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Steph Claire Smith's Husband's Shock Vasectomy · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show. Steph Clare
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Speaker 1: Smith announces her husband's vasectomy. Brit Hockley confirms she's moving
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Speaker 1: to Italy. Liv Kelly is back with her ex following
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Speaker 1: Rhys Hawkins' fling. Sarah's Day slams Japanese dining experience and
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Speaker 1: Vedan defends her annual birthday extravaganza. But first, Sammy Robinson
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Speaker 1: has unveiled a new collaboration with a cocktail brand called Quips.
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Speaker 1: The video, which saw Sammy miming to Celine Dion's All
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Speaker 1: Coming Back to Me, helped launch a new limited edition flavor.
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Speaker 1: This clip went absolutely viral, Amy, but it looked really familiar. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so Quips has been really clever. They've actually played off
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Speaker 1: a viral moment that Sammy had in 2021 on TikTok
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Speaker 1: where she mimed to this very song. And her video
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Speaker 1: got over 4 million views. And considering this was essentially
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Speaker 1: a dupe of that video, it's had its own success.
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Speaker 1: It's had over half a million views. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: can see why this went off on social media. The
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Speaker 1: production level was a lot higher than the original video
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Speaker 1: that she shared on TikTok. And she looked absolutely stunning
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Speaker 1: in it. The funny thing is, though, a lot of
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Speaker 1: social media experts say in order for a piece of
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Speaker 1: content to go viral on TikTok or Instagram, that you
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Speaker 1: have to shoot it in a vertical video. It should
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Speaker 1: be shot on your phone and not on a professional camera.
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Speaker 1: This piece of content was beautifully shot. It has defied
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Speaker 1: all of the social media experts. I wonder if we're
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Speaker 1: going to see it popping up on our TV screens,
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Speaker 1: particularly because of the production level and the fact that
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Speaker 1: it was actually shot as a TVC.
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Speaker 2: We might.
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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about this brand is that Sammy revealed
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Speaker 1: on TikTok that she's such a big fan that she
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Speaker 1: actually wanted to own the company. Let's have a listen
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Speaker 1: to what she said. I wanted to acquire their business.
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Speaker 1: They said... I wonder if she got inspiration to ask
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Speaker 1: that question off the back of Sarah's Day being a
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Speaker 1: shareholder and hirer. You've also got Indy Clinton who now
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Speaker 1: owns shares in Booth Hair. I can see why she
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Speaker 1: would want a piece of the pie considering she has
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Speaker 1: had so much success with her own business, One Mile
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Speaker 1: as well. She is someone you want as the face
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Speaker 1: of your brand. Well, she might even be taking inspiration
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Speaker 1: from influencer Alex Earle. Because she has invested in the
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Speaker 1: company Poppy, which was then acquired for some huge amount
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Speaker 1: of money. Surely Sammy is at least a small investor
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Speaker 1: in this business. Yeah, surely they gave her a couple
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Speaker 1: of shares. I mean, I think that this is going
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Speaker 1: to be common practice we see moving forward with big
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Speaker 1: influencers and getting them across the line to work with brands.
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Speaker 1: The funny thing is that this drink is a cocktail
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Speaker 1: in a pouch. And so Sammy was sharing all these
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Speaker 1: videos of her and her friends drinking it. And it
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Speaker 1: looked like they were sucking down one of those yogurts
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Speaker 1: in a pouch. And I just thought, Sammy's so classy
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Speaker 1: and she goes to all of these cool events. And
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine people drinking cocktails like that. I can
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Speaker 1: imagine more people taking this cocktail onto a bus or
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Speaker 1: something and trying to do free drinks. Yeah, well, let's
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Speaker 1: be honest. Her target audience are probably Gen Zers. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, while Sammy might not be slurping back the
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Speaker 1: cocktails from a pouch, her followers probably are. The thing
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Speaker 1: is she made it look cool. So I was even
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Speaker 1: sold on it. I don't even really like cocktails, but
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Speaker 1: I was like, I could drink that. That looks delicious.
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Speaker 1: The branding looked good.
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Speaker 3: Let's do a birthday haul of everything I bought on
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Speaker 3: the annual Fadan birthday extravaganza.
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Speaker 1: Popular TikToker Fadan has been forced to defend her annual
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Speaker 1: birthday haul. Kate, can you tell us more? So for
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Speaker 1: those not familiar with Fadan, she is a 47-year-old divorce
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Speaker 1: lawyer with over 1.3 million followers on TikTok. And she
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Speaker 1: is best known for sharing the platters that she eats
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Speaker 1: on a Saturday. Now, for the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: Fadan has taken her followers along for the ride of
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Speaker 1: what she calls the annual Fadan birthday extravaganza. Now, the
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Speaker 1: date consists of Fadan booking herself a hotel, taking herself
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Speaker 1: out for lunch, and then having this massive shopping spree. Wait,
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Speaker 1: is this all by herself? Yeah, so she is married
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Speaker 1: and she has twins, but this is a date just
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Speaker 1: for her. So she stays in the hotel by herself.
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Speaker 1: Like it is her just running amok enjoying it and
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Speaker 1: she films it for all of her followers to enjoy. See,
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Speaker 1: if I had heard this story before having a child,
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Speaker 1: I would have been like, what the hell? Like, why
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Speaker 1: would you want to do that? And now this actually
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Speaker 1: sounds like a great idea. Well, I mean, I would
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Speaker 1: like to go with you though, considering that we share
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Speaker 1: a birthday. Oh, well, yeah, but like going childless and husbandless,
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Speaker 1: that sounds good. And this isn't, Amy, your typical spending spree.
