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370: Start Telling The Truth Already - Raccoons Sound Off! · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: how you're feeling out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we might even play it on the pod.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to the first call.
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  Speaker 2: All right. First one is from Rachel.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, B & D. It's Rachel, longtime listener, longtime caller.
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  Speaker 4: I am just calling to remind everyone that this show
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  Speaker 4: has always sucked. People that watch the show, there is
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  Speaker 4: something wrong with all of us. We are like tantric people.
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  Speaker 4: We are people that saw two interesting-looking clips on the trailer,
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  Speaker 4: and we will watch flashback after flashback that we could literally.
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  Speaker 5: Quote from memory.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen it so many times, waiting for the one
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  Speaker 4: scintilla of interesting moments, of the time Janelle yells F
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  Speaker 4: you at Cody. That's how this show works. You watch
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  Speaker 4: and you wait on pins and needles, like, is something
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  Speaker 4: finally going to happen? And then it doesn't. And then
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  Speaker 4: it's like, well, maybe next week. We are the kind
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  Speaker 4: of people that will stay in an abusive relationship because
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  Speaker 4: he's nice twice a year on Thanksgiving and Christmas. So
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  Speaker 4: that's not anything new. What would have happened if Cody
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  Speaker 4: and Robin were on this season? Probably Robin would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. And Cody, like, God only knows. Like,
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  Speaker 4: he already did his apology tour. Barring Cody getting a
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  Speaker 4: new wife, I don't know what would be all that
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  Speaker 4: interesting in any of these people's lives. But again, we
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  Speaker 4: love this boring show. So if you don't like to
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  Speaker 4: be bored, this isn't the show for you. We haven't
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  Speaker 4: stayed around 20 seasons because we're people that have a
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  Speaker 4: sane expectation for the programming that we watch. But I
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  Speaker 4: also do want to say, I think the timing of
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  Speaker 4: Cody and Robin not coming back this season is saving
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  Speaker 4: them a ton of scrutiny because Robin would have to
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  Speaker 4: have some foining to do about the 60K on doll clothes,
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  Speaker 4: and people have now kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and then I cut off.
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  Speaker 4: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: You were spitting facts.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she's calling us out in the dumpster.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, it's so true. This show has always
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  Speaker 2: been boring. Like even in our rewinds, we're like, how
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  Speaker 2: did anybody watch this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, but that's a TLC show for you. Like John
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  Speaker 1: and Kate plus eight, boring. Duggars, boring.
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  Speaker 2: Plathville, boring.
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  Speaker 1: But there's something very dysfunctional inherently about these families that
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  Speaker 1: draws us in. And we're like raccoon detectives with our
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  Speaker 1: monocles looking for just a hint.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Something that would affirm what we feel psychically in our
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  Speaker 1: raccoon bodies. These people are fucking whack. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: we watch. And also some of us, Rachel, we like
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  Speaker 1: to be edged. Should I go up?
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  Speaker 3: Ew.
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  Speaker 1: We like to be edged. There's something very exciting about
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the other shoe to drop or whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know. I just, I do want to
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  Speaker 1: believe that at some point, The floodgates are going to
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  Speaker 1: open and one of these hoes is going to start
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth and giving us details that we crave.
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  Speaker 1: Do I know on an intellectual level that this is
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  Speaker 1: never going to happen?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But in an embodied way, I feel like it's possible.
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  Speaker 1: And so I continue to watch BHI.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm totally going to continue watching. My only
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  Speaker 2: critique really is just being authentic. Like you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to manufacture drama. You have enough. You can give us
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  Speaker 2: some tea and that.
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  Speaker 5: Would be great.
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  Speaker 2: But instead we want to have these like fake storylines.
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  Speaker 2: That's my critique about it. It's like, I know it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be boring. I know we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: going to speed dating events. I know. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be doing color analysis for all of these wives. And no,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go shopping for clothing. And, like, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to watch 30 minutes of that. And
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. I come into this knowing that I just
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  Speaker 2: want some tea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wouldn't take much.
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  Speaker 2: No!
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  Speaker 1: Like, it doesn't have to be a ton.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not asking for a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Just good little bits. And, like, Solomon Grundy is, like,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit... I mean, it does... open the door
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  Speaker 1: so that we can get a sense of what was
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  Speaker 1: happening with Robin and Cody and like how she was
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  Speaker 1: sending him out to do her dirty work. Like that's good.
