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NFC South Division Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites of the podcast part of the
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Speaker 1: Volume Podcast Network.
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Speaker 2: I am Chad Noman of the Action Network.
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Speaker 1: Our division by division betting breakdowns have begun. We covered
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Speaker 1: the AFC South on Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: Today we move.
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Speaker 1: On to the equally important, equally respected, equally beloved also
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Speaker 1: southeastern region of football in the NFL, the NFC South,
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Speaker 1: home of teams and logos nobody outside of the region
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Speaker 1: cares about, but we're going to talk about them because
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Speaker 1: we do think there's betting opportunities to help me do
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Speaker 1: all of that. Let me bring in my COEs, my
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Speaker 1: companion Michael Padre my BFF Professional Better Simon Hunter.
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Speaker 3: So I'm hello, Chide, what's going on?
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Speaker 2: Listen?
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Speaker 1: You know nothing gets me more sighted and the chance
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Speaker 1: to talk about professional football in the Southeastern United States.
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Speaker 4: On April twenty fourth, nineteen seventy four, Florida's Tampa Bay
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Speaker 4: area was awarded the NFL's twenty seven franchise. The official
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Speaker 4: team name was announced as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who've
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Speaker 4: set a standard that any expansion team would be proud
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Speaker 4: to attain.
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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers do have a quarterback that we
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Speaker 1: love that we both think is top ten in Baker Mayfield.
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Speaker 1: The Bucks Division odds plus one oh two, Conference odds
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Speaker 1: thirteen to one, Super Bowl twenty eight to one, win.
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Speaker 2: Total at nine and a half.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, the biggest factor here is that Liam Cohne, the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, has left to take over as the Jacks coach.
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Speaker 1: This will be Baker's third offensive coordinator in three years.
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Speaker 1: We do have Baker's a top ten QB as I said,
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Speaker 1: but do we worry Simon? A lot of his success
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Speaker 1: last year was predicated on him throwing more screen passes
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Speaker 1: than ever to help him manage pressure, which has always
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Speaker 1: been an issue for Baker. That man is EPA expected
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Speaker 1: points added on screens was significantly higher, the second highest
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Speaker 1: the past four seasons, behind just Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 2: Also helped him decrease the sacrate. So the Bucks have
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Speaker 2: won this division for a couple of years running. Now
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Speaker 2: are we selling the Bucks?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard not to want to sell him, right.
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Speaker 3: It's the same thing where it was last year, where
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Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you know, that was a great year
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Speaker 3: from Baker, but we expected regression and then he came
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Speaker 3: out and had the best year of his career and
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Speaker 3: We're gonna find out pretty quick, right if it was
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Speaker 3: him or Liam, Like the guy left has now gone
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Speaker 3: to a different team, and we expect things in Jackson
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Speaker 3: well because of that, Right, we really respected his offensive
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Speaker 3: mind and the team did as well, Like they offered
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Speaker 3: him an insane amount of Money's probably gonna be the
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Speaker 3: highest paid offensive coordinator all football, and you know that's
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Speaker 3: that shows the kind of respect he has in this
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Speaker 3: league where he's he's using leverage against his former employee
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Speaker 3: while he's already on that jet to his new team
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Speaker 3: meeting back with the Jaguars. The whole thing was really scandless,
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Speaker 3: and you know the Baker got dragged into it, right.
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Speaker 3: They were trying to get Baker to be mad about it,
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Speaker 3: and Baker's like, I love that guy. Like that was
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Speaker 3: when the best Shaer's ever had. I loved working with
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Speaker 3: him and you saw them in the field. And the
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Speaker 3: question for me is, like this win does it catch
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Speaker 3: up too?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 3: Because that was an insane season by Baker, and that
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Speaker 3: was without Godwin and Mike Evans for large portions of
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Speaker 3: that season. And they've gone out and they've drafted a
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Speaker 3: new rookie receiver that's got a ton of talent, so
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Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, we're already forward thinking because Mike Evans
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Speaker 3: here is aging out, God wins aging out. We're already
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Speaker 3: thinking forward. So now they are easily three to four
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Speaker 3: deep at receiver. That's a big deal for this team
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Speaker 3: that plans off throwing the ball a lot. And then
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Speaker 3: we saw Bucky Irving come out of nowhere last year
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Speaker 3: and really take off of there. So there isn't really
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Speaker 3: questions offensively. Their real questions to me, is going to
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Speaker 3: be the defense, right because I don't think Baker's have
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Speaker 3: the type of aerarhead last year like naturally, I think
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Speaker 3: there's gonna be some regression there. It's is this defense
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Speaker 3: good enough again and to keep doing what they've been doing,
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Speaker 3: which is one of the best dominant defense aginst the
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Speaker 3: run and we know Vi Devey, but there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of other pieces of that defense that's really come to check.
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Speaker 5: But their secondary has.
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Speaker 3: Been horrible, Like they are a bad secondary, and lucky
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Speaker 3: for them, this division there just has not been a challenger.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: It feels like, you know, I mean, I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: it's Matt Ryan was the greatest quarterback ever, but he
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Speaker 3: dominated this division for a long time, and then Tom
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Speaker 3: Brady came in, and after he left, Baker's kind of
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Speaker 3: taking it over. And it's been kind of funny where
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Speaker 3: I mean, me and you finally came round. We both
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Speaker 3: put them our top ten, but I mean we really
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Speaker 3: didn't take Baker serious.
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Speaker 5: It took a while for us to get there.
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Speaker 3: So I get that, I get the number, but like,
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Speaker 3: do you want to bet plus one oh two on
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Speaker 3: this team?
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Speaker 5: I really don't.
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Speaker 3: And I'm having a tough time ticking their win toal
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Speaker 3: just because again it's another team that it's not a
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Speaker 3: brutal start to the year, but it's not an easy
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Speaker 3: one either, Like they have a first place schedule, they
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Speaker 3: have some tough games. But this is, to me, the
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Speaker 3: best team. They are the best team in their division.
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Speaker 3: I'm just not crazy about the odds. I wish they
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Speaker 3: were a little better, just because you know, we're about
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Speaker 3: to dive into it. Like people are really loving this
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Speaker 3: Atlanta team, so I thought these odds would be closer.
