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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of Stu Gottson Company
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  Speaker 2: This is the best of Stu Gottson Company Live on
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  Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great day because we get to speak to
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  Speaker 1: Tim Kirchin. What a great day baseball is right around
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  Speaker 1: the corner that is fantastic. Is this a great game
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  Speaker 1: or what? That's the podcast he does with his son.
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  Speaker 3: Tim for years working at ESPN. We take your word
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  Speaker 3: as gospel with everything baseball. But one time you said
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  Speaker 3: something that is the only time I've ever disagreed with you.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna give you a chance right now.
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  Speaker 4: You better be.
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  Speaker 1: Scare Mikey Hey, I'm telling you right now, be Campbell.
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  Speaker 1: I side with Tim Kirchin. I don't care what good
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  Speaker 1: argument is. I side with Kirchin.
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  Speaker 3: They were ranking the best pitches in baseball, and ahead
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  Speaker 3: of Mariano Rivera's cutter, you had ubaldo him as his fastball,
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  Speaker 3: and I just want to know right now, was that
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  Speaker 3: a prisoner of the moment thing? Or is that or
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  Speaker 3: does Tim Kirchin still believe you Baldo him and as
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  Speaker 3: his heavy fastball was better than Marianna rivers you on
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  Speaker 3: the spot to me, Oh my.
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  Speaker 5: God, well, I must have been drunk when I said that, because.
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  Speaker 4: It is You're never drunk.
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  Speaker 6: Baldo Jmenez.
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  Speaker 5: Baldo Jimenez had an amazing first half of a season
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  Speaker 5: years ago and people were actually saying, he has a
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  Speaker 5: pitch that nobody has ever seen before and ever thrown before,
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  Speaker 5: to which I was sitting with Oral Herscheizer at the time,
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  Speaker 5: who knows a little bit about pitching. He looked at
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  Speaker 5: me and he goes, Tim, there is no pitch that
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  Speaker 5: is being thrown today that.
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  Speaker 6: Has never been thrown before.
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  Speaker 5: So if I said that I was I was wrong
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  Speaker 5: by one hundred miles.
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  Speaker 6: That guy had great stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But Mariano's cutter is arguably the greatest pitch because it's
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  Speaker 5: really the only pitch she threw. He's the greatest closer
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  Speaker 5: of all time. There is not a close second. I
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  Speaker 5: will tell you though, that Paul Richards the one of
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  Speaker 5: the great baseball men of all time. I really got
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  Speaker 5: to know him in eighty two when he was with
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  Speaker 5: the Rangers as the assistant general manager. He told me
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  Speaker 5: that Hoyt Wilhelm's knuckleball was the greatest pitch in the
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  Speaker 5: history of baseball, because he said the umpire couldn't call it,
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  Speaker 5: the catcher couldn't catch it, and the hitter couldn't hit
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  Speaker 5: it when Hoyt Wilhelm threw his great knuckleball.
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  Speaker 6: But since I never saw that like I.
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  Speaker 5: Saw Mariano's, I will say Mariano's cutter is the best
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  Speaker 5: pitch in the history of baseball. I stand corrected. I
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  Speaker 5: don't ever remember saying that. If I did, I apologize,
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  Speaker 5: I mean this vulture. I hey, Jesus, he said it
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  Speaker 5: in the moment. Who cares?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, tim, When was the last time you were hammered?
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever been hammered?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, of course I have.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a grown man, but it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't It doesn't do me any good. I weigh
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and forty pounds. I can't I can't hold anything.
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  Speaker 5: I get buzzed very easily, which is why I don't
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  Speaker 5: drink very often, because it doesn't do me any good.
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  Speaker 5: But and my voice goes to a different octave when
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  Speaker 5: I get that way, and it's already at a preposterously
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  Speaker 5: high octave to begin with, so I try to stay
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  Speaker 5: away from it.
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  Speaker 4: Tim.
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  Speaker 8: First off, I just want to say I love you.
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  Speaker 8: I love baseball, consider myself in the same mold of
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  Speaker 8: just somebody who loves baseball. Growing up, my girlfriend asked
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  Speaker 8: me what did I want to do on my birthday?
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  Speaker 8: I told her I want tickets to the World Baseball
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  Speaker 8: Classic and I want to watch sixty one. Where would
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  Speaker 8: you say sixty one ranks as a baseball movie because,
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  Speaker 8: in my opinion, one of the most underrated bass great quests.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, it is the second greatest baseball movie
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  Speaker 5: of all time. Wow, Field of Dreams, Dreams this one
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  Speaker 5: and always will be. And without sounding corny about this,
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  Speaker 5: that story was about a father and a son, and
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  Speaker 5: nobody loved his father more than I did.
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  Speaker 6: He taught me.
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  Speaker 5: Everything I needed to know about baseball and everything else.
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  Speaker 5: I took my father to see that movie. We cried
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  Speaker 5: like babies. I cry every time I watch it. So
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  Speaker 5: that will always be the best baseball movie of all
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  Speaker 5: time for me. But sixty one was tremendous because of
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  Speaker 5: its attention to detail. So speaking of Hoit Wilhelm, Billy
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  Speaker 5: Crystal God Tom Candiotti to play Hoit Wilhelm in the movie.
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  Speaker 6: And Tom Candiotti, a.
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  Speaker 5: Knuckleball pitcher, just been released and he was pissed about
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  Speaker 5: just being released. So he comes to the movie shooting
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  Speaker 5: and Billy says to him that Tom, I want this
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  Speaker 5: has to be the most genuine movie. So I want
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  Speaker 5: you to throw your best knuckle ball, no matter what.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, Billy, Tommy Zaane whatever his name is
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  Speaker 5: in the show, I forget which one was Mickey and
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  Speaker 5: which was Roger.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry about that. I love that movie.
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  Speaker 5: So Tom Candiotti is now throwing his knuckleball as they're filming,
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  Speaker 5: and the first fifty knuckleballs that he throws, Tommy Jane,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, couldn't hit it.
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  Speaker 6: He couldn't hit it. He couldn't even come close because
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  Speaker 6: neither co you guys, and neither could I. It's a knuckleball.
