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Detroit Tigers Hit Losing Skid · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Norkay Tiger's podcast. I'm Kieren Steckley. We
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  Speaker 1: got Austin Jackson, we got Cody Savanagen, and we got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of road losses to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Boys.
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  Speaker 3: So all those kind of good, good.
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  Speaker 1: Timey vibes that we were enjoying on the homestand in
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  Speaker 1: terms of topics to discuss have gone out the window
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, out the window, not out the door.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doing any panicking over here, but we do
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  Speaker 1: have to talk about the results on the field. So
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  Speaker 1: Tigers eight to five loss on Monday, six or four
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  Speaker 1: loss on Tuesday, so they drop a series to the
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  Speaker 1: Houston Astros. And if I were to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: do a simplistic summary, I would say that it was
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  Speaker 1: the ball bounce. And what I mean by that not
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  Speaker 1: that they got bad although the Tigers are actually low
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  Speaker 1: key kind of bad luck team. Maybe a topic for
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  Speaker 1: another day, but like, it's not that they had bad luck,
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  Speaker 1: is that they played in a lot of ways, like
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  Speaker 1: enough to win the game in several facets, but not
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  Speaker 1: enough in the whole, in the in the sum of
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  Speaker 1: the parts, right, So you have two home runs from
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  Speaker 1: Riley Green on Monday, you get two home runs one
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  Speaker 1: each game from Carry Carpenter we'll talk about him in
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  Speaker 1: a second, and for the majority of each game you
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  Speaker 1: got good to pretty dang good starting pitching. Still, you
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  Speaker 1: come out losing to the Astros. So Cody Austin, whichever one,
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  Speaker 1: wants to kind of take this one first, your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on this, thoughts on this series as as it pertains
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  Speaker 1: to the Tigers in the panic level that should set it.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I don't think there's any panic here,
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  Speaker 4: you know because like like we were, like we keep
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  Speaker 4: speaking about that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the games that they're losing, they're they're there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not like they're just going out getting
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  Speaker 4: blown out and it's like, whoa, we need to just
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  Speaker 4: figure something else.
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  Speaker 2: We got to hit a reset. But that's not this.
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  Speaker 4: You know, these guys are the Tigers are still playing
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  Speaker 4: really good baseball. There's a lot of positives to take
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  Speaker 4: out of these last two losses. Obviously they're losses, so
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  Speaker 4: you know that that is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, the starting pitching has been solid.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's something that this team is going to
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  Speaker 4: have to continue to get out of these starters. They're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to get you know, five or six you
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  Speaker 4: know plus innings of good pitching, and so far.
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  Speaker 2: They've been getting that. They kind of ran it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to say bad luck, because hey, you
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  Speaker 4: got to tip your hat to the Astros.
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  Speaker 2: Now they play some ball and they didn't give up today.
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  Speaker 4: They they strung together some good hits and are they
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  Speaker 4: put the burrel on the ball late in the game,
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  Speaker 4: got some timely hits.
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  Speaker 2: That's baseball, you know, just out of the reach, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean three feet to the left, that's right to a
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  Speaker 4: defender and you know we're out of the inning.
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  Speaker 2: But it didn't work out that way.
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  Speaker 4: So there's I'm not hitting the panic, but I'm not
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  Speaker 4: gonna do that because I see the type of baseball
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  Speaker 4: that's still being played. There's still there's still these good
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  Speaker 4: things that I'm seeing throughout the game that I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: they're they still believe they can win no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: Like we earlier, we talked about the double still.
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  Speaker 4: Just something that won't really you know, highlight this game,
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  Speaker 4: but that those type of things that gets.
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  Speaker 2: Me pumped up. I mean that they're they're still in it.
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  Speaker 4: They're they're aware, they're they're they're they're still in the game.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, we are trying to put as many runs
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  Speaker 4: on y'all. And and and in a game where this
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  Speaker 4: was some really good pitching, by the way, both pitchers,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hey, they were going at it with with
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  Speaker 4: an exception to a couple of pitches with two strikes.
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  Speaker 2: My man carp you know, at the top, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying this.
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  Speaker 4: Day and Torres two strike hitting right field, beautiful swing.
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  Speaker 2: This was a good pitching game.
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  Speaker 4: It just turned out that the Astros put put together
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  Speaker 4: a string of good hits, timely hits, and it went
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  Speaker 4: their way today.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, you know what a week or so ago,
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  Speaker 5: when we thought Kerry Carpenter might be going on the il,
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  Speaker 5: and I said, like it, it feels like the Rubbers
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  Speaker 5: about to meet the road a little bit, not necessarily
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  Speaker 5: that things were about to go bad, but just that
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  Speaker 5: the Tigers were about to be tested. Well, maybe I
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  Speaker 5: was a few games early on that because baseball few
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  Speaker 5: orioles and made it look easy.