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Speaker 1: It is a designer shopping spree. So this year, Fadan
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Speaker 1: reportedly spent almost $ 20, 000 on herself. Now, this was actually
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Speaker 1: only a guesstimate from a follower. Other years, she has
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Speaker 1: done this full cost breakdown. However, this year, she didn't
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Speaker 1: mention any of the prices. And she threw her followers
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Speaker 1: off because it took her a week to actually upload
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Speaker 1: the haul after she filmed herself at the shops. And
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Speaker 1: this led to speculation that she had returned the items
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Speaker 1: she filmed herself purchasing. Another person then accused her of
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Speaker 1: not staying overnight in the hotel that she booked. Well,
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Speaker 1: so people are like at first, oh my God, this
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Speaker 1: rich bitch. And then they're like, wait a sec, you
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Speaker 1: faked this. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what happened. Do you
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Speaker 1: think there's any truth to it?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: So Fadan has publicly addressed the accusations on her TikTok
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Speaker 1: and she came with receipts. So she ended up showing
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Speaker 1: a booking confirmation for the hotel she stayed at, but
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Speaker 1: the follower was actually correct. So Fadan explained that she
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Speaker 1: didn't end up staying the night at the hotel because
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Speaker 1: she needed to be in court the following day. And
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Speaker 1: she also said she just wanted to get home and
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Speaker 1: get things organized for her twins because it was a
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Speaker 1: Sunday night and, you know, she likes to be organized
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Speaker 1: for Monday morning. Wait, but what time? I mean, normally
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Speaker 1: you check into a hotel, what, you can check in
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Speaker 1: about 2pm. So she was there for what, a few hours? Well,
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Speaker 1: she kept going on how tired she was. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can kind of get that, you know, when you've like,
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Speaker 1: had a big day at the shops. And then all
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Speaker 1: you kind of want to do is maybe just go
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Speaker 1: home and veg out. Like she's probably thinking of the
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Speaker 1: traffic's going to be horrendous the next day. Let's just
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Speaker 1: call it a day. Rich people problems just flat out
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Speaker 1: from shopping, doing a $ 20, 000 shopping spree. To be fair,
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Speaker 1: she went to a lot of stores. She would have
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Speaker 1: done a lot of walking around. And then also just
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Speaker 1: having to converse with the people in the designer stores.
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Speaker 1: Like Not that I've actually ever bought anything from there,
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Speaker 1: but I can imagine it would be quite tiring having
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Speaker 1: to sort of keep up this front. Yeah, well, that
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Speaker 1: was part of the reason why she put this haul
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Speaker 1: up so late because she was just so tired. Kate,
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Speaker 1: can you share with us what she actually bought? All right.
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Speaker 1: So she bought herself Fendi shoes and a Fendi bag,
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Speaker 1: YSL sunglasses, Christian Dior shoes, a Valentino necklace, bag, sunglasses
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Speaker 1: and shoes, a Burberry bag and hat, And a Louis
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Speaker 1: Vuitton reversible bag. I'm kind of surprised that this all
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Speaker 1: just cost $ 20, 000. That sounds like it would be a
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Speaker 1: lot more. To be honest, I actually didn't really like
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Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff. So I wonder if it was,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're big brands, but kind of the cheaper stuff. Maybe.
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Speaker 1: I heard Stephen Bartlett from Diary of a CEO. He
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Speaker 1: was talking about how when he first made a lot
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Speaker 1: of money, he wanted to wear all this branded stuff.
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Speaker 1: But now he realizes being a rich person that it's
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Speaker 1: really tacky. like having the big designer brands just splashed
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Speaker 1: all over you. Yeah. I don't want to throw shade
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Speaker 1: at Fadan because I mean, you do you on your
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Speaker 1: birthday and buy whatever you want. But the video is
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Speaker 1: documenting her actually selecting the items. It kind of just
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Speaker 1: seemed like there wasn't much thought put into it. And
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Speaker 1: it was kind of like, oh, well, this shop is fancy.
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Speaker 1: So I have to kind of buy a few things.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty funny because someone ended up asking her what
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Speaker 1: her husband bought her. And she said that she'll have
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Speaker 1: to do a separate video on it. But it's like,
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Speaker 1: how much stuff can you get? Like, What's your husband
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Speaker 1: meant to buy you if you're already doing your own
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Speaker 1: spending spree? You've bought sunglasses, a bag, a hat, like
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Speaker 1: what else is left really? There's no perfume. Maybe he
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Speaker 1: got a perfume.
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Speaker 2: People were asking questions and I think it's because we're
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Speaker 2: actually knowing.
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Speaker 1: About how he got fired. Britt Hockley has confirmed she's
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Speaker 1: moving to Italy to be with her husband, Ben. As
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Speaker 1: we discussed on Tuesday's show, the Life Uncut host hinted
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Speaker 1: a move was imminent, in a Spotify wrap thank you
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Speaker 1: video sent to Life Uncut's top fans. So Britt announced
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Speaker 1: what we'd all been thinking in the most recent episode
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Speaker 1: of Life Uncut, and she opened up about how hard
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Speaker 1: the last six months has been for her and Ben
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Speaker 1: after they got married in Bali. She said they wanted
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Speaker 1: to be together more than ever, especially after tying the knot,
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Speaker 1: but it's actually been the longest that they've ever been apart.
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Speaker 1: I really don't know how they've done long distance for
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Speaker 1: six months following the wedding. That would have been super
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Speaker 1: tough considering you would have had this massive buildup and
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Speaker 1: it would have felt so special. And then suddenly you
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Speaker 1: were just back to doing long distance again. It would
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Speaker 1: have been really weird. I mean, Britt was saying that
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Speaker 1: she's looking forward to all of the mundane things with Ben.
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Speaker 1: She said, I just want to watch TV with him.
