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  Speaker 4: reading this morning that and I wrote about it at
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  Speaker 4: town Hall that you know, Trump and g are going
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: to meet. They're going to talk about a number of things.
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  Speaker 4: The top three priorities I would like to see the
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  Speaker 4: President focus on would be to expressed to China in
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: the strongest of terms that it's really not in their
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: interest to continue meddling in either the Ukraine or the
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Iranian wars, that they should understand that technology is something
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: that America is going to dominate, and he's going to
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: have all the tech guys with him. I think the
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: tech bros being on Air Force one is just the coolest.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing I really want him to do is
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: to slice up a deal and make this possible to
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: sell liquid natural gas to China in enormous amounts and
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: basically have them cut off Iran and Russia from their
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: energy supply and in some ways deepen a relationship with
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: US that begins to peel them away from that axis
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: of evil a little bit at a time. That's what
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I would love to see him do. What would you
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: like to see him do?
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  Speaker 6: Well? I think those are all great, and I think
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: that the first one is achievable, maybe kind of, I'll
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: say something nice. The second one is definitely China wants
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: to have continued economic relationships and trade relationships with the US.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: The third one and we'll see, but that would be
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: a great pitch for President Trump to make to China.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: The reason China doesn't want to get off of Iranian
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: oil and get onto American oil loquified natural gases because
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: ours is more expensive. China buys from Iran at a
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: greatly discounted rate because it's illegal, and China doesn't care
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: of it. It's illegal. China doesn't care that Around has
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: been sanctioned. China cares about cheap oil, cheap gas, and
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: ad buys from Around for that reason. I think that
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: when you look at why is President Trump doing this
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: trip and it's the tech bros, it's for a couple
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: of reasons, mostly with regard to trade. We want China
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: to buy our agricultural products. We want to buy from
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: China rare earth minerals, which we don't have any of
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: our own, but we're quickly on the way to getting them.
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: China's interest in this is they want to buy our
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: microprocessing chips and they want to sell to the American consumer.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: Now China us more in this trade. Then we need them,
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: but we both need each other. And what I think
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: the President is trying to do is say, Okay, let's
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: regular You know, we're not going to give up on
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: the fact that we're strategic competitors, potentially strategic adversaries, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: what we want to do is regularize our trade. Relationship
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: in the meantime, and that's a good goal. That's a
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: good goal for us, and it's a good goal for China.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: The Iran part of it, though, is the more interesting
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: and a lot of ways more interesting question, because China
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: needs Iran's oil. China needs the oil that it gets
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: out of the entire Middle East region that it's not
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: getting now. It's not just Iran, but it's oil from
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: Iraq and saudiast and UAE. None of that is getting
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: to China right now. And so the Chinese have a
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: real incentive to work with us to close this war out,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: to open the straight, to open the golf, in other words,
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: to pressure Iran to cut a deal.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: So this is going to happen concurrently with what some
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: experts are saying will be a resumption of kinetic activity
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: in Iran. And I'm curious, first of all, do you
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: agree with that premise. It seems like the President was
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: very put out yesterday with this kind of laughable response
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that the Iranians made to the most recent ceasefire proposals,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: and he has said they have been running on fumes
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: when it came when it comes to extended time to
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: cut a deal, to begin with, do you think that
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: he will resume that activity and would it be to
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: his advantage for it to be going on while he's
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: in China talking with g.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: I honestly don't think he's going to do it while
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: he's in China, just because that said a lot of
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: moving parts, and it really will detract from what I
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: think will be a very successful trip with China and
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: a trade trip. Will he resume Yes, I think he will.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: If I were advising him, I would say, immediately open
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: up the straight, So resume project freedom. Whether it's the
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: United States escorting vessels, whether it's the United States providing
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: defense against anything Iran could do to attack those vessels
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: going through. But open that right away, because that will
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: have the biggest effect on the global price of oil
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: and therefore the gasoline price that we're paying at the pump.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: And at the same time, I would say, yes, we're
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: in you know, resume military actions. Certainly keep the blockade
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: for a long time, but resume military actions to convince
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: Iran to have a serious negotiation. But these are really
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: two different things. One is open up the straight and
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: the other is Iran, will you do a deal with us?