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  Speaker 6: But now you're being tested a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Not panicking, because we don't panic after two games on
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  Speaker 5: this podcast. We don't do that, but both these games
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  Speaker 5: were kind of strange and just how quickly they turned.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Game one, it was kind of the two
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  Speaker 5: Tray Sweeney errors and then boom. Game two, ries Olsen.
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  Speaker 6: Was dialed in. Through five He's.
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  Speaker 5: Dominating the bottom rail again and then two walks.
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  Speaker 6: One of them was a two out walk.
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  Speaker 5: Looks like he was trying to get himself over the plate,
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  Speaker 5: a little more left, an a one sinker middle the Christian
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  Speaker 5: walker double boom. He gets pulled while vest comes in.
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  Speaker 5: Wasn't himself spraying the ball a little bit. Next thing
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Tigers are down and the Astros are
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  Speaker 5: building onto that lead. Also, when we had Chandler Roman,
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  Speaker 5: it was funny we were kind of talking about it.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, well, the Astros aren't the Juggernaut anymore, and
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  Speaker 5: the Tigers are here to stake their claim as one
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  Speaker 5: of the best teams in the American League. A little
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  Speaker 5: bit of a reminder that like the Astros maybe aren't
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  Speaker 5: what they were two three years ago, this is still
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  Speaker 5: a really good baseball team. The Astros have been up
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  Speaker 5: there with the Rays for me over they hit the
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  Speaker 5: last few years of teams that just give you nothing.
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  Speaker 5: And they don't have Alex Bregman anymore, who's that type
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  Speaker 5: of player, but they still have some dudes who really
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  Speaker 5: make you work. They play a very smart brand of baseball.
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  Speaker 5: Their front office isn't as data driven as it used
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  Speaker 5: to be, but it's still a very smart organization. Like
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  Speaker 5: they can win on the margins too, even though they
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  Speaker 5: have a little more star power than the Tigers. And
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  Speaker 5: I think we just kind of saw that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: for a rare occasion this season, where the Tigers did
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  Speaker 5: make some mistakes and the Astros capital heights and they
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  Speaker 5: capitalized quickly.
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  Speaker 1: So as of now, going into Wednesday, the Tigers hold
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  Speaker 1: a thirteen and three record at home. On the road,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different. It's five and nine and
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  Speaker 1: and I'll and I'll be fair here, I'll go to
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just think about who they've played on
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  Speaker 1: the road. So you start the season at Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Then you're at Seattle, you play at Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: you're at Houston. There's one I'm missing there, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: not at the top of my head. But the point
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  Speaker 1: is You'rewaukee, Milwaukee. I'm sorry, Yes, So that's playoff or
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  Speaker 1: near playoff teams and obviously World Series champion from last season.
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  Speaker 1: Right that you're so you're not You're playing really good teams,
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  Speaker 1: and in each one of those.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of had their own story.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to try to break down every game,
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  Speaker 1: but the bottom of the line is, right now, there
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  Speaker 1: is a stark difference between their record at home and
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  Speaker 1: their record on the road. So I guess, Austin, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a general statement, not necessarily like you know,
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  Speaker 1: take out playoffs and you know, maybe like even like
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  Speaker 1: August September games, you know, but just just like in general,
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  Speaker 1: because the Tigers are about to be on like a
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  Speaker 1: pretty unique road trip. If you look at the time zone,
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  Speaker 1: shout out to Tiger's PR and X for kind of
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  Speaker 1: pointing out, you know, what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Like, what is is there? Anything? Is there anything?
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, the home road splits is one of
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  Speaker 1: those things that just anybody could look at and say, like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: they obviously are a bad road team or a good
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  Speaker 1: home team, vice versa.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything to you know, the difference between playing
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  Speaker 1: at home and on the road, especially when you have
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  Speaker 1: a long home stand and a long road trip I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, it's still baseball, right, Like, that's what people are
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  Speaker 4: gonna say. They're gonna say, it's still baseball. You're you're
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  Speaker 4: getting paid millions of dollars. What's what's the thing. But
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot that goes into that, the time zones,
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  Speaker 4: like you just said, I mean, hey, that is that's
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  Speaker 4: a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's another that's another thing. At home.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, you got you got your fans, You're
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  Speaker 4: you're comfortable. You you wake up in your own bed,
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  Speaker 4: You're getting the breakfast in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Wife, you're cooking eggs, biscuits, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you getting them them them.
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  Speaker 4: Nice patties, you know them good ones, the ones that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of got.
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  Speaker 2: A little grease on it that you need. You soak
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  Speaker 2: it up with that biscuit. You feel no. But I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard because when you look at the type of
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  Speaker 4: team that the Tigers are, like they played really well
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  Speaker 4: at home and they just don't really have anything to
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  Speaker 4: show for it on the road right now. I think
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  Speaker 4: that that's going to start to turn around eventually. But
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  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna have to probably, you know, not probably,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna have to correct some things.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to have.
