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Elon Musk discuss the Cybertruck! · Elon Musk Thinking

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Really really interested in this, and I just have one quick question for you.
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This has been the hell of a week based on what I've seen on
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X But what was the high point as far as you're concerned with the with
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with with what happened this week and whatnot, apart from the fact that you
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know you released it, which which thing really Yeah, I mean, this
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is our biggest product release in quite a while, and I mean the sol
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cyber truck is you know, probably the most revolutionary product. So I've for
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to actually reach production and to deliver liver the first our production articles to people,
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you know, which means has passed all of the regulatory tests and and
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it is reliable and something, you know, something that can be out there
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on the roads. Was was extremely difficult. I've often said that, you
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know, prod prototypes are easy, production as hard. With a small team,
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you can make a prototype of almost anything within maybe six months with one
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hundred people, but to actually create a production system you need ten sort of
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ten thousand people and two years or three years. But actually two or three
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years most people can't even do that. So I may not know this,
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but I take Tesla as working at the speed of thought, not not like
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what everybody else does, you know, committees and whatnot. You guys seem
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to be able to spot something that should be done, and maybe other people
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have spotted it as well, but you actually get it done. And that's
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where like self driving. I'm really I've driven it. I'm very impressed with
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that. I did give one suggestion now, taking this the first time into
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a great, big, giant parking garage, that winding dudead. I've asked
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the guys whether or not there's this is something you can do about putting a
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little like a bar on the bottom so I can see where the hill my
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wheels are. And they said, software done, and I think they may
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have implemented it already. And that's what I mean by speed of thought.
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one of the one of the machines that most companies aspire to. But you
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we're great or very grateful to our partners at Trump that have given us this
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equipment to use. Here. Okay, so Dan, I can see that
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we're moving pieces over here, and we're standing in front of some sort of
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a three access welding system or whatever. It's the cutting system. It's a
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very interesting. You have a pre production facility that I'm sure pretty much everybody
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would die to have. I'm surprised that you're not. You may be the
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biggest in the world right now, but I'm surprised you're not twice as big
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because everything you're doing here is things that OEMs and tier ones should be doing,
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and I've seen I've seen progress slow right down with other companies with bigger
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OEMs of any type, whether it's aerospace or appliances, whatever, they always
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slow down because they try and do it internally. This is the best thing
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as far as I'm concerned, and looking at what you've got going on here,
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a bridge to start of production forty eight bolts. I mean, spend a
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hard time that it's been at twelve voltes. Yeah, sixty years. So
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I've got a question for you. How difficult was it to move from twelve
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to forty eight? Because I know when the s came out, I wasn't
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or the plaid came out, I wasn't happy. I thought you were going
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to do it on that. I was looking for that big giant weight reduction
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and cutting all the wire and whatnot. But this one you've got it in.
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So how how difficult was it to get that to happen? Well,
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it's very difficult to change the bus voltage from twelve to forty eight because all
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of the peripheral items, everything that connects to it has to interface with forty
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eight vaults or you've got to step down to twelve volts. Yeah, so
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you know there are there are hundreds of things that interface to the low voltage
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bus, and that's everything from you know, the electronics in the car,
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the window, yeah, the window motor, the airbags, you know,
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the think the seat adjustment mode. Everything is set, the headlamps, everything's
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set to twelve vaults. So the entire supply chain, the entire design infrastructure
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is set for twelve volts. This is why it's been stuck at this absurdly
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low number for a long time. And I think, I mean it's people
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that know a little bit about electrical electrical engineering. You don't even know a
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lot, but just a little bit. We'll understand that you you actually want
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to hire voltage in order to reduce the resistance losses. So the heating in
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any wire is the current is ice squared r, you know, so it's
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the square of the current. So if you're trying to get a particular power
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rating through then as you are as you as you increase the voltage, you
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can decrease the currents that voltage times average use, your powers will whold power
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consonant. But the heating is proportionate to the square of the current. So
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you want to raise the voltage in order to lower the current, thus lower
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the heating in the wire, and the net effect being that you can have
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much thinner wires. Then as you raise the voltage, you can you can
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drop the thickness of the wire, so you can have much you can use
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much less. In a nutshell, you can use much less copper, and
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the wire harness weighs much less as you raised the voltage, but you did
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even more because it went to the new bus system. And you know,
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in the eighties when I was still working for Forward, I did everything I
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could to try and get us to go to the It was a bus system
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that did that failed and we couldn't get that to happen. And once it
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failed, that's it. We can never go back again. It's failed.
