Latest / Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney / Turning a farm into a wedding venue with Stefania Bennett
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- 0:00Stef: When you're running your own business, it is so hard
- 0:02to make the time to learn.
- 0:04And I find the best way to make it happen is to have something in
- 0:09the diary that you've paid for, so you don't want to not turn up.
- 0:15I think for me, that's the best way to do it.
- 0:17And I think this is going to be, it's a whole day out of your schedule, but at the
- 0:20same time, you're going to get so much out of it, I think, with the four different
- 0:24interactive talks from you, Becca.
- 0:25So I'm really looking forward to it.
- 0:29Becca: I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert,
- 0:32speaker and blogger, and you're listening to the Wedding Pros
- 0:34Who Are Ready to Grow podcast.
- 0:37I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life
- 0:40examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.
- 0:44If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion
- 0:48and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business, doing what you
- 0:51love, then you're in the right place.
- 0:53Let's get going with today's episode.
- 0:57Today I'm chatting with Stef Bennett, owner of Bennett's Willow Barn in
- 1:00Worcestershire, a wedding and events venue and cafe based on a family farm.
- 1:04Having got married on the farm herself back in 2016, they decided to open
- 1:08it up to others who are looking for a laid back, festival style wedding
- 1:11and the rest, as they say, is history.
- 1:14Stef is fabulous and I'm looking forward to seeing her venue for
- 1:17myself when I visit in October as I run a training day at Bennett's
- 1:21Willow Barn, but more on that later.
- 1:23Stef, welcome to the podcast.
- 1:26Hello, Becca.
- 1:26Thanks very much for having me.
- 1:27Thank you for agreeing to do this.
- 1:30Now I want to go right back as we start this podcast through
- 1:34your history to find out what you did before you worked on a farm.
- 1:39So let's start there.
- 1:40Tell me where it all began career wise for you.
- 1:43Stef: Right.
- 1:43So I started out as a solicitor.
- 1:46I was a property litigation specialist.
- 1:48I worked in Worcester and then Birmingham.
- 1:50And my now husband is a farmer.
- 1:53He's a dairy farmer.
- 1:54He's fifth generation on his family farm.
- 1:57It's been in the family for over a hundred years now.
- 2:01And it was always understood that if we were going to stay together, I'd end up
- 2:05moving onto his family farm, which I did.
- 2:09and things happened between then and now that mean I'm now running a wedding
- 2:15venue, which is a little bit mad.
- 2:17Becca: Yes, that is a little bit mad, quite a change to go from the
- 2:20job you had into working in farming.
- 2:23So at what point did you kind of stop the career and go into working
- 2:29all of the time on the farm?
- 2:31Stef: I had my First two children quite close together, I, and I had full
- 2:36maternity leave with both of them, I was very much a solicitor and I thought
- 2:40that I would keep doing that, I perhaps would be part time when I went back to
- 2:44work, probably after the second one, and I did, I went back part time, but
- 2:49it had become very apparent that it wasn't really going to work alongside.
- 2:54a dairy farmer.
- 2:56Me traveling into Birmingham even just a couple of times a week was going to
- 2:59be very difficult for our family life.
- 3:02I realized I would probably not see my children a huge amount
- 3:05and not have that flexibility.
- 3:07But also something else that was the, the catalyst for me quitting working in
- 3:12law and getting stuck in on the farm was that over COVID in March 2020 is when
- 3:18we started to set up our milk round.
- 3:19So I was still on maternity leave then.
- 3:22And that's when we.
- 3:24use the demand for home deliveries in COVID to take the plunge
- 3:28and set up what is now our milk round business on the farm.
- 3:33And I think that time working for myself, although it was very difficult
- 3:39with two little ones not allowed in nursery doing all this work.
- 3:41I was working very late into the evening very often.
- 3:43And work with children hanging off my legs while I sat at, at the desk.
- 3:47It was very difficult, but it, it established this different way of
- 3:52working where I had the flexibility to, to do what I needed to do when
- 3:57I could do it around the children.
- 3:58And I think when I started back at work as a solicitor I think it was the
- 4:03September time I went back to work.
- 4:04I lasted two weeks before I said, this isn't gonna work, . And then
- 4:09I, so I, I stopped working in the law and I went full on into.
- 4:13running the farm's diversifications.
- 4:15So that's what I do now.
- 4:17Becca: I always say once an entrepreneur, you become completely unemployable,
- 4:20because when you get a taste of that life of working for yourself and doing
- 4:24your own thing, going back to work for someone else feels like a huge struggle.
