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Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 21 2026 · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday edition.
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  Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.
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  Speaker 2: Although you'll note just Buck talking today. Clay is taking
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  Speaker 2: a day for travel. We've got a lot to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the midterms in full swing as early voting
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  Speaker 2: is happening in a whole bunch of places, including Texas.
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  Speaker 2: So I will leave the haranguing on this one to Clay.
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  Speaker 2: But for those of you who can vote who have
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  Speaker 2: not early voted, perhaps... worth considering i'm trying to find
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  Speaker 2: a time to go i want to go with carrie
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  Speaker 2: with my wife together i feel like that will be
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  Speaker 2: kind of a fun activity we'll take a nice little
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  Speaker 2: stroll down to uh city hall here in miami beach or.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's the convention center i forget where.
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  Speaker 2: The voting uh what they call the voting place but
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  Speaker 2: uh we're gonna go get that early vote done because
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  Speaker 2: well of course our civic duty the beautiful thing the
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  Speaker 2: voting that is such a big part of what it
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  Speaker 2: means to be an american and So we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get that done, but we're also going to look closely
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  Speaker 2: here at where all.
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  Speaker 1: These races currently stand. We have.
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  Speaker 2: Some— I think we're at the point where we can say
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  Speaker 2: some suppression polls coming in. Big hammering from the New
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  Speaker 2: York Times on this New York Times-Siena poll. They're saying
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  Speaker 2: Trump sits 36 percent approval, 59 percent disapproved. They're saying lowest—
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  Speaker 2: that's the lowest that they've ever polled Trump, and that
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  Speaker 2: Democrat voters have an 11-point favorability. Look, that's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of noise at the national level. First of all, Trump's
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  Speaker 2: not actually on the ballot. I know he's out there.
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  Speaker 2: He was in North Carolina yesterday. We'll get to some
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  Speaker 2: of that in a moment. But this is about the
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  Speaker 2: individual members of Congress. This is about House reps, senators, governors,
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  Speaker 2: and some other positions out there that are very important,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you live, well... important for you if you
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  Speaker 2: live in one of the states affected, but also important
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  Speaker 2: for control of Congress and the next two years of
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration. So I will tell you, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be very tight. I'm not expecting some,
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  Speaker 2: certainly not expecting a red wave. No one's expecting that.
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  Speaker 2: But I believe that you can see some last minute
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  Speaker 2: surge here in some of these close races that'll deliver
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  Speaker 2: some nice wins to Republicans in some critical places. That's
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  Speaker 2: my My sense right now, a lot of money going
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  Speaker 2: into this, of course, still. And we have not even
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  Speaker 2: hit Election Day. Trump was in North Carolina yesterday. Let
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  Speaker 2: me let me start with this. I'm going to work
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  Speaker 2: a little bit through the you know what? I was
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  Speaker 2: going to say good news, bad news.
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  Speaker 1: But who knows?
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina turn out big time and defeat this Roy
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  Speaker 2: Cooper guy and give Michael Watley the big job. That
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  Speaker 2: would be a much, much better move. But let's see
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  Speaker 2: where we are. With things Trump was there yesterday and he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of doing a highlight reel. It's
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  Speaker 2: really the Trump highlight reel out there on display for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: This is cut for play it.
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  Speaker 3: The choice in this election is very simple. You can
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  Speaker 3: vote for the radical left Democrat communist to loot your wealth,
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  Speaker 3: raise your taxes by five trillion dollars. Annihilate your borders,
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  Speaker 3: decimate North Carolina industries. I mean, look at me, I'm
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  Speaker 3: up here for just a little while and I'm announcing
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  Speaker 3: two companies and the military are gonna be spending, right?
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna mutilate your children, the utilization of your transgender utilization.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine that? Give 25 million illegal aliens amnesty,
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  Speaker 3: They're going to have they're still fighting.
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  Speaker 1: For men playing in women's sports.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Or or you can defeat the Democrat communist and vote
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  Speaker 3: for more money in your pockets, bigger paychecks for your families,
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  Speaker 3: lower taxes, less crime, a booming North Carolina economy. No
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  Speaker 3: amnesty for illegal aliens. But to do that, you must
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  Speaker 3: vote Republican.
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  Speaker 1: It's all true.
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  Speaker 2: And those are areas of high voter concern right now.
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  Speaker 2: The highest, of course, the economy, but also on the
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  Speaker 2: borders and crime economy borders crime. We talk about it
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  Speaker 2: a lot here on the show. I would say the
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  Speaker 2: first of all, Trump is in a place where if
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  Speaker 2: he wants to say mutilization, I think he's probably able
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  Speaker 2: to coin the term. Maybe that will become a word
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  Speaker 2: on its own. I believe he means mutilation, but he
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  Speaker 2: keeps saying mutilization. But because he's Trump, I think it
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  Speaker 2: might sort of catch on. I actually didn't know, in fairness,
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  Speaker 2: that bigly was a word until Trump used it. So
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  Speaker 2: Trump taught me a word, which is not a very
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  Speaker 2: common thing. So I give him a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe mutilization will find its way into the Merriam-Webster dictionary.
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  Speaker 2: Point being, Trump is doing what he does best out there,
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  Speaker 2: making the case to the American people on the campaign
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  Speaker 2: trail that these Democrats are nuts. And that there's absolutely
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  Speaker 2: no way they're going to be able to improve the
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  Speaker 2: lives of the people who.
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  Speaker 1: Are currently frustrated.
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  Speaker 2: That's really the saddest thing of all, when you look
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  Speaker 2: at where Democrats stand on these issues and what we've
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  Speaker 2: seen play out, not just under the Trump second term,
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  Speaker 2: but just in general in American politics, let's just say
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  Speaker 2: in the 21st century to tie it all together. Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are wrong on all of the key issues. and yet
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  Speaker 2: they're able to generate, of course they have tremendous allegiance
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  Speaker 2: from some people, who don't care about the wrongness of
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  Speaker 2: their beliefs. This is what you get with people in
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  Speaker 2: cities where the needles are everywhere, the druggies are everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: there's too much crime, there's blight in the downtown, and
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  Speaker 2: it's only Democrats in charge and people keep voting Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: They just haven't suffered enough. And they think that they're
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  Speaker 2: suffering through bad policy, somehow makes them a better person.
