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The Locker Room Stories We’re Finally Telling | Bare Knuckle Nation Ep. 2 · Bare Knuckle Nation Podcast

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  This is Bare Knuckle Nation. Let's go.
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  This episode of Bare Knuckle Nation is
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  brought to you by Spas and More. They
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  put the Ah in spa.
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  Hey guys, welcome to Bare Knuckle
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  Nation. Let's go. Cam Jansen, Reed Low,
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  Jamie Rivers, Tony Twist, Jim Subie
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  Campbell right here. We're doing our
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  thing. Episode number two, by the way.
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  Look at this.
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  >> Ron Burgundy always
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  doo brown to Ron Berg.
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  >> Dang, you look good.
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  >> Do you have that dry cleaner? Just
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  vacuum it.
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  >> Both. Both. Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> Working on a sweatuit sponsor.
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  >> Send an email.
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  >> If you get the sponsor of that,
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  >> can I ask if you get a protein stain on
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  it? How do you get that out?
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  >> Oh, just scrub that.
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  >> Deep stain.
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  >> That's like early 2000s. Ed that.
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  >> How much sweat do you think by the end
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  of this show is underneath that
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  tracksuit?
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  >> He doesn't sweat much.
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  >> Soup doesn't sweat much.
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  >> Gay don't sweat.
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  >> No.
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  >> I came in
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  >> What? I
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  >> I came in at - 55 in the car. Air
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  conditioning full tilt.
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  >> If Cam or Twister was in that suit,
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  >> there'd be 14 lbs of water and I are bad
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  about you know the funny thing is it's a
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  one piece.
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  >> It's a one piece. Jump in. Jump out.
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  He's like he's full.
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  >> He's like the set it and forget it guy
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  in the old blue suit.
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  >> I wish he had like that.
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  >> If he had a belt, it would be
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  >> have a belt.
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  >> I got a I got a championship belt at
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  home. I'll bring it in for you. You can
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  wear it next.
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  >> It is a one piece though. How do you pee
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  in that?
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  >> He just goes,
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  >> "Is it a one piece?"
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  >> I'll lift my leg up.
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  >> It's not a one piece.
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  >> Wait, that's what we're talking about.
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  >> Sorry. How you doing? Get there.
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  >> We're just bullshitting. I think this
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  episode we're just going to talk about
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  what we got going on. All the guys, man,
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  we all been through so many different
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  things and hockey and all that stuff. We
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  told stories before, but I think today,
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  let's get into what we got going
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  currently. Like, what do you got going?
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  I was looking at Jamie. Anytime Jamie's
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  at the Lake of Ozarks, I'm wondering if
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  he's going to have that back end speedo.
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  >> Yeah, baby.
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  >> I'm like, is it coming? Is it coming? It
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  didn't come. Did you guys have a good
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  time now? Where you got going,
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  >> James? I love going to the lake whenever
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  we can. obviously grew up on the lake in
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  Canada and it's a little different. Lake
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  up up north was a lot more private,
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  secluded,
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  >> cleaner,
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  >> a little more rural. It wasn't quite the
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  same atmosphere, but but we love going
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  to the lake. Um,
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  >> we have a good time. We try to once a
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  year get the whole family up there and
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  it's growing because now everybody's
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  older. They got their plus one, their
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  boyfriend, girlfriend. So, we have like
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  12 or 13 people. A good buddy of ours,
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  Mark Beckham. Uh, he's him and his his
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  lovely bride, Jane.
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  >> Does he play soccer?
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  >> No, no, no. that's his brother. Um, so
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  he uh
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  >> maybe his cousin
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  >> he's gracious enough to open up the
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  doors and welcome us in and whatnot and
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  we love we have a great time and yeah,
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  you never know when a speedo might make
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  an appearance.
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  >> I was conceived down there according to
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  my parents which is disgusting to think
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  about. But yeah, we understandable.
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  That's horrible. My dad told me that all
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  the time but I
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  anytime anybody
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  Well, yeah, I got a we grew up down
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  there too so it's pretty cool. So,
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  speaking of Party Cove, did you get
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  suits for the whole family now? Because
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  I know you were going out in the boat at
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  at the cove and you had the EPA suits,
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  the white and you had the gas mask on.
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  You're testing the water, shaking your
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  head, and people are coming. Were you
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  doing that?
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  >> Standard procedure.
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  >> So, the whole the whole family, you got
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  everybody's doing the EPA. Yeah.
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  >> Coming with the white suits, got the gas
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  mask on, just shaking your head, doing
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  the adjustments.
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  >> Safety first. Twist. I like
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  >> We go the opposite way.
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  >> We try to build immunity.
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  >> My garage. in my garage.
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  >> What's your garage? Wait, I've been to
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  your garage. It
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  >> It's a You have
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  >> It's everything.
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  >> It's everything. I mean, I I was making
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  a a small robot and a nuclear missile,
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  but I I quit doing that because I got
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  caught. So,
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  >> yeah, the robot's still active.
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  >> Yeah, she's she's doing good.
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  >> If you went to his garage, just so
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  everybody knows, like there's a million
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  different parts. He's doing different
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  stuff.
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  >> He's spread out into the woods now. How
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  many out in the woods?
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  >> How many motorcycles are in there?
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  >> No, I I do a bunch of artwork and I
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  haven't had much chance to do it lately.
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  So, I I do a bunch of stuff with glass
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  and the weld and some metal work and you
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  know then actually doing some uh some
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  silicone masks and stuff. I think you
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  might have seen a couple of those.
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  >> Tony time.
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  >> Yeah. I mean, absolutely. You know, um
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  it's it's fun. You I myself
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  >> silicone masks make their way into you
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  know
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  >> Oh, they have. Yes, they made it. Myers.
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  >> I'm I'm I'm going to make I'll make a
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  couple for these shows. Don't worry.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> You may have seen a couple on TV. I got
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  rid of those ones, though.
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  >> You burned them.
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  >> I did.
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  >> Yes. They melt. Well,
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  >> are you still riding?
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  >> Uh what bikes?
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  >> Oh, no. No. I haven't I haven't I
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  haven't ridden a bike for a while.
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  >> I haven't ridden a motorcycle for a
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  while.
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  >> You can't ask a serious question on this
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  podcast cuz you are not getting
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  >> I've got two that have been sitting in
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  the driveway for two years. I mean,
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  If you really go to his house and
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  interesting, he's doing all kinds of
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  crazy stuff.
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  >> Okay, so when you when you drive in the
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  house, I got a I got a fullsize
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  Sasquatch that's in the front
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  >> and and very well-haired, by the way.
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  >> And then if you go a little farther
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  down, you got a dinosaur T-Rex who's
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  like 12, 13t tall. And I
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  >> glow in the dark, too.
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  >> He's glow-in-the-dark. And I painted
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  him. And I got I wrapped him so he looks
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  like his skin's coming off him. And then
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  up on the top, I got a skull that's a
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  just a big uh uh ceramic skull that's up
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  on the on up the hill. Then if you walk
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  down the woods, there's some prosthetic
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  arms and some torsos and another skull
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  and stuff hanging from the from the
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  woods. I mean, it's it's just, you know,
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  and it's for nobody else's enjoyment but
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  my own because nobody else sees it.
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  >> It scare the neighbors.
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  >> The neighbors don't come over.
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  >> It's strictly for my enjoyment. Did you
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  create all this stuff? This is your
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  artwork. That's awesome.
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  >> It's all my stuff.
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  >> Twister really only has one neighbor
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  that's kind of close. It's the one right
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  down beside you.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> And there was a time that was for sale.
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  I was going to we I wanted to buy it and
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  then we just have like a mechanical
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  chair going up and down from
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  >> that would have been beautiful.
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  >> That'd be great.
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  >> We'd both be divorced.
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  >> He's got a lot of [ __ ] going on. We got
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  He's got an English castle in gosh dang
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  Kirkwood. Now he's got a house down to
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  Liy Ozarks. He's doing his thing. You're
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  way up to Nianga. Like what do you got
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  going on, Si?
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  >> Not much.
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  >> But I the Gator
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  >> besides Gator I do I take a lot of naps.
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  >> I take a lot of
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  >> So I probably nap every day. I drive
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  around to come see you guys and talk to
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  everybody. I fish a lot. Um,
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  >> are you good?
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  >> Decent. I go out with some guys at the
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  lake that are pretty good. They show me
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  where to fish and they know what's going
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  on. Old
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  >> you just wake up in that and take off
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  because I mean you lots of naps that
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  that's the position.
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  >> I can sleep anywhere. I could sleep on
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  the couch out here. I can sleep in this
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  chair.
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  >> Soup with the guys you fish with
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  everybody up there when you talk about
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  fishing, they all got the honey hole. I
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  got a honey hole.
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  >> Old school
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  >> and I'm like
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  >> I sunk a tree over here. I'm going to
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  hit this tree and I guarantee you're
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  going to catch something. Yeah.
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  personally sunk a tree there.
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  >> Yeah. They put their weights on it and
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  they'll sink it there and then they
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  always go there cuz they're fishing
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  tournaments.
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  >> Oh yeah.
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  >> So they come back to the sweet spot.
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  >> That sounds like it's illegal.
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  >> It's almost illegal. Maybe they're tying
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  the fish there and putting them up and
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  catch I don't know.
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  >> The guys that put the weights and stuff.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. That's not great.
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  >> Do you guys see the guy who faked the
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  hole in one?
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  >> How do you do that?
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  >> That's not That's good.
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  >> That is interesting guy too, right?
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  >> Huh?
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  >> Was it Crafty?
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  >> It was diabolical. No,
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  >> it was the most ridiculous thing ever.
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  >> He wasn't even crafty.
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  >> No, no,
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  >> we're talking about it. Just bring it up
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  now real quick. It's not a long story.
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  >> No,
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  >> he was playing a golf round the next
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  day.
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  >> He was in a tournament. He was It was
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  like a member guest tournament, but it
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  was one where everybody went off and not
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  a shotgun where everybody's on a hole
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  and he was on the first hole and he
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  found that out and he bought in that
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  morning for the hole in one. Well,
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  before at like 5:30 in the morning after
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  the grounds crew had left, he parked his
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  car right by the par three uh on number
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  three at Wing Haven. And he snuck in and
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  he made a divot in the thing and he put
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  a hole in there. And then after they got
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  done at the second, he's like, I got to
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  run forward and I'm just going to take
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  my shot so that I can go and make a
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  phone call when he comes back. They're
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  like, how was your his three guys?