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  Speaker 5: So Billy has to come to the mound. Tommy Jane,
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  Speaker 5: I think that's his name.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, Thomas Jane played Mantle.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, So he comes to the Billy comes to
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  Speaker 5: the mound during the filming and says, Tom, Okay, we
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  Speaker 5: have a problem here. It's called It's called tape we
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  Speaker 5: don't have enough tape for you to keep throwing knuckleball,
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  Speaker 5: so throw like a softer knuckleball.
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  Speaker 6: One that he might hit. So he throws like twenty
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  Speaker 6: of those.
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  Speaker 5: He still can't hit it, and he hits Tommy Jane
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  Speaker 5: with a pitch and knocks, and now the entire crew
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  Speaker 5: has run out, thinking that Tom Candiotty killed.
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  Speaker 6: The star of the show because he hit him with
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  Speaker 6: a pitch.
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  Speaker 5: So Tommy Jane is lying there and tom Candiotty looks
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  Speaker 5: down at him and says, I threw that pitch at
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  Speaker 5: fifty miles an hour. And Tommy Jane said that means
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  Speaker 5: I should get up right, And he said, yeah, you
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  Speaker 5: should get up now. So he saved the day by
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  Speaker 5: throwing a softer knuckleball, but he never did put the
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  Speaker 5: ball in play. All they needed was a ball put
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  Speaker 5: in play, and he couldn't do it. So finally Billy Crystal,
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  Speaker 5: using the magic of photography, rolled the ball up the
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  Speaker 5: first base line and made it look like he actually
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  Speaker 5: hit it when he really didn't. That's another reason I
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  Speaker 5: love sixty one because it was just so authentic.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, what an answer for Taylor. I mean, Tim, you
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  Speaker 1: love baseball more than anyone. I know you care about
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  Speaker 1: this game. You know the game better than anyone, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm certain that the thought of a workstopage drives you crazy.
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  Speaker 7: But are we headed towards well?
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask it this way, Ted, do you think
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  Speaker 1: there should be a salary cap at Major League Baseball?
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  Speaker 1: And do you think we'll ever arrive at a place
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  Speaker 1: where we have a salary cap in Major League Baseball?
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  Speaker 6: All Right?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna have a salary cap anytime soon.
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  Speaker 5: If you can prove to me that a salary cap
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  Speaker 5: will make the game better than I will be on board.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm not sold on that, Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Stu Gott's I covered the eighty one strike that was
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  Speaker 5: forty five years ago, and we're still arguing pretty much about.
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  Speaker 6: The same thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and if the owners think that the players are
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  Speaker 5: going to agree to a salary cap, they are mistake.
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  Speaker 5: And if they hold out until they get a salary cap,
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  Speaker 5: we will definitely have a work stoppage in twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 5: and who.
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  Speaker 6: Knows how long it could last.
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  Speaker 5: I spoke to someone the other day who would probably
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  Speaker 5: know better than a lot of people where we are,
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  Speaker 5: and he said, I have never seen the two sides
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  Speaker 5: this far apart with you know, eight, ten eleven months
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  Speaker 5: away from where.
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  Speaker 6: We have to get to.
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  Speaker 5: So I was very discouraged to hear that I want
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  Speaker 5: no part of a work stoppage. Baseball should want no
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  Speaker 5: part of a work stoppage. But at the moment it
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  Speaker 5: is not looking good.
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  Speaker 8: Tim Nobody would argue I don't think that the Dodgers
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  Speaker 8: are the best team on paper this season as we
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  Speaker 8: get closer to opening Day, But who would you argue
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  Speaker 8: as the second best team in baseball?
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  Speaker 6: That is a great question.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I think the Phillies have a chance to be really,
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  Speaker 5: really good, but a few things have to turn that
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  Speaker 5: as Zach Wheeler has to come back earlier in the
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  Speaker 5: expected and then be great the whole year. That's a
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  Speaker 5: lot to ask. I'm not sure there is a great
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  Speaker 5: team in the American League, but I just I just
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  Speaker 5: saw Seattle and the Mariners pitching is so so good
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  Speaker 5: starting pitching especially, and they added to their lineup, so
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  Speaker 5: they might be the best team in the American League.
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  Speaker 5: And I just saw the Tigers, and the Tigers have
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  Speaker 5: really good starting pitching led by Trek Scooble and now
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  Speaker 5: from Ervaldez, So I would say, right now it would
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  Speaker 5: be it would be the Phillies, the Tigers, or the Mariners.
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  Speaker 6: So I have to pick one.
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  Speaker 5: I'll say Seattle is the second best team in baseball
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 7: Tim, How do you feel about what the Mets did
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  Speaker 7: here in the offseason? Do the Mets get a lot better?
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  Speaker 5: They'll be They'll be a lot better than last year
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  Speaker 5: when they were obviously a disappointment. It does worry me
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  Speaker 5: a little bit for their sake that they have added
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  Speaker 5: so many new.
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  Speaker 6: People to the team.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to take a little while to figure out
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  Speaker 5: if you know, Polanco can play first base and Boba
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  Speaker 5: Schett can play third base?
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  Speaker 6: And how injured is Francisco Lindor.
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  Speaker 5: He says he'll be back on opening day, but that
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  Speaker 5: hammate bone is a tricky situation. A new center fielder
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  Speaker 5: in Luis Roberts, So I just don't know if I
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  Speaker 5: think they have a real chance to be a playoff
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  Speaker 5: team in the National League. So that makes them better
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  Speaker 5: than last year. I just worry when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: corny things like chemistry. Did they add too many pieces?
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  Speaker 5: Are all the pieces going to fit together at.
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  Speaker 6: The right time? That's where I think we are with
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  Speaker 6: the Mets.
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  Speaker 7: Timmy.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get you out here in just a second. Do
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  Speaker 1: you love the World Baseball Classic? It's somewhat. It feels
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  Speaker 1: so much different than regular season.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously, Yeah, I love it. Stu Gotts.
