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A Bad Berlin Nightclub Version · I Think Less of You Podcast

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  Likely one of the only people in America who was sitting
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  listening to Eurovision.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that on the television right now?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I was listening to the song that I want to win but won't win.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I am aware of ABBA.
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  SPEAKER_01: as having come out of Eurovision.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: No one in America cares about Eurovision.
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  SPEAKER_01: Eurovision apparently exists to specifically exclude America.
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  It's this weird,
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  desperate gasp for relevancy by the culturally dominated of the
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  world.
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  No,
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  that's literally what the competition is for because the only
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  way you can take on
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  the American Recording Industry Complex is to like join your
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  entire continent and
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  people who aren't even a part of your continent like Australia
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  together in to help
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  you try to break into our into our music I will say I have been
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  a really big fan of
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  Israel's entry it is a bop I listen to it nonstop I have been
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  since before we went
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  SPEAKER_00: to Armenia
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  I Love Michelle it is such a good song it's in French English
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  and Hebrew great song
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  perfect summer bop it will not win because it's Israel I don't
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  understand why
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  England is even I don't even understand why England is in
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  Eurovision if that's the
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  case they have no trouble breaking into the American market the
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  American market
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  SPEAKER_01: loves them some British performers and has for decades
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  The funniest thing about England's entry is the song is called
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  Eins by Dre and it
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  is a very like Berlin club style hit it's kind of so this is
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  British music history
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  you will not care about there was a band called The Streets
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  that I used to like
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  SPEAKER_00: there was a song called Fit But Don't You Know It You Would Hate It
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  I am guessing you would hear it and be like,
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  my ears are bleeding out of my head.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's very like British white guy rap.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is amazing.
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  The video for Fit But Don't You Know It is probably visually
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  the best video that
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  SPEAKER_00: has ever been made ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone look it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the streets.
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  SPEAKER_00: You will make fun of my music taste after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, Einspye Dry is like a British, a bad movie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Berlin Club throwback to the streets.
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  SPEAKER_00: The guy's just making fun of me.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like,
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  SPEAKER_00: when I'm really upset,
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  if only there was a language I could count in that makes me
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  feel better because
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  SPEAKER_00: it's such a funny sounding language.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then he just...
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  SPEAKER_00: raps in German.
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  Yeah,
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  he starts counting in German and talks about how German is such
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  a funny sounding language.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, it actually kind of hits.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to back up.
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  The best music video ever made was the music video that the
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  Squirrel Nut Zippers
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  SPEAKER_01: made for their song,
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  SPEAKER_01: The Suits Are Picking Up the Bill.
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  SPEAKER_01: Possibly second best is Cab Calloway in the Mini the Moocher.
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  SPEAKER_01: music video with Betty Boop and what was her boyfriend's name?
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember if she was the dog that was her boyfriend.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what to say to this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our references aren't even on the same planet.
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  SPEAKER_01: The Cab Calloway ones are real,
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  but I do have to give the edge to the suits are picking up the
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  bill by squirrel nut
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  SPEAKER_01: zippers Okay there?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been a hard one for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be nice to me today.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't want me to start crying again.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, because if I'm nice to you, you'll start crying.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was crying when we started this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like how unhinged it is too.
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  SPEAKER_00: We start these.
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  I always give you a link and it takes you like 40 minutes to do
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  whatever it is you
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  SPEAKER_00: do to get yourself ready to record.
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  and I was totally fine and you click on the minute I like open
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  a bad text from a
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  SPEAKER_00: friend and I was bawling crying and you're like,
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  SPEAKER_00: we don't have to do this today.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to find you in times you're not bawling crying though.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am a very emotional person.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're a very emotional person.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wear my emotions on my sleep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people say it's performative.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_01: You are outwardly perform your emotions.
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  It makes it sound fake though You infer all sorts of things
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  which are not intended
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  That's your choice Okay but it does make it sound fake Like
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  when you say someone's
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  performing They're like acting at doing something Whereas me
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  being an emotional
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  psychopath Just spills all over I don't see it as that It's not
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  like a choice I'm
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  SPEAKER_00: not like trying to be No Crazy It just happens
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  The Eurovision Is It's A Big News Story They're All Being Angry
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  I Gather Because
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  The Israelis Had The Temerity To Campaign For Their As All The
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  Countries Do To
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  Campaign For Their Choice I Believe It Is Focused Because
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  Multiple European Nations
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  Are Not Participating This Year Because Of Israel's Inclusion I
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  Think Is Ireland
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  SPEAKER_00: And Slovakia Spain Spain
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  Hungary is not participating in Eurovision this year,
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  but it has nothing to do with Israel.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's because they decided that their entrant was too gay,
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  SPEAKER_00: to which I have to say,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's Eurovision.
