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RIP Richard Lewis - #84 · The Grounded Show

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What it do we back again? What was it? What was the quote?
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Again? Forgiveness is the vine, but never pay full price for late
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pizza. Hey, man, no true words have been spoken. That was
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Michelangelo, right, Yeah, Bro was Leonardo. It's a class yeah,
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Michaelangelo, Michael Angelo. Bro. Anybody listening to this is the nineties,
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baby, yo? That that run of Ninja Turtles movies them three Ninja tur
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Yo. You never one. You never hate the third one. But man,
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I still rock with the I don't hate it my least favorite, but
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I still have it in my collection. Yeah, it definitely was the least
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favorite one, you know. But it was dope, like you know,
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the back in time vibe, you know it. It was a Shanghai right
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they took it back to like Yeah, they were like Samuraiz and Sammaraize and
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ship. Yeah, that was dope. I remember he like raft saved some
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little kid or something like that. I kind of remember that, babe.
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I really remember it because I watched the first two over and over again.
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But dog, they had that commercial we were talking about it earlier. Man,
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the Pizza Hut Little League commercial, Bro, where the kids in the
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outfield. The song is playing about you know, him catching a ball and
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right field, and then you cut to the scene whether all the whole teams
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at the pizza they're all eating pizza and they're all around the kid and he's
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like retelling the story of the catch and stuff. Dog, I wanted to
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beat that little white boy so bad growing up. Dog, he looked like
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he had the life. That used to make me think I could play right
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field. And what's crazy is right outfield and right field especially, it's probably
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one of the hardest positions in baseball, is that where like the ball goes
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most of the time, like yeah, and then it's such a wide wide
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field to cover, like just for the ball miraculous falling your glove. That's
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the thing that's it. That's why I think that commercial was so significant back
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then. And then the dude that was the catcher was Buddy from Mighty Ducks,
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right commercial. Yep, the dude who went like freaking drugs and attic
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and rehab and all that. Yeah, Bro, it's crazy, crazy Bro
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them them kid actors, Dog, they don't ever have like a good story
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coming out the other end, Bro, child actors at all. Man,
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it's sad that's not made like that's not a thing for kids though. That's
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my daughter was always oh boy, we lost the boy. But anyway,
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my daughter, she was always like the one where they were always trying to
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tell her, like, we'll tell us, oh, put her in these
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things, you know, take it to the casting calls, you know,
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for Disney shows, different things like that. Let's see what Joe said,
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just crashed, all right, he's coming back. But yeah, dog,
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Like I always got people telling me about that, and I'm like, oh,
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we might we might need to restart. So we were good, were
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good. I still got to hear anyway, the whole whole thing. But
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I was saying, as a bug that across it to crash. Yeah,
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I was having an issue before too. I think it was just being a
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little weird, but I was saying that when my daughter was small, they
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always try to, you know, tell us to put her in like things
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to like get cast it for different stuff. And I was just always adamant
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about never doing that until she wanted to and she was older. Because I
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just see the evidence, bro, like there's no child actor because your daughter
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is man talented. Sure definitely is, bro. But it's like, you
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know, it's like I told her like, if it's gonna happen now or
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if it's gonna happen later, it's gonna happen if it's for you, you
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know what I mean, And you got the talent. So and you know,
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you see now all these podcasts popping up where it's just a whole bunch
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of child actors linking up basically telling horror stories. Bro. You know,
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even the guy Dan Schneider, the guy that did a lot of the Nickelodeon
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shows, a lot of crazy stuff came out about him, and it's like,
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bro, you know, that's just that's not an environment, like that
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adult environment and like that kind of pressure though, that's not for kids.
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Man, That's just that's not a place where there need to be. And
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there's so many there's so much where you have to just leave them alone.
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You can't be at every single thing they're doing. Mm hmmm. And so
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you have to trust, you know, in them and the people around them.
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But it's just it's just tough. It's it's definitely a risk reward type
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of thing for sure. It's even like what we were talking about earlier,
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like even if you do everything you can to kind of prepare them and watch
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them and do all this stuff, Like things happen, bro, that's just
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out of your hands. People don't like to consider that kids are people too,
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just from the point of view that they're just gonna do what they do,
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like no matter how well they're brought up or whatever. Like, sometimes
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kids just go left, and you don't want to accept that it's your kid.
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You don't want to accept that it. You know, a lot of
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times parents be like, oh, what did I do wrong? But if
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you know you did the best that you can, and you you know,
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you gave as much love as you can. At a certain point, it's
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like, man, you know you can't do nothing about it. You just
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hope for the best. Yeah, you can. One hundred percent attributed to
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the youth for their you know, for their excuse decisions we made. We're
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adults and we know what we should and should not be doing. We have
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all the knowledge in the world. At this point in the heat of the
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moment, sometimes we make wrong decisions all the time, you know what I
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mean, No matter how much we know, no matter how we're raised,
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no matter all the knowledge we have. And so being young, being an
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adult, you still deal with the heat of the moment decision making. Yeah,
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man, it's always Oh boyn lost the guy again. Let me tell
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him to just restart his chrome. Hey, yo, It's funny man,
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because I was having issues with my chrome getting it running and everything before he
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got on, before we got on the podcast, and it's just crazy how
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now it's hitting him too. But yeah, man, I just know,
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like me as a parent, man, you know, you try to do
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the best you can with the kids. You try to you know, let
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him know the real but also you got to kind of do it and attack
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full way. It's really a lot of a lot of nuance to it,
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and we don't know what we're doing, you know what I mean at the
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end of the day. I remember I had a teacher that he didn't have
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kids until after he was like older, you know what I mean. Like
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he was already in his forties, I believe, when he had his first
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kid, and he still had like that issue where it was like, you
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know, he didn't know what he was doing. He felt kind of lost,
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you know, when he had his kid. I was saying, Joe,
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like, I even had a teacher that was in his forties when he
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had his first kid, and he was even saying like he was a professional.