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  Speaker 5: It has grown on me. At the beginning, I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: sure about it. You know, how is this going to
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  Speaker 5: work in spring training? We're stealing guys from teams? Are
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  Speaker 5: they going to play their best? Are they going to
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  Speaker 5: play their hardest? But it has won me over the
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  Speaker 5: last one did I covered a bunch of games at
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  Speaker 5: Chase Field in Arizona, and it was like I would
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  Speaker 5: go outside after the game and it was like there
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  Speaker 5: was a party taking place on the streets of Phoenix
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  Speaker 5: after that because the people, even with teams that weren't
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  Speaker 5: winning this thing, we're just so excited to be there
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  Speaker 5: and support their country. And now that I believe the
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  Speaker 5: Americans are now in with both feet trying to win
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  Speaker 5: this thing, and with the Dominicans and with the Japanese,
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  Speaker 5: oh my god, what a great thing this will be.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, I love the WBC. It has grown on me.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great idea. I just hope nobody gets hurt
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  Speaker 5: and affects the regular Major league season.
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  Speaker 4: Final question, I get youat here.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor sent me a video before Otani had five RBIs
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  Speaker 1: and was a triple shy of the cycle in the
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  Speaker 1: second inning. Is sho Otani the greatest baseball player you've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen?
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  Speaker 7: Tim?
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  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people saying it, Timmy. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm asking you. I know I did.
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  Speaker 5: I saw Willie Mays, and Willie Mays did it for
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  Speaker 5: twenty years, so I'm still gonna go with Willie Mays.
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  Speaker 5: But there's never been anybody like show A. And I
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  Speaker 5: always say Babe Ruth is the greatest player of all time.
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  Speaker 5: I still believe that based on his dominance pitching and
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  Speaker 5: hitting when he played. But there's never been anybody like
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  Speaker 5: show A. Someday I believe he will be the greatest
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  Speaker 5: player of all time, and that day is coming soon.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Babe Ruth was great. I really believe in
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  Speaker 5: nineteen twenty, if there was a DH in the American League,
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  Speaker 5: Babe Ruth would have hit fifty homers in won twenty games.
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  Speaker 5: But he didn't throw one hundred miles an hour. He
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  Speaker 5: didn't hit pitches routine thrown at one hundred miles an hour,
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  Speaker 5: and I hate eggs and velocity. But he didn't hit
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  Speaker 5: the ball off the bat quite as hard as show
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  Speaker 5: A did. So that's why there's never been anyone like him,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't think there will ever be anybody like
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  Speaker 5: him again.
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  Speaker 6: It's remarkable.
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  Speaker 5: Every single day I watch him play, it is breath taking.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, well there's nobody like you. Is this a great
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  Speaker 1: game or what? That's the podcast? Check it out wherever
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  Speaker 1: you get your podcast. He does it with his son.
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  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. They talk baseball, they talk, you know, about
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  Speaker 1: their relationship, and they talk about some fun stuff on there.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very good listen.
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  Speaker 1: Timmy love you, miss you appreciate the time. No, you
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  Speaker 1: got a run, but I'm excited because baseball's around the.
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  Speaker 7: Corner and that means more. Tim Kirschin on my television.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, thanks for having me, Fellaws see you soon.
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  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company
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  Speaker 2: Live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.
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  Speaker 4: What a crazy twenty four hours. It's Ben Monsey in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA. Because you heard Ryan Bersinger say that Jason
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  Speaker 4: Tatum is on the verge. Of returning tonight for the
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  Speaker 4: Celtics from his achilles injury. But it's also what happened
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  Speaker 4: last night in the NBA that makes his twenty four
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  Speaker 4: hours just a whirlwind of chaos in the association.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like in the last twenty four hours we
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  Speaker 9: can label the NBA the good, the bad.
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  Speaker 10: And the funny. Ooh interesting, you know, not lovely, the funny.
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  Speaker 4: Iowa Samdy like that the good, the bad, and the funny,
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  Speaker 4: and I do He's cant. I didn't think there. Even
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  Speaker 4: if he wasn't listening, he would he would have agreed
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  Speaker 4: with whatever Manzi said.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely, there's no.
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  Speaker 4: Doubt about that. It is also March sixth, so we
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  Speaker 4: are really sliding in the March madness. And an hour
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  Speaker 4: from now, March madness hit the state of Iowa like
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  Speaker 4: you wouldn't believe. And right now the state of Iowa
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  Speaker 4: is feeding off of that March madness because Drake is
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  Speaker 4: leading Belmont in Arch madness. This is my favorite conference
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  Speaker 4: tournament of the year, the Missouri Valley Conference. I was
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  Speaker 4: off yesterday and I was wh Drake against Southern Illinois
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  Speaker 4: play into this portion of the bracket. It's in Saint
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  Speaker 4: Louis yes, the Missouri Valley Conference and while the schools
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  Speaker 4: have changed, the arch madness has not. But we'll keep
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  Speaker 4: you up to date on everything that has happened. You
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  Speaker 4: want to know what ticks me off about the Jason
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  Speaker 4: Tatum return tonight? Doesn't really tick me off, but just
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  Speaker 4: kind of irks me a bit.
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  Speaker 10: What this is? Uh, I think the bad?
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  Speaker 4: This is the bad. Let's be real. If you follow
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  Speaker 4: the NBA, if you like the NBA, even if you're
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  Speaker 4: an NBA casual, you have disdain for the Boston Celtics.
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  Speaker 4: Like they are just they are not a team that
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  Speaker 4: you're like, yeah, I kind of like them. They just
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  Speaker 4: you don't like you're either a diehard Celtics fan or
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  Speaker 4: you just don't like the Boston Celtics. And this season
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  Speaker 4: was the exception to that rule because with Jason Tatum
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  Speaker 4: going down with this injury, last year, you had Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Brown being the only superstar. They reset. There's no more
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  Speaker 4: porzingis no more Drew Holiday. And I think going into
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  Speaker 4: the season, at least I was expecting I wasn't expecting
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  Speaker 4: much from Boston this year, and in fact, Manci, I
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  Speaker 4: even thought, maybe Boston's just gonna kind of throw on
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  Speaker 4: the towel and see what they can do draft wise
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  Speaker 4: and add another piece, and then they'll just be back
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  Speaker 4: up near the top of the East in the next season.
