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Ring Lights, First Song Vibes and Gene Says 'No Politics' Right · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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So I'm just sipping on the tea and I know, I know, it's going
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to be a tea filled show today. So that's why I've got my
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special Rick and Michelle mug available for 999 on Amazon.com.
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I don't. Know it's 999, we need to ask
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someone how much. Actually, actually, I'm just
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lying. I'm lying about where it's
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available and how much it costs. But I wanted to get the plug in.
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And again, I know everybody, all three of you watching and
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listening, would love to add this to your collection because
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this is how we sip on the tea so.
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There you go. So I'm going to I'm going to sip
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on the tea and I'll let Michelle take over because as always, I
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talk to you much. Yes, no, and if somebody really
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does want a mug? What?
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What would you say? Somebody really does want a mug.
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They can message us and I'm sure we can make it happen for a
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price. I don't know how much Seoul
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would sell them for, but yeah, yeah.
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It's a collectible. Yeah, all two of them.
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So, you know, get, get in now. I mean, someday you're going to
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be at a yard sale and one of these bad boys is going to be
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sitting there and you're going to go.
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Who? Who the?
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F is these people and you're going to still going to buy this
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mug because it looks cool? You can, yeah.
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I mean, we're just like everyone else who has a podcast and
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everyone and their mom has a podcast.
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Literally so. And you?
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Also have a cool new little. Light.
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Not with cups. Not with cups.
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They. Probably have shirts and of.
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Course they do. They're not.
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Yeah, they're not radio stations.
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They've got all the cool. They've got all the cool shit.
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Radio stations have nothing. This is like a this is, yeah,
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this is on a limited budget for you and I as far as everything.
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I know exactly well, but I mean, I know everybody.
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I know everybody's going to want their their mug.
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So it's getting my 0 sugar root beer.
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If you were curious what I drink these days.
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Well, yeah, you don't drink Mountain Dew anymore.
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I don't drink Mountain Dew. I don't drink Pepsi.
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Pepsi 0 sugar, root beer. Yeah, on occasion I have a Pepsi
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if I'm going to a restaurant. Oh, OK, Yep, and you have a cool
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new light now. I do thank you so much.
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It so really quick. It came unexpectedly in the mail
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thanks to Michelle, along with my super awesome merch mug and
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so and so it was kind of a a pleasant surprise to to see the
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the the box. I didn't even know what it was
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and then I pop it open and and and I don't think we've
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discussed it. It was it was the lamp for a
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while. So when the dogs get underneath
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my underneath under the desk, he ripped out the the last ring
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light or he broke the last ring light.
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So it's been a lamp for like, I don't know, 20 shows.
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It's for. A long time, yeah, for a long
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time and yeah, so, so it's nice to actually have the the ring
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light there. So I'm I'm appreciative and then
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what a what a great podcast partner I have in Michelle.
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I tell everybody it's so funny. Someone had mentioned to me, oh,
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I hear you have a podcast. I'm like, I'm like, well,
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Michelle does all the work, but I show up.
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I show up to record. You do all the talking, I do all
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the heavy lifting. So like the editing and
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everything else that goes into this.
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Yes, of. Course, because I say you know
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all the time, so you got to chop out all that you knows.
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Did we? We already talked about.
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We already. Talked about crutch words.
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We already talked about crutch words.
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What's your crutch word when we do this?
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You know, minus, you know. Oh, is it the same?
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Yeah, when I have the same crutch words.
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Yes, I think we probably like feed off of each other and say,
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you know, multiple times because that is both of our crutch
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words. I'm, I'm thinking, I'm thinking
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there needs to be a remix. Logan, our one listener who can
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do music. I think he should sample.
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You know, you know. You know, you know.
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With you and I and. Then sample it into a little
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wakey wakey wakey wakey song. Watching TV and commentators and
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that kind of thing, a lot of them say it too.
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So I don't feel so bad and just professionals, they're like on
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TV, yes. And so I don't feel quite so
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dumb or bad anymore for saying it so.
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Well, I think, I think that this is unscripted.
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So it's funny, when I watch, I do watch other podcasts and
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they've got producers or they've got staff and so that right.
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Everything for them. And they've got teleprompters
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and different things. Like, I mean, they're just
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looking at different things. And so for our little podcast of
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$0.00, this is what you get. We we just ad Lib it and the
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best of our ability. So you're going to hear a
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little. Crutch words in there.
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I mean, I jot down like what we should talk about, and usually
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it's more than what we could fit in.
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And then if I have to have something concrete, like it has
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to be a quote or has to be whatever, I will specifically
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write that down so I could see it and read it so that I'm not
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misquoting somebody or whatever it is.
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But other than that, yeah, we're just winging.
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Well, yeah. Because I take probably tell.
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I take a soft course every show so.
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Yes, you too. Yes, I do.
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So she does come with a list. I just want, you know, she does
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come with a list. Do really.
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And we get through like topic one, and she's like, well that's
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it, we're done. There's our time.
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No, my husband was like, it's too bad you guys couldn't talk
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longer because you have let lots of stuff to talk about it.
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It would be fun to hear you get to the other stuff.
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Got to have more episodes. And we've also talked about
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would be interesting. Logan said he'd come on as a
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guest, which would be a lot of fun.
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He doesn't want to be seen. And you said your daughter might
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come on, but she doesn't want to be seen.
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But then I thought, you know, I mean, down the road, I'm not
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saying today or tomorrow and the next time it would be nice.
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We do know a cup, OK, what semi celebrities maybe that we could
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have on the show, you know? Yeah.
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Maybe. Call.
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We could call in a couple favors and have them come, you know,
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show up or whatever. Yeah.
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Or or, and and you know what in the comments, let us know, hey,
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do you want celebrities? You want us to get a hold of
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some celebrities and put them on this thing, or do you like it
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just the way it is? Or do you, like us, just battle
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on? Or do you like to would you like
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to have our our family come on and rebuttal everything that we.
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Said. And say, and as my son, as my
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wife always says, you're a lot, you're a liar.
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You're just a liar. Yeah, same with Shaylee.
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She says the same thing to me. OK, well, before we dive into,
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like, all this other stuff, I did want to talk about I'm.
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I'm annoying, I'm annoyed because we had a bunch of work
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done on my car. I just picked it up yesterday,
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$2500 worth of stuff done on my car, right?
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Picked it up yesterday. I went to go get my coffee
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before our podcast and what comes on the check engine light
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comes on and I'm like, you have got to be fucking to me.
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Like I. And so now after we get done
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recording this podcast, I have to go take it back there.
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And then they need to put it on the computer to see if it's just
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from what they did that now they need to clear it or if it's
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something new. And I'm like, Oh my God, please
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don't think, please don't be anything new.
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Like I could have spent this $2500 on a down car on a down
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payment for a new car, but we just bought Jay a new car and I
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don't want a monthly payment right now.
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I know you were you were thinking about that.
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I know last time we talked we were thinking about it.
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Now do you take it to the dealership?
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No, we took it to this shop that we took it to before last year.