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  Speaker 2: The suffering doesn't maybe affect them. There's that not in
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  Speaker 2: my backyard phenomenon. It really comes down to whether Democrats
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  Speaker 2: think that the vote that they cast as a statement
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  Speaker 2: of personal superiority, I'm a good person, is more important
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  Speaker 2: and affects them more than the reality of the politicians
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  Speaker 2: and the policies that come into play when you put
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  Speaker 2: a party in power that lacks a self-correction mechanism. They
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  Speaker 2: just keep doubling down on crazy all the time. They
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  Speaker 2: have changed nothing since 2024. I think that's worth pointing out.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump led a red wave and the Democrats got
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  Speaker 2: thoroughly trounced. And yet, whether it's the transgender sports issue
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  Speaker 2: or it's the Democrats being an open borders party and
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  Speaker 2: all these, the Democrats being the party of more crime,
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  Speaker 2: less safety, all these things remain true. But because there
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  Speaker 2: is economic frustration out there right now, they.
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  Speaker 1: See an opening.
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  Speaker 2: They see the ability to connect with people on an
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  Speaker 2: emotional level that will override the rational, override the experience
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  Speaker 2: of what it has been for them to be an
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  Speaker 2: American in this country for the last few years and
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  Speaker 2: really for all time and say, you know what? This
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  Speaker 2: time around, I will vote Democrat or this time around,
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  Speaker 2: I'll actually show up.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I wasn't going to show up.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you get into party switching or independence swing voters.
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  Speaker 2: You also get into enthusiasm, base turnout. All these things
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  Speaker 2: come together and the votes will be tallied and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see how it shakes out. But I do feel like
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  Speaker 2: there is some good momentum now behind the Republicans. It
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  Speaker 2: felt a little too quiet and I was a little
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  Speaker 2: frustrated with it. in particularly August into the first half
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  Speaker 2: of September. That seems to have been the strategy, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll see if the strategy pays off for them. Something
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  Speaker 2: else that we'll spend more time talking about today, Trump here,
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  Speaker 2: here he is talking about the Ilhan Omar phenomenon.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, you bleeped this, right? I think we needed a bleep.
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  Speaker 2: Just making sure, because I'm looking at the transcript. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: we had to bleep Trump, the president. Here he is,
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  Speaker 2: Trump on Ilhan Omar, play cut nine.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they keep talking about deportation.
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  Speaker 3: Now, she could go to jail.
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  Speaker 4: This is just my opinion. I think she's a sick,
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  Speaker 4: very dishonest person who hates our country. She comes from
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  Speaker 4: a country that is essentially not even a country, Somalia.
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  Speaker 4: It's a real sh * * house, okay? It's got
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  Speaker 4: no government. It's got no police protect. All they do
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  Speaker 4: is have people running around shooting each other. Then she
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  Speaker 4: comes over here and she wants to tell us how
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  Speaker 4: to run America. She wants to tell us how to
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  Speaker 4: run the United States of America. And she'll say, I
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  Speaker 4: have constitutional rights. And she never heard the word constitutional.
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  Speaker 4: She never saw that before. See that? She never saw
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  Speaker 4: that before. But she says she has rights. she's a
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  Speaker 4: disgrace to our country and it's amazing that she can
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  Speaker 4: get elected but somalians vote for her you know somalians
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  Speaker 4: vote for her and most of them shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 2: Here so there's something much bigger at work with the
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  Speaker 2: investigation into ilhan omar as well there are some very
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  Speaker 2: uh weighty issues that come into play first of all
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  Speaker 2: if in fact the charges against her are proven and
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  Speaker 2: she has found she has found guilty she has not
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  Speaker 2: even been charged yet so this is all just investigation
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  Speaker 2: and allegation if in fact that's the case she would
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  Speaker 2: be the first person possibly in well she would be
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  Speaker 2: the first person if she uh was found guilty to
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  Speaker 2: have been in congress and face deportation from the country
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  Speaker 2: and being stripped of citizenship that is a possibility right
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  Speaker 2: now with a sitting member of congress a democrat Beyond that, though,
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  Speaker 2: and this is why I understand, first of all, Trump
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  Speaker 2: talking about how Somalia is not a nice place. Leftists,
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat corporate media, they're going to say he's just behind.
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  Speaker 2: mean or he's being racist or he's being whatever it
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  Speaker 2: is no there's an important lesson from this yes of
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  Speaker 2: course we've taken in far too many people from the
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  Speaker 2: third world legally and illegally in my lifetime into this
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  Speaker 2: country and that needs to be that needs to stop
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  Speaker 2: We also have to have a massive increase in deportations,
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  Speaker 2: which they're increasing it. And we can look at the
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  Speaker 2: latest numbers from DHS. But that is an important, a
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  Speaker 2: critical mission, I would say, for the future of the country. However,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at Ilhan Omar, you also get a
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  Speaker 2: real sense of how Democrats are just emotionally and psychologically
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  Speaker 2: predisposed to resent a country that they should be so
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  Speaker 2: grateful to. Instead of saying I'm proud to be an American,
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  Speaker 2: Democrats say I'm proud to be better than America. Put
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  Speaker 2: me in charge and I'll make it what it should be.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, it's really not so great. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of racist, kind of bad, a lot of things about it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: you can push this issue more, say, well, if it's
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  Speaker 2: so bad, why do people from all over the world,
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  Speaker 2: why do so many people from name a poor country?