- 4:30Now, life on a farm in general is probably something that most
- 4:33of us don't know anything about.
- 4:35Maybe we've watched a bit of Clarkson's Farm, but I'm not sure
- 4:38how close to reality that really is.
- 4:40So just tell us, what is it day to day life for you and
- 4:44your family living on a farm?
- 4:46Stef: I would say busy.
- 4:49We are a very busy family.
- 4:51A normal day for us starts off with my husband out on the farm before the rest
- 4:56of us have got up, so I'm primarily in charge of getting all our kids out the
- 5:00door and off to school and nursery.
- 5:03They're all quite little, so it's quite an undertaking.
- 5:05He does pop in, my husband does pop in when he can and help, but you know, he's
- 5:10out, the cows need feeding, milking, all those tasks that need doing to look
- 5:15after our few hundred cows every day.
- 5:18I mean, he's got a team that help him, obviously, it's not just him,
- 5:20but he's very full on on the farm.
- 5:23And it just, it takes over really, you know, the farm when you've got
- 5:26livestock, the animals are so important.
- 5:30You know, the number of times we're late for events, because.
- 5:34A cow's poorly or, you know, a calf's been born and it's got stuck so he's got
- 5:38to go help it or a water trough's broken.
- 5:41You know, it's things like that where it's not a job that you switch on and off.
- 5:46It's, it very, it's very much a living.
- 5:50You know, it's a livelihood and, and it is a way of life where we don't
- 5:54have days off as such, you know, we're always on call and It is very full
- 6:01on, but at the same time, he wouldn't want to be doing anything else.
- 6:05He is very much a farmer through and through.
- 6:07It's in his blood, and he wouldn't dream of doing anything else at all.
- 6:10He's happy as Larry out on his tractor or out with his cows.
- 6:14And it's been difficult for me, I think, accepting that, because I'm
- 6:18not from a farming family at all.
- 6:22And so when you come into that way of living, It is quite hard, I think, to
- 6:26adjust, but I'm pretty much there now.
- 6:29And the, the benefits of seeing our children grow up
- 6:32on the farm are just amazing.
- 6:33You know, I think that's why we keep doing what we do.
- 6:35We, we are very lucky to be surrounded by an environment where our children can get
- 6:40outdoors and enjoy the outdoors properly.
- 6:43So I think that's why we keep doing it really.
- 6:45Becca: Yeah, I'm sure it's an incredible place to grow up.
- 6:48So many animals, so much going on, so many people.
- 6:51Now, as I mentioned in the intro, now you open your farm up and you have
- 6:56weddings and events happening on the farm.
- 6:58So just take us through how that happened.
- 7:00So you had your own wedding.
- 7:02at the farm.
- 7:03And how did that end up going from having your own wedding to, okay, let's let
- 7:07other people have their weddings here too.
- 7:09Stef: Okay.
- 7:09So in 2014, we started the first diversification business on the farm.
- 7:15It's very difficult these days to make a living just through farming.
- 7:19Farming, you need to diversify.
- 7:20And you mentioned Jeremy Clarkson and Clarkson's farm.
- 7:23Then, you know, I think he, he explains that, that you
- 7:26need to be doing other things.
- 7:28You can't, just farm.
- 7:30And the first enterprise that we started as a diversification
- 7:33was our glamping site.
- 7:33So we run Worcester glamping on the farm where we started off with
- 7:36five yurts that my husband built.
- 7:39And we opened it up to, to people coming staycations on the farm and We then, we
- 7:46got engaged in 2015, so the yurts had had a full season, when we got engaged,
- 7:51we were just about to start the second season, and having built for these yurts,
- 7:55my husband said, well, how about I build us a big yurt for our wedding, because we
- 7:58wanted to get married on the farm, which I think most farmers probably want to do,
- 8:02but we realised a marquee wedding wasn't perhaps within our budget, and he went off
- 8:08to design a yurt, a giant yurt in a couple of days time, he had the plans, he's
- 8:12a, he's a Civil engineer by profession.
- 8:14So he can do, you know, all the calcs and things.
- 8:17He's very, very clever like that.
- 8:20And he started to build us a giant yurt, which we put on a list in
- 8:24a little area of the farm, just next to where the yurts are.
- 8:28So it worked perfectly for people to stay in the yurts the night
- 8:32before and the night of the wedding.
