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The Insiders Podcast: Tee Higgins Signs Franchise Tag and Saints RB Jamaal Williams joins the show · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a new week of The Insiders. Here's your
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  Speaker 1: Monday edition. Judy Batista and Ian Rapaport joining me. Mike Garofalo,
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Williams Saints running back. You're always going to want
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  Speaker 1: to see him when he's on camera, and he will
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  Speaker 1: be coming up shortly. And Brown's general manager Andrew Berry
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  Speaker 1: will join us. Or is it his twin brother Adam Berry.
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  Speaker 1: We'll explain that one later in the show, but let's
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  Speaker 1: get right to the news. Bengals wide receiver t Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: he had a franchise tag placed on him back in March.
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  Speaker 1: He has now officially signed that tender. It is a
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  Speaker 1: one year contract worth twenty one point eight million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It is fully guaranteed.
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  Speaker 1: It is not a long term deal that is what
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  Speaker 1: Higgins was looking for. Does not seem like that is
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  Speaker 1: in the offing in the near future, But at the
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  Speaker 1: very least the Bengals know, Judy they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: their wide receiver for the start of training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed inevitable really, from the minute that the
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  Speaker 3: franchise tag window opened. They put the tag on him
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  Speaker 3: about as quickly as a team could do it. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't appear that a long term contract is in the
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  Speaker 3: off thing right now, because it certainly appears they want
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  Speaker 3: to work on Jamar Chase first. They want to keep
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  Speaker 3: the band together though for another season never seemed like
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  Speaker 3: they were going to trade him. They want to make
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  Speaker 3: another run for it, and then we will see what
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  Speaker 3: happens next offseason. But in the meantime t Higgins back
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  Speaker 3: with the Bengals, they will have Burrow and Jamar Chase.
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  Speaker 3: This is what happens when teams have young players and
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  Speaker 3: they play really well. Everybody wants to get paid and
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  Speaker 3: everybody cannot get paid at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 5: This is why it's really hard to keep really good
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  Speaker 5: championship teams together because the great players want a lot
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  Speaker 5: of money. And this feels significant for t Higgins obviously,
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  Speaker 5: as Mike mentioned, wanted that long term deal. The fact
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  Speaker 5: that he signed his franchise Tag Laxman one year fully
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  Speaker 5: guaranteed means he's going to show up to training camp.
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  Speaker 5: Had he not, he could have stayed away, arrived whenever
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  Speaker 5: he wanted, just would have got paid essentially for the
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  Speaker 5: games that he played. Now he is under contract like
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  Speaker 5: every other player, and my understanding guys. The situation here
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  Speaker 5: is it is considered unlikely that T. Higgins will end
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  Speaker 5: up getting the long term extension that he wants, and
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  Speaker 5: he saw all of the receivers, all his brethren, get
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  Speaker 5: paid right before him. All this does is just raise
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  Speaker 5: the bar and raise the bar for when Higgins eventually
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  Speaker 5: gets paid, perhaps in free agency next year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: T Higgins agent David Mullageta had Jesse Bates a franchise
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  Speaker 1: tag safety for the Bengals, so he's been through this
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  Speaker 1: dance with Cincinnati before wound up getting Baits paid in
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  Speaker 1: free agency.
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  Speaker 2: To head to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: This could happen with Higgins as well elsewhere on the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. I don't want to call out the market
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  Speaker 1: because he's not on the market. Brandon Ayuk is under contract.
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  Speaker 1: Will he get a contract extension? He's been looking for
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  Speaker 1: one from the forty nine ers, we've been trying to
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  Speaker 1: get one done. Here's Ayuk though, talking to his longtime
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  Speaker 1: friend and former ASU teammate Jade and Daniels, quarterback of
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  Speaker 1: the Commanders.
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  Speaker 6: Camp bro.
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  Speaker 7: Cam.
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  Speaker 4: He got me vlogging me.
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  Speaker 8: What they said.
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  Speaker 7: They said they don't want me bad the Sun.
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  Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels very excited because he's saying, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Go now and trade for Brandon. I give him the
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  Speaker 1: long term deal he's looking for.
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  Speaker 2: I would put a little asterisk on the end of that.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to be uh the spoiler here, Ian as I
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  Speaker 1: throw it to you.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The Uniteds do want him back, they just don't want
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  Speaker 1: him back at the number that he wants.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, they are still apart.
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  Speaker 5: My first reaction to this, seeing it was on TikTok,
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  Speaker 5: was like, wow, who filmed this and posted it? But
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  Speaker 5: it was literally Brandon Ayuk who filmed it himself. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if he was actually doing the filming, but
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  Speaker 5: he certainly did the posting, clearly sending a message to
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  Speaker 5: his former team and maybe everyone that in his mind,
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  Speaker 5: the forty nine ers don't want it, but they do
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  Speaker 5: want him.
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  Speaker 4: They just want him at their price.
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  Speaker 5: It is not a negotiation to my knowledge, that has
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  Speaker 5: been completely dead. They just have not done a deal yet.
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  Speaker 5: And it's pretty clear that Brendan nu Yuk wants the
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  Speaker 5: kind of money that aman Ra Saint Brown ended up
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  Speaker 5: making about twenty eight million dollars average over the first
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  Speaker 5: three years of his deal. The forty nine Ers are
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  Speaker 5: not there yet. They like him, they really like him.
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  Speaker 5: They just have not been able to come together on
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  Speaker 5: a deal. So maybe that's kind of the feeling that
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  Speaker 5: Brendan nu Yuk was trying to give out.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He also when he posted this, he said, I'm laughing,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm really crying or crying really laughing something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Negotiations can include sharp elbows, right like feelings get hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Things are said in negotiations. Teams want players at the
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  Speaker 3: price they want them at. It doesn't, as you said,
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  Speaker 3: they want him. They just want him at a price
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  Speaker 3: that it does not meet the price that he wants
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  Speaker 3: to get. As we had said before, the market for
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  Speaker 3: wide receivers has exploded. He obviously has a number in mind.