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  Speaker 2: Why do they all want to come here? And they'll say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's because we're wealthy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, guess what? There's a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Countries, actually, that are well off. And now they go
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  Speaker 2: to some of those countries, too. But they all want
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  Speaker 2: to come here, despite the fact that they have tremendous
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  Speaker 2: criticisms and a lot of resentment for this place. And
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  Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar, somebody who left a failed dysfunctional state and
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  Speaker 2: was taken in now, allegedly illegally, but taken in. by
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  Speaker 2: the warm embrace of this incredible place known as America,
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  Speaker 2: and then has proceeded, yes, she's a member of Congress,
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  Speaker 2: but she constantly denigrates American foreign policy, denigrates American culture,
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  Speaker 2: denigrates the Constitution, all of these things, things that don't
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  Speaker 2: even exist in the home country that she fled. You
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  Speaker 2: would think there would be nothing but a constant gratitude.
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  Speaker 2: How many of you have seen a video? How many
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  Speaker 2: of you have seen Ilhan Omar with a smile on
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  Speaker 2: her face just talking about what a beautiful, incredible place
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  Speaker 2: America is, how wonderful this country is, how she's lucky
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  Speaker 2: to be here, never mind be a member of Congress,
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  Speaker 2: how it took in her family, and it took in
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  Speaker 2: so many other Somalis from the hellhole that had been
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  Speaker 2: ruined by Somalis. There's no sense of gratitude. There's no
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  Speaker 2: sense of accountability. And that is something that Ilhan Omar
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately shares with all of these uh dsa socialists with
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  Speaker 2: all of these leftists with all these maniacs even running
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  Speaker 2: around in paris with palestinian flags that they're flying while
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  Speaker 2: they burn down stores and they loot and they pillage
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  Speaker 2: they don't appreciate how wonderful the place is that they
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  Speaker 2: happen to be lucky enough to either have been born
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  Speaker 2: into or perhaps snuck into no gratitude No sense of
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  Speaker 2: wanting to give back and be thankful in a meaningful way. No,
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  Speaker 2: they're here. They're inside. They're a fifth column and they
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  Speaker 2: want to tear it down. They think they know better.
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  Speaker 2: They want to make it something else. just get enough
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  Speaker 2: resentful people together and give them enough power, and they'll
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  Speaker 2: transform this place known as America into something so much better,
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  Speaker 2: even though the place they come from is so much worse.
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  Speaker 2: Why would they know more than we know here about
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  Speaker 2: how to have a great country? That is what Trump
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  Speaker 2: is getting at. That is what Americans need to be
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  Speaker 2: reminded of as we look at who to vote for
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  Speaker 2: in this election cycle, which is the party that appreciates, loves, cherishes,
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  Speaker 2: and protects America. which is the party that constantly undermines, denigrates,
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  Speaker 2: and wants to transform this place because it's just not
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  Speaker 2: good enough. Ilhan Omar is just one example of countless
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  Speaker 2: examples of Democrats who take that approach. Whether you're in
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  Speaker 2: Michigan or Pennsylvania or Texas or North Carolina or take
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  Speaker 2: your pick, they are always in the blame America first party.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Before we get
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: to our guests, just some breaking news the team has
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• 15:27
  Speaker 2: as Facebook, but it also owns Instagram and has other things,
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  Speaker 1: $ 25 billion.
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  Speaker 2: $ 25 million is a joke to Meta. $ 25 billion is
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  Speaker 2: real money. That's something to think about. Shabbos Kestenbaum of
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  Speaker 2: PragerU joins us now. He's an American Jewish activist. After
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  Speaker 2: the October 7th attacks on Israel, he filed a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: against Harvard University, alleging the university failed to protect Jewish
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  Speaker 2: and Israeli students from harassment and discrimination.
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  Speaker 1: And he was.
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  Speaker 2: Previously a Democrat. So Shabbos, welcome to the light, sir.
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  Speaker 2: The light of wisdom, truth, and the American way.
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  Speaker 6: Don't hold it against me, all right? No one's perfect.
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  Speaker 6: I've repented, and I'm officially a conservative. Conservative enough that, Prager,
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  Speaker 6: you hired me.
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  Speaker 7: At least.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. Tell me about, we've got a few
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  Speaker 2: things we could talk about. First of all, actually, I
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  Speaker 2: wanted your take on this. Why is it that the
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  Speaker 2: maniacs running on the streets of not just Paris, a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of French cities, but a number of French cities,
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  Speaker 2: you'll notice they have the masked up faces, of course.
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  Speaker 2: They're breaking stuff. They're stealing stuff. They're lighting things on
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  Speaker 2: fire and waving Palestinian flags. Walk us through this. What's
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  Speaker 2: going on there?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I figured you'd ask that. I was at Boise
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  Speaker 6: State last night and a student asked me the exact
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  Speaker 6: same thing. It's because of the Omni cause. Palestine has
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  Speaker 6: become the great connector of all these disjointed movements. It's
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  Speaker 6: the only thing that really connects Anna Kasparian with Candace Owens,
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  Speaker 6: the thing that connects the far left with the Islamists.
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  Speaker 6: So you have Greta Thunberg, who when I was a liberal,
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  Speaker 6: I remember skipping school to protest with her outside of
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  Speaker 6: the United Nations for climate change, and we were burning
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  Speaker 6: too many fossil fuels. But now, of course, Palestine is
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  Speaker 6: a climate issue. And Palestine is an abortion women's rights issue.
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  Speaker 6: And Palestine is a gay issue. So whatever issue you
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  Speaker 6: just want to project onto other things, Palestine has just
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  Speaker 6: become that thing, which is why you don't even have
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  Speaker 6: to articulate or explain the nuances of one of the
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  Speaker 6: most complex geopolitical issues in the world. Just say free Palestine.
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  Speaker 6: Just say river to the sea. Just put a Palestine
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  Speaker 6: flag in your Instagram bio. And that's enough. That's enough
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  Speaker 6: to virtue signal. And that's what these attacks represent. And
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  Speaker 6: that's why someone like Congressman Ro Khanna can sympathize with
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  Speaker 6: it so much because he no longer has to defend
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  Speaker 6: the looting, the burning, and the vandalism. He can just say, well,
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  Speaker 6: they're angry about Gaza and they have a right to
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  Speaker 6: be heard. It's just silly, and I would hope the
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  Speaker 6: American people see through this.