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You know, he was a guy that had his you know, situation
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straight. He had a house and everything. He was married, and even
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when he had a kid, he had a rough time and he didn't know
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what he was doing and there was a learning curve for him. Yeah,
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And a lot of times you hear people saying like, you know, you
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know, wait till you're older, you know, do X, Y and
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Z. And it's like, bro, there's no formula to this life,
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you know what I mean? People look me and my wife, Bro,
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we did everything backwards wrong, you know what I'm saying, Like we had
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a kid, mad young. You know, we were dating like a mass
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short amount of time before we had a kid. Like you know, we
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had our ups and downs and you were still run as a couple when you
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had a kid, yep. And I didn't even understand the concept that her
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being pregnant, she was going to be a different person and she couldn't even
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control it, you know what I mean. Like I had to realize that
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later and then for the second, you know, for our son, I
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understood that a lot. So it was a lot different. It was a
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lot easier pregnancy as well. You know what I mean, But just that
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naiveness and just the situation we were in, it just kind of made a
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situation where it wasn't ideal at all and it was kind of like working against
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us, and we just got lucky. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
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You know, I can try to attribute it to a lot of different
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things. I could try to say it was you know, character things.
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It was you know, standing on those principles and stuff like that. But
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there's people that do that too when their things fall apart, you know what
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I mean. Like, it's just, bro, it's lucky to draw man.
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Like, you never say personally, your children, the way you've raised
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them, if they were to get in a situation like that, like where
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you know, they make the wrong decision and in the wrong hands and the
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wrong situations, would you be completely shocked. I would definitely be shocked,
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just because I've kind of trained my kids from a young age to enjoy their
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own company and to not look to people for anything like for comfort, happiness,
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advice, anything. Bro. Like, I've just always taught them to
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you know, trust themselves and do the right thing and move the right way,
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and you know, not to put too much into other people, and
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it's definitely cultivated itself and it's shown, you know what I mean, And
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I'm super proud of that just from you know, my kids are already fourteen
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and ten, so it's you know, it's a lot of time put in
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kind of showing them that and they've they've cultivated it, you know what I
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mean. So I would definitely be surprised, I would, you know,
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And even just like the way I grew up, bro, Like I got
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a perspective where like I've seen the bottom of the bottom, like I've seen
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you know, I've seen the worst people. I've seen the worst of the
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worst people, Like I've seen the worst part of the worst people, is
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what I meaning to say. Like, so you know, from the from
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A to Z, I've been there and I've seen it. So I have
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like a different perspective when I'm talking to them, because you know, I
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was even talking about this with my brother earlier, Like he was saying how
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he has not necessarily resentment, but sometimes he like talks to other people or
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you know, he'll be in like a conference call or meeting or something hearing
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people talking and hearing what, uh, you know, just their point of
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view and how they speak on stuff, and it's like he can just tell
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like you grew up a certain way, like you haven't go through certain things
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like and it's like, yeah, bro, like you can tell it's been
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sheltered exactly. That's pretty much it. And I feel like I've been able
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to find a pretty good balance of showing my kids the real stuff. But
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all so, like I mean, even because I'm that kind of guy where
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I'm I have that balance of like they know where I came from, they
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know my situation, like you know, they know I don't have that I
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don't have a dad involved, or like they've never met their grandpa, you
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know what I mean. They recently started asking about that kind of stuff,
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Like they know like where I came from, and they know where we're at.
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So it's like they understand my perspective, you know what I mean.
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They know they know that I'm coming from a genuine place. So I feel
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like it's also easier for me to but it's man, it's also because I
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stand for something too, you know what I mean, And I'm always I'm
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always firm, so I don't blow in the wind, you feel me,
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so they always see me be the same, like I don't. I don't,
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that's get inside of my mouth, you know what I mean. I
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don't. I don't do things that are questionable, you know what I'm saying.
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Yeah, it's a consistency and like I'm not a parent, but just
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I know it's having my parents in my life and the way I've learned,
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and you're really involved in your niece's life as well, oh big time,
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and the conversations I had with her, So I know it's consistency, you
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know what I mean. So it's not like, oh, you're at this
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age, it's time for you to learn things like this. It's being and
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showing that way throughout their entire life. It's like I've been telling you this
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for years exactly, you know kind of thing. It's like I've been showing
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you and telling you this for years and like for me, it took me
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a while to see that side of my dad. Now I'm glad that with
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my dad. I have conversations with him. It's like, damn, like
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you've been so right for years and it finally click and now I see it.
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And then same things. The thing thing you know, with my niece
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and the relationship my sister has with her, and it's same thing, like
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I like, so consistent about the way you should think about things, feel
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about things, deal with things, and you just constantly have to be consistent
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and not switch up on them because second you switch up, it's like,
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oh, I guess I don't have to think that way anymore. I have
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to feel that way anymore. Maybe it's okay to do this, Maybe it
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is. And that plays a big part of raising children, whether they're your
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own children or your family members or anything. Be consistent with your views and
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your outlook, and I think that plays a big part of what you instill
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in them and the way they deal with situations for the rest of their lives.
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Now that's big facts, bro, because I literally can pretty much all
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like the adults that were in my life growing up that were impactful. I
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vividly remember situations where they faltered from the point of view that I saw that
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it was like a lapse in judgment or they're going back on their word because
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now it's not easy for them to stand on what they said, you know
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what I mean. So it's like, you know, just seeing that in
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people and feeling that from people, it always made me be conscious of that,
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you know what I mean. Like, I've always tried to be as
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consistent as I can, just because I know that. You know, if
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you have that that hard line where there's not a lot of X factor to
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how you are and everything, you don't get into those dumb situations, you
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know what I mean, Like you cut out certain things and you know you
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should cut it out. As soon as you invited back, shit starts getting
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funny for you, and it's like, you know what it is, you
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know what I mean? You know you should have cut that out. You
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ain't cut it out. It's back now, your bad stuff is back.
