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Verlander Comes Home · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the three O take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now, who Welcome back to the three O 10%
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by Chinook. Cedry, This is episode 594.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corn. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Casey, how are we, Bud? We're down a man.
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Down a man. We're down a man JB in the
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corner took a sick day. Take a.
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Sick day. Probably just opening cards
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truthfully. Yeah, dude, just licking his
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fingers trying to RIP those packages open.
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Probably just didn't want to be bothered but honestly it's great
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because we can literally say whatever we want.
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Like like the like the old days true dude.
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And not no fact checks and not be checked whatsoever.
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It's kind of a freeing feeling. I'm back.
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Yeah, Nathan is. This is his.
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His right drive this. Is his true environment right
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here so this will be fun but we're we miss we miss Josh in
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the corner. Hopefully he gets back soon.
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But yeah, this will be, I would say, next man up.
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But it's just, it's just us. Just us.
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Yeah, throwing it back. Just kind of throwing it back a
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little bit. I've got I've got something I
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got to get off my chest. And right off the top, OK, yeah.
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Let's hear I need I need to know if this is you've seen those
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like those like Instagram or TikTok guys that are like gas or
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pass like is like they go to a restaurant, like try it and
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they'll tell you. Have you ever seen one of those
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where it's passed? I feel like it's gas every time.
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Maybe it's every time. OK, fair enough.
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In more ways than one. But my my question is I brought
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this up with my wife. She was a hard pass but I need
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to know if I'm crazy or not OK I had a dream the other night that
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I was grilling. It's growing a whole bunch of
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stuff, just veggies and and different meats and all this
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kind of stuff, right? But one of the things I was
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grilling and I need to know if I need to go to Shark Tank with
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this super thin hot dogs, like like the size of like asparagus,
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but they're hot dogs. It's like a straw, like a hot
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dog. Like a straw but made of hot dog
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basically. Yeah, and I was making like 20
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of them, just flipping those suckers around, rolling them
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out, and they looked. What do you mean rolling them
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out like? Where you just roll them on the
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grill, you get a little spatula in your.
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Roll No, no, no, I hear you. But how did you get them to that
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state to begin with? Are you just, do you just have
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like ground up hot dog? No, they were.
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They were just, they were that way in my dream.
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Oh, right, right. This is a dream.
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I I think I blocked that part out and I thought you were
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actually grilling these things. OK, so this is your dream.
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So like thin hot dog rods, basically thin as asparagus?
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Right. Like that's the it's, you know,
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like a longer than like a normal hot dog, but very thin.
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It's almost like a hot dog fry. Almost.
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You could kind of pitch it into it's like a, like a shoestring
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hot dog. Shoestring hot dog, you know.
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Yeah, those would be crispy, but I think it could.
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I think it could pass. I feel like it could work.
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And she I mean I. Pass in a good way, but.
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I told her it's at, you know, 7:30 in the morning, probably
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not the right time to deliver it, but I was like, you know,
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maybe we've got something here. Yeah, I don't think Shoestring
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Hot Dog is the right play to pitch at 7:30 in the morning,
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but. It was fresh on my mind.
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I never remember my dreams, so I was like, I need to tell
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somebody about this now. Fair.
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That's how that goes. You got to you got to get those
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dreams out out recorded before you forget No, count me in as as
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as gas. I think that would I would try
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it. I think yeah, absolutely.
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Whether I continue to to purchase slash consume, it's up
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for debate, but I I would. Most certainly.
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Try it. Yeah, yeah.
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They made chicken fries, but they called them crazy.
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You know, the creators at Burger King, there's probably a couple
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of people at that table that were like, what?
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Those things are unreal and they're fantastic.
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Speaking of fantastic, you know what?
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You know what's fantastic, Nate? A nice dose of nostalgia.
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You know where I'm going with this.
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I think you know where I'm going with this.
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I think so. Justin Verlander coming home to
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the Tigers. This just felt right.
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I'll be honest with you. And look, I put the whole, I
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know, I know people have their thoughts on Justin Verlander as
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it relates to this, the Houston scandal.
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And he had some comments following that thing.
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And I know that I know that Cloud has followed him around
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ever so lightly, maybe not as strongly as some of the position
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players that were directly benefiting from said scandal,
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but he was certainly involved. He was, he was part of the mix
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there, benefited from it. But I kind of, you know, I, I
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set that aside, I'm like, I, I can look past that and I can
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just celebrate and acknowledge the fact that him coming home is
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kind of cool because you don't, you don't get this.
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You don't get this every day, especially with a player with
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his resume. Yeah, I don't know why.
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For me personally, the scandal stuff doesn't even like I He's
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not a name that flashes in my head.
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He had a couple that's fair. And honestly, it rarely or like
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it barely does for me, but he I, I do recall and I think we even
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talked about on here like years ago at this point, but he, he
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had a couple sound bites or a couple couple quotes after the
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fact where it was like putting your foot in your mouth a little
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bit. And I think it and the fact that
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he's simply associated with that team, I think carries a little
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bit of a stink to him for people.
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But I mean, I get it. I don't blame people.
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I just personally, I don't know, just doesn't really come to
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mind. But I like this.
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I mean, I feel like the Tigers have like turned a corner and
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they're like they're trying to do something.
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And I think you could kind of spin this.
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I think it kind of seems like a retirement tour.
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Opportunity, right? Are we just going to put that
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out there? Are we are we going to get that
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out in the open? Is is it?
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Are we? Are we just we break that news?
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Are we writing in Sharpie that this is Justin Verlander's final
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season? I think it depends on his
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success. I think if he does well, it's
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done. Should be done.
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But on the flip side, it if he does poorly, is he the type of
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guy that's going to want to end on a high note or is he going to
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be like, I'm I'm washed? I think, I think he's going to
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end on a high note. I think he does.
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I think he does. Well, I feel like this would
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have to be the year to do it because it's not.
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You're not going to, you're going the age wise, you're going
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the wrong direction to be able to bounce back.
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Right, right. Getting older is not favorable
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typically in most scenarios. That's what's coming for you
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when you get older. The whole I'm trying to figure
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the Tigers out, you know, as you do with.
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Most teams, I feel like that's that's Nate with most teams.
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Really, I'm just trying to fence.
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I'm on, I'm on the fence. What is Nate on the fence about,
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truthfully? It's a good point.
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It's a good point. Shoe, string, hot dogs, I'm all.
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In, you're all in on that. I, I respect the play.
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I don't know what to say, man. I don't know what the rotation
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look like. What's to figure out?
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I I'll be honest with you, I really like the Tigers going
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into 2026 and I don't think that's that hot of a take.
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That rotation that you mentioned.
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As of right now, you're looking at the Tiger, but not for long.
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Terek Scubal holding it down up top and then in the two slot you
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got for Amber Valdez, Jack Flaherty, Justin Verlander and
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Casey Mize. I really like that rotation.
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That's not bad. That's not bad.
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And I've been, I, I mentioned it, I think even was it last
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episode where whenever, Yeah, I, I was talking to Casey Mize.
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I'm like, I've been pulling. I've really been rooting for
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this kid. Like I want him to be.
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I want him to do well. And maybe the, I'm, I'm not
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saying it's a guarantee, but maybe bringing in a guy like, I
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mean, certainly it helps to have Tarek Skubal in your, in your,
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you know, hanging around him all the time.
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I'm sure you can glean some, some knowledge from him.
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But a guy like Justin Verlander, even as good as Tarek Schuble
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has been, Justin Verlander's resume and legacy speaks for
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itself. So bring it.
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Maybe bringing him into the clubhouse will be just another
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voice that a guy like Casey Maas can benefit from.
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So All in all, rotation wise, I'm I'm a big fan.
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And even then for, you know, like a Jack Flaherty, like I, I
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think there's. Good point.
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There's things that you know, to learn as you're like, you're
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past the the young 20s and like I can, I can just like solely
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rely on my my physical talent. Now your brain is developed and
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you're starting to, you know, kind of see the game differently
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there. I think there's like a a new
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level that can be reached, but it's tough, man, like Casey
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mice. It's like you got like that
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pressure being the number one pick and everyone's like, oh,
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you're you're going to be the ace, you're going to be the face
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of the franchise. And it's like that just doesn't
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pan out that way most of the time.
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So like, I think we can just be happy and accepting the fact
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that he's like A345 starter and you know, maybe there's more to
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come. I don't know, But I do like the
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rotation. I do like the rotation.
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I the the Tarek Schuble stuff is just scary, dude.
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Like it, it scares me. It scares me that it's like
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being so mismanaged in a way that like, you don't know what's
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going to happen if they have a really slow, rough start.
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Like, does he get traded before the deadline?