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We had to take it in and we had about it was last summer because
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my air conditioning stopped working.
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We took it in that was like $1300 right there, right for
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what needed done. Somebody referred us to the shop
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and so then this is where we took it back again.
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And so, yeah, the last time they fixed it and it was fine.
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So I don't know what is going on this time.
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You know what I'm? Sure.
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And number one, I'm number one, it's the the the check.
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I mean it's it's it's finicky, it's finicky.
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So I will give, I will my my father was a mechanic.
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So I will give you a little. So if the check if the check
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engine light is on and it's just solid, yes, it is like it's just
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solid, right? Yes, it is.
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Yeah. Then it's you.
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You want to get it checked out, but it's not dire right now.
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If you're driving and the check engine light comes on and it's
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blinking, Mofo gonna die mofo gonna you that's.
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It well, that's why I took it in because that was.
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Happening. Was it blinking?
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Yes. Yes.
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Well, yes. Only, but only when I would like
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gun it because you know how you drive.
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But so that yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, so I would like stomp on
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the gas to try and pass someone because they were pissed me off
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or. Whatever it is.
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Yes, it would come and start blinking, but then it would go
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off after I stopped or turned it off.
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So it wasn't consistent, but we knew something was really wrong
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with it so that's why we got it in the first time.
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But now it is just on and stays on.
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OK, All right. Because yeah, when it's
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blinking, that's usually borrowed time for you, you know,
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people like just keep driving so.
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I mean, that's kind of what I was doing.
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Yeah, yeah, Well, I saw, I saw Logan on Saturday in in
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Clarkston in my truck, my big yellow truck, it's a 2002.
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It has the ABS brake light on, but but it but that light, it's
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got a shorts ever since I bought the truck.
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Yeah, the first week, first couple weeks I bought the truck,
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that light came on right, But I took it into the I took it into
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the light swab and like there's nothing wrong with your brakes.
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I'm like, well, then it's just a sensor.
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So I've never fixed it. So it's just always it's just
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and and if I hit a bump, it comes on.
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But sometimes, but most of the time, sometimes it's on and off.
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You know, I'm saying, but check engine.
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I hear you a little different there.
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So, but I'd be mad that I I bet, I bet it's a reset, hopefully,
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and I hope I bet they'll cover it.
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I bet they'll cover it. Oh, I'm sure they will, but it's
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just the inconvenience now. Now I have to go back.
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Now I have to, you know? But yeah, hopefully it's nothing
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serious and. The one thing I hate about your
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car, Michelle, is a police interceptor.
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I hate, you know I hate people like you.
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I'm just going to put it out there.
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If you got a freaking police. Interceptor because you're
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speeding along and you see my car and you go.
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Like that, here comes that I go, hey, there comes a copper, here
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comes a copper and. There have been so many cars
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that will be in the right lane, it will be coming up like super
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fast on the left side and then they'll see my car.
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It's usually night time, they can't see it that well and then
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they're like, they slowed down and stay behind me until they
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figure out I'm not a cop car and then.
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Right, right. They think you're a police.
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Yeah. Interceptor.
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See, I'm. I'm smarter to know that.
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So, so. But but the good news again, I'm
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with you. Good news.
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It's paid off. Yes.
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And no one wants, and I don't blame you for not wanting a car
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payment no matter what. We already have one for Jay's
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car right now maybe. In like a year.
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Or two years. I give him credit, he drives.
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Oh yeah, his last car had what, 250,000 plus miles on it?
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And so and so, yeah, so your hubby is driving to, you know,
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he's got a, he's got six hours. What?
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He's got a big commute. Yes.
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So she's car. She has a Toyota Corolla 2007.
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The only thing we've ever done on this car is the brakes.
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It is stuck for some reason at 299,999 miles and the odometer
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won't roll over anymore. 300,000 right, Right, because it's
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expected to be put out of its misery by now.
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Yes, that car is still going so. I love that.
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I love that so well, I mean, that's again yeah, I just go in,
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but I understand the frustration.
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Well, so Megan got her. Megan has a Subaru.
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She has a Subaru and so and it's a cross track and it's a 2000
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here. I thought it was a 2019.
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And my wife's car is a 2022. It's well, it's way newer.
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I mean, she always drives the best car in the fleet.
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I say I always have the junker and so for for a week she was
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backing out and then I hit the brake.
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Sounded like they were bad, right?
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Squeaky and. Yeah, so she went in $3500 later
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it was, you know, because once you go and she went to the
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dealership or no, she went to Perfection Tire.
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But once you go there, of course they go down this huge, massive
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list of what you need. And she decided, you know what,
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I'm just going to do it anyway. So she did and then danged if
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she wasn't pulling out a few days ago and I'm like what the.
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So no, apparently it was dust in the date the the brake disc.
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But she still went back. I said I said they didn't.
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It sounds exactly the same and you got brand new brakes.
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So she didn't go back and check it and they just cleaned it.
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Now it doesn't do it. But I understand that
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frustration, especially when you walk away.
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You spent 2500 bucks. Yeah.
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And then you just. Hit the road.
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You're like what the? Great, I didn't even get a day
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driving this car and the check engine light comes on.
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What, And you haven't rode it? I mean, you haven't rode it
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hard. It's not like you're horrible on
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your car. Well, what?
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No, I mean I break fast probably like I go through breaks a lot,
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but that. Is my own.
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Doing because I do drive like I am in a race, kind of like you.
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You are the same one I. Drive like my personality?
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Yeah, I drive like my personality fast.
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You are the same way. So I do go through a lot of
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breaks. I think I'm my car.
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I've had them change twice now and they're probably going to be
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due pretty do it again and I've had my car 10 years though so.
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's been a good, I mean, it's been
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good, right. But yeah, but your car, when you
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bought your car, your car was expensive or yes.
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Because it was, for the time, brand new.
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Yeah, yeah, for the time, for the time now, it's great.
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It's not changed, you know, but. Oh yeah, now it's not worth
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shit, but. You're right, right?
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But, but, but when you bought it, we were all at the station.
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We were like, Oh my gosh, we were all drove.
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How fancy and drooling, right? Right.
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She pulls. She swings into 4010 Summit View
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with Backstreet Boys. Blaring or whatever instinct or
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something I don't know. My moon roof open.
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Exactly. Maybe it was vitamin CI, don't
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know one of those things. Probably in my specific parking
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spot that I always go to park in at town Square and it would
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irritate me if somebody else got home.
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Spot I know no driving it with keen play and I'm sure that's.
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What it was, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz I cuz I always laugh.
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It's so funny. I don't know if you ever did
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this when you were a kid or was an adult.
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I'm always like when I bought a car that's always used, I've
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never had a new one, but if I bought, it's new to me, right?
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I'm always like, what's the first song I'm going to play?
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Am I playing Van Halen jump? I mean, am I playing Mr. Mr.
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what am I, what am I playing when I first get into this this
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car for the first time because. You want to hear, you want, you
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want the bass and you want that surround sound of your car,
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whatever it is. Right.