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  >> Grandma is grandma.
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  >> Some crazy story. Then he came back and
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  they're like, I don't know. I kind of
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  scoldled it, but there I don't know
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  where it's at. He walked up.
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  He had put a ball in the hole earlier
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  that morning.
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  >> Did the hole in the morning,
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  >> but then
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  camera on the shack that he PARKED NEXT.
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  >> COME ON. Then he got busted. So the guys
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  out there like, "Well, who witnessed
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  this?" And they're like, "Well, he ran
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  ahead and took a shot cuz he had a phone
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  call." And everyone's like, "No, like
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  part of the rule for the hole in one
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  deal is you got to have a witness." So
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  then they're like, "Well, we've got
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  videos, right?" So then they start
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  looking through all the videos. They see
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  him pulling up at 5:30 in the morning on
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  camera,
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  >> taking the ball and dropping it in the
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  hole. He and his girl have won
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  tournaments too before that too.
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  >> It's all under suspicion now.
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  >> He's been kicked out of like three or
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  four country clubs in the St. Louis area
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  for doing this type of [ __ ]
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  >> Isn't that stealing? Can you not get
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  >> I don't know the legal ramifications,
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  but moral ramifications.
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  >> It's a $1,500 pot. Like if I'm going if
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  I'm going to be something, I'm going for
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  BIGGER THAN 1500.
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  >> NOT A BAD IDEA. I was like
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  >> that is honest. We in some of those
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  tournaments back in the day.
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  >> Wow. We got a preferred lie. That was a
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  charity tournament. Jim, you're in a
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  safe place.
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  >> A preferred lie.
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  >> As soon as Winter showed up to a golf
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  tournament, we knew they were cheating
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  and they were 22 under every time.
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  >> Twister. I had to deal with the worst
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  golfer I've ever seen.
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  >> I was a young cataract.
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  >> Never never knew. I My parents never
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  played golf and I started playing golf
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  all the time cuz you're with the guys,
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  man, and you're getting invited to all
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  these [ __ ] tournaments. And I went to
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  some big dog tournaments and I had no
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  idea what to wear and I would wear like
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  t-shirt like and like you know jean
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  shorts
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  >> like a hillbilly
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  >> but I'd be always with you and a couple
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  other cats.
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  >> Oh boy.
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  >> And
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  >> sometimes they would do things where we
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  would win and they would all go out for
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  a cigarette and I'm sitting there with
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  Al McKinnis and [ __ ] everybody and
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  they'd be like team Cam Jansen wins and
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  >> 23 UNDER AND EVERYONE'S LIKE
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  LYNCH AT MY [ __ ] TABLE.
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  >> We all outside looking through the
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  window and everybody they all look at JD
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  they're like what? And I get up like
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  and I go get ALL THESE GIFTS.
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  >> THEY SHOT PRETTY GOOD.
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  >> IS THAT GOOD? Is 2300 good?
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  >> Oh my god.
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  >> Z fills his scorecard out before the
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  round.
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  >> Yeah, he handed it in before the
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  tournament.
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  >> So he got so bad. Trust me, we're going
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  to get there.
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  >> Remember,
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  >> that was awesome. That was a good day.
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  >> But then you gave away all the stuff to
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  the kids, right?
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  >> I gave it to the children.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> That's a That classic.
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  >> That's a good cell.
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  >> That was funny.
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  >> No, it's embarrassing.
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  >> You can't do that.
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  >> Well, you can.
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  >> We did. It did. It happened.
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  >> I was a young kid.
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  >> I didn't know what was going on.
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  >> I blacked out. Blame the other guys.
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  >> Cam's coming to the golf tournament.
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  >> I'm sitting there by
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  >> Do you go Do you cheat at all the golf
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  tournaments?
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  >> Yes.
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  >> No. No. Yes, you do.
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  >> Oh, a Jeep's such a heavy.
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  >> Yeah. What does that mean? What does
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  that mean?
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  >> Why do you have to be so aggressive?
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  >> I'm not playing the ball down in the
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  divots. Fluff it up a little bit. You
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  know,
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  >> soup. You guys take 13 putts to get it
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  in and then call it a birdie.
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  >> What? Yes. I've been on your team.
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  >> Oh, yeah. Then you were taking the 13th.
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  >> I wasn't. I was in the golf cart waiting
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  for you guys.
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  >> I was mad at you.
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  >> Lozy can do a good drive, but he's bad
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  at keeping score.
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  THAT'S WHY I DO IT FOR HIM.
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  >> LOI CAN'T COUNT PAST 25, SO HE'S not
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  allowed to keep scoring.
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  >> I golf with Lo and Bell Ree a couple
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  months ago when they were setting up
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  balls and Lozi hit a shot in the
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  tournament that nobody the ball went
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  past something like we [ __ ] crushed
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  it. And everybody was talking about that
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  and they were talking about on the radio
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  the next day too and like yeah like he
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  didn't even probably look at the ball.
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  You just [ __ ] smoked it and you went
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  past like no one's ever done that
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  before. You green something.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> And then you hit four shots.
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  >> Drive. He five putted.
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  >> Drive for pumps up and I pump.
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  >> Drive for show putt for dough. And I
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  have show and no dough. So
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  >> yeah.
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  >> I wish I was.
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  >> Hey Cam, can you bow us out for a
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  second? My diaper's full.
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  >> Let's go.
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  >> All right.
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  >> Get yourself some Bare Knuckle Barbecue.
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  bare knuckle-b.com.
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  If you haven't got some, get yourself
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  some.
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  >> Loey, what are you up to, man? Tell
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  >> about 64300.
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  >> Holy [ __ ] What?
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  >> Losi hits it 350 down the pipe. Got to
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  pump his tires up for that. We talked
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  about it earlier. He will.
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  >> I'm not going to hit I am not hitting
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  350 on the scale, though.
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  >> I didn't 300.
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  >> I'm about 295 right now.
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  >> God, I'm fat, too.
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  >> I I And I just I wear it well. I wear
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  than most people wear, 295 pounds, but I
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  I need to be about 260. So, I'm working
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  towards that. Trying to get a little
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  better food in me.
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  >> Couple less glasses of wine at night.
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  I'm eating a ton of cottage cheese right
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  now and I'm [ __ ] ate up with it. I'm
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  putting on my sweet potatoes. I'm
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  putting it in my pastas. It's
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  >> You bought duct tape then cuz I saw some
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  of it duct tape to your ass.
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  >> Oh,
• 13:55
  he was having
• 13:58
  that. That's it.
• 14:00
  >> IT WAS TOO EASY.
• 14:01
  >> I'M NOT I am not happy about being fat,
• 14:05
  >> but I am fat and happy.
• 14:07
  >> Well, you were topping out a little bit
• 14:08
  heavier than 295 at one point.
• 14:12
  >> Yeah, I was. Yeah, but we're not talking
• 14:14
  about that.
• 14:14
  >> We're lean.
• 14:15
  >> Don't feel that. I was like 285 at one
• 14:17
  point.
• 14:18
  >> At 61.
• 14:19
  >> Jamie, you look better now than you did
• 14:21
  12 years ago.
• 14:21
  >> Hold on one second. You topped out at
• 14:23
  283.
• 14:24
  >> 285. even when we were working together
• 14:26
  because I got this huge ass and legs.
• 14:28
  You can carry it.
• 14:29
  >> Yeah. I got
• 14:30
  >> And I got on the scale and I was like,
• 14:32
  "Oh my
• 14:33
  >> What do you weigh now?"
• 14:35
  >> 222 probably.
• 14:36
  >> Okay.
• 14:38
  >> You're not hiding freaking 60 lbs.
• 14:41
  >> Buddy, you were working with me.
• 14:43
  >> I know you were fat, but you can't hide
• 14:45
  it.
• 14:45
  >> I'm tr trust me. I never forget the day
• 14:48
  I I went to to teach a hockey camp and I
• 14:51
  bent over to tie my skates. I got up. I
• 14:54
  was out of breath. Yeah.
• 14:55
  >> And I could barely reach. I need longer
• 14:56
  arms
• 14:57
  >> or
• 14:58
  >> so pretty close. And then so I went over
• 14:59
  to the scale in the alumni room, stepped
• 15:02
  on the scale. It was like 284 point
• 15:04
  whatever. And I was like, "Oh god." And
• 15:07
  that moment I stopped like that changed
• 15:08
  his impressive about six days a week on
• 15:11
  the road. Yeah.
• 15:13
  >> We should talk about Jimmy Roberts.
• 15:14
  >> I love Jimmy Roberts.
• 15:16
  >> Yeah.
• 15:16
  >> I We need to dedicate almost a whole
• 15:18
  episode to that
• 15:20
  >> because
• 15:20
  >> Great coach. He has so many stories.
• 15:23
  Yeah,
• 15:23
  >> there's a picture of you in our alumni
• 15:25
  dress wrestling room and Jimmy Roberts
• 15:27
  talking to you and everybody's like
• 15:28
  that's where Jimmy Roberts is talking to
• 15:30
  Subie about defense and all Subie wants
• 15:32
  to do is stand at the far blue line
• 15:35
  is what
• 15:36
  >> he's just standing there to be labeled
• 15:37
  >> look at the far blue line look at the
• 15:39
  far blue line's going to turn to him and
• 15:41
  say I can't score goals from the
• 15:42
  defensive zone I remember there's a
• 15:44
  picture that's circulating out there
• 15:47
  where Jimmy Roberts is trying to go
• 15:48
  after you and I'm holding him it's a Joe
• 15:51
  Lewis arena he was in the playoffs
• 15:53
  legitimately.
• 15:54
  >> Legitimately, Subie said something.
