Latest / The Piano Maven with Jed Distler / Jed's Piano Box Set Wish List
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- 0:00This is Jed Distler, and welcome to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast guide to piano
- 0:15recordings.
- 0:16This is our second to last episode for 2024, and I've decided that we will start what
- 0:24I'll call season number two, right when the new year starts.
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- 0:52recordings of the 32 piano sonatas by Beethoven.
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- 1:45You will be glad that you did.
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- 1:49But let's get to the topic of this episode, which is the topic of box sets that I would
- 1:58like to see happen.
- 2:01Around the time that my friend and colleague, David Hurwitz, began his YouTube channel,
- 2:08and he started making videos for the channel, he posted a video about box set projects that
- 2:15he really wanted to see happen.
- 2:17And quite a few of these actually did come to pass.
- 2:21For example, those complete Eugene Ormandy box sets, the Sony BMG box set containing
- 2:30the complete RCA and Columbia recordings of Dimitri Metropolis.
- 2:35I can't remember if Dave had actually mentioned any piano box sets that he wanted to see happen
- 2:43in that video.
- 2:45But I have been cultivating a wish list of piano boxes for years, and as you probably
- 2:53would imagine, my list goes on forever.
- 2:56And my list is overly ambitious, and in many cases, the list has positively unrealistic
- 3:05items, or the kind of items that appeal more to piano geeks than piano mavens, or piano
- 3:12crazies, which are even crazier than geeks.
- 3:17Anyway, I have made a list of 10 piano box sets that I suspect would fall within a group
- 3:27consensus pretty much.
- 3:29And also, these are projects that I think are very doable and really quite plausible.
- 3:37And I think the record companies involved would really be well-served in putting these
- 3:43out.
- 3:44And only in a few cases are any of these 10 ideas, let's say, esoteric.
- 3:50So we have 10 box sets of piano recordings that I would like to see happen.
- 3:57So here's my first box set idea.
- 4:00Number one, I would like to see Warner Classics, or even APR, give us a complete edition of
- 4:08the British pianist Solomon's commercial recordings.
- 4:13Most of what he recorded was for the EMI or the HMV labels.
- 4:18He did record for British Columbia before World War II, and I'm sure that Warner Classics
- 4:25can get hold of the Columbia items.
- 4:28But we have never, never, never had an absolutely complete and systematic reissue of Solomon's
- 4:36complete recordings.
- 4:38And they all should be remastered from scratch and properly pitched.
- 4:44Now, I don't know how many CDs that would take up, but I think there is certainly a
- 4:49market for it.
- 4:50To be sure, we've had many Solomon reissues, we had the EMI icon box, profile box set,
- 5:00and then there were all those single releases on the testament label.
- 5:05But there's also material that still has not turned up on CD from Solomon's discography,
- 5:11so far as I know.
- 5:13So that's my box set request number one.
- 5:17The complete and freshly remastered Solomon.
- 5:22Number two, this may not really be a box set, and it may only occupy a couple of CDs.
- 5:31But that said, I would love to see the complete recordings that Lucas Foss made for the American
- 5:40Deka label as a pianist.
- 5:44We all know Lucas Foss as a composer and as a conductor, but he was an absolutely amazing
- 5:51pianist, especially as a Bach player.
- 5:54And by the way, here's a true story.
- 5:56Lucas Foss was playing the Bach D minor concerto from the piano in concert, conducting from
- 6:02the piano, and Glenn Gould was in the audience.
- 6:06So Gould goes backstage and Lucas Foss sees him and he says, Glenn, why are you here?
- 6:13And Glenn Gould said, because you're the only one who plays this concerto right.
- 6:17Well, at least that's what Lucas Foss told me when I interviewed him many, many years
- 6:22ago.
- 6:23Anyway, for American Deka, Lucas Foss recorded the Bach D minor and F minor concertos conducting
- 6:32the Zimblor Sinfonietta.
- 6:34He also conducted the Zimblor Sinfonietta from the piano in the Hindemith for temperaments.
- 6:41I am not sure if that was the first commercial recording of that piece, but it's a wonderful,
- 6:47wonderful performance.
- 6:49And Lucas Foss also was the pianist in a recording of his second piano concerto that came out
- 6:55on American Deka.
- 6:57And he did one solo piano LP for American Deka that consisted of the Bach three-part
- 7:03inventions, the symphonias.
- 7:06And I have that on LP, and it's just extraordinary Bach playing.
- 7:11For years, I have been asking Cyrus Mayer Homgy of Australian Eloquence to bring out
- 7:18a reissue of all the Lucas Foss piano recordings on American Deka.
- 7:23I think it can be done and it should be done.