- 8:34It's a lovely little wooded area next to a big pond, which My long term
- 8:39plan is to develop the pond area into a beautiful woodland ceremony area.
- 8:43I think that would be lush down there.
- 8:45And so we had our wedding day there.
- 8:47That summer we had arranged with a couple of other people locally had
- 8:51heard what we were doing and they booked to use the yurt after us.
- 8:55And they paid us, I think about 500 pounds each, literally on the
- 8:58promise of this yurt would be ready.
- 9:01I think, well, it's got to be ready for their wedding.
- 9:03So Presumably it will be ready for our wedding too.
- 9:06And it just worked so well.
- 9:08We had the most amazing day.
- 9:10We just, the, the key things we wanted were a good party,
- 9:15good food, and a free bar.
- 9:17Those were essentially the three necessities for our wedding.
- 9:21And it was so good and our, our family and friends loved it.
- 9:23And it just worked so well as a venue.
- 9:26And we stumbled into that.
- 9:29niche of something a little different and more laid back without really realizing
- 9:34it because the next few years we did weddings alongside the glamping business
- 9:38but I did very little advertising for it and I certainly wasn't running it
- 9:43as a wedding business at all you know looking into everything you hear nowadays
- 9:48about knowing your ideal client and all those kind of marketing necessities I
- 9:53had no idea about but as it happens We'd fallen into that already, you know, we
- 9:58would know from interviewing, I'd know if someone was likely to book us or
- 10:03not, because I was like, yeah, there are people or they're not our people.
- 10:07And so I think we, we really have stumbled into a niche that
- 10:12is very much needed around us.
- 10:13I think, you know outdoor country farm wedding setting,
- 10:18but close to a city center.
- 10:20So our transport links are there, but for people who want
- 10:24that wedding, that's a lot more.
- 10:27laid back.
- 10:28And yeah, it's just, it's brilliant for that.
- 10:30And it's just grown from there year after year with, you know, improvements
- 10:34to our garden and, and then we built so that was how the yurt started.
- 10:39So we did the first few years of weddings with just the yurt, but
- 10:42over time we came up with a plan to build a more permanent structure.
- 10:47And so we designed and put in planning permission for what is
- 10:50now the barn, Bennetts Willow Barn.
- 10:52And it's been built just immediately behind the yurt.
- 10:55And so it makes a lovely little personal, personalized space, exclusive space
- 10:59for couples to have their wedding.
- 11:01So they have space in the barn, the yurt and the garden all together.
- 11:05And that space is for the couple to use.
- 11:07however they want.
- 11:09And on the side of the barn is, is our farm cafe, which
- 11:12is open every day as well.
- 11:13But the way we've designed it, it means that when you're having
- 11:16your wedding celebration with us.
- 11:17you don't know that the cafe is running.
- 11:20So it's, it's been done quite cleverly like that, but it means
- 11:23we've got a premises that we can make use of every day, pretty much
- 11:26every day of the year, really.
- 11:27Becca: And it's a much needed gap in the market as well, because
- 11:30so many venues have so many restrictions on what people can do.
- 11:33And yet I know that you Pride yourselves on letting people almost do whatever
- 11:37they want in a fashion, having a laid back approach, bringing in their own
- 11:42catering, bringing in their own food trucks, doing basically whatever they
- 11:46want, because that's what you were able to do on your farm and you want to
- 11:49give the same opportunities to others.
- 11:50Stef: Absolutely.
- 11:51That, that kind of approach where it was, we had in mind
- 11:54what we wanted for our wedding.
- 11:55We like the ideas that our couples can do that and, you know, we do do
- 12:01catering, we do offer catering, but We don't make our couples use us.
- 12:06If they've got that street food van that they've got their eye
- 12:09on, they are more than welcome to bring them in for their wedding.
- 12:11And flexibility is something that comes back to us a lot in our testimonials
- 12:16and feedback from our couples.
- 12:17They love that we're flexible and that we work with them to, you know, to
- 12:22build the day that they want, really.
- 12:24I mean, I saw something came up on Instagram last week.
- 12:28Somebody had written a post saying your wedding will not
- 12:31be the best day of your life.
- 12:34And it was a post aimed at, I get where it was coming from, at, at aiming
- 12:39people towards those high expectations.
- 12:41I think, especially these days with Instagram, people do have visions
- 12:45in the head of what they want.
- 12:46the way, exactly what they want the wedding to be like.
- 12:50And they were trying to build people down from that.
