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Navigating the Church Ages Part 4: Insights from TS Wright and Pastor Bob Robert Thibodeau · GOD CENTERED CONCEPT

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  two
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  wright
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  part
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  one
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  of
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  this
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  portion
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  of
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  the
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  interview,
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  you
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  need
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  to
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  go
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  back
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  catch
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  up
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  because
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  we
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  covered
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  some
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  things
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  that
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  are
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  just
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  so
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  interesting
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  and
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  I
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  just
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  don't
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  time
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  go
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  them
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  all
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  again.
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  But
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  today,
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  as
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  we
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  finished
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  up
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  yesterday,
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  we
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  are
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  talking
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  about
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  historical
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  examples
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  where
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  God
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  intervenes.
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  And
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  it's
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  like
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  I
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  said
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  yesterday
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  at
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  the
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  conclusion
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  of
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  the
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  interview,
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  anytime
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  you
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  combine
• 2:49
  history
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  and
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  the
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  Word
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  of
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  God,
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  I
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  am
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  all
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  in
• 2:52
  because
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  I
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  just
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  love
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  history.
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  I
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  love
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  the
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  Word
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  of
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  God,
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  and
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  when
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  I'm
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  getting
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  a
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  chance
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  to
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  study
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  both
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  together,
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  it's
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  just
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  awesome.
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  Anyway,
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  let's
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  jump
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  back
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  into
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  the
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  conclusion
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  of
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  this
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  interview
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  now
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  with
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  TS
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  Righty.
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  He's
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  given
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  us
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  some
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  examples
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  in
• 3:06
  history
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  where
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  God
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  intervened
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  and
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  despite
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  the
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  odds,
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  God
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  won.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  can
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  give
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  you
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  another
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  historical
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  one
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  is
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  is
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  during
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  the
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  Civil
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  War
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  there's
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  really
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  two
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  instances
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  and
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  I've
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  got
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  several
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  just
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  during
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  the
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  Civil
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  War
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  itself,
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  but
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  two
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  big
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  ones.
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  Number
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  one
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  is
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  that
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  the
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  Union
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  army
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  had
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  pressed
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  the
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  Confederacy
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  in
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  the
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  Overland
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  Campaign,
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  but
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  they
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  needed
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  to
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  put
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  Richmond
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  into
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  a
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  trap.
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  Well,
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  General
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  Grant
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  takes
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  Largest
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  forces
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  up
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  to
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  that
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  time
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  in
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  history
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  of
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  the
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  world.
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  And
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  crosses
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  the
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  James
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  river
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  on
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  pontoon
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  boats
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  and
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  generally
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  misses
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  this.
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  I
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  mean,
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  he
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  could
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  have
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  killed
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  a
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  lot
• 3:55
  of
• 3:55
  their
• 3:56
  soldiers
• 3:56
  out
• 3:56
  in
• 3:56
  the
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  middle
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  of
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  river
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  crossing
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  these
• 3:59
  pontoon
• 3:59
  bridges.
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  And
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  they
• 4:01
  have
• 4:01
  no
• 4:02
  idea
• 4:02
  it
• 4:02
  happened
• 4:02
  until
• 4:03
  after
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  it
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  was
• 4:03
  done.
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  Yeah.
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  Amen.
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  So
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  that's
• 4:06
  one
• 4:08
  another.
• 4:09
  Is
• 4:09
  that
• 4:11
  to
• 4:12
  give
• 4:12
  you
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  understanding
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  sin
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  slavery
• 4:15
  on
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  country?
• 4:18
  Abraham
• 4:19
  Lincoln
• 4:20
  is
• 4:20
  going
• 4:20
  to
• 4:21
  issue
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  Emancipation
• 4:22
  Proclamation.
• 4:24
  And
• 4:24
  it's
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  way
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  get
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  south
• 4:25
  back
• 4:26
  into
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  Union
• 4:27
  if
• 4:27
  they.
• 4:28
  And
• 4:28
  basically
• 4:28
  they
• 4:29
  have
• 4:29
  till
• 4:29
  January
• 4:29
  1,
• 4:30
  1863
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  get
• 4:31
  back
• 4:31
  in.
• 4:31
  But
• 4:32
  he
• 4:32
  can't
• 4:32
  issue
• 4:32
  it
• 4:33
  without
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  victory.
• 4:34
  Yep.
• 4:35
  On
• 4:35
  September
• 4:36
  17,
• 4:38
  1862,
• 4:40
  exactly
• 4:40
  85
• 4:41
  years
• 4:41
  to
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  day
• 4:42
  when
• 4:42
  the
• 4:43
  US
• 4:43
  Constitution
• 4:43
  was
• 4:44
  signed,
• 4:45
  which
• 4:45
  allowed
• 4:45
  slavery
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  continue
• 4:46
  to
• 4:47
  exist
• 4:48
  as
• 4:48
  well
• 4:48
  as
• 4:50
  formulating
• 4:50
  the
• 4:51
  three
• 4:51
  fist
• 4:51
  compromise
• 4:53
  and
• 4:53
  putting
• 4:53
  that
• 4:54
  into
• 4:54
  law.
• 4:54
  At
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  time
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  battle
• 4:56
  of
• 4:57
  Antietam
• 4:57
  right
• 4:58
  there
• 4:58
  in
• 4:58
  your
• 4:58
  neck
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  woods
• 4:59
  happened.
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  And
• 5:01
  it
• 5:01
  will
• 5:01
  be
• 5:01
  the
• 5:02
  bloodiest,
• 5:02
  not
• 5:03
  even
• 5:03
  day,
• 5:03
  half
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  day
• 5:05
  in
• 5:05
  American
• 5:05
  history
• 5:06
  because
• 5:07
  in
• 5:07
  less
• 5:07
  than
• 5:07
  12
• 5:08
  hours
• 5:08
  we
• 5:09
  will
• 5:09
  have
• 5:09
  more
• 5:09
  casualties
• 5:11
  than
• 5:11
  in
• 5:11
  any
• 5:12
  other
• 5:12
  battle
• 5:13
  in
• 5:13
  one
• 5:13
  and
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  half
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  day
• 5:15
  ever
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  United
• 5:16
  states
• 5:16
  history.
• 5:17
  Yeah.
• 5:17
  26,000
• 5:19
  plus.
• 5:19
  And
• 5:20
  they
• 5:20
  said
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  numbers
• 5:20
  may
• 5:20
  actually
• 5:21
  be
• 5:21
  higher.
• 5:22
  Yeah.
• 5:22
  And
• 5:23
  it's
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  battle
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  pushes
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  Confederate
• 5:26
  forces
• 5:27
  back
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  south
• 5:29
  and
• 5:29
  allows
• 5:29
  him
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  issue
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  Emancipation
• 5:31
  Proclamation.
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  find
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  ironic
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  the
• 5:34
  bloodiest
• 5:34
  day
• 5:34
  in
• 5:34
  American
• 5:34
  history
• 5:35
  happens
• 5:35
  on
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  day
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  signing
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  Constitution
• 5:37
  85
• 5:38
  years
• 5:38
  later.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:39
  it
• 5:39
  also
• 5:40
  signifies
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  Emancipation
• 5:41
  Proclamation
• 5:42
  being
• 5:44
  released
• 5:45
  by
• 5:45
  Abraham
• 5:45
  Lincoln
• 5:46
  that
• 5:46
  will
• 5:47
  eventually
• 5:47
  lead
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  the
• 5:48
  13th,
• 5:49
  14th
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  15th
• 5:50
  Amendments.
• 5:51
  Yeah.
• 5:51
  And
• 5:51
  what's.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:52
  what
• 5:52
  we're
• 5:53
  talking
• 5:53
  about,
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  know,
• 5:55
  was
• 5:56
  God's
• 5:56
  timing.
• 5:57
  Exactly.
• 5:58
  And
• 5:58
  it's
• 5:59
  so
• 5:59
  true.
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  mean,
• 6:00
  and
• 6:01
  even
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  Union
• 6:02
  forces
• 6:02
  can't
• 6:03
  get
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  total
• 6:04
  handle
• 6:05
  on
• 6:05
  winning
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  war
• 6:06
  until
• 6:06
  on
• 6:07
  January
• 6:07
  31,
• 6:08
  1865,
• 6:09
  they
• 6:09
  passed
• 6:09
  the
• 6:10
  13th
• 6:10
  amendment.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  it
• 6:11
  took
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  lot
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  wrangling
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  get
• 6:12
  that
• 6:13
  done.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:13
  they
• 6:13
  barely
• 6:13
  got
• 6:13
  it
• 6:14
  done
• 6:14
  from
• 6:15
  that
• 6:15
  point
• 6:15
  forward.
• 6:15
  The
• 6:15
  Confederacy
• 6:16
  just
• 6:16
  completely
• 6:17
  disintegrated.
• 6:18
  Yeah.
• 6:18
  Amen.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:19
  they
• 6:20
  were
• 6:20
  still
• 6:20
  holding
• 6:20
  on.
• 6:21
  And
• 6:22
  when
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  happens,
• 6:23
  that
• 6:23
  was
• 6:23
  it.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  it's
• 6:25
  kind
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  finally
• 6:25
  God
• 6:26
  said,
• 6:26
  okay,
• 6:27
  now
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  can
• 6:27
  have
• 6:27
  it.
• 6:28
  Now
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  can
• 6:28
  have
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  victory
• 6:29
  because
• 6:29
  you
• 6:29
  finally
• 6:29
  did
• 6:29
  what
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  wanted
• 6:30
  you
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  do
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  long
• 6:31
  time
• 6:31
  ago.
• 6:32
  Yeah.
• 6:33
  Amen.