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  The competition brought us ABBA,
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  so I don't know that you understand Eurovision.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I said,
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  SPEAKER_01: ABBA is literally,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think,
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  SPEAKER_01: the only thing,
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  I think that a lot of Americans aren't necessarily even aware
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  that ABBA came out of
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  SPEAKER_01: Eurovision.
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  Yeah But I am aware that they became popular because of
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  Eurovision Well That is the
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  only thing I know about Eurovision I don't know who has ever
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  won since I assume
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  SPEAKER_01: other people have won Italy has been on a
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  Italy has had a string they had a group called Maniskin come
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  out a while ago
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  they're kind of a rock like they were really good I actually
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  really liked them um I
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  still listen to quite a bit of their music and they came out so
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  right but I
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  actually I'm like there's a lot of EDM and you hate EDM so like
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  you're not gonna
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  SPEAKER_00: like it um Israel's song is a little dancey um
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of the songs are like ballads.
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  Like Croatia's song is a historic ballad about Christian women
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  being enslaved by Turks.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've heard it was very...
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  Using to tattoo their faces so they didn't have to be sex
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  slaves to Turks.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've heard the Croatian entry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've heard the Croatian entry was very...
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  SPEAKER_01: So...
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  I listened to the Croatian song and I don't speak Croatian so I
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  had no idea that
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  that's what it was about and I will say like musically it it
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  wasn't from it's just
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  a really dark like keening and plaintiff it's a very Balkan
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  like dark ballad and
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  that's not my lane the message behind it awesome I think it's
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  great I think we
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  SPEAKER_00: should
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  at every moment make everything about calling out,
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  you know,
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  Turkish genocides.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they won't win, but... How are songs chosen?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this like each country has their version of the Grammys,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever wins the Grammy gets sent to the Eurovision?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's basically,
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  I don't know the rules for like how popular you can be because
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  obviously you don't
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  SPEAKER_00: have...
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  It's supposed to be like the traditional Olympics Yeah It's
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  kind of like up and
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  coming Yeah There are older acts There are younger acts There I
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  think Israel's act
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  I've heard of Noam before So He's not totally unheard of But
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  like he's newer On the
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  scene Yeah I knew of one of his songs before Because I do
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  listen to some Israeli
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  SPEAKER_00: music Because I'm weird and Listen to a lot of non-English music Yeah
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  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of them are like,
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  you do a national competition and then you go up through it and
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  that's who is
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  SPEAKER_00: picked.
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  SPEAKER_00: Different countries do it different ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you watched the hit show,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I know you will not have seen at all,
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  SPEAKER_00: any of it,
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  SPEAKER_00: Emily in Paris,
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  there is a storyline where her friend Mindy is competing for
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  France in Eurovision
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  SPEAKER_00: one year.
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  SPEAKER_00: And
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  the fact that Israel is putting money behind their contestant
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  all you have to do is
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  watch an episode of Emily in Paris that came out like two or
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  three years ago
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  talking about how France was putting in millions of dollars
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  behind their Eurovision
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  entry team like this is a known thing there are American
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  sitcoms made about how
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  SPEAKER_00: countries put money behind their Eurovision entrance so the
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  The whole hubbub about Israel trying to buy their place is
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  completely moronic,
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  super stupid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at Greece.
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  Greece has put a ton of money into backing their song,
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  Ferto,
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  which...
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  Ferto?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's the song name.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's chaotic.
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  SPEAKER_00: You would hate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hate most modern music.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you would totally hate...
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  SPEAKER_00: Finland is top to win.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you would totally hate theirs,
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  SPEAKER_00: mostly because it is a little dancey,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's a little ballady.
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  SPEAKER_00: Does it have a melody?
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  SPEAKER_01: I just need a melody.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so Finland's does.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I would say that Greece's does.
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  SPEAKER_00: Israel's definitely does.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love the melody of Israel's.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not going to win.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're up there.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like in fourth place, which is higher than I would expect.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's probably like audience votes, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, they are audience votes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have, and here's the thing, you have to pay for the votes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is so not an American thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We would never.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I wanted to vote, which I will not, it's like 99 cents euro.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you get like 10 votes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: A bunch of Iranians are actually...
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  Logging in and like Israel is being propped up by Iranian votes
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  right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because... Is it like Olive Branch being sent by Iran to Israel?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, Iranian people that don't like the regime.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
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  You know,
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  who listen to pop music,
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  who are into like dance music and all of these things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it is a built-in anti-regime audience.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it actually totally makes sense that they would be...
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a...
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  SPEAKER_01: What's that show?