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Everything is formulaic and everything is real black and white when you're just operating off
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of straight morals, you know what I mean, there's no gray area when
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you know what's right and what's wrong. Yeah, And that's how I like
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when we have a conversation to stuff and like the story you told us when
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you were a kid and how you played that situation. And like I said,
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I think about it if I was in a situation at your age,
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I don't know, it might have wait a little different. But it's crazy
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when you think back and you're like, damn, I made some kind of
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made some good decisions back then. Not all good, but I kind of
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did. So you had that good mentality in you, and you understood what's
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right and what's wrong. And it's like you carry that, man, you
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remember, you carry that through the rest of your life, man, until
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you get really old, and then you sit back and tell stories to all
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the younger kids. Yes, I know what you're going to go through.
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And it's even like like what I was saying, where like at those times
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as a younger kid, high school, you know, young adult, I
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made bad decisions obviously, and I did questionable things, but I would like
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to think that my morals never wavered, you know what I mean, Like
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it was it was based off of you know, other things, you know,
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financial, dumb kid stuff, you know what I mean. But when
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it comes to like being solid, like I always try to be that.
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So when I'm talking about stuff, you know now, talking about the past
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and different things, like I'm talking about it from a perspective of like I
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made it out of that because of what I did in those situations, you
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know what I mean. But speaking of that, bro which is like an
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interesting topic of inside of the topic today, Richard Lewis passed away man.
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Rest of the comedian he was when he came on my radar was Robin Hood
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Man in Tights, you know what I mean. I think that movie was
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from ninety three. I was a big, big fan of uh, you
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know, Robin Hood Three Musketeers, that kind of stuff. And I always
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liked like funny stuff. So when I saw that movie, it just like
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hit me right away, like it was like right in my alley because you
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see it and it has like this production value on this vibe to it where
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you think it's gonna be like this cool, meaty medieval style movie, but
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it's a comedy, you know what I mean. And he played like the
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king in the in the movie. And bro, that movie is so funny.
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Bro, Like it's just a lot of like stupid puns and like a
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lot of jokes like where they're like transporting it to the medieval time. Well
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that was a direct parody for Kevin costumes. Yeah, the actually a pic
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of Thieves movie. Like I said, that was back then where they were
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doing like starting those Peroy movies like The Princess Brian and all this stuff like
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that. You know what I'm saying, Like those were meant to be puns
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and like making fun of those things like that's what started, like scary movie
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and all that stuff like that, and like to be part of the initial
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comedy, uh cannon of those kind of movies. It's crazy. And that's
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why he I feel like everything he was in was from then on comedic value
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because of how funny it was. It's funny, man. I always thought
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Princess Briane was mel Brooks. I found out a couple of years ago when
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I bought the DVD that it wasn't mel Brooks. I believe I think it
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was. Let me look at it. I have it here my Rob Reiner
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directed and co produced by Rob Reiner, and that that's a that's another big
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movie, and that the star in that movie was actually the star and Robert
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hoom And and Tights, but the thing mister Money's favorite movie. There's two
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things I always remember from Robin hood Men in Tights. One is the scene
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where he stands up and he's like friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me
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your ears and they all throw and throw it at him. Bro, that's
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so stupid, but it's like right up my alley. Yeah. And the
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other thing that's like a hilarious detail as soon as you catch it is Dave
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Chappelle is in it, like a real young Dave Chappelle. And Dave Chappelle
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is like one of the Robin Hood guys like in the Entourage and stuff.
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And he got the little Robin Hood hat, the little green one that looks
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like the Peter Pan hat. But the one he got is a snap back
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and he's wearing it backwards. Bro, you gotta snap back Peter. Like
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just that kind of comedy that that long ago, it still resonates today,
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like everybody realizes today, why that's funny, that shit beyond their time,
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bro, Bro, And it's always funny like seeing more movies and things like
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that when you're catching these all time greats in the early stages and it's like,
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Bro, you just had him there as like a side character just being
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hilarious, you know what I mean? Yeah, that was great. But
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yeah, man, with kind of tying it back to what we was talking
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about, like with the Richard Lewis thing, you know, he dealt with
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like alcoholism, drug abuse, and honestly, man, I'm obviously I'm not
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happy he died, but I'm happy that he made it to an age where
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you're like six years old. Yeah, Bro, you're like, oh,
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man, he had a long life, you know what I mean, with
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all the stuff he went through in his youth, and it was performing through
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the whole out because he was in the last three few seasons of Curve.
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Yeah, he was a big person in Curve. Man. That's that's really
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how I started to like him again. And remembering who he was for all
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the seasons and Curb that I saw same exact thing. It was a reoccurring
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character. He was funny, and it was funny because he for the last
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few years he's always had this thing where he's like real like self self deprecating
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and and that was kind of his style, you know what I mean.
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And every year he would be like, man, this is this is probably
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my last year doing Curb. You know, my health, this this and
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that, like I don't know if I'm gonna be able to swing it.
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But he always ended up in the show, you know what I mean,
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Even last year, Bro, the last season Dog, well it was two
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years ago, but the last season there was a scene where him and Larry
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David are like sitting at like a city council rally or something like that.
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It's like an assembly or whatever. They're sitting in the crowd talking and Larry
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just cuts him off and he's like, why don't you just die already?