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Everybody thinks about it's, you know, it's, it's it's, it's it's
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like, you know, yeah. That, that that's the first
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thought when they, yeah, when they they see that cars like
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what what's the first song I'm going to play in so.
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Well, that well, I guess well, 2500 after you get done with
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this, this broadcast and you'll head over there and, and they'll
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fix it and you'll be good to go. Let's hope.
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Let's hope them. OK.
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Well, you mentioned Logan, Yes. So you got to see him this
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weekend. I did.
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How was that? It was good.
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So I had to go back to Clarkston and Lewiston.
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I had, I had a broadcast on Saturday, so I was doing a
15:07
Walker's furniture. But then I had to head out of
15:10
town because the, the owner of the Rollaway, which was the
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skating rink I worked at way back in the the late 80s and
15:18
early 90s, he sadly passed away. And so, yeah, so the older I
15:21
get, the more I'm trying to make this, this effort.
15:24
As you know, I, I'm horrible at it of, of, of like if someone
15:28
passes away or it's a wedding or something's going on, I try to
15:31
make the effort to go there. And so he passed away.
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So these are people I hadn't seen in 30 plus years.
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And so I went to, they did a little celebration of life.
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He died in October. And so they had a celebration of
15:45
life in Lewis and Clarkston this this last weekend.
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So I drove over there and I thought, well, I'm here, I'm
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going to go go see Logan and go get dinner with Logan.
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And so I went to the thing for a couple hours.
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It was great to catch up with people.
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I mean, it really is sometimes it's so funny when you go back
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after 30 years, what a surreal thing it is because I haven't
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seen those people since like early 90s in terms of work, in
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terms of working at the roller, roller skating rink.
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And if you didn't know that I did work at roller skating rink
16:14
early on. And so, and so it's just cool to
16:17
see people. And then there's people, some
16:19
people I recognize, some people I didn't recognize, but the, but
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the skating people kind of hung together, which is kind of cool.
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So then later we go to, I go to dinner with Logan and Logan's
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doing good. I love seeing him.
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But, but one thing we, one thing we do is of course, we spar back
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and forth in conversation because I, I hope he doesn't
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mind me saying this, but I'm not, I'm not as woke as he is.
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So I'm just going to bluntly put it out there.
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So I feel like I'm more down the middle.
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And so, and so when we're having the conversation, there's always
16:51
things that he says to me, you know, and, and I, and I do think
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that there's a generation gap and some of the things he says.
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So, so I had, he had heard the podcast about 50 Shades of Grey.
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So we had talked, I had talked about that Megan had gone seeing
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50 Shades of Grey and why didn't she come home and want to try
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some of the 50 Shades of grey stuff.
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And I told Logan about, and I said, well, normal people.
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And he goes stop, stop saying normal people.
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You know, he just shuts me off. You don't know what normal
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people do. You don't know what everybody
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does. So he's still, he's kind of like
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that, you know, I'm saying. So then we got into the
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conversation about, about just relationships in general and he
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dropped and he dropped this word transactional.
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He goes, well, it's not relationships aren't
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transactional. And then I so I want to bring
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that to the table today because I do think they are.
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I think that to some extent because and then so we were he
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not having conversations. So let's say, and this is, this
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is hypothetical, but let's say I marry somebody and I married 15
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years and they completely, 100% turn into a totally different
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person. Did I get a bad bill of goods?
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I mean, I know I don't mean to, to say it like that, but, but I,
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but I, I said it's like, so, so people are allowed to change,
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which that's OK, but what if they're, what if they're 100%
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complete opposite of what you married?
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So, so going forward for the next 1520 years of your
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relationship, you're supposed to just stuff, you know, that's,
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that's life. I don't know if I agree.
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I don't know if I agree with that.
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And then, and then I was thinking about when you see
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yachts and you see fat baldy and little tubby guys and you see,
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and they're and they're 65 plus and, and they've got a hot babe
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on their arm in a key and they're 22 years old.
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Bill Belichick. I'm not going to pick on Bill
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Belichick, but I mean, let's be realistic about the the
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relationship there. And they already broke up.
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If you're just curious. About it.
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Oh, they. Did I think they did?
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I don't quote me. Sorry.
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Bill Bell. If if Bill's, he's listening.
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Sorry, Bill. I'm sure he'll find another 22
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year old. I will.
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He'll be fine. So is that transactional to me?
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Because you could. You're not going to.
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I mean, I'm not saying that a 22 year old's not attracted to a
19:01
6570 year old person. I'm not saying that that's not
19:04
humanly possible, but I think the odds are.
19:08
But there's a little something extra.
19:10
Right for. Them to be attracted to that
19:13
person. I think so not necessarily it
19:16
transactional, it's give and take in a relationship, but
19:19
Logan's using that like transactional word, but it's
19:22
just give and take in a relationship, whether that's
19:24
like emotional support, physical, practical, whatever it
19:30
is like it's just kind of that ebb and flow of a relationship.
19:34
So it's not necessarily transactional, it's just how
19:37
most relationships work. I know there are some people
19:41
that believe, like Logan, that they should not be like if
19:44
you're deeply in love, it's not transactional.
19:48
Almost like keeping scores or right keeping track.
19:52
And, and I know that's what he means because as he was talking
19:55
goes, goes on with the girlfriends, my love of my life,
19:56
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, and I understand that
19:59
my, my son is, you know, 30, going to be 32 years old.
20:03
I'm a 100. I'm not saying I'm totally
20:05
different, but I am. I'm 50 some years old now, in my
20:08
late 50s and my viewpoints and my what I believe and what I
20:12
think has changed. I mean, don't.
20:14
Do you feel for yourself as well?
20:16
Definitely. And as you get older, you have
20:19
children, you'll you have more life experience behind you.
20:22
Right. And that does not negate what
20:24
Logan's saying. I understand what he's saying
20:26
because he's going to immediately go, well, you don't
20:27
know. I mean you don't know what
20:28
you're talking about. I hear you because every that
20:31
the generation under us is going to say we don't know what we're
20:34
talking about. Just like, just like we always
20:36
say, the boomers don't know what they're talking.
20:37
About right, and the boomer said we didn't know what we were
20:40
talking. About right, but but I do think
20:43
that from like, it's kind of because we've done this
20:45
conversation, I said, so if you get dressed up, we're going to
20:48
go, it's Saturday night or whatever, We're going to go have
20:51
dinner and and I'm, I'm a guy, you're a female and you cannot
20:56
sit there and tell me that the guy.
20:58
And even if even if nothing happens later on, that's still
21:01
on the guy's mind. Well, yeah, you're a guy.
21:03
Thanks for one. That's all you're ever thinking
21:07
about. Does that make you, I mean, does
21:08
it make you a heathen? Does it make you a bad person?
21:10
I kind of felt when my son was talking about it made me feel
21:12
like I'm a bad person. Like I'm not a bad that person.
21:14
It's like I think most. Typical men.
21:17
That's what they're thinking about.
21:18
You think about that all the time.