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  Speaker 2: The election that's coming up here, you have this Abdul
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Al-Sayed character who is a very realistic, has a very
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: realistic shot of winning a Michigan Senate seat. He has
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: been viewed by many as.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Is viewed by many as anti-Semitic. I think he just
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: recently said that Israel is not an ally of the
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: United States. Is he, not only as a candidate, but
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: just is he symbolic of a broader trend in America?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And how do you think, particularly, you're a young guy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much of a whippersnapper you are,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: but I can tell you're younger than me. How much
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: of the young Jewish American community would you say is
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: is either waking up to, if they haven't already woken
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: up to, an America in which outright hostility toward Israel
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and toward the Jews is seeming to be more normalized,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: especially by candidates for higher office.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, first of all, don't sell yourself short. You're
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: pretty young too, all right? We're in this together. I
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: would say a couple of things. First of all, this
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: race in Michigan is the most important race this November,
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: hands down, because we as conservatives have been making the
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: argument that for basically years now, that the DSA can
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: essentially only win in places like New York City, places
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: like Los Angeles, these big blue cities. Now, it's true,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: El-Sayed is not officially part of the DSA, but he's
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: adopted most of their policies. And if a guy like
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Abdul El-Sayed, someone whose mom was working for an organization
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: that was shut down by the Department of Treasury for
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: literally supporting Osama bin Laden, someone whose sister says that,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: you know, our family's part of the Muslim Brotherhood, someone
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: who defended an Islamic jihadi attack against a Michigan preschool
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: by saying, hurt people, hurt people. If that, you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Muslim radical can win in a swing state, a state
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: that Trump carried two out of three, then what that
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: signifies to the DSA is let's run these candidates everywhere.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: We are nationally competitive. And our argument as conservatives of
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: the DSA doesn't really represent the mainstream Democratic Party, or
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: at least the DSA isn't competitive. It's just not true anymore.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: And as a conservative, that makes me happy because that
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: means we can really show that the Democratic Party functioning
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: no longer exists. But as an American, that concerns me
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: because they're so radical, they're so extreme, and they're so
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: far to the left. And the message I always say
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: to the American Jewish community of is if you want
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: to be taken seriously, stop being taken for granted. The
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Democratic Party will continue to nominate people like Abdul El-Sayed
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: and people like Zohra Mamdani because they think to themselves, wow,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: you stupid Jews, 60% of you are still going to
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: vote for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan. So we have no
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: political incentive to nominate moderates. We have no political incentive
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: to nominate people in the middle because you're just going
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: to vote for our extreme anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish, anti-American, anti-Western candidates.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: So why would we ever not nominate people like Abdul El-Sayed?
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: So it's imperative. that moderates and, of course, conservatives and
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Republicans come together for this election and defeat Abdul El-Sayed.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: He represents a significant threat, not just to the Jewish
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: community of Michigan and not just to the people of Michigan,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: but to really our body politic. We have to make
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: it clear that we do not like candidates and we
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: do not support candidates who fundamentally hate the United States
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: of America. And that's what Abdul El-Sayed does and represents.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We're speaking to Shabbos Kestenbaum of PragerU. He's a host
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of PragerU and Shabbos, You touched on something there I
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: wanted to see if you could just expand your thinking
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: on a little bit for everyone, because it's come up
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: before on the show, and that is the Jewish community
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: specifically in Michigan. My esteemed co-host Clay, who has a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: day off today, he and I have been going back
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and forth on whether there will be a clear, meaning
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: at least a double-digit shift in the Jewish vote in
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Michigan because Abdul El-Sayed is the candidate. I always say
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to him, that Bernie Sanders Jews will vote. I mean,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: they would vote for the head of the Muslim Brotherhood
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: as long as the rest of the sort of left-wing
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Jewish political program was attached to it, that they'll put
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: those things aside. Clay is not as, you know, he
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: thinks they wouldn't just vote for bin Laden or they
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: wouldn't vote for some radical Islamist, and he thinks they
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: won't vote for al-Sayed.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: What do you make of that?
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the short answer is like kind of. So I'll
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: go to New York just for a second. Kathy Hochul
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: had won the Jewish vote by significant numbers in 2022
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: when she ran against Lee Zeldin. It was a favorability
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: upwards of 30 percent. Now that she's running against Bruce Blakeman.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: And full disclosure, I support Bruce Blakeman. I've done some
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: campaign events with him, but I'm fairly positive Kathy Ogle
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: will win regardless. But the Jewish vote has markedly swung
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: away from her and her approval rating amongst Jews. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: only upwards of 3% as opposed to Bruce Blakeman. So
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: what we're seeing in Michigan is something kind of interesting.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: People like Rabbi Asher Lopatin, who's a respected Orthodox rabbi
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: who actually know personally, he's a liberal by all imaginations.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: He's come out in favor of Mike Rogers. He's endorsed
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: him publicly. You do have a lot of the mainstream
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Jewish establishment, like the Federation, that while they may not
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: endorse a candidate explicitly, are very clearly against Abdul El-Sayed
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: and the radicalism that he represents. So I do actually
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: think you'll see a shift away, and that includes Jewish Democrats.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: If they won't vote for Mike Rogers because they just
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: cannot vote for a Republican because that's one of the
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: cardinal sins, at the very least, they're going to leave
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: that slate blank. And if and when Mike Rogers wins,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: I do think a large part of that will be
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: because of Jews, and in particular, Jewish Democrats. And Mike
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Rogers is very smart. His campaign has been run pretty well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: He's made the case too. You don't have to support me.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: I get it. I get you don't want to support Republicans.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: But at the very least, leave that slant, slap lake,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: you know, don't vote for Abdul El-Sayed, because that is
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: a vote for Mike Rogers, if you leave him blank.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: And that's actually an effective argument.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: My team is telling me, by the way, I didn't
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: know this, that Deborah Messing, the very left wing actress
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: is actually backing Blakeman, she is Jewish and outspoken on
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: some of those issues. Are there others from the Jewish
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: community who are becoming, are they switching from Bernie Sanders
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Jews to Carol Markowitz Jews, for example, one of our