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  Speaker 3: The Niners have a different number in mind. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean a deal cannot get done. We had set it
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  Speaker 3: over and over again. The Niners have been comfortable in
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  Speaker 3: the past letting their superstar negotiations go all the way
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  Speaker 3: through the summer.
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  Speaker 6: So stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: I should add also another connection in Washington. Adam Peters
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  Speaker 1: with with San Francisco now the general manager in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: So you start to put the pieces together and say
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  Speaker 1: that could be a destination for.
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  Speaker 2: Him, but it could have been a destination a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: The Niners have never had any fruitful trade talks with
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  Speaker 1: any other teams. Again, like you said, I and these negotiations,
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  Speaker 1: they are not dead, but at some point we got
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  Speaker 1: to figure out are these sides going to move together
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  Speaker 1: moving forward or do they have to go.
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  Speaker 2: Their separate way? Ian beat it a second.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in Jane Slater here to join
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  Speaker 1: me and Judy because we want to talk another wide receive.
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  Speaker 1: We got a wide receiver thing happening here. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't figured out the theme, So Jane get in here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Cedee Lamb, who is not at present
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  Speaker 1: for mandatory minichamp and obviously wants his own lucrative contract extension.
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  Speaker 2: Where do we stand on that one?
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  Speaker 10: I feel like it can almost just roll the tape
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  Speaker 10: back from your segment on Brandon A Yok and say
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  Speaker 10: all of those points also apply here to Ceedee Lamb.
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  Speaker 10: Like Judy said, they want him here, but maybe not
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  Speaker 10: necessarily at the number that Ceede Lamb and his agent
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  Speaker 10: are looking for. We'll see how this thing shakes out
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  Speaker 10: throughout the summer. You know, as you said, he wasn't here.
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  Speaker 10: They were able to get the two Jalens involved, the
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  Speaker 10: Jalen Tolbert and the Jalen Brooks. Well, I'm old enough
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  Speaker 10: to remember when they didn't think that Ceedee Lamb.
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  Speaker 4: Was the guy.
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  Speaker 10: Remember, guys, we were talking about OBJ and the sweepstakes
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  Speaker 10: to bring him to Dallas. After that discussion, I remember
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  Speaker 10: it very vividly. It was right around when they were
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  Speaker 10: getting ready to play Green Bay. Remember that was Mike
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  Speaker 10: McCarthy's first game back. All of a sudden, CD stepped
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  Speaker 10: out as a bona fide one, and I think a
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  Speaker 10: lot of people could argue that he is in line
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  Speaker 10: with some of these receivers that are getting paid this summer.
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  Speaker 10: A lot of agents I've talked to have said he's
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  Speaker 10: going to be a little bit below just and Jefferson,
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  Speaker 10: and things have gotten contentious as it relates to, you know, Judy,
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  Speaker 10: bring us up.
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  Speaker 4: It is a business.
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  Speaker 10: There hasn't been a lot of tough talking on either
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  Speaker 10: side though. I thought that's everyone's been kind of respectable
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  Speaker 10: on this one.
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  Speaker 4: But we'll see if this gets done.
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  Speaker 10: Closer to camp, typically they do.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: This is a little bit more complicated because the Cowboys
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  Speaker 3: have a whole lot of contract issues to deal with.
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott also, and of course the quarterback market has
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  Speaker 3: also exploded, so they're going to have to prioritize what
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  Speaker 3: comes first, Dak, CD Michael Parsons, which way do you go?
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  Speaker 3: And in the meantime, CD Lamb is sitting there and
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  Speaker 3: again watching each wide receiver contract go up, up, up,
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  Speaker 3: makes it harder and harder to get these guys under contract.
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  Speaker 2: Davie running running back.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, the vision in the wide receiver room, the running
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  Speaker 1: back room, Gead take it?
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  Speaker 2: You got?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, the running backs thing. I wanted to jump in here. Guys,
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  Speaker 10: as we're talking about sort of the uncertainty of CD Lamb,
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  Speaker 10: how about the uncertainty of the starter at running back.
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  Speaker 10: They keep talking this to be a running back by committee. Well,
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  Speaker 10: the last time in Dallas we saw the true running
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  Speaker 10: backs by committee was the year I was born. No,
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  Speaker 10: let's go back to nineteen eighty when they had you know,
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  Speaker 10: guys like Tony Dorset, New House, Ron Springs. Any of
• 8:12
  Speaker 10: those names sound familiar to our younger audience, Probably only
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  Speaker 10: Tony Dorset. The point I'm trying to make here is
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  Speaker 10: they sorted did this running backs by committee thing last
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  Speaker 10: year didn't work. Now Ezekiel Elliott went to New England.
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  Speaker 10: He was splitting the roll up there, took over the
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  Speaker 10: starting position at the end of the summer. I still
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  Speaker 10: think he's going to be your lead back.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think they're.
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  Speaker 10: Going to be asking him to do as much as
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  Speaker 10: they did.
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  Speaker 4: In the past.
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  Speaker 10: But they've got a number of guys on the roster
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  Speaker 10: right now, Royce Freeman, I got to use my notes
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  Speaker 10: ric O'donald Doucevawan Hunter, Lepkey, Malink Davis Snoop Connor, and
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  Speaker 10: then they added Nathaniel Peene. So as many as seven
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  Speaker 10: here they're going to be battling out at camp. Certainly,
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  Speaker 10: what we're going to be talking about a lot as
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  Speaker 10: we have itc.
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  Speaker 11: Come to you.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out class. In nineteen eighty it was a great
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  Speaker 1: year to be born, Ain't that right? Ian Rappaport, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, that's when I was born.
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: Did you know that anyway?
• 9:03
  Speaker 5: I think Tua Tamo was born maybe a little bit
• 9:06
  Speaker 5: later as a young man, unlike my old self.