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  Speaker 4: To really force their their wheel on teams early in
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  Speaker 4: ball games. I think they're gonna have to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously score more runs. They're gonna have to you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're you're hitting first. They're gonna have to attack like
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  Speaker 4: they did tonight. But I think they got to put
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more pressure on teams on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I used to love playing on the road.
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  Speaker 4: I loved going into somebody else's house and taking it
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  Speaker 4: from them.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. So I think they're.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna have to start to get that edge, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we going into somebody's house, We're taking it.
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  Speaker 2: We're at least taking this series.
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  Speaker 4: It just hasn't it haven't. It hasn't for some reason
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  Speaker 4: worked out for them this year. But I do think
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  Speaker 4: it will start to turn around. I do think when
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  Speaker 4: you're at home again, you have, you know, your fans,
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  Speaker 4: you're in that that that comfort zone. Teams are, you know,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that you know it's gonna be tough, you know,
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  Speaker 4: playing against the Tigers at home, but they just haven't
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  Speaker 4: really scared anybody yet, you know, on the road. And
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  Speaker 4: like I said, I think it will eventually turn around.
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  Speaker 4: They'll they'll find there, they'll find their you know, their
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  Speaker 4: groove on the road and they'll uh, you know, make
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  Speaker 4: sure they're going when they're going to you know, people
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  Speaker 4: in their division. You know, when you go into their house.
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  Speaker 4: You got to take those series. You gotta take them.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta let them know that you don't have a
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  Speaker 4: chance right away from the first game. Hey, this is
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  Speaker 4: this is our division. We're taking it. And I think
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  Speaker 4: I think they'll get back, you know, on track, and
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  Speaker 4: it'll turn around soon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: If I the guests, the Tigers are gonna play a
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  Speaker 5: little worse at home and a little better on the road,
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  Speaker 5: because that's just how baseball tends to work. It doesn't
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  Speaker 5: hurt that you're finishing this road trip in Colorado. The
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  Speaker 5: Rockies have four wins right now. It's almost hard to
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  Speaker 5: be as bad as the Rocky tay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about Austin putting in the call on
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  Speaker 1: on a certain hitter, batting in a certain spot here
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  Speaker 1: in a second. After a word from our sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: Stream Yeah, catchy uh so recording this mirror hours after
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  Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter hit himself a leadoff home run. The clip
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  Speaker 1: that was circulating was Austin spitting truth about, Hey, if
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  Speaker 1: you're if you're a batting lead off, just be you
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  Speaker 1: be yourself as the leadoff hitter. Don't try to be
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  Speaker 1: the quote unquote leadoff hitter. Just be yourself batting lead off.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously you know, and I'll give our listeners a
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  Speaker 1: lot of credit that they know that you know, batting
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  Speaker 1: lead off quote unquote is really just one time. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a one time thing, right, Other than that, you're
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  Speaker 1: just kind of batting. But uh, it's still I still
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  Speaker 1: think there's kind of a mental thing whenever it's like
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  Speaker 1: the start of the game. And and I'm that's why
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  Speaker 1: I love having Austin's insize here. But we talked about
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  Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter. He's speaking of fans of Sports Network. He
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  Speaker 1: was our player spotlight because he had not done that
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  Speaker 1: well quote unquote batting leadoff or at least being in
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  Speaker 1: the one hole. And and uh, the the opposite has happened,
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  Speaker 1: so we gotta get we got it. We talked about
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  Speaker 1: one thing. The opposite happens. We gotta give credit. Carry
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  Speaker 1: Carpenter is he's lead off king. He is as I
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  Speaker 1: put on X, he's not carry bonds, he's Carrie.
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  Speaker 5: Henderson were not got might not be having this discussion though,
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  Speaker 5: if they just would have reviewed if he was said
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  Speaker 5: by the.
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  Speaker 2: Pitch, nah, nah nah, I didn't see that. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see that. I didn't see it. I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 4: No, man, you gotta think though, Like, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: I talked to a man, carp and you know I
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  Speaker 4: hit him up right before the game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm lying, first of all, I didn't do any of that.
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  Speaker 4: But this is the thing though, like he did exactly
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  Speaker 4: what I was talking about, though, Like, don't change who
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  Speaker 4: you are.
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  Speaker 2: You go out there and be who you are.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember the first time that I stepped
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  Speaker 4: into a big league clubhouse, the Tigers for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: and I remember Jim Leland calling me in and he's
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  Speaker 4: telling me that we don't want you to be Curtis Grandison,
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  Speaker 4: we want you to be Austin Jackson. That took all
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  Speaker 4: the pressure off off of my shoulders to go out
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  Speaker 4: there and try to be something that I wasn't. And
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  Speaker 4: that is what he has to do. I mean, he
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  Speaker 4: gets down one two. I guess y'all can say he
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  Speaker 4: got hit or didn't get hit the review I didn't
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  Speaker 4: see it that way. And then steps up there and
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  Speaker 4: takes a fastball up in the zone and drives it
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  Speaker 4: out the park. This is what he is capable of doing.