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Speaker 3: But you know, that's that's the that's the respect Baker's
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Speaker 3: getting this team, so it's earned. But to me, our
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Speaker 3: jobs value base, I'm just not gonna be touched on
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Speaker 3: number nine and a half.
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Speaker 5: I have them right at ten wins.
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Speaker 3: Another team that's like, I'm gonna am I gonna force
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Speaker 3: the over here, because I do think they'll get to
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Speaker 3: ten and seven, nine and eight. They just feel like
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Speaker 3: that's team. They have that much talent. It's just it's
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Speaker 3: just hard to get there where you like, we're about
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Speaker 3: to talk about the Elections Division. There's better value to me,
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Speaker 3: but I get the respect again A plus one oh two.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Mecca Abuka was the first round pick
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Speaker 1: the received Ohio State who they've added, and look, they've
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Speaker 1: got challenges all across the board. Like you said, that
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Speaker 1: secondary is pretty bad. I mean, the only thing they
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Speaker 1: have going for them is that there isn't a dominating
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Speaker 1: defense in this division. So anytime they're playing anyone in
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Speaker 1: the division, you have the potential because you have Baker,
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Speaker 1: because you have Mike Evans, because you have Bucky Irving,
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Speaker 1: you've got the potential to points on the board and
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Speaker 1: steel wins in the division.
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Speaker 2: As much as we sort.
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Speaker 1: Of don't like any of these teams, the games are
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Speaker 1: going to be lights out. Think about some of these
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Speaker 1: games in the NFC South last year, the Panthers made
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Speaker 1: so many games so exciting. The Saints earlier in the
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Speaker 1: year games exciting, the Falcons made games exciting, The Bucks
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Speaker 1: made games exciting because they're not quite good enough to
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Speaker 1: put teams away. None of them are, and so nine
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Speaker 1: and a half wins to me, just feels like too many.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be sweating that, and there's no reason to
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Speaker 1: grasp it. It feels like it's overinflated because Baker had
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Speaker 1: the year that he had, because the team is clearly
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Speaker 1: the consensus favorite in this division. Zero value, your priced
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Speaker 1: out of the market. There's just no upside embedding this
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Speaker 1: team in any of these things.
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Speaker 2: Right now, you're smiling at.
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Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, I just and like you're breaking down here,
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Speaker 3: but it's just very telling. Where we just did the
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Speaker 3: AFC South, now we're doing the FC South. No team
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Speaker 3: in either divisions or ten wins and both, like both
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Speaker 3: these divisions are the lowest win totals of the season
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Speaker 3: because they're such bad teams. But like you talked about,
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Speaker 3: these are awful teams. When they play to their own division,
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Speaker 3: the games are always wonking and tight, and that's really
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Speaker 3: true NFC South. So I know it's very you look
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Speaker 3: at that nine and a half, You're like in their
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Speaker 3: own division, like they should steamroll the Saints, right we
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Speaker 3: at best case scenario, maybe they split with the Panthers
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Speaker 3: and you know Atlanta. So it's like you look at
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Speaker 3: them and you're just saying, well, those are easy wins.
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Speaker 3: How do they not get to the other four and
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Speaker 3: a half five wins?
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Speaker 5: I get why it's.
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Speaker 3: So so enticing, but it's just it's hard year to
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Speaker 3: year and to know that these type of wins are
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Speaker 3: gonna be in the division, right, it's just so fluky
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Speaker 3: up and down. So it's it's a good number once again,
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Speaker 3: another really sharp number by the book. Like I think
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Speaker 3: they really hung a good number here because I think
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Speaker 3: a general public are gonna going and bet this one,
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Speaker 3: and professionals will take the under.
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Speaker 1: Oh I one hundred percent believe the public is going
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Speaker 1: to bet this over. Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna play
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Speaker 1: the over. They're gonna hit the plus one h two because,
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Speaker 1: by the way, they're gonna see a plus number and
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Speaker 1: think what I can get the bucks for the plus
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Speaker 1: number to run their division when they've been dominating that
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Speaker 1: division for so many years and nobody else really improved.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the public is gonna bet the Bucks in
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Speaker 1: both scenarios, but we're not, No Simon, We're not gonna
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Speaker 1: do it.
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Speaker 2: Will we bet the Atlanta Falcons.
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Speaker 4: The Atlanta Falcons were typified by the players who consistently
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Speaker 4: made the big play.
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Speaker 3: Which.
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Speaker 1: Falcons plus two thirty to win the division, thirty five
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Speaker 1: to one to win the conference, seventy to one to
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, the win total at seven and
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Speaker 1: a half.
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Speaker 5: I mean, are you gonna you can go first? I
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Speaker 5: know you have.
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Speaker 3: You have some love here, a little bit of love
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Speaker 3: for Michael Pennox. I want to hear you break it down.
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 1: I do, and it's it's forcing me to want to
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Speaker 1: take the over on this team. My feeling on Penics
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Speaker 1: is basically I think we know what he is right
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Speaker 1: And look, I loved Penix. I've been following him long
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Speaker 1: before he was in the NFL, long before he was
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Speaker 1: at Washington. He was the quarterback at Indiana. He was
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Speaker 1: great in Indiana. You think back to the COVID years
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Speaker 1: when Indiana had a little bit of a run, it
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Speaker 1: was because of Michael Pennix before he was injured. That's
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Speaker 1: what got them into sort of contention in the Big
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Speaker 1: Ten for that one season. And he's not a guy
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Speaker 1: who's going to go off script. He's not a guy
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Speaker 1: who's going to make plays for you when things break down.
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Speaker 2: But he is a guy who can perform.
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Speaker 1: Very well, maybe even elite, when he's on schedule and
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Speaker 1: has good protection for a QB with a minimum of
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Speaker 1: one hundred dropbacks. Last year, only Lamar Jackson had a
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Speaker 1: better EPA Expected points added from a clean pocket than
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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. Fantastic, and the Falcons will know that, so
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Speaker 1: will level of their team Right now? Can the Falcons
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Speaker 1: game plan to that? We know they have Drake London,
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Speaker 1: we know they have Bijeon, we know they have Kyle Pitts.