- 12:52And I, I get what they were trying to do, but at the same time I read
- 12:55it and I just thought if your wedding isn't the best day of your life, you
- 12:58haven't done your wedding the right way.
- 13:01You know, we see it a lot.
- 13:02People might come with a mom or a sister or someone.
- 13:07And you can see that they're putting some pressure on the couple to not do
- 13:13what the couple obviously want to do.
- 13:15I think it's, it is your day, and if you plan the day that you want, it will
- 13:20be the most amazing day of your life.
- 13:22But you have to stand back and think, what do I want?
- 13:25What do we want from our wedding day?
- 13:27What's important to us?
- 13:29And find your venue and find your suppliers based on
- 13:34those discussions together.
- 13:36You don't need to do a wedding a particular way.
- 13:39You know, you don't need to follow particular traditions.
- 13:43There's things you can cut out or things you can add on if you want to.
- 13:46And I think that's, that's what I love about working in the wedding industry.
- 13:49Really, when you're working in the more relaxed side of the wedding industry that
- 13:54we work in, all of our couples have that.
- 13:57a brilliant day.
- 13:58And it's because they've chosen to do it their way.
- 14:02And I love that.
- 14:03Becca: Yeah, it's so true.
- 14:04It's definitely possible to have the best day of your life on your wedding day.
- 14:07I look back on my wedding day.
- 14:09I absolutely loved it.
- 14:10It was so much fun and we did things our way.
- 14:13Exactly that.
- 14:13And there's room in the industry for all of these different kinds of supplies,
- 14:17all of these different kinds of venues, because there's all these different kinds
- 14:21of couples that are getting married.
- 14:23Now you've obviously entered the wedding market almost unexpectedly and I know that
- 14:28the wedding industry is one of the best places to work, but it's not always easy.
- 14:32So thinking back over your journey of kind of going into the wedding
- 14:36industry, being a wedding venue, what have been some of the high points and
- 14:39what have been some of the low points?
- 14:41Stef: So the high points is definitely seeing people enjoying the venue.
- 14:46I mean, there's nothing better than when I stand at the edge of our
- 14:49garden and look across it at It's full of couples and their family and
- 14:55their friends having a great time.
- 14:58I mean, our wedding garden is just stunning in the evening.
- 15:01It's full of festoon lights and it glows.
- 15:03And when, you know, you can hear the, the DJ or the band
- 15:07are getting ready in the barn.
- 15:08So the music's drifting out a bit and you just feel the excitement around you.
- 15:12And it's really wonderful to stand back.
- 15:14And every now and then I have to pinch myself and think we built this.
- 15:18which is absolutely nuts.
- 15:19I still every now and then I just have one of those moments
- 15:22where I look back and I think how different my life could have been.
- 15:27And to think that I am running this wedding venue now where people do get
- 15:31to celebrate the best day of their lives with us is just phenomenal.
- 15:34And yeah, that that's a good feeling.
- 15:36That's definitely a high.
- 15:38And the lows are, it's, It is very tough generally as a business.
- 15:44I think, I think running any business is tough, but the wedding industry, you're
- 15:48having to look ahead so much because generally people book far ahead, you know,
- 15:53what we are doing now with our marketing and our sales is going to determine.
- 16:00how our 2026 is, basically.
- 16:04So you're always having to be working, looking so far forward that that can
- 16:10become quite stressful, I think, at times.
- 16:13But I've learned so much over the last few years, since we started doing
- 16:17weddings properly a few years ago, when we opened the Willow Barn, and
- 16:20I've taken it seriously as a business.
- 16:22I mean, I've had to, because, you know, we've got a big mortgage to
- 16:25pay every month and I've got a staff team that need paying every month.
- 16:29You know, this isn't just me.
- 16:30It's, it's not a family that will suffer if we don't make this business work.
- 16:35You know, my, I've got to make it work for the sake of my amazing team.
- 16:38So it's, and the couples, of course, have booked us.
- 16:42So there's a lot of pressure.
- 16:43in that way.
- 16:44But I feel that three years on, we are finally getting there now.
- 16:48Becca: Absolutely.
- 16:49And it is a wild industry that we work in because we go through these
- 16:52phases of thinking, what are we doing?
- 16:54We need to give up.
- 16:55And then we get there on a wedding day and see people having the best day of
- 16:57their lives and realize we're part of it.
- 16:59And we suddenly think we've got the best job in the world and we are
- 17:02up and down like a rollercoaster in all different areas of the industry.
