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🚨 Gamefound Just Changed EVERYTHING?! New Updates & INSANE Card Reveals! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: If not, eventually, I'm really hoping it goes somewhere. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. But what's going on, everybody? I'm
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  Speaker 1: the one, the only, the w O O K I E.
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  Speaker 1: If this fails, I'll figure out Ewok's thing that he
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  Speaker 1: did and put that together and put that one up.
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  Speaker 1: How does that sound? But we have the PhD of
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  Speaker 1: key Forge, doctor m Sheet, Hello, the hell Breaker himself,
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  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Deuce.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, keyboard community. You could we could also go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and put our Shadows episode that we recorded back to that.
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  Speaker 1: We can do that. I mean, there's the the possibility
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  Speaker 1: or one of the other episodes that I never listed.
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  Speaker 1: The possibilities are endless. And we have the man with
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  Speaker 1: the plan who almost did something dras.
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  Speaker 3: Corps today like you're forgetting our names.
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  Speaker 1: M No, I'm I'm adding dramatic effect. Oh yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: dras cour is room rooming. I don't really know what
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  Speaker 1: that's all about.
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  Speaker 2: He's having fun.
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  Speaker 1: Well, since we can't do any more card scoring because
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  Speaker 1: dras Corps is are you driving? Are you driving or
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: is somebody else driving you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm driving?
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  Speaker 1: Got it? That makes sense? Yeah, sweet, be careful. I
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  Speaker 1: guess us is what I would I figured somebody was
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  Speaker 1: driving you and.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to the World board Gaming Championships, so he's excited.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be fine. Oh they would run that on the
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  Speaker 1: same same week as gen Con. Or does it always
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  Speaker 1: fall like that or is just it just happened?
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  Speaker 4: It often? Does it often? Does? It seems like a
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  Speaker 4: bad idea? You know what?
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  Speaker 2: It is?
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  Speaker 4: A bad idea?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd feel like you'd get more people if like
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  Speaker 1: you maybe rant like a month later. Yep, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean they do respectable for themselves, right like
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  Speaker 1: they do. They do good people. They do a good
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  Speaker 1: amount of people.
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  Speaker 4: It's a few thousands.
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  Speaker 1: It's the World Series of board Gaming.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the World board Gaming Championships.
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  Speaker 1: World Series of board Gaming. Is that wait? Hold on,
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  Speaker 1: it's different. I was gonna say, Is that a different
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  Speaker 1: that's a different conction? Huh?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Shattered Reality is right now. We're going to go through
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  Speaker 1: some of the updates from that campaign as it As
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  Speaker 1: we speak right now, sitting at one hundred and thirty thousand,
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventy six dollars with three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven backers eleven days left. I really wish we
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  Speaker 1: had somebody that did cool charts and graphics to let
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  Speaker 1: us know where we are pacing from the last game.
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  Speaker 2: We do have a little bit of information sheep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here, but I'm doing research.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? All right? So basically what we before the
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  Speaker 1: big test.
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  Speaker 2: What we do have is that right now, the difference
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  Speaker 2: between the previous game found and where we are at.
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  Speaker 1: This time or total at this.
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  Speaker 3: Time approximately since the start of this one as compared
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  Speaker 3: to the start of DM over the same the same
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  Speaker 3: time span, this one is currently down approximately one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty backers and forty five thousand dollars. So DM
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  Speaker 3: was was what that's like fifty percent higher than where
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  Speaker 3: we're at now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about yeah, about five hundred and fifty backers
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  Speaker 2: compared to four hundred in about one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: five thousand at this point versu.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred and thirty.
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  Speaker 1: So really that's not a crazy amount.
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  Speaker 3: It is when when forty five thousand is ten fifteen
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  Speaker 3: to twenty twenty percent of your game found, fifteen percent
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  Speaker 3: of your game found. Yeah, like and you're you're doing
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  Speaker 3: fifteen percent now, that only is good again, it worse
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  Speaker 3: probably would be my would be my thought, right, Like.
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  Speaker 2: I I thought, I thought the one hundred and fifty backers.
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  Speaker 2: So if we're I mean, you're you're over it by
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  Speaker 2: one hundred. But basically, if you're looking at one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty three hundred, like.
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  Speaker 1: It's three hundred bucks a backer, you're missing.
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  Speaker 2: That's substantial. But I'm saying, like here at it's.
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  Speaker 1: Actually one of the pledges, three hundred, Like the base
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  Speaker 1: pledge is like three bills right now, one sixty five
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  Speaker 1: is like, that's the base pledge.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's like you get a box, you get the
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  Speaker 3: name deck, you get for this, you get most of
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  Speaker 3: the interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, at least that's what it always used to be,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Actually, no, I'm wow.
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  Speaker 3: I know I know from a little bit I talked
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  Speaker 3: to people. There are more people who intend to buy
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  Speaker 3: direct from their flags. So there's always some them out
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  Speaker 3: there that we don't know anything about.
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  Speaker 2: And I think I think that's a solid step that
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  Speaker 2: people are willing to invest in their local game stores.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: Are you going through a swarm of bees right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really bad right now? You roll your window.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just driving.
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  Speaker 4: Down the road.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I was just wondering I was wondering if you
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  Speaker 1: were being attacked by bees.
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  Speaker 5: No, you know how to like when you drive down
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  Speaker 5: the highway and then there's those lines every like.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty feet and you junk un junk junk out.
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  Speaker 1: There on those little ridges on the side of the
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  Speaker 1: road that are meant to wake people up when they start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it was bees.
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  Speaker 3: I could, I.
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  Speaker 4: Could, I could run over some of that for you.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're good. We don't need we don't
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  Speaker 1: need all that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't need sheep driving here. We want you just
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  Speaker 2: to get to your events and move on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm waiting for the oh shit and maybe
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: a tire squeal and a crash. But it's okay, don't
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: do that. Don't don't listen to me. Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. But yeah, so we're down, and we're
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  Speaker 1: kind of down big. How do we right the ship? Boys?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I got saying there there is an amount
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  Speaker 3: from game stores that will be bought. I don't sure.
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  Speaker 3: We we obviously don't know, although I do know, like
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  Speaker 3: our numbers, those numbers I got. I pinged up old
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  Speaker 3: friend of the show JM, who's mostly out of key
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  Speaker 3: Forge at this point because he dislikes everything Ghostcouty is done,
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  Speaker 3: and I see, like just scrolling around some posts, I
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  Speaker 3: see kryt Nato, who is a longtime friend of the
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  Speaker 3: show and player with us. He's out because of what
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  Speaker 3: Ghost Galaxies has done. So there's definitely player attrition going on.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't really know. Man. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: yeah gen event is about to happen and there's fourteen
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  Speaker 3: people signed up for it.
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  Speaker 4: Is that all there still is? I thought maybe they get.
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  Speaker 3: More by now, who knows?
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  Speaker 1: I mean more people playing line.
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  Speaker 2: But access to worlds is on the line.
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  Speaker 1: Boys, Yeah, there's somebody there be like I'll pick this
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  Speaker 1: up and then end up getting a world in.
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  Speaker 5: I get just cheap driving right and I'm in the
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  Speaker 5: car right now, I'm supposed to stop outside Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 4: I could just keep driving in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: You could, but you can't get a badge.
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  Speaker 1: You can you can't get a ticket in to go play.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you can wander around outside and try to
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  Speaker 3: scalp one.
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  Speaker 4: You under rest of me.
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  Speaker 3: But goodness, next Like I just bought an next round
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  Speaker 3: because I have dumb money and I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't do that ship other nick different nick,
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  Speaker 1: different nick.
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  Speaker 5: Like squash ye scout, like drinking with liquid squash the
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  Speaker 5: after party, I might be worth it.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, just go, just go to hang out with
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  Speaker 3: the cool people are there after the event. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say game Game Found is down. The
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  Speaker 2: number of backers missing is, in my opinion, more of
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  Speaker 2: an issue that Obviously all of the Chris bo Me
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  Speaker 2: the top backing is still sold out, but you're missing
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  Speaker 2: kind of more of your consistent players. And yes we
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  Speaker 2: do have some attrition, but it's there. We did go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and get our first bit of information for a
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  Speaker 2: stretch Goald boys.
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  Speaker 1: We did. But first I'd like to go into a
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  Speaker 1: segment call the random comment posts from game from Keyforde
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  Speaker 1: Game Found. No, no, no, no, there's no custing.
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  Speaker 3: I promise it's not about a premium pledge available right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So actually it says sold out, Well, it says
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  Speaker 1: nineteen mins has sold out.
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  Speaker 3: It happened, it had been changed the logo. But if
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  Speaker 3: you look, there's actually nineteen and you can add one
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  Speaker 3: to your pledge right now.
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  Speaker 1: If only I had a pledge.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody someone had. Yeah, no, because mine's a Yes it does.
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  Speaker 2: Actually it says sold out, but yes, it's pledged nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you're looking at the words, not the actuability to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that says.
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  Speaker 3: Something right there that they didn't even sell out on.
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  Speaker 1: But it's time for random thoughts with the key Forge
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  Speaker 1: shattered realities, game pound coming, random bitching by people that
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  Speaker 1: aren't us, another campaign that will essentially fund the new game,
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  Speaker 1: where all the energy seems to be focused and not
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  Speaker 1: on KeyForge. No presence at Gamma, no real answer to
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  Speaker 1: the PV issue, no real op support for stores, no
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  Speaker 1: advertising or marketing. No, no, no, no no. I've been
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  Speaker 1: a player and supporter of the game since COVID, have
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  Speaker 1: met and friended many players who have supported the game
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  Speaker 1: even longer, and this is what we get for all
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: the support and hope for the game. Absolutely not. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to bring key Forge back and isn't how
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  Speaker 1: the game should be carried forward ie kicking and screaming
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  Speaker 1: through the mud in the interest of some new and
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  Speaker 1: shiny product. My list of issues goes on much too
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  Speaker 1: long for one comments section, so I will by saying no,
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  Speaker 1: I will not back and support this campaign, and to
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  Speaker 1: the reader, I suggest you don't either. Keyfordge died in
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  Speaker 1: PV and it's time to recognize that. Such a shame.
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  Speaker 3: So it is funny because Ghost Galaxy was definitely a
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  Speaker 3: Gamma this year. Well they didn't push any KeyForge. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I was not there, but they're well, they
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  Speaker 3: aren't listed, and I talked to somebody else who saw
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  Speaker 3: them there, So I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Pushing mind bug. Huh, Yeah it could have been. I
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  Speaker 1: don't actually know what they were doing there, but they
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  Speaker 1: were at Gamma. I mean, this is the funny thing
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  Speaker 1: about this is this isn't the first time we've heard
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  Speaker 1: about Like, I'm just done because they won't support local stores,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no local support to do anything.
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  Speaker 3: There is very little thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean two events a year.
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  Speaker 3: That's not nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not nothing. It's not something either.