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Speaker 1: We know they have talent that might be used differently
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Speaker 1: with someone like Michael Pennix than it would have been
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Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins or predecessors Desmond Ritter.
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Speaker 2: But how much of that can they really.
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Speaker 1: Mandate control when everybody in the league knows that, because
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Speaker 1: if the production does break down, he cannot create on
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Speaker 1: his own and the whole thing falls apart. And while
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Speaker 1: the Falcons have had elite run blocking for several years,
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Speaker 1: they're past blocking and just is mediocre to straight bad.
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Speaker 2: It's all on Penix and I'm gonna believe and.
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Speaker 3: We'll see, because they did lose arguably their best offensive
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Speaker 3: piece to the Bears.
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Speaker 5: They lost their center, so you know that's a big deal.
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Speaker 1: But the one thing I'll say about that he was
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Speaker 1: injured a lot last year, and so, like I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about this as I was trying to calculate the guy.
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Speaker 5: What's that they were bad last year?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: But what my point is, he was injured a lot
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Speaker 1: last year. So whatever Pennis was doing last year to
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Speaker 1: show progress and success in a clean pocket, he's doing
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Speaker 1: with probably the same people that he'll be doing it
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Speaker 1: with this year because the other guy with the backup
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Speaker 1: was playing so much.
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Speaker 5: And I was gonna say, it's just hard to take
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Speaker 5: a lot away from Penis. Where he came in.
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Speaker 3: I think he had what eight hundred yards, three touchdowns,
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Speaker 3: and three picks, Like it's really nothing. There was nothing
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Speaker 3: really there when you go back and watch a tape, Yes,
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Speaker 3: he did make nice stars, but like you said, if
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Speaker 3: you get him off.
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Speaker 5: His spot, he was bad.
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Speaker 3: He was really bad when you took him off a
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Speaker 3: spot and his feet, you know, it's it's it's a
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Speaker 3: knock on him, right. His footwork is not the best
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Speaker 3: when you get him off because he could throws off balance,
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Speaker 3: which you don't want him to do because he's not
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Speaker 3: the arm power like that. So you know, this is
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Speaker 3: a team that I don't know what they're gonna be
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Speaker 3: because their defense was so insanely lucky last season in
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Speaker 3: many ways where I always go back to the coaching,
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Speaker 3: Like coaching has a lot to do with luck in defenses, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean the Vikings are the great example ever of
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Speaker 3: that with Flores, like you can take a little bit
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Speaker 3: of talent because we always talk the difference between the
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Speaker 3: best linebacker middle linebacker and football and the fifth best
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Speaker 3: middle linebacker on football. Sure it's pretty big, but the
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Speaker 3: best fifth line backround football on the twenty fifth.
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Speaker 5: It's very small.
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Speaker 3: And these coaches, they are the ones that make such
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Speaker 3: a big difference on these middle middle level guys.
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Speaker 5: So with the.
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Speaker 3: Falcons, their defense to me is bad, and I do
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Speaker 3: have major questions about their offensive line. But like you said,
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Speaker 3: when we talk about these teams, well, I get why
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Speaker 3: you're taking this jump in on this Falcons team with
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Speaker 3: Penix the quarterback is the year two bump like the
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Speaker 3: guy who they don't have much tape on, but you
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Speaker 3: see the good and if he can just grow on
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Speaker 3: that and get better, like we just said, if he
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Speaker 3: can find better move in the pocket, he gets better
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Speaker 3: at throwing off balance. Like I heard, he's been doing
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Speaker 3: the same type of training that Mahomes has been doing,
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Speaker 3: which is like he throws off one leg and does
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Speaker 3: like all these training different exercise throwing off balance and
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Speaker 3: working on his lower body. That to me is gonna
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Speaker 3: be a big step for Penick. So for a team
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Speaker 3: that has a ton of upside with the unknown, I
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Speaker 3: get why you're doing it because, like Penix comes in,
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Speaker 3: if he is just able to be a competent quarterback
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Speaker 3: something the fout because I've not had since Matt Ryan,
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Speaker 3: he could change out all offense because they have all
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Speaker 3: the weapons like Drake London Stud like Robinson Stud and
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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts. We don't know, he's never had a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: So I'm with you. I like the pieces there.
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Speaker 5: I get why you're going with it.
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Speaker 3: But there's another team this division I love more. So
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Speaker 3: that's why I'm just not all in with you. I
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Speaker 3: get where you're coming from. I did bet their win total.
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Speaker 3: I have him at eight and a half. The win
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Speaker 3: total seven and a half, obviously a full game to
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Speaker 3: the over. I'll take that over on the win just
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Speaker 3: because of this division. Like the way this division shakes out,
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Speaker 3: it just feels like I'm I can't see what Chad
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Speaker 3: seeing here is like them in the Bucks, we could
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Speaker 3: both see them being nine and eight, ten and seven
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Speaker 3: fighting like they were last year and last year that
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Speaker 3: Atlanta did it without a quarterback. So yeah, major upgrade
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Speaker 3: to them. If Penis can take that next.
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Speaker 1: Step, dude, you have it at eight and a half.
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Speaker 1: The totals at seven and a half. Of the teams
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Speaker 1: we've talked about so far between the AFC South and
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Speaker 1: the Nancy South, that's the biggest discrepancy.
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Speaker 2: You haven't had.
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Speaker 3: A Tennessee was seven, So they were they were a
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Speaker 3: game and a half. But that's fair, you know, I
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Speaker 3: know it's the Penix thing. I've been watching tons of Penis.
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Speaker 3: The Tennessee was five and a half. I hadn't met
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Speaker 3: seven wins, okay, but yeah, like I just I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: I've been watching a ton of Penix day because to me,
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Speaker 3: I loved him in college so much like you know
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Speaker 3: a Duneesa is a great receiver.
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Speaker 5: He he obviously.
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Speaker 3: Helped the quarterback and what Penix did, but it was
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Speaker 3: also Penix, like he put up some of his passes
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Speaker 3: as touch passes are incredible. So I'm not disagreeing with
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Speaker 3: the talents there, and obviously my model believes in this team.