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  Speaker 1: But like, it's so much as inference. It's us intuiting
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  Speaker 1: what that really means versus them being transparent. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just have to compare and contrast with like the
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  Speaker 1: Bravo shows, like the real housewives. Yes. Those women are
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  Speaker 1: producing and they're pretending to be wealthy and they're making
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  Speaker 1: their displays, but they also show very real fights and,
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  Speaker 1: They have gritty talking heads and we actually get into
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  Speaker 1: the down and dirty of their lives. So there's like a,
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  Speaker 1: there's like a, um, a juxtaposition and there's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of this and a little bit of that with
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  Speaker 1: sister wives. There's, it's a minuscule amount of solemn and
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  Speaker 1: grundy tea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then a bunch of fucking fakery.
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  Speaker 2: It's like.
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  Speaker 1: And so we are crazy, Rachel. You're fucking right.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like we're all trapped in the basement
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  Speaker 2: with Christine.
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  Speaker 1: We are.
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  Speaker 2: And like, we're kind of chained down there. And then
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  Speaker 2: like we're given these like little crumbs. Like we're given
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  Speaker 2: like a little piece of bread.
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  Speaker 1: Of Solomon Grundy.
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  Speaker 2: Of Solomon Grundy. And so then we take this like
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  Speaker 2: little piece of bread and we're just like nibbling on
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  Speaker 2: it until next week. We have to like last on it.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're so skinny.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we're edging. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're edging.
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  Speaker 1: We're edging because we like it.
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  Speaker 5: Literally though.
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  Speaker 6: She's right.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: I feel very attacked.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: I also have to co-sign Rachel.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely. All right. So next one we have is from Tanya.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, ladies. It's Tanya. uh, calling from a dumpster in
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  Speaker 5: Houston again. Um, we are sitting on some pretty weather, uh,
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  Speaker 5: 73 degrees, but it's only supposed to last two days.
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  Speaker 5: So anyway, um, we are now, it is Sunday and
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  Speaker 5: episode three is on its way. I'm not excited. Um,
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  Speaker 5: What I wanted to say was, I think it was
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  Speaker 5: this week, there was a TikTok video that I saw
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  Speaker 5: with David and Christine and their dumbass, not a quitter, shirts,
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  Speaker 5: which I'm over them. David is the true villain for
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  Speaker 5: me this season. I won't even get into that. But
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  Speaker 5: Christine sitting there talking about how she refused that the
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  Speaker 5: producers wanted them to go get dinner or lunch or
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  Speaker 5: something together after they met up over the pictures. And
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  Speaker 5: she just told them, no, I refuse. I will not
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  Speaker 5: do that. I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Clock in already or, or, or leave the show. Like
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  Speaker 5: I'm so tired. First it was Cody. Then it was Robin.
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  Speaker 5: Now they're, you know, y'all all hate each other. You
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be together. You don't want to get together,
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  Speaker 5: but yet you're getting paid. Thousands upon tens of thousands
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  Speaker 5: of dollars, close to a million a year, for us
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  Speaker 5: to sit here and watch this foolishness, for you to
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  Speaker 5: be like, no, I don't want to do it. Clock
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  Speaker 5: the hell in already.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of love that. Clock in!
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  Speaker 3: Do your job!
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  Speaker 2: This is what you're paid to do!
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  Speaker 1: And that's a fact.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah!
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  Speaker 1: Like, when you think about them making, allegedly, based on conversations...
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  Speaker 1: like $ 40, 000 each an episode. Now, who knows if that's
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  Speaker 1: what they're getting in season 21, because it's experimental, but like,
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  Speaker 1: let's say they are.
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  Speaker 7: Imagine getting $ 40, 000 an episode and refusing to film with
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  Speaker 7: people that you've spent your entire life with, which sets
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  Speaker 7: up the premise of this whole show, which you went
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  Speaker 7: into and co-signed the entire time. Like, imagine being like
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  Speaker 7: too good for.
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  Speaker 1: It and just be like, yeah, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: film with Mary though. I'm just, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You're fired.
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  Speaker 2: It's my boundary.