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When are you gonna die? Like, yeah, when they were at the
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funeral, right, No, I think they were like at that city council
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meeting where where he met that lady that he ended up dating from the city
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council or whatever. And it was just so funny because it's like, you
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know, obviously it's like a comedy thing, but it's like you could see
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like he was just having a lot of ailments. You know, it was
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getting harder for him to do stuff. He would complain about it more and
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more in the show because I was like his thing, you know, he
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was always complaining about the stuff that was going on with him. And like
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I said, man, it's dope that he he made it through a long
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life, you know what I mean, was able to bounce back from the
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issues he had before and you know and be somebody that you know, really
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added something to the comedy world, to the movie world, to the TV
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world. And that's Aleta. When you go that far back and I know
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you are a big fan of comedy. You have to really know the comedy
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scene, because there I forgot. There was a book. I can't remember
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the author, but I know the name has called him Dying in here and
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it's a book on comedy and the chronicle like the coming of age of these
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this collective group of comedians. And no, you know this group because it
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was Letterman. Let No, Robin Williams, Andy Kaufman, Gary Shanling and
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and and Gary Shandling is one of those guys right there that that didn't have
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this, you know. Unluckily he didn't have the same story as Richard Lewis.
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You know, all all the stuff caught up to him and he died
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pretty young, you know what I mean. Yeah, there was somebody else
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I can't remember, but it's like he came up with that group. Like
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he came up with that group of comedians like coming of age, like literally
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like like if they had access cell cover for comedians, they was on the
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cover the freshman covered. Yeah, and he that's that's how far back he
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gone. And look at these are some of the biggest name the same thing
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for allus. Williams, you know, his fate, his fate was cut
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short as well. But it's like, uh, he he is deep in
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the comedy scene and he didn't I think, remember he he had that one
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serious movie Leaving Las Vegas. When I moved to Vegas, I watched every
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Vegas move and I remember watching Leaving Las Vegas and he was in there.
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But it was a serious role, and back then comedian comedians didn't get serious
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roles. Yeah, it's just crazy, like yeah, yeah, Leaving Las
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Vegas. It's just it's just dope to see how long they lived and the
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legacy they left behind and who they were when they passed. Still people,
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people someone remembers. It's it's a dope story, like you know, shout
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out to Richard Lewis for real. And comedy is so interesting too because there's
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so many worlds within it, you know what I mean. Like when when
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we had Sean on, Sean Madden, the comedian, he was just talking
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about like when he started comedy, like his thing was I want to be
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a New York stand up, Like it wasn't necessarily like I just want to
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be a comedian, Like he wanted to go out to New York and he
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spent a couple of years like kind of working the circuit out there and just
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feeling what it was like to be a New York stand up, you know
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what I mean, Because even if you hear comedians talk, they'll have this
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thing of like New York comedy versus La comedy, you know what I mean,
22:27
because it's like two different scenes. It's always that thing, you know,
22:30
the closet thing, but within comedy. You know, Richard Lewis,
22:34
you know, he kind of danced on both sides, and he's just like
22:38
one of those legacy comedians that like a lot of his stuff is you know,
22:42
there's a lot of influence that a lot of people don't even know that
22:45
Richard Lewis left in the comedy scene. And that's another crazy thing about that
22:49
class that you're talking about. They came up in that era when things weren't
22:53
being documented in the same way, so they were kind of like setting the
22:56
blueprints for what the comedy scene is now, what the world is now with
23:00
comedy, you know what I mean. A lot of those people being involved
23:03
in the early stages of Saturday Night Live, like you know, the generation
23:07
before them kind of like setting that stage even and it's just super interesting to
23:11
see like how it's all kind of shaped out how the careers have gone and
23:17
stuff like that. And yeah, man, it's definitely gonna be sad watching
23:22
the rest of the season knowing that he passed and you know it's the last
23:26
season. It's kind of crazy how that happens. And then he you know,
23:30
they finished recording, the season's playing out now, it's it's they said,
23:33
no, it's done, and you know he passed away like the last
23:38
season, I believe, And you know, it's crazy real quick. He
23:45
had the same look his whole life. Yeah, the black he was known
23:48
for that all black bro and then long. He never cut it short.
23:51
He always had the long here. You always had the big leg puff at
23:53
the top. That's something who was dedicated to who they were. Man.
23:59
Another funny guy was Bob Einstein. You know, like one of the ogs
24:03
of sketch comedy. Bob Einstein played uh Marty Funkhauser on Curby Your Enthusiasm.
24:11
He's another guy that a lot of people don't know like the influence and the
24:15
and the bro he was like on like one of the og sketch comedy shows
24:21
that really like blew up that really like made sketch comedy like a viable thing.
24:26
You know what super da super Dave. Yep, you know it's it's
24:32
it's interesting. Man. Comedy is a cool world and and a lot of
24:37
different things. And speaking of comedy and comedians, just hilarious comedian that is
24:42
currently part of the Breakfast Club squad. She replaced Angela. I haven't seen
24:47
any of the new ones. How has it? How's it going? Have
24:49
you watched any of it? I like you, man, I like the
24:52
vibe. I like her. I think she's hilarious. Yeah, so I
24:56
I I consume the Breakfast Club in a very specific way. I'll check out
25:02
the interviews, specifically if it's somebody that I would like to hear from,
25:06
because like in their podcast, they kind of break everything up, so like
25:08
I'll check out the interviews and then I'll check out like the news segment that
25:12
they do at the beginning. I don't like when they take calls from the
25:17
audience or like, you know that kind of vibe like Donkey other day,
25:21
Like I'm not into that, but I like when they talk about the news
25:22
and stuff. I like when they do the interviews. But recently Charlemagne was
25:29
joking about, you know, people with big backs you know what I mean,
25:33
just joking like, oh, you know, talking about like fat people
25:37
or whatever. So he' said, oh, you know, making jokes,
25:40
and then somebody kind of came at him a reality TV star TS Madison.