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  Speaker 4: This is why he's there. He's there to get that
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  Speaker 4: boom right away, and this is what it's gonna take.
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  Speaker 4: This is the type of jump start this team needs.
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  Speaker 4: You need a guy up at the top of the
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  Speaker 4: lineup that can see pitches that can put the ball
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  Speaker 4: in play with hard contact, not just going they're punching
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  Speaker 4: the ball the other way, even though there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 4: with that, right Like the prototypical leadoff hitter can do
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  Speaker 4: that great. But when you got a guy that can
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  Speaker 4: swing the bat like that, they can attack the pictures
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  Speaker 4: at the top of the zone. Have no problem getting
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  Speaker 4: to those pictures and driving them out either way, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: He has that type of power.
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  Speaker 4: I watched his swing, and honestly, at first, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna work, and he proved me wrong every single time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's got to be strong, he's got to
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  Speaker 4: be strung, because it almost looks like he doesn't finish
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  Speaker 4: his swing.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a two hand wap and then he like
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  Speaker 2: stops and he's done. I'm like, man, and.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just driving balls out, you know, both ways, left,
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  Speaker 4: right field. He has the ability, like I said, to
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  Speaker 4: jump start this team each and every time he goes
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  Speaker 4: up their leadoff.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it. I loved it. Even with two strips.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't really change his approach and that's his swing
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  Speaker 4: though his swing is short, just like that, no matter what.
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  Speaker 4: So I love it. And he made me look good,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, maybe look like I know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I've seen carry Carpenter hammer a lot of
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  Speaker 5: elevated fastballs. He can get to the inside ones. I
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why people are still throwing him there
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  Speaker 5: two strikes. You think you're gonna you're gonna beat.
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  Speaker 2: Him on that.
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  Speaker 6: It's not the guy I would throw that pitch.
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  Speaker 1: It's also I know that wasn't the case today. But
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  Speaker 1: it's also kind of a fun combination I think to have.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you have hobby, hobby in the nine hole,
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  Speaker 1: you know set you know, I know a j doesn't
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  Speaker 1: believe in it, but like second leadoff hit or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and then setting up setting up carry like at least
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  Speaker 1: that's a guy who's gonna he's gonna run the bases
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  Speaker 1: ahead of the top of the order right as the turnover.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of fun. A little little trivia,
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  Speaker 1: little little trivia right here. See, I'm gonna put Austin
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  Speaker 1: on the spot real quick. Do you know, Austin, how
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  Speaker 1: many leadoff home runs you had, like right off the game?
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  Speaker 1: How mad career lead off home runs did you have.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, I only can remember one.
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  Speaker 3: What do you what do you remember about it?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I remember it was CC Sabbathia and you talk about
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: poke the bear.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Don't poke the bear, because.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I think he might have went like seven hutty after
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: that after that, And so I mean, I remember, I
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: think it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Was my rookie year in New York.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: First pitch jumped them, you know, first it's just a
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: fastball inside, you know, just first pitch of the game.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Just get me over fastball. And I clipped them.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: And man, when I tell you that was the wrong
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: thing to do for us. Up, man, I'm talking about
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: I woke. I woke a monster and I mean, I
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: was happy, I got my I got my little hit
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: and got on the beaut of there. But I think
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I might have punched three times after that. So if
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I can't remember any any other times that
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: just that really stood out to me because one that
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: was off CC and then what he did test the
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: rest of the game.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. You tell me, you got the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: stats man, you tell me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And a nice dozen, A nice dozen. Twelve career lead
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: off home run.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Wow, twelve, I don't remember one.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you know in twenty twelve you had six six Oh.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Man, dang, I was I forgot about that year. Yeah,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I was clicking that year year.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So Carrie's only got eleven to catch your catch you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: all right? So he's on, he's on it, He's on
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a good start. He's see what happens.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: He's there, he's there. He has it, man, he has
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: all the he has the swing for it. Like I said,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: it's super short man. And I love seeing I love
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: seeing the angles from from the side because it really
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: didn't means from the front you can't really see all
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the movement in their load and stuff like that. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: when they show up from the side, and when I
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: saw where he was catching those pitches out front like that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, he's strong.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: He strong, he cockstroke he like you know, cock diesel
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: strong to be hitting the ball like that, that's a
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: flyout for any For me, if I swung with two
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: hands and.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Stop my swing, that's a flyout to the short sent So.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: This dude is I mean, he he. I think he
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: has some I think it's something to the carry bonds.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: But I almost like Carry Henderson too, like that got
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: a little you know what I mean, they got a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: little ring to it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: I think I think your record might be safe here Austin.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: So they think by the sign Matt Vierling and or
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Parker Meadows get back, Carry's gonna be going back to
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: the middle of that order driving in some runs. But
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: sounds like you might want to get on X and
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: check out the debates between Carrie's hitting coach and like
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Chipper Jones and a bunch of other guys just argue
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: about hitting and how much weight you should put on
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: your back leg and uh, it got heated this offseason
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: into February.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: It's kind of ridiculous.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Because it's the same.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It's the Aaron Judge right like, it's the same thing,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and Austin's right like when it doesn't look like much
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like if if you just tried to do that yourself
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: at the batting cage. I don't think the general person