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: podcast hosts here, who's maybe as right-wing as I am?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Is that happening with some of these more prominent names
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: in the community, or is it really just a one-time
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: We have to send a message here by not allowing
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Abdul El-Sayed as a candidate to get through.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: So again, yes and no. And Deborah and I were
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: actually at the same event with Bruce Blakeman. And you
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: also see it on the Upper East Side in Congressional
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: District 12, where a lot of prominent American Jews are.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: That's where I grew up, by the way.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That was my congressional district for like 30 something years.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Sorry to hear you were represented by Jerry Nadler. But
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: point being, it's a great area. But Caroline Schenkel, who's
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: the Republican nominee, she's been making a really solid push
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: to the Jewish community, most of whom are registered Democrats,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: and she's actually succeeding. Now, will that be enough to
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: pull her over? We'll see. But she is making a
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: concerted effort. And you do have prominent American lifelong Jewish
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Democrats who are willing to make the switch. And I'll
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: make another sort of analogous scenario here. Donald Trump did
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: not win the majority of the American Jewish vote, but
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: he did win the largest percentage of the Jewish vote
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: of any Republican nominee since Ronald Reagan. The Republican Jewish
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: coalition put in an historic amount of funding for advertisements
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: and for getting out the vote campaigns, and it kind
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: of did work. So we are seeing, and there was
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: an article about this in the Wall Street Journal just
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: two or three days ago, that the cracks have emerged
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: in the Democratic Party. And outside of African-Americans, Jews used
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: to be the most loyal constituents to the Democratic Party.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: And what we have seen with people like Zohra Mamdani
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: or Abdul El-Sayed, or yes, Jerry Nadler, I mentioned early,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: if you're not going to support our constituency, then I
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: hate to say it, but like American politics are exclusively transactional.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: We have this, you know, fictitious version of democracy that
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: we all sing Kumbaya and get along with each other.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: And that's not really true. And if you don't want
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: to make concessions to the American Jewish community, that's your prerogative,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: but then we're not really going to support you. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: as I said earlier, my message to Jewish Democrats, if
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: you want to be taken seriously, stop being taken for granted.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: You know, hold your nose, vote for Mike Rogers just
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: this one time, if only to send the message to
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: the Democratic Party, stop nominating these crazies.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: So we're speaking to Shabbos Kestenbaum from PragerU. And so
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: you are Gen Z. So I can– not to get
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: into the whole whippersnapper discussion again. I appreciate it. I'm
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: just going to hide the gray patch on my beard here.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: But you're Gen Z. This guy– this ties in the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Al-Sayed thing. This guy, Hasan Piker, we haven't talked about
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: him a little bit on the show. He was getting
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: so much attention for a while. Look, a lot of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the stuff he says, most of the stuff that he
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: says is both loathsome and stupid. And we deal with
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the arguments here. But I'm wondering if you can speak
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: to this.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Why is someone like that popular among the young? And
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: there are young men that it seems are. And I
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: think he was like a streaming guy from the video games. Like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: where does the popularity of somebody who dresses, who cosplays
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: as Mao Zedong in public?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And he truly does.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: What about that whole get up and thing? Yeah, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: think there are a couple.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Of ways of answering this question. Firstly, I would say,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: I know you didn't ask it specifically, but I think
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: it's important to address it. You know, Charlie always taught
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: me that you combat bad ideas with better ideas. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: even though I detest what Assan Piker stands for, ultimately,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think the response should be cancellation. So that's
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: number one. In terms of the specifics of your question
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: of like, why did Gen Z like this guy? I
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: do think in general, there's been a very successful demoralization
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: campaign targeting young people in America. We're seeing it on
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: both the far left and on the far right. And
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: so Gen Z, who do not remember 9-11, they don't
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: have that as a significant memory in their psyche, they're
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: more likely to believe a guy who says America deserved
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: 9-11 because they don't really remember the horrors of that day.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: And they're sympathetic to those who want to blow up
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: the political establishment because the problems that someone like Nick
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: Fuentes on the right or Hasan Piker on the left diagnosed,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: for the most part, are kind of accurate. They'll talk
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: about affordability, which is true. They'll talk about the epidemic
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: of male loneliness, which is kind of true. they won't
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: offer any practical antidotes they won't after offer any practical
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: policies or pieces of legislation that will help them they'll
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: just get them really really angry and and it's working
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: we also see at the same time as someone who
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: came from as you said institutions of higher learning in
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: particular at harvard we are seeing that our institutions of
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: higher learning are indoctrinating students not uh professors who care
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: about how you should think but what you should think
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: and that is a major major problem it's ruining the
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: psyche of young people in america I wish we had.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Time for more of a long form here. Unfortunately, we've
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: got radio breaks and things I've got to get to.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: But give me a quick one-minute version. How did you
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: step into the light? What made you break with being
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: a Democrat?
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Well, ironically, Ben Shapiro once said we have to fund
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Harvard University. And I said, what are you talking about?
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: We have to defund them. And he said, no, Chavez,
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you entered Harvard as a socialist and you left as
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: a conservative. So whatever they did, it's working. And that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: basically what happened. I started to meet leftists for the
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: first time in my life. I didn't know other leftists
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: because as an Orthodox Jew, you don't know any other
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Orthodox Jews who voted for Bernie Sanders. And once I
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: started meeting real leftists in real life and having conversations
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: with them on Harvard's campus, I quickly realized that we
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: have so many ideological flaws. And then the final nail
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: in the coffin was October 7th, because not only do
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: we have ideological flaws, not only can we not back
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: up our assertions politically, but also you support terrorists. Also,
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: you support the eradication of Western civilization. And that's when
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm done. And to your point, I turned
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: to the dark side. And I'm very happy I did,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: because it's a lot more fun and more cool being
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: a conservative. And we make a lot more sense.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the team. Quick, quick, quick one here.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Words per minute contest. You and the great Ben Shapiro.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Who gets more words a minute?