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  Speaker 4: But what happens is Peyton Pritchard's playing out of his mind.
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  Speaker 4: They end up them making some trade deadline deals, and
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  Speaker 4: now they're getting Jason Tatum back, and they completely in
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  Speaker 4: the short window that you could say, look at the field,
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  Speaker 4: good Celtics shorthanded with no Tatum, and they let go
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  Speaker 4: of the veterans. They're just they're the little engine that could.
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  Speaker 4: And now here they are in the Eastern Conference with
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  Speaker 4: the return of Jason Tatum. And whether it works or
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  Speaker 4: not we will find out over the next couple of months.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the prevailing sentiment is that Boston is
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  Speaker 4: now there to take the East and to overtake the
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  Speaker 4: Detroit Pistons. And so any feel good moment that you
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  Speaker 4: had with the Boston Celtics that I admittedly, even as
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  Speaker 4: a Milwaukee Bucks fan who the Bucks are falling on
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  Speaker 4: their face this season, it was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of neat to see what Boston's doing, completely
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  Speaker 4: wiped out, erased. Now that Jason Tatum is back in
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  Speaker 4: Boston and set to play a night against the MAVs,
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  Speaker 4: likely making them the favorite in the East.
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  Speaker 9: I think that's a really good way to put it,
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: because it's like, I don't I don't hate the Celtics,
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: but I definitely don't like them, right, Like that's I'm
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: not rooting for the Celtics.
• 17:30
  Speaker 10: I don't. I don't like them, I don't hate them.
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: I'm not a Laker fan, so it's I don't have that,
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: but I definitely am not a person that's rooting for
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: the Celtics.
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: But this season watching them, you're like, Wow, good for you.
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: Like you said Peyton.
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: Fritchard coming uh was a coming off the bench last
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: season as a starter. Now Jalen Brown saying this is
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: his funnest season ever, not the season where he won
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: a championship and was the NBA Finals MVP. This is
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: his most favorite season. They're having fun and they got
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: on a nice little run. There was like a few
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: games at the start of season you were like, Okay,
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: how is this team going to survive this season? I
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: also with you, thought that maybe they would just throw
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: in the towel and see what comes out of it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: They're in second place in the Eastern Conference right now,
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: and I think only three teams from both the East
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: and the West have a better record than the Celtics.
• 18:14
  Speaker 10: They're doing really well.
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: I think it's a bad idea to bring Jason Tatum
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: back into.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: The mix, messing up the chemistry.
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: Messing up the chemistry. Also, it seems rushed.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: I'm no medical expert, but this is a really serious injury.
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: There is always a risk of you getting injured again.
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: And not that anybody wants off for Jason Tatum, but
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: why the rush to come back so quickly, especially.
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: Because Jason Tatum, you are an NBA champion. There is
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: nothing that you need. Maybe you want that champion, MVP Finals, MVP,
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: but you are an.
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: NBA champion and you're gonna come in and it's not
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: like you're coming in as like a six man. You're
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: coming in trying to put yourself back into the star
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: rotation because you are Jason Tatum.
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: Why would you want this If you're.
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: Boston things are going well, preserve Jason Tatum and make
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: sure that he's one hundred and ten percent healthy, not
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: just ninety percent, because you don't need him.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: You know the you know the answer to it is
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Jason Tatum doesn't want to feel left out, But you
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: can't have follow You're already a champion. If they if
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: they win, or if they win successfully and move on,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: and who knows, maybe without him they end up making
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: a run to the NBA finals. That there's there's that
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: fomo and look, they did it without him and it
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: becomes expendable. It's we talk about it all the time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: For sure.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: What would be worse though you you have Fomo or
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: you come in and disrupt everything and you are the
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: reason why the Celtics fall apart.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I think that is worse, But I don't think that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: how he thinks. Yeah. Probably, I don't think that he
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: is worried about that. I also think that his confidence
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: and by the way, if it was up to the
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Celtics to just be like, hey, why don't you hold on,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you know, hold off a little bit on this, then
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: you can end up building friction. I think it's totally
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: up to Jason Tatum to be honest with you, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: so I just don't think that that's in his his
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: thought process that it could actually fail. When I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of people are saying it's gonna fail and
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: maybe either for Boston to be careful what you wish for.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to say Boston falls on their
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: face like you're saying they're gonna do with Jason Tatum
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: because there is no chemistry. But I think that would
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: be something that a lot of us would be rooting for.
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: It would be a great story. We would love to
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: talk about that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: It would be great for us, absolutely, But it's like
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: you're again, You're coming in to be the guy again, right,
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: You're not coming in to try and insert yourself as
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: the number four, number five option. And I don't know
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: how Jalen Brown.
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: Is gonna feel about this. This is gonna change perspective
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: on the side.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: We know Jalen Brown probably feels about this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: It just is it really worth it?
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: And I look at it as a business decision for Boston.
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: You're you're right, this is all Jason Tatum.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: He's he does not want to miss he doesn't want
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: them to win without him.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: But it's like, you're already a champion, and I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: know if it's worth the risk.
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: Look at it like a business decision and protecting your
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: number one asset.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I think he's the less champion of any of the
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: champions that we've had, Like even SGA's championship, I think
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: is more SGA for Oklahoma City, like Denver Jokic, the
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Bucks had Giannis and this Raptors were Kawhi. You take
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: all of those players in rank them, Jason Tatum's last
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: in that list, and I think that there is a
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: feeling of that. It's why he tried to copy every
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: NBA superstar with all of their stuff, like there's there's
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: something with that. But Jason Tatum's a great player. To
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: your point about how the chemistry is going to play
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: out now that he's with Boston, I think that makes
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: them the favorites. I hope the Pistons turn into the
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: bad boy Pistons and Kate Cunningham Durns the you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas and Isaiah Stewart's Bill Lambier if he isn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: already and set the tone. But when I heard Jason
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Tatum coming, it was coming back. I'm like, all right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: you go, Pistons. Because I was like the one year
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: of the Yankees when Judge was a rookie and they
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: didn't spend and they had a bunch of young players.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I bring this up it was the one year like
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: you could be a Yankees fan and then Judge's you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year, you know, monster numbers, and then
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: they go back to being the Yankees. You're like, okay,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I hate them. That's kind of how I feel about
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics. Now the Lakers. The Lakers another brand,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: a bigger which I think bigger than the Boston Celtics.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Lebron James is always a topic. Here's the question, what
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the heck happened to Lebron last night in Denver? Because
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: when you look at the foul that happened on committed
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: by Nicola Jokich. I watched the replay three times and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: had no idea which elbow he actually hurt.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: Well, he had to grab both just to make sure
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: because he was thinking which way did I land?