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  Speaker 5: The special retail foil cards, he's a campaign. My will
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  Speaker 5: still support my store, even though I have two thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars worth of Sleepy Dragons.
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  Speaker 4: I will buy one foil Sleepy Dragon.
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  Speaker 5: To support my store when I go in, because the
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  Speaker 5: foil dragon is cool.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a single foil. And it's that they're now
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  Speaker 3: releasing full foil decks and stuff. It seems very disappointing
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  Speaker 3: in comparison.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the most disappointing part about the foils,
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  Speaker 1: honestly is that like you're like, oh, sweet foiled deck,
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  Speaker 1: or even just one foil, and it's just in this
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  Speaker 1: turd of a deck, and you're like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, I mean that's always key Ford.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always but I know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, like you half the time when
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  Speaker 3: you get a foil, when you open a magic package
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  Speaker 3: on some turd card you don't care about too.
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  Speaker 1: But it's foil. This is true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean, like turd foils are just part
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  Speaker 3: of the foil world, and a lot of games that
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: most Pokemon foils are kurds.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of them aren't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know of them are.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's different when I'm able to go like
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  Speaker 1: take my flashy shit and then be like, oh, but
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  Speaker 1: I can at least go buy like cool foils from
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  Speaker 1: somewhere and then bling out my cool deck that I
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: want to do, and you can't, Like, you just can't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 3: This game does not have a core design that is
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  Speaker 3: supportive of strong secondary market movement.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, That is true.
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  Speaker 3: That isn't a huge weakness in my opinion, because secondary
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: market shit is part of why I hate dealing with
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: collectible card games. Hate that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Understand that. But we did get into the news sets name.
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  Speaker 2: Before you go there, I have one more comment. I
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  Speaker 2: think this also could relate to the money decrease basically
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  Speaker 2: stretch pay this time around. These campaigns are basically asking
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  Speaker 2: for a lump sum for all the key forge community
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  Speaker 2: is looking to play over like six months. It really
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: should be spread out over time. And the response was unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: there won't be stretch pay for this campaign, and I
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: know that impacted a couple of people why they're not choosing.
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  Speaker 2: But here's potentially the good news on it. Due to
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  Speaker 2: how quickly we plan to fulfill these stretch pay just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work for us.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm so they weren't getting that money in fast enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that we're going to be able to
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: have this set fulfilled a little bit quicker. See it
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  Speaker 2: as a positive there. All right, you want to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and talk a new set, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you really think that's what was stopping fulfillment of
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the set was stretch pay? No?
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I think that stretch pay helps out a number of individuals,
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  Speaker 2: but it could be a limiting factor as why they're
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  Speaker 2: not going ahead and committing here, and maybe you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: more people than participate with the local store hopefully. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not on the inside workings in
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  Speaker 2: that manner.
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  Speaker 1: That's that is such a that is that you know what?
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like an excuse, This is why we're not
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  Speaker 1: doing stretch pay number one. It somehow, I mean obviously
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  Speaker 1: like they don't get all the money upfront right away.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how their stretch pay works.
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  Speaker 1: I've worked with companies and I work with companies now
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: that like we get the money upfront with their stretch pay,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and it's all it's all divisive on a third party company.
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  Speaker 1: So I really don't I guess I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: that whole thing operates and entails. But like using that
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  Speaker 1: as like we're not going to offer it so we
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: could fulfill it faster, I'm not. I don't buy it still, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Just saying it. It may be a different aspect between
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  Speaker 2: DM and Shattered Realities. That's what I'm saying. That's a
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  Speaker 2: different component.
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  Speaker 3: There is a minor change in this game found that
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  Speaker 3: isn't copy paste. The starting goal was moved up from
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  Speaker 3: fifty thousand to seventy five thousand.
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  Speaker 1: No, it was fifty thousand, no.
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  Speaker 3: Goal, seventy five thousand. I'm looking at it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I guess I should have I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: could have swere it was fifty thousand again.
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  Speaker 3: No five Right up there in the top right corner.
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  Speaker 1: It does say seventy five thousand, are correct? It is
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four. It was one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: seventy four percent funded. It was funded in two hours
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  Speaker 1: and twenty minutes, which.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Is slow for a game pound. But I mean I
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: in a real pessimistic point of view, I could see
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: them be like, well, bring up the bottom, because if
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't actually hit this much, we don't even want
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  Speaker 3: to print it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I mean altered did that?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Altered lies? They started low and when it didn't build
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: fast night they said, think it was real bottom?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think galaxy?
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  Speaker 2: Lie?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, because they're realizing they know they're only in
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  Speaker 3: the two to three hundred thousand dollars on a game pound.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, I guess yes, putting it to two
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand when they're only expecting to get two five
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  Speaker 3: is I mean actually well down.
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  Speaker 1: Pledges two hundred thousand. I mean, we wouldn't even be
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  Speaker 1: funded yet if we're if we if that were the case, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but no.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is done and guaranteed at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think if I remember correctly, and I can't
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: remember where I got this information from, so you'll have
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  Speaker 1: to forgive me game Found. Game Found legitimately suggests with
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  Speaker 1: them to start it at fifty thousand, and obviously that's
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  Speaker 1: to build the hype up, right, like funded in seventeen
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  Speaker 1: and a half seconds, you know, like, yeah, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think. I think key forde One of the things
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: is like, so the development in the aspect of key Fords,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: the development work for key Forge at this point is
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: mostly paid for for Shattered Realities. I know they're still
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: doing some work, but mostly the art is the art
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  Speaker 3: is already at least, you know, like the the invoices
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  Speaker 3: in the air, right, whether they've actually mad as.
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  Speaker 1: I've been cranking away on chat, GPT and perplexity to
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  Speaker 1: get them art. It's you know, it's the best struggle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So they like, ultimately they already have the card
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  Speaker 3: stock in house and the printers, so because they control
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the stuff in house and you know, they can print
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: run to whatever size they need. And in a lot
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: of ways, the back end of key Forge is a
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: lot less than other some other games. It's not like
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: they're going, oh, our print runs so short. We can't
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: talk to a big printer because they're already Ghost Galaxies
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: having artif Forge to it. Who has like a minimum
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: print run of like one hundred decks or something. It's
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: not crazy to be cost effective, and they already have
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: proof that they can do one off. So like the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: whole scale thing that kills a lot of other game
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: found kind of things. When they don't do well it,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: it doesn't really seem to be as big of a
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: problem for KeyForge. Calva doesn't make enough. I think it
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: says there isn't another one, but I don't see how
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But we already have another set name they have to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: do another one. Yeah, yeah, okay, but now I want
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to do spoilers right because gr is getting mad at us.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I can tell no, no, I'm actually over here on
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the fees that game found takes. So that's what I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: was more interested in. Yeah, so when we're looking at
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the offer like platform fee just for game found is
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a platform fee of five percent to all successfully collected payments,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Like that's really who's making the consistent money from all
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: of the different companies. You also have a payment processing
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: of three percent. But it's interesting under stretch pay that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is their free sea No. Stretch pay is installment program
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: for backs during that was free listed under the fees.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Pledge Manager setup is free top banner on the main page,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: free featuring on the main page all like the marketing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I wonder if that's interesting.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I wonder if game company only gets paid when the
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: stretch pay payments come in.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: That's what Either either.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: They're chunking up the payments in that way so you're
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: delaying your own payment, or somebody is paying to effectively
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: finance that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: So it's either the consumer or the or the company.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Right, so.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: You know, if game Founds offering it for free, it's
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: not Game Founds. That means it's either the consumer, which
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: doesn't sound like if you're the pledging your so either
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: it only comes in later or Gigi has to pay
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: uh effectively for the finance.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's worked in somewhere. I'm actually under the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: area of launch your projects. So if I were to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: launch a project, this is what I would get for
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: using game Found. They also have a ten percent of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: AD revenue, so performance marketing on external platforms, and they
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: list Facebook, Google, BGG. Sorry, it was just interesting because
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's really who's making like think about.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Leaders receive the funds incrementally as individual installment payments as
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: successfully collected. So yes, likest Galaxy gets money stretched out
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: over launch little payments.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: But if you're looking, I mean they're handling the vats
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and other things for your EU. There's definitely some logistics,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: but eight percent of even game found right now at
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: its one hundred and thirty thousand, that's nothing to sneeze at.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: That's you're running multiple games and when these games can
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: be very successful, it's very interesting. Anyway, sorry my rabbit hole.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Well, Kickstarter is a higher price, or at least it flies,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: which is part of the reason.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Correct, you have a competing platform that's here, but you're seeing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, what's the name of the
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: new campaign?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Well, because we hit our stretch goal, it was released
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Mirror Vault.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It's a weird dame.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: That's the response. All right, and with it the announcement
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of evil twins are going to come out with the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: mirror vaults and fitting and then the ability to clone.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: That's less exciting.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: But I like the return of evil twins.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I think. I think it's a really cool concept. Like
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I remember back when DT came out, you know, I
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: remember people and myself being sad that we were in COVID, right,
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: because one of the really cool aspects of the evil
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Twin was like, oh yeah, you could like try to
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: find the person who has your evil twin and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: maybe meet up with them in person at convention to
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: meet somebody and like play them against each other or
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: you know, give you know, allow one person to consolidate
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: the evil twin with the with the.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Twin.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. So, you know, really cool concept, I think,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: But so I'm excited to see it back. Of course,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: it very much depends on the card quality as to
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: if we'll like it or not.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Right, Uh, yeah, I agree with that. I'm not a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: huge fan of evil Evil Twin being back, I know
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that much.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I could I try to collect them, yeah, I think.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But like when we're talking about making decks that in
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the competitive sphere, and one of the reasons why DT
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: was such a failure is Evil Twins.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: What No, what is gonna have to do with DT
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: being a failure? I don't understand where that comes from.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, so why why why do you consider
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: DT a failure?
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: What?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: What would you say made it? Made it good or bad?