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  Invincible on Amazon Prime,
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  the cartoon about this superhero kid and his father.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's now a meme that is the father who is voiced by J.K. Simmons.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who voices the son.
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  The father and the son flying along and the father is pointing
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  over to a guy,
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  SPEAKER_01: to a,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: flying a superhero,
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  SPEAKER_01: basically Superman.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's pointing over to a human soldier,
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  SPEAKER_01: regular human soldier in like a,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: flying suit.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's saying to his son,
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  Look At What They Have To Do To Mirror Even A Fraction Of Our
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  Power This Is What I
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  Feel About Eurovision This Is This Is This Is They Go Through
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  All Of This To Ape A
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  Vague Tiny Minuscule Simulacrum Of American Cultural Hegemony
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  Well In Some Cases I
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  SPEAKER_00: Think It's Nice Like
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  the Croatian song wouldn't have a forum if it wasn't for things
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  like this I
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  actually like music from around the world so I really enjoy it
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  but I mean I like
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  modern American music for the most part you don't like American
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  music at all like
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  this is the funny thing no no this is not true this is not true
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  I like lots of
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  SPEAKER_00: American music I don't like most modern okay okay
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  Squirrel Nut Zippers They're Fairly Modern They're Still Out
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  There Touring Squirrel
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  SPEAKER_01: Nut Zippers Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Still Out There Touring Every Year
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  Would not have loved the conversation I had with my husband
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  just yesterday.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were talking about,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: 90s bands or something,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he was like,
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  SPEAKER_00: ugh,
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  SPEAKER_00: do you remember the swing moment?
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  SPEAKER_00: And he was like,
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  SPEAKER_00: Brian Seltzer Orchestra,
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  SPEAKER_00: Squirrel Duts at first,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he was going off on how much he hated that moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: My wife,
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  SPEAKER_01: you better delete this,
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  because you have no idea how much respect my wife will have
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  lost for your husbands.
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  From that statement We are both big into swig revival stuff We
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  did swing dancing in
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  college I'm just saying Your husband is a fool I loved all that
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  stuff He's a prince
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  now He's not a king anymore He just got downgraded He's ripping
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  on squirrel nut
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  zippers Downgraded to prince He better watch his back He'll be
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  a duke next He
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  SPEAKER_00: better watch his back as wild laughter
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  SPEAKER_00: Luke listens to a lot of really good music.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was not on board for the swing revival of the 90s.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a shame.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a real shame.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, but then you don't have to be married to him.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that is true.
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  SPEAKER_01: My wife would not be cool with that.
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  Well,
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  I do think she might be a little bothered if you were married
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  to my husband.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that would be a little weird.
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  I haven't asked her about her thoughts on this,
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  but I think I can intuit them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know that you hold him in such high esteem.
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  I have to give you these little nuggets sometimes to,
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  like,
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  keep you in check.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: A little less esteem now, if I'm being honest.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have personally gone to see Big Bad Voodoo Daddy live.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: As has my wife, which we went separately at different times.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have seen Squirrel Nut Zippers live when they got back together,
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  SPEAKER_01: and I actually drove quite a ways,
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  SPEAKER_01: and then her and I went and saw Squirrel Nut Zippers.
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  this was back all right back before uh Jimbo Mathis and
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  Catherine Whalen who uh
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  were the uh she's the female singer the lead singer he was the
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  oh I thought Jimbo
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  was the female lead they were uh they were I don't know if
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  they're married they're
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  in a relationship they broke up and that's why the band broke
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  up and they briefly
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  they got the band back together and were touring for a little
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  bit and that that was
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  SPEAKER_01: that was when I saw them it was it was a really really nice experience um
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone should experience going to a show like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: A good show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not like the horrible stuff you go to.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just god-awful.
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  SPEAKER_01: God-awful shows.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about a band getting back together.
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  SPEAKER_00: I only went to like the most famous band getting back together.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Outkast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: They're terrible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Outkast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oasis.
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  SPEAKER_00: My God.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Outkast and Oasis are the same picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not even close, you wild man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  They're the same because I've never heard either I've heard
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  Wonderwall Oasis did
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  Wonderwall Champagne Supernova I've only heard Wonderwall I
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  listened to it once,
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  it's not good Don't Look Back in Anger is my favorite Or
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  Cigarettes and Alcohol Or
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  SPEAKER_00: In the Bushes Gotta bleep that Why?
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  SPEAKER_01: I self-bleeped Oh, I see Obscene, I'm sure
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Effin' in the Bushes is the name of the song.
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  That is the sort of bawdy bawdy title I'd expect from a group
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  called Outkast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's Oasis.
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  And also Red Steez's like podcast intro music is based off
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  Effin' in the Bushes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not very good intro music.