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: Which one?
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: I'll just grab both elbows at the same time and
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: roll for a second and then figure it out.
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: It was so funny.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Do you see this? Do you guys see this last time?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Him rolling on the court with his hands covering his elbows.
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: Didn't even touch him, No, she didn't even touch him.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: He gets the layup in falls to the floor, but
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: grabs both elbows like he's rocking a baby.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, so this is so just just to recap, we're
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: not even we're not even halfway through. Lebron somehow it
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: hurts elbows last night and we don't even know which
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: one it is. It could he could be out for
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: two weeks and we have no idea what happened to
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: him last night in Denver. He was a record center.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: We'll get to that later on on the show. He
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: did set a new NBA record last night. So then
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Jason Tatum's coming back wenbs thirty eight and sixteen against
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the aforementioned Pistons.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: So, by the way, the funny was Lebron James of
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: the Good the Battle the funny, Yes, Lebron James is
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: the funny.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: The good is Victor one by all Right you like that?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, no, great, but nobody cares.
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: Nobody cares.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: How about Trey Young? You know, Trey Young debuted last
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: night against the Jazz The Wizard's lost. Trey Young made
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: his season debut, scored twelve points and then like it
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: told Sports Center like you're gonna I think it was
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Sports Center. I forgot the clip, but they asked, like,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: what can we expect and he's like, I'm gonna show
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: you and not tell you. And I'm like, nobody's watching
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Wizards games. No one is. Why don't you just tell us.
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: And save social media after the fact final You're gonna
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: watch the highlights.
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: That's what it means.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I mean they lost to the Jazz last night, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the biggest story was that Trey Young has made his
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: debut at twelve points to nineteen minutes, and I anytime
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: not watching the Washington Wizards is time well spent for me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: So I am not going to be watching. I wish
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Trey Young just would have told us. I also wish
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: it is this is Russell Westbrook, the good, the bad,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the funny.
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: He's all of it. You don't know what you're gonna
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: get from it, but he's another bad.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, this is where we're gonna land this plane because
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: it was late last night in the cloak of darkness
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: where Russell Westbrook all of a sudden had this all
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: out attack. And this is a snippet of it. This
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is a six minute exchange, an attack on the media
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: in the great City of Sacramento.
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: You don't I'll compete. This is a game.
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: You're a professional guard and play and that's all you
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: can do, which I think though, because y'all got a
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: lot of answers and you'll always be talking.
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: Oh, it's very interesting. Nobody y'all don't got no. No,
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: you guys have a lot of opinions about how we do,
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: what we're doing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: What you got no you yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 12: You make a lot of statements and broad statements that
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: you have no context. So where do you get your
• 25:29
  Speaker 12: contexts from? Are you in practice? Are you at our
• 25:32
  Speaker 12: film session? Are you anywhere around the building?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 25:37
  Speaker 12: No, I haven't seen that practice. So the false context
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: of and actually, do you know me? No, you don't
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: know me. You don't know me. You don't know me,
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: but you make a lot of comments as though you
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: do know me.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: I'm a bunch of basketball.
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: No, no, no, you don't mind intent. I see it,
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: I see it anybody else. Do you guys have any
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: comments about how we play?
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: What?
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: What are we doing?
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: You guys are quiet today, but you guys have a
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: lot of comments when the game's going on, after the game,
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: what we're doing, when we should be doing, how we
• 26:06
  Speaker 12: should be doing it. I'm confused, so am I?
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here. You must have in our.
• 26:15
  Speaker 12: Film session too.
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: I'm not on your film session, but you guys have
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: the worst record in the NBA.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Six minutes of that, and when actually Russell Westbrook was
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: questioned about it, he didn't have actual receipts on what
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: people were saying. But imagine this, You just spent your
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: night away from your family having to take in Sacramento
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Kings basketball, and you get dressed down by Russell Westbrook
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: for what you're saying in a postgame or an after game,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: in a blog, on a radio station, in a newspaper,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: whatever the case may be, after you lose to the
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: New Orleans Pelicans by ten. I just have no idea
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: where Russell Westbrook is going. I don't think he had
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: receipts Manci, and the fact that he's wondering why reporters
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: aren't at practice or in film rooms, it's just it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: so ridiculous, and it felt like Russell Westbrook just wanted
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: to leave with his pound of flesh and this poor
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: innocent grouping who again had to endure two hours of
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: King's basketball then ended up getting scolded afterwards. What an
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: awful evening for anybody that covers the Sacramento Okay, yeah, a.
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: Lot of bad, A lot of bad, not a lot
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: of good, and very little funny. But that I think
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: it came from somewhere real. It's just so he jumped
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: the shark, Like I'm sure I feel like Russell Westbrook
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: based on what we know about him in his history,
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: he seems to be the guy to read comments, to
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: read things that are being written about him and the team,
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: and so obviously I think it does come from somewhere
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: that he read something is real.
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: But then he jumped the shark with all of the
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: scolding and like, are you at practice?
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: But like you said, some people can't go into your practice, right,
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: they're not allowed to be there. Actually only maybe, like
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: your beat reporters are those who are part of your team,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: but you know, the people that are covering you from afar.
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: All they can tell you is that your team is
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: not good.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Fourteen and fifty, you're.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: Not good, Like it has to be frustrating for if
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: you're Russell Westbrook.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I also left that exchange still not understanding what Russell
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Westbrook wanted, and then we didn't play the whole thing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you wanted some grace for some
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: of the younger players and what they're going through. But
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: it wasn't necessarily explained that way. It just felt like
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: it was an all out assault on the Kings and
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: what is happening with the Kings on the court that
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook had no receipts for Jason Stewart.