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: That was under power?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: The mechanic was bad, bad, and then it's timing was
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: really bad. Yeah, that hurt from financial point of view.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like, why is it not veered well now?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Because it was a bad mechanic with bad car quality
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and you think AOA is a bad mechanic or is
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a relatively low card quality set and it doesn't carry
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the general hate as Dark Tinis does because the mechanic
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't bad, it's just car collars were bad. Depends on
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: how you not a huge AOA.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: I mean most of us consider it not a great set,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: but we have fonder feelings to it than we do DT.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I guess honestly because one of the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: big things was how it because with the with the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Evil Twin cards, you had some that were really really
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: good and some were that were absolute dog water. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: if you got sorted into well, right, but like these
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sorted you into one of two categories, right, because once
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you were an Evil Twin, you could only get evil.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: You had to be with all other Evil Twin cards.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Just like when you weren't an Evil Twin deck, you
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: couldn't get.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: The good version of right correct.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So I mean, like, I understand what you're saying, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I don't see how that's.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That. That didn't it affects the numbers of possiblity, It
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: creates too many possibilities. I mean, does a good if
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: does a good job in card design? Okay, maybe we
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: don't have that problem. I mean, is they have to.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Design more cards for that set then they're currently designed
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the current sets already in this world of fewer cards,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: fewer possibilities, and it's not better. The game's not better
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I again, I still wonder how this solves
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the PV problem. We still haven't kind of figured that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: out at all. So I mean, I mean, Evil Twins
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a cool idea. I just I think that the Evil
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Twin had more to do with it, more to do
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: with DT being a struggle than anything else. Even though
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of DT apologists.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not a DT apologist. I'm more in the camp
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: with drezz and cheap. My only issue that I have
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: for this is I hope the number of Evil UH
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: decks is actually increased. So they were pretty rare to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: be able to find them, and so it is more
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: of an entertainment value versus a competitive level. So I
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: hear what you're saying, Wookie, I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Won my minor game with an Evil Twin deck this week.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Very nice.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So that's my request is that they just increase the amount.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: World Clyde Brobner, So let's not get too excited. Yeah, well,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: well we'll have to wait and see. This is also
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: going to allow them to reprint Dark Tightenings decks. I'm
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: not really sure who is asking for this, but clearly
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: somebody want, you know, exactly, like.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: The incorrect statement you said a long time.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: For it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if incorrects the correct term to use. There,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You're correct, I know exactly who is asked for asking
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the opposite of what you said. I continue
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: to continue with your explanation.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Well, two people is not I'm asking beyond it. Are
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people asking to reprint DT decks.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Now, it's like quick draw and murph right right, and
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: that's it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Like who else is asking to reprint DT decks? I'm
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the what's what's frog legs? What's frog legs? Yeah he's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: got the DT aligned. Oh okay, But so that that
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: makes me think that something to do with the Evil
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Twin algo Jen has something to do with why they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: don't have DT reprinting. And they're like, well, if we're
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: going to fix it so we can reprint DT, we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: might also just put it in a set if we're
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: going to put any work into making evil Twins work.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Again, which I think is a good idea.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yea, hope, me too bad. I don't really have any
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: problem with them. I actually I don't know if I
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: want to see their quantity increase, like one per box
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: would be definitely the maximum I want to see.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I would love to be able to see them
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: actually linked in the same box, but that is such
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a lofty goal. I think just increasing how often they
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: show up will help, because then.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: We want them linked in the same box. Doesn't that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: take can wait all the fun that you guys were
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: talking about earlier?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to I want to be able
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to collect the evil twin pair.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Now I want to have to find want I want
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: to have to find my mate. Noh Jr. Just want
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to sit in his basement with himself and play with
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: his own evil twin.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I do think that that was a missed opportunity on
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the stretch goals that I feel like that you could
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: have made an evil twin for your personalized card.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: It would have been a maz I think evil twinning
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: as a You could be the first.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: JR. Could be the first evil twin. There's good Jr.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: And then Evil JR.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: What happens when you're already the evil version? So then
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: they got to make the good version?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: They got to make the good version.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: No, well, never know what would JR Is evil twin
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: be named?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I would say the whole part of that joke dress
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: was that they'd have to make the good one. I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if you caught that or not, but that
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: was the whole you fixed it. I got there. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: don't know as he knows that, Oh boy, mess with
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: your thing.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: All?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Should we give the obligatory spoiler warning, Well, obligatory spoiler warning,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: we're gonna going to spoilers?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Which guy? What you want to do?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: First?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You want to do brobar Mars first, do you guys
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: want to do o Bro's Shadows? Perfect? Brob Mars is
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: we're starting out with brawl Nado.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: We had talked about this ahead of time, and uh,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: we weren't doing articles that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Oh we're not. Oh, we're just going straight to you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: want to go to arkan Orkana.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: That we talked about.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Do we want to do them all?
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Or?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I thought we were doing just the
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: article spoilers.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought to see at least some of
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: us around the same wave of length.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: He's driving in a car. You can barely pay attention
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to anything.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm here, I can barely pay attention to anything.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what the problem is. All right,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: don't hit the people? All right? So we want to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: go through there's a lot here? What this is a lot?
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: You guys hear that?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: No? What was that?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: You can't? Oh I can't. Oh yeah, that's it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: That's the sound.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, construction. I gotta get way up while there's a side.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Let's look at me.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Don't hit the construction people.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have us on the shoulder. I don't like this,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: all right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Well, anyways, let's go through.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go through. There's thirty nine cards here.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Hopefully there's a ton of spoilers. Menacing Wich three power
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: human witch after a creature has destroyed, gain one amber
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and draw card looks mighty. Menacing Ima untamed, it's a witch.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: How worried are you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: On tape card?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: That's not a typical tap power?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: No, are you playing a digeridu? Now what the hell
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: is going on?
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: That is literally the side of the road. I tell you,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: they have us on the shoulder.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: What's gonna happen next?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So what I what I like about menacing, which is
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that it is dual sided, so I can destroy my
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: own creature or I can destroy my opponent's creature. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: potential for amber burst there and card draw at the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: same time. It is coming in uncommon this this is uh,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: this is nicer, but you're gonna have to be doing
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: some work for it. It's not just playing creatures.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It also doesn't have the problem their effective needing to fight,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: which is nice, all right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: It doesn't I can drug cards of my opponent's turn too,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And I guess it sees itself after creature, it does
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: see itself, right, shape well, but it's destroyed after destroy
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: destroyed that that would trigger when they moved to the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: when they actually moved to the graveyard.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: So it's like the the creature who gains amber every
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: time a creature is destroyed and doesn't work when a
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: board white. So this one the same way. If a
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: board full board white comes down, you get nothing from
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: this yep.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, never mind, it doesn't see itself. Let's talk about
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: my Teak.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I still think this card has potential.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: It's kind of legs. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I like the car.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: If it's got support in the house, I like it
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: quite a lot. If it's got out of support, out
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: of house support, then it's okay.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: But it's it's pretty decent. It sounds like.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yep, because it doesn't matter if you're destroying theirs or yours. Yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: seems cool. My Teak. She's a three powered giant from Brobnar.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Play it has to play. That's important here. Play each
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of Mytik's neighbors capture two.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Is this the biggest powered giant we've ever seen? It's
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: an old drama giant, but I can be seen a
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: giant before in three power.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think most of the three two and three powers
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: are all goblins, right.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all they're all.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Probably sow you sound about right. But she's old. Oh yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: but she's barely a giant rights.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I think you're missing the obvious play on Reservist Jones here,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: but sure, yeah, it's.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Like a better version of Reservist Jones.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, old Grandma, old grandma. Somebody's grandma got an
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: art card?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Not maybe that was me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: You know what, that's a great idea. Maybe I should
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: buy that last art pledge and get Grandma's.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Spotrand spot and key for it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: This seems okay. I'm not mad at it. It delays
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the game, creates a couple ember pinatas somewhere with hopefully
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: hopefully a body two or two on the board, but
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: also we're in a meataw where we don't want bodies
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: on board and things are easily takable.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it does look like it's at a slot,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: so I don't think we're going to see a ton.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Of It's tough to tell, but I yeah, oh no,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it does say rare. Yeah it is a rare.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Rare is just deployed capture too, Yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: For each So that's it's it's going to be a
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: capture for it's each neighbor each No, there's no if
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: there's if you just play my tea on an empty
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: board at zero, but what neighbor two two four?
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: That is not an exciting No, it's not.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: From a Brodno perspective that just captures on play is
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: sort of rare. I guess they got a couple in
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: the newest.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it's coming back, so I mean that's pretty good.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: It's not this.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: This also isn't putting it on my teak, who's really weak.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: It's putting out the neighbors.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Right, so maybe you can get some big beefy brob
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in our boys around.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Her or dragons or something.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Dragons. Speaking of dragons, we got out war.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: What is.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Is that the the pronunciation up there? Six power dragon
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: from Obros after fight destroy an artifact or creature.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: A fight effect, right, so whatever it is a fight effect,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: but and no skirmish.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It does not have skirmish, which is sad, but a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: chance to go ahead and destroy like artifact control or
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: an additional creature control. It's not it's coming in uncommon.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: It's not the worst card. Six isn't also super like,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: it's not super big, it's not super small.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Well is this is there? Ready and use in hals right?
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, that we don't mean. I don't know if we
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: know from previous I haven't really looked. There is.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: No that's oberos, so we'd be looking. Is the arcane whatever?
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: What's that common action?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a common exhaust creature. Now, truck just hit that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to the game found and see what's
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: what's been previewed for them.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Thus, yeah, there are some already use. Okay, as far
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: as three power giants, we've had two one maybe the
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: worst giant ever printed scraper. A decent giant is Narplet
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: at three power.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And what you were thinking of was arcane relief Drazz.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That's a common action for over us with an amber
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: pip choose a friendly exhausted creature. Ready and use that creature?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Sweet.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that one was coming back, but
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: scroll this.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Is still like, I mean, he's bigger, so that makes
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: him better than so it's possible that it can do something.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: So it's after fight effect probably goes off.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: This is not impressive, it's well, but if I can
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: fight once and destroy, if I can go ahead and
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: destroy the creature that's there and destroy something else, or
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I can fight intelusive and destroy something, or I can
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Effect. It's mid right, Like, it's not oh my god,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: this is this is oh, this is gonna win me games.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, I agree with this is fine,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna be super said to have him
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: because he's got enough body and he has a fight
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: effect where they may not want to play creatures into him.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, probably good and sealed. Yeah, it's fine. Merchant
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: eva eva merchant h Now his ac works. Oh, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: It's showing a ship that's blowing up. It's emergency evacuation.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Man, I know it's evac thing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe he got shot in the air conditioner.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Now it's emergency h vac yep, November. Every time you
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: play it, play it is a Star Alliance card. Play
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: put an enemy creature onto its are into its owner's hand.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: If you do put a friendly creature, excuse me, put
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a friendly creature into its owner's hand. This seems fine
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: in general, I guess, like I mean, if there's some
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: play effects around, correct, it's creature couldet violet pall with this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's got the magical amber pip. Oh yeah, there is
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that cadet filet coming up in that card.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty they could could be pretty bonkers together
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: because she just readies them. It's not ready in us, right, yeah. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: so if they're in the same house, you're good to go.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: It seems fine.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: It's a rare day that you would discard this card. No,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I mean you might have tounce an off house creature,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: which would be bad though, So you might.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Have to bounce no creatures because your board's empty.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Could be that too.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just get a pip of vember to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: bounce a creature back to their hands.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I think as a common this is going to be
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: a You could also have something and it's fine.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So it's it's just not want to bounce it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: You ain't got to be heartbreaking to have heartbroken to
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: have some of these.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: No, it's Ewok's beloved. See.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be plenty of sea and shattered reality.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm seeing grafting onto other creatures. But ye,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: shall we go into Elders Trammel.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, elders Trammel from mars pep November. Every time you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: play it, play put an enemy creature face down under
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a friendly creature.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: So in a lot of ways, this is a very
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: similar scope as the previous card, Like, yeah, whether you
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: have to have a friendly creature where the other one.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't even want the friendly creature, but it's
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: got that weird tie amber pid deal with one of theirs,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: deal with on yours. But there's a lot of this
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: stuff that I was gonna set where it's and this
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: this is going to.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Get rewarded to graft, right, this is going to be
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: a weird one because it doesn't actually say graph So
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: why is that card under it? That's super confusing when
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: it doesn't have a reason to be under there. So
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: this needs some terminology editions.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: But graft his face up, Yeah, they the space down.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: What I don't this is just creating a random out
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: of play zone that makes no sense. Yeah, that's what
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I was saying.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: When the creature dies, the creature that's underneath just goes
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: to the discard pile.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, sure, because there's because that's generically where the
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: play cards go.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Well, if you graft a creature on to another creature,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: once that creature dies, doesn't that other card just go
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: to the discard pile unless.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: But a lot of cards that are putting cards under
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: them have specific constraints on what happens to them when
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: that card goes out of play. This is one that doesn't.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this this is a little bits, a little weird.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: This was also a preview card, so I would expect
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: it to change.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It is a common.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move into some untamed crave Ass Strike.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Pip November every time you play it, play.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Again, try it again, man, just try to crave.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I say strike. Do you want me to say crevas
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're looking for there? Strike?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just enjoying how you're doing this.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Ye, definitely, it's definitely crav.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Sounded to me with the audio like crave ass Strike.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said, totally what I said. The
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: real car title is Cravass Strike. However, whenever I play
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: this card, I will call it crave ass Strike because
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you get to pip a number every time you play it,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and you deal too damage to each creature not on
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: a flank.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Kind of like your old card. Wheres two on the
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: flank creatures and inside gay.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: What is it?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Poison?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Strike.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: What was it?