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: would like be able to connect that well. And I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: don't think you would necessarily like teach that correct me
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Austin to the kids to just kind of,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, to go about.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It that way.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But Aaron Judging and Carry Carpenter, it's it's it's also
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: not like the worst endorsement of a batting style I've
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. I also wouldn't feel like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: getting an argument with Chipper Jones, So.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: That's you don't want to go there. That's not when
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: you go win. And it's more to it, you know.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: We I kid, you know, I joke around, but it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: definitely more to it there. It looks a certain way,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: but I can absolutely guarantee you that there's way more
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: that goes into that swing. And I'm sure if we
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: broke it down scientifically and just started, you know, showing
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: where his weight distribution is to where he makes contact
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: with those pictures, Because first of all, the pitch is
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: up in his zone. You have to catch those out front,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: and he's not just you know, catching you know, ninety two.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I mean he's ninety five up at the top of
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: the zone. So his bat path is short. You know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: he has a very short swing, and I think that
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: that kind of you know, helps him in a way
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: to get to those pictures because if you had this big,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: long swing, you're not.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Getting to those pictures. Not in today's game.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: These guys throw way too much gas up there and
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: they live up there and they can go up there consistently.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So for him to be able to get to the
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: top of the zone like that, I mean, it's it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: super impressive to watch.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: And it is a really good batpath, and that is
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: one of the principles his coach, Richard Shane aka Teacher
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: man Kind, is that that snap it motion and it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: really getting a barrel to be on plane the whole time.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: And people have varying opinions on that, but you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: it kind of makes sense to.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Me, but that's what it is. It looks like a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: little it looks like a snack.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: It's like a twizz, you know, and it's like whoa,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Like he's done, and man, maybe it's something to that,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: you know, like we've always been told like to not
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to say he's not following through, but you know, follow
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: through and the back comes, you know, behind your back,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: and his is like almost stopping out front. But he's
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: all the way through it. He's done with his swing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: He's already hit the ball and stayed through it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: That's all he needs. Like I said, I think you
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: got to be strong to do that. So I know
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not teaching my intros to do that because none
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: of them are strong enough to hit that way.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a combination of like like I said,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: strength and quick power, but also the same time, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: really being under control to be able to finish kind
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of that lack of better term like calmly.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Is a way I will put it.
• 22:04
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• 23:27
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• 23:32
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• 23:34
  Speaker 2: y'all set me up on that a little bit, you know, just.
• 23:38
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• 23:42
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• 23:45
  Speaker 4: once you got you know, I get a little beard,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: you know, trimmed up a little bit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: But ain't not bringing this back. I'm telling you right now,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: in the world, just bringing this skill itch with some
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: hair on it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: If I if I get, if I get an edge up,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I know I went under the knife straight up. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: just I'm gonna come back next next week. I'm gonna
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: have a nice low edge.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: It's neutral. I'm I'm gonna have him send me some supplements.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Let me see if it really works. I want my
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: beard to come down here.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's that good.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: No notes, no notes on that one, No notes on
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that one. Well we'll make the unfortunate transition after that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: great dandon right.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: There, Austin.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: One of the themes what got Game one away was
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Tray Sweeney in the field.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: He had two errors.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Now, just a general statement here, Cody, Cody knows it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: better than anybody the general statement. If you get credit
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: with two errors in the games, you earned the errors
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: because I don't know how they are in youth baseball
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: right now, Austin, but in the major leagues they are
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: dying to not give anybody errors. Just in general, Uh, Trace,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: we did not have a single game last season with
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: two errors. He had one obviously on Monday. So without
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: trying to like dive too deep, because I am a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: firm believer that you know, over a course of one
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two games, s happens. Rights happens to everybody.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: But I am curious Austin as someone who, uh, prided
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: yourself on defense, number one, So the kind of two
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: sides of this, pride yourself on defense and also you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: had guys around you that were good defenders on the field.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Like if you have somebody who has.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Kind of rudimentary errors, like it may be multiple in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the game, and we've seen a couple from the Tigers
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: just in general this year, Like how what are you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: reacting in the moment? And then like how do you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: is it one of those things do you like, do
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you talk to him in the in the dugout afterwards?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Is it a case by case basis?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And then how would you feel if you just I'm
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: sure you probably drop the fly ball in your in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: your life, you know, so so like, how how do
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you handle like just like I can't believe I just
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: did that errors both like from a teammate perspective and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: then when when you do.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I mean as a teammate in the moment,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: you're not you know, you kind of feel for you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: you feel for your teammate because that's your that's your brother,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And uh, you know the
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: main thing that you can do is just you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: try to lift the spirits, you know, go by tap man,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you're good man. Let's go like you good, you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to get his mind off of because we've all been there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: There is not a major leaguer that will tell you
