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- 0:12Speaker 2: Earlier in the week, we learned we'd have a new
- 0:14Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby Joyce, rolling Michael McCormack to return
- 0:18Speaker 2: as the Nationals leader and the Deputy Prime Minister, Barnaby
- 0:21Speaker 2: Joyce joins us on the line right now.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Good morning, how are you very well?
- 0:27Speaker 4: Now?
- 0:28Speaker 3: Firstly, you're heading to Darwen on the weekends.
- 0:30Speaker 4: Looking forward to getting up to Darwen. It's the first
- 0:33Speaker 4: trip I make will be to see the good territories
- 0:38Speaker 4: and to basically say gooday, find out what's going on.
- 0:41Speaker 4: And quite obviously I'm going up with my colleague, Senator
- 0:44Speaker 4: Sam McMahon and the colp have one of their serious
- 0:50Speaker 4: functions that determine the direction of the nation and it's
- 0:55Speaker 4: I know that you have some brilliant candidates that will
- 0:58Speaker 4: be part of that reselection process. But I'm a loyal
- 1:04Speaker 4: person and I stick with my mates.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Well, and so is your mate, Senator Sam McMahon. Is
- 1:09Speaker 2: that who you'll be sticking with?
- 1:11Speaker 4: I think it's important that. Yes, Look, I get along
- 1:14Speaker 4: very well Sam. I think that the reason the Northern
- 1:16Speaker 4: Territory has two seats is because of the efforts of
- 1:21Speaker 4: Sam McMahon, and otherwise you would only have one Federal
- 1:23Speaker 4: seat in camera. And that's just one example. Her support
- 1:27Speaker 4: of life cattle trade, her support of development of the
- 1:30Speaker 4: Northern Territory, her support of proper representation down here, her style,
- 1:35Speaker 4: which is very territory and it's robust and to the point,
- 1:41Speaker 4: is important. And this is not to diminish from other candidates,
- 1:47Speaker 4: you know, but you can't. You can't go to the
- 1:48Speaker 4: races and back every horse, and you've got to decide
- 1:53Speaker 4: which one you want to back. And I know we
- 1:57Speaker 4: have other we have other seats that are going to
- 1:59Speaker 4: come up into play. We've got obviously Warren's resigning from
- 2:06Speaker 4: Lingiari and Solomon's is always a tight run thing. So
- 2:10Speaker 4: a good candidates who might be might succeed in the
- 2:13Speaker 4: Senate race, would be excellent candidates in other seats that
- 2:18Speaker 4: we must win if we are to remain the government.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Well, Barnaby, I like what you said there.
- 2:24Speaker 2: You can't back every horse in a race, but you can,
- 2:27Speaker 2: you know, usually it's hard it is pretty hard sometimes
- 2:29Speaker 2: to work out which horse you're going to back, and
- 2:32Speaker 2: in this situation, Senator Sam McMahon is up against some
- 2:36Speaker 2: pretty tough challenges from the likes of just Enter Price,
- 2:40Speaker 2: who is liberal aligned. Is that why you're going down
- 2:44Speaker 2: the path of backing Senator Sam mcmahont Well, the last.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Thing I'd ever do is diminish with an incredibly decent
- 2:51Speaker 4: and hard working person, and what a great candidate just
- 2:56Speaker 4: in the Prices the first and foremost. You know, new
- 3:01Speaker 4: friends of silver and old friends of gold, and you've
- 3:04Speaker 4: got to make sure that it would be to be
- 3:08Speaker 4: frank a little bit treacherous with me to decide I'd
- 3:11Speaker 4: step away from a colleague and show support for someone else,
- 3:15Speaker 4: because one is the person you've worked with, who's worked
- 3:21Speaker 4: with me doing such things as securing two seats in
- 3:25Speaker 4: the Northern Territory, doing such things as standing side by
- 3:28Speaker 4: side with me when we've been fighting issues such as
- 3:31Speaker 4: making sure they don't journey back into a closure of
- 3:35Speaker 4: the live cattle trade, fighting for issues that bring about
- 3:39Speaker 4: the development of the Northern territories through the Northern Australia Policy.
- 3:44Speaker 4: That's the person I work with and I find no
- 3:48Speaker 4: fault in the person in Sam McMahon, So why would
- 3:51Speaker 4: I be supporting anybody else.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Don't usually look too much on Twitter it's but it
- 3:57Speaker 2: is an area that over the weekend there was some
- 3:59Speaker 2: twe it's from a journalist who'd heard a National Centers
- 4:02Speaker 2: accounting the votes on the weekend at Perisher doing the
- 4:06Speaker 2: numbers for you? Was Senator Sam McMahon doing the numbers
- 4:09Speaker 2: for you on the weekend.
