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411: Make Fear Your Homeboy & Become Fully Expressed with 4/6 Emotional Projector Judi Holler · Unshakeable with Human Design - A Human Design For Business Podcast

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Welcome to the Unshakeable with Human Design Podcast.
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Everybody.
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Welcome.
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We are in person today.
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It's so good with the one and only, literally one and only.
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Judy Holler.
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I am so excited, like beyond excited.
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I've wanted to have you on the show since we met because you are electric
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Oh.
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and I admire you so much because I had seen your social and I see you're
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this amazing speaker, that you are this really magnetic personality,
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yet you are in no way intimidating as a person because you are so open.
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It's very four line.
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Mm.
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Um, you are so the depth.
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That.
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'cause I mean, there, there's some things that appear flashy, like,
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and not flashy, but like, you know, you have big personality.
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Like when, you know, and if anybody listening, if you haven't visited her,
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her socials, or if you have, you'll see it's bright colors, it's graffiti.
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It is this like big, big personality.
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But yet there is so much depth and intelligence and I just, the more
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I, I watched you and kind of had, had, uh, you know, experienced you.
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The more impressed I became and the more I was like, I wanna have a conversation.
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Like, we've done readings together and we've, we've had the pleasure of
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working together in a few ways that I, I was like, I really wanna have
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a conversation with you on the show.
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So thank you for being here.
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I am so excited
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I receive all of that.
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I'm really working on being receptive, which is my pearl, but aren't we all?
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So it's like, thank you.
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Um, no, really truly thank you.
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And I think that is the compliment of all compliments.
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You know, when someone says, you know, oh my God, you're just the same way on.
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Offstage as you are on stage or in real life as you are on the socials.
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And you know, I always say just because, just because something
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glitters doesn't doesn't make it gold.
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Right?
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And so, you know, feel into things and trust yourself and, and you kind of know.
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And so you had an intuitive hit with me.
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There was something about my page that stopped your scroll.
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Um, but really, truly what I reflect back to you is that I'm just a mirror, right?
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I'm just a mirror for, for everything you already hold inside yourself.
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And, and same with anybody listening.
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Anything you see in some, in someone else's, a reflection of,
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of maybe what's lying dormant.
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Yeah.
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Or possible in yourself.
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And we can talk about that.
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'cause I feel like I'm here to guide people back home to themselves so
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they can wake all that juicy shit up.
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Uh, I don't know if we can cuss on this podcast, but your girl just went there.
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Uh, pardon me.
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I'll, I'll try and keep it, I'll try and keep it, uh, uh, clean here.
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But, um, yeah, like literally what a compliment to receive.
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And, and just thank you for that.
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You know,
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I meant every
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assignment.
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I feel like that's the assignment just to just.
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Guide
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We have so much to get into.
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I'm going to read your official bio though, so everybody gets a little bit
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of, you know, that was my own personal introduction, but I'm gonna read a
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little bit 'cause I'm holding your book.
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Oh
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it's so exciting.
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It's like in the
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about it.
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Almost
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almost
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your book.
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I am and I'm one of the first people to hold it that's not part of like
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your team or like married to you.
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Yes.
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So I'm, I'm honored.
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Um, so I'm gonna read from here.
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Um, Judy Holler is a creative entrepreneur, motivational
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speaker and poet leading a revolution of self expressionism.
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Her bold, self-driven approach to life and work born to holler.
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Literally, Judy helps people amplify their voice, unlock their creativity, and
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boldly chase what sets their soul on fire.
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Through performance, poetry, and the power of her pen.
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She inspires originality, courage, and radical self-expression, whether on
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stage, on the page, or in your earbuds.
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Judy is here to remind you, you are the art, your life is the canvas.
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Amen.
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Yeah.
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And it almost makes me emotional to hear you read that out loud
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because, oh my God, here we go.
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We're just the, is this a record?
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Is this a record?
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Can we get tissues in the studio?
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Uh, oh my God.
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It's just the, the journey of, of, of self-discovery that I've been on.
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And to be able to bravely and confidently say that I am a self expressionist
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and I am here to help people be the full expression of themselves is the
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divine assignment that I have been so afraid to say out loud for so long.
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And to be able to, to have it come out into the world, to be standing on keynote
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stages now, teaching the art of self expressionism to proudly de declare myself
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a self expressionist and to really use.
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The last name I was born with in a way that allows people fe to feel safe to be
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the full expression of themself is, is what I have been wanting to do my whole
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life, and I've been so afraid to do.
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And off we go.
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So we can unpack that, but just to hear you read that out loud
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is, uh, really, really cool.
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Um, because I'm doing it, I'm doing it with me shaking like Bambi, I'm doing it.
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You're doing it.
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And you know the book is called Holler at Your Dreams.
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Yeah.
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Your name actually is Holler.
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That's not something Born With, born With It, which just feels pre-ordained.
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Oh yeah.
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For you to be doing what you're doing.
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And I have so many questions.
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Where I wanna start is tell everybody what is self expressionism to you?
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You use that word that is kind of the term that you've coined.
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Um, what does that mean
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to
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you?
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Yeah.
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So in a nutshell, I consider it to be kind of the.
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I believe the future is gonna be self-expressed.
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So it's sort of like, um, a bold keywords here, soul driven
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self-leadership philosophy built for the future of life and work.
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And ultimately I believe that when you live, work and be like a self
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expressionist, you will build a life and career that feels like yours.
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And so tell me a little bit about, you said you were, you were scared to do this.
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Mm-hmm.
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You don't strike me as a terribly fearful person.
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So, and I know that there are the people who, like the mostly women, but the person
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listening to this show, we, they listen because they want to be fully expressed.
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They want to step into who they are.
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They want to, some people wanna find who they are.
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Yeah.
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Some people are like, I know what it is, but I haven't fully owned it.
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Yeah.
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yeah.
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You don't strike me as a like, scared.
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Wilting flower, but can you talk to me a little bit about what that means to you?
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Like to say like, I'm, I'm scared, but I'm doing it.
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And, and what, what does that, what does that, how
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does that show up for you?
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Yeah.
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It's, it's everything.
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Well, first of all, we gotta drop my favorite little Wayne
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lyric, which is throw dirt on me.
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Grow a wild flower.
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So I am a wildflower.
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Um, and I love all the wildflowers.
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It's one of my favorite quotes, um, lyrics, bars in a, in a,
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you know, in a piece of poetry, which I consider, I love hip hop.
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Um, we come from the nineties that, right?
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And so I think it's some of the, you know, most beautiful poetry on the
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planet when done right, especially our.
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Nineties hip hop.
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Um, I digress on hip hop, but coming back full circle to, uh, living fully, fully
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expressed, you know, uh, my first book is called Fear is My Homeboy and Courage.
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So this, let's have a conversation about that.
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And I don't believe I would be sitting here hollering at my dreams if I did
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not use the concept of my first book and understand how to make fear my homeboy.
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This wouldn't even be in existence.
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So I, you know, one of the things people don't know about me, and I
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think would be surprised to understand, is that I am actually one of the
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biggest Fredy cats you'll ever meet.
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However, I believe that's what makes me qualified to write about fear,
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because I do it scared all the time, and I have become a professional fear
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facer, uh, because I understand how to dance with fear and how to ride with
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it, how to befriend it, and how to most importantly put it, put it in its place
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when it, when it needs to be checked.
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And so I'm scared all the time.
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I just have built a tolerance for pain that allows me.
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To move more intuitively, take more risks, put myself in rooms, jump before
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I'm ready, and just sort of trust that I'm, human design has helped me with
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this, but trust that I'm, I'm protected and that I'm, I'm divinely aligned.
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And that, you know, I'm evidence that I'm evidence because I exist.
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You know, I, I think we are living proof.
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Think of all the hard things you've done up until this point.
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You've, some of you, some of you listening, have gotten married,
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gotten divorced, moved across country, uh, the country started new
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jobs, quit jobs, death diagnosis.
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We have, we have done hard things.
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You are already the evidence of courage.
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It's self simply because you are breathing oxygen, right?
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And so I think we forget that we've got this resume.
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Already of like dopeness that we are forgetting to call upon.
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And I have a degree in Dopeness, meaning I am like, I may not have made straight
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A's in school and I may not have a PhD or a, like a, a master's in whatever.
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And I may not be a scientist or have like the most groundbreaking strategy, but
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I do have a degree in Dopeness and that is the dopeness of understanding self
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and like understanding that I can do it.
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Like I, I have done hard things and lived to talk about it.
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So it kind of gives me the courage to keep doing it and see what happens.
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I have a degree in dopeness.
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Is
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is that how like catchphrase, did we just create something there?
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I
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think you just, I should edit the book degree.
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I think I have a quote in the book.
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You know, trust your dopeness.
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But yeah, like, I really do, I think I have a degree in Dopeness and that is
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just the willingness to look cringe.
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The willingness to fail, the willingness to disappoint other people.
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But may I never disappoint myself.
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The willingness to get it wrong, the, the willingness to look
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silly.
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to, to try to just.
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I, I,
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I think.
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Because I'm a Fredy cat.
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Oh, I am.
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I am.
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When I think about all the things that I, I've done a lot of hard things, but
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I've also not done a lot of things.
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Yeah.
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Fully.
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My core wound is halfheartedness, which is, I think the Fredy Cats,
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uh, real Achilles heel is the fact that it can seem like we're trying.
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Mm. But I'm half-hearted in it because the fear of actually succeeding Yes.
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Is actually the thing that I'm most scared of.
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Or there have just been these, like, you know, I was an actor.
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I did brave things.
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I moved across the country and I put myself out there and I went on auditions
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and I did things, but I didn't do.
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Everything.
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I didn't love the business of show business.
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I really don't like the hobnobbing and the ass kissing and the, you
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know, and whatever else goes on to get the roles that you're looking for.
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I wasn't that type of person, and I'm not, I'm not great at being phony.
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I can
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but I
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but I don't like to act in my real life.
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She's a real for show business.
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But, you know, it was just like integrity is gets in the way sometimes of ambition.
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Yeah.
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But, um, yes, but I, so, so I, I kind of just thinking about like fear is my,
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I've done a lot of hard things, but I've also had to look at like, when have I not
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gone for it with everything that I have.
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Yeah.
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And that's what has been the journey for me.
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I think everybody has their journey with fear.
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Of course.
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And, and I think we can also look at, um, the things that we haven't done or
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the things that haven't worked out, or we can forget all of the hard things
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that we did, we take 'em for granted.
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Like, oh, anybody can do that.
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Yes.
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And it's like, well, no, there are a lot of people
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we don't.
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There's a, most people, most people don't.
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It is easier to play it safe.
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It is easier to ignore.
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It is easier to numb.
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It is easier to, you know.
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Hope and wish and excuse your way in
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and around things.
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Right.