• 6:33
  You
• 6:34
  know,
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  remember,
• 6:36
  Lincoln
• 6:37
  had
• 6:37
  already
• 6:37
  survived
• 6:38
  an
• 6:38
  assassination
• 6:39
  attempt
• 6:40
  and
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  bullet
• 6:41
  went
• 6:41
  through
• 6:41
  his
• 6:42
  hat.
• 6:43
  Exactly.
• 6:44
  Wasn't
• 6:45
  time.
• 6:45
  Yeah.
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  mean,
• 6:46
  it
• 6:47
  is.
• 6:47
  You
• 6:47
  know,
• 6:47
  these
• 6:47
  are
• 6:48
  snipers.
• 6:48
  Okay.
• 6:51
  And.
• 6:52
  And
• 6:52
  here's
• 6:52
  what
• 6:53
  interesting
• 6:53
  will
• 6:53
  Happen
• 6:54
  we
• 6:54
  go
• 6:54
  back
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  Third
• 6:54
  age
• 6:55
  of
• 6:55
  the
• 6:55
  Church.
• 6:56
  That
• 6:56
  temple
• 6:56
  will
• 6:57
  not
• 6:57
  be
• 6:57
  rebuilt.
• 6:58
  Nope.
• 6:59
  It
• 6:59
  is
• 6:59
  stopped.
• 7:02
  Yet.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:03
  in
• 7:03
  367,
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  Festal
• 7:06
  letter
• 7:06
  number
• 7:06
  39,
• 7:07
  Athanasius
• 7:08
  will
• 7:08
  list
• 7:08
  the
• 7:09
  27
• 7:10
  writings
• 7:11
  that
• 7:12
  he
• 7:12
  considers
• 7:12
  sacred.
• 7:14
  All
• 7:14
  right.
• 7:15
  And
• 7:15
  then
• 7:15
  in
• 7:16
  397,
• 7:18
  they
• 7:18
  will
• 7:18
  formally
• 7:19
  recognize
• 7:20
  that
• 7:20
  these
• 7:20
  27
• 7:20
  writings
• 7:21
  are
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  sacred
• 7:22
  writings
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  we
• 7:23
  now
• 7:23
  call
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  New
• 7:24
  Testament.
• 7:24
  Amen.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  temple
• 7:29
  is
• 7:29
  not
• 7:29
  allowed
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  be
• 7:29
  rebuilt.
• 7:31
  And
• 7:31
  right.
• 7:32
  Following
• 7:32
  after
• 7:32
  that,
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  New
• 7:34
  Testament
• 7:34
  becomes
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  thing.
• 7:36
  Yeah.
• 7:36
  We
• 7:37
  now
• 7:37
  understand
• 7:38
  what
• 7:38
  writings
• 7:39
  are
• 7:39
  sacred.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:39
  it's
• 7:40
  what
• 7:40
  we
• 7:40
  follow
• 7:40
  today.
• 7:41
  Yeah.
• 7:42
  That
• 7:42
  is
• 7:43
  powerful,
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  those
• 7:44
  two
• 7:45
  events
• 7:45
  are
• 7:45
  really
• 7:45
  close
• 7:46
  together.
• 7:46
  Oh,
• 7:47
  yeah.
• 7:47
  Think
• 7:48
  about
• 7:48
  what
• 7:48
  would
• 7:48
  happen
• 7:48
  if
• 7:49
  they'd.
• 7:49
  Have
• 7:49
  rebuilt
• 7:49
  the
• 7:50
  temple
• 7:50
  and
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  Jewish
• 7:51
  influence
• 7:51
  would
• 7:51
  have
• 7:51
  come
• 7:52
  back.
• 7:52
  Exactly.
• 7:53
  It
• 7:54
  wasn't
• 7:54
  time.
• 7:55
  The
• 7:55
  Jewish
• 7:55
  influence
• 7:56
  is
• 7:56
  going
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  come
• 7:56
  back.
• 7:57
  We
• 7:57
  know
• 7:58
  that.
• 7:58
  Yeah.
• 7:59
  It
• 7:59
  just
• 7:59
  wasn't
• 8:00
  time.
• 8:00
  It
• 8:01
  was
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  time
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  New
• 8:02
  Testament.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:04
  right
• 8:05
  in
• 8:05
  that,
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  mean,
• 8:05
  in
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  same
• 8:06
  decade,
• 8:07
  we
• 8:07
  get
• 8:08
  what's
• 8:08
  going
• 8:08
  to
• 8:09
  be
• 8:09
  considered
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  new
• 8:10
  writings
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  writings
• 8:11
  of
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  New
• 8:11
  Testament,
• 8:12
  those
• 8:12
  27
• 8:13
  sacred
• 8:13
  writings.
• 8:13
  And
• 8:14
  Athanasius
• 8:15
  is
• 8:15
  going
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  put
• 8:15
  those
• 8:16
  out
• 8:16
  there
• 8:16
  in
• 8:16
  that
• 8:16
  festival
• 8:17
  letter.
• 8:17
  That
• 8:17
  is
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  big
• 8:19
  deal.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:20
  so
• 8:21
  we
• 8:21
  get,
• 8:22
  actually
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  382,
• 8:24
  Pope
• 8:24
  Damascus,
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  first,
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  Council
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  Rome
• 8:27
  confirmed
• 8:27
  those
• 8:27
  27
• 8:28
  writings
• 8:28
  that
• 8:28
  make
• 8:28
  up
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  New
• 8:29
  Testament.
• 8:30
  The
• 8:30
  Council
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  Hippo
• 8:31
  canonized
• 8:32
  New
• 8:32
  Testament
• 8:32
  in
• 8:33
  393,
• 8:33
  and
• 8:34
  then
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  Council
• 8:34
  of
• 8:35
  North
• 8:35
  Africa
• 8:35
  canonized
• 8:36
  it
• 8:36
  in
• 8:37
  397.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:37
  that
• 8:38
  really
• 8:38
  formalized
• 8:38
  it
• 8:39
  in
• 8:40
  405.
• 8:40
  Pope
• 8:41
  Innocent
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  First
• 8:42
  will
• 8:42
  ratify
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  writings
• 8:43
  as
• 8:43
  well.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  now
• 8:45
  what
• 8:46
  happens
• 8:46
  is
• 8:46
  these,
• 8:47
  the
• 8:48
  powers
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  be
• 8:50
  that
• 8:50
  are
• 8:50
  going
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  control
• 8:51
  the
• 8:51
  theology,
• 8:52
  that
• 8:52
  are
• 8:52
  going
• 8:53
  to
• 8:53
  control
• 8:54
  Christianity
• 8:55
  is
• 8:55
  now
• 8:55
  has
• 8:56
  officially
• 8:56
  become
• 8:56
  these
• 8:56
  councils,
• 8:57
  and
• 8:58
  there's
• 8:58
  lots
• 8:58
  of
• 8:58
  them.
• 8:59
  You
• 8:59
  can
• 8:59
  go
• 8:59
  through
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  read
• 9:00
  about
• 9:01
  all
• 9:01
  these
• 9:01
  councils.
• 9:01
  There
• 9:01
  was
• 9:01
  councils
• 9:02
  before
• 9:02
  this,
• 9:04
  but
• 9:04
  you'll
• 9:04
  get
• 9:04
  a
• 9:04
  lot
• 9:05
  of
• 9:05
  that.
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  mean,
• 9:05
  we
• 9:05
  get,
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  know,
• 9:06
  we
• 9:06
  get
• 9:07
  things
• 9:07
  like
• 9:07
  the
• 9:08
  Apostles
• 9:08
  Creed,
• 9:08
  you
• 9:09
  know,
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  Nicene
• 9:10
  Creed,
• 9:10
  all
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  in
• 9:11
  a
• 9:11
  council.
• 9:11
  Nice
• 9:11
  scene.
• 9:12
  You
• 9:12
  had
• 9:12
  that
• 9:12
  back
• 9:12
  in.
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  think
• 9:13
  it
• 9:13
  was
• 9:13
  323.
• 9:14
  You
• 9:14
  can
• 9:14
  go
• 9:15
  back
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  look,
• 9:16
  but
• 9:16
  we'll
• 9:16
  see
• 9:16
  that.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:17
  what's
• 9:17
  interesting
• 9:17
  is
• 9:18
  in
• 9:18
  410,
• 9:18
  Rome
• 9:19
  will
• 9:19
  fall
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  Visigoths.
• 9:21
  The
• 9:21
  Roman
• 9:21
  Empire
• 9:22
  starts
• 9:22
  to
• 9:23
  die.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:23
  around
• 9:24
  most
• 9:24
  scholars,
• 9:25
  most
• 9:25
  scholars
• 9:26
  say
• 9:26
  between
• 9:27
  476
• 9:28
  and
• 9:28
  480,
• 9:28
  it
• 9:29
  had
• 9:29
  completely
• 9:29
  disintegrated.
• 9:31
  And
• 9:31
  then
• 9:32
  what
• 9:33
  will
• 9:33
  end
• 9:34
  this
• 9:34
  third
• 9:34
  age
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  Church?
• 9:36
  And
• 9:36
  there's
• 9:36
  going
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  be
• 9:37
  more
• 9:37
  political
• 9:37
  ring
• 9:38
  and
• 9:38
  more
• 9:38
  councils
• 9:39
  stuff.
• 9:39
  There's
• 9:39
  going
• 9:40
  to
• 9:40
  be
• 9:40
  more
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  these,
• 9:41
  not
• 9:42
  only
• 9:42
  popes,
• 9:43
  but
• 9:43
  these
• 9:44
  religious
• 9:45
  leaders
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  guess
• 9:46
  is
• 9:46
  the
• 9:46
  way
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  think
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  it.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  they're
• 9:49
  structuring
• 9:49
  that
• 9:50
  theology
• 9:50
  that
• 9:51
  will
• 9:51
  formalize
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  institution
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  Church.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:54
  then
• 9:55
  it
• 9:55
  needs
• 9:55
  one
• 9:56
  last
• 9:56
  thing
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  become
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  powerhouse.