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It'll never work, it'll never work. But you guys made it work.
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And I heard a couple of different numbers, but somewhere between in in a
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percentage of waiting was sometimes something around seventy percent of the communication wire disappeared forty
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eight bold who cares it's gone? And this is another thing that you know.
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Multiplexing was that's the name that it used to be called. But anyways,
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multiplexing was really good. But it was it was too slow, and
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you've got it to work, and I just maybe you could explain who came
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up with it, When did you decide that you were going to go in
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that direction? Was it part of the forty eight bolt discussion? Or how
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did that work? Well, there's there's actually a couple of things happening.
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So besides forty eight volts, it's also moving to Ethernet over canvas. So
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Ethernet just allows for a much higher data rate than the sort of the canvas,
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which is a sort of typical data bus on a car. The you
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know, one of the effects of of being able to of having a very
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high bandwidth bus is that you don't have to have as many points of point
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wires because you're not constrained by the data rate. So if your data rate
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per wire is low, as it is typically with canvas, you have to
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have many points point wires, whereas if you have a very high data rate
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like Ethernet, then you can simply attached to the bus and not worry about
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any kind of latency or or packet loss or you know, date data loss
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essentially. So it's so you need far fewer point point wires. So it's
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both going to four times higher voltage, thus having thinner wires and needing fewer
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wires because we have a much higher data rate bus. Now, I think,
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frankly, these things are pretty obvious. They're like, it's simply bringing
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cars to the you know, you're the twenty fourth century, because we've had
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ethanet for a long time. Yeah, there's nothing that's really prevented the car
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industry from moving to a higher bus voltage and a much a higher data rate
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system than can bus, which is a very old protocol. And so I
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feel like, actually, what we're doing is we're kind of doing making the
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obvious moves. They seemed very obvious to me, like as as opposed to
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like some you know eureka. It's it's not like is it actually a breakthrough.
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Well, we're just trying to bring car electronics to you know, the
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year twenty twenty three, right, similar to what you'd have for you know,
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a laptop or a you know, any kind of computer. Well,
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without sounding like I'm sucking up, because hey, almost never do. I
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just think it's because the leadership. I work with many different car companies,
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some of them some of them small, but to make a decision like that
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usually involves number one a bunch of nbas and number two lawyers, and as
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soon as that comes into play, boom. I don't care what what engineer,
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If you haven't got a leader, that's going to be no, I
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don't care, just do it. And and that kind of an obvious idea
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to an engineer is totally oblivious to people who count beans and basically try and
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make you do nothing, nothing new. I mean, I mean, if
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somebody is gonna I believe it's important to be good at the have some good
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understanding of the field that you are leading. So if you're leading to stay
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technology company, you want to be I think good at engineering, or reasonably
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good at engineering. If you're you know, leading a company which is sort
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of more marketing based than you, I think being a skilled at marketing is
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is it is fine, but you know, like you don't want the you
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don't want your product to be something that you don't understand essentially, so,
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uh, there's a lot of technology in the car, so I think it's
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important to have an understanding of technology of engineering in order to make sensible decisions.
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I mean, even for something I think as tripical as I squared to
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our heating. If you ask, I think there won't be that many technology
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company CEOs who would know what that means. I would say zero. I
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think like Jensen want a well, a few others, you know, maybe,
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but at the end of the day, very very few would know.
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And and if they did know, it wouldn't make any difference anyway, because
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again they're going to have to bump in to the same roadblocks over and over
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again, and then there it's the other roadblock, the roadblock, and you've
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got basically strewed by wire. Wire is awesome if you actually I don't really
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spend much time on it in the cyber Truck presentation because it was hard to
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explain why it's going to be great, But you have to if you drive
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the car, it's immediately obvious that's exactly. So the steer by wire means
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that the the the steering yoke is not mechanically connected to the wheels. So
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you're now, this is the way that all modern jet airliners so made.