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And I think it's easier as well to just fall into the patterns
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that everybody finds acceptable.
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I think it's, I think it's very courageous to be like, I'm gonna be different.
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I'm gonna do the thing that people are gonna say I'm crazy for.
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Yes.
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And I have been called crazy, probably not to my face, but
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in back rooms behind my back.
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Like, who's she kidding?
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Like, oh yeah.
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They're like, yeah, go for it.
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And they're like, she's out of her mind.
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You know?
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And probably everything that I've done in the last 15 years of
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my life have been quote unquote
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crazy.
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Oh yeah.
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But you know, here's to the crazy ones.
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Here's to the crazy ones.
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And it's okay to live a life.
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People
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understand.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's your life.
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Yeah.
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And yeah, it it's yours.
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And that's, and that's the point, right?
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Like that's one of the beautiful gifts of human design is like, and
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one of the things you've taught me and really reflected back to me is like.
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I think you, you said this at the opening, I just, on the way here, I listened
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to your projector podcast all about US projectors and you opened it by saying,
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one of my favorite things about human de design and I concur is, you know, when
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we think about fear and what everybody else is doing and the ways fear shows up.
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'cause we look around at what everybody else is doing.
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We're like, well, if everybody's doing this kind of course, I might as well.
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We do this.
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Well, everybody's building funnels.
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I should go build, build funnels.
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Oh, everybody's got a Instagram grid that looks this way, I
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should go do this everybody.
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So we start looking around and one of the things you say about human design,
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whether you're comparing yourself to other people or other people's paths
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or whatever that may look like, human design is just this beautiful reminder
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that there, there's only your path and, and it like, it helped me like.
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It so I felt so protected, like good for her.
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Ooh, but that's not for me.
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Ooh, you go girl.
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I love that funnel for you.
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I love that course for you.
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I love that conference for you.
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I'm gonna be over here doing my little thing in my laboratory
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and call me on Sunday, right?
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Like, but you see what I'm saying?
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Like now I just don't feel I went through such a phase of, Ooh, I got bitter.
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I was so bitter and, and jealous.
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And I had this chip on my shoulder 'cause things weren't working in my
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life and I had lost myself in like 2022.
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And um, so I just really went through this phase of like bitterness and so.
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you
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I had to go on a journey to go to, to, to find her and to come back home.
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And that's really what's in the pages of the book.
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But the moral of the story is human design has really helped me sort of
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realize like, there's nobody, I'm not running anybody else's race.
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This is my game.
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And it is okay for me to live a life that, that other people don't
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understand because it's mine.
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It's my one wildly dope, precious life.
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And it's gonna be scary at times and it might feel unconventional for
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other people, but you know, I kind of trust, trust the path and the process
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And the purpose.
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And that's the whole thing.
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I mean, and you know, something that I wanted to point out.
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You're, you're a four, six emotional projector.
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Just so people, just so, so people know.
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'cause they, they wanna know, they wanna know on the show.
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I, because I think it's, it's also, I love showing people because I, I loved,
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I was talking to one of my, my former clients this morning and I was talking
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about you and, and she knows who you are.
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And I was like, yeah,
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a projector.
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And she's like, get out.
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Isn't that wild?
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Like,
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everybody thinks you're a money jump.
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Oh, I, I was so remember I told you I
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was, is
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what you're about to say?
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Go ahead, finish it.
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I love it.
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Well, I was so mad.
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So when I run the, I literally ran it twice.
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I like, oh, I'm clearly put in, did I put am instead of PM 1 44?
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Did I get it right?
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Did I put the zero in front of the one?
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I was so furious that I was a projector.
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I was like, I am so Manny Jen, I'm gonna be with all my Manny Jen friends.
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Look at my life.
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I'm of course a manifesting generator.
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Look at me.
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I'm a manifester and I'm a generator.
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I'm a hustler.
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I'm a grinder.
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I get things done.
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I'm a finisher, which I am a finisher, and that's okay.
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And I could still be a projector finisher.
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Uh, but oh, I was like uncomfortable with being a projector.
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And then Nicole's like, oh, well, did you understand that 20, only 20% of
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the world are these projector energies?
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And I went from feeling.
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Mad to like, well, shit, maybe I'm a unicorn over here.
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And I've been living in this like other world where no
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wonder things weren't working.
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No wonder I was trying to squeeze my projector soul into a manifester
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manifesting generator, generator world.
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And no wonder I wasn't, I I no wonder I wasn't, I was
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blocking literally all of my bus.
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Yeah.
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And I think that one of the things as you were talking and you were, you,
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you were talking about, you know, fear as my homeboy and you were talking
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about, you know, your rise to where you are now and, and that journey
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that, that you've taken to get here.
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One of the things that was standing out to me was whether you knew you were
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doing it or not, but when you find out you're a projector, you can start to
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do this more deliberately, which is I think, the power of human design.
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It's not to be like, okay, now let's put you in this box.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Because that's not what it's about.
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I wanted to be a projector.
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I wanted people to tell me to, like that I'm supposed to be some guide.
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Yeah.
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And that, you know, I needed to nap more.
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That was, that was, that was, I was.
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Super disappointed when I was like, uh, uh, um, when I found out I was a mangen.
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Did you?
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I wanted yours.
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You wanted mine.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Well, we all want something.
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Of course.
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I think the first reaction to your chart is a very valid one to look at.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What were you hoping
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it would be?
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and, and why?
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Yeah.
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And to me, I was like, I wanted to be like, tell me I'm a sage.
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Tell me that I'm, I wanted to be like a six, a six line projector.
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Like, tell me I'm a sage who's just meant to guide you.
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Yes.
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I need to nap more, spend more time in my own energy and
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just tell people what to do.
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That sounded great to me.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, and then I had to be confronted with the fact that like,
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okay, that's, that's not you way, it doesn't mean you can't do those things.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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I can nap whenever
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want, but the truth is, is that I don't need
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to, you don't need
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We don't need to, not really.
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I don't, I don't, I don't nap My husband naps all the time.
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All the time.
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He is a professional napper.
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Yeah.
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Um, but as a projector, what I think is so powerful about this is that projectors
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rise when they recognize themselves.
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Mm. That's beautiful.
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And when they only give their energy to things that they
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want to be recognized for.
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And where one of my clients wrote Gram this morning asking me about
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what type of a projector she was.
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'cause there's like, there's a classic projector, there's a mental projector,
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and then there's energy projectors.
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You're an energy projector.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which energy projectors mean you have a motor defined at least one, and
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you have the emotional motor defined.
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Totally.
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But the, and the difference is you do have energy so you can present like something
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you're not gonna be as tired as my husband.
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Right.
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No, I don't nap actually.
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But I do need to.
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You
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Sit down schedule.
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I need, I
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literally schedule it.
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Yeah.
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Now.
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And you'll find that you will be brighter in all the areas that you show up in.
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Your energy enters the room before you do.
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And if you're depleted, you deplete that.
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And if you deplete that, then you're working harder for your success.
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And if you're working harder for your success, you're out of alignment.
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You're outta alignment.
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And that's, so it's, it's more of a way of like, it's a way of saying like, to
18:51
check in with yourself as a roadmap.
18:54
And for you, I think you've learned to recognize yourself
18:58
for your degree in ness.
19:00
Oh, yeah.
19:01
Oh yeah.
19:01
And the more you've owned that through that, like your light has
19:05
shined, so, which gives you energy, which gives you power, and which
19:10
makes you, you know, that, that overused word right now magnetic.
19:14
But that's why people are drawn to you.
19:15
You're a very successful professional speaker.
19:18
I wanna talk about that.
19:19
I wanna talk about the book, but I want to, I, I wanna ask
19:23
you about, you've called this
19:24
book.
19:25
Mm.
19:26
an Oracle.
19:27
Oh.
19:27
yeah.
19:28
Talk to me about how
19:29
you would love,
19:30
in a perfect world, everybody who's listening buys this
19:33
book holler at your dreams.
19:35
And
19:36
how are they using this?
19:37
What are they doing?
19:38
Okay, well, we're, we should do an Oracle before we end it to today.
19:41
We'll sort of wrap and ask the book a question.
19:44
Okay.
19:44
And, and get our answer from it.
19:45
And oh, sometimes, like, let's let the conversation happen and see if it
19:48
affirms anything we've talked about or how it connects to what we've done.
19:52
I really, I, I wrote the book, it's got four sections.
19:55
So we start with pain, we gotta feel it, we gotta, we gotta sit in it.
20:01
Sometimes we have to lose ourselves to find ourselves so that the first section,
20:04
the book is grouped in four sections.
20:06
It begins with pain.
20:08
Um, and the book, by the way, is full of poetry, personal development, art, and
20:13
prose to, to illustrate the concepts.
20:18
I believe are are available to help someone holler their dreams.
20:22
No longer chase dreams, actually catch dreams.
20:23
So that's kind of the makeup of the book.
20:25
It's, it's artistic.
20:26
It's got coffee table book energy, but you can read it front to back.
20:29
You start with pain.
20:30
You go from pain to peace.
20:32
Now we make peace with it.
20:34
Ooh, now that we felt it and we're feeling the things, where we at with that?
20:37
And what does peace look like?
20:38
And how do we get peace with the things that maybe feel uncomfortable
20:42
or icky or maybe bigger, or that fear of success that we have lurking around
20:46
the corner, all this good stuff.
20:47
And then once we've sort of felt the pain and we've made peace with
20:50
it, ooh, now we step into presence.
20:52
Who are we now?
20:53
This is the becoming.
20:55
This is the what could we become?
20:57
What have we become?
20:58
What do we want to become?
20:59
And from there, we move into the paradigm.
21:02
This is where we shift into new dimensions and we think even bigger.
21:05
And we go to a whole new universe and a, and a bigger way of
21:08
thinking for ourselves, right?
21:09
So pain, peace, presence, and paradigm are the four sections.
21:13
So you could read this book front to back, however.
21:16
Intuitively and in my bones what I, how this book came through for me.
21:23
It was a bit like an oracle, like, dare I say, it's a book you could ask a
21:28
question to and and receive an answer to.
21:31
So one of my favorite things to do in life is to, when I'm lost, when I'm
21:35
stuck creatively, when I need an answer.
21:37
The books in my office that surround my writing computer are
21:40
all my favorite books in the world.
21:42
The books that have changed my life the most.
21:43
Art books, uh, personal development books, poetry books, all this stuff.
21:46
And so I will be lost, I'll be stuck on what to write in my newsletter.
21:49
I will be stuck on a decision I need to make.
21:52
I will be stuck on whatever it is in life, a conversation
21:54
I need to have with a friend.
21:55
And I will go to the books on shelf.
21:57
I will pull one out and I will say, what do I need today?
21:59
And I will let the pages tell me the answer and I will use
22:03
whatever's there to, to refine.
22:05
And 99.99999% of the time, it is exactly what I needed.