- 17:06Now I think one of the interesting things about owning a venue is how much
- 17:11the other local suppliers want to be involved and want to get to know you.
- 17:15I always think the venue is kind of the central point of the weddings
- 17:19that happen, the wedding industry, and I talk a lot to my clients about
- 17:23getting recommended by venues and building relationships with venues.
- 17:27How have you found it getting to know local suppliers in your
- 17:30area and have you built some great relationships with people?
- 17:33Stef: Yeah, we have some great working relationships with some local suppliers
- 17:36as people who we, we work with time and time again when it comes to style shoots
- 17:41or a fair, you know, that they're always first port of call for wedding fairs.
- 17:46And I really enjoy that side of it.
- 17:48I do enjoy the networking side of it and building those relationships.
- 17:53What I, what surprises me though, is that we don't have more
- 17:58people trying to get in with us.
- 18:02And I think because I, I agree that as a venue you do, you're quite
- 18:08important in terms of building those relationships because generally a
- 18:12couple will book their venue first.
- 18:14And so once you've booked your venue, you'll look to
- 18:17the venue for recommendations.
- 18:18I would say most of our couples look to us for guidance on what
- 18:23photographer to book or cakes, you know, they, they will consider our
- 18:27recommender supplier list, if not be asking for us and only book off that.
- 18:32And, So I do wonder if there's a lack of confidence among some
- 18:37suppliers in taking that step to get to know their local venues.
- 18:42And it's not about making friends with all the local venues.
- 18:45You need to find the ones that suit you.
- 18:48You know, like for us, we're, we're not a fancy formal high
- 18:52end wedding, wedding venue.
- 18:54So, If you're a florist who only, you know, your minimum spend is really high
- 19:02because you only do really high end luxury weddings, obviously there's, we're
- 19:05not going to end up working together.
- 19:07It's very unlikely that that will happen.
- 19:09So you do need to pick and choose who you work with, but it won't, you know, when
- 19:14you find Venues and suppliers who align well together, amazing work can happen.
- 19:20We've done some absolutely fantastic style shoots over the last couple of
- 19:24years where we've chosen the suppliers to work with very carefully because we
- 19:32know that we'll give them a mini brief and they will just pull it out the bag
- 19:38and make it absolutely sensational.
- 19:41And so I'm a firm believer that if you find the right people to be working with,
- 19:46then We'll, we'll always end up rubbing off each other wanting to work together.
- 19:52I mean, there's suppliers who try, you know, they want to sign up
- 19:56to our wedding fairs and things.
- 19:57That's the best way to get an in with us, you know, to, to
- 20:01sign up to our wedding fair.
- 20:02And that's a great chance to have a good chat with us and and we can get
- 20:06to know what it is about what you offer that might work well for our customers.
- 20:12So yeah, wedding fairs are a great way to, to get involved with venues, I think.
- 20:16Becca: And I do think a lot of it does come down to confidence.
- 20:19I think people probably look at you on Instagram, look at your website and think,
- 20:22Oh, I'd love to work there, but just feel too scared to reach out or not quite
- 20:26sure how to do it or how to reach out.
- 20:28build that relationship and they're so scared of being turned away or ignored.
- 20:32So if you've got any tips, obviously you said coming along to your wedding
- 20:34fair is a good starting place.
- 20:36So any other tips you've got for how you like people to kind of approach you?
- 20:40Stef: I think it's just building some rapport to start with, you know, liking
- 20:45posts on Instagram and commenting.
- 20:47Oh my goodness, I love that.
- 20:48That's, I'd love to do something like that at your venue.
- 20:51What I dislike is when I get a message completely out of the blue from somebody,
- 20:56either an email or an Instagram message that says, Hi, I do this, can I be
- 21:02on your recommender suppliers list?
- 21:05And I just think, I don't even know who you are.
- 21:07You know, you've never commented on a, an Instagram post.
- 21:10You've appeared out of the blue.
- 21:12I, it just, it feels like that's not really the right way to do it.
- 21:18You know, we, we have a recommender suppliers list that is, that
- 21:21they are genuine recommendations.
- 21:23We don't take any kickbacks from our suppliers on our suppliers list.
- 21:27They are genuine recommendations of people we've worked with either
- 21:31through shoots or, or through our.
- 21:33We all couples weddings and that we like working with, you know, it's been a
- 21:36positive experience all round and that we feel they're aligned to our and our ethos.