• 9:58
  It
• 9:58
  needs.
• 9:59
  It
• 9:59
  needs
• 9:59
  a
• 10:00
  central
• 10:00
  base.
• 10:00
  It
• 10:00
  needs
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  central
• 10:01
  power
• 10:01
  and
• 10:02
  an
• 10:02
  army
• 10:02
  to
• 10:03
  help
• 10:03
  unify
• 10:03
  it.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:04
  they
• 10:04
  get
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  in
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  Byzantines.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:05
  the
• 10:06
  Byzantines
• 10:07
  take.
• 10:07
  They
• 10:07
  start
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  siege
• 10:08
  of
• 10:08
  Rome
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  they
• 10:10
  retake
• 10:11
  Rome.
• 10:11
  They
• 10:11
  take
• 10:11
  Rome
• 10:12
  in
• 10:12
  538.
• 10:13
  The
• 10:13
  siege
• 10:14
  starts
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  537.
• 10:15
  About
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  year
• 10:15
  later
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  538.
• 10:17
  Matter
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  fact,
• 10:18
  it's
• 10:18
  March
• 10:18
  537.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  then
• 10:19
  in
• 10:19
  March
• 10:20
  538
• 10:20
  they
• 10:20
  take
• 10:21
  it.
• 10:21
  The
• 10:21
  Byzantine
• 10:23
  forces
• 10:24
  their
• 10:24
  army,
• 10:26
  they
• 10:26
  force
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  vidigies
• 10:28
  to.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:29
  I
• 10:30
  apologize
• 10:31
  if
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  butcher
• 10:32
  these
• 10:32
  names,
• 10:33
  some
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  these
• 10:33
  names,
• 10:34
  but
• 10:34
  they
• 10:34
  basically
• 10:35
  attempting
• 10:36
  it.
• 10:36
  Exactly.
• 10:37
  The
• 10:37
  visit.
• 10:37
  The
• 10:37
  Byzantines
• 10:38
  take
• 10:38
  Rome.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:39
  now
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  have
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  power
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  Holy
• 10:42
  Roman
• 10:43
  Church
• 10:43
  because
• 10:43
  they're
• 10:43
  right
• 10:44
  there
• 10:44
  with
• 10:44
  them.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:45
  now
• 10:45
  they're
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  center
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  Rome.
• 10:46
  I
• 10:47
  mean
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  Vatican
• 10:48
  City
• 10:48
  is
• 10:48
  still
• 10:48
  there
• 10:48
  today.
• 10:49
  Yeah,
• 10:49
  yeah.
• 10:50
  Okay.
• 10:50
  So
• 10:50
  that's
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  power
• 10:51
  of
• 10:51
  it.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  this
• 10:51
  happens
• 10:52
  in
• 10:52
  538.
• 10:53
  So
• 10:54
  this
• 10:55
  now
• 10:55
  marks
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  start
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  rule
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  Roman
• 10:57
  Church.
• 10:58
  And
• 10:58
  that
• 10:59
  is
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  event
• 11:00
  that
• 11:00
  kicks
• 11:01
  off
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  next
• 11:02
  stage
• 11:03
  of
• 11:03
  the
• 11:03
  Church.
• 11:03
  So
• 11:04
  think
• 11:04
  about
• 11:04
  it.
• 11:04
  337
• 11:06
  the
• 11:07
  baptism
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  Constantine
• 11:09
  and
• 11:09
  then
• 11:10
  he
• 11:10
  dies.
• 11:11
  We
• 11:11
  now
• 11:11
  have
• 11:12
  a
• 11:12
  Roman
• 11:12
  Emperor
• 11:12
  that's
• 11:13
  been
• 11:13
  baptized
• 11:13
  in
• 11:13
  Christianity.
• 11:14
  That
• 11:14
  is
• 11:14
  the,
• 11:14
  that
• 11:15
  is
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  final
• 11:15
  trigger
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  flip
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  Church
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  go.
• 11:18
  Over
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  importance
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  that.
• 11:19
  Because
• 11:19
  they
• 11:20
  consider
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  Roman
• 11:20
  Emperor
• 11:21
  God.
• 11:22
  Exactly.
• 11:23
  And
• 11:23
  what
• 11:24
  he's
• 11:24
  doing,
• 11:24
  it's
• 11:25
  just
• 11:25
  like
• 11:25
  committed
• 11:26
  himself.
• 11:26
  It's
• 11:26
  almost
• 11:27
  like
• 11:27
  what
• 11:27
  Pharaoh
• 11:28
  would
• 11:28
  not
• 11:28
  do,
• 11:29
  which
• 11:29
  is
• 11:29
  why
• 11:29
  God
• 11:30
  punished
• 11:30
  him.
• 11:30
  He
• 11:31
  would
• 11:31
  not
• 11:31
  admit
• 11:32
  that
• 11:32
  God
• 11:32
  was
• 11:33
  God.
• 11:34
  And
• 11:34
  he,
• 11:35
  he
• 11:35
  made
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  Egyptians
• 11:36
  believe
• 11:36
  he
• 11:36
  was
• 11:36
  God.
• 11:37
  But
• 11:37
  a
• 11:38
  guy
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  dies,
• 11:38
  I
• 11:39
  mean,
• 11:39
  come
• 11:39
  on.
• 11:39
  Yeah.
• 11:40
  But
• 11:40
  he
• 11:40
  didn't
• 11:40
  just
• 11:41
  acknowledge
• 11:41
  that
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  Jewish
• 11:42
  God
• 11:43
  was
• 11:44
  God.
• 11:45
  He
• 11:45
  acknowledged
• 11:46
  Jesus
• 11:47
  Christ,
• 11:48
  who
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  Jews
• 11:49
  killed
• 11:50
  was
• 11:51
  God.
• 11:51
  Exactly.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  now
• 11:54
  Constantine
• 11:55
  is
• 11:55
  surrendering
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  that.
• 11:57
  Yeah.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:58
  that
• 11:58
  is
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  key
• 12:00
  moment.
• 12:01
  That
• 12:02
  is
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  trigger.
• 12:02
  It
• 12:03
  starts
• 12:03
  with
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  Edict
• 12:03
  of
• 12:04
  Milan.
• 12:04
  And
• 12:04
  there's
• 12:04
  like
• 12:04
  a
• 12:05
  20
• 12:05
  year
• 12:05
  period
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  that
• 12:07
  last
• 12:08
  hanging
• 12:08
  on
• 12:08
  of
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  second
• 12:09
  age
• 12:09
  of
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  Church.
• 12:09
  And
• 12:09
  then
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  trigger
• 12:10
  event
• 12:10
  is
• 12:10
  him.
• 12:11
  That
• 12:11
  happens
• 12:12
  right
• 12:12
  around
• 12:12
  three.
• 12:12
  That's
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  337.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:14
  then
• 12:15
  this
• 12:15
  whole
• 12:15
  thing
• 12:15
  in
• 12:16
  537
• 12:16
  when
• 12:17
  they
• 12:17
  see
• 12:17
  Jerome,
• 12:18
  that
• 12:19
  is
• 12:19
  the
• 12:19
  flipping
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  fourth
• 12:20
  age
• 12:20
  of
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  Church.
• 12:21
  Because
• 12:22
  now
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  Holy
• 12:22
  Roman
• 12:23
  Church
• 12:24
  will
• 12:24
  become
• 12:25
  the,
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  Church.
• 12:26
  It'll
• 12:27
  become
• 12:27
  an
• 12:27
  empire
• 12:27
  in
• 12:28
  itself.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:30
  by
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  way,
• 12:30
  this
• 12:30
  is
• 12:30
  going
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  last
• 12:31
  a
• 12:32
  thousand
• 12:32
  years.
• 12:35
  What's
• 12:36
  funny
• 12:36
  is
• 12:36
  when
• 12:36
  we.
• 12:36
  There's
• 12:37
  going
• 12:37
  to
• 12:37
  be,
• 12:38
  there's
• 12:38
  going
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  be
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  couple
• 12:39
  of
• 12:39
  tr.
• 12:39
  There's
• 12:39
  going
• 12:39
  to
• 12:40
  really
• 12:40
  be
• 12:40
  two
• 12:40
  or
• 12:40
  three
• 12:40
  trigger
• 12:41
  events
• 12:41
  when
• 12:41
  we
• 12:41
  talk
• 12:42
  on
• 12:42
  our
• 12:42
  next
• 12:42
  episode
• 12:43
  in
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  fourth
• 12:44
  edge
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  church.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  guys
• 12:46
  are
• 12:46
  going
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  love
• 12:46
  this
• 12:47
  because
• 12:47
  this
• 12:48
  fourth
• 12:48
  edge
• 12:48
  of
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  church
• 12:48
  is
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  most
• 12:49
  fun,
• 12:49
  is
• 12:49
  one
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  most
• 12:50
  fun
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  talk
• 12:50
  about,
• 12:50
  to
• 12:51
  be
• 12:51
  honest
• 12:51
  with
• 12:51
  you.
• 12:52
  This
• 12:52
  fourth
• 12:53
  age,
• 12:53
  there's
• 12:54
  going
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  be
• 12:54
  a
• 12:54
  couple
• 12:54
  of
• 12:55
  trigger
• 12:55
  events
• 12:56
  that
• 12:57
  really
• 12:58
  ignite
• 12:59
  and,
• 12:59
  and
• 13:00
  kind
• 13:00
  of,
• 13:01
  kind
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  cools
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  power
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  that
• 13:04
  church.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:05
  as
• 13:05
  it
• 13:06
  cools
• 13:06
  it,
• 13:07
  it's
• 13:07
  going
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  lead
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  some
• 13:08
  other
• 13:08
  events
• 13:08
  that'll
• 13:09
  eventually
• 13:09
  flip
• 13:09
  it
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  the
• 13:10
  fifth
• 13:10
  age
• 13:10
  of
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  church
• 13:11
  and,
• 13:11
  and
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  Holy
• 13:12
  Roman
• 13:13
  Church
• 13:13
  will
• 13:13
  become
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  dead
• 13:14
  church
• 13:14
  as
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  result.