21:20
We don't even have to get dressed up for you to think
21:22
about. That I know and you know, and so
21:24
and so it's one of those things where you know, you're still
21:26
respectful. If I, if I reach to my wife and
21:28
she goes, no, wait. And I huff and puff and turn my
21:33
turn, my turn the other direction, right.
21:35
But I I don't. But I don't pursue it.
21:38
Great. Because she has sent me the
21:39
message. She's not.
21:41
Hold it against her like you're not like hold.
21:43
It against her I get a little, I mean, but I mean, has Jay ever
21:47
got frusted with you or a little frumpy with you ever, ever in
21:51
your entire relationship? Probably, I'm sure most.
21:53
Definitely, yeah. You know, it's just being a, you
21:57
know. Great, because you guys want it
21:59
all the time. And I think I mean that that is
22:04
reality. Most men like that's all you
22:06
think about sex. What is it like every 3 seconds?
22:09
Wasn't there a study about that a long time ago?
22:12
And yeah, we don't have to get dressed up.
22:14
We don't have to do anything. Like that's what you're always
22:16
thinking about. And I think we as women like
22:19
that's not like top of mind for. Us.
22:21
Oh my God. There's that difference and
22:25
especially if you have like kids in a household and you're trying
22:28
to to maintain that, right. And so there's that difference
22:32
in what's like top of mind for each one of you, the woman and
22:36
the man. So there's that imbalance right
22:39
there. Well, and we were talking and
22:40
interesting, you know, and but but for miss like interesting
22:43
enough and sorry, Logan, this is, you know, TMI.
22:45
He's probably going to shut down the podcast, but this is what
22:47
happens when I I I want to have a real conversation.
22:51
I want, I want to dwell deeper into the conversation he's going
22:54
to. Start getting like Shaylee and
22:55
anything you talk about, he's going to go.
22:57
You cannot talk about this on the broadcast.
22:59
Right, so he says he's got a low libido, but his girlfriend has a
23:03
high libido. Okay, okay.
23:05
So when he says, well, it's not transactional, well it's not
23:10
something obviously that he's pursuing, if that makes sense.
23:14
Great, but his girlfriend is right.
23:15
Oh she is. She's the one with the higher
23:17
libido, so. And he and he and, and as he
23:20
told me, it's like, well, he takes care of blah blah blah.
23:24
Well that's enough TMI for us cuz it's my kid.
23:25
But but and so I so I just reversed it.
23:28
I'm like, well, what about? That is transactional.
23:31
Right. But what?
23:32
But if? What if you're?
23:33
But what if you're the one with the high libido and the person
23:35
you're married to has the low libido or no libido?
23:38
Great. It's much harder.
23:40
It's much harder to navigate it and you know, and, and then
23:44
it's, I mean, it's almost like, it's almost like be, it's almost
23:47
better to be married to, to if two people have the same libido,
23:50
But we know that's not, not always like, what are the odds
23:53
of that? What are the odds?
23:54
That hardly ever happens and you go through stages of life where
23:59
whether it's you have children, you don't have the time, you're
24:02
exhausted, you get older, women go through the change of life,
24:07
all that kind of stuff. So all that starts to happen
24:09
and. We're dealing with, for us,
24:12
we're dealing with perimenopause, yeah.
24:14
I think we talked about. I don't know.
24:16
Yeah, I'm not a fan of. Course you're not, I mean.
24:20
It's like, it's like my very breathing upsets my wife.
24:24
You know what I'm saying? My my existence.
24:26
And it's funny. It didn't take perimenopause for
24:29
Megan for your breathing to irritate her like that's how
24:32
it's always been. But it's changed because, and
24:35
then it's funny, she did send me a video about perimenopause.
24:38
So it's not like I'm not listening because I am right?
24:40
And and so it's funny. So they had this couple and this
24:43
lady he she's cutting chopping up celery for dinner, right?
24:46
And he comes into the room, right?
24:47
And she goes and she goes, she goes, you I love, right?
24:52
And she does that, right? And then she goes and then she
24:55
goes your breathing, your existence, how you do the
24:59
dishwasher. Like she just does this whole
25:02
circle thing, right? She goes, I hate, right, you
25:06
know, so it's, it's so you're trying to NAV again, you're
25:09
trying to navigate that, like you said, the change, the change
25:12
life. And and so that was funny
25:14
because Megan did mention I think over the weekend, because
25:17
she was in Oregon. She comes home.
25:18
I'm like, I'm like, my wife's home from Oregon, right?
25:23
And I'm like, Hey, baby, what's going on?
25:25
Right? I mean, I don't actually do
25:26
that. But but, but I, but I tried to
25:28
make a move on my wife and she and I'm like, she should miss
25:32
me. And she's like, she goes, no,
25:33
not, I'm not feeling it. And I said and I and she goes,
25:37
and I love what she said she goes, Well, maybe when I, when I
25:39
get over this thing and I said, I said, honey, I did research.
25:43
This could be 6 to 10 years. Yeah, it could be a lot.
25:46
That's what I was gonna say. I'm not a monk.
25:51
I mean, I did, I don't, I did not take.
25:53
I am not celibate, you know. Anyway, so.
25:56
Great. So and I know now my son's
25:58
turned off by this whole conversation, so yeah.
26:00
He's yeah. He's done.
26:02
He's already punched out, but he's.
26:03
Going to be texting you. He's going to be mad now.
26:06
Because I I did too much right and.
26:08
Yeah. So, so I'm not saying the
26:10
relationship is transactional, but that was a word he used.
26:13
And I do believe that to some extent.
26:15
I know what you just said. When it's give give, it's give
26:19
and take that. Intake the the to maintain a
26:22
balance and like a mutual satisfaction like has to be
26:26
there and it kind of ebb and flows.
26:28
And then what happens? It's always consistent.
26:31
Yeah. And what happens in that give
26:32
and take situation where one person takes, takes, takes,
26:35
takes and this refuses to give. Just do you stay married?
26:39
Do you stay in the relationship? I mean, these are just you love
26:42
the person, but but it's like, if so, so even if you're
26:46
married, should one person spend their life basically in misery
26:50
to cater to that other person that is their love of their
26:52
life? Well, that has to be that,
26:55
right? And that has to be a decision
26:57
for that individual. Like what are you willing to put
27:01
up with and for how long? Like what are what are your deal
27:04
Breakers or what's going to be the breaking point I guess.
27:08
But. Difference.
27:09
And all of us put up with different things.
27:11
And all of us. But when you got married, has
27:14
you've been married a long, long time too, There was some expect,
27:19
I mean, because the person you marry, well, you're in that,
27:22
well, it's the honeymoon phase. I mean, obviously it does.
27:24
So it's like, so all your needs are getting met in that, in that
27:28
phase of life, all your needs. I mean, trust me, when I first
27:31
got married to Megan, all my needs got met in that phase.
27:34
Now we're moved into a different phase of life and it's a
27:36
different and it's a different phase.
27:37
And so some of it to me would be transactional to some extent,
27:43
you know? Any relationship is give and
27:45
take. That's yeah.