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Do they mismanage this and like, hold on to him and, you know,
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try and make a run? Like, I don't know.
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I don't know. He's not going to be I, I, we
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don't know. We as in the baseball community
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don't know exactly how it's going to go down.
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But I think we at the very least know that he's not going to be a
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Tiger for long. And I think we've known that to
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be the case for some time just because what made you think that
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they were going to really go for it with Scubble regarding a
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contract? And I think the way that this
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arbitration process went, I think it's only muddy the water
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or yeah, muddy the water that much more.
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And I just like if if you've got your back-to-back Cy Young
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winner, Ace bringing his Cy Young awards to the arbitration
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hearing as evidence, I just don't know how that relationship
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can, I don't want to say recover, but I just don't know
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how that that blossoms into a long term extension, you know?
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Especially we got like a snake on your shoulder just whispering
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into your ear of Scott Boris. Dude, that guy is just so worse.
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I just, I don't think, you know, I, I love what the Tigers have
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been able to do as of late, just organizationally, but I just
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don't see them ponying up what. What's going to be needed?
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I get that. But like what I'm saying is that
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like do they, what if? Because right now, if you look
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at the situation, they kind of look like they could go for it
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this year especially. In a position in an AL.
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What if they're in a real good spot and they're like, let's,
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let's buy? Well, we kind of saw that this
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year. And then you're not moving
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Scubal and then you're not recouping anything.
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It's just gone. I don't know.
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I don't know, man. It's a strange spot.
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Think they still got to get some some some hitters though, don't
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they? Line up wise, the projection
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that I'm looking at Scott Colt, Keith Glaber Torres, Carrie
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Carpenter, Riley Green, Spencer Torkelson, Wenzel Perez, Zach
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Mckinstry, Dylan Dingler, Parker Meadows.
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Yeah, I need a couple bats getting late, yeah.
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I agree with you, but I, I mean, I know, I, I know I prefaced all
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this by saying I'm I like where the tigers are AT and all that,
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but I, I agree with you. It could certainly benefit from
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a little bit of pop, especially in that park.
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But yeah, and as cool as it was to see Spencer Torkelson have
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his moment a little bit, can you really count on that?
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm saying the only
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truth there in there for me is, is Riley Green.
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I think Carrie Carpenter's come in, but he he hasn't, you know,
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really broke out yet. Yeah, they need some sticks,
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dude. I don't know how or when, but
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they need it. Anyway, back to the retirement
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tour thing. I do you are we just like done
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with like the gifts before first pitch, like the other teams
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giving you cool stuff? Who was the last guy?
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Who was the last guy we we saw do that?
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Pools. Was that 20 I?
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Don't remember him getting that that many.
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I remember Miggy getting a lot. Miggy yeah, no, I mean, pools
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definitely got got some things for sure, maybe not as much, but
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he he no, he had announced before that year, right before
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the before the season started. Pools, I thought he did that.
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That obviously plays a big, a big factor.
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But to your point, maybe, maybe Verlander's the type of guy that
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would want to go out on a high note.
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And so maybe he wouldn't, he wouldn't necessarily make that
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announcement until after the fact.
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So, yeah, but I'm sure, I'm sure everybody's thinking it,
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including him. But he did say, didn't he say he
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wants to pitch till at least through his age 45 season, which
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I've said before, if there's a guy that could do it, at least
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in today's game, it would be him.
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Whether or not that ends up happening, whether performance
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or for whatever other reason. But he'd be the guy to do it, I
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guess. What's your gut say?
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Done after this year or no? Yeah, yeah.
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Done well what is it he's couple milestones away, isn't he isn't
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there some big milestones coming up he's. 8th all time in career
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strikeouts and he's I think right behind.
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He's knocking on the door of 7th, tied with Bob Feller and
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EPA Rixie for 34th. Oh, EPA.
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In wins, did I say that He's got 266 wins for those that keep
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track of that. It's over 3500 innings, 3500
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strikeouts. I mean, he's not.
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It's not like it's any big milestone.
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I guess that's within reach. Yeah, I mean, he's pretty much
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he's he's etched his he has long since etched his resume.
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At this point, he's just climbing the ranks.
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I will. Say, though, throw a little
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respect on him. He made 29 starts last year.
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Yeah, it wasn't. It was last year.
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He was like, he was like 52 innings O and eight over his
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first like 1516 starts I think. Finished year 4 and 11, but
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that's besides the point. 150 innings.
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He he pitched to a pitched to a tune of 196 in his last seven
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games. That's what I'm saying, man.
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There's still something left in the tank.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. But Nate says he's all done
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after this year, so must not matter.
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My foot's not down yet. It's still open here.
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I'm on the fence. You're on the fence yeah yeah,
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for sure no, no, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.
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Speaking about being on the fence, the Red Sox love sitting
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on the fence. They won't commit it, I feel
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like to a rebuild or going all in.
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They're just like, yeah, let's, Let's patch together this puzzle
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with pieces from. I'm sensing unhappiness. 5 or 6
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different puzzles. Sensing frustration.
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No, like on paper I like the team, On paper I like Caleb
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Durbin. Seems like everybody else is
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more excited about this than I am.
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Not to say that I'm not. But I like Caleb Durbin.
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I like Caleb Durbin, but it's more about what we were
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expecting. And people can say, man, Red Sox
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fans are so spoiled. And sure, that may be true to to
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an extent. However, when you have a front
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office, I feel like the difference between the front
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office of a team like the Red Sox and a team and the front
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office of a team whose fans complain about Red Sox fans.
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Like you guys are so spoiled. You don't, you don't know what
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it's like to suck. It's like, no, your front office
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is just saying like, yeah, we're going to do what we can.
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Like, you know, we're we're going to roll out as as
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competitive A-Team as we can, even though you know in your
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heart of hearts that they don't mean anything.
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But with the Red Sox, historically, that has been the
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MO. Like we are going to pay like up
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there with the Yankees, up there with the Dodgers, Like we are
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going to spend the money. We're going to get the star
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player. If we say we're going to roll
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out a top three team in baseball, we're going to roll
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out a top three team in baseball, they've the difference
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is now they're talking that way, promising big bats, big arms
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while they're tiptoeing. They're not.
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They're not going all in. And it's really frustrating
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because it's like, stop talking as if you're going to make these
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big moves. And then you bring in a guy like
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Caleb Durbin when everybody was expecting the infielder that was
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going to be taking the field Opening Day was Alex Bregman.
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So, you know, I know if you look at the moves in their entirety,
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it's a different story. But it's just, it's, it's when
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you look at the fact that it was Raphael Devers as well as Alex
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Bregman, and now you're left with what?
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So that's why it's hard for me. It's why it's hard for me to to
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get super excited. But in a vacuum, I like the
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Caleb Durbin trade, six player trade with the Brewers for the
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Red Sox. They also sent into Milwaukee a
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guy that I think I mentioned an episode or two ago that I was
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looking forward to watching Kyle Harrison heading to Milwaukee as
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well as some other names there in the mix.
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But obviously the highlight here is Caleb Durbin.
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And so All in all, I'm here's the thing.
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I'm never going to be mad about having an athletic.
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High contact rate, manufacturing runs type of team.
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However, as I've sort of alluded to, the Red Sox don't have to be
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that team because they're the Boston Red Sox.
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It's like I don't, I shouldn't have to be satisfied with what's
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out there because there's no excuse, no reason as to why more
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money shouldn't be going out or more, more, more of an effort
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shouldn't be made in the trade market because this is not the
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roster that exists now. The lineup that exists now
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that's presumably set for opening day is not
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representative of the Boston organization, market and
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stature. Boom, sure, sure.
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I hear you. I I don't know what to make of
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them either. I was like they're I, I feel
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like I'm kind of nervous because I feel like they are going to
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have a, a, a solid team. I think this is a 90 win team
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easily. Pitching has definitely
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improved, which I'm excited about.
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But yeah, this historically has been a team.
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And not to cut you off, but this is historically has been a team
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that is one of the top offenses in baseball.
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And I just don't know that that's going to be the case this
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year, which really stinks, but. Yeah, I don't know, man.
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I mean, it's just, I get what you're saying because like when
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you look at that team on paper, you're like, yeah, I mean, it's
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it's going to be solid. But then you look at like how
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deep the AL East is, It's like that it's.
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It's hard to say that this offseason for the Red Sox is
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able to compete with a Blue Jays team, that it seems to be
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gaining momentum and making moves in a positive direction.
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I don't know, whatever the the Fenway group, FSG, aren't they
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working on a little something, something to mimic the battery
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isn't they've got like obviously there's there's streets that
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close during games and like you kind of already get that vibe
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around Fenway, but I think that there's like an active.