• 13:15
  Yeah,
• 13:15
  yeah,
• 13:16
  they
• 13:16
  really
• 13:16
  will.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  even
• 13:18
  the
• 13:19
  Protestant
• 13:19
  churches
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  will
• 13:20
  come
• 13:20
  out
• 13:20
  of
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  at
• 13:20
  first
• 13:21
  are
• 13:21
  kind
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  dead
• 13:21
  churches
• 13:22
  as
• 13:22
  well.
• 13:22
  That's
• 13:23
  why
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  fifth
• 13:23
  age
• 13:23
  of
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  church
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  called
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  dead
• 13:25
  age
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  church,
• 13:26
  because
• 13:26
  it
• 13:27
  really
• 13:27
  kind
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  was,
• 13:27
  it
• 13:28
  was,
• 13:28
  it
• 13:29
  was
• 13:29
  more
• 13:29
  of
• 13:29
  about
• 13:29
  a
• 13:30
  restructuring
• 13:31
  than
• 13:32
  it
• 13:32
  was
• 13:32
  about
• 13:32
  a
• 13:33
  movement.
• 13:34
  It
• 13:34
  was
• 13:34
  just
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  restructuring
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  institution
• 13:36
  of
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  church
• 13:37
  that
• 13:37
  had
• 13:37
  really
• 13:38
  become
• 13:38
  corrupt,
• 13:39
  extremely
• 13:41
  corrupt.
• 13:42
  And
• 13:42
  so
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  fourth
• 13:43
  age
• 13:43
  is
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  church,
• 13:44
  Some
• 13:44
  people
• 13:44
  call
• 13:45
  it
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  tyrannical
• 13:46
  church
• 13:46
  because
• 13:47
  in
• 13:47
  some
• 13:47
  ways
• 13:47
  it
• 13:47
  is.
• 13:47
  I
• 13:48
  mean,
• 13:48
  we're
• 13:48
  going
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  get
• 13:48
  things
• 13:48
  like
• 13:48
  the
• 13:49
  Crusades
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  all
• 13:49
  this
• 13:50
  stuff.
• 13:50
  It's
• 13:50
  not
• 13:51
  pretty.
• 13:51
  It's
• 13:51
  not
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  pretty
• 13:52
  picture.
• 13:53
  Yeah.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:54
  there
• 13:54
  are
• 13:54
  some
• 13:54
  really
• 13:54
  good
• 13:55
  things
• 13:55
  that
• 13:55
  come
• 13:55
  out
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  this
• 13:56
  age
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  church,
• 13:57
  but
• 13:57
  there's
• 13:57
  some
• 13:57
  really
• 13:58
  bad
• 13:58
  things
• 13:58
  too.
• 13:59
  And
• 13:59
  we
• 14:00
  know
• 14:00
  that.
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  mean,
• 14:00
  you
• 14:00
  know,
• 14:00
  hey,
• 14:01
  I'm
• 14:01
  not.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:01
  even
• 14:02
  Jesus,
• 14:02
  you
• 14:03
  know,
• 14:03
  people
• 14:03
  can
• 14:04
  sit
• 14:04
  here
• 14:04
  and
• 14:04
  say,
• 14:04
  well,
• 14:05
  well,
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  makes
• 14:06
  Christianity
• 14:06
  bad
• 14:06
  and
• 14:06
  all
• 14:07
  this.
• 14:07
  I'm
• 14:07
  going
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  make
• 14:07
  an
• 14:07
  argument
• 14:08
  against
• 14:08
  that.
• 14:09
  Jesus
• 14:09
  himself,
• 14:10
  if
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  read
• 14:10
  the
• 14:11
  books
• 14:11
  of
• 14:11
  Revelation,
• 14:12
  chapters
• 14:12
  2
• 14:12
  and
• 14:12
  3,
• 14:13
  he
• 14:13
  admonishes
• 14:14
  five
• 14:14
  ages
• 14:15
  of
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  church.
• 14:17
  Admonishes
• 14:18
  them.
• 14:19
  He
• 14:19
  does
• 14:19
  not.
• 14:20
  He
• 14:20
  doesn't
• 14:20
  praise
• 14:21
  them.
• 14:21
  Right.
• 14:22
  He
• 14:22
  praises
• 14:22
  certain
• 14:23
  people
• 14:23
  that
• 14:23
  do
• 14:24
  certain
• 14:24
  things
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  those
• 14:25
  ages.
• 14:26
  But
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  basic
• 14:27
  age
• 14:27
  of
• 14:28
  those
• 14:28
  churches
• 14:28
  are
• 14:28
  not
• 14:29
  pretty.
• 14:29
  Yeah.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:30
  the
• 14:31
  reason
• 14:31
  is
• 14:31
  it's
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  same
• 14:32
  thing
• 14:33
  with
• 14:33
  every
• 14:33
  other
• 14:33
  man
• 14:34
  made
• 14:34
  religion
• 14:35
  out
• 14:35
  there
• 14:35
  that's
• 14:35
  not
• 14:36
  even
• 14:36
  attached
• 14:36
  to
• 14:36
  Christianity.
• 14:37
  Anytime
• 14:38
  it
• 14:38
  becomes
• 14:39
  man
• 14:39
  made,
• 14:40
  it
• 14:41
  becomes
• 14:41
  about
• 14:41
  man
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  it
• 14:42
  becomes
• 14:43
  idolatry.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:44
  when
• 14:44
  it
• 14:44
  becomes
• 14:45
  that,
• 14:46
  it
• 14:46
  becomes
• 14:47
  not
• 14:47
  of
• 14:48
  God
• 14:48
  and
• 14:48
  it,
• 14:49
  and
• 14:49
  it
• 14:49
  ends
• 14:49
  up
• 14:49
  ensuing
• 14:50
  in
• 14:50
  chaos,
• 14:51
  violence,
• 14:52
  just
• 14:52
  like
• 14:52
  in
• 14:52
  the
• 14:53
  days
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  Noah.
• 14:54
  Amen.
• 14:54
  Yeah.
• 14:55
  That
• 14:55
  is
• 14:55
  so
• 14:55
  True.
• 14:56
  Amen.
• 14:56
  Amen.
• 14:57
  Praise
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  Lord.
• 14:59
  We
• 14:59
  are
• 14:59
  never
• 14:59
  to
• 15:00
  worship
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  church.
• 15:02
  We
• 15:02
  are
• 15:02
  only
• 15:02
  to
• 15:02
  worship
• 15:03
  God.
• 15:03
  Yeah,
• 15:04
  period.
• 15:05
  There
• 15:05
  is
• 15:06
  nothing
• 15:06
  else.
• 15:07
  There
• 15:07
  is
• 15:08
  no
• 15:08
  one
• 15:08
  else.
• 15:09
  Jesus
• 15:09
  Christ
• 15:09
  is
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  body
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  Christ.
• 15:11
  Exactly.
• 15:12
  Church,
• 15:12
  you
• 15:12
  know,
• 15:12
  the
• 15:13
  body.
• 15:13
  Yeah.
• 15:14
  And
• 15:14
  there's.
• 15:15
  The
• 15:15
  body
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  made
• 15:15
  up
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  different
• 15:16
  members.
• 15:16
  You
• 15:17
  know,
• 15:17
  you
• 15:17
  can't
• 15:17
  have
• 15:19
  one
• 15:19
  denomination.
• 15:20
  We'll
• 15:21
  call
• 15:21
  it,
• 15:22
  say
• 15:22
  we
• 15:22
  are
• 15:23
  the
• 15:24
  Church.
• 15:24
  No,
• 15:24
  you're
• 15:25
  not.
• 15:25
  I
• 15:26
  know.
• 15:26
  No,
• 15:27
  those
• 15:27
  have
• 15:27
  received
• 15:27
  Christ.
• 15:28
  That's
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  church.
• 15:29
  Yeah,
• 15:29
  period.
• 15:30
  There's.
• 15:30
  I
• 15:31
  mean,
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  don't
• 15:31
  care
• 15:31
  what
• 15:32
  denomination
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  are.
• 15:33
  None
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  that
• 15:33
  matters.
• 15:34
  I
• 15:34
  mean,
• 15:34
  at
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  end
• 15:34
  of
• 15:35
  the
• 15:35
  day,
• 15:35
  there's
• 15:35
  not
• 15:35
  going
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  be
• 15:36
  denominational
• 15:36
  signs
• 15:37
  in
• 15:37
  heaven.
• 15:37
  Nope.
• 15:38
  All
• 15:38
  right,
• 15:38
  well,
• 15:39
  this
• 15:39
  group
• 15:39
  over
• 15:40
  here
• 15:40
  and
• 15:40
  this.
• 15:41
  That's
• 15:41
  not
• 15:41
  going
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  happen.
• 15:42
  I
• 15:42
  mean,
• 15:44
  every
• 15:44
  judge
• 15:44
  individually,
• 15:46
  if
• 15:46
  there.
• 15:46
  Is,
• 15:46
  it'll
• 15:47
  be
• 15:47
  one
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  those,
• 15:47
  like,
• 15:48
  okay,
• 15:48
  all
• 15:48
  you
• 15:49
  believers
• 15:49
  this
• 15:49
  way.
• 15:50
  The
• 15:50
  rest
• 15:50
  of
• 15:51
  you
• 15:51
  go
• 15:51
  that
• 15:51
  way.