27:46
It's but it's not, you're not saying, but you're not saying
27:49
it. I mean you're not saying, hey,
27:50
I'll take you to Vegas if you do this.
27:52
I mean, that's, that's, that's it's a relationship.
27:54
Right. Yeah, You just, you just know
27:58
that there is that give and take.
28:00
And again, like some people keep score some people.
28:03
Right in. Relationships, right?
28:05
You did this, this and this, and I expect you to being beat
28:08
whatever it is. And so there are those
28:11
relationships now a lot of people are in actually so.
28:14
Yeah, it's amazing. It really is.
28:16
So I mean, I again, I guess when it comes to relationships, we'll
28:18
tie it off. It's just every relationship's
28:20
different. I was.
28:21
I don't think there's a road map.
28:24
Oh no, not at all. And again, it just depends on
28:27
that relationship what you as individuals.
28:32
What's going on in? Your dynamic what?
28:34
Yeah, but I will be. Curious to put up with.
28:36
I want to, I want to talk to Logan 20 years down the road.
28:39
I'll probably be dead, but but but if I'm still alive, I'm
28:42
like, I want to talk with him when he's 5053.
28:46
You'll be to see. What he has to say?
28:48
Yes. And I'll be 70 or whatever
28:50
something. Yeah, right.
28:51
So I want to. I I'm.
28:53
Like I'm like a cockroach. I'm not dying.
28:56
Yes, it'll. Still be at the Top 40 radio
28:59
station. I will be absolutely.
29:01
I'll be like spin on the heads, Rick Michaels, 75 years old, you
29:06
know, got a got a triple spin coming up next.
29:09
I am, I will say, and you've known me a long time.
29:13
I am so blessed and so fortunate because even at I will be 56 and
29:18
you, as long as you've known me, you've never seen me have any
29:20
health issues. No, but you also haven't been to
29:22
a doctor in a long time either. So, so so you're saying if I go
29:29
to the day, I've already said if I can't say it, I don't have it.
29:33
OK, So it better be it better be, you know, like so backache,
29:36
OK, I can say it. I can have it a heartache I
29:39
could say. I could have heartache because,
29:41
you know, heartburn. I mean, things I can say, but
29:43
things I cannot, I can't. I don't know any of that stuff.
29:46
OK. All right.
29:47
That makes it not real OK. So I'm curious in the comments
29:50
below. Transactional even even
29:54
unbeknownst, I think it's AI think it's a transactional
29:57
world. I think even relationships that
30:00
people are like, yeah, it's not transactional or blah, blah,
30:02
blah. It is to some degree because
30:05
again, there is ebb and flow in a relationship.
30:07
There's give and take. Whether or not you see it as
30:09
transactional, that's what is happening in your relationship.
30:13
I mean, Michelle has a Louis Vuitton purse.
30:15
Hey. How do you how do you get Louis
30:19
Vuitton purses? Well, I take my husband to Vegas
30:22
and we have a great time. Worked hard for those persons.
30:25
OK, I. Bet you did.
30:28
I bet you did. Hey, I will.
30:31
I will clarify before we tie this off.
30:33
Trust me, I know who butters the bread.
30:37
I do. I do my wife.
30:39
What? What hoop do you want me to go
30:41
through, honey? So I am going to 100% say women
30:46
rule the world. I've I have that.
30:47
There is no, there is no doubt because, because, because women.
30:53
Number one, I've always said this about women.
30:55
They don't need us. No look at all the women now
30:59
that have realized that and are finding Single Ladies buying
31:03
their own house, living their best life with their cats like.
31:07
If my, if Megan was not married to me, I swear she, she could
31:10
care. I mean, honestly, she could care
31:11
less and I think she'd be single and she'd be perfectly, 100%
31:15
happy with that. But guys, no, guys cannot be
31:19
alone, sorry. I mean, there's some they're
31:21
perpetual bachelor, but they're outgoing to the, the, the coffee
31:25
shack trying to get on the 22 year olds.
31:26
So. Yeah, they're still going to the
31:27
bars. Right, thank you.
31:29
Thank you. So, man, yes.
31:30
And I and I do that. Yeah.
31:33
It's like if women get divorces or or break up with people, they
31:36
can be alone for long periods of time.
31:39
The guy before he gets a divorce is usually out with I've always
31:43
said this. What's on the other side, right?
31:46
Like when someone when someone comes and goes, hey man, I want
31:48
I want to break up or I want a divorce.
31:50
I'm like, my first thought is who's on the other side?
31:53
Right. What is the reason most people
31:55
don't just leave? Because.
31:57
Right, that people don't leave for nothing, no matter what.
32:00
And I mean unless it's abuse or some horrific thing, we're,
32:04
we're just talking normal relationships.
32:06
It's like I'm always like, so whenever I'm at work or somebody
32:09
goes, oh, they're getting divorced or somebody's breaking
32:11
up and I'm like, oh, what? I wonder what's on the other
32:14
side? And I've had people go there.
32:16
There's nothing over there, nothing they're.
32:18
They're and then they find out that's.
32:19
Not true. When Christmas party, here they
32:21
come, here they come. I'm like really, you know, and
32:28
I'm always like, and me, I'm, you know, I'm that I when it
32:31
comes to keeping score that way, I am the first person that goes
32:34
told you so told you told you. All right, what other exciting
32:40
things are going on? Did you see what Gene Simmons
32:42
said? I wouldn't have to ask you about
32:44
this comment because I was like Oh my God.
32:47
Do you want to clarify what what he did?
32:50
Well, yeah, I wrote it down just so that like, I didn't misquote
32:53
him so. Get the quote right.
32:56
Yeah, so he said that Hollywood stars should kiss their
33:00
political activism goodbye. He said that celebrities should
33:04
quit talking about politics and keep their opinion to
33:07
themselves. He said, quote, do your art and
33:10
shut up. Nobody is interested in your
33:13
opinion. That includes me.
33:15
End Quote. He also said quote, people in
33:17
America work hard for a living and they don't want to be
33:20
lectured to by people who live in mansions and Dr. Royce, Rolls
33:24
Royces. I can never say that it's time
33:27
for everyone and entertain in the entertainment industry to
33:30
shut their pie hole and do their art.
33:33
End Quote. That's exactly what he said and
33:36
I, I'm conflicted on this because you and I have both been
33:40
censored. Being on the radio like.
33:42
What we could. Yes, what we couldn't couldn't
33:44
talk about or certain right. We've talked about the whole
33:48
Pepsi, right. We've talked about the whole
33:49
Pepsi Coke thing. What happened to us right right.
33:53
So I'm conflicted in that because I feel like we should
33:57
have a right to our opinion regardless of what we do for a
33:59
living. So you're saying, so basically
34:01
he's saying because you're an actor or you're a singer, you're
34:03
a celebrity that you don't get to have an opinion or you don't
34:07
get to voice that opinion. I mean, that's essentially what
34:10
he's saying. Right, So I, I'm with you in
34:13
the, in the fact that, OK, so we work at radio stations, right?