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Speaker 1: I want to go on a walk. And she said,
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Speaker 1: that sounds really boring, but they're things that they haven't
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Speaker 1: actually been able to do together since they've been married
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Speaker 1: or even since they've been in a relationship.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Particularly because when they are together, it seems like they're
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Speaker 1: trying to make the most of it. So they're on
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Speaker 1: this really beautiful holiday together. They're not doing normal things.
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Speaker 1: During this episode, Laura and Britt also address rumors that
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Speaker 1: they were fired from their radio show, The 3PM Pickup,
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Speaker 1: after joking about it on their previous episode. Let's have
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Speaker 1: a listen to what they said. We aren't doing The Pickup.
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Speaker 2: I know we made jokes about it, but we aren't
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Speaker 2: doing the radio show next year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did say we got fired a lot, which
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Speaker 1: we kind of did.
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Speaker 3: We sort of just, we were like, we got fired
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Speaker 3: and they were like, see ya.
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Speaker 1: We didn't really give any explanation, but yeah. So Laura
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Speaker 1: went on to explain that in order to keep their
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Speaker 1: job at the 3pm pickup, Brit would have had to
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Speaker 1: have stayed in Australia and Laura wouldn't have been able
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Speaker 1: to take maternity leave until mid next year. Laura reiterated
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Speaker 1: that their decision to stop doing the 3pm pickup wasn't
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Speaker 1: just due to Brit's situation, but because Laura wanted to
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Speaker 1: be more flexible with her girls. Let's have a listen
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Speaker 1: to what she said.
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Speaker 2: The thing we don't have control over is the radio
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Speaker 2: side of things. And the radio side of things is
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Speaker 2: the most restrictive. I know I kept saying like, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to have more maternity leave this year. The one
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Speaker 2: thing I can take more maternity leave from is from radio.
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Speaker 1: And now that's a possibility.
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Speaker 2: So I am able to kind of like scale down
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Speaker 2: and work until at least mid-year next year. yeah so
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Speaker 2: it's worked for both of us i don't want you
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Speaker 2: to think that it's just been this decision that had
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Speaker 2: to be made because you want to go overseas brit
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Speaker 2: yeah yeah it worked really well for both of us
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Speaker 2: and where we're at in life.
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Speaker 1: This makes a lot of sense because at the moment
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Speaker 1: laura is really burning the candle from both ends she's
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Speaker 1: got her jewelry brand tony may they're doing the podcast
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Speaker 1: the radio show i mean she's just had a baby
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Speaker 1: her plate is very full Yeah, and with podcasting, even
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Speaker 1: though most podcasts release on a set day, there's a
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Speaker 1: bit of flexibility around it. Like if you can't get
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Speaker 1: it done at a certain time, you can maybe push
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Speaker 1: the recording out to later in the day. But with
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Speaker 1: the radio, it was like 3 p.m. on the dot
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Speaker 1: five days a week. Like there's no flexibility with that.
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Speaker 1: So it makes a lot of sense. That being said,
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Speaker 1: Britt dropped some interesting info that she said she never
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Speaker 1: had any intention of sharing on the podcast, but because
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Speaker 1: we're getting to the end of the year, she didn't
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Speaker 1: have many other interesting stories. And I'm so pleased she
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Speaker 1: shared this because I actually laughed out loud. So she
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Speaker 1: said that she was recently doing some influencer work with Qantas.
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Speaker 1: And instead of receiving a cash payment, she got frequent
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Speaker 1: flyer points instead. I wonder if Britt wouldn't have accepted
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Speaker 1: this type of contra if she wasn't in a long
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Speaker 1: distance relationship. It seems like they're like, oh, do you
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Speaker 1: know who we might get across the line without paying?
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Speaker 1: Britt Hockley, just send her some points. Yeah, especially if
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Speaker 1: it means you can bump your flight up to business class.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she said she was going to be flying...
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Speaker 1: back to Australia a lot from Italy. And that's pretty
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Speaker 1: funny because the team from Qantas asked for Brit's frequent
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Speaker 1: flyer number. And she said that she keeps this in
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Speaker 1: the note section of her phone. Now the next day,
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Speaker 1: the team from Qantas rung and asked if she was
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Speaker 1: sure she had the right number. So she went back,
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Speaker 1: cross-referenced her notes and was like, yeah, yeah, that's my number. Again,
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Speaker 1: the next day she received a call from the people
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Speaker 1: at Qantas and they said, look, We just want you
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Speaker 1: to double check because it's actually not coming up with
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Speaker 1: your name. It's coming up with a different name. Is
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Speaker 1: this your frequent flyer number? So she cross-referenced it and said, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it is. But what name is it coming up with?
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Speaker 1: It was Jordan Thompson, her ex-tennis player boyfriend's frequent flyer number.
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Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 1: So did she get the points back? Like, can you
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Speaker 1: transfer them back over? Well, that was the first question
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Speaker 1: that Keisha and Laura asked. And she's like, no, you can't.
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Speaker 1: So for four years, Brit has been racking up frequent
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Speaker 1: flyer points flying back and forth to see her now husband, Ben,
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Speaker 1: and they've all been going to Jordan. What do you
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Speaker 1: do in that instance? Do you say, oh, well, you
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Speaker 1: owe me a couple of flights now. It's sort of
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Speaker 1: embarrassing though, because it was Britt's mistake. So she said
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Speaker 1: that when she started dating Jordan, she didn't have a
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Speaker 1: frequent flyer number. So he was booking a lot of
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Speaker 1: her flights and the points were going to her. And
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Speaker 1: so she mistakenly wrote down his number as her own.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if he noticed ages ago that he was
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Speaker 1: getting all her points and just didn't say anything. I
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Speaker 1: don't think he's aware of it, but he will be
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Speaker 1: aware of it now after this segment. Let's have a
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Speaker 1: listen to Brit's reaction to finding out.
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Speaker 3: I'm very glad.
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Speaker 1: I feel sick saying I nearly died. And I just thought,
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Speaker 1: oh my God. I wrote back to him straight away.