- 7:26These are really, really special recordings.
- 7:29Concert number three, the recordings that the great Brazilian pianist Guilmar Novaes
- 7:36made for the Vox label from the late 1940s until I think the late 50s or the early 60s.
- 7:46They've mostly appeared on various CD and download reissues, but there has never been
- 7:52a truly complete and systematic Guilmar Novaes Vox recordings edition.
- 8:00Now wouldn't it be great to have her entire Vox output remastered and all shoved into
- 8:07a Vox?
- 8:08I mean, and all shoved into a box, original jacket style?
- 8:13I think that would be a great idea and it's something that I think is really needed.
- 8:18Every time the Vox catalog gets a new distributor or if there's a new person overseeing the
- 8:26catalog, I always reach out to the people involved and I pitch this project.
- 8:33Has anyone ever responded so far?
- 8:36No, of course not.
- 8:37I always get crickets.
- 8:39But I think this really can be done and I think there's a market for it.
- 8:44So come on, let's get the complete Guilmar Novaes on the Vox label all in a box set.
- 8:52And if you can do it original jacket style, so much the better.
- 8:57Now here is box set request number four.
- 9:01And with this, I'm getting into totally esoteric territory.
- 9:05And this may not be a box set that would have general appeal.
- 9:09I think it would appeal to piano geeks for certain.
- 9:15This would be a box set that contains the complete international piano archives recordings
- 9:21of Irvin Nirachazi.
- 9:24Nirachazi, who lived from 1903 until 1987, was one of the most highly scrutinized child
- 9:33prodigies ever and he astonished audiences as a child and as a teenager.
- 9:41But when he came to New York in his late teens, after making a pretty sensational debut, his
- 9:47career and his life began to unravel as a result of bad luck plus his own impossible
- 9:55temperament.
- 9:57Basically throughout his adult life, he wound up living in cheap hotels, basically in poverty.
- 10:05And he would spend most of his time prolifically composing the most lugubrious music ever.
- 10:12And he would have endless sexual entanglements that resulted in 10 marriages.
- 10:19But in 1972 or 1973, he started playing again in public after having not played in many,
- 10:28many, many years.
- 10:29And he was rediscovered by a small coterie of piano fans.
- 10:34And eventually, he came to the attention of Gregor Benko, the founder of the International
- 10:40Piano Archives, who helped Nirachazi launch a comeback.
- 10:45And thanks to some grant money from the Ford Foundation, Nirachazi was able to make some
- 10:52studio recordings in 1978 for the International Piano Archives.
- 10:58Gregor Benko also had produced some studio recordings with Nirachazi in 1974, released
- 11:05on the IPA's label.
- 11:08Anyway, what happened in the late 70s, Nirachazi suddenly got lots of press attention as the
- 11:14so-called Skid Row pianist, a pianist who didn't own a piano and never practiced.
- 11:21Yet, he could still make tremendous sounds.
- 11:25And he had this compelling, if rather controversial, interpretive personality just dealing in extremes.
- 11:35And with a lot of stumbles and wrong notes and all kinds of weird stuff happening pianistically
- 11:43wise, a lot of piano professionals considered Nirachazi to be a joke.
- 11:49But others did find him fascinating and compelling on his own terms.
- 11:55In any case, Nirachazi was a difficult figure.
- 11:59Yet, there is something there in his music making for sure.
- 12:03You just have to listen and decide for yourself.
- 12:06So I think it might be a good idea to see all of his released and unreleased International
- 12:13Piano Archive studio recordings boxed up, plus any private recordings of Nirachazi that
- 12:21have not yet been published by Sonnetto Classics, which is the small label that has released
- 12:29several Nirachazi concerts complete, including his famous Old First Church 1973 concert.
- 12:37And maybe, just maybe, this box set could include Nirachazi's 1980 and 1982 concerts
- 12:46in Japan complete.
- 12:49That would be kind of interesting.
- 12:50But at least all of the IPA, International Piano Archive's studio material should finally
- 12:57come out all together under one roof.
- 13:01The question is, what label could do this?
- 13:04I really don't know.
- 13:06But it's just an idea.
- 13:08OK, let's get off of Nirachazi and let's get back to reality and reasonable piano maveness.
- 13:19Box set number five that I would like to see would be a really wonderful Beethoven cycle
- 13:25that came out in 1970 on the Valois label on LP to mark the composer's 200th birthday.
- 13:34This was a cycle encompassing 12 LPs.
- 13:39And it featured the wonderful Norwegian pianist Robert Riefling.
- 13:44And you can hear transfers of the LPs of Riefling's Beethoven cycle on YouTube.