22:10
And then some, so.
22:12
This is what you're gonna write about with your spin.
22:14
This is how you're gonna approach that conversation with your friend.
22:16
This is the message you need today.
22:17
So I said, what if I could, I like chills.
22:20
I'm like, what if I could write a book like that that allows the reader to also
22:24
get the answers they need in this book?
22:27
And so, yeah, you can ask her a question and get your answer
22:30
and, and let that guide you.
22:32
Um, this is also gift giving is my love language, and I'm always
22:36
looking for the perfect gift.
22:37
And so I wanted to create that beautiful treasure.
22:40
You could give a best friend a team that is, and it's this unique little design.
22:45
It's like a square, 400, 10 pages of magic.
22:47
So she's gonna be really beautiful to give in a gift as a gift that, that, that
22:51
just is something that serves someone.
22:52
You don't just read it and put away, this is a book that's like
22:54
actively on your nightstand.
22:56
This is on a coffee table.
22:57
This is like, this is like, there's, there's a buzz.
22:59
This, this book is kind of alive, right?
23:02
And that's why I think it's an oracle.
23:04
And I don't know, you could read read it traditionally, but I, I wrote it very
23:08
traditionally to just let you use it as you need to use it.
23:11
I think it's actually more the way people read.
23:15
I don't think that most people will stop.
23:18
Yeah.
23:18
At some point where I think a lot of personal development books or you
23:23
know, nonfiction can sometimes feel like the same things get repeated or
23:29
where it's like, okay, I get it now.
23:30
We
23:31
it now and
23:31
then you, you put it away.
23:33
I'm guilty of that.
23:34
I'm a manny gen, so we are not finishers by the way, we're finishers.
23:37
You're finish.
23:38
We are not finishers.
23:39
We're like, yeah, yeah.
23:40
I get the gist next.
23:41
Um, what's the next thing to get me my next like sacral?
23:44
Yes.
23:44
Yes.
23:45
Um, this is a no for me now.
23:47
Yeah.
23:47
But I feel like this is actually more the way that people read.
23:50
Yeah.
23:50
Because it's more about like, what do I need right now?
23:52
Yeah.
23:53
And what's speaking to me right now.
23:54
And I love that you've positioned it that way, where.
23:58
They're not putting it away like I'm done with it.
24:01
It's active.
24:02
That it's something that it's, that
24:04
they will use.
24:05
Yes.
24:05
The reader will use and come back to.
24:07
Yes.
24:08
And.
24:09
And maybe someone's in pain right now and they need to go there.
24:12
Maybe someone is in a really great place and they need to remember who they are.
24:15
So they're gonna go right to presence.
24:17
Maybe someone needs to get some peace in their life.
24:18
Maybe someone has all the cards lined up and they want to get to another
24:22
dimension and get weird with it, baby, we're gonna go right to presence, right?
24:26
So where are you today?
24:27
And they're 365 original ideas.
24:29
Something new every day.
24:30
So it's like a bite-sized, it's like a little bite-sized book that you can
24:35
Yeah, it's the un, it's an unbook.
24:37
But yeah, like where are you today?
24:38
And you know what?
24:39
Listen, I don't know about you.
24:41
We're women, you know?
24:42
We're women over 45.
24:43
You're gonna go through pain and then you're gonna heal.
24:46
And guess what?
24:46
You're gonna have to come all the way back to the beginning and go through
24:49
new pains as things change your life.
24:50
So we're never fully, it is, it is.
24:53
Life is a dance of becoming of, of change and growth and reinvention.
24:58
That's a whole point.
24:59
So it's kind of like a lifelong answer.
25:02
Well, it's a longterm answer to the lifelong pursuit of growth and
25:05
change in reinvention, which is the whole point.
25:07
So
25:08
talk to me about paradigm.
25:09
Talk to me about, because that's a word that I think people use and I'm
25:14
curious like, in the context of this.
25:15
So like, so we have pain understood presence, so now we're getting, we've
25:20
moved through our pain and now we're ready to kind of maybe peace presence.
25:24
Yes.
25:24
Oh, peace presence.
25:24
Excuse me.
25:25
And then
25:26
we've got paradigm.
25:27
Mm-hmm.
25:28
Talk to me about paradigm
25:30
What's
25:30
and that part.
25:31
So this is like the, the cosmic part of my soul.
25:34
Like the, the like, you know, the right place.
25:36
Yeah.
25:37
This is the, like, this is the woo woo.
25:40
This is the woo woo in Judy, uh, that wanted to kind of, you know, I, I've been
25:44
building up in my, my mind and I'm slowly.
25:49
Bringing it to life.
25:50
Uh, this holi verse, right?
25:52
This world that I've been dreaming up where like, you know, boombox is our
25:57
muse and our, our manifestos written in graffiti, and the world is neon and brave.
26:04
Like courage is our crown, and self-expression is our strategy,
26:07
and intuition is our primary brain.
26:10
And it's, it's, it's bold and creative and different, and it's, and I just had
26:17
this vision, I'll tell you the truth.
26:18
I had this vision of like, this UFO, I'm like, what?
26:23
How could I end this book?
26:24
And it was like this, like UFO came over me and it was like this bright
26:28
pink light beaming down on me.
26:29
And I, and I was like, Ooh, beam me up into this like, haul verse.
26:32
Let's get weird.
26:33
Let's go to a place that, that what could be possible here.
26:38
If I really stepped into this presence, I've become, like, if
26:41
I really fully embody, holler.
26:44
What's next?
26:46
What does bigger look like?
26:47
What does stranger looks like?
26:50
What does braver even, what does more expressed look like?
26:55
So for me, it's a place of playfulness and, and joy and
27:00
weirdness and cosmic divine energy.
27:03
And this is just like the truth of it.
27:04
I wanted to shift people into new dimensions for themselves internally
27:09
so they could wake up what is possible when they tap into their potential.
27:14
Because I think that's the divine assignment I am here to, to use my
27:18
voice and the full expression of that voice to help others feel safe in using
27:25
the full expression of their voice.
27:27
And I can't do that if I don't show.
27:30
I can't do that just in jeans and a t-shirt.
27:33
I've gotta, I've gotta get like more fully expressed, like I have to, like, woo.
27:40
You know?
27:40
So in these photo shoots that I do and this, these worlds that I'm
27:43
gonna be bringing to life, I get, I go, it's like the, you know, it's
27:47
the Sasha Fierce that Beyonce has.
27:48
We all have that Internal, internal, it's like, have these, it's me, but
27:52
it's the, the, the fullest expression of, of where I could, where I want
27:57
people to go with me, you know?
27:59
Mm-hmm.
27:59
Because if I can show them the way, maybe they'll feel more
28:01
confident saying, well, she
28:02
can be do that.
28:03
I can do that.
28:04
You know,
28:05
I mean, I think that that's, you put up a, a clip from one of your speeches
28:10
'cause you're a professional speaker and I wanna talk to you just about,
28:13
I'm gonna say that most of our audience like that I know is out there and
28:18
we've, we've done some polling and just talking with people in our community
28:22
that's on a lot of people's list.
28:23
Mm-hmm.
28:23
I wanna be, I wanna be a professional speaker.
28:24
I wanna get paid to speak.
28:26
Yeah.
28:26
And I think that there's a big question mark as to how that actually gets
28:31
done.
28:31
'cause you actually get paid to speak.
28:32
I do.
28:33
I want
28:33
really be, I wanna differentiate.
28:34
I'm a pro speaker.
28:35
I mean, that's how
28:35
that's how I make 80 per, that's my, that's my job.
28:37
That's how I make my money.
28:39
And a lot of people that are speaking, that's not how they're making their money.
28:42
And, and that's fine.
28:44
But you actually get paid for this.
28:45
Yeah.
28:45
So I feel like you, you have a, a level of qualification that
28:48
I wanna really set apart here.
28:50
Um, you put up a clip from one of your speeches where you talked
28:53
about, um, I don't remember her name, but somebody from IBM Oh, Candace.
28:57
I love this.
28:57
We have to tell that story.
28:59
Tell the story.
28:59
Because I watched that and I was like, I wanna talk to her about this on the show.
29:03
Because I think that that is sort of, it's, it's this, oh, it's everything
29:07
and it's what you're here for.
29:08
Because I wanna also say that, you know, you are a cross of planning person.
29:13
Mm-hmm.
29:13
Which I think there's usually an idea about the cross of planning.
29:16
Oh, that's the old way that's going to be, that's really
29:19
structured it's infrastructure.
29:21
No, it's about doing things smartly and building something and being
29:24
a person who can build things.
29:26
But you're led by the 16th gate, the gate of enthusiasm and
29:29
skills, and you've built a skill.
29:32
It isn't just enthusiasm, but it's the enthusiasm that caused you to
29:35
build the skills that you have.
29:37
And now you, you.
29:40
Spewing enthusiasm, like you're radiating it everywhere.
29:44
And I think that that's, you're an example of somebody living their
29:48
conscious sun, their incarnation cross, and the way you've approached the
29:51
work has been the way I wish everybody would approach the work, which is not
29:56
from a place of like a destination of like, okay, now I know where I'm going.
30:01
You, you've also, you're, you've been living your life in a way where you
30:06
are stepping into yourself too, but.
30:09
But you look at the human design work and it's been amazing for me.
30:14
'cause you're like, I, I take
30:15
my, my business
30:16
report and I sit with it with my morning coffee.
30:19
I do,
30:19
And I journal and I'm like, do you have no idea?
30:21
That's what I did on my birthday.
30:23
It was my birthday gift to myself.
30:24
I was like, oh my God, this is amazing.
30:26
I was like, I went through it, I printed it.
30:27
I'm laying at a pool.
30:28
My husband's like, what is that?
30:29
I have like highlighters.
30:30
And I'm like, this is Nicole's report.
30:32
It's like this beautiful 40 page report.
30:33
And I then I take it and dissect it, and then I divide it up into
30:36
sections and then I like, oh my gosh.
30:38
I, oh, I'm a student.
30:39
I'm a student of the work for sure.
30:41
And I love that.
30:42
And I love that what you've done is you're allowing it to.
30:46
Either unlock or open wider Yeah.
30:49
The doors within yourself that have always been there.
30:52
Yeah.
30:52
And to go like, what happens if I go deeper into this?
30:55
Yes.
30:55
What if I, what if I really were, wow, that's there.
30:58
I thought so.
30:59
Yes.
30:59
What if I turned that dial way up?
31:01
What would happen then?
31:02
What does that really mean for me?
31:04
So I, I love that.
31:06
So I wanted to, I
31:06
wanted to say that, but, but tell everybody the story
31:08
about Oh my God.
31:09
From IBM.
31:09
Oh my God.
31:11
Okay.
31:12
so this, this was, you know, we all have those flash, those, those flashpoint that,
31:17
that are life defining and life changing.