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  Speaker 4: Let's turn our attention go from.
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  Speaker 5: Dallas all the way to Miami and welcome in a
• 9:14
  Speaker 5: couple of my buddies. Cameron Wolfu is of course based
• 9:17
  Speaker 5: in Miami and very very in tune with everything that's
• 9:19
  Speaker 5: going on with the Dolphins. And then Mark Ross joining
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  Speaker 5: us from parts unknown with that very very colorful shirt.
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  Speaker 4: He is our front office expert.
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  Speaker 5: I want to go from the big contract that Ceedee
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  Speaker 5: Lamb has wanted and has not yet gotten to Tua,
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: talk about Lola Cammon and obviously this has been a
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  Speaker 5: storyline we've been discussing the last several months. We saw
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  Speaker 5: last week Trevor Lawrence got paid fifty five million.
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: Dollars per year, So then we got to ask about Tua.
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  Speaker 4: What is the latest on his situation.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, and the Dolphins in Tuatungue of Bilo's agent Ryan Williams,
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  Speaker 12: continue to discuss a long term deal. Nothing done yet,
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  Speaker 12: but I'm told it's the dolphins number one PROBA and
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  Speaker 12: there's still a hope from both sides to get a
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  Speaker 12: deal before the start of the regular season. But seeing
• 10:05
  Speaker 12: quarterbacks like Jared Golf and Trevor Lawrence get those huge
• 10:08
  Speaker 12: fifty three to fifty five million dollars a year and
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  Speaker 12: new money deals only adds to the urgency. The last
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  Speaker 12: time we spoke to to a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 12: at Dolphins Mini camp, he struggled to find a word
• 10:18
  Speaker 12: to describe his emotions before settling on antsy, and he
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  Speaker 12: also said the market is the market in regards to
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  Speaker 12: golf's extension, well to us, probably the most polarizing quarterback
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  Speaker 12: I've ever covered in terms of public opinion, but his
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  Speaker 12: numbers tell the story.
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  Speaker 6: He played all.
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  Speaker 12: Eighteen games last year, staying healthy, let the NFL in passing,
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  Speaker 12: led Miami to a number one passing offense. Really, he's
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  Speaker 12: in the market as far as stats of the golf
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  Speaker 12: and the lawrences. The next mark is training camp six
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  Speaker 12: weeks away. It was notable that he did practice during
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  Speaker 12: the spring, but didn't do eleven on eleven drills. If
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  Speaker 12: it's not done by then does that continue into training camp.
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  Speaker 12: All of Miami's star players have been vocal to it
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  Speaker 12: needs to be claid, including Tyreek Hill, and so I
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  Speaker 12: don't think there's any concerned from what I hear, But
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  Speaker 12: ultimately they have to get this deal done, and I
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  Speaker 12: think they will before they start of seeing.
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  Speaker 11: One hundred percent agree with you that they have to
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  Speaker 11: get done, and they will get it done.
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  Speaker 13: And despite all the consternation and polarizing opinions about Tua.
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  Speaker 13: Whoever the next quarterback up is, they get paid and
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  Speaker 13: it doesn't matter if you're better than this guy or
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  Speaker 13: that guy. Unlike we were, what we're seeing in the
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  Speaker 13: wide receiver market where there still is a little bit
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  Speaker 13: of that, well, what is the true value with the quarterback?
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  Speaker 11: It's just the next guy up. It's just like going
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  Speaker 11: to pay gas for your car.
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  Speaker 13: Whatever the price is, you're going to pay it. You
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  Speaker 13: may complain, but you're going to put gas in your car.
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  Speaker 13: And I was a part of in twenty fifteen talking
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  Speaker 13: about a polarizing quarterback with Eli Manning. We gave him
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  Speaker 13: that four year, eighty four billion dollar extension at the
• 11:49
  Speaker 13: time that twenty one million dollars a year hide Aaron
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  Speaker 13: Rodgers for an NFL record, And of course people were saying, well,
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  Speaker 13: Eli's not as good as Aaron Rodgers, why are you
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  Speaker 13: paying him?
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  Speaker 11: But on front edge of what.
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  Speaker 13: The trend is now e and of if you got
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  Speaker 13: a guy, you gotta pay the guide because if you
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  Speaker 13: don't pay him, then where do you go.
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  Speaker 11: So that's where it is right now with the quarterback market.
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  Speaker 13: And I'm in Dunnet North Carolina at my niece's house,
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  Speaker 13: an old Confederate soldier's house.
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  Speaker 11: This was on the wall when she bought the house.
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  Speaker 11: Is i'tle two three hundred years?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I don't know how old this house is, but
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  Speaker 13: it's old, it's beautiful, and it's historic, and it's my
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  Speaker 13: niece Jerry and done, North Carolina.
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  Speaker 11: Anyone wanted to visit.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that was very heartwarming.
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  Speaker 5: The shirt much more cold for than that painting behind you,
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  Speaker 5: but still very lovely. Uh Mark caam, thank you very much.
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: We learned today that Hard Knocks the inn season version
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  Speaker 5: going to feature the AFC North. We will tell you
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  Speaker 5: what the most intriguing storyline in that division is coming
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  Speaker 5: the next.
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  Speaker 2: And now's on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that makes it newday the Hard Knocks in season now.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL had said it's going to be a division
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to follow for the in season Hard Knocks,
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  Speaker 1: and they announced today it will be the AFC North. Ravens, Bengals, Browns, Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: some legendary franchises and some good storylines to follow in there.
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  Speaker 2: Get your Hard Knocks straight.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: You got the Giants offseason, you got the Bears training camp,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: you got the AFC North in season, it's like CSI
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: New York, that was Gary Sinie, CSI Miami that was
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: David Caruso. Vegas was Ted Danson at some point. Anyway, Judy,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about the AFC North and what storyline you're
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: looking forward to here with hard knocks in season.