- 21:42And so just getting in touch and starting some casual conversations
- 21:48in that way really is, is the best way I think showing an interest in
- 21:53the venue, making it obvious that you enjoy what that venue are doing and
- 21:59yeah, asking to get involved when there are things that are going on rather
- 22:02than just a message out of the blue.
- 22:04asking for, for something, I think is probably not the best way to do it.
- 22:08Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
- 22:09It's definitely not the best way to do it.
- 22:11And even now, I still get messages on things like LinkedIn
- 22:15to me saying, I make stationery.
- 22:17Can you tell people about it?
- 22:18I'm like, no.
- 22:19But it's not, you know, I don't know anything about you.
- 22:22I don't know who you are.
- 22:23You, I don't know what you think I'm going to help you with,
- 22:26but it's just a bit bonkers.
- 22:28So if you are the people sending those messages, it's just time to rethink
- 22:32about how we make these approaches.
- 22:34But most venues and most other suppliers are willing to be chatting
- 22:37and making these relationships.
- 22:39We just need to think about how we go about doing it.
- 22:41Now you mentioned a little bit earlier about how over the last couple of years
- 22:45you've decided to take your business more seriously as you put it and
- 22:48you've invested a lot more in training and development, learning about the
- 22:52wedding industry, thinking more about how you move your business forward.
- 22:56Why do you think that training and business development is
- 22:59so important to your business?
- 23:02Stef: Well, when you run a business, you have, you're the decision maker
- 23:07on pretty much everything, but you can't know about everything.
- 23:11You have to wear all the hats and you have to find ways to be making
- 23:17informed decisions on what you're doing.
- 23:19And the only way to do that is by training and, and business development,
- 23:24really to, to grow yourself as an individual, to know what's the best
- 23:30way to take your business forward.
- 23:31And often.
- 23:33It's just having those conversations with people and throwing ideas in the air.
- 23:40And you might hear that there's a slightly different way to do something.
- 23:43Oh, actually, that could really work for us.
- 23:45Let's give that a go.
- 23:46Because sometimes you're so tunnel visioned in running your business
- 23:51that you forget to take a step back and look at how it's doing overall
- 23:56and how it's doing in certain areas.
- 23:58I mean, one of the most important things that I've learned is that numbers is key.
- 24:04You have to know the numbers for your business because it's those
- 24:09numbers that tell you what's working well, what's not working.
- 24:15You can improve on, you know, we, We know at any given point now how many weddings
- 24:24and what the value is for the next year or two compared to the same date last
- 24:29year, you know, things like that are really important rather than Just looking
- 24:36in and saying oh, we've got looks like we've got x weddings booked in next year.
- 24:40Well, what does that mean?
- 24:41You know it you need to be looking at so much more than just that key number of
- 24:47how many weddings you're doing because there's a lot more to it than that.
- 24:51Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
- 24:52And I think sometimes, especially when we start out in business, we can go too
- 24:56much on emotion and how we're feeling.
- 24:58And actually we have to go back and look at the cold hard facts.
- 25:00I mean, sometimes I'll have a meeting with someone and they'll say, I just feel
- 25:03like business is really bad this year.
- 25:05And I'll say, well, what did you do last year?
- 25:07Well, last year I did this many and I'm doing more this year.
- 25:09So I'm like, well, why do you feel like it's.
- 25:10going so badly then?
- 25:11Because actually, sometimes when we look at the numbers, the reality is
- 25:15different to how we feel in our head.
- 25:17And actually how we feel in our head, as we said earlier, can change from the
- 25:20day when you're stood watching people getting married and thinking this is the
- 25:23best job ever to a couple of weeks later when something's not gone so well, or
- 25:27someone said no, or someone you thought was going to book has decided to go
- 25:30elsewhere, and you go the opposite way.
- 25:32So you're absolutely right.
- 25:33We have to, Get our head around these numbers.
- 25:35We've got to know what's happening, what's coming up, and if anyone's listening
- 25:38and you haven't done that, I really recommend that you start doing it because
- 25:41it will not only make you feel calmer in yourself because you've got some cold
- 25:45hard facts to look at, but it will also help you drive your business forward.
- 25:49as well and have targets to go for.
- 25:52Now, Stef, as I said in the intro, I am super excited because I am
- 25:56actually finally coming to Bennett's Willow Barn and Bennett's Willow
- 26:00Farm to come and see you in October.