31:19
This is certainly one of 'em because
31:21
I had been dreaming and deeply desiring.
31:27
This free ability to talk about self-expression on
31:30
stage in the keynote world.
31:32
But keep in mind, I'm paid as a corporate keynote speaker, and
31:34
those conversations feel very scary inside of corporate America.
31:38
So when I launched Holler Your Dreams to the World in 2023,
31:42
low Key, for real, it fell flat.
31:44
And I was called by a lot of bureaus and agents and people in
31:47
the business, people outside of me that told me it was dangerous.
31:50
Nobody's gonna get it.
31:51
Nobody's gonna understand it.
31:52
Um, companies don't need people hollering at their dreams.
31:55
They need people getting shit done, making money, getting results, all of this stuff.
31:58
And, oh, how's that working out for you?
32:00
Are you busy?
32:01
And like all these things, right?
32:02
Not out of.
32:03
Not out of care, but out of critique.
32:05
And I call them the money grabbers.
32:06
These people start coming around you when you get to a certain level of success.
32:09
I write about it in the book and everybody's got the way to fix you.
32:12
You know what?
32:12
Just write me this check and I'm gonna tell you this is how you're gonna
32:15
scale and this is how I'll fix you.
32:16
And this is the message that's really gonna work.
32:17
But soul knows, and I knew that I wanted to use this verb, and I knew that I wanted
32:22
to help people holler at their dreams.
32:23
And I knew that I wanted to live out loud as a self expressionist.
32:26
Like I wanted to come outta that creative closet so bad.
32:29
But I was so scared, like, how will I, how will I pay my mortgage?
32:32
How will I pay my team?
32:33
I'm the breadwinner in my family.
32:35
Like this is the, this is the business.
32:37
It's like, will I lose everything?
32:39
And people were telling me like, are you busy?
32:41
And I'm like, I actually wasn't as busy at the time in 2023
32:44
when somebody said that to me.
32:45
So I got scared and I pulled back and this specific brand manager said
32:49
to me, well, I've got the solution.
32:51
I know what's gonna fix you, Judy.
32:53
Um, and I have to give you this backstory before I tell Candace so that you can
32:56
understand how powerful this moment was just six months ago with Canvas.
33:00
Canvas with canvas.
33:02
So.
33:04
I hired this brand manager.
33:05
I'm scared and I'm doubting myself, but I knew Holler at your dreams.
33:08
Was it?
33:09
But I'm scared.
33:10
This brand manager goes, I got the thing.
33:12
We're gonna fix you.
33:13
You're gonna be the be the verb girl.
33:14
That's what we're gonna do.
33:15
We're gonna be the verb.
33:16
So we're gonna, we're gonna rebrand your book, the title of the book, your
33:19
keynote, your website, everything.
33:20
We're gonna, you're gonna be the be the verb girl.
33:22
Corporate will get that.
33:23
Everybody's gonna understand that.
33:24
So I go, okay, I guess I'm gonna be the be the verb girl.
33:27
So I rebrand everything.
33:28
I redo the keynote, I redo the book cover, redo everything, and we
33:30
change everything to be the verb.
33:31
And inside I am dying.
33:35
I'm snapping at my husband.
33:36
I'm not sleeping really good.
33:38
I'm miserable.
33:39
I'm on stage giving my keynote.
33:41
I lost probably a year of video because I cannot use any of it
33:44
because I just am a shell of myself.
33:46
I don't know who that person is.
33:48
Um, I I, and most acutely and most importantly, I could not make a
33:52
decision on the cover of this book.
33:54
And I was.
33:55
Pissing off all these people and wasting a ton of money and time and energy.
33:59
'cause I was like, what's it gonna be?
34:00
What's it gonna be?
34:01
It's coming out in Eptember.
34:01
We gotta start.
34:02
We gotta start.
34:02
We need a decision.
34:03
So we get to a point in March this year.
34:07
So keep in mind, I'm out there.
34:08
I'm be the verb girl, okay?
34:08
But inside, I'm slowly dying.
34:10
I'm like, what is happening?
34:10
And why am I feeling resistance?
34:12
And why am I mad at everybody and why am I bitter?
34:14
Why do I have this chip on my shoulder?
34:15
And everything's like, ah, whack push comes to shove and we have
34:20
to make a decision on this cup.
34:21
They're like, yo, we got 48 hours.
34:22
Like we have to start moving, right?
34:24
And rightfully so.
34:25
I wake up in the middle of the night and I'm like, oh my God.
34:29
I, I, I mean I can't do this.
34:33
And I go, I know what it is.
34:34
I go, and this is like literally the keynote of my entire presentation.
34:39
I go, I am sitting here painting my life's canvas with other people's brushes.
34:48
And what I came to learn because be the verb wasn't mine.
34:52
That keynote wasn't really mine.
34:53
That book cover wasn't mine because be the verb and the concept and the idea was
34:58
assigned to me by a brand manager outside of me to fix me, but it was never mine.
35:02
And the keynote is this, if something doesn't belong to you,
35:07
it will not stay with you and you will not wanna stay with it.
35:11
So maybe for you, it is not a keynote or a book title, it is a version
35:16
of success that no longer fits.
35:18
Maybe it's a relationship that now has tension.
35:20
Maybe it's the actual clothes in your closet.
35:22
Maybe it is a limiting belief.
35:24
Like if it isn't yours, it ain't gonna stay maybe, and, and, and
35:30
you're not gonna wanna stay with it.
35:31
Mm-hmm.
35:31
So I have this awakening.
35:33
I I, I fire everybody.
35:36
I, I call my graphic designer and I say, ginger, you're gonna kill me.
35:40
But I knew she would get it.
35:41
I go, I'm shutting the whole thing down.
35:43
She goes, what are you doing?
35:44
And I go, I'm not.
35:46
We gotta redo the cover.
35:48
I go, girl, it's holler at your dreams.
35:49
It's always been, she's crying, I'm crying.
35:51
We're like, let's go baby.
35:53
Like, it was like Jerry McGuire with the fish tanker and I against the world.
35:56
I'm like, so we get rid of everything.
35:58
We call our power back.
35:59
And I'm like, this book has was and always will be.
36:01
It was born to be holler at your dreams.
36:03
And I, I believe, I believe so.
36:06
I rewrote the keynote.
36:08
I rewrote the, redid the cover.
36:10
I redid my website.
36:12
I called my power back and I, and I did it scared as hell shaking, like, Bambi
36:17
going, I have no idea how corporate's gonna react to this, but I react to it.
36:21
So let's go.
36:21
So I'm, I get hired by this Women in Technology Forum.
36:25
Okay.
36:25
And I'm a corporate keynote speaker.
36:26
Keep in mind, my biggest fear is that I'm not gonna make any money
36:28
and I'm never gonna work again in my livelihood and the love of my life,
36:31
which is performing and speaking and really guiding people back home to
36:36
themselves and being this projector energy that I am, was gonna go away.
36:40
And so I needed a sign, I needed validation to like, is this it?
36:45
So I am on a prep call for this Women in Tech technology event that was in
36:49
Huntington Beach in May with the board of directors like IBM and Microsoft
36:54
and Apple and like big women in tech in this room, 2000 women almost.
36:57
And we're going around the room and I'm asking them all the questions
37:00
to get prepared for my speeches.
37:02
I always do, tell me about your audience.
37:03
What's the theme?
37:04
What, what's keeping you up at night?
37:05
All this stuff.
37:06
So you can customize the content, which every pro speaker
37:08
should do so you can design an experience that feels like theirs.
37:10
The last question I always ask is this.
37:12
I go, so you've had a lot of speakers at this event.
37:16
It's a women's event and they've hired women's speakers for this event.
37:19
I say a lot, a lot of women on your stage over the years.
37:22
You gotta tell me what works, what doesn't work, what's really crushed, what hasn't.
37:25
So everybody's going around the zoom room giving me answers.
37:28
I'm taking notes.
37:28
And I noticed Candace with IBM Jersey girl, really outspoken the whole
37:32
call, hadn't said anything and.
37:35
uhoh
37:36
Everybody said, yeah.
37:36
And I'm like, okay, why hasn't she said anything?
37:38
So I say, we're about to wrap up the call.
37:40
I said, you know, Candace, would you like to add anything?
37:42
You know, anything you wanna say about that before we, we wrap up.
37:44
And she goes, you know, Judy, I wasn't gonna say anything and I
37:47
almost didn't because I really, truly didn't know if this would be a
37:49
value to you or if this would help.
37:51
But since you asked, I'm just gonna say it the second she says that to me.
37:56
I kid you not.
37:57
I get the back sweat, my heart starts racing.
37:59
I have the corporate PTSD I'm holding onto my table because I know what
38:04
Candace with, with IBM's gonna tell me.
38:07
She's gonna tell me to not be too much.
38:10
She's gonna tell me to tone it down.
38:11
She's gonna tell me to, you know, maybe watch what I wear, not do
38:14
my hair too crazy, maybe don't wear that hot pink suit, whatever.
38:17
Or graffiti, you know, graffiti like that could, you know.
38:21
So I like, she's gonna tell me to tone it down.
38:22
I'm like, shit, here we go.
38:24
Right?
38:25
And I'm holding onto the table.
38:26
She goes.
38:27
So yeah, Judy, we have had a lot of, lot of speakers on our stages
38:29
over the years, and she goes and they all have their thing.
38:33
They all look a certain way.
38:34
They all talk a certain way.
38:35
They all dress a certain way.
38:37
They all move their body a certain way.
38:38
They all tell stories a certain way.
38:40
So Judy, you're gonna have your thing.
38:42
And I guess what I'm trying to say is, whatever your thing is, my girl,
38:46
Do more of
38:47
it.
38:48
Be more of it.
38:50
She
38:51
what beautiful permission
38:52
be more you.
38:54
I get it emotional.
38:56
I was, I mean, I tell the story on stage and I'm like, you know, here I am.
39:01
It, it gave me number one in an instant.
39:05
I felt in 10 years of doing this as a pro speaker, no one's ever told
39:09
me that, number one, number two.
39:12
in
39:12
an instant, I felt so safe to show up as the full expression of myself.
39:17
It poured more co confidence and courage onto the courage and swagger.
39:20
I already had to be even more me up there, and it was my answer because if
39:25
Candace at IBM, senior Vice President of Sales inside of IBM exist, so do others.
39:32
So I blow up the safe talk.
39:35
I decide to give the self-expression talk.
39:37
And for the first time ever in Huntington Beach in front of 2000 women
39:41
in technology, I gave the art of self expressionism talk where I take the brain
39:45
and I divide it into four questions.
39:47
Questions.
39:48
I divided into four quadrants, each quadrant aligning with H-O-L-L-E-R, and
39:52
I taught for the first time ever, the art of self expressionism to a standing
39:57
ovation, to a rebooking in New York this December on the spot and 35 direct
40:03
leads to come into other organizations, three of which I've already booked.