• 15:52
  Yeah,
• 15:54
  exactly.
• 15:54
  I
• 15:55
  mean,
• 15:55
  that's
• 15:55
  not.
• 15:56
  Yeah,
• 15:56
  it's
• 15:56
  not
• 15:56
  going
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  be
• 15:58
  this
• 15:59
  denominational
• 16:00
  thing
• 16:00
  or
• 16:01
  this
• 16:01
  group
• 16:02
  thing,
• 16:02
  all
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  stuff.
• 16:03
  No,
• 16:04
  there's
• 16:04
  only.
• 16:04
  There's
• 16:05
  only
• 16:05
  two
• 16:06
  groups,
• 16:07
  believers
• 16:07
  and
• 16:08
  non
• 16:08
  believers.
• 16:08
  There's
• 16:09
  those
• 16:09
  that
• 16:09
  are
• 16:09
  listed
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  book
• 16:10
  of
• 16:10
  life,
• 16:11
  and
• 16:11
  that's
• 16:12
  what
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  Bible
• 16:12
  says.
• 16:12
  And
• 16:13
  there's
• 16:13
  those
• 16:13
  that
• 16:14
  are
• 16:14
  not.
• 16:14
  Yeah,
• 16:15
  period.
• 16:15
  You
• 16:16
  know,
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  sometimes
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  get
• 16:17
  into
• 16:18
  little
• 16:18
  discussions,
• 16:19
  I'll
• 16:19
  call
• 16:19
  it,
• 16:20
  with
• 16:20
  some
• 16:20
  pastors,
• 16:21
  you
• 16:22
  know,
• 16:22
  like,
• 16:22
  hey,
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  know,
• 16:22
  we're
• 16:23
  promoting
• 16:23
  this
• 16:24
  event
• 16:24
  or
• 16:24
  whatever
• 16:24
  it
• 16:25
  is.
• 16:25
  Well,
• 16:25
  where's
• 16:26
  it
• 16:26
  going
• 16:26
  to
• 16:26
  be
• 16:26
  held
• 16:26
  at?
• 16:26
  But
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  don't.
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  don't.
• 16:27
  I
• 16:28
  don't
• 16:28
  go
• 16:28
  to
• 16:28
  that
• 16:28
  church.
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  don't.
• 16:29
  I
• 16:29
  don't
• 16:29
  believe
• 16:30
  in
• 16:30
  what
• 16:30
  they
• 16:30
  believe
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  and
• 16:31
  stuff.
• 16:31
  Said,
• 16:32
  are
• 16:32
  you
• 16:32
  a
• 16:32
  Christian?
• 16:33
  Well,
• 16:33
  of
• 16:33
  course.
• 16:33
  Well,
• 16:33
  so
• 16:34
  are
• 16:34
  they.
• 16:34
  Yeah,
• 16:35
  but
• 16:35
  they
• 16:35
  got
• 16:35
  that,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:36
  know,
• 16:37
  look,
• 16:38
  one,
• 16:39
  as
• 16:39
  you
• 16:39
  said,
• 16:40
  there's
• 16:40
  no
• 16:40
  denominations
• 16:41
  in
• 16:41
  heaven.
• 16:42
  But
• 16:42
  two,
• 16:44
  we
• 16:44
  are
• 16:44
  a
• 16:45
  body
• 16:45
  made
• 16:46
  up
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  different
• 16:46
  parts,
• 16:48
  as
• 16:48
  Jesus
• 16:48
  said.
• 16:48
  You
• 16:48
  know,
• 16:50
  if
• 16:50
  you're
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  nose,
• 16:51
  then,
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  know,
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  way
• 16:53
  I
• 16:53
  put
• 16:54
  it
• 16:54
  in
• 16:54
  modern
• 16:55
  vernacular
• 16:56
  is
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  church
• 16:58
  is
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  body.
• 16:59
  Well,
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  church,
• 17:01
  if
• 17:01
  you're
• 17:01
  building
• 17:01
  the
• 17:02
  church,
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  got
• 17:03
  the
• 17:04
  people
• 17:04
  that
• 17:04
  come
• 17:04
  out
• 17:04
  and
• 17:04
  prepare
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  ground
• 17:06
  for
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  foundation,
• 17:06
  the
• 17:07
  excavators
• 17:07
  and
• 17:08
  all
• 17:08
  that.
• 17:08
  You
• 17:09
  don't
• 17:09
  want
• 17:09
  them
• 17:09
  doing
• 17:09
  the
• 17:10
  electrical
• 17:10
  wiring.
• 17:11
  No,
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  want
• 17:11
  them.
• 17:12
  They're
• 17:12
  not
• 17:12
  electricians.
• 17:12
  Specialists
• 17:13
  in.
• 17:13
  Is
• 17:13
  prepare
• 17:14
  that
• 17:14
  foundation.
• 17:15
  Right,
• 17:15
  exactly.
• 17:16
  Then
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  got
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  framers.
• 17:17
  You
• 17:17
  don't
• 17:18
  want
• 17:18
  them
• 17:18
  doing
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  plumbing.
• 17:19
  You
• 17:19
  want
• 17:19
  them
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  frame
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  building.
• 17:20
  Right.
• 17:21
  Then
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  got
• 17:21
  the
• 17:22
  plumbers.
• 17:22
  You
• 17:22
  don't
• 17:22
  want
• 17:23
  them
• 17:23
  doing
• 17:23
  electrical
• 17:24
  wiring.
• 17:24
  You
• 17:24
  don't
• 17:24
  want
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  electrical
• 17:25
  wiring
• 17:25
  doing
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  plumbing.
• 17:26
  Right.
• 17:26
  And
• 17:27
  Then
• 17:27
  you
• 17:27
  got
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  roofers.
• 17:28
  You
• 17:29
  don't
• 17:29
  want
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  roofers
• 17:30
  doing
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  drywall,
• 17:31
  you
• 17:32
  know,
• 17:32
  so
• 17:33
  it
• 17:33
  takes
• 17:33
  all
• 17:34
  these
• 17:34
  different
• 17:34
  groups
• 17:35
  to
• 17:35
  make
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  church.
• 17:37
  And
• 17:38
  when,
• 17:39
  you
• 17:39
  know,
• 17:39
  I
• 17:40
  had
• 17:40
  our
• 17:40
  church
• 17:40
  and
• 17:40
  all,
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  told
• 17:41
  him
• 17:42
  something
• 17:42
  in
• 17:43
  our
• 17:43
  church
• 17:43
  isn't
• 17:43
  sitting
• 17:43
  right
• 17:44
  with
• 17:44
  you.
• 17:44
  That's
• 17:44
  all
• 17:44
  right,
• 17:44
  come
• 17:45
  tell
• 17:45
  me.
• 17:46
  Because
• 17:46
  if
• 17:46
  you,
• 17:46
  you
• 17:47
  know,
• 17:47
  after
• 17:47
  talking
• 17:48
  with
• 17:48
  you,
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  know
• 17:48
  a
• 17:49
  lot
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  different
• 17:49
  pastors,
• 17:50
  a
• 17:50
  lot
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  different
• 17:50
  church,
• 17:50
  I
• 17:51
  can
• 17:51
  send
• 17:51
  you
• 17:51
  to
• 17:52
  one
• 17:52
  that,
• 17:52
  you
• 17:52
  know,
• 17:52
  you
• 17:53
  may
• 17:53
  be
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  plumber
• 17:54
  attending
• 17:55
  an
• 17:55
  electrician
• 17:56
  church.
• 17:56
  And
• 17:57
  they're
• 17:57
  talking
• 17:58
  in
• 17:58
  every
• 17:58
  service
• 17:59
  about
• 17:59
  electrical
• 18:00
  stuff.
• 18:00
  Oh,
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  amps
• 18:01
  and
• 18:02
  all
• 18:02
  this
• 18:02
  stuff.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  you're
• 18:03
  like,
• 18:03
  I
• 18:03
  have
• 18:03
  no
• 18:03
  clue
• 18:04
  what
• 18:04
  they're
• 18:04
  talking
• 18:04
  about.
• 18:04
  I
• 18:04
  know
• 18:04
  roofing
• 18:05
  nails
• 18:05
  and
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  know
• 18:06
  shingles,
• 18:06
  but
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  don't
• 18:07
  know
• 18:07
  what
• 18:07
  they're
• 18:07
  talking
• 18:08
  about
• 18:08
  here.
• 18:08
  Well,
• 18:09
  if
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  go
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  a
• 18:10
  Rovers
• 18:11
  church,
• 18:12
  it's
• 18:12
  kind
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  like,
• 18:12
  oh,
• 18:12
  man,
• 18:13
  this
• 18:13
  is
• 18:13
  like
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  best
• 18:13
  church
• 18:14
  ever.
• 18:14
  Because
• 18:14
  they're
• 18:15
  talking
• 18:15
  my
• 18:15
  language,
• 18:16
  right?
• 18:16
  Yep.
• 18:17
  And
• 18:17
  that's
• 18:17
  the
• 18:17
  whole
• 18:18
  thing.
• 18:18
  You
• 18:18
  have
• 18:18
  to
• 18:19
  find
• 18:19
  where
• 18:20
  you're
• 18:20
  supposed
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  go.
• 18:20
  You
• 18:21
  can't
• 18:21
  say
• 18:21
  one
• 18:21
  church
• 18:22
  is
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  answer.
• 18:23
  No.
• 18:24
  Everything.
• 18:24
  Because
• 18:24
  it's.
• 18:25
  No.
• 18:25
  No,
• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  is
• 18:27
  not.
• 18:27
  No.
• 18:28
  It's
• 18:28
  like
• 18:29
  there's
• 18:29
  not
• 18:29
  one
• 18:29
  pastor
• 18:30
  that's
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  answer
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  every
• 18:31
  theological
• 18:31
  question.