- 26:04So on October the 2nd, I'm coming down to run a training day for your venue
- 26:09team and for any suppliers that are local and want to come along, or even if
- 26:12they want to come from further afield.
- 26:14So tell me a little bit about that day and what it's going to
- 26:17look like from your perspective.
- 26:19Stef: Yep.
- 26:19So, Becca, you are going to be with us for the whole day, and we're
- 26:23going to kick things off at about 9.
- 26:2430 with tea, coffee and pastries and a bit of mingling.
- 26:28And then you are going to do four talks with us throughout the day.
- 26:32So, about today's couple and what they want, competitor analysis
- 26:36and key marketing messages.
- 26:38customer journey and sales funnel, and a little bit on social media
- 26:41training, looking at what to post, when to post, et cetera.
- 26:45And those four talks are going to be split up during the day.
- 26:48We're going to have a nice lunch.
- 26:50So you can choose when you book your ticket, an afternoon tea or a
- 26:52plowman's and then we'll have tea and cake again in the afternoon.
- 26:56So lots of yummy food.
- 26:59We source most of our food locally and do most things in house.
- 27:03So yummy homemade locally sourced.
- 27:05food.
- 27:06So it will be a day full of wonderful training with you and yummy food and
- 27:12a great chance to meet up with lots of other wedding suppliers across different
- 27:17areas of the industry I'm hoping.
- 27:20And we can all celebrate the The, yeah, the end of the season I think
- 27:25is always a bit nuts for everybody.
- 27:27So it will be a nice chance to hopefully have a bit of a breather to celebrate
- 27:31the end of the key 2024 season, but start prepping ready for 2025.
- 27:37Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
- 27:38We're in that key time of year.
- 27:39I was saying that in the Members Lounge call this morning, that we're in that
- 27:42key time of the year where we're kind of coming to the end of busy wedding
- 27:45season and we feel like, oh, we can take a rest, but we're also then thinking,
- 27:49but we also need to start gearing up and getting ready for engagement season and
- 27:532025 and all of that busy time as well.
- 27:55So it is coming at the perfect time.
- 27:57I'm really looking forward to it.
- 27:58My plan for that day is to run Very interactive workshop style session.
- 28:03So it's not like just coming to watch me do a stage talk.
- 28:06It's much more of a hands on experience than that.
- 28:09So whoever's in the room, we're going to get to grips with sales funnels,
- 28:13things like that, exactly as Stef said, but it's going to be interactive.
- 28:15We're going to be looking at each other's businesses.
- 28:17We're going to be looking at competitors.
- 28:19We're going to be looking at our own competitors.
- 28:21We're going to be doing all sorts of workshop related things that number
- 28:24one, you can't do if it's online.
- 28:26And number two, you can't do if it's just a stage talk.
- 28:28So we are going to be digging deep that day, but there's also gonna be lots of
- 28:32time for networking, chatting to me.
- 28:34And it's a great opportunity to come and meet Stef as well.
- 28:37Get down and go and see Bennet's Willow Barn, because exactly as she was
- 28:40saying earlier, if you want to build relationships, You need to be in the room.
- 28:43You need to find the right people on the right day.
- 28:46So it is going to be an exciting day.
- 28:49So if people are listening to this and thinking about coming along, Stef, why do
- 28:53you think it's worth them giving up a day of their time, putting some money towards
- 28:57a ticket and coming along that day?
- 29:00Stef: When you're running your own business, it is so hard
- 29:02to make the time to learn.
- 29:04And I find the best way to make it happen is to have something in the
- 29:09diary, whether it's a whole day or a half day, but something in the diary
- 29:13that you need, that you've paid for.
- 29:16So you don't want to, to not turn up.
- 29:19I think for me, that's the best way to do it.
- 29:21And I think this is going to be, it's a whole day out of your schedule, but at the
- 29:26same time, you're going to get so much out of it, I think, with the four different
- 29:29interactive talks from you, Becca.
- 29:31So I'm really looking forward to it.
- 29:32Becca: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it as well.
- 29:34And again, that's a benefit of it being quite interactive because
- 29:37sometimes I go to conferences or I give talks at conferences and there's
- 29:40so much information coming at you on that day that you then don't then
- 29:44have the time to go and implement it.
- 29:46So my hope for the day when I come down.
- 29:48to you is that not only will we be talking about things, but trying to
- 29:52be implementing and making plans while we're in the room as well, so that we're
- 29:55not having to then go away and spend hours doing things after the session.