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  SPEAKER_01: I actually don't like it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I chose ours.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ours is great.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nice jazz bass.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, you took the claim for it, and that's all I need.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what is this chud thing you keep telling me about?
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  SPEAKER_00: You keep talking about chud, and I...
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  SPEAKER_00: Just background for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have some personal stuff, a big loss from some friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I have been a little out of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Lee is going to explain this to me.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: So Chud the Builder, he goes by.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think his real name is Derek or something.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: He goes by Chud the Builder.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Derek is the most Chud name, just as an aside.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: I had to look up what Chud actually stood for.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: It seems to just be like kind of or it doesn't say what it means.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's just kind of like a dismissive term for a incel sort of.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a Chop Chad.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that means.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you know what a Chad is, right?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: I know the meme.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like the big burly guy.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: So being chopped is like, okay, this is youth lingo.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is me translating the kid speak for you.
• 18:27
  So being chopped is like funny looking or like ugly or there's
• 18:31
  something wrong with you.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Busted.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, a Chud is like a busted Chad.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, this guy goes by Chud the Builder.
• 18:41
  Apparently his shtick is he goes and yells racial epithets at
• 18:48
  African American
• 18:49
  gentlemen in urban areas until he can get them to come up and
• 18:55
  fight him and then he
• 18:55
  mocks them online for having fought him So apparently some guy
• 19:01
  came up and fought
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: him and then Chud the Builder shot him
• 19:07
  He deleted a tweet where he put before this saying that
• 19:17
  tonight's episode was going
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: to end with a black gentleman dead on the ground,
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: basically.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's premeditated.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the lawyers are going to have a great time with us.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway,
• 19:33
  he is now the people I saw Sam Stein over at the Bulwark is now
• 19:38
  saying that he
• 19:40
  publicizing a Bulwark article saying Chud the Builder was is
• 19:44
  the rights new rising
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: superstar.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, he's a he's not on the right.
• 19:51
  Nobody On The Like He's Some Kind Of Weird Groyper Freak Nobody
• 19:55
  Actually Is
• 19:56
  Actually On The Right For The Most Part Has Heard Of This Man
• 19:59
  Most Of I Travel In
• 20:01
  An Older Circle On Twitter Obviously But Most Of The But A Very
• 20:06
  Conservative Circle
• 20:07
  Very Right Circle No One Had Heard Of Him No Also Chud Is A
• 20:15
  Like As I Just Did
• 20:17
  Gave Through Kids Speak Like Chud Isn't A Term That People Use
• 20:24
  Yeah Well Like The
• 20:26
  Zoomer Term Well It's Also A Specifically Like Right Wing
• 20:32
  Zoomer Term Like Right
• 20:34
  Wing People Don't Like Chuds No No But I Think His Nate Like
• 20:40
  It's Like It's Our
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Word Now Reclamation Project Thing I Think Of Like You Know Now
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: What if the people have to be so weird and racist and creepy?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have an answer to that question.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: There are so many things online.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like,
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: we see stuff like this,
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: and we are always asked,
• 21:02
  and it kind of sounds like you're getting to this at the
• 21:05
  Bulwark and their
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: pressure.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we are forced
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: to account for every freaking obscure weirdo who might have any sort of
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: right-leaning inclination ever.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: We have to like constantly apologize for all of that.
• 21:24
  Meanwhile,
• 21:25
  you have like Hassan Piker and you have Mamdani's wife making
• 21:31
  Palestine playlists and
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, she made an anti-Israel playlist.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: It was not pro-Palestinian.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: It was anti-Israel.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: These are similar but very different things.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, that's true.
• 21:49
  We have to line up to apologize for every time Candace Owens
• 21:56
  opens her mouth.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: It is a problem for the Democratic Party that in the past...
• 22:06
  I Think Probably Going Back Further Than This But Certainly
• 22:08
  With In The Past Few
• 22:10
  Months The Normie Right Has Started Asserting Itself Pretty
• 22:14
  Hard And The Weirdo
• 22:17
  Left And I'm Sorry The Fringe Weirdo Right Is Getting Pushed
• 22:23
  Out I Mean You Have
• 22:24
  Tom Thomas Massey Is Getting Pushed Like Trump Has Basically
• 22:31
  Put A Hit Out On His
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Political Career And
• 22:35
  and you have just a lot of there is it's just getting normie
• 22:40
  core again which I I
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: have said before
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: I have stood in the same political place this entire time.
• 22:48
  When the right went completely all to the hardcore MAGA,
• 22:53
  I was right where I am.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Trump does some stuff that I'm okay with.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: He does a lot of crazy stuff, too.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:03
  And now it's all swinging back towards me,
• 23:05
  and I'm just in the same place.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's great.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Standing still is...