40:07
So.
40:08
That's, that's, that was all I needed to know that Okay.
40:12
Divine assignment.
40:13
Okay.
40:14
Divine alignment.
40:15
Okay.
40:15
Trusting the gate of enthusiasm, trusting the, everything that, that I have known
40:21
to be true and proceeding despite the fear and, and kind of coming back on myself.
40:26
So it, it was a life defining moment.
40:29
And, and, you know, I'm so grateful for it.
40:32
Canda, Candace will go down in history, and the second she said it
40:34
to me, I go, oh, that's, that's that.
40:37
I'm gonna tell this story for a real, so of course I go into that keynote
40:41
and I open with that story, and Candace is in the room, and now it's my open.
40:46
I tell that story a little differently on stage, and I, I,
40:48
and I'm like, that's the point.
40:49
So my segue is just imagine if we could do more of that.
40:53
If leaders inside of our organizations did more of that, what if we
40:56
did more of that for each other?
40:57
Like, what could we, what could we create and
40:59
could we become and how could we innovate?
41:02
And so it's the open.
41:04
I love that.
41:06
And I love that, you know.
41:08
Because I think we, we have an idea like, what will it take for me to be a speaker?
41:11
What will it take for me to be a, you know, to, to be successful?
41:15
And we can tend to look at other people's way.
41:19
Yep.
41:19
And, and that's my thing with human design is, you know, there is no
41:23
the way and that's how, that's how things have been up until now.
41:27
It's been like, this is the way Yeah.
41:29
There's the Russell Brunson way.
41:30
There's the, this way.
41:31
Yeah.
41:31
There's, that was Tony Robbins way.
41:33
Yeah.
41:33
There were all of these people that set off like these hard lined courses,
41:37
which I think at the time is probably what people needed to start to embrace
41:44
these new ways of doing things, was to be like, okay, give me the track for this.
41:48
Yeah.
41:48
Because it's all very new.
41:49
Yeah.
41:49
But now that we've been on that track, now that I think, I think we're ready
41:53
to hear that, you know, there is no the way, there's only your way.
41:57
And finding your way is the sustainable path.
42:02
Yeah.
42:02
And that's the way to success because we've all
42:04
seen be, you know.
42:06
pink suits and graffiti, I would not be able to work.
42:11
It's not yours that 'cause it's not me.
42:13
It's not yours.
42:14
I have my way, I have my vibe and I'm a Manny Jen.
42:18
Yeah.
42:18
So it's not like, and again, it's like we have these preconceived notions about
42:22
what these types or what these things are.
42:24
And, and it's, it's not that, it's not a projector.
42:29
Like you had an idea of what a projector was like, that it was
42:31
gonna be dull or lifeless Yeah.
42:33
Or something.
42:33
And it's like Taylor Swift's a
42:34
a projector.
42:35
Oh yeah.
42:35
Like, I mean, you know, it's
42:37
like she's not
42:38
lying in bed.
42:38
No girl
42:39
busy.
42:40
Girl busy.
42:41
She got new album.
42:42
She's a poet.
42:42
I mean a, a poet
42:44
songwriter, entrepreneur, Elance elegance that she does things.
42:48
Mm-hmm.
42:48
She don't waste time.
42:49
No.
42:50
Obviously.
42:50
No.
42:52
She's a finisher.
42:54
If, if, and then some,
42:55
was, that's another new, my God, it's, she's a machine madness.
42:58
I know she's an animal, she's a machine.
43:00
I love it.
43:01
But, but you know, there's, there's not a way that any of
43:05
these things expresses itself.
43:06
There's your way and for you, your way, I think you're very much
43:11
living this purpose, this destiny that you have, which is to be an
43:15
example of and guide people to.
43:18
Their most enthusiastic life.
43:20
What they're enthusiastic about is not gonna be what you're enthusiastic
43:23
about, but for you, you're like, it's this, it's hollering at your dreams.
43:27
And I think that that's so incredibly valuable.
43:30
And I wanted to, part of the reason I wanted to have you on the show is I've
43:34
wanted to have conversations on this show.
43:36
'cause I think that there is some confusion over what
43:40
it really takes to succeed.
43:42
Mm-hmm.
43:42
And there are so many strategic paths to go down.
43:46
There are so many, you know, like, I need to have events, or I need
43:48
to, I, I need to be this person because they did it that way.
43:53
And I, to me, and I wanna ask you the question, um, what do you
43:59
think, if there's anything universal in success, you have success.
44:06
You're around a lot of people who have, who have, you know,
44:09
had various degrees of success.
44:12
What do you see?
44:13
If you were to be like, I know there's not
44:15
one thing, but
44:16
you were like, there's, this
44:18
is the most important thing,
44:21
what do you feel
44:22
it is
44:22
for, for success?
44:24
Yeah.
44:24
To be successful in life?
44:26
In life.
44:27
I think it is a significant tolerance for pain spoken, like an emotional,
44:37
you know, you know, and I, I, you know, I'm a professionally trained,
44:40
you know, you're an actress.
44:42
I'm a professionally trained improviser and, and, you know, improv is, I do improv
44:45
on stage in my keynotes, so I use art and poetry and music and graffiti and improv.
44:50
I get people on stage that they're really in interactive, but improv changed my
44:54
life and it, it, one of the biggest things it did for me was really help me get.
44:59
Chill about the cringe and chill about the failure and chill about the
45:03
getting it wrong and the chill about the looking stupid, because I think
45:05
that's the level of success there.
45:07
There's so many people that want the quick fix the course.
45:10
So the solution, and listen, I've taken courses that have changed my life.
45:13
Marie Forleo's B School in 2013 when I took that, taught me everything
45:17
about building an online business.
45:18
And then I went and made it mine and turned it into all these other things.
45:21
So there are some beautiful tools like human design courses, learning, and
45:25
there there, of course, go out there and get that education for yourself.
45:29
In the speaking business,
45:34
I have a very big problem with.
45:39
People promising overnight success in this space, or manufacturing preview
45:44
videos or editing clips to make you look good on stage and stopping and starting.
45:48
There's a lot of this that happens and that ain't, that ain't real.
45:51
That ain't AAU authentic.
45:53
'cause now someone's gonna hire you and you can't really deliver a full talk.
45:56
And you know, I need to see you speaking for six minutes straight, no edits.
46:00
You know, can you deliver that?
46:01
I love your sizzle.
46:02
And we need those, we need those chopped up jump cuts.
46:04
People love that.
46:05
Get to it, right?
46:06
You gotta jump cut for Instagram and all that.
46:07
But like, do you have tape of you for six minutes at minimum,
46:11
delivering a key, a keynote on stage?
46:13
You know?
46:13
And if you don't have that, you know you're not ready
46:16
for the corporate stages yet.
46:17
Go get that.
46:18
You know, and, and, and, and start building to that.
46:20
You build to that.
46:21
But what it takes, what success takes is a tolerance for pain, in my opinion.
46:26
Patience.
46:29
The ability to focus and stay in your lane and put those blinders on
46:33
and to buckle up and do the work.
46:36
And, and, and sometimes maddeningly watch other people get it before you
46:42
and watch people less talented go, you know, and, and, and watch other people
46:47
win, you know, and, and, and, you know, you have to just do the work and, and,
46:53
and, and, and have the bad talks and the cringe moments and the bad off outfits.
46:58
And, you know, I'll never forget my first keynote where I was hired and
47:00
I, I was like 11 years ago and I was paid money and I had a video crew and
47:04
I wore all these chains and I had a microphone on, and I lost all the video
47:08
because I was ching ching, ching ching, ching ching, like all these things.
47:10
And just like.
47:11
Just so many, so many bad talks, so many bad slide decks, so many
47:18
bad ballrooms, so many bad outfits.
47:21
I mean, go through a scroll into the archives of my Instagram and
47:25
you will see an evolution of cringe.
47:28
You know, you will watch me even the way I look changes, right?
47:32
Because as I, you know, just, oh, it's just, it's interesting, you know, I,
47:36
I would, you know, even with the way I was forcing my, not becoming by
47:40
blonding my hair, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a dark haired girl, you know, and I, I
47:44
came back to my natural color over the years, and I think it's just helped
47:46
me look better and more like myself.
47:48
But I was like fighting who I was.
47:50
I just like, but I love her because it's the becoming of, and the,
47:54
and the, the braveness required on the relentless pursuit of figuring
47:59
out what dope is for you, right?
48:01
What, what a, a wildly precious, dangerously inspiring I life is for you.
48:07
And so success is what?
48:12
At the end of the day, it's, it's the, it's the un unpretty stuff.
48:14
It's just the, the work and being real.
48:17
And being real and not faking it, you know?
48:20
'cause we don't fake it around here.
48:22
We make it around here.
48:23
And I think that's a big difference.
48:24
Sometimes you have to.
48:26
You know, you know, right now we're, we're chasing the USA today bestseller.
48:29
So we're trying to make this book a national bestseller, right?
48:31
And so I am literally walking around seductively slow in this.
48:35
Like, what does it, like, how does a national bestseller, like, oh, I'm about
48:38
to go, oh, I'm booked on the, you know, I'm booked on Good Morning America.
48:41
If I sit down, what, how does, like I'm trying to move around
48:44
in that energy of it already is.
48:46
Yeah.
48:46
And so how does she dress today?
48:48
How does she show up today?
48:49
How does she get ready today?
48:50
What does her vanity look like?
48:52
What is she drinking in the morning?
48:53
What is she not drinking?
48:54
What is she eating?
48:55
What is she not eating?
48:56
So, but that's not faking it, that's making it until you make it.
48:59
I'm already, so maybe, you know, so you see what I'm saying?
49:01
That's an energy faking it is like.
49:03
Trying to do what someone else is doing or putting yourself into a box
49:06
or bending like gummy gumby or caging yourself or wearing something like
49:10
sitting here on this podcast being like really uncomfortable and all these
49:13
Spanx, because like I wore something.
49:15
Because I think that's how I'm supposed to show up on her.
49:16
No, I'm like, I'm gonna wear the denim dress and the white boots.
49:18
I feel like I need
49:19
big hoops.
49:20
Like, okay,
49:20
okay, that's the vibe, right?
49:21
Like
49:21
that's just like a comfort, right?
49:23
So I
49:23
think success is comfort on the other side of courage.
49:27
And it takes, and there's a journey to getting to that level of comfort.
49:30
You have
49:31
a long journey.
49:31
I'm 49 years old and I'm just, I'm still
49:33
it out.
49:34
Like, I'm staring on the barrel of 50 and I
49:36
feel like, oh my gosh,
49:37
finally.
49:38
You know what I mean?
49:39
But you're a sixth line as well.
49:40
So this is, this is that, you know, you're in that
49:43
magic moment.