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  Speaker 1: Go away then. At least Cody and Robin to give
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  Speaker 1: them some credit. At least they had the wherewithal to
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  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we're not going to do it. It's
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  Speaker 1: just not worth it. I don't want to film with them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be around them. And so we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to participate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, unless they got tanked.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They probably got fired and or they've got another show
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  Speaker 1: that's coming up and we'll hear about it later.
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  Speaker 2: We're totally going to watch it though.
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  Speaker 1: But like at least if imagine a world where they
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  Speaker 1: had the dignity to say, yeah, we don't like these
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  Speaker 1: women and we don't want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: That would be so great.
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  Speaker 1: That would be like based.
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  Speaker 2: I would love that.
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  Speaker 1: But here we have Christine and David and I agree
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  Speaker 1: with her too. And I've talked a lot about how
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of him.
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  Speaker 4: David sucks.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to get off my television.
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  Speaker 2: He's so annoying.
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  Speaker 1: He makes Christine worse.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, totally. And I don't want to hear about their
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  Speaker 2: sex lives.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so next one we have is a twofer. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's from an anonymous person.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to attack us?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, B and D.
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  Speaker 6: For context, I just watched season 21, episode 3. So
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  Speaker 6: I've not seen anything else. I know nothing else just
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: because you know things change so quickly but um and
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  Speaker 6: i may be super annoying to you all because i
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  Speaker 6: am uh one of those optimistic people that uh that
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  Speaker 6: can just really see the best in the show even
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  Speaker 6: when it's trash um but i really loved this episode
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  Speaker 6: i think it was so cool to see janelle like
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  Speaker 6: learning a her style and stuff and comparing that to
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  Speaker 6: when she went to the dating coach she has so
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  Speaker 6: much more energy she's like she's like repeating that she
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  Speaker 6: likes this and she's enjoying herself uh and it's it's
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  Speaker 6: pretty funny I also think that it's like so cool
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  Speaker 6: that she it like right after seeing the dating coach
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  Speaker 6: she is investing in her style and like trying to
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  Speaker 6: kind of like improve herself in that way um to
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  Speaker 6: help with like her I assume that the thought process
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  Speaker 6: behind this is like I'm Not just for her own benefit,
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  Speaker 6: even though that's plenty of reason, but it's also just
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  Speaker 6: to help with the dating life and the dating scene.
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  Speaker 6: And maybe she is genuinely wanting to get back out there,
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  Speaker 6: even though she kind of did not seem interested in
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  Speaker 6: talking to the dating coach at all. Anyways, and dang it,
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  Speaker 6: I'm almost out of time already. I loved seeing them,
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  Speaker 6: the wives interact again, and a few jabs at Robin
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  Speaker 6: were great.
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  Speaker 1: So before we get on to the second one, I...
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that perspective. And if you watched our recap from
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  Speaker 1: earlier this week, or if you listened to it, you
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  Speaker 1: will have heard that I actually agree that I've enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: these last two episodes. I in particular liked episode three
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  Speaker 1: because we have these a little bit of deeper conversations
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  Speaker 1: and also more of a day in the life stuff,
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  Speaker 1: especially with Janelle and the things that she, she, she
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  Speaker 1: did seem happy to me to sit down and do
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  Speaker 1: her colors and to like think about the life she
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  Speaker 1: wants to live. Like I did love that energy. Do
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  Speaker 1: I think again that we can have an entire season
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  Speaker 1: out of that?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think we can have another season with just that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. But given what we know and how we
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  Speaker 1: followed along this entire time, like it is nice to
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  Speaker 1: see and I did like it. So I agree with Anonymous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it too. And for me, it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: so much about the color palette stuff that was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: What was interesting to me is like Janelle's reflection of
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  Speaker 2: on how she has appeared in her life and how
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  Speaker 2: she has not really taken care of herself and not
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  Speaker 2: really like prioritized her looks or her style or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that. And how she is coming into this era
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  Speaker 2: of like, well, I want to be kind to myself
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  Speaker 2: and I want to dress nice and I want to
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  Speaker 2: feel pretty and I want to feel feminine, look feminine.
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  Speaker 2: And I really like that. And like, not to bring
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: this back up again, because I think I mentioned it
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: on the pod, but What Not to Wear was kind
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: of like that, the show with Stacey Clinton and that
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  Speaker 2: gay guy. Where like they would take- Was it? Yeah. No,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: it was Stacey Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was Stacey and Clinton.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: I thought her last name was Clinton.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: No, his name's Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways.