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Uh yeah, you know, it's the the sort of steering yoak or stick
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on on a modern airliner is simply a command to the computer. So for
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the cyber truck, the steering oak is a command to the computer. So
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that means is we can adjust the gain, which so uh, I'll try
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to say this in ways that say an engineering orders would understand, but also
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that maybe a general audience would also understand. By variable gain, it's kind
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of like turning out the if you're going to amplify or something, do you
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turn the amplifier to a low setting or a high setting, And so you
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can increase the amplification of the motion of your steering yoke according to what speed
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you're driving, so that if you're in a parking lot or like if you're
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low speed driving, then a small movement of the steering yoke results in a
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big movement in the wheels, so that you can you can do you know,
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a U turn with with minimal movement of the steer of the steering yoke.
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But then if you're on a highway and you're moving very fast, you
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want the wheels to only move a small amount when you move the yolk.
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So it's it's it basically moves the wheels the right amount based on the speed
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that you're going and what your intentions are. Well, the other good thing
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too is this has real, real steering, so when I first got into
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it, it's very I don't know, nerve racking or imposing anyway, first
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time you get in this thing. It's a very expensive truck. I got
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like, I got maybe a couple of minutes of like rich Otto made all
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this stuff happen. Anyway, he said, well, this, this,
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this, this, and it's hey, gotta go because the you know,
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he had a lot of stuff to prepare. So we got out and the
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very first thing I noticed, very first thing I noticed was I got to
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get out of this parking spot and with real, real steering along with front
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wheel steering as well. It's like it turned on a dime. This is
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not like trying to turn the Queen Mary around. This is a This is
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a really really in a parking lot. This is going to kick everyone's tail.
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I mean it turns like a small car even though it's a car.
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Yeah, so that was another thing that has been talked about for years but
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never implemented. This car has got so many of This truck has got so
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many applications that engineers have been talking about since I don't know, Moses was
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a pupp This is this is kind of like everything that everything that I was
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kind of hoping to see. So I'm I'm very very excited. I also,
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you know, I haven't been the biggest fan of the Model three and
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the Model wise backseat. This one year is a monster. I mean,
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this is this is really I'm really really delighted with that. When I got
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in there, I brought it around, showed it everybody. They absolutely loved
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that back seat. Yeah, so it's very roomy inside. I mean you
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can five large adults can easily see. Yeah, easily. Yeah. And
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I mean, like I said, I drove it around. Oh, I
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love the big So there's there's a bunch of people at General Motors when we're
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trying to help them out, I said, why we got two win shoe
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wipers. Why don't we just put it yours doesn't have it? But I
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wanted a cam action that would catch both sites. You don't need it.
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That windshields so huge, and that blade is so gigantic. It never like
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yeah giants, Yeah yeah it is. And and it works really reasonably well
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because I don't know how you arranged that we were going to drive in the
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rain and the fog and the mud, but it worked out quite good because
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we've got tons of really good, really good footage on how that thing works
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and whatnot. So I I I love a lot of it. Your guys
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told me all about the uh, the illumina or sorry, the stainless steel
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and it's a three to oo x x whatever but series custom. Yeah.
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But the big thing for me was when I found out I was pretty sure
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it be austinitic because you can't have rust. But I didn't know that you
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take the austinite, work hard in it and now it's sorry Martin site and
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uh. And hence the reason I couldn't understand the bullets because I've shot through
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I do some hunting and I've shot through stainless steel in the past. Yeah,
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but with martin'side just now chance. So that was that was a big
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surprise. I've got a question for you, though, what was the biggest
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hold hold up? I mean everybody's been, you know, holding their breath
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for at least four years, so what really was the biggest the biggest challenge?
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Well, I think people sometimes forget, you know, it's not like
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we're going to deliver the car, and twenty nineteen we announced car twenty nineteen.
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I think we sort of expected paths that we're in production in twenty a
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couple of years later and twenty one or something like that. But you know
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that there was a worldwide pandemic. Then there was a global chip shortage,
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and there were shortages of so many parts. It would be irrelevant for us
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to bring to market a car for what that we simply do not have parts.