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Speaker 3: I'm just so hesitant o it because it's like I
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Speaker 3: watch them on field and I see so many bad habits,
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Speaker 3: and then when I dive into how lucky their defense
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Speaker 3: was and how it overperformed so much last year, it's
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Speaker 3: hard to get there.
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Speaker 5: It's like because last year, again they just had random wins.
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Speaker 3: They stole, like they beat the Eagles in Week two
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Speaker 3: on a two minute drive by Kirk Cousins.
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Speaker 5: You can't predict those things.
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Speaker 3: So it's like those ones are tough when you're diving
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Speaker 3: into their games last year and how they won some
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Speaker 3: and then you know how they fell off a cliff
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Speaker 3: once Kirk kind of couldn't get it right right once
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Speaker 3: defense is realized he can't move in the pocket, it
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Speaker 3: was over for Atlanta. So is that gonna be the
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Speaker 3: same problem here? Chat with Penix, Like that's the fear
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Speaker 3: is if they have another quarterback that can't move well
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Speaker 3: in the pocket. Every game, he's just gonna be facing
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Speaker 3: five rushers. It's just it's what it's gonna be.
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Speaker 1: So with an offensive line that is not great at
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Speaker 1: past blocking, So that's the fear. Totally get it, totally fair,
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Speaker 1: totally get it. You mentioned there's another team.
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Speaker 2: I feel a lot.
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Speaker 1: More strongly about bets related to our next two teams
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Speaker 1: then I do about the Falcons and the Bucks. So
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Speaker 1: let's dig in on the Carolina Panthers.
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Speaker 2: The loves of our lives.
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Speaker 1: Plus three ninety to win the division, fifty to one
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Speaker 1: to win the conference, one hundred and twenty to one
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Speaker 1: to win.
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Speaker 2: The Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: Win total six and a half. In the final nine
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Speaker 1: games of the year, the Carolina Panthers went seven and
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Speaker 1: two against the spread, including four outright wins. Reminder, we
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Speaker 1: were so bullish on the Panthers. We talked about the
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Speaker 1: Panthers so much in the preseason, and then they went
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Speaker 1: out and totally shit the bed and made us look
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Speaker 1: terrible for the first eight weeks of the season.
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Speaker 2: What happened?
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Speaker 1: How did they turn it around? Bryce Young had been injured,
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Speaker 1: comes back, really kind of has nothing to lose at
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Speaker 1: this point, because in his first twenty or so games
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Speaker 1: he's been one of the worst first round quarterbacks, top
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Speaker 1: overall quarterbacks who's ever been drafted. He went from being
18:15
Speaker 1: so bad amongst the worst in the NFL to middle
18:20
Speaker 1: of the pack that, like any movement in his improvement
18:24
Speaker 1: made him look like.
18:25
Speaker 2: A viable starter.
18:26
Speaker 1: But to me, the key, and we talked a lot
18:30
Speaker 1: about this last year. You could see it on the field,
18:33
Speaker 1: his decision making, Like he started scrambling to extend plays.
18:37
Speaker 1: He's already incredibly accurate. His scramble rate jumped from twenty
18:42
Speaker 1: five percent to forty percent forty seven percent. And this
18:45
Speaker 1: wasn't because his offensive line is terrible. It's actually top ten,
18:50
Speaker 1: top fifteen offensive line. It was him moving around in
18:53
Speaker 1: the pocket to make plays and then using his accuracy
18:57
Speaker 1: on the run. He'd keep his eyes downfield, he wasn't
19:01
Speaker 1: looking at rushers, and he was making plays that helped
19:05
Speaker 1: them stay in the game. Third down completions, fourth down completions.
19:08
Speaker 1: He just got better.
19:11
Speaker 2: Can we see that? Can we see that from Bryce
19:13
Speaker 2: Young this year?
19:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you just broke it down. It was incredible.
19:17
Speaker 3: He was playing himself out of the league. It was over, right,
19:21
Speaker 3: And what did Andy Dolton do to He cut his
19:25
Speaker 3: hand or was he in a car accident? Something happened
19:27
Speaker 3: with Andy Dalton?
19:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, like something fluky. It wasn't like.
19:31
Speaker 5: And that's why he got his job back.
19:32
Speaker 1: Right. It wasn't like Andy Dalton was ever going to
19:35
Speaker 1: links just relinquish this job.
19:37
Speaker 2: No, Bryce Young was done.
19:39
Speaker 5: It was over.
19:40
Speaker 3: And you know, we talk all the time how football
19:44
Speaker 3: it's it's so heavily mental. That's why all these guys
19:47
Speaker 3: got sports therapists, right, They're constantly working on their brain
19:51
Speaker 3: and their mind, and it's it's really become a forefront
19:54
Speaker 3: the last ten years of how mental, how important the
19:57
Speaker 3: mental aspect of the football game is.
19:59
Speaker 5: And you the best example is Bryce.
20:01
Speaker 3: Young, Like he was miserable, like apparently it was just
20:05
Speaker 3: dead inside.
20:05
Speaker 5: I mean you would be too.
20:06
Speaker 3: His first game, I believe he threw like two picks.
20:08
Speaker 3: It was a train wreck to start the season. And
20:10
Speaker 3: just kept getting worse and worse every week. And we
20:12
Speaker 3: got caught, like Chad is talking about, like this is
20:14
Speaker 3: a classic case of believing too much into a model
20:17
Speaker 3: and not what you're seeing in front of you. And
20:19
Speaker 3: I kept saying, but my models, telling me this is
20:22
Speaker 3: a bad number and this team is way better than
20:24
Speaker 3: their performing did not make sense. And then sure enough,
20:27
Speaker 3: once he came back, like you said, they went seven
20:29
Speaker 3: to two, that's when it made sense, where it's like, oh,
20:32
Speaker 3: this is what my model is seen. When he puts
20:34
Speaker 3: it together and plays within the offense, he's good. Like
20:37
Speaker 3: when he's accurate. They do have they did have pieces
20:39
Speaker 3: there around him. And now they've gone out and drafted
20:42
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, which to me was the biggest deal
20:43
Speaker 3: because you know, as much as we love Bryce Young,
20:46
Speaker 3: his number one receiver is out and feeling like feeling.
20:51
Speaker 5: He was supposed to be. These are his sunset years.