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They've got the, they've got The MGM Music Hall at Fenway and
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that's already there, I think I, yeah, I saw it when I was there.
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It's been there for a little while, I think, but yeah, 2022,
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So it's been there for a few years.
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I think that was one of, if not the first steps in that
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direction, to be quite honest with you.
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I, I, I'm not entirely sure, but I, I do know what you're
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referring to that I think there's something like that in
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play. However, it's just difficult
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with the the land, or lack thereof, that exists in that.
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I know there's like. In that proximity, I.
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Don't know what direction it is, but if you were to go like
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straight out right field and there's like some homes back
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there and stuff like those townhomes like.
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Yeah, it's, I mean, it's literally like people, I, I
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think people hear that and they're like, Oh yeah, sure.
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Like, yeah, it's like, no, it is literally dropped into the
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middle of a neighborhood. Yeah, it's just interesting.
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And like I know we talked about how they can and have operated
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like some of these other bigger markets, some of the biggest
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markets. And it's weird because this guy
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just went there like you know, Bregman that you just mentioned.
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But like, it kind of feels like the Cubs teeter the edge a
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little. You know, I mean, they kind of
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teeter totter back and forth between that like, hey, we're
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we're big market, we're Chicago. And then all of a sudden they
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kind of get budgetary in ways. Then then they get creative with
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their roster. And it seems to me like the Red
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Sox are starting to like slide into that category with the
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Cubs, You know, and that's what made me curious.
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You know, you talk about like some of these owners that are
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trying to change the environment around their stadium.
24:34
They're trying to create this, you know, spend the day here,
24:39
type. Thing and it just made me.
24:40
Wonder if like if the Fenway group was trying to do something
24:43
similar. Are they are they maybe pushing
24:48
that and trying to save a little bit where they can as far as
24:52
payroll goes? You do have a lot of
24:54
controllable names too. Like you have a lot of young
24:56
names that are that are controllable that are we're
24:59
going to be pretty good. I think it's.
25:02
Yeah, but look at the look at the track record of, of names
25:05
that were young and controllable and look where and, and stars
25:08
even and look, look where they're at now.
25:11
So it's like a guy like Roman Anthony, despite having an an
25:14
extension, it's like what? What assurance do you have that
25:20
he's actually going to be there? Yeah, that's true.
25:24
Doesn't really mean much around those parts.
25:27
That also finishes out the the Devers trade with Kyle Harrison
25:32
getting removed as well, right? I think so, which whatever, like
25:36
I, I'm, I don't, I don't care like at this point.
25:40
It is. I think you care a little bit.
25:41
I think you care a little. Bit no, I really don't like,
25:44
it's the same thing with the Mookie trade.
25:45
Like it was it, we were holding on to Connor Wong and people
25:48
were like, all right, we've got to wait for the last domino to
25:50
fall. It's like we're so far removed
25:52
now, and not that we're so far removed from the Devers trade.
25:55
But it's just like it sits so weird with me is that it's just
25:59
that quick of a turn around. We're talking less than a year.
26:02
That's that's what I'm saying. All of these names were moved
26:05
and it's like just a disastrous thing.
26:11
I, I, I know it's, it's obvious. I'm not saying anything new, but
26:15
it's it's got to be one of the worst trades of all time.
26:20
It was, we can safely say now that it was a salary issue.
26:26
It wasn't. It wasn't because everybody's
26:29
looking at that being like, oh, the return that you got for
26:32
Devers is out the door. It's like at this point we can
26:36
obviously look at that trade and go, this had nothing to do with
26:39
personnel. Did would they have wanted more
26:41
out of a guy like Jordan Hicks? Obviously.
26:46
Would it have been nice to see if Kyle Harrison could have
26:48
blossomed to something? It's like, sure, but Kyle
26:51
Harrison was served more value in a trade, so we shipped them
26:55
out. So it's we're not.
26:57
Act like they didn't mismanage the rushing of it because
27:02
there's no way the giants in those pieces were the only
27:08
return out there. But I think there were plenty of
27:11
other landing spots that could have brought back more desirable
27:15
pieces. They just, I felt like it was a
27:17
panic move and. It absolutely was.
27:21
It's hard to watch. But it it happened so I can you
27:24
can only really work with the pieces that you, you know, the
27:26
hand that gets dealt in return. And I'm looking at that going
27:29
well, the this hand didn't work out.
27:32
So let's flip things around, see what we can get.
27:35
And I just don't feel like the going back to the lineup for
27:39
opening day. I don't feel like what we're
27:41
going to roll out there. While it's a good team, it was
27:46
it was an under delivering after being over promised the the
27:50
moon. Basically, so tough stuff, guy,
27:59
tough stuff. You know what's tough is this
28:04
Andrew McCutcheon situation, further prompted by the Marcelo
28:13
Zuna signing who is heading to Pittsburgh on a one year, $12
28:17
million deal. Safe to assume that the Pirates
28:21
don't want Andrew McCutcheon patrolling Center for 162 games.
28:28
So I think we can safely say that this is the end of the
28:33
road, or maybe not safely, but it would be a safe bet, I guess.
28:39
I mean, maybe he comes back in like a a role player Cypress
28:45
scenario, but I don't think that he wants that.
28:48
I don't think the front office wants that and I don't think the
28:50
fans want that. I think it's, I think it's just
28:54
done. I think it's done and.
28:57
He's pissed too. I don't know if you've seen the
28:59
whole thing with like the socials.
29:01
His response is no. He well I put out this like hype
29:04
video which you may have seen. It was the one with like the NF
29:08
track to it. It's basically just kind of like
29:12
this, you know, showcasing of him putting in the work in the
29:16
offseason kind of thing. But even more than that, he I,
29:21
I, I can't, I don't know for certain, but I want to say that
29:26
his social profile pictures were him in Pirate's gear, you know,
29:34
like in his uni and all that. Apparently that has been that's
29:39
been swapped out for just like general.
29:41
I think it may have even been like a logo or something, but.
29:46
General may have even been in a logo.
29:49
General may have even been in a logo.
29:53
So yeah, he's he's not, he's not thrilled.
29:58
It doesn't seem that he's thrilled.
30:00
So. Was there?
30:03
This is a rough one to not have JB.
30:06
Is there. Were there talks?
30:10
Did they, did they stall? Was Mccutchen playing hard to
30:13
get? Was he not getting a call at
30:15
all? Pour one out for our guy JB.
30:19
Yeah, yeah, real tough one to not have him on, but honestly,
30:23
maybe a good thing because they, he's, he was getting, we, we
30:26
love JB, don't get me wrong, but he was getting really worked up
30:30
about the McCutcheon thing because rightfully so, he views
30:34
him our our guy. JB views him as a, as a
30:38
franchise legend and he is and he's earned that title.
30:42
However, what I won't hear is that he needs a farewell tour
30:50
season in 2026 because he's been with the Pirates for the last
30:56
three years. And every one of those years, I
31:02
feel like very well could have been his last year.
31:05
So it's like, what exactly did the pirates owe him other than
31:12
just being like, hey, man, we get this has got to be it.
31:15
This has got to be the last year.
31:16
Like we can't just keep dragging this out year, but year after
31:19
year. And people might say, like JB
31:21
might even say, well, that's disrespecting the franchise
31:25
legend. It's like, no, because he's he,
31:32
he obviously he's been around the franchise for many years,
31:36
but more recently is what I'm the point that I'm trying to
31:39
make is that he's been, he's been with the Pirates for the
31:40
last three years and it's been relatively abysmal.
31:46
So it's like. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't
31:49
think we give farewell tours to to non Hall of Famer locks.
31:56
And then I was just looking at the numbers and I don't think
31:58
he's a Hall of Famer. All very good.
32:01
Appreciate your service. Still can be a franchise legend,
32:05
can still be I. I agree, but.
32:10
Well, I think that's I think that's the angle.
32:12
I don't think I don't think people expect the entire league
32:15
necessarily to to give him this like pool host Miggy farewell
32:19
tour like we were talking about earlier.
32:22
I, I think, I think the term farewell tour as it applies to
32:26
Andrew McCutcheon just means relative to the team, like
32:31
giving, giving fans the year like one last chance to, to
32:36
relate or giving the fans one last season to celebrate Koch
32:40
and, and you know, all that he's done for the team.
32:41
I don't think it's the expectation is for it to be
32:44
league wide. And I feel like that's a fair, I
32:46
feel like that's a reasonable like a reasonable way to
32:50
approach this. But either way, whether it's
32:56
league wide or just team fan slash fan base specific, he like
33:03
how I don't I don't know what else to say.