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: You know, Ben, Ben told me I talk too fast,
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: which I think is a little odd coming from Ben.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think I talk fast. I think people comprehend slowly,
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: but that's an argument for another time.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Chavez Kestenbaum. Good to talk to you, my friend. Good
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: work at PragerU. Thanks for being here.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it, man.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I'm on the record with this. We'll hold on to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the Senate in the midterms, I think. Holding the House majority,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a tougher call. Everybody knows that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: In a few weeks, we're going to see. And hopefully,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: we're getting some good surprises on the House side of things.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. What won't change is the spending
• 29:46
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  Speaker 2: my friends welcome to clay and buck hour two with
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: our friend doug shown longtime democratic strategist pollster and political
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  Speaker 2: analyst more than 40 years of experience as a pollster
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  Speaker 2: Clinton and to the presidential campaign of Michael Bloomberg.
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  Speaker 1: He knows this game. He knows these numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Doug, I want to hand you, we covered some of
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the early numbers, but I want your take on it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: How's it looking? Who's up?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Who's down? Where's it going?
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: Well, I think the Democrats have a clear lead in
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: the House, and I'd be very surprised if they don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: win a narrow majority there. In the Senate, Most of
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: the key races are within the margin of error. Races
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: like Texas, Ohio, even Kansas have shown either a tie
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: or a slight Democratic lead consistently, but by no means
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: enough that those races can be called. I should add
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: Maine and probably Minnesota to that list. as well. The
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: problem my party, the Democrats, have is while people are
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: upset with Trump and the Trump administration, they don't necessarily
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: see the Democrats buck as much better. And in a
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: lot of states where the Democrats are doing pretty well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: the Democratic image is less good than the Republican image.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: So we are really in a dynamic, competitive situation today.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Do you see any place any race in particular where
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the such as it is the polling conventional wisdom or
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: the aggregate of polls that's out there you're just not
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: buying it i mean the example that we always talk
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: about is when uh seltzer came out with her iowa
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: poll in 24 yeah i said it at the time
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and we said no way okay there's just no way
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: com was up 11 and as we all know where
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that one ended you go ahead.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: I apologize for interrupting. But what I was going to
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: say is I've worked in Kansas before. I've worked for
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: Democrats there who thought they were competitive or independents who
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: thought they were competitive. The Republican base is pretty strong there. Obviously,
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Roger Marshall has problems, both politically and personally. But if
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: I had to bet he'll pull out a narrow victory,
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: my sense is The polls are exaggerating ever so slightly
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: Adam Hamilton's support. But again, that remains within the margin
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: of error. But I bet on the Republicans there. Lesser extent, Texas. Texas, again,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: has a solid Republican lean to it. My hesitancy is
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: Tallarico has run a very good campaign and Paxton hasn't.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: has until recently, with the infusion of resources, run a
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: more problematic effort that until, again, Elon Musk and the
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: National Party came in, was very much underfunded. So, again,
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: I guess if I had to bet, I would bet
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: on Paxton, but I'm a little more sure for the
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: Republicans of Kansas than Texas.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: So far, I was pulling up those Texas numbers you're talking.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: That was the next thing I was going to ask
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you about. So you read my mind, Doug. We're speaking
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to Doug Schoen, by the way, everybody who's been in
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the polling and political strategy game for 40 years. And
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: and we have early Texas voting off to, I think,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a record start statewide. Day one in-person turnout was roughly
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: seven hundred and eighty thousand.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing here and.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Seven hundred trackers show roughly seven hundred to eight hundred
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: thousand total ballots statewide. record 19 million registered voters. So
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: it's early days there. Are we able to get any
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: sense of how this compares to other cycles with the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: early voting in Texas? Or is it honestly just too
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: much of a snapshot to really know?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It's too much.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: Of a snapshot. It's too early.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: I think we'll have a sense next week as to
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: where we stand, who's voting, where the votes are coming from.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: But on day one, you really you can't draw any
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: meaningful conclusions.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And talk to me about Maine and New Hampshire, because
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like those are two of the not sleepers
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: in this. Obviously, there are Senate seats, very important races,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but they're not getting the national headlines that particularly Michigan
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and Texas have just been front and center in the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: news cycle for a couple of months now. Talk to
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: me about Maine and New Hampshire, what you're seeing there,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: what we can extrapolate based on what we know so far.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: Let me start with New Hampshire, because I think that's
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: more straightforward. I think Pappas is four to six points ahead.
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: I know people have been saying Sununu is going to
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: pull an upset. I tend to doubt it. I think
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: the Democrats will hold New Hampshire. Maine is a little
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: bit more complicated. Jackson has had anywhere from a one
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: to two point lead, which is statistically meaningless. Susan Collins
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: is a very good closer. Jackson is a very far
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: left candidate. I think if there's going to be something
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: that defies the conventional wisdom, it would be much, much
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: more likely Maine than New Hampshire.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I would agree.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, by the way. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: feel like Susan Collins will get it done. Sununu, even
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: though he's a really well-known name in the state for
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: obvious reasons and I think has run a very smart
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: campaign and that it's a New Hampshire first campaign, he's
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: really focused in on just a little bit hard there
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: given this cycle. One that Clay would want me to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: ask you about, by the way, Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota–
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: people just assume minnesota it's so blue it's so blue
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: how could anybody uh i've been seeing numbers that indicate
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's definitely a race i mean maybe it's a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: point or two apart but it's a race what can
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you tell us.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: It's a three-point race from what i can tell uh
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: tofoya is outpolling republicans i think the massive fraud uh
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: from the somalis is having its impact there locally um And,
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: you know, Peggy Flanagan is a far left socialist aligned
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: candidate in a state that, while has a Democratic base,
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: doesn't have a history of far left progressivism in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: way that perhaps a New York City or New York
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: state might have.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Trump won Ohio in 24 by almost 12 points. I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: am seeing some from a Republican perspective. I'm just asking
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: for your objective view, right? But from a Republican perspective,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: troubling signs in Ohio. Is that overstated? It just feels
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: like if Trump won it by over 10 points, how
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: could we even have a competitive governor's race or Senate seat?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: But it seems like they're certainly both up in contention.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, both are very contentious and very competitive. Again, I'd
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: give Sherrod Brown a clear advantage. I think Ramaswamy is
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: in a neck and neck race. I can't really predict
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: the governor's race, but I think most likely we'll have
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: a return of Sherrod Brown to the U.S. Senate.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Wow. Return of Sherrod Brown to the U.S. Senate.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Do you have any do you have any early opinion,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: by the way, on this one? This is crazy. We're
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: speaking to Doug Schoen. Everybody's been pollster and strategist for
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: 40 years on this. the kamala as a as a
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: candidate and kamala as a nominee there are these stories
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that come out that say oh it's you know um
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: maybe uh doug her husband not you doug doesn't want
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to run and maybe it doesn't she doesn't have the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: fire in the belly but she has the name recognition
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: it's you were sitting down with the Democrat Five Families,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: if you will, to figure out who the nominee should be,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: what do you think the view of Kamala is from
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the power brokers in the party?