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  Speaker 3: Well, every one of these teams has a star quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: But I am going to be watching, especially the Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 3: Steelers who have two star quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: And how that plays out.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously Russell Wilson and justin Fields. What will this look
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  Speaker 3: like in season? What's it going to look like at
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  Speaker 3: the start of the sea Might they make a change?
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  Speaker 3: There's going to be so much interest in that quarterback
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  Speaker 3: situation in that room, whether there is a change at
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  Speaker 3: quarterback at any point in the season, whether Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 3: resurrects his career in Pittsburgh, There's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: lot of intrigue with that one.
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  Speaker 14: When we think about these guys in the Pittsburgh steel
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  Speaker 14: Is in the quarterback situation that they have.
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  Speaker 6: I want to stay in the AFC North and talk.
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  Speaker 14: About in Cleveland, Deshaun Wasson, Deshaun Watson signs that blockbuster deal,
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  Speaker 14: a mega deal to come over to really end the
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  Speaker 14: quarterback roles in Cleveland. And look, he hasn't been available
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  Speaker 14: twelve games eighty for a record, which is great, but
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  Speaker 14: a sub sixty percent passer, fourteen touchdowns, nine interceptions. You
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  Speaker 14: just don't know what you're going to get from a
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  Speaker 14: player that played at a pro Bowl level in Houston,
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  Speaker 14: was celebrated as a top five pick. At some point,
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  Speaker 14: the Cleveland Browns need to know which Deshaun Wasson is
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  Speaker 14: going to show up, the one they used to put
• 14:51
  Speaker 14: it down in agehown, the one that got him excited,
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  Speaker 14: the one that could get this team to a super Bowl,
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  Speaker 14: or whether they get the middling mint Deshaun Watson. It
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  Speaker 14: hasn't been available and hasn't played at a high level.
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  Speaker 14: Keva Savanski has to know because all oz on Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 14: because as he.
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  Speaker 6: Goes, so goes to Brown super Bowl hopes.
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  Speaker 1: I just think there's great personalities in this one. The
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  Speaker 1: Browns will start there, Bucky David and Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Ku, Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: You go to Pittsburgh Russell Wilson, even if it's not
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  Speaker 1: your cup of tea, you want to watch him and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: see if there's anything that you could potentially make fun
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: of there Cincinnati, He's got some personalities in the receiver
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: room in Baltimore. Lamar Jackson at Derek Henry to the mix.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Great cast of characters for Hard Knocks in season AFC North.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Speaking of characters, we've got.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Jamal Williams Saints running back coming up. You are not
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: going to want to miss this interview. We start talking legos, Yeah,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: we start talking legos.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Then we take it elsewhere.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Here you go, got Jamal Williams Saints running back with
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the pink cleats. He's rocking there and the promotional shot
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: on these safe X account right there. My man looks
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: season ready except for the you know, lack of a helmet.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: We'll get him a helmet before the season. Got a
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: sweet lid right now, you got a little Pokemon action.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: He's a big Pokemon guy.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: He's got some.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Legos going on right now. While he was waiting to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: be brought out this interview, what happened with the legos.
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: I'm still working on my boys head right now. But
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: his group slash venom, so I'm working on it right now.
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: But the head, Yeah, I'm still.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm working.
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: You know who Brute is, right, I am Group Guardian
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: of the Galaxy.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Oh I do know Brute.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, well I went on.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I went on the Guardians and the Galaxy ride with
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: my daughter, showing my age.
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: He was there.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: It's a great ride. If you ever get down to Epcot,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: go check that out.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: You know what.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: That leads me to my first.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Question, because Jamal Williams, you are an entertaining guy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I know that brain is always going.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: How do you spend this downtime now before training camp because.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, training gam is gonna be great, man, I
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: literally would be. I'll be thinking about it now like
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: year eight, and I'm just like so grateful and humbled
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: to be where I'm at right now. So it's just
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: like I just take this opportunity and break to breathe
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: and though that like it's gonna be great.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: I love what I'm doing.
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: I'm humble to do what I'm grateful, grateful.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: To be doing.
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: I got my daughter with me, so we really just
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: been chilling, enjoying the time. Before you know, things get
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: hected and I gotta lock in, you know, what.
• 17:27
  Speaker 12: I mean.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Tomorrow.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: You're also doing a little work for us the player's choice.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: You've taken over NFL Network today with your programs, your
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: games of choice. I'm perusing the less There's some fun
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: ones on there, a couple of big time performances from
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: you taking down Arrival on another one. Here's the question
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: I had you had the football life Aaron Jones on
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: there now when you guys were teammates. I kind of thought,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: maybe naively, that you guys would be sort of like
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: competitive or maybe like frontemies, but you're actually really friends
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and you really did.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: When you were teammates support each other. Was that something
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: that came natural?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Do you have to work at that because you're in
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: sort of a running back by committee deal in New
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Orleans too, Like, how do you handle those types of situations?
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: Well, I've always been just a team first type of
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: person in my positivity, and I just try to bring
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: great energy inside of the team, and especially in a
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: running back position where we always know it's always literally
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: most of the time, there's just one running back in there,
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: so we take it as we get it. But you
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: take your opportunities as they come. But with Aaron and
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: when we came in together, we both got drafted together,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: we had both had the same agent at the same time,
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: and we still do now. But it's just like we
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: grow up together, and the positivity and the competitive enough
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: that we both had for each other.
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: It was just on the field, like we're rooting for
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: each other.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: We learned from each other's mistakes and experiences on the field,
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: and we're helping each other, and it's just it was
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: just a great.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Time being out.
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: He's just a great dude.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: His manners is wonderful, Like the first time I meeting him,
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: you know, just being around him, how he talks to people. Yes, sir, No, sir,
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. He just he was raised right,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: He had two parent household, like they raised it. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: I'm just proud of that his parents for just how
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: they raised him.