• 15:56
  Jimmy was talking about playing some
• 15:58
  kind of a defense or whatever and Jimmy
• 16:00
  said something about scoring goals. And
• 16:03
  it wasn't wrong because Subie was one of
• 16:04
  our goal scorers. Like it wasn't right,
• 16:06
  but it was like, okay, I get Jimmy
• 16:08
  snapped. I was like, what? He tried to
• 16:10
  go after Subie and I'm like grabbing I
• 16:12
  I'll find this picture and and I'll post
• 16:14
  it. We'll post a picture.
• 16:17
  >> Maybe I was keeping the the the light
• 16:19
  stressful.
• 16:20
  >> We had the playoffs the the 70s year.
• 16:22
  remember we went like the pork chops and
• 16:24
  everything
• 16:24
  >> and I'm sitting there holding Jimmy by
• 16:26
  his JACK AND HE'S LIKE
• 16:28
  >> TRYING to kill you.
• 16:30
  >> I got the cutting edge. I've got the
• 16:31
  best
• 16:32
  >> I can't remember I because I did a lot
• 16:34
  of [ __ ]
• 16:34
  >> I can't remember what he said but it was
• 16:36
  something about ignoring defense to
• 16:38
  create offense and we were in the
• 16:40
  playoffs and Jimmy didn't want to hear
• 16:41
  that.
• 16:42
  >> He wasn't happy. But it
• 16:44
  >> we all laughed about it.
• 16:45
  >> It was good. We were in Pittsburgh one
• 16:46
  night and the Blackhawks uh had played
• 16:49
  that night and we had just got in and I
• 16:51
  was rooming with Reed Simpson and Bob
• 16:53
  Probert and Ryan Vandenbush and a few
• 16:55
  guys were going out to have drinks after
• 16:57
  and they called uh Simmer. They're like,
• 16:59
  "Yeah, we'll meet them out." So, we're
• 17:00
  like curfews kind of 11. We're like down
• 17:02
  there about 11:25 waiting for a cab.
• 17:05
  Mike Kitchen, Joel Quinnville and Jimmy
• 17:07
  Roberts get out of the cab and me and
• 17:08
  Simmer are standing there like oh god.
• 17:10
  They're like make it a good one. Boy is
• 17:12
  like that. We jump in the cab, we take
• 17:14
  off. We're like, let's just, you know,
• 17:16
  take it easy tonight or whatever. We're
• 17:17
  going to get bagged for sure in the
• 17:19
  morning and pregame skate because
• 17:20
  neither of us were playing. And so we
• 17:22
  anyways, we have a couple. We go back.
• 17:23
  We figure we're going to get bag skated
• 17:25
  the next morning. So we're looking
• 17:26
  waiting for Jimmy's. He's got his
• 17:28
  mittens with the tape on them. He's got
• 17:30
  his Velcro skates on and he skates over.
• 17:32
  He's like, "No skate today, boys.
• 17:34
  Enjoy." We're like, "Man, we should have
• 17:35
  had a little more fun last night."
• 17:37
  >> You were
• 17:38
  that night?
• 17:39
  >> Yeah. He wasn't drinking.
• 17:40
  >> Were you guys making a rock?
• 17:42
  >> Quiet. Quiet. so cool, so quiet. And I
• 17:45
  had already fought him. I fought him in
• 17:47
  my like fifth game in the league. And I
• 17:49
  had fought four like I fought a lot
• 17:50
  right at the beginning of my of my of my
• 17:52
  tenure with in the NHL. But Bobby was
• 17:55
  looking at me. I had fought four fights
• 17:57
  in four games. I think it was my fifth
• 17:59
  game, whatever. And he's like looking at
• 18:01
  me going shaking his bells. I'm like,
• 18:02
  shouldn't I be the one coming after you
• 18:04
  right now? You're hungry for me. You're
• 18:06
  like 36 years old. I'm 24 years old. You
• 18:09
  know what I mean? So we had it there.
• 18:11
  Uh, we never fought again, but we were
• 18:12
  at dinner that or just drinks that night
• 18:14
  and he was just not drinking. He was
• 18:16
  quiet, super nice, super fun.
• 18:18
  >> How many How many of those How many
• 18:20
  rocks did you have for that rock pile?
• 18:22
  It sounds like you had You went out and
• 18:23
  made a rock pile.
• 18:24
  >> We did. We did. There was
• 18:25
  >> There's some good dudes in that group.
• 18:27
  >> They're all Bush, Simmer, Van Bush.
• 18:30
  Yeah, me, Simmer, Van Bush, and Proby.
• 18:32
  It was
• 18:32
  >> Bushy was a great dude. I remember
• 18:34
  >> tough guy.
• 18:34
  >> My first year in junior in the OHL, I'm
• 18:37
  playing for Sudbury and Vanden Bush is
• 18:39
  playing for the Cornwall Royals. He's
• 18:41
  not a big guy. Think about him as an
• 18:43
  NHLer. He was bigger then than he was in
• 18:45
  junior.
• 18:46
  >> And I remember, you know, my brother
• 18:48
  again, the [ __ ] disturber. He's like,
• 18:50
  "Hey, your first got to get out there.
• 18:52
  Get get in the scrap curtain wiper."
• 18:54
  >> Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm looking over at
• 18:56
  this guy Vandenbush. I'm like, "Okay,
• 18:58
  yeah, I'll fight this guy, you know,
• 19:00
  whatever." and I was about to and then
• 19:03
  Barry Moore who was like our third
• 19:05
  rounder that year. He somehow gets into
• 19:08
  it with Vandenbush.
• 19:10
  >> Barry Moore finished fourth and I could
• 19:13
  not believe Vanden Bush threw lefts,
• 19:14
  rights, lefts, right. I looked I looked
• 19:16
  over at my brother. I go, "Good that I
• 19:17
  didn't pick HIM." HE GOES, "YEAH,
• 19:18
  PROBABLY STAY AWAY FROM THAT GUY."
• 19:20
  >> Bushy was lefts and man, he chucked him
• 19:23
  hard and fast. He didn't care how big
• 19:26
  you were. He fought Kyle Frederick 6'7,
• 19:29
  >> right in front of the bench. And I think
• 19:30
  somebody said like one of his tooth flew
• 19:33
  out and stuck into somebody's dick. I
• 19:34
  don't know if that's a legend or not,
• 19:35
  but Bushy wasn't afraid of anybody. Him
• 19:38
  and PJ
• 19:39
  >> out by [ __ ] Grimson.
• 19:40
  >> Oh yeah.
• 19:41
  >> Yeah.
• 19:41
  >> And then and then he fought Grimmer
• 19:43
  again and he was cut up like [ __ ]
• 19:45
  this train like eat.
• 19:46
  >> One of the greatest fights I've ever
• 19:48
  seen. It was in the minors the lockout
• 19:50
  year. I was playing in Hershey and it
• 19:53
  was Dennis Bonvy and Vandenbush.
• 19:57
  >> Three and a half minutes long. Oh, these
• 19:59
  guys like neither of them had to do it.
• 20:01
  They were such established guys. At
• 20:02
  least in the minors, they were
• 20:03
  established guys. It's not like they
• 20:04
  were fighting a rookie. These guys had
• 20:06
  fought before in junior in the minors in
• 20:09
  the NHL. They went on for like three and
• 20:12
  a half minutes. You YouTube it Dennis
• 20:14
  Bonvy, right?
• 20:14
  >> I'm going to get home.
• 20:16
  >> So, you're going to be like this. What
• 20:17
  are they doing? And all of a sudden,
• 20:19
  they get it loose and they go.
• 20:21
  >> It's like, well, you owned the longest
• 20:22
  fight in the National Hockey League. How
• 20:24
  long was that? How long was that? It was
• 20:26
  It was long. Me and LeBron. Who's
• 20:28
  >> Oh god, he was
• 20:29
  >> Hey, listen. These goddamn minor league
• 20:31
  guys.
• 20:31
  >> But you own that title. How? How?
• 20:33
  >> He's not a minor league guy. I shouldn't
• 20:34
  say that. But like guys that are like up
• 20:36
  and down. Those guys are so [ __ ]
• 20:39
  tough, man. PL3, you know, he came in a
• 20:41
  jersey after me and he was long. He was
• 20:44
  >> Who's PL3?
• 20:46
  >> Pier Luke Lerno LeBlanc.
• 20:49
  Godamn.
• 20:50
  >> But he had lungs. He had lungs like you.
• 20:53
  He could fight forever.
• 20:54
  >> It was cool. like he was the king
• 20:56
  >> the miners for a long time. Vanden Bush
• 20:58
  knows guys like back in the HL used to
• 21:00
  play each other like 14 times like Kate
• 21:02
  Brett would play Freddy 14 up like he
• 21:05
  was with the Devils doing great and I
• 21:07
  think there was a game where he was said
• 21:10
  hey don't do anything and he went out
• 21:11
  there and got suspended or something
• 21:13
  like that it kind of ruined kind of put
• 21:15
  him back down and he kind of just kind
• 21:17
  of stayed on the minor
• 21:19
  >> but he wasn't like but he wasn't scary
• 21:22
  like that's the thing no he really
• 21:24
  wasn't though Cam like
• 21:25
  >> knock guys out
• 21:26
  >> you fought him for how how How long?
• 21:27
  What was the fight?
• 21:28
  >> Three. Yeah,
• 21:29
  >> three minutes.
• 21:30
  >> The record.
• 21:30
  >> Yeah, they said it
• 21:32
  >> the record. The record of national
• 21:33
  longest fight national right there.
• 21:34
  >> But I'm not saying he wasn't tough.
• 21:36
  Okay. I'm saying like when you look at
• 21:39
  the board in the morning and like being
• 21:41
  a third pair of defenseman, I knew third
• 21:43
  and fourth line. I'm seeing them all
• 21:45
  night and I'm like looking at the board
• 21:47
  going, "Ugh, I" And you look at that
• 21:50
  name, you're like, "Nah,
• 21:50
  >> cuz he's not hitting you."
• 21:51
  >> But he wasn't scary. Like he didn't like
• 21:53
  he was tough as nail. He fought you.