33:07
Like how many, how many more seasons of this are we going to
33:09
do before it's like, OK, when Like when do when are we
33:13
wrapping up this chapter? Well, what I'm wondering is
33:15
that, like, if, if freaking JB, if a Pirates fan, like, would
33:22
they have been satisfied with that happening last year and it
33:29
just being done, You know, like, what is it?
33:34
Is it the Pirates fault for not taking more advantage of last
33:39
year and doing that and doing the giveaways and doing the, you
33:43
know, McCutcheon Knights and the, you know, bobbleheads and
33:48
the jerseys and all that kind of stuff?
33:50
Like, are we saying that the Pirates dropped the ball by not
33:56
doing that last year? Are we?
34:00
Like is there any blame on Kutch for saying not saying like hey
34:03
I'm done after this like. I think there's got to be some
34:07
like I, I, I'm a big fan of Kutch for sure.
34:10
But the more, the more that I look at this, the more I look at
34:13
it as numbers. I'm like, you can't be upset
34:17
with the team for kind of waffling on this because it's
34:22
like. It's punting.
34:24
It's punting on another spot in the outfield, it's punting on
34:32
kind of being competitive in that spot in the line up
34:35
everyday. Exactly.
34:36
And you're putting the team in a what I believe an unfair
34:40
position by looking at them, just staring at them with their
34:44
hands out to the side, being like, you're going to bring me
34:48
back after posting a 700 OPS last year in 135 games?
34:53
Like, what do you expect them to do?
34:57
I get it that he's a franchise legend and I I respect that.
35:01
And he's earned his rightful place in the the, you know, the
35:08
Pirates Hall of Fame, as it were, but it it doesn't justify
35:12
bringing him back for another year of what you can probably
35:16
imagine will be a sub 700 OPS season with minimal offensive
35:22
impact. I understand the leadership
35:23
element. I understand what he means to
35:26
those fans. But to your point about being
35:29
competitive and having guys on the team right now that I think
35:33
that whether or not the Pirates are serious about building
35:36
around schemes in the foreseeable future, you have
35:39
guys that could make an impact. And I just don't know how much
35:43
you're detracting from that by bringing Kutch back for another
35:46
year, given that he's he's done this quote UN quote farewell
35:50
thing for the last three. Years, I think they've had an OK
35:54
off season now the fit of Marce Luzuna it it's just I'll timed.
36:01
You know what I mean? It's just it's poorly timed in
36:04
the fact that like, I know I've seen the takes of like, you
36:07
know, you go from one of the most likeable guys in Kutch to
36:09
one of the least likeable guys in baseball.
36:14
Talk to me in in July when he's, you know, got 3030 bombs up and
36:21
is, you know, providing some protection in that lineup for
36:25
some other guys. Now, the configuration of this
36:28
lineup is a little interesting. A lot of DHS involved, but I
36:35
don't know, man. I mean they're they're they're
36:38
getting they're getting dudes who can hit, they're adding
36:41
pieces in the best way they can. And I I would say that bringing
36:48
touchback would maybe kind of damper the offseason and confuse
36:56
the the message moving forward. Like you said, they're like at
37:00
the very least, you can try to build around Paul Skeens.
37:05
Is he likely gone? Yes.
37:07
Does everyone see that in the wall?
37:09
Yes, but can you at least try and get creative and try and
37:16
show him that like, hey, we're going to do stuff.
37:19
It may take a little more time for our organization to build
37:21
around you, but we're going to try and do stuff.
37:23
And they did that by bringing in some names and and there's a lot
37:27
of young talent because obviously they've been in the
37:31
dumps for a while. I don't know, I, if I were a
37:37
Pirates fan, I would feel better and about the position we're in
37:41
right now than than last year. And for Kutch to sit here, you
37:45
know, for just sit here and say that Kutch not coming back
37:47
completely robs the entire offseason and any hope going
37:51
into next year. It's like, Nah, that's there's,
37:54
there's too much bias there and I don't know if I blame him.
37:59
No disrespect. No disrespect.
38:02
Well, Speaking of disrespect, now is the time to talk about
38:07
your guy, Paul Goldschmidt. What?
38:09
Tell me, tell me what to feel about this.
38:14
I mean, I, I, I guess I kind of get it that we're, we're
38:17
officially running last year's team back like it's fully
38:21
official. Is it like name for name?
38:24
Is it the same lineup I mean? Yeah, pretty much.
38:30
We got Caballero at the deadline.
38:32
He's going to be the shortstop opening day because both I don't
38:35
think will be ready. The subtraction of Devin
38:40
Williams, Luke Weaver from the bullpen and then Ryan Weathers
38:45
getting added to the rotation. Like outside of that, that's it.
38:48
Like it. Line up wise, yeah, like
38:51
starting nine, it's going to be name for name.
38:54
Yeah, post deadline, Yeah. McMahon at 3rd, Caballero at
38:57
short, Jazz at 2nd. It's crazy.
39:02
Goldie at first, Goldie at first splitting with Ben Rice.
39:06
I think Goldie's, they're going to platoon.
39:10
And I kind of get like, because Goldie's kind of a coach.
39:14
I don't know if you've seen him, like there's clips of him being
39:17
in dugouts, like coaching younger guys.
39:19
He kind of just fits that vibe. There's a little bit of that
39:23
going on in the WBC, if I recall, like early, early signs
39:28
of that. Start to develop.
39:29
Yeah, yeah, There's the one that there's the clip of him trying
39:32
to talk to Giancarlo Stanton and Stanton's just slamming water.
39:36
Like you can tell it's just. That too.
39:38
Yeah, yeah, not paying attention to that.
39:40
But Ben Rice doesn't know how to play first.
39:43
He doesn't. He can't play first base because
39:48
our organization keeps players in a position and doesn't expect
39:53
them to ever get to the big leagues and play another one and
39:55
then scrambles when they get there.
39:57
So they love to do that. But yeah, I mean, it's, I don't
40:01
know, like I, I was more broken up about him being on the on the
40:07
USA roster, in the Yankee roster.
40:09
I mean, because we're just stacked for the USA team and
40:13
Goldie's just like whatever. I mean, I, I get it, these
40:18
people probably going to come after me, but like he's.
40:21
It's the fall off is is pretty big man, though.
40:24
There's a real, real loss of power.
40:28
Pretty much only going to hit off the lefties.
40:31
Plays great defense. Can't argue that.
40:34
But yeah, we'll see. They're running back, dude.
40:40
They're running it back. If you had to give me right now,
40:46
I'm putting you on the spot. A little bit of a preview into a
40:49
little bit of a look ahead, maybe even to our our hot tags
40:53
predictions episode. You had to give me the top three
40:56
out of the East. I mean, it's like it, it's hard,
41:02
dude. Because like for me, I am
41:07
frustrated with the offseason because it's like we didn't get
41:10
over the hump and you could have done more, but then you and
41:14
you're like, but this same exact team won 94 games last year and
41:19
came down to the wire with the Blue Jays to win the division.
41:24
So, well, you so it's like I'm going to say, I'm going to
41:27
assume that you're putting the Jays.
41:29
I'm going to go Jays. At the top.
41:30
Yeah, Jays, Yanks in like, I'd probably say Red Sox just
41:36
because of the pitching over the Orioles.
41:41
Fair. I mean you you said earlier you
41:43
could see them being like a 90 win team, which I feel like is
41:46
that's yeah, I mean that's fair. And then you kind of slot the
41:49
Yankees in there in the middle. Yeah, that's kind of how I see
41:52
it. But I could also, I could also,
41:55
I could see that being flipped around in different ways too.
41:58
But those top three teams, I think, I don't know what order
42:01
it's in. If you had to tune in for How It
42:03
takes episode. Well, that's what I was asking.
42:04
I was asking for the order. Oh, you know the order Order.
42:08
Which is why I was probably that order, yeah, probably that
42:10
order. I could see it.
42:11
I could see it falling that way. Yeah, yeah, dude.
42:15
You have to TuneIn. Welcome back oldie.
42:17
I guess. Welcome back everybody.
42:20
Be super clutch for Team USA. That bears no impact on his
42:27
Yankees tenure this year. But just trying to look for the
42:31
positives I see, hey, that's all me.
42:34
Hey, that's all me. I'm I'm Pooh poohing your
42:36
efforts to try and find a positive out of this a silver
42:39
lining. I'm trying out of the
42:41
Goldschmidt. You know, credit to you.
42:43
I don't know that that's going to happen.
42:46
Truthfully, I don't know how many at bats he's even going to
42:48
get. In the WBC, but he'll he'll get
42:52
a clutch moment. I could see it.
42:55
I could see it against. It's fair.
43:02
Italy or whatever, whoever we're playing.