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: No, Plas is just gonna go ahead and do two.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Poison Wave does two to everything. That's just just two
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to the end creature.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: So no, yeah, well but I guess the two of
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: these and that witch and you're gonna make some banks.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: You'll make some space and draw a bunch of cards.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Little do you know? All the untamed creatures are massive.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: They're actually all nippilypes so they're all three power, but.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: You always get so they're fove so on its own.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: This card is just it's a little bit weaker and
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: poison way and it's whatever. But I mean, see, you
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: see sometimes you need.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: It, all right, all right, Leoni Leo, Lanni Leoni four
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: power auin from the fish House. At the end of
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: your turn. If Leanni is not on a flank draw.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Card nicethetic effect.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I'll take him.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: He seems fine, you know, more conditions than previous draw cards.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but daughter was two power.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: We've had this. This is a little different though. This
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: is not increase your hand size or hand size. This
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: is just draw card, which means doesn't interact with chains,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't interact with.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: You know what, It doesn't draw that dumb prophecy that
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: says when I draw card out side of my drug
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: cards face that it does interact with that. It's I
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: still think this is functionally just in that same generalhouse.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mothers.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the Amber Sky's logos car three power, one armor,
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: exhaust and draw card.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: At the end of your turn. It's a robot. I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: can't something the century right now. I can't remember the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: name of the card, but I know what if I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: saw it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I now no longer no card names.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I'm just getting more and more ready for playing foreign
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: language decks.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, there you go. Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: it seems good. I take it for a power creature.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Probably tips for a dollar, draws me a card, drug
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: gets me an extra card, maybe only the one time.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe it sticks around. I don't know.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Dress you were looking at articulated wren, which is also
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: three power cydor scientists had or just one. Yeah, at
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the end of your turn, you may exhaust a friendly
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: creature if you do draw cards. But we had seen
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: trying to find the other logos card getting sack on it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: We'd seen what what have we seen?
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Don't go on to that violet.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: That violet going on the list that we made. Going
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to say first trap list, the first trap list. Definitely
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that Violet going on the first trap list. This is
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: your art card. I'm sorry, maybe I'm not. I don't know.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Leo Lani guy, you might be on the first trap
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: list too, if that's your.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: If that's your jam, I mean he is smoldering so.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Or we don't know anything about fish biology biology.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Well, menacing, which we don't know. We don't know anything
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: about that, but.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Biologists.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I'm focused on something else. You keep going, boy, they
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: call that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: A marine bioactist two power a human with deploy from
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Star Alliants play ready of each of Cadet Violet's neighbors
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: has the to do stupid things.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is just yea, this is just
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: the Mars guy again.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, because this is where I was looking
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: and it was the sort that's going to allow me
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: to take it for my discard pile. Titan Librarian is
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: a four power logos called a different card at the
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: end of your turn. If Titan Librarian is not on
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a flank archive a card that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That technology or the terminology is kind of the same there,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: but drawing a card versus archiving card.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Efficiency, much like the archiving a card if your opponent
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: has doesn't have disruption. Actually, the archiving is probably stronger
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: because you're gonna build them even.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I hate to tell you every fucking back nowadays has disruption.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is true. I feel like every that's gonna
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: be like a five or six value car, assuming that
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: they have good in the house to go with her.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: She's also seems very good. Yeah, well that's probably a
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: rit for.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: That card rare they're actually after after viewing grim reminders,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: that might be actually a good idea, Yeah, because that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: violence rare dress car. All right, my co mirror man,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: what is what these cards? I hate them? My So
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Jillium Iso Mi Coe Gilliam Is it my so or
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: my co Jake Gillenhall. One power funus from from from Untamed.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You get a Pippo. This is for a while since
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: we've had a creature that you automatically get a pip
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: a Vember on. Each friendly creature gets plus one power
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: for each ember in your pool. Each friendly oh, including
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: including Jake Jillenhall here, unless there's a car that gets
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you something for having power, like right is in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: set or something nobody cares. Next, well, but hold on,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he makes a car. He has the ability to make
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: cards harder to deal with.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, are you now a power counter apologist?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: No?
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, some more of your.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Other cards, right, no big deal, right this but this
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: isn't plus one power counters there, it's.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Not even permanent. So as soon as you forge a key, bam,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: all you guys are damage on the die. Wow, this
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: was great.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all this is true. I might hide.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: This is like this turns everybody into sort of a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: mushroom man or whatever. And a bunch of the junk
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: cards have this kind of they get power for some
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: reason and they all stink. This might.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: But if you look at if you look at the
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: untamed that's above, when others are destroyed, there's an effect,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and then do two to each.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: This one might only be around because of the amount
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: of power he's receiving from the first one, So it's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: like an abusive relationship. They probably both die and you
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: get nothing. All right, sorry, Like Star Hugo Star two
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Power Elder from mars Play, discard a random card from
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: your hand Flan if what this is a weirdly templated
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: discard a random if their discarded card belongs to Mars
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: gain one otherwise, purge the discarded card. Your opponent repeats
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the preceding effect, even how it.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Was changed in the write up. If the discarded card
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: belongs to Mars gain one, otherwise, purge the discarded card.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: So they yeah, it's probably meant to be that. So
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: you're gonna They're gonna discard a random card if it
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: belongs to Mars gained dollar, otherwise, purge it. So this
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: is clipped wings and doesn't do the same to yourself though,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: but it starts.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: With yourself discard a random card from your hands.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Well, we think, actually, I'm not loving this, not hating it,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: because you you know, like a lot of cards that
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: discard puts through your hand, you get to handcraft a
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: bit to get to that.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think this card is going to be the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: same card at all when we finally do see it.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Could be. I'm not I don't know.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It's worded. It's worded really funny, so who knows what
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: this comes out actually saying Okay.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Well, but yeah, I could see the exciting to say
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I see that it could get some hand disruption and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: maybe you get a buck if.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: With it, but it's to you as well. Yeah, like yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: which if you're limited, if you're in an open hand,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: like if you have a full smite.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: You can't you can't probably play him. If you don't,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: this will be a good card and sealed because then
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: you can you play him. Have nothing but burnished nickels
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: in your hand and you're like, hah, fucker, hopefully.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: We don't have more burnish nickels. Thank you for the donation.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: On the inside a Shadows card with a pip of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Ember with three enhanced capture icons. Yep, move one Ember
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: from a friendly creature to your pool.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is generally unaggressive.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: But you really like the capture icons.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: No, h Drascar will give it four.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: It has the common slot union amber pip. You have
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: three A.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: The problem with it it means you could I mean,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I guess it's a lot of cafter pips.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: If you see something like your pip on it, it's
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: basically steal one, assuming you have a creature and play.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: If it has like ditched the loot is back in set,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: then it has a little bit more value. But yeah,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: right now this is not super exciting.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Well, we do know what kind of is on set
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: for Shadows. Let's see if anything exciting uh is in there.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Let's say check cap braves disabled security, keep the change,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Kerwallop mm hma zero trine another Shadows card one power
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: AI Thief, Elusive, reveal your opponent after reap, Reveal your
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: opponent's hand, purge one of the revealed cards.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yep, zero trying it's AI.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hm, I get the joke. It's a rare too. Yeah,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I do like the That is a crazy strong reaponability.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's crazy strong. I mean he's not making it,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: but it's crazy strong.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I mean he's must kill which yeah, he's elusive too,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: but I think the damage is just going to He's
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: just gonna get pipped out and just died.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Shadows is not known.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is true.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: The harmon Street then stops.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yield.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Sweet, make sure you stop him.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: I got some gas. I needed gas, So don't worry.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Don't worry.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Good now, guys, we're not worried.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Marauding talent and pip a Vember every time you play
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: it from the Orberos play.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's just gonna get hit
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: with ker wall up. That's that's what I'm seeing here.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe key, your opponent has put an enemy creature on
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: top of its owner's deck.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is bubbles like it's as it goes on.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: The beginning of the game.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love it.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: It gotta it gets you, It gets you a pip Avember.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: It's not terrible having mult of these later in the
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: game and you're one sided doing that stupid fish card
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: that puts all the creatures on top of the deck
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: is pretty good. That really slows down decks.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: It's disruptive there.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, early game bad. Like game fine, okay, yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Trans Rift, tran Transcrucible, Left Trans Siberian Orchestra. It's from
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the Fish. Get a pip November. Every time you play it,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: player play, each player discards a random card from their hand.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Are you for real?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Am I for real? I mean a little bit like
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: this card is.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Not good, especially in comparison to other cards that already
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: exist in this game, like having to randomly discard like
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: sometimes is meaningless to potentially find because in zeal you
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: always have jump button arc on like yeah, oh you
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: have having two of these in your hand? Whether are common?