• 21:55
  He's scary. If you don't fight him, it
• 21:56
  doesn't matter. Exactly. So, it's like
• 21:58
  whatever. But you get this mutant or
• 22:01
  this guy here and then like my what I
• 22:03
  hated the most. One of the guys I hated
• 22:04
  playing against the most two of them uh
• 22:06
  were Ty Doy and Rick Takin. Reason being
• 22:10
  both of these guys their physical
• 22:11
  stature not big
• 22:13
  like strong guys but not tall. So if I
• 22:16
  line somebody up like I remember in
• 22:18
  Toronto one night I freaking hammered
• 22:20
  Matt Sundine coming across the middle
• 22:22
  but that was my job. Got to go out and
• 22:24
  do it right. And then Ty Dome is
• 22:26
  breathing down the back of my neck. And
• 22:27
  then I'm like, okay. Like he could he
• 22:29
  could fight Proby, he could fight
• 22:31
  Twister, or he could fight a guy like me
• 22:32
  cuz he's not the hugest guy. And
• 22:35
  >> see, you ever see that clip of him?
• 22:37
  >> You know, I love it so much. And it's
• 22:39
  like peak shitkicking Toronto Maple
• 22:41
  Leafs where they had Doy Roberts. Yeah.
• 22:44
  >> Tucker, Beac Corson,
• 22:47
  >> Manson, all there too. That's a little
• 22:51
  bit later. And then like uh Brashier's
• 22:54
  cruising around and hits doy warm-ups
• 22:56
  and don't [ __ ] and and then you got all
• 22:58
  these guys stacked up on the red line's
• 23:01
  like [ __ ] you and comes by hits him
• 23:03
  again. It's the it's like peak [ __ ]
• 23:06
  kicking testosterone those two teams
• 23:09
  going against each other and then do
• 23:11
  fought for Sheer and did really well
• 23:12
  against them.
• 23:13
  >> But my point is with those two Rick Tak
• 23:16
  in particular too and we played a lot
• 23:17
  against Rick and and you did too is they
• 23:20
  could skate. they could skate. So Ty
• 23:23
  Dolomi could dump it in your corner or
• 23:24
  Rick Tocket and they could skate. So you
• 23:26
  had to get back there. You had to be
• 23:28
  evasive. You had to, you know, have a
• 23:29
  kind of move or get to the boards quick,
• 23:31
  take the hit
• 23:32
  >> and you just didn't know if they're
• 23:33
  going to run you from behind, take your
• 23:35
  head off, like whatever it was. And
• 23:37
  especially after you hit somebody good.
• 23:39
  >> Um, and you had wheels, Cam. You had
• 23:42
  wheels. You could
• 23:43
  >> cam was dangerous like that.
• 23:44
  >> But the unfortunate part is that you
• 23:46
  didn't have enough tools to stay on the
• 23:48
  ice for any length of time. And I'm and
• 23:49
  I'm I'm not being insulting, but you had
• 23:51
  the speed and guys were well aware that
• 23:54
  going behind the net was going to cost
• 23:56
  you.
• 23:56
  >> I didn't know how to sauce a puck until
• 23:58
  I was 16 years old playing junior.
• 24:00
  >> I I tell you this all the time.
• 24:02
  >> Taught me.
• 24:02
  >> I tell you this. If you
• 24:04
  >> No. No. Seriously.
• 24:05
  >> I got drafted to Windsor when I was
• 24:08
  playing Triple A. So it wasn't like
• 24:09
  fighting like Dave.
• 24:10
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 24:11
  >> When I was playing Triple A scores.
• 24:13
  Dude, you are a good hockey player, but
• 24:15
  when you were on the ice,
• 24:17
  >> hockey wasn't even a thing. You were
• 24:19
  just looking headhunting everybody. I
• 24:21
  always tell you, like when I watched you
• 24:22
  play, if you if you would have taken 50%
• 24:25
  of the
• 24:26
  >> crazy man that you were and implemented
• 24:28
  into hockey, you probably could have
• 24:30
  done it. I know.
• 24:30
  >> Yeah, but it wasn't a thing.
• 24:32
  >> What do you think?
• 24:33
  >> LISTEN, THOMAS,
• 24:34
  >> DAD'S TELLING ME how to get the puck out
• 24:36
  of the [ __ ] zone.
• 24:36
  >> Thomas Cabet still got tweety birds
• 24:38
  going around his head. So,
• 24:40
  >> like, but you think my mom and dad are
• 24:41
  like, "This is what you need to do."
• 24:42
  Like I I just want to figure out
• 24:44
  >> it wasn't a thing. Know your niches,
• 24:46
  find your riches. That's all I
• 24:48
  >> It wasn't a thing. You didn't do skill
• 24:49
  development.
• 24:50
  >> Before we move off, Tyomi 339
• 24:53
  fighting majors in the NHL. It's a
• 24:56
  record for most fighting majors in the
• 24:57
  NHL.
• 24:58
  >> Rigid.
• 25:00
  You're goddamn right.
• 25:01
  >> Yeah.
• 25:02
  >> Uh Paul Law has the most fighting majors
• 25:04
  in a season at 42.
• 25:06
  >> Paul Law.
• 25:07
  >> Yeah.
• 25:08
  >> Florida Panthers.
• 25:09
  >> Twister like Florida.
• 25:10
  >> I didn't think he was that tough. I
• 25:11
  fought him in the minor and I and I
• 25:13
  broke his helmet in Florida.
• 25:14
  >> You're you.
• 25:15
  >> Yeah.
• 25:15
  >> No, because I brought split. Scott
• 25:17
  Melanie comes out and he goes, "You did
• 25:19
  this." And I split his helmet in a half.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:22
  >> he wasn't really in your weight class.
• 25:23
  >> No, he really was. And that's why I
• 25:25
  didn't I didn't think he was
• 25:26
  >> But he was a light heavyweight who
• 25:27
  fought everybody. He was tough as nails.
• 25:29
  I played with him in Florida. He was a
• 25:31
  great dude,
• 25:32
  >> but he got in so many fights that it cut
• 25:34
  his career really short.
• 25:35
  >> Yeah, dude. Taking punches, too.
• 25:38
  >> Yeah. And it's tough like he he wasn't
• 25:39
  big. And so he's fighting guys like
• 25:42
  Twister, Proby, Grimson. Like
• 25:45
  >> that [ __ ] wears on you.
• 25:46
  >> What a horrible.
• 25:47
  >> Well, that's like that's like Jamal
• 25:48
  Mayor. And God loved Jamal. I tell you
• 25:51
  what, he extended his career another
• 25:53
  freaking seven or eight years cuz he
• 25:55
  wasn't a fighter when he started. He
• 25:57
  wasn't a heavyweight when he ended, but
• 25:59
  he realized that he was going to be a
• 26:01
  fourth. And that that dude could skate.
• 26:04
  Yeah, that guy
• 26:06
  was when you you could hear him coming
• 26:09
  and you turn around.
• 26:10
  >> Strong as a moose too. Powerful and a
• 26:13
  good player.
• 26:14
  >> But he extended his career. Known your
• 26:16
  niche. He found his niche there. He's
• 26:18
  and he stayed around. He knew he like I
• 26:20
  said I knew I was getting beat and I
• 26:22
  knew but I was going out there to do it
• 26:24
  because there's nobody else there to do
• 26:25
  it.
• 26:26
  >> He found a spot.
• 26:27
  >> He was able to get in and hit like
• 26:29
  >> Oh, he could hit.
• 26:30
  >> You got to get move be mobile. Like you
• 26:31
  got to [ __ ] it's a skill to hit guys.
• 26:33
  Like it's not like going there. You have
• 26:35
  to be able to get your angle down.
• 26:37
  >> Jammer Jammer called me on my first
• 26:39
  training camp. It was his second
• 26:40
  training camp and right off the bat he
• 26:42
  came up to me and he's like, "Let's go."
• 26:44
  So we went after it.
• 26:45
  >> How did that go? I'm going to look up.
• 26:48
  >> Look it up. I hit him with a few lefts
• 26:50
  and he down he went. But then I fell on
• 26:52
  top of his hip. He he landed on his hip.
• 26:55
  He always tells everybody that I was the
• 26:56
  one that was laying on the ice after,
• 26:58
  but I hit him with some lifts. He went
• 27:00
  down and I landed I landed on him like
• 27:03
  straddle and and busted my balls. So I
• 27:06
  had a little bit of like
• 27:06
  >> you owned him.
• 27:07
  >> So I was like, "Oh." So I was laying
• 27:09
  there for a second.
• 27:09
  >> One slipped out, got into the cup and
• 27:11
  split him in half.
• 27:12
  >> I got to pump up this so all y'all out
• 27:14
  there know like Losi ain't easy to deal
• 27:16
  with on ice
• 27:18
  >> cuz he's big, he's strong, and he can
• 27:21
  throw a [ __ ] bolt down the pipe.
• 27:23
  >> What the [ __ ]
• 27:24
  >> Just to be clear, you're taking the W on
• 27:26
  that one.
• 27:27
  >> Tony.
• 27:27
  >> All right.
• 27:28
  >> All right. Let's make sure we mark that.
• 27:29
  >> Mark that. Let's have Jammer on here. He
• 27:31
  can verify.
• 27:32
  >> Jammer's actually calling in.
• 27:35
  >> We all know.
• 27:37
  >> So, I got to tell a quick story. I don't
• 27:38
  know if you guys have ever heard this.
• 27:39
  Sup, you were on the team at the time.
• 27:42
  Um, it was Twister was on the team. We
• 27:44
  were in Chicago and Chicago had Proby,
• 27:48
  Mark Jansen, Dave Manson, like they had
• 27:51
  four or five legitimate guys and they
• 27:53
  had Doug Gilmore. Y
• 27:54
  >> and Doug Gilmore cuts across the blue
• 27:56
  line in the
• 27:59
  second period and I crush him. Put him
• 28:02
  out of the game.
• 28:03
  >> I wasn't trying to hurt Doug Gilmore. It
• 28:05
  just happened.
• 28:07
  >> Okay.
• 28:08
  >> Right.
• 28:09
  >> So highlighter.
• 28:12
  >> It was a great hit. It wasn't.
• 28:14
  >> Fast forward to the third period.