• 18:32
  Exactly.
• 18:33
  And
• 18:33
  I.
• 18:34
  I've
• 18:34
  had
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  tell
• 18:34
  people
• 18:34
  I've
• 18:35
  ministered
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  before.
• 18:36
  I'm
• 18:36
  not
• 18:36
  your
• 18:36
  dialogue.
• 18:38
  I'm
• 18:38
  teaching
• 18:38
  you
• 18:39
  how
• 18:39
  to
• 18:39
  dial
• 18:39
  into
• 18:39
  God.
• 18:40
  Amen.
• 18:41
  It's
• 18:41
  not
• 18:41
  my
• 18:41
  job
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  do
• 18:42
  that.
• 18:42
  I'm
• 18:43
  not
• 18:43
  saying
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  Lord
• 18:44
  hasn't
• 18:44
  put
• 18:44
  something
• 18:44
  on
• 18:45
  my
• 18:45
  heart
• 18:45
  for
• 18:45
  certain
• 18:46
  specific
• 18:46
  people
• 18:47
  at
• 18:47
  times,
• 18:47
  but
• 18:48
  he
• 18:48
  chooses
• 18:48
  when
• 18:48
  to
• 18:49
  reveal
• 18:49
  that.
• 18:49
  Yeah,
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  can't
• 18:50
  reveal
• 18:51
  that.
• 18:51
  That's
• 18:51
  not.
• 18:52
  I'm
• 18:52
  not
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  head.
• 18:53
  There's
• 18:53
  only
• 18:53
  one
• 18:53
  head.
• 18:54
  That's
• 18:54
  Jesus
• 18:55
  Christ.
• 18:55
  That's
• 18:55
  it.
• 18:56
  Through
• 18:56
  the
• 18:56
  power
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  the
• 18:56
  holy
• 18:56
  church.
• 18:57
  That's
• 18:57
  right.
• 18:58
  The
• 18:58
  church
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  not
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  head.
• 18:59
  It
• 19:00
  is.
• 19:00
  The
• 19:00
  church
• 19:00
  is
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  glorify
• 19:01
  God.
• 19:02
  It
• 19:03
  is
• 19:03
  the.
• 19:04
  It
• 19:04
  is
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  be
• 19:04
  the
• 19:05
  beacon
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  light
• 19:05
  for
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  glory
• 19:06
  of
• 19:07
  God.
• 19:08
  But
• 19:08
  we
• 19:08
  are
• 19:08
  not
• 19:08
  to
• 19:09
  be
• 19:09
  glorified.
• 19:09
  Amen.
• 19:10
  And
• 19:10
  we're
• 19:10
  not
• 19:10
  worthy
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  be
• 19:11
  glorified.
• 19:13
  I
• 19:13
  mean,
• 19:13
  we
• 19:13
  need
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  think
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  ourselves
• 19:14
  a
• 19:14
  little
• 19:14
  more
• 19:14
  sober
• 19:14
  judgment
• 19:15
  than
• 19:15
  that.
• 19:16
  Yep.
• 19:16
  That's.
• 19:17
  That's
• 19:17
  why
• 19:17
  I'm
• 19:17
  with
• 19:17
  you.
• 19:18
  That's.
• 19:18
  You
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  and
• 19:19
  if
• 19:19
  anyone
• 19:19
  has
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  question
• 19:20
  about
• 19:21
  that,
• 19:22
  go
• 19:22
  stand
• 19:23
  naked
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  front
• 19:23
  of
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  mirror.
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  guarantee
• 19:27
  you're
• 19:28
  not
• 19:28
  looking
• 19:28
  at
• 19:28
  a
• 19:29
  perfect
• 19:29
  body.
• 19:29
  Right?
• 19:30
  No,
• 19:31
  there's
• 19:31
  no.
• 19:32
  And.
• 19:32
  And
• 19:33
  even
• 19:33
  if
• 19:33
  you
• 19:33
  are,
• 19:33
  I
• 19:34
  promise
• 19:34
  you,
• 19:34
  in
• 19:34
  20
• 19:35
  years
• 19:35
  it
• 19:35
  ain't
• 19:35
  gonna
• 19:35
  look
• 19:35
  that
• 19:36
  way.
• 19:36
  Yeah.
• 19:36
  In
• 19:36
  30
• 19:37
  years.
• 19:37
  Eventually
• 19:37
  it's
• 19:37
  gonna
• 19:38
  get
• 19:38
  old
• 19:38
  and
• 19:38
  decrepit.
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  mean,
• 19:39
  that's
• 19:39
  just,
• 19:39
  that's
• 19:39
  it.
• 19:40
  Our
• 19:40
  flesh
• 19:40
  falls
• 19:41
  apart,
• 19:41
  period.
• 19:42
  Amen.
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  don't
• 19:43
  care
• 19:43
  who
• 19:43
  you
• 19:44
  are.
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  mean,
• 19:45
  that's
• 19:45
  been
• 19:45
  good.
• 19:46
  Tell
• 19:46
  us
• 19:46
  about
• 19:46
  your
• 19:46
  book,
• 19:47
  God
• 19:47
  Centered
• 19:47
  Concept
• 19:48
  Journal,
• 19:48
  Making
• 19:48
  God's
• 19:49
  Words
• 19:49
  My
• 19:50
  Ways.
• 19:50
  Just
• 19:51
  tell
• 19:51
  us
• 19:51
  about
• 19:51
  this
• 19:51
  book
• 19:51
  again.
• 19:52
  You
• 19:52
  bet.
• 19:52
  Well,
• 19:53
  it's
• 19:53
  basic.
• 19:53
  It's
• 19:54
  just
• 19:54
  a.
• 19:54
  It's
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  good
• 19:54
  basic
• 19:55
  journal
• 19:55
  to
• 19:55
  help
• 19:55
  you
• 19:56
  follow
• 19:56
  along.
• 19:56
  Not
• 19:57
  only
• 19:57
  my
• 19:57
  podcast
• 19:58
  series,
• 19:58
  but
• 19:59
  for
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  to
• 19:59
  dive
• 20:00
  in
• 20:00
  and
• 20:01
  to
• 20:01
  use
• 20:02
  that
• 20:02
  as
• 20:02
  a
• 20:03
  help
• 20:03
  to
• 20:03
  your
• 20:03
  prayer
• 20:03
  time.
• 20:04
  So
• 20:04
  we're.
• 20:05
  Right
• 20:06
  now
• 20:06
  we're
• 20:06
  in
• 20:06
  the
• 20:07
  midst
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  writing
• 20:08
  several
• 20:09
  different
• 20:09
  publications
• 20:11
  and
• 20:11
  those
• 20:11
  will
• 20:12
  be
• 20:12
  coming
• 20:12
  out.
• 20:12
  My
• 20:12
  goal
• 20:13
  is
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  have
• 20:14
  one
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  them
• 20:14
  come
• 20:15
  out
• 20:15
  at
• 20:15
  the
• 20:16
  end
• 20:16
  of
• 20:16
  this
• 20:16
  year.
• 20:16
  And
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:17
  actually
• 20:17
  going
• 20:17
  to
• 20:18
  be
• 20:18
  on
• 20:18
  the
• 20:18
  seven
• 20:19
  ages
• 20:19
  of
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  church.
• 20:19
  I've
• 20:20
  got
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  lot
• 20:20
  of
• 20:20
  material,
• 20:21
  just
• 20:21
  scattered
• 20:22
  stuff
• 20:22
  all
• 20:23
  over
• 20:23
  the
• 20:23
  place.
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  feel
• 20:23
  like
• 20:24
  a.
• 20:24
  I'm
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  researcher
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  sometimes
• 20:26
  I'm
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  little
• 20:27
  too
• 20:27
  honest
• 20:27
  about
• 20:27
  my
• 20:28
  process,
• 20:28
  but
• 20:29
  that's
• 20:29
  where
• 20:29
  I'm
• 20:29
  at.
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  mean,
• 20:30
  so
• 20:30
  we've
• 20:31
  got
• 20:31
  it
• 20:31
  all
• 20:31
  scattered.
• 20:31
  Needs
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  be
• 20:32
  put
• 20:32
  into
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  collection,
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  then
• 20:35
  that
• 20:35
  way
• 20:35
  we
• 20:35
  can
• 20:36
  read.
• 20:36
  It's
• 20:36
  not
• 20:36
  going
• 20:36
  to
• 20:36
  be
• 20:36
  horrifically
• 20:37
  long.
• 20:37
  I
• 20:38
  don't
• 20:38
  think
• 20:38
  people
• 20:38
  read
• 20:38
  long
• 20:39
  books
• 20:39
  anymore
• 20:39
  anyway.
• 20:40
  Chapters
• 20:41
  are
• 20:41
  going
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  be
• 20:41
  as
• 20:42
  short
• 20:42
  as
• 20:42
  possible.
• 20:44
  What
• 20:44
  my
• 20:44
  goal
• 20:45
  is
• 20:45
  is
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  have
• 20:45
  it
• 20:46
  where
• 20:46
  it's
• 20:46
  audible,
• 20:47
  where
• 20:47
  people
• 20:47
  can
• 20:47
  listen
• 20:48
  to
• 20:48
  it.
• 20:48
  They
• 20:48
  want
• 20:48
  to
• 20:48
  read
• 20:49
  it
• 20:49
  on
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  book,
• 20:49
  that's
• 20:50
  great.
• 20:50
  It'll
• 20:50
  be
• 20:51
  there.
• 20:51
  But
• 20:52
  then
• 20:52
  also
• 20:52
  they
• 20:52
  can
• 20:53
  listen
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  it
• 20:53
  in
• 20:54
  an
• 20:54
  audible
• 20:54
  way.