49:44
It's the time.
49:44
Like,
49:44
ta-da, ta-da.
49:46
I'm finally, here she is, baby.
49:48
We've been working to this moment.
49:50
We've been, we've been getting here the whole time.
49:53
The whole, all the pain
49:54
is on purpose.
49:54
And I think like what was coming through for me, as you said,
49:57
all of that was, it's, there's endurance to, Ooh, I love that word.
50:03
Rise to the potential that you feel is there, even when you can't grab it.
50:10
Yeah.
50:10
Even when it's not.
50:11
And that I, I love
50:12
that you said, you know, that it doesn't happen overnight, that you
50:16
have the patience to sit with it, to be bad, to fail, and I feel like
50:21
to be judged, to be misunderstood.
50:23
Yeah.
50:23
To have your friends and family go.
50:24
Uh oh, look at her.
50:25
She loves herself.
50:26
Look at her on the Instagram.
50:27
Oh, she loves herself.
50:29
Okay.
50:30
Yeah, I do.
50:30
And guess what?
50:31
I'm hollering at a dream.
50:32
So, yeah.
50:34
You know, somebody, somebody said, you're too much.
50:36
Somebody literally recently said me.
50:37
Oh, Judy, you know, you're a lot.
50:39
You know, and, and I go, okay, well then go be less like, mm.
50:44
You free to do that,
50:45
you're free to do that too.
50:46
But like you have that too.
50:48
Like there will be people that do not understand your assignment and you have
50:53
to be okay with dropping some of the, those relationships like business calc.
50:57
I've had to shed a lot of people and a lot of layers in this
51:01
becoming too, and that is hard.
51:02
There will people, that there will be people that you deeply love that do not,
51:09
because then if you change and you go and you grow, oh, you're not their safe thing
51:14
And you also hold up a mirror for what they're not ready to do in themselves.
51:16
So that is hard.
51:17
That's a, that's a dance in itself.
51:20
And that's, you know, I, I feel like.
51:22
We think, because in the moment that feels bad, the fact that
51:26
we've grown and somebody else is not handling that very well.
51:30
But you also may be the permission slip that causes them to the catalyst for them
51:35
to say, maybe that's possible for me too, or maybe my version of that is possible
51:40
for me to, so I think our preconceived notions about, you know, that that
51:44
momentary pain about, you know, whether, you know, we don't wanna offend anybody,
51:48
we don't wanna, you know, so I will.
51:50
Sacrificed myself to please you.
51:52
Oh.
51:52
Or to make you comfortable.
51:53
Yep.
51:54
And I, I, I thank you for sharing all of that because I think that
51:58
it gets distorted and there's so
52:00
many voices out there and there's so much noise.
52:02
And with the show
52:04
part of my mission, we just hit 400
52:05
episodes.
52:06
Oh, I'm so, that's no smoke.
52:08
So you've been on the
52:08
about four
52:09
years then, huh?
52:10
Yeah.
52:10
Yeah.
52:11
Five.
52:11
That's no small feat.
52:11
That's no small feat.
52:12
Congratulations.
52:13
Thank you.
52:14
And just at that, like, whenever I hit a milestone, it's like,
52:17
okay, well now what's the mission?
52:19
Like, let's revisit this.
52:20
What, what else?
52:21
I'm not gonna like next.
52:22
Yeah.
52:23
Well, and like, what's evolution?
52:24
What do I wanna step into?
52:25
What's the message that I wanna bring to the show?
52:27
We've talked about 400 things on here.
52:29
Yeah.
52:30
So what's, what's kind of the next iteration?
52:32
And for me, I really want to bring voices on where they can
52:36
share what, what it really takes.
52:39
because there's a lot of bullshit
52:41
there.
52:42
and
52:42
there is.
52:43
I want this to be a place
52:44
of so much no
52:45
bullshit.
52:46
Yes.
52:47
Welcome to the show.
52:48
Welcome to the show.
52:49
I just, yeah.
52:51
You come from the acting world and in, even in the speaking world, you know,
52:55
and I think we're moving into, as we sort of prepare to welcome the sleeping
53:00
fe, the sleeping phoenix into the energetics of our world in 2027 and, and.
53:06
Into the next 400 years.
53:07
You know, we're the new, I think US creatives and us, um, lightworkers
53:12
and US paradigm shifters and US human designers are, are the
53:18
new, the new, the new soldiers.
53:20
We're on the front lines of this revolution, and it is more important
53:23
now than ever if the future is going to be about individual.
53:27
Individuality.
53:28
If old systems and structures and antiquated ways of doing and being are
53:33
going to be burnt down, they will over the next 400 years, and it's going
53:37
to be, and it's going to be about self sovereignty and taking power
53:41
back and individual individuality, it feels like a really good time to
53:47
understand who the F you are, what.
53:51
Is real for you.
53:52
Like for real, real.
53:54
Because everybody says keep it real.
53:55
So what is real for you?
53:57
What's your point of view?
53:58
What's your perspective?
53:59
What are you inspired by?
54:00
Right?
54:01
Are you in the laboratory of your life?
54:03
Are you out there recreating to recreate so you can build a
54:07
point of view and perspective?
54:09
You wanna cool keynote, you want a great book?
54:12
Go live an Interesting Life and tell me all about it.
54:15
Because that's what's gonna make you unique and original and an individual in a
54:18
world that is getting more systemized and fake and botted and AI AIed by the minute.
54:23
So now's the time.
54:24
We're the soldiers, we're on the front lines and I am just so excited
54:27
be a part of it and think of what, what it's gonna do for all
54:30
the babies, the kids watching us.
54:32
We are the
54:33
soldiers.
54:34
Yeah,
54:34
I love that.
54:35
And I think about that all the time because especially now we're
54:38
in a world where facts, who even knows what a fact is anymore.
54:41
Like it's totally put into question.
54:44
Um, I've, I watched the other day, I watched a video where
54:46
I'm, I I was watching it.
54:47
It sounded so real.
54:48
It sounded so.
54:50
It's unbelievable.
54:50
And, and I looked at it, I was like, that's a fake mouth.
54:52
And he wouldn't say these things.
54:54
Yes.
54:54
And, and I'm, I'm watching it.
54:56
I'm like, oh, this is a, this is a deep fake.
54:57
And so now, uh, and what I think Scary human design's role in all of
55:04
this as I see it, or the thing that I think is really valuable is you're
55:08
not trusting the outside world.
55:10
We're not looking for these trusted things which are gonna go away.
55:15
Yep.
55:15
Um, to validate our opinions, but to actually come back home to us and
55:20
to make decisions from our truth.
55:22
And I think a lot of us have not known for a long time what our truth really is.
55:27
Yes.
55:27
'cause we've been.
55:28
I, we have been identifying with the outside world.
55:31
We've been looking at the outside world to say, tell me what to do.
55:33
Tell me who I am.
55:35
Tell me what's me and what's right for me.
55:37
Tell me what I need to do to get the things that I want.
55:39
I wanna write the book.
55:40
I wanna write, I'm, I'm in the process of, you know, you know, trying
55:44
to find a book pub publisher and
55:46
I am,
55:46
am.
55:47
I said I
55:48
to write a book for years,
55:49
but there was, I
55:50
know the book wasn't ready
55:52
' cause I
55:53
ready.
55:54
I wasn't there.
55:55
yet.
55:55
Oh, you were writing it?
55:56
Oh, by the way,
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oh, I been writing it the whole time.
55:58
Your life is the writing.
56:00
Like
56:00
you, you are, you have been writing this book your whole life.
56:01
This is my first album.
56:03
Like, you know, like bands have like their first album and it's like, it's like Pearl
56:06
Jam 10 or something where it's like, this is the, you were working, their whole
56:10
life has been culminating at this moment.
56:12
And, but I wasn't, it wasn't ready to be born.
56:17
And I respected that timeline and there were some people in my life
56:21
that would say to me like, you know, you've been talking about it for years.
56:23
You just have to, you just have to do it.
56:24
And I'm like,
56:25
It really just feels like it's not there yet.
56:29
Yeah.
56:29
You don't feel like I'm procrastinating.
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Oh, I
56:31
feel like I'm brewing.
56:33
See, and you're feeling into it as, as an emotional, that is the,
56:36
the big question I'm asking myself.
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Yeah.
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You'd be so proud of me.
56:38
I've been telling people, I'm like, let me, you know what, thank
56:41
you so much for that request.
56:42
I, I, I love it.
56:43
Let me feel into it and I'll get back to you in the next couple of days.
56:46
But yeah, I mean, I feel you honest.
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It's an ultimate power move.
56:49
Let me, let me feel into that.
56:51
And you know, in COVID, all my speaker friends, everybody,
56:55
they're like, okay, cool.
56:55
We're just gonna drop a book.
56:56
A book, a book.
56:57
Everybody started dropping all these books and everybody's like, hall, eight
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years it took me to write my next book.
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I was like, I wasn't ready.
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It, she wasn't there yet.
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She hadn't hit.
57:03
And then when Hollerer hit, when it hit, it hit and I knew
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exactly what I was gonna do.
57:08
So you're on that path, like you're, you felt it into it.
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Now she's ready.
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But yeah, you're taking your power back.
57:13
You know, it is about not looking outside of you.
57:16
It's looking inside of you.
57:16
Like Dorothy the red, the ruby red slippers, she had
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'em the whole freaking time.
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It was always inside of her.
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She didn't need Oz. And I think that's it in a nutshell.
57:24
That's the metaphor.
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There is no Oz. It's why like you even look, you know, take, draw
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the parallels to self-publishing.
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People are artists no longer going with big labels.
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A lot of these musicians are like the Doche of the world.
57:37
They're pulling back their power and they're creating their
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own armies and their own team and their own worlds, right?
57:42
It's why kids are like, oh, I don't need Disney anymore and actually I don't need
57:47
to go to audition for Saturday Night Live.
57:49
I'm gonna make my own show and I'm gonna be whatever Mr. Beast or this,
57:52
this, this, and create my own world.
57:56
That's where, that's how Sleeping Phoenix feels for me energetically and
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creative creatively for a lot of people.
58:02
So I think whether you're writing a book or building a show or creating
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anything new, this is a good time to like self sovereignty here because the
58:13
way it used to be done, you don't there gatekeepers, I think it's kind of.
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We are the gay,
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Like we're gonna be able to like sort of hire ourselves, which
58:21
is really cool to consider.
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Right.
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We hold the power.
58:25
I think authenticity is its own currency.
58:27
Yeah.
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I think that that's, and I think that we are moving into a space right now where
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people are feeling into the investments that they make, into the people that
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they put their time and energy into.
58:38
They're energetically feeling into that more than ever, rather than looking
58:42
at the features or the credentials or that, it's just like, do I feel
58:47
something authentic from this person?
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And I think for the first time that's becoming the, you know, one of the
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top priorities versus, you know, all of the other accolades and things.