20:53
Speaker 5: He's down there getting ready for retirem.
20:55
Speaker 3: He's not supposed to be the number of receiver the Panthers,
20:57
Speaker 3: And he was his most trusted receiver. Bryce anytime on
21:01
Speaker 3: a big third down, that's who he trusted because he
21:03
Speaker 3: knew he would run the he would run the right route,
21:05
Speaker 3: and he would even if the window was crazy small,
21:08
Speaker 3: he would.
21:08
Speaker 5: Give him a window. He'd always have that window.
21:10
Speaker 3: The fact that they went out and got a receiver
21:12
Speaker 3: with a top ten pick, it's a huge deal and
21:15
Speaker 3: you know, the the offense. You know, to me, it's
21:20
Speaker 3: not my question when I'm betting this team. I have
21:22
Speaker 3: this team at eight wins, so six and a half.
21:25
Speaker 3: Chad knows. I liked that number a lot divisional odds.
21:29
Speaker 3: You know, wish it was plus four fifty like it
21:32
Speaker 3: was earlier, and it's down a plus four hundred and
21:33
Speaker 3: three to ninety at Some books still love it, still
21:38
Speaker 3: think it's good value, but it's tough that it's been
21:40
Speaker 3: bet down because the pros are the same view as us.
21:42
Speaker 3: It's like, if he did take that next step and
21:46
Speaker 3: they've spent money on on some of these peace offensive
21:49
Speaker 3: line of defense, this should be a good team. But
21:51
Speaker 3: that's that's what the unknown is here is this defense.
21:53
Speaker 3: Like they were so criminally bad last year, this defense
21:57
Speaker 3: that even the games they were in they got totally
22:00
Speaker 3: thrown out because it's like you're asking Bruce Shung, you
22:02
Speaker 3: have to put up thirty five, thirty thirty eight points
22:05
Speaker 3: in a game. It's just like they don't have the
22:06
Speaker 3: offensive weapons to do that. So that to me is
22:09
Speaker 3: our big fear here, Chazz. We're betting a team that
22:12
Speaker 3: they might have even worse defense than the Saints. Which
22:15
Speaker 3: we're gonna get into the Saints about being a train wreck,
22:16
Speaker 3: but this that's a true statement that Panthers might have
22:18
Speaker 3: the worst defense in this division. So that, to me
22:21
Speaker 3: is what I'm really looking forward to in camp, seeing
22:23
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna see from a defense. You know, the
22:26
Speaker 3: it's not so such a preseason games now, I've learned
22:28
Speaker 3: my lesson that it really is about the team practices
22:31
Speaker 3: when they when they practice with other teams. That film
22:34
Speaker 3: has been really valuable. They when they have practice against
22:36
Speaker 3: other teams and you see what type of defensive sets
22:39
Speaker 3: they're trying to run.
22:39
Speaker 5: So it's definitely a team Panthers.
22:42
Speaker 3: I'm gonna dive more into their defense during this preseason,
22:45
Speaker 3: but right now as we stand here, I'm just so
22:47
Speaker 3: infatuated with their offense. I just trusted so much that, yeah,
22:51
Speaker 3: I have to have to take the divisional odds.
22:53
Speaker 1: So look, the receiver they drafted in the first round
22:56
Speaker 1: was that kid McMillan from Arizona, And.
23:00
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people, I don't know enough
23:02
Speaker 2: about him.
23:03
Speaker 1: To weigh in and whether or not he's going to
23:05
Speaker 1: be impactful, added value whatever it's going to be. Certainly
23:09
Speaker 1: if Adam Thielen was his top target. Bryce Young's you
23:13
Speaker 1: need to find an improvement there.
23:15
Speaker 2: Agree with you.
23:17
Speaker 1: This defense was just shredded, right, and even when they
23:21
Speaker 1: started to get guys back from injury, they never got
23:24
Speaker 1: very good. And it's what made it. It was what
23:27
Speaker 1: made every Carolina Panthers bet so heart pounding. The fact
23:31
Speaker 1: that they did win for those last nine games that
23:33
Speaker 1: they also covered the spread in is encouraging, but a
23:38
Speaker 1: lot of that was on Bryce Young. They have the
23:40
Speaker 1: seventh easiest strength of schedule per Vegas win totals. I'm
23:46
Speaker 1: so glad to hear me hear you say that you
23:49
Speaker 1: like the Panthers as a division long shot or at
23:52
Speaker 1: least over that six and a half win total, because like,
23:56
Speaker 1: that's just blaring the wind total. To me, is the
24:00
Speaker 1: real play for this team, because that is a blaring
24:04
Speaker 1: discrepancy in the market. But then again, you know, we
24:09
Speaker 1: could be falling into a trap.
24:11
Speaker 5: We could.
24:12
Speaker 3: But the thing I love the most about their schedule
24:15
Speaker 3: is it is brutal how late they're buys their bye week.
24:17
Speaker 3: I believe it's not until week fourteen or fifteen, like
24:21
Speaker 3: something crazy late like that. When you look at their schedule,
24:23
Speaker 3: lay it ends is they end New Orleans, Tampa and
24:27
Speaker 3: then Tampa again when the last game of season. I
24:28
Speaker 3: think Seattle's thrown in the middle there somewhere, so they
24:30
Speaker 3: get to face Tampa twice in the final three weeks.
24:34
Speaker 5: That's a big deal when we're.
24:35
Speaker 3: Ben win totals, right, because Tampa if they do win
24:38
Speaker 3: this division somehow like they did last year, and they
24:40
Speaker 3: got a game out and they don't need it, that's
24:43
Speaker 3: a huge throwaway for us the end of the season.
24:45
Speaker 5: And even better.
24:46
Speaker 3: If we're in this spot for Carolina stealle this division.
24:49
Speaker 3: They're facing the divisional leader most likely too out of
24:52
Speaker 3: the last three weeks. That's how you steal the season, right,
24:55
Speaker 3: That's how you make it happen. So to me, when
24:58
Speaker 3: I have a young team like they are, inexperienced, I
25:00
Speaker 3: want that type of thing. I don't want them facing
25:02
Speaker 3: the Bucks early in the year. I want them faced
25:03
Speaker 3: the end of the year where you could coach these
25:05
Speaker 3: guys up and have them in them a rhythm. Where
25:08
Speaker 3: we saw it last year, This Panthers team got better
25:10
Speaker 3: as a season went along.