25:48
Ts Madison, So ts Madison, I had to look it up earlier as
25:52
well, is known for being the first black trans woman to start and executive
25:57
producing her own reality sit. He's like, she was like, you know,
26:02
the person was bru Paul's stuff too, drag race. So cs Madison
26:11
made some kind of joke basically based off of what Charlemagne said about the big
26:17
back people and stuff like that, and then it kind of like devolved into
26:21
a thing where she came at just Hilarious and kind of called Just Hilarious a
26:26
man, because that's kind of like a thing people throw at just Hilarious here
26:30
and there, like when they want to shade her or whatever, Oh you're
26:33
a man, you look like a man, whatever, And just Hilarious was
26:37
kind of like, bro, this is crazy because you're trans throwing that at
26:42
me as an insult, and it's like you get what I'm saying, Yeah,
26:49
you can't make find someone being black if you're black exactly it's kind of
26:53
like, bro, Like, it was such a weird situation from just hilarious
26:59
the standpoint, and I'm not going to try to rehash what she said about
27:03
it or anything like that, but that was the gist of it, you
27:04
know what I mean. And it's just it's just funny, man, because
27:08
I think it's projecting and it's just funny because at the end of the day,
27:14
bro, Like, people do all these things and it just comes comes
27:17
to any topic, like not even just the trance thing, just in general.
27:21
People have all these feelings and they don't want you know, they want
27:23
to be treated a certain way and everything. But then as soon as things
27:26
devolve, you pull that card and you're trying to tear somebody down. However,
27:33
you can, no matter what the content is, what you know,
27:36
just to try to strike them down. And it's like, man like,
27:38
it kind of goes back to what I was saying about standing on your morals,
27:41
bro. You can't. You can't do things like that when you're trying
27:45
to champion something else, you know what I mean. Like, it's like
27:49
so many people have this thing where it's like somebody gets into a situation,
27:56
namely, did he you know, what I'm saying, did he get it's
28:00
into these situations and people are like, oh, they're trying to come at
28:03
him because he was mad about his liquor deal or whatever. And it's like
28:08
that may be true. I'm not disputing that at all, but whatever he
28:14
did aside from that that he's being charged with, if those things are true,
28:18
he still did that. Yeah, So it's like it doesn't one doesn't
28:23
excuse the other. And regardless, it's like, yo, you still left
28:26
yourself open to these things because you weren't being moral all the way. You
28:32
weren't standing firm all the way through, you know what I mean. And
28:37
it's it's just funny, man, how that works out, because it's like
28:40
a lot of people like to point at different things as to why situations happen
28:44
the way they do and how things break down and stuff. And I've always
28:47
said it on the pole, bro, I always look to myself every time
28:51
when something happens, Like even when somebody does me wrong, you know what
28:55
I mean. Me and you were talking earlier about a situation where I was
28:57
like, Bro, I shouldn't even have got involved with that person. So
29:03
if they did me wrong, that's on me. Because I knew. I
29:06
knew off rip, you know what I mean, Even if you didn't go
29:08
into that knowing the risk, I mean, you went into that knowing the
29:11
risk exactly. I went into that knowing the things about that person, and
29:15
I still went into it thinking, Oh, since I'm standing on business,
29:18
they're going to stand on business. But that's not how things work, bro,
29:22
you know what I mean? And yeah, man, that thing always
29:26
bothers me with a lot of people, and it happens a lot with people
29:30
like us, just from the point of view of we have a podcast where
29:33
you know, we're doing public things, where we're talking so much that eventually,
29:37
if not already, we've already talked out of the both sides of our
29:41
mouth, you know what I mean, Like it might have already happened,
29:44
and it probably already happened many times, just because we're talking so much.
29:48
You know what's lit on the podcast now. But the same thing, like
29:52
if any if anything ever comes up and I say something wrong with people are
29:56
going to go dig back and see whatever you should say about it, you
29:59
know what I'm saying. But I'm not big enough to have a reason to
30:03
do that. But it's there. But even then, Bro, I would
30:06
disagree just from the point of view of whatever you did say that might be
30:10
something that somebody can try to dig back on. You always stand on a
30:14
certain plane where regardless of what it is, there's they can't do any kind
30:18
of digging where it'll like hurt you. Yeah, it was just whatever happened
30:23
in that situation, you know, whatever common or whatever, and that's it.
30:26
You know, your track record speaks for something else, you know what
30:30
I mean. And that's the thing. That's the thing that I always think
30:33
about, man, Like it's just you know, people like to create these
30:40
resistances in their lives and they always want to point out a bad guy.
30:45
But a lot of time the bad guy is you being just just being a
30:51
moral you know what I mean. Like, at the end of the day,
30:52
it's being a moral Yeah. Man, I think we talked about that
31:00
stay with Kevin Elga yo about you know, people are gonna just just any
31:07
little thing, man, especially if you got fame and you're on the hype
31:11
train and you have all the success, people are going to find a way
31:17
to just tarnish it, man, just because you know they don't have it
31:21
and they haven't got to the level that you're at, and it sucks because
31:26
there's some people who who don't even deserve it. Like I remember we talked
31:33
about the Bear Show, The Bear and the girl who plays Sidney Ao Debris.
31:40
She hosts a Saturday Night Live and the musical guest was Jennifer Lopez and
31:45
they dug up a tweet from her from like twenty fifteen, nine years ago
31:52
where she was just joking and it's something I say about Jennifer loves myself,
31:56
Like, yo, she's still performing, still making music. She needs to
31:59
just go home and be a mom, like it just relaxed. Yeah,
32:02
yeah, I'm doing so much. And they were blasting at the whole week
32:07
of her SNL thing, bro, and it's just like it sucks to see
32:08
her, Like, I'm sure that was a joke, cause, like I
32:12
said, because I joke about all time. Man. Yes, And this
32:15
has nothing to do with her morals or how she treats people. That's just
32:20
her. She feels celebrity. Yeah, just a thought. And it's funny,
32:23
man, It's almost ruined that whole week for her, but luckily it
32:27
didn't. It's funny because we were talking about Ryan Garcia earlier and just like
32:30
his antics on social media and stuff, and it's like, bro, that's
32:34
just the world we're in now. Like back in the day, me and
32:37
you we had a thought and we just thought it and that's it, you
32:40
know what I mean, we might have told the people around us. We
32:44
joke about it for five minutes. I always talk about this as he's a
32:46
sorry bit that he does. So he talks about people. You know,
32:51
back in the day, you spend two hours arguing about a fact because nobody
32:54
had a way to check it. You know, you and your friends sit
32:57
around drink some beers, argue two hours about you know, a player that
33:00
was on a team, or you know a season that somebody, you know,
33:04
just any kind of thing, somebody that's in a movie. Nobody could
33:07
google it. Nowadays, Bro, you google it, and that conversation's dead,
33:10
you know what I mean, Like we're not even having that spirited debate
33:13
for two hours. That it's not even about the talk. I mean,
33:15
it's not even about the topic. It's about the talk. It's about the
33:19
conversion, it's about the camaraderie, it's about understanding how to talk to people.