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: I remember reading a piece in his rookie year. So
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: he came out of UCLA as just kind of this
• 28:45
  Speaker 14: athletic guy and everything, but I don't think he was
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: like a polished basketball player yet. But I remember a
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: piece in SI and the reason I read it remember
• 28:55
  Speaker 14: it is because we had him on the Jim Rome
• 28:57
  Speaker 14: Show soon after, and I remember the author of the
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: piece put up perfectly that Russell Westbrook treats every question
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: from the media like it's an accusation. And think about that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 14: I think that's twenty years ago, whenever he came out
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: and was a rookie. So over twenty years, this guy
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: has not learned that these battles with the media does
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: nothing but make him look like a jerk. You would
• 29:21
  Speaker 14: think that over time he would have some kind of
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: a nuanced relationship with the media and fans. By the way,
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: because last year he made news for picking fights with
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: fans and that whole Westbrook thing, like this guy hasn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: learned anything over twenty years.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: No, And I'll tell you what. There are some media
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: markets this happens way more in college than it does
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: in the pros. But Sacramento. And it's not to say
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: that Sacramento is a small town. The point is they're
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: the only show in town. So when the only show
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: in town is fourteen and fifty, sometimes the team has
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: a lot to say. When you get in some college towns,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: the university and let's just say the Kansas Mend's basketball
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: program like that runs the news in Lauren. Whatever is
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: happening is about Kansas basketball. And it's actually difficult to
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: be a reporter in those spots because, and I'm just
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: using Kansas as an example, the university dominates so much.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Then if you have a descending or a comment that
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: isn't pro university or pro the athletics, it's a tough
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: spot to be as a reporter. Now, try to be
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: in Sacramento when your team's fourteen and fifty and doing
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: your job, like there's what else are you gonna talk about?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: You're gonna talk about the A's upcoming season, For like
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: what like it is a it is a tough spot.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: So for Russell Westbrook to attack the media like that,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: and if it was in New York, or if it
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: was in Philadelphia, or if it was in DC or Chicago,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: you could actually maybe signe with Russell Westbrook a little bit,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: but there's just no way in signing and why he's
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: trying to take it out on the Sacramento media totally.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: I again, I like Russell Westbrook and hearing this, it
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: was like, what do you want them to say? Good?
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: Good try?
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: Like it's almost like he wants like a good job
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: for trying, but it's like, no, you've looked bad.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: You've looked not you, Russell Westbrook.
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: The Kings have looked bad this entire season, and then
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: with all the injuries.
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: I don't even know who plays alongside Russell Westbrook, you
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. Everybody else is injured.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: So I just it just seemed like he wanted the
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: reports or the stories to be like, yeah, the Kings
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: aren't good, but boy are they trying.
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: They're really trying.
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: They're going out there every day and it's like, but
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: that's again, I love Russell Westbrook, and it didn't make them.
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: Look good at all.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Have your ownership in GM's fight those battles. And I
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: understand that there's a responsibility as a VET, but I
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: also felt like he wanted that conflict. I saw a
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: TikTok of a guy wanting to fight someone in a
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: parking lot with a whole group around him for three
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and a half minutes, and he just danced around and
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: did some like you know, karate short of moves. There
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: was zero fight whatsoever. And that's what it felt was.
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: That's what it felt like.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: With Russell Westbrook. There's your twenty four hours in the NBA.
• 31:54
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• 31:57
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• 32:38
  Speaker 4: the end of that interview with Stu gotts In calling
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Shohei Otani the second best baseball player he's ever seen?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Is that proper way to put it? Yep?
• 32:52
  Speaker 14: Stu Austin if he's the best player he's ever seen.
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: And Tim said, I was able to see Willie Mays
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: play baseball, and Willie did it for twenty years. So
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: until show Hey puts more years up, he's gonna stick
• 33:05
  Speaker 14: with Willy.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Now, that's tough for any of us to weigh in
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: on Willie May's right, but I do think that overwhelmingly
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Like with show Hey, now, I don't know, I don't know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: like the pushback, like it's either Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: or Willie Mays that we're pushing back. Maybe Mickey Mantle.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: But the conversation of show Hey and what he's done
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: so far, I think he's probably top five easily.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: I think if he were to say I'm done today
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: after this World Baseball Classic, I'm done playing baseball forever.
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna go be a dad to my kids and
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: my pop and be a husband, he would top five,
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: no question. He's the greatest player I've ever seen. There's
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: no question about it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I think he's really old.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: He's the greatest player I've ever seen.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: But it kind of is this kind of like the
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: situation in the NBA with like Nicola Jokic, Like Nicola
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: Jokic is the best basketball.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: Player, but I don't know if people say he's any
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: sort of goat.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: But I think it's different, you know, Like, yeah, like
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I basketball, we have the Lebron and Jordan conversation, right,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: and they're while they're not in the same generation, they're
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: in back to back generations. It's tough when Willie Mays
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: is playing in the nineteen sixties and he's playing in
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, right, So that's like, that's the tough
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: part about it. But that's also what makes baseball like
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: so intriguing in what it For so long it was
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: baseball was appealing because of the history and the history
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: behind it. Football I think you could have certain arguments,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: but the problem with football is there's so many different
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: positions and so many different players. There are players who
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: have you know, grabbed your attention for a while in
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: the National Football League. But it's just difficult to me.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: It's difficult to compare Lawrence Taylor to Joe Montana, right, Like,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they played the same era, but
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: they're different positions, different sides of the ball, completely different
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: skill set. You know, how are we going to compare
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: those two? It's different in baseball when you've got someone
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: plays like Show he doesn't adding pitching to his ruppertoire,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: but Willie Mays maybe better defensively in those scenarios, but also.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: A different position.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, Like even with that, it's also you're comparing
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: a little bit different.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: But no, he's I like, he still makes me my
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: jaw drop sho Tani.