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Like you just discard the other one randomly and you're like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: well this was dumb.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah that this because I dumb because ideally you'd hold
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: it till the end play it, so it's acting as
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: a discard, like but you can't guarantee it.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: You can't keep that self handcraft with stuff like this. Correct,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: just dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb on it all in.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: All in the knull. I dig the art for this card.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I will say a good thing about it. I dig
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: the shadow, the shadows smoke Dragon kind of cool. It's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: from Oberro's five Power Dragon. If you are overwhelmed, each
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: time a card would leave your opponent's hand, purge it instead.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Oh ship, So this needs hold.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: On clarification playing leaving your hand boom.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is is is also putting a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: card underneath a prophecy.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Like it's leaving your hand.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, literally everything like if you if if you are.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Overwhelmed and they drop this down, their only choice hold time,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: fight and kill all in the knoll because every single
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: card that they play is purged instead.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: There is there is something out for a while.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: But yes, this was a big, big question.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: There is like some awful dream of this plus some
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: way of being able to give your opponent creatures and
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: ward them or some crap and then give this guy
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: what's the upgrade that makes them invulnerable? Yeah, so you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: like you goes from this guy and have a couple
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: of crappy creatures, you give them and then just like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: find somebody to force them to keep them.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It just becomes the lot of game you've ever played.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a lock out disaster. It's way too
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: many cards.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: For it, dollar for however, eighteen.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: But that card, I mean, that's a that's an exceptional
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: must be answered when it hits the board card. How
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: do you some more?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Are you able?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Well, you call the house that you have creatures in
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: and you fight into it until you're not.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: If you have an open board, that's it, right, Like
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: if I have no creature, Like if I'm boardless and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I and my opportent plays this, I just shake hands.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Then you're not overwhelmed, and you're not overwhelmed.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, if you are overwhelmed, yep, you got it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: So I mean that's like this car is definitely answerable.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It is. And the ideal situation, Okay, it's like, here's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: two creatures in two different houses. Both under five. But
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: the short answers you're gonna take one fight it and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: then you're not overwhelmed. This is really an answer to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: a big board. You're outboarded elusive.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the thing is. Can you make them elusive?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Can you give them wards? Can you.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, what can you What can you
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: do to protect them?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What can I do to make it so damage
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to my opponents?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Graft his text on to an artifact, I don't know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: all kinds of silly stuff potentially this. I mean, it's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: a good file of text that will be game disruptive
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: if it ever actually occurs. Easy to play around them, Yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: all right, Sweet Brawl Nato Pip November. Every time you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: play it from Brabner, play a purge of friendly creature
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: and an enemy creature.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: You may repete this effects as many times as you like,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: as long as it's possible to repeat the entire effect.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean in this current world of you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: don't want any creatures anyways, because you're just losing to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: cryptic collapses and.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Trunk's creeds. Yeah, let's play them in purge of like it.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I immediately saw Fiery Jark here, which
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: was the four Power of Goblin creature from Brabner. This
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: just we're coming in. I mean, Proul Nato. I love
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: the Sharknado reference. It's purged, so purges better than destroy.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: So puring your own stuff though, is it can be tough.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: It can be tough, but there's also junk they can't
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: steal if I purge it first.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, but lame stuff and perge their good stuff.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: It says you may repeat this back as many times
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: as you like, so you're in control there. But there
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: may be times where you just have to get rid
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: of something good.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: But you can't.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: You can't Trunk screed my creatures that are purged, So
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I suck at trinks creed.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Well and here this is it's another one when you're
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: looking at how the's wording and how it plays into
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: this game. This is directly purging, so it ignores destroyed effects.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is actually one hundred percent true.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: So terror Katta who named this, you know who fired
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: immediately three Power Goblins. Yeah, he needs to not make
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: any more Brobnar names because this is ridiculous. Three Power
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Goblin from Brobnar destroyed destroy each artifact. That's a double
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: edged sword.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: As long as you don't have artifacts, it starts fine.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just say as long as I don't as
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: long as it doesn't hit my all weight it hits mine,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: hopefully I don't have any.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. Like in a deck with artifacts,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: this is an instant discard. Yeap, So kind of a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: mediocre creature because of that regard.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: So what's interesting is that early on I'd seen a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: lot of grafting of cards and creatures, and most of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: these previous up until this point really don't have grafting.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: We'll start to see a little bit more, but it
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: is interesting to see.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: The graft stuff came out and people and that stuff handed.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Out to correct, which is why we're not talking right now.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: All right, charging Ogre, I thought it was yep.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Yep, where do we leave off? Charging charging Ogre?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Hold on?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I lost him?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Him six power Brobnar Giant, He enters play ready and enraged.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Common slot. Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: It reminds me of mob except it's not guaranteed to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: have a million of them.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Yep. It's a right, It's just it's creature control. I'm
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: going to kill.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't hate this. This is like, yeah, half
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: a ganger chieftain.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah to kill spell it's yeah, might as well say
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the real sick damage ready target creature.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, remembering Belligerent Guard from Equa is what I was picturing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: A Bligerent guard was eight power but enters play ready,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: not enraged. But your opponent draws a card. So here
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: you're entering and.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Rage that.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: There's a there's a Sanctum card for power entrance play
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: ready and enraged.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: What is the guy is like for pie my brothers?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that isn't that the whatever Horde or whatever?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: That was pretty good, but they were they were guaranteed
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to have multiples because weren't you able to you're.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Thinking of angry mob again, that's not yeah, I said
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: the ze Oh yeah yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I mean this.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Is creature control. I can fight into something ideal six
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: damage to it. I can immediately answer, yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: If you can bounce it, he gets to fire again.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, deflect. I thought Sanctum was gone yet somehow they
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: appeared in this art.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Because they're not merged and there are other places.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Now, oh got it? Okay, another brob Nart card. This
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: a common.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Gizzleheart sell.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Is that is that a is that an enhanced? Is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: that an.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Enhanced and damage BIPs? Yep, yes on a common.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna see it and then the Uncommons
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: they're showing up with two. Oh, they're gonna be there
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: are going to be a lot more enhanced this similar
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: to Amber Sky. So you can get some chords on that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that either, Like
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: it seems like a good idea until like it's just
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: like noah, I just play my whole deck and I'm
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: able to do stuff, so well, anyway, go ahead, but
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: we'll finish it up after all, right, Play a purge
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: a Brobnart card from your discard pile. If you do,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: graft an enemy creature onto an enemy creature, enemy card,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: enemy card. Sorry, Oh I like the.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I love the play effect
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: that much.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Well, if I purche a Brobnark card from my discard pile,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I can then graft a card onto and I can
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: graft any card I want onto your profits you enemy
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: creature onto an enemy creature, oh, onto an enemy card.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: No oh oh it does say card. Yeah, so yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can I don't think you
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: can graft the prophecies because they're not in play.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Because it's not it's not a card.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: It's still not a card, right, But I could graft
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: a creature on, Yeah, I can't graft to an artifact.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: What's interesting to me is that I'm purging a Brobner card,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: so thinning down my Brobner with this. But I have
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: the enhanced pip of Brobner.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Which typically I have more and I have more options,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: So I mean, but.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: I mean I do.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But ideally, where I've seen house pips really do wonders
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: is when I can have.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: More. Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: I love this play effect because of the cost.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Well maybe it's a maybe it's a pipped card in
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: another house that's in Brobner.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Well technically yeah, and now you have to purge it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Did they get this play effect technically?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: If you read the card, it says purge a Brobner
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: card from a discard pile. So if my Honan is
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: playing brob there I can purge their Brobner card and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: then graft an anything.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: But that's an ideal situation that will also probably change.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: But that's what's worded.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Anything like it is traditionally that it's purging some Brobnar
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: cards is going to be fine. Like if you have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: a triple deflect deck, you know what, you're purging your
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: other deflex right, and you're just fine with it. But
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I I I don't, I mean, I'll have this is
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: a card. I feel like I need to play with
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: a little bit to decide if I like it or not.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: But I'm I like the house in hands little if
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: you're on the play effect.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Purging it, and I'm gonna place it on your ARCon card.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: There you go, crush the Merciless. Five power giants still
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: in Brobner after a creature has destroyed fighting crushed the Merciless. Ready,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: crush the Merciless. I feel like this is already a
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: brob Nark.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Card definitely had similar effects.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Who is it? Something in Bangsong? But no, there was
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: a card in was it? There's it's a deal, there's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: after you. There is one that said after yeah, what's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: that one? Some something and something Bungles or something like that.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: It was Brox and Bungle. Isn't that it? Oh?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, somehow you find skirmish on this guy
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: and he becomes a monster, but so Brox.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: And Bongles has seven power giant Goblin after fight. If
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: this was the first time Broux and Bongle was used
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: this turn you made Ready and Reap with it.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's similarly a little different for sure, but this
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: is uh yeah, like, if you can give this guy skirmish,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: he'd be a monster, but otherwise, yeah, he's a card.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Seems okay, though he'd probably kill something and Ready and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Tips all right, the Unbreakable three power two armor Goblin
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: still in Brobner after fight war the Unbreakable and another
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: friendly creature.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: So these are both commons. You could potentially put the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: ward on Crush Crush. Yeah, it's it's not gonna be consistent.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: And then like if they have no creatures, like Crush
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: is still just a tip over Reap, I don't I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. And this guy, he's a small creature, has to.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Be able to fight.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: He does absorb five damage.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hard to kill.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Back, but it is hard to kill.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not I don't know, not again, not thrilled with this,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: but whatever, Yeah, I.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Mean I can feel your whatever.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Very it'll be I mean, it's part of a if
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: you have a big Brobner board. You get to keep
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: your robbin Er board longer, and it can win some
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: games that way. But it's also not you know, from
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: what we've seen, it's not doing enough to be like, wow,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: this is going to be No, it's not something super yeah,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: more relevant see maybe ward you know.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: M h hey, drazz your dad dress. I've said this
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: every you're driving drive somewhere else.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: No, that was me, but uh he is.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: He is right.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: The idea for awarding another friendly creature can be useful
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: on the witch status from earlier that we're talking about.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: But glitch mob.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Okah, y yep, you're three power Beast experiment to play
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: enhanced with two capture PEPs. A lot of capturing already
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: in this set. I guess it's only really been two cards.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: At the end of your turn, move Ember from a
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: neighboring creature to your pool. Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: So you are guaranteed to get it if you have
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Amber on the board, which isn't that unlikely with what
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: we're seeing. So this card is you know, play game
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: one or two, fine, and then repeat.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: So game one it's it seems similar to on the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: inside where it had been.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: But this chain repeats, which yes better and could reap