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To me, Yeah, so that's a pretty good reason. Yeah,
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I would add parts, we would add complexity, yeah, but we would
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not show any incremental units. And that's that's uh, it would actually make
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that make company worse. Yeah, So at the end of the day,
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I wasn't going to try and answer that question. You know, a lot
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of people have been asking, well, first off, we were under an
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nd A kind of thing, and then and then people were asking me the
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same question over and over again, and I'm thinking, you know what,
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this would be a good time for you to shut up, Sandy, and
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let's find out for sure. And that's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah,
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it just wasn't there. We couldn't make them. So now for a
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few years there we we we actually couldn't even make enough of the Model Y
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Model three. We were actually production constrained because of multiple potch storges, so
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that the global pandemic shut down massive sections of the global supply chain. Yeah,
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well it was true for everyone. Nobody. Nobody was immune to that
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stuff. So so it was just if we if we can't even make enough
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of the cars that we have designed, what's the point of bringing a new
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one to market? Right? So I've got another question, Then, what
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are you looking at? I've been asked Bloomberg and the I don't know,
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a bunch of bunch of these different news magazines have been asking me, what's
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the you know, volume going to be for this thing, say in twelve
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months? What are you looking at? Well, we have your cautious about
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four looking statements. As a public, publicly traded company, this is not
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and it's also very difficult to forecast the production ramp in the beginning because the
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production rapp is like this very difficult s curve, which means the production is
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very slow in the beginning. You're constrained by whatever the least lucky, least
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competent thing out of ten thousand items is. So the weak link. Yeah,
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there's at least ten thousand unique parts and processes required to scale production and
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whatever the like I said, the least lucky, dumbest thing in the whole
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system. And it could be something complicated or something trivial that actually sets your
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output rate. So it's difficult. It's very difficult to predict the slope of
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that s code. That's why you know it's and even just a few months
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difference one way or the other can really change the unit volume. But the
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cyber truck is not something that will be material to the to Tesla's financials next
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year, meaning it will not you know, of the vehicles we make,
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it will be still such a small percentage that it will not be material in
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twenty twenty four. It will probably be material in twenty twenty five. Yeah.
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Well, I when we went down, they were dry cycling the machines
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and went on, and you know, I'm a pretty good guesser, and
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it looked like this thing could be produced at sixty well when every sixty second,
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sixty jobs an hour, whatever you want. It seemed to be somewhere
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in there and your other ones. When I went through year before the model,
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why I was doing about forty three seconds and I got exactly the same
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number when I went through. When I went through, what do you call
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it Berlin. So I think at sixty sixty jobs per hours, kind of
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like where everybody else is, nobody's at forty three nobody, so that you're
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unique. That that's that's great for the for the three and the and the
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why. I'm just hoping this thing will ramp up quickly. I know that
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I talked to Oh, we missed you at the party last night. I'm
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sure you had other things on your mind, but there was a there was
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about two thousand people there and or Becks had this party anyhow, it was
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really kind of cool. But if you could have been there or maybe just
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been a fly on the wall to hear what everyone had to say, I
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mean, there was plenty of cheering and plenty of plenty of people anxiously awaiting
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their their delivery on this. So I think that I think that this is,
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without a question of a doubt, the most brilliant product that I worked
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on. We worked on the Mini, but not the original one. So
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is Agonus brought that out. That was a big deal. And then they
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and Danger Danger I don't know, I have no ideas, but anyways,
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on this one here, I think that this is the most iconic vehicle that
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we've seen in at least forty years. Thirty or forty years. This is
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this is I specifically to make something that looked like the future. Wow.
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So yeah, it's like, I mean I think that the really really it's
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like if what car would blade run or drive that way? Yeah? Yeah,
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so that's that's kind of like what I was like, I mean,
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astal carrier from the future exactly. And quite frankly, I wanted to do
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something like this when I was working at we were working for uh Land Rover
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and they, you know, there was a thing called Judge Judge dread.