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: Just when I think I'm like he can't possibly match
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: this moment, he does another moment.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: Like I just it's incredible.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think with the World Baseball Classic,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: like he hit a Grand Slam last night, Jason, he
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: said it was all over social media. Oh yeah, and
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what did he homer off someone from Great Britain?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know, And you said they played Chinese type.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Had no disrespect to those But we've seen shohy other
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: big moments come up big so a Grand Slam last night,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: but it was yeah of the drama right right, yes,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: where it's always a show and that's and there are
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: very few players that can have that aspect of it.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: You have shows, you have your show hate and Manzi
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: is choking Manci Milanios. Do we have a medic here
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: on Stutatson Company here on Fox Sports right now?
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: I got excited when you said showtime because that's what
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: my shirt said, and then I got too excited and
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: I swallowed spit the wrong way.
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: That's what happened.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Do we have Do we have Stephen Nelson's call from
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Fox Sports one last night, because it's gonna lead us
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: into By the way, Stephen Nelson's call second best call
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: we saw in sports yesterday. You're gonna hear number one.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Do we have Stephen Nelson's call from last night? By
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the way, if you missed it, it was our Tirek
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Play of the Day earlier today, So this was Stephen
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Nelson calling show Hayes home run against Chinese type that
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: you won.
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: Now, oh, Tony, it is old Tony.
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: To his own tire.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Crazy. You can get goosebumps for that, right and hearing
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: the crowd in the situation. Jason, how many views did
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it have?
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: I think it's been like literally shared a billion times around.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Thee I saw it was at eighteen million. I mean
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: that's a lot for one post.
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: So if you take the aggregate of every single social
• 37:15
  Speaker 14: media entity, I think it's been shared a billion times.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Well, Iowa Sam's picture of his girlfriend's backyard in the shed,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: which tomorrow is the one year anniversary of that picture,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: got about five thousand weeks vacations. But compared compared to
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: the show, Hey, it's just pales in comparison. But this
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: is there's something that happened in Iowa yesterday that has
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with a shed or a backyard that
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: looks like holand in World War two, it doesn't look
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: it's just dark in drab. Remember that picture. Let me
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: tell you said that, Yes, World War two very dark.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It was a room that's march in Iowa for you, you
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: don't see the sun last night in Iowa there was
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: a high school state basketball game, a semi final game.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: You know these schools, you know Norwalk, YEP? Is it
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: DC Grimes? Is that Dallas Center Grind. I think they're
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: I want to say they're two A. They play two
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: A level. DC g was down four points with thirty
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: five seconds to go, and this is how it sounded.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it on the Iowa State High School
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Basketball Network. This is how it sounded.
• 38:18
  Speaker 16: Baseline inbounds A lot of times that could set up
• 38:20
  Speaker 16: a two point basket pretty quickly.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: If you need one, you gotta get it in.
• 38:24
  Speaker 16: Though they do go for the quick two on the
• 38:26
  Speaker 16: baseline inbounds, the clock does not stop in high school basketball.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: It continues to run and they turn it over Smid.
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: For two more stars, far straight for Smid. We're tied
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: forty two, forty.
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: Two Smid again, Cats Stores.
• 38:40
  Speaker 15: Oh, by mercy, what just happened?
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: Nobody knows?
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: Aver Smith just scored six straight.
• 38:51
  Speaker 17: Dallas Center Grimes leads for the first time in the
• 38:54
  Speaker 17: game with nineteen seconds to go.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Uh, Dallas Center Grimes to the comeback. Ava Smid, the sophomore,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: the star of it, which is absolutely points off the
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: inbound steal points another steal points and the next thing
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: you know, Dcg's on top.
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: She wasn't worried about celebrating. She was worried about making
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: the next play.
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: And we never we don't see that, even in professional sports.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: Sometimes we see the celebration and you don't go back
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: on defense. This girl was in the zone and that
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: call by the guy was so good. He did such
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: a good job in that call, and he even his
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: voice like you said, nice the end of it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Listen to how many times it goes higher and higher
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: after each play. When we talk about march madness, people,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: it's not just college basketball. We all know that it's everything,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: and high school basketball makes up so much of it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: So just listen to the voice and the octave ranges
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: of the play by play announcer.
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: Baseline inbounds A lot of times that could set up
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: a two point basket pretty quickly.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: If you need one, you gotta get it in, though
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: they do go for the quick too.
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: On the baseline in bounds. The clock does not stop
• 40:01
  Speaker 16: in high school basketball. It continues to run and the
• 40:04
  Speaker 16: turnover smid for two more scars, four straight for Spid.
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: We're time forty two, forty two spin again.
• 40:13
  Speaker 15: Oh bye, Mercy, what just happened?
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Nobody?
• 40:21
  Speaker 17: Hey, you spid just scored six straight Dallas center Grimes
• 40:26
  Speaker 17: leads for the first time in the game with nineteen
• 40:29
  Speaker 17: seconds to go.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: They scored, Yeah, six points in like three seconds. It
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: truly was. It wasn't three seconds, but it was down
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: near close.
• 40:36
  Speaker 10: It is so fast, so quick.
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: That sound of the color commentator, let's say, and her saying,
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: nobody knows You're like, did that?
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: Does someone insert that drop?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you some inside the walls. I'm gonna
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: break the fourth wall and tell you what that is.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Please tell I was able to and earlier in my career,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: do high school basketball games for the Wisconsin Radio Network.
• 40:56
  Speaker 12: Fun.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: What you would do during the state tournament. It broadcasts
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: throughout the state because you have teams throughout the state,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: and what they would normally do is they would get
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: you a high school coach to be your analyst. Okay,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: so while I had a broadcasting background and was working
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: at a local station, they kind of take your group.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: They're like, hey, could three or four year guys from
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: the station called games. Yeah, for sure, all right, We'll
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: get coaches to line up for you and do it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: So whoever was doing the analyst right there, I swear
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: had to be a coach of some sort of women's
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: girls team that has zero experience really doing this. So
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: you have a professional announcer, like the play by play
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: guy reaching the moment, and then you have the high
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: school coach of I don't know Cedar Rapids West. I
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: don't even know if there's a if that's even a
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: high school Iowa Sam. The point is is they're not
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: fit for that spot. But that's okay because it's just
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: it's high school hoops and it's all awesome. Nobody knows
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: and oh my goodness, it is so magnificent, she liked.