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: So it's just I'm just.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: Grateful of having him as a teammate for so long
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: and then for our relationships will still be going now.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: I'm grateful for him, Like his family is my family.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: We stay together, we do as much as we can,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: but it's just we just have love for each other,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: and it's just grateful that, Like it's not that type
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: of situation that you come into into the league you
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: think you'll have with somebody who you're competing for a spot.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean, especially as rookies. You know
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: your mind is a rookie like, I gotta make it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking of just me. I gotta make you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: I gotta do everything I do.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: I gotta beat that dude, you know.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: But for us, it was more of just we can
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: help each other and still be out here and be
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: successful for each other. And know that like all the energy,
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: all the successfulness, all the blessings can happened to everybody
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: if you give it out there, you could You could
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: still be successful and help others while doing it, you
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: know what I mean. So just keep just keep being positive,
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: is what I learned from him.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Did you help him this offseason because you've been to
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: two other teams since you played for the Packers. He's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: now in Minnesota. It's a new place for him. Did
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: he lean on you at all about playing for a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: different team? And how fired up is he?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: He's still in the division? Double revenge?
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I know, Look, he get that, he get that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: That was motivation thing that chimp on the soda boy,
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: it's a good one.
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: Too.
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: It's a good one to have because like it gives
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: you that accent and.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: You do it for me.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: I don't even I wasn't even thinking about it yet
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: until I actually hit the field, and I was like,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: especially that once I was in like the last game
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: of Lambo, just running again into the film, like I'm back,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: I'm back where I started again. It's time to get
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: loose again, Like it'll it'll hit me to I'm on
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: the field and like I'm really self motivated. I can
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: find I'm like Bobby Bouchet. I'll be just making imagery
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: of just anybody on the field.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: So this is a great day.
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: But Aaron he got it, man, He just he's just
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: a great vet. He learns.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: He's not too He's not. He'll always learn from somebody.
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: He's not.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: He's not errant enough to think he knows everything.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: And at the same time, Aaron knows so much right
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: now and what got him to where he's at now,
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: and being a professional is what he's going to keep doing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: So wherever you go.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: And I'm mad too, because literally, like every time I
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: every time I left, the team had the new jersey
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: or they just showing a new jersey.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: I was never there for it, I tell you. But
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: he gets to the Minnesota, they got the all whites.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: I'm like, you get the new Jersey. Oh my god,
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: I'm jealous. But he looked good at that all white though.
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: I just I can't wait to see how you do.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: I'm wishing nothing but blessings for him too. He know
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: he will always be my boy, and I'm just always
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: wishing for him to do great things.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Jamal, by the way, I said today you're taking over
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: to actually tomorrow, So five yard penalty on me, my bad.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Another day to think about it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I did think about they even though you're Aready said,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: all right, I want to ask you about another running
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: back in New Orleans for Saints Mini camp.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara had.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I guess a walk out sort of a holdout, sort
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: of a walkout the last day of mini camp, a
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: show of him taking a business side and saying, you
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: know what, I wanted a new contract. I want to
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: adjust the deal. You have been through all sorts of
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: situations in the NFL. First of all, what do you
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: think of this situation? And then how how do the
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: rest of the guys see when someone like Alvin does
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Me personally, just as me as a man.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: I respect everybody as the man they are and decisions
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: they make as a man. So whatever they do is
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: up to them and me at all times I support
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: them and whatever they do because I just love them
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: for them and who they are.
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: As a person.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: And Alvin is the tremendous, great teammate, awesome person, one
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: hundred percent. He stayed ten toes down on his business
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: and what he believes in and that's just him. So
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: it's just I'm behind him on under saying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: What he does.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: And that's just because he's looking for his well being
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: and that's what all we want for each other and
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: so for but for our teammates and all we we
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: know what it is.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: We know that it's just business.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: And at the same time, we still got to keep
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: pushing and doing what we need to do for ourselves
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: to make sure that the team is good.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: So the best thing that we can do for the.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: Team is just keep pushing and doing the best thing
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: we can do is just keep making ourselves better for
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: the team. And then you know, praying for our brother,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: make sure he's great. Nothing but blessings, Like it's just
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: it's no hard feelings like it's just we're.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: Playing a game that we love.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: It's just part of the game that we do.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: And these are the type of things once you believe
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: in something you believe in, and I'm with you one
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: hundred percent, that's that's your decision.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So clink Kubiak in the house.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Your new offensive coordinator comes over from the San Francisco
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers.
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: Tell me what.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Tell me what this I can hear the excitement. Tell
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: me what this offense is going to look like in
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: twenty four.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: Let me tell you something.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: I've been watching it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: When I was watching it, freaking feel or oh my gosh,
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: what I want to feel because I.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: Was like, I'm like, why have I seen this before?
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: Because I because I'm on the other side on the
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: sideline watching it, right.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: He go crazy and I'm like, why is he running
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: like this? Why is he going crazy?
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: At the time like this is this type of game?
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Why? I was like, Oh, but then but now that
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: I know that our boys here, now, oh, I got
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: me so excited. It just gives me because I already
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: know what type of mentality it is because I've seen
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: it from the other.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Side of just be like, what is happening right now.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: And that's all like I've seen it before and in person,
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: so I'm ready to just be on the other side
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: of that and get the calls on this side.
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: Man, it's gonna be great.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Do you wake up like this?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I mean like I need five minutes in the morning, Like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: give me five minutes. There are you shot out of
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: account just like this? This came on.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Nah, in the mornings, I'm worse in the mornings. In
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: the mornings, I got real rbl face. You gotta give
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: me a minute, Like I say, good morning, I'll literally
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: be like, dude, good morning.
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: How you doing.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Hope you're having a great day, all right, Like I
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: literally say all of that while I'm walking because I
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: got it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: I got stuff to do.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: You know, you know you'll be able to time schedule,
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: so you just be like, I got to hurry up,
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: make sure I go, yeah, get in this oct to
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: make sure i'm warm.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Practice.