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: a very conservative trait, if I do say so myself.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: I go back and forth.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I get a little libertarian-y.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you shouldn't do that.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: Libertarians are terrible.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: They're basically liberals.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know this.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: They're liberals in all but names.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not super libertarian-y on...
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very libertarian-y when it comes to economic issues.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: But then, you know...
• 23:36
  Then They Just All Become Crazy Crazy Racists And You're Like
• 23:41
  And I'm Getting Off I
• 23:42
  Am Much Less Libertarian Now Than I Was When I Was Younger When
• 23:46
  I Was Younger I Was
• 23:46
  Significantly More Libertarian I Am By The Way It's Funny That
• 23:51
  You Refer To
• 23:51
  Yourself As Being Libertarian Given That You Also Refer To
• 23:53
  Yourself As Being A
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Monarchist I Know It's A Real Here's The Thing I
• 24:05
  I Think That People Should Be Given The Right To Govern
• 24:09
  Themselves Except For The
• 24:11
  Fact That I Feel Like Humans Are Deeply Deeply Stupid And Will
• 24:17
  Always Pick The
• 24:17
  Wrong Thing The Paradox A Paradox A Paradox Of Most Ingenious
• 24:22
  Paradox Oh My God Do
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: You Know What That's From You Don't Know What That's From
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: My brain is in like four different places right now.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know it's great when someone says they don't know something,
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: you just keep saying it over and over.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's the Pirates of Penzance by Gilbert and Sullivan.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: How do you not know that?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you gave me enough time, I probably would have.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Love me some Gilbert and Sullivan.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: They would win Eurovision if they were around now.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: I guarantee you.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: They're flamboyant enough for sure.
• 25:01
  Just Saying No Like But Eurovision Is Not To Take Us Back To
• 25:07
  Eurovision But
• 25:08
  Eurovision Is Like Also About The Pageantry Of It It's Also
• 25:12
  About The Show That You
• 25:13
  Put On And Yeah It's About Being A Cultural Also Iran The
• 25:18
  Global Stage Sad Just Sad
• 25:21
  I Think The Koreans Are Probably More The South Koreans Are
• 25:24
  Probably More Globally
• 25:25
  Relevant Than Pretty Much Anyone In Europe Oh No But That's
• 25:29
  Like Not A Question
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, scroll through Netflix.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's all like,
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: I do have to say,
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: my daughter's super into,
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: my daughter's really into K-pop.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: And my kids, my kids are into anime and only certain anime, though.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was never a fan of anime.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even like, I kind of liked, do you remember David the Gnome?
• 25:56
  David the Gnome was,
• 25:57
  I think,
• 25:57
  a lot of,
• 25:58
  I'm pretty sure that was Japanese originally.
• 26:00
  But I remember when I was young A lot of the Japanese shows
• 26:04
  started to appear And I
• 26:06
  didn't like the animations The animation stuff is so weird And
• 26:10
  they always have the
• 26:10
  giant eyes I've always said that I feel like That's what
• 26:13
  Japanese people think we
• 26:14
  look like That we have like these giant wondering eyes
• 26:17
  constantly Some people do
• 26:22
  It's true I in fact do have very large wondering eyes And high
• 26:27
  cheeks like a baby
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I did.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: I have a lazy eye.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say it.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: I have one little squatty eye.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Are you just wearing glasses for that?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: The correct for that?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: You don't wear them?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-mm.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, I do have them, though.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: They have a prism, so it's, like, really thick.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my glasses.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: I wear contacts.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: You see me wear glasses.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: I wear them sometimes.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't note.
• 26:56
  You just look great all the time so I don't really think about
• 27:01
  it Okay Before we
• 27:06
  started recording I commented that I noticed you didn't bother
• 27:11
  to dress up for me
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: You basically said I look like shit That's okay I am
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: I am in a hoodie.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've showered for like three days.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, God.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't need to know that.
• 27:30
  Well,
• 27:32
  I get into these weird phases where I'm shooting a lot of
• 27:36
  content for my site.
• 27:37
  I'm like cooking nonstop and I legitimately am just the most
• 27:42
  disgusting person right now.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: The.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: My poor husband.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm sure he loves you anyway.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I have to fry fish today, so we'll put that there.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: You're sleeping elsewhere.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I might be sleeping here in my office tonight.
• 28:03
  Yeah,
• 28:04
  so Chud the Builder,
• 28:06
  stupid,
• 28:07
  stupid person,
• 28:07
  did a stupid,
• 28:08
  stupid thing.
• 28:09
  There are people on the right who are tangentially on the right
• 28:14
  who are like rooting for him.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: I've never heard of this person.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: I hope to never hear of him again.