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: that they haven't dreaded the ball being hit to them sometimes,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: like there has been times, no joke, like just non pressure,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: non pressure situation, ground ball up the middle, and for
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: some reason, I just don't feeld it clean. I mean,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: it'll bounce out or it'll go.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: It's for some reason.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: It's probably different his case because he's going to probably
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: get more uh ground balls, more pressure type situations than
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: an outfielder will.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But there's just times where I just feel like for some.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Reason, it's just you're just off, you know, just kind
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: of like at the plate when you're timing is just off.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Things are just off.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: You're timing with fielding a ground ball, or you're you're
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: constantly getting a bad hop, or you're you're not you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: getting the best grip on the ball, you're rushing, you're
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: doing things out of the ordinary that you wouldn't typically do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And that's that's kind of what I see. I think
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that he's just.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Having a bad stretch right now where he's just just
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: a little off. And then you can start to play
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: mind games a little bit with yourself, you know, like
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I said, you kind of don't hit this.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Bottle of me bam right to you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And it's it's not like a I mean, yes it's
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a it's a ground ball, but it's like a two
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: hopper with with.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Steam on it, you know what I mean.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: It's skip it, it's doing something and you field it
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and then you grip were like a splitter there and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you're like, man, I'm about to throw the nastiest.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Slitty the first base right now to please.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: You know, you just like bro as soon as you
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: throw it, you like with the puppy that like, please
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: just helped me out. But but seriously, though, like we've
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: all been there, I don't, you know, I feel for
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: for him, you know, but I don't think that it's something.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's mentally.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Tough enough where you know, these are just some some
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: flute plays and you know, I'm not going to put
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: too much on it because I know how hard it is.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how many ground balls you take before
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: the game, after the game. When you're getting the game,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: it's different. You know, every ball is hit to you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: You're you're having to field it and get rid of
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: it because guys are zipping it out the box. So
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I think that you know, maybe a little mind games
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: probably came in there for you know, a little bit
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: where you know, you're just kind of second guessing yourself,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: second guessing how hard I throw the ball. Do I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: really get on it and you know a chance throw
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: one in the stands, or do I just take a
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: nice easy throw And then you kind of let off
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit, You second guess yourself a little bit.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Sometimes even on defense.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: And just regular ground balls that you have done millions
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: of millions of times sometimes can be the hardest ones
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: because it's you know, they're right there.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: It's so easy. You should be able to make the play.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows you should be able to make the play,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and it just doesn't happen.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: It's just baseball.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: And you know, you kind of kick yourself a little
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: bit like, hey, let's go, like I can do this.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: It's just all about, you know, believing in yourself that
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna get the next one, like you
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: gotta believe that, Hey, the next one, I'm getting it out.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I'm getting this out. I'm filling this ball clean, I'm
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: getting rid of it. This is just what I do.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: You know, next play, you know, erase those plays. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: he was able to make some play today. You know
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: it was a it was a little bit there, but
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you know it's it's you gotta see some go.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Your way a little bit too.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: You know, you need some luck to you know, you
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: need some of those those those those balls that are
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you know, tough hit in the hole and you field
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: them and you make a good little skip throw over
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: there and he gets it. Hey, that's that's the game.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Keep playing. I wouldn't get down on it over these
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: over these plays. I think he's a good shortstop. He's
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: shown plenty of times he can make great plays at shortstop.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: So you know, you look at some of the best
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: short stops in in the history of this game.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: They've had bad games. It's just it's just what it is.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: You don't like to see it, but it happens. You
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: move on.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: You know that he's capable of doing it, and you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think you put too much into it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, I think I do think it is
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: worth noting his throws to first for a little bit
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: off all weekend in the Baltimore Series. I think he's
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: been fielding the ball on his heels a little bit.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: One of the thirst to second Monday night. That was
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: definitely the case. Bad throws, usually, especially in the infield,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: usually start with bad feet, and that's a rhythm thing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: That's one of those things you can just fall into things.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: You got to get feet moving.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: A little more.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Big picture on Sweeney, I'm actually really impressed with him
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: in the field. He just moves really well, really smoothly
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: at shortstop. Metrically, I think he got dinged after those
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: bad throws, but the range factor, he's still grading out
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: really well. In I'm more worried about the dude at
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: the plate. His average is now below two hundred and
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: against right handed pitching, where you would want to see
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: a left handed hitter thrive, he's hitting.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: One sixty seven. So I was kind of looking like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: all right, what's going on? And you just pull up
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: his stat cast page and it's pretty interesting because he's
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: got plus batspeed. He's doing a great job controlling the
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: strike zone. He's not chasing, he's not striking out a ton.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: He's taking his walks, but he's not really barreling the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: ball up.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: He's not hitting the ball hard. He's getting way more
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: on the ground than he was last year. The launch