25:11
Speaker 5: That's so you know you have a good coaching staff.
25:13
Speaker 3: So that that was something that jumped out to me
25:16
Speaker 3: last year that I knew going to this year, I
25:18
Speaker 3: was gonna keep drinking the cool lady. Like the way
25:19
Speaker 3: they finished what'd you say, seven and two against the.
25:22
Speaker 5: Spread right away I wins? Yeah, like really impressive stuff.
25:27
Speaker 3: So you know, we we we might get a little
25:30
Speaker 3: lucky here with the way the schedule makers did it,
25:32
Speaker 3: where that that final three weeks facing the Bucks twice
25:35
Speaker 3: could be a game changer for this team.
25:37
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think they're opening game against the Jags,
25:40
Speaker 1: and so we're going to learn a lot even in
25:43
Speaker 1: that opening week. How close can we get to that
25:46
Speaker 1: six and a half win total. It's gonna be a
25:48
Speaker 1: tough play for us because we love betting on the
25:52
Speaker 1: Jags and we love betting on the Panthers. So what
25:56
Speaker 1: are we gonna do, Matt Mitchell when we post this
26:02
Speaker 1: Q the conspiracy music? Because I have one right here, Simon,
26:13
Speaker 1: you just said something really interesting to me. The end
26:16
Speaker 1: of the season, they get the Bucks two of the
26:19
Speaker 1: last three weeks. The NFL has made a really concerted
26:23
Speaker 1: effort the past several years to backload the division matchups,
26:28
Speaker 1: So there is something exciting that happens at the end
26:31
Speaker 1: of the season where division races could be in play.
26:36
Speaker 1: Right to me, this is the NFL saying we think
26:43
Speaker 1: the Panthers are really the team that could have the
26:48
Speaker 1: best shot at knocking off the Bucks.
26:52
Speaker 2: By the way they're scheduling. This script is written my friend.
27:02
Speaker 5: I wish it was so.
27:03
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Panthers are on the schedule
27:05
Speaker 3: makers radar yet, right, They probably do that the top fourteen,
27:09
Speaker 3: top sixteen teams, and then they they're probably throwing like
27:13
Speaker 3: two major markets like Chicago and some of their major market.
27:16
Speaker 5: That's who.
27:17
Speaker 3: That's who the schedules they dictate the the these NFC
27:20
Speaker 3: South foes, they just throw them in a blender.
27:23
Speaker 5: They make them their schedule match the real team.
27:25
Speaker 3: So I view this as luck like they got really
27:29
Speaker 3: lucky to meet chat where that's that's exact scenario they needed, right,
27:34
Speaker 3: facing them three twice in the last three weeks, that's
27:37
Speaker 3: a huge deal to me for this Panthers team, just
27:39
Speaker 3: because if they would face them, like we said, if
27:41
Speaker 3: they started the season opening at the Bucks, Okay, you
27:44
Speaker 3: already own one against the division, against the top dog
27:47
Speaker 3: in the division, that would be a guaranteed loss, right
27:49
Speaker 3: them going down face Baker in Tampa Week one. So
27:53
Speaker 3: to me, they caught a nice break then said they're
27:56
Speaker 3: going down a floor. They're going to Jacksonville. Like that's
27:58
Speaker 3: a much much nicer start to the season. They're heading
28:01
Speaker 3: down to Tampa. So yeah, like you said, there's a
28:03
Speaker 3: lot conspiracy.
28:04
Speaker 5: I agree with you a little bit.
28:05
Speaker 3: I think they did do the Panthers some favorites in
28:07
Speaker 3: some ways, But that to me is insane.
28:11
Speaker 1: The luck of the time, I will not stand for
28:15
Speaker 1: Carolina Panther an NFC South disrespect. Who talks that way
28:21
Speaker 1: about one of the eight divisions in the NFL. They
28:24
Speaker 1: all deserve our equal respect.
28:28
Speaker 2: They are all.
28:29
Speaker 1: Worthy of being challenging division races. At the end, at
28:33
Speaker 1: the end, they capture our attention. These are teams in
28:37
Speaker 1: the National Football League.
28:38
Speaker 2: They all matter.
28:40
Speaker 1: Simon who says stuff like that, this guy, Well, one
28:45
Speaker 1: of the teams that maybe shouldn't be in the NFL
28:47
Speaker 1: is the New Orlands Saints.
28:48
Speaker 4: What do you think about the Saints?
28:56
Speaker 1: They are fourteen to one to win the division, in
29:00
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one to win the conference,
29:03
Speaker 1: four hundred to one to win the Super Bowl, longest
29:07
Speaker 1: odds of any team in the NFL to win the
29:10
Speaker 1: Super Bowl longer than the Cleveland Browns, Jermaine, because the
29:16
Speaker 1: win total for the Saints is five and a half.
29:20
Speaker 2: And this is what's interesting to me. Last year the Pats.
29:26
Speaker 1: Were three hundred to one and had a season win
29:29
Speaker 1: total of four and a half. The Panthers were two
29:33
Speaker 1: fifty to one and had a season win total of
29:36
Speaker 1: five and a half. Even the Browns at four and
29:39
Speaker 1: a half wins are at three hundred to one. When
29:45
Speaker 1: you think about that, when you hear that as better,
29:48
Speaker 1: what is that signaling to you? Because it is signaling
29:53
Speaker 1: something to me.
29:55
Speaker 3: I mean, it's simple not that the sports book are
29:57
Speaker 3: begging anybody coming a dollar on this team if willing
30:02
Speaker 3: to in a positive way, so that that, to me,
30:04
Speaker 3: is the signal there. That's just all negative money right
30:07
Speaker 3: now in the Saint It's nothing positive to me.
30:10
Speaker 2: The signal is bet the under five and a half. Yeah, right,
30:16
Speaker 2: that's ultimately what it's saying.
30:17
Speaker 1: Like they're desperate for the money at four hundred to one,
30:22
Speaker 1: But why would they put their number at five and
30:25
Speaker 1: a half. That's what doesn't make sense to me. It
30:28
Speaker 1: feels like they've inflated this number and I can't I
30:30
Speaker 1: can't figure out why.