• 28:21
  I've seen a GoFundMe forum pop up a few times because he's
• 28:23
  probably going to prison
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: for 25 years.
• 28:26
  because he should he shot someone and announced he was going to
• 28:30
  on the internet
• 28:31
  like yeah no that's and he thought deleting the tweet he's 28
• 28:36
  it's not like this is
• 28:37
  like some 18 year old influencer I looked it up he's 28 years
• 28:40
  old he's not even
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: clavicular whatever that nonsense he's not even clavicular
• 28:46
  Oh My Gosh Can We Just Stop With All Of These So I Think That
• 28:53
  The A Lot Of People
• 28:55
  On The Right Like To Mock These People Because Again The
• 28:59
  Gripers Are Not In Fact On
• 29:01
  The Right No Like They Don't Really Consider Those They Have At
• 29:04
  Times Aligned
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Somewhat With The Right Or Claimed To
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: But also they don't most of the time.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they're not of the right.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're not on the right.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing conservative about them.
• 29:17
  No one on the right who is normally in any even the fringy
• 29:22
  right for the most part
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: finds them somewhat repugnant.
• 29:26
  Can I just say one of the things that I'm really bothered by
• 29:31
  when I say like we
• 29:32
  have to call out all of the weirdos that might be even slightly
• 29:37
  on our side.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:39
  the right has that and I'm glad that we do have a mechanism to
• 29:43
  call out people in
• 29:44
  our own ranks or to say like hey this isn't what we believe in
• 29:49
  no this is a crazy
• 29:50
  racist weirdo like this isn't us I'm glad we do that the
• 29:55
  Democrats desperately need
• 29:56
  to do that they are going to continue to go further further
• 30:01
  insane because they are
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: unwilling to check themselves also I think on the right
• 30:08
  Because We Have Such A Great Mechanism At Doing That And We Are
• 30:12
  So Comfortable
• 30:13
  Calling Them Out We Don't Need To Freaking Do It All The Time I
• 30:16
  Don't Need To Hear
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Every Other Word About What Crazy Thing
• 30:22
  or Candace or Tucker or like insert idiot name here does
• 30:28
  because it just feeds
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: their celebrity more.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: It just makes them more of an issue.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: It just spreads their voice more.
• 30:36
  All these people want is oxygen and attention and we should
• 30:41
  just drive them all of it.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that was the classic.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: It was the classic thing of don't feed the trolls good or bad.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what I mean?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm glad that we call it out.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: But there are so many people on the right who all they do is call out,
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: call out,
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: call out,
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: call out nonstop on the right.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I get it.
• 31:03
  So if you go back to 1990,
• 31:06
  David Duke runs for governor of Louisiana on the Republican
• 31:11
  ticket.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: uh and uh George H.W.
• 31:14
  Bush endorses the Democrat because he says we can't we can't
• 31:18
  like you know the
• 31:19
  David Duke had been a lifelong Democrat the Democrats like to
• 31:22
  bring this up
• 31:22
  sometime be like David Duke ran as a Republican he was a
• 31:25
  lifelong Democrat he is
• 31:26
  still in fact a Democrat he just had an open door yeah there
• 31:30
  was no one running on
• 31:30
  the Republican side so he ran as a Republican um but you go you
• 31:34
  go closer I mean
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: you have um what's it um
• 31:39
  like five to ten years ago now I think there was a guy in Iowa
• 31:44
  I think there was a
• 31:44
  representative Steve King who ran who was who all the guy he
• 31:51
  said some real real
• 31:52
  pops up real questionable stuff real problematic stuff let's
• 31:57
  say um and he
• 31:59
  basically the Republicans stripped him completely stripped him
• 32:03
  of power and I think
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: they actually ended up ejecting him from the house um
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: But the stuff that he said,
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: and it was bad,
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not defending anything he said at all,
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: not even on par with people who are still currently serving in Congress.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: You have Marjorie Tara Greene.
• 32:24
  She got severely disciplined for,
• 32:26
  I think it was a cartoon she posted about AOC.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Which, like, not great.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: Also, it was not as bad as...
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_01: Ilhan Omar regularly says.
• 32:37
  They could not force through a – like the Democrats would not
• 32:40
  allow a censor of her
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: for going through,
• 32:43
  for saying things that were significantly worse than anything
• 32:45
  Marjorie Taylor Glee
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: never did.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib specifically have said all kinds of things.
• 32:55
  that there's been literally no pushback and that now you have
• 32:58
  Graham Plattner in
• 33:00
  Maine and they will not – it is all about the power for them
• 33:07
  and they project this
• 33:08
  on Republicans who in fact tend to be fairly good about riding
• 33:12
  herd on their own
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: caucus,
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: on their own people and trying to keep out the people who are bad.