34:18
Yes. And let's say, let's say Pepsi
34:20
is our biggest client or whatever.
34:22
We don't like to be censored or told not what to do.
34:25
But I, but I'm more cognitive. If I'm working for somebody,
34:29
they're employing me. So, so it's funny.
34:32
So I work at country radio. And so I know that it's God.
34:36
It's God, country, the Bible, the American flag, Pledge of
34:39
Allegiance, all of that. I don't go on the air or very
34:43
rarely will ever go on the air #1 politically just because
34:47
we're, I'm just not going to align with the with that, you
34:50
know, and I do align, I shouldn't, I do align with some
34:52
of that, just just not at, at that extent.
34:55
And so, no, Yeah, so, so it's one of those things.
34:59
So but I look at like they're employing me to do a job.
35:01
They're my employer. So I'm going to respect.
35:04
It's kind of like for the most part, people of people don't
35:06
realize news talk radio is is red.
35:11
I'm not redneck. I call it red meat, but it's
35:14
it's conservative based. It's it for the most part that
35:17
is the only successful formats generally in small towns from
35:21
news from news talkers. You're not going to find a
35:23
liberal news talk radio station in Yakima or tri-cities or any
35:27
of that. You just not there's just not
35:29
enough of base there for it. And even in Seattle, even in
35:32
Seattle, those those there might be there, but they don't do as
35:35
well as the conservative Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity's Glenn
35:39
Beck. I mean, it just thrown that red
35:40
meat out there. One thing I respected about Andy
35:43
Winford because he was a liberal and he was the program director
35:46
of KIT back in the day. He went to Dave Edel and said,
35:49
man, I'm not hearing enough red meat.
35:50
He goes, he goes, you had the Superintendent of schools in.
35:53
Why is it, why is it a, you know, a pleasant interview?
35:57
Tell him, you know, ask him, why are they overspending?
35:59
Look, let's take a look at the budget because you say your
36:01
values are one thing, right? But when you're interviewing
36:05
somebody, you're not asking the hard questions or you're not
36:08
asking the questions that if you say that is who you are, you
36:11
should be doing. And so I, I respected that
36:14
because he didn't come in and try to make the radio station
36:18
his viewpoint. He came in and said, this is the
36:20
radio station, this is the brand.
36:21
So I expect it to be what it says it's going to be.
36:24
It's the same for we've talked about you can't just pick the
36:28
music for the radio station based on what you like.
36:31
Like it's not about what you like music wise.
36:34
Right. So I'm saying, so for you, I'm
36:36
saying if I'm employed by somebody, OK, I can play by
36:38
those rules because I know the rules I'm playing by, right?
36:41
So those are the rules I'm playing by now if I am an
36:44
independent contractor, if I am a musician, it's my if I own
36:48
Journey Inc or if I'm Mr. Mr. Inc or if I'm the lead singer of
36:52
a band or whatever. I wish I owned that, but but now
36:58
I'm not going to sidestep, but I will say don't Do you like it
37:01
better when you discover that your favorite musical artist
37:04
leans the way you do? Yes, of course I would be lying
37:08
if I said no. If I said no, it doesn't matter.
37:11
That's that's bullshit and that's how all of us are.
37:14
It's not just me. But for me it's an added bonus,
37:16
yes, when I'm enjoying some music and I'm like, oh, they
37:19
lean politically my way. Oh great.
37:22
I mean they don't throw 3 on everything.
37:23
Great man, but if I know someone doesn't, that doesn't mean I'm
37:27
just going to not watch some movies or not whatever it is.
37:31
Great, great example. You know, you know, and I'll use
37:33
my love for Mr. Mr. Richard Page.
37:36
My, you know, my, my guy, right? Well, he's, he lives in Malibu
37:41
and he's a Democrat because he posted it.
37:43
So that's how I know he is, you know what I'm saying?
37:45
I mean, but he, but he, he does not get political very, very
37:48
seldom. And the last time he did a
37:49
video, he had a hat that said Make America Kind Again.
37:53
A, a, a blue hat, right? But he does not.
37:55
I mean, but that pretty much tells me where he's at.
37:57
If he's got a hat that says Make America Kind Again, tells me
37:59
where he's at. Now, the guitarist in the band,
38:02
well, he's as conservative. He's a duck hunter, you know
38:05
what I'm saying? He's a Ted Nugent.
38:07
He's a, you know, he's a rock, rock guy, right?
38:11
So, so and not to say that that's who he is, but you can
38:14
pretty much tell he's conservative.
38:17
But they're in the same band. They're in the same band.
38:19
They get along, they're in the same band.
38:20
They like we. Can all get along.
38:22
Yes, their their mutual respect about those situations.
38:25
So it's one of those things where I think that if you again,
38:30
there are consequences to free speech.
38:32
So if you are one way, let's say you are ultra woke and and
38:37
someone doesn't cast you in the movie, I think that's their
38:40
choice. I mean, that's free enterprise.
38:43
Right. If you don't but but most most
38:45
of the time they align. I also don't believe that when I
38:48
hear Chris Pratt or even, Oh my gosh, he's the guy who was on
38:53
Chuck. You know who I'm talking about.
38:55
These are, these are conservatives.
38:57
These are conservatives in Hollywood.
38:59
Are you talking? About Scott Bale.
39:00
No. Well, Scott Bale's a great
39:02
example. I do not I do not believe that
39:05
they're also blackballed, you know what I'm saying?
39:07
Right. Like I think if they're right to
39:09
the park, they're going to get cast for the part.
39:11
Yes. Yeah.
39:12
So I don't think that there's some dark machine saying, well,
39:15
I don't like Scott Bale. No, Scott Bale was a star in the
39:18
80s. Sorry.
39:19
I mean, so. And when was the last time Scott
39:21
Bale was relevant? So.
39:24
Reality show on VH1 which was in what like 2000 and something or
39:28
right? Exactly.
39:29
I married Scott Baio or whatever that show was.
39:31
Scott Bale at 4:00. That's what it was.
39:33
See, I'm giving you enough respect.
39:34
Scott Baio. I know what the name of the show
39:36
is. Scott Baio at 40.
39:38
Yes, Scott Baio at 40. And you can even and you can
39:41
even Google it. So I think that like always,
39:44
there's consequences and and Dolly, I know Dolly, who we all
39:47
love. Dolly Parton has often said that
39:51
she doesn't talk politics and she doesn't.
39:53
She doesn't. She doesn't.
39:54
But I believe and I. But she's kind and the stuff
39:57
that she does, if you look at. Thank you.
40:00
No, you just said it. You just said it.
40:03
I think you can pretty much tell they don't have to say anything.
40:07
No. In it in in the actions that
40:09
they do. Yes.
40:11
So and so, yeah, you see that. I think you see that a lot.
40:16
I see. I think you.
40:17
I see, I think you see that with Jeff Bezos and his ex-wife.
40:21
Oh, definitely. Now you know what?