- 4:11Speaker 4: I can honestly say this, I have no knowledge of
- 4:13Speaker 4: that whatsoever. Now, the way it works, you never ever
- 4:19Speaker 4: do the numbers yourself, if there's such a thing, because
- 4:23Speaker 4: the only answer you ever get is I'll vote for you.
- 4:26Speaker 4: And so if other people elsewhere were trying to guess,
- 4:31Speaker 4: because that's all you can do, guess, because no one
- 4:34Speaker 4: ever knows people walking into the room, they make their
- 4:35Speaker 4: own mind up, then I mean, I wouldn't be surprised
- 4:39Speaker 4: if build every person in any political party and any
- 4:44Speaker 4: suggestion of a change that sits down somewhere and starts
- 4:47Speaker 4: trying to work out the numbers. Would I mean, tell
- 4:50Speaker 4: me one workplace where people don't talk about who the
- 4:53Speaker 4: next boss is going to be.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Well, I guess the question here is though, should she
- 4:57Speaker 2: have been in Perisher doing the numbers for you or
- 5:00Speaker 2: should you have been here in the territory doing the
- 5:02Speaker 2: numbers for uself for the weekend.
- 5:05Speaker 4: Well, that is an issue that a lot of us
- 5:11Speaker 4: have to contend with, which is between sitting weeks. Between
- 5:14Speaker 4: sitting weeks, do you go home to be there for
- 5:17Speaker 4: I drive? If I drove home, I literally won't even
- 5:20Speaker 4: get a night at home. I'd have to turn around
- 5:22Speaker 4: and start driving back. And so seven hundred and seventy
- 5:25Speaker 4: kilometers to home takes them two days to get there
- 5:27Speaker 4: with the kids in the car. By the time I
- 5:28Speaker 4: get home, it's time to get back. And the other thing,
- 5:31Speaker 4: of course, with COVID, people are terrified right now I'm
- 5:34Speaker 4: going too far away from Canberra because if something goes wrong,
- 5:37Speaker 4: you can't get back to work. And then you're doing
- 5:39Speaker 4: this doing it via video. And I'll tell you right now,
- 5:42Speaker 4: that is very second. That is very secondary, very secondary
- 5:47Speaker 4: to actually being there yourself.
- 5:51Speaker 2: All right, Bobby, Let's talk about a couple of issues
- 5:53Speaker 2: which are high on the agenda here in the Northern
- 5:55Speaker 2: Territory and in other farming regions in Australia. One of
- 5:59Speaker 2: those is the workers shortage. We've spoken to nt farmers
- 6:03Speaker 2: on numerous occasions about this and the problem is getting
- 6:05Speaker 2: more acute. They're ready to bring a group of one
- 6:08Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six workers from Vanawatu needed to fill
- 6:11Speaker 2: some of those fruit picker jobs for an upcoming mango season,
- 6:15Speaker 2: but the problem is there's nowhere for them to quarantine
- 6:18Speaker 2: at this point. Or they're certainly waiting to see whether
- 6:21Speaker 2: they can get approval for some of the quarantine ideas
- 6:24Speaker 2: that they've got. NTA farmers have put in proposals for
- 6:28Speaker 2: Blade and Point or for Howard Springs, but realistically they
- 6:32Speaker 2: can't wait too much longer.
- 6:34Speaker 3: What do you reckon needs to happen here?
- 6:37Speaker 4: Well, one of the big things that the National Party
- 6:39Speaker 4: supports is an egg visa, and an egg visa is
- 6:42Speaker 4: going to be essential because there are so many areas.
- 6:45Speaker 4: I've had people from as far south as the seed
- 6:47Speaker 4: of Seed of Nickels in New South Wales. I've had
- 6:50Speaker 4: meat workers' unions coming to see me. I've had people
- 6:54Speaker 4: on farms in the western districts, people in the territory
- 6:57Speaker 4: and they all say the same thing. If we don't
- 6:59Speaker 4: have foreign workers, none of us have a job and
- 7:01Speaker 4: so we've got to try and get these tho when
- 7:03Speaker 4: so you know, we got I think we've got to
- 7:04Speaker 4: look down the path of ag visas and realize that
- 7:08Speaker 4: this is not taking Australian jobs. This is the reason
- 7:12Speaker 4: Australians keep their jobs, because there is jobs that Australians
- 7:14Speaker 4: just don't want to do.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Well.