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: and things outside. It's a creature, so there's some negative
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: connotations to that. In the current ARCon.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: World, can be stolen.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. This guy seems fine, not amazing,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: just fine.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Next, I just read a keyword that made me angry.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Uh glorious retreat enhanced with two Mars house PEPs in
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: the uncommon slot. That's then my and then my rage
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: boiled over. Omega, Yeah, Bega. The next words I better read,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: go you win the game or I am going to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: flip the fuck out.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Well it doesn't say that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Fuck play. Put each Mars creature into its owner's hand,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: destroy each creature.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Kaboom was a good card. This is way better.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yep, Oh, because Kaboom put them in there.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Like, this is way better because you also archived your
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: opponents Mars preachers. So if they had Mars they were like, oh,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: I'll just leave them sit there until I need them.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Now they're choking their hand. If they have Mars Preachers,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: oh this card, I'll take five of them.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Also, But this is this is good. The difference is
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: cooking yourself. But I guess you can go back to Mars.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Next turn is because it's Omega, so as soon as
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: you play it, your turn done.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you got the choice of fight if you don't.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: You can do creatures if you don't want them. Yeah, yeah, right,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: you could hand choke yourself.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: You can hand choke yourself. Kaboom had three chains, so
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: this does not have three chains but instead has but
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: instead it has two Mars Enhanced Oh.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying it's not way better than Kaboom.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: It's definitely got two Mars Enhancement pips. This card. Yeah,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I mean I'll take three of them. I don't know
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: if I'll ever get three of them because that's six
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Mars pips.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: And my down that's this card seems solid, like I'm not.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: This is probably a five. This isn't the five realm.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Did you guys see the artwork that was on Battlefleet?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: I mean you might have played that once or twice
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: with fraud three times.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, are you saying these.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: What has it come to with the lost things?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? What does it come to?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: You mean, well, we just we had details.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: So like you you asked your you know, eight year
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: old to paint battle Fleet and I gave you this.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I don't even think. I don't think it's this eight
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: year old. I think this is my two year old nephew.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: No, no, and I don't mean this.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I guess. Sorry. These are beautiful watercolors.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's just it is. The style isn't there, And
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I guess being hard on the the artist here because
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do this at all.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: We got to work in the morning.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, we got work in the morning,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: but I clicked out to see who the artist was.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: And this doesn't even seem like a real name. Sorry
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: if this is you and you're listening to this, but
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: this doesn't seem like a real name. Pedro Pizza Rollo, Oh,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Piazza rollo.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, like again, it's a tales I don't have.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: But I just I feel like the style choice was
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: very different from Battlefleld.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like you get a.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Lot of harsh edges and a lot of colors. Yes,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: this is very this is.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: Mars. Card feels very traditionally marsie to me.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Three Martian scientists, He's from Mars. After reap, you may
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: graft another friendly creature onto Hazelfras hazle frazzle. If you
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: do already a non scientist creature, yeah, that's that's very
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: that's very Mars.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: At least this is graft another friendly so it can
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: be a Mars creature.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: This is why would I want to graft another creature?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Why would I want to take creatures off the board
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: to ready to.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: See a good creature effect? That's good.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Well you get to you get to ready a non
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: scientist creacher. Okay, so it's got. It's got to be
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: in Mars because otherwise I get jack ship.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: If you grab your whatever your broad now creature from
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: earlier to ready your other good Mars card, you're fine.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Right, But I'm saying, like the Myers card, I'm ready
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and has to be in Mars because I read does
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, just like just like I learned earlier
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: this week that youngest bever just says it's neighbor can fight.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: It doesn't ready and fight. So if it's already used
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: and it is a reap effect, so it's slow, it's yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to give up a creature,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: it's mid. This is a very mid all right, thank you?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Uh brain slug two power beasts Brain slugs, non bees, snighbors,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: gain in vulnerable.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Can we can we talk about that in relation to
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: all in the no is not a beast.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: So yeah, there you go.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I mean then you just kill brain slug.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: Well then you rule six. Yeah, so yeah, Brain's lug
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: is the easy target here, right right, So but you
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: put him next to a taunter, he's tough.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I just want to I'm not gonna go through this card,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: but I would just like to say Data Analytics has
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: made it into KeyForge. That's all I'll say on that one.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Grave Glips glib Glibs, Grave Glibs three power Martian Soldier Elusive.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: After re grab the graft the top card of your
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: opponent's discard pile onto Grave Glibs. Each card Undergrave Glips,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: you may discard a card I dig him, except it's
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: a reapability. I guess he's elusive. I don't know. I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: want this card to be good.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: This is where high fazzl I can go ahead and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: use the reap to Rea Pierre.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: And then I can just discard all the ship cards.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: It doesn't draw as fast as you wanted to. It
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: kind of reminds me of that Star Lines creature that
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: you could discard, but you got to read.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Draw m Was it a Helmsman Helmsman Spears or was
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: that the one that moved around?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Now I think that's right.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to like this card in all the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: way make.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: This card, but also you're grafting from their discard pile,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: which unless they're playing a recursion deck, doesn't mean that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: much because as they kill this card, they just go
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: back to the discard pile.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Helmsman Spears was two power after fight after red discard
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: any number of cards from your hand, drawing a card
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: from each card.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: It still just kind of reminds me that because you
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: can make it so you always get to discard all
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: your Mars, or you get to discard all your Marsh
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: cards to try to draw more Mars on the next.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I'm also a little bit.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: It's grafting the top card of your opponent's discard to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: grab more with a potential to graft multiple cards onto it.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: It's slow, but Christmas tree Land, you know, I love
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: to be able to have multiple cards grafted and then too, yeah.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: You can it lets you stay forever in theory, stay
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: on target. But yeah, he dies and they get other
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: cards back. So that part, like his graft location, makes
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: it that I don't actually like this card because he's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: grafting from discard and that's doesn't seem important to me.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: At this point.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like, well, you gotta be way cooler than
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: it actually is. Well, let's look at graft on the
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: next card Loud Noises from Shadows, No Pip November to play.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: It makes Wookie sad, but play you may graft a
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: creature from your hand onto a friendly creature if you
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: do deal damage equal to the grafted creature's power to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: an enemy creature, So you do get some possible efficiency
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: depending on what's in your hand, right, I.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Mean, and it's you know, hopefully you're using an off
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: house creature.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: That's that's the hope. That's what I'm saying that where
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: you're getting And then I mean, the thing that is
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: here and we haven't seen enough of to know if
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: it's good good is like you graph this onto your
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: graph clips and now he has another card under him
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: for making it so you can discard more when he
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: reads in the future card that makes my keys cost
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: less for each card I have grafted, Like, we.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Haven't seen enough value out of the grafted cards for
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: mean to like this card, yep, at least you are
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: picking what you're graphing.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's only a handful of cards where the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: graft is somewhat meaningful.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the graft and I've
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: read is graft at random, right, And that is real
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: bad because I guess it could hit something important. Grafting
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: at random from your own stuff is like playing token creatures, right.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: It's like if you have a couple of good cards
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: and you accidentally graft them into places that you can't
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: get them back from.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: We also haven't seen any cards that's like take your
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: grafted cards under your hand or anything like that.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of return. This creature in every card
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: over and.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Under underneath him a General Sherman of some sort. Our
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: General Sherman esque wouldn't.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: It's like a transporter platform.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: But there you go. Yeah, car graft cards. I don't know,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: and we're just not seeing enough.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like this and a lot of other effects
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: and some of the reprinting shadows is this set is
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: tilting even more into random talk deck bullshit and see
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: if it wins you the game or not? Right, Because
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: we're grafting at random from DA's all the time. We've
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: got cards that are discarding at random all the time,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: and we got we've seen at least a few cards
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: that are playing at random from your opponent. It's just like, so,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm playing a card that is random, right,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: and we're just throwing more and more dice rolls at
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: the outcome of the game. And that isn't.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: Fun Now, it's fun. It isn't good? Can be fun? Well,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: what's the result of the game. Isn't the critical thing
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: and the experience of the game. The randomness is fun,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: But in a game where all rewards are based off
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: of outcome, it's bad.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: M all right, Well, let's talk about Danny Tanner. Danny
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Tanner wells that is two power elf fief from Shadows
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: again another uncommon. He only gives you one Shadows pip.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: He must be super powerful to only give you one.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: He comes with skirmish and then after he fights, you
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: can discard a non Shadows card from your hand if
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you do. Ready another friendly Shadows creature.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: Hey the first like ready and use shadow effect that
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: we've seen now.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and unfortunately it comes on kind of a low
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: power card. If you get two of these, you can
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: you get two of these on the board with no no.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: They leave this guy alive for some reason and you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: got your zero try and AI card. Then you slap
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: him down, fight with this guy and be like wow
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: perchur card.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah good.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: I mean like this can loop into things.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Two power, so it oftentype just leaves the board as
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: soon as it got there. Sometimes but if that skirl,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: so at least it doesn't die on the fight. It
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: didn't die on a fight. But I feel like there's
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: so many cards that are just like I.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Feel like he can do some fun things. But again
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: I don't see him as being critical to success of
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: the deck. But he can do some fun things, so
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: he'll be fun and see him.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Danny Dimes. You guys know Danny Dimes
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: down on Fourth Street. Dominic Dominic Dimes. I'm sorry, Dominic
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: and from shadows Elf thief play graft an enemy creature
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: onto Dominic Diames destroyed. If it's your term, put Dominic
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Dime and each card under it into their owner's hand.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, okay, so this.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Worse what's his name from? Anyway? Dar Google is worst
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Dart Google no, No, it's.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: An enemy creature. It's it's low bounce, that is what
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Gus, and I just have to make sure I don't
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: destroy my turn.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: But there he is.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: He has the impact to do that, so it's a
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: little weird.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: There is some kind of weird fun combo potentially where
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: you can graft a ton of stuff under him that's yours,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: and then they all come back to your hand when
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: you destroy him. He's like a weird archive.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Mm.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: They can't discard it if it's under Danny times huh.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: But they can by grafting Danny dimes to their own
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: card and then a card that's grafted that has other
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: grafted cards. I'm assuming those grafted cards go into the
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: discard that we don't have and it's.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Destroy it on your turn. So if it's destroyed on
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: any other turn, Yeah.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: So what do.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what she's saying is the first grafted creature from
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: your opponents there, but with a chance to take care
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: and make the archive.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: But you have to kill him in the same turn.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: That seems like a lot.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Now he seems never on. Yeah, after he does, it's.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Got to be on your turn. Otherwise all those cards
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: just go to the discard Alvira Human Thief A Laura.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Is this like bad Pennies?