- 13:51And these are very aristocratic and intelligently planned and technically excellent performances.
- 13:58And I'd love to see a newly transferred digital edition either on CD or through downloadable
- 14:05files.
- 14:06This is a Beethoven cycle that I've enjoyed for many years.
- 14:09And even though the world honestly doesn't need another Beethoven sonata cycle, I've
- 14:15always said that excellence is its own justification.
- 14:19And I think that reissuing Robert Riefling's Beethoven cycle from 1970 or around that time
- 14:28would really draw attention to this pianist's wonderful musicianship.
- 14:34Now for box set number six, the American Pro Art label that was active in the 1980s and
- 14:431980s recorded a lot of material with Peter Sirkin.
- 14:49And some of these Peter Sirkin recordings have been licensed to various groups for download
- 14:55purposes.
- 14:56I've talked about the Bach Guild big box download bundles that have revived some of the Pro
- 15:04Art catalog.
- 15:06Anyway, Peter Sirkin recorded extensively for Pro Art.
- 15:10Some of his recordings for that label can be found in these download bundles, but not
- 15:15all of them have appeared.
- 15:17He recorded not just on a modern Steinway, but also some of his Pro Art recordings were
- 15:23made on a forte piano.
- 15:25And there's a lot of wonderful material here.
- 15:28He recorded Bach's Goldberg variations with all the repeats and the Italian concerto.
- 15:35He recorded the late Beethoven sonatas on forte piano and he made a Steinway version
- 15:40of the Beethoven Hammerklavier sonata that has not been available for years.
- 15:46But this is one of my absolute favorite Hammerklavier recordings on record.
- 15:51He recorded the Diabelli variations for Pro Art.
- 15:55He did some Mozart solo works.
- 15:59He did a Chopin disc.
- 16:01He recorded the two Brahms concertos, which I find are rather underplayed.
- 16:06But still, I think that maybe musical concepts would be the label to bring out the complete
- 16:13Peter Sirkin Pro Art catalog and shove it all in a box, original jacket style.
- 16:19Why not?
- 16:20I mean, musical concepts already brought out the late Beethoven sonatas on forte piano,
- 16:26so why don't they go the whole hog, so to speak?
- 16:30So that's box set number six on my list, the complete Peter Sirkin on Pro Art.
- 16:36Now this next box set again may not turn out to be a box set.
- 16:42Maybe it's only two CDs, maybe a third CD.
- 16:46I don't know.
- 16:47But this is something that I would love to see happen.
- 16:51When the American pianist Anne Shine was in her early 20s, she recorded a series of releases
- 16:58for the American CAP label.
- 17:00That's K-A-P-P. CAP was a subsidiary of American DECA and part of that family of labels.
- 17:09And it's now controlled by Universal Classics, so far as I know.
- 17:14I think they have all of the American DECA and Westminster labels.
- 17:21Anyway, Anne Shine's recordings for CAP were highly acclaimed, and justifiably so.
- 17:28And they've had kind of a cult following.
- 17:30There was one release on the MCA label on CD, oh, maybe about 20 or so years ago, maybe
- 17:3730 years ago.
- 17:38I can't remember.
- 17:40And this release coupled Anne Shine's recital of etudes along with the four Chopin scherzos.
- 17:49These were two LPs on one CD.
- 17:53And she also recorded an excellent Rachmaninoff third concerto for CAP.
- 17:58And also for the label, she recorded Chopin's second concerto.
- 18:02I cannot think off the top of my head if she did more recordings for CAP.
- 18:09But a few years ago, I did meet someone at a small label who was seriously thinking about
- 18:14reissuing the Anne Shine CAP recordings.
- 18:18But since CAP, as I said before, is controlled by Universal Classics, maybe this might be
- 18:25another project for Australian eloquence.
- 18:28I guess it would take two CDs, maybe a third CD.
- 18:31So this really isn't a big box, so to speak.
- 18:34But this would be a wonderful reissue that I think a lot of people would enjoy.
- 18:40The complete CAP recordings by Anne Shine.
- 18:44So that's my box set or box set-ish release number seven.
- 18:50Box set number eight on my list of box sets I would like to see.
- 18:55Well, I'm going to slightly cheat here because I'm going to propose the same artist in two
- 19:02different box sets.
- 19:04From Warner Classics, I would like to see this label gather all of Shura Cherkasky's
- 19:12HMV and EMI recordings and remaster them all from scratch.
- 19:18We've never had Cherkasky's HMV and EMI recordings brought all together in one absolutely complete
- 19:26collection.
- 19:27So what about it?
- 19:28And the same goes for Universal Classics.