- 7:16Speaker 2: When we had the Prime Minister in the studio not
- 7:18Speaker 2: too long ago, he spoke, well, we all spoke about
- 7:21Speaker 2: this proposal to use bladan Point. But there does seem
- 7:24Speaker 2: to be some hurdles with this facility. I mean, does
- 7:28Speaker 2: the federal government maybe need to look at providing some
- 7:31Speaker 2: more support though, because I take on board what you're
- 7:33Speaker 2: saying about those ag visas. But right now, you know,
- 7:36Speaker 2: we need to sort something out pretty well straight away
- 7:38Speaker 2: so that these mangoes don't rot on the ground.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Yes, we have to move as quickly as we possibly can.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Now I don't know about I know who I'm going
- 7:47Speaker 4: to get the pronunciation right right, bladon Point, you got
- 7:50Speaker 4: it right. So so I can't comment on that, you
- 7:55Speaker 4: know the efficacy of that. I can say that we
- 7:58Speaker 4: should have substantial uarantine facilities that enable for this pandemic
- 8:03Speaker 4: and undoubtedly others or variants are the ones we've got
- 8:06Speaker 4: to be dealt with in the future. And I think
- 8:08Speaker 4: that's the sort of direction everybody's going now. It's a
- 8:11Speaker 4: decision of the National Cabinet and they work that out
- 8:15Speaker 4: amongst themselves, but it's we've got to get workers in.
- 8:19Speaker 4: I mean, there is going to be I think in
- 8:22Speaker 4: the long term people are going to have to realize
- 8:25Speaker 4: that with vaccinations, we're living with the virus. We're not
- 8:27Speaker 4: getting rid of the virus because it's in many instances
- 8:32Speaker 4: inoperable on an economic basis. Without without there being the
- 8:37Speaker 4: movement not only of goods, but the movement of people
- 8:39Speaker 4: and such as ways you can do the jobs that
- 8:41Speaker 4: need to be done.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Barnaby, we are fast running out of time.
- 8:44Speaker 2: But I do want to ask you if you're going
- 8:47Speaker 2: to bring back your plan for a special Northern Australia
- 8:51Speaker 2: tax zone.
- 8:53Speaker 4: I've always supported a form of don't or taxation. I
- 8:56Speaker 4: think that we also also should have which is unanimous
- 9:00Speaker 4: policy of the National Party regional senators rather than I
- 9:03Speaker 4: know the territory and it gets two and that's probably
- 9:05Speaker 4: a good example, but rather than twelve senators per state
- 9:09Speaker 4: across the Road and Queensland and twelve senators per state.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Across the other road in West Australia, there should be
- 9:14Speaker 4: six regions within those states with two senators per region,
- 9:18Speaker 4: because that would give the Northern Territory the fellow travelers
- 9:22Speaker 4: in Northern Queensland and northern Western Australia. So when he
- 9:27Speaker 4: came to Cambridge to work as a block, well.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Look, I guess there are all things that we need
- 9:32Speaker 2: to look at. There's no doubt though, we want to
- 9:34Speaker 2: try and get more people living in regional Australia, don't we,
- 9:36Speaker 2: And places like the Northern Territory and the North you know,
- 9:40Speaker 2: whether you're talking about North Queensland or the Northern Territory,
- 9:43Speaker 2: we do want more people living in areas like this
- 9:46Speaker 2: rather than clogging up capital cities.
- 9:49Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is one of the diamonds we've got.
- 9:51Speaker 4: People in Sydney don't want any more people and people
- 9:53Speaker 4: in regional areas are screaming out for them. In Tamworth,
- 9:57Speaker 4: we always talk about ourselves as the whereas my local
- 10:00Speaker 4: lectures the nine country music capital, but protein capital of
- 10:03Speaker 4: Australia if it's an animal protein and Tamworth's had a
- 10:08Speaker 4: huge role on that if Tamwin's on the production, if
- 10:11Speaker 4: the meat workers and the sheet workers and the poultry
- 10:13Speaker 4: workers and the egg workers aren't work, then a large
- 10:16Speaker 4: section of Australia doesn't need eighty percent of the meat
- 10:19Speaker 4: and Wolworths with Lord and Tamworth and so it's it's
- 10:23Speaker 4: and for that to work, we need foreign workers.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Barnaby, can I just ask you finally, are we going
- 10:29Speaker 2: to are we going to be keeping Keith peat as
- 10:32Speaker 2: the Minister for Northern Australia.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Well, I never litigate. I never litigate cabinet positions on radio.
- 10:40Speaker 4: That would be the extraordinarily rude and exceptionally stupid. So
- 10:46Speaker 4: you know, we talk about all these things in the
- 10:49Speaker 4: course of time and with the people who had affects.
- 10:53Speaker 2: We'll always ask thy mate, We'll always ask Barnaby Joyce,
- 10:56Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia. Good to catch up
- 10:59Speaker 2: with you, and and well, I hope you have a
- 11:02Speaker 2: good time here in the Northern Territory. I believe you're
- 11:04Speaker 2: good friends with one of our mates that's on the
- 11:06Speaker 2: show very regularly, Dave Tolner.
- 11:09Speaker 4: Yes, that is dangerously good friends with dangerous Dave dangerous.
- 11:13Speaker 3: I worry I worry about you pairs together.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, thanks so much for your time this morning
- 11:19Speaker 4: Good one, thank you,