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: And as long as the straight is closed, there's pressure
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: against us because of well the pressure against the world
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: because of the high oil prices as long as the
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: blockade is in place. So those are two different things,
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: as straight upward moves being closed by Iran and then
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: the blockade that we're imposing on Iranian vessels. That hurts
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: Iran and that frankly hurts and anybody who's buying sheep
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: Iranian oil. So I think both of them to be
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: addressed immediately upon return. But I think you can't just
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: expect a run to come back now with some kind
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: of a reasonable proposal.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: They're done.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: Nobody thought they were going to come up with a
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: reasonable proposal to begin with. They are they are games players.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: That's they're totally that's.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: Wash rensid and repeat. You know, have a negotiation, delay
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: a greater part of it. Let's renegotiate it. It's washed
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: rensid and repeat.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Yes, as you.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: Said, delay, delay, delay, So President Trump was pretty clear
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: when he said, I'm not even going to read that.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: It's just such garbage their proposal. So I think he's
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: concluded that, Okay, we've given every opportunity for a round
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: to have an off ramp. Every opportunity for around to
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: negotiate now around a plan.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: B Iron despite being blockaded and having these the ceasefire
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: to the degree that it is in place, has been
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: firing missiles and drones that people like the UAE. I'm
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: hearing rumors that the UAE is getting ready to respond
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: as well. Will we see more of that from Abraham
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: accord members taking on their own defense and saying, you're
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: going to shoot stuff at us, We're going to shoot back.
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be crazy not to shoot back, right, every
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: country should defend itself. And I think the irony and
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: what probably Run didn't anticipate is by attacking the golf
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: Arab countries UAE, particularly that the UAE and other golf
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: Arab countries would fight with Israel on the side of
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Israel and the United States against Iran. And when all
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: the dust settles, I think that what you will see
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: is the Abraham of course, which are originally a trade
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: relationship and diplomatic relations, is now going to have a
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: military component where Israel and these golf Arab countries will
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: unite or somehow have a security relationship with each other
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: to pledge for their mutual defense. Israel is already loaning
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: or giving or selling to the UAE the Iron Dome.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how close to the midterms can this run and
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: not impact what the Republicans need to do to not
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: just hold the House, but maybe win a couple of seats.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: They're winning a lot of redistricting battles right now. It
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: looks like they could pick up some seats. But what
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: do they have to do to not feel the impact,
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: particularly of the pump prices come November.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the key.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: Is to get the oil flowing again and kick global
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: oil flowing again.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: We've got our own oil.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: We've got plenty of our own oil. Where the world's
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: largest oil exporters, the world's largest liquefied natural gas exporters
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: ISS you said at the beginning, But the global price
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: is affected, and it's affecting the price at the tank,
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: at the gasoline stations for American energy consumers, and it
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: also is having an effect on anything made in America
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: because gasoline is in part of all of our production
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: in manufacturing and transportation and foods, et cetera. So you've
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: got to get the price down, and the best way to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: get the price down is to open the straight of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: our moose.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: Even though we don't need the straight for ourselves.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: It's not us, you know, it's it's it's a global price.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: It's like a straw going into a big cup. And okay,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: so we have enough of our own, but other countries
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: draw on the drinking through that straw of the cup.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: So yeah, it's really we've got to sort of do
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: it for everybody else, even though it is for everybody else,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: because that everybody else part of it affects us. You know,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: we the trade route through the Middle East, through the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: Strait of hourmoves, that's not our trade route. That's Europe,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: Middle East Asia, that's stuff going you know, the Europeans
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: are affected by it. Obviously, there's anybody in the Middle
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: East trying to buy or sell anything that goes to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: their forest, and big, big person country is impacted is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: everybody in Asia, but particularly China. That's where all their
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: energy comes from. That's where something like fifteen twenty percent.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: It's not just around so oil, it's you know, as
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I said, it's all these other countries.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: Yea, So it's and.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: Its total energy needs of China is about all that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Middle East oil together is probably fifteen percent. That's a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: huge hit for Chinese industry to take if they're not
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: getting fifteen percent of their energy needs being that, which
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: is where.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I think the US could strike a deal. And even
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: if we had to deflate prices artificially for a period
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: of time, I think just peeling them off would be
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: an incredible strategy. But we'll see. I mean, I'm certainly
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: not the expert in this conversation. You are, and we
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: always appreciate your insights. Katie MacFarlane, thank you so much.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: It's a pleasure. Thank you.