- 29:59But actually we're making the most of our time together, not only
- 30:03networking and mingling, but learning and then implementing as well.
- 30:06So it's going to be a lot of fun.
- 30:08If people want to get tickets, Stef, just tell us a little
- 30:11bit about the ticket price.
- 30:12And I believe you've created a special discount as well for my listeners.
- 30:15Stef: I have, yeah.
- 30:17So, tickets are 85 each, although if you use the code BECCA,
- 30:24you can get 10 percent off.
- 30:26So, anyone who's listening to this podcast 10 percent off their ticket.
- 30:30And that 85 includes the entire day, so everything you need.
- 30:34That's the, the food and drink as well as the, the training sessions by BECCA.
- 30:38Becca: Yeah, which is amazing value to get all of that as well.
- 30:41I mean, I'll let you into a secret, Stef.
- 30:43I'm going for afternoon tea in London that same week and it's costing
- 30:46me 75 just for the afternoon tea.
- 30:49I'm not even getting any training or anything like that.
- 30:51So if you're listening to this, it is an absolute bargain to get your afternoon
- 30:55tea and all the training as well.
- 30:56For the same price as I'm paying just for afternoon tea in London.
- 31:00Do come along and I will make sure I put the link to that
- 31:03in the show notes as well.
- 31:04If you've got any questions, reach out to Stef.
- 31:06Or myself, but I hope that I'll see lots of you there on the day.
- 31:10And if you're in that room, we're going to have a great time.
- 31:12So do try and be there.
- 31:14As I always say, you have to be in the room where it happens to
- 31:16find out what we're going to be doing in more detail that day.
- 31:20So Stef, we've got the training day coming up.
- 31:22We've had a busy wedding season.
- 31:24You're already planning ahead.
- 31:25What's next for you?
- 31:26What's next for Bennetts over the next couple of years?
- 31:29Stef: We're just trying to consolidate what we're doing really.
- 31:32We have been so busy the last few years.
- 31:34I mean, the winter just gone, we made a new yurt canvas.
- 31:39So up until last summer was the original yurt, which was
- 31:44starting to look a bit tired.
- 31:46So, yeah, we're just I'm hoping that this, the next couple of years are just
- 31:50going to be a little bit gentler for us really and we can continue booking in
- 31:56those couples who want those want that fun laid back wedding day and have a
- 32:01great time with them and just keep making improvements to the, to the site really.
- 32:05As I say, longer term my plan is to have a, a wonderful woodland lakeside area.
- 32:11ceremony area, but we've just been projects non stop
- 32:16for the last several years.
- 32:17So we just need to try and slow down a bit and enjoy what we've got and work
- 32:22with what we've got for a little while.
- 32:23Becca: Yeah, absolutely.
- 32:24Take a breather, a hard earned break.
- 32:27rest, if you can call it a rest, and actually just enjoy doing all of the
- 32:30things that you've put all this hard work into over the last few years.
- 32:34Now, Stef, it's been so much fun having you on the podcast.
- 32:36I always end the podcast with the same question, and I know that you're an
- 32:40avid listener, so you'll know what the question is straight away, and
- 32:43it's what's one thing you wish you'd known sooner in your own business?
- 32:48Stef: I wish I had known how important the numbers were.
- 32:52sooner because if we'd started off looking at the numbers our first
- 32:59year or two would have been quite as difficult as they turned out to be.
- 33:04I think the planning ahead we were missing the information that we needed
- 33:11to be making the decisions that we had to make and so I wish I just paid a lot
- 33:15more attention to the number crunching.
- 33:18Becca: 100 percent agree with you.
- 33:20If you're listening to this, please pay attention to your numbers.
- 33:23Stop putting your head in the sand, get those numbers out on paper, and then
- 33:26you can make much better decisions.
- 33:28Stef, thank you so much for your time today.
- 33:30Thank you for being on the podcast.
- 33:31And I cannot wait to see you on the farm in October.
- 33:36Stef: Thanks, Becca.
- 33:37Look forward to seeing you then.
- 33:41Becca: I love that episode with Stef.
- 33:43What a fascinating life to be living and working on a farm and working in
- 33:47the wedding industry at the same time.
- 33:49If you want to come along to that training day on the 2nd of October,
- 33:52I hope that I will see you there.
- 33:53I will make sure the link is in the show notes.
- 33:55Come and have a look at the farm, come and meet Stef and come and
- 33:58learn about your wedding business and how to grow it in 2025 as well.
- 34:02I'll see you next time.