43:06
Yeah, well, hopefully we won't need a Klutzmann versus Italy,
43:10
but. Yeah, I know.
43:12
Well, that that's what I'm saying is it's like it's all
43:14
relative in a very unimportant game.
43:17
I can see them getting a lot of ABS when they're practicing
43:20
against the Giants in an exhibition game or the Rockies.
43:24
It's to answer your question, Italy, Great Britain, Mexico and
43:29
Brazil is the other team. Yeah, maybe you're Brazil.
43:38
They don't got, they don't got much going on.
43:41
Speaking of the WBC, a name that we thought was going to be in
43:45
the WBC but won't be for seems as though a multitude of
43:50
reasons. Francisco Lindor permission
43:56
reasons, insurance reasons, injury reasons.
44:01
He is going to be evaluated for a stress fracture.
44:06
It appears in his hamate bone. Hamate bone, Dude, what?
44:09
What's going on with the hamate bones all?
44:11
Right. I kind of want to look it up.
44:14
It's what is what? Where is it in the in the hand?
44:17
I think it's at the isn't it? Like at the bottom sort of below
44:22
the like fleshy part here on the on the base.
44:25
Am I? Am I misremembering?
44:27
I think I had a hamate issue when I played.
44:31
In college shows it like the right there.
44:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in this vicinity, Yeah,
44:39
Yeah, I think I had it. It's such a, it's a real what a
44:44
common issue in baseball, just cause of the the impact that
44:47
that spot takes. You had it on which which hand?
44:57
I honestly don't even remember it.
44:59
It wasn't. It wasn't.
45:01
Like a, it wasn't like a, it wasn't a fracture or anything,
45:03
but I just remember that that spot, that that spot takes a
45:06
beating. Like I'm, I'm not going to say
45:08
that I had to deal with what these guys are dealing with.
45:10
But it makes me feel like it's bottom hand.
45:13
Yeah. And it makes me wonder if like
45:16
because some guys have that knob right there, right?
45:19
Kind of hang down low on the knob.
45:22
That's how I was, yeah. Yeah, but he's a switch hitter,
45:28
so it's kind of hard to tell on Lindor.
45:30
True, but there's another handmade bone out there that's
45:33
been damaged. Which hand was it for Corbin
45:36
Carroll? A couple Corbin Carroll, Jackson
45:38
Holiday. I don't know if you saw that
45:39
Jackson holiday. Too.
45:41
Yep, Yep. So we got Lindor, Carroll,
45:44
Holiday, all with handmade bone issues.
45:47
Holiday is getting surgery. Lindor is going to be evaluated.
45:52
Corbin Carroll broke it will go undergo surgery.
45:55
Oh, that was today Wednesday. So another name WBC related
46:02
Corbin Carroll was supposed to be in the in in that tournament
46:05
will no longer be in the tournament and is questionable
46:08
for opening day as well. So this hey mate thing, man
46:12
making its way, you know, I was, I was just going to say sort of
46:21
like a little bug making its way around the league.
46:23
But hopefully, hopefully it, it stops for these guys, 'cause
46:26
you'd hate to see, 'cause that just seems like such a nagging,
46:31
like just an injury that even when you come back from it's,
46:35
it's one of those injuries I feel like, or, or surgeries even
46:38
that's going to sort of stick in the back of your mind where you
46:41
just don't feel quite at ease when you're up at the plate, you
46:44
know? It's crazy.
46:47
I wonder if there's like a like a protocol of like, I've been
46:55
feeling this all offseason, you know what I mean?
47:00
And then like the team just being like, well, get to camp
47:03
and we'll figure it out when you get here.
47:05
And then they do the tests and it's like, yeah, that's because
47:09
what, all three of them happening within a few days.
47:12
It's like, that's crazy. And I feel like that's maybe the
47:15
protocol, but I don't know. I don't, I don't know if that's
47:17
the right way to go about it. You know, what are the teams
47:21
doing? Why are they kicking the can
47:22
down the road? Why don't we seeing this back in
47:24
November? I don't know.
47:29
Well, I mean, it's, it's certainly case by case
47:31
situation, not all, not safe to say that not all of these
47:35
injuries are are popping up early enough to where it makes
47:39
too much of a difference. But to your point, that's that's
47:42
a broader conversation really, you know, to be had is some of
47:48
these injuries, not necessarily the handmade bones, but some of
47:50
these injuries. These guys know about it at the
47:54
end of the previous season. And then they roll into the they
47:57
they go, well, we're trying to rehab it.
47:59
And then you hear about, well, they're going to undergo season
48:01
ending surgery in mid February. And it's like feel like we could
48:06
have gotten ahead of this, but here we are.
48:10
Yeah, I. Don't get it.
48:13
Tough blow. Tough blow for Team USA.
48:18
Tough blow. I don't think Puerto Rico had
48:22
it, but Tupelo for the Mets. But what else is new?
48:27
Puerto Rico could have made a run.
48:28
Shout out Puerto Rico, I'll be there for the the coming days.
48:33
When you're listening to this. When you're listening to this, I
48:36
will literally be in Puerto Rico.
48:39
On the beach, it's. Hard to say.
48:42
You know they got a Costco down there.
48:44
Get out of here. Dead serious.
48:45
Yeah, I'm married. It's like we might, might hit up
48:47
Costco. We're going to have to stop at
48:48
Walmart. And.
48:49
Pick up some snacks I need reports on what that?
48:52
That's a great. That's a great point.
48:54
I hadn't even thought about exploring what the food court
48:56
situations. Are coming there I need.
49:00
To. What if there are shoestring hot
49:02
dogs in there? OK, let's let's not get ahead of
49:05
ourselves. Speaking of not getting ahead of
49:07
ourselves, how dare we think that Chris Bryant was going to
49:13
be ready for opening Day? My man can't catch a break.
49:19
Well, I mean, he, he's caught all, all sorts of, you know.
49:24
All done. Physical breaks, but he is he is
49:29
on the 60 day to start the year due to his quote chronically
49:33
bothersome Beck. Does he forfeit salary if he
49:39
retires or something? See like leave money on the
49:43
table? What are we doing?
49:45
He is. Higher and go have it's a 10
49:48
year anniversary for the Cubs. Go celebrate with your former
49:53
teammates. Have your moment in this in the
49:56
sunshine. Wave to the people and and just
50:01
disappear. That's Is that a threat?
50:06
Yeah. I'm going to have to bleep that
50:10
out. I don't want people knocking on
50:11
our doors. I got a text from the Montford
50:13
saying this is what needs to happen.
50:17
Oh, is, is that, is that what you got?
50:19
Is that what it says? Yeah, I'm all connected in
50:22
Colorado still. He oh, I believe it.
50:24
I believe it is it. They got a mafia out there.
50:27
Yeah, got a mafia is what they call it.
50:29
Oh yeah, no doubt, no doubt. To answer your question, he's
50:32
owed 78,000,000 over the next three seasons.
50:36
He has played 170 games since signing 182,000,007 year
50:43
contract before the 2022 season. I feel for them.
50:53
I feel for the Rockies. I mean, that's.
50:56
I mean, it's just a, it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough
51:00
situation. But at this point it's like you
51:03
can't, you can't bank on this guy for anything.
51:06
So it's like, yeah, it sucks for the Rockies, but them getting
51:11
this news should have come as no surprise to them.
51:14
And that's, again, it sucks for both parties involved, but it's
51:16
like, OK, yeah, sure. I mean, what what's what's new?
51:21
But dude, we've been doing this podcast a while and we have, we
51:27
have not talked about Kris Bryant really at all, if you
51:30
think about it like in the grand scheme of things.
51:33
Been a minute since he's been good, huh?
51:36
Just or even relevant? No disrespect but like he just
51:39
hasn't even been available for us to even talk about.
51:41
It's kind of weird given the way his career started out.
51:47
I can type. That'd be great.
51:51
OK, OK, let's see. The last closest thing he played
52:03
to a full season was 2021. Played 144 games between the
52:11
Giants and the Cubs. Since then.
52:17
It's been terrible, man. It's been bad.
52:22
Holy crap. Overall, I mean, this is just a
52:26
very unimpressive career when it comes down to it.
52:31
Sorry what a fall off 7.3 WAR in 2016.
52:39
Obviously 1 MVP. Just nothing since, man, it's
52:47
too bad. Few more injuries slash
52:55
surgeries to make note of. Anthony Santander will undergo
52:58
or I guess he already underwent surgery this week.
53:02
He undergone he undergone surgery to repair the labrum in
53:07
his left shoulder. He'll be out what they're
53:10
estimating to be 5 to 6 months. Spencer Schwellenbach for the
53:15
Braves expected to miss significant time.