• 28:16
  There's an offside call outside of our
• 28:18
  blue line. It's United Center and so
• 28:20
  it's right in front of the bench and
• 28:22
  Joel Krenville's the coach, whatnot. and
• 28:23
  I'm on the ice with Craig Conroy, Scott
• 28:26
  Pellerin and Blair Ainham and I think
• 28:28
  Bie
• 28:32
  was my partner. All of a sudden, Probert
• 28:35
  Jansson's Manson,
• 28:37
  >> they all come over the boards. I'm like,
• 28:38
  "Oh god,
• 28:39
  >> they're going to" and they're I looking
• 28:41
  at me like foam in their mouth. I'm
• 28:42
  like, "Oh, [ __ ] I'm dead." Like, I'm
• 28:44
  dead. There's no getting out of this
• 28:45
  one.
• 28:46
  >> So, they win the face off. They go D. I
• 28:48
  think was it Rob Zetler or Smolk? One of
• 28:51
  those guys. rips it in to put it in my
• 28:53
  corner, but he shoots it in the bench.
• 28:55
  Our bench. So I'm like, "Yes." I look
• 28:58
  over at like Q and I'm like, "Okay."
• 29:00
  Like, "You're changing here, right?"
• 29:01
  Like, "You're not." Leaves me on the
• 29:03
  [ __ ] ice.
• 29:05
  >> And I'm like, "Oh, fuck." So I'm like,
• 29:06
  "Okay." So I'm in my head. I'm
• 29:08
  contemplating who am I going to just go
• 29:10
  straight after because like get it over.
• 29:12
  I don't want Proby.
• 29:13
  >> No. And down
• 29:14
  >> this guy here. Then you see a stick come
• 29:16
  off the bench and he pulls Scott Pelerin
• 29:18
  over the boards. He crawls over the
• 29:20
  boards and gets on the ice and he stands
• 29:22
  up and goes, "Which one of you guys
• 29:24
  wants to [ __ ] fight?"
• 29:26
  >> And nobody even made eye contact. And
• 29:29
  this is when Twister had a real good run
• 29:31
  against Proby for a while. And this was
• 29:32
  one of those moments in time. And nobody
• 29:35
  like said anything. So he goes, "All
• 29:36
  right, let's play some hockey then." And
• 29:38
  my balls grew 10 times the size of what
• 29:41
  they were. I could barely fit them in my
• 29:43
  pants after the game.
• 29:45
  >> He saved you.
• 29:45
  >> Of course he did. Oh,
• 29:47
  >> well at least Q had enough intention. He
• 29:49
  It was me pulling P.
• 29:51
  >> Yeah.
• 29:51
  >> And Q, this is before Q really knew the
• 29:54
  role. Like to leave you out there. Oh
• 29:55
  god.
• 29:56
  >> I mean, you might as well maybe radio
• 29:58
  right now. You should stutter. You
• 30:00
  should all five of the guys would
• 30:02
  Everybody would be It would have been
• 30:03
  like the hands. It would have been the
• 30:05
  hands.
• 30:05
  >> Who was your D partner?
• 30:07
  >> Burgers. I was okay. Burgers would have
• 30:08
  helped me,
• 30:09
  >> right?
• 30:09
  >> Yeah, he would have grabbed.
• 30:10
  >> He's strong, big guy. Like he was like,
• 30:11
  you know, he so much fight there
• 30:14
  >> when you got the monster. Oh yeah. After
• 30:16
  that I was like, "Yeah, what's
• 30:19
  on your team there?" I was waiting for
• 30:21
  the story. I'm like, "Oh yeah, he's
• 30:23
  there." Like, "You're okay."
• 30:24
  >> Oh, [ __ ] Yeah.
• 30:25
  >> You know, Quinnville's not taking you
• 30:26
  off.
• 30:27
  >> Well, he was pay whether he wanted me to
• 30:29
  to pay my freight or whether he was
• 30:31
  unaware what he was.
• 30:33
  >> Just unaware.
• 30:33
  >> And I was like, "Holy crap, guys." Like
• 30:36
  >> unaware.
• 30:36
  >> But it worked out. It was fine.
• 30:38
  >> All right. He should have sent you he
• 30:39
  should have sent Chopper out for you.
• 30:43
  >> Yeah. That's why you and Bersie are out
• 30:45
  because there's nobody else they wanted
• 30:46
  to spare on the bench. That's a good
• 30:47
  thing.
• 30:47
  >> That's a good point.
• 30:48
  >> Cuz Al was my partner for the most part.
• 30:50
  >> That's right.
• 30:51
  >> And this time I found myself on a pod.
• 30:53
  He won't do it, man. Like
• 30:55
  >> Al's interesting guy
• 30:57
  >> like in the organization. One of them
• 30:59
  like we let me just sit talk to you for
• 31:02
  an hour and a half.
• 31:02
  >> I have got a question for your boys.
• 31:04
  What is the best chirp that that you
• 31:07
  were that not one that you heard the
• 31:09
  best chirp that you've ever heard when
• 31:13
  you were playing? Whether it be at you
• 31:15
  or somebody else. The
• 31:16
  >> best chirp that I ever heard was I was
• 31:18
  skating by the other team's bench and
• 31:20
  one guy yelled, "Hey, does your coach
• 31:22
  know you're on the ice?"
• 31:25
  >> Oh, wow. The best chirp I ever got
• 31:28
  wasn't from a player. It was from, you
• 31:31
  know, that guy in LA that sits behind
• 31:34
  the benches.
• 31:34
  >> Yeah. Irritating.
• 31:36
  >> He I got on the ice at one point or no,
• 31:40
  I came back off a shift and he goes,
• 31:42
  "Rivers, what are you doing?" And I'm
• 31:44
  like, "What is this?" HE GOES, "GET BACK
• 31:46
  ON THE ICE. YOU'RE OUR BEST PLAYER."
• 31:51
  >> I WAS LIKE, "THAT'S PRETTY GOOD." the
• 31:54
  best chirp I ever heard where Johnny K
• 31:57
  was with me in Quebec and we're in the
• 31:59
  the new
• 32:00
  >> John Cordic.
• 32:00
  >> John Yeah, Johnny Cordic in the new
• 32:02
  Montreal forum and it's but right
• 32:05
  there's going to be a it's a TV timeout
• 32:07
  and the the faceoff is right in front of
• 32:11
  our bench and Stefon Ree, you know, he's
• 32:14
  stepping in and it's quiet. Okay, it's
• 32:17
  quiet and Johnny now it's not on TV yet
• 32:21
  because they they're still on TV
• 32:22
  timeout. He goes, "I can still see the
• 32:24
  Vaseline on your ass where your
• 32:25
  boyfriend touched you last night."
• 32:28
  >> And it rang. You could hear people were
• 32:31
  laughing. We can hear the crowd laughing
• 32:33
  and everybody in the Montreal bench is,
• 32:37
  you know, and I'm laughing. And Reese
• 32:40
  goes out there and he does the face off
• 32:42
  and Johnny's chirping him and nobody on
• 32:44
  the Montreal bench. They didn't have
• 32:45
  anybody. This is me and Johnny K.
• 32:48
  >> And and I stand up. I go, "Nobody,
• 32:51
  >> nobody." No reverse. Was it Mario
• 32:52
  reverse?
• 32:53
  >> No. No. No. There was nobody.
• 32:55
  >> I saw it.
• 32:56
  >> And I'm I'm looking at the other bench
• 32:57
  going, "Anybody? No. Nothing. That's
• 32:59
  embarrassing." And that was it.
• 33:01
  >> The other day on YouTube about Johnny
• 33:03
  Cord.
• 33:04
  >> Oh, yeah. His life and what he went
• 33:05
  through and his passing and whatnot.
• 33:07
  It's really interesting. You look it up
• 33:09
  on YouTube.
• 33:10
  >> Oh, there's more than one. There's more
• 33:11
  than one. And I lived I lived a year of
• 33:13
  that. It was a pretty
• 33:14
  >> I know a bunch of guys who played with
• 33:15
  him and against him. And yeah, he was he
• 33:17
  was he had it rough, man. He he, you
• 33:19
  know, he Yeah, he did.
• 33:20
  >> He was a charismatic,
• 33:22
  energetic, super funny. He was quick. I
• 33:25
  tell you what, he was fast. He had
• 33:27
  jokes.
• 33:28
  >> He was quick. He just did not like his
• 33:29
  job.
• 33:30
  >> He did. I was going to say he actually
• 33:31
  hated the fighting, which drove him to
• 33:33
  all his other problems.
• 33:34
  >> And his father and his father drove him
• 33:36
  into the ditch. I mean, just hate just
• 33:38
  father killed him all the time. Just
• 33:41
  >> disintegrated him for what he was doing.
• 33:43
  And Johnny just he loved being in the
• 33:44
  dressing room.
• 33:45
  >> Johnny could shoot a puck, man.
• 33:46
  >> He didn't like fighting. Could he have
• 33:48
  played too without fighting? Was he a
• 33:49
  good player?
• 33:50
  >> Well, not that good.
• 33:51
  >> He won a Memorial Cup. He won a [ __ ]
• 33:52
  another thing. He won the Calder Cup.
• 33:54
  Then he won a Stanley Cup. He was a part
• 33:56
  of all that. Like he's a winner.
• 33:58
  >> And he was like just getting he really
• 34:00
  did. He won all this. He put a point
• 34:02
  looking up.
• 34:03
  >> Problem is though at the NHL level, he
• 34:04
  couldn't skate good enough or handle the
• 34:06
  puck good enough. Now, if you got him to
• 34:08
  puck, he could shoot the damn thing.
• 34:10
  >> Little lefty.
• 34:11
  >> Lefty, but he could throw both. And he
• 34:12
  could eat a punch, too. And he was he
• 34:14
  was half crazy cuz he wanted it to be
• 34:16
  over. so fast that he'd do anything he
• 34:18
  possibly could to end it.
• 34:20
  >> Well, he was good enough to do this over
• 34:22
  the course of his of his career and all
• 34:24
  these different teams. He crashed six
• 34:26
  cars, five of them Corvettes. Yeah.
• 34:29
  >> He didn't show he didn't show up to four
• 34:31
  games.
• 34:32
  >> No, not not practices, games where he
• 34:35
  didn't show. One of them was in Quebec.
• 34:37
  >> Uh he had he you know missed home game.