33:22
Like there's so many elements of stuff that's kind of going out the window,
33:28
and even the way people are like internalizing content where it's like nowadays,
33:31
it's like transition into a thing where people don't necessarily like even interact with the
33:37
content. They just watch it and internalize it, you know what I mean.
33:42
So it's just a new way of even living, a new way of
33:45
even like having a personality. It's a new way of interact. Like there's
33:51
so much newness with the social media that it's almost like you can't even have
33:57
this ill will towards the people that are doing things on social media or like
34:01
because they're learning, you know, they're the blueprint, you know what I'm
34:04
saying. They're showing you, like what to do, what not to do.
34:07
Like nowadays, people on socials they move in a different way because of
34:12
those things that are happening to people from back in the day, you know
34:15
what I mean. You know it's just funny. I just a quick thing
34:19
I think that ruined debates for me. I remember, I remember you brought
34:24
up something about basketball and nobody reacted to it like some basketball topic in the
34:30
channe like dam and I feel that's the way now is because like I want
34:36
to say something about a player that I love, just to start a debate
34:38
about it, and then someone comes up with a link and it's like,
34:43
oh, but Michael Jordan played again seven foot guards between seven minutes each game
34:50
for many years in a row versus the same conference, and it's like,
34:53
bro, all right, see now I don't want to even debate with you.
34:57
Bro when you get all that, Let's just talk about what we know.
35:00
You didn't know that coming into this conversation, Yeah, you didn't know.
35:02
Tell me what's debate about? What you know right now? Facts?
35:06
Facts? And I feel that ruined debating for me. And that's why I
35:09
now just like, all right, whatever you win, because even with like
35:13
the debating dog like, that's just us exercising our brains with our thoughts,
35:17
you know what I mean. Like, it's not like you said, bro,
35:20
this ain't this ain't fact check time, This ain't you know, it
35:22
ain't even that deep most time, I ain't even that. It's just something
35:27
that passed the time and entertain yourself talking about something, you know what I
35:30
mean. And that's why I stopped posting about Lebron James publicly. And I
35:35
still get people and it's crazy and these people know who they are they send
35:39
me stuff about things Lebron's say in a postgame interview or things he says on
35:45
Instagram? What they gotta do about how he plays basketball today? Yeah?
35:49
Yeah, like this is your king, this is your coat, and I
35:52
just laugh. Yeah. The crazy thing about the Lebron thing too, is
35:55
like when you compare Lebron and Jordan, like both sides haven't have an argument,
36:00
bro, Like they got the stats and the eye test on both of
36:06
their sides. Bro, Like for you to for you to be a basketball
36:09
fan and not even be able to entertain that conversation, to me, it's
36:13
like crazy. Sometimes it's like, bro, like you know, people value
36:16
different things and basketball players just like they value different things in people, period,
36:20
you know what I mean? That's why, And that something I could
36:22
use to my benefit is like, uh, Lebron's been with the same wife,
36:29
raising his kids, family, man, the school, this, this,
36:30
and that. Jordan was a gambler, he did this, he did
36:35
that. What's that got to do with who exactly? What's that got to
36:38
do with that? I'm not even using that as a as a defense,
36:43
you know what I'm saying. I don't I don't care about that. But
36:45
people people like try to go against me about that, as I know if
36:52
what I've seen, I've seen Michael Jordan play, I've seen him play,
36:55
I've seen him playing the Wizards. I've seen that Jordan. I watched Lebron
37:00
play his whole career. I'm watching Lebron play today. Two different players.
37:07
To me, that's all I want to talk about. That's all I can
37:10
talk about. What I've seen, what they do outside of the court,
37:13
how they treat people, what they've done. All the other bullshit, even
37:16
the Jordan documentary and all the shit he said and him crying and as they
37:21
had Thomas, that has nothing to do with how I see them as basketball.
37:24
Yeah, exactly. It's just like a cool perspective to see what was
37:28
going on and everything. But like like you said, a lot of people
37:31
like to use like some of those clips like like Lebron could never or whatever.
37:35
It's like, Bro, there's more than one way to skin a cap
37:37
man, and they've both been able to do it. Lebron got the records
37:42
that I'm pretty sure Jordan. Jordan was super competitive, Bro, I'm pretty
37:45
sure he would have liked to be the all time leading scorer of the NBA.
37:49
For I'm pretty sure he would have liked to have all these accolades that
37:52
Lebron had, you know what I mean, Like, it's just de bait
37:54
that will never you know what I'm saying. You can never you can never
37:57
figure out. And that's why you literally, in order to succeed in your
38:00
profession outside of you have to be the most perfect person in the world or
38:07
else. No matter how good you are at what you do for a living,
38:13
someone will find something outside of that to say, nah, you ain't
38:16
that good because you did this outside of outside of your career. And it's
38:21
funny too, because like a lot of people use that thing of Lebron is
38:25
like being scrutinized more. It's a tougher time, more talent. This isn't
38:30
that the world is different, all this stuff, and it kind of makes
38:34
me laugh because it goes into another topic that I wanted to talk about again.