58:59
And I think if people start to prioritize that within themselves,
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the minute I started to prioritize who I was and my le my level of
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authenticity with myself and making that my priority, everything changed.
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And
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design was just the framework that I used to find that, and to not, and to stop.
59:20
Instead of being like, you know what's authentic?
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Let me go watch this person's video online and see what their authentic is, and
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then see if I could be that authentic and
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That's not authentic.
59:28
Instead, I went like, like, to me and the lens of the chart was just
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like, let's explore this aspect of
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yeah.
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Because of how am I not living that?
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Yes.
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And,
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and be like, Ooh.
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Yeah.
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You got curious.
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I
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got very curious because if something doesn't belong to you, it won't stay with
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you and you won't wanna stay with it.
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Right.
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And so yes and correct.
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Do not go out and paint your life with someone else's brush.
59:51
And so the canvas of your life.
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And so human design is a beautiful tool to, to if you, it's a,
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it's a great place to start.
59:59
I, I don't know.
1:00:00
I wish this was taught in school, like it is the future.
1:00:03
It is, to me it is.
1:00:05
The one thing I would say I have done personally that has changed.
1:00:09
'cause when I read my chart and when I really started to unpack, I was like.
1:00:13
The level of understanding I had in myself and the level of confidence
1:00:19
I got because I felt so protected.
1:00:22
I was like, yep, here's why I'm here.
1:00:24
This has all been on purpose.
1:00:25
I am in the neighborhood.
1:00:27
I'm just moving into a new house, as you told me,
1:00:30
a
1:00:30
different house down the street.
1:00:31
We're just gonna upgrade a little bit.
1:00:33
Um, but, but like, oh my God, if you are, I mean, everybody listening is
1:00:39
likely obsessed with human design like we are, but, um, you know, it's
1:00:44
a really beautiful tool to figure out who you are and what real is for you.
1:00:48
And so I think one of the biggest things you can ask yourself, and
1:00:51
this is something I ask people at networking events, is, you know
1:00:53
what, you know, instead of the what do you do and where are you from?
1:00:56
And tell me where are you vacation I the small talk, the, if you ever
1:01:00
see me out, I'm gonna ask you this.
1:01:01
So would you have an answer?
1:01:02
And I'd love to know your answer right now.
1:01:04
Um, I. What inspires you?
1:01:06
Like, so what's inspiring you right now?
1:01:08
Because now I, now I now I don't get the corporate mask.
1:01:11
I get you.
1:01:12
What are you reading?
1:01:13
What are you listening to?
1:01:13
Where are you traveling?
1:01:14
Are you inspired by Spain?
1:01:15
Are you inspired by graffiti?
1:01:16
Did you just go somewhere cool?
1:01:17
What, what are I'm really into protein and yogurt.
1:01:19
Oh my God, I'm doing this thing at the gym.
1:01:21
Like
1:01:21
I start to find out who you
1:01:23
are and what's inspiring you right now.
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What?
1:01:26
Whether it's what you're reading, what you're listening to, what you're
1:01:29
wearing, what you're vibing with, right?
1:01:31
So like what is that thing that's inspiring you right now is a
1:01:34
beautiful thing to be able to answer.
1:01:36
And if you don't have a list of the people, places and things that inspire
1:01:39
you in your notes on your iPhone, go
1:01:41
that.
1:01:41
That's homework assignment.
1:01:42
Like keep that running list.
1:01:44
You know, I'll have things that are forever inspiring me.
1:01:46
Things like Gilda Radner, right?
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She's one of my biggest inspirations.
1:01:50
Oh my God.
1:01:50
You know, I mean.
1:01:51
My mom's favorite.
1:01:52
Oh
1:01:52
my God.
1:01:53
Gilda, I mean, was amused for me.
1:01:55
The Beastie Boys, the boombox, graffiti, the graffiti, the
1:02:00
entire generation of the nineties.
1:02:02
Like these are OGs, neon colors, these are OG denim.
1:02:06
These are, these are OGs in my life that have always
1:02:08
inspired me in everything I do.
1:02:10
Go take a spin through my world and you'll see that.
1:02:12
But then there are new things that come in, you know, that I get inspired by.
1:02:14
I moved to the desert and I start to get to know cactuses.
1:02:17
I'm like, yo, like a cactus blooms in the desert.
1:02:20
Yeah, no water, flowers.
1:02:21
I'm like, dude, if I can do that, I can do anything.
1:02:23
You know?
1:02:23
So I got really inspired by cacti and now I'm really into, like, I just
1:02:27
picked up a crocheting thing and I'm, I'm really into spray paint right now,
1:02:30
so I'm so playing with spray paint.
1:02:32
I'm really, so again, it makes me an
1:02:34
person and it inspires my work.
1:02:36
So what are you inspired by, Nicole?
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I'd love to know what you're inspired by now.
1:02:39
Like what's really turning you on right now?
1:02:42
What am I inspired by right now?
1:02:43
I have actually gone back in time, so I was very much in the here and now for a
1:02:47
while, like musically and stuff like that.
1:02:49
Music has always been one of my biggest inspirations.
1:02:52
Um, I was a music, you know, kid, I had an almost famous moment in my life where
1:02:57
I like knew these people in concerts.
1:03:00
So I was like, I went to like every show in New York City for like three years.
1:03:03
And you s are you a singer?
1:03:05
I'm not a singer.
1:03:06
I can sing.
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Okay.
1:03:06
I can, I can carry a tune, but I would not call myself a singer.
1:03:09
I wish I could have been a singer, but like, yeah, I've sat on like,
1:03:12
you know, on the speakers on the side of the stage at Pearl Jam and
1:03:14
stuff like that with like Meg Ryan.
1:03:16
Like I had moments like that.
1:03:17
Um, but, but right now, yeah, I've gone back to like the nineties.
1:03:21
I've gone back to like nineties rock.
1:03:22
'cause I was like an alternative girl and I'm just sort of, kind of swimming in the.
1:03:29
The, it's, it was very
1:03:31
angsty.
1:03:31
Yeah.
1:03:32
time.
1:03:32
And while I don't feel angsty necessarily, and I, I am kind of raging
1:03:37
against the machine a little bit at the moment, another great band from
1:03:39
the, and I know I've been, I've been, I've been cranking them in the car,
1:03:42
I'm gonna play them one on my ride home and.
1:03:43
Like
1:03:44
Rock, like, it's kind of just been, been speaking to me at
1:03:47
the moment, going back to like,
1:03:49
there's something in there, this is fun.
1:03:51
And, and just, just the sounds.
1:03:53
And I've been really inspired by just the emotionality.
1:03:58
Of that time there was like, it was like a big open wound, the nineties
1:04:04
of just like, there was joy, there was, there was hope, but there was
1:04:09
also just like, look at our pain.
1:04:11
Yeah.
1:04:11
Rebellion.
1:04:12
It's real.
1:04:13
Yeah.
1:04:13
And there's something that's just kind of calling to me right now where, and
1:04:17
there were times where I couldn't listen to it like I used to and then, but
1:04:21
I'm having a moment with it right now.
1:04:22
So that's kind of like, I worked out this morning, I was told, I worked
1:04:24
out to like Stone Temple pilots and, and all of those old bands.
1:04:28
And I've just kind of been watching, like when I cook, my husband and I cook, we,
1:04:33
we put on like old concerts on YouTube and we dance and we cook and I'm, I'm
1:04:39
fully like in love with all of that.
1:04:43
And yeah.
1:04:43
And then outside of that, it's honestly, I'm inspired by silence right now.
1:04:47
I like walks without the earbuds.
1:04:50
Great answer.
1:04:51
And just listening to.
1:04:53
Birds and walking my dogs and just having nothing and seeing what that space like
1:05:01
a walking meditation can drop in for me.
1:05:05
Mm-hmm.
1:05:05
Like when I create the space.
1:05:07
'cause I realize I'm a mangen.
1:05:09
I'm not great at creating space, not my strong suit.
1:05:12
You know, we can fill time.
1:05:14
You'd like to fill time.
1:05:15
We love to move.
1:05:17
Yeah.
1:05:17
And,
1:05:17
and I love to move so I can move, but I can also be quiet.
1:05:20
And that's sort of something that's, that's kind of, you know,
1:05:23
fill in my soul at the moment.
1:05:25
Thank you for all.
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Okay.
1:05:26
Look what So listener.
1:05:28
Watch her.
1:05:29
Look what just happened there.
1:05:30
That's Nicole.
1:05:31
That's not a mask.
1:05:32
That's something very interesting and unique and real.
1:05:36
And.
1:05:38
I can't wait to watch what you do with some of this self-discovery and some of
1:05:43
this inspiration, and the silence answer was so unexpected and so beautiful, and.
1:05:50
You know, as a projector just makes my soul sing, right?
1:05:52
Because the silence is just like, you know, that, that thing to get
1:05:55
really comfortable with over here if you wanna be at the fullest
1:05:58
expression of your projectism.
1:05:59
But, um, wow, Nicole, like, that's, that's why we want an answer to that question.
1:06:04
So who are you?
1:06:05
And, and, and I think it's hard to know who you are if you don't
1:06:07
have things you're inspired by.
1:06:08
If you're not out in your life living it, if you're not, the first thing
1:06:12
cut is recreation and vacations and fun stuff and creative expression.
1:06:16
We take it off our calendar 'cause we're slammed and busy and overwhelmed.
1:06:18
But it's actually in all of that, that you, you find out who you are.
1:06:22
So, you know, court your creativity, take yourself out on those weekly And
1:06:26
Labat writes about, you know, those creativity, no, Julia Cameron, in the
1:06:29
artist's way, the creativity dates, right?
1:06:32
You know, so are you, are you an active participant in the
1:06:35
creative process that is your life?
1:06:36
And all of that will give you point of view and.
1:06:39
If you wanna create something, you have to court that creativity court.
1:06:43
You've got to, you've, you've got to end silence,
1:06:47
Journaling, all of those ways of just experiencing and
1:06:50
time with
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yourself Yeah.
1:06:51
Is
1:06:52
that can come through.
1:06:52
You can't do
1:06:53
it when you're moving all the
1:06:54
time.
1:06:54
No.
1:06:55
Um, so should we, should we ask the book of questions?
1:06:58
Okay.
1:06:58
Let's, you want me to read?
1:06:59
We'll do an article, Oracle reading.
1:07:00
So ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna flip through, holler at your dreams
1:07:03
and, uh, see what she gives us today.
1:07:06
You know, as we sort of think about how we wanna wrap this up and what message,
1:07:10
um, we're gonna leave, leave not just the listeners with, but ourselves with today.
1:07:14
So this is for all of us listening.
1:07:15
We just shared space together, sacred, sacred space together.
1:07:18
So let's, let's get the message.