• 34:40
  >> Miss Yeah. Missed a home game. He missed
• 34:42
  more than just one. And he got a fight
• 34:45
  with his coach. literally a fight and
• 34:47
  but he was invited back so he had
• 34:49
  something
• 34:50
  >> that every team wanted
• 34:51
  >> had something
• 34:52
  >> he had something
• 34:53
  >> and you know it was
• 34:55
  >> he won everywhere man
• 34:56
  >> yeah that's what I'm saying he was
• 34:57
  wherever it may be but
• 34:58
  >> it's tough how do you guys feel about
• 35:00
  that because you guys fought way more
• 35:02
  than supy and I obviously and like how
• 35:06
  do you feel about seeing guys that you
• 35:08
  know that struggle and [ __ ] like that
• 35:10
  like I'm not I'm not trying to be heavy
• 35:12
  duty here but like at the same time you
• 35:14
  look at the fighting majors
• 35:16
  across the board in this in in this room
• 35:17
  here with you guys and it's like I I
• 35:20
  like there's guys that I know that I see
• 35:22
  now that went through some tough times
• 35:23
  and it's like sometimes it's hard for me
• 35:26
  to digest and we've all had our own
• 35:27
  battles and you know I'm sure at some
• 35:29
  point we'll open up about some of that
• 35:31
  on here but like how
• 35:33
  >> much time we got.
• 35:34
  >> Yeah. And well that's what I'm saying
• 35:35
  like it's some we'll get there.
• 35:37
  >> I'm not trying to shoehorn it in today
• 35:39
  personal
• 35:40
  >> just Yeah. like the Boguards, the Bug
• 35:42
  Guards to the I mean and just
• 35:45
  you know like all that stuff
• 35:46
  >> and even the guys that you know Darren
• 35:48
  Mccard's gone through some tough times.
• 35:50
  I mean
• 35:50
  >> talk about a great dude by the way.
• 35:52
  >> Super super nice guy.
• 35:53
  >> How about how about Joey Murf? Joey
• 35:56
  >> Joey Murf he now there's a now he's gone
• 35:58
  he still is you know having some tough
• 36:00
  time.
• 36:01
  >> Did I tell you guys I talked to him?
• 36:03
  >> So there was a cop way up in Port Hiron
• 36:07
  or whatever some way northern Ontario.
• 36:09
  He followed me on like Twitter and he
• 36:12
  like messaged me at one point and was
• 36:13
  like, "Hey, I know where Joe Murphy is."
• 36:16
  And I was like, "Okay, whatever." He
• 36:19
  sends me a picture of Joe Murphy who's
• 36:22
  sleeping outside the gas station
• 36:23
  underneath the sign.
• 36:25
  >> And I'm like, "Oh my god." He goes,
• 36:26
  "Yeah." He goes, "Next time I go up
• 36:28
  there, if he's there," he goes, "Do you
• 36:29
  want me to call you?" And that I'm like,
• 36:31
  "Yeah." I mean, Murf and I were we were
• 36:34
  friends here. And uh Jojo Jojo dancing,
• 36:38
  baby. I got a great Jojo story. You
• 36:40
  remember the one from the Rangers?
• 36:42
  >> Oh my god. Madison Square Garden.
• 36:44
  >> So yeah, you were there. Yeah. Um
• 36:46
  >> anyway, so he calls me and it's Joe on
• 36:49
  the other end and like no it be Joe and
• 36:51
  I were pretty tight and it'd be like if
• 36:53
  you called me I'd be like what's up Cam
• 36:56
  like times are tough. I'm like Jojo
• 36:58
  Dancer and he's like hey Jamie how are
• 37:00
  you? I'm like okay. I'm like good man.
• 37:03
  He goes yeah. He goes hey I always
• 37:04
  thought you were a really good player.
• 37:05
  You were an excellent teammate. like the
• 37:07
  wiring was just off a little bit like
• 37:10
  >> well that at that time he was being he
• 37:12
  was no not as much as he was being
• 37:14
  bothered. Joe was a very intelligent
• 37:16
  man.
• 37:16
  >> Yes.
• 37:17
  >> And he did what he wanted to do when he
• 37:18
  wanted to do it. Meaning that the NHLPA
• 37:21
  stepped in tried to to give him a hand
• 37:22
  and got him a room and he just abandoned
• 37:24
  that. And then the documentary I don't
• 37:26
  know if you've seen that little
• 37:27
  documentary
• 37:28
  >> his he just
• 37:29
  >> I was in the beginning with I know you
• 37:30
  were West Ted or whatever. He called me
• 37:33
  and I was like telling him about Joe and
• 37:34
  told him where he was.
• 37:35
  >> That same gas station is there was the
• 37:37
  one
• 37:37
  >> Trevor kid called me and then Trevor Kid
• 37:40
  drove up to see Joe.
• 37:41
  >> It was the same gas station too by the
• 37:42
  way.
• 37:43
  >> Really? We Glenn Healey was involved.
• 37:45
  Heels and Heels we talked and he'll call
• 37:48
  me. He goes Rivs. He goes we put him up
• 37:50
  at a hotel. We tried to set him up to
• 37:52
  get a job or some training or like
• 37:53
  whatever. And he's like he just left the
• 37:55
  middle of the night. He's like went back
• 37:56
  like
• 37:57
  >> didn't want it. We have a a about three
• 38:00
  or four years ago, I guess it wasn't me,
• 38:02
  three years ago, uh couple guys that
• 38:05
  were more minor league guys um reached
• 38:07
  out to me and they started this kind of
• 38:10
  a compassion call. You you Cam was on
• 38:13
  it. They've been wanting to get you on
• 38:14
  for a while. I need to hook that up. But
• 38:16
  I I haven't been on as much lately just
• 38:18
  cuz my events and stuff have been so
• 38:20
  much busier. But it was really good and
• 38:22
  and and I was in a time where I needed
• 38:24
  to to to have the guys around and there
• 38:27
  some nights there'd be four or five of
• 38:28
  us on there, some nights there would be
• 38:29
  15 of us on there and we just talk about
• 38:31
  the days and and all like guys that like
• 38:35
  older than you that are on this call and
• 38:37
  younger than me and uh it's just a
• 38:40
  really cool place for these guys to go.
• 38:41
  Guys have talked on
• 38:43
  >> So what where do the guys find this? If
• 38:44
  say for example somebody's watching
• 38:46
  this, what do they do? Yeah. So, they uh
• 38:48
  uh reach out to the PHPA. Um um Chuck,
• 38:52
  and I'm drawing a blank on
• 38:56
  >> uh
• 38:56
  >> the PHPA.
• 38:57
  >> Yeah. Yeah. The That's who's this this
• 39:00
  pro this uh I can't believe Chuck's
• 39:02
  going to Don't air this cuz he's going
• 39:03
  to [ __ ]
• 39:05
  >> um What's Chuck's last name? He's the
• 39:07
  one that puts it on. Anyways, he was a
• 39:08
  goalie back in the day.
• 39:10
  >> Thus, Chuck Fuss. Yep, that's what it
• 39:12
  is. Sorry. Will
• 39:14
  >> right here. Chuck Fuss headed that
• 39:17
  properly. Uh great guy starts it all. He
• 39:20
  has a he has a business where he does
• 39:23
  helps athletes and and this was a big
• 39:25
  thing for him. We had a guy that's got
• 39:27
  his master's degree in gratitude. Uh he
• 39:30
  came on and talked for about 15 or 15 20
• 39:33
  minutes uh just about that and guys get
• 39:36
  a chance to just tell their story and
• 39:37
  just kind of get it out and have a place
• 39:39
  to go dump it. And we've there's
• 39:41
  probably somewhere in the neighborhood
• 39:43
  of pro hockey players both NHL and minor
• 39:45
  leagues in the last 10 years. We've got
• 39:48
  40 or 45 guys that have committed
• 39:49
  suicide. And so this whole call was like
• 39:52
  there's something out there. We can help
• 39:54
  you. We'll try and do something like
• 39:56
  even if it's just a brotherhood or or a
• 39:58
  safe place every Wednesday at 6:00 for
• 40:00
  you to go. So it's it's a tough
• 40:02
  situation. And I know like for me, you
• 40:04
  asked the question, for me coming out of
• 40:06
  hockey, like I retired because I didn't
• 40:09
  want to do it anymore. I just didn't
• 40:10
  want to fight. I broke my jaw. I had a
• 40:11
  plate and four screws in my chin. It was
• 40:13
  just a different there was just a
• 40:15
  different feeling. I was played four or
• 40:18
  five years in the NHL and then I was
• 40:19
  back up and down in the minors and I'm
• 40:20
  like 31 years old. I'm like, what am I
• 40:22
  doing here? Like I've already made the
• 40:24
  NHL. I got the rest of my life. I'm just
• 40:26
  going to go. Had no school, no job. I
• 40:28
  just quit. started selling real estate
• 40:29
  and and thank goodness I got on with
• 40:31
  Richie Brothers about four months later
• 40:33
  and I had a team. It was an event-
• 40:36
  driven business. So, I was very lucky to
• 40:38
  get put in a situation where they
• 40:40
  brought me in and I had teammates again.
• 40:43
  And a lot of these guys, they don't have
• 40:44
  that. And and a lot of them, they don't
• 40:47
  have anything else other than hockey.
• 40:50
  And we love our teammates so much that
• 40:52
  we just fight all the time. And you
• 40:54
  can't get that outside the game in most
• 40:56
  cases.
• 40:57
  of these guys. They'll fight their way
• 40:59
  all the way through till they're 35, 36,
• 41:01
  37, 38 in the AHL or in the East Coast
• 41:03
  League and
• 41:04
  >> that's all they know.
• 41:05
  >> Without that value, would you have been
• 41:06
  where you're at? Because you four months
• 41:08
  you got attached to a team.
• 41:10
  >> Yeah.
• 41:10
  >> Without that, what would have happened?
• 41:12
  >> Yeah. I I'm not sure. It probably
• 41:13
  wouldn't have been probably wouldn't
• 41:14
  have been good.