53:18
They don't know the timetable for when he's going to be back
53:24
but they think based on what I was reading they they think he
53:28
avoided a serious UCL injury situation so.
53:33
They cannot catch a break, dude. They.
53:36
Cannot. Yeah, that's a tough, that's a
53:42
tough blow for a rotation. That's a wrong blow of the wind
53:46
away from utter collapse. Yeah.
53:50
Just personnel wise, injury history wise, just not a good.
53:54
You think it's like the 49ers. You think they just have like a
53:57
a electric magnetic pulses running through their field
54:05
messing with them? I heard about that.
54:07
That's crazy. The fact that, OK, the scariest
54:10
thing about that whole 49ers thing is the fact that they said
54:13
that they would look into it like if there was nothing to be
54:16
concerned about, they'd be like, you all are crazy.
54:18
Like, put the take the tinfoil hats off.
54:20
They're like, yeah, you know, we'll, we'll do our due
54:23
diligence. It's like, you know something.
54:26
Yeah, dude, you know it's growing over there.
54:29
That's crazy. Wow.
54:34
Don't know if that's the, I hope it's not the case for Atlanta
54:36
because we were just there and we're, I mean, we're there for a
54:41
good. Just breathe better.
54:43
Part of a week, yeah, So hopefully nothing crazy there.
54:46
So if. You breathe it in.
54:47
Do you probably not just absorb it?
54:50
Just absorb it. You just feel it.
54:53
Your body just kind of takes it, you know?
55:00
Just like static electricity. I guess I don't know how these
55:04
things are. I mean, what up up here where
55:07
I'm at, it's data center central.
55:10
So I'm actively shaving years off of my life so.
55:15
Radioactively. Oh, you could be a superhero
55:20
eventually. Yeah, maybe it takes, you know,
55:24
at the fork in the road where the left is, you know, deaf.
55:28
Maybe the right is. I end up being a superhero.
55:31
Who's to say? The only one way to find out
55:33
what would you do? What would you want to be?
55:41
I've always been fascinated by the, the sort of, well, I guess
55:50
to, to boil it down, simply the the whole invisibility element.
55:53
I think I feel like that's kind of cool.
55:55
Sure, I'm going to take teleportation, all right.
55:58
That's it's a no brainer. I mean, if I could combine the
56:02
two, that'd be, that'd be top shelf.
56:03
Maybe that's something that would would be worth
56:09
considering, you know, if they want to take a movie and run
56:11
with that. I mean, how many, how many
56:14
superheroes do they have like doubling down on?
56:16
Yeah, why don't they get more than one?
56:18
Skill sets, you know. I don't.
56:19
I'm out on Superman, by the way. He's got too much.
56:23
There's a there's a balance. You can't have everything.
56:28
Well, that's why he's Superman. Yeah, out on that.
56:32
I think that's the entire. I think that's why I like Batman
56:37
Found. They literally got nothing, just
56:38
some money. Iron Man's my guy.
56:41
Iron Man big same thing. Arguably same thing.
56:44
He's just got some money. Just.
56:45
Got money? Yeah.
56:49
Big respect. These guys, however, are not
56:51
Iron Man because, you know, for obvious reasons, as we've
56:54
already talked about. And lastly here, Rhys Olson will
56:57
miss the 2026 season after a right shoulder procedure.
57:03
Or we just we were just talking about him too.
57:07
Yeah, another name that I feel like I I was, I was really
57:09
excited about, but he will be, he'll be out for this season.
57:13
But we already talked about the what the Tigers rotation looks
57:15
like. I think they'll be OK on that.
57:17
Front. That was the reason for the
57:18
Verlander reunion. Yeah, I, well, I mean, what I
57:23
was reading is they they said that might have been part of the
57:25
reason they contributed to, you know, the Framber thing, the
57:28
Verlander thing, that that whole deal.
57:30
So because you something like this, I'm sure you've you would
57:33
have known about Yeah, so and I think his surgery was like
57:41
early, early February. So they yeah, for like February
57:43
2nd, I think so. Aren't you for you personally,
57:49
just like, aren't you just kind of waiting for the ball to drop
57:51
on somebody at some point during the spring training?
57:54
You're like, is our season just going to get freaking topsy
57:59
turvy at some point? Yeah.
58:02
It's with every team. Yeah, I know.
58:04
Nobody, no team is immune to a a spring training bomb dropping
58:10
because we see it all the time. I hate it.
58:18
Speaking of dropping, do you see the giveaway that the Rangers
58:21
dropped? Me gusta, me gusta.
58:26
Very creative. I like that.
58:28
I had to put out of my mind the, the, the creeping thought that
58:33
that was in the back of my mind of being like, this is kind of
58:36
weird. Like if you just look at it
58:38
objectively, it's kind of weird and it's a little weird.
58:41
I really, I just had to channel the inner Nolan Ryan fan right
58:44
here. I mean, this, this is the right
58:46
there. That's that's the that's the
58:47
picture right there behind me. Go watch on YouTube.
58:50
Shout out YouTube. Yeah, please do also go go
58:56
follow a show on YouTube just please.
58:57
And while you're there, just hit the subscribe button.
58:59
Honestly, if you're into watching podcasts on YouTube,
59:04
just add us to your list. Add us to your collection.
59:07
Just come hang out with the boys, especially when JB is
59:09
here. JBJB you.
59:10
Think we just put these these stupid all this crap on our
59:14
walls for for audio, no. No, we're we're trying to
59:17
showcase our our collection that we've built out over the years.
59:22
Any who's the. If you don't know what we're
59:24
talking about, the Rangers announced that this May, yeah,
59:29
May 29th, the Rangers will be giving away throwback Rangers
59:33
jerseys that feature. It's like a replica of the
59:38
bloody jersey that Nolan Ryan donned after a comeback from Bo
59:43
Jackson. A lot of people think, and I
59:46
admittedly. It's the Robin Ventura.
59:48
Fight Admittedly, I had to be reminded of that myself, 'cause
59:51
I think you just see that and you're like, oh, Nolan Ryan just
59:54
throwing hands. No, it was a comebacker from
59:57
Noah, none other than Bo Jackson.
59:59
A lot of people forget that, but people are like, wouldn't it
1:00:03
make more sense to give it away versus the White Sox instead of
1:00:05
the whoever they're giving it away?
1:00:09
The I don't know who they're giving away against, but but
1:00:12
yeah, people are like, no, it's it has nothing to do with Robin
1:00:16
Ventura. So anyway, pretty pretty.
1:00:19
Sick. Was he a White Sox at that time?
1:00:23
Royal. He was royal at that time.
1:00:25
Yeah, but yeah, super sick giveaway would definitely get
1:00:30
one if I I would definitely go to that game if I was in Texas,
1:00:34
but I'm obviously not, so I can't.
1:00:37
But that would be one. That'd be.
1:00:39
I'm not one of those people that is like, oh, I got to make it to
1:00:42
the park for this giveaway. It's like if I miss it, I miss
1:00:44
it. But like if I'm there, cool.
1:00:45
Like whatever. Like if I catch a catch a bobble
1:00:47
head day, awesome. But I'm definitely not going out
1:00:50
of my way for a particular giveaway.
1:00:54
I mean, it would really have to just blow my socks off.
1:00:57
You know, this, this could be one of them.
1:01:00
This is rather unique. And I'm most certainly putting a
1:01:04
bow on that point. I'm most certainly not buying
1:01:07
these things off of eBay 'cause I know, and no disrespect to
1:01:09
people that do that. I get, I get it.
1:01:11
If you really want something and you're like, well, I can't
1:01:13
'cause I'm at, I don't live in that city, I get it.
1:01:16
But people, people mark those things up like crazy on eBay,
1:01:21
like the eBay or the the bobble head market on eBay.
1:01:26
Insane. I'm like, I'm not spending 150.
1:01:28
Is it the mob? Yeah, probably.
1:01:30
It's like I don't want to spend $150.00 to $200 on a bobble
1:01:34
head, but that's just me. Mobble head, mobble.
1:01:38
Moving on, man. A mob Getting a couple
1:01:41
references tonight. How about that?
1:01:44
Keep it on the deal moving forward.
1:01:46
Yeah, I probably shouldn't talk about that or we'll have a
1:01:51
horse's head in our bed. Isn't that the Andy Andy Dwark
1:01:56
line? Yeah, isn't that what he says?
1:02:01
I'm trying to remember exactly what he says, but it's Oh yeah,
1:02:04
I think it is. He's like something, yeah,
1:02:06
something with the mob. He's like or you'll wake up with
1:02:08
a dead or a. Dead.
1:02:11
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The insurance guy where they go
1:02:14
to lunch. Sorry, what?