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: angles down. His ground ball rate is sixty percent.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Right now, so that one probably you got to find
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: a way to correct that without as you know us
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: and trying too hard to hit the ball in the air.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: And then then you start with him, then you start
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: striking out. I think that's a balance for any hitter.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: But I was worried about Tray Sweeney's back coming into
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: this season. He got off to a pretty nice start.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: We're seeing this correct pretty hard. I think it's clear
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: he's gonna have to make some sort of adjustment to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: begin driving the ball a little but more.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Sometimes those two can play hand in hand too, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: like with your confidence.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: You know, just I'm just not playing well.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing the style of baseball that I'm capable
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: of playing.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And uh, you know there have been times.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Even on defense that that affects my confidence at the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: plate because I'm thinking about those things I'm thinking about.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Man, you know, I messed it up.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: You know, I let a run, you know, I had
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: an air, let a runner get on, a runner scored.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: And then you start playing those those mind games and
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: then you take that to the plate.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And you just like, don't strike out. You just try
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: to put the ball in play.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: You know, you're not going up there with that aggressive
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: mindset like, hey, I'm still I still got to bat
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: in my hand, I still can do damage.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: And I, like I said, there's no panic there. You
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: want to see the.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Results, right, like everybody wants the results to come. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: think they'll come. I think he needs to, you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: just settle down, make those routine plays. Continue to make
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the routine plays. That's the thing, you know, Make the
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: routine plays, and I think the bat will come around.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I think that, you know, if he's if his spirits
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: are high and he's not getting too down on hisself
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: about making those plays or lack of the plays, then
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I think he'll be fine.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: This is where I feel the need to mention that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Tray Sweeney has played sixty five career Major League baseball games,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: not including postseason.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: It feels like more than that, right, We've just gotten
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: so used to him.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just putting that out there.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: He takes time. Man, this time, that is a that's
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: a prime position. You know, you are going to get
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: some bolves hit to you. So when you're a little off,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: you're a little off. But like I said, I don't
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I don't because of the plays that I've seen him make.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I can't, you know, I can't go I can't go
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: away from him. I think he's gonna be fine. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: think he just needs to settle down, take a deep breath.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Just so that's it sounds simple.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Right, easy game? Yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of playing, it's time for our fan Duel
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Sports Network players Spotlight, and we are doing Jackson Joe,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: who has not played in twelve days or it will be.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It will be twelve days cater Montero has pitched twice
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: since last time Jackson Joe took the mound for the Tigers.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: That was April.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was April sixteenth, Yeah, April eight teeth,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: E sees me. April eighteenth was the last time we
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: saw one Jackson Job. Uh, schedule finagling as well as
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: as well as you know, rain out in there with
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a doubleheader and and all the and you know, try
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and AJ obviously slashed. Front office juggling, pitching staff juggling,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like you know, routines and and days and days between
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: starts and blah blahlah blah. Regardless it he's a rookie,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, all these factors. Jackson Job has not pitched
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: in what seems like a long time. We'll see him
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, trying to salvage.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: The first part of this road trip, Cody, Uh, I
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: almost forgot what it was like. What is Jackson Job like?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: What he pitches?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Twelve days? A long time.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: We were doing three podcasts a week, and and and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and and watching all these games.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Feels like a long time. What is he does he
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: like throw fastball fast or curveball?
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: No, it's it's it's been a long time. It's interesting,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: you know, load management from the TIS. With the guy
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: this young, you know he's going to come out want
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: some innings limits, restrictions. They're looking to build in time
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: for him. Really any chance they get now, twelve days
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: feels a little bit extreme, and especially after the rainout,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: they got to a point where it was like, Okay,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: do we want to take extra time for Jackson or
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: if they kind of reinserted him and he pitched on
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: six days rest seven days rest, it would also push
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: everyone else back, so Scooba would be going on six
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: days rest instead of five, Flarity would be going on
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: six days instead of five. They kind of decided, we
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: want to keep these other guys in their regular routine.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: We will gladly take this chance to not give Jackson
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: a breather, But ultimately it comes down to innings limits
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: like that. That's what this is all about. With Jackson Joe,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: combining that with the schedules of the other pitchers. We'll
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: see how this works out. Clearly the Tigers put a
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: lot of thought into it. We've talked about them really
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: starting to light guys going on five days rest versus
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: for but in terms of innings restrictions and how much
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: should a young pitcher throw.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: I think even they would admit there's still not a
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: great science. There's still not a great way to know
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: how to best protect a young pitcher's arm. This seems
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: like one more attempt to try to do that, basically,
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: so you can have Jackson Job available in September and October.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: And that's why Jackson Job himself said it was like, hey,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: you know, I wanted to pitch, but I'd rather be
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: at my best in October. I know that's when it
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: really counts.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. It's it's I mean, it is.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: It is a little odd, right, especially for a young guy,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: you know, who doesn't have that many innings.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: But there has to be something behind it. You know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Aj is a I'm not really gonna question too much