38:38
Sean Madden, the comedian he was. He put a joke on Instagram
38:43
that was real funny that I always had that same thought too, like there's
38:47
so many people that always say how hard times are now, you know what
38:51
I mean? And his thing was kind of like, you know, everybody
38:54
says times are hard now, But do you know of anybody that's been sliced
38:58
by a sword? Yeah? You know what I mean? Like, are
39:01
you like off the coast looking into the to the ocean and you see four
39:05
hundred Viking ships coming your way? You know what I mean? Like?
39:07
Were you drafted to go fight in the war that yeat and never had any
39:12
experience in battle before? Exactly did you? Did you have to be a
39:15
freaking five year old working in a factory for ten cents? Like? No,
39:19
you thought it was normal? Normal? That was there was a time.
39:22
But I always think about the people. Dog. Imagine you was born
39:28
in nineteen hundred, right, and you had, like I don't know what
39:31
a normal life expectancy is, let's say seventy. Let's say you were born
39:36
in nineteen hundred and you lived to nineteen seventy, right, Imagine all of
39:40
the horrible shit you went through. Dog. That was the last pandemic,
39:46
two World Wars, the Great Depression, the you know, the war in
39:52
Vietnam, like the first, the first World Trade Center, tech, second
39:58
World Trade Center, attach Bro, You're talking about a crazy like somebody that
40:04
lived in that time probably like they might have got to the end of their
40:07
life, like, bro, like thinking that the world was about a end
40:10
in like twenty minutes. You feel me like they probably thought this thing was
40:15
gonna explode by nineteen eighty, you know what I mean. But then you
40:17
look at now and it's like, yeah, there's a lot of tough things
40:21
going on, and honestly, I feel like it's just amplified because we see
40:24
it all now, Like all this crazy stuff has been going on, bro,
40:28
especially like Israel, Palestine, like Russia, all this stuff, Bro.
40:34
Everything, Dog Like it's been going on and even worse before because they
40:37
knew nobody could see it so you could get away with you know what I
40:40
mean. But it's just so funny, Like how many people nowadays have this
40:45
thing of like things are so hard and stuff because you know, and we'll
40:49
start winding down with this, but dog, like even me and you were
40:51
talking earlier, like I've been going through some personal hardships lately, you know
40:54
what I mean, Like just the financial burden of opening the salon. You
40:58
know, a lot of things just happening at once, so many things going
41:00
on, and it's like even going back to my own youth. I look,
41:06
bro, I'm right now talking to you, sitting in my studio,
41:08
Bro, in my house, Like, I'm gonna go out that door that's
41:12
behind me. Which way? I can never figure it? Right there?
41:15
That door right there, No, it's not even that door. Actually,
41:17
the door's over here. You can't see it. I'm gonna go out that
41:21
door and I smell it. My wife is cooking. I'm gonna go out
41:23
that door. We're done. I'm gonna eat my dinner, go to my
41:27
room and chill. Probably come back here later, work on some music,
41:31
Have some coffecito. You hear me, Yo, I'm about to give everybody
41:36
the game real quick on the coffee man, because a lot of people have
41:37
asked me this, and I'm gonna clip this and I'm gonna refer them to
41:40
this. There's a Boustello everybody, not everybody, but people that know about
41:45
coffee know about Bostello. Right, So, Bostello has Boustello Supreme. The
41:52
bustello is like a yellow yellow bag, but Boustello Supreme is like a black
41:58
one. Bostella acts, Bro. They only sell it in Target in publics.
42:06
Target has the beans and the powder, but Publics just has the powder.
42:13
Right, dog, that Bustello supreme. I don't know how to say
42:16
it in English, but it's called a geka in Spanish. It's like the
42:19
little thing you put on the stovetop to make coffee bustello supreme in there,
42:22
a little bit of lactad and some natural cane sugar. Oh my gosh,
42:28
Bro, that's the espresso of all espressos. Dog. But what I was
42:32
saying was I have so many luxuries now that I didn't have, and even
42:37
though I'm going through hard times, Bro, I have my own resources where
42:42
I can still make stuff happen. You know, I've been able to up
42:45
my monthly listeners on Spotify, like they've grown like by like four or five
42:51
thousand in the last like literally in the time that I haven't been able to
42:55
invest in my music the way that I was before, my audiences grew more.
43:00
Because you know, all I can do is what I can do,
43:04
and just the consistency and just keep dropping and just keep working with the music
43:08
and everything. Bro, I've been able to grow my fan base in like
43:12
the down period, you know what I mean. And sometimes, like especially
43:15
for me, Bro, I can't see the forest between the trees sometimes,
43:20
you know, like I just get too worked up and focused on the stuff
43:23
that's going bad and trying to fix that as opposed to looking at all,
43:27
right, all these other things are going good. You just got to weather
43:29
the storm, you know. You know, the way I look at it
43:31
is if you can sit down and everything you need in life, everything you
43:38
need on a day to day need necessity, you have it, You're blessed.
43:45
Fact. Everything you just want outside of that, the good to have,
43:49
the nice to have, those are luxuries. Those are luxuries in life.
43:52
And that's good to have it when you can have it, when you
43:57
have the means and the right time, the right situations to have it.
44:00
But if you have everything you need in life, like if you couldn't go
44:05
out there and take and drink your coffee because you couldn't afford coffee, that's
44:07
different. Then, you know, being go out there and be able to
44:12
like watch an eighty inch TV because you don't got it, that's completely different,
44:15
man. And that's the way I look at things, and that's why
44:19
I like, That's why I love the way my wife agrees with me on
44:22
that. Sometimes I want so much more and then I pull back and I'm
44:27
like, maybe we don't need it, and now she's like, we never
44:29
needed that. She's like, that was all you. And I was like,
44:30
yeah, but I just feel like, you know, as a husband
44:34
and we you know, as a newly ways, we need this. We
44:37
need that. She's like, that's all you. She's like, I'm happy.