• 1:01:32
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  Speaker 3: They get three squares a day where they sit together
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  Speaker 3: with other kids, all of whom have a mom or
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  Speaker 4: And I really believe it's the best thing. I had
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that they tell me is that,
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  Speaker 3: deal and never seen one of those before.
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  Speaker 5: Is breakfast. A lot of them never get breakfast.
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  Speaker 4: To go back to be like not worried about Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: back with us from the America First Policy Institute and Jacob,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a one note pony for the last sixty
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: something days, maybe seventy days now, But where are we
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: when it comes to actual progress and what does it
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: look like it would in terms of the long term
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: effect of this Two reasons I ask. One, it does
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  Speaker 4: not seem like, even with Iran's latest proposal, that they're
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  Speaker 4: being very serious about the situation, and we do have
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: pending midterms that I don't think Trump wants to create
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: long term havoc for those efforts because of this conflict.
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  Speaker 4: Can we chew gun come and walk at the same
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: time with Iran? I guess is what I'm asking.
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  Speaker 14: Well, it's always an honor to be with you, Kevin
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  Speaker 14: and your listeners. Thank you for having me on. I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 14: think the short answer is yes, And just stepping back,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 14: where are we so? Operation Epic Fury began February twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 14: You know, it has achieved all of its military objectives.
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  Speaker 14: As the President outlined, we do have the strait in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 14: its current condition. That is something that the planners have
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  Speaker 14: known about.
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  Speaker 2: Even before the operation was launched.
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  Speaker 14: We knew this would be Iran's only lifeline basically, so
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 14: they're using it to hold the world hostage effectively and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 14: to try to prevent us from holding them accountable and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 14: getting the results that we need out of this. And
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 14: what we need ultimately is an end state in which
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 14: Iran gives up forever its nuclear ambitions and which and
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 14: by default as well, stops being a threat to the
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 14: American people. And so again we've gotten a lot of
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 14: the way there as far as degrading Iran's military capabilities,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 14: that was the objective of Epic Fury that we had
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 14: as well Project freedom, securing the freedom of navigation, and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 14: the blockade, which, as let's say now, is you know,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 14: Iran is several weeks away or potentially several months depending
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 14: on which estimate you look at, away from collapse. This
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 14: is having a tangible effect on hurting the regarding regime directly,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 14: which which is important for us because this is what
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 14: will affect their decision making, their intent to change their course,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 14: which of course today they aren't doing. The proposal they
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 14: sent back over the weekend of the President, as he said,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 14: was insufficient.
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  Speaker 2: Again, they want to.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 14: Retain that nuclear weapon ability. They want to you know,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 14: continue to flot harm. But the other piece of this
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  Speaker 14: too is that we've gotten the regime where we want
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  Speaker 14: them at the moment, and that is in a state
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  Speaker 14: of chaos for their planning purposes. So how does this
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  Speaker 14: all continue?
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  Speaker 2: Where does this all go.
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  Speaker 14: You mentioned the midterms as well, and for our listeners
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  Speaker 14: it's important as well. Look, you know that the price
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  Speaker 14: goes up and down of energy. It isn't the highest
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  Speaker 14: it's been historically. I mean during the Biden years when
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  Speaker 14: Russian in Vada, Ukraine, that was one of the record
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  Speaker 14: prices for energy. We're not there.
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  Speaker 2: We don't think we will be there.
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  Speaker 14: And I think the context matters too, because we can
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  Speaker 14: go into the midterm saying that we are making the
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  Speaker 14: reason for the instability and prices much more, much more stable.
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  Speaker 4: Republicans won't be successful without a broad coalition. They've got
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  Speaker 4: to have independence, they've got to have some pretty sane
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  Speaker 4: minded Democrats join their efforts in the states that they
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: did well in in twenty twenty four to not just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: not lose the House, but hopefully maybe pick up a
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  Speaker 4: couple of seats. These redistricting wins are happening, but I
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  Speaker 4: am concerned that this drift path, that this conflict drifts
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  Speaker 4: very far past, you know, Memorial Day, July fourth. I
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  Speaker 4: think we're starting to look into some real issues there
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  Speaker 4: and I just hope that we are able to you know,
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  Speaker 4: put a button on it before then and come home.