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's just they give me me. But once
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: I get the practice, oh I'm.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Locked in and you hit the ground.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Let's get to it. Yeah, yeah, we do. I know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Even today, you've got stuff to do, like change that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: smoke alarm battery Uh. We did an interview with a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Rachelle McCoy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Had it going on. It must be a running back thing. Anyway,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Speaking of running.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Back, I think it's an environment thing.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: Is I'm just I'm just a I'm just a what's
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: it called a sample of my environment from growing up?
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I think
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is what you were going for there. But you're the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: running back tree. I'm trying to make this transition here
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it is Jamal Willis playing.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Now this is tomorrow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Ian.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: You got to reset your DV instead it for today.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It's tomorrow. Tell us about the selections of these programs
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that you chose.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: All right, man, got b Sanders, Man, I just had
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: to give respect to I really try to give respect
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: to the places that I've been to and from the
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: people that I've held daily to my heart.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: So just as me being a running back, so B
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: Sanders for you know, Detroit got to let him in there.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: Walter Payton was always one of my favorites.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: I just love his work, ethic in the off season,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: and just how he handles business and everything. Eric Dickerson
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: of course, just because you know rams baby.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: But the Zail.
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: I just loved the way he was running at day.
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: He was just a strider.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: And then you know, I had to put Jerome Benness
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: on there just because big bus man man. I like
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: big backs, and I just like big backs with sweet feet,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: and he was definitely going out there and giving the pain,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: letting them know every time you tackle me, you're gonna
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: feel it. And so and then you know, I always
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: got I gotta put the you know, I got to
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: put the one on there and me crying, I guess
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: I just like that game. It was just a good
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: just a good way for me to just finish my
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: season off, especially for my great grandparents and really just
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: feel like I solidified for them.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: Just a good season on how to be a man, how.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: I handle my adversities that year and just just keep
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: trying to just be the best me and understand, you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: things happen, but we can get through them as long
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: as we stay positive. No, we got great loved ones
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: around us, you know, and keep the positivity around you.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: So well, that is a great list. I enjoyed that.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I like big backs, and I cannot lie. I think
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: they should make it something I love.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I love fullbacks and blocking tight ends too.
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: Please let them know that too.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: I love them.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: I will spread the word. Jamal, thank you so much
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: for hanging out with us and the insiders. Looking very
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: forward to your player's choice takeover of NFL Network tomorrow
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: and have an awesome offseason.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: We will see you in.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: California actually for training camp and who knows after that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we're gonna be real breezy out there. Kelly again, Baby,
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: I'm coming home, Donald Dine and it is the same
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: way back.
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: Hey, we come it home.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: You'll be good man, that's good.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Blesses, awesome man. Thank you for joining us. I hope
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to see us soon.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: All right, Andrew Berry, you gotta follow that right there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: The Browns general manager joining us next.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's a contrasting styles, but it'll be informative and entertaining
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: as well. The Cleveland Browns wrapping up mini camp just
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a short while ago. Eleven and six, last season a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: playoff berth toughest strength to schedule right there. If you
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: look at last year's winning percent, it is for the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: teams that they are facing. But that's not going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: scare the guy that's joining us right now, because it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the NFL and the schedule is always tough.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Isn't that correct.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's general manager Andrew Berry joining us. He is
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: live from the Azzie Newsome General Manager Forum, which is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: happening in Los Angeles, representing the NFL's commitment to developing
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a diverse and inclusive workforce and providing opportunities for minority candidates. Andrew,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: we appreciate you taking your time to spend with us here.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on out there in LA with
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: this forum.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: First of all, appreciate you guys, you know, having me
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: on today with the Osse Newsom General Manager Forum. It's
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: a really a time where we're able to gather a
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: number of talented minority executives from around the league from
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: different disciplines player personnel, football operations, football administration, research and strategy,
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: and really it's about sharing collective wisdom with experienced gms
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: other people in senior roles to to share best practices
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: and also just kind of build a build a stronger
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: network across the league. So it's it's been a great,
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: you know, morning session so far. Looking forward to a
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: nice productive afternoon. But just a lot of talented people,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: you know out here on the West Coast.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Well, before we let you get back to the summit,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: we wanted to talk to you about your team. You
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: just wrapped up mini camp. Deshaun Watson was out there
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and throwing. He was on a bit of a pitch
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: count and he hasn't been fully cleared as far as
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: we know heading into training camp. Where is he in
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: his progress returning from the injury and how has he
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: looked so.
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: Far to you?
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Judy, you know, first and foremost, DeShawn has really
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: worked his tail off, you know, during the rehabilitation process
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: over the past several months. He's really actually ahead of schedule.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: He he's really chomping at the bit uh to take
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: the governor off, so to speak. But really he's had
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: a he's had a really nice spring. He's thrown the
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: ball well, did a really nice job during our seven
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: on seven and team periods during this veteran mini camp.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: So we're excited as he gets into training camp and
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: we get the pads on. But he's making excellent progress.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: And honestly, if you didn't know he got hurt last year,
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: you really wouldn't be able to tell the difference. So
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: we're very excited on once camp starts.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Andrew.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: A couple hours before you joined us, we got the
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: announcement from HBO and NFL Films, Hard Knocks is coming
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: to the not you guys only, but the AFC North,
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: So you and all your rivals in season debuts the
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: first week of December. First of all, how long have
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: you known this? And second of all, what did you
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: think the fact that it's not just you but all
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: of your rivals as well? Does that make it more
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: fun easier? Are you going to be tuning in maybe
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: more than you might have?