• 20:55
  So
• 20:56
  I'm
• 20:56
  even.
• 20:56
  I
• 20:57
  probably
• 20:57
  will
• 20:57
  even
• 20:57
  be
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  one
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  narrates
• 20:58
  it
• 20:59
  when
• 20:59
  we
• 20:59
  do
• 21:00
  the
• 21:00
  audible
• 21:00
  version
• 21:00
  of
• 21:01
  this.
• 21:01
  So
• 21:03
  right
• 21:03
  now,
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  other
• 21:04
  thing
• 21:04
  is,
• 21:04
  is
• 21:05
  I'm
• 21:05
  praying
• 21:06
  about
• 21:07
  something
• 21:08
  that
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  Lord
• 21:08
  has
• 21:08
  been
• 21:09
  putting
• 21:09
  on
• 21:09
  my
• 21:09
  heart
• 21:09
  and
• 21:10
  how
• 21:10
  far
• 21:11
  he
• 21:11
  wants
• 21:11
  us
• 21:11
  to
• 21:12
  go.
• 21:12
  But
• 21:12
  I
• 21:13
  may
• 21:13
  have
• 21:13
  some
• 21:13
  new
• 21:14
  information
• 21:14
  and
• 21:15
  some
• 21:15
  new
• 21:15
  news
• 21:15
  here
• 21:15
  in
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  next
• 21:16
  couple
• 21:17
  of
• 21:17
  weeks.
• 21:17
  Amen.
• 21:18
  Amen.
• 21:19
  Before
• 21:19
  we
• 21:19
  close,
• 21:20
  share
• 21:20
  again
• 21:20
  about
• 21:20
  your
• 21:21
  podcast,
• 21:21
  God
• 21:21
  Center
• 21:22
  Concept.
• 21:22
  You
• 21:23
  bet.
• 21:23
  God
• 21:23
  Center
• 21:23
  Concept
• 21:24
  is
• 21:24
  all
• 21:24
  about
• 21:25
  helping
• 21:25
  you
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  connect
• 21:26
  by
• 21:27
  understanding
• 21:27
  how
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  develop
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  mindset
• 21:28
  and
• 21:28
  attitude
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  connect
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  God
• 21:30
  at
• 21:30
  a
• 21:30
  deeper
• 21:31
  level.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:31
  then
• 21:32
  how
• 21:32
  we.
• 21:33
  How
• 21:33
  we.
• 21:33
  How
• 21:33
  that
• 21:34
  sets
• 21:34
  the
• 21:34
  tone
• 21:34
  for
• 21:35
  us
• 21:35
  to
• 21:35
  go
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  make
• 21:36
  disciples
• 21:36
  of
• 21:36
  other
• 21:37
  people.
• 21:37
  It
• 21:38
  doesn't
• 21:38
  matter
• 21:38
  where
• 21:38
  that's
• 21:39
  at.
• 21:39
  You
• 21:39
  can
• 21:39
  be
• 21:39
  in
• 21:40
  your
• 21:40
  hometown,
• 21:40
  you
• 21:41
  can
• 21:41
  be
• 21:41
  making
• 21:41
  disciples
• 21:42
  across
• 21:42
  the
• 21:43
  oceans,
• 21:44
  into
• 21:44
  other
• 21:44
  land,
• 21:45
  into
• 21:45
  other
• 21:45
  continents.
• 21:46
  It
• 21:46
  could
• 21:47
  be
• 21:47
  you're
• 21:48
  going
• 21:48
  to
• 21:48
  another
• 21:48
  state.
• 21:49
  It
• 21:49
  doesn't
• 21:49
  matter.
• 21:50
  We
• 21:50
  got
• 21:51
  to
• 21:51
  have
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  right
• 21:51
  understanding
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  how
• 21:52
  we
• 21:53
  deeply
• 21:53
  connect
• 21:53
  to
• 21:54
  God.
• 21:54
  The
• 21:54
  deeper
• 21:55
  we
• 21:55
  can
• 21:55
  connect,
• 21:55
  the
• 21:56
  more
• 21:56
  he
• 21:56
  can
• 21:56
  use
• 21:56
  us.
• 21:57
  He
• 21:57
  wants
• 21:58
  us
• 21:58
  to
• 21:58
  be
• 21:58
  complete,
• 21:59
  total
• 21:59
  open
• 22:00
  vessels
• 22:01
  for
• 22:01
  him
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  use.
• 22:03
  And
• 22:04
  that's,
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  know,
• 22:05
  that's
• 22:05
  a,
• 22:05
  sometimes
• 22:06
  a
• 22:06
  hard
• 22:06
  concept
• 22:07
  for
• 22:07
  people
• 22:07
  to
• 22:07
  grasp,
• 22:09
  but
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  is
• 22:09
  what
• 22:10
  he
• 22:10
  asks
• 22:11
  us
• 22:11
  to
• 22:11
  do.
• 22:12
  And
• 22:12
  if
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  read
• 22:13
  our
• 22:14
  found,
• 22:14
  you
• 22:15
  read
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  last
• 22:15
  stage
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  church.
• 22:16
  Revelation
• 22:17
  3,
• 22:18
  14:22.
• 22:19
  We're
• 22:19
  going
• 22:19
  to
• 22:19
  talk
• 22:20
  when
• 22:20
  we
• 22:20
  get
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  that.
• 22:21
  And,
• 22:21
  and
• 22:21
  then
• 22:22
  my
• 22:22
  up
• 22:22
  some
• 22:22
  of
• 22:23
  my
• 22:23
  episodes
• 22:23
  already
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  I've
• 22:24
  already
• 22:24
  put
• 22:24
  out
• 22:24
  in
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  God
• 22:26
  center
• 22:26
  concept
• 22:26
  series.
• 22:27
  You
• 22:27
  can
• 22:28
  listen
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  that
• 22:29
  process
• 22:30
  that
• 22:30
  Jesus
• 22:30
  layers
• 22:31
  out.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:31
  the
• 22:32
  very
• 22:32
  last
• 22:32
  part
• 22:32
  of
• 22:33
  that
• 22:33
  process
• 22:34
  is
• 22:34
  that
• 22:35
  we
• 22:35
  are
• 22:35
  basically
• 22:36
  like
• 22:36
  survivors.
• 22:37
  We
• 22:37
  are
• 22:37
  to
• 22:37
  outlast,
• 22:40
  we're
• 22:40
  outlasting
• 22:41
  until
• 22:42
  our
• 22:42
  we
• 22:43
  go
• 22:43
  home
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  be
• 22:43
  at
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  Lord
• 22:44
  and
• 22:44
  we
• 22:44
  get
• 22:45
  our
• 22:45
  eternal
• 22:45
  reward
• 22:45
  for
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  on
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  throne
• 22:47
  with
• 22:47
  Him.
• 22:48
  He
• 22:48
  who
• 22:48
  endures
• 22:48
  to
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  end
• 22:50
  will
• 22:50
  be
• 22:50
  saved.
• 22:51
  Amen
• 22:51
  to
• 22:52
  that.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:53
  so
• 22:53
  I
• 22:53
  call
• 22:53
  that
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  sur.
• 22:54
  That's,
• 22:55
  that's
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  survival
• 22:56
  mentality,
• 22:56
  is
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  we're
• 22:57
  going
• 22:57
  to
• 22:58
  outplay,
• 22:58
  outlast,
• 22:59
  outwit.
• 23:01
  Amen.
• 23:01
  Amen.
• 23:02
  Praise
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  Lord,
• 23:03
  folks.
• 23:04
  Man,
• 23:05
  this
• 23:05
  has
• 23:05
  been
• 23:05
  good.
• 23:05
  You
• 23:06
  know,
• 23:06
  there's
• 23:06
  no
• 23:07
  doubt
• 23:07
  that
• 23:08
  we're
• 23:08
  not
• 23:08
  living
• 23:08
  in
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  last
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  last
• 23:10
  days.
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  mean,
• 23:10
  you
• 23:11
  know,
• 23:11
  Christian
• 23:12
  scholars
• 23:12
  call
• 23:12
  it
• 23:12
  the
• 23:13
  end
• 23:13
  times.
• 23:13
  Hallelujah.
• 23:14
  And
• 23:14
  we're
• 23:15
  working
• 23:15
  our
• 23:15
  way
• 23:15
  through
• 23:16
  each
• 23:16
  of
• 23:16
  these
• 23:17
  church
• 23:17
  ages
• 23:17
  in
• 23:18
  order
• 23:18
  to
• 23:18
  give
• 23:18
  you
• 23:18
  a
• 23:19
  more
• 23:19
  thorough
• 23:19
  understanding
• 23:20
  of
• 23:20
  how
• 23:21
  all
• 23:21
  of
• 23:21
  this
• 23:22
  fits
• 23:22
  together
• 23:23
  with
• 23:23
  what
• 23:23
  we're
• 23:23
  witnessing
• 23:24
  right
• 23:24
  now
• 23:25
  around
• 23:25
  us
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  on
• 23:25
  their
• 23:26
  evening
• 23:26
  news
• 23:26
  early
• 23:27
  every
• 23:27
  night.
• 23:27
  Okay.
• 23:28
  So
• 23:29
  don't
• 23:29
  be
• 23:30
  scared
• 23:30
  about
• 23:30
  it.
• 23:31
  We
• 23:32
  should
• 23:32
  be
• 23:32
  excited
• 23:32
  about
• 23:33
  it.
• 23:33
  We
• 23:34
  need
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  thank
• 23:34
  God
• 23:34
  every
• 23:35
  day
• 23:35
  that
• 23:35
  our
• 23:35
  eyes
• 23:36
  are
• 23:36
  seeing
• 23:36
  these
• 23:36
  things
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  hearing
• 23:37
  these
• 23:37
  things.