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: he does. I mean, he's a he's a mad scientist.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Like the stuff he does is next level and I'm
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: not on that level, so I.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Can't really question it, you know what I mean.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: But you know, we know he's young, we know were
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: these capable capable of you know, I think that they're
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: they are kind of trying to protect him a little bit,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: but also to you know, make sure that he is
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: for longevity throughout this season, able to go later later
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: in the in the season. You know, but this twelve
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: that's a long time. That's a long time for anybody.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: And and you know, you got to think about to
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: you know, your your routine. That's a that's a huge thing,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: especially for for pictures because they have these weird routines.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: They do some of the weirdest.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Things, and they don't like for their schedules or routines
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: to be messed with. So hopefully this isn't something that
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: you know, throws him off of anything. It's it should
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: be good for his health for you know, getting this
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: break for your arm.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I mean you're getting you're getting that break.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's getting his work in and he's doing
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: everything that he possibly can do to make sure he's
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: standing sharp and you know, the conditioning and that that's
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the main thing. When you get off your schedule, your
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: routine like that, you got to you know.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Question is the.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: You know, the the stamina and everything gonna still still
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: be there because you're used to working on a certain schedule.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: But I don't think this is something that's gonna hurt
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: him or I don't think he's gonna go out there
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: and look like he's never pitched before, right, Like, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: think he'll I think he'll be fine. He's young, I'm young, dudes, man,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: they got.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's gonna be It's actually gonna
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be fascinating to watch, to see just you know, how
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: he looks after such a long layoff, so early in
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the season, so early obviously in his career. And you
• 39:40
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• 40:09
  Speaker 1: just for the record there on job his pitch counts
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: seventy nine, eighty six, eighty seven, and eighty seven in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: his starts, So not.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Really lie now, it's just in there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Just wanted to stay with the pitch counts were for
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: for him because he Obviously it was a short outing,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: ending wise his first star of the season, first career,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: first career start, but he had, uh, he had settled
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: in there pretty soon. So, like I said, get kind
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of tasks with saving saving them first for a road trip.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: No small no small tasks there for for Jackson. All right, guys,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. Anything else you want
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to get off the chest before we jet out of here?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, we keep going. We talk about Riley. That's good man,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Riley Riley.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Look, that's you know, I'm not it's I'm I'm a
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: little biased, right because this is Tigers. You know, I'm
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: gonna be a little biased. That was that was who
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I spent the majority of my career. I don't I'm
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: not worried again. I'm not worried because I think that
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: you still see enough signs in there that that that
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: bat at some point is gonna get hot, and when
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: it does, it's gonna be scary for opposing pictures. He's
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: not hisself right now. I mean he even admitted it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know, I don't know what what
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: it is. You know, he hit the two home runs,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: but that's the that's the thing though, like, no, who
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: just hits two home runs when they're not.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Really feeling good.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Like when I when I wouldn't feeling good, it was
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: or it was some punchies and it was just some contact.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: And I mean he made some really solid contact today.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: There was, uh, you know, a ball I think he
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: hit to left field. I think he stayed on a
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: on a on a fastball went to left field. And
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: those are good signs as hitters, when you're kind of
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: battling with your time and you're you're kind of off
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: with your pitch recognition, those are those are great signs.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: You're able to hit a line drive to the opposite field.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: That's helping you stay on the ball, that's helping you
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: see the ball. But I mean he still came into
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: this game I think slug in six forty three. I think,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: which is you know, he's still clicking the ball. The
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: average and all that isn't there, But like I said,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: there's still signs there to let you know that this
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: is an all star man. This dude, this dude, this
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: isn't just like just a regular dude that's struggling. When
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: he gets hot, He's gonna get hot and it's coming
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: it's a matter of time. You see it throughout the
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: league with certain you know stars struggling and then they
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: kind of find their stride and then you look up
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: they're hitting two sixty, two seventy with fifteen, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: and so it happens. They know he can hit there.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Nobody's trying to just throw him meatballs all day, like
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: if you do, he's gonna hit it. And he's shown
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: that and the bat is coming, it's gonna get hot,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna be it's gonna be scary.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I love those you know swings where Riley drives one
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: to left center. He makes them look pretty. He can
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: hit the ball a long way out there. That was
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: one of the positive takeaways I think so from so
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: far from this series. Just like, all right, everyone relax,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: it's still in there. I think he's gonna turn it
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: on soon.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Uh, my confidence level in Riley is about his highs as.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Anybody on the team.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: So but it is nice to see see, like, you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: hopefully the group gets going there and maybe a two
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: home run outing is is just with the doctor ordered.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: All right, quick, quick, little PSA.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Cody and I will be doing a podcast after the
• 43:38
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• 43:43
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• 43:45
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• 43:57
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• 44:00
  Speaker 1: so for Austin Jackson, Cody Stavenhagen, I'm Kieren Steckley.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Everybody, have a great day.
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