44:39
We got I got everything I need right here. She's like, I'm
44:43
happy. And that's why I pull back, and I'm like, Damn,
44:45
who am I proving it to? You know, asks man, who am
44:46
I trying to prove something to? Yeah? Man, I know, like,
44:50
especially with like the way I grew up at I had this thing in
44:55
my in my adult like young adulthood, where I just wanted things because I
45:00
lacked things, you know what I mean, growing up and then you just
45:05
get to this point where you just you know, you got so much value
45:07
in your life just from the people that's in it, the way you're living
45:10
it, that you realize, bro, Like you said, it's like all
45:14
that stuff is extra and sometimes it's not even a plus because it's you know,
45:17
you know how it is the shiny new thing and then it's the next
45:21
shiny new thing. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, once you get
45:23
that, then oh man, we'll wrap it up. But when I left
45:30
the first company I worked with for thirteen years to go to a big corporation
45:36
that I thought was what everybody needs to do in their career. You need
45:38
to work with this big name and this big I had. I had a
45:42
mentor and he told me, he goes, I'm gonna tell you one thing.
45:46
If you chase the beast, now, you're gonna chase the beast forever
45:51
because you're gonna catch that beast, and then you're gonna look for the next
45:53
beast, and you're gonna catch that beast. You can look for the next
45:57
piast. And he's like, if you don't give that up, you're never
46:00
going to be happy. You're never going to be satisfied. Facts. Man,
46:02
He's like, you're going to do that for the rest of your life.
46:06
Bowser is always going to take Princess Peach to the next castle, dog
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Facts, and you got to pick your castle just to kick it out because
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you want it and you're chilling there Facts and leave that dirty bitch behind.
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Hey. But yeah, man, I recently organized like all my music that
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I've been working on, man, and I have a lot more music that's
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finished than I thought, and that even lifted my spirits because I felt like
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I've been slacking in that area. But it's like, dang, I got
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like, you know, twenty something records to work with, so I'm getting
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round. I'm just saying, we need a project. We need a project.
46:43
The stages I'm in right now, man, I'm ready. I'm ready
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to get this going. Me and Freddie coming up with a plan for this
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next project. And just what I got going in that project is I'm just
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super excited for people to hear it and it just hit that get out of
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this plateau and hit that next level, you know. Yep. Yeah.
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Man, aside from the music stuff, I don't really got nothing going on
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like that. Man, if you're in the Orlando area, man, make
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sure y'all go catch Jarry Knows, Sean Madden. There's a lot of other
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comedians. But I'm telling a lot of people, especially because I know a
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lot of people that love comedy. The comedy seeing in Orlando right now,
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Bro is going crazy. I Mean, there's so many artists like Austin Bro
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And that's where I was kind of going with it. There's so many comedians,
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I said, artists, but there's so many comedians that are working regularly
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in Austin right now, which is not the Mega the Mega. It's like
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the new Mecca comedy right now. Man, And like Jarry's always over there,
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Shawn's always over there, like bro like these There's a lot of talent
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here in Orlando. And right now you can see him, you know,
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ten dollars, twenty dollars, you can see him for free and some nights
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depending on when you go, you know what I'm saying. So I definitely
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encourage people that looking for something dope to do that's not kind of like the
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normal stuff. The comedy scene in Orlando. Man, that's where it's at
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right now. Remember I said this, and it's on record. So a
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year from now, when all these names I'm telling you is doing crazy things.
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You know. I don't know if people know Preacher Lawson came from out
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here, you know what I mean, not specifically Orlando, but this is
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kind of where he like you know, sharpened his craft and really like you
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know, took off from you know, from what I saw. And yeah,
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man, it's just it's just a good time to kind of be involved
48:30
in like downtown everything they've been kind of cleaning up the vibe down there and
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kind of shifting the way the vibe is down there, like to make it
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more friendly for people just to go out there and have a good time.
48:39
So it's definitely dope something to check out. Man. We got to do
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some kind of grounded thing where we go to one of these things, and
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you know, we definitely got to make that connection because you know, these
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guys are tapped in with the show. You know, they're friends of the
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show, and it's definitely something that we need to explore. Yeah, John,
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I love Jarry. He's always down. He comes on here, he's
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ready to rock. Uh. His energy is amazing, man. And I
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watched all Sean's clips. Uh, we definitely need to make that happen as
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soon as Quincy aka Carmen san Diego. Uh, we need to get Sean
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here with all of us too. Yeah, not for sure, but yeah,
49:16
dog Quinn, he shout to Quincy. No, that's a dog that
49:20
we're gonna hold it down for the next couple of weeks without him. Yeah,
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that's the homie. Hey. But but going back to like how we
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grew up dog, Quincy grew up pretty much like how the dog and to
49:29
just see him like flourishing. How he has been in the last couple of
49:31
years, Dog, especially in his back's back, especially the down period.
49:37
He's coming out of dog like you know, he spoke. I'm not talking
49:38
out of turn because he spoke about it on the podcast and everything, but
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losing his mom and being in just a horrible financial situation and just you know,
49:45
with the job, man's going through it and he's coming I feel like
49:49
he's digging himself out of that hole, man, And you can't do nothing
49:52
but be happy for him. Yeah, we give him them a little friendly
49:54
jabs, you know, the group chat dickheads, you know, but at
49:58
the end of the day, you know, we nothing but love and we
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all happy for him and just see hold for him. A couple of weeks.
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Why why why he's uh a cross country boy. Facts, man,
50:07
he got to give up those sick days. But you know what I'm saying,
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it's all good. He'll earn him back next year. He'll crew them
50:13
back. But yeah, man, thank you all for tuning in again.
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We're gonna be back like we're always back. And like I said, man,
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uh, we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna touch
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the city. Man, it's coming very very soon. We need to expand,
50:28
We need to expand. We gotta get that in facts. Man,
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