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Yeah, judge read reread or drive this car for sure exactly, and that's
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what we wanted to do. I wanted to buy the frames, ship them
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over to the States, and then I would put a Judge Dread body on
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it. They wouldn't go for it, Oh no, no, that'll never
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work. This, on the other hand, is just absolutely phenomenal. When
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we were driving, there was fog and muck and whatnot. The wing mears
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were continuously fogging up, but it didn't matter once I found out that I
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could, so I just turned a turn signal and I could see what was
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going on. If I needed to see something else. Flip on the turn
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signal, the camera comes up as clear as day, perfect, perfect,
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And then I find out that you also can wash the wash the glass like
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the lenses off. Brilliant. I mean, I just don't understand why it
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is that no one else has kind of like jumped into this everybody else at
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all? Is the regulation? Well that means that we we just got to
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stop right there, and that's that's the stupid part. But I got a
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chance to see all the stuff. I mean, I'm really kind of impressed.
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From an engineering standpoint, this is like, this is like nothing,
28:37
Nobody's got anything quite like this. So I'm like, I say, I
28:41
know you're pressed for time, but I have just one other thing I'd like
28:45
to talk about a little bit. So we have this iconic vehicle and it'll
28:51
be it'll be great. I'm hoping, hoping I can get a couple of
28:55
them, so I know that this is going to be a great vehicle.
28:57
But there's the other guys that are also dying to get a Tesla, the
29:03
twenty five thousand dollars Tesla, and so I'm wondering, where where is that
29:08
exactly where where are you with that. Yeah, Unfortunately, because you're a
29:11
publicly traded company, I kind of comment on things that would have a material
29:15
impact on our financials. Okay, well there you go. Yeah, But
29:19
anyways, I'm hoping that that's not too far down the line. I really
29:23
really would like to see something where we can where like this one here.
29:30
I'm told that the one that I'm looking for, the beast, the tri
29:34
motor and everything. Yeah, and i'd like to get two of those in
29:40
that vehicle is like one hundred plus grant. I think that I think that
29:45
that's the right price for this, but it's not the right price for the
29:49
for the kid that wants to take one to college or whatnot. So that's
29:55
why I'm kind of anxious to find out what it is that can be done
30:00
and for those others that want to get into electrification but can't. So if
30:04
we can't do that, then let me shift gears. And what do you
30:07
think about that? You can say a little bit. I just can't tell
30:11
you, you know, unit volume in dates, because that has a mask
30:15
that then that is a that is projecting the financials. Yeah, so we
30:21
obviously are we are working on a low cost electric vehicle that were made a
30:25
very high volume. We're quite far advanced in that work. The you know,
30:32
I review the production line plans for that every week, and I think
30:37
the the the revolution in manufacturing that will be represented by that car will blow
30:45
people's minds. It is not like any car production line that anyone's ever seen.
30:52
It's just going to have the basically unbossed system or would this be too
31:00
much of a question as the thing, the thing that's most interesting about this
31:07
is a production system. It's a level of production technology that is far in
31:15
advance of any automotive plant on Earth. I can early wait now, it's
31:22
gonna be cool. It's going to be very yeah, I think, you
31:26
know, And I should point out the uh that that we will be making
31:30
that the first production line will be here in the Giga factory in Texas,
31:34
in this facility, that it's going to be in Mexico or something that will
31:38
be the second place. Mhm oh, that's way cool. It would takes
31:44
you long to complete the factory in Mexico. Well, this place here seems
31:48
to be growing every time I come here. It seems to get bigger.
31:52
We're adding a significant extension on the south and adding more buildings on on.
32:00
We have two thousand acres, so this is really just a small part of
32:01
the property. Yeah. Well, also, I kept hearing phase one.
32:06
This is phase one. So this is phase one. I can't imagine what
32:10
all the other phases must be. So yeah, this building is uh is
32:15
three times the size of the Pentagon. Yeah, well the Pentagon I got
32:19
lost in as well. Yeah, it's easy to do that, but this,
32:22
this building is so unique in that everybody has ever since alber Khan showed
32:28
us, hey, let's have a flat building and gobble up a whole bunch
32:30
of property and then we don't have to go up and down we building that
32:36
we do have flows this building, and yeah, I know, this has
32:37
got plenty of floors, and and what's nice about it is I start with
32:42
the light stuff and I move it down to the heavy stuff, and then
32:45
I've drive it out the door. This what's that thing right over there?