40:23
I know exactly where they align. I think she doesn't have to come
40:25
out and tell me anything. I know where she aligns and what
40:29
and what her viewpoint is. And I and I know what his
40:32
viewpoints are. There's no doubt in my mind.
40:34
So I, I disagree with Jean. I mean, I understand you're on
40:38
the fence. You know, I think if you're
40:40
working for somebody, then you need to know the parameters and
40:42
what you're working. But I also think that no one has
40:46
a right to for you not to have your opinion and just.
40:49
Censor you like you know we like that's what we have the 1st
40:52
Amendment for so but but then if you who needs their ball?
40:59
Hang on, I want to go toss this outside.
41:01
OK, dog break. Well, yeah, he's he's sitting
41:06
here whining. I don't know if you heard him.
41:07
Did you hear him whimpering? No, I haven't heard him.
41:09
The mailman hasn't came by lately.
41:11
Or the. Delivery guy, I'm sure he's
41:13
going to be here anytime. So hang on, hang on, go toss.
41:16
Ball break, OK. I couldn't figure out why he was
41:19
whimpering and whining, but the ball was at my feet.
41:23
So anyway, he's fine. You're 14 years old.
41:27
What's that? He's like the ball is right
41:29
here. What are you doing that's?
41:32
Why you was whipping? So yes, I understand you being
41:35
torn on that, but I think everybody's allowed and it's,
41:38
it's America, it's a free country and we're allowed to
41:41
have our, our, our viewpoint. Now, if there's consequences
41:44
because of it, well, that's on that person.
41:46
Right, That's the risk you take. It's no different than when we
41:49
post stuff on social media. You run the risk of the
41:54
consequences of what you post, whether that's from your family,
41:58
from your job, whatever it is so.
42:00
I learned that lesson from my goodness.
42:03
I learned that from the Biden situation or the Harris
42:05
situation. And I, I, I don't know how many
42:07
friends you have on Facebook. I've got like, I've got like
42:10
3000 friends on Facebook. I only have like 500 but my blue
42:13
sky though is where it's at. Like I have over 11,000
42:16
followers. Thank you.
42:17
Well, well of. Course because and and blue sky
42:19
lines with what you what, where you live and no, I get that So,
42:23
so for me on my Facebook, I've got about 3000 people.
42:26
I mean, it's not like I'm actively searching for people,
42:28
but I but for me, my face ball, my Facebook is my catch all.
42:32
So it's got it's got it's got radio station listeners, it's
42:35
got celebs, whatever, whatever, friends, family, blah, blah,
42:40
blah. And I have learned some hard
42:42
lesson lessons of of posting up there because people get brutal
42:47
up there and then they also fight among themselves.
42:49
Not me out there fighting down below with among themselves on
42:52
those situations. And so, so it's funny when I do
42:55
have my conservative friends and my and my and my liberal friends
42:58
going at it, I'm like, whoa, holy cow, get out, get out of
43:01
the way. So it's, it's, it is
43:03
interesting. So, but I think that that by by
43:06
saying because you have a, by saying because you have a
43:09
particular trade, you're not allowed, you have an opinion
43:12
that's. Just like then let's then let's
43:14
make this blanket and everyone because like in.
43:18
You're not saying? You're not, Yeah.
43:19
You're not saying this to an accountant or a lawyer or a
43:22
waitress, whatever it is. Then let's let's make this
43:26
blanket. Everybody can't talk politics.
43:29
I don't want to see your shit on social media.
43:31
I'm not posting it, so I don't want to see yours.
43:34
Like, let's just Yeah. But then again, that's running
43:36
into the 1st Amendment that's suppressing everybody's right to
43:40
free speech and our opinions and.
43:43
I like, I like what Megan does. So Megan, it was funny.
43:46
Megan worked at the YMCA for 14 years before she went out to PNL
43:50
and she didn't friend any of them on her social work, at her
43:54
work and then. That's what my husband does a
43:56
little bit. And then once she went to PNL.
43:58
Once she went to PNL, then there was a few that she friended that
44:02
she liked because she said, I don't want them to see if, if I
44:05
do decide to post something religious or political, they,
44:09
they don't need to see it. Or, you know, I don't, I don't
44:11
need the hassle at work about whatever.
44:13
And I always I kind of, I respected that.
44:15
I kind of feel like you and I are more.
44:17
I know my, my wife, Oh my gosh, we got into this big argument or
44:20
not an argument we got in this discussion is do you consider
44:24
radio people celebrities? No.
44:26
Thank you. Thank.
44:28
You, we're not even like. She was at, she was at a mixer
44:34
or something. She.
44:35
Say we are. No, she just says she goes.
44:38
She goes, she was at a mixer. And they were like, oh, tell us
44:40
something that we don't know about you, Megan.
44:43
And she goes, oh, well, I'm married to a local celebrity,
44:46
you know? And then she came home and told
44:48
me, and I said, why'd you say that?
44:50
Right, we get up that. I'm like, I'm not a celebrity.
44:54
And she goes and then she throw it back at me and she goes,
44:56
well, is Kurt Cartier a celebrity?
44:58
I said yes, she got this. Faith Martin, a celebrity.
45:01
And I said, well, yes, Faith, is Michaels a celebrity?
45:06
Because I'm not. I'm not a celebrity.
45:08
I think that's probably because we don't, because we're so hard
45:13
on ourselves, we're so critical of ourselves.
45:15
We don't think about, we don't see ourselves in that light like
45:19
how everybody else sees us, like we don't see ourselves in that
45:24
way at all. And whether that's our spouse,
45:29
the people that we know, whatever it is, and they see us
45:33
in that light. When they listen to us day in
45:35
and day out on the radio, they see us in that light and we
45:39
don't see ourselves as that person or whoever they think we
45:43
are, celebrity or whatever it is.
45:45
Well, I think if I think anything, I think D list
45:48
celebrity if I. ZI said ZZ list.
45:51
We don't even make the Z list. But, but I mean, but I can't
45:55
tell a lie and say that I don't, I don't get, I mean, around
45:58
tri-cities I do get recognized or when I'm in a, in a, when I'm
46:01
in a city, when I'm in a situation.
46:03
So Megan and I went and we hosted her Seroptimist Bunco
46:07
nights and I and I made a joke and I called us the Bickersons.
46:10
So we're the we're the Bickersons.
46:12
So we're the Bickersons. So we both were on the mic from
46:14
the mic now and Megan readily available.
46:17
It says my husband is way better on the microphone than I am.
46:20
You know, she gets all nervous and all that and I just grew up
46:23
and we just be the. Most people do.
46:25
But but I but I didn't, I didn't say my name.
46:29
And so my wife was upset. She's like, she goes, she goes.
46:32
They keep asking how they know your voice and you need to say
46:35
your name. You need to say where you're
46:37
from and what's your name, as I'm not going to say my name.
46:39
You know, I'm here hosting. I'm your husband.
46:42
I'm here hosting Bunco night. I don't even drag radio into
46:45
this thing. And so it was so funny, was so.
46:48
So in a sense, are you a local celebrity to some extent?