30:32
Speaker 3: Really weird, I agree with you, This to me feels
30:35
Speaker 3: like a number though. If this kid Shuck comes out
30:37
Speaker 3: and he's just dog shit in this preseason, this will
30:40
Speaker 3: go to four and a half, like they will have
30:42
Speaker 3: to move it if he's just that terrible.
30:45
Speaker 5: You know, this.
30:47
Speaker 3: Football is a weird sport, right where it's like this,
30:50
Speaker 3: this is the type of team. They have enough veterans
30:53
Speaker 3: across the board that if he comes in he's just
30:56
Speaker 3: comparable at the correct position, they could steal some games.
30:59
Speaker 3: Right with Kamar, especially in the backfield, there is a
31:01
Speaker 3: path there.
31:03
Speaker 5: But I've gone and watched this kids.
31:04
Speaker 3: Film and he is so raw and bad and injury prone,
31:10
Speaker 3: and then you look at the guys behind him. It
31:12
Speaker 3: feels like a full on reset without them saying it's
31:15
Speaker 3: a full on reset. And you don't get that much
31:17
Speaker 3: on football, right, but you have to when you're a
31:19
Speaker 3: team that spent your money in the worst way on
31:23
Speaker 3: bad players along contracts, And it's basically all these backloaded
31:28
Speaker 3: years from the Drew Brees era catching up to them, right.
31:30
Speaker 5: It's it's just.
31:31
Speaker 3: Been the really brutal in the books, the money they've
31:33
Speaker 3: they've allocated these different players.
31:35
Speaker 5: So yeah, this was a game. I mean, this was
31:38
Speaker 5: a line right away.
31:39
Speaker 3: When I saw it open up, I jumped on the
31:41
Speaker 3: under and I'm like you, I.
31:43
Speaker 5: Was just like, am I the fish here?
31:45
Speaker 3: Is?
31:46
Speaker 5: Is this too easy?
31:47
Speaker 3: Because it's I didn't get the five and a half
31:49
Speaker 3: hanging that number either.
31:51
Speaker 5: I just I didn't know what.
31:53
Speaker 3: The book's models giving them back to even think they
31:56
Speaker 3: could get the six wins this season, because that's hard,
31:59
Speaker 3: Like when you don't have anything at the quarterback position
32:01
Speaker 3: and anything behind it, that is really hard to steal games.
32:05
Speaker 3: Like if you if they had Joe Flacco there, I
32:07
Speaker 3: might have hesitation. Honestly, I know it sounds stupid, but
32:10
Speaker 3: if they had a comparable veteran quarterback, just because they
32:13
Speaker 3: have so many good veterans on the team, it would
32:15
Speaker 3: give me. Paul as cheb I think you, I and
32:18
Speaker 3: the public and most professional vetters are all the view
32:20
Speaker 3: of this is just a team much like the Giants
32:23
Speaker 3: that you know, they don't mind to tank the season
32:26
Speaker 3: because in their minds there's a great group of quarterbacks
32:29
Speaker 3: coming out next year and it's a good time to reset.
32:33
Speaker 3: If you're an organization like the Saints in a division
32:35
Speaker 3: that you.
32:36
Speaker 5: Know, all these teams say what you want.
32:39
Speaker 3: They have their quarterbacks for the most part, right the
32:41
Speaker 3: team Bryce Young, it's his team for now. You know,
32:45
Speaker 3: the Bucks obviously have their quarterback, and we think Michael
32:48
Speaker 3: Pennox will be the Atlantis quarterback. They they don't have
32:51
Speaker 3: any identity right now the Saints. So I think that's why.
32:54
Speaker 3: I mean, you're both so confident in this one. And
32:57
Speaker 3: there's always going to be the scenario of the vikings
32:59
Speaker 3: like last year, right, there's always that randomness that if
33:01
Speaker 3: a quarterback can come in and just shock a team
33:04
Speaker 3: and breathe life into it. Nothing I've seen from this
33:07
Speaker 3: kid Shuck has done that. Chet Like even the stuff
33:10
Speaker 3: I'm reading Abouttle, it's just growing pain after growing pain,
33:13
Speaker 3: after picked the linebacker, after picked in the cornerback, and practice.
33:17
Speaker 3: It's just a steep, steep learning curve for someone like him.
33:20
Speaker 3: Was a hell a lot of reps in college because
33:22
Speaker 3: of injuries and other factors too. You are now in
33:24
Speaker 3: the NFL at playing at the highest level, and you're
33:27
Speaker 3: supposed to be the leader of this team. I think
33:29
Speaker 3: it's just a lot to ask of a kid like this.
33:31
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we're in sink here. It's one
33:33
Speaker 3: of my favorite bets, the under Saints five and a half.
33:37
Speaker 1: It's Tyler Shock spelled s s h o u g
33:42
Speaker 1: h but pronounced shock as in oh fuck, this guy's
33:47
Speaker 1: our quarterback. Yeah, and I'll throw a little another little
33:52
Speaker 1: conspiracy at you.
33:54
Speaker 2: Ready. I love it, Okay, ruling Saints clearly.
34:00
Speaker 1: Not not being aggressive to get quarterbacks, to get quality competition,
34:08
Speaker 1: like you said, so many salary cap issues that here.
34:12
Speaker 5: We go the coward take.
34:15
Speaker 2: I don't know what's I don't know. I don't know
34:17
Speaker 2: what the coward take.
34:18
Speaker 5: Is about the Archie Manning.
34:20
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah,
34:23
Speaker 2: did he say that already?
34:24
Speaker 3: I'm almost positive I saw one of his clips on
34:26
Speaker 3: my YouTube pop up from the volume.
34:28
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought I was like, I thought
34:31
Speaker 1: it was so far ahead of it.
34:34
Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm with it.
34:35
Speaker 3: I'm with you guys though, Like it's I've the expectations
34:38
Speaker 3: Archie man Yeah, but he might not even come out
34:41
Speaker 3: this year, Like he's right, that's what someone just say.