• 33:19
  But There Is No Such Thing As A Bad Democrat To The Democratic
• 33:23
  Party And Much The
• 33:23
  Media There Is Always The Formulation I Was Here There's No
• 33:28
  Such Thing As A Bad
• 33:29
  Democratic Unless They're Dead Then Then They Can Be Bad We
• 33:34
  Need To Not Constantly
• 33:37
  Walk Into That Trap I Think We Need To Find The Right Balance
• 33:42
  Of Like Calling Out
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Our Idiots And Then Moving The Hell On
• 33:46
  If you make your whole personality well,
• 33:48
  that's how you turn into a bull worker.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: Or David French.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's David French's entire personality now.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Swing a stick around conservative media and you will hit tons of those.
• 34:02
  So much of conservative personalities right now are focused on
• 34:08
  calling out the
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: brain rot of people who aren't even actually in our party.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no, it's true.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: It feeds them oxygen.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: The response to a lot of these people should be an offhand.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: They're not with us.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't want to talk about them because they're stupid.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: I say that as we're bringing them up, so a big old hypocrite here.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: that's because Chud the Builder was on the news,
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: and that's a funny story for the ridiculous name.
• 34:45
  I Can't I Can't Hope He Has Fun What Was It Big Box Big Box
• 34:56
  Little Box Oh Big Fish
• 34:58
  Big Fish Little Fish Cardboard Box I Don't Know What That Means
• 35:03
  But Okay It's The
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Bob The Builder Song Big Fish Little Fish Cardboard Box
• 35:09
  I don't know I only watched Bob the Builder You had children
• 35:13
  And they didn't
• 35:14
  actually like Bob the Builder that much I only had to do that
• 35:18
  stupid dance Big
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: fish,
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: little fish Big fish,
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: little fish,
• 35:21
  cardboard box Sorry I watch a decent I've said before I
• 35:28
  genuinely enjoyed Curious
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: George We watched Daniel Tiger
• 35:34
  Daniel Tiger and Thomas the Tank Engine I spent a ridiculously
• 35:40
  large amount of time
• 35:41
  pondering the socio-political structure of both the Kingdom of
• 35:47
  Make-Believe and the
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: Island of Sodor far too much time far more time than I should have spent
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: considering how these worked Did you watch Fireman Sam at all?
• 35:59
  Never even heard of it We did a lot of Fireman Sam and Postman
• 36:01
  Pat and his black
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: and white cat British?
• 36:04
  Yes You think my kids weren't watching like almost exclusively
• 36:09
  British children's
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: shows We watched Postman Pat,
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Fireman Sam,
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thomas,
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Peppa Well,
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: I hate Peppa
• 36:21
  Peppa Pig models bad behavior for children I haven't watched
• 36:28
  Bluey I saw people
• 36:30
  Bluey's great I love Bluey I've seen commentary online arising
• 36:37
  pointing out that
• 36:38
  the problem with Bluey is that the father is like just a
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  complete and utter
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  pushover in it I gather no he's not I'm just saying what I've
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  read I don't know I
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  SPEAKER_00: haven't seen it sorry fake news
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  As opposed to the father in Peppa Pig,
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  who is a successful architect of some kind,
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  I believe.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, good for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: My daughter used to go up to Luke and be like, Daddy's big Tommy.
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  SPEAKER_01: It models bad behavior.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's not Caillou bad, but it models bad behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: Caillou was definitely banned in my house.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it should be.
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  SPEAKER_00: My kids tried to watch it like once.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: They did love this show called Tayo.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could still sing that theme song in my sleep.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hated that one.
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  There was a thing that was,
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  Caillou's bald because he doesn't deserve hair or love.
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  SPEAKER_00: I honestly was like, why are we watching a show about a chemo kid?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, honestly, I'm rooting for the cancer.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what the problem with it is?
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  SPEAKER_01: He's Canadian.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're Canadian.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Daniel Tiger's Canadian too, though.
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  Whatever both of us have Canadian ancestry as we talked about
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  in a past episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: You blew right past that.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: Curious George is the gold standard to my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Curious George is a wonderful show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just everything about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has compelling plots.
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  SPEAKER_01: Actually, surprisingly good movies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thomas was great though.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It just wasn't very complex.
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  SPEAKER_01: None of it made sense.
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  I could believe that a man could have a well-trained monkey in
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  the city and also
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  take him to his country house and the monkey would interact
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  with the locals.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot believe that sentient trains would be trucking around.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, what about Asterix?
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  SPEAKER_00: Luke grew up on that.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's magic.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's different.