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: You know, So, first of all, it's very exciting. I
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: think it's a pretty unique spin on a classic you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: NFL series, and and honestly like it's it's it's an
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: honor and privilege to be among one of the four
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: teams that can be in this I guess this iteration
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: of of Hard Knocks. Even though we're rivals, I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: all four teams, all of us, hold an immense sense
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: of pride with the competitiveness in the AC North and
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: the rivalries that you you establish. I think it'll be
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: pretty cool to see what you know, we believe is
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: you know, a very unique uh you know division. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: can't say that I'll be necessarily tuned in every week
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: because usually by the time I get home, I'm I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: a little.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Bit footballed out, so to speak.
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: But but it's gonna be a really great opportunity for
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: NFL fans and fans of aart of our four teams
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: to really engage with the organizations.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Uh, you better not be footballed out because you're hanging
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in this role for quite some time. You received a
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: contract extension recently. Congratulations on that. I would ask you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: about the significance of that, but I know how humble
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you are, You're probably not gonna want to talk much
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you an out.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Why don't you talk about the other contract extension that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: was announced that day, and that is your head coach,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in the job that he's done to this point.
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: All.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: Firstly, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate that
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: line of questioning Mike as opposed to the other. So,
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: first of all, Kevin is he It starts with Kevin's
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: just an outstanding person, like you know, two time Coach
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: of the Year. Let us to the playoffs too, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: to for two seasons. You know, we hadn't been there
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: in twenty years. He's managed and navigated a lot of adversity,
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: and so it's obvious he's an outstanding football coach, but
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: he really is an even better human being. And I
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: feel very, very blessed. You know that he's my primary
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: partner in the organization. You know, there's nothing that we
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: can't navigate together. He's great with our players, he's great
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: with the staff, and he defines the essence of leadership.
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: And one of the things I love the best about
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: him is he defines the essence of leadership, but he
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: does it in his own way. He's not necessarily this loud, boisterous,
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: big personality. But what he does, he's a master connector.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: He builds authentic relationships with people in the organization from
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: top to bottom. He's smart as a whip, and he's
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: a problem for over he's a problem solver. And we're
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: in really, really great hands for the foreseeable future.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: All Right, we're going to stay on the contract theme
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: here and go with the contract. That's a little bit
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: in question. A Mari Cooper, who was not around in
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the last few weeks. Obviously, once a contract, today's his birthday.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Happy birthday, A Marii Cooper. Where do things stand on
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: maybe the birthday present? A Marii Cooper would like most.
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So you know, I'll say first and foremost, Judy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: It's the standard practice for me where I don't you know, comment,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: you know, on contract specifics or discussions that we have
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: in our players in that in this realm, just because
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: I do think it's a it's a pretty deeply personal
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: manner for really anybody when you're talking about compensation. What
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: I will say about Amar though, is since he's been
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: a member of the Cleveland Browns, he's obviously been a
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: high level Pro Bowl calimber receiver, but he's also a
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: great teammate and he's a great professional, and we're happy
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: to have him as a member of the organization. You know, sometimes,
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: you know, all teams will have periods where they go
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: through these type of situations, but it does not change
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: our affinity for Amri. You know, we'll navigate, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: call it the business considerations and the business aspects as
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: as as it goes. But you know, he's gonna he
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: is a big part of our team, and just as importantly,
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: he's a big part of our culture.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: Andrew I was reading the comments from Nick Chubb when
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: he met with the media I think about a week
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: or so ago.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: One of the things that really struck me was he said,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: you know, the.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Browns could have essentially come you loose, could have just
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: said goodbye. And he really did have an appreciation I
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: think for how you guys handled this. His contractual situation
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: sounds like he's doing well. What went into this decision
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: to redo his contract and make sure that he feels
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: like he does?
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Honestly, Yeah, I think.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: First and foremost, when we look at any member of
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: our organization, it's it's important for us not to lose
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: sight of the fact that we're dealing with people. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: what happened to Nick last year was was was very unfortunate.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: He had no desire to be anywhere besides Cleveland. We
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: had no desire for that to be you know, the
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: last snap that he would take in a Cleveland Browns jersey.
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: And just quite honestly, he's the heartbeating pulse of our
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: of our team. You know, he is a selfless individual.
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: He works hard.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: He's obviously an outstanding ball career and outstanding running back.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: And you know, I said this at the end of
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: the end of my end of season press conference. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: had a coming into the year, I had a respect
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: level for Nick Chubb it was a ten out of ten,
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: and exiting the season it was probably a twenty out
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: of ten. Because this was a person who came in
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: every day five point thirty a m doing his rehab, mortalities,
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: working as if he was preparing for Sunday. And I
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: think that says something you know about him individually and
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: as a professional. And you know, one of the moments
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: that we're all most looking forward to is the first
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: time he runs out of that home tunnel for his
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: debut in the twenty twenty four season. So we're we're
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: really excited to have him back and can't wait to
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: get going with him.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Andrew Barry, before we let you go, a couple of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: years ago, I'm in the airport after covering a Browns
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: game and here you come walking towards me in full
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Brown's gear. You walk right by me as I go
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to say hello, and I thought that was incredibly rude.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Turns out it was your twin brother, brother Adam Berry,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: at the time working for Goldman Sex now in the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: NFL on the fast track, vice President of Football Operations
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and Strategy for the Eagles.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: A recent promotion. He's coming for you. He's on the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: faster track.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: I'm very proud of at him, Mike, and I know
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: he's in great hands, you know, with with honestly one
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: of my mentors in Howie Roseman. He is, he's a sponge.
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: He's incredibly smart. You know, he took a risk really
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: kind of changing careers mid stream and he's he's transitioned
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: pretty smoothly and quite nicely. And I'm really excited for
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: the what the future holds with him. And uh, you know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: when I'm not a you know, when I'm not in
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: Brown's business, I'm I'm an Eagles fan, you know, just
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: because i want to see him do well. And I'm
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: really excited about his progress.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Apologies to the control room because I didn'tell him. I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: was going to ask about that. They like to have
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: pictures of these people. It just he looks like that
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: as I was saying, it's easy.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: In this situation.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It's easy in the situation. And Yourew Berry, thank you
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: very much.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: We appreciate everything you're doing out there at the Aussie
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: newsome GM.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: For for him and your time with us this afternoon.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Now, thank you all for having me.