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Speaker 1: I said, this is a sick joke. They were like,
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Speaker 1: this is not a joke. And I said, do not
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Speaker 1: send him any more points. Spare a thought for Ben,
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Speaker 1: her now husband. I mean, they're talking about her ex-boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: She said that she was most scared to tell Ben
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Speaker 1: and she was going to keep it a secret, but
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Speaker 1: she said she's terrible at secret keeping. So I ended
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Speaker 1: up telling him and he just laughed and was like, well,
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Speaker 1: accidents happen. And she's like, well, aren't you angry? And
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Speaker 1: he's like, well, it's not ideal that all the points
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Speaker 1: have been going to him. Ben had bumped her up
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Speaker 1: to business class a few times as well. So all
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Speaker 1: of those points got to Jordan. I'd be absolutely spewing
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Speaker 1: because I'm the type of person that loves any sort
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Speaker 1: of voucher or loyalty card. Like If I don't bring
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Speaker 1: my sombreros load to a car with me, I am
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Speaker 1: absolutely cut. Could you imagine your ex getting your free burritos?
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Speaker 1: That would set you off.
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Speaker 3: Oh, fuck.
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Speaker 1: I'd hate that. Let's get into our Friday influencer dump.
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Speaker 1: And to kick things off, Liv Kelly has confirmed a
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Speaker 1: breakup and relationship revival all in one Instagram dump. So
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Speaker 1: last week, we discussed the mounting speculation that the fitness
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Speaker 1: influencer was back with her ex, Jamara Ugelhagen. The AFL
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Speaker 1: footballer had been dropping hints of a reunion on his
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Speaker 1: Instagram account, and this caused a lot of confusion as
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Speaker 1: Liv had hard-launched a long-distance relationship with Tammy Hembrough's ex-fiancé
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Speaker 1: and baby daddy, Rhys Hawkins, in August. It just goes
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Speaker 1: to show a lot can change in a few months, Amy,
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Speaker 1: particularly when your ex moves to your hometown. Because Jamara
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Speaker 1: used to play for the Western Bulldogs in Melbourne, but
14:18
Speaker 1: he recently accepted a trade to the Suns, who are
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Speaker 1: based on the Gold Coast, which is where Liv just
14:23
Speaker 1: so happens to live. And it seems like the chemistry
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Speaker 1: was too much to deny in close proximity. So Jamara
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Speaker 1: made an Instagram official posting a selfie with Liv in
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Speaker 1: their bathers at a hotel pool. He shared the photo
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Speaker 1: on his Instagram story and tagged Liv in it. Now,
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Speaker 1: Liv repaid the favor and she featured Jamara in her
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Speaker 1: photo dump and she captioned the post, a lot to
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Speaker 1: be grateful for. She also included a quote within the
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Speaker 1: photo dump that said, never regret the love you give.
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Speaker 1: It will return to you in another time, in another person.
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Speaker 1: in another circumstance, but it always comes back to you.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how Rhys Hawkins feels about this. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing Liv dumped his ass after he started popping
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Speaker 1: up in all of those Tammy Hebro TikToks.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed like Tammy was definitely baiting him,
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Speaker 1: but he also was a willing participant in them. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it would have pissed me off. I can see why
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Speaker 1: Liv was like, what the fuck? I wonder though, if
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Speaker 1: Liv was trying to make Jamara jealous because he kind
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Speaker 1: of seems like the jealous type because he ended up
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Speaker 1: commenting under Liv's most recent Instagram dump about a particular
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Speaker 1: video that was shared within it. So in a video,
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Speaker 1: she's doing like hip thrusts at the gym and he goes,
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Speaker 1: let's relax on the hip thrusts, laugh out loud. So
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Speaker 1: I don't think he was that pleased that her followers
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Speaker 1: were also seeing it. I don't really like that. No,
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little bit of a red flag.
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Speaker 1: I would also love to know how these two got
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Speaker 1: back together considering Liv has thrown a lot of shade
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Speaker 1: at Jamara on social media. So just to refresh listeners' memories,
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Speaker 1: they broke up in mid-2024 after dating for around two years.
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Speaker 1: And in July this year, Liv shared a video which
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Speaker 1: appeared to be aimed at him. So over the top
16:02
Speaker 1: of the video she filmed of herself, she wrote the caption,'
16:05
Speaker 1: When you kept silent to protect them, but find out
16:08
Speaker 1: what they were actually doing when you weren't there. Their
16:11
Speaker 1: projections are their actions.' Underneath this video, Liv also replied
16:15
Speaker 1: in the comments, we love a narcissist and intuition was
16:18
Speaker 1: right all along. It's pretty awkward. This is why you
16:21
Speaker 1: don't put this sort of shit on social media, if
16:23
Speaker 1: you're going to take them back. Yeah, well, it gets
16:25
Speaker 1: worse because a month later, after hard launching her relationship
16:28
Speaker 1: with Reese Hawkins, she shared this collection of very cute
16:32
Speaker 1: clips of the couple and captioned the TikTok, thank God
16:34
Speaker 1: when my family and friends ask how I'm being treated.
16:37
Speaker 1: I don't have to lie anymore. That's doubly awkward considering
16:41
Speaker 1: Jamara is now going to have to come back into
16:43
Speaker 1: her life, talk to her family and friends. She's basically said,
16:45
Speaker 1: my family hate you.
16:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
16:47
Speaker 1: I mean, my guess is that Jamara has really worked
16:49
Speaker 1: on himself over the last year. He had the year
16:51
Speaker 1: off footy to address mental health issues after he admitted
16:55
Speaker 1: he had reached rock bottom. So I'm guessing that Liv
16:58
Speaker 1: has taken him back because he's changed. Steph Claire Smith
17:02
Speaker 1: has revealed her husband Josh has undergone a vasectomy. Speaking
17:06
Speaker 1: on the KickPod alongside her co-host Laura Henshaw, Steph said
17:10
Speaker 1: they made the decision after discussing what contraception they would
17:13
Speaker 1: like to use. Was it just me or do you
17:15
Speaker 1: think that this conversation was too fresh for Steph to have?