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  Speaker 14: Well, elections is not my expertise, but I mean, I
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  Speaker 14: think stepping back, look, we are we have a lot
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  Speaker 14: of wins here to talk about. And the conflict you mentioned,
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  Speaker 14: I mean we've been We've been this.
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  Speaker 4: Ron has tries to a complicate in eighty days that
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  Speaker 4: they've been doing for frect seven years. So I exactly
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  Speaker 4: understand the ab comparison.
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  Speaker 14: There, right, I mean the state of conflict, so you
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  Speaker 14: know we're ending that. But I think more practically, speaking
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  Speaker 14: to your point, we are also building a coalition out there.
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  Speaker 14: We have also partners of ours that are working together,
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  Speaker 14: even independent of us, to ensure their defense. That's something
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  Speaker 14: that hadn't happened before. It's because of the Abraham Accords.
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  Speaker 14: You have, for example, Israel the UAE partnering for one
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 14: another's defense. That's incredible. That means less US presence in
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  Speaker 14: the region. That means we're giving to our allies and
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  Speaker 14: partners the ability to take ownership over their regions.
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  Speaker 2: It's something we've wanted.
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  Speaker 14: So the President's campaigned on and I think, look, there's
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  Speaker 14: a bit of volatility, sure, but I think as far
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  Speaker 14: as foreign policies at large, you also have the Russia
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  Speaker 14: ceasefire that was announced, and my view that is a
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  Speaker 14: downstream effect of an effective Iran strategy here, and so
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: things are coming together. These are all complex, really conflicts
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  Speaker 14: around the world that we are putting to an end.
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  Speaker 14: But I think there is, to your point, a narrative
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  Speaker 14: that we need to be talking about to the American
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  Speaker 14: public and explaining exactly this course that we're on that
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  Speaker 14: that is just so important and so effective.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think that the long term good that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: can come of this if if we don't chintz out
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: at the end. And that's that's really the problem. Trump
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: has to be strong and we have to win, and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: just like my colleague Hugh Hewett has been writing about recently,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: there is no other option. It has to be a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: decisive victory and those people cannot be left in charge.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 14: Well, if anything we've seen over the last two months
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 14: is how poorly the Irinon regime has misread this president.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, if there's one issue he's been consistent on
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 14: since the eighties as a civilian, it's the tariff's issue
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 14: in trade and it's Iran and he's acting on his word,
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  Speaker 14: and you know, thank God for that. I mean, we
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 14: have a president with impeccable instincts, a brilliant president, and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 14: I think, look, he's going to see this job completed
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  Speaker 14: as he sees it in a way that the American
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 14: people are safer, that their economy, their well being is
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 14: more stable. You know, it may not happen immediately overnight.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 14: Nobody said it would, but it's happening right now, and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 14: I think we'll see the fruits of that very soon.
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  Speaker 4: I think, strange little curveball for you here at the end,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Trump and G. He should be meeting sometime soon. Do
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: you think it would be wise for Trump to try
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: to proffer some sort of liquid natural gas deal with
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: G and begin to peel him away from those other
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: interests that he seems to be pretty arm in arm
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  Speaker 4: with at present.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: I think, Look, going into the Trump G meeting, I mean,
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  Speaker 14: we have tremendous leverage we've built up because of epic furity,
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  Speaker 14: but also because of the vulnerabilities of the Strait now.
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  Speaker 14: I mean, China is one of the biggest dependents by
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 14: the way under market value they've been acquiring oil through
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 14: the start of form movies.
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  Speaker 4: You call that black market around.
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  Speaker 14: Here, Yes, exactly, That's exactly what they've been doing much
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 14: like elsewhere, and so I think we're walking to this
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 14: meeting with that leverage holding the cars, as the President
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 14: would say. And I think his objective, as I see it,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 14: with China is to get that deal, that arrangement that
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 14: supports the American people from which the American people are
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 14: not under threat by the People's Republic of China, and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 14: I think probably the most favorable conditions he's walking into
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 14: this meeting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I hope that he not only gets the commitment
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  Speaker 4: that they'll, you know, play nice with us, but if
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: we could develop at least one economic mutual interest with them,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: I think that does a little bit to drive a
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: wedge between them and Russia, yes, and some of the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: other nefarious partners that they worked with. I don't think
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: China's ever going to be like super chummy chummy with us,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: but anything we can do to peel them away from
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: the other guys, I think is a good thing, and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping he does. We'll see Saria where he goes
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: with that. Jacob Olidor always appreciate all that you're doing
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: with the American First Policy Institute. Thank you so much
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: for being with us.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Grateful to be with you.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: Kevin got it, Kevin mckella coming right back from New York.