32:49
The seat system, that's a that's a great example of I mean, people
32:53
have talked about doing that. Nobody had the guts to do that. And
32:59
and by the way, I don't know, I don't know if you know
33:01
it, but my my office chair is a model model wise seat that I
33:09
put little rollers on. Well, I have a bad I have a real
33:14
problem with my back. And and that's the only thing. I mean,
33:17
I don't I don't need to have a chiropractor. I mean I had gone
33:21
to the chiropractor in over a year, a year and a half, I
33:23
guess now, because that's thet I have no idea. You know, we've
33:28
taken them apart and one not. But I'm not a seat engineer. That
33:30
just seems to be perfect for everybody that I know of that sits in the
33:36
front seats absolutely loves them. So but having those and popping them in and
33:40
I mean all the all the glorious stuff you did with the with how manufacturing
33:46
should be done, it drives me wild why other people haven't done anything.
33:52
But again I I I don't know. I hate to start drooling all over
34:00
you, but I think it's just great leadership. I really, I really
34:04
appreciate that. Yeah, I mean I pushed things very hard on engineering front.
34:12
So we would have been more adventurous actually with you know, with a
34:16
Model three or a Model Y, but we couldn't take a chance on a
34:22
on being too radical because if those were bet the company cars, so you
34:30
know, with with the cyber truck, it's no longer a bet the company
34:32
situation. So we have the freedom to be adventurous here. H So let
34:38
me ask an adventurous question. Okay, So I made a lot of noise
34:45
about what I think the future is going to look like. And one of
34:49
the things that I've said is that probably the biggest car company on the planet
34:52
will be by A d And then I'm putting Tessela in on second simply because
34:58
dyd's got such a head start. I've heard plenty of people, you know,
35:05
criticizing that. But who do you think is going to be the winners
35:07
and losers in the car industry? Well, I think it's too early to
35:19
say for sure, but I mean the future is definitely electric. So yeah,
35:22
companies that are not making a significant investment in electric electric vehicles are basically
35:30
consigning themselves to the fate of the horse and buggy market. You know in
35:32
the nineteen twenties, Yeah, you know, there are companies that were double
35:36
down on the on horse carriages and actually you know so so you know you
35:46
don't want to be the buggy what manufacturer in the age of water? Yes,
35:50
yeah, exactly right, so but there for me, there's two giants,
35:58
three giants that I think are going to come down real hard and and
36:02
one in particular. But I just decided I don't want to go down that
36:07
path. So what I want to do is basically basically just tell you that
36:13
this has really been phenomenal. I I'm really hoping that somehow I can make
36:19
something happen for us to well for me, first off, to drive something
36:23
around and then secondly something that we can we can tear down and enlighten the
36:29
rest of the planet on and by the way, I forgot, I even
36:31
have a gift for you. So there you go, so the all you
36:36
can open it up. It's got a little flap in the front. Here
36:39
you go and there you are. So so anyways, I gave him owner,
36:47
Yes if so, and you can glue it to the fridge too,
36:52
So there you are fridge magnet. Yeah, yeah, well you're welcome.
36:57
I it's not much, but I I really think that it's the least I
37:02
can do for all the stuff that you've done for Monroe. I mean,
37:07
you put us on the map I had. You know, it's been a
37:12
rough first half of this year, this part of the year seems to be
37:15
going a whole lot better, and I, like, I say, I
37:20
want to be cognizant of your time and consider it. So I'd like to
37:24
thank you. By the way, I've got one other thing. Both of
37:28
us are we're aliens, okay, both of us. You came from Canada
37:32
and before that South Africa. I came from Canada, and I found that
37:37
that Americans have kind of lost their way a little bit thinking about history.
37:44
And there's this Guyed Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Jefferson used to say. He
37:52
used to say, in matters of fashion, go with the flow. In
37:54
matters of principle, stand like a rock. I'm going to end this with
38:00
shaking your hand, thanking you, thanking you for standing like a rock when
38:06
you're sitting on a stage and someone is trying to humiliate you. I I
38:10
told everybody I won't go into this and I'm not going to get all,
38:15
you know, emotional and everything. But to me, I've watched that one
38:19
clip that people have been putting out to me and putting up against forgotten their
38:27
name, Disney or Land or whatever. At the end of the day,
38:30
I will never take my grandchildren ever to that place, ever, And I
38:35
think you have to wonder what would Walt Disney think of the company that is
38:38
his namesake. Today, I'm telling you what I think, Walt Disney turning
38:42
in is gveray faster than the growbit. I Well, I'm telling you what
38:47
I believe that. I believe that it won't. It won't take too much
38:52
longer before somebody goes, hey, you know what, this is bullshit.