17:18
Speaker 1: Because she did break down in tears and she was like, oh,
17:22
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to think that I regret this
17:24
Speaker 1: decision or I was pushed into it. But I have
17:27
Speaker 1: to admit, that was my thought the whole time listening
17:30
Speaker 1: to it because I It sounded like she was the
17:33
Speaker 1: one that wanted to potentially go for a third baby
17:36
Speaker 1: and Josh was the one that was certain he didn't
17:39
Speaker 1: want another one.
17:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
17:40
Speaker 1: It kind of sounded like he had persuaded her. Well,
17:43
Speaker 1: the conversation started when Steph said that she didn't want
17:45
Speaker 1: to go and have another IUD. And then she said, well,
17:49
Speaker 1: Josh and I don't like to use condoms. So I mean,
17:51
Speaker 1: to me, that was kind of like Josh doesn't like
17:53
Speaker 1: using condoms rather than say both of us. That's what
17:56
Speaker 1: I took from that conversation too. And then this led
17:59
Speaker 1: to Josh and Steph having a conversation about, well, do
18:02
Speaker 1: we actually want any more children? And Steph said that
18:05
Speaker 1: she was really shocked to hear that Josh was happy
18:07
Speaker 1: with two because he's come from a really large family.
18:10
Speaker 1: So she just expected, well, we're going to have more
18:12
Speaker 1: than two. Let's have a listen to what she said.
18:15
Speaker 3: I think the other thing is like, because I've spoken
18:17
Speaker 3: to some girlfriends about this and they're like, oh, but
18:19
Speaker 3: you know, it's reversible. And like all the things say,
18:23
Speaker 3: you know, don't go and make this decision if you're
18:25
Speaker 3: planning to reverse it, right? If you've already got the
18:28
Speaker 3: plan to reverse it. But I think what we also
18:31
Speaker 3: came to and came comfortable with making the decision is like,
18:35
Speaker 3: if say three is down the track, like I completely...
18:39
Speaker 3: flip my mind and have this huge desire to try
18:42
Speaker 3: again and we try the whole reversal thing and it
18:45
Speaker 3: fails because there's a good chance that it does. It
18:47
Speaker 3: doesn't always succeed in that. I'm comfortable with that. We
18:51
Speaker 3: got to this place where I was like, I don't
18:53
Speaker 3: think I will want that. I don't think after going
18:56
Speaker 3: through it and really working through it, I don't think
18:57
Speaker 3: I'm going to change my mind.
18:59
Speaker 1: I found it interesting when Steph said, well, we're not
19:01
Speaker 1: going to go into the personal reasons why we decided
19:04
Speaker 1: that we didn't want to have a third child. I
19:06
Speaker 1: was thinking, well, isn't this the whole episode? And then
19:08
Speaker 1: she was listing reasons that people often would have. And
19:11
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, financial, but oh, we don't have that.
19:13
Speaker 1: And we, you know, we have the means to do it.
19:16
Speaker 1: I just found it odd because it's kind of like, well,
19:18
Speaker 1: it's okay if you don't have a third. Yeah. Like
19:20
Speaker 1: that's completely fine.
19:21
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:22
Speaker 1: I feel like after having one, a lot of the
19:25
Speaker 1: time people go, oh, do you want a second one?
19:26
Speaker 1: I feel like there's almost more pressure when you have
19:28
Speaker 1: one Even compared to when you have none. I feel
19:31
Speaker 1: like I've never had so many people ask me. I've
19:33
Speaker 1: seen the TikToks when people are like, oh, first baby announcement.
19:37
Speaker 1: Oh my God, so exciting. Second baby announcement. Oh my God,
19:39
Speaker 1: it's so great that the other baby's going to have
19:41
Speaker 1: a friend. Third announcement. Are you mad? Yeah. Like remember
19:44
Speaker 1: when Laura Byrne announced her third baby? And I remember
19:47
Speaker 1: it's like, what? I do think it was quite brave though.
19:50
Speaker 1: of Steph to share this conversation because I feel like
19:52
Speaker 1: a lot of couples do have it they're like oh
19:54
Speaker 1: are we gonna have another one or is the husband
19:56
Speaker 1: gonna get snip is that what's gonna happen the the
19:59
Speaker 1: snip conversation is a funny one because I have I
20:03
Speaker 1: friends who it's a little bit of an in joke
20:06
Speaker 1: in our friendship group that the husband just needs to
20:08
Speaker 1: go get a snip because they've had baby number three,
20:11
Speaker 1: but he just doesn't want to do it. And it's like, oh,
20:12
Speaker 1: come on, mate. Like your wife has literally gone through
20:15
Speaker 1: three pregnancies. It's the least you can do. Exactly. I mean,
20:18
Speaker 1: and then also. Anytime a man goes and does that,
20:21
Speaker 1: they seem to have bed rest for like a week.