• 1:16:29
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  Speaker 4: All right, final few minutes of today's broadcast. And something
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: happened last night that was kind of interesting. And I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: teased this earlier in the show, but I wanted, I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: really wanted to make a statement about it because I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: feel like it's important, you know, music, pop culture, the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: things that people do, what they watch on TV, the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: movies they go to, et cetera, et cetera. These things
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: are These things impact kids and families and people in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: a huge way. And for many years, when a contestant
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: named Adam Lambert or a judge named Katy Perry or
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: some other people were on a show called American Idol,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: there were oftentimes ways and places in which there were
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: you know, much less wholesome elements, kind of glamorized. And
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: so you had kids that were trying out, that were transitioning,
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  Speaker 4: and you had other things because Katy Perry had a
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: soft spot for some and there were there were other
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: things that were you know, on this big primetime show,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: big ratings, big gainer for ABC, that's why they air it.
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  Speaker 4: And it was one of those shows where you just
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: had a lot of influences and with music, with rock music,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: with pop music, with rap, with other things. There's always
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: kind of an inclination that if you're going to have
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: the most popular thing on TV, you're gonna have to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: go with the most popular song, which, sadly, the music
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  Speaker 4: industry has continually gotten more and more kind of repugnant
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: in terms of its vulgarity and its illicitness. And I
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  Speaker 4: have not watched the American Idol show in a few years,
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  Speaker 4: but my daughter is getting to the age now where
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  Speaker 4: she's interested in the performing arts. She's been in ten musicals.
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  Speaker 4: She has I think nearly perfect pitch, and being a
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: musician myself, I'm always a fan of watching musicians do well,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: and so we watched the entire season this year. We
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: watched it from the very first rounds of the auditions
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: all the way through the finale last night, and last night,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: I think for the first time in the history of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: American Idol, you had three confessing Christians that competed for
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: the top spot in the final episode, and in fact,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: the winner and the runner up both regularly still lead
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: worship and are involved in service to their local church
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: by way of their musical ability. And for all three
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: of them last night, which they did, all three of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: them sang songs of worship in their final songs of contest,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: and then after the winner one which I won't spoil
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: it if you didn't watch it, but after the Winter one,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: the winner also sang another Christian song, this one written
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: by Chris Tomlin. And it was just an amazing night
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: for the gospel on the most centric pop culture thing
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  Speaker 4: on TV last night, for millions of households to watch
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: and to have participated in. And these three people kind
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: of wore their faith very strongly. Hannah Harper and Jordan
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: McCullough no relation, wore their faith very strongly throughout the
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: entire season. And so I just, you know, I've been
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: critical of different things in pop culture for a long time.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: For ABC to allow the voters to make this decision
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: and to put them all on and to do it
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  Speaker 4: fairly and to let one of them win, I felt
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: like was a very positive thing for America. I felt
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: it was a very positive thing for the show American Idol,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it's a very positive thing for Christians
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: and how well you're doing in music in the culture today.
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  Speaker 4: We need Christian musicians to sing the truth of the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: Gospel and the ability of Jesus to change lives like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: we've never needed it before. And so I was kind
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: of touched, dare I say, even brought to tears a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: little bit to see how so boldly. And Carrie Underwood
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  Speaker 4: is a believer and she's on the judges panel, and
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: she spoke very articulately about this with Hannah Harper. She said,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: you know, you started out with an original song about God.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: You ended tonight with the last song that she participated
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: in competition with with an original song about God. And
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I just, I don't know, it was a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: And I just I want to say, way to go
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  Speaker 4: American Idol. Way to go America for voting them through
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  Speaker 4: and for last night to be something that really, I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: don't know, I was proud of. I was proud of
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: the Gospel, I was proud of the church last night.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to say it. Kevin McCollough, we will
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: see you next time.