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm not quite sure who the Five Families are,
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: but I could probably guess. But here's what I would
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: say to them if they asked.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: I'd say, look, in the trial heats now, she's not
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: getting more than one in four, one in five votes, 25, 26,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: maybe occasionally a little bit more.
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: But she's a weak candidate. She was a bad primary
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: candidate in the past. She was not a good general
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: election candidate in her 107 days. It isn't clear to
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: me on the national stage whether her campaigning for herself
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: in either the primary or the general election, whether she's
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: won herself any votes or any friends or any support.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: So I would tell her to be very skeptical of
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: a future candidacy. The one break that I think she
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: did get is with South Carolina coming first. That gives
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: her a likely but not certain win in the first contest.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Doug Schoen.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you sharing your insights, sir. And we'll see how
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it all shakes out in this election. Thanks for being
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: here with us.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Buck, it's always a pleasure. I look forward to talking soon.
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  Speaker 2: to get to um a very encouraging uh very good
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: news story from the perspective of well of course trump
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: the united states.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Uh the um.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Return of Stephen James Hubbard is underway. He's a 74-year-old
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: American retired English teacher. He was a veteran also from
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Big Rapids, Michigan, detained by Russian forces in Ukraine in
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: April 2022.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And he was convicted as.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: A mercenary in a closed Moscow trial in October 24.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And he has been today released. after a direct request
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: from President Trump to Vladimir Putin. So just a little
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: bit of background on this. Russian forces captured him, captured
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: rather the city of Izium in April of 2022. Hubbard
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was detained then, and Russian authorities allege he had joined
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: a Ukrainian territorial defense unit and received training and was
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: going to be paid for this. They charged him under
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Russian criminal code. His family and his U.S.-based lawyers have
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: completely rejected this. They said the claims were absurd given
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: his age and his reportedly pro-Russian views. His lawyers stated
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: that Hubbard said Russian soldiers simply grabbed him from his house.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: He was not in any combat unit. And so he
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: was just seized, essentially. Sentenced to six years, by the way,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and ten months in a penal colony. I am sure
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: a Russian penal colony is an extremely unpleasant place. But
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: point here is Trump got him released, an American coming
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: home with his family, something here to be grateful for.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Nice work by the president. And this is the president.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: This is cut 20. Here he is talking about this
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: prisoner release.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Play 20. The U.S.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: Is on the verge of a deal to free the
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: American teacher, Stephen Hubbard, from Russia.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Just stick with me. Nobody else was able to do it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Just stick with me. I don't want to talk about it,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: but everybody's been after Hubbard for a long time, long
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: before I got here. And just to remember that question
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: for a couple of days from now, okay? Because I
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: do things that nobody else can do. I hate to
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: say it. So watch what happens. We have been focused
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: on Hubbard. And we don't give six billion dollars like Biden.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: We don't give the number one in history, the number
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: one arms dealer ever in history and get a basketball
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: player back and give six billion on top of it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I've been talking to President Putin about Mr.
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: Hubbard.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I've been talking to him at length. I've asked him
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: to release him. Let's see what happens.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Well, he got released. Well done.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: President Trump, he is, I believe, Hubbard is on the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: way home to his family. This is something that, you know,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I've actually talked to friends about many times over the years,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and they say, you know, as somebody who used to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: be and is publicly known now because of my profile
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in the media and stuff, and I was always, I
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: was an overt employee at the agency, so my affiliation
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: is something that's been out there for a long time
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: at the CIA. There are just countries I won't go to,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: even if I have, the permission of the country to
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: be there. I just won't go because of something like this.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: They can very easily say, well, we think, you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you were formerly a spy. That's the language they would
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: use to describe somebody like me. And they would say,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: we're just going.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: To grab you.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And by the way, not that I'm some important chess
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: piece or something. They grabbed Stephen Hubbard. Nobody ever heard
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of this guy before, but they can grab you And
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: then use you as leverage for other things that they want. And,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Russia is a country that is at the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: very top of the list of doing this. Depending on
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: who you are, I could imagine China would be concerning
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: as well. China could definitely do something like this. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: really make it a habit not to go. Now, obviously,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Hubbard was picked up in Ukraine as part of the
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: when the invasion invasion was happening. Russia was invading sovereign
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: territory of another nation. But I make it a practice.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere where I could get picked up, one,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: for political reasons like that, and two, where the call
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: from the embassy means almost nothing. The call from the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: embassy in Moscow to the Russian authorities, it's not like
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: some Caribbean country we have warm relations with where they're like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: all right, You know, no harm, no foul.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Remember, we did this with the– well, although they went
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: initially and arrested the guy who had, I think, like
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a couple of 9-millimeter bullets in his bag by accident
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: because he had gone shooting. It was truly just a
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: couple of rounds. And I think Turks and Caicos arrested him,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: and he was facing some mandatory prison sentence there. You know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: we can– Get Turks and Caicos to play ball pretty easily.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I think America, we can usually get them to play
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: ball with a reasonable. This is a reasonable thing, right?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It's not, oh, he murdered somebody.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Let him go. No harm, no foul is an accident.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And in Russia, you don't even have to have a
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: situation like that. They picked up Brittany Griner. The Brittany
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Griner thing was different. Trump referenced that. That's where we
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: picked up or we traded, I should say, Victor Bout.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: who is the real-life international arms dealer that the movie
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Lord of War, starring Nicolas Cage, was based on. And, yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: we traded the really number one FBI-wanted arms dealer guy
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: for Brittany Griner, who plays in the WNBA. And a