1:02:24
If it's not on the side, I bring it back or I'll send it back.
1:02:28
Great episode. Speaking of jerseys the Marlins
1:02:33
announced that they're wearing, They're bringing teal back.
1:02:37
Big fan of these. Not their first, you know,
1:02:41
dipping of the toe per SE in the teal game like we we've seen
1:02:46
them bring back in recent years. The what is it?
1:02:49
It's the, the whites with the black pinstripes, right?
1:02:53
With the teal hats. You know what I'm talking about.
1:02:57
I think so. Were those those weren't the
1:02:59
vests, were they? Not this, no, not this most
1:03:04
recent version, but I think that was within the last like a year
1:03:07
or two they brought that back. But now they're officially
1:03:10
bringing the teal back, and I think they're going to be
1:03:12
wearing that on Sundays this year.
1:03:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that's clean.
1:03:21
Yeah. Big fan.
1:03:24
I love when a team listen, like ask their fans what they want.
1:03:28
The fans like, hey, we want this and Marlins fan case.
1:03:33
They said we want the teal uniforms back and they go out
1:03:36
and do it. Just all other 29 Major League
1:03:40
Baseball teams learn from the Marlins.
1:03:42
Come on, be better. Yeah, love that.
1:03:45
Honestly, just go back, change, Change it all.
1:03:54
Change it all the way back to the Florida Marlins.
1:03:58
I'm I'm so behind that just. To get it all back.
1:04:02
What are we waiting for? We can pretend like it never
1:04:05
happened. Pretend it never happened.
1:04:06
We'll close our eyes. We'll be we'll be respectful.
1:04:09
We'll we won't be rude. We won't pry.
1:04:11
Just we'll close our eyes. You all do what you need to do
1:04:15
and get things right again. Let's get this back to the
1:04:20
Florida Marlins. Isn't doesn't Jeff Conine's son
1:04:27
play for them? Yeah, Griffin, he was a Duke
1:04:30
guy. He was there when I was working
1:04:31
there. I like that man.
1:04:34
I could get Conine back in the teal.
1:04:37
Well, actually low key didn't he get?
1:04:42
Did he get popped? Now we're in college.
1:04:48
No post post draft. I swear he got popped.
1:04:53
Maybe I'm thinking of, maybe I'm thinking of his dad.
1:04:55
He said Griffin, Yeah, no disrespect.
1:04:59
I don't like that first name. Yeah, he tested positive back in
1:05:02
18. Yeah, well, still a good kid.
1:05:10
Quote, careless decision. I mean, whatever, he's still a
1:05:13
good kid. Did Jeff Conine ever get?
1:05:16
Popped. I thought he did.
1:05:17
Or he was at least suspected of it, wasn't he?
1:05:20
Come on. I like Jeff Conine was an Oriole
1:05:26
back in the day. Any who's you see the new hats,
1:05:33
see the spring training hats. Yeah, I wanted to round out with
1:05:37
that spring training hats, You know, I'm not, I'm not going to
1:05:43
complain about them. Like, do I think they do?
1:05:46
I think they're like the greatest spring training hats
1:05:48
ever? No, but am I, am I going to
1:05:53
complain about spring training hats in 2026?
1:05:56
Also No, like, I get it. It's just a money grab there.
1:06:00
No matter what these, these teams this league tries to sell
1:06:04
you like, oh, we're just trying to, you know, improve branding.
1:06:08
We're trying to improve the experience for fans at the
1:06:12
spring training ballparks. No, just a money grab.
1:06:17
It's easy to it's easy to to have a money grab when you
1:06:20
change the design every single spring.
1:06:24
But that's not that's not ground breaking.
1:06:26
So yeah, I mean, it's cool, though it's different.
1:06:32
It's different. I I can appreciate it.
1:06:34
At first I thought the other sticker on the bill was like
1:06:39
another design. You see the like the normal
1:06:41
sticker that's like the circular one in the middle.
1:06:44
There's like another sticker over like.
1:06:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was a part of the
1:06:48
design when it first came out, No, Yeah, please don't touch the
1:06:51
bill, honestly. OK, he.
1:06:55
I kind of like him. Yeah, OK.
1:06:58
Honestly, when I was saying all those things, I said I didn't
1:07:00
have the I'd I'd seen the pictures earlier today, but now
1:07:04
that I'm looking at him again, I'm kind of a fan.
1:07:07
I mean, it's, it's, it's on, it's non traditional, it's
1:07:17
unorthodox. That's the word I was looking
1:07:18
for. But you know, it's in a day and
1:07:23
age. And then there's unorthodox in a
1:07:25
day and age where my hat collection grows by the day.
1:07:28
It's my threshold for disliking hats just shrinks almost by the
1:07:37
minute. Like I, I just love hats.
1:07:39
So the more that I look at these to to sort of go back on what I
1:07:43
was saying earlier, I the more I look at them, the more I like.
1:07:46
Them the A's one is kind of sick.
1:07:50
A's one is sick. Just pops with the yellow.
1:07:54
A's one is sick. The yeah, the Padres.
1:07:58
I was going to say the Padres, but that it's also that yellow
1:08:01
pops a little bit. I like that Rockies.
1:08:03
White Sox isn't bad. Yeah, White Sox looks good.
1:08:07
Rockies pretty solid. Yeah, man, I like them.
1:08:14
I like them a little more and more, but any who's Lastly here,
1:08:21
we'll finish up with Murray's Question of the Week.
1:08:26
Murray's Question of the Week. Murray's question of the week is
1:08:31
from this point on you can't eat your favorite home cooked meal
1:08:35
AKA from mom, dad, wife, grandparents, etcetera.
1:08:39
But your favorite team will win at least 10 more World Series in
1:08:45
your lifetime. Are you taking it a million
1:08:48
percent? Wow, a million.
1:08:51
Percent. Full 100% disrespect to Mama
1:08:55
Reyes. No question about it.
1:09:01
No question about it. I don't have the heart to say
1:09:04
that though. I have.
1:09:08
She would understand. She would understand.
1:09:12
Now here's the thing. I.
1:09:13
Would like to think mine would too, but I just don't have the
1:09:16
hard to. Say it, I guess it is home
1:09:19
cooked meal because like for me, I cook at home, my home I do the
1:09:24
cooking. Yeah, so you, you can pass,
1:09:28
you'll pass on your cooking if it means 10 World Series, but.
1:09:31
Yeah, yeah. But the rest of the fam though,
1:09:37
any, any like family favorites that you've grown up on, you're
1:09:41
just saying no to for the rest of your life?
1:09:44
Yes I would do it for multiple meals.
1:09:48
I would do you could pick out every family member and I would
1:09:53
I would cross off their top for 10.
1:09:56
Dubs, that's cold. Yes, that's fair.
1:10:01
I mean that is yes, I feel like that's an unfair number to set
1:10:04
it at. I mean, like, that's a lot of
1:10:06
world. Series.
1:10:08
I would have done it for three. I would have done it for three
1:10:11
rings. That's fair.
1:10:15
Yeah. I mean, who knows?
1:10:15
Who's to say how much time I've got left with these data centers
1:10:18
up here? I mean, that's right, that's
1:10:20
right. I need to see one soon again
1:10:22
before before it's too late. Yeah, they'll take advantage of
1:10:26
it. You know, that's, I mean, what
1:10:31
are the meals? What are what meal are you
1:10:33
saying goodbye to? Honestly, I hadn't even gotten
1:10:37
to that part of the the thought process.
1:10:39
The next level it was. I think I, I immediately was
1:10:43
just like, I don't know if I could just be like, no, I'm
1:10:47
turning down my favorite home cooked meal from, from mom or
1:10:51
from, from the wife, you know? Yeah.
1:10:56
What do you have a favorite that Meredith makes?
1:11:01
There's a few, I mean, my mom, you got it.
1:11:07
Well, you got to remember mom's from she's from Southwest
1:11:11
Pennsylvania. So, and I'm sure we've talked
1:11:13
about this at one point or another on here, but.
1:11:15
It's casserole. Heavy on the casseroles, the
1:11:18
butter, the salt, the dairy. That's what I that's pretty much
1:11:22
what I grew up on. So I'm, I'm, I'm thick boned.
1:11:25
Yeah, there's, there's no, there's no lack of of meat on
1:11:29
the bones. Here big time.
1:11:31
So it's probably like AI love a good beef stroganoff and people
1:11:37
are going to be like, are you insane?
1:11:39
Love beef, But that's a good that's that's one of my
1:11:42
favourites from mom for sure. That's that's just off the top
1:11:46
of the Dome. I'm sure if I thought about it I
1:11:47
could come up with a much longer list, both for her and for.