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  Speaker 1: I follow him on Facebook.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Is he gay? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Turbo gay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I really like that show primarily because they
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  Speaker 2: would take people that were like this, where they like
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: never prioritize their style or they were like busy moms
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  Speaker 2: that like didn't have time to go shopping for themselves
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  Speaker 2: and they would completely revamp their wardrobe so that way
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  Speaker 2: they would feel better about themselves and feel more confident.
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  Speaker 2: And I liked that aspect of it. Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: really care about summer, fall colors or autumns or anything
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  Speaker 2: like that, but I like seeing Janelle be like, I
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  Speaker 2: want to feel myself so that way I can find
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  Speaker 2: my man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of us are low down,
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  Speaker 1: dirty and diabolical in the dumpster. But at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, we're rooting for these girls.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And we want them to succeed and we want them
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  Speaker 1: to move into new chapters of their lives where they're
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  Speaker 1: healthy and happy and fulfilled.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And so I like seeing it as well. I have
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  Speaker 1: liked it the last couple of episodes and I hope
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  Speaker 1: they continue. But again, it's got to be tempered with enough...
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  Speaker 1: transparent information about what really happened in this family in
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: order for me to stay interested. Because a lot of this, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's day in the life. It's stuff we want to know,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not going to hold my interest past 2027,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. So they're going to have to do more,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm liking what I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: So agreed, Anonymous.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed. All right. So Anonymous part two.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I know that people do call after call, but man,
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  Speaker 6: 90 seconds is limiting. Anyways, so it's me again. I
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  Speaker 6: also really love that Christine and Mary are going to
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  Speaker 6: have this talk coming up. I feel like it will
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  Speaker 6: be really good content for us to discuss because there's
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: a really high likelihood that one or both of them
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: makes a jerk out of themselves or it could go
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: really well and we could be really proud of them
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  Speaker 6: and happy for them. You know, I just think They
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: have a really hard time communicating and presenting themselves well
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  Speaker 6: with each other sometimes. And so I think it's going
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: to be interesting. I'll be really disappointed if it's just
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: kind of like a conversation like how it went between
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: Janelle and Mary when they talked about the backdoor deal.
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: Because I don't know. I think there's a lot they
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: need to get out on the table and there could
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: be a lot of drama here. I think they're both
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: wrong in different ways and both need to like grow
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: up a little bit.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm really excited to see how that plays out
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: and to.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: See maybe some like some drama or or maybe a
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: really healing conversation so i'm excited i think uh given
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: that cody and robin aren't on the show we still
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: have some interesting stuff to see and i'm i'm excited
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: about it so hopefully you guys are too um hopefully
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: this was a more enjoyable episode and you guys did
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: not fall asleep during this one because uh i thought
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: it was good so anyways bye.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Oh i like her she's sweet she didn't give us
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: her name.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I want you to call back again, Anonymous, because
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: now that you've seen episode four with like the start
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: of Mary and Christine's talk, I want to know what
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: your thoughts are and then what it'll be next week
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: because maybe it'll be different than our perspective on it
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: because we were kind of like, eh.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think rightly so. I think she's definitely
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: seeing the potential of the conversations we could have. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: this was after she watched episode three. And so in
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: episode four, we had Mary and Christine sit down and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: we started the conversation. I don't think we're going to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get to that meaty conversation that we really need to.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think these women have the ability to actually
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: do that. I really wish we could have an intersection
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: between sister wives and couples therapy with Dr.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Orna.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Because imagine a world where Dr. Orna sat these three
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: women down and facilitated a conversation between these women about
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: what they've been through. Because when you think about the
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: immense nature, the expansive, like what the cult nature of
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: what they've been through and how they treated each other
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: as a result of what they've been through. But like
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: there's no other people on the planet that have had
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this experience except these three women and Cody actually. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: so to have somebody who knows how to facilitate a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: conversation like that, sit them down in a room and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: have a real conversation. The only other time I've seen
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that outside of couples therapy is actually with Iyanla Benzant
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: when she sat down with the Braxtons. Did you see that?