20:23
Speaker 1: Whereas if you've given birth, you have to be up
20:25
Speaker 1: all hours. Yeah, exactly. They need to get up and
20:27
Speaker 1: get on with it. Like we have to. I was
20:29
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned when Steph kept saying that the
20:32
Speaker 1: vasectomy was reversible because that's not always the case. Like, yes,
20:36
Speaker 1: in some instances it can be reversed, but there are
20:38
Speaker 1: also instances where it can't be. And I just think
20:41
Speaker 1: if you're unsure, then maybe one of you should go
20:44
Speaker 1: on another form of contraception rather relying on the vasectomy
20:48
Speaker 1: being the contraception. Sarah's day splashed the cash for her husband,
20:52
Speaker 1: Kurt Till's birthday. Not only did they dine on the
20:55
Speaker 1: most expensive sushi rolls Sydney has to offer, but Sarah
20:59
Speaker 1: also surprised Kurt with his dream watch. Kate, can you
21:02
Speaker 1: tell us more? So the couple enjoyed a 12 course
21:05
Speaker 1: Japanese omakase at a bar in Circular Quay. Now Sarah
21:10
Speaker 1: explained that omakase means dishes selected by the chef. So
21:13
Speaker 1: you could tell at that point it was very expensive.
21:16
Speaker 1: And for someone who touts themselves as a foodie, she
21:19
Speaker 1: didn't really seem ultra impressed. So she wasn't a fan
21:22
Speaker 1: of the restaurant's signature sushi, which she shared was the
21:25
Speaker 1: most expensive sushi roll you could get in Sydney. She
21:29
Speaker 1: also complained about the diner she had to share a
21:31
Speaker 1: table with. So for this type of dining experience, you
21:33
Speaker 1: had to sit with other couples who you don't know
21:36
Speaker 1: and according to Sarah the two older businessmen next to
21:40
Speaker 1: them had main character energy and dominated the conversation when
21:43
Speaker 1: she described them like that I was like I wonder
21:45
Speaker 1: if they thought that she had main character energy they're
21:48
Speaker 1: probably like why are these people filming themselves I found
21:51
Speaker 1: it ironic that complaint coming from an influencer I'm like
21:54
Speaker 1: if anyone's got main character energy it's an influencer who's
21:57
Speaker 1: filming themselves eating 12 courses I'm just still getting used
22:00
Speaker 1: to seeing Kurt with no hair and it seems like
22:02
Speaker 1: a lot of Sarah's followers are also. There were so
22:05
Speaker 1: many comments about Kurt's shaved head. Yeah, well, someone wrote
22:08
Speaker 1: in capitals under the video, why is he bald? To
22:11
Speaker 1: which Sarah replied in capitals, because he shaved his head.
22:14
Speaker 1: I got the vibe that Kurt didn't really like the
22:16
Speaker 1: feast either because the first course was an oyster, which
22:19
Speaker 1: he doesn't like. I mean, I just feel like the
22:21
Speaker 1: stuff was too fancy. You know when you're like, oh,
22:23
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to this really nice restaurant and
22:25
Speaker 1: it's going to cost an absolute bomb. And then all
22:28
Speaker 1: the food's a bit weird. You've got to go get
22:29
Speaker 1: Maccas on the way home after. Yeah. I mean, I
22:32
Speaker 1: would love to know if behind the scenes Sarah's day
22:35
Speaker 1: actually does that because I swear she has Maccas. Oh,
22:37
Speaker 1: she would now. I don't think in her heyday she
22:39
Speaker 1: would have, but definitely now. Now, after the dinner, Sarah
22:43
Speaker 1: surprised Kurt again, this time by taking him to Cartier
22:47
Speaker 1: and buying him his dream watch. Now, the watch in
22:50
Speaker 1: question is called the Santos and retails for... $ 13, 000. This
22:56
Speaker 1: is nothing compared to the boat she got him for
22:58
Speaker 1: Christmas though. Yeah, but I mean, people were like, oh,
23:00
Speaker 1: was this like a milestone birthday? And she's like, nah,
23:03
Speaker 1: I'm just a dream wife, I guess. People were absolutely shocked.
23:07
Speaker 1: I mean, Sarah was quite sassy in the comments because
23:10
Speaker 1: someone wrote under the video, imagine receiving a $ 13, 000 watch
23:13
Speaker 1: for your birthday. And Sarah responded, imagine with the drooling emoji,
23:17
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty over the moon to be honest. I
23:18
Speaker 1: was like, Why are you being rude to your followers? Yeah,
23:21
Speaker 1: that's probably not the best way to play it. That's
23:23
Speaker 1: when you're meant to use the whole influencer card of
23:26
Speaker 1: we're so grateful. Without you guys, we wouldn't be able
23:29
Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah, it's just a copy and paste
23:31
Speaker 1: job of how grateful you are. I mean, it didn't
23:34
Speaker 1: seem very grateful. It kind of was like, yeah, I've
23:36
Speaker 1: got a lot of cash. What's the issue? I mean,
23:39
Speaker 1: obviously when you're going to post a video like that and,
23:41
Speaker 1: you know, like the video Fadan posted of a birthday extravaganza,
23:45
Speaker 1: You're going to have the comments of people saying it's
23:47
Speaker 1: tone deaf and I can't believe you can afford that much.
23:50
Speaker 1: You don't just then be bratty back to them because,
23:52
Speaker 1: you know, that's what you've got to expect. I wonder
23:54
Speaker 1: if they discuss how much they're going to spend each
23:56
Speaker 1: year because if you're spending $ 13, 000 one year, do you
23:59
Speaker 1: then have to back it up the next year? Or,
24:01
Speaker 1: you know, when she got Kurt a boat, what did
24:03
Speaker 1: she get him the next year? Like a packet of
24:05
Speaker 1: jocks and socks? Like how do you work out? Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 1: but also if you're Kurt, how do you repay the favor?
24:10
Speaker 1: Because it's quite clear that Sarah's day is the breadwinner
24:14
Speaker 1: of the family. And, you know, she likes to splash
24:16
Speaker 1: her cash and spoil her family members. A couple of
24:19
Speaker 1: years ago, she bought her dad an Aston Martin. You've
24:22
Speaker 1: touched on the boat that she bought Kurt for Christmas.