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: lot of people thought that that was a, to borrow
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: from sports, a lopsided trade. not really the kind of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: trade that we should have been making at that time.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: And Brittany Griner, it was my understanding, she did have
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: marijuana residue on a pipe or something when she went through,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and that's a violation. So they didn't just pick her
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: up completely at random. She actually broke Russian law, which was,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I understand, similar somewhat to the situation in Turks and
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Caicos with.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: The guy with the bullets in his bag.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you, you really, when you're in
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a foreign country, one thing that You should always have
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: in your mind is, does this place actually have a
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: good relationship with America or not? Because that can affect
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of things. It can affect your safety out
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: in the street. It can also affect your ability to
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: freely move around without being detained, picked up.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Harassed. And unless you have a very important professional reason.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: To go somewhere that there can be real problems, I would,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I would personally avoid it. And this is why people
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: ask me, why haven't I been to Russia? I'm not
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: going to Russia because I don't trust the Russians.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't, you know, I don't, I don't find
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: any need or desire to go there.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: And, um i i should say it would be a
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: i actually think it'd be an interesting country i would
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: like i wish i could go to russia without worrying
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: about what vladimir putin and the regime would do because
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: i do think it's an amazing country and there's a
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: lot of history and it's a lot of very beautiful
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: things about it and the russian people are great people
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: in many ways but this current you know the same
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: thing like china is an amazing country been around in
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: different capacities or in different uh iterations it's not really
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: just kind of one china but China's been around for millennia.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of great stuff about China, amazing
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: things to see, but you got a thug government of
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: a thousand communists who run the whole place and can
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: do whatever they want. I had a friend who told me,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: it wasn't long ago, we're actually out on a boat together,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: and he's a wealthy Chinese guy. And he told me
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that even now, if you're wealthy, I mean, he's very wealthy.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: If you're a very wealthy Chinese guy, you.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: May well find yourself.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: In a situation where, well, first of all, you're going
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to have to pay off the Chinese Communist Party, right?
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to stay in their good graces.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: But even though, and I'm not saying he paid off
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: anybody or not, I don't know. But, you know, you're
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: going to have to play the game there, okay? It's
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: a very, very corrupt place. And if you're a big target,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: if you're a big bank, if you will, to be
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: siphoned from, that will happen. He just told me that
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: some local communist boss in a province he was visiting
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: there just locked him up for like 14 days in
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a cell with just basically water and and they didn't
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: even tell him why or anything at the end of
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the day some guy came to sell was like you
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: know you got to wire x millions of dollars to
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: the following bank account we'll let you out that and
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: he's chinese that stuff happens there you know these things
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: happen in these other countries so i bring it up
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: also because You know, I understand this place is imperfect.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I understand that America has its challenges, just like everything
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: is imperfect, right? America has its challenges, but we are
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: still so far ahead of these other places. And, you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: there are these very frustrating moments that can happen in
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: our system. The treatment of some of the J6 prisoners,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: for example, comes to mind where they were just locked up,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: solitary confinement, treated like they were terrorists. They weren't terrorists.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Many of them were entirely nonviolent, but we're America, and
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: so guess what? They were pardoned, and Trump did win,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: and they are free, and 2024 happened. In other countries,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing, what you saw happen to the J6,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: that's daily life. You get on the wrong side of
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: the regime, locked you in a cell, beat you, nothing
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: to be done about it. That's just the way it is.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Your family just gets to weep in quiet. They can't
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: even do it publicly.
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Remember what a great country this is. And something else
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that comes to mind with the release of this individual Hubbard,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump gets results, especially on foreign policy stuff, that
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of other presidents, a lot of other leadership
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: just can't get. This notion, and this is very much within,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I think, what you'd call the Trump doctrine or the
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  Speaker 2: Trump approach, this notion of it's about individual relationships at
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  Speaker 2: the top level and understanding power dynamics. That's not a
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  Speaker 2: crazy notion at all. It's shown itself to work, I think,
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  Speaker 2: in many instances for the president. And it has been
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that he has done that is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely in the face of the so-called experts and the
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  Speaker 2: expert class. And he's shown that you don't actually have
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  Speaker 2: to have a Ph.D. in Near Eastern Studies and speak
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  Speaker 2: Aramaic for example, to be able to negotiate effectively with
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  Speaker 2: Middle Eastern partners. Now, the Russia-Ukraine war hasn't been brought
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  Speaker 2: to an end. Trump has been trying, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that there's been some advancements here with Zelensky now saying
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  Speaker 2: that maybe they're willing.
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  Speaker 1: To freeze the borders where they are.
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  Speaker 2: That's a very difficult conflict to bring to an end
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  Speaker 2: because as long as the Russians think that it's in
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  Speaker 2: their interest to keep going, they're going to keep going.
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  Speaker 2: You can't get them to stop that. So if their
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  Speaker 2: military calculation is we'll get more from more fighting, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to keep fighting. And it's a very hard thing
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  Speaker 2: to shut off. In the meantime, the Ukrainians have gotten
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  Speaker 2: much better at defense over time. Their military has gotten
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  Speaker 2: really armed up and trained up. Now, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that's funding them now, their weapons and everything,
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  Speaker 2: is coming from Europe. By the way, that's Trump. He
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  Speaker 2: wanted to have the Europeans pick up more of the tab,
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  Speaker 2: which is totally fair.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: And we're hoping that this war could be brought to
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  Speaker 2: an end as well. But that one is very tough
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  Speaker 2: because the desire of the Russians and, well, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: the Ukrainians were doing it for their sovereignty and their
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  Speaker 2: sense of themselves as a people. So they're fighting very hard.
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  Speaker 2: And to their credit, they are fighting very hard and
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  Speaker 2: just keep on sacrificing for the perceived or the uh
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