• 41:15
  >> So, the importance of these guys making
• 41:16
  a call and joining in because that could
• 41:18
  be the that could that could be the line
• 41:20
  >> 100%. And guys are like, man, like
• 41:22
  they've been on it. They're religious to
• 41:24
  it now and they're like this hotline,
• 41:27
  this call with these other former tough
• 41:30
  guys. And there's guys on there that
• 41:31
  aren't tough guys, too. Um that just
• 41:33
  have to be to go through some crap.
• 41:35
  >> No, you sure you sure don't.
• 41:36
  >> That's for sure.
• 41:36
  >> So, it's it's for anybody that played
• 41:38
  pro hockey. It's a And we had one guy
• 41:40
  that unfortunately went and took some
• 41:43
  stories outside and, you know, he got
• 41:44
  kicked out of the group and wasn't
• 41:46
  allowed back in because
• 41:47
  >> Oh, really?
• 41:47
  >> And things have to stay in house. It's
• 41:50
  like guys are guys are pouring stuff out
• 41:53
  that we don't want to go out and start
• 41:54
  talking around and so uh but there's
• 41:56
  guys that are just like man if I didn't
• 41:58
  have this I don't know where I'd be. So
• 41:59
  it's a cool thing.
• 42:00
  >> Well it's tough right because and you
• 42:03
  try two things about this one as as
• 42:06
  hockey players whether you're a fighter
• 42:08
  or just a player or you block shots or
• 42:10
  whatever it is or you score goals
• 42:12
  there's pressure to score goals. You're
• 42:14
  taught your whole life to ignore like
• 42:17
  not to have feelings. Like you can't be
• 42:20
  hurt, play hurt, play through the pain,
• 42:22
  don't cry about it, don't tell the
• 42:23
  trainers, all this stuff because maybe
• 42:26
  you won't play. Maybe the coach will
• 42:27
  think you're a [ __ ] or maybe whatever
• 42:29
  your teammates think you're a [ __ ] And
• 42:31
  so you're wired. And this is what I
• 42:32
  found in my postc career life, which by
• 42:35
  the way is quite a [ __ ] adventure.
• 42:37
  But um no doubt I never really wanted to
• 42:40
  reach out to him because it was a sign
• 42:41
  of weakness. Like I'm not a [ __ ] like
• 42:43
  I don't I I can get through this. Let me
• 42:44
  I'll just battle through it. Like, you
• 42:45
  know, I'll find a way. Well, we're not
• 42:48
  equipped with the tools, which leads me
• 42:49
  back to point number two is since I was
• 42:52
  four years old, I've been playing
• 42:53
  hockey. That's it. I don't have I I've
• 42:56
  had other jobs like pumping gas in the
• 42:58
  summer, but my job was hockey. So when
• 43:02
  you leave the game at whatever it is,
• 43:04
  30, 35, 40, what, whatever you're lucky
• 43:07
  to hang on to, you really, for the most
• 43:10
  part, guys don't have life skills.
• 43:13
  Meaning like to step into an office,
• 43:15
  we're for lack of better words, we're
• 43:17
  barbarians.
• 43:19
  >> And so you put us into a corporate
• 43:21
  corporate America, who the [ __ ] is this
• 43:23
  guy? You know, like it just the wiring
• 43:25
  is not the same. Now that flip side of
• 43:28
  that is the wiring that we do have is
• 43:31
  got tremendous value
• 43:33
  >> to certain places in the corporate world
• 43:35
  because we're so competitive. We're team
• 43:38
  oriented, disciplined,
• 43:40
  >> you know, all of that stuff. It
• 43:42
  translates, but it takes a while
• 43:44
  >> to get there and some guys don't get
• 43:46
  there.
• 43:46
  >> Some guys aren't afforded that
• 43:48
  opportunity,
• 43:49
  >> man. Like I live a good life, dude. Like
• 43:52
  doing what we did was hardcore. fighting
• 43:55
  guys, getting concussed, but god we live
• 43:58
  a good life, man.
• 43:59
  >> Oh, yeah. Station, everybody talks.
• 44:01
  >> But that's because you were able to
• 44:03
  figure it out, man.
• 44:03
  >> Figured it out, man.
• 44:04
  >> You got into radio. You got into your
• 44:06
  other podcast. Like all of that stuff.
• 44:08
  You figured it out. Subie got into
• 44:10
  >> You got to be nice to people.
• 44:11
  >> Yeah. Don't be a [ __ ]
• 44:13
  >> Sie got into St. Louis.
• 44:15
  >> Subie had his building knocked over.
• 44:18
  >> Good in St. Louis.
• 44:19
  >> But Subie built, you know, restaurants
• 44:21
  and bars. He's always been doing stuff.
• 44:23
  Twister and did the bars and then got
• 44:26
  into the windshield business which has
• 44:28
  been awesome for him.
• 44:30
  >> Can I tell you though that the the most
• 44:32
  difficult part about that is the trans
• 44:34
  the transition because sympathy and
• 44:36
  empathy are non-existent. No
• 44:39
  >> and and there just it's just not and the
• 44:42
  what's traumatic for people that you
• 44:44
  know what's traumatic to you. I'm
• 44:46
  looking I go put a bandage on it man I
• 44:49
  just can't hear it. I mean I mean
• 44:51
  seriously but it doesn't translate well
• 44:53
  in today's world because it doesn't
• 44:55
  translate well but I mean sometimes they
• 44:58
  put a bandage on it fits but you can't
• 44:59
  be like that and the lack of empathy
• 45:02
  sympathy and just the cuz it it's that
• 45:05
  so hardwired it's the to
• 45:09
  take that out is really difficult and
• 45:12
  I'm still doing it
• 45:12
  >> and to comprehend other people right so
• 45:15
  my brother who played pro hockey
• 45:17
  fortunate to play some games in Tampa we
• 45:19
  always talk about it like general
• 45:21
  population and and it's not that we're
• 45:24
  better just our lives have been
• 45:26
  different just like the military their
• 45:27
  life has been different police like
• 45:28
  everybody has a different story a
• 45:31
  different way of living and so he my
• 45:34
  brother's a successful businessman now
• 45:36
  but like when he started getting into it
• 45:38
  like he'd have employees call in like
• 45:40
  I've got a bit of a headache I can't
• 45:41
  come to work today and he's like are
• 45:43
  what like are you out of your mind you
• 45:46
  know like so the the comprehension of
• 45:48
  other people going through whatever
• 45:49
  whatever they're going through. Like
• 45:51
  we're like, "What? Don't tell me about
• 45:53
  it. I don't want to know you're hurt,
• 45:54
  you're sick, or you're not feeling well.
• 45:56
  Just get to work and do your damn job."
• 45:59
  >> That's not exactly the way general
• 46:01
  population
• 46:03
  >> businesses hire ex-military and ex
• 46:06
  professional athletes because you have
• 46:07
  to go through that
• 46:08
  >> and you're like, I I'll get up at 4:30.
• 46:11
  I I'll get up every [ __ ] morning. The
• 46:12
  two number one things
• 46:14
  >> whatever
• 46:14
  >> when you talk to big corporate people or
• 46:17
  smart businessmen when they look at
• 46:19
  former athletes in general let's just
• 46:21
  keep it to hockey players right now they
• 46:23
  look at it and they have like three
• 46:24
  categories one coachable
• 46:26
  >> coachable they can take direction
• 46:28
  without being buttth hurt
• 46:30
  >> two super competitive they want to win
• 46:33
  or set make the sale or you build the
• 46:35
  best place they can three it's teamwork
• 46:37
  they know how to work within a group to
• 46:39
  not piss off everybody around them and
• 46:41
  they know how to pull their And those
• 46:43
  are three major things
• 46:44
  >> and those are
• 46:45
  >> that anybody's looking for
• 46:46
  >> when I when I when I was showing Richie
• 46:48
  Brothers property because that's how I
• 46:50
  met the guys at Richie Brothers. It was
• 46:51
  like a four-month process and I didn't
• 46:53
  even know they were looking at me to get
• 46:54
  a job. And so I ended up showing them
• 46:57
  the wrong property and oopsies. It was
• 47:01
  so embarrassing.
• 47:03
  >> It was so embarrassing. I didn't really
• 47:04
  know Illinois. I'd only been in the real
• 47:06
  estate industry for 4 months. I really
• 47:08
  had not really been in Illinois. And
• 47:10
  over on the Illinois side, 255 touches
• 47:13
  Route Three twice. And there's two
• 47:15
  little there's two little shells there.
• 47:17
  And and I'm sitting there and I got this
• 47:19
  the vice president of Richie Brothers
• 47:21
  and the senior vice president of Richie
• 47:22
  Brothers and they're looking at the map
• 47:24
  and Nick Nicholson's in the back. He's
• 47:25
  like, "Well, Reed,
• 47:27
  >> oh,
• 47:28
  >> I don't think this is the right
• 47:29
  property." And I'm like, "Oh, like
• 47:31
  this." And I'm like, "Well, how do you
• 47:32
  know?" He's like, "Well, it just doesn't
• 47:33
  look right on the map. Plus, there's not
• 47:35
  a for sale sign anywhere on the
• 47:37
  property." I was like, "Oh my gosh, I
• 47:40
  can't even believe this is happening."
• 47:42
  >> You were able to turn that into a job.
• 47:44
  But this plan works.
• 47:45
  >> Hold on. Let me let me let me get to it.
• 47:47
  So I I go, "Oh, I think I got it." So I
• 47:50
  end we drive to the right property and
• 47:51
  then we're going back and there's a sale
• 47:53
  the next day and they always have a
• 47:54
  customer dinner and I'm like, "I am
• 47:56
  fired. I am fired. I am fired. I want to
• 47:59
  crawl under the steering wheel." So I go
• 48:01
  back there. We're almost to Fesus cuz
• 48:02
  that's where our old uh Richie Brothers
• 48:04
  was. And they're like, "Hey Reed, uh
• 48:06
  we're going out with the customers. we'd
• 48:08
  really like you to join us. I'm like,
• 48:09
  "Oh, call my wife. I'm like, hey, I got
• 48:11
  to go put on some smileys. I got to go.
• 48:13
  The personality's got to come out cuz
• 48:14
  I'm THE SHITTIEST REAL ESTATE AGENT on
• 48:16
  the planet." You know,
• 48:17
  >> parlay it.