24:25
Speaker 1: I mean, most people aren't in a position to repay
24:28
Speaker 1: the favor. So do you have to go down the
24:30
Speaker 1: really thoughtful path and go, oh, I'm going to get
24:33
Speaker 1: you this thing that's, you know, like my kids engraved
24:37
Speaker 1: names on. You know what I mean? Like something very personal.
24:40
Speaker 1: Well Sarah always gives across this vibe that she's disappointed
24:43
Speaker 1: by her presence at Christmas and her birthday. Do you
24:45
Speaker 1: get that vibe too? Like maybe I've watched too much
24:47
Speaker 1: of her content. I've got to say I thoroughly enjoyed
24:49
Speaker 1: Sarah's most recent vlog. It was like she was back
24:52
Speaker 1: to her old vlogging style. She shared so much about
24:55
Speaker 1: what was happening in their life and I just found
24:57
Speaker 1: myself like actually really enjoying it. Well it's clear she's
25:01
Speaker 1: had a tough trot the last year. You know she
25:03
Speaker 1: had her third baby who had reflux. She documented how
25:06
Speaker 1: difficult it was and it seems like she's sort of
25:08
Speaker 1: on the other side of that and enjoying family life
25:10
Speaker 1: a lot more now and that's reflected in her vlog content.
25:14
Speaker 1: I do love her Christmas Day vlog.
25:16
Speaker 3: Yes.
25:16
Speaker 1: I hang out for that every year and I love
25:18
Speaker 1: the fact that she films her and her kids opening
25:21
Speaker 1: her Christmas presents and the genuine responses because as you say,
25:24
Speaker 1: It kind of gives me the vibe of when you
25:26
Speaker 1: look back at our old family videos and you can
25:28
Speaker 1: kind of tell like, oh, mum didn't really like that or,
25:31
Speaker 1: you know, that person didn't really like that. I actually
25:32
Speaker 1: want to do that this year where I vlog my
25:34
Speaker 1: own Christmas day and obviously not put it online but
25:37
Speaker 1: just have it as a memento. I am mortified. So
25:40
Speaker 1: last Christmas I set up my phone to film like
25:44
Speaker 1: Jack opening his Christmas presents and, you know, I was like, oh, whatever,
25:47
Speaker 1: I'll be in my PJs. Unfortunately though, I had tanned
25:51
Speaker 1: the night before. And I– it is honestly the most
25:55
Speaker 1: embarrassing vision I've actually watched back because I hadn't washed
25:57
Speaker 1: the tan off. And I kind of look– I look
26:01
Speaker 1: a bit green. I think the tan– was a bit old.
26:03
Speaker 1: So I kind of looked like the Grinch and the
26:05
Speaker 1: tan is just so severe. It's like so greeny brown
26:08
Speaker 1: on my neck. And then my face is just like
26:09
Speaker 1: completely stark white. And I'm wearing a dressing gown and
26:12
Speaker 1: I'm like, I could not look more hideous. So this Christmas,
26:15
Speaker 1: I either need to do my tan in advance or
26:18
Speaker 1: have a shower before we film the present. Didn't that
26:20
Speaker 1: vision end up getting played on your in-laws photo frame?
26:23
Speaker 1: Like our parents and also your husband's parents, they both
26:27
Speaker 1: got given these photo frames that you can put videos
26:30
Speaker 1: and photos on. And I think Didn't Rhys automatically sync
26:33
Speaker 1: that video into their frame? Oh, yeah, he sent them
26:36
Speaker 1: a video. And, like, I nearly died because it was
26:39
Speaker 1: quite a while after Christmas Day that I saw it
26:42
Speaker 1: on this interactive frame. And I was in the background
26:45
Speaker 1: of it and I was like, holy fuck, like, what
26:47
Speaker 1: the hell? And I actually ended up removing it from
26:51
Speaker 1: the frame. I hope it deleted. But I was like, Rhys,
26:55
Speaker 1: could you be more careful with the things that you sent?
26:56
Speaker 1: I was in the background of that. I feel like
26:58
Speaker 1: I need to set my camera up. and to automatically
27:01
Speaker 1: take photos on Christmas Day because I already know the
27:03
Speaker 1: photos of me and Harry are going to be horrendous
27:05
Speaker 1: if they're in Dale's hands. So I did a December
27:09
Speaker 1: 1st box for Jack and I was sitting there like
27:12
Speaker 1: reading him a book from the box. And mind you,
27:15
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the morning. It was like I'd had
27:17
Speaker 1: a day of it. Like I'd had a day of,
27:20
Speaker 1: you know, looking after a toddler running around. I was
27:22
Speaker 1: not looking my best. And like, you know, Rhys did
27:24
Speaker 1: the thing that you ask all husbands to do, which
27:26
Speaker 1: was to take some sort of like nonchalant photos of
27:28
Speaker 1: you unaware of of you interacting with your child, like
27:31
Speaker 1: big tick there. The photos were that dreadful though. I
27:34
Speaker 1: was like, oh my God, is that what I look like?
27:35
Speaker 1: And they were kind of like- You didn't, that's not
27:36
Speaker 1: what you look like. Was it his colors of his
27:39
Speaker 1: phone or something? The frame wasn't shut up. Samsung. Yeah,
27:42
Speaker 1: it looked shit. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck?