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: You guys have a wonderful summer.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, And coming up next, who could break Calvin Johnson
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: single season receiving record?
• 39:02
  Speaker 11: Can anybody do it?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks joins.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Us with a list of five candidates that could potentially
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: get it done. Calvin Johnson back in twenty twelve nineteen
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: hundred sixty four receiving yards that remains the high watermark
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: for receiving yards in a single season.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill said last year he was going to break that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: He was gonna get all the way to two thousand,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: almost got there. Seventeen ninety nine, I believe was the number.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: He got injured late in the season that the around him.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: So we turned to Bucky Brooks. Mark Ross also with us,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: but Bucky Brooks nfl dot Com backslash Scouts notebook if
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you want to check out the full story. You've got
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: five receivers that could break Johnson's mark this year.
• 39:44
  Speaker 14: Yeah, five receivers, And we talked about a hall of
• 39:46
  Speaker 14: more being able to get two thousand yards of something
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: that we just can't even imagine. If you think about
• 39:50
  Speaker 14: back in the day throwing it all over the yard.
• 39:52
  Speaker 14: But in today's time, it certainly can happen. I believe
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: there are few ingredients that are necessary to be able
• 39:56
  Speaker 14: to get it done. You have to be a number
• 39:58
  Speaker 14: one receiver, but you have to be able to do
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: it in an offense that may not have another playmaker
• 40:03
  Speaker 14: so you can get all of the targets. So the
• 40:05
  Speaker 14: names that are up at the top of the board
• 40:06
  Speaker 14: are the usual suspects. You have Tyreek Hill, you have
• 40:09
  Speaker 14: Justin Jefferson, Amarra Saint Brown as a slide receiver. But
• 40:12
  Speaker 14: the one that I really got a lot of pushback
• 40:14
  Speaker 14: on is George Pickens from the Pittsburgh Still this. How
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: can George Pickens get so many targets in so many yards? Well, look,
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: this guy averaged eighteen point one yards for Cats last year.
• 40:23
  Speaker 14: Last year they didn't even really have a quarterback that
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: could really throw him the football. Now you have Arthur
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: Smith coming over taking over an offense where you're gonna
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: have Russell Wilson being able to sling it all over
• 40:32
  Speaker 14: the yard.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: I just think it's set up with the run game.
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: One on one opportunities for George Pickens could lead him
• 40:38
  Speaker 14: to be an egle to guy to push for two
• 40:41
  Speaker 14: thousand yards on the perimeter, even though they may not
• 40:43
  Speaker 14: thought it all over the yard.
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: Bucky, got tremendous respect for your work. But just like
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: when I put my list out on NFL dot Com,
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: there's always going to be complaints. So I'm gonna be
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: a fan now and complain and say, where's cd Lamb.
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: Where's cdee Lamb on the list?
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Bucky?
• 40:57
  Speaker 13: We talked about the situations that are and some of
• 41:00
  Speaker 13: those guys on your list, they've got shaky quarterback situations
• 41:04
  Speaker 13: and do have to share the rock.
• 41:06
  Speaker 11: Well.
• 41:06
  Speaker 13: Ceedee Lamb was second behind Tyreeka Hill last year. He
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: had seventeen forty nine yards and he's got Dak coming back.
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: He's got that synergy with Dak.
• 41:15
  Speaker 13: He's going to be newly paid, so he's going to
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: be extra motivated to prove that contract that he got.
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: And you talk about a situation and an offense that
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: highlights his skills. Ceedee Lamb since twoenty twenty has the
• 41:29
  Speaker 13: most yards in the slot and he led the league
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: in yards after catch last year. So when you've got
• 41:35
  Speaker 13: a guy that you know, put him in a slot
• 41:37
  Speaker 13: NonStop just getting the rock, he's gonna make yards. He's
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: going to break the record easily this year.
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: He's a guy. Bucky got anybody go on that list?
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: Wow?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Are you rapping? Did you just start it rapping?
• 41:48
  Speaker 15: There? Is that?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: What happened there?
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: That's not my real life, bik.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: If you're like Mark.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Ross and you like the poke holes and things, go
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: check out Bucky's article on nfl dot com backslash Scouts
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Notebook to see his five guys and his reasoning for
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: those five guys. Thank you very much, Bucky Brooks Mark Ross.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Be sure to check out the Insiders podcast Monday through Friday.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Scan that QR code right there on your screen. Hurry up, quick,
• 42:10
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• 42:12
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• 42:14
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• 42:18
  Speaker 1: in here, Judy Batista, Ian you can do that on television.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Go okay.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: So my son Max is turning eleven in July. Now
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: he is going to be a seven week sleep boy.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Came along with my other son Jude, so he didn't
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: get a birthday party with his friends. All he wanted
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: was to slime his friends and be slimed. So today
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: we had a massive sliming party. It was amazing, thanks
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: to Nickelodeon.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: For all the time.
• 42:44
  Speaker 15: It was so gross I can't even tell you. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 15: the kids absolutely loved it. Did you not get slimmed?
• 42:53
  Speaker 15: You did not slam yourself?
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: No?
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Well, okay, I have been signed before. I've actually been
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: signed twice, and it is excessively gross. I wanted to
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: We only have so much slime, so I don't want
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: to take it all for myself. So it was really
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: about giving it to the kids. And here's the main thing.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: All these kids had hair. If Mike Garafola was slimed,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: no hair, it would just just go right off of them.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Might be a good person to slime.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think now is the time to take
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: shots at me, knowing I've got a retort here.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I would just say, that's pretty liquidy slime there.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think you got the consistency correct. We'll try
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: again tomorrow on that and other things. The Insiders join
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: us on Tuesday here in nfwork