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: It's yes, well it's bad Penny's cousin, right, two power
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Human Thief. After reap, look at look at your opponent's hand.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: You may put a card from it on the bottom
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: of their deck if you do draw a card. I
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: feel like this deck with this set was designed of like, oh,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: creatures are going to be on the board and matter.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody realized how little creatures are
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: on the board nowadays, but it happens, but it does.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is not a card. And see it'll
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: be fine, right if you get to reap with this,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: you have you get the profit effect, which is whatever,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: and then you draw card. Okay, I mean at least
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: they like took that first effect which was on some
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: other shadows card Bondsman or something, right, Bondsman Belsman or
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: something that's this reap effect, and they went, yeah, that
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: didn't do enough, so let's make.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: It draw card dude, Okay, fair enough because they said.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Not good enough.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bondsman Belvin is after fight, after reap, look
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: at the top card of your opponent's deck. You may
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: discard it. This is not from the top card from
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: hand from this is better.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, this is a good reape effect
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: from hand.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah if it makes it. But let's see. You gotta
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: scroll down, scroll down, scroll Oh, calm officer, Dave or human,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: there's a wicked, wicked awesome play after fight after reap.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Put a card from your hand on the bottom of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: your deck.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Draw card. This is this is half a reiteration fight reap,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: half a reiteration. I like this card. I'm be fine
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: to have some of these.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Three powers a little you know, a little rough. But hey,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: hey that's right in there with all the other com officers.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Everything seems so quite as good as it's a play effect.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: To never mind, this is pretty good. It's a play effect.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's play effect, play effect. If it was
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: just after fight, after repvictory. If he makes it, it's good.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: But it's a play effects. You're at least getting it once.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Mikayla's call from fish play. Look at the top three
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: cards of your deck. Put any number of those cards
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: on the bottom of your deck, and just card the others.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Repeat the preceding effect on your opponent's deck. I can
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: dig this.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: Is this a rare?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Of course? Is why would it not be? I couldn't
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: possibly get multiples of these?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get some efficiency, you get some disruption. It
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: seems it seems pretty good with an amber pip out
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: of sort of sort of, it's not as good, but
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: we have Darlance, No, the shadows guard. Look at the
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: top three discard one put the other two back.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Cop is that the lizard? No, it's a action. Oh
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: that I can't put my finger on.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: It's this discard. Seems like it's it's efficiency and disruption.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: So but it's a rare, so you'll get you'll get one. Yeah,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: so that's a shame. This would have been cool to
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: have in multiples.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: But no multiples here, no short short set list. You
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: get multiple rares.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: In this size, Yeah you do, but not typically the
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: same rares. But I don't know if you.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Actually want a ton of those, because it's still kind
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: of slow. I tak to draft disruption. Could it could
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: deal with a number pip, but it would be too
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: good then I don't know. Maybe Koelo.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: It's a beast with four power still in fish with
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: skirmish after fight graft an enemy creature card from play
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: onto Koelo. For each card under Coelo capture one.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: An enemy card doesn't say creature it does.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: You can graft whatever you'd like, even even their prophecy cards.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I'm putting that out there.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then capture. This is a solid fight effect, actually.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Skirmish, and with skirmish this is this is a solid
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: creature right like this, This is a fight effect you're
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: happy to probably trigger. Mm hmm.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: Don't don't hate that card a little slow still still
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: got a landing fight with them, but go to fight effect.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I had a name for this next card. One more
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Oh nope, that was that's not nope. Can't do that.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: One can't do that. One can't do that. One can't
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: do that one ah, Ancient do Stalker. This one makes
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: me nervous to power human Witch elusive. After Reap grafted
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: a card from your hand onto Ancient do Stoker. If
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: there are two or more untamed cards under Ancient Do
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Stocker game two.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Horrible teams terrible Maybe if this card came with a
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: bunch of on tamed house enhancements so you had even
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: more untamed cards. Now there there is the world where
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: well this isn't even optional. You have to graft.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, if you have to, you have to graft, and
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: if you only gained the extra if there are two
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: or more untamed not even if there are some or more.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: And that's already hard enough.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: You're you're thinking about it. We're thinking about too much
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: about that. The second half is too hard to get right,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: which I agree, But think about it just as this way.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: Elusive two power after read sloppy discard a car.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sloppy.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Pip, And is that really how we should think about
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: when it's grafting from hand? Just do the thing, sloppy pip,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: you have a choice. Yeah, sloppy pip. Sloppy pip, sloppy pip.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: That that's exactly I mean, unless it actually has an effect,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: like again through cars in your deck. You may have
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: put something else under de stocker on a not on
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: tame term that wasn't on tamed card, which means when
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: you come back to her, it may actually be worth
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: dunking a bad on tamed creature to make it read
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: game three right. That may be worth more than playing
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: you're pointless on tame card.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: But in general, don't want this basically just to me
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: says read sloppy.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Sloppy pip, sloppy pip with possible unrealistic upside.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: I generally like reap discard a card, So don't hate that.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: Actually I hate it less when I read it that way.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: Then I read it as we're actually trying to do
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: Part B.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can get on board with all of what
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: you said. I'll just have to get used to that
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: graft just being sloppy pips.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: Imagine long sloppy pip.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Long sloppy pip of things that are not in a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: in a neat organized pile. Uh, that's okay, I'll survive.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: I still don't know how this is.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: You know, it would be awful.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Would be if they were, like, you know what, we're
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: gonna put Geistoid in this set with a bunch of
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: haunted effects. Oh that would suck, right, because it's.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: Hard to get haunted. Hard to get haunted. Oh I like,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: but I like the thought of that too. Like against
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: Old gr and you're grafting all your opponent's cards and
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: places and they can't get haunted because other cards are
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: just stuffed in dumb places.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: That would be cool if like gr had a meaningful
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: place in the meta right now.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: Well, we all saw that there's a preview card out
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: there that lets you target prophecy cards. I don't know
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: where that came from, but I didn't see that.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember where it came from either,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: walk Bot.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're not covering those tonight.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: I know we're not covering those tonight. We are now
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: because we're just because we're covering other stuff. It is
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Crown Eater. It is a five five power two armored dragon.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: So it's an oboras play graft the top card of
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: your opponent's deck onto Crown Eater. So random great, random
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: discard after fight perject card from under an artifact Comma, creature,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: comma or prophecy.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: So here you this is a way to target cards
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: that are grafted or put under a prophecy. But it's
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: an after fight effect, so it has some loss of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: strength because of that.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of concern about it just being too slow.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: And although I do think this is a I for
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: adding how you deal with something that's under a card
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: that isn't in a play zone per se, which is
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: all these all of this stuff, This is kind of
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: an elegant way to say that anything that's under and
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: in one of these Wonky on a play zones, because
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: this works for targeting cards under jar Google. This works
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: for targeting cards under that big fish that we just mentioned.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: General Sherman, General Sherman. Yeah, it would target cards under
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: Crazy Killing Machine.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Targets a lot of cards underneath other cards, not.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: Crazy Killing Machine, Spangler box.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: That's they're kind of the same. They do different things,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: but the arts quite similar.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: They're both questionable.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Logos are questionable.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Those art effects, Now, sheep, were you trying to were
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: you trying to go in to vandalize earlier? For the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: Shadows card, Look at the top three cards opponents discard
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: and want and put the others, But that's of your
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: opponent's deck.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well this other one does the top three of
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: your bone stack.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Plus plus top three years.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: But you can't put any of them back, right, It's
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: either discard or put them at the bottom. Yeah, So
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: in that regard, like if you're like, hey to it
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: in my creed ah crap stuff on the bottom or
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: whatever your twenty power card is. But yeah, it'll be
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see if there are more crown
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: Eater type effects in this set that are like this,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: where it can make sense that it's also targeting grafted cards,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: so the whole undercard mechanic, it does make it feel
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: more elegant to me than them, just like adding random
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: can destroy cards under prophecy. This is anything under.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: Right, because if it's only prophecy, is just targeting as
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: sets and that's no good.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: So the problem is it's like we've only seen one. Yeah,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I need, well, we need we need a lot like
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: this and it's not an uncommon and it's a fight effect,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: which means it's not meaningful enough to stop PV for
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: any regard. No, that's what I'm saying. We need a
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: lot more of these in a lot different fashion. And
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many were actually going to get.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is for them to actually build a
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: set that just counters the last set, I mean it's not.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: I mean they've been doing it, but it's not. Now.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: They built a set to counter GR or at least
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: attempt to.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: It didn't.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Well, right, it didn't. But they tried.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: Amber Skies didn't.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: But PVD, well, PV just said, fuck it, we're not
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: going to allow you to play stuff. GR said, I'm
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: going to play all the things by myself, and then
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: PV is like, well, you're just not going to play anything. Yeah,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: cool cool.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, See when you were looking at Michaela's call, I
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: went more into unfathomable with drawn down in Deep Dive.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: So drawn down is look at the top three cards
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: of your opponent's deck, discard one, put one in the bottom,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: and put one on the top of their deck.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, so this card is more in line with
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: other fish cards. But you're right, I didn't think about those,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: and there's a reason, yes, because the fish generally weren't
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: good enough to care of. Well. I remember once upon
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: a time we thought that would be a possibility, and
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: that key sheet never did a damn thing. So we
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: don't have any key sheets yet either, which is awesome.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: No knowing of the key sheets, so I.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Guess we'll have to wait and see.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: But those are your preview cards as of right now.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: We don't know where drafts car went. Hopefully is okay?