34:45
Speaker 5: He might have come I don't I don't know if
34:46
Speaker 5: he'll come out this year. But if he lights it up,
34:49
Speaker 5: why would he not come out.
34:51
Speaker 2: Like he lights it up. Yeah, he's got and he's guaranteed,
34:55
Speaker 2: you know, as much as anything's a guarantee to be
34:58
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick and go to the scene
35:00
Speaker 2: and the Saints have the number one overall pick.
35:05
Speaker 3: I would love for his dad to be like, no,
35:07
Speaker 3: you're going back to college.
35:08
Speaker 5: You ain't going yeah, New Orleans.
35:10
Speaker 1: That's why we love sports, because there is symmetry and
35:14
Speaker 1: poetry and romance, and we can all get behind these
35:19
Speaker 1: stories because that is when we are at our happiest.
35:24
Speaker 1: Who doesn't want a great family story about Arch Manning
35:28
Speaker 1: going to the Saints, revitalizing the team, bringing back joy
35:34
Speaker 1: to his hometown city, doing what his grandfather couldn't do
35:39
Speaker 1: as the number one overall pick of the same exact team.
35:48
Speaker 2: That is poetry. That's fucking Dylan Thomas shit right there.
35:54
Speaker 3: Also, I love the thought of we were I think
35:58
Speaker 3: two weeks into the season last year, the Saints were
36:00
Speaker 3: two and oh, and there are people coming on different
36:04
Speaker 3: TV shows, different airwaves saying, bet the Saints to win
36:07
Speaker 3: the NFC, bet them to win the division. This is
36:10
Speaker 3: a different team. They have all the pieces, So I
36:13
Speaker 3: think of how far they've come from that two and
36:15
Speaker 3: oh start to where we're at right now, horebably the
36:18
Speaker 3: worst team in football. It just NFL comes at you
36:21
Speaker 3: so fast, that can change so much. It's just I
36:25
Speaker 3: feel for this franchise obviously. You know Drew Brees left,
36:29
Speaker 3: Schean Payton left and left you holding the bag, right
36:31
Speaker 3: with all these guys, you need to just blow it
36:34
Speaker 3: all up and reset. You have a lot of veterans
36:36
Speaker 3: on the team that you know, they're playing out their
36:38
Speaker 3: contracts at the end, it's all coming to an end.
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Speaker 3: This is going to be a two three four year rebuild. Like,
36:45
Speaker 3: they have so much work to do. So that's the
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Speaker 3: weird thing about them. That's why the books hung this
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Speaker 3: at five and a half, because they do have enough
36:52
Speaker 3: veteran talent that if this kid Shuck comes in, he's good.
36:55
Speaker 3: This could hit to me like me and chat just
36:57
Speaker 3: talking about I think the books are way off the
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Speaker 3: mark here. I just everything I've s from this kid.
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Speaker 3: He is not the answer to their problems right here.
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Speaker 3: He's just naturally You see it right away. With some
37:05
Speaker 3: of these guys coming in like they can read the
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Speaker 3: field or they just have the god given ability. He
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Speaker 3: has neither right now, so just it just feels like
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Speaker 3: dark days ahead. And I would tell you to grab
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Speaker 3: the five and a half now because I could see
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Speaker 3: this going to four and a half after a couple
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Speaker 3: of preseason games.
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Speaker 2: This has Chris Wanky vibes written all over it.
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Speaker 5: I agree.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember Chris Wanky? Were you old enough for
37:27
Speaker 2: Chris Wanky?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Was he Florida?
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Speaker 1: Chris Wanky was Florida State, had played baseball, got drafted
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Speaker 1: as a very old dude, went to the Panthers. They
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Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands and immediately with.
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Speaker 2: George Seffert, I think went one in fifteen.
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Speaker 1: That's brutal, And you know you feel bad for these guys,
37:49
Speaker 1: right he's twenty five. Everyone like any other time, like twenty.
37:52
Speaker 2: Five always too old.
37:53
Speaker 1: But they're playing that office maturity and it's a it's
37:57
Speaker 1: a hard spot to step into with an very good
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Speaker 1: team with a new coach who probably knows, Hey, we're
38:04
Speaker 1: looking to play for next season, so do the best
38:06
Speaker 1: you can this year.
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Speaker 2: We're going to give it to you. It could be
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Speaker 2: a very very tough road.
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Speaker 1: Favorite Bets, I feel like you and I are pretty aligned.
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Speaker 1: I made a list of my three favorite and I
38:21
Speaker 1: think they correspond directly with yours. I just don't know
38:24
Speaker 1: if they're in the same order.
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Speaker 2: So you go first.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite bets would be Panthers over six and
38:32
Speaker 3: a half, Saints under five and a half, and then
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Speaker 3: the Panthers Division plus four hundred. I just to me,
38:39
Speaker 3: that's the best value where you know, we'll talk right
38:41
Speaker 3: before the season. I'll give it a couple of parlays.
38:43
Speaker 3: I'll probably throw the Bucks into one. But as we're
38:48
Speaker 3: saying right now, I don't have a single dollar invest
38:49
Speaker 3: in that Bucks team and they win total Super Bowl
38:52
Speaker 3: odds any of it. I'm just I don't know. I
38:55
Speaker 3: hate that I'm so skeptical of this team, but I
38:57
Speaker 3: just can't help it. There's just so many questions right
38:59
Speaker 3: now what they're going to be like with all the
39:01
Speaker 3: turnover at the offensive coordinator position.
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Speaker 1: I had Saints under five and a half, Panthers over
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Speaker 1: six and a half, uh, and then I had Falcons
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Speaker 1: plus two thirty. I just couldn't get there on the
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Speaker 1: Panthers to win the division.
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Speaker 2: I know it's the better value.
39:18
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like the Titans play right, Like
39:20
Speaker 1: why invested short numbers when.
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Speaker 3: Even after my old Bucks playing the Bucks twice in
39:26
Speaker 3: the last three weeks.
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Speaker 2: You know, and now I think I'm rethinking it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so fuck it.
39:31
Speaker 2: I'm with you, my man. Give me the panthers on it.
39:36
Speaker 3: They're a little little guy on it, a little shekels.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little couple of win forty. Let's go party,
39:41
Speaker 5: Let's go all right.
39:42
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