- 19:31Could Australian eloquence, again, shove all of the Shura Cherkasky recordings for Luazzo
- 19:39Lira, British Deka, Deutsche Gramophone, and ASV in a box, original jacket style?
- 19:49And would these also include the series of British Deka releases drawn from BBC material
- 19:57and have everything properly pitched while we're at it?
- 20:00I know there's a market for both of these box set ideas, the complete Shura Cherkasky
- 20:06on Warner and the complete Shura Cherkasky on Universal.
- 20:11Box set number nine.
- 20:14The piano duo of Jarrah Tull and Andreas Groteisen have made numerous CDs for Sony Classical.
- 20:23And not just the complete Schubert piano four hands repertoire, but tons of other releases
- 20:29featuring interesting and really varied repertoire.
- 20:32I have no idea how many CDs these pianists have made for Sony altogether.
- 20:39But I think a complete Tull and Groteisen duo recordings for Sony would make a really
- 20:47cool multi-disc big box set.
- 20:50And you'd get uniformly excellent recordings encompassing a great deal of the one piano
- 20:57four hands and two piano repertoire.
- 21:00I think this would really fill a need repertoire wise and it would be so easy to put this together,
- 21:06original jacket style of course.
- 21:09And now that we've landed at planet Sony BMG, I've come to the holy grail of my piano box
- 21:18set requests.
- 21:20This is box set number 10.
- 21:22And if you are a fan of Vladimir Horowitz, you know exactly where I am going with this.
- 21:29Just about every Vladimir Horowitz acolyte I know wants to see Sony BMG bring out an
- 21:37absolutely complete or as complete as possible edition of all of the concerts that Horowitz
- 21:45played at Carnegie Hall that he had arranged for the Carnegie Hall Recording Corporation
- 21:52to record for him privately.
- 21:55These private recordings live at Yale University and some of this material has been released
- 22:01to the public on Sony BMG as well as RCA Victor in previous years.
- 22:10And also a couple of concerts have leaked out so to speak and have floated around the
- 22:17underground.
- 22:18Yet, I know that serious piano mavens all over the world would give anything to see the entire
- 22:25Horowitz Yale collection made available at long last to the public in a box set.
- 22:31I think this is top priority of all the Horowitz projects that may be cooking.
- 22:38I also should mention, this is just a little sidebar, that there is a three disc set that
- 22:45I actually had annotated back in 2021 but it is still in contractual limbo so far as
- 22:53I know.
- 22:54And it involves Vladimir Horowitz and his 1968 television special.
- 23:00It includes all the performances, all the takes, all of the inserts, all of the false
- 23:06starts, all the rehearsal takes, all the talking and all the noodling around on the piano in
- 23:13between takes, I mean the whole kit and caboodle.
- 23:17And I hope that will come out pretty soon because it's absolutely fascinating.
- 23:23Also there still are miscellaneous Horowitz studio recordings that he did not originally
- 23:29approve for release.
- 23:31Yet I wonder if the masters exist because there are some odds and ends from the early
- 23:361950s that have escaped from the vault and have floated around the so-called underground.
- 23:44I know that there are outtakes from the 1960s and 70s and I'm very curious to see what's
- 23:51there and what might be able to be issued.
- 23:55Also I wonder if the master tape exists that was edited down from various concerts recorded
- 24:05during Horowitz's disastrous 1983 tour.
- 24:11These were concerts where he was having memory lapses and playing tons of wrong notes and
- 24:17his playing was quite incoherent a lot of the time.
- 24:22A copy of this edited master tape was brought to Horowitz for his approval but he wouldn't
- 24:29even bother to listen so nothing ever happened.
- 24:32I guess that's understandable but does that edited tape exist anywhere?
- 24:38I would be very curious about it.
- 24:40But the most important thing is the 1940s and early 1950s Carnegie Hall material recorded
- 24:49privately for Horowitz, the entire Yale collection and I really hope that will come out on CD
- 24:56in our lifetime I hope.
- 24:59And let's hope that at least some of these piano box set ideas will eventually materialize
- 25:06into reality in 2025.
- 25:09In the meantime I wish you all the best for your health and well-being in the new year
- 25:162025 and that you pursue what is important to you and to live as positively and lovingly
- 25:25as you can.
- 25:26This is Jed Disler and you've been listening to the Piano Maven, your friendly podcast
- 25:33guide to piano recordings and I look forward to being with you for the beginning of season
- 25:40number two in the new year.
- 25:42Oh and we do have one more episode in season one.
- 25:46It's going to be the best releases of 2024.
- 25:50Do you want to know what those are?
- 25:52Well you have to listen to our next episode.
- 25:57Be well.
- 25:58Enjoy the show.