• 41:55
  Speaker 14: She answered a question literally that was that was not
• 41:59
  Speaker 14: supposed to be answer her. What just happened is the exclamation.
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: It doesn't need an answer.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Here's the It's a rhetorical question, right, it is accept
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: except if you are the analyst who is there to
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: actually answer that question. The last person in the world
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: that you would say don't know should be the analyst
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: who was there to answer every single question. You could
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: be like the press got and I'm not harping on
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the duty of it. I think it makes the call.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: So much better. But you're absolutely right. It was a
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: rhetorical question. But this she wasn't savvy enough to catch
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: on because.
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: She was watching the game. She forgot she was working
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: for a second.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: But the one person that I actually needed to know
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: was hers her. Yeah, nobody knows, and you're not going
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: to hear it from me even No, that's my job.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: But it was one hundred percent rhetorical. It was one
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: hundred percent rhetorical. Do you want to hear what would
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: happen if she called other games?
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: Yes? I would love to hear that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: All right, let's let's let's try number. Let's try number
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: like I'm gonna go with my beg of tricks here,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: let me just draw a number. Let's do number two.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I would sam nobody knows, Thank goodness, no one answered
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: El Michael's.
• 43:18
  Speaker 14: Yeah, that's the thing. I just looked it up. Actually,
• 43:21
  Speaker 14: Ken Dryden was the guy on the call. It would
• 43:24
  Speaker 14: have been like, it would have been like, do you
• 43:26
  Speaker 14: believe in miracles? And then, without any hesitation, Ken Dryden
• 43:30
  Speaker 14: would have been like, you know what, I didn't until
• 43:33
  Speaker 14: something happened with my mom once.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, drawing in the beg of tricks number three, Moncie.
• 43:46
  Speaker 18: Third down and five.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Let's hill Bucks on the car.
• 43:48
  Speaker 18: Crash your front, Thomas off the edgy Limanning stays on
• 43:53
  Speaker 18: his feet. Here's it about down the field. It is
• 43:58
  Speaker 18: caught by tyree Hey inside the twenty five and a
• 44:05
  Speaker 18: time out taken. Oh my god, this ball is thrown
• 44:11
  Speaker 18: and Tyragius goes up for like a basketball player, Harrison
• 44:14
  Speaker 18: trying to knock it down and Eli man I don't
• 44:19
  Speaker 18: know how he got.
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: Out of there.
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: Nobody knows.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: No thought he was on the.
• 44:22
  Speaker 18: Ground and and then he came out of the pile
• 44:25
  Speaker 18: and just slings it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Not even Eli Manning knows how he got out of there.
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: It's just so she really it caught her off guard.
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: I sounded like she forgot she was working, she was
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: watching the game, and she was so into it and
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: then realized she had to maybe say something.
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: I was like answering the literal.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: Question, like Jesus said, nobody knows, nobody knows.
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: But it's like nobody.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Knows we got any more? We got, we got any more?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, let's let's play it. Let's hear it,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: let see it and see what we got. Number four
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: of the game right now, idiot high Bypa in.
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: The White veil.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: She is gone.
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: In the year that the house been so improbable, the
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: impossible has happened.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: Nobody knows.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, nobody knows. Oh, I love the Highlight. I feel
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: really bad for the girl who had the inbound and
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: kept turning it over. Yes, the saving graces is nobody
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: is focusing on that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: Nobody's not at all.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's those moments where you know it's it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: heartbreak for a team and you're annak in that situation.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Even Smith's like in the Spotlight completely boom boom spid
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: spid smoit.
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: I was so impressed with how much in control she
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: was because that moment, you're like, okay, I just scored.
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: We're down to now, Oh my god, I'm ceiling the ball.
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: I just scored. And she never went for a foul.
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: You saw like she wasn't trying to make She just
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: was like, I'm gonna lay it, lay up, go back up,
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: lay up, and she made.
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: I was so impressed with that girl's composure in that moment.
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: I know that we're not supposed to make up make
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: fun of high school girls or women. I don't know
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: what they prefer to be called the theme. I will
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: say this, like, what was that inbounds past her thinking
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: it's nobody.
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: Knowsh nerves, nerves, it got to her.
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: It was too big A yeah, the first turnover, that
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: was it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: That was the moment because you're just trying to get
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the ball in there.
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: Correct and that's that she lost it right there. I
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: don't know if they didn't have a time out or what,
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: but I would have been like, no, no, no, no, no, I
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: can't let's let's calm the situation right now.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I tweeted the video at dan Byer on fire quote
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: tweeted it and nobody knows is magnificent, but it's what's
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: been people have been talking about the last couple of days.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Did we have any did we have By the way,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: kudos to Bo Benson for putting all of those great
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: moments in sports. Thank you together on on what could
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: have happened, But there is so much to it. Great
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: job on the call, and again I don't want to
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: be I I am not critical at all of the analyst.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad that she gave us that moment.
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: It's awesome, it's it's so funny, it's so good.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: So great, Iowa, Sam, And I'm looking here at my
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Twitter and it's some guy named Corvette Guy twenty six.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Does anybody know who he is?
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: Nobody knows.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: He's alerted me that they're class four A, not two A.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: So thank you Corvette Guy. Oh so you're correct? Is
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I just I read whatever the Yahoo articles? Oh no, no,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I'm the one who said four the two A. But
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: they're actually a much higher class. They played in the
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: class that I and same as my high school. So
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: they go and play in the championship game. Unfortunately had
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: some Here's the other great thing about the video that
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: you'll see. Number one, whoever did the TikTok didn't get
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: the full score right, But you're also like, it's a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: shop that doesn't do basketball games all the time, so
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: the score is slow to change. But also whoever recorded
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: it got a text message a text message during their recording,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: so the message pops up on the screen when they
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: were recording their own screen putting it together. And that's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the video that you've got. You can find it at
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Dan Byer on Fox. You can find Manzi at Monci
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Bolangio's Jason Stewart Iowa, Sam Ryan Berschinger all hanging out
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: for Stugatz in Company Live March Madness. The madness is
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: so much more about high school basketball than really anything else.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm glad that Iowa six days in is bringing
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: the heat.