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: So, oh, Tamar could not handle it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And Iyanla does not pull her punches. She tells you
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: exactly what she's seeing and what she's thinking about your situation.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And I really feel like a counselor like that, that'll
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: sit down with the women and oh my gosh, would
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: be so fantastic.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Would be so great. I just think that the majority
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of these women, maybe not Mary, are like afraid of really,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be sound cliche, but like are
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: really afraid of speaking the actual truth. Right. Because to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: speak in that, like you would have to be okay
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: with hurting people's feelings or saying something offensive.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Owning your own shit.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: But owning your own shit as well. And I don't
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: think that they're really capable of doing that. And that
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: To be fair, that's a really hard thing to do,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: especially when you've spent.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: That's why you need a counselor, somebody like Dr.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Orna.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yes. And like when you've spent your whole life hiding
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: yourself and not being authentic. I mean, maybe this is
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: why Mary wants to coach people in their authenticity because,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you know, she's. grown so much and become so authentic
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: in two years after leaving the.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But she has an instinct on the fact that she
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: wants to heal and she is a little bit premature
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: in trying to bring other people on a journey she
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: hasn't yet gone on herself.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But she has the instinct to do it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Whereas Janelle and Christine... Well, Janelle is a coach. She
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: made a post on Instagram this week about being a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: coach and it was a lot of like... Don't even
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: get me started.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Psychology. It was a lot of therapy speak.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Don't even get me started.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yes. sound and fury signifying nothing but like it didn't
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: say a whole lot but like she's a coach and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: i'm like janelle you're the most avoidant non-verbal person who
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: can't communicate unless you're in a rage and calling cody
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: out and telling him fuck you cody like you don't
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: talk though how can you coach people they need somebody
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like dr orna or yanla van zandt who can sit
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: them down and prompt them in the right way to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: have this hash out definitely And I just don't think
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: we're ever going to get that. I don't think we're
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: getting that in the next episode.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But it would be so... It would be great. Good.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It would be like the best thing on TLC right now.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Dream of a world where.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. From your lips to God's ears. Yeah, I just don't...
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It would be so great.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But if they have to do it themselves, they can't
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: do it. They don't have the intelligence. Well, and also
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: they're scared. They're scared of each other, but they but
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they don't have like they don't have the communication they
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: don't have the infrastructure like how to like actually move
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that conversation along so it's not going to happen i
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: don't think.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: No but let us know your thoughts anonymous we would
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: love for you to call again so let us know
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: your thoughts from this week's episode episode four and beyond
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And the last caller we have is also anonymous.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Hello, raccoons. This is another raccoon out in the Northeast, Candace.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling a bit salty towards TLC right now because
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I've been getting into Colin Gosselin's book and hearing the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: horrors of his life and how TLC just thrived off that,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: just exploiting those children. And they've exploited the Brown family.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: And the Brown family, these parents were more than happy
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: to just exploit their children and their drama. And I
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: just think nothing good has come from this. And of course,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: we have Garrison, who's no longer here. And I really
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: think living in polygamy, this would have happened anyway, where
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the kids would have been dysfunctional from living in that
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: toxic environment. But You know, I was pretty much done
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: with the show after last season, but I decided to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: come back and hear about the women just because I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: want them to talk shit about Cody and Robin.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I hate them.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I hate Cody and Robin. But then I'm like watching
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: it and none of these, it just doesn't feel authentic
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: or real to me that these women would ever have
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: anything to do with each other after leaving Cody. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: it just doesn't feel real. And it's just a money grab.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: And I feel like they've destroyed their family over greed
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and money. And that's my hot take. That's it. Thank you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, honestly, for the most part. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: think TLC has always done this, though. TLC has a
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: habit of exploiting anyone and everyone that they can. I mean,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: even back in the day, they were like, low key
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: exploiting people with like rare disorders and disabilities and stuff
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: for like the shock and awe factor. Like I was
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: one of those people that was watching those like crazy
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: medical mystery shows.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And the My Strange Addiction.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And the My Strange Addiction.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Pregnancies where they didn't know until they gave birth.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And even 16 and Pregnant, you know, like a lot
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of those shows, like they were exploiting it mainly for
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the shock and awe because they knew that people like
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: me would watch it. because it was crazy and different
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And it's like, we can have
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a conversation all day, every day about like the morals
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and ethics of TLC. And like, what if they're, if
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: they're doing anything right by having these shows, because in
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: some regards, like some of the, you know, they do
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: make people famous and they give them money and stuff
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: like that. But then at the same time, it's like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you are exploiting off of like people's problems and pain and,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: or their medical conditions or their addictions or whatever. And so,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It becomes really unethical. And then you have like the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Duggars who were on the show for a really long time.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, two of their sons now are
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: convicted pedophiles. And it's horrible that they were able to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: profit off of this show and profit off of TLC.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And you have Sister Wives and then you have the Gosselins.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And there's so many examples. TLC sucks.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: We all saw how Kate Gosselin treated her children and
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: what she did. We all saw Christine, for example, parentify
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: her children. And Janelle, not neglect her children, but certainly
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: parentify her children. And the fact that some of these
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: kids should have a cause against their own parents, they
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: might not do it, but they should. And if they
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: won't do it against their parents, they should do it
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: against TLC because the more money TLC makes exploiting families...