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  Nothing is ever said about how we came to this place where
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  suddenly you have
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  Trains That Are Sentient And You Can Wall Up For Misbehavior
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  Like You Know Like The
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  Cask Of Amontillado But But But But We're Talking About Thomas
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  The Train Yeah We
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  Lost It It Was The Episode Where They Wall Which One Is It
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  Percy And He Gets Walled
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  Up I Don't Remember No It's Not Percy It Was It Henry Is It
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  Henry Or Edward
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  I don't remember It's not Percy though because Percy is the
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  whiniest bitch of the
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  trains I wanted to love Percy because I'm like Percy is the
• 39:19
  eternal best friend
• 39:20
  which is me like never the main character never the bread
• 39:24
  tomato it's the bread
• 39:25
  Percy is just the whiniest bitch train Just learn something
• 39:30
  from that Stop
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  SPEAKER_01: No, but Curious George, you actually, you know, it's a believable plot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, certainly the monkey, George is capable of doing many things.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think a monkey, a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, you can see it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Asterix and Obelix, there's the magic potion.
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  SPEAKER_01: We already have set our place in a land where magic exists.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I grew up on Fraggle Rock, so...
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  SPEAKER_01: I never liked Fraggle Rock that much.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has a banger theme, I'll give it that.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: I know all the words to that still.
• 40:08
  As an adult,
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  I quite like the Muppet movies,
• 40:13
  the first couple that Henson was involved in.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't like a lot of the other Jim Henson stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just never have.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: Have you seen my favorite movie of all time?
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: Which, okay, I realize there's like 10 movies that I've seen ever.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: You said that a lot.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 40:29
  But my absolute favorite movie of all time is Emmett Otter's
• 40:35
  Jug Band Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever seen it?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's a classic Jim Hudson.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's Gift of the Magi.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: I could just read O'Henry.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: I know,
• 40:48
  but it's otters playing jug band folk music and like skating up
• 40:55
  the river and they
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: have to beat the cool bad boy band in the like town show.
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  I know enough about otters to be concerned about what gift it
• 41:08
  is they're giving to
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: each other in a gift to the Magi fashion.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because otters are in some messed up stuff, man.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's a mom and her son.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: And dad otter just died.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: So the son wants to buy a nice gift for his mom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you know that otters have a little pocket?
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: know about this?
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: They have a little pocket on their body.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: A little clam pocket for clams, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what they keep in their pocket?
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  SPEAKER_01: They have a special rock they keep in their pocket.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to like open up the clams and oysters.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: Bash in the skulls of their enemies.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not even joking.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: They use their rock to fight other things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bash in their skulls with it.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: You're saying this like I shouldn't appreciate- Baby seals.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: They use these on baby seal.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: They whack them with their special little skull.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: Look, Canadians go and club baby seals to death once a year.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the natives.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's the native.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of the natives of Canada,
• 42:14
  did you hear that the Supreme Court of Canada has announced the
• 42:17
  Albertans are no
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: longer-
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: Under the current terms,
• 42:21
  the Albertans are no longer allowed to hold a referendum on
• 42:26
  emancipation from
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: Canada.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Did you hear about that?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: I did not.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because the Supreme Court said that under the Canadian Constitution,
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: they had to have consulted with the First Nations peoples first.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: Which is entertaining because my understanding,
• 42:43
  part of the reason that Alberta is agitating for this is they
• 42:47
  don't like all the
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: weird burdensome things of always having
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: The First Nations people,
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: which is their term for the Indians,
• 42:54
  they don't like the First Nations people constantly having to
• 42:57
  be consulted on
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: literally everything and meddling and everything.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: Alberta could be much richer than it is.
• 43:02
  They have a lot of deposits that they would be able to exploit
• 43:05
  that they cannot
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: because the First Nations people will not allow them to.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: And they don't want to do this anymore.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: And now they cannot hold the referendum.
• 43:13
  Apparently there are avenues by which they can still hold their
• 43:16
  referendum.
• 43:18
  But They Require I Think Somebody Has To Sign Off On It
• 43:26
  Speaking Of Messy Politics
• 43:28
  The UK Is Just Descending Into Chaos And Starmer Is Pulling
• 43:34
  Tons Of Anti-Democratic
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: Measures As We Speak And The EU Is As Well All In The Name Of Democracy
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_01: We have to destroy the democracy to protect the democracy.
• 43:49
  This is where we have to shut out all voices because freedom of
• 43:53
  speech is a danger to democracy.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: And freedom to vote is a bigger danger to democracy.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: No understanding of irony, I'm afraid, in this world anymore.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's really something.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's really something.
• 44:09
  We should observe this over the weekend and then come back to
• 44:12
  it next week.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: I have a feeling we're going to.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Bye-bye.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: That was abrupt.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: We're good.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: We're done.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: Stop recording that.