1:11:51
But see, I wonder, I'd have to say goodbye to my mom's chicken
1:11:57
tetrazzini. I'd have to say goodbye to that
1:12:00
one. And that's a tough one to say
1:12:01
goodbye to. I don't even know what a
1:12:03
tetrazzini is, but sounds good. It's great.
1:12:06
It's great. Zini, that sounds like a pasta.
1:12:08
Is that a pasta? Yeah, it's like a, it's like a,
1:12:14
it's like if it's like a love child between Mac and cheese and
1:12:19
spaghetti. No, not.
1:12:21
Not all those ingredients together.
1:12:23
Beef tetrazzini, no. No, no.
1:12:25
Chicken. Chicken.
1:12:26
Oh. Chicken Tetrazzini.
1:12:28
Chicken tetrazzini and and you bake it.
1:12:32
This is kind of like you bake it like a lasagna.
1:12:34
Oh. Weird I I thought this was like
1:12:36
a red a red sauce meal. This is not a red sauce meal.
1:12:39
No, it's like cheese and and chicken and it's done with like
1:12:42
spaghetti noodles. Slaps.
1:12:45
It slaps. That's a tough but I mean, yeah,
1:12:47
see ya. Adios.
1:12:50
Well, how did you drive through cold man?
1:12:54
Cold. Sorry, Ma, if it was my that's
1:12:57
where it was the struggle for me because I'm the one that does
1:13:00
the home cooking and if my, I mean my favorite home, I'm like
1:13:04
have to say goodbye to my own steaks for the rest of my life.
1:13:08
Now that's a harder conversation.
1:13:10
Thinking awfully high of your own steaks, but.
1:13:15
Well, that's my favorite home cooked meal that I make and I'm
1:13:18
the one that cook it. I cook at my home so.
1:13:21
No, I'm not. Look, I'm not dispute.
1:13:23
I'm not. I'm not disputing that they're
1:13:24
good. You, by the way, haven't made me
1:13:26
one of these steaks yet, and I find that.
1:13:28
Kind of offensive I got you find that kind of offensive Look,
1:13:32
she's not going to hear this, but like, you know, I have no
1:13:34
problem saying goodbye to Paige's boxed Mac and cheese,
1:13:39
you know that can. I think that's, I think Kraft
1:13:44
owns that. I don't please.
1:13:45
Give an out me on that by the way, because she has stepped up
1:13:48
her game. Hey, I respect the effort.
1:13:50
She's a great sous chef. She's a great sous chef.
1:13:53
Head chef is just not there yet. It's fair, but.
1:13:57
In fact, I might be going home to a meal here in a SEC that I'm
1:14:02
really curious. Actually, it's probably an air
1:14:05
fryer or something. Hey, watch out for those micro
1:14:08
plastics. Let's Yeah.
1:14:11
Have you heard about this? It's a whole big.
1:14:13
Metal. It's all metal.
1:14:15
It's the next, it's the new, it's the latest thing that
1:14:18
apparently is going to kill us all.
1:14:19
You just can't do anything anymore, man.
1:14:22
You can't. You can't.
1:14:23
But you know what you can do? You can go to the shop, check
1:14:26
out the new merch that dropped three O tank.com/shop.
1:14:33
That's THREE OHTA ke.com/shop. Dot COM.
1:14:43
Dot COM forward slash shop you just type in the three O take on
1:14:47
Google. TTPS Hey, did you know?
1:14:50
Did you know we show up on the the Google AI thing?
1:14:57
We as in the pod. Did it.
1:15:00
It shows up. You just put in three O take
1:15:03
into Google. It'll show up as like the top
1:15:06
thing in in AI and it like it gives it like a breakdown.
1:15:09
There's like bullet points and it's like kind of creepy.
1:15:13
It's like it all started with Kyle's blog back in 2016 or
1:15:16
something like. Shout out to the about page on
1:15:18
the website. It Yeah.
1:15:23
Hey, shout out to AI for for leading me to my next point.
1:15:26
It says as of February 2026, they launched A Patreon.
1:15:30
It offering exclusive bonus content, which was my next
1:15:34
point. Check out the shop and check out
1:15:36
our Patreon just launched. That was that last week.
1:15:41
Go check out the Patreon we're going to be dropping.
1:15:43
If you if you missed the news, you're going to be dropping
1:15:45
bonus episode like change UPS on there where we're just talking
1:15:48
all things, not baseball really to your I think you said it
1:15:52
best. It's really like our well, maybe
1:15:55
sadly, our best content. I think it's where we really
1:15:58
shine. So this is OK, alright, we we
1:16:03
enjoy this. We love baseball, but we really
1:16:05
love food and talking about. Pet peeves.
1:16:10
More food and pet peeves. Mostly food.
1:16:13
Mostly food and most and more food.
1:16:16
But yeah, check out the Patreon. There'll be things popping up as
1:16:20
the as the year goes goes along. But for a cup of coffee every
1:16:25
month, you can. You can support your boys and
1:16:29
you get some good, you get some good content out of it.
1:16:31
That's it. Simple as that.
1:16:34
And that's. A small cup of coffee, by the
1:16:35
way. Small.
1:16:36
It's a small cup. As we talked about in this
1:16:38
economy, yeah, that's all I got, man.
1:16:42
This was a this was a a packed pod.
1:16:46
A lot in there creeping towards it, man.
1:16:48
We're creeping towards it, creeping towards that Hot Takes
1:16:52
episode. Now it's going to be.
1:16:54
If all things align, if the stars align, if everything falls
1:16:58
into place the way it should, that's episode 6 hundo.
1:17:02
We got a We should cook up a little celebration for that.
1:17:05
It's a big deal. Especially JB in the corner.
1:17:08
We we'll have we'll have fun with that.
1:17:10
Yeah, we'll have the loop Inman of the mix this year.
1:17:12
That could be a a four hour episode.
1:17:14
That's very possible. I'm I'm prepared, I'm I'm here
1:17:18
for it. It's.
1:17:19
Fine with me. All right, Cool.
1:17:24
Head on out. Go get your go get your Mac and
1:17:27
cheese. I think it's an air fryer thing
1:17:30
or or or something with lettuce. We she decided that we needed,
1:17:36
you know, the, the, the long, what's the long lettuce?
1:17:41
It's not the ball. Yeah, not the head, it's the
1:17:44
long stalks kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, kind of like those,
1:17:47
right? We went to Costco the other day,
1:17:48
by the way. Oh boy, what about?
1:17:53
We just, we just spent, we, we just spent too much money there.
1:17:59
So much money. This is from Costco.
1:18:02
You don't go into Costco telling Costco what you need, do you?
1:18:05
Let Costco tell you what. Costco you need Costco tells you
1:18:09
manhandled me. All right, what do you what did
1:18:12
you get at Costco or lettuce or stocks?
1:18:17
Or all the lettuce things. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:18
It was like a it was like a six pack of those for 4 bucks.
1:18:23
She's like, we'll have salads and I'm like, what?
1:18:27
For a month? Like what do you mean we had to
1:18:29
give them away? Dude, the greens go not at
1:18:33
Costco, just in general, the greens go quick.
1:18:35
It's like, Oh yeah, we'll have salads every night this week and
1:18:37
then by like Night 3, it's like, I think these are going bad.
1:18:40
Dude, I know and I panicked because it was freezing in
1:18:43
there, you know that cold the. Oh.
1:18:45
Yeah, the fridge section, the get the fridge, Get Me Out of
1:18:48
here. I don't care what we get, Get Me
1:18:49
Out of here stressed anyway. So it's probably that with like
1:18:54
salmon or something. That sucks.
1:18:56
Hey yo, don't sleep on the salmon I love.
1:18:59
I love a good salmon that's like the one meal I contribute to our
1:19:02
our regular rhythm for dinner. But.
1:19:06
The air fryer Salmon. No, no.
1:19:08
Are you out on the air fryer? By the way, it's like.
1:19:11
Are you saying? You're done.
1:19:12
I'm just saying be mindful of it.
1:19:13
I'm just trying to, it's a little PSA.
1:19:17
I'm not out on the air fryer, I mean.
1:19:18
Public service announcement, yeah, but.
1:19:22
No, I, I'll, I'll skillet up a a nice little salmon bacon.
1:19:27
I actually, I take it back. I'm not even I'm not doing the
1:19:29
skillet anymore with salmon. We've we've baked our last two
1:19:32
salmon dinners way better. Way better.
1:19:37
Really. But yeah, keep out, keep an eye
1:19:39
out for those air fryers, but that's all I got.
1:19:42
Good stuff. I'll go chasing curve balls.
1:19:44
Le'veon is always looking forward to talking more baseball
1:19:46
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.