• 23:38
  Because
• 23:38
  Jesus
• 23:38
  said
• 23:39
  prophets
• 23:39
  of
• 23:39
  old
• 23:39
  desire
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  see
• 23:40
  these
• 23:41
  things
• 23:41
  and
• 23:41
  hear
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  things,
• 23:41
  but
• 23:42
  they
• 23:42
  couldn't.
• 23:43
  But
• 23:43
  God
• 23:43
  had
• 23:44
  it
• 23:44
  planned
• 23:44
  that
• 23:45
  you
• 23:45
  were
• 23:45
  born
• 23:46
  in
• 23:46
  this
• 23:46
  day
• 23:47
  and
• 23:47
  in
• 23:47
  this
• 23:47
  time
• 23:48
  right
• 23:48
  now
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  endure
• 23:50
  through
• 23:51
  these
• 23:51
  things,
• 23:52
  you
• 23:52
  know?
• 23:52
  Well,
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  wish
• 23:53
  I'd
• 23:54
  been
• 23:54
  born
• 23:54
  back
• 23:54
  in
• 23:55
  1800s.
• 23:55
  I
• 23:55
  think
• 23:56
  life
• 23:56
  would
• 23:56
  have
• 23:56
  been
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  lot
• 23:57
  simpler
• 23:57
  back
• 23:57
  then.
• 23:58
  You
• 23:58
  wouldn't
• 23:59
  have
• 23:59
  survived
• 23:59
  back
• 23:59
  there.
• 24:00
  You
• 24:00
  weren't
• 24:00
  designed
• 24:01
  by
• 24:02
  God
• 24:02
  to
• 24:02
  be
• 24:03
  back
• 24:03
  there.
• 24:03
  Nope.
• 24:04
  Just
• 24:04
  like,
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  know,
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  couldn't
• 24:05
  take
• 24:05
  one
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  them.
• 24:06
  There
• 24:06
  was
• 24:06
  a
• 24:07
  TV
• 24:07
  show
• 24:07
  when
• 24:07
  I
• 24:08
  was
• 24:08
  young.
• 24:08
  This
• 24:09
  was,
• 24:09
  man,
• 24:10
  this
• 24:10
  was.
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  was
• 24:11
  like
• 24:12
  single
• 24:13
  digit
• 24:13
  age.
• 24:14
  Right.
• 24:14
  So
• 24:15
  this
• 24:15
  is
• 24:15
  50
• 24:15
  some
• 24:16
  years
• 24:16
  ago,
• 24:16
  easy.
• 24:17
  And
• 24:18
  it
• 24:18
  was
• 24:19
  about
• 24:20
  some
• 24:22
  cavemen
• 24:23
  that
• 24:24
  somehow
• 24:25
  got
• 24:25
  transported
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  modern
• 24:27
  day
• 24:27
  America.
• 24:28
  And
• 24:28
  these
• 24:29
  cavemen
• 24:29
  were
• 24:29
  trying
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  fit
• 24:30
  in
• 24:30
  and
• 24:31
  it
• 24:31
  just
• 24:31
  wasn't
• 24:31
  working
• 24:32
  out
• 24:32
  Right.
• 24:33
  Because
• 24:33
  they
• 24:33
  were
• 24:33
  designed
• 24:34
  to
• 24:34
  be
• 24:34
  born
• 24:35
  back
• 24:35
  then,
• 24:36
  you
• 24:37
  could
• 24:37
  not
• 24:37
  survive
• 24:38
  back
• 24:38
  in
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  Old
• 24:38
  west.
• 24:39
  Just
• 24:39
  like
• 24:39
  a
• 24:39
  cowboy
• 24:40
  couldn't
• 24:40
  survive
• 24:41
  today
• 24:42
  if
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  brought
• 24:43
  him
• 24:43
  from
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  Old
• 24:43
  west
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  today.
• 24:45
  God
• 24:45
  has
• 24:45
  it
• 24:46
  planned
• 24:46
  for
• 24:46
  each
• 24:46
  person
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  have
• 24:48
  a
• 24:48
  purpose
• 24:49
  in
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  church
• 24:50
  age
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  in
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  time
• 24:52
  frame
• 24:52
  and
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  lifetime
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  have
• 24:54
  been
• 24:54
  given
• 24:54
  on
• 24:54
  this
• 24:55
  earth,
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  need
• 24:56
  to
• 24:56
  discover
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  purpose.
• 24:57
  You
• 24:57
  need
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  find
• 24:57
  out
• 24:58
  what
• 24:58
  your
• 24:58
  purpose
• 24:58
  is
• 24:59
  and
• 25:00
  live
• 25:01
  like
• 25:02
  every
• 25:02
  day.
• 25:02
  Jesus
• 25:03
  is
• 25:03
  coming
• 25:03
  back
• 25:04
  because
• 25:04
  he
• 25:04
  is
• 25:05
  coming
• 25:05
  back
• 25:05
  soon.
• 25:06
  Amen,
• 25:07
  folks.
• 25:08
  Man,
• 25:08
  Scott,
• 25:08
  this
• 25:08
  has
• 25:09
  been
• 25:09
  good.
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  do
• 25:09
  appreciate
• 25:10
  your
• 25:10
  time
• 25:11
  and
• 25:11
  sharing
• 25:12
  all
• 25:12
  this
• 25:12
  information
• 25:13
  with
• 25:13
  us.
• 25:14
  You
• 25:14
  bet.
• 25:14
  And
• 25:14
  Bob,
• 25:15
  it's
• 25:15
  been
• 25:15
  great
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  be
• 25:15
  on
• 25:15
  the
• 25:16
  show.
• 25:16
  And
• 25:16
  hey,
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  look
• 25:17
  forward
• 25:17
  to
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  fourth
• 25:18
  ages
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  the
• 25:18
  church.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:19
  I'm
• 25:19
  gonna
• 25:19
  be
• 25:20
  honest
• 25:20
  with
• 25:20
  you,
• 25:20
  it's
• 25:21
  probably
• 25:21
  gonna.
• 25:21
  The
• 25:21
  fourth
• 25:22
  age
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  church
• 25:22
  by
• 25:23
  itself
• 25:23
  is
• 25:23
  probably
• 25:23
  gonna
• 25:23
  be
• 25:23
  two
• 25:23
  different
• 25:24
  episodes.
• 25:24
  I
• 25:25
  was
• 25:25
  just
• 25:25
  that
• 25:25
  long.
• 25:25
  When
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  were
• 25:26
  telling
• 25:26
  me
• 25:26
  about
• 25:26
  it,
• 25:27
  I
• 25:27
  was
• 25:27
  like,
• 25:27
  yeah,
• 25:27
  this
• 25:27
  sounds
• 25:28
  like
• 25:28
  it's
• 25:28
  gonna
• 25:28
  be
• 25:28
  two
• 25:28
  episodes.
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  mean,
• 25:30
  this
• 25:30
  is
• 25:30
  almost
• 25:31
  two
• 25:31
  episodes,
• 25:31
  so.
• 25:32
  So
• 25:32
  it
• 25:32
  may
• 25:32
  be
• 25:32
  three
• 25:32
  by
• 25:33
  the
• 25:33
  time
• 25:33
  you
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  get
• 25:34
  done.
• 25:34
  Amen.
• 25:35
  Amen.
• 25:35
  Praise
• 25:35
  the
• 25:36
  Lord.
• 25:36
  Well,
• 25:36
  folks,
• 25:37
  get
• 25:37
  in
• 25:37
  touch
• 25:37
  with
• 25:37
  Scott.
• 25:38
  Drop
• 25:38
  down
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  show
• 25:38
  notes,
• 25:39
  click
• 25:39
  the
• 25:39
  links
• 25:39
  right
• 25:39
  there.
• 25:39
  Order
• 25:40
  his
• 25:40
  book
• 25:40
  God
• 25:41
  Centered
• 25:41
  Concept,
• 25:41
  Making
• 25:42
  God's
• 25:42
  Word
• 25:42
  My
• 25:42
  Ways,
• 25:43
  and
• 25:43
  subscribe
• 25:44
  to
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  podcast.
• 25:45
  His
• 25:45
  podcast
• 25:45
  is
• 25:46
  awesome.
• 25:46
  He's
• 25:46
  got
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  lot
• 25:46
  of
• 25:47
  great
• 25:47
  information
• 25:47
  on
• 25:47
  there.
• 25:48
  That
• 25:48
  link's
• 25:48
  down
• 25:48
  below
• 25:48
  in
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  show
• 25:49
  notes
• 25:49
  as
• 25:49
  well.
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  guess
• 25:52
  God
• 25:52
  has
• 25:52
  been
• 25:52
  good
• 25:52
  folks.
• 25:53
  That's
• 25:53
  all
• 25:53
  the
• 25:54
  time
• 25:54
  we
• 25:54
  have
• 25:54
  for
• 25:54
  today
• 25:55
  for
• 25:55
  Scott
• 25:55
  Wright.
• 25:55
  Myself
• 25:56
  passed
• 25:56
  by
• 25:56
  reminding
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  be
• 25:57
  blessed
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  all
• 25:58
  that
• 25:59
  you
• 25:59
  do.
• 26:02
  Thank
• 26:02
  you
• 26:02
  for
• 26:03
  listening
• 26:03
  to
• 26:03
  today's
• 26:04
  episode
• 26:04
  of
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
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• 26:05
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• 26:06
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• 26:06
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• 26:07
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• 26:07
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• 26:08
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• 26:08
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• 26:09
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• 26:09
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• 26:09
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• 26:09
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• 26:10
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• 26:10
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• 26:11
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• 26:11
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• 26:12
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• 26:13
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• 26:13
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• 26:16
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• 26:17
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• 26:17
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• 26:40
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• 26:40
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