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And couples like 90 Day Fiancé, like you have Angela
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever being straight up abusive. A lot of these
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: people are predators.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, terrible.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: On TLC, on 90 Day Fiancé. But the more people watch,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the more money they make. And so they are incentivized
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to do it. But there should be something, there should
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: be something that people can do to stop it because
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it's wrong.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Or even like Tollers and Tiaras or like with Honey
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Boo Boo and her mom. I think it's starting to
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: sue her mom or something because her mom like basically
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: took all of the money that she earned as a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: literal child on TLC.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: There are no protections for kids on reality TV. There
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: are for kids who are like in movies, the Coogan stuff,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: but like not for reality TV.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And I think that's where the real change needs to
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: happen because kids should be able to have Like, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: don't even know what you call it. Like, protections. They
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: should be able to have power. They should be able
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to have, like, laws against the parents using money that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the children earn on shows.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, in this last episode with Truly learning to drive,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: did she get paid for that?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Who paid her? Is it going to have to be
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: filtered through Christine and David? Yeah, probably. And how much
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: are they going to pay Truly? Are they going to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: put that in an account? They should.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They should.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: They probably won't.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: That would be the right thing to do, but they're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: not going to do that, probably. I don't know. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: then to your other point, Candice, about this show, this
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: season in particular, feeling inauthentic, I agree. Because this is,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is how they've always been on every season,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: but you would think that if Cody and Robin are gone,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: then they would feel more empowered to speak the truth,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to spill some tea, to be real with us for once.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: But instead, we're getting kind of the same crap that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: we've always been getting. We have Mary kind of talking
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: crap through her friends. Like her friends still kind of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: speak for her because she's still afraid to say the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: truth herself. And then Christine's kind of doing that with
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: David where David kind of speaks the truth for her.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: So that way Christine doesn't have to say the hard shit.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And then you have a Janelle kind of avoiding it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: all because she doesn't really want to air out any
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: of the dirty laundry. And that is disappointing as the fans.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, like we've said before, like it's, it's nice
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to have these tidbits and, It's nice to have these
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: pieces of bread thrown at us through the basement door
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and that's fine. We're still going to come back for
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it because we're dumb and we're rabid and we want
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to watch the show, but it would be really nice
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: if we could get... some authenticity from these women and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's weird to me that reality tv has become this
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: i mean i feel like reality tv has always been
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a little produced but i don't know i feel like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: back in the day back in the 90s like with
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the real world and some of those earlier seasons of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: survivor for example yes absolutely gritty and real and like
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: i loved that that's what it's supposed to be yes
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and now it's just Like across the board, shows are becoming.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Super turbo produced. It's 90% bullshit.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And I just don't understand why we're doing that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: They're keeping secrets. And again, that's what keeps us on
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the hook. But like if you're never going to get
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to the point where you're actually telling the truth, then
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: what are we doing here? It's the 21st season of
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Sister Wives. Like get real already.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: Clock in.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Clock in.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Clock in, honey.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You got a job to do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Was that the last call?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: That was the last call.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think about some of these topics?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: What are your opinions? Drop in the comments if you're
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube and let us know. And or if
• 27:03
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• 27:06
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• 27:09
  Speaker 1: else that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: before we get up on out of here?
• 27:14
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• 27:17
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• 27:18
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• 27:22
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• 27:23
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• 27:25
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• 27:31
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• 27:34
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• 27:37
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• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And peace out.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Bye, guys.