46:51
Z list. All right.
46:52
OK, so. But yeah, I'm with you.
46:54
We're allowed to have opinions. Everybody, everybody should have
46:56
an opinion. But that's the First Amendment,
46:58
too. Right.
47:00
You're allowed to have an opinion, but but the consequence
47:03
is that plays out totally different.
47:05
But to have an artist because they're an artist.
47:07
Right, because you're an actor or whatever celebrity, whatever
47:11
it is you are, whether that's like a sports celebrity, that
47:14
means they can't have an opinion either then?
47:16
Right. And my my favorite thing that I
47:18
always tell people is the only opinion that you want coming out
47:22
of my mouth is your opinion. Then we can agree that's what
47:26
you, that's what you want. You want me to meet me for the
47:28
first time? Hey, I'm Jim.
47:30
Hey, I'm Rick. Nice to meet you.
47:31
You want me to have the exact same opinion coming out of my
47:34
mouth? That's coming out of your mouth.
47:36
And then if it isn't then you're like, well, shut your pie hole.
47:40
Right, which is the question that you asked me.
47:43
Like, do I like my artist better when I know that their political
47:47
views align with myself? It's the same.
47:49
It's kind of the same thing. Of course I do.
47:52
But I but I do. I mean, I like being pleasantly
47:56
surprised. Yeah, yeah.
47:57
Right. I mean, it was one of those
47:58
things, and I even said this, it was so funny, was my foster
48:03
family, who I just absolutely adore.
48:05
As you know, there are plenty of conservatives.
48:08
So my, I have foster brothers and I have foster sisters now
48:11
They're my goodness. They're, they're in their 70s,
48:14
they're in their 80s because remember that, you know all
48:16
that. So most of them, multiple of
48:19
them are conservative. And then I have my, my younger,
48:22
my younger sister, my, my favorite.
48:24
Well, I won't say my favorite, but my my the.
48:27
But I always say she's my favorite because I just.
48:30
Adore. But do your other siblings know
48:31
that you say that though? Oh, they shouldn't.
48:33
She was around when I so when I was so they were remember they
48:36
were all adults. They were all adults when I was
48:39
the foster kid to the bogans. And so Kathy was 19.
48:44
She was the closest to your age. Right, right.
48:46
And so I was 8, so I was 8. Kathy was 19/18/19.
48:49
And then I got to go when she was in college, I got to go stay
48:52
in the dorm with her and her friend, things like that.
48:55
So and so she leans liberal. She's liberal.
48:58
She's a teacher. Her husband's a teacher.
49:00
Their their daughter's a principal, their son's a
49:03
teacher. He's in Saudi Arabia right now.
49:04
They're all teachers. So you kind of sort of know
49:07
where they lead, right? But but then my my foster
49:10
brother, Doug, he's a rancher and he lives in Riggins, Idaho,
49:13
and he's got 200 head of cattle. Well, guess you know where
49:17
that's going to lean. And then he has his kids.
49:20
Necessarily doesn't. No, but necessarily, not
49:22
necessarily, but but his kid, he, he has a great kid.
49:26
They're all wonderful people. But there's James and Jenna,
49:29
which are his kids, right? Well, guess what?
49:32
They're ranchers. So where do they lean
49:34
politically? It's not a it's not for me.
49:36
It's not rocket science. So for me, the biggest joy
49:40
because I never, my foster parents never talked about it at
49:43
all, period. So great religion and politics
49:47
they never talked about. They did believe in God.
49:49
I talked about it in my book. They did.
49:51
But they never shoved it down. They never said, you're going to
49:52
believe and you're going to be this.
49:54
Well, I have finally asked Kathy.
49:56
I have finally asked Kathy. I said, you know, I don't, I
49:58
don't know what mom and dad was. And she goes, and she goes, oh,
50:01
they were proud Democrats. Not a surprise.
50:05
And they're coming from the great they were, Remember, they
50:07
came from the Great Depression. Right.
50:09
And then I thought to myself, and I put my brakes on and went,
50:12
oh, wait a minute. Were they the flip Democrats or,
50:15
you know, I'm, I started thinking, wait a minute, are
50:18
they the Southern Democrats? You know.
50:20
Because remember, the parties flipped.
50:22
Yeah, so I know so and I don't we sometimes.
50:25
Forget about that like. Right.
50:27
And so I said, Oh my God, are they the Jew pro Democrats?
50:29
Is that what what what I mean, you know, God, that's so funny.
50:32
No, I thought about it. I was like, Oh my God, because
50:34
you know, they were in their my dad was, you know, in the in the
50:37
in the 80s he was in as he was close to 80 when in the early
50:40
80s, seventy 8 or whatever. So immediately I thought, Oh my
50:43
God, what? What?
50:44
And I never went, I never went back to Kathy.
50:46
I never went back to Kathy and said what Democrats they were.
50:48
But I, I just, I just take it went forward.
50:50
I take it as face value that they're my kind of Democrats.
50:53
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's the same.
50:55
We've talked about my grandma. How?
50:57
Yeah. Which they probably all were
51:00
around the same age. She, when I asked her who she
51:03
was voting for and she told me, you know, my vote is sacred.
51:07
And I never saw her, like, talk politics or religion to people,
51:10
even though she was religious. She went to church every Sunday.
51:13
Yeah, Yeah. Shout out to Mount Olive
51:15
Lutheran Church. Like, that's where she went
51:17
every single Sunday. But she didn't force that on
51:22
people or talk about it wasn't something that was sacred to
51:25
them, right? It wasn't.
51:26
And so is that where we need to get back to?
51:29
I I think to some extent because it's like, it's like some
51:32
people, it's interesting how people make it their whole
51:35
personality, I guess. I guess that's what's really
51:38
changed, I don't think. It and social media.
51:41
Social media has made it yeah, because so when I'm so even
51:44
though I've got like like you, I've got like 3000 social media
51:46
from Facebook friends or whatever, it's like, but I don't
51:50
mind seeing. I mean, even if they're a
51:51
Trumper. Okay, so you're a Trumper, but
51:53
if every post is Trump, yes. Then I'm like.
51:56
That's your, that's. Your thing.
51:58
Right, right. I'm not, I'm not you can be
52:00
conservative. There's nothing wrong being
52:01
concerned, whatever, but it's like, but if every because at
52:04
least I mean, then I'm kind of like, gosh, don't you?
52:07
Do you like baseball? Do you like football?
52:09
Do you have hobbies? What music do you like?
52:11
Do you like watching movies? Do you like watching TV?
52:15
Do you have? I'm more interested in who.
52:17
Do you like? Right, right.
52:19
I want to see more of, well, who, Who are you besides?
52:22
This is are you as a person. Yeah, yeah.
52:24
This is the only thing you present to me as a person.
52:27
I don't even know, you know, if I don't know anything else about
52:30
else about you so great. But yeah, you're allowed to have
52:35
that opinion. Thanks, Gene Simmons.
52:36
Now shut your pie hole. Yeah, there's a guy who should
52:39
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