• 48:18
  >> So, we did it. We get I get there the
• 48:20
  next morning. We had a fun time. I get
• 48:21
  there the next morning at 7:00 cuz
• 48:23
  that's after their their meetings or
• 48:24
  whatever. And I'm talking to them like,
• 48:25
  "Hey guys, I'm going to go out and look
• 48:26
  at some more properties on the on the on
• 48:29
  the other side. Make sure I get the
• 48:30
  right ones or whatever." So anyways,
• 48:32
  that next we go back after next morning
• 48:35
  he asked me, "Can you meet me at the gas
• 48:36
  station at 6:00?" Why do you meet me at
• 48:39
  S? Well, at Richie Brothers on our
• 48:41
  sales, we have to be there at 6:00 in
• 48:42
  the morning. So, we wanted to see if I
• 48:43
  could get up at 6:00 in the morning and
• 48:45
  meet him.
• 48:46
  >> Go see all these properties that I
• 48:48
  looked at the day before we're driving
• 48:49
  back. He's like, "So, uh, we decided
• 48:52
  that we're not going to give you a
• 48:53
  commission on this and instead we're
• 48:54
  going to give you a job." I go, "What
• 48:56
  are you talking about?" He's like, "We
• 48:58
  just we just think you'd be a great
• 48:59
  addition to the team." And I'm standing
• 49:01
  there talking to him. I said like, "What
• 49:02
  does that thing over there do?" And they
• 49:04
  start laughing. They're like, "Don't
• 49:05
  ever do that." And then I did it all the
• 49:06
  time to MY CUSTOMERS. I EXPLAIN THE
• 49:08
  STORY, RIGHT? BECAUSE,
• 49:09
  >> you know, we got one of those things.
• 49:10
  >> So, I ended up I end up becoming
• 49:12
  literally an expert in equipment cuz I
• 49:14
  just become obsessed with it. Why did
• 49:15
  you ever and and I'll tell you like uh
• 49:18
  it was something there where Nick
• 49:20
  Nicholson um who was like literally like
• 49:22
  fourth in the company. I said, "Why do
• 49:24
  you want to hire me? Like I have no
• 49:26
  sales experience. I have no education. I
• 49:27
  haven't even graduated from high
• 49:29
  school." He said, "Well, first off," he
• 49:30
  said, "number one, you got more sales
• 49:32
  experience than you give yourself credit
• 49:33
  for. You've been selling yourself at the
• 49:35
  highest level hockey, and you made it
• 49:37
  all the way up there." He said, "And
• 49:38
  number two, we don't need you to have
• 49:39
  any experience because we bring these
• 49:41
  guys in from these CAT dealers that
• 49:42
  think they know everything. We've got
• 49:44
  you green as the day is long, and we get
• 49:46
  to teach you. It's going to take us 24
• 49:48
  to 36 months to teach you how to do
• 49:50
  this." and uh we just think you more
• 49:53
  than important than anything is like
• 49:54
  you've showed us over the last four
• 49:56
  months that you have the relationship
• 49:57
  skills needed to go out and sell this
• 49:59
  and I'm like all right let's go. So, I
• 50:01
  had to go to Canada, Vancouver, and all
• 50:03
  hockey fans up there at the Richie
• 50:04
  Brothers headquarters. And I had to go
• 50:06
  through the gauntlet and see the CEO,
• 50:08
  all the presidents, all the everybody.
• 50:10
  And the president of Richie Brothers at
• 50:12
  the time was like, "This is a stupid
• 50:13
  idea. You're hiring some ex hockey
• 50:15
  player." He was so not on board with it.
• 50:17
  Well, we had a thing kind of our
• 50:19
  representation was gross auction
• 50:21
  proceeds. So, how much millions did Reed
• 50:23
  bring? Well, they wanted me to do three
• 50:24
  million. My first year at Richie
• 50:26
  Brothers, I did 14. I won rookie of the
• 50:28
  year for the entire United States. And
• 50:31
  the president that didn't have my back
• 50:33
  or was wanted me to get not get the job
• 50:35
  sent me an email that that January and
• 50:37
  said,
• 50:38
  >> "You proved us wrong, kid. We love you."
• 50:40
  And then by six, seven years later, I
• 50:42
  was running the entire Midwest. We were
• 50:43
  doing $90 million in five. You played in
• 50:46
  the NHL for [ __ ] 10 years. You beat
• 50:48
  the [ __ ] out of people. Go [ __ ] have
• 50:50
  confidence.
• 50:51
  >> It was awesome. They were looking at you
• 50:52
  differently, man. See, that's the thing.
• 50:54
  >> It was such a good team. It was the
• 50:56
  greatest thing that could have ever
• 50:57
  happened to me. I I love my Richie
• 50:59
  Brothers days. Those guys were so
• 51:01
  awesome. It got a little corporate.
• 51:03
  >> I end up moving on. Spent three years at
• 51:05
  the Cat dealership, which was really,
• 51:07
  really awesome. And then after that, I
• 51:08
  thought, I'm just going to go be an
• 51:09
  auctioneer. It's for fun.
• 51:11
  >> Ribs, you mentioned three things. The
• 51:13
  one thing that anybody else may or may
• 51:17
  not have is the opportunity to mix with
• 51:20
  a cult of personalities. So when you're
• 51:22
  traveling on the road, you're you're
• 51:24
  hobbing. You're rubbing shoulders with
• 51:26
  who's who. You're you're you're you have
• 51:28
  to be socially responsible when you're
• 51:32
  in these rooms and you're presented all
• 51:34
  these great opportunities. You can make
• 51:36
  the best or make the worst of them, but
• 51:37
  you're presented in so many different
• 51:39
  rooms where you're rubbing shoulders
• 51:41
  with CEOs, actors, athletes. Well, that
• 51:44
  cult of personality as you watch or
• 51:47
  you're in a group and you're able to see
• 51:49
  how other people navigate. Well, those
• 51:51
  are opportunities of of of a cult of
• 51:53
  personality mixing that not somebody
• 51:55
  else is going to get. And over the
• 51:57
  course of those years, that is what gets
• 51:58
  you hired because you you can navigate a
• 52:01
  room. You can see what you might not
• 52:03
  know what you're talking about, but you
• 52:04
  can still pick up the language and you
• 52:06
  can still put yourself in being quiet
• 52:08
  and you can pick up what and
• 52:10
  >> that's that's the advantage. He's 100%
• 52:13
  right because when you think about a
• 52:15
  hockey locker room, you could have a
• 52:18
  Russian, two checks, a Swedish guy, a
• 52:21
  Canadian, a French guy. Like you have
• 52:23
  all sorts of different backgrounds and
• 52:25
  personalities and things. You got you
• 52:28
  got to make sure you can blend within
• 52:29
  the group. You find your spot first of
• 52:31
  all, but then you got to be able to
• 52:33
  converse and get along and work with all
• 52:35
  these different personalities, cultural
• 52:38
  backgrounds, all [ __ ] So, like Twister
• 52:40
  said, somebody brings you into a room
• 52:42
  full of people. Most of the time, we
• 52:45
  kind of survey, we evaluate, and then we
• 52:47
  kind of know what we're dealing with. I
• 52:49
  mean, I don't know about you guys, but I
• 52:50
  can get into a room of people, and by 10
• 52:53
  minutes, 15 minutes in, I've kind of
• 52:55
  figured out what I'm dealing with. And
• 52:57
  then because we were able to work within
• 52:59
  different groups of our locker room,
• 53:00
  whether it was different coaches who had
• 53:02
  different style, I don't want to say you
• 53:03
  become a chameleon because that kind of
• 53:05
  like makes it sound, but you're able to
• 53:07
  adjust to the group and then still be
• 53:10
  yourself at the same time. And I think
• 53:12
  that's important for a lot of the
• 53:14
  business people is you need someone
• 53:15
  who's flexible but also knows who the
• 53:17
  hell they are. And if they're in sales
• 53:19
  or anything that you're driven at that
• 53:21
  point, you have to be able to read the
• 53:22
  room.
• 53:23
  >> And some people never read the room. We
• 53:26
  all had to figure [ __ ] out.
• 53:27
  >> Yeah.
• 53:27
  >> And you don't know everything.
• 53:29
  >> So remember that.
• 53:30
  >> That you got Okay.
• 53:31
  >> That was a good story though.
• 53:32
  >> How do you How do you read the room with
• 53:34
  that outfit on?
• 53:37
  >> What? My tuxedo.
• 53:38
  >> The room reads him.
• 53:40
  >> I don't know.
• 53:42
  >> You got to get You only have two, so
• 53:44
  we're going to have to get some more.
• 53:45
  >> Yeah, I'm working on a sponsor right
• 53:46
  now.
• 53:47
  >> You see how you see how he's doing this,
• 53:49
  right?
• 53:49
  >> I I want bright orange and black.
• 53:52
  >> Whatever it happens, we won't sponsor
• 53:53
  that.
• 53:54
  >> I won't do it.
• 53:56
  I I see what you I see what you're
• 53:57
  doing, which I think is is amazing.
• 53:59
  You're quietly sitting here
• 54:01
  >> and you're throwing your things back and
• 54:03
  forth and you don't have to put near as
• 54:05
  much in because that suit speaks so much
• 54:07
  for you.
• 54:07
  >> Speak for itself. Hanging out at the
• 54:09
  blue line right now.
• 54:11
  >> There you go.
• 54:11
  >> I'm on the way.
• 54:12
  >> See, that was that's your that's
• 54:14
  classic. You're hanging out in the blue
• 54:15
  line waiting for the pass and you're
• 54:17
  going to
• 54:18
  >> Hey, plenty more to come. By the way,
• 54:20
  all you guys out there that are
• 54:22
  listening right now, we're going to
• 54:23
  [ __ ] We're going to talk about all
• 54:24
  kinds of stuff. We got stories out the
• 54:26
  wazoo. I mean, they just popping our
• 54:27
  heads. So, appreciate appreciate you
• 54:29
  guys listening. This is episode two.
• 54:31
  This is Bare Knuckle Nation, by the way.
• 54:34
  We love all you guys. Wait for uh uh
• 54:37
  episode three coming out next week.
• 54:39
  >> Now, 10 now, 15 now. 20 25.
• 54:43
  Hey, uh love all y'all.