1:07:20
We need to move on with our day and have, uh, her tell us.
1:07:23
And I'm gonna, I'm gonna give her a couple flips here, but I think I kind of wanna do
1:07:27
a
1:07:28
a soft flip to the beginning here somewhere.
1:07:31
Oh my gosh.
1:07:34
What
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Oh lord.
1:07:36
Okay.
1:07:37
We opened to graveyard of dreams, which is very interesting because intuitively
1:07:42
at the beginning when we were talking about what one of your fears was when we
1:07:46
were talking about fear, you were like, you know, the things I haven't done,
1:07:49
the things I've held back on are really these things that, you know, it's, the
1:07:52
truth about it is the fear of success.
1:07:53
Oh my God, what if it works?
1:07:55
And what if I become and what if, oh my God, there's a tension.
1:07:57
And what if people see me?
1:07:58
And then now, oh my God, I'm gonna get feedback and oh my God, it's, it's scary.
1:08:02
Growth is scary because.
1:08:03
Success is the real true fear, the master fear, the mother of all fears, right?
1:08:07
So, so many what I was gonna say to you, and then we moved on.
1:08:10
So many dreams end up in the graveyard because of that, the graveyard of dreams.
1:08:14
And so I opened to Graveyard of Dreams, a piece in the book and I'll read it to you.
1:08:18
And there's also a poem on the other side called State of Emergency.
1:08:22
This is a state of emergency, so I might read you the last section of state
1:08:26
of emergency and graveyard of dreams.
1:08:28
'cause they kind of go together.
1:08:29
So graveyard of Dreams.
1:08:31
One of my favorite quotes of all time is the Les Brown Graveyard of Dreams quote.
1:08:35
And honestly, it reads more like a piece of poetry than a quote, an epitaph, an
1:08:39
invitation, an anthem, a power ballot, a call to action that reminds us that
1:08:44
success goes to those who keep moving.
1:08:47
Here's what he writes.
1:08:49
This is one of my favorite quotes of all of the earth of time.
1:08:52
The graveyard is the richest place on earth because it is here that you will
1:08:57
find all the hopes and dreams that were never fulfilled, the books that were never
1:09:01
written, the songs that were never sung, the inventions that were never shared,
1:09:04
the cures that were never discovered, all because someone was too afraid to take
1:09:09
the first step, keep with the problem, or determined to carry out their dream.
1:09:19
So that's the essence of hollering at your dreams.
1:09:22
It's, it's not all the steps.
1:09:25
It's not the perfect business plan.
1:09:27
It's not the perfect systems or strategy.
1:09:29
It's the first step.
1:09:30
And then the next step, and then the next step next to it is a piece
1:09:33
called, this is a state of emergency.
1:09:35
And the last part of it is, there's three sections I talk about.
1:09:38
This is a state of emergency, your mind.
1:09:40
This is a state of emergency, your body, and I share why it's a, it's important
1:09:43
to pay attention to those two things.
1:09:45
But the last one is, this is a state of emergency, your soul.
1:09:49
It always knows deep in your bones if it's a yes or if it's a no,
1:09:54
but your ego, it loves control.
1:09:56
Did you know that ego is just identity in a role built on fear,
1:10:00
doubt and self patrol science.
1:10:02
Yo, it'll trick your mind, get you misaligned.
1:10:05
Have you thinking you're better than or less than, but you are neither.
1:10:09
You are the ether.
1:10:10
You are the breath between lightning and
1:10:13
You are like
1:10:15
no other,
1:10:19
I'm sorry.
1:10:21
Don't be sorry.
1:10:26
Different by design, divinely by wonder.
1:10:29
To read my poetry out loud is like,
1:10:34
Thank you.
1:10:35
Thank you for sharing it with us.
1:10:37
It's like a dream come true.
1:10:39
I know.
1:10:39
I'm so sorry.
1:10:41
Why are you sorry?
1:10:41
Oh my God.
1:10:42
You're hollering at your dream.
1:10:43
It is a dream.
1:10:44
Like I this's the first time I've be like read publicly things I've written.
1:10:48
So privately,
1:10:52
that is what it feels like to holler at your dreams.
1:10:55
You know?
1:10:56
It just is So, it's medicine, it's it's trust, it's Oh, it's vulnerable.
1:11:03
It's scary.
1:11:03
But yeah, I'm so proud of myself right now.
1:11:06
Like, I just can't believe I did it, you know, and I, to share it with you.
1:11:10
And
1:11:10
say it out loud, I just did not expect to be so emotionally charged.
1:11:14
But, um, it says a lot about the safety you could be.
1:11:16
So
1:11:18
I think it's a gift to not be like.
1:11:23
Unfeeling walking through that, that was beautiful.
1:11:27
And I love how that's written where the graveyard of dreams, um, that
1:11:34
even just saying that hit home for me.
1:11:36
So I love owning this book.
1:11:38
You open up to that.
1:11:39
You see graveyard of dreams and that gives you, it's like pulling a card.
1:11:42
It's, you know, you are, you're being invited into this space to
1:11:46
say, like, for some reason this is the message that I was given today.
1:11:49
Yes.
1:11:50
And what does that mean for me?
1:11:53
Yes.
1:11:53
Yes, me.
1:11:53
And what if I walked through the graveyard of my dreams?
1:11:57
Yes.
1:11:58
What do I see there?
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What are the hopes and dreams that are laying there, you know?
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And what does it say on the.
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Tombstone
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what's lying dormant.
1:12:04
And this, this is a state of emergency.
1:12:06
And when I wrote that, I think that's why I felt it so deeply.
1:12:09
'cause I was trying to tell myself like, Judy, wake up.
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This is a state of emergency.
1:12:14
You are the ether my girl.
1:12:15
You are everything.
1:12:17
You are, you are, you are everything in all of it.
1:12:19
And then Sum, I wrote this book to, to come to, to heal myself, you know?
1:12:25
And so to, so to be able to say it out loud just brought me right back
1:12:30
to where I was when I wrote it.
1:12:31
I remember what I was wearing and where I was sitting and how I was
1:12:34
feeling and who I was becoming.
1:12:36
And so I really felt like I was, it was an emergency for me to remember this, right?
1:12:40
And to come back home to myself.
1:12:41
And so, yeah, what's a state of emergency in your life and, and what needs to be
1:12:46
looked at acutely and urgently, uh, to bring you back home to yourself so it
1:12:51
doesn't end up in the graveyard of dreams.
1:12:52
And this book almost did.
1:12:54
And I think that's why I
1:12:55
so emotional because she, she might not have been here
1:12:59
had I not woken up, you know,
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I think this is a call to, to the listener.
1:13:06
What dream are you not honoring with your patient?
1:13:11
With your
1:13:13
endurance and your willingness to stay with it through the uncomfortable.
1:13:18
Yes.
1:13:18
And through the times where it doesn't feel like it's gonna happen.
1:13:21
Yes.
1:13:22
But it's yours.
1:13:22
If it's yours.
1:13:23
Yeah.
1:13:24
It is sustainable.
1:13:25
It'll be there.
1:13:25
Yep.
1:13:26
And this is
1:13:27
emotional
1:13:27
projector moment, by the way, brought to you by, uh, unshakeable with Nicole.
1:13:34
Thank you for being
1:13:34
Thank you for being here.
1:13:35
Where can they Yeah, thank you.
1:13:35
Get this amazing book
1:13:37
so you can buy this book anywhere books are sold and, um, you can find
1:13:41
out all the good information on judy holler.com or holler your dreams.
1:13:44
Uh, dot com specifically.
1:13:47
We're in pre-order, and um, book is officially out on
1:13:50
9th.
1:13:50
So, um, anywhere you love to buy books, she'll be, and I can't wait for you.
1:13:54
You have to, if you go get, you have
1:13:55
to tell me.
1:13:55
Holler at you.
1:13:56
Go find me on Instagram.
1:13:57
Um, and tell me
1:13:58
take a
1:13:59
you thought.
1:13:59
Take a picture of it.
1:14:00
Yeah.
1:14:00
Tag me.
1:14:01
Put it
1:14:01
it on Instagram.
1:14:02
tag.
1:14:03
Judy,
1:14:03
your favorite piece.
1:14:04
I can't wait to hear what, how
1:14:05
people respond to it and what
1:14:06
latch onto and what your first official Oracle reading answer's gonna be.
1:14:10
You know?
1:14:10
Yeah.
1:14:11
Open your page, take a picture, put it out there.
1:14:13
Tag Judy.
1:14:14
And, and I'm so excited.
1:14:16
I've already ordered, I've already pre-ordered my multi, my multiple copies.
1:14:20
Yes, you did.
1:14:20
And
1:14:21
And because I can't wait to get it, and I'm gonna give it as gift.
1:14:23
And I'm just so grateful.
1:14:25
Thank you to you for being here.
1:14:26
Thank you for the space
1:14:28
for, for bringing this.
1:14:29
Yeah.
1:14:30
Thank you here.
1:14:31
It felt good.
1:14:32
I needed it.
1:14:33
My soul needed it today and to meet you in person was really lovely.
1:14:36
Thank you for the work you're doing in the world.
1:14:38
I'm so glad you're my human design amuse and mentor.
1:14:41
And, um, I can't wait to go even deeper
1:14:44
all of that, but
1:14:44
just like, thank you for opening my eyes in a new way and for
1:14:47
trusting me with your audience.
1:14:48
You have a really great, and I love the Luna, uh, monthly.
1:14:53
Oh, Christina.
1:14:53
Oh, the Christina.
1:14:54
Those are so fun.
1:14:55
And I get, I put it
1:14:56
my calendar and I do, and I write it.
1:14:59
I get, I sit down coffee, oh, it is a sacred I pot and I write it down and I, I,
1:15:03
I, it
1:15:04
a.
1:15:04
ritual in my life every month.
1:15:07
Oh yeah.
1:15:07
I
1:15:07
go back to those episodes and I re-listened to
1:15:10
or sometimes I text
1:15:10
the transits,
1:15:12
what you said about the 12th, no
1:15:16
shit.
1:15:16
And the way you layer it with the gates and the things that are happening.
1:15:19
Oh my God, it's so good.
1:15:20
Nicole,
1:15:21
thank you very much.
1:15:22
That's the thing, and thank you for being you.
1:15:24
Thank you for, for everything that we've gotten to do together because
1:15:26
you're absolutely my favorite type of person to work with somebody that
1:15:29
like loves and honors the work and just goes out there and lives it.
1:15:32
It's the greatest thing.
1:15:33
Thank you and thank you listener for making it all the way to
1:15:35
the end of this episode with us.
1:15:37
We appreciate you.
1:15:38
And remember,
1:15:39
in order to have an unshakeable business, you must first become an unshakeable human
1:15:42
So
1:15:42
thanks for letting us help you become unshakeable with human Zion.
1:15:45
We'll see you next time.