38:55
We we aren't we we we shouldn't be having to shovel down our throat any
39:00
longer, and then there'll be a big change. But it isn't going to
39:04
happen. It isn't going to happen next week, that's for sure, and
39:07
that's unfortunate. But I love the first step for me. Right now,
39:13
I think that people have gone completely stupid. I think that that I'm not
39:19
supposed to talk about this either, but I think that people have fallen into
39:22
that same trap as what Nazi Germany had, where mass hysteria took over and
39:30
created a real giant mess and it took a World war to quell that.
39:37
Those incredibly bad thinking and stuff like that. So I'm hoping that it won't
39:44
take a third World War to make something like that change the way we're thinking
39:49
and whatnot. But I do believe that somebody, somebody has to start looking
39:53
at what's going on in the education system because listening to people talk just I
40:01
have to get up and walk away. It's very difficult for me to hire
40:05
people because if I hear that kind of stuff. You know, we both
40:09
chose this country. It wasn't that we got born here. We came here
40:14
because this was this was the land of opportunity and and for measly, a
40:20
country where you know you're you're you make progress based on on your skill and
40:24
your ability to work and how Yeah, if you're able to do you know,
40:30
very useful things, then you get ahead. And uh, I feel
40:37
like we're starting to lose that starting. I'd say that we're getting real close
40:42
to a watershed. And when that happens, it's very very difficult to make
40:49
to make the water go uphill. So I'm I'm very, very very nervous.
40:52
I I don't know why or how this has happened. That's not my
40:58
area of expertise, but I do know what I see. I want to
41:00
try to figure that out. Like I think some of these things started probably
41:05
earlier than people realize. I'm thinking. I think when they started with the
41:13
politically correct philosophy and whatnot, I think that that tipping that was starting,
41:20
that that's kind of like where it started. And then and now it's gotten
41:22
so ridiculous that it even funny. And I don't know how that's like.
41:29
It's like, it's really just another way of saying, like you have to
41:30
lie to fit in exactly, and then how and then more and more you
41:34
have to lie to fit in more and more light to fit in. And
41:37
eventually that that that sort of housive cards of lives will collapse. It always
41:44
does and it always has. But when it collapses, who gets crushed?
41:50
And and is there any recovery from something like that? How? How?
41:54
Uh how how damn dumb can people be? Well, we've watched it happened
42:00
in the past. People who read history have watched the Roman Empire collapse,
42:06
the Greeks, the Egyptians. I mean, show show me a nation,
42:10
show me a civilization, I should say, and I'll show you, hey,
42:14
that collapsed. And why did it collapse? Well because the people went
42:16
stupid or they spent more time watching watching what's going at this circus as opposed
42:22
to watching what was happening in their backyard. I mean, yes, very
42:27
few empires collapsed simply due to external forces. They first defeated themselves from within
42:35
exactly. Yeah. The only way to lose in the United States would be
42:38
if we if we tear it down from the inside. And it seems to
42:43
me anyway that there's a lot of that stuff going on right now. So
42:46
yes, I think, I think, I suspect things will come to a
42:52
head and the not too distant future. I hope you're well. I hope
42:55
you're right and it moves in the right direction, but that there's going to
42:59
be something else. Yeah, now that's that's the truth too. Yeah.
43:02
So anyway, I know your son needs to get to bed. Yeah,
43:07
and I pee quite frank. We were at that last night and I'm fading
43:15
fast. I had about six cups of coffee. It was a lot of
43:20
fun. But anyways, thank you so much, thank you. I really
43:22
appreciate it. You're welcome. Yeah, and thanks very much everybody for watching,
43:28
and Elon for for giving up his time, and and really I don't
43:31
know what time it is, but if you've got to go back to work
43:35
for another two hours, i'd say you