27:44
Speaker 1: You actually looked dead. Why is it zoomed up as well? Yes,
27:46
Speaker 1: I did. And I was like, I mean, I know
27:48
Speaker 1: that my makeup was rubbed off and whatnot, but I
27:50
Speaker 1: was like, surely- this has got something to do with
27:53
Speaker 1: how you took the photo. And I actually gave him
27:54
Speaker 1: that feedback. And then he said, well, this is why
27:56
Speaker 1: husbands don't take photos. And I'm like, it's so unfair
27:58
Speaker 1: because the photos and videos I get with him and
28:00
Speaker 1: Jack are so nice. Well, I realized the other day
28:03
Speaker 1: that the reason Dale's photos are so shit is he
28:05
Speaker 1: has an iPhone, but he holds the button on the side,
28:08
Speaker 1: you know, like the volume button. Oh, he takes it
28:10
Speaker 1: with the button. And I said, is his iPhone like
28:12
Speaker 1: an iPhone 6 or something as well? And then he
28:15
Speaker 1: takes it like, he doesn't actually hold it and look
28:17
Speaker 1: at the person. He like takes it. sort of on
28:19
Speaker 1: the side. There was no way that any of the
28:21
Speaker 1: photos he took were going to be any good. Well,
28:23
Speaker 1: we need to be good mums with each other and
28:24
Speaker 1: just start taking that vision of ourselves when we're together.
28:28
Speaker 1: Let's get into our Friday debrief. And I cannot believe
28:32
Speaker 1: it is already the 12th of December. And normally we
28:36
Speaker 1: would have already started rolling out our Christmas content last year.
28:39
Speaker 1: We did Christmas interviews. I think we've been doing them for,
28:41
Speaker 1: I don't know, since 2020 now. But the vibe I
28:44
Speaker 1: was getting was people actually prefer our regular episodes. They
28:46
Speaker 1: want a touch of Christmas. But they still want the
28:49
Speaker 1: influencer gossip. So we're going to continue rolling out fresh
28:53
Speaker 1: content over the Christmas period. We're not going to go
28:54
Speaker 1: on a massive break like all of the other podcasts.
28:56
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than your favorite podcast goes on a break.
28:59
Speaker 1: And you're like, what am I meant to listen to?
29:00
Speaker 1: I heard something. I think it was Abby Chatfield. I
29:02
Speaker 1: was listening to her podcast and she was saying that
29:04
Speaker 1: normally she has a six-week break over Christmas from her podcast,
29:08
Speaker 1: but she's not this year. And I was like, oh,
29:10
Speaker 1: my God, that's right. Everyone goes away for such a
29:12
Speaker 1: long time. You have to listen to like reruns or–
29:16
Speaker 1: And I'm very envious of the podcasts that also are
29:19
Speaker 1: so big that they have a middle of the year
29:22
Speaker 1: break too. So we're going to be releasing bite-sized episodes
29:25
Speaker 1: that will keep you up to date with what's going
29:27
Speaker 1: on in the influencer world across that break. There'll be
29:30
Speaker 1: a bit of Christmas fun within those episodes as well.
29:32
Speaker 1: We're going to be doing our annual influencer 2026 predictions.
29:36
Speaker 1: We're also going to be looking back at the top
29:39
Speaker 1: 10 influencers. stories of 2025 i'm actually sad though kate
29:43
Speaker 1: that we're not doing the influencer celebrity interviews this year
29:47
Speaker 1: about you know what they're doing for christmas Because we
29:50
Speaker 1: could have had a really interesting interview with Bonnie Blue.
29:53
Speaker 1: I can't even keep a straight face. So basically, Bonnie
29:55
Speaker 1: Blue's PR people reached out and they said, oh, we
29:58
Speaker 1: think it'd be a really great fit for this podcast.
30:00
Speaker 1: They're obviously trying to get a lot of publicity about
30:03
Speaker 1: her because she was at school. She's now in Bali,
30:05
Speaker 1: apparently facing 15 years in a hellhole jail, according to
30:08
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail. So imagine having Bonnie Blue on talking
30:12
Speaker 1: about her Christmas. Yeah, they've actually sent up a few follow-ups.
30:14
Speaker 1: They're quite desperate to get her on Outspoken, but we've
30:17
Speaker 1: said no. I don't know if it's the vibe of the,
30:21
Speaker 1: you know, the podcast or something that we really want
30:24
Speaker 1: to be promoting. But I did laugh though when that
30:27
Speaker 1: interview request came through. We get so many now from
30:29
Speaker 1: like these random PR companies. And I think, do you
30:31
Speaker 1: even listen to the podcast? Like clearly this is like
30:33
Speaker 1: a send it around CC, blind CC, this interview request. Well,
30:37
Speaker 1: we got one from a PR company that clearly got confused.
30:40
Speaker 1: They're like, we'd love to have so-and-so on Outspoken Beauty.
30:43
Speaker 1: I'm like, wrong podcast. I was going to write back
30:45
Speaker 1: and say, this is just Outspoken. We're not a beauty podcast.
30:49
Speaker 3: No.
30:49
Speaker 1: Well, there is one called Outspoken Beauty, so it does exist,
30:52
Speaker 1: but it's not us. That is where we're going to
30:53
Speaker 1: leave things today. We'll be back in your ears on Tuesday.
30:57
Speaker 1: But if you do want to hear more content from
30:58
Speaker 1: us in the meantime, we drop a subscriber-only episode every Thursday.
31:02
Speaker 1: We had a very juicy topic about Ashley Bynes' new
31:06
Speaker 1: personal development vault. It only had 75 people sign up.
31:10
Speaker 1: out of the million followers that she has. So it
31:12
Speaker 1: wasn't really a great conversion right there. The best thing
31:14
Speaker 1: about Outspoken Plus is that once you sign up, you
31:17
Speaker 1: can listen to all of the old episodes. So if
31:19
Speaker 1: you're looking for a podcast to listen to over Christmas,
31:21
Speaker 1: Outspoken Plus, that could be a good little Christmas gift.
31:25
Speaker 1: A great Christmas present to tell your partner to get
31:27
Speaker 1: you because it just keeps giving the whole year. The
31:28
Speaker 1: gift that keeps giving. Well, I think that's all we've
31:31
Speaker 1: got time for. I hope you guys have a lovely weekend.
31:33
Speaker 1: And this episode was recorded on the traditional land of
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Speaker 1: the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect
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Speaker 1: to elders past and present.