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we didn't touch this stuff put out by
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: other content creators, which was I don't know. It feels
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: like a lot of random graft for not a lot
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: of replayability. This set is giving me a Wins of
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: Exchange token vibe where there is a lot of like
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: did I graft the right card or not? Or did
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I graft my important card at random for a mediocre
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: effect and feeling like you lost the game, like you
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: tokenized your good creature and you wanted to not write like.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: It's It's an interesting statement because IRIS originally seen graft
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: as more control that I would be able to choose,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: and with the random grafting, they've taken some of that
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: fun away. So I'll have to see more cards before.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: The early grafting we saw, which we have seen like
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: none of is grafting, and the text or the abilities
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: or something from the grafted.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: Cards carries over.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: That's what you're using carries over.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: We're not seeing that at all.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: No no info, right man.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: I think more implementcer and memoist, and in some regards,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: I think they're probably smart to avoid that because that
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: adds a very large, very messy bunch of rules to
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: have to deal with, how does this interact with this
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: when this is on this card. There's just there are
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: too many things and to think about how all cards
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: rub together. When you can stack abilities is.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: The active player gets to choose.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Is not great from a YO admin side of explaining
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: how things work.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well with what we were seeing thus far, I mean,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: does a dethrone PV? I guess is the is the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: big question that everyone wants to know.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: I don't even see this touching PV. Decent number of
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: amber pips, and we arguably didn't say a bunch of
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: these cards are like zero. So like, the cards aren't bad,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: but they don't seem great and we're not seeing any
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: consolidated game plans yet. A bunch well, yeah, absolutely, but
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: a bunch of medium cards that do medium things on
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: their own equals not that you know, Like, it's just
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: it's not doing enough. I don't think yet there isn't
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: enough payoff for the amount of work you're doing, right.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like playing that.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's Sleepy Dragons, Like a lot of stuff
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't care about your other cards that much outside of
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: you're just trying to get the bigger board state than
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: your opponent and winning through delta.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: And in Sleepy Dragons.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: In Sleepy Dragons, yes, okay, well the delta SPEV doesn't
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: need board for delta, so therefore it's playing a totally
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: different game.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: I can't not agree because I do.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: And this set, from what we're seeing, looks like it
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: wants to be another board heavy set, which is this
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: you know, like, hey, do I get a crazy draw
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: and land five to the same house and you can't
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: stop it and I'm gonna win?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: It's possible The answer is possibly.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: We're also seeing a lot of cards being able to
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: interact with other cards due to house PEPs. Because house pips,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: I mean you had what one uncommon had too, there
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: was a common that had one. Yeah, so I, as
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I said, I had some thoughts on that. Thanks for
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: bringing that back. House pips.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: Are definitely a mechanic that makes deck stronger, but it
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: is another functionally very random mechanic, right because they land
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: on cards randomly, So like, do they actually make the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: decaton stronger or don't they? And I have found it
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: very frustrating opening Amber Skies because I feel like I've
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: never had house pips land in a arrangement that has
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: been great where I have seen plenty of other people
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: with their house enhanced you know, good shards and stuff,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, yeah, this makes a difference, this doesn't,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: and it is a way, but it's such a again,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: such a.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Random random way.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: It's a lot.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: We have so much random in this game that.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: I'm more I'm more excited for that. I mean, honestly,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: I opened a box of DM today in my rain
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: was from sixty nine to seventy seven and most of
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: them were literally seventy two to seventy four.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but house pits don't increase ass I know.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: But if you actually look at the individual decks as
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: a whole, too, nothing you jumped out. It's it was
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: a great stealed set just to play like internal, but
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's nothing that is competitively viable there.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: KeyForge a couple sets ago, you know. Like and for
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: the longest time, I really loved the amount of random
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: to the amount of strategy that was in KeyForge and PV.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Amber Sky is in a different way, and PV in
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: a huge way, has switched the game to where I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: feel like the random element is having too heavy of
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: an impact on the game for me to be happy
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: the random disc cards. Sometimes it helps you, sometimes it
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: hurts you. Aspect of the game. It's just they're the
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: oppression of how often they randomly discard, and PB makes
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: it that that often overcomes the randomness. But the ask
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: again later stuff, the flip the top card of the
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: deck and that you can or can't play kind of
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: stuff is just like it's all so random that it
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: I just you know, it's like there's too many coin
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: flips to deciding the outcomes.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: For me to.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: You know, feel like I am making a ton of
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: meaningful decisions. I mean, I'm playing a card that has
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: a very high effect, so yes, I want to play
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: it because that coin flip when it goes right is
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: so huge that it's worth the chance that it doesn't.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: I get that the card is strong, but just the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: fact that it is a coin flip. And then you've
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: seen games and finals and stuff lose. We watched, you know,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: we watched on fav Dexter win the finals essentially because
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: he grack and reformed the trink's creed off his opponus deck, right,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, I mean that happened, But was
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: that was that Dexter playing like ooh, I'm crafting to
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: make this happen. No, it's just like whooo, there's literally went,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: And that's that's how games are ending right now. They're like,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: all right, I'm I put down under ask again later
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: I've got my strategic faint and if it flipped right
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: and you don't get to play actions, I win the
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: game because I know you can't stop me, and if
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: you can, you win. And that's just where this game
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: went to. And now it's down two coin flips. Two
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: coin flips did ask and trigger? Okay, top card of
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: your deck? Was it the right one?
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: Like? So are you saying that even even with the
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: new changes on the new eratas, like that wasn't enough
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: to change that.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: Erratas did nothing to impact TV meaningfully.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, took gleaming.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: About All it did was take gleaming the cube out
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: as a very very strong prophecy all the time to
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: only a strong prophecy or a strong fate effect in
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: with very specific prophecies.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it impacted atrocity as well, But.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: There's Atrocity is another one of these totally random cards
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, hey, that's the house I was gonna call. Anyways,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: I fight Atrocity and nothing mattered, or oh my gosh,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: just through random luck. Although I've already played seven of
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: my logos cards, we just put three off in a row. Wow,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: you sure made good choices over there. Now, just random luck.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: That's how it went. This was dumb, like it's it
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: is a I find it to be more of a
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: frustrating experience than a whole look at how well I
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: played experience.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: So and and I deal world. Right, let's not think
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: about well, you're going to piss a bunch of people off. Yeah,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: in an ideal world. How do you fix the situation?
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: PV?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Just like where we're at in the game in general,
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: if I were like, Okay, I need to fix this,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: and I need to do something drastic to fix it,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's not drastic.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: I mean everything else is.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: The same, right, Like, you're not thinking about, well, this
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: is really going to drastically affect the player base or
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. If you were just like,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: I need to fix this, now, how would I fix this?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: This is a safety issue, sheep? How do you fix
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: this safety issue?
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: I like the.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: First thing you do is you take away the invisibility
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: of prophecies, like you let them know. So it's strategic
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: play back and forth. I put you in this trap?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: Can you work around it? Not this constant bluffing junk
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: that we have now.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it simply won't allow you to put sloppy pips
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: in there. You have to know.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not even saying you have to stop that.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: I just get to know, right, So there's half that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: thing is if you put you know, and I also
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: think asked again later, I still hate that card for
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 3: many reasons, mostly too much tax on the game. So
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: it's random aspect. I don't how you fix it. But
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  Speaker 3: outside of that one, just about every other prophecy that
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: you put it under, and I see you put a
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: discard pip under there, and I know you have good prophecies,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: I might choose not to trigger it just because I
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: know I'm locking that card up with a junk prophecy.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: So that way, I'm trying to set up to where
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: I trigger that in a time frame where you then
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: putting what I know you have for strong prophecies under
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  Speaker 3: there isn't as meaningful against me. It makes it so
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: it's more or thought provoking on both player sides. If,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion, if you have that knowledge where you're
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: it's clear what people are going on, like the decisions
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  Speaker 3: you are making, you're forcing your opponent to make real decisions,
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  Speaker 3: not oh is this real or is this not flip
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  Speaker 3: coin kind of stuff that we have going on now?
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  Speaker 1: Is is it too much to just be like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: PV is done, We're going to retire the set. We're
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: gonna ban it from competitive play.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you do that, you definitely have a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of people who just go, this is not a
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  Speaker 3: trustworthy game or game company to spend any money with.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: Is But is it, again, given all the other things
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: not thinking of that, is that a viable solution.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: If you want GR to be purely dominant again?
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't think that Amber Skies are draconian measures
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  Speaker 1: or even what we've seen from Fractured Reality has that ability.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Shattered Reality. Fractured Reality is a magic set
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: that will be coming out this year. Now I'm not
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: see I mean like amber Skuy's has enough disruption. Maybe
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: I don't see it in DM or what we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: here that has anything to deal with GR power outside
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: of if there is and it's random. So it doesn't
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: feel good if there's enough random Because my biggest thought
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: on that is I see people say just get rid
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: of it and be done, and at the same notion.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what's the risk reward there?
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Do I lose a bunch of people? Because I just
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, we I mean if you came out
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  Speaker 1: and made a whole hearted effort like we fucked up, right,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: Like do you think there's enough people who will be like, yeah,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: you did, but we forgive you and we can move
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: on or more just like deuces, I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's too small that any decisions you make
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: like that your loss versus your gain isn't meaningful enough
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: to do it right, Like gain ten percent, lose ten percent?
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: Who cares that?
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: That's nothing?
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: And you know it's it's hard to say how much
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: we've lost from TV. We know it's been higher, but
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: I seriously think even them coming back and saying Peb's
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: band like doesn't build confidence at what?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: At what point though, do we let it continue? Because
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: this is a set to now and we've been on
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: kind of an every other set rotation, right, so like
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: we've had like a really good set and then kind
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: of I mean I can't say that because we had
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: a really good set and well, and then we had
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: another really good set in Grim Reminders, which Grim Reminders
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: kind of replaced well. And then we had ember Sky's
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: which was a thing, and then we had quite as good,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: but it was it wasn't quite as good as grim reminders.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: Then we had PV, which is left everything in the dust,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: and then we had your Coronian measures.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of a stinker, but we keep saying
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: it leaves everything in the dust, and it's it is
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: very strong.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: It's winning everything. The only thing as far as.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: Portland dominating top eight, it is it's more than a
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: so having fifty it's like, no, it was two thirds
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: in one.
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  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: Having just done the cast for UH pre Paris Vaults,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: it was seven out of the eight. Yeah, I haven't
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: watched its seven out of the eight arc on UH
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: in the US been purely yeah, but there's been more well.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying it isn't strong, but I'm
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: saying it isn't.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: Say I think it's more of a community thing, not
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: bring dominant well, right, but it's not allowing anything. I mean,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: what one point did PV win Portland? I can't remember.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: I don't I think it did win Portland. Somebody can.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it is strong, but I think they're
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: they have enough thing to say, well, it doesn't just
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 3: just own everything. Do they have enough scapegoating available to them?
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: I just I think it has been quite dominant, right,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: and at what point do we go?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: Oh? I agree, it is totally dominant, and I think
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: it needs a nerve. I don't think the eliminating it
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: from an.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Entire set is the is the because I don't I
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: don't even know if having Well, okay, so it's played
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: face it up. But now I get to yah, pick
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: my poison is enough either?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: So no either.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: So port Portland's ARCon was ned Mike on PV. Now
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: VM twenty five did take runner up. There you had
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: gr amber Sky's PV GR.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: And Portland was kind of the weird one because even
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: I mean even people were saying, like Saint Louis was
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: nothing like Portland.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: Right, six players there, Yeah, we have forty in Saint
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: Louis's PVPV amber Sky's PVPV Coda GR talk, So you
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: had a little bit there. And then France we see
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: literally PV except for one DM, and that DM having
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: talked the boys, this is the top rated DM deck
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: in the world according to Oka, and that took top
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: eight and that was it everything else? There's nothing else
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: that touched it for our gun.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it needs addressing. I don't know how much
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: wueaking it needs to bring it in line with high
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: end power from other sets.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: I really don't know. I'm not playing PV too. I
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not playing enough key Forge to actually
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: answer that question right now.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: And Baltimore was pvpv g R PVPV amber Sky's g
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: R PV so yes, in the US, we've seen other
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: sets be able to go from talk to uh gr
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: tamber Sky's amber Skis for the most part has just
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: been Olympio, which has been top eight and everything.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, but it's one deck.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: Well but but but but that's it like but but
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: that That's what I'm saying is you have these freak decks.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: So you have Fraud there with Coda, you have Olympio
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: there with amber Skies. You have Donatis, which is well
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: known and represents gr there and is there now. Interestingly enough,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: the Shiftless Footman was also g R Occathy taking top
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: four and kind of did something that others had not
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: seen before. It is interesting to look at the decks.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: The DM deck from Paris was as I said the
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: top literally top right deck.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: I know we got we've gone well off target. We've
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: been on for multiple hours.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about that another time. Maybe that's a
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: topic for next week. I know me and me and
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: sheep are getting CP. So with that being said, we'll
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: see you all next week.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: May the Forge be with you.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: That's sad down, no rom and break somebody. It's a grouse.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 5: My son came back in the cart and a cry
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: back you read becoming no